[01:11] <dannylo> Hi all
[01:12] <dannylo> i'm trying to get a source from another distro
[01:12] <dannylo> i added a new line to the sources.list, run an update..
[01:12] <dannylo> and then used apt-get source package -t intrepid
[01:13] <dannylo> but can't make it work,.. need to do anything more?
[01:13] <directhex> dannylo, you added a deb-src line?
[01:14] <dannylo> yep
[01:14] <dannylo> i added: deb-src http://uy.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ intrepid main
[01:14] <dannylo> i did it once, but can't make it work tonight :(
[01:16] <directhex> dannylo, try passing the -t statement first
[01:16] <directhex> i.e. apt-get -t intrepid source foo
[01:25] <dannylo> nope... :(..  should i add the 'deb' line also?
[01:36] <dannylo> yep, i added the deb line and worked.. didn't remember that
[01:39] <binarymutant_> can someone try pbuilding http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple , I was told it FTBFS but it is building fine for me  =/
[01:42] <nellery> binarymutant_: maybe that was a problem on my part
[01:43]  * maxb cowbuilds
[01:43] <directhex> dannylo, did the source package name not match the name you were apt-get sourcing?
[01:44] <nellery> perhaps my pbuilder is acting up
[01:44] <dannylo> they match
[01:44] <maxb> binarymutant_, nellery: build successful here
[01:45] <binarymutant_> maxb, thanks :)
[01:45] <nellery> hrm, what is pbuilder doing now
[01:45] <nellery> sorry binarymutant_, I'll review and advocate if it's good
[01:45] <binarymutant_> nellery, thank you :)
[03:39] <binarymutant> if anyone has the time to advocate http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)
[07:11] <dholbach> good morning
[07:11] <juanje> dholbach: grub2 morning :-P
[07:12] <dholbach> juanje: I take it you're happy with grub2? :)
[07:14] <juanje> dholbach: hehe... no really yet. I just tried in my old macbook with hardy and it was crashing. But now I got Guadalinexv6 (jaunty) and I'll give it another chance
[07:15] <dholbach> juanje: good luck with that!
[07:15] <juanje> dholbach: hehe Thanks :-)
[07:34] <rawler> quick question; is it considered a bad practice to mark your own bugs in launchpad to "In Progress" if the problem is acknowleged upstream?
[07:34] <rawler> (and fix available upstream)
[07:34] <persia> rawler, -> #ubuntu-bugs, but most people don't do that.
[07:35] <rawler> or should I wait for some dev to confirm and mark state?
[07:35] <persia> Generally, just because upstream is fixing it isn't considered sufficient that it is being fixed in Ubuntu.  That said, if you want to track it, assign it to yourself, set in-progress, and mark it complete when the fix is applied.
[07:36] <rawler> okies.. leaving it untouched, but myself on CC.. :)
[07:36] <rawler> meanwhile, if someone have a couple of free minutes, I've got a package in dire need for sponsorship.. :) http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?package=tetzle
[08:43] <dstansby> Hi guys :)
[08:44] <dstansby> Just want to ask a quick question: I'm working on a bug that requires me to look at the code from a jaunty package, however I am running karmic. Is there anyway to get the jaunty source using apt-get?
[08:45] <RAOF> Have the Jaunty deb-src lines in your sources.list (or sources.list.d), and apt-get source -t jaunty $SOURCEPACKAGE
[08:46] <RAOF> Alternatively, work out what version of the source package Jaunty has, and ask for "apt-get source $SOURCEPAKCAGE=$THEVERSION"
[08:49] <dstansby> RAOF: Thanks, I used the second method and it worked a treat
[08:49] <dstansby> :D
[09:32] <maxb> bah, he's left
[09:32]  * maxb wanted to suggest pull-lp-source
[09:53] <Hew> vorian, bug 387231, it builds for me and in my PPA, are you sure it FTBFS?
[09:57] <gaspa> Hew: how can that diff fixes a ftbfs?
[09:57] <gaspa> is that .py called by some test?
[09:58] <Hew> gaspa, a Debian patch failed to apply on the .py file because it was previously modified by Ubuntu, and I forgot to revert the change.
[09:59] <Hew> that debdiff reverts to the native version of the .py
[09:59] <gaspa> ok ,I see.
[09:59] <Hew> see the ubuntu1 revelation build log, and also the ubuntu2 that successfully builds in my PPA
[10:00] <gaspa> just seeing.
[10:01] <gaspa> Hew: anyway, attach the build log in the bug.
[10:02] <Hew> for ubuntu1? ok, thanks for the advice.
[10:02] <gaspa> no, for ubuntu2
[10:02] <Hew> oh ok
[10:05] <Hew> gaspa, once I do that, do you think I should resubscribe u-u-s?
[10:05] <gaspa> Hew: I'd wait for an answer by vorian.
[10:05] <Hew> ok I'll wait a bit more :-)
[10:13] <huayra> I need review work on this when we are done packaging: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/iFolderPackaging
[10:13] <huayra> both simias and ifolder are now running under Jaunty
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all, i have dependency problems on jaunty, is i'm at the right place to ask about it?
[10:18] <MetaMorfoziS> prob: http://pastebin.com/m32924a73  sources.list : http://pastebin.com/m6711ca15
[10:20] <Hobbsee> #
[10:20] <Hobbsee> ERROR: Module alias not properly enabled: /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/alias.load is a real file, not touching it
[10:20] <Hobbsee> have you created that file in the past?
[10:21] <Hobbsee> if not, remove it, and run sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:21] <MetaMorfoziS> yup, i have copied my old config before
[10:21] <Hobbsee> MetaMorfoziS: looks like it's supposed to be a symlink or something, not a real file
[10:22] <MetaMorfoziS> Ok, i try to mv /etc/apache2 /etc/apache_old
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> it still cries
[10:23] <MetaMorfoziS> http://pastebin.com/m66c612d0
[10:23] <Hobbsee> MetaMorfoziS: no, don't ove the entie directory.  Just move the alias.load file.
[10:24] <Hobbsee> move the directory back, ove the alias.load file, and ty again
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> but why that solves the dependency problem?
[10:24] <Hobbsee> (add m's and r's where appropriate, my keyboard is dying)
[10:24] <MetaMorfoziS> :s
[10:25] <Hobbsee> MetaMorfoziS: because it lets the package that the othe bits rely on to upgrade properly
[10:25] <Hobbsee> so then they, in turn, can upgrade
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> now i have removed apache2, moved /etc/apache, now try to install it again
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> it must work, no?
[10:25] <MetaMorfoziS> t
[10:26] <Hobbsee> should do
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> very intresting
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> thank you, it worked
[10:26] <MetaMorfoziS> :)
[10:27] <Hobbsee> you're welcome
[10:28] <Hobbsee> MetaMorfoziS: what you did was the equivalent of removing some of the stairs in a staircase, while someone was walking up them.  Then they went splat.
[10:28] <Hobbsee> put the stairs back, they can get up the stairs fine
[10:28] <MetaMorfoziS> :-)
[10:28] <Hobbsee> oh, and adding a giant box, so people couldn't get past it
[10:29] <MetaMorfoziS> yes, it asked about to overwrite the config in the modules
[10:29] <Hobbsee> sounds about right
[10:29] <MetaMorfoziS> and for first i said no then yes...
[12:31] <Riddell> ping cody-somerville, jdong_: bug 382215
[12:49] <randomaction> All recent armel builds fail (last successful build ~15 hours ago); whats
[12:49] <randomaction> the right place to report it?
[13:09] <geser> does it fail for a common reason? or are the failures different?
[13:14] <randomaction> there is a common reason, at least for packages using autotools
[13:14] <randomaction> "configure: error: C compiler cannot create executables"
[14:38] <RainCT> jpds: I've seen you've changed update-maintainer. Isn't the ML change decision for after Archive Reorganization?
[14:55] <foolano> hi guys, is there anybody working on the asterisk merge?
[14:57] <Laney> foolano: ask the last uploader
[14:57] <Laney> ...I wonder if I have any merges to do
[14:58] <Laney> yes, damn and blast
[14:59] <foolano> Laney: weren't you the last uploader?
[14:59] <foolano> i was checking https://merges.ubuntu.com/universe.html
[15:00] <Laney> foolano: That just means I sponsored it
[15:00] <Laney> I don't know what that comment means though - maybe it could be synced now?
[15:32] <AnAnt> Hello, why does mutt build-depend on elinks instead of elinks-lite ?
[15:32] <AnAnt> in ubuntu that is
[15:37] <Laney> AnAnt: I don't know why we deviate from Debian there. Perhaps you could ask the person who made the change first?
[15:42] <geser> AnAnt: I guess it's because elinks-lite was in universe till 2009-05-04
[15:42] <AnAnt> oh
[15:43] <Laney> why isn't 'links' (as Debian do) good enough?
[15:45] <geser> I don't know the differences between links, links2 or elinks
[15:45] <Laney> quite
[15:47] <Laney> but presumably Debian would choose for the same reasons we would
[15:47] <geser> and links is in universe
[15:47] <Laney> unless it's to do with the server cd or something
[15:47] <geser> so can't be used as a B-D for mutt
[15:48] <Laney> that'll be it
[15:48] <AnAnt> aha, so elinks-lite was in universe till karmic !
[15:50] <jpds> RainCT: Might as well do it now. :)
[15:51] <geser> AnAnt: any reason why you are asking?
[15:52] <AnAnt> geser: elinks has a lot of deps, and I don't think that mutt needs all the bells & whistles of elinks to make its docs
[15:53] <AnAnt> geser: probably elinks-lite is just fine for it
[15:53] <geser> AnAnt: if you prepare a merge (there is a new mutt in unstable) and plan to change this, please think also to change the recommends from exim4 to default-mta
[15:54] <AnAnt> geser: I am preparing indeed
[15:54] <AnAnt> geser: ok, done
[15:55] <Laney> does debian have default-mta?
[15:56] <geser> IIRC exim4 provides it there
[15:56] <AnAnt> no
[15:56] <geser> I remember seeing a mail about it, will try to find it
[15:56]  * Laney is all about small deltas
[15:57] <geser> * exim4-daemon-light now Provides: default-mta. See #508644.
[15:57] <Laney> excellent
[15:57] <AnAnt> that's a virtual package
[15:58] <AnAnt> can one recommand : virtual package | virtual package ?
[15:58] <geser> I guess so
[15:59] <AnAnt> I'm sure that this is not accepted neither in Depends nor Build-Deps
[15:59] <Laney> why do you need to?
[15:59] <AnAnt> Laney: why do I need to what ?
[15:59] <Laney> have the alternate dep
[16:00] <AnAnt> well, I don't think that I can Recommend a virtual package either
[16:00] <geser> so it wouldn't try to install postfix if an other MTA is already installed
[16:00] <AnAnt> I think it should be (at least that's how it is in Deps): real-package [|virtual package]
[16:00] <Laney> :q
[16:00] <Laney> oops
[16:01] <AnAnt> so I think exim4 should be left as it is (or maybe changed to postfix)
[16:02] <jpds> Laney: Usually the smiley is: :p
[16:02] <geser> the whole idea behind it was that we don't have to change exim4 to postfix in every package
[16:03] <Laney> you are supposed to recommend default-mta | mail-transport-agent
[16:03] <Laney> only one thing provides the former afaik
[16:04] <geser> AnAnt: https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2009-June/028289.html
[16:04] <mok0> Hmm, anyone else seen this compiler error:
[16:04] <mok0>   /usr/lib/gcc/powerpc-linux-gnu/4.4.0/../../../../lib/crti.o: could not read symbols: File format not recognized
[16:04] <Laney> geser: good find, that's what I thought
[16:04] <geser> AnAnt: it mentions Depends there so I assume it's also good for Recommends
[16:05] <AnAnt> ok
[16:06] <AnAnt> and how about Build-Depend on elinks-lite instead ? is that a good idea ?
[16:07] <Laney> if it works
[16:07] <Laney> you could suggest that to debian to
[16:08] <Laney> o
[16:18] <radix> is there a way to change the directory that debuild/dpkg-buildpackage puts files into? (I mean .dsc, .build, .deb etc)
[16:18] <radix> e.g. if I want it to be ../debs instead of ../
[16:33] <AnAnt> ok, who should I subscribe for mutt's merge request ?
[16:33] <AnAnt> u-u-s ?
[16:33] <Laney> it's in main isn't it
[16:33] <Laney> ?
[16:34] <AnAnt> oh, yes
[16:34] <AnAnt> so, who should I subscribe ?
[16:37] <AnAnt> ubuntu-main-sponsors
[16:38] <AnAnt> done ! LP 388515
[16:38] <AnAnt> isn't there a tool like requestsync for the merges ?
[16:40] <Laney> please forward the changes for discussion
[16:41] <AnAnt> Laney: huh ?
[16:41] <Laney> to Debian
[16:41] <AnAnt> Laney: what's the tool to forward ubuntu patch ?
[16:41] <Laney> submittodebian, but you probably want to do it by hand
[16:41] <Laney> as there are two separate changes
[16:49] <AnAnt> is default-mta instead of exim a wishlist ?
[16:49] <AnAnt> or normal ?
[16:54] <geser> I'd file it as normal and assume the DD will change it if he sees it more as a wishlist
[16:54] <AnAnt> how would i convince them to use elinks-lite instead of links ?
[16:55] <geser> that's a good question, perhaps it's one of those ubuntu-specific changes we need to carry around
[16:55] <Laney> It doesn't take them any time to say thanks but no thanks
[16:56] <Laney> just say "we've made this change because of x and y, here's why it won't make life any worse than you. How about considering it? If not, no hard feelings"
[17:01] <AnAnt> done !
[17:02] <AnAnt> Laney: you can use submittodebian twice and edit the patches accordingly
[17:02] <Laney> AnAnt: right
[17:04] <binarymutant> if anyone has the time to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)
[17:39] <mok0> geser: are you on regina-normal?
[19:06] <RainCT> fta: Hey. FYI, parallel installation of metacity and mutter should be possible soon :). Several patches related to this have been landing those days
[19:09] <yofel> hey guys, could somebody tell me who I could ask for help on the state of bug 280188 ?
[19:09] <yofel> the 'fix' makes the package unusable
[19:09] <yofel> *the libgtkada2-bin package
[19:10] <yofel> since uninstalling zenity is short to impossible
[19:58] <directhex> hm
[19:58]  * directhex finishes comparing gnote 0.5.0 to tomboy 0.14.0
[20:05] <binarymutant> if anyone has the time to revu http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/pidgin-mbpurple I would be very appreciative =)
[20:36] <fabrice_sp_> Hi. What should be the status of a SRU bug? Confirmed or New?
[20:36] <fabrice_sp_> it's for Bug #345208
[22:24] <vorian> hew, still about?
[22:32] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/audacious-plugins/+bug/383307
[22:32] <dupondje> why is it taking weeks to get accepted :(