[00:09] <fta> asac, https://edge.launchpad.net/+apidoc/  search for 'build' or 'retry'
[00:12] <asac> good
[00:33] <fta> BUGabundo, no idea what brainbird is, compared to identi.ca
[00:33] <BUGabundo> fta: it's another laconica server
[00:34] <fta> why is that needed?
[00:34] <BUGabundo> but running 0.8x trunk series
[00:34] <fta> why is that needed?
[00:34] <BUGabundo> fta: Federation
[00:34] <fta> ?
[00:34] <fta> as in star trek? ;)
[00:34] <BUGabundo> there are several other servers right now
[00:34] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[00:34] <BUGabundo> fta: like in: if one dies all others still work
[00:35] <BUGabundo> like _we_ could have our own laconica for ubuntu
[00:35] <BUGabundo> and then still talk to ppl on identica
[00:35] <BUGabundo> much like email servers began doing on pre-internet (aka darpa)
[00:36] <BUGabundo> instead of droping an email /dent on the local server, it figures out the _federated_ one on the network and delivers there
[00:36] <BUGabundo> fta: got it?
[00:36] <BUGabundo> unlike twitter, if evan closed identica right now, us using other servers could still keep it going
[00:36] <fta> yep
[00:37] <BUGabundo> its not duplication or reduncy. its plain multimple servers that act like a big network, under the same rules, aka Federation
[00:37] <BUGabundo> ohh you are right its like Star Trek
[00:37] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[00:44] <fta> but the question is, why do you need to subscribe to each server? looks like a lot of duplication to me. servers should sync their database or something
[00:44] <BUGabundo> ahh yes I'm duplicated
[00:44] <BUGabundo> YOU don't need to
[00:45] <BUGabundo> in ensence its like two users
[00:45] <BUGabundo> just in this case, same username
[00:45] <BUGabundo> could be asac in one and fta on another
[00:45] <BUGabundo> just like my mail example
[00:46] <BUGabundo> fta: I have to accounts to use them as diff profiles
[00:46] <BUGabundo> one is the spammer, the other should dent as much as you
[00:46] <BUGabundo> plus it runs on TRUNK
[00:46] <BUGabundo> so I can see what's coming to identica before it hits
[00:51] <asac> so did the gtk sink in yet?
[00:52]  * asac checks
[00:52]  * asac retries a bunch of builds
[00:53] <asac> good thing about those kill all breakages is that the builders are usually emptied ;)
[00:54] <asac> except for the zillions of langpacks using the i386 ppas ;)
[00:55] <BUGabundo> eheh
[01:01] <fta> asac, it's in now
[01:03] <asac> yeah ... my stuff is spinning
[01:04] <fta> what is that facebook thing in gwibber? looks scary
[01:05] <fta> i just want to read a facebook stream in gwibber, not post anything there
[01:05] <fta> do i need an account?
[01:05] <fta> BUGabundo, ^^
[01:05] <fta> "Request login code".. wtf is that?
[01:05] <BUGabundo> fta: don't use FB
[01:07] <fta> oh, there's a twitter feed too, which i don't use either
[01:08] <fta> 8981 followers, not bad
[01:08] <BUGabundo> uau
[01:08] <BUGabundo> you have that many?
[01:08] <BUGabundo> care to sell it ??!
[01:08] <BUGabundo> ROFL
[01:09] <BUGabundo> fta: how long haven't you open gwibber accounts tab?
[01:09] <fta> it's not me, it's the stream i want to follow
[01:09] <fta> BUGabundo, long ago
[01:10] <BUGabundo> wait I'm lost
[01:10] <BUGabundo> doesn't take much to do it, still
[01:10] <BUGabundo> where are you reading those "feeds"?
[01:10] <BUGabundo> on FB
[01:22] <BUGabundo> fta: https://code.edge.launchpad.net/~segphault/gwibber/service-split
[01:22] <BUGabundo> I think he means this
[01:22] <BUGabundo> can't wait for Ryan to push his UI changes
[02:07] <BUGabundo> $gwibber
[02:07] <BUGabundo> Traceback (most recent call last):
[02:07] <BUGabundo>   File "/usr/local/bin/gwibber", line 55, in <module>
[02:07] <BUGabundo>     from gwibber.client import GwibberClient
[02:07] <BUGabundo> ImportError: No module named gwibber.client
[02:07] <BUGabundo> fta any idea what dependecy is missing there?
[02:23] <BUGabundo> $ sudo echo snoozzz | /proc/cpuinfo
[09:55] <fta> Estimated repository size: 35.5 GiB (89.51%) of 39.6 GiB
[10:12] <fta> asac, http://code.google.com/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=13194
[10:15] <asac> fta: so did they let go withyour quota thing?
[10:21] <fta> asac, 40GB is good enough for now. 20GB was really too small.
[10:22] <fta> 1 build is ~12 GB now, so as old debs are removed after 24h, i need at least 24 GB, plus another 12 if i push a fix in between
[10:23] <asac> ok
[10:24] <asac> so how much data do we have for dailies in librarian?
[10:24] <asac> 1T?
[10:24] <fta> no idea
[10:24] <asac> ;)
[10:24] <asac> how long are thedailies operating now?
[10:25] <asac> 6 month
[10:25] <asac> or 4-5?
[10:25] <fta> 2009-02-25
[10:26] <fta> so 4 months
[10:26] <asac> fta: http://pastebin.com/fdacb463
[10:26] <asac> is that legal in make'?
[10:26] <fta> but i started the package on 07 Nov 2008
[10:26] <asac> or do i need to do some $(shell stuff)
[10:26] <asac> fta: thats chromium daily. ... didnt the moz dailies start before that?
[10:27] <fta> 2009-02-05
[10:28] <asac> fta: you think that LD_LIB path stuff is ok?
[10:28] <asac> i mean in general ;)
[10:29] <fta> why is that patch needed? LD_LIBRARY_PATH should be empty at this point
[10:29] <asac> just found out that we must add LD_LIBRARY_PATH because of fakeroot
[10:30] <fta> really?
[10:30] <asac> fta: so right syntax or rather go for echo
[10:30] <asac> fta: yes. maybe you need this for chromium and stuff as well
[10:30] <asac> ok out for 30 minutes
[10:33] <fta> yep, it will work like that
[10:42] <fta> asac, how is that new linux@distribution.bugs supposed to be used?
[10:43] <fta> mozilla 444906
[10:57] <asac> fta: you can follow users in bugzilla
[10:57] <asac> so basically, go and follow that user and you will get bugmail for linux specific things
[10:58] <asac> i will check if we are supposed to CC that user if we upstream bugs
[10:58] <asac> or rather also add ubuntu@distribution.bugs
[11:01] <asac> pushed new nss
[11:11] <asac> argh.
[11:11] <asac> gcc bustage in archive :(
[11:11]  * asac doesnt like it
[11:12] <asac> http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28019463/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-powerpc.nss_3.12.3-0ubuntu2_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[11:17] <asac> summoned doko now
[11:25] <asac> cool. so nss 3.12.3 at least built fine now
[11:25] <asac> (on the non-busted archs)
[11:44] <fta2> asac, my question was more: how do i follow a user?
[11:46] <asac> fta2: you can set that up in bugzilla options
[11:47] <asac> fta2: email preferences
[11:47] <asac> "Add users to my watch list (comma separated list):"
[12:17] <Helpless> hi all , i need some help :)
[12:18] <Helpless> Iam using the P.O.W Addon for Firefox , but somehow it wont work :S
[13:35] <asac> bug 369498
[14:34] <asac> lunch
[15:06] <fta2> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[15:06] <fta2> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgioremote-volume-monitor.so
[15:06] <fta2> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiogconf.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[15:06] <fta2> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgiogconf.so
[15:06] <fta2> /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: wrong ELF class: ELFCLASS64
[15:06] <fta2> Failed to load module: /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so
[15:07] <fta2> so apparently, GTK_PATH is not enough / not used by gio
[15:21] <asac> fta2: well. i have glib in my sandbox
[15:21] <asac> you need to ship a link too then
[15:21] <asac> i would think that /usr/lib/gio/modules/libgvfsdbus.so: is busted on multi-arch
[15:21] <asac> all dbus should be broken to be precise
[16:09] <fta2> *** NSPlugin Wrapper *** ERROR: NPP_New() wait for reply: Connection closed
[16:40] <fta2> asac, indeed, flash, or NSPlugin Wrapper, is unusable with my new ia32-libs
[16:58] <asac> yes. thats the bug
[16:58] <asac> fta2: do you have it installed right now? can you check whether firefox itself works ?
[16:58] <asac> i only tested chrome, but that wouldnt catch if our libs broke ABI because its spun against recent libs
[16:58] <asac> fta2: wget http://releases.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/firefox/releases/3.5rc1/linux-i686/en-US/firefox-3.5rc1.tar.bz2
[16:59] <fta2> firefox32?
[16:59] <asac> tar xjf fir*bz2
[16:59] <asac> cd firefox
[16:59] <asac> ./firefox ;)
[16:59] <asac> yeah. the upstream build
[17:01] <fta2> asac, on startup: http://paste.ubuntu.com/197802/
[17:01] <fta2> but it runs
[17:02] <asac> fta2: yeah so those are expected
[17:02] <asac> gio is fixed in the glib i have in sandbox
[17:02] <asac> would be worth to check if that causes regressions too
[17:03] <asac> fta2: what does strace -f -eopen spit out directly before this NSPlugin Wrapper issue pops up?
[17:03] <asac> maybe that gives us a hint what bogus libs its pulling in
[17:05] <fta2> asac, you mean with ff32 ?
[17:06] <fta2> doesn't make sense
[17:06] <asac> fta2: no with 64 bit firefox + nsp
[17:33] <fta2> nothing obvious
[18:45] <fta> asac, d'oh! http://launchpadlibrarian.net/28033671/buildlog_ubuntu-karmic-amd64.chromium-browser_3.0.190.0~svn20090617r18622-0ubuntu1~ucd1_FAILEDTOBUILD.txt.gz
[18:58] <fta> asac, wtf? http://paste.ubuntu.com/197888/  3 times the same patch in 5 days?
[19:51] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[19:56] <fta> debian 493681
[20:50] <fta> hm, can't type anything in ff3.6
[20:50] <micahg> fta: did you restart after the last update?
[20:51] <micahg> *restart ff
[20:51] <fta> yes, sure
[20:54] <BUGabundo> works for me
[20:57] <fta> better now
[20:58] <fta> hmm, broken again
[20:58] <BUGabundo> lolol
[21:36] <fta> hm, that gcc 4.4 issue /w chromium is my fault apparently, damn
[21:39] <BUGabundo> fta: you infected my FF too
[21:39] <BUGabundo> can't type on it :(
[21:39] <fta> good i'm not alone
[21:40] <BUGabundo> yeah
[21:40] <BUGabundo> restarting it now
[21:40] <BUGabundo> running on cli to see if I get anything obvious
[21:41] <BUGabundo> $ firefox-3.6 -g
[21:59] <fta> i'm sick of gwibber, too many crashes when i type
[21:59] <fta> and noone seems to care
[22:00] <BUGabundo> yeah
[22:00] <BUGabundo> most of mine (80%) happen just before I hit enter
[22:00] <BUGabundo> well they blame pango
[22:00] <BUGabundo> even opened a bug upstream
[22:01] <BUGabundo> but why not user another lib?
[22:03] <fta> the bug should go to debian
[22:04] <fta> one idea would be to make slomo and seb128 use gwibber, so they'll notice and investigate ;)
[22:05] <BUGabundo> fta: have you reported the FF3.6 bug ?
[22:05] <fta> no, feel free
[22:05] <BUGabundo> fta: why them? do they work with pango?
[22:06] <fta> slomo seems to be the debian maintainer, and seb did the last merge
[22:06] <fta> yep, pango
[22:06] <BUGabundo> ok
[22:06] <BUGabundo> can you ping them and let gwibber team know?
[22:07] <BUGabundo> 'cause the bug is already upstream
[22:07] <BUGabundo> no comment in 3weeks
[22:11] <fta> bug id?
[22:14] <BUGabundo> humm have to look for it :(
[22:14] <BUGabundo> http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=584015
[22:15] <BUGabundo> http://identi.ca/tag/pango
[22:43] <fta> hm, can't figure out how to make a $(call) function with an unknown number of arguments
[22:43] <fta> asac, ^^, any idea?
[22:47] <fta> nm, got it
[23:39] <BUGabundo> fta: (firefox-3.6:17901): Gdk-WARNING **: XID collision, trouble ahead
[23:39] <BUGabundo> could this be it ?
[23:39] <BUGabundo> just lost keyb!
[23:43] <fta> no idea
[23:59] <BUGabundo> asac mind to pass this along to mozilla: only ask to save passwords *after* login is made!
[23:59] <BUGabundo> Chromium does that very nicely