[00:03] <carolija> Witch messenger to use because amsn have no voice option ?
[00:03] <carolija> any advice ?
[00:04] <super__rad> carolija kopete would be your best bet as thats the official kde messenger app
[00:05] <carolija> hmmm Kopete
[00:05] <carolija> super__rad, ill see now
[00:05] <carolija> i thing i had some problem with it
[00:05] <carolija> so i didn not use it
[00:05] <carolija> ill try now again
[00:06] <super__rad> I can't help much with audio/video chat as I never use them
[00:07] <carolija> Yes now i remember I can connect gmail account to it, why ?
[00:07] <carolija> server : googlemail.com
[00:07] <super__rad> do you mean you can't connect to gmail?
[00:08] <carolija> To use gmail like a messenger coz there is option, just can figure out
[00:09] <carolija> Witch I have to chose from the list wan i make account to can use gmail for messenger ?
[00:09] <super__rad> to add a google talk account to kopete just go to add a new account and select "Jabber" then put your email and password in
[00:09] <burn_> how to know am i using the ati drivers?
[00:10] <carolija> super__rad,  so i dont have to register to jabber ?
[00:10] <super__rad> no just put your google email address and password in, then click next
[00:11] <carolija> ok
[00:11] <carolija> ill try
[00:15] <carolija> I need ssl or default information or something ?
[00:15] <carolija> super__rad,
[00:16] <super__rad> is it coming up with an error?
[00:16] <super__rad> because thats exactly how I've setup my google account in kopete and it works fine
[00:16] <carolija> like default ?
[00:16] <carolija> u type it in just ID and password ?
[00:17] <makuseru> Can someone help me configure my Atheros wireless card?
[00:17] <super__rad> yeah thats all I put in and it connects fine, you did put your full email add (including @googlemail.com or @gmail.com?)
[00:18] <carolija> is there is different  @googlemail.com or @gmail.com ?
[00:19] <carolija> If i got googleemail
[00:19] <carolija> i must tu put that opne ?
[00:19] <carolija> because whan i login into the webserver I put gmail and work fine
[00:19] <super__rad> if that works fine then just try @gmail.com
[00:20] <super__rad> carolija this may be some help http://wiki.kde.org/tiki-index.php?page=Google+Talk+support
[00:20] <super__rad> although it's for an older version of kopete, but it should work fine if you follow that
[00:20] <carolija> ok
[00:20] <carolija> tnx i take a look
[01:03] <solid_liq> !ping
[01:03] <Dragnslcr> Wow, who killed the channel
[01:04]  * carolija not
[01:06] <RobertLaptop> Question I just upgraded from KDE 3.5 to KDE 4.2 and was wondering how to get the trash can back.
[01:08] <ign0ramus> RobertLaptop, here is my trash.desktop: http://pastebin.com/me88dbff
[01:13] <Dragnslcr> RobertLaptop- get it back where? In the panel? On the desktop?
[01:13] <bobleny> Ok, maybe you can help me with this. I have two HDD (sda1 Kubuntu) (sdb1 vista 32, sdb2 XP, sdb3 vista 64). Is there a way to use Grub from sda1 to boot into sdb2?
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> I think you get grub to run another bootloader, but I'm not sure exactly how
[01:14] <Dragnslcr> I know that it's pretty easy to add regular entries for those Windows installs to grub
[01:15] <super__rad> bobleny yes, to chainload to vista's bootloader just add "title Vista" "root (hd1,0)" "makeactive" "chainloader +1"
[01:15] <super__rad> but each thing in qoutes needs to be on a seperate line, and you add then in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[01:16] <Dragnslcr> There ya go, someone that knows more about grub than I do
[01:16] <bobleny> Ok, I'll give it a try.
[01:18] <bobleny> Why does my menu list say this: "map (hd0) (hd2)"? What does that mean?
[01:20] <RobertLaptop> Dragnslcr In the Panel.
[01:21] <ign0ramus> RobertLaptop, just add the widget to the panel
[01:21] <Dragnslcr> RobertLaptop- it's a regular widget that you can add
[01:27] <roby> giorno a tutti
[01:27] <bobleny> I'm back! You suggestion will get me into the MBR on the second drive, but doesn't actually load a specific OS. Is there a way to do that?
[01:27] <bobleny> What is a tutti?
[01:28] <roby> italy
[01:28] <bobleny> OK.
[01:28] <roby> :)
[01:30] <bobleny> I should learn German.
[01:31] <origin> In 9.04 is there any graphical tool to configure multiple monitors? (I can get it to work by just copy+pasteing the xorg.conf from my 8.10 install, but a graphical tool would be nice.)
[01:31] <Dragnslcr> bobleny- as far as I know, your only options are to have grub load the other bootloader or to add entries for the Windows installs to grub
[01:34] <bobleny> OK.
[01:39] <alinon> anyone familiar with dosbox?  when i start it when the terminal it loads my config file fine, but seems to bypass the config file if i start dosbox from a desktop shortcut, what gives?
[01:39] <origin> Anyone?
[01:40] <DaskreeCH> origin: Not that I know of outside of the tools shipping with the Drivers from he manufacturers
[01:45] <bobleny> Hey, I'm trying to isntall grub on hd1,0. Why would I get error 17?
[01:45] <JuJuBee> I put together some old parts to make a working compute for my daughter.  However, I cannot get sound working.  I checked bios (enabled), I checked mute in kmix (Not)  I read many posts on forum still cannot get working.
[01:45] <JuJuBee> Im using via 8237
[01:46] <bobleny> Oh, I cant install grub on an ntfs disk can I....
[01:46] <halberd> is there another way to switch to an alternate tty, other than ctrl-alt-f1 (or f2,etc)?
[01:48] <bobleny> Did you play around with the sound Mixer? Every time I've ever installed ubuntu I have to turn PCM all the way up. Since I have surrond sound, I also have to turn up the front controll and also turn it on.
[01:48] <DaskreeCH> JuJuBee: Last time I used that I had sound it was just waaaay low
[01:49] <Kira_Light> Is there a way to get the ctrl+alt+d hotkey to show the desktop without using a widget?
[01:49] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, does "aplay -l" list your card?
[01:49] <JuJuBee> Yes,
[01:50] <DaskreeCH> Kira_Light: Soon I think
[01:50] <JuJuBee> 2 devices though?
[01:50] <ign0ramus> Kira_Light, last i checked (last week), no there is no user-friendly way yet
[01:50] <Kira_Light> ok. thanks
[01:50] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 0: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]
[01:51] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: as well as this...  card 0: V8237 [VIA 8237], device 1: VIA 8237 [VIA 8237]
[01:51] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, it appears to be a kernel bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux-restricted-modules/+bug/317978
[01:51] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, perhaps try 2.6.30?
[01:51] <bobleny> Kira_Light: system settings, keyboard and mouse, keyboard shortcuts, change scheme to windows with win key.
[01:52] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.30/
[01:52] <bobleny> Kira_Light: or under current scheme you can change the shortcut to ctrl+alt+del.
[01:52] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: How do I update to 2.6.30?  What is the process or how to I can read?
[01:53] <bobleny> Kira_Light: I'm used to windows shortcuts, so I just go with windows + win key.
[01:53] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, you can simply install the proper .deb packages from the url above (proper for your architecture... amd64/32bit/etc)
[01:53] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, you will still keep your current kernel, but grub will then offer the new kernel to try out.
[01:54] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: Do I grab the headers or the image?
[01:54] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, headers, image, and source
[01:55] <JuJuBee> use dpkg -i {filename} ?  Any specific order?
[01:55] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, actually, you don't need source
[01:56] <JuJuBee> OK, so still, order?
[01:56] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, i always install headers first, then image.  not sure if it makes a difference, but this method has no ill-effects
[01:56] <thumper> has anyone documented setting up quassel core as a service on kubuntu?
[01:56] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: OK, thanks.  I will have a go at it...  Let you know if it works.
[01:57] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, cool.  it's always fun to try out a new kernel.  and again, you'll still have your current one if the new one doesn't work well for your needs
[01:57] <origin> DaskreeCH: Oh well, How come it doesn't? Or is it just a case of no developer has gotten arround to it yet?
[01:57] <JuJuBee> Oh dear, errors...
[01:57] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, ruh-ro
[01:57] <JuJuBee> http://paste.ubuntu.com/198086/
[01:58] <DaskreeCH> origin: That and X is currently undergoing some serious changes so when that settles down people will have an easier target to make a GUI for
[01:58] <origin> DaskreeCH: Ohh I see.
[01:58] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, try linux headers "all" first
[01:59] <origin> Hey by default Dolphin doesn't have an option to right click a config file and "Edit As Root" does it?
[02:00] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: that seems to be working.
[02:01] <JuJuBee> will I need to compile  in the alsa drivers?  or just reboot?
[02:01] <origin> DaskreeCH: So, what's going on with X then?
[02:01] <DaskreeCH> origin: not that I know of sounds like a easy menu to patch in. In Kubuntu you should probably be doing kdesudo anyway
[02:02] <DaskreeCH> origin: I have three answers all of which are coloured by my blinding hate of X
[02:02] <BigDadyLueda> hello all
[02:02] <DaskreeCH> but in short they are trying to rewrite it to be more modular (hooray) and to have all the config for X being done inside of X itself (Seriously wth?)
[02:03] <DaskreeCH> !hi | BigDadyLueda
[02:03] <origin> DarkriftX: What's wrong with X? And yea It is easy, I just put one together that uses kdesudo kate in about 5 minutes. Just seemed strange that something so usefull and easy to do wouldn't be in by default, But I assume there's some reason why.
[02:03] <BigDadyLueda> thank you
[02:04] <DaskreeCH> origin: The person who wrote Dolphin didnt need it :)
[02:05] <origin> DaskreeCH: Lol, I guess that's the advantage of Linux in general. If you don't like how the developers made it, you can change it. =D
[02:05] <DaskreeCH> Free software in general
[02:06] <origin> DaskreeCH: That being said, adding a single text file (half of it copy and pasted) is hardly hardcore hacking. =P
[02:06] <DaskreeCH> Hallmark of a good software project is a community and a easy way to start helping
[02:07] <origin> True
[02:09] <origin> DaskreeCH: So why do you hate X so much?
[02:10] <JuJuBee> ign0ramus: well, rebooted and now when I go to kmenu-system-settings->multimedia and test the drivers, I am told they do not work.  Do I need to reinstall the alsa drivers?
[02:10] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, shouldn't have to...
[02:11] <ign0ramus> JuJuBee, hopefully you get it sorted out, but i gotta run
[02:11] <ign0ramus> cheers all.
[02:11] <JuJuBee> aplay -l aplay: device_list:217: no soundcards found...
[02:12] <bbeck> Does anyone have an idea why the fps, as displayed by kwin, would drop by about forty frames a second as long as it's open.  If I close system settings it jumps back up.  It doesn't appear to be updating the screen.
[02:14] <chalcedony> any idea what wireshark is called if you want to reinstall it?
[02:20] <DaskreeCH> chalcedony: Wireshark?
[02:20] <DaskreeCH> !info wireshark
[02:22] <tehboriz> "kde failed to start. you do not have reading permissions to /user/home/"
[02:26] <chalcedony> hmm
[02:27] <chalcedony> DaskreeCH: my wireshark is still 1.0.2 after reinstall
[02:28] <DaskreeCH> !info wireshark intrepid
[02:28] <DaskreeCH> chalcedony: Maybe you have the wrong repo?
[02:30] <chalcedony> DaskreeCH: i have hardy ubuntu ?
[02:30] <DaskreeCH> !info wireshark hardy
[02:31] <DaskreeCH> chalcedony: do you need something from the newer version?
[02:31] <chalcedony> it is what it is i guess
[02:31] <chalcedony> not till i get it to work and find out :)
[02:32] <chalcedony> ty DaskreeCH :)
[02:32] <tehboriz> guys i can't start up kde this is serious!
[02:33] <DaskreeCH> tehboriz: Why not?
[02:33] <tehboriz> DaskreeCH, scroll a bit up, if you can't find it i'll repaste
[02:36] <DaskreeCH> tehboriz: Where are you getting /user/home from ?
[02:36] <tehboriz> it says that as the error, more accurately it says "/boriz/home""
[02:37] <tehboriz> no reading permissions
[02:37] <tehboriz> which is weird...
[02:37] <DaskreeCH> tehboriz: I'm going to go out on a limb and say that directory doesn't exist
[02:37] <tehboriz> i had ext2 volume manager installed
[02:37] <tehboriz> but it's never messed anything up
[02:37] <tehboriz> nope, the dir exists...
[02:37] <tehboriz> oh wait i think i know what i did >.<
[02:38] <tehboriz> i made some files hidden cause i shared the dir with windows
[02:38] <robbins> ..
[02:39] <tehboriz> it doesn't read hidden files for some reason?
[02:56] <mib_qnpno2fg> hello?
[02:57] <mib_qnpno2fg> i'm having issues with unr
[02:57] <mib_qnpno2fg> and need some help
[03:18] <wz> hello,guys
[03:18] <DaskreeCH> hi
[03:19] <DaskreeCH> I guess the girls will get a separate greeting?
[03:21] <wz> 不是
[03:21] <vorian> hmm
[03:21] <chalcedony> DaskreeCH: how do i completely remove wireshark?
[03:21] <chalcedony> then i will get it new
[03:21] <chalcedony> without whatever mistakes i made the first time
[03:21] <DaskreeCH> chalcedony: sudo apt-get remove wireshark --purge && sudo apt-get autoremove
[03:21] <chalcedony> kewl :)
[03:22] <chalcedony> is there anything i have to know .. a file that isn't part of it that has to be updated?
[03:22] <chalcedony> libpcap ?
[03:23] <chalcedony> wz: i get emails with that kind of writing in the subject line..
[03:24] <wz> o
[03:25] <DaskreeCH> chalcedony: Fwd: them :-)
[03:26] <chalcedony> DaskreeCH: to wz ?
[03:26] <chalcedony> or you?
[03:26] <wz> opera unite!good!
[03:26] <DaskreeCH> I hear it's interesting
[03:27] <wz> yes
[03:38] <chalcedony> this thing does not work
[03:39] <chalcedony> it kills itself when i click capture > interfaces > anything, start.. freeze
[03:51] <taijirobot> wow, so many people here
[04:00] <DaskreeCH> taijirobot: :-)
[04:01] <taijirobot> I have a problem about video card driver. My card is ATI Technologies Inc Mobility Radeon X2300
[04:01] <taijirobot> I can't have the driver installed
[04:02] <taijirobot> I wonder who might have the experience about that
[04:07] <DaskreeCH> !ati
[04:11] <taijirobot> I've read it before, but the version is old
[04:11] <DaskreeCH> ok
[04:11] <mermshaus> hi! can anybody tell me the address of this "hey, let's gather everything ubuntu in a livestream" page?
[04:11] <taijirobot> are you sure it works for the new version?
[04:13] <Serpardum> Hello.  I am trying to install Kubuntu clean to a hard drive (been using it in virtualbox hosted in windows).  I'm on the livecd, but it is trying to install it to my first scsi drive.  I installed an ATA drive for the express purpose of installing kubuntu on.  How do I tell the livecd install to use my ATA driver?
[04:13] <Serpardum> *drive
[04:13] <mermshaus> I'm going to try my luck in #ubuntu too
[04:14] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: Do a manual partition ?
[04:14] <Serpardum> How do I do that?  I clicked teh "install" on the desktop folder.
[04:15] <Serpardum> do I need to use the alternative iso?
[04:15] <taijirobot> And I have another problem, it is that every time I quit from the 'Restricted Drivers' window, I get a error popup telling 'The application Jocky() crashed and caused the signal 11'
[04:15] <Serpardum> I got that from kate a lot, but I found out it was probably because I had done sudo kata instead of kbesudo kate
[04:16] <Serpardum> that was directed to taijirobot
[04:16] <Serpardum> manual partition.  I guess I"ll google for the console command for that
[04:17] <Serpardum> hmm.. specify partitions manaullY/  let em try that
[04:18] <Serpardum> okay, now I feel stupid.  didn't see that "specify partions manually" before.  doing the trick
[04:19] <Serpardum> what size swap would you suggest for 3gb  system memory?  6gb?
[04:20] <vegas513> hi, can anybody help me with sharing a folder across my network?
[04:22] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: No when you are doing the intstall there comes a point when you can parition
[04:22] <DaskreeCH> Jsut don't choose guided setup
[04:22] <DaskreeCH> ah right :)
[04:22] <DaskreeCH> vegas513: If it's with another Linux box scp works :)
[04:23] <Serpardum> yes, I am there Daskreech
[04:23] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: how much RAM do you have?
[04:23] <Serpardum> 3gb
[04:23] <Serpardum> planning on sometimes running vista through virtualbox
[04:23] <Serpardum> to play my games
[04:23] <DaskreeCH> Doing any video editing or hosting databases from cached RAM ?
[04:23] <DaskreeCH> Ah ok maybe 2-3 GB then
[04:23] <Serpardum> I'll go with 3gb then
[04:24] <Serpardum> although it may be too large
[04:24] <vegas513> DaskreeCH, i'm trying to share a folder to the other windows boxes on my network
[04:24] <halberd> what's your favorite newsreader?
[04:24] <DaskreeCH> vegas513: Ah Samba then
[04:24] <DaskreeCH> akregator \o/
[04:24] <mermshaus> is virtualbox good enough (in regards of graphics) to run newer games?
[04:24] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: Maybe but you can monitor it and dial it back down later if anything
[04:25] <vegas513> i know, i looked samba up online and it said all i'd need to do is right click the folder that i want to share and change the properties
[04:25] <Serpardum> yeah.
[04:25] <DaskreeCH> !samba
[04:35] <Drknezz> Hi, is there any *decent* package manager for kde4? kpackagekit suckz
[04:36] <Serpardum> is ex4 > ex3?  What should I make my primary partition?  I have 64 bit AMD installing 64bit kubuntu
[04:37] <Serpardum> Hmm.. I think I"ll install a partion for home too.
[04:38] <kevin_> Can I use Konversation to access a 'normal' internet chat room?
[04:38] <kevin_> Helllo all
[04:38] <mermshaus> Drknezz: Adept is imo the only package manager that gets stuff done. It even solves some dependency issues better than console line apt
[04:38] <Serpardum>  this is a "normal" internet chat room
[04:39] <Drknezz> hmmm...is it qt4 app?
[04:39] <Drknezz> mermshaus: ...
[04:39] <Serpardum> you can connect to any server.  you can even change what server it auto connects to
[04:39] <kevin_> serpardum, thanks for the info
[04:39] <Serpardum> look in your settings kevin_
[04:39] <kevin_> ok'o
[04:40] <kevin_> configure Konversation?
[04:41] <kevin_> interface, behavior or notifications?
[04:41] <Serpardum> Hmm.. I see ext4 has issues.  I"ll go with ext3 then I guess
[04:41] <mermshaus> Drknezz: sorry. :) thats just my experience ;)
[04:41] <Drknezz> Ok, lol, thanks
[04:42] <Serpardum> is 38gb /   20gb /home  good sizes you think?
[04:42] <Serpardum> thsi is a 61gb hd
[04:42] <mermshaus> Drknezz: oh, about the qt4 stuff... ehm... i dont know... i had in installed for like years
[04:43] <Drknezz> mermshaus: it is qt4'ed :D
[04:43] <mermshaus> Drknezz: good to know. :)
[04:43] <Drknezz> ;)
[04:46] <Serpardum> 38gb might be too much.  some people are saying 8.  I think I'll go with 20gb root and 38gb /home
[04:49] <taijirobot> Serpardum: I cann't see video card driver in the Restricted Drivers
[04:50] <Drknezz> Hi anyone wants support?
[04:50] <Drknezz> lol
[04:50] <Serpardum> taijirobot: where did that come from?
[04:51] <Serpardum> I mean, no one was talking about video card drivers.
[04:51] <Drknezz> All the fuss is going on #ubuntu meet me there
[04:51] <Serpardum> what fuss?
[04:51] <Drknezz> lol
[04:51] <taijirobot> Serpardum： it's my problem, I was talking about it about 20 mins ago
[04:52] <taijirobot> Serpardum: I want to get some help about that:)
[04:52] <Serpardum> hmm.. you can't see video card drivers in restricted drivers, and when you end restricted drivers it crashes
[04:53] <Serpardum> I really have no idea what a "restricted driver" is so don't think I"ll be much help
[04:53] <taijirobot> Serpardum: yes
[04:53] <taijirobot> Serpardum: ok, thank you all the same
[04:54] <taijirobot> KMenu → System Settings → Advanced → Restricted Drivers, that's what I mean
[04:55] <DaskreeCH> taijirobot: Try just install the driver directly
[04:57] <Serpardum> I"m worried about this: The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[04:57] <Serpardum> SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sdc)
[04:57] <Serpardum> I'm trying to install to an ATA drive, not my SCSI.  I set the partion info for my ATA drive, why does it call it SCSI5?
[04:59] <taijirobot> DaskreeCH: do you mean, try "Install from ati.com" in the wiki ?
[05:00] <DaskreeCH> taijirobot: no just install the driver from the repos
[05:02] <taijirobot> DaskreeCH: but the latest is for 8.04
[05:02] <DaskreeCH> The latest?
[05:02] <LaserJock> is anybody having problems with choqok from jaunty-backports regarding tweets not going away?
[05:03] <DaskreeCH> LaserJock: Will be fixed soon
[05:03] <LaserJock> DaskreeCH: what sort of ETA?
[05:04] <DaskreeCH> Don't know the 0.6.1 release just came out there is a PPA with it if you like but might be tomorrow before it hits backports
[05:04] <taijirobot> DaskreeCH: insmod: can't read '/lib/modules/2.6.28-11-generic/volatile/fglrx.ko': No such file or directory
[05:05] <Serpardum> freaking linux is calling my ATA drive SCSI5.  wtf.  oh well, at least I know it's correct (used partman to see)
[05:05] <Serpardum> heh.  partman needs to be updated to work with kubuntu: ${!TAB}${!ALIGN=RIGHT}#1${!TAB}primary${!TAB}${!ALIGN=RIGHT}309.8 GB
[05:05] <LaserJock> DaskreeCH: ok cool, I just wondered if we were talking weeks or shortly
[05:44] <brk> Hello World
[05:53] <brk> any suggestions  apt-get upgrade and update manager have been run, looking @ http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading offers nothing more for ubuntu desktop  still @ ver 8.04, run  root@brk:/home/brk# do-release-upgrade  //  Checking for a new ubuntu release  //  No new release found
[06:00] <Serpardum> if anyone knows grub fairly well, I'm having troubles with grub error 17.
[06:01] <Serpardum> I asked in #grub but not many people in there
[06:01] <Serpardum> The basic problem is that linux finds my ATA drive as drive 2 (3rd drive) but I told my bios to boot to it.
[06:02] <Serpardum> so from what I read when grub boots it can't find the files on hd0 likes it thinks they should be.
[06:03] <Serpardum> now, I was told to go into livecd and go into grub, do a find /boot/grub/stage1 which returns (hd2,0).  Then I'm told to do in grub root (hd2,0) which I did.  But now it tells me to do setup (hd0) which will overwrite my windows MBR which I don't want.  Should I instead do setup (hd2) there???
[06:04] <Serpardum> well, I"m going to try it anyway :/
[06:05] <Serpardum> well, it said it did it, let me try rebooting
[06:13] <nikitis> Where is the menu to disable composite?
[06:28] <Serpardum> How come I do apt-cache search virtualbox, it comes up with 7 replies, none of them exactly "virtualbox".  Yet, I did sudo apt-get install virtualbox and it installed.
[06:29] <Serpardum> the cache shows things such as virtualbox-ose, virtualbox-ose-source, imvirt, vboxgtk, etc..
[06:29] <Serpardum> but no "virtualbox"
[06:29] <Serpardum> I did do sudo apt-get update
[06:32] <mcrandello> Hi I lost the .encryptfs dir does anyone know how to mount my .Private directory
[06:34] <mcrandello> I tried ecryptfs-setup-private but it just goes back to a prompt, I thought it was supposed to be interactive
[06:35] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: They have a dummy package
[06:35] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: try read the manual on the command
[06:35] <mcrandello>  Manual page ecryptfs-setup-private(1) line ?/? (END)
[06:35] <nikitis> Hey guys, i'm new to kde, i forgot how to disable 3d desktop effects
[06:35] <mcrandello> that's all it gives when I type man
[06:37] <FeasibilityStudy> Ok folks, how does one make Kopete render font colors properly?
[06:37] <Serpardum> hmm. is that start->application->settings->Qt 4 Settings
[06:37] <Serpardum> inteface->unclick GUI effects?
[06:38] <Serpardum> guessing since mine is unchecked, don't know what it does
[06:39] <nikitis> naw that's not it
[06:39] <nikitis> i had it down, but i can't remember for the life of me how to disable it
[06:40] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: ouch
[06:40] <mcrandello> DaskreeCH: I figure this is probably bad
[06:40] <DaskreeCH> nikitis: Temporary disable is ctrl+Shift+F12
[06:40] <mcrandello> Honestly any newbies out there do NOT select to encrypt your entire home dir it's not worth it
[06:41] <nikitis> DaskreeCH: didn't do anything
[06:41] <mcrandello> worst setup option ever
[06:41] <DaskreeCH> nikitis: alt+f3 -> configure window behavious -> Disable Desktop effects
[06:42] <mcrandello> eventually you will wonder why there are all these nuisance messages in your logs and uninstall it and think there's going to be a way to recover your data
[06:42] <nikitis> DaskreeCH: it's set to alt+shift+F12 though ;)  thanks
[06:42] <DaskreeCH> Ah curses Yes alt+shift
[06:42] <mcrandello> fact is it's probably turned into random characters on your hdd
[06:42] <nikitis> put me on the right track
[06:42] <nikitis> Thanks
[06:43] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: Probably should move your data before removing a encryption seed
[06:43] <mcrandello> thankfully most of the important stuff is on other partitions
[06:43] <nikitis> DaskreeCH: is there a commandline option to disable compositing?
[06:43] <nikitis> for like when i run a video game
[06:43] <DaskreeCH> YEs
[06:44] <mcrandello> unrm probably doesn't do what I want it to either I suppose ;_;
[06:45] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: no you need your pw and the encryption seed. Ask in #ubuntu they can offer help as well
[06:45] <FeasibilityStudy> mcrandello use whole disk encryption
[06:45] <mcrandello> I don't think I'm going to be using any encryption at all in the future
[06:46] <Serpardum> encryption was designed so you cant read data without the key.  you lost the key
[06:46] <Serpardum> what good would encryption be if you could read it now?
[06:47] <mcrandello> I figured the password I logged in with was the key?
[06:48] <DaskreeCH> nikitis: http://identi.ca/notice/5056497
[06:48] <mcrandello> if it's not the key then having the actual key put in your homedir doesn't make too much sense b/c if they have your password...
[06:49] <nikitis> DaskreeCH: do I add the quotes?
[06:50] <DaskreeCH> Sure why not
[06:50] <nikitis> well i need it in a bash script with other commands
[06:51] <mcrandello> Serpardum: so even with my password, the data is now unusable?
[06:51] <nikitis> ah figured it out
[06:52] <Serpardum> I'm not sure of the encryption scheme.  with your password it *might* be possible.  it depends on the encrytion/key scheme they used
[06:52] <nikitis> k, let's try this little script out.
[06:52] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: I think you can probably get it back with your password but it's certainly not going to be transparent
[06:52] <DaskreeCH> mcrandello: Again Check in #ubuntu
[06:53] <mcrandello> I asked there, someone's looking into it
[06:53] <mcrandello> Not that I'm trying to be aggro mind you, I've already made peace with my loss of files :)
[06:54] <nikitis> DaskreeCH: worked flawlessly!
[06:54] <nikitis> Thanks again
[06:54] <DaskreeCH> Thank Zarin
[06:54] <nikitis> Thank You Zarin
[06:54] <mcrandello> and thanks for helping btw
[06:55] <DaskreeCH> ok
[06:55] <milo_> is google chrome already available for linux?
[06:55] <DaskreeCH> yes
[06:55] <mcrandello> I suppose the encryption scheme as it is makes sense on a true multiuser system, even superuser can't view the files this way
[06:56] <DaskreeCH> That's the idea
[06:57] <mcrandello> for a single user/desktop system though I'm starting to see some flaws in the design as it is ;)
[06:59] <mcrandello> if it's a separate key than the password they may want to base it on either a system-wide seed or something like the epoch time the account was created
[06:59] <mcrandello> something that would make easier recovery in the event of idiots (me)
[07:10] <kevin__> milo_: i dont think so..
[07:10] <FeasibilityStudy> Ok folks, how does one make Kopete render font colors properly?
[07:10] <FeasibilityStudy> Ok folks, how does one make Kopete render font colors properly?
[07:10] <milo_> kevin: ok, but hw is it taking so long?
[07:11] <milo_> kevin: why)
[07:14] <kevin__> milo_: ask the engineers lol.. im not sure but i just put my email in the box
[07:15] <milo_> kevin: hahaha
[07:16] <Mamarok> milo_: there is a chromium nightly build available
[07:17] <milo_> Mamarok: i'v never known that...
[07:18] <Mamarok> milo_: well, how could you, it's not in the regular repositories anyway
[07:18] <Mamarok> also Google Chrome is closed source, only the chromium part is open source
[07:18] <Mamarok> you should try Arora instead :)
[07:18] <milo_> Mamarok: but how can i have access to it ?
[07:19] <Mamarok> milo_: wati, I tell you the repository, second
[07:19] <Mamarok> keep in mind that chromium is very much alpha software, sonot meant for productive use at all
[07:19] <Mamarok> so no
[07:20] <Mamarok> milo_: add this line to your sources.list: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/chromium-daily/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[07:20] <milo_> Mamarok: cool
[07:21] <Mamarok> but Arora is better, and looks like a KDE app at least :)
[07:23] <milo_> Mamarok: so you are not going to tell me the repository?
[07:23] <Mamarok> milo_: see above :)
[07:27] <FeasibilityStudy> Anyone here use Kopete?
[07:28] <master> hi feasibilitystud
[07:28] <Serpardum> I don't even know what kopete is.  Is that some drug like payote?
[07:28] <master> i do use kopete
[07:28] <master> lol
[07:28] <FeasibilityStudy> he
[07:29] <Mamarok> Serpardum: it's the IM client for KDE
[07:29] <master> it is default IM client that come with kde
[07:29] <Serpardum> ahh
[07:29] <Serpardum> I hope there is a miranda that works with kubuntu
[07:29] <Serpardum> probably is
[07:29] <FeasibilityStudy> Well, how can I change the background of my input text window without having to change the whole theme?
[07:29] <Mamarok> Serpardum: and what would Miranda be?
[07:29] <master> never heard of miranda used pidgin before
[07:30] <FeasibilityStudy> my problem: background text window is black, which I want..But the font is also black, which I do not want
[07:30] <master> i'll chekc on the background thing
[07:30] <master> go to configure
[07:30] <master> click on chat window
[07:30] <dwidmann> Mamarok: http://www.miranda-im.org/
[07:30] <master> u should see a tab saying font and color
[07:31] <milo_> mamarok: im back. so...
[07:31] <FeasibilityStudy> master nevermind I got it
[07:31] <Mamarok> Serpardum: Miranda is Windows only, so you can forget about that, try Kopete
[07:31] <FeasibilityStudy> I had to go to plugins
[07:31] <master> plugins?
[07:31] <FeasibilityStudy> text effect
[07:32] <master> ah k...
[07:32] <master> haven't bothered installing anything just using default
[07:32] <master> mamarok using kopete only
[07:32] <FeasibilityStudy> master yeah the regular configure fonts will not allow the fonts to change colors..There needs to be a reworking of how Kopete handles this..Its too difficult to do something so simple
[07:33] <Mamarok> master: ?
[07:33] <master> well kde need a lot of work
[07:33] <master> sorry mamarok tot u were speaking to me
[07:34] <master> my bad
[07:34] <master> first time using irc client
[07:34] <Mamarok> master: np :)
[07:34] <FeasibilityStudy> One other nuance about colors..If I use a dark theme in KDE it will make my text in Firefox really light so that I cant read it..Happens even if I choose NOT to apply KDE colors to non-KDE apps
[07:35] <master> do we have any kubuntu developers on this channel?
[07:35] <master> it would help notifying them on the website
[07:35] <Mamarok> FeasibilityStudy: you can adapt the color scheme in hte system settings and change to light grey instead of white, reads better
[07:35] <Mamarok> master: what for?
[07:35] <Mamarok> and notifying what?
[07:36] <master> mamarok: just wanted to speak to them
[07:36] <Mamarok> master: tell me :)
[07:36] <master> Mamarok: u a dev?
[07:36] <Mamarok> master: I am part of the team, not a dev though
[07:36] <Mamarok> master: but you can still tell me :)
[07:37] <master> Mamarok: well i've just started using kubuntu 9.04 was on windows before now
[07:37] <digdeep> Mamarok: what do you do in a team?
[07:37] <master> still figuring out nooks and cranies
[07:38] <Mamarok> digdeep: al sort of things, support, bug triage, translation, etc.
[07:38] <Mamarok> master: go on, what do you want to tell the devs?
[07:39] <master> Mamarok: well kubuntu does need work
[07:39] <master> mamarok: but i think it's kde 4.3 that should help
[07:39] <Mamarok> master: we know that, but Free Software is allways work in progress :)
[07:39] <master> Mamarok: thats why i love linux
[07:39] <Mamarok> master: kde ç.3 beta 2 is available, but not suitable for beginners
[07:40] <Mamarok> s/ç/4/
[07:40] <master> mamarok: did install it on virtual box and tested it
[07:40] <master> Mamarok: it is quite smooth
[07:40] <Mamarok> ok, so you are not exactly a beginner, it's in the backports-PPA, see the topic :)
[07:40] <Serpardum> miranda is an IM that includes all the IMs, or most of them
[07:41] <master> Serpadum: so does kopete
[07:41] <master> Mamarok: how to see topic?
[07:41] <Serpardum> ahh, cool, then let me use it
[07:41] <Mamarok> type /topic
[07:41] <master> Mamarok: one thing i can't get mail notifications to work on kopete
[07:42] <Mamarok> master: don't know if there is a plugin for it
[07:42] <Serpardum> how do I mount my DVD burner?
[07:42] <Serpardum> I want to burn some isos
[07:42] <master> Serpadum: u new to kubuntu?
[07:42] <Serpardum> about a month
[07:42] <Mamarok> you can get mail notifications in a widget, put it in the panel, so you see when you got mail
[07:42] <Serpardum> I know how to mount hds
[07:42] <Serpardum> I don't know what my dvd would be called
[07:42] <master> Serpadum: welcome to the Kubuntu
[07:43] <Mamarok> Serpardum: normally it's enough to put a media in the drive and start k3b
[07:43] <Serpardum> oh, right, forgot I had an explorer
[07:43] <master> lol
[07:43] <Mamarok> Serpardum: called Dolphin...
[07:43] <master> it's okay
[07:43] <master> takes a while
[07:44] <Serpardum> oh, cool, I can see my windows drivers
[07:44] <Serpardum> *drives
[07:44] <master> hehe
[07:44] <digdeep> Mamarok: it may be off-topic. I wonder how do you guys manage each other, like Project Manager, team, etc
[07:44] <Serpardum> the problem is when installing linux I overwrote my vista mbr on accident, and can't boot into vista to fix it, no cd cause hp and came with restore, dont' want to restore just for mbr.
[07:44] <Serpardum> I think I'm going to have to download a vista CD just to use the fix mbr
[07:45] <Mamarok> digdeep: there is a wiki for it, check here: http://kubuntu.org, link is on top
[07:45] <Mamarok> Serpardum: don't, what for?
[07:45] <Mamarok> !mbr | Serpardum
[07:45] <Serpardum> I have grub installed
[07:45] <master> Mamarok: he wants to dual boot
[07:45] <Serpardum> no
[07:45] <master> not yet ready for linux
[07:45] <Serpardum> yes
[07:45] <Mamarok> well, read the link above, it tells you how to restore your mbr
[07:45] <Serpardum> I want to be able to select vista on boot, I try now and get error
[07:46] <Serpardum> it does?  let me check
[07:46] <Mamarok> Serpardum: just ask on how to do things, that's what this support channel is for :)
[07:46] <master> ah yes grub should allow u to access vista
[07:47] <Mamarok> it does, have a dual boot here, so I can test KDE on Windows :)
[07:47] <Serpardum> yes, but I overwrote my vista MBR on accident
[07:47] <Serpardum> and when I try to go into vista from teh grub menu it doesn't boot
[07:47] <master> u can use edit grub to allow you to boot vista
[07:47] <Serpardum> the only thing I can think of is that I need the vista MBR
[07:47] <Mamarok> Serpardum: read that links I gave you
[07:47] <kevin__> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J2ROjuF8eHs&feature=related
[07:48] <Mamarok> kevin__: don't...
[07:48] <kevin__> kde on widnwos??
[07:48] <Serpardum> mamarok: read 'em
[07:48] <Mamarok> then say what it is first, but don't just post links without explanation
[07:48] <Mamarok> also, he is not talking about that :)
[07:48] <Serpardum> One is "recovering grub after installing vista"
[07:49] <Mamarok> kevin__: don't do this again, warning!
[07:49] <Serpardum> but I need to "recover vista after installing grub"
[07:49] <kevin__> http://paste.ubuntu.com/198275/
[07:49] <Serpardum> I tried running vista in virtualbox, but virtualbox didn't see the drive.  again, missing mbr I think
[07:49] <silviu> i got the same problem:(
[07:50] <Serpardum> as me silvia, or someone else?
[07:50] <master> Serpardum: virtual box creates it own *.vdi drive
[07:50] <silviu> yes as u
[07:50] <Serpardum> if you have the vista CD you can fix it silviu
[07:50] <silviu> i never made the recovery dvd
[07:50] <Mamarok> hm, I guess you overwrote Vista, you might have to restore it and then restore grub
[07:50] <Serpardum> I could of made one?
[07:50] <Serpardum> mamarok: vista is on my 2nd hd
[07:51] <Serpardum> grub/kubuntu on 1st
[07:51] <master> hmmm
[07:51] <Mamarok> Serpardum: wait, I'll look for the restore instructions then
[07:52] <master> i found a link that may help
[07:52] <Serpardum> I found a lot of links that said "run vista CD"
[07:52] <Serpardum> someone just came up with an idea.  run wine
[07:52] <Serpardum> run an exe in there that will fix teh mbr
[07:52] <master> how to dual boot linux with vista with linux installed first
[07:52] <master> http://apcmag.com/how_to_dualboot_vista_with_linux_linux_is_already_installed.htm here link
[07:52] <Serpardum> master: my vista mbr is gone
[07:53] <Serpardum> let me read that
[07:53] <Serpardum> if not I"ll install wine, download an .exe that will fix the vista mbr
[07:53] <Mamarok> Serpardum: check here: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/69013
[07:54] <Serpardum> yes, m amarok: I know that.  But tell me, how can I run fdisk wihtout booting to vista or having a cd? :D
[07:54] <Mamarok> Serpardum: you need to type this in a command line: fdisk /mbr, bout you will need to start your PC with a live cd and go into recovery mode
[07:54] <master> Mamarok: u using quassel?
[07:54] <Mamarok> master: no, irssi, it's a command line IRC client
[07:54] <Mamarok> kevin__: you behave!
[07:54] <master> Mamarok: fixing mbr will disable linux
[07:54] <Serpardum> ahh, that's the crux of the matter.  I dont' have a live cd because it's an HP that only has restore partiion.  I think I'm just going to warez vista live cd and use that.  Only option I can think of now
[07:54] <master> Mamarok: if not mistaken
[07:54] <Mamarok> master: yes, and then you can restore grub
[07:55] <kevin__> Mamarok: okay mama
[07:55] <Mamarok> Serpardum: a Kubuntu live CD will do :)
[07:55] <kevin__> Can anyone xplain why when i booted into win7 today all my programs were uninstalled except google chrome lmao
[07:55] <Mamarok> kevin__: I don't know what you did, sorry
[07:55] <Serpardum> mamarok: will kubuntu run windows .exes ?
[07:55] <kevin__> sometimes i think.. damn you ubuntu.. butn then i get it nice free hug
[07:55] <Serpardum> dos exe s?
[07:56] <Mamarok> kevin__: and watch your language
[07:56] <master> Serpardum: u need to use wine to run dos exe
[07:56] <Mamarok> Serpardum: no, you don't have to run a windos .exe file, read what I told you above carefully
[07:56] <kevin__> Wine + Spotify = me happy
[07:56] <Serpardum> okay, let me just download wine, run the .exe I can download that makes windows mbr
[07:57] <Serpardum> fdisk exists on livecd O.o
[07:57] <master> yes serpardum
[07:57] <Serpardum> I understand, however, that the fdisk /mbr works fine for xp, but the mbr changed for vista
[07:57] <master> aiya that be true
[07:57] <Mamarok> Serpardum: did you read the microsoft link I gave you?
[07:59] <Serpardum> ahh, easyBCD is a linux program, let me just download that
[07:59] <Serpardum> or, no, hmnmm.
[07:59] <Mamarok> Serpardum: do you still want to restore your /mbr, yes or no?
[07:59] <master> Serpardum: listen to mamarok
[08:00] <master> he sounds experienced in this matter
[08:00] <Serpardum> I did read it
[08:00] <Serpardum> And I have to install vista
[08:00] <Mamarok> Serpardum: no, please read carefully *sigh*
[08:00] <Serpardum> the thing is, if I wanted to reinstall vista I'd just do that from the restore
[08:00] <Serpardum> unless EasyBCD will do it
[08:01] <Mamarok> Serpardum: I give up, do what you want, but don't ask for support then *sihg*
[08:01] <master> Mamarok: be patient he is new
[08:02] <Mamarok> master: I asked him several times to read what I wrote, he doesn't so, his problem now
[08:02] <Serpardum> hmm.. something else is wrong then
[08:02] <Serpardum> I've read it, many times
[08:02] <master> Mamarok: i remember what it was like switching completely to kubuntu 9.04 with alpha 4
[08:02] <Serpardum> I have like 20 links open telling me about the same in different ways
[08:02] <Mamarok> Serpardum: I can give you the exact isntructions, but you need to focus, please
[08:02] <Serpardum> but I see that I already did what it said a long time ago
[08:02] <Serpardum> root (hd2... )
[08:02] <Serpardum> hmmm.. that might be wrong
[08:02] <Mamarok> Serpardum: and if you are only here to think aloud, it will not help...
[08:02] <Serpardum> oh shoot
[08:02] <Serpardum> let me fix my grub
[08:02] <Serpardum> it's not the mbr
[08:02] <FloodBotK2> Serpardum: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:03] <Serpardum> I have the root set to (hd2,0) instead of (hd0,0)
[08:03] <Serpardum> because the order of hte disks had swapped around
[08:03] <Mamarok> Serpardum: please, supprt question sonly here, do not post your thinkings, or I will have to remove you!
[08:03] <Serpardum> don't bother
[08:03] <master> Serpardum: aiya
[08:04] <master> lol
[08:04] <Mamarok> *sigh*
[08:04] <master> that was funny
[08:04] <master> Mamarok: can you teach me how to use quassel?
[08:04] <Mamarok> not really, no, I could have spend my time on more productive things in the mean time....
[08:04] <Mamarok> master: what do you want to know?
[08:05] <master> Mamarok: how to change channels how to use http://paste.ubuntu.com and why is it when u type my name it comes highlighted
[08:06] <Mamarok> ok, when typing the name of somebody he gets highlighted to ask for attention
[08:06] <Mamarok> changing channels: you can either just join channels with /join #channelname, or add new channels in the settings you join automatically
[08:07] <master> when i type ur name Mamarok it does get highlighted?
[08:07] <Mamarok> yes, of course, that's what it is for :)
[08:07] <master> Mamarok: how to search channels
[08:07] <Mamarok> depends, what channel you are looking for and what IRC network
[08:07] <master> okay
[08:08] <master> another thing how do i get the social desktop to work
[08:08] <master> i saw this feature where it automatically connects to all kde or kubuntu users
[08:08] <Mamarok> master: that is only in its' beginnings, you need an account on opendesktop.org and make friends
[08:09] <Mamarok> you will not see all kde or kubuntu users by default :)
[08:09] <master> ah...
[08:09] <Mamarok> if Aaron demonstrates it, he shows a lot of friends, because he knows all the KDE folk :)
[08:09] <master> :)
[08:10] <master> i want to contribute to kubuntu and kde as well but don't know where to begin
[08:10] <master> i have ideas but i'm very bad at linux i learnt most of it thanx to using alpha 4 of jaunty
[08:10] <master> it kept breaking all over the place
[08:10] <master> that was fun
[08:11] <master> the thing is kubuntu is going windows way making it easier for newbies but i wanna learn more
[08:12] <Mamarok> master: well, reading a lot is the first thin, check on kubuntu.org in the community and wiki links
[08:12] <Mamarok> master: and it's not Kubuntu that is running on Windows, but KDE
[08:12] <Mamarok> Kubuntu is a Linux distribution only
[08:12] <master> Mamarok: ah true
[08:12] <master> Mamarok: my mistake
[08:13] <Mamarok> np :)
[08:13] <master> Mamarok: would you know anything about data mining?
[08:13] <Mamarok> master: read stuff, add #kde to your channels and read the questions/answers there too, it helps a lot
[08:14] <Mamarok> master: data mining is finding stuff onling, mostly done with searches on Goolge et al.
[08:14] <Mamarok> online*
[08:14] <Mamarok> and social network sites, etc
[08:14] <master> Mamarok: yes but google doesn't match my requirements
[08:14] <master> Mamarok i hate social networks
[08:14] <Mamarok> master: well, there is more than Google :)
[08:15] <master> Mamarok: exactly what i'm looking for but can't find
[08:15] <Mamarok> what data are you looking for? Maybe you are just not searching correctly
[08:16] <Mamarok> I can find pretty much everything with tools like that
[08:16] <master> Mamarok: i happen to be interested in searching for new tech software and hardware but there is no proper place to find stuff
[08:16] <Mamarok> just needs time something
[08:16] <master> Mamarok as in make it come together
[08:16] <Mamarok> master: we are getting OT here, please join #kubuntu-offtopic for discussion :)
[08:16] <master> Mamarok: hwo to join
[08:17] <master> Mamarok wait
[08:17] <master> join #kubuntu-offtopic
[08:17] <Mamarok> forgot the /
[08:17] <Mamarok> its /join
[08:17] <master> Mamarok yeha i figured
[08:34] <dede> why kubuntu can't play music on presentation?
[08:35] <master> dede it is not kubuntu
[08:35] <master> dede but the office software your using
[08:36] <Mamarok> dede: you need a music player, try Amarok
[08:36] <master> mamarok he said music in presentation
[08:36] <Mamarok> he said on presentation...
[08:36] <dede> ok.. i use Ubuntu and it's OK to play music on open office presentation but when i use kubuntu, i can't play any music in open office presentation
[08:37] <Mamarok> you are using 9.04?
[08:37] <dede> yup
[08:37] <sancho21> How to share my directory with samba without opening config file?
[08:37] <sancho21> In kubuntu 9.04
[08:38] <Mamarok> dede: then you probably have a borked sound installation, make sure you have nothing muted in kmix
[08:38] <Mamarok> sancho21: not, you need to configure samba of course, check the system settings :)
[08:40] <sancho21> Mamarok, which menu?
[08:40] <Mamarok> sancho21: you use XP or Vista?
[08:40] <oobe> sancho21, system-settings networking connectivity sharing
[08:40] <dede> Mamarok: it isn't muted at all. in fact, the button of media player in openoffice not working
[08:40] <sancho21> this is Kubuntu 9.04 with KDE4.2
[08:40] <Mamarok> dede: do you have sound in VLC or such on Kubuntu?
[08:41] <dede> yes i have
[08:41] <sancho21> oobe, I see only Window Shares tab
[08:41] <Mamarok> sancho21: but the shared network partition, is it on XP or Vista
[08:41] <sancho21> Mamarok, I just want to share my directory into network so that window users can access it
[08:42] <oobe> sorry sancho21 i spoke to soon i dont know how to do it the gui way only the stable and reliable way
[08:42] <Mamarok> sancho21: you have samba installed, right?
[08:42] <sancho21> Yes I do
[08:42] <sancho21> This is should be no problem inKDE3.5
[08:42] <Mamarok> oh, you want to make your directory accessible on the net for everybody?
[08:43] <sancho21> Mamarok, yes just like Window users usually do
[08:44] <Mamarok> sancho21: hm, configure Samba then, the same way you did in KDE 3.5
[08:44] <Mamarok> see system settings -> Sharing
[08:44] <sancho21> Mamarok, sorry I think I didn't need to edit /etc/samba/smb.conf in KDE 3.5
[08:45] <sancho21> There must be something missing in KDE4.2
[08:45] <Mamarok> sancho21: no, you did a GUI isntallation, just go to the sharing section in the system settings :)
[08:45] <master> Mamarok what bout dede's problem
[08:45] <Mamarok> if your samba is configured that is, else it's in the advanced tab in the system settings -> Samba
[08:46] <Mamarok> mshe left
[08:46] <Mamarok> he left
[08:46] <master> k...
[08:46] <master> i gotta go to
[08:46] <Mamarok> cu
[08:46] <master> nice talking to you and thanx for the help
[08:46] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[08:46] <sancho21> I did Mamarok, what do you mean by "is configured" ?
[08:47] <master> :)
[08:47] <sancho21> I see no Samba menu there (in adv tab)
[08:47] <Mamarok> sancho21: well, you have to configure sanba, then share your directory, then access it from windows
[08:47] <Mamarok> sancho21: hm, strange, no button of a globe with a tool on it?
[08:48] <sancho21> Mamarok, what's the menu name? Samba? I use search field above, and it gives nothing to "Samba"
[08:48] <Mamarok> sancho21: look at the icons in the advanced tab
[08:48] <sancho21> Mamarok, I did
[08:49] <Mamarok> samba has a blue globe with a tool on it
[08:49] <sancho21> Mamarok, what package? May be I missed some packages?
[08:50] <sancho21> sudo apt-get install samba
[08:50] <Mamarok> !samba
[08:50] <Mamarok> !info smb
[08:50] <Mamarok> !info samba
[08:51] <Mamarok> yes, but normally it should be already installed I think
[08:51] <Mamarok> no, option, so indeed one has to install it first
[08:53] <sancho21> Mamarok, so?
[08:53] <Mamarok> probalby due to me having KDE 4.3 here then
[08:54] <Mamarok> brb, phone
[08:59] <Mamarok> back
[08:59] <Mamarok> sancho21: you probably need to run systemsettings with kedesudo to see the samba configuration
[09:30] <mehrab1131> hi, I've tried to upgrade my KDE to 4.3 beta using backport repo. but I got some errors during upgrade. and I get that error even when I wanna install any package. this is the error: http://pastebin.com/d444f20ae
[09:37] <mehrab1131> any Idea?
[09:43] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: you need to force a few packages, there were name changes, sorry
[09:43] <StR|Sangreal> !hello world
[09:43] <StR|Sangreal> !karmic
[09:44] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: does sudo apt-get -f install help?
[09:45] <Mamarok> StR|Sangreal: if you want to query the bot often, you can do this in a query so it doesn't flood the channel :)
[09:46] <StR|Sangreal> Mamarok: actually i'm not to query it often :)
[09:46] <Mamarok> ok then :)
[09:46] <StR|Sangreal> !bye
[09:47] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: sudo apt-get -f install just give this: http://pastebin.com/d422872c0
[09:48] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: try this: sudo apt-get install kdebase
[09:51] <mehrab1131> again the same error: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/v6LhnF
[09:51] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: do you really need kdebase-workspace-dev?
[09:52] <Mamarok> it's not a 4.2.90 package AFAIK
[09:52] <Mamarok> try removing it and install kdebase
[09:52] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: as I said I get this error whenever I want to install any package, even when I want to remove any package. and i should say after upgrade I have many problems with my desktop
[09:54] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: well, as long as you don't have the 4.2.90 kdebase packages it will not work, but we should be able to sort this out
[09:55] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: this is my desktop after upgrade: http://imagebin.ca/view/i34rKrx.html
[09:55] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: as I said, your kdebase is not completely installed, that's why, we will get around, don't worry
[09:55]  * Mamarok checks the output again
[09:56] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: try that: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-workspace-dev_4%3a4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2_i386.deb
[09:58] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/jmoR4v
[09:59] <pan1nx> hey
[09:59] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: sudo dpkg --configure -a
[10:00] <pan1nx> did anyone get the keyboard totally locked in KDE 4.2? you can only use ALT+Fn
[10:00] <pan1nx> but nothing else works?
[10:00] <Mamarok> pan1nx: probalby a X driver problem
[10:00] <Mamarok> what graphic card do you have?
[10:00] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: http://www.mibbit.com/pb/2uH5vP
[10:01] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: could you use the paste.ubuntu.com, please?
[10:02] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: ok, again, sudo apt-get -f install
[10:02] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: btw, I just told the devs, they will fix it :)
[10:04] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198352/
[10:05] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: bingo :) it worked!
[10:06] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: just try again update and upgrade, to be sure we didn't miss something
[10:06] <pan1nx> intel Mamarok
[10:06] <pan1nx> but everything else works
[10:06] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: OK, thanks
[10:06] <kingwolf> where am i?
[10:06] <Mamarok> pan1nx: hm, which one? lspci tells you the model
[10:06] <Mamarok> kingwolf: read the topic, please
[10:06] <pan1nx> is there a way to recover the keyboard? withour restarting X
[10:06] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: you are welcome :)
[10:07] <kingwolf> i am a chinese,who erter here
[10:07] <pan1nx> ah, intel pos 82q35 on board controler
[10:07] <Mamarok> pan1nx: !cn | kingwolf
[10:07] <Mamarok> sry, wrong nick
[10:08] <Mamarok> !cn | kingwolf
[10:08] <mehrab1131> Mamarok: I thing it's working. now it is upgrading. thank you very much
[10:08] <Mamarok> mehrab1131: you are welcome, it also helps to improve the packaging btw, so the developers know what hs to be improved :)
[10:09] <PhilRod> hi, I have a .deb file that specifies dependencies - how do I install it? "dpkg -i foo.deb" doesn't try to get the dependencies, while "apt-get" wants a package name, not a file
[10:09] <PhilRod> and clicking on the icon in dolphin says "an error occurred"
[10:10] <kingwolf> sorry ,i forgot why my account can wait here,is it i have regist an account?
[10:10] <kingwolf> one has quit
[10:14] <pan1nx> so, any way to restart the Xorg keyboard without restarting X?
[10:14] <Mamarok> pan1nx: no, sorry, you will have to kill X
[10:15] <pan1nx> so, is it the intel video driver that causes this keyboard?
[10:15] <Mamarok> pan1nx: and that is the graphic card above? strange numbering...
[10:15] <Mamarok> pan1nx: likely, yes
[10:15] <stephan_> hi, ive installaed current beta of kde 4.3
[10:16] <Mamarok> PhilRod: a *.deb package doesn't get dependencies, only packages do that as the dependencies are in the package
[10:16] <stephan_> (plasma memory leak ist fix there)
[10:16] <Mamarok> PhilRod: what do you try to install?
[10:16] <stephan_> no system is broken, apt-get install -f   "trying to overwrite `/usr/lib/kde4/libexec/kdesu', which is also in package kdesud"
[10:16] <stephan_> happens while dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2_amd64.deb (--unpack):
[10:16] <Mamarok> stephan_: could you please give me all the output in http://paste.ubuntu.com, please?
[10:17] <PhilRod> Mamarok: the amazon mp3 downloader. When I run "sudo dpkg -i amazonmp3.deb", I get errors like: "amazonmp3 depends on libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a; however:Package libgtkmm-2.4-1c2a is not installed."
[10:17] <Mamarok> PhilRod: well, then you need to install that package
[10:18] <stephan_> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198362/
[10:18] <PhilRod> Mamarok: ok, so the only option is to install all of the dependencies manually?
[10:19] <Mamarok> PhilRod: no, those are likely in the repositories, check with sudo apt-get install libgtkm
[10:19] <Mamarok> PhilRod: but those are gnome packages, just FYI
[10:19] <stephan_> Mamarok: ups, missed the critical part
[10:19] <stephan_> http://paste.ubuntu.com/198364/
[10:20] <Mamarok> stephan_: we can override that, just a dependency problem, moment
[10:21] <Mamarok> stephan_: sudo dpkg -i --force-overwrite /var/cache/apt/archives/kdebase-runtime_4%3a4.2.90-0ubuntu1~jaunty1~ppa2_amd64.deb
[10:23] <stephan_> Mamarok: thank you very much, installation complete successfully
[10:23] <Riddell> PhilRod: gdebi or kpackagekit would sort those for you.   apt-get -f install  from the command line though
[10:23] <Mamarok> stephan_: just du an upgrade and update again to make sure you didn't miss something
[10:25] <stephan_> Mamarok: done, everything seam OK now
[10:25] <stephan_> try to relogin now
[10:25] <stephan_> :)
[10:26] <Mamarok> stephan_: nice :)
[10:33] <PhilRod> Riddell, Mamarok: thanks for the help. Have to go now, but will try again this evening with your suggestions
[10:33] <Mamarok> PhilRod: you are welcome :)
[10:33] <stephan_> Mamarok: system works again (after rebooting) llooks very good
[10:34] <Mamarok> stephan_: nice :) enjoy it then :)
[11:19] <pipo> huhu...jemand da, wer mir hier helfen könnte?!
[11:25] <StR|Sangreal> hello, please how can i enable window previews upon main panel in kwin?
[11:27] <StR|Sangreal> done
[11:27] <StR|Sangreal> !bye
[12:16] <COm_BOY> i know the working of netstat , but i dont know why this extension is used i.e. netstat -antp
[12:23] <jussi01> COm_BOY: have you had a read of its man page?
[12:23] <COm_BOY> no
[12:24] <COm_BOY> how to read man page
[12:24] <jussi01> !man
[12:24] <jussi01> COm_BOY: so: man netstat
[12:30] <abdullah> i cant join #ubuntu channel
[12:30] <bazhang> abdullah, /join #ubuntu-ops
[12:33] <abdullah> #ubuntu-ops
[12:33] <bazhang> abdullah, /join
[12:40] <abdullah_> #ubuntu-ops
[13:03] <remoteCTR1> hi guys! can anyone pls tell me what the name of kdes networkmanager applet is?
[13:03] <zer0o> hi guys, how can i recover some accidentally delete files? i know that by deleting them it just deletes the "link" to the files but does not really remove em, how do i recover em? thanks
[13:06] <remoteCTR1> zer0o, either you delete something in the gui then you will find it in the trash or you delete it in the console then it is blanked out; linux REALLY deletes files and does not just remove the inode...
[13:06] <zer0o> remoteCTR1: i deleted em with shift + canc
[13:07] <makdaknife> zer0o: as far as I understand things, its pretty difficult to recover a file that has been deleted from the filesystem, and really its dependent on the filesystem that you choose to use... nonetheless... you may find this link useful http://www.xs4all.nl/~carlo17/howto/undelete_ext3.html
[13:07] <zer0o> remoteCTR1: it seems u can recover em indeed https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery
[13:07] <remoteCTR1> zer0o, what makdaknife said...
[13:08] <remoteCTR1> zer0o, ok my bad then...
[13:08] <Mamarok> that's what a journaling filesystem is here for
[13:08] <zer0o> i think its not an ext3 partition but an ntfs
[13:09] <Mamarok> zer0o: then do it from Windows, not a good idea to restore it from Linux as ntfs is a proprietary filesystem
[13:09] <makdaknife> zer0o: I'm not even sure you want to go down this route... take it as a hard lesson and make a point of keeping backups
[13:10] <remoteCTR1> :D
[13:11] <remoteCTR1> ok guys anyone got an idea how kde's network manager applet is called?
[13:11] <zer0o> makdaknife: NTFSprogrs its on ubuntu's offical documentation, so surely i have a chance...
[13:12] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: network-management-widget I think
[13:12] <makdaknife> zer0o: hey... I'm not saying its not possible... just offering you the best of luck and warning you that your chances are slim ;-)
[13:13] <zer0o> makdaknife: its what we all hope, since i deleted some files that could have saved the world :D
[13:15] <zer0o> cool, i installed ntfsprogs then run ntfsundelete /dev/nameofmyharddrive and it did restore em, all of em :( so now im gonna have to do some cleaning ::D
[13:16] <zer0o> something else, it does not let me use my burner anymore, it's the only "cdrom0" that i have, was working till 2 days ago, now it doesnt anymore, saying i have no permission, didnt change anything, whatz going on? thanks
[13:22] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, i am afraid not...
[13:23] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: it's installed by default, so search in the "add widget" browser
[13:23] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: plasma-widget-network-manager
[13:23] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, that a hint, will do that as soon as i find it :D
[13:23] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, nice! thanks alot man!
[13:24] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[13:24]  * Mamarok is not a man though :)
[13:24] <remoteCTR1> so rocking mama?
[13:24] <remoteCTR1> double nice!
[13:24] <Mamarok> exactly :)
[13:24] <remoteCTR1> thanks maam in that case*g*
[13:24] <Mamarok> :)
[13:25] <remoteCTR1> juist one more thingie... wheres that add widget browser?
[13:25] <Mamarok> right click on your desktop, add widgets
[13:25] <remoteCTR1> aw lord
[13:25] <remoteCTR1> thanks:)
[13:25] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[13:27] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, err.. i gotta beblind or something...
[13:27] <makdaknife> lol
[13:27] <remoteCTR1> i cant find it:D
[13:28] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: on the empty desktop, right click, use the option "Add widgets"
[13:28] <remoteCTR1> basically i dont wanna start it but remove it from autostart...
[13:28] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, ya that i found but i dont see any network widgets in there...?
[13:28] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: there is a search bar, type network in it
[13:28] <remoteCTR1> ah!
[13:28] <remoteCTR1> got it
[13:28] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: you want to remove it from the panel you mean?
[13:28] <remoteCTR1> gawd im such a noob
[13:29] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, yeah but permanently
[13:29] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: we all were at some point
[13:29] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, yeah i suppose so:)
[13:29] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, point is i am a systems administrator :D
[13:29] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: then right click on the widget and remve it
[13:29] <Mamarok> remove*
[13:30] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: system admins also begin with new stuff sometimes :)
[13:30]  * Mamarok only administrates her PCs
[13:32] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, yeah basically i use gnome ya know on my like 15 workstations here but boss wants kde, so...
[13:32] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: never too late it seems :)
[13:32] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, ya more like too early*g*
[13:33] <remoteCTR1> ladies on linux gawd is that sexy:)
[13:33] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: well, 4.2 works pretty well for most of the stuff, just make sure to use the 4.2.4 version, it has a lot of bugfixes
[13:33] <remoteCTR1> youre like one in a gazillion i believe
[13:33] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: exactly, and careful in your wording, family friendly channel here ;)
[13:34] <remoteCTR1> ya that would maybe help... i am trying to implement a certificate based authentication for wifi and that one works just fine in gnome but i just cant get it done in kde:-/
[13:34] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, err.. was i not?
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> for sure didnt mean to offend;)
[13:35] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, i am afraid that wasnt what i was looking for...
[13:35] <Yanick_> hi, why is it that, when Amarok or Firefox (Flash) play some sound, no other app can play sound until I close the application?
[13:35] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: you didn't :)
[13:36] <remoteCTR1> there's this icon in the notification area
[13:36] <Mamarok> Yanick_: that's a Flash problem, unfortunately
[13:36] <Yanick_> Mamarok, I see
[13:36] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: screenshot to imagebin.ch?
[13:36] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, you know what i mean?
[13:36] <Mamarok> imagebin.ca, sry
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> du bisch a schwizerin?
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> ah ok :D
[13:37] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, will try, just a sec pls
[13:37] <Mamarok> ksnapshot is the tool btw
[13:38] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, i was just going to ask as i have no print screen button on this lap here..
[13:39] <tdn> How do I force my CPU to use 2.5GHz instead of 800MHz (powersave)?
[13:40] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, gosh, i cant... when i employ ksnapshot the menu goes away in the taskbar...
[13:40] <Mamarok> tdn: system settings, advanced tab, power management
[13:40] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, look there is this globe in the notification area
[13:40] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, if you click on that you can choose from your connections
[13:40] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: what KDE version do you use? I don't have a globe here
[13:41] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, err... gimme a sec to figure that out
[13:41] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: what Kubuntu version?
[13:42] <tdn> Mamarok, it is already on Performance, but proc/cpuinfo says it runs 800MHz and not 2.5GHz.
[13:42] <Mamarok> Jaunty?
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, most of this says 4.2.2.
[13:42] <Mamarok> tdn: then right click on it and change to performance
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok,  intrepid
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> as graphics drivers dont seem to work with jaunty for this device...
[13:42] <Mamarok> ok, then it was a globe in Intrepid, can't remember :)
[13:42] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, gosh:D
[13:43] <tdn> Mamarok, it is already set to performance.
[13:43] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: in the system settings, advanced tab, autostart
[13:43] <remoteCTR1> so waht have you got to connect to something?
[13:43] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, k, thx
[13:43] <Mamarok> tdn: performance is set dynamically, depends on the system need
[13:43]  * remoteCTR1 looking
[13:43] <tdn> Mamarok, yeah. I want to set it to max power.
[13:44] <Mamarok> tdn: performance is max power, but dynamic :)
[13:44] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, that is completely empty...
[13:44] <tdn> But I don't want dynamically scaling. I want 2.5GHz all the time.
[13:44] <Mamarok> tdn: then change it in powermanagement
[13:45] <Mamarok> tdn: carful, this can easily overheat the machine though
[13:46] <Mamarok> careful even
[13:46] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: what exactly do you want to do, could you just tell it again, please?
[13:47] <Mamarok> hi rgreening :)
[13:47] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, i am trying to remove that kde notification area applet permanently in order to use gnome's instead
[13:48] <remoteCTR1> cos with that one the wifi thing works just fine
[13:48] <remoteCTR1> and i have been trying to get this fixed in kde for like 10 hopurs now and now i have enuff of it...:)
[13:48] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: then remove the kde network manager package?
[13:48] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, is that a very own package for kde??
[13:49] <remoteCTR1> err. just a sec pls
[13:49] <Mamarok> it's called network-manager-kde I think
[13:49] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, aw lord...
[13:49] <remoteCTR1> it is
[13:50] <remoteCTR1> and dpkg says its the systray applet for kde for controlling the networkmanager
[13:50] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, thanks alot once more maam:)
[13:50] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: yaw :)
[13:51] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: if you like Gnome, use synaptic as packet manager, runs in KDE too :)
[13:52] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, basically doing that exclusively with cli tools:)
[13:52] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, may i ask where you're from?
[13:53] <Mamarok> your western neighbor country :)
[13:54] <remoteCTR1> naw i'm not from switzerland i am from austria
[13:54] <remoteCTR1> so youre french?
[13:55] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: read what I wrote :)
[13:55] <Mamarok> what is in the West of Austria?
[13:55]  * Mamarok did a /whois earlier
[13:56] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, also war das doch ein freudscher verschreiber vorhin?*g*
[13:56] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: it was indeed :)
[13:56] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, hehe
[13:56] <remoteCTR1> how nice:)
[13:56] <remoteCTR1> planet is a village right?
[13:56] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: btw, there is also a german speaking channel, #kubuntu-de, FYI
[13:57] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, i am aware of that, thanks but i guess there are like 20 ppl in there?
[13:57] <remoteCTR1> err.. nope its 38*g*
[13:57] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: well, there are a few very talented amongst them too :)
[13:58] <remoteCTR1> hehe i am sure about that, yet still in my experience the more ppl the more likely you are to get supported
[13:58] <remoteCTR1> ...
[13:58] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: yes, more eyes
[13:58] <remoteCTR1> aw lord... now i got stacktraces-.-
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[13:59] <remoteCTR1> Mamarok, r u really a mama?
[13:59] <Mamarok> remoteCTR1: now it's getting OT :) -> #kubuntu-offtopic
[13:59] <remoteCTR1> sure:)
[14:11] <adasz> hi my laptop has reached the critical temperature of 115°C and shutdown. How can i chence the max temperature?
[14:17] <Serpardum> "Dragon player recommends installing packages for extra multimedia functionality."  Great info.  But why can't it tell me *WHAT* packages it recommends?
[14:28] <Mamarok> adasz: you shouldn't
[14:29] <Mamarok> unless you set it lower
[14:30] <adasz> hm how can i look witch temperatur it have?
[14:30] <Serpardum> cpu temperature?
[14:31] <Serpardum> I know that there is a "speedfan" for windows, I'm sure there' something good for linux too
[14:31] <Mamarok> !lm-sensors | adasz
[14:32] <Mamarok> Serpardum, for Dragonplayer estras, check here:
[14:32] <Mamarok> !codecs
[14:34] <Serpardum> oh, it wants me to download the codecs. I know what those are.   Dragon should of said "codecs"  thanks :D
[14:36] <drif> any way to disable 'tapping' on laptop?
[14:47] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- you know what codecs are, but the "average user" most likely doesn't
[14:48] <mattia> hgdfgfthftf
[14:48] <mattia> < ! ! >
[14:59] <Serpardum> Hmm.. trying to install flash.  closest I see is the one for ubuntu 8.04.  I donwload the .deb but get error while trying to install.  which one should I use?
[15:01] <HaRDi437> for firefox?
[15:03] <Serpardum> for konqueror, but finding out what I downloaded wont work on x86_64
[15:03] <Serpardum> I'm starting to hate konqueror thoght, it freeze up for a time a lot
[15:04] <HaRDi437> yep
[15:04] <Serpardum> running firefox now
[15:05] <HaRDi437> for firefox use the flash plugin
[15:06] <Serpardum> thats what I was trying to do... oh, I'm watching the youtube vido so I think it dled that when I installed firefox
[15:06] <HaRDi437> kpacktagkit + flash
[15:06] <Mamarok> Serpardum: there is a flsh plugin in the repos
[15:06] <Serpardum> now I have to figure out why I cant get any sound
[15:06] <Serpardum> let me try that then also
[15:06] <HaRDi437> :D
[15:06] <Mamarok> flashplugin-nonfree AFAIK
[15:07] <Serpardum> it oculd find flsh or flash
[15:07] <Serpardum> let me look again
[15:07] <HaRDi437> you may also install same addons for bettre integration with KDE
[15:07] <Zorael> Serpardum: No sound in Flash but sound everywhere else?
[15:07] <Serpardum> zoreal: I'm not sure.
[15:08] <Serpardum> I first tried it in a movie in realplayer and no sound there
[15:08] <Serpardum> now no sound in youtube video
[15:08] <Zorael> Serpardum: see http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=6883063
[15:08] <Serpardum> is there some sound file I can try to play taht comes with kubuntu to make srue it's not my headphones?
[15:08] <HaRDi437> konquerfox for eg
[15:08] <HaRDi437> And the kde4 + firefox theme (alpha i think but work well for me )
[15:10] <Zorael> Serpardum: do this in a terminal: "speaker-test -twav -c2"
[15:10] <Zorael> to test speakers, obviously
[15:11] <Zorael> HaRDi437: Got a link to Konquerfox? Never heard of it
[15:12] <Mamarok> HaRDi437: what would that be?
[15:12] <HaRDi437> https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/2671
[15:13] <Serpardum> yeah, tryign that zoreal, nothing but som ebuzzing
[15:13] <Serpardum> in the correct ears though *shrug*
[15:13] <Serpardum> but slight buzzing only.  weird
[15:14] <colinzio> hifd
[15:15] <Zorael> Serpardum: if you don't do -twav it'll only be static
[15:15] <Serpardum> got it.
[15:15] <Serpardum> it was volumes all scrwed up
[15:15] <Zorael> :3
[15:15] <Zorael> happens
[15:15] <Serpardum> alsamixer showed the problem
[15:16] <Serpardum> the main volume was all the way up, but it was some ohter volumes that were all the way down *shrug*
[15:17] <Serpardum> thanks for the help, the link did it
[15:18] <Serpardum> Okay.  Now I have another (same?) issue.  I have headphones plugged in the front, and in the back it goes to my monitor.  In vista if I had the headphones in the monitor speakers wouldn't play.  But now it's playing both, my headphones and the monitor.  Anyway to fix that?  or at least turn off the rear/monitor speakers in software or a program?
[15:22] <ilkin> hi guys
[15:23] <ilkin> how to share internet connection in Kubuntu via bluetoth?
[15:23] <ilkin> *bluetooth
[15:30] <naffah>                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                            
[15:30] <naffah>                                                                                                                           wach
[15:35] <Serpardum> How do I open the volume control?  Before it was a speaker on my bottom bar, but once I closed it, it's gone.  Went through all the programs in the applications and settings and see nothing for volume although I can still use the text based alsamixer
[15:37] <robin0800> Serpardum, I think its an appelet
[15:37] <Serpardum> ahh, let me try to find ot
[15:37] <Serpardum> *out
[15:37] <Serpardum> widget you mean?
[15:38] <robin0800> Serpardum, Yes
[15:38] <Serpardum> hmm.. searching for vo doesn't find anything (as in volume control)
[15:38] <Serpardum> vo brings up quicklaunch and picture frame
[15:42] <Dragnslcr> Serpardum- you might be thinking of kmix. I think it usually has a systray icon
[15:43] <Serpardum> it was in there, but somehow it's gone :(
[15:43] <Serpardum> yes, it is/was kmix
[16:25] <omar_> hhoolaaaaaaaaaa
[16:28] <omar_> hay alguien la puta madre
[16:33] <Dragnslcr> !es | omar_
[16:34] <omar_> holaaaa
[16:35] <bmv> wenas
[16:43] <chrisrc1> hi
[16:45] <chrisrc1> i've tried to set up a vpn connection with the networkmanager plasmoid in jaunty. however, everytime i enter data in the field and click ok, it disappears and is not stored anywhere. once i open the dialogue again, all the settings are gone. is this a bug?
[16:48] <jamo> hello
[16:48] <jamo> i've got a question
[17:01] <Zorael> chrisrc1: Sounds like it, so to the launchpadmobile
[17:02] <chrisrc1> Zorael: ?
[17:02] <Zorael> chrisrc1: "i've tried to set up a vpn connection with the networkmanager plasmoid in jaunty. however, everytime i enter data in the field and click ok, it disappears and is not stored anywhere. once i open the dialogue again, all the settings are gone. is this a bug?"
[17:25] <halberd> what are the steps kubuntu takes, from the point when you plug in a device (like a keyboard) to the point when it starts working?
[17:26] <tsimpson> that has nothing to do with KDE as such, but  the kernel
[17:35] <marcreichelt> hi there
[17:35] <marcreichelt> I have Kubuntu 8.04 installed and want to copy files to an external disk with NTFS on it
[17:36] <marcreichelt> it is mounted correctly, but I am not able to copy files with special characters to it
[17:37] <marcreichelt> the same hard disk is mounted correctly under Ubuntu 9.04 so that files with UTF-8 characters in the file names can be copied to the disk
[17:39] <defrysk> marcel, you need to add utf8 to the mount options
[17:41] <defrysk> marcreichelt,  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab  and have a good look at the examples
[17:42] <marcreichelt> defrysk: I used http://wiki.ubuntuusers.de/FUSE/ntfs-3g#Manuell and it works now
[17:42] <marcreichelt> but why isn't the UTF8 option added automatically?
[17:43] <marcreichelt> I mean on Ubuntu 8.04
[17:44] <marcreichelt> ok, it works now :)
[17:44] <marcreichelt> thanks, defrysk
[17:49] <Guest52611> hey, any1 knows how to change pc name on kde 4.2? :-)
[18:26] <max_> hallo! Who is from UA?
[18:28] <max_> Але?
[18:28] <linux> oiiiiiiii
[18:30] <max_> Тут хтось про щось говорить?
[18:31] <max_> чи просто конект і дісконекс?
[18:31] <Pici> !ru
[18:31] <ubuntu__> he is no russian
[18:31] <max_> да был я там. просто
[18:31] <max_> :) я понимаю 3 языка
[18:32] <ubuntu__> тогда привет
[18:32] <max_> привет
[18:33] <max_> сидел страдал, и вот что заметил! припопитке запустить  2 приложения с доступом к звуковому каналу - работает только одна програма.
[18:33] <solifugus> Can anyone here speak Volcan, to show him off?
[18:33] <ubuntu__> ну это легко исправляется
[18:33] <max_> это у все так?
[18:33] <Pici> !en| ubuntu__ max_
[18:33] <ubuntu__> тебе на форум forum.ubuntu.ru
[18:33] <ubuntu__> в поиск
[18:34] <ubuntu__> sorry
[18:34] <solifugus> It's not fair.. there's no channel for Ubuntu support in Vulcan!
[18:35] <max_> ))там много текста мало толка. нету списка каналов, где бы можна было поговорить на тематику ИТ?
[18:45]  * robin0800_ is away: Gone away for now
[18:56] <steph_> Salve
[18:56] <prefrontal> how do I get this compiz mouse effect? http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/Plugins/Showmouse
[18:56] <prefrontal> i installed all the compiz pkgs, its not there
[18:57] <steph_> I'm Italian... you??
[18:57] <error_> how to set public key for kde 4.2 ppa? I can't pdate.
[19:00] <scorpio> дарова
[19:02] <romullo> hello... the Amarok 2.1.1 packages are already in the ppa backports?
[19:22] <xavier__> hi
[19:23] <xavier__> what the best kde linux for an ati graphic card ,
[19:47] <carlos_> salut a tous ^^
[19:48] <carlos_> il y a des francais ici ??
[19:48] <tsimpson> !fr
[19:49] <carlos_> ok je voie ^^
[19:55] <faruk> hello everyone
[19:56] <faruk> is there a tool that i can slow down the spin  of the harddrive?
[19:57] <faruk> i think there isnt one or?
[19:59] <ubuntu> Kubuntu KDE 4 pisses all over Gnome.
[20:06] <error_> Hi.I have this massage when updating. how to set public key for kde 4.2 ppa? I can't pdate.     any help??
[20:06] <error_> up sorry
[20:07] <error_> moment...
[20:07] <error_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[20:07] <Pici> !ppagpg
[20:08] <error_> ok
[20:08] <error_> thx
[20:15] <error_> mamarok: Hi,can you help me whit this again please, I'w reinstalled kde?
[20:15] <error_> W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[20:15] <error_> mamarok: W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[20:26] <mirco> occhio!
[20:29] <dende> Hallo zusamm! Kann mir wer sagen wie ich auf Ubuntu herausfinde welche Grafikkarte ich in meinem Laptop habe?
[20:33] <neversfelde> dende: sudo lshw oder im kinfocenter
[20:33] <neversfelde> ups, this is the english channel sorry
[20:34] <neversfelde> dende: jump over to #kubuntu-de if you'd like to talk german
[20:39] <PhilippeP> Hi all, what's the story behind the 4 blocked updates (linux-header...) ??
[20:40] <super__rad> PhilippeP what are the 4 packages that are blocked?
[20:41] <PhilippeP> linux-header , restricted modules generic and image generic all in 2.6.28.11.15
[20:41] <PhilippeP> 2.6.28.11.42 are currently installed
[20:42] <super__rad> what are you using to update? (konsole, adept, packagekit)
[20:42] <PhilippeP> kpackagekit
[20:43] <super__rad> try opening a console and running "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" and see if it needs to install or remove extra packages. If it needs to install extra then go ahead, if it needs to remove anything and your unsure then ask first
[20:45] <PhilippeP> Ok it wants to upgrade 2.6.28.13 ... and not delete anything , so it must be a go ! :)
[20:50] <PhilippeP> going for a reboot , back in 3 minutes I hope :)
[20:50] <super__rad> haha ok
[20:52] <drurew> Im looking for "the" sitebuilder for our opensource system , anyone know ?
[20:53] <PhilippeP> super__rad: it worked , thanks a lot !
[20:53] <super__rad> no problem, glad it all worked
[20:55] <super__rad> drurew you looking for something like dreamweaver? or just a good text editor for writing html?
[20:56] <drurew> super_rad, perferably a gui application, im getting tired of html space fixing :)
[21:00] <super__rad> drurew, check out quanta
[21:00] <super__rad> never used it myself but heard a lot of good things about it
[21:00] <drurew> tx super_rad
[21:01] <firephoto> anyone else having issues with dbus-daemon using lots of cpu sometimes with 4.3 beta2 ?
[21:02]  * robin0800_ is back.
[21:10] <k4r70ng> i have a problem when i installed kubuntu, i come to the startscreen or something and it shows some icons but it seems like it stuck in some kind of loop. any idea what can be wrong?
[21:14] <k4r70ng> nobody?
[21:14] <super__rad> bit more information, what do you mean stuck in a loop?
[21:15] <k4r70ng> it loads some icons like a harddrive a toolset a globe and then the screen turns black and the loading repeats itself
[21:16] <super__rad> starts again from the beginning?
[21:17] <k4r70ng> yes the icons reloads
[21:17] <super__rad> no idea sorry
[21:17] <k4r70ng> ok will try reinstall it
[21:18] <yao_ziyuan> open a konsole, type: ls /usr/bin
[21:19] <yao_ziyuan> maximize the konsole window, and then minimize it
[21:19] <yao_ziyuan> and then restore it. do you experience slowness in restoring the window?
[21:20] <yao_ziyuan> better first maximize konsole and then type ls /usr/bin
[21:20] <yao_ziyuan> if i disable visual effects, it restores almost immediately.
[21:20] <yao_ziyuan> so the problem is my video card driver...
[21:21] <dende> thanks! GOT IT
[21:22] <yao_ziyuan> i suspect i'm devoiced since i bashed kubuntu.
[21:24] <kaosreign> ho un problema
[21:24] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: bad gfx drivers are fairly well known. nvidia is fairly broken with kde4 afair.
[21:25] <k4r70ng> do i have to use the 64bit version if iam on a amd athlon x2?
[21:25] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: i use ati/radeon
[21:25] <super__rad> no you don't have to
[21:26] <k4r70ng> ok than it cant be that problem
[21:26] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: me too but I still have to use VESA after upgrading to 9.04. slow as hell but working.
[21:26] <super__rad> which version of ubuntu are you using?
[21:27] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: and the sound went away. I hate upgrading...
[21:27] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: vesa? so you can't play opengl games?
[21:27] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: nope. but I'm not a gamer. i'm a worker... =)
[21:28] <kaosreign> i have problem with my wireless card Broadcom
[21:28] <k4r70ng> super__rad: kubuntu Desktop i386 version
[21:28] <k4r70ng> 9.04
[21:28] <super__rad> ah right, just checking you weren't using the new alpha
[21:28] <kaosreign> i have kubuntu Desktop i386 8.4
[21:28]  * yao_ziyuan realized OpenGL sounds like open girl
[21:29] <kaosreign> anyone can help me???
[21:29] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: not in my language...
[21:29] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: what's your lang
[21:29] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: .se
[21:30] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: you?
[21:31] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: .zh
[21:31] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: .cn
[21:31]  * yao_ziyuan expects westerners here to encircle him and ask if he knows 1989's beijing
[21:32] <k4r70ng> hmm will download and try if ubuntu works instead and then download the kde pack
[21:32] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: I'm trying to learn mandarin. Damn hard language... =)
[21:32] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: oral or oral+written?
[21:33] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: maybe i should use spoken. oral has other meanings.
[21:34] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: spoken. I'm doing well enough to fool ppl who don't know the language. They atleast thinks it "sounds" like mandarin.
[21:35] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: why don't you want to learn written as well?
[21:35] <yao_ziyuan> __-osh-__: also, let's go pm
[21:36] <__-osh-__> yao_ziyuan: perhaps later. first I'd like to learn to speak it. And I'm offline now. too late for me here.
[21:39] <k4r70ng> what file to delete if i dont want the dualboot?
[21:40] <k4r70ng> ive unintalled kubuntu but it still gives me option to use it
[22:00] <Walzmyn> I'm making my first use of the new updater - what does "4 blocked updates" mean?
[22:00] <swatto> Please can someone tell me what blocked updates are?
[22:01] <Walzmyn> swatto: what packages are blocked for you?
[22:01] <Unksi> the updates are on hold for some reason, either "apt-get upgrade" is used instead of "apt-get dist-upgrade", or the dependencies can not be resolved
[22:02] <Walzmyn> i'm running the 2.6.30 kernel, all my blocked updates are for the 2.6.28 kernel
[22:02] <Unksi> that probably causes that then
[22:02] <swatto> Walzmyn: thats the message im getting, linux-headers, linux-restricted-modules, linux-generic, linux-image-generic
[22:03] <Walzmyn> I've also got two updates that bug fixes that are for the older kernel
[22:03] <Walzmyn> I had to build my own kernel to get around a bug
[22:04] <Dragnslcr> k4r70ng- if you're comfortable editing text files, it's /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:06] <Dragnslcr> k4r70ng- otherwise there's the kgrubeditor package that provides a GUI program
[22:17] <Walzmyn> I'm trying to get previews of videos in dolphin, not having any success
[22:31] <swatto> The following packages have been kept back:
[22:31] <swatto>   linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic
[22:31] <swatto> 0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 4 not upgraded.
[22:31] <swatto> can someone tell me why that is please ^^
[22:33] <ign0ramus> swatto, usually because of dependencies... does "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" solve this?
[22:34] <ign0ramus> swatto, here's a good link (with helpful comments, too) http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[22:39] <swatto> ill have a look
[22:40] <swatto> ign0ramus: its just downloading now,  100+mb
[22:40] <ign0ramus> swatto, cool :)
[22:41] <DaskreeCH> darlek2009: hiya
[22:42] <swatto> ign0ramus: yep that solved it, thankyou :)
[22:43] <ign0ramus> swatto, np :)
[22:43] <qqruzo> aloha
[22:44] <max_> Hi, I'm having a time problem. Any program that looks to my computer for the time and format uses 24 hour time (but my clock is set to use 12hr time) Why arent these programs seeing the time in 12hr format?
[22:47] <DaskreeCH> hi darlek
[22:50] <darlek> hi, Daskree, new to irc
[22:51] <burn_> my sound works great on desktop [uses alsa] , but sound on firefox is not working [like when watching youtube i dont have sound at all] how to fix this?
[22:52] <Hxod> Maybe it will help: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1154678
[22:53] <Dragnslcr> ign0ramus- hm, I never thought of doing dist-upgrade for the blocked updates. It's weird, though, because this is the first time I've had to do that for kernel updates, and those always installed new packages
[22:54] <DaskreeCH> darlek: hi welcome :) if you have any questions please ask :)
[22:54] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, i was running a custom kernel for a while, and i ran into this all the time.  not sure if that was why but 'dist-upgrade' almost always did the trick ;)
[22:54] <burn_> Hxod: ot working
[22:55] <burn_> not*
[22:55] <darlek> I've been installing kubuntu 9.04 on several machines now, and would like to ask where to find help for dell all in one printer drivers
[22:56] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, it's odd, because that link you gave says that any update that requires new dependencies will be blocked, but that's how kernel updates have worked in Ubuntu for a while (new versions of "linux-image-generic" depend on different packages)
[22:56] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, well, it is a debian article, not sure if Canonical alters the behavior of apt-get (I don't think so...)
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> I wouldn't think so either
[22:58] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, i think in the case of kernel updates, the dependencies are automatically brought in, but in other cases with different apps and such, they may not be automatically found (?)
[22:58] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, i honestly don't know
[22:58] <staph777> hello all, has anyone run into kernel panic, drive io errors when using hdd passwords + resume from suspend to ram (s3)
[22:58] <Dragnslcr> Maybe, but 4 of the blocked updates were for a new kernel
[22:59] <staph777> i've been look everywhere but haven't seen too many hits about the topic
[23:00] <billydun> What are "Blocked Updates"? and how are they unblocked?
[23:00] <mib_a5c3dh0y> any messages in the logs?
[23:00] <ign0ramus> billydun, see here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[23:00] <billydun> Tks
[23:01] <ign0ramus> np
[23:01] <staph777> no
[23:01] <staph777> there can't be actually
[23:02] <staph777> i have a seagate fde which relies on bios ata command to ask for password..with windows s3 works fine, but linux can't write/read the hard drive after resume
[23:02] <staph777> never asks for password, option to bypass password on sleep does not change anything
[23:03] <staph777> when the computer wakes, it goes to kernel panic with io read errors since the drive is again encrypted
[23:03] <Serraphyn> Hi, I'm instaling Kubuntu 9.04 x86 version on an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT system with 2 40G hard drives, 1Gig of Ram and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 512M ram (video card).  My issue that I am continually having with multiple CDs and different version fo Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and even debian is that when i start the live CD install(Kubuntu/Ubuntu) it comes up with the Kubuntu splash screen with the blue bar and the moving blue bar for a few moments, then the screen goe
[23:06] <DaskreeCH> darlek: You are having problems?
[23:06] <darlek> just had a driver question
[23:06] <echonoob> hello
[23:06] <max_> Hi, I'm having a 'locale' problem. It's set to 24hr time, when I trun the 'date' command in the terminal it returns the time in 24hr formatting. How can I change this to display 12 hour formatting?
[23:06] <echonoob> can someone help me with a mouse driver problem
[23:07] <echonoob> have x61 thinkpad
[23:07] <Walzmyn> echonoob: just ask
[23:07] <echonoob> need to get the middle scroll mouse working
[23:07] <darlek> dell all in one 942 aka lexmark p6250 on the last machine I put kubuntu 9.04 on
[23:07] <Walzmyn> how can I get my wireless to connect without me having to type in the password everytime?
[23:08] <Walzmyn> echonoob: hang on, i'll grab that for ya
[23:08] <Serraphyn> Darlek, lexmark printers after like 42x I think don't work with linux as they require windrivers
[23:08] <echonoob> ah ok thanks
[23:08] <Serraphyn> Can anyone help with this? I'm instaling Kubuntu 9.04 x86 version on an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT system with 2 40G hard drives, 1Gig of Ram and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 512M ram (video card).  My issue that I am continually having with multiple CDs and different version fo Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and even debian is that when i start the live CD install(Kubuntu/Ubuntu) it comes up with the Kubuntu splash screen with the blue bar and the moving blue bar for a few momen
[23:09] <Walzmyn> echonoob: http://www.thinkwiki.org/wiki/How_to_configure_the_TrackPoint
[23:09] <darlek> that is what I have seen. hoped there was a solution.
[23:09] <echonoob> thank you
[23:09] <Serraphyn> Darlek, only solutions currently is avoid lexmark
[23:09] <echonoob> i'll try to see if i can follow it
[23:09] <Walzmyn> echonoob: it's easy, just make a file, copy paste into it
[23:09] <DaskreeCH> darlek: What works on it?
[23:10] <darlek> oh well. thanks for helping, Serraphyn
[23:10] <Walzmyn> DaskreeCH: HP printers work very well
[23:10] <DaskreeCH> It's dell
[23:10] <Serraphyn> Walzmyn, any idea on my question?
[23:10] <Walzmyn> DaskreeCH: oops, i miss read, nm
[23:10] <darlek> well, I read that the Samsung ML1000 driver would work, but no go
[23:10] <Walzmyn> Serraphyn:  you question didn't finish on my screen
[23:11] <DaskreeCH> darlek: It's a dell printer ?
[23:11] <DaskreeCH> !printer
[23:11] <darlek> yes, the 942. manual says equivalent to lexmark p6250
[23:12] <DaskreeCH> Ok :-)
[23:12] <darlek> thanks, ubottu, will research those links
[23:14] <echonoob> Walzmyn: i can't seem to copy it over from the desktop into the specified folder
[23:14] <Walzmyn> echonoob: folder?
[23:14] <echonoob> the wiki says to put it into the policy folder
[23:14] <billydun> I think a new kernel was installed with the update.  Gonna reboot and check my log in script.  Back later
[23:15] <Walzmyn> echonoob ok, do this. Hit alt+F2, type kdesudo kate /etc/hal/fdi/policy/mouse-wheel.fdi
[23:15] <ubuntu> hello i need help
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> So the short version is the Dell printer has an equivalent lexmark printer for which the normal way to get it working is to find the equivalent HP printer and install the driver for that?
[23:16] <echonoob> Could not open location 'file:///home/echo/kdesudo%20kate%20/etc/hal/fdi/policy/mouse-wheel.fdi'
[23:16] <ubuntu> i had kubuntu on laptop but i wanted to dual boot with xp
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> ubuntu: Ask
[23:16] <ubuntu> how can i configure GRUB?
[23:16]  * Walzmyn grumbles
[23:16] <ubuntu> only true command?
[23:16] <Serraphyn> Can anyone help with this? I'm instaling Kubuntu 9.04 x86 version on an Intel P4-2.8Ghz HT system with 2 40G hard drives, 1Gig of Ram and an Nvidia 6200 LE with 512M ram (video card).  My issue that I am continually having with multiple CDs and different version fo Ubuntu, Kubuntu, and even debian is that when i start the live CD install(Kubuntu/Ubuntu) it comes up with the Kubuntu splash screen with the blue bar and the moving blue bar for a few momen
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> !grub | ubuntu
[23:16] <darlek> how do I find the equivalent HP printer?
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> darlek: http://openprinting.org/show_printer.cgi?recnum=Lexmark-P6250
[23:16] <DaskreeCH> Doesn't seem to have one
[23:17] <Walzmyn> echonoob: ok, just do a kdesudo kate which will open kate as admin, then you can paste the text in and save it where you need to
[23:17] <Walzmyn> i hope
[23:17] <DaskreeCH> That's about the lowest rating a printer can get
[23:17] <Walzmyn> Serraphyn: read you posting, it
[23:17] <echonoob> Walzmyn: Error stating file '/home/echo/kdesudo kate': No such file or directory
[23:17] <Walzmyn> Serraphyn: it's not complete. just state the problem not your entire hardware list
[23:18] <echonoob> Walzmyn: it may explain if i say i have ubuntu and not kubuntu? if that helps?
[23:18] <Serraphyn> My issue that I am continually having with multiple CDs and different version fo Ubuntu, Kubuntu,and even debian is that when i start the live CD install(Kubuntu/Ubuntu) it comes up with the Kubuntusplash screen with the blue bar and the moving blue bar for a few moments, then the screen goes black andit just hangs.  Has anyone seen this issue or have any ideas where to start? the machine will let windows install so I'm not sure what the problem is.
[23:18] <Walzmyn> echonoob:  oh yeah, that explains a lot! you probably dont' have kate installed!
[23:18] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: I'm guessing that you haven't the command kdesudo in your home directory ?
[23:18] <Walzmyn> echonoob: what's your text editor called?
[23:19] <echonoob> no i just installed ubuntu 9.04 like 30 mins ago
[23:19] <echonoob> text editor
[23:19] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: you need gksudo gedit
[23:19] <darlek> thanks, daskree, have seen the paperweight rating too
[23:19] <Walzmyn> thanks DaskreeCH, i know nothing about gnome
[23:19] <Walzmyn> echonoob: not that we mind the company, but what are you doing in the kubuntu channel?
[23:20] <echonoob> sorry i wasn't getting much help from ubuntu, was hoping better luck here
[23:20] <DaskreeCH> Walzmyn: I was about to say It's hard getting help in #ubuntu
[23:21] <Walzmyn> ah
[23:21] <echonoob> it is, not that they aren't helpful.... just there's alot of questions
[23:21]  * Walzmyn thinks that fits with his opinion of gnome :)
[23:21] <DaskreeCH> I know 3 folks who switched to Kubuntu just cause they liked #kubuntu more than #ubuntu
[23:21] <echonoob> DaskreeCH: so i have gedit open
[23:21] <Walzmyn> echonoob: how ya like your thinkpad?
[23:21] <echonoob> i love it
[23:21] <burn_> how to know is my /dev/shm enabled [for 3D games]?
[23:21] <echonoob> best laptop i've ever had
[23:22] <Walzmyn> echonoob: just copy / paste those lines from the wiki, then save it as the file it tells you to
[23:22] <HiV> hi
[23:22] <DaskreeCH> !hi |hiv
[23:22] <Walzmyn> echonoob: i've got a T61 and I can't imagine using another brand
[23:22] <echonoob> me neighter
[23:23] <darlek> thank you all for the help, goodbye
[23:23] <echonoob> my next one will be just an upgrade, with widescreen
[23:23] <DaskreeCH> darlek: sorry about the outcome
[23:23] <Serraphyn> How can I explain this any better?
[23:23] <darlek> np, Daskree, thanks
[23:24] <echonoob> Walzmyn: Error while moving "mouse-wheel.fdi".
[23:24]  * Serraphyn thinks really small words...
[23:24] <echonoob> i can't copy it over
[23:24] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, have you tried the Alternate Install CD? Sounds like a graphics issue.
[23:24] <Serraphyn> Me boot Kubuntu 9.04, it make pretty spalsh screen. Screen go black soon, computer do nothing. Help please?
[23:24] <Walzmyn> echonoob: why are you trying to move it? just save it as the file
[23:25] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, I've installed debian 5.0 command line and it still on reboot locks up with some wierd errors
[23:25] <echonoob> i have, but i saved it in my folder
[23:25] <echonoob> and not the folder i'm suppose to save it in
[23:25] <Walzmyn> echonoob: if you're saving it to the desktop then trying to move it, you're being blocked because you're not admin
[23:25] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, have you read the errors? sometimes they have helpful info
[23:25] <echonoob> but i wasn't given the option
[23:26] <echonoob> there is a lock icon above the file
[23:26] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: sudo move it
[23:26] <echonoob> i must apologize again guys, i know very little about linux
[23:26] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: thats why we are here :-)
[23:26] <Walzmyn> echonoob: that was why we opened the editor as root, that causes less headaches than trying to open the file manger
[23:27] <aluzza> hi
[23:27] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, I'm starting the resinstall of debain to see if I can find the errors
[23:27] <Walzmyn> echonoob: so did I 5 years ago ( and some would say last month)
[23:27] <DaskreeCH> Walzmyn: I said that 1 hour ago!
[23:27] <DaskreeCH> :-D
[23:27] <echonoob> ok so lets start from the beginning... i did the gedit thing
[23:27] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: Want  gui way to do it?
[23:27] <echonoob> paste it
[23:27] <Walzmyn> DaskreeCH: about me?  :)
[23:28] <echonoob> saved echo folder
[23:28] <echonoob> echo = my user name
[23:28] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: Gui ways are more dangerous :)
[23:28] <DaskreeCH> Walzmyn: Sure why not?
[23:28] <echonoob> and can't move it anywhere afterwards
[23:28] <billyd> Is there a KNR (Kubuntu Netbook Remix) in the works or is there a way to convert UNR?
[23:28] <Walzmyn> DaskreeCH: just asking, i agree :)
[23:28] <DaskreeCH> billyd: Yes..ish
[23:28] <burn_> how to know is my /dev/shm enabled [for 3D games]?
[23:29] <Walzmyn> echonoob: ok, sudo gedit, then when you save it, change the place it's saved to, don't save it in your /home save it ...
[23:29] <Walzmyn> echonoob: here: /etc/hal/fdi/policy/
[23:29] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: if you want to do it in a console then type sudo mv /path/to/directory /path/to/where/it's/going
[23:29] <DaskreeCH> Or that :)
[23:29] <Walzmyn> DaskreeCH: if he's new here, lets not hit him with CLI yet, we'll do that next week
[23:30] <Hydrant> has anyone had luck tethering their 3.0 iphone with kubuntu via USB ?
[23:30] <aluzza> sorry guys
[23:30] <DaskreeCH> I wasn't following :) I just knew that he wanted to move a file
[23:30] <aluzza> do u know some other channel where to talk about anything else?
[23:30] <billyd> DaskreeCH - I got a ASUS 901 with UNR on a stick and EasyPeasy in ISO stage.  I hate the idea of getting used to Gnome - so much new stuff to learn
[23:30] <echonoob> success!!!!
[23:30] <aluzza> i need to practice my english :)
[23:30] <Walzmyn> echonoob: good deal
[23:30] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: one nice thing about nearly all Linux editors is that when you save a file it makes a backup of the old version so you can go back if somethign went wrong :)
[23:31] <ign0ramus> !ot | aluzza
[23:31] <Walzmyn> echonoob: now, if you'll scroll down there's another one that'll make it work after a suspend /resume
[23:31] <DaskreeCH> So no need to fear saving something where it should be saveed
[23:31] <aluzza> oh, ok
[23:31] <ign0ramus> aluzza, have fun :)
[23:31] <aluzza> thanks
[23:31] <echonoob> After this reboot, or restart the hal service and Xor
[23:31] <echonoob> ok.... what is the hal service ?
[23:31] <DaskreeCH> !hal
[23:32] <echonoob> and how would i restart it?
[23:32] <Walzmyn> echonoob: hardware abstraction layer
[23:32] <aluzza> well, but i need a help about KDE
[23:32] <aluzza> anybody here use KDE?
[23:32] <ign0ramus> aluzza, well then this is a good place
[23:32] <aluzza> jaunty jakalope
[23:32] <DaskreeCH> aluzza: Ask KDE questions here and english questions in #kubuntu-offtopic
[23:32] <ign0ramus> aluzza, we all do (mostly, anyway)
[23:32] <aluzza> ok
[23:32] <Walzmyn> echonoob: yeah, you'd just need to reboot, but look at fixing that suspend / resume thing before you do
[23:32] <aluzza> I have a problem I can't resolve
[23:33] <echonoob> ok
[23:33] <burn_> how to know is my /dev/shm enabled [for 3D games]?
[23:33] <Walzmyn> echonoob: same process, different target
[23:33] <aluzza> at the starting of the system, my partitions aren't mounted
[23:33] <echonoob> i see ok i will do that now before i restart
[23:33] <real_ate> omg! i have undercovered a conspiracy ! what is the story with krecordmydesktop in jaunty? it seems like the binary package was there but is not anymore!
[23:33] <echonoob> brb
[23:33] <ign0ramus> aluzza, ext or ntfs partitions?
[23:33] <aluzza> I need somethig to let them mount automatically at the start
[23:33] <aluzza> ntfs
[23:34] <ign0ramus> !ntfs-3g | aluzza
[23:34] <Walzmyn> How can I get my wireless to connect at startup without having to type in the password everytime?
[23:34] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: Reinstall it?
[23:34] <ign0ramus> aluzza, what is the name of the windows partitions? (eg, /dev/sda2)
[23:34] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: thats the point... its not in the repos!
[23:34] <aluzza> the problem is that everytime I have to access to the partitions, then they mount themselves automatically
[23:35] <Walzmyn> aluzza: NTFS reading works pretty well, but writing is not perfect, read up on it before relying on it
[23:35] <DaskreeCH> !info recordmydesktop
[23:35] <aluzza> sda5 i think
[23:35] <DaskreeCH> Seems to be there
[23:35] <ign0ramus> aluzza, well, we can set them to mount automatically on startup for read/write
[23:35] <ign0ramus> aluzza, you have to be sure.. try "sudo fdisk -l"
[23:35] <aluzza> just a moment
[23:36] <aluzza> ok sorry, the two partitions are FAT 32
[23:36] <aluzza> I was sure they were NTFs..
[23:36] <aluzza> their name are sa
[23:36] <aluzza> da
[23:36] <aluzza> oos sorry,
[23:36] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?keywords=krecordmydesktop
[23:36] <aluzza> sda1 and sda5
[23:37] <real_ate> its not there on this one!
[23:37] <echonoob> Walzmyn: is there a way to raise sensitivity of the trackpoint?
[23:37] <DaskreeCH> oh wait
[23:37] <DaskreeCH> !info krecordmydesktop
[23:37] <DaskreeCH> oh yeah it doesn't :-)
[23:37] <olskolirc> that program sux anyway
[23:37] <DaskreeCH> !info krecordmydesktop hardy
[23:37] <aluzza> ign0ramus: have u read?
[23:38] <real_ate> :(
[23:38] <DaskreeCH> !info krecordmydesktop intrepid
[23:38] <ign0ramus> aluzza, yes. i'm hoping ntfs-3g works with FAT32 (i think it does).
[23:38] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, I got a whole bunch of things ont his monitor what would be best for me to tell you? lik the last line is [   8.220697] -- [ end trace 685995c43985d585 ]---
[23:38] <olskolirc> !info kdocker
[23:38] <real_ate> also... to make matters worse the kwin effect that records the desktop is not installed!
[23:38] <ign0ramus> aluzza, do: "sudo apt-get install ntfs-3g"
[23:38] <aluzza> ok
[23:38] <real_ate> i don't know how to get it
[23:38] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: use that one then
[23:38] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: will it be ok?
[23:38] <aluzza> done
[23:39] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, hang on
[23:39] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: I couldn't tell you I've never used either
[23:39] <Serraphyn> k
[23:39] <real_ate> !info recordmydesktop
[23:39] <echonoob> brb.... will reboot now
[23:39] <ign0ramus> aluzza, ok, now we're going to edit your fstab... do "kdesudo kate /etc/fstab"
[23:39] <aluzza> I see it had already installed!
[23:39] <real_ate> !info recordmydesktop intrepid
[23:39] <ign0ramus> aluzza, that's fine
[23:39] <DaskreeCH> !info kdeplasma-addons
[23:39] <real_ate> hmm...
[23:39] <ign0ramus> aluzza, please pastebin your /etc/fstab once you've opened it.
[23:39] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: try that package
[23:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> What are blocked updates?
[23:40] <aluzza> ok
[23:40] <aluzza> # /etc/fstab: static file system information.
[23:40] <aluzza> #
[23:40] <aluzza> # Use 'vol_id --uuid' to print the universally unique identifier for a
[23:40] <aluzza> # device; this may be used with UUID= as a more robust way to name devices
[23:40] <aluzza> # that works even if disks are added and removed. See fstab(5).
[23:40] <FloodBotK2> aluzza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:40] <aluzza> #
[23:40] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: i was just checking if the backend was the same version
[23:41] <ign0ramus> aluzza, like FloodBotK2 said, copy the info into http://paste.ubuntu.com and then give me the url
[23:41] <Dragnslcr> CoJaBo-Aztec- kernel packages?
[23:41] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: ah good call
[23:41] <aluzza> ok
[23:41] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dragnslcr: Yes
[23:42] <ign0ramus> Dragnslcr, this question again? :)
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> CoJaBo-Aztec- I had the same issue. No idea why though
[23:42] <aluzza> http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/198810/
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> ign0ramus- heh, seems so
[23:42] <ign0ramus> aluzza, ok good.  now we make a mountpoint to mount the partition
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> CoJaBo-Aztec- if you open up Konsole and do "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" it'll get the kernel updates
[23:43] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I get it every few weeks. Never could figure out what it means or how to fix it from the GUI.
[23:43] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: i can see why it wasn't included
[23:43] <echonoob> success!!! scrolling works
[23:43] <aluzza> ign0ramus, i gotta go now, it's just a bit late
[23:43] <real_ate> its not working with the kwin
[23:43] <aluzza> will I find u tomorrow?
[23:43] <ign0ramus> aluzza, ok, bad time to ask an involved question
[23:43] <ign0ramus> aluzza, maybe :)
[23:43] <Dragnslcr> CoJaBo-Aztec- I'm not sure how to fix it with KPackageKit either. This was the first time I've gotten it with Ubuntu. Kernel updates never used to have this problem for me
[23:43] <aluzza> I know, I'ms sorry, really
[23:44] <aluzza> my sister is gonna kill me, that's why i have to go :)
[23:44] <ign0ramus> aluzza, i am usually on weekdays around the same times.
[23:44] <echonoob> thanks Walzmyn
[23:44] <ign0ramus> aluzza, don't get killed! :)
[23:44] <aluzza> ahahah
[23:44] <aluzza> i hope
[23:44] <real_ate> does anyone know why the kwin effect to record your desktop is not installed by default on my machine?
[23:44] <real_ate> :P
[23:44] <aluzza> well i'll be back and i'll also try to explain as better as i can my problem next time
[23:45] <Walzmyn> echonoob: hey, no problem
[23:45] <real_ate> i should really have said... does anyone have an idea
[23:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dragnslcr: I never had anywhere near this much trouble with Adept either, anyone know why the switch to the horribly broken KPackageKit?
[23:45] <echonoob> Walzmyn: do you know how to raise the sensitivity?
[23:45] <aluzza> because i've already made a mountpoint!
[23:45] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: Space on the CD same reason it doesn't ship with 12 wallpapers
[23:45] <Walzmyn> echonoob: sensitivyity for what?
[23:45] <aluzza> well guys, gotta go
[23:45] <echonoob> for the mouse pt
[23:45] <aluzza> nice night!
[23:45] <DaskreeCH> !info kdewallpapers
[23:45] <aluzza> cya
[23:45] <aluzza> bey
[23:45] <aluzza> bye
[23:45] <FloodBotK2> aluzza: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:46] <DaskreeCH> bye
[23:46] <aluzza> lol
[23:46] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: i installed it by doing aptget install kubuntu-desktop
[23:46] <Walzmyn> echonoob: ah, no, never been a problem, but there's a secion on that wiki page about it.
[23:46] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: Yeah I need to figure out if that does add in more stuff
[23:46] <echonoob> ok thanks
[23:46] <Walzmyn> echonoob: /secion /section
[23:46] <real_ate> .... and is there any way to install the effect from here?
[23:46] <echonoob> i guess the hard part was getting someone to point me in some direction
[23:46] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: in any case check if you have kdeplasma-addons
[23:47] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: the strange thing is that all the other effects are there... just not the recorking one
[23:47] <echonoob> thanks, laters!
[23:47] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: yep... its there
[23:48] <DaskreeCH> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/record-plasmoid?content=97428
[23:48] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, I think you where right that its a video issue, cause what looks like is happening is that the onboard video card does not disable in bios, nor does is stop working when you put an AGP card in.  and I think that is causing the issue
[23:48] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, huzzah! :)
[23:49] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, do you have regular integrated to try?
[23:49] <Guest45180> Ladies and gentlemen I have managed an install of 9.04, but I default to console login and I have to do startx to get kde up and running.  I have an Nvidia video card.  I have tried activating the drive from within kde but that does not seem to work and kde is working very slowly.  Any suggestions?
[23:49] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, I can but its gonna be so slow I think...
[23:50] <Dragnslcr> CoJaBo-Aztec- well, if you've ever seen the KDE4 version of Adept, you'd know how horrible it is
[23:50] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: not really what i'm looking for... anything that is using the recordmydesktop backend is not going to work on kwin
[23:50] <ign0ramus> Serraphyn, slow is better than not working :)  And then you'll know for sure!
[23:50] <Hydrant> there are multiple choices for what a device I plugged in can do apparently, according to dmesg: usb 1-8: configuration #1 chosen from 4 choices .... is there a way I can choose one particular config ?
[23:51] <DaskreeCH> real_ate: Jump into #kwin and see what they recommend then
[23:51] <real_ate> oh... didn't know it existed ;)
[23:51] <real_ate> DaskreeCH: thanks for all your help ;)
[23:52] <Serraphyn> ign0ramus, well it booted
[23:53] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Dragnslcr: Ive used Adept from KDE 3 with KDE4 on Hardy, and it works fine (and I am still using it due to Intel graphics support being broken in Jaunty)... Why does it seem like the software is only getting worse? o_O
[23:54] <compilerwriter> How does one switch to an nvidia driver from console I can't seem to get it to work from within kde in Jaunty
[23:54] <echonoob> what's a good usenet software for linux?
[23:54] <Serraphyn> compilerwriter, have you tried d/l the nividia driver from nividia with an installer that you run from Command Line Interface?
[23:55] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: Lots of transistion points since hardy
[23:55] <echonoob> i use to use grabit
[23:55] <DaskreeCH> !info knode
[23:55] <DaskreeCH> echonoob: ^^^
[23:55] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: Any idea when it will be stable again? Or ready for desktop use even?
[23:56] <echonoob> DaskreeCH: yes!
[23:56] <compilerwriter> Serraphyn no I have only thus far tried the hardware program in KDE it suggests version 96, but when I click on activate it doesn't want to activate.
[23:56] <Serraphyn> compilerwriter, might be a good iea to just d/l the version from nvidia, its in the legacy driver section
[23:57] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: Different for each person. What are the issues yo are having ?