[00:15] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: been reading it! looks good
[01:13] <billybigrigger> anyone here use deluge alot?
[01:13] <billybigrigger> like daily?
[01:13] <billybigrigger> seems with yesterdays updates deluge has pooped the bed on me
[01:13] <billybigrigger> everytime i open a torrent, and try to change where the files are saved it instantly crashes
[01:38] <darthanubis> billybigrigger, I gave up on deluge. Transmission is working it's butt off
[01:39] <racecar56> hihi
[01:45]  * BUGabundo $ sudo shutdown -t now ; echo 1 lamb, 2 lamb, 3 lamb 4rrrr lammbbbb.....
[01:58] <billybigrigger> darthanubis::: uggh i hate trans
[02:05] <legodude> anyone else having really slow graphics performance in the latest karmic?
[02:06] <legodude> like unusably slow?
[02:06] <yoasif_> legodude, i've seen some slowdowns, don't really know how to triage it
[02:06] <yoasif_> nah not unusably slow here
[02:06] <legodude> this is maybe 100x slower than jaunty
[02:06] <legodude> everything in the GUI pretty much
[02:07] <legodude> switching windows will take secnds
[02:07] <legodude> seconds
[02:07] <legodude> and resuming is much slower
[02:09] <legodude> time to poke around launchpad
[02:42] <syn-ack> hrm
[04:23] <yofel> nice... compiz crashed...
[04:25] <yofel> and apport doesn't seem to care :(
[04:47] <DanaG> Hmm, earlier today, I ran into a nouveau-kms kernel... where'd it come from, and where'd it go off to?
[04:48] <DanaG> I think it was from the sarvatt PPA.
[04:50] <DanaG> But it's not anywhere now.
[04:50] <DanaG> And I didn't change my sources.list.
[04:54] <DanaG> ah, found it... it got into the radeon kms PPA by accident earlier, when it's supposed to be in its own PPA.
[05:12] <DanaG> hmm, nouveau KMS is giving me a null pointer dereference.
[05:12] <DanaG> http://pastebin.com/f13b90ed
[05:51] <DanaG> hmmm, I wonder why the nouveau KMS PPA doesn't work.
[05:54] <billybigrigger> am i supposed to be using the nouvea driver?
[05:55] <billybigrigger> or nvidia driver?
[05:55] <billybigrigger> and what is the difference?
[05:55] <billybigrigger> DanaG::: ?
[05:57] <DanaG> ugh, this sound card is being all slow and crappy -- speeding up and slowing down.
[05:57] <DanaG> or rather, it's a combination of a crappy CPU with a 48KHz-only sound card.
[05:59] <DanaG> It's actually speeding up and slowing down.
[09:09] <DrS> why i can't install .deb files ? :    http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7131/bugevw.png
[09:10] <DrS> i'am using  Karmic koala
[09:10] <tgpraveen> kklimonda: still up for using video chat over xmpp
[09:11] <tgpraveen> though I don't have a webcam only mic
[10:20] <virtuald> shouldn't apport be enabled automatically when upgrading with update-manager -d?
[11:09] <mvo> virtuald: yes it should, fixed in bzr - thanks
[11:51] <kane77> hi, I installed alpha 2 in virtualbox to test drive it, but it seems that the installation did not add me to sudoers file.. what do I do now?
[12:23] <syn-ack> Hey guys, anyone know what the support status is with the nvidia 178 driver and X is so far?
[12:24] <syn-ack> I know its blob and yadda yadda but I was hoping someone may have had an insight
[12:24] <coz_> syn-ack,   which video card?
[12:25] <syn-ack> Riva
[12:25] <syn-ack> apparently 178 and Xorg 1.6 are no workie but hey if I can futz something together so be it
[12:26] <syn-ack> Now that Im running "newer than 1.6" yeah
[12:27] <syn-ack> coz_: Still getting the whole "nvidia.ko module not found" bs
[12:28] <coz_> syn-ack,  I believe  it has to do with nvidia it self as well... I know that my favorite driver was the 169.12 and it is no longer installable
[12:28] <coz_> syn-ack, no kernel module avaiable
[12:29] <syn-ack> Yeah and Ive had no luck with that nv replacement thingie either.
[12:29] <syn-ack> yay.
[12:29] <coz_> syn-ack,   have you tried any of the newer drivers?
[12:30] <coz_> syn-ack,   lspci | grep -i vga
[12:30] <syn-ack> heh, this is a karmic box, I'd hope that thats all there is on this thing. :P
[12:30] <syn-ack> OH
[12:30] <syn-ack> yeah sorry....
[12:30] <syn-ack> yeah, they dont work so well
[12:30] <syn-ack> 01:00.0 VGA compatible controller: nVidia Corporation NV6 [Vanta/Vanta LT] (rev 15)
[12:32] <coz_> mm that card requires a legacy drive correct?
[12:32] <syn-ack> aye
[12:32] <syn-ack> like I said the 178xxx driver
[12:33] <coz_> syn-ack,  yeah... I dont know for sure ... hopefully one of the glx legacy drivers will be available
[12:33] <coz_> syn-ack,  is this a replaceable card  or on the motherboard?
[12:33] <syn-ack> its an AGP card.
[12:34] <coz_> oh  well you could go to ebay and look for nvidia agp cards and get anything from the 6xxx series up to 7xxx series
[12:34] <coz_> syn-ack,  the 6xxx series should be cheap
[12:34] <syn-ack> Ive thought about getting something else as well but I really dont know if I want to actually do that since this is a throwaway machine for all intents and purposes
[12:34] <coz_> oh ok
[12:35] <coz_> syn-ack,  even if you get another machine this one could stand in as a back up...or server or something useful
[12:35] <coz_> syn-ack,  $30 bucks or so should bet a 6xxx  card
[12:35] <syn-ack> If I could find 1GBx3 PC133 RAM I would drop a new card in in a heartbeat
[12:35] <coz_> should get not bet
[12:35] <coz_> syn-ack,  did you check ebay?
[12:36] <syn-ack> nah, scoured pricewatch and the usual
[12:36] <coz_> syn-ack,  ebay might be a good place for these things
[12:37] <coz_> just make sure any item has a guarantee no DOA
[12:37] <coz_> and returnable
[12:37] <coz_> syn-ack,  the problem is going to be that soon even the 6xxx series cards are going to be unsupported by nvidia
[12:38] <syn-ack> yeah... wish matrox still had decent shit
[12:40] <coz_> syn-ack, you could think about ati  since they do have opensource drivers for it  because the open source nouveau drives for nvidia still do not have 3d acceleration
[12:40] <syn-ack> yeah...
[12:41] <syn-ack> How is the ATI 3d opensource so far?
[12:41] <coz_> syn-ack,  I dont use ati but I hear it is fine for the most part  although only certain cards can use the opensource driver let me get that info for you hold on
[12:42] <coz_> syn-ack,   From the 7000 to the X1950, you can use the open source "radeon" driver. All cards newer than the X1950 must use the proprietary "fglrx" driver.
[12:43] <syn-ack> yeah, thats what I figured... still no completely open spec
[12:43] <coz_> syn-ack,  I cant speak confidently about ati stuff at all I dont use them  but  again it is an alternative
[12:51] <zniavre__> 178 nvidia driver ? where can i find it please?
[12:51] <zniavre__> i thought 173 were the last one for "legacy" card
[13:50] <mib_o6egw3k8> Help bring Google Gears to Opera, star this issue http://code.google.com/p/gears/issues/detail?id=15&q=opera&colspec=Version%20Milestone%20Owner%20ID%20Summary%20Component
[13:59] <BluesKaj> Hey folks
[14:00]  * Hobbsee waves
[14:27] <BUGabundo> boas tardes
[14:53] <k3ninho> I'm testing the xorg crack pushers Radeon KMS tools and the screen stays blank -- Xorg.0.log says that the LVDS of my laptop isn't recognised and no screens found.  Can I get help diagnosing/fixing?
[15:32] <k3ninho> will try mailing lists. --bye
[16:01] <sarmisak> hi all
[16:51] <Creative1412> Hi guys can i upgrade 9.04 to 9.10
[16:51] <hggdh> Creative1412, yes you can. Be aware that unexpected things may happen
[16:52] <Creative1412> never mind just gimme the how to :)
[16:52] <hggdh> Creative1412, see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview
[16:52] <Creative1412> thanks :)
[16:53] <BUGabundo> Creative1412: hi
[16:53] <BUGabundo> the proper way to upgrade is using Update Manager
[16:53] <BUGabundo> so you just start it with : $ update-manager -d
[16:54] <BUGabundo> please go to Software Sources and comment out any 3rd party PPAs or repos.
[16:54] <Creative1412> it woks :)
[16:54] <Creative1412> work*s
[16:54] <BUGabundo> Creative1412: what does?
[16:54] <Creative1412> ok
[16:54] <Creative1412> i am downloading the upgrade :
[16:55] <BUGabundo> mais um cristo... n leu as release notes!
[16:56] <BUGabundo> I bet he will come back screaming touchpad doesn't work :\
[16:56] <hggdh> :-)
[17:00] <BluesKaj> BUGabundo, I can't stand the touchpad thing. I use a mouse even with our laptop :)
[17:00] <BUGabundo> I use it a lot . so no tapping is a drag
[17:01] <joaopinto> I hate touchpads
[17:04] <BUGabundo> joaopinto: you just use Desktops. you don't count
[17:05] <joaopinto> BUGabundo, nope, thinkpad all the way
[17:51] <ripps> I want to upgrade to Karmic and assit with testing, but I don't want to just upgrade, I want to reformat and install with ext4, but I need backup all my personal data. Trying to get enough room for backup on my external harddrive by deleting a bunch of crap.
[17:51] <ripps> *to much anime and porn
[18:02] <BUGabundo> !language | ripps:
[18:02] <BUGabundo> ripps: please avoid _some_ of those words, ok?
[18:02] <billybigrigger> BUGabundo::: is there a certain way i should be upgrading each morning?
[18:03] <billybigrigger> sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade is fine right?
[18:03] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: ~~~
[18:03] <BUGabundo> ahhh you mean getting updates
[18:03] <hggdh> billybigrigger, dist-upgrade is better
[18:03] <BUGabundo> I recommend using Update-Manager
[18:03] <billybigrigger> ~~~ ? whats that :)
[18:03] <BUGabundo> so it also aplies Policie changes
[18:03] <billybigrigger> update-manager never pops up for me
[18:03] <BUGabundo> if that fails, use aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:04] <BUGabundo> billybigrigger: that's a bug ^W feature of Jaunty
[18:04] <BUGabundo> bug 332945
[18:04] <BUGabundo> I can't believe its still active!
[18:04] <BUGabundo> I have 141 unread emails from that bug alone
[18:04] <billybigrigger> hah
[18:05] <BUGabundo> not funny. believe me
[18:05] <BUGabundo> I know a few users how left Ubuntu after "that" _decision_
[18:06] <billybigrigger> what decision? to make update-manager pop up?
[18:06] <billybigrigger> or not pop up?
[18:07] <BUGabundo> to pop up, and remove the tray icon
[18:07] <BUGabundo> now that we talk on It
[18:07] <BUGabundo> let me update my system, again
[18:11] <tgpraveen> hi I added https://launchpad.net/~ken-vandine/+archive/ppa
[18:11] <tgpraveen> repos it has empathy 2.27.3
[18:11] <tgpraveen> and I have.27.2
[18:12] <tgpraveen> so when I upgrade I still get I have latest version
[18:12] <tgpraveen> I think it is bcoz there are two versions in the ppa
[18:12] <tgpraveen>          empathy - 2.27.3-0ubuntu1
[18:12] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: hi
[18:12] <tgpraveen> and          empathy - 2.27.2-2~ppa1
[18:12] <BUGabundo> please pastebin $apt-cache policy empathy
[18:12] <tgpraveen> so how do I get the .3 version?
[18:13] <tgpraveen> empathy:
[18:13] <tgpraveen>   Installed: 2.27.2-1ubuntu1~ppa9.04+1
[18:13] <tgpraveen>   Candidate: 2.27.2-1ubuntu1~ppa9.04+1
[18:13] <tgpraveen>   Version table:
[18:13] <tgpraveen>  *** 2.27.2-1ubuntu1~ppa9.04+1 0
[18:13] <tgpraveen>         500 http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty/main Packages
[18:13] <tgpraveen>         100 /var/lib/dpkg/status
[18:13] <tgpraveen>      2.26.1-1ubuntu1 0
[18:13] <tgpraveen>         500 http://archive.ubuntu.com jaunty/universe Packages
[18:13] <BUGabundo> !paste | tgpraveen
[18:13] <BUGabundo> read man!!!!
[18:13] <tgpraveen> sorry
[18:14] <BUGabundo> np
[18:14] <BUGabundo> please DON'T do it again ok ?
[18:14] <tgpraveen> ok
[18:14] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: $ sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude safe-upgrade
[18:14] <BUGabundo> pastebin any errors or warnings. thanks
[18:15] <BUGabundo> Need to get 107MB of archives. After unpacking 16.3MB will be freed.
[18:15] <BUGabundo> damn
[18:15] <tgpraveen> well, I am jaunty still, #ubuntu was full so I thought maybe I could some help here please help (I know it's a little bit cheating ;-) )
[18:16] <BUGabundo> mutt getting upgraded? this I have to see
[18:16] <BUGabundo> yeah it OT, actually
[18:16] <tgpraveen> so I shouldn't do that safe-upgrade
[18:16] <BUGabundo> do it
[18:16] <BUGabundo> its SAFE
[18:17] <BUGabundo> are you using the jaunty repo or karmic, from the PPA?
[18:17] <tgpraveen> I was using the jaunty
[18:17] <BUGabundo> oh jaunty
[18:17] <tgpraveen> buit now I see the prob
[18:17] <BUGabundo> just checked your paste
[18:17] <tgpraveen> the .3 ver is for karmic series only
[18:17] <BUGabundo> yeah that could be it
[18:17] <tgpraveen> damn I thoought it was for jaunty also
[18:17] <tgpraveen> ok
[18:17] <tgpraveen> thanks
[18:18] <BUGabundo> np
[18:18] <tgpraveen> anyways. last time I upgraded to jaunty at alpha 4 or so
[18:18] <BUGabundo> maybe it will be
[18:18] <tgpraveen> this I might do it sooner it seems
[18:18] <BUGabundo> its just building
[18:18] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: feel free to join us
[18:18] <BUGabundo> its quite nice, actually
[18:19] <tgpraveen> could you tell me any changes from jaunty currently in karmic except for the background cahnges (grub,ext4,etc
[18:23] <BUGabundo> tgpraveen: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview
[18:45]  * robin0800_ is away: Gone away for now
[19:00] <BUGabundo> in case you missed it: Ubuntu Global Jam NOW on #ubuntu-meeting
[19:43] <LordKow> now i remember why thunderbird > evolution
[19:43] <BUGabundo> LordKow: eheh
[19:43] <BUGabundo> why?
[19:43] <LordKow> BUGabundo: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/evolution/+bug/381164
[19:44] <LordKow> i guess i'll give evolution the benefit of the doubt and blame sqlit
[19:44] <LordKow> *sqlite
[19:45] <hexa-> hello
[19:45] <hexa-> did anybody notice gtk applications crashing?
[19:45] <LordKow> i just had a gtk application crash but i dont think it has anything to do with gtk.
[19:45] <BUGabundo> hexa-: not here
[19:46] <hexa-> well i have eclipse crashing with a libgtk error
[19:46] <hexa-> nautilus is crashing on some folders
[19:46] <hexa-> and tragtor won't even open giving a libgtk error
[19:46] <hexa-> having a file open/save/whatever dialog navigating to the same folders as in nautilus makes the whole program crash
[19:47] <joejc> what r the best new features?
[19:47] <hexa-> joejc: depends.
[19:47] <joejc> on?
[19:47] <BUGabundo> hexa-: fully updated?
[19:47] <hexa-> see the blogs, or the ubuntu planet
[19:47] <hexa-> BUGabundo: yes.
[19:47] <BUGabundo> hey joejc
[19:48] <joejc> hi
[19:48] <BUGabundo> hexa-: are you sure? what mirror?
[19:48] <hexa-> de.archive.*
[19:48] <BUGabundo> joejc: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview
[19:48] <hexa-> is there a more current one?
[19:48] <BUGabundo> hexa-: can you change to main and try again?
[19:48] <hexa-> minus de.?
[19:49] <hexa-> okay
[19:49] <joejc> boot time faster?
[19:49] <hexa-> unrelated updates
[19:49] <hexa-> compiz, mplayer, update-manager...
[19:51] <BUGabundo> hexa-: can't reproduce
[19:51] <BUGabundo> but someone was here 2 days with some probs
[19:52] <hexa-> nvm that
[19:52] <hexa-> i'm trying and searching launchpad
[19:52] <BUGabundo> ok
[19:52] <BUGabundo> hexa-: let me know about it too
[19:52] <hexa-> i will
[19:55] <BUGabundo> thanks
[20:27] <joejc> why does ubuntu +2 go here?
[20:27] <BUGabundo> joejc: sorry?
[20:28] <joejc>  if u join #ubuntu+2 it goes here
[20:28] <BUGabundo> eheeh
[20:28] <hexa-> well
[20:28] <hexa-> because there is no +2 yet announced
[20:28] <BUGabundo> joejc: cause it's the devel version ?
[20:28] <hexa-> there is no newer than +1
[20:29] <joejc> why is there no channel for the people that are 6months ahead of the dev version?
[20:29] <hexa-> because it would not exist...
[20:29] <joejc> why not?
[20:29] <hexa-> ubuntu uses debian sid upstream for the new distros
[20:29] <hexa-> they begin the new development with a merge from debian sid
[20:30] <hexa-> u cannot talk about things that don't exist right now
[20:30] <BUGabundo> errr
[20:30] <BUGabundo> not exacly but lets leave it like that
[20:30] <hexa-> well :D
[20:30] <BUGabundo> +2 exists... on blueprints
[20:30] <BUGabundo> and this # serves BOTH
[20:30] <hexa-> okay :o
[20:30] <joejc> arnt there things that cant be completed in 6 months?
[20:34] <hexa-> BUGabundo: does nautilus have some sort of debugging?
[20:34] <Blinkiz> Hi there. I would like to explore how the work with Karmic Koala is going. Like what features will be implemented. Does it exist?
[20:34] <hexa-> because when i start it from console and make it crash it doesnt give a clue
[20:34] <hexa-> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview
[20:34] <BUGabundo> hexa-: yes
[20:34] <BUGabundo> !debug | hexa-
[20:35] <hexa-> thanks
[20:35] <Blinkiz> hexa-, The link you provided, it shows whats in alpha 2. Am looking for meeting protocols or similar
[20:36] <Blinkiz> hexa-, Maybe "blueprints" is the right word here?
[20:36] <hexa-> yes
[20:36] <hexa-> maybe :)
[20:37] <hexa-> BUGabundo: so i start nautilus like this: $ G_DEBUG=fatal_criticals nautilus
[20:37] <hexa-> but it doesn't give any output
[20:37] <Blinkiz> hexa-, Is this the right page to watch if I want to follow how the work with Karmic Koala is going? https://blueprints.launchpad.net/ubuntu/karmic
[20:37] <hexa-> it just goes back to prompt and nautilus starts
[20:37] <BUGabundo> !blueprints | Blinkiz
[20:38] <BUGabundo> hexa-: yeah that's one way
 --g-fatal-warnings doesnt work either
[20:41] <BUGabundo> did you replace <program> with nautilus?
[20:41] <hexa-> yes
[20:41] <hexa-> it starts
[20:41] <hexa-> the console goes back to the prompt
[20:42] <hexa-> can't even get a backtrace with gdb :|
[20:46] <BUGabundo> hexa-: did you added the ddeb repo ?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> and run apt-get update?
[20:46] <hexa-> eh no
[20:46] <BUGabundo> then installed the nautilus gdb-symb packages?
[20:46] <BUGabundo> ahh
[20:46] <BUGabundo> then how do you expect to have it running on gdb?
[20:47] <hexa-> hm ok
[20:50] <hexa-> does the dbgsym package replace mit nautilus binary?
[20:50] <hexa-> mit = my
[20:51] <Sarvatt> hexa: gdb /usr/bin/nautilus $(pidof nautilus)
[20:52] <Sarvatt> then type run
[20:52] <BUGabundo> yeah what Sarvatt said
[20:52] <BUGabundo> hi Sarvatt
[20:53] <hexa-> wow that is weird
[20:53] <hexa-> it doesnt crash anymore
[20:53] <hexa-> :o
[20:54] <hexa-> ah now again
[20:54] <hexa-> so when i do gdb [...] gdb loads the symbols
[20:54] <hexa-> then i type run and it tells me the debugging has already started and if i wanted to restart it, i say yes and nautilus opens
[20:55] <hexa-> nautilus window stays open and in the console appear
[20:55] <hexa-> Program exited normally.
[20:55] <BUGabundo> hexa-: now type bt full
[20:55] <BUGabundo> to get a trace
[20:55] <hexa-> i did
[20:55] <hexa-> it says No Stack
[20:56] <hexa-> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/395556/
[20:57] <BUGabundo> ahh
[20:57] <BUGabundo> you don't run It again
[20:58] <hexa-> if i don't run it again no window opens
[20:58] <BUGabundo> hexa-: now you get some one with better eyes to look at it
[20:58] <BUGabundo> maybe Sarvatt can help
[20:58] <hexa-> okay
[20:58] <BUGabundo> other wise you will have to ask seb128 on #ubuntu-devel
[20:58] <hexa-> Sarvatt: you still around?
[20:58] <hexa-> thank you
[20:59] <Sarvatt> theres no crash or problem there to backtrace
[20:59] <BUGabundo> np
[20:59] <hexa-> well
[20:59] <hexa-> i need to explain something
[21:00] <hexa-> until i rerun nautilus in gdb i couldnt cause they crash
[21:00] <hexa-> because there is no window open
[21:00] <Sarvatt> it doesnt start and theres no error when you just run nautilus in terminal?
[21:00] <hexa-> when i rerun the window opens but in gdb it says instantly the Program exited normaly, even though it is still open
[21:01] <hexa-> it doesnt start in specific directorys
[21:01] <hexa-> oh well, wait
[21:01] <hexa-> it starts in the directory
[21:01] <hexa-> but if I change to it from another directory it crashes
[21:01] <hexa-> no nvm
[21:02] <Sarvatt> leave it open in gdb and let it crash, it'll tell you when it crashes and you can do a bt full in there
[21:02] <hexa-> thats what doesnt work
[21:02] <hexa-> ah nvm
[21:02] <hexa-> i think i know what you mean :o
[21:02] <Sarvatt> it'll leave the window open and you cant interact with it, thats normal
[21:03]  * robin0800_ is back.
[21:03] <hexa-> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/395557/
[21:03] <hexa-> it goes this far without me interacting any further
[21:03] <hexa-> but i cant open anyy nautilus windows at that point
[21:04] <Sarvatt> type run
[21:04] <Sarvatt> and hit y
[21:04] <Sarvatt> then try your best to crash it
[21:04] <hexa-> http://paste.ubuntuusers.de/395558/
[21:04] <hexa-> it adds this
[21:04] <hexa-> and drops me back to the gdb prompt
[21:04] <hexa-> nautilus window has opened at that point
[21:05] <hexa-> and stays open
[21:05] <Sarvatt> weird
[21:05] <hexa-> as if a new thread was forked
[21:05] <Sarvatt> yeah it'll stay open until you close gdb
[21:05] <hexa-> no
[21:05] <hexa-> it stays open even if i close gdb
[21:08] <Sarvatt> probably still have an old gdb session going, can ya kill all of the nautilus and gdb processes and try again?
[21:08] <hexa-> ok
[21:09] <hexa-> nautilus automatically restarts
[21:11] <BUGabundo> ah?
[21:11] <BUGabundo> no it doesn't
[21:11] <hexa-> i type killall -9 nautilus
[21:11] <hexa-> and a second later ps |grep nautilus
[21:11] <hexa-> there is another session reopened
[21:13] <BUGabundo> let me try
[21:13] <Sarvatt> its displaying your desktop icons
[21:13] <hexa-> exactly
[21:14] <BUGabundo> ahh
[21:14] <BUGabundo> it happens
[21:14] <BUGabundo> LOL
[21:14] <Sarvatt> if you run nautilus seperately it opens the file manager though, did it get rid of the one that was hanging around open that you said?
[21:14] <Sarvatt> when you killall'ed it
[21:15] <hexa-> dunno
[21:15] <hexa-> ill retry gdb
[21:15] <hexa-> still the same
[21:23] <BUGabundo> anyone having trouble with FANS not stopping?
[21:25] <hggdh> on a laptop?
[21:25] <BUGabundo> yep
[21:25] <BUGabundo> always hearing this horrible sound
[21:26] <BUGabundo> I know its HOT here
[21:26] <BUGabundo> but still it used to be quieter
[21:26] <BUGabundo> I wonder if it is kernel bug
[21:26] <BUGabundo> or hibernation
[21:26] <BUGabundo>  21:26:28 up 4 days,  6:29,  6 users,  load average: 1.59, 0.98, 0.76
[21:26] <BUGabundo> woot
[21:26] <BUGabundo> must be a record
[21:26] <BUGabundo> usually after 2 or 3 I need a reboot
[21:27] <Jeruvy> are you running karmic?
[21:28] <BUGabundo> of course
[21:29] <BUGabundo> since week 1,5
[21:29] <BUGabundo> LOL
[21:29] <Jeruvy> sweet :)  I've not run it on a real box yet
[21:30] <BUGabundo> I do
[21:31] <Jeruvy> I'll have to try it on my lt, project for the weekend
[22:04] <BUGabundo> !backports
[22:34] <BUGabundo> joaopinto: isto em rede 'e q e' giro
[22:34] <BUGabundo> oops
[23:10] <vigo> Will 9.10a sit or reside next to 8.04.2 or 9.04?
[23:10] <BUGabundo> servidor0te