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macvr_MMA_: Hi... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/smiley1.png this my WIP smirk, this is the gnome smirk > http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/face-smirk.png ...Check out the eyes... Do the eyes in mine look OK?04:16
dashuahttp://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16659/screenshot_l55gj8.png ; http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16658/screenshot_gd69Ds.png ; http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16656/screenshot_005_fe8Hg9.png04:34
dashuaBlue attempt is coming along04:34
macvr_MMA_: busy? could you give feedback on my  ^05:30
macvr_MMA_: also i'm a bit stumped about , what details to add 128px smileys ?05:31
macvrthorwil:hi... did you clean up the breathe wiki too?09:26
thorwilmacvr: no, haven't touched it since a long time09:27
macvrthorwil: some one has! how do i view historyof the wiki changes? a lot of the attachments are deleted!09:28
thorwilmacvr: the Info link09:29
thorwilmacvr: though i'm not sure how the attachments are handled09:29
thorwilmacvr: but if you see a lot of text links instead of images, that could be due to the wiki surge protection09:30
thorwilaka let-us-make-good-use-of-the-wiki protection09:30
macvrthorwil: info also shows the attachments history... Michote seems to have deleted!09:31
macvrthorwil: isnt he new? should i send a mail regarding his inappropriate deletion of other s work?09:32
thorwilmacvr: he deleted other than his own submissions?09:34
macvryes! a lot of them... even andrew,s folder09:34
thorwilmacvr: if so, contact Cory. or send mail to michote and ask him what he was thinking, CCing Cory09:35
macvryeah... will do... thanx09:35
thorwilmacvr: as long as we can't be sure what happened, i would keep it off the list09:37
macvrthorwil: check the this link https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=info09:37
thorwilyeah, did already09:38
macvrso shall i send to list too?09:39
macvri hadnt backed up a couple of stuff!09:40
thorwilmacvr: no, mail to michote and Cory09:40
macvrok...09:40
thorwilmacvr: i guess you can just go back to a revision before the deletions and retrieve the attachments from there09:41
macvrNO :(09:41
thorwilmacvr: ok, i see the wiki is a bit stuoid in that regard, but you can view the text revisions and get the images and svg right from the page09:46
thorwilyou just can't bring up the attachments list for any but the current rev09:47
macvri kinda think its probably ideal... not to over load the wiki with old unwanted stuff...09:48
thorwilmacvr: also, each ATTNEW has view anf get links ...09:48
thorwilmacvr: anyway, do keep backups and consider using version management at home09:49
macvrbut such new users being "helpful" is scary!09:49
macvryeah backups is good!09:49
macvr:(09:49
thorwilyou could even open a bzr branch at launchpad09:50
macvrah... ! bzr seems too complicated... maybe when i have time , i'll look into it :)09:51
thorwilmacvr: it's dead simple, actually09:52
thorwilthings only get a little complicated with merging and stuff, but that never happens with a single user branch09:52
macvranother thing... my "work" is too minuscule for a separate branch :P09:53
thorwilmacvr: no09:53
macvr:)09:54
thorwilthere's no reason not to have a branch for just a text file or just 1 or a handful of icons09:54
macvroh... i didnt know that....09:55
macvrmaybe as i said when i have patience , i'll open one....  right now i figuring a way NOT to yell at michote in the mail :/09:56
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dashuaSiDi: Sup mate?14:19
* dashua ponders updating to Karmic on his production machine14:21
dashuaIt's running 10X better than Jaunty on my Dell Mini14:21
kwwiianyone thinking about updating to a pre-release version should know that things can go horribly wrong (like when jaunty ruined my cd burner)14:25
dashuaJaunty was rock solid apart from a few audio issues.  I started at A3.  The development versions are becoming very solid.14:29
dashuaWow, no CD burner is not good.14:29
dashuaI did it for the netbook for the kernel and the intel improvements and it was definitely worth it.14:29
kwwiithe kernel wiped the firmware on my burner making it useless14:30
dashuaUNR and Compiz did not work at all together on Jaunty, Karmic is working good.14:30
dashuaOh damn.  They really does suck.14:31
kwwiifunny thing is, it still works in windows14:31
dashuaHa14:32
dashuaIt's usually the other way around14:32
dashuaHrm, where is this Mac-like OSX look we're going for described on the mailing list?14:39
macvr^ haha14:39
macvrkwwii: there seems to be a problem with the download-them-all firefox extension and wiki... seems one member has deleted a lot of attachments by using it...!14:41
macvrkwwii: i'v asked him to report to the mailing list with a list of all the pages he has used the plugin... maybe since you have the extension.. could you check out what the problem is and warn members not to use it..14:42
SiDidashua: fine, you ?14:50
SiDikarmic a3 is out ?14:50
dashuaGood, weather is not good here14:50
dashuaA2 was just released not too long ago14:50
SiDiweather is HOT here*14:51
SiDijust back from buying ice cream  :D14:52
dashuaRain :(14:52
dashuaI came up with a blue kwasi version of Hanso.  I actually liked it for about a day, now back to brown =/14:53
SiDikwasi ?14:54
dashuahttp://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16659/screenshot_l55gj8.png ; http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16658/screenshot_gd69Ds.png ; http://www.ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16656/screenshot_005_fe8Hg9.png14:54
dashuaBased on, hacked up version14:54
SiDiit doesnt render good :(14:55
dashuaBlue is not for me =/14:56
kwwiimacvr: I cannot see any way that it can erase files from a wiki15:04
kwwiiI used it to download but it kept hitting the surge protection15:05
macvrkwwii: i dont know how he did it... but i'v told him to provide more details to the mailing list... i think he is now tracing all the pages !15:06
kwwiifreaky15:06
kwwiibe sure the conversation makes it to the mailing list15:06
macvrkwwii: But this could happen to everone using downthemall-oneclick.15:06
macvrI found that if you click one pixel beside the real link and use right.click => downthmeall-oneclick,15:06
macvrit will start mass downloading and will visit all delete-links (filtering it as a download link).15:06
macvr^that was his response15:07
kwwiiouch15:17
kwwiidouble ouch15:18
kwwiiyes, that deserves and email15:18
kwwiiand probably to more people than just this list15:18
macvrkwwii: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/BreatheIconSet/Submissions?action=info check out this page... you can see his accidental deletions... he is now adding the images back again... and i told him to definitely report this to the mailing list15:22
kwwiiyeah, just read his email15:22
kwwiinasty that15:22
kwwiiI just sent one telling people not to use it until we figure this out15:22
kwwiithanks for bringing this to my attention15:22
macvrnp...15:23
kwwiithen again, it would be a great way to delete things without giving an explanation :p15:23
kwwiiOops, your stuff is gone, if it was important, put it back up :p15:23
macvrhaha .. you evil man :P15:23
kwwii;)15:26
kwwiitime for a break, bbl15:26
michoteHi15:41
macvrmichote: for the devil-smiley... the top color is good , but the bottom becomes too dark15:41
macvrhow many stops have you used for the red gradient?15:42
michotewhich one?15:42
macvrboth use the same red color right?15:42
michotethe one of the backround and the horns yes15:43
Viper550hey15:43
macvrmichote: i mean the face red gradient15:43
michotemacvr: I use 3 stops, the darkest is #901010ff15:46
macvrdelete the darkest15:46
macvrmichote: i just tried in my system... just deleting the  the darkest #901010ff , and leaving it as just 2 stops... makes the smileys bright... i feel this is better...15:50
michotemacvr: ok http://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16684/face_devil_sad_WaOhGD.png15:50
macvrmichote: yup , this looks brighter... :)15:51
macvrmichote: for the horns, have you tried thorwil's suggestions?15:51
michotemacvr: I even made some coour-studys on glasses ;)15:51
michotehttp://ubuntu-pics.de/bild/16685/face_glasses_dark_4sK2y1.png15:51
macvrmichote: i really like the glases... but dont know which to choose :P15:53
michotemacvr: yes, they use the facegradient now and blur on the outline and highlight15:53
macvrmichote: i think the dark blue glasses are better..15:54
macvrmichote: i think you misunderstood... he meant blur near the bottom , so that the horns merge with the face and there is no line15:55
macvrshine of the version in the wiki was nice, this one the horn shine has too much blur15:56
michotemacvr: I didn't changed the blur of the shine15:57
michoteI used blur on the outline to get the mergeeffect but getting a schadow under the horn15:58
macvrmichote: check the 48px and 32px , the right horns have a second line! i think accidentally you have changed something15:58
michotemacvr: I'll upload a blue version to the wiki15:59
macvrmichote: even the 22px horn has that second line.... i think its the shadow from the back...16:01
michotemacvr: the 128px has it, as well, I used one to fit the blur outline of the base, the other i used with a little offset as a shadow16:02
thorwilmacvr: i actually meant blur for shading16:03
thorwilhorns look allright to me now16:03
thorwilfor the glasses, i'd pick bottom left. or something betwwen top left and bottom left16:04
michotethorwil: something betwwen top left and bottom left would be like bottom right16:05
michoteI used dark red in bottom-left16:06
thorwilhmm, seems to have a slight blueish shift16:07
* thorwil -> bicycle16:11
michotemacvr: So what? ;)16:21
michotewhich glasses and should I change the horns once again?16:21
macvrmichote: back...16:49
macvrmichote: something wrong with my eyes! i see a shadow in the png but not in the svg!16:52
macvrthe glasses blue seems nice16:52
macvr^ the top left one16:53
michotedid you opend the svg or just in nautilus?16:53
michotenautilus sometimes doesn't render everything in its preview16:54
macvri opened it in inkscape only now... which shows no double line of the right horn .... but in the wiki and also the one you have hosted i see double lines in the right horn!16:55
macvrif you dont see it... ignore... i think i was looking at the LCD for tooooo long!16:56
Viper550http://grub.gibibit.com/ ypuv16:56
Viper550*you've seen this?16:56
macvrmichote: if you dont see the double line of the right horn in the 48,32,22px ignore it... and upload the new version16:58
macvrViper550: wow... looks nice16:58
macvrBut usplash does it well too16:59
Viper550that's for grub 216:59
macvrmaybe they'll add this for karmic... since they are using grub217:00
michotemacvr: done17:10
macvrmichote: when you are doing artwork... it is sometimes helpful being on the irc... look out for thorwil , he is very helpful and one of the devs involved in breathe17:29
SiDiand dont look out for sidi17:29
SiDihe's a troll17:29
macvrdefinately not SiDi :P17:29
michoteOk, i'll be here more often ;)17:29
macvrmichote: But Cory is the main... his nick is _MMA_17:30
macvrthey might take time to respond , but be patient :)17:30
macvrSiDi: what have you been upto besides remember when everyone eats? :P17:31
macvrremembering^17:31
SiDiWhat did the GIMP devs smoke when they decided a layer should have a height and a width instead of just using its alpha...17:31
michotewe definately need a face-raspberry in reathe17:31
SiDimacvr: coding, lately17:31
SiDiand not having the internet, too17:31
SiDiand buying icecream17:32
macvrmichote: as i said already said... finishing the ones in the list first , then rest17:32
michoteok, I'm on face-angel now17:32
* macvr suddenly has a craving for ice cream17:33
* SiDi hates gimp17:33
macvrmichote: for the rest of the smileys, here is the list> http://standards.freedesktop.org/icon-naming-spec/icon-naming-spec-latest.html#guidelines17:34
michotethanks, but there're some different names than on submission (devilish, cool), it's like the gnom-icons17:38
michotedoes anybody know a good referenz for a gloriole?17:39
SiDiI wish the "align" tool of gimp could ALIGN my f***in layers17:40
macvrmichote: have you edited the appointment soon? my version17:45
michoteno I just downloaded the svg from the wiki and created a png from it using a nautilus-skript and uploaded it to the wiki17:47
macvrmichote: the png is fuzzy... !17:48
macvrwhy are you using nautilus script?17:48
macvryou can export from inkscape17:48
michoteyes, but I had to convert about 15 svg to png at once to restore all I deleted17:49
macvrluckily i have a backup of that...17:50
michoteI used quality 100 in the script, but maybe its worse the export of inkscape17:50
macvrdid you use the script for the devil smileys too?17:51
macvrmichote: i'v re-uploaded my version of the appointment-soon17:58
michoteno, on the smileys I used the export of inkscpe18:02
michoteit was just on this accident on the wiki, I didn't want to open 15 svg, change the export path and export, when there is a script for it.18:04
michoteI didn't know that it is worse18:05
SiDiHow can i forbid gimp to draw the borders of layers ?18:18
macvrSiDi: ^haha ... looks like GIMP is really p**sing  you off!18:26
SiDiOH REALLY ?18:30
SiDiaaaargh18:33
SiDihow can i edit gradients Q_Q ?18:33
* SiDi seriously doesnt wonder why people pay for photoshop Q.Q18:33
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IHateGimpis it really impossible to have a gradient with THREE DAMN COLOURS ,18:52
michoteno, rightclick in the gradient editor and duplicat segment18:56
IHateGimpbut how to change the color of this segment ?18:59
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SiDigood night everyone23:16
kwwiiyeah, night all23:19
lamalexDoes anyone have time to make a mockup?23:56
lamalexThe ubuntu-us teams project is working on an interactive map for state locos, but the info popup is a little bit ugly and could use a designers touch23:56
lamalexhttp://divajutta.com/doctormo/locomap/locomap-fill.svg <-- current23:56
MTecknologylamalex: just fyi - it's the ubuntu-drupal team ;)23:59
lamalexmeh, whatever23:59
lamalexdoesn't really matter23:59

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