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hggdhyofel, the but is still open for libgtkada200:23
hggdhs/but/bug/00:23
emil_sHello! This one should be opened again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/4212100:32
ubot4Launchpad bug 42121 in sysvinit "Symlinks for umountnfs / sendsigs wrong: hang on shutdown / reboot" [Medium,Fix released]00:32
emil_sI should set it as "confirmed" right?00:33
kklimondaI thnk you should report new bug00:34
kklimondaemil_s: it looks like this reincarnation of the bug is linked to networkmanager and the way it handles connections00:35
kklimondaemil_s: so it's not the same00:36
BUGabundoyofel: are you going to ask that every where? :p00:36
yofelBUGabundo: hggdh was the first one who actually answered me :P (And I asked because I don't know where to ask...)00:37
BUGabundoI know00:37
emil_skklimonda: Well, it's actually this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/153444, which is a duplicate of #4212100:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 153444 in samba ""CIFS VFS: Server not responding" message on shutdown (dup-of: 42121)" [Undecided,Incomplete]00:38
ubot4Launchpad bug 42121 in sysvinit "Symlinks for umountnfs / sendsigs wrong: hang on shutdown / reboot" [Medium,Fix released]00:38
emil_sSo I guess 42121 is the right one00:39
kklimondaemil_s: just open a new bug, you can mention both of them00:40
kklimondaemil_s: only because symptoms are the same doesn't mean that it's the same bug.00:40
emil_sOkok, i'll do so :)00:42
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hggdh!info timeout01:03
ubot4hggdh: timeout (source: tct): run a command with a time limit. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.18-2 (jaunty), package size 24 kB, installed size 84 kB01:03
hggdhweird01:03
BUGabundohggdh: why ?01:03
hggdhbecause the package 'timeout' allows you to run a command with a timeout, and tct is The Coroners Toolkit, a completely differetn thing01:06
hggdhdarn!01:07
hggdhtct *also* provides timeout01:07
hggdhsigh. This is it, for me. Going to walk the dogs01:08
BUGabundohey micahg01:21
micahghey BUGabundo01:21
BUGabundosaw a few hours a message from mozilla on identica stating they fixed color profiles on 3.501:22
micahgyep, but it was the ati drivers that fixed it :)01:22
BUGabundook ok01:22
micahgI saw the post on the mozilla bug and then d/l the drivers, confirmed and set the LP bug01:23
BUGabundook01:23
* BUGabundo $ sudo shutdown -t now ; echo 1 lamb, 2 lamb, 3 lamb 4rrrr lammbbbb.....01:45
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micahgping hggdh02:30
* bcurtiswx-mini kicks hggdh02:31
micahgbcurtiswx-mini: hggdh isn't a bot :)02:32
bcurtiswx-minioh ... yeah :P02:32
micahgbut Bugabundo plays one sometimes :)02:32
bcurtiswx-miniyeah, theres an unwritten rule with him... just kick him no matter what O:-)02:33
bcurtiswx-minii guess since i wont be back in va until august, i can change the name on my mini02:34
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cyan-spamhey... i'm looking at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage> and finding it a little awkward03:25
cyan-spami have a couple ideas of how to improve it, but is there some process for that?03:25
cyan-spami don't wanna go messing things up03:25
cyan-spammmm i'll do mailing list03:31
micahgcyan-spam: probably a good idea03:31
micahgor you might get more answers in the morning03:31
hggdhbcurtiswx, ping04:45
* hggdh kicks bcurtiswx 04:45
bcurtiswxhggdh: pong.  i was just being funny earlier... i think micahg wanted you :P04:45
bcurtiswxhey, that was my good foot04:45
hggdh:-)04:45
hggdhmicahg, pong04:46
hggdhI will be back tomorrow. G'night, all y'all04:52
thekorngood morning06:31
dholbachgood morning06:32
thekornhey dholbach06:34
dholbachheya thekorn06:35
bigonhe empathy bugday \o/08:15
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pedro_folks remember that we're celebrating a hug day based on empathy today!13:04
pedro_https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/2009061813:04
pedro_feel free to grab any bug off that list and squash it13:04
wolfredhi, is it just me or does launchpad not work?13:11
wolfredhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug      enter package foo, entery  summary foo, press continue.. and NOTHING happens - wtf13:11
pedro_wolfred: just tested that and it works fine here13:13
pedro_bug 38894813:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 388948 in nautilus "test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38894813:13
pedro_in any case13:13
wolfredit doesnt work here13:13
pedro_wolfred: you might want to ask on #launchpad then13:14
wolfredif I enter no package, then I get the error messages that I should enter it, only this works13:14
wolfredok13:14
pedro_hey jgoguen, how's going?14:14
jgoguenpedro_: it's going pretty good, just switched to Kubuntu...thought I'd give KDE a try :)14:16
BUGabundoboas tardes14:27
kklimondaboas what? ;)14:31
BUGabundoehe I'll tell you in pvt lol14:32
BUGabundokklimonda: how are you !?14:32
kklimondafine, thanks - well, maybe a bit tired ;/14:32
BUGabundoI have an aking pain on a nee, from falling last night! its all YOUR fault :p14:35
BUGabundohey dholbach14:35
kklimondaBUGabundo: when did you fall? :)14:36
BUGabundoafter dinner. well I didn't fall fall. I tumbled on the stairs.14:37
BUGabundobut only when I got out of bed this morning I felt the pain ;(14:37
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kklimondaoh :)14:40
BUGabundonot funny! it hurts14:41
BUGabundotried to do some work today, and was in pain all morning14:41
BUGabundostayed at home after lunch!14:41
BUGabundojcastro: ping14:44
BUGabundo+  * When membership expires you should put yourself down for the next membership board for reapproval every 2 years.14:45
BUGabundojcastro: where can I find the discussion that lead to this change in membership ?14:45
jcastrothere wasn't one14:45
BUGabundooh14:45
jcastropeople renewing themselves didn't make sense14:45
jcastroso we decided that going in for a renewal every 2 years isn't much to ask14:46
BUGabundoso there was a discussion ?14:46
BUGabundowhen you say "we decide"14:46
jcastrojono and I were on the phone14:46
jcastroit wasn't a public discussion14:46
BUGabundoah ok14:46
jcastroif you think it should be we can do that.14:47
jcastroI have no strong feelings either way14:47
BUGabundoI have no feelings on this14:47
kklimondajcastro: you mean that up to now members were only required to click some "renew my membership" button?14:47
BUGabundobut since I try to keep an eye on news, and got this change on the wiki, without any background14:48
jcastrokklimonda: yeah or they could ask an existing admin to just renew them14:48
kklimondathat sounds.. kinda pointless14:48
BUGabundoand it does affect me, as an Ubuntu Member, I was trying to get a more clear picture14:48
jcastrokklimonda: yes, the problem is that people only just started expiring recently14:48
BUGabundokklimonda: that's the way with *every* other team on LP14:48
jcastroso it wasn't really a problem until just recently14:48
BUGabundojcastro: so really long time members that have not interact with the Community recently, how will they present them selfs to the board?14:49
kklimondai see14:49
jcastroBUGabundo: they will add their name down, if they haven't done anything then their membership should have expired. Those that still do will be a quick approval.14:50
kklimondaBUGabundo: but membership and development teams are "special" i.e. there is no point in having members who aren't actually part of community anymore14:50
jcastroBUGabundo: "sustained contribution" applies here14:50
jcastroif you became a member 2 years ago and now you don't do anything then your membership will expire14:50
BUGabundomakes sense14:51
* BUGabundo already see the amount of _old_ member, trashing their business cards with ubuntu logo :)14:51
kklimondajcastro: what happens with email? is it going to be deleted or redirected somewhere? or will "they" keep it?14:52
jcastrowell, the address is just a forward.14:52
jpdskklimonda: Gets dropped.14:53
BUGabundolets see how that gets their attention14:54
kklimondasure, but it kinda suggests involvement of a person in a project. I don't know what is the common practice amongst foss projects.14:54
BUGabundokklimonda: 2 years is a lot of time14:54
jcastroit mails you ahead of time14:55
BUGabundoppl can keep it up, or have their lifes changed!14:55
jcastrothere shouldn't be any "omg my mail is bouncing" at the last minute14:55
BUGabundojcastro: same as other teams? 2 weeks ?14:55
jcastroI guess14:55
jcastrothough we should probably change that, the membership councils don't meet that often14:55
BUGabundois it enough for someone you now notice they may loose membership and tries to make for it ?14:55
jpdsEmails are sent to the persons primary email address on Launchpad which should NOT be set to an @ubuntu.com address.14:56
jpdsTo find out why not, check out the pretty page I wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail14:57
jcastroBUGabundo: you're overcomplicating it, it'll be ok14:57
jcastrojpds: got a power adapter from hp btw, I am all set14:58
jpdsjcastro: Awesomeness.14:58
jcastrojpds: ends up the pin broke on my old adapter, probably while in the bag with all my junk14:58
jpdsHmm.14:58
* jpds still has to wait another to get paid for new Thinkpad.14:58
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darthanubishttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/34748715:13
ubot4Launchpad bug 347487 in virtualbox-ose "starting virtual machine in virtualbox-ose freezes system" [Medium,Confirmed]15:13
BUGabundoconfirmed? by who?15:14
* BUGabundo checks changelog15:14
BUGabundohey bddebian15:14
BUGabundobeen missing the boo15:14
bddebianBoo :)15:15
BUGabundofoo15:15
bddebianHi BUGabundo15:15
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davmor2Guys I found a bug with empathy15:44
davmor2The current build (karmic) doesn't include telepathy-idle if you add it and log onto #ubuntu-testing no names appear in the contact panel15:46
pedro_that's a known bug15:46
pedro_bug 38743015:47
ubot4Launchpad bug 387430 in empathy "IRC Contacts not shown" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38743015:47
pedro_davmor2: ^15:47
davmor2pedro_: cool15:47
pedro_davmor2: just verified and it's indeed fixed on 2.27.315:52
pedro_gosh i love this adium themes15:52
davmor2pedro_: is the contact tab not showing anything down to the same error do you know, I'm assuming it is but you know what assumption is :)15:54
pedro_heh15:55
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micahgping hggdh17:35
hggdhmicahg, pong17:39
micahghi17:39
hggdhhi, micahg, hope life is good17:39
micahgok, so remember that guy with a lot of support requests as bugs?17:39
hggdhyes17:39
micahgok, so he made a feature request in one of the Qs that I converted17:39
hggdhURL?17:40
micahghttps://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/7445817:40
hggdhis co.archive the main UK archive?17:42
micahgwell, all the *.archive.ubuntu.com servers are in the UK17:42
jpdshggdh: Yes.17:42
jpdsmicahg: No.17:42
micahgno?17:42
micahgall the one's I've seen have been there17:42
jpdsNo, fr., no., se., de., and es. are not for example.17:43
micahginteresting17:43
micahgso jpds why not the us one?17:43
jpdsmicahg: Cos the US one does insane ammounts of bandwidth and no US mirror is prepared to take it.17:43
micahgah17:44
jpdsmicahg: Other examples of country mirrors are: jp., cn., and sg..17:44
micahgok, well that's good to know17:45
hggdhjpds, thanks -- I did not know about localisation on the archives (and wrongly thought) the country prefix would set where the archive resided)17:45
hggdhmicahg, so... well, it could be looked at by the installer (doing a search for the, er, best mirror); OTOH, the user can also do that17:46
micahgyes, I suggested the user do it17:47
micahghe suggested automation which is a feature request17:47
micahgshould I ask him to open a feature request in Software Sources?17:47
hggdhyes. Word it nicely, and set it as an answer.17:48
micahg:)17:48
hggdh:-)17:48
jpdsmicahg: If you want to download packages from a local US mirror, feel free to pick one from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors17:48
Nafallohggdh: that's true in areas where we have candidates for being mirrors.17:49
micahgnah, I'm ok with using the latest updates from canonical17:49
micahgI've tries the US mirrors17:49
micahgand I end up changing them every few days as they get stale17:49
BUGabundofor the record pt.archive points to Portugal too17:49
jpdsBUGabundo: It doesn't.17:50
BUGabundojpds: so instead of having a local mirror on the states, US users get it from this side of the ocean? crazy17:50
BUGabundojpds: sure it does17:50
BUGabundoits from Coimbra17:50
BUGabundocheck the IP17:50
micahghggdh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/198653/17:50
* hggdh sits and watches17:50
hggdhmicahg, perfect!17:51
micahgsorry BUGabundo17:51
micahgmy DNS records don't concur17:51
jpdsBUGabundo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198654/17:51
jpdsBUGabundo: And yes, the US does grab stuff straight for the UK.17:52
* hggdh wonders -- again -- about the massive amount of data transfer, percolation, and grids17:53
BUGabundojpds: when did that changed?17:53
BUGabundoit wasn't like that 2 weeks ago17:53
NafalloBUGabundo: yes it was.17:54
BUGabundoI really would hoped I had hard data to tell you guys it wasnt17:55
BUGabundoI did check that my self several times!17:56
BUGabundohumm17:56
BUGabundowait. I think I have a log17:56
NafalloBUGabundo: releases or archive?17:56
BUGabundohttp://www.robtex.com/dns/pt.archive.ubuntu.com.html17:56
BUGabundogo ti17:56
BUGabundodamn its now updated17:57
BUGabundoI can be very very wrong, but when I checked this a few weeks ago, it pointed to Coimbra, Portugal17:57
Nafallooh. you switched from the discussion about .us to .pt... I didn't realise.17:57
BUGabundoNafallo: I did!17:57
BUGabundoI never mention us, other to say it was crazy to do it over the atlantic17:58
NafalloBUGabundo: sure.17:58
hggdhwell, we could (er, can) also do it via the Pacific18:00
BUGabundoLOL18:01
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BUGabundoin case you missed it: Ubuntu Global Jam NOW on #ubuntu-meeting19:00
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sebsebsebit happended to me a  few weeks ago,   it happended to someone  else, and someone today.   These days  there seems to be a bug or something,  when people upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10,  and then lose ethernet connection.  Just wanted to report that, and I don't want to log in to my old launchpad and do it there.19:27
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BUGabundobencrisford: how did the meeting go? did you make it ?21:16
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kakemannbug #380161 is fixed in the new version wich is in karmic, should this bug be closed then, or should it stay open until karmic is officially out?22:46
ubot4Launchpad bug 380161 in audacious "audacious won't 'display track information'" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38016122:46
dtchenkakemann: marking it fix released is appropriate22:46
bdmurraydtchen: I was unable to recreate that ftbfs bug22:47
dtchenbdmurray: that's fine; the source package in question (haskell-x11-xft) has already been synced and built for karmic22:48
hggdhkakemann, if it is fixed on Karmic it can be closed Fix Released.22:49
dtchen(well, technically haskell-x11-xft was a no-change source upload, and xmonad-contrib was a sync)22:49
kakemannok23:00
kakemannthanks23:00
Ampelbeinkakemann: there is a standard response for that case (fixed in karmic): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed%20in%20Development%20release%20while%20still%20existing%20in%20a%20previous%20release23:10
charles_the things one learns from reading irc.  I'd never seen that /Bugs/Resonses page before23:59
BUGabundocharles_: ehehe23:59

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