[00:23] <hggdh> yofel, the but is still open for libgtkada2
[00:23] <hggdh> s/but/bug/
[00:32] <emil_s> Hello! This one should be opened again: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/sysvinit/+bug/42121
[00:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 42121 in sysvinit "Symlinks for umountnfs / sendsigs wrong: hang on shutdown / reboot" [Medium,Fix released]
[00:33] <emil_s> I should set it as "confirmed" right?
[00:34] <kklimonda> I thnk you should report new bug
[00:35] <kklimonda> emil_s: it looks like this reincarnation of the bug is linked to networkmanager and the way it handles connections
[00:36] <kklimonda> emil_s: so it's not the same
[00:36] <BUGabundo> yofel: are you going to ask that every where? :p
[00:37] <yofel> BUGabundo: hggdh was the first one who actually answered me :P (And I asked because I don't know where to ask...)
[00:37] <BUGabundo> I know
[00:38] <emil_s> kklimonda: Well, it's actually this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/samba/+bug/153444, which is a duplicate of #42121
[00:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 153444 in samba ""CIFS VFS: Server not responding" message on shutdown (dup-of: 42121)" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[00:38] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 42121 in sysvinit "Symlinks for umountnfs / sendsigs wrong: hang on shutdown / reboot" [Medium,Fix released]
[00:39] <emil_s> So I guess 42121 is the right one
[00:40] <kklimonda> emil_s: just open a new bug, you can mention both of them
[00:40] <kklimonda> emil_s: only because symptoms are the same doesn't mean that it's the same bug.
[00:42] <emil_s> Okok, i'll do so :)
[01:03] <hggdh> !info timeout
[01:03] <ubot4> hggdh: timeout (source: tct): run a command with a time limit. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.18-2 (jaunty), package size 24 kB, installed size 84 kB
[01:03] <hggdh> weird
[01:03] <BUGabundo> hggdh: why ?
[01:06] <hggdh> because the package 'timeout' allows you to run a command with a timeout, and tct is The Coroners Toolkit, a completely differetn thing
[01:07] <hggdh> darn!
[01:07] <hggdh> tct *also* provides timeout
[01:08] <hggdh> sigh. This is it, for me. Going to walk the dogs
[01:21] <BUGabundo> hey micahg
[01:21] <micahg> hey BUGabundo
[01:22] <BUGabundo> saw a few hours a message from mozilla on identica stating they fixed color profiles on 3.5
[01:22] <micahg> yep, but it was the ati drivers that fixed it :)
[01:22] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[01:23] <micahg> I saw the post on the mozilla bug and then d/l the drivers, confirmed and set the LP bug
[01:23] <BUGabundo> ok
[01:45]  * BUGabundo $ sudo shutdown -t now ; echo 1 lamb, 2 lamb, 3 lamb 4rrrr lammbbbb.....
[02:30] <micahg> ping hggdh
[02:31]  * bcurtiswx-mini kicks hggdh
[02:32] <micahg> bcurtiswx-mini: hggdh isn't a bot :)
[02:32] <bcurtiswx-mini> oh ... yeah :P
[02:32] <micahg> but Bugabundo plays one sometimes :)
[02:33] <bcurtiswx-mini> yeah, theres an unwritten rule with him... just kick him no matter what O:-)
[02:34] <bcurtiswx-mini> i guess since i wont be back in va until august, i can change the name on my mini
[03:25] <cyan-spam> hey... i'm looking at <https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/FindRightPackage> and finding it a little awkward
[03:25] <cyan-spam> i have a couple ideas of how to improve it, but is there some process for that?
[03:25] <cyan-spam> i don't wanna go messing things up
[03:31] <cyan-spam> mmm i'll do mailing list
[03:31] <micahg> cyan-spam: probably a good idea
[03:31] <micahg> or you might get more answers in the morning
[04:45] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, ping
[04:45]  * hggdh kicks bcurtiswx 
[04:45] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: pong.  i was just being funny earlier... i think micahg wanted you :P
[04:45] <bcurtiswx> hey, that was my good foot
[04:45] <hggdh> :-)
[04:46] <hggdh> micahg, pong
[04:52] <hggdh> I will be back tomorrow. G'night, all y'all
[06:31] <thekorn> good morning
[06:32] <dholbach> good morning
[06:34] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[06:35] <dholbach> heya thekorn
[08:15] <bigon> he empathy bugday \o/
[13:04] <pedro_> folks remember that we're celebrating a hug day based on empathy today!
[13:04] <pedro_> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090618
[13:04] <pedro_> feel free to grab any bug off that list and squash it
[13:11] <wolfred> hi, is it just me or does launchpad not work?
[13:11] <wolfred> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/+filebug      enter package foo, entery  summary foo, press continue.. and NOTHING happens - wtf
[13:13] <pedro_> wolfred: just tested that and it works fine here
[13:13] <pedro_> bug 388948
[13:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 388948 in nautilus "test" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/388948
[13:13] <pedro_> in any case
[13:13] <wolfred> it doesnt work here
[13:14] <pedro_> wolfred: you might want to ask on #launchpad then
[13:14] <wolfred> if I enter no package, then I get the error messages that I should enter it, only this works
[13:14] <wolfred> ok
[14:14] <pedro_> hey jgoguen, how's going?
[14:16] <jgoguen> pedro_: it's going pretty good, just switched to Kubuntu...thought I'd give KDE a try :)
[14:27] <BUGabundo> boas tardes
[14:31] <kklimonda> boas what? ;)
[14:32] <BUGabundo> ehe I'll tell you in pvt lol
[14:32] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: how are you !?
[14:32] <kklimonda> fine, thanks - well, maybe a bit tired ;/
[14:35] <BUGabundo> I have an aking pain on a nee, from falling last night! its all YOUR fault :p
[14:35] <BUGabundo> hey dholbach
[14:36] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: when did you fall? :)
[14:37] <BUGabundo> after dinner. well I didn't fall fall. I tumbled on the stairs.
[14:37] <BUGabundo> but only when I got out of bed this morning I felt the pain ;(
[14:40] <kklimonda> oh :)
[14:41] <BUGabundo> not funny! it hurts
[14:41] <BUGabundo> tried to do some work today, and was in pain all morning
[14:41] <BUGabundo> stayed at home after lunch!
[14:44] <BUGabundo> jcastro: ping
[14:45] <BUGabundo> +  * When membership expires you should put yourself down for the next membership board for reapproval every 2 years.
[14:45] <BUGabundo> jcastro: where can I find the discussion that lead to this change in membership ?
[14:45] <jcastro> there wasn't one
[14:45] <BUGabundo> oh
[14:45] <jcastro> people renewing themselves didn't make sense
[14:46] <jcastro> so we decided that going in for a renewal every 2 years isn't much to ask
[14:46] <BUGabundo> so there was a discussion ?
[14:46] <BUGabundo> when you say "we decide"
[14:46] <jcastro> jono and I were on the phone
[14:46] <jcastro> it wasn't a public discussion
[14:46] <BUGabundo> ah ok
[14:47] <jcastro> if you think it should be we can do that.
[14:47] <jcastro> I have no strong feelings either way
[14:47] <BUGabundo> I have no feelings on this
[14:47] <kklimonda> jcastro: you mean that up to now members were only required to click some "renew my membership" button?
[14:48] <BUGabundo> but since I try to keep an eye on news, and got this change on the wiki, without any background
[14:48] <jcastro> kklimonda: yeah or they could ask an existing admin to just renew them
[14:48] <kklimonda> that sounds.. kinda pointless
[14:48] <BUGabundo> and it does affect me, as an Ubuntu Member, I was trying to get a more clear picture
[14:48] <jcastro> kklimonda: yes, the problem is that people only just started expiring recently
[14:48] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: that's the way with *every* other team on LP
[14:48] <jcastro> so it wasn't really a problem until just recently
[14:49] <BUGabundo> jcastro: so really long time members that have not interact with the Community recently, how will they present them selfs to the board?
[14:49] <kklimonda> i see
[14:50] <jcastro> BUGabundo: they will add their name down, if they haven't done anything then their membership should have expired. Those that still do will be a quick approval.
[14:50] <kklimonda> BUGabundo: but membership and development teams are "special" i.e. there is no point in having members who aren't actually part of community anymore
[14:50] <jcastro> BUGabundo: "sustained contribution" applies here
[14:50] <jcastro> if you became a member 2 years ago and now you don't do anything then your membership will expire
[14:51] <BUGabundo> makes sense
[14:51]  * BUGabundo already see the amount of _old_ member, trashing their business cards with ubuntu logo :)
[14:52] <kklimonda> jcastro: what happens with email? is it going to be deleted or redirected somewhere? or will "they" keep it?
[14:52] <jcastro> well, the address is just a forward.
[14:53] <jpds> kklimonda: Gets dropped.
[14:54] <BUGabundo> lets see how that gets their attention
[14:54] <kklimonda> sure, but it kinda suggests involvement of a person in a project. I don't know what is the common practice amongst foss projects.
[14:54] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: 2 years is a lot of time
[14:55] <jcastro> it mails you ahead of time
[14:55] <BUGabundo> ppl can keep it up, or have their lifes changed!
[14:55] <jcastro> there shouldn't be any "omg my mail is bouncing" at the last minute
[14:55] <BUGabundo> jcastro: same as other teams? 2 weeks ?
[14:55] <jcastro> I guess
[14:55] <jcastro> though we should probably change that, the membership councils don't meet that often
[14:55] <BUGabundo> is it enough for someone you now notice they may loose membership and tries to make for it ?
[14:56] <jpds> Emails are sent to the persons primary email address on Launchpad which should NOT be set to an @ubuntu.com address.
[14:57] <jpds> To find out why not, check out the pretty page I wrote: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuEmail
[14:57] <jcastro> BUGabundo: you're overcomplicating it, it'll be ok
[14:58] <jcastro> jpds: got a power adapter from hp btw, I am all set
[14:58] <jpds> jcastro: Awesomeness.
[14:58] <jcastro> jpds: ends up the pin broke on my old adapter, probably while in the bag with all my junk
[14:58] <jpds> Hmm.
[14:58]  * jpds still has to wait another to get paid for new Thinkpad.
[15:13] <darthanubis> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virtualbox-ose/+bug/347487
[15:13] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 347487 in virtualbox-ose "starting virtual machine in virtualbox-ose freezes system" [Medium,Confirmed]
[15:14] <BUGabundo> confirmed? by who?
[15:14]  * BUGabundo checks changelog
[15:14] <BUGabundo> hey bddebian
[15:14] <BUGabundo> been missing the boo
[15:15] <bddebian> Boo :)
[15:15] <BUGabundo> foo
[15:15] <bddebian> Hi BUGabundo
[15:44] <davmor2> Guys I found a bug with empathy
[15:46] <davmor2> The current build (karmic) doesn't include telepathy-idle if you add it and log onto #ubuntu-testing no names appear in the contact panel
[15:46] <pedro_> that's a known bug
[15:47] <pedro_> bug 387430
[15:47] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387430 in empathy "IRC Contacts not shown" [Undecided,Fix committed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387430
[15:47] <pedro_> davmor2: ^
[15:47] <davmor2> pedro_: cool
[15:52] <pedro_> davmor2: just verified and it's indeed fixed on 2.27.3
[15:52] <pedro_> gosh i love this adium themes
[15:54] <davmor2> pedro_: is the contact tab not showing anything down to the same error do you know, I'm assuming it is but you know what assumption is :)
[15:55] <pedro_> heh
[17:35] <micahg> ping hggdh
[17:39] <hggdh> micahg, pong
[17:39] <micahg> hi
[17:39] <hggdh> hi, micahg, hope life is good
[17:39] <micahg> ok, so remember that guy with a lot of support requests as bugs?
[17:39] <hggdh> yes
[17:39] <micahg> ok, so he made a feature request in one of the Qs that I converted
[17:40] <hggdh> URL?
[17:40] <micahg> https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/74458
[17:42] <hggdh> is co.archive the main UK archive?
[17:42] <micahg> well, all the *.archive.ubuntu.com servers are in the UK
[17:42] <jpds> hggdh: Yes.
[17:42] <jpds> micahg: No.
[17:42] <micahg> no?
[17:42] <micahg> all the one's I've seen have been there
[17:43] <jpds> No, fr., no., se., de., and es. are not for example.
[17:43] <micahg> interesting
[17:43] <micahg> so jpds why not the us one?
[17:43] <jpds> micahg: Cos the US one does insane ammounts of bandwidth and no US mirror is prepared to take it.
[17:44] <micahg> ah
[17:44] <jpds> micahg: Other examples of country mirrors are: jp., cn., and sg..
[17:45] <micahg> ok, well that's good to know
[17:45] <hggdh> jpds, thanks -- I did not know about localisation on the archives (and wrongly thought) the country prefix would set where the archive resided)
[17:46] <hggdh> micahg, so... well, it could be looked at by the installer (doing a search for the, er, best mirror); OTOH, the user can also do that
[17:47] <micahg> yes, I suggested the user do it
[17:47] <micahg> he suggested automation which is a feature request
[17:47] <micahg> should I ask him to open a feature request in Software Sources?
[17:48] <hggdh> yes. Word it nicely, and set it as an answer.
[17:48] <micahg> :)
[17:48] <hggdh> :-)
[17:48] <jpds> micahg: If you want to download packages from a local US mirror, feel free to pick one from https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+archivemirrors
[17:49] <Nafallo> hggdh: that's true in areas where we have candidates for being mirrors.
[17:49] <micahg> nah, I'm ok with using the latest updates from canonical
[17:49] <micahg> I've tries the US mirrors
[17:49] <micahg> and I end up changing them every few days as they get stale
[17:49] <BUGabundo> for the record pt.archive points to Portugal too
[17:50] <jpds> BUGabundo: It doesn't.
[17:50] <BUGabundo> jpds: so instead of having a local mirror on the states, US users get it from this side of the ocean? crazy
[17:50] <BUGabundo> jpds: sure it does
[17:50] <BUGabundo> its from Coimbra
[17:50] <BUGabundo> check the IP
[17:50] <micahg> hggdh: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/198653/
[17:50]  * hggdh sits and watches
[17:51] <hggdh> micahg, perfect!
[17:51] <micahg> sorry BUGabundo
[17:51] <micahg> my DNS records don't concur
[17:51] <jpds> BUGabundo: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198654/
[17:52] <jpds> BUGabundo: And yes, the US does grab stuff straight for the UK.
[17:53]  * hggdh wonders -- again -- about the massive amount of data transfer, percolation, and grids
[17:53] <BUGabundo> jpds: when did that changed?
[17:53] <BUGabundo> it wasn't like that 2 weeks ago
[17:54] <Nafallo> BUGabundo: yes it was.
[17:55] <BUGabundo> I really would hoped I had hard data to tell you guys it wasnt
[17:56] <BUGabundo> I did check that my self several times!
[17:56] <BUGabundo> humm
[17:56] <BUGabundo> wait. I think I have a log
[17:56] <Nafallo> BUGabundo: releases or archive?
[17:56] <BUGabundo> http://www.robtex.com/dns/pt.archive.ubuntu.com.html
[17:56] <BUGabundo> go ti
[17:57] <BUGabundo> damn its now updated
[17:57] <BUGabundo> I can be very very wrong, but when I checked this a few weeks ago, it pointed to Coimbra, Portugal
[17:57] <Nafallo> oh. you switched from the discussion about .us to .pt... I didn't realise.
[17:57] <BUGabundo> Nafallo: I did!
[17:58] <BUGabundo> I never mention us, other to say it was crazy to do it over the atlantic
[17:58] <Nafallo> BUGabundo: sure.
[18:00] <hggdh> well, we could (er, can) also do it via the Pacific
[18:01] <BUGabundo> LOL
[19:00] <BUGabundo> in case you missed it: Ubuntu Global Jam NOW on #ubuntu-meeting
[19:27] <sebsebseb> it happended to me a  few weeks ago,   it happended to someone  else, and someone today.   These days  there seems to be a bug or something,  when people upgrade from 8.04 to 8.10,  and then lose ethernet connection.  Just wanted to report that, and I don't want to log in to my old launchpad and do it there.
[21:16] <BUGabundo> bencrisford: how did the meeting go? did you make it ?
[22:46] <kakemann> bug #380161 is fixed in the new version wich is in karmic, should this bug be closed then, or should it stay open until karmic is officially out?
[22:46] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 380161 in audacious "audacious won't 'display track information'" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/380161
[22:46] <dtchen> kakemann: marking it fix released is appropriate
[22:47] <bdmurray> dtchen: I was unable to recreate that ftbfs bug
[22:48] <dtchen> bdmurray: that's fine; the source package in question (haskell-x11-xft) has already been synced and built for karmic
[22:49] <hggdh> kakemann, if it is fixed on Karmic it can be closed Fix Released.
[22:49] <dtchen> (well, technically haskell-x11-xft was a no-change source upload, and xmonad-contrib was a sync)
[23:00] <kakemann> ok
[23:00] <kakemann> thanks
[23:10] <Ampelbein> kakemann: there is a standard response for that case (fixed in karmic): https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Fixed%20in%20Development%20release%20while%20still%20existing%20in%20a%20previous%20release
[23:59] <charles_> the things one learns from reading irc.  I'd never seen that /Bugs/Resonses page before
[23:59] <BUGabundo> charles_: ehehe