| UBUNTUTESTER | unblock me from #ubuntu channel | 14:25 |
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| Nafallo | UBUNTUTESTER: you want #ubuntu-ops | 14:26 |
| UBUNTUTESTER | no | 14:27 |
| === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo | ||
| evanrmurphy | Hi, I'm interested in creating the channel #ubuntu-es-l10n for the Ubuntu Spanish Translators team. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels advises me to seek approval for the namespace. Can I obtain such approval in this channel, or where should I petition? Thanks in advance. | 17:33 |
| tsimpson | nalioth, jussi01, Pricey, elky or Pici: IRCC ping ^ | 17:37 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: I'm around, but I'd like to discuss with one of the other IRCC members whether it should be #ubuntu-es-translators or #ubuntu-translators-es, as there is another localization team that uses the former, but in my opinion should be the latter. | 17:59 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: Thanks for your response. Would it not be possible to have the name #ubuntu-es-l10n? I know may be somewhat less straightforward than having "translators" in the name, but it create consistency with our mailing list (ubuntu-es-l10n@lists.ubuntu.com). | 18:09 |
| evanrmurphy | s/it create/it would create/ | 18:09 |
| evanrmurphy | s/know may/know it may/ | 18:11 |
| evanrmurphy | #ubuntu-es-translators | 18:13 |
| evanrmurphy | sorry, didn't mean to type that last line | 18:13 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: It looks like most of the localization mailing lists are named in the form ubuntu-l10n-$lang, we think it would make sense to follow that naming convention. We can help you setup a forward from #ubuntu-es-l10n to prevent people from getting confused though. | 18:40 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: So then would it be ubuntu-l10n-es in this case? | 18:43 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: yes | 18:44 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: Out of curiosity, I don't see any localization/translators channels following that convention on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels. Is it because they're unlisted? | 18:45 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: We were looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Localization+Lists to see what other localazation teams were using. | 18:47 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: By setting up a channel forward, you could tell people to join #ubuntu-es-l10n, but they'd actually end up in #ubuntu-l10n-es | 18:48 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: If the IRCC thinks #ubuntu-l10n-es will be better than #ubuntu-es-l10n for the broader consistency of channel naming, then we'll go with that. Yes, I think the channel forwarding will be very helpful, thank you. | 18:48 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: So now can I register the channel as it says on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels, or what's the next step in the process? I'd appreciate your or anyone's guidance here. | 19:24 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: Sure, go ahead and register #ubuntu-l10n-es, and if #ubuntu-es-l10n empties out we can register that too and setup a forward. | 19:29 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: OK, I've emptied #ubuntu-es-l10n, but when I tried to register #ubuntu-l10n-es, I got the following: ChanServ- #ubuntu-l10n-es is already registered to P3L|C4N0. | 20:11 |
| niko | rolf | 20:11 |
| * niko hides | 20:11 | |
| * erUSUL rotfl | 20:12 | |
| erUSUL | and hides | 20:12 |
| Pici | evanrmurphy: Sounds like you should speak to him about getting access there then. Looks like it was registered in late 2006 | 20:12 |
| niko | i love cybersqatting :) | 20:13 |
| m4v | well, i'm not surpriced.. | 20:13 |
| evanrmurphy | Pici: Right... any tips on tracking him/her down? /whois returned a "No such nick/channel" message. | 20:14 |
| niko | evanrmurphy: /msg memoserv send 'nick' message | 20:14 |
| evanrmurphy | niko: I'll give it a shot, thanks. | 20:15 |
| evanrmurphy | niko: I sub P3L|C4N0 for 'nick' and what I want to say for message? | 20:17 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: p3l|c4n0 is hard to reach, and not the most approachable person I have seen :( but he was online yerteday, so you might be lucky | 20:18 |
| m4v | yesterday* | 20:18 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: I guess you've talked to him before then? | 20:21 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: Thanks for jumping in, btw. | 20:22 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: yes, I did | 20:23 |
| niko | congrates. | 20:23 |
| erUSUL | m4v: lucky indeed... did not repond to a msg yesterday :| | 20:26 |
| m4v | erUSUL: I actually had a chat with him by query about the bot, yes, he mostly ignored me before | 20:27 |
| evanrmurphy | Is this guy famous or something? | 20:28 |
| niko | which bot m4v ? | 20:28 |
| erUSUL | evanrmurphy: *not the most approachable person I have seen* describes him quite well | 20:28 |
| m4v | niko: mine, the one we use in kubuntu-es and now in ubuntu-es, kubot it's is nick | 20:29 |
| evanrmurphy | erUSUL: Right, right. But has he had a history with the IRCC? | 20:30 |
| erUSUL | evanrmurphy: is the founder of #ubuntu-es | 20:31 |
| evanrmurphy | erUSUL: oh wow. OK, thanks. That helps | 20:31 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: I don't think we'll hang over the channel to you, but he should give you enough priviledges, mainly all the flags minus the founder one | 20:34 |
| m4v | so you won't have to hunt for him whenever you need to change for something | 20:35 |
| m4v | s/for something/something/ | 20:35 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: I see... I'll try to do some detective work on this in the next few days. I wonder if he's worked with our translation team, for instance. So do the purpose for his creation of the channel and its frequency of use have no bearing? | 20:37 |
| evanrmurphy | Regardless, thanks to m4v, erUSUL, Pici and niko for your help so far. | 20:38 |
| m4v | he probably did translations before, but I don't think is doing anything now | 20:39 |
| m4v | the channel wasn't used by over a year.. | 20:41 |
| m4v | really I don't like when founders neglect its channels like that | 20:43 |
| evanrmurphy | I guess he got IRCC's permission for the namespace at some point? | 20:46 |
| erUSUL | evanrmurphy: not sure if at that point there was an irc council ;P Seveas just handled everything himself ?? | 20:48 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: p3l|c4n0 does do translation work in Rosetta | 20:50 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: great, I just found his LP account | 20:51 |
| evanrmurphy | what do you know! He's actually part of our translations team lol | 20:53 |
| evanrmurphy | awfully quiet one on the mailing list | 20:53 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: Can you tell me how to become an operator for #ubuntu-l10n-es? Does the founder have to give me a certain flag before /msg chanserv op will work? | 22:19 |
| niko | yes | 22:20 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: you need of another operator with privileges for edit the channel's access list (the f flag) in this case, you need of pelicano since he's the only one with that flag. | 22:28 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: check /msg chanserv help flags | 22:30 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v: "/msg chanserv help flags" doesn't seem to return anything. Are you sure it's right? | 22:33 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v, niko: I sent a MemoServ message to P3L|C4N0 requesting the op flag, so I guess I'll just sit tight for a response. Thanks. | 22:34 |
| niko | take a coffee | 22:34 |
| niko | and hope | 22:34 |
| evanrmurphy | good idea man I could use another coffee | 22:34 |
| m4v | evanrmurphy: mm, does work here, probably chanserv's reply is redirected to somewhere else? the status window? a query? | 22:35 |
| niko | m4v: he have to /msg memoserv list | 22:36 |
| niko | to check sometimes | 22:36 |
| niko | or to go /away and /back | 22:37 |
| niko | memoserv notice him | 22:37 |
| nhandler | Here are is the result of /msg ChanServ help FLAGS if you are interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198777/ | 22:37 |
| evanrmurphy | thanks nhandler | 22:42 |
| nhandler | You're welcome evanrmurphy | 22:43 |
| evanrmurphy | m4v, niko: I still can't get it, but no worries since now I know the output. I'll try again later. | 22:50 |
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