[14:25] unblock me from #ubuntu channel [14:26] UBUNTUTESTER: you want #ubuntu-ops [14:27] no === Nafallo_ is now known as Nafallo [17:33] Hi, I'm interested in creating the channel #ubuntu-es-l10n for the Ubuntu Spanish Translators team. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels advises me to seek approval for the namespace. Can I obtain such approval in this channel, or where should I petition? Thanks in advance. [17:37] nalioth, jussi01, Pricey, elky or Pici: IRCC ping ^ [17:59] evanrmurphy: I'm around, but I'd like to discuss with one of the other IRCC members whether it should be #ubuntu-es-translators or #ubuntu-translators-es, as there is another localization team that uses the former, but in my opinion should be the latter. [18:09] Pici: Thanks for your response. Would it not be possible to have the name #ubuntu-es-l10n? I know may be somewhat less straightforward than having "translators" in the name, but it create consistency with our mailing list (ubuntu-es-l10n@lists.ubuntu.com). [18:09] s/it create/it would create/ [18:11] s/know may/know it may/ [18:13] #ubuntu-es-translators [18:13] sorry, didn't mean to type that last line [18:40] evanrmurphy: It looks like most of the localization mailing lists are named in the form ubuntu-l10n-$lang, we think it would make sense to follow that naming convention. We can help you setup a forward from #ubuntu-es-l10n to prevent people from getting confused though. [18:43] Pici: So then would it be ubuntu-l10n-es in this case? [18:44] evanrmurphy: yes [18:45] Pici: Out of curiosity, I don't see any localization/translators channels following that convention on https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat#Channels. Is it because they're unlisted? [18:47] evanrmurphy: We were looking at https://lists.ubuntu.com/#Localization+Lists to see what other localazation teams were using. [18:48] evanrmurphy: By setting up a channel forward, you could tell people to join #ubuntu-es-l10n, but they'd actually end up in #ubuntu-l10n-es [18:48] Pici: If the IRCC thinks #ubuntu-l10n-es will be better than #ubuntu-es-l10n for the broader consistency of channel naming, then we'll go with that. Yes, I think the channel forwarding will be very helpful, thank you. [19:24] Pici: So now can I register the channel as it says on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/CreatingChannels, or what's the next step in the process? I'd appreciate your or anyone's guidance here. [19:29] evanrmurphy: Sure, go ahead and register #ubuntu-l10n-es, and if #ubuntu-es-l10n empties out we can register that too and setup a forward. [20:11] Pici: OK, I've emptied #ubuntu-es-l10n, but when I tried to register #ubuntu-l10n-es, I got the following: ChanServ- #ubuntu-l10n-es is already registered to P3L|C4N0. [20:11] rolf [20:11] * niko hides [20:12] * erUSUL rotfl [20:12] and hides [20:12] evanrmurphy: Sounds like you should speak to him about getting access there then. Looks like it was registered in late 2006 [20:13] i love cybersqatting :) [20:13] well, i'm not surpriced.. [20:14] Pici: Right... any tips on tracking him/her down? /whois returned a "No such nick/channel" message. [20:14] evanrmurphy: /msg memoserv send 'nick' message [20:15] niko: I'll give it a shot, thanks. [20:17] niko: I sub P3L|C4N0 for 'nick' and what I want to say for message? [20:18] evanrmurphy: p3l|c4n0 is hard to reach, and not the most approachable person I have seen :( but he was online yerteday, so you might be lucky [20:18] yesterday* [20:21] m4v: I guess you've talked to him before then? [20:22] m4v: Thanks for jumping in, btw. [20:23] evanrmurphy: yes, I did [20:23] congrates. [20:26] m4v: lucky indeed... did not repond to a msg yesterday :| [20:27] erUSUL: I actually had a chat with him by query about the bot, yes, he mostly ignored me before [20:28] Is this guy famous or something? [20:28] which bot m4v ? [20:28] evanrmurphy: *not the most approachable person I have seen* describes him quite well [20:29] niko: mine, the one we use in kubuntu-es and now in ubuntu-es, kubot it's is nick [20:30] erUSUL: Right, right. But has he had a history with the IRCC? [20:31] evanrmurphy: is the founder of #ubuntu-es [20:31] erUSUL: oh wow. OK, thanks. That helps [20:34] evanrmurphy: I don't think we'll hang over the channel to you, but he should give you enough priviledges, mainly all the flags minus the founder one [20:35] so you won't have to hunt for him whenever you need to change for something [20:35] s/for something/something/ [20:37] m4v: I see... I'll try to do some detective work on this in the next few days. I wonder if he's worked with our translation team, for instance. So do the purpose for his creation of the channel and its frequency of use have no bearing? [20:38] Regardless, thanks to m4v, erUSUL, Pici and niko for your help so far. [20:39] he probably did translations before, but I don't think is doing anything now [20:41] the channel wasn't used by over a year.. [20:43] really I don't like when founders neglect its channels like that [20:46] I guess he got IRCC's permission for the namespace at some point? [20:48] evanrmurphy: not sure if at that point there was an irc council ;P Seveas just handled everything himself ?? [20:50] evanrmurphy: p3l|c4n0 does do translation work in Rosetta [20:51] m4v: great, I just found his LP account [20:53] what do you know! He's actually part of our translations team lol [20:53] awfully quiet one on the mailing list [22:19] m4v: Can you tell me how to become an operator for #ubuntu-l10n-es? Does the founder have to give me a certain flag before /msg chanserv op will work? [22:20] yes [22:28] evanrmurphy: you need of another operator with privileges for edit the channel's access list (the f flag) in this case, you need of pelicano since he's the only one with that flag. [22:30] evanrmurphy: check /msg chanserv help flags [22:33] m4v: "/msg chanserv help flags" doesn't seem to return anything. Are you sure it's right? [22:34] m4v, niko: I sent a MemoServ message to P3L|C4N0 requesting the op flag, so I guess I'll just sit tight for a response. Thanks. [22:34] take a coffee [22:34] and hope [22:34] good idea man I could use another coffee [22:35] evanrmurphy: mm, does work here, probably chanserv's reply is redirected to somewhere else? the status window? a query? [22:36] m4v: he have to /msg memoserv list [22:36] to check sometimes [22:37] or to go /away and /back [22:37] memoserv notice him [22:37] Here are is the result of /msg ChanServ help FLAGS if you are interested: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198777/ [22:42] thanks nhandler [22:43] You're welcome evanrmurphy [22:50] m4v, niko: I still can't get it, but no worries since now I know the output. I'll try again later.