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| jcastro | 5 minutes? | 18:54 |
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| evanrmurphy | jcastro: yep! | 18:55 |
| popey | ya! | 18:55 |
| jcastro | ah yes, popey is here | 18:56 |
| jcastro | did the sideys come along as well? | 18:56 |
| popey | hell yeah | 18:56 |
| popey | longer than ever | 18:56 |
| * popey is on the train tho | 18:56 | |
| popey | choo choo | 18:56 |
| jono | just grabbing some water before we begin | 18:56 |
| jcastro | 3 minutes! | 18:57 |
| Ging | i'm unhappy with my seat | 18:57 |
| * BUGabundo is ready | 18:58 | |
| Paul2 | Ging: I'll swap with you | 18:58 |
| evanrmurphy | Ging: you get what you pay for :P | 18:58 |
| dpm | hi everybody | 18:58 |
| Paul2 | move up all...me and ging are swapping | 18:58 |
| * popey stands up | 18:58 | |
| * popey tuts loudly | 18:58 | |
| evanrmurphy | hi dpm | 18:58 |
| axisys | just got a twitt about this meeting | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | hey akgraner | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | axisys: me ? | 18:59 |
| akgraner | BUGabundo, hey | 18:59 |
| BUGabundo | akgraner: ready to squash some bugs? | 18:59 |
| akgraner | BUGabundo, ready to participate somehow... | 18:59 |
| dpm | hey evanrmurphy | 19:00 |
| axisys | jonobacon | 19:00 |
| axisys | BUGabundo: from @jonobacon | 19:00 |
| jono | hey everyone@! | 19:00 |
| jono | oops | 19:00 |
| sebsebseb | hi | 19:00 |
| keffie_jayx | hey joaopinto | 19:00 |
| BUGabundo | hey jono | 19:01 |
| keffie_jayx | jono | 19:01 |
| jono | lets give it a few mins for people to arrive :) | 19:01 |
| keffie_jayx | darn tab... | 19:01 |
| akgraner | hi jono | 19:01 |
| pedro_ | hey folks | 19:01 |
| jono | heya BUGabundo keffie_jayx akgraner | 19:01 |
| jono | heya pedro_ | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | hey pedro_ joaopinto | 19:01 |
| joaopinto | hi keffie_jayx | 19:01 |
| sebsebseb | hi me :D | 19:01 |
| jono | what is the irc:// address for this session? | 19:01 |
| keffie_jayx | hey joaopinto ;) | 19:01 |
| joaopinto | :P | 19:01 |
| jono | need to tell a dude on Twitter | 19:01 |
| nhaines | Hi everyone! I'll just be lurking for today.... | 19:01 |
| Paul2 | itc://irc.freenode.net/#ubuntu-meeting | 19:01 |
| BUGabundo | jono irc://irc.ubuntu.com#ubuntu-meeting ? | 19:01 |
| jono | thanks Paul2 | 19:02 |
| jono | and BUGabundo :) | 19:02 |
| Ging | 1 of them has to be close | 19:02 |
| boredandblogging | hola | 19:02 |
| BUGabundo | hey boredandblogging | 19:02 |
| popey | wheeee | 19:02 |
| * popey is driving home | 19:02 | |
| akgraner | boredandblogging, howdy... | 19:02 |
| mhall119|work | hey boredandblogging | 19:02 |
| * pleia2 waves | 19:02 | |
| popey | (passenger) | 19:02 |
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| BUGabundo | popey: drive safely | 19:02 |
| jono | hehe | 19:02 |
| czajkowski | popey: thanks for clarifying | 19:02 |
| jono | alright | 19:02 |
| * BUGabundo waves back at pleia2 | 19:02 | |
| popey | :) | 19:02 |
| * akgraner waves to pleia2 | 19:02 | |
| linuxninja | Hello all... | 19:02 |
| Ursinha | hi all :) | 19:02 |
| jono | folks, take a beady eyed look at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam | 19:02 |
| nellery | hey all | 19:03 |
| Paul2 | weeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | hi Ursinha | 19:03 |
| * evanrmurphy beads his eyes | 19:03 | |
| jono | so, the other day I announced the new campaign | 19:03 |
| Ging | i tried twitter from the motorway last weekend, it was a bad idea | 19:03 |
| jono | and the idea is to kick an epic amount of ass | 19:03 |
| * BUGabundo tries to click on the link, but its running away | 19:03 | |
| jono | to put together a global event in which ubuntu fans get together to really make a difference | 19:03 |
| BUGabundo | hey nhandler | 19:03 |
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| jono | and to bring innocent bystanders into our devious little meetings to show them the ubuntu spirit | 19:04 |
| JayFo | muhahaha | 19:04 |
| jono | and to get them psyched about joining our community | 19:04 |
| mhall119|work | the great ubuntu conspiracy | 19:04 |
| BUGabundo | jono: and to kill LP yet again ? | 19:04 |
| jono | actually, that does need an evil laugh from everyone | 19:04 |
| jono | mwahahahaa | 19:04 |
| JayFo | heh | 19:04 |
| * jcastro crests his fingers. | 19:04 | |
| Ging | is there such a thing as an opensource conspiracy? | 19:04 |
| L1pe | hi guys | 19:04 |
| txwikinger_work | mwahahahaa | 19:04 |
| jono | hehe | 19:04 |
| popey | Can we have freaking laser beams? | 19:04 |
| infocop411 | Ging: good question | 19:04 |
| * JayFo is a trend setter | 19:04 | |
| SiDi | jono: then you shall package an irc script to trigger the evil laugh | 19:04 |
| jono | ok, so to make this event rock I think we need two things: | 19:04 |
| * txwikinger_work puts his tin hat on | 19:05 | |
| JayFo | one millon dollars! | 19:05 |
| nellery | beer? | 19:05 |
| jono | firstly.... | 19:05 |
| jono | EVENTS | 19:05 |
| jono | we need lots of people organizing events | 19:05 |
| jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events | 19:05 |
| evanrmurphy | sup L1pe ;) | 19:05 |
| kecskebak | Event handlers? | 19:05 |
| jono | I think we need to promote the Global Jam in our own community first to get a good roster of events | 19:05 |
| jono | there is no point us spreading the word outside the community if we have a handful of events | 19:05 |
| JayFo | I smell an excuse to party | 19:05 |
| infocop411 | how about a opensorce driver for goldeneye | 19:05 |
| BUGabundo | jono: already doing that on regular basis here! | 19:05 |
| jono | so, kudos to the Birmingham team for getting the first one on that page | 19:06 |
| jono | who else here is planning on organizing an event? | 19:06 |
| * JayFo raises his hand | 19:06 | |
| dariusH | Will add wales to the list now | 19:06 |
| Guest76971 | We will have an event in Chicago | 19:06 |
| conch | hey jono thanks!!! (q wright) | 19:06 |
| mhall119|work | #ubuntu-us-fl is having one | 19:06 |
| jono | conch, :) | 19:06 |
| jcastro | (even if you don't have a location nailed down, put pending or something in your entry) | 19:06 |
| L1pe | ubuntu-ar in planning one too | 19:06 |
| * evanrmurphy applauds the Birmingham team | 19:06 | |
| jcastro | (so we at least have an idea of how many teams plan to participate) | 19:07 |
| mhall119|work | at my house, actually | 19:07 |
| jono | if you folks could start making some plans this week and updating https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events that would be awesome | 19:07 |
| Guest76971 | jcastro: I'll add an entry for Chicago later today | 19:07 |
| pedro_ | I've commented the event the Tuesday during our monthly meeting, we only need to decide the date | 19:07 |
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| jcastro | sometimes it takes a while to get a venue etc, which is why we're starting as early as possible to give locos time | 19:08 |
| clickwir | I'm not much of an organizer, but I'd love to goto a meeting in my area. | 19:08 |
| sebsebseb | clickwir: same here I guess | 19:08 |
| popey | clickwir: encourage someone else to orgnise then :) | 19:08 |
| JayFo | yeah, I have been encountering the same for installfest | 19:08 |
| mhall119|work | jono: can we still count if our jam isn't on that weekend? | 19:08 |
| popey | clickwir: use powers of persuasion | 19:08 |
| jcastro | mhall119|work: you can have a jam whenever you want | 19:08 |
| nhandler1 | jcastro: One idea that we had was to setup some live video streams of the events | 19:09 |
| jcastro | yes, that would be a great idea? | 19:09 |
| * txwikinger_work still tries to find a way to have Internet and PCs available for a jam | 19:09 | |
| mhall119|work | jcastro: well I know that, but can we put ourself on the list for the global jam? | 19:09 |
| jcastro | what else do you guys think we should be encouraging people to do? | 19:09 |
| popey | jcastro: putting presentations online | 19:09 |
| jcastro | mhall119|work: sure, just make sure it's clear that you're early or late, as long as people don't get confused | 19:09 |
| infocop411 | or even a video uploaded later, if wifi isn't handy | 19:09 |
| JayFo | I think I am going to merge my installfest with a bug jam | 19:09 |
| popey | jcastro: like "how to package" in simple slides | 19:09 |
| popey | jcastro: and "how to find good bugs" | 19:09 |
| mhall119|work | cool, we're going to coincide ours with Florida Linux SHow | 19:09 |
| jcastro | JayFo: that would be great, because you can pool resources | 19:09 |
| BUGabundo | jcastro: I've read success stories of ppl that helped , even if they didn't knew what FOSS/Ubuntu was. | 19:09 |
| popey | jcastro: so at the events people can give short 10-15 mins talks | 19:09 |
| JayFo | right | 19:09 |
| nhandler1 | +1 popey. I think if we had pre-made presentations people could give, it would be great | 19:10 |
| BUGabundo | jcastro: we could get more of those too | 19:10 |
| JayFo | nhandler, I agree | 19:10 |
| jcastro | popey: yes, we should encourage people to put their presentations from last Jams under /Jams | 19:10 |
| jcastro | does anyone have presentations handy? | 19:10 |
| mhall119|work | BUGabundo: I can post one of those | 19:10 |
| jcastro | we can start putting them up there now | 19:10 |
| popey | jcastro: stick them in bzr ;) | 19:10 |
| nhandler1 | jcastro: I'm sure I could get a copy of the one j1mc gave at our release party | 19:10 |
| jcastro | popey: let's go with putting them on the wiki for now | 19:10 |
| popey | ok | 19:10 |
| jcastro | popey: I want to avoid having to tell people "go learn DVCS" when all they want is slides | 19:11 |
| jcastro | popey: probably a good idea to stick them in bzr for advanced users as well though | 19:11 |
| jono | sorry, folks, back | 19:11 |
| jcastro | ok | 19:11 |
| jono | got a quick call | 19:11 |
| jcastro | so so far we have | 19:11 |
| jono | I have submerged the phone in acid | 19:11 |
| jcastro | packaging, bug, and translation jams | 19:11 |
| jono | and docs | 19:11 |
| * jcastro adds to the wiki | 19:11 | |
| nhandler1 | jono: Could you maybe create a wiki page explaining how to setup a live video stream? | 19:11 |
| popey | jcastro / jono be good to get approved locos to _lead_ by example | 19:11 |
| jcastro | popey: \o/ | 19:12 |
| popey | put "pressure" on the approved ones that they should be showing the unapproved ones how to do it | 19:12 |
| JayFo | ++ | 19:12 |
| popey | and of course the unapproved ones can use this as ammuntion for going for approval later | 19:12 |
| JayFo | indeed | 19:12 |
| dpm | what about the translations jams, have you guys got any ideas or suggestions for them? | 19:12 |
| mhall119|work | there should be a Big Brothers/Big Sisters, only with approved/unapproved locos | 19:12 |
| jono | nhandler, I am not very knowledgeable on that - maybe someone else can | 19:12 |
| jono | popey, entirely agree | 19:12 |
| nhandler1 | jono: Maybe just outline what you did to get the At Home With Jono Bacon working | 19:13 |
| jdardon | nhandler1 theres a package called webcam-server you can do it with that | 19:13 |
| jono | nhandler, oh, sure, I can help with that | 19:13 |
| popey | be better if people turn up rather than just watch geeks on video | 19:13 |
| jono | so do you folks think we need a few sessions on organizing events/ | 19:13 |
| jono | I think that could be useful | 19:13 |
| jono | maybe by a team that organized an event at the global bug jam | 19:13 |
| nhandler1 | popey: That is true, but it would be cool getting to watch some other LoCos jam | 19:13 |
| popey | (although I appreciat that there is a certain type of person who enjoys watching geeks in a 320x200 window) | 19:13 |
| jcastro | we can definately do some loco-to-loco training between now and then "how to run a good bug jam" etc | 19:14 |
| BUGabundo | hey tgpraveen | 19:14 |
| tgpraveen | hey BUGabundo | 19:14 |
| czajkowski | nhandler1: it would actually, be kinda fun too | 19:14 |
| evanrmurphy | translations jams may be tricky some of the l10n teams are very dispersed. Maybe coalesce the best we can and be sure to meet on IRC. | 19:14 |
| tgpraveen | saw your msg and came | 19:14 |
| BUGabundo | jcastro: I'll try to push it to our LoCo | 19:14 |
| BUGabundo | we already have the place! | 19:14 |
| czajkowski | evanrmurphy: we're having a summer jam in 2 weeks bugs and translations, so we're gonna see how it goes. | 19:15 |
| BUGabundo | maybe we can make to events,... not sure | 19:15 |
| popey | czajkowski: mail the podcast with the details so we can promote it! | 19:15 |
| evanrmurphy | czajkowski: is it global? | 19:15 |
| czajkowski | evanrmurphy: nope Ireland | 19:15 |
| czajkowski | popey: okie dokie will do | 19:15 |
| dpm | czajkowski: that sounds brilliant. I'm looking forward to see how it goes | 19:15 |
| jono | so can we first decide if we think some IRC tuition sessions would be good? | 19:15 |
| jcastro | yes | 19:16 |
| jono | I am also planning on a tuition video on my vidcast | 19:16 |
| jcastro | for sure they are, we did them last time | 19:16 |
| jono | I can schedule that for next week | 19:16 |
| jcastro | put me in for 1 or 2 "how to run a successful jam" sessions | 19:16 |
| jono | who would like to do the IRC session? | 19:16 |
| jono | jcastro, great, can you schedule them today and announce them/ | 19:16 |
| jono | also update the https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam page | 19:16 |
| jcastro | yep | 19:16 |
| jono | cheers pal | 19:16 |
| nhandler1 | Could we also try to put up some example jam schedules on the wiki as well as some example material | 19:16 |
| jono | I will do the video thing on Wed next week | 19:16 |
| popey | jono: make sure you pimp the videos ahead of time! | 19:16 |
| jono | popey, will do for sure | 19:17 |
| jono | will blog and put on the website | 19:17 |
| popey | send to loco contacts | 19:17 |
| keffie_jayx | jono, I did mention marketing | 19:17 |
| jono | popey, will do | 19:17 |
| jono | keffie_jayx, yeah? | 19:17 |
| popey | thanks :) | 19:17 |
| JayFo | better put out some kind of notice today jono so I can get the word out here | 19:17 |
| promeme | hi from Guatemala | 19:17 |
| JayFo | :) | 19:17 |
| keffie_jayx | jono, lots of people interested in getting together and tidying stuff like spreadubutnu and the like | 19:17 |
| evanrmurphy | czajkowski: that does sound great. | 19:17 |
| jono | JayFo, I will announce today | 19:17 |
| JayFo | k | 19:17 |
| jono | keffie_jayx, ahhh yes | 19:17 |
| jono | I think thats totally cool for a jam | 19:18 |
| keffie_jayx | jono, could we explore the possibility of seeing how we can incorporate that post october UGJ | 19:18 |
| jono | keffie_jayx, totally | 19:18 |
| jono | I think with each event we expand where it make sense | 19:18 |
| jono | so, quick q | 19:18 |
| jono | who here has a blog? | 19:18 |
| jono | m/ | 19:19 |
| jono | o/ | 19:19 |
| evanrmurphy | hi promeme | 19:19 |
| popey | o/ | 19:19 |
| keffie_jayx | o/ | 19:19 |
| linuxninja | I have a blog | 19:19 |
| JayFo | akgraner does :-) | 19:19 |
| JayFo | heh | 19:19 |
| jdardon | promeme: 0/ | 19:19 |
| BUGabundo | JayFo: eheh | 19:19 |
| JayFo | hee hee | 19:19 |
| promeme | hi evanmurphy! | 19:19 |
| BUGabundo | jono: jneves has one too! | 19:19 |
| jdardon | 0/ | 19:19 |
| promeme | Here in Guatemala we have a Blog! | 19:19 |
| keffie_jayx | para preguntas en español pm a mi | 19:19 |
| nhandler1 | I can get a blog post out | 19:19 |
| promeme | jdardon 0/ | 19:19 |
| jono | can I ask you all to blog the Ubuntu Global Jam ? | 19:19 |
| jono | also remember it is NOT the Ubuntu Global 'Bug' Jam | 19:20 |
| L1pe | o/ | 19:20 |
| jneves | BUGabundo, jono: 3 actually: personal, ubuntu-pt and others | 19:20 |
| linuxninja | jono: I'll post something... | 19:20 |
| nhandler1 | jono: I'll get something up by the weekend | 19:20 |
| linuxninja | I won't be able to go to a "Jam" event or host one. | 19:20 |
| linuxninja | :( | 19:20 |
| promeme | I think we can support to post it into ubuntu-guatemala.org too! | 19:20 |
| jcastro | linuxninja: internet participation is always welcome | 19:20 |
| linuxninja | jcastro: Cool! | 19:21 |
| itnet7 | sure will blog about it! | 19:21 |
| patriconway | will there be a link on the main site, so that us who don't have blogs could tweet or facebook it? | 19:21 |
| jono | btw http://twitter.com/jadi | 19:21 |
| promeme | somebody else from Guatemala here? | 19:21 |
| jono | awesome, I think getting the word out on our blogs makes total sense | 19:21 |
| jcastro | jono: ! | 19:21 |
| nhandler1 | jono: That reminds me, microblogging is a great way to get the word out | 19:21 |
| jcastro | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam | 19:21 |
| jcastro | is the page you want to link to | 19:21 |
| jono | jcastro, no, look at the recent tweet on that feed | 19:21 |
| jono | @jonobacon IRC is blocked. Tell our regards to Ubuntu Global Jam from Iran. I'm twitting the #iranElection story from a Kubuntu machine :) | 19:22 |
| BUGabundo | nhandler over done already? | 19:22 |
| jono | :) | 19:22 |
| jcastro | yeah I saw that! | 19:22 |
| jono | ahhh | 19:22 |
| jono | ok, thanks all for blogging | 19:22 |
| jcastro | I was responding to patriconway | 19:22 |
| jcastro | who wanted a link | 19:22 |
| itnet7 | I think it's important for those with only twitter to take a moment to join identi.ca and link their accounts, two birds one stone! | 19:22 |
| jono | and microblogging is valid as nhaines says | 19:22 |
| promeme | is already any art/banner designed? | 19:22 |
| jono | nhandler rather | 19:22 |
| evanrmurphy | I'll make efforts to get Jam events in Texas and Pennsylvania (in TX now, PA in October) | 19:22 |
| jcastro | promeme: help welcome on that front! | 19:22 |
| pleia2 | yep, we'll have something in PA | 19:23 |
| pleia2 | er US-PA :) | 19:23 |
| jono | great to see more events on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam/Events appearing :) | 19:23 |
| jono | damn, we need to add a When column on the tables | 19:23 |
| jono | oops | 19:23 |
| keffie_jayx | jcastro, can we use the live-streaming ? | 19:23 |
| itnet7 | When we secure our teams involvement we'll post about Florida's events | 19:23 |
| jono | jcastro, could you go fix that for me now? | 19:23 |
| jcastro | experienced loco people: I have a added a list for prep tutorials, feel free to add more if you have something to share with people | 19:23 |
| jono | so people can specify which dates the jam will happen | 19:23 |
| jcastro | jono: on it | 19:23 |
| jono | jcastro, cheers dude | 19:24 |
| jcastro | keffie_jayx: yeah, live streaming would be awesome | 19:24 |
| * itnet7 goes to check to see if someone hasn't already added any | 19:24 | |
| mhall119|work | itnet7: too late | 19:24 |
| JayFo | can I put more than one Jam jono or jcastro? I want to do a preliminary Jam to work any bugs out before Oct. | 19:24 |
| * keffie_jayx though of identi.ca live-streming, uds style | 19:24 | |
| jono | JayFo, do as many as you like! | 19:24 |
| jono | :) | 19:24 |
| itnet7 | Thanks mhall119|work !! | 19:24 |
| JayFo | cool :) | 19:25 |
| mhall119|work | itnet7: feel free to prettify it with proper links and such | 19:25 |
| jono | I think what we really need help with here is helping teams understand how to do a jab | 19:25 |
| mhall119|work | I didn't want to keep the page open for editing for any longer than necessary | 19:25 |
| itnet7 | Will do when some of the wiki activity dies down | 19:25 |
| evanrmurphy | hola fmolinero | 19:25 |
| linuxninja | It seems to me these "Jam" events are for geeks and not end users.... | 19:26 |
| JayFo | not mine linuxninja | 19:26 |
| linuxninja | I would like to see more focus on the end user who doesn't know anything | 19:26 |
| JayFo | I'm doing a combi-installfest too | 19:26 |
| linuxninja | JayFo: Good | 19:26 |
| conch | end users can triage many simple bugs | 19:26 |
| mhall119|work | build days/install fests are good ways to get non-geeks involved | 19:26 |
| JayFo | I think the best way to find doc bugs is for new people to work through them | 19:26 |
| BUGabundo | linuxninja: I've read success stories of ppl that helped , even if they didn't knew what FOSS/Ubuntu was. | 19:26 |
| patriconway | installfests are fun!! | 19:27 |
| * jcastro wrecks the wifi | 19:27 | |
| jcastro | fixing! | 19:27 |
| JayFo | :-O | 19:27 |
| popey | we had a guy turn up at ours who wanted his computer fixed :) | 19:27 |
| JayFo | hahaha | 19:27 |
| popey | completely new to ubuntu | 19:27 |
| jono | ok, I am going to schedule my video now so we can announce, one sec | 19:27 |
| jcastro | you can even do hardware testing | 19:27 |
| jcastro | so like, if a non geek shows up with a laptop | 19:28 |
| JayFo | that is the plan jcastro | 19:28 |
| BUGabundo | popey: today we have a LoCoTeam and a brand new guy is poping by | 19:28 |
| jcastro | fire up a live CD | 19:28 |
| jcastro | get info, submit, done! | 19:28 |
| JayFo | yep :) | 19:28 |
| JayFo | great minds... | 19:28 |
| linuxninja | BUGabundo: I think good ideas can come from just about anywhere | 19:28 |
| akgraner | I was thinking an all things ubuntu event...be flexible and just go with it.... | 19:29 |
| promeme | how do we shall confirm our participation in this global jam guys? | 19:29 |
| JayFo | akgraner, good idea | 19:29 |
| jcastro | promeme: add an event to the page | 19:29 |
| JayFo | we can do the quick talks like jcastro was saying' | 19:29 |
| gotunandan | linuxninja: i think end users can get involved in 5-a-day | 19:29 |
| jcastro | promeme: we don't track per person, just groups | 19:29 |
| JayFo | while we do install/doc/hardware | 19:29 |
| promeme | ok, I guess JDardon can do it, so, we are aboard as Guatemala Team! | 19:29 |
| gotunandan | linuxninja: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day | 19:30 |
| linuxninja | gotunandan: I'll check that out | 19:30 |
| promeme | ah, jcastro, understood, I mean as Guatemala Team... jeje | 19:30 |
| jcastro | no worries | 19:31 |
| jcastro | are there any other things you guys might need from us? | 19:31 |
| conch | you need a brief "how to do it" presentation at the start of each day because different people turn up | 19:31 |
| jcastro | as far as helping you make an awesome evetn | 19:31 |
| linuxninja | I think too many people see Ubuntu/Linux as a geek thing. While this "Jam" event is very cool and will help Ubuntu. I think we need more end user events of some kind. | 19:31 |
| conch | linuxninja: you are absolutely right | 19:31 |
| mhall119|work | did anyone post the Running an Event link? If not, here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams | 19:32 |
| BUGabundo | linuxninja: a room filled with PCs is always geek | 19:32 |
| jcastro | mhall119|work: I just added the Jams header to the Global Page, so the instructions should be more obvious now | 19:32 |
| evanrmurphy | linuxninja: I agree as well. But I think the Jam should go on, we should just get some end-user events going on too. | 19:32 |
| war_ | mhall119|work: sorry to interfere, but the content of this link is completely insufficient | 19:32 |
| promeme | everyone has a geek inside! | 19:32 |
| WanderingKnight | linuxninja: over here in Argentina team we've been seeing lots of end users but very few able geeks willing to actively participate | 19:32 |
| linuxninja | BUGabundo: These days everyone has a computer. Not everyone has Ubunut on it though.... | 19:32 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: we always encorage people to run jams on their own whenever they want | 19:33 |
| WanderingKnight | I believe it's very good to try something like this | 19:33 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: some do, some don't, some do but not tell people, etc. | 19:33 |
| JayFo | linuxninja, that is a shame :) | 19:33 |
| mhall119|work | war_: is there something you'd like to add to it, or something more you need? | 19:33 |
| jono | ok | 19:33 |
| gotunandan | linuxninja: the word needs to get out though, even to end users, because there might be users who want to help but do not know of it | 19:33 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: part of the reason we do a global one is for teams to become confident in running a jam so they can do so on their own if they want | 19:33 |
| itnet7 | linuxninja: there is nothing stopping you from holding a "meet and greet" Jam | 19:33 |
| sebsebseb | I think end user training is important, for people that aren't that technical | 19:33 |
| linuxninja | WanderingKnight: It's hard to get people to participate | 19:33 |
| popey | linuxninja: thats always the way | 19:33 |
| jono | http://www.ustream.tv/channel/at-home-with-jono-bacon on Wed 24th June at 6pm UTC I will do a training video | 19:33 |
| war_ | mhall119|work: i would like to see a clear indication of what the jam should provide | 19:33 |
| jono | spread the word :) | 19:33 |
| jcastro | gotunandan: right, that's why we're starting to plan in june, we have months to get the word out | 19:34 |
| evanrmurphy | jcastro: good to know, thanks. | 19:34 |
| war_ | what shall be achieved and how to do that | 19:34 |
| itnet7 | linuxninja: buy them pizza, they will come :-) | 19:34 |
| mhall119|work | war_: I don't think there is a standard of what a jam should provide | 19:34 |
| Ging | do i get pizza? | 19:34 |
| mhall119|work | or achieve | 19:34 |
| linuxninja | itnet7: True.. Pizza brings people in | 19:34 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: myself and daniel are always available to help out-of-band jams | 19:34 |
| promeme | get some models to promote! | 19:34 |
| popey | Ging: if you buy it | 19:34 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: like if you need an IRC training session or something | 19:34 |
| mhall119|work | itnet7: and cupcakes | 19:34 |
| war_ | mhall119|work: even if there is no standard, there should be a clear proceeding that users like the ones i represent can follow | 19:34 |
| Ging | if they organised a global bug jam in bbq season that might be fun | 19:35 |
| itnet7 | Ging come to a Florida event, we'll give you some pizza... mhall119|work, almost forgot cupcakes work too! | 19:35 |
| war_ | mhall119|work: ubuntu austria loco wants to participate but has no clue where to start | 19:35 |
| jcastro | war_: right, that's why we have these meetings. :D | 19:35 |
| war_ | i tried to follow it but actually i do not understand what you talk about | 19:35 |
| mhall119|work | Ging: there will be BBQ at the Florida jam | 19:35 |
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| promeme | hey war_ look at this https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Jams | 19:36 |
| war_ | you want to include users, but what should they do | 19:36 |
| war_ | read documentation? correct it? state its unclear? | 19:36 |
| mhall119|work | war_: talk, eat, show off their desktop, whatever | 19:36 |
| war_ | promeme: I did read the pages | 19:36 |
| jcastro | war_: each jam page has instructions | 19:36 |
| czajkowski | itnet7: can I come :) | 19:36 |
| jcastro | we need to develop those pages to be useful for people | 19:36 |
| itnet7 | czajkowski: you are always welcome! :-) | 19:37 |
| war_ | jcastro: if they are clear to you, fine, but not for my people | 19:37 |
| czajkowski | itnet7: you may regret saying that :) | 19:37 |
| war_ | we do not know how to contribute | 19:37 |
| mhall119|work | czajkowski: no he won't, because it's not going to be at his house | 19:37 |
| promeme | well, so do you have any doubt? maybe we can help you exactly on what you need... | 19:37 |
| evanrmurphy | jcastro: thx again | 19:37 |
| itnet7 | mhall119|work: righto! | 19:37 |
| limb_clock | hello :) | 19:37 |
| JayFo | war_, you can do something as simple as install | 19:37 |
| rowinggolfer | hang on... this jam is planned for 2-4th of October. that only allows for 25 days for liver to recover before the launch of Karmic. A little too close? | 19:37 |
| limb_clock | jono: thanks for the link in the twitter | 19:38 |
| war_ | JayFo: we had install parties | 19:38 |
| JayFo | rowinggolfer, not if you keep drinking for the 25 :) | 19:38 |
| JayFo | war_, did you file bugs for issues you encountered? | 19:38 |
| mhall119|work | war_: can you work with another LoCo close by that has been doing this for a while? | 19:38 |
| itnet7 | war_: I would suggest you wait until the list populates a little more and then join some other loco channels and see if we can help you | 19:38 |
| war_ | as I understand, jams are here to fix something or make things go smoother | 19:38 |
| jono | limb_clock, :) | 19:38 |
| linuxninja | rowinggolfer: Hahaha... And wow! Were that close to the launch of Karmic... | 19:38 |
| itnet7 | come up with some ideas! | 19:38 |
| limb_clock | jono: also, it's great that you're on FLOSS weekly :) | 19:39 |
| jono | limb_clock, thanks! :) | 19:39 |
| conch | war_: also to resolve or diagnose existing bugs | 19:39 |
| jono | I think we might need some tutorial sessions earlier jcastro | 19:39 |
| promeme | bye guys, need to lunch right now... let's keep on track! | 19:39 |
| limb_clock | jono: it was the first podcast concerning FLOSS stuff i got on my iPod :D | 19:39 |
| jcastro | jono: I can do more | 19:39 |
| JayFo | 'FLOSSing with Bacon' :-P | 19:39 |
| war_ | conch: how can we resolve bugs, I personally gave up even bothering | 19:39 |
| limb_clock | strange really | 19:39 |
| jono | limb_clock, awesome :) | 19:39 |
| jono | jcastro, I think some in a few weeks would be wise | 19:39 |
| limb_clock | i have the same first name as Leo Laporte | 19:39 |
| limb_clock | ;) | 19:39 |
| jcastro | jono: ok | 19:39 |
| promeme | estoy empezando a generar algo de info de como hacer el evento, se las comparto en espanol luego... | 19:39 |
| jono | as we need people to get events organized soon | 19:39 |
| rowinggolfer | Speaking of Karmix (which I acknowledge we weren't) I am concerned that 9.10 is delayed 3 days. 9.11 has a completely different connotation. | 19:40 |
| conch | war_: attempt to reproduce or else ask for more information | 19:40 |
| limb_clock | events? | 19:40 |
| promeme | por si alguno lo necesita... | 19:40 |
| promeme | have a nice day! | 19:40 |
| limb_clock | i use ubuntu 9.04 here. with a SiS chip | 19:40 |
| limb_clock | the SiS chip that isn't supported 3D acceleration wise | 19:40 |
| war_ | conch: i think we can take that on our agenda | 19:40 |
| jono | ok, lets not take this off topic | 19:41 |
| war_ | still, maybe this can be added to the Jam webpage | 19:41 |
| akgraner | So as I understand this event we can make this Jam anything ubuntu we want based on our loco and their needs and skill sets? | 19:41 |
| jono | are there any other things we think we need to discuss to encourage teams to organize events for the Global Jam? | 19:41 |
| jono | akgraner, yep | 19:41 |
| akgraner | ok great | 19:41 |
| conch | war_: it helps if people work in pairs on areas/ applications that they know a little about | 19:41 |
| jcastro | war_: add it! | 19:41 |
| war_ | jcastro: add what to what? | 19:42 |
| evanrmurphy | Question: Is the UGJ intended specifically for work on Karmic, or whatever the organizers decide? (Oct. 2-4 is quite close to release date, is it not?) | 19:42 |
| jcastro | war_: add what you feel you need to the pages | 19:42 |
| jono | jcastro, you totally bust my tables :P | 19:42 |
| jcastro | jono: sorry, should have waited until after everyone was trying to add their event. :-/ | 19:42 |
| war_ | jcastro: i have questions not answers yet | 19:42 |
| BUGabundo | evanrmurphy: usually work is done on "that" moment in time | 19:42 |
| jono | jcastro, no worries, we can fix it | 19:42 |
| BUGabundo | its a JAM | 19:43 |
| BUGabundo | you can squash bugs, help ppl upgrade,install etc | 19:43 |
| war_ | I will discuss this with our team and set up an agenda | 19:43 |
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| jono | war_, great :) | 19:43 |
| rowinggolfer | 2-4 of october is also close to lugradio live. I fear for the health of UK ubuntu users this october. | 19:43 |
| jcastro | heh | 19:44 |
| war_ | jono: does it have to be october 2 - 4? | 19:44 |
| popey | :) | 19:44 |
| mhall119|work | it's also the week before Atlanta Linux Fest, and a few weeks before Florida Linux Show | 19:44 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: you'll cope | 19:44 |
| war_ | I got that from your blog | 19:44 |
| popey | there is now way to find a weekend that doesn't clash with _something_ | 19:44 |
| rowinggolfer | popey - I'll be looking down the barrel of a divorce | 19:44 |
| jono | war_, yes its agreed now | 19:44 |
| jono | popey, exactly | 19:44 |
| txwikinger_work | and a few weeks before Ontario Linuxfest | 19:45 |
| jono | and if an event is happening, do a jam at the event | 19:45 |
| jono | thats what the california did at SCALE :) | 19:45 |
| war_ | fine, ubuntu-at is part | 19:45 |
| mhall119|work | jono: jcastro said I could list an event outside of that weekend, as long as I specify | 19:45 |
| evanrmurphy | BUGabundo: are you saying it's a ripe time to get together because it's so close to release? | 19:45 |
| Gareth | yay. SCALE. | 19:45 |
| jono | mhall119|work, sure :) | 19:45 |
| * Gareth creeps back to his corner | 19:45 | |
| mhall119|work | +1 Scale | 19:45 |
| gotunandan | war_: the global jam is on october 2 -4 , but any of those events can be carried out at anytime as well, it always helps ! | 19:45 |
| jcastro | for example the Berlin LoCo's has Jams like every week | 19:46 |
| jcastro | we encourage that! | 19:46 |
| jcastro | as many as you want to have | 19:46 |
| itnet7 | jono maybe it would be good to add a mentoring availalbe column as well, to let other loco's know who is willing to be contacted for advice on the Jams | 19:46 |
| jono | ok, i think we are about done | 19:46 |
| King_Arthur | Now that Empathy has voice/video we can now get us older (45) people to help out. Sign Language is easier than typing. | 19:46 |
| conch | it's good if everyone does it at the same time because you can irc and stream video to other groups | 19:46 |
| jono | itnet7, thats a great idea | 19:46 |
| BUGabundo | we have a LoCoteam meeting open to public every month in Portugal | 19:46 |
| jcastro | itnet7: that's brilliant | 19:46 |
| jono | anything else to discuss? | 19:47 |
| jcastro | jono: announce the next irc meeting | 19:47 |
| rowinggolfer | jono - I can fully understand the benefit of local "jams". I would love to organise one here (North of Scotland). However, in what way is this a global event? how would "jammers" in Inverness be aware that they are part of a larger event? | 19:47 |
| jneves | rowinggolfer: they'll interact with others on launchpad? | 19:47 |
| jcastro | jono: monthly on the 3rd thursday is what I have written down | 19:47 |
| mhall119|work | is there a twitter/identi.ca tag to use for the events? | 19:47 |
| jcastro | jono: that'll give everyone time to go do awesome stuff, then we can all reconvene and deal with problems, etc. | 19:47 |
| jcastro | mhall119|work: we defined some on the page last time, feel free to add whatever makes sense | 19:48 |
| jcastro | mhall119|work: also, flickr tags as well | 19:48 |
| jono | rowinggolfer, its global in that we have events happening all over the world on the same weekend | 19:48 |
| rowinggolfer | jneves. that's not a crowd puller IMHO. | 19:48 |
| jcastro | we want people to take as many pictures as possible | 19:48 |
| jono | jcastro, yep | 19:48 |
| jono | yes, third thursday of each month at this time we will have a meeting | 19:48 |
| jcastro | rowinggolfer: people will be in and out of IRC all weekend, it gets a nice global vibe to it | 19:48 |
| jono | ok, thanks everyone | 19:49 |
| jono | so, if everyone good: | 19:49 |
| jono | * blog the event | 19:49 |
| jono | * microblog it | 19:49 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: we could edit the lifestream for !ubuntu, !bugjam, etc... | 19:49 |
| jono | * tell your communities | 19:49 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: yep! | 19:49 |
| jono | * organize an event :) | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo | mhall119|work: #GBJ? | 19:49 |
| rowinggolfer | impressive - I put "october 2009" into google, and no 4 hit is ubuntu jam. | 19:49 |
| mhall119|work | BUGabundo: it's not just a bug jam | 19:49 |
| jcastro | I idle in #ubuntu-localteams if anyone has questions | 19:49 |
| itnet7 | BUGabundo: just what I was UGJ | 19:49 |
| evanrmurphy | sorry, I had this one question: is the UGJ kind of intended for work on Karmic more than anything? | 19:49 |
| BUGabundo | mhall119|work: #UbuntGlobalJam ? | 19:50 |
| * itnet7 thinks that didn't come out right | 19:50 | |
| evanrmurphy | right before the release? | 19:50 |
| jcastro | evanrmurphy: whatever helps the project. | 19:50 |
| itnet7 | #UGJ | 19:50 |
| evanrmurphy | jcastro: ok gotcha | 19:50 |
| mhall119|work | #UGJ or #UbuntuGlobalJam would work | 19:50 |
| itnet7 | Short and concise remember 140 characters | 19:50 |
| itnet7 | :-) | 19:50 |
| Technoviking | #ucj FTW! | 19:50 |
| mhall119|work | +1 #UGJ + 136 other characters | 19:50 |
| itnet7 | and a group too boot! | 19:50 |
| jdardon | jono: could you help us with a sponsor for the Guatemalan team to make this jams? | 19:51 |
| itnet7 | s/too/to | 19:51 |
| evanrmurphy | rowinggolfer: that is really impressive | 19:51 |
| Technoviking | We need a greasemonkey script to convert LP<bugnumber> in identi.ca to the bug LP link:) | 19:51 |
| rowinggolfer | jono - I'm right behind you buddy. good luck with this. | 19:51 |
| akgraner | swwweeeeetttt!!! this should be fun! | 19:51 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: file a bug on gwibber for that please. | 19:52 |
| jono | thanks folks! | 19:52 |
| jcastro | Technoviking: and assign it to me | 19:52 |
| jono | gonna be awesome! | 19:52 |
| jcastro | thanks everyone! | 19:52 |
| Technoviking | jcastro: got it | 19:52 |
| evanrmurphy | thanks jono and jcastro | 19:52 |
| jcastro | also, feel free to update the wiki pages with info | 19:52 |
| jono | jdardon, now sure I could help sponsor, sorry | 19:52 |
| jono | thanks evanrmurphy :) | 19:52 |
| jcastro | they're now "ours", so if stuff needs fixing, go ahead | 19:52 |
| rowinggolfer | I don't like jam that much. too sweet. | 19:53 |
| patriconway | rowinggolfer did you notice that we're several links above windows 7 on that search | 19:53 |
| jdardon | jono: thanks if you know somebody could do it would be great | 19:53 |
| jono | jdardon, will do :) | 19:53 |
| kn100 | hey guys | 19:53 |
| JayFo | thanks jono and jcastro | 19:53 |
| jono | JayFo, thanks! | 19:54 |
| jcastro | ok, fixing the events table, no one edit please! | 19:54 |
| rowinggolfer | patriconway: seriously, ubuntu must have friends in high places at google. | 19:54 |
| conch | thanks too jono, jcastro | 19:54 |
| evanrmurphy | rowinggolfer: instead of jam, try fresh berries with a bit of honey | 19:54 |
| evanrmurphy | so good | 19:54 |
| rowinggolfer | ubuntu global berries and honey. that'll work | 19:54 |
| kn100 | ubuntu-fresh-berrys | 19:54 |
| patriconway | rowinggolfer well there is that rumor that quite a few of the techs at google run a remixed ubuntu with tighter integration for their cloud etc | 19:54 |
| mhall119|work | UbuntuGlobalFreshBerriesWithABitOfHoney is too long | 19:54 |
| popey | i read that as "try fresh batteries with a bit of honey" and wondered if evanrmurphy was a robot | 19:55 |
| * brobostigon wonders if he is allowed to speak? | 19:55 | |
| popey | patriconway: it's not a rumour, it's well known Google Corporate run Ubuntu internally | 19:55 |
| itnet7 | brobostigon: it's an open meeting why wouldn't you be able to speak? | 19:55 |
| evanrmurphy | popey: you must hang out with the coolest robots, or at least the most healthy ones | 19:55 |
| popey | :) | 19:55 |
| brobostigon | itnet7: oh, i didnt know, thanks, :) | 19:56 |
| evanrmurphy | popey: oh I see the "batteries" now lol | 19:56 |
| itnet7 | brobostigon: no worries | 19:56 |
| brobostigon | itnet7: thanks much. | 19:56 |
| jdardon | ok thanks jono jcastro and everyone! have a great day | 19:56 |
| rowinggolfer | I still think... if I am going to organise a local ubuntu party... I'll wait for karmic launch. | 19:57 |
| rowinggolfer | I just think that's more to celebrate | 19:57 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: this isnt a party | 19:57 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: it's to get work done | 19:57 |
| clickwir | rowinggolfer: but people need help all the time. | 19:57 |
| mhall119|work | rowinggolfer: you're not limited to just one | 19:57 |
| rowinggolfer | oh... it's not for new users? | 19:58 |
| Ging | will there be cake? | 19:58 |
| Grantbow | working while having fun doing it | 19:58 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: read the fine wiki :) | 19:58 |
| brobostigon | i was planning a launch party for 9.10, in midlands,uk, now how far away are they going to be from eachother? | 19:58 |
| mhall119|work | the cake is a lie | 19:58 |
| mhall119|work | or so I hear | 19:58 |
| kn100 | the cake is a lie | 19:58 |
| BUGabundo | brobostigon: a few weeks | 19:58 |
| popey | brobostigon: karmic releases end of october, jam is at start of october | 19:58 |
| * Ging sulks | 19:58 | |
| Ging | so it's true | 19:58 |
| kn100 | what is ubuntu bug jam exactly? | 19:58 |
| rowinggolfer | all I've read is http://fridge.ubuntu.com/node/1869 | 19:58 |
| brobostigon | popey: ok, good planning, | 19:58 |
| popey | kn100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuGlobalJam# | 19:59 |
| kn100 | popey just saw that | 19:59 |
| kn100 | lol | 19:59 |
| brobostigon | BUGabundo: that could mean two, i could plan that. | 19:59 |
| popey | kn100: It's not a bug jam, it's just Ubuntu Global Jam | 19:59 |
| kn100 | cool | 19:59 |
| popey | Release parties and Jams tend to be _different_ types of events | 19:59 |
| czajkowski | popey: clearly having a blonde moment! Sorry! | 19:59 |
| popey | :) czajkowski | 19:59 |
| akgraner | rowinggolfer, it's for anyone and everyone not just one group of users.... | 20:00 |
| rowinggolfer | popey... ok. I got confused by the "organise a event" thread | 20:00 |
| brobostigon | i have a clear idea, og inviting all the enginers in my area to bugjam, however release party, anyone can come. | 20:00 |
| popey | brobostigon: anyone can come to both! | 20:00 |
| rowinggolfer | brobostigon: but jono stated categorically that this was NOT a bug jam | 20:01 |
| brobostigon | popey: good point, its only big searching and fixing, :), agreed. | 20:01 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: only because it's not _just_ bugs, its other things too | 20:01 |
| jono | rowinggolfer, bug jam is *part* of it | 20:01 |
| jono | its not *only* a bug jam | 20:01 |
| rowinggolfer | ok.. sorry for being dense. | 20:01 |
| brobostigon | rowinggolfer: ok, " Ubuntu Global Jam" | 20:01 |
| kn100 | wish i had the knowledge to help | 20:01 |
| itnet7 | brobostigon: rowinggolfer: it's like pick your poison, your free to do more than bugs or just bugs :-) | 20:02 |
| brobostigon | kn100: we all help in out own way, we all do something different and in different ways to help. | 20:02 |
| brobostigon | our* | 20:02 |
| popey | kn100: you'd be surprised | 20:02 |
| brobostigon | itnet7: that makes sense, | 20:02 |
| popey | kn100: people can turn up and get going very quickly! | 20:03 |
| popey | it just takes a little bit of coaching | 20:03 |
| kn100 | i mean actually learning c for examps | 20:03 |
| kn100 | example* | 20:03 |
| popey | you dont need to know or learn c to contribute | 20:03 |
| Grantbow | that's quite an example - what are you interested in working on? | 20:03 |
| kn100 | well thats what i wanna know, how can i contribute | 20:04 |
| popey | kn100: watch jonos video stream next wednesday and find out | 20:04 |
| czajkowski | kn100: testing, report bugs, translations | 20:04 |
| rowinggolfer | I would like to get rid of all the python deprecation warnings that python 2.6 has brought to ubuntu. | 20:04 |
| popey | kn100: the link I pasted does actually list stuff | 20:04 |
| rowinggolfer | that's surely doable | 20:04 |
| czajkowski | kn100: bug triaging, like figuring out all the bugs there do they need to be there, or do they need more info in them | 20:05 |
| kn100 | testing i can do, reporting bugs doubt i can since i have never found one believe it or not, and translations, definate non | 20:05 |
| kn100 | i wanna get into writing programs | 20:05 |
| kn100 | but python QT and GTK got me cowering lol | 20:05 |
| * rowinggolfer notes jono's video date of 24thJune 6pm UTC. | 20:06 | |
| kn100 | 24th june | 20:06 |
| kn100 | what day is that | 20:07 |
| kn100 | wednesday? | 20:07 |
| rowinggolfer | is there a google type calendar for this thing? | 20:07 |
| popey | rowinggolfer: yes, fridge has a calender | 20:07 |
| popey | *calendar | 20:07 |
| kn100 | j just use tomboy | 20:07 |
| kn100 | tomboy notes are so helpful | 20:07 |
| kn100 | saved my butt quite a few times | 20:07 |
| rowinggolfer | so _that's_ why it's called a fridge. I never got that. | 20:08 |
| kn100 | whats better to learn, python or c for end user programming | 20:09 |
| popey | jono / jcastro are we done here? | 20:09 |
| kn100 | ok.. on the last bug jams success blog | 20:13 |
| kn100 | in the florida picture | 20:13 |
| kn100 | in the ireland picture even | 20:13 |
| kn100 | theres a guy using a macbook o_0 | 20:13 |
| popey | so? | 20:13 |
| kn100 | lol | 20:13 |
| popey | Macs run linux | 20:13 |
| kn100 | yup | 20:14 |
| czajkowski | kn100: aye not mac os on it | 20:14 |
| czajkowski | actual Ubuntu on it, I think | 20:14 |
| kn100 | is it you czajkowski | 20:14 |
| czajkowski | kn100: but I was sitting beside the guy who had it | 20:14 |
| kn100 | http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3395/3299129303_a85e43c5a3.jpg | 20:14 |
| * brobostigon leaves | 20:15 | |
| * markie- leaves | 20:15 | |
| kn100 | i wish there was more info on how ubuntu is coded, how to bug fix, etc | 20:15 |
| popey | there is | 20:15 |
| kn100 | google isnt finding much | 20:15 |
| kn100 | or maybe thats me | 20:15 |
| dariusH | kn100: try the ubuntu wiki's there's alot on there | 20:16 |
| popey | kn100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs | 20:16 |
| kn100 | i think i am going to triage | 20:16 |
| kn100 | ern where the hell is the ubuntu bugs part where people can triage? | 20:19 |
| gotunandan | kn100: you can get involved in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/5-A-Day | 20:20 |
| kn100 | saw that | 20:20 |
| stefanlsd | kn100: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted | 20:20 |
| kn100 | ubuntu community ftw | 20:20 |
| BUGabundo | bye | 20:21 |
| kn100 | stefanlsd: erm that is turning .tar.gz SC into .deb packages right? | 20:21 |
| stefanlsd | kn100: 1 part of it. anything to do with the dev side of Ubuntu. ie. fixing bugs, patches etc | 20:22 |
| kn100 | oh i see | 20:22 |
| gotunandan | kn100: packaging is what the MOTU members do, they handle the universe repository | 20:25 |
| kn100 | i think i'm going to leave that for now | 20:25 |
| gotunandan | kn100: but the .deb packages are not only sources, they contain the actual binary files too | 20:25 |
| kn100 | do any of you guys package? | 20:26 |
| popey | i have done a little | 20:30 |
| kn100 | hard? | 20:31 |
| itnet7 | kn100: some are a lot more difficult than others | 20:32 |
| kn100 | ok, erm. i think i am going to stick with attempting to learn python | 20:33 |
| kn100 | then i can write my own programs lol | 20:33 |
| * mhall119|work is learning python | 20:33 | |
| kn100 | mhall119|work: worked out GUI programs yet? | 20:33 |
| mhall119|work | not yet, but planning on doing some pygtk | 20:34 |
| itnet7 | kn100: that wasn't said to discourage you :-) | 20:34 |
| kn100 | itnet7 i know | 20:34 |
| itnet7 | coolo | 20:34 |
| kn100 | but it looks a like a little too much for me to handls | 20:34 |
| kn100 | so i am going to continue to try and figure out python | 20:34 |
| mhall119|work | python is pretty easy to get going with | 20:35 |
| mhall119|work | GTK, not so mcuh | 20:35 |
| kn100 | yeah | 20:35 |
| kn100 | i wrote some programs in python allready using Tkinter and pygame (simple media player), but i cant figure out GTK | 20:35 |
| mhall119|work | kn100: how was pygame? I need that for Qimo | 20:36 |
| kn100 | i only used its media playback capabilities, and it worked quite well | 20:36 |
| kn100 | only thing is it doesnt handle non english charecters very well | 20:37 |
| kn100 | just throws an exception | 20:37 |
| kn100 | i wish there were was an ide that worked like vb6 | 20:38 |
| kn100 | wysiwyg, then jump to code view, and write the visual basic code behind the buttons | 20:38 |
| mhall119|work | kn100: Glade | 20:38 |
| kn100 | Glade i couldnt get the hang of, worked nothing like visual basic, QT worked almost perfect for what i needed it for, but i couldnt figure out how to get python code out of it | 20:39 |
| kn100 | only .ui files | 20:39 |
| mhall119|work | Glade lets you separate the UI from the logic | 20:39 |
| mhall119|work | oh, ok | 20:40 |
| kn100 | visual basic was like html and php but a programming lanuage | 20:40 |
| kn100 | language | 20:40 |
| mhall119|work | I never use WYSIWYG UI editors, never liked them | 20:40 |
| kn100 | it makes prototyping programs so easy | 20:40 |
| mhall119|work | PHP is a programming language | 20:40 |
| kn100 | plus visual basic, while not cross platform, was done every effectively | 20:40 |
| kn100 | mhall119|work: you know what i meant, like c# | 20:41 |
| ScottK | If you like C#, you can use C# in Ubuntu. | 20:41 |
| kn100 | no | 20:41 |
| mhall119|work | I thought I did, but the C# comment makes me more confused | 20:41 |
| kn100 | lol | 20:41 |
| nhaines | Best to stick out Python. :) | 20:41 |
| kn100 | lemme try and clarify | 20:41 |
| kn100 | visual basic worked like dreamweaver, but was a lot more powerful than php/html obviously | 20:42 |
| kn100 | well was similar to dreamweaver | 20:42 |
| kn100 | interface design very drag and droppy | 20:42 |
| kn100 | like qt'sb | 20:42 |
| kn100 | but i cant figure out how to put python code into the UI file if you know what im trying to say | 20:42 |
| nhaines | kn100: you mean like it had a decent code editor and a GUI editor? | 20:43 |
| nhaines | kn100: SPE might help. | 20:43 |
| kn100 | nahaines yep | 20:43 |
| nhandler | Might I suggest moving some of this obvious non-meeting discussion to another channel | 20:43 |
| * mhall119|work never used dreamweaver | 20:43 | |
| kn100 | Stanis python editor? | 20:43 |
| kn100 | and nhandler yes | 20:43 |
| nhaines | Whoops! nhandler's right. :) | 20:43 |
| kn100 | anyone want to move to my channel to continure this? | 20:43 |
| mhall119|work | kn100: sure | 20:43 |
| kn100 | #unemployed | 20:44 |
| nhaines | heh | 20:44 |
| czajkowski | itnet7: *ping* | 21:32 |
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| lool | Hey | 21:57 |
| ogra_ | moo | 21:58 |
| plars | bock | 21:59 |
| ogra_ | where is mr. casadevall ? | 21:59 |
| NCommander | #startmeeting | 22:02 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 16:02. The chair is NCommander. | 22:02 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 22:02 |
| NCommander | *coughs* | 22:02 |
| ogra_ | ah | 22:02 |
| NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap | 22:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap | 22:02 |
| NCommander | [link] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090618 | 22:02 |
| MootBot | LINK received: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Meeting/2009/20090618 | 22:02 |
| ogra_ | no agenda ? | 22:02 |
| ogra_ | ah | 22:02 |
| ogra_ | i'm slow | 22:02 |
| NCommander | Sorry, I wasn't watching the clock. | 22:02 |
| NCommander | [topic] Action Item Review | 22:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Action Item Review | 22:03 |
| NCommander | [topic] ogra to investigate pm-dashboard (co) | 22:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ogra to investigate pm-dashboard (co) | 22:03 |
| ogra_ | co, sorry | 22:03 |
| NCommander | co on the next two action items for me | 22:03 |
| NCommander | [topic] NCommander to investigate thunderbird segfaults on ARM (https://launchpad.net/bugs/340595) | 22:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: NCommander to investigate thunderbird segfaults on ARM (https://launchpad.net/bugs/340595) | 22:03 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 340595 in thunderbird "thunderbird-bin failed to start: burned lots of CPU crashed with SIGSEGV (dup-of: 385325)" [Undecided,Invalid] | 22:04 |
| NCommander | (this is now on our roadmap) | 22:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 385325 in thunderbird "[armel] thunderbird-bin crashed with SIGSEGVI" [Medium,Confirmed] | 22:04 |
| ogra_ | really ? | 22:04 |
| NCommander | And I need to update it for the current bug number :-) | 22:04 |
| NCommander | Yeah | 22:04 |
| ogra_ | you did a lot of work on that, didnt you ? | 22:04 |
| * ogra_ wouldnt call that a co | 22:04 | |
| NCommander | Still ongoing actually, as there is a good chance we may get stuck with TB2 | 22:04 |
| GrueMaster | I think bug 337809 may be moot as it was lpia. | 22:04 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 337809 in linux "APIC error on CPU 0" [Medium,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/337809 | 22:04 |
| ogra_ | you mean 3 ? | 22:04 |
| NCommander | ogra, no, I'm c/oing the vnc4 and the lpia bug | 22:05 |
| NCommander | ^s | 22:05 |
| ogra_ | (TB3) | 22:05 |
| NCommander | Oh, es | 22:05 |
| NCommander | *yes | 22:05 |
| lool | GrueMaster: It doesn't happen with i386 kernels? | 22:05 |
| GrueMaster | I'll double check, but I don't think it happens with UNR, only MID. It's been a while since I looked. | 22:06 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster, if it doesn't happen with UNR, I think we can safely ax that bug. | 22:06 |
| GrueMaster | That's what I said. | 22:06 |
| GrueMaster | Will retest soonish. | 22:07 |
| NCommander | [action] GrueMaster to retest 337809 on i386 | 22:07 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: GrueMaster to retest 337809 on i386 | 22:07 |
| lool | NCommander: I'm happy if you just conclude the work you started on TB2 arm issues and call it broken; perhaps one thing which you could attempt is mailing the original upstream bug reporter as he might have found a fix | 22:07 |
| NCommander | lool, well, if this last test still fails, then yes, I'm going to call it quits on this one | 22:08 |
| ogra_ | lool, well, there is some request from OSG that we find a fix | 22:08 |
| lool | (The upstream comments indicated the patch might not help) | 22:08 |
| lool | ogra_: OSG? | 22:08 |
| lool | Oh OSG | 22:08 |
| ogra_ | heh | 22:08 |
| lool | Geezm too many acronyms | 22:08 |
| ogra_ | yeah | 22:08 |
| NCommander | We sure like our TLAs :-) | 22:08 |
| lool | It's going to be a pain | 22:08 |
| plars | overseas shipping group? | 22:09 |
| lool | OEM Solutions Groups :) | 22:09 |
| NCommander | ogra, who requested that we work on TB (this is the first I heard of OSG wanting it) | 22:09 |
| plars | :) | 22:09 |
| lool | (but perhaps you knew) | 22:09 |
| ogra_ | well, we could go with TB3 in universe | 22:09 |
| NCommander | I still don't know why they renamed themselves from OEM to OSG | 22:09 |
| GrueMaster | Obese Smelly Gremlins? | 22:09 |
| ogra_ | but TB was a request | 22:09 |
| plars | TB2 specifically? or just "a working TB"? | 22:10 |
| NCommander | plars, for some reason, I can't see OSG jumping with joy at shipping TB3 .... | 22:10 |
| ogra_ | plars, some TB :) | 22:11 |
| NCommander | Do we have anything else on this bug to say from anyone? | 22:12 |
| NCommander | Guess not | 22:12 |
| NCommander | Op | 22:13 |
| lool | No | 22:13 |
| NCommander | *ok | 22:13 |
| NCommander | [topic] Specification Review and Roadmap Construction | 22:13 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Specification Review and Roadmap Construction | 22:13 |
| NCommander | Hopefully by now all specifications have been drafted, and submitted to the roadmap by now | 22:13 |
| NCommander | I believe the best way to go forward is go through each spec, get the current status, time estimation if its assigned, or work on assigning specs to people | 22:14 |
| NCommander | Any objections? | 22:15 |
| * ogra_ still has two in drafting ... but they are listed and have their ETA | 22:15 | |
| NCommander | Alright, no objections, lets go through it | 22:15 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-wubi (StevenK) | 22:15 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-wubi (StevenK) | 22:15 |
| ramaddan__ | hi, sorry, I'm new to this, and I did not know how to add a spec for review on the roadmap | 22:16 |
| ogra_ | is StevenK around even ? | 22:16 |
| lool | ramaddan__: What's your spec? | 22:16 |
| ramaddan__ | I wanted to add this: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/LoginVirtualKeyboard/ | 22:16 |
| lool | ramaddan__: That's nice; who would be implementing the changes? You? | 22:17 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, we already have a virtual keyboard spec on our roadmap | 22:17 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander: It's the same one. | 22:17 |
| ramaddan__ | me with the help of someone | 22:17 |
| ogra_ | cool | 22:17 |
| lool | ramaddan__: That's all fine; you're welcome to report periodically on progress of your work over the karmic cycle | 22:18 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, there's currently no one assigned to that specification, I don't think there will be an issue with assigning you to it. (davidm is in charge of such things0 | 22:18 |
| ramaddan__ | however, the spec was broken down into two issues, keyboard for gnome, and keyboard for terminal, but the terminal one is on hold for now | 22:18 |
| lool | We review spec progress at these meetings, but you can raise any question or issue at any time | 22:18 |
| ramaddan__ | ok | 22:19 |
| lool | You're not required to attend or anything, but it's nice if we have a way to get updates | 22:19 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, I assigned you to the spec on our Roadmap | 22:19 |
| ramaddan__ | well, in terms of progress, I decided to go with a different keyboard called florence as opposed to onboard, is that fine? | 22:20 |
| ogra_ | ramaddan__, can you add a proper spec header to the wikipage ? | 22:20 |
| ramaddan__ | as the florence developper already implemented some important features, as well as being very communicative | 22:20 |
| ramaddan__ | sure, but how should the spec header be? | 22:21 |
| ogra_ | have a look here https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Specs/ArmRootfsBuilderGUI | 22:21 |
| ogra_ | cross link it to the LP entry of the spec and make sure davidm assigns it to you in LP | 22:21 |
| NCommander | I'm going to skip over StevenK's specs unless he pops up before the meeting is over | 22:21 |
| lool | ramaddan__: Concerning the change in the implementation, just document the rationale on the wiki page | 22:22 |
| lool | ramaddan__: If you want this virtual keyboard to be enabled by default in Ubuntu flavours which are in "main | 22:22 |
| lool | "main | 22:22 |
| lool | Grmf | 22:22 |
| lool | in "main", you will have to ask for promotion of your packages to main, but you'll see when that's required | 22:23 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, as part of the roadmap review, you'll have a opportunity to bring up implementation and progress notes (right now, this is our first Roadmap review session for karmic) | 22:23 |
| ramaddan__ | ok, it reduces strain on me anyway, as I'm new to this, and need to learn my way around, so will promote when it seems ready | 22:24 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, no problem, we all hang out in #ubuntu-mobile, and the team is quite litterially spread around the globe, so feel free to drop in and ask for help | 22:24 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-applications (GrueMaster) | 22:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-applications (GrueMaster) | 22:25 |
| ramaddan__ | thanks, that really helps | 22:25 |
| GrueMaster | Waiting for someone to review it and pick it apart. | 22:25 |
| NCommander | any volunteers? | 22:25 |
| GrueMaster | Guess I'll have to have my mom review it. sigh, | 22:26 |
| NCommander | GrueMaster, try asking StevenK to, he'll know the issues the best | 22:27 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-android-execution-environment (NCommander) | 22:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-android-execution-environment (NCommander) | 22:27 |
| NCommander | [action] GrueMaster to ask StevenK to review mobile-unr-karmic-applications spec | 22:27 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: GrueMaster to ask StevenK to review mobile-unr-karmic-applications spec | 22:27 |
| NCommander | On android-execution, I'm dep-wait OSG. It isn't clear their work will be ready in the karmic timeframe, nor have the necessary kernel changes landed | 22:28 |
| NCommander | I should have a clearer picture on this in the coming weeks | 22:28 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-accessibility (Unassigned) | 22:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-accessibility (Unassigned) | 22:28 |
| plars | it is drafted and in review state | 22:28 |
| NCommander | Any takers on reviewing it? | 22:29 |
| plars | sent email to neil to see if he has anything to add | 22:29 |
| NCommander | [action] unr-karmic-accessibility to be reviewed and assigned | 22:29 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: unr-karmic-accessibility to be reviewed and assigned | 22:29 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-translations (Unassigned) | 22:30 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-translations (Unassigned) | 22:30 |
| NCommander | Steve is set as the drafter on it, and I don't see a specification attached | 22:30 |
| NCommander | I'll c/o it | 22:30 |
| ramaddan__ | ok, I added a header and linked it, is this correct? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/LoginVirtualKeyboard | 22:31 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-qa-karmic-unr (plars) | 22:31 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-qa-karmic-unr (plars) | 22:31 |
| plars | NCommander: drafted, sitting in review state, already assigned to me | 22:32 |
| * NCommander nods | 22:32 | |
| NCommander | [topic] ubuntu-mobile-voice-user-interface (Unassigned) | 22:32 |
| MootBot | New Topic: ubuntu-mobile-voice-user-interface (Unassigned) | 22:32 |
| NCommander | dyfet is the drafter | 22:32 |
| dyfet | It should be ready for review... | 22:33 |
| lool | ramaddan__: Looks good | 22:33 |
| ramaddan__ | lool: Thanks | 22:33 |
| NCommander | I'll skip the UNR 2-d interface, no Steve | 22:33 |
| NCommander | *sigh* | 22:33 |
| ogra_ | wait | 22:33 |
| NCommander | ? | 22:33 |
| ogra_ | that one is supposed to be done by OSG | 22:34 |
| ogra_ | i was discussing it with repete several times this week and he should have contacted davidm about it by now | 22:34 |
| NCommander | Should I scratch it from our roadmap? | 22:34 |
| ogra_ | k-s (gustavo) is supposed to draft and implement it | 22:34 |
| ogra_ | not before you get the "go" from davidm | 22:35 |
| lool | Gustavo is working on this, I think he announced plans around E1* | 22:35 |
| ogra_ | El* ? | 22:36 |
| ogra_ | oh the enlightenment | 22:36 |
| * ogra_ just had one :) | 22:36 | |
| NCommander | ogra, +1 pun | 22:37 |
| ogra_ | lool, right, but the paperwork needs to be done too and steven was eager to get off the hook | 22:37 |
| ogra_ | thats why i was hasseling repete the whole week | 22:37 |
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| lool | E1* as in E17 and 16 | 22:38 |
| davidm | ogra_, sorry was called awsay on ca phone call | 22:38 |
| davidm | I've not heard from repete this week | 22:39 |
| ogra_ | davidm, it was about the 2D launcher spec | 22:39 |
| ogra_ | hmm, i'll chase him down tomorrow then | 22:39 |
| ogra_ | so OSG officially takes over the spec | 22:39 |
| NCommander | [action] ogra to get clarification on the 2D UNR spec | 22:39 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: ogra to get clarification on the 2D UNR spec | 22:39 |
| davidm | Ah, I think it's being done a different way by different people | 22:39 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-login-virtual-keyboard (ramaddan__) | 22:41 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-login-virtual-keyboard (ramaddan__) | 22:41 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, we already discussed this spec earlier, but i didn't get an estimation on how long you except this to take? (i.e., how long until you expect the feature to land in archive) | 22:42 |
| NCommander | hi StevenK | 22:42 |
| * StevenK waves sleepily | 22:42 | |
| * ogra_ gives StevenK a caffeine pill | 22:43 | |
| * NCommander starts a caffeine drip | 22:43 | |
| ramaddan__ | I placed a month for myself, tentatively | 22:43 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, thus noted, thank you :-) | 22:43 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-wubi (StevenK) | 22:44 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-wubi (StevenK) | 22:44 |
| ramaddan__ | NCommander: and for updates, I come back here on Thursdays, right? | 22:44 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Blocked on -seeds | 22:44 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, right, Thursday at 21:00 UTC | 22:44 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-seeds (StevenK) | 22:44 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-seeds (StevenK) | 22:44 |
| ramaddan__ | NCommander: how long do the meetings last? | 22:45 |
| ogra_ | ramaddan__, we try to make it in 1h | 22:45 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, an hour, although this one probably going to run over (or spill into #ubuntu-mobile) | 22:45 |
| StevenK | NCommander: Blocked on me learning bzr | 22:46 |
| ogra_ | learning ??? | 22:46 |
| ogra_ | wow | 22:46 |
| StevenK | Or something. Read as, I'm having trouble with it | 22:46 |
| NCommander | O_o; | 22:46 |
| ogra_ | ask us :) | 22:46 |
| NCommander | StevenK, we don't bite (much) | 22:46 |
| ogra_ | (not now indeed) | 22:46 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-iso-versus-img (StevenK) | 22:47 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-iso-versus-img (StevenK) | 22:47 |
| ramaddan__ | ok, will keep that in mind. Bye for now then :-) and thanks to everyone for your help | 22:47 |
| NCommander | ramaddan__, have a good night! | 22:47 |
| StevenK | NCommander: No progress, waiting for davidm on that one. | 22:47 |
| ramaddan__ | NCommander: you too | 22:47 |
| davidm | StevenK, what am I holding up? | 22:47 |
| NCommander | StevenK, there are a bunch of unassigned UNR specs, do you want them? | 22:48 |
| StevenK | davidm: It's Review, or it was when I went to bed | 22:48 |
| davidm | Oh, OK I'll look now | 22:48 |
| ogra_ | most of our specs are review | 22:48 |
| NCommander | StevenK, check the roadmap, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MobileTeam/Roadmap, make sure all the specs you care about are there, and assign yourself to anything you plan on implementing | 22:49 |
| davidm | NCommander, mobile-unr-karmic-iso-versus-img approved | 22:50 |
| NCommander | ^- StevenK | 22:50 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-arm-karmic-softboot-loader (NCommander) | 22:50 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-arm-karmic-softboot-loader (NCommander) | 22:50 |
| NCommander | Redrafted for Karmic. In review. | 22:51 |
| ogra_ | implemented ? | 22:51 |
| ogra_ | slacker ! | 22:51 |
| NCommander | Depwait armel on hardware that supported kexec() | 22:51 |
| ogra_ | :) | 22:51 |
| StevenK | Okay, then I think I can mark -img-as-iso as Implemented. | 22:51 |
| NCommander | I'll do dev work on i386 as a basis and port over if approved | 22:51 |
| NCommander | ogra_, :-P | 22:51 |
| NCommander | [topic] zeitgeist-for-unr-favorites (njpatel) | 22:52 |
| MootBot | New Topic: zeitgeist-for-unr-favorites (njpatel) | 22:52 |
| NCommander | Who isn't present | 22:52 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-qa-karmic-arm (plars) | 22:52 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-qa-karmic-arm (plars) | 22:52 |
| plars | NCommander: drafted, sitting in review state, already assigned to me | 22:52 |
| NCommander | \o/ | 22:52 |
| * NCommander will have to make sure all the specs on the Roadmap are either In Review or Approved | 22:53 | |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-data-sync (Unassigned) | 22:53 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-data-sync (Unassigned) | 22:53 |
| davidm | NCommander, zeitgeist-for-unr-favorites is a spec for the DX team | 22:53 |
| NCommander | davidm, so scratch it from the roadmap? | 22:53 |
| ogra_ | drop it from the roadmap | 22:53 |
| davidm | NCommander, yes, move it down and comment it out so we don't lose it. | 22:54 |
| StevenK | No, don't drop it, move it out | 22:54 |
| NCommander | Done | 22:54 |
| ogra_ | add an "other teams" table ? | 22:54 |
| ogra_ | for the 2D launcher too | 22:55 |
| NCommander | Sure, good idea | 22:55 |
| davidm | ogra_, that sounds good | 22:55 |
| NCommander | done 2.0 | 22:56 |
| NCommander | I guess no one has anything to say about data-sync | 22:56 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-arm-cloud-builds (lool) | 22:56 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-arm-cloud-builds (lool) | 22:56 |
| davidm | 4 minute warning | 22:56 |
| ogra_ | davidm, we wont make it in time today | 22:57 |
| lool | Don't know what there's to comment on this one, NCommander: you updated it, you might want to comment | 22:57 |
| GrueMaster | I think the data-sync was persias. | 22:57 |
| NCommander | Drafted the specification, clarified points of the discussion, and added possible implementation ideas, but its still for loic to implement. | 22:57 |
| NCommander | Needs to be moved to the In Review state. | 22:57 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui (ogra) | 22:58 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-arm-karmic-offline-installer-gui (ogra) | 22:58 |
| lool | Ok, will do that, moving to davidm | 22:58 |
| ogra_ | ready for review | 22:58 |
| ogra_ | we need a nice project name btw | 22:58 |
| NCommander | For offline-installer? | 22:59 |
| ogra_ | lool wasnt happy with me calling it ubuntu-armel-rootfs-builder | 22:59 |
| lool | argo | 22:59 |
| ogra_ | ok ok ... i'll call it argo and we are done with that part :) | 22:59 |
| NCommander | unsupported-rootfs-builder? | 22:59 |
| NCommander | :-) | 22:59 |
| lool | I wished we'd at least avoid arm in the name, if possible ubuntu (as learnt from the uvb experience) | 22:59 |
| NCommander | uvb? | 22:59 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, read the spec ... | 22:59 |
| NCommander | *ahem* | 23:00 |
| StevenK | non-livecd-rootfs | 23:00 |
| NCommander | supported-rootfs-builder :-) | 23:00 |
| * StevenK hides | 23:00 | |
| ogra_ | its supposed to get you a supported setp after my work :) | 23:00 |
| * NCommander chuckles | 23:00 | |
| StevenK | not-really-livecd-rootfs-i-just-like-the-name | 23:00 |
| lool | ogra_: I think any random name without too much significance is fine; rootfs-gears or bongodaloop | 23:00 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop (ogra) | 23:00 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-lxde-ubuntu-desktop (ogra) | 23:00 |
| ogra_ | bongodaloop !!! | 23:00 |
| ogra_ | i like that | 23:00 |
| StevenK | Now Look What You've Done | 23:01 |
| ogra_ | well, on lxde dyfet did a lot of work, i reviewed it today but it still needs some corrections | 23:01 |
| lool | I am happy to provide more of these: shazampaf, deedleadum, carambada | 23:01 |
| ogra_ | dyfet, would you like to take that one ? | 23:01 |
| dyfet | ogra_: yep, drafted it this afternoon... | 23:01 |
| ogra_ | shazampaf is cool as well | 23:02 |
| dyfet | ogra_: okay | 23:02 |
| plars | sounds too much like shamwow | 23:02 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-karmic-general-resolution-for-touchscreen-handling (ogra) | 23:02 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-karmic-general-resolution-for-touchscreen-handling (ogra) | 23:02 |
| ogra_ | dyfet, so its yours | 23:02 |
| dyfet | ogra_: what corrections did you see? I worked from the notes... | 23:02 |
| ogra_ | touchscreen -> still drafting, thats a lot of paperwork since i need to merge it with the jaunty one | 23:02 |
| NCommander | I'll skip the mer spec. ENOPERSIA | 23:03 |
| * GrueMaster has lost track of the current discussion...sleeping. | 23:03 | |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-unr-karmic-connman (plars) | 23:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-unr-karmic-connman (plars) | 23:03 |
| ogra_ | dyfet, well some things missing still, one typo and edubuntu isnt a lightweight desktop ;) | 23:03 |
| StevenK | GrueMaster: That's because there is two | 23:03 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, redboot ? | 23:03 |
| plars | NCommander: it's drafted, in review state, but could probably use some better implementation details from someone who understand what it will need better | 23:03 |
| dyfet | ogra_: will adjust :) | 23:04 |
| NCommander | ogra, oh wow, I'm starting to fade :-/ | 23:04 |
| NCommander | [topic] mobile-arm-karmic-easy-redboot-management (ogra) | 23:04 |
| MootBot | New Topic: mobile-arm-karmic-easy-redboot-management (ogra) | 23:04 |
| ogra_ | heh | 23:04 |
| ogra_ | drafting | 23:04 |
| StevenK | plars: I'd suggest asking asac for guidance | 23:04 |
| * NCommander has been awake for ~16 hours now :-/ | 23:04 | |
| ogra_ | note that conman is a dep fro lxde | 23:04 |
| NCommander | I have concerns w/ conman replacing network managers | 23:04 |
| NCommander | *manger | 23:04 |
| plars | StevenK: he was one who left review comments asking for such | 23:04 |
| NCommander | I noted it on the spec page | 23:04 |
| dyfet | ogra_: agreed, it is as drafted... | 23:05 |
| ogra_ | NCommander, for lxde its perfect | 23:05 |
| NCommander | ogra, it has known issues with some wireless cards, especially broadcomm | 23:05 |
| ogra_ | it fits in certain setups | 23:05 |
| NCommander | which upstream was unwilling to fix | 23:05 |
| * StevenK twitches | 23:05 | |
| ogra_ | heh | 23:05 |
| NCommander | StevenK, you probably should get that checked | 23:06 |
| StevenK | Because supporting other wireless cards is bad ... ? | 23:06 |
| plars | NCommander: did you put that on the whiteboard or wiki? | 23:06 |
| ogra_ | bcm isnt intel :P | 23:06 |
| NCommander | plars, wiki | 23:06 |
| lool | (We're over time) | 23:06 |
| StevenK | ogra_: I did think that, yes | 23:06 |
| ogra_ | lool, well, we're done so far i'd say | 23:07 |
| NCommander | lool, no one is scheluded to use this room until Friday afternoon ... | 23:07 |
| StevenK | We so aren't going to keep going until then. | 23:07 |
| StevenK | Are We? | 23:07 |
| ogra_ | depends whose afternoon | 23:07 |
| GrueMaster | I have another room I'd like to visit. | 23:07 |
| NCommander | I'll make this quick | 23:07 |
| NCommander | [topic] Any other business | 23:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Any other business | 23:07 |
| NCommander | Anyone have anything else to bring up? | 23:07 |
| lool | GrueMaster: same here :) | 23:07 |
| NCommander | [action] NCommander to confirm list of specs to be in Review and Approved and have davidm set LP status accordingly | 23:08 |
| MootBot | ACTION received: NCommander to confirm list of specs to be in Review and Approved and have davidm set LP status accordingly | 23:08 |
| GrueMaster | Sprint coming up. | 23:08 |
| ogra_ | to the other room ? | 23:08 |
| davidm | It's in Dublin | 23:08 |
| * NCommander needs to figure out how to get there from DebConf ... | 23:09 | |
| davidm | flap your arms?? | 23:09 |
| lool | erf | 23:09 |
| NCommander | davidm, I was thinking giant slingshot .... | 23:09 |
| plars | we seem to have skipped/didn't have time for discussion on bug workflow, but I didn't send anything to NCommanderin advance... if you'd like, I can put together an outline on a wiki page (marked not final of course) for later discussion? | 23:09 |
| davidm | That could work too but the landing would suck | 23:09 |
| GrueMaster | Judging by what I remember from seeing him at UDS, he'd need to flap really hard. | 23:10 |
| * GrueMaster ducks | 23:10 | |
| ogra_ | depends on whom you land :) | 23:10 |
| davidm | plars, that sounds good. | 23:10 |
| lool | plars: Sounds good; I'd prefer discussing next week than now | 23:10 |
| NCommander | plars, well, we have until tomorrow afternoon, we could chat now ... | 23:10 |
| NCommander | oh wait | 23:10 |
| NCommander | sounds like I was overruled. | 23:10 |
| plars | NCommander: from debconf? wouldn't you just open a merge request? :) | 23:10 |
| GrueMaster | LOL | 23:10 |
| StevenK | And have Launchpad do it? | 23:10 |
| * StevenK hides | 23:10 | |
| lool | *sync* :-) | 23:10 |
| NCommander | StevenK, no, I'd like to make it to the sprint in one piece | 23:11 |
| NCommander | StevenK, and not a pile of zope exceptions. | 23:11 |
| NCommander | Anyway | 23:11 |
| GrueMaster | NCommander is definitely an exception. | 23:11 |
| GrueMaster | :P | 23:11 |
| StevenK | Haha! | 23:11 |
| * NCommander throws UnhandledExceptionException at GrueMaster's head | 23:11 | |
| plars | I'm thinking we're done | 23:12 |
| NCommander | I think your right | 23:12 |
| NCommander | Anything else | 23:12 |
| NCommander | going once | 23:12 |
| NCommander | going twice | 23:12 |
| GrueMaster | Ew. Throwing Vista errors. how nasty. | 23:12 |
| ogra_ | ah, the countdown | 23:12 |
| NCommander | Shutdown countdown interrupted! | 23:12 |
| NCommander | :-P | 23:12 |
| NCommander | #endmeeting | 23:12 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 17:12. | 23:12 |
| * lool sleep & | 23:13 | |
| * ogra_ too | 23:13 | |
| NCommander | thirds the motion | 23:13 |
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