[00:00] <Guest97233> Why do you want to reinstall andry ?
[00:00] <AndryZ> Guest97233: it doesnt show up with iwconfig anymore
[00:00] <AndryZ> after a upgrade
[00:01] <mike222> are you using any weird drivers ?
[00:01] <mike222> like airmon ?
[00:01] <AndryZ> nono
[00:01] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: yo
[00:01] <ActionParsnip> hey guys, where does swiftfox keep its plugins folder?
[00:01] <AndryZ> it always worked
[00:01] <AndryZ> I dunno what happened
[00:01] <AndryZ> but it's an atheros adaptor
[00:01] <edbian> ActionParsnip: All configuration for pretty much every program is kept in either /home/.programname (hidden files)  Or in /etc/<something>
[00:01] <AndryZ> so it should work with no problems
[00:02] <mike222> ya
[00:02] <adac> is teher a tool that wakes my pc up in the morning and sounds the wakup alarm?
[00:02] <mike222> i dono still waiting for my atheros card to show up in the mail
[00:02] <mike222> does it show up in the network manger ?
[00:03] <ActionParsnip> edbian: yeah but ive put the flash .so file in a billion folders but still get no flash
[00:03] <velcroshooz> !backports
[00:03] <mike222> Anyone installed the nvidia drivers then restarted and their screen was black ?
[00:03] <TimMc> Is there any way to restore an *existing* Ubuntu system backup into an encrypted LVM, including the partitioning?
[00:04] <mike222> you can mount the existing partition
[00:04] <TimMc> I just discovered that the Live CD does not know how to mount the LUKS LVM that the alternate installer created. :-/
[00:04] <mike222> not sure about making it into a encrypted lvm
[00:04] <mike222> bye
[00:04] <edbian> ActionParsnip: Maybe this helps?? http://forums.getswiftfox.com/viewtopic.php?t=72&sid=76489ad2f40dd7ed20d421103ece11bb
[00:05] <TimMc> The problem I'm having is that while I can certainly copy files into a running Ubuntu system that uses encrypted LVM, that's no good for backup/restore.
[00:05] <TimMc> I need a way to fiddle with a stopped encrypted LVM.
[00:05] <ActionParsnip> edbian: let me check
[00:05] <glitsj16> ActionParsnip: have you tried setting plugin.expose_full_path in swiftfox about:config yet? That might give a clue as to where it expects things to reside
[00:06] <mattalexx> I was going to build a media PC with Ubuntu but this is a dealbreaker :-)
[00:06] <mattalexx> Anyone found a good solution to Flash 10's prolem where video studders when it's full screen in Jaunty?
[00:07] <StephenZuc> There's an Ubuntu installer that'll pull down all the actual data itself, right, rather than having it compressed on the CD?
[00:07] <TimMc> StephenZuc: Look for the netboot installer.
[00:07] <StephenZuc> TimMc: thanks!
[00:07] <ActionParsnip> glitsj16: i'll ceck that out
[00:08] <TimMc> StephenZuc: It's great if you don't have access to external media, like when I had a computer with a broken optical drive
[00:08] <TimMc> and it couldn't boot from USB
[00:08] <TimMc> All I did was save the linux and initrd.gz files in the root directory and manually load them from the grub screen
[00:08] <TimMc> StephenZuc: PM me if you need help with netboot
[00:09] <StephenZuc> TimMc: There a page out there with more info thaty ou're familiar with? I tried google and all I'm getting is discussion on the ubuntu forums.
[00:09] <racecar56> whenever i move/add/whatever items on my panel and then log out and back in it acts like i don't do anything, help?
[00:10] <StephenZuc> Aha! help.ubuntu.com/community/installation/netboot
[00:10] <bullzeye95> hello, I'm having a problem with my wireless adapter (TEW-424UB, with [I think] drivers called 8187b, thought I'm not really sure if that is a driver :\).  It keeps losing connection for minutes at a time, and fluctuates between 100% signal to 20-40%.  I can't seem to get the right drivers working
[00:11] <racecar56> bullzeye95, trendnet?
[00:11] <bullzeye95> yes
[00:11] <racecar56> bullzeye95, ahhhh cheap
[00:11] <racecar56> bullzeye95, :P
[00:11] <racecar56> bullzeye95, at least my router from there is cheap
[00:11] <bullzeye95> hehe, I figured it would suffice for one room over ^.^
[00:12] <racecar56> whenever i move/add/whatever items on my panel and then log out and back in it acts like i never changed anyhting with the panel, what is going on?
[00:13] <ibmman> how do i mount my floppy drive in ubuntu?
[00:13] <racecar56> ibmman, sudo modprobe floppy if it isnt already
[00:13] <ActionParsnip> screw it. i'll keep bloated ol firefox
[00:13] <racecar56> ibmman, then sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[00:14] <racecar56> ibmman, then look inside /mnt when it's done and you'll see whats in the floppy
[00:14] <racecar56> also see...
[00:14] <racecar56> !fstab
[00:14] <bastidrazor> !floppy > ibmman
[00:15] <Ty> When i run my screensaver it sets my key layout back to Qwerty sometimes.  How do I stop this?
[00:16] <RussellChamp> hey, can anybody help me with a problem related to upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10?
[00:16] <sebsebseb> RussellChamp: maybe
[00:16] <sebsebseb> !details |  RussellChamp
[00:17] <Samushka> clear
[00:18] <eric__> mudkips
[00:18] <Ty> I liek mudkips :3
[00:18] <OneirosFade> Hey everyone
[00:19] <ldiamond> I have 2 monitors, I want both to have their own application bar (at the bottom) but I want to be able to drag application on either sides. Both can have the top bar + icons or not, I dont care about that. How can I do this? I have nvidia drivers installed
[00:20] <racecar56> when i modify the order of the applets on the panel it dosent save changes, help? this is driving me nuts
[00:22] <xcerca> im in a recovry terminal now and i want to copy everything from a device (/dev/sdb1) that i've mounted to /mnt/sdb1 to another folder /home/  when i do "cp /mnt/sdb1/ /home" i keep getting omitting directory /mnt/sdb1  ?  is there another command i should be using ?
[00:23] <david___> alright guys, i have a really simple question. if i wanted to search a folder with ls for all .dat files "ls *.dat" but then print the output of that to another file, how would i do it? i'm new to piping
[00:23] <bastidrazor> xcerca, cp -R
[00:24] <xcerca> what does the -R do ?
[00:24] <bastidrazor> xcerca, recursive .. it will include all directories
[00:25] <xcerca> ok cool , thanks
[00:25] <Eevee> err cp will copy the files, not the list
[00:25] <Eevee> xcerca: ls *.dat > outfile
[00:25] <Eevee> xcerca: or if you want to descend, find . -name \*.dat > outfile
[00:25] <racecar56> when i modify the order of the applets on the panel it dosent save changes when i log out, how to fix
[00:26] <david___> is there anyway to append a bit of text before the output file is created eevee?
[00:26] <xcerca> Eevee , thx
[00:26] <mdg> david___: ls *.dat > dat.txt
[00:27] <david___> i have ls give me all the .dats, but then i want a text file that simply appends "plot" to the beginning of each. like "plot xxx.dat"
[00:27] <mdg> david___: I'm sure there is - but I can't recall
[00:27] <david___> for gnu plot >.<
[00:27] <mdg> david___: is plot supposed to be part of the name?
[00:27] <Eevee> david___: for file in *.dat; do echo plot $file; done > outfile
[00:29] <david___> ehhh, what would the command look like i'm confuse d now with the variable
[00:29] <Eevee> that's the whole thing
[00:29] <david___> oh gotcha it's a for loop
[00:29] <Eevee> yeah
[00:29] <david___> lemme try it >.<
[00:29] <Eevee> works exactly how it reads
[00:30] <david___> thanks man that's pretty awesome
[00:30] <Eevee> np
[00:31] <mdg> Anyone here use the new fluxbox?
[00:31] <Amorstus> How would I extract all the files from an ISO including hidden ones? The extraction tool built into ubuntu only shows the normal files, are the hidden ones in the folder that it makes?
[00:32] <sebsebseb> Amorstus: extract from an ISO why?
[00:32] <mdg> In the new fluxbox, can submenus be torn off and made to stay open, and just close the main menu?
[00:33] <Amorstus> sebsebseb: It's a very long story. I just need the files out so I can edit them (All of the files) and fix a couple of files that are causing errors
[00:34] <max__> Can someone help me configure my Atheros wireless card?
[00:35] <sebsebseb> Amorstus: issues such as?
[00:36] <ju> alguem
[00:36] <nnorbi> Amorstus: why don't you just mount the iso file? Then you could copy the files from it.
[00:37] <ju> no ablas english
[00:37] <bugo> how do i switch from a full screen game like nexiuz to another application without closing the game?
[00:37] <shockmount> whatsup folks
[00:37] <ju> alguem potuguese?
[00:37] <mdg> bugo You mean like alt + tab???
[00:37] <david___> hmm eevee one more thing, can that filename.dat be enclosed in ''
[00:37] <bugo> mdg  yes
[00:37] <david___> i think it cancels out the variable somehow
[00:37] <mdg> bugo: same in linux
[00:38] <deco_> ubuntu is for noobs! long live debian !!!!!
[00:38] <bugo> mdg its not working with this game
[00:38] <Eevee> david___: yes, the shell will consume the quotes.  you want to replace $file with "'$file'"
[00:38] <ju> oi
[00:38] <ju> hi
[00:38] <Unpredictable> billybigrigger: not sure if ur back but ive fiddled with it and nothing.. this is so ridiculous
[00:39] <mdg> bugo h..... then I'm not sure how you do that
[00:39] <xcerca> what's the purpose of the /home/lost+found/ folder ?
[00:39] <arand> mdg: bugo: not. If the game is not programmed to allow alt-tab, you're in the mud.
[00:39] <Eevee> david___: single-quotes mean "everything in here is one argument and ignore all special characters".  double-quotes are the same but special characters are honored
[00:39] <ju> ???????????????????????????????????????????????the books and the tlabe?
[00:39] <glitsj16> xcerca: that is the default folder for recovered files i believe
[00:39] <Eevee> "not allowing alt-tab" is such a fucking rude thing for a program to do
[00:39] <racecar56> when i modify the order of the applets on the panel it dosent save changes when i log out, how to fix
[00:39] <Eevee> as is starting in full screen by default
[00:39] <Eevee> drives me crazy
[00:40] <deco_> racecar56: use debian
[00:40] <racecar56> deco_, why am i here
[00:40] <deco_> deco_: don't know , beats me
[00:42] <webpigeon> Amorstus, have you tried unetbooin?
[00:43] <racecar56> whats the minimum ram for ubuntu 9.04 again?
[00:43] <mob__> ? where is xorgconfig file please
[00:43] <racecar56> 256 mb?
[00:43] <thiebaude> racecar56: yes
[00:43] <Amorstus> webpigeon: No, not yet
[00:43] <racecar56> thiebaude, thx
[00:43] <deco_> mob__: in your system
[00:43] <mob__> ty...
[00:43] <thiebaude> np
[00:43] <racecar56> thiebaude, know the minimum hard drive space?
[00:43] <mob__> where?
[00:43] <webpigeon> abosamoor, it might be worth giving it a go, you don't burn to usb disks :P
[00:43] <Amorstus> webpigeon: Just do sudo apt-get install unetbooin?
[00:44] <thiebaude> racecar56: 4gb
[00:44] <racecar56> unetbootin is old in repos
[00:44] <NetLarIrvine> How do I get Virtual Box screen to be bigger??
[00:44] <webpigeon> Amorstus, should work, not on ubuntu at the moment, so i can't check the repo
[00:44] <racecar56> get the binary from sf
[00:44] <Amorstus> webpigeon: K, ill try it right now
[00:44] <deco_> NetLarIrvine: get a bigger screen :-)
[00:45] <bastidrazor> mob__, /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[00:45] <Amorstus> webpigeon: Nope, not in there
[00:45] <NetLarIrvine> It does not fill up the screen now
[00:45] <mob__> ty ;]
[00:45] <webpigeon> racecar56, you know, every time i go to sf it looks different
[00:45] <nnorbi> NetLarIrvine: press right ctrl + f  it will put it on full screen
[00:45] <racecar56> webpigeon, unetbootin.sf.net
[00:45] <bastidrazor> deco_, sarcasm isn't the preferred method of helping
[00:45] <xcerca> instead of copying a folder from one place to another on the same hdd is there a way to just rename the folder  instead of cp /abcd/list /wxyz/list like rename /abcd/list/ /wxzy/list ?
[00:46] <webpigeon> Amorstus, http://sourceforge.net/projects/unetbootin/ as racecar56 said, you'll get a more upto date copy from there
[00:46] <Eevee> mv
[00:46] <xcerca> thx
[00:46] <Eevee> there is a 'rename' but it doesn't do what you think
[00:46] <Husaini> !gits
[00:46] <xcerca> ok
[00:46] <Cmclean> How do you run a web server on Ubuntu that is GUI based?
[00:46] <Husaini> !apache
[00:46] <deco_> Cmclean: install debian
[00:46] <racecar56> webpigeon, Amorstus besides the one from the repos is even older than the ubuntu itself :P
[00:47] <NetLarIrvine> It does not increase the operating system window if you put it in full screen
[00:47] <webpigeon> racecar56, oh dear... xD
[00:48] <bastidrazor> NetLarIrvine, you need to change the resolution of the guest OS
[00:48] <Cmclean> What is the difference between Desktop and Server versions of Ubuntu?
[00:48] <racecar56> webpigeon, i know... cURL 7.16.2 for the fail
[00:48] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: server comes with no gui installed
[00:48] <racecar56> webpigeon, man... HARDY has a newer version (i think)
[00:48] <TheMG> how do i make ubuntu recognise a program by just its name in the shell?
[00:48] <webpigeon> Cmclean, server has no gui
[00:48] <webpigeon> racecar56, XD
[00:48] <NetLarIrvine> ahh ok
[00:48] <racecar56> brb
[00:48] <TheMG> i.e. without the path
[00:48] <arand> TheMG: aliases?
[00:48] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: they both use the same software repos, but they have have different set of software installed by default
[00:48] <bastidrazor> TheMG, add it to /usr/local/bin
[00:49] <Bootee> hey guys trying to increase the size of my ubuntu boot partition. i tryed gparted. but the partition i need to make bigger is at the end of the disk.
[00:49] <Cmclean> OK so server requires less hardware? And also, does a server need a monitor?
[00:50] <InfoNutz> no
[00:50] <Eevee> Cmclean: no, I run ubuntu server on my..  well, server
[00:50] <Cmclean> What?
[00:51] <Cmclean> Can i use an old computer as a server?
[00:51] <Eevee> sure, you can use whatever you want as a server
[00:51] <Raydiation> how often does ubuntu release updates?
[00:51] <webpigeon> Cmclean, a server is not for games and stuff.... you do know that... right?
[00:51] <Eevee> Raydiation: new versions or just updates to programs?
[00:52] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: yes
[00:52] <Cmclean> Yes
[00:52] <Xet> Hello please This is driving me insane I hope you can help me out! well I have a mic (a complete headset),and when I try to talk through Tokbox there's a weird problemeople have told me that they hear Echoes from my computer, and I have my headset on! (Note: I don't have Speakers) , I've been trying to do something (the speaker icon in the volume control)
[00:52] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: want to see a picture of my server?
[00:52] <Cmclean> I want to run web pages, etc.
[00:52] <Xet> and nothing..., ah! and the weirdest is that in the options tab --> where It says Options select a mic, It says MIC 1 AND MIC 2; where's that MIC 2?
[00:52] <Cmclean> billybigrigger: sure
[00:53] <Bootee> how can i add a boot partition to the ubuntu boot loader (grub i think))
[00:53] <bastidrazor> Xet, possibly you could mute that mic in the sound settings?
[00:53] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: http://imagebin.ca/view/NTFzDoWU.html
[00:53] <TheMG> bastidrazor: do i move the bin alone, or all its files?
[00:53] <Cmclean> Also, a friend let me have access to his server a while ago... and it had buttons and stuff to add and remove things. It was really easy. What was that?
[00:54] <Eevee> Cmclean: was this through a web browser?
[00:54] <arand> Xet: Yea, normally there a re several superfluous options in the volume control... One reason could be if you have some internal mic working along as well?
[00:54] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: its running 9.04 server, 40gb hdd, 1gb ram, running apache/mysql/php/dovecot/postfix/webmail
[00:54] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: runs like a top
[00:54] <bastidrazor> TheMG, just the bin.. the bin will have to know where its files are.
[00:54] <Cmclean> Eevee: yes
[00:54] <Eevee> Cmclean: was probably cpanel or such then
[00:54] <TheMG> bastidrazor: its files are all on my memory stick
[00:54] <TheMG> bastidrazor: im doubting it knows that
[00:54] <Xet> arand: that's what I don't know, the internal mic thing,sorry I'm a newbie
[00:55] <Cmclean> billybigrigger:  so you mean that is a picture of your desktop and it is communitating to your server through something?
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: no that is the server
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: in virtual box :P
[00:55] <Cmclean> Eevee: is cPanel hard to set up/possible?
[00:55] <xcerca> eevee can i pm you real quick ? i just need some help with a command ?
[00:55] <Cmclean> billybigrigger: why virtual box?
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: it replaced my old pentium server, that was a loud ass energy hog
[00:55] <Eevee> xcerca: why not ask here?
[00:55] <bastidrazor> TheMG, you could symlink the bin and leave the original where it is.
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: better on the environment than have an old pos computer sitting in the corning of my room being loud and wasting power
[00:56] <Cmclean> billybigrigger: what do you mean by webmail?
[00:56] <Eevee> Cmclean: I don't think it's hard to set up, but honestly I prefer to run without it
[00:56] <arand> Xet: well internal mics are sneaky anyhow, what happens if you disconnect the external mic and talk, they hear anything?
[00:56] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: http://webmail.thefrozencanuck.ca
[00:56] <bastidrazor> TheMG, sudo ln -s /path/to/binfile /usr/local/bin/binfile
[00:56] <Xet> arand: They hear like a feedback from the computer according to them of course
[00:56] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: i use my virtual server as a mail server, i get my mail billybigrigger@thefrozencanuck.ca via Thunderbird, or Webmail, where i am
[00:56] <Cmclean> billybigrigger: so is all the mail on that computer?
[00:57] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: yeah
[00:57] <JohnWittle> Opera fails to recognise my java installation.
[00:57] <JohnWittle> Why is this?
[00:57] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: its just an AJAX client that connects to my imap/smtp server on my server
[00:57] <Cmclean> How good does your hardware have to be to run a basic web server or two?
[00:57] <JohnWittle> I put /usr/bin/java (which is the output of which java) into the dialog box
[00:57] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: minimal
[00:58] <JohnWittle> and it says "unable to locate valid java install; choose a different directory"
[00:58] <topchef> hi can anyone help me connect to my wifi network with my asus eeepc using ubuntu 8.0.4?
[00:58] <Cmclean> So is this the easiest way to host a website?
[00:58] <billybigrigger> Cmclean:::  5578 billybig  20   0 1656m 1.1g  54m S    1 27.8  54:09.55 VirtualBox
[00:58] <xcerca> ok ,  i have everything from my old /home/ (on on different hdd) folder cped to /home/sdb1/  , and in the folder is myname folder , and i just want that whole folder to go up one level and keep the same name , when i try cp /home/sdb1 /home it gets the  obvious error,  file is the same
[00:58] <arand> Xet: I'm really not sure what it could be, the internal mic was a guess, if not, I'm afraid I have no clue.
[00:58] <topchef> i also have netbook remix installed, but can get into terminal.
[00:58] <webpigeon> Cmclean, no, it's the most complex way
[00:58] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: thats my server, only using 27% of my memory
[00:58] <Cmclean> oh great
[00:58] <Eevee> Cmclean: the *easiest* way is to pay $5 for an existing host
[00:58] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: and i allocated it 1GB
[00:58] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: you can run a server from 20gb hdd and 512meg ram if you want
[00:58] <xcerca> n/m   i got it
[00:58] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: its headless, you don't need a gui
[00:59] <Cmclean> Well I want gui....
[00:59] <webpigeon> Cmclean, the easyest way is to find a free website, there is only about... oooh, 20 billon free hosts out there.
[00:59] <billybigrigger> Cmclean::: then its not a server
[00:59] <Eevee> billybigrigger: what about windows server  :P
[00:59] <Cmclean> Yah how good is windows server?
[00:59] <billybigrigger> Eevee::: haha why would you even ask?
[00:59] <Eevee> Cmclean: when they say "no GUI" they mean there's no desktop.  you can run web interfaces like cpanel
[00:59] <echinos> Ok... i was listening to a network stream, and the sound started jittering. It's still doing it - it sounds like a machine gun, repeating a fraction of a second of sound. I closed the app that was playing the sound, but the jittering is still happening. How can I find out what the issue is and fix it without rebooting?
[01:00] <webpigeon> Cmclean, windows server is rubbish
[01:00] <Royall> I honestly think that My Chemical Romance just crashed my compiz
[01:00] <echinos> I have had these problems before, but not for a couple months
[01:00] <Eevee> Cmclean: I hear it's a better desktop than regular windows!  but can't speak for how it is as a server.  having to use remote desktop to do anything seems like a colossal pain though
[01:01] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: how is running a virtual server the most complicated way to run a webserver?
[01:01] <webpigeon> Eevee, why waste rescourses running a desktop on a mashine
[01:01] <TwoToneSpirit> I am booted in a Live CD.  I have three hard drives - some with multiple partitions.  How can I find out (for GRUB purposes) which are called what? (ie hd0, hd1, hd2, etc)
[01:01] <webpigeon> billybigrigger, because you've attually got to maintain the server, and he's not talking about an VM, he's talking about running ubuntu-server on old hardware
[01:01] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sudo fdisk -l
[01:02] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sda1 = 0,0 in grub
[01:02] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sda2 0,1.....sda3 0,2
[01:02] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sdb1 1,0......sdb2 1,1
[01:03] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: why waste energy? recycle the old pos server and run a vm
[01:03] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: its not any more complicated that ACTUALLY running a server
[01:03] <billybigrigger> and its more EE
[01:03] <webpigeon> billybigrigger, thats my point...
[01:04] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: you make it sound like running a virtual server is complicated, when its not
[01:04] <webpigeon> billybigrigger, he has 0 experance with servers, so why not get a managed shared host?
[01:04] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: i didn't either
[01:04] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  ...and how can I tell which partition I need to point to for a (shudder) windows installation?  I tried setting it to 1,0 which is an NTFS partition that has windows installed, and I get error 22
[01:05] <billybigrigger> webpigeon::: i had my 9.04 server in Vbox running web/mysql/php/dovecot/postfix/roundcube/drupal running in a few hours
[01:05] <webpigeon> billybigrigger, because he didn't want to learn how to use terminal,
[01:05] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sudo grub
[01:05] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: grub> find /grub/stage1
[01:05] <webpigeon> billybigrigger, and i take it before those few hours you didn't know what a server was?
[01:05] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: oh nevermind, i read that wrong
[01:05] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: you want to run windows?
[01:06] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger: I just want to figure out what i need to put in grub.lst to point to the windows installation
[01:06] <billybigrigger> https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/index.html
[01:06] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: oooh
[01:07] <pw-toxic> hi, i'd like to know what the different colors of ls mean: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1147499/ls-colors.png  the files wich are marked with dark green cause problems to me, but the light green work fine for me
[01:07] <racecar56> back
[01:07] <pw-toxic> i have no clue whats going on there ;)
[01:07] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: did grub detect windows?
[01:08] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: look in your menu.lst and see if theres a stanza for windows
[01:08] <susbwoy_> Is there a tool in ubuntu I can use to find out all domains youtube.com has in use?
[01:08] <ldiamond> I made nvidia rewrite my xorg.conf and now I have no sound. Can anyone give me a hand fixing this?
[01:08] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  There is - it's the one I put there.  How can I compell grub to attempt to detect windows?
[01:08] <bastidrazor> pw-toxic, use ls -al and you'll see the permissions and ownership.. that should explain it a bit more
[01:08] <Eevee> pw-toxic: what do you mean, 'cause problems'?
[01:08] <racecar56> !fstab | racecar56
[01:09] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: Put your Windows stanza before or after AUTOMAGIC KERNEL LIST in the menu.lst
[01:10] <MaT-dg1> looking for a lightweight torrent client, preferably cross-platform, lot's of features (through plugins is also ok) like azureus/vuze
[01:10] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: can you pastebin your menu.list so i can see it btw?
[01:11] <bastidrazor> !torrent > MaT-dg1
[01:11] <ha1331> any suggestions how I could receive data in tcp/udp (not http) and be able to handle the data using php?
[01:12] <ctmjr> MaT-dg1, if you like azureus/vuze there is one for linux in the repo's
[01:13] <MaT-dg1> ctmjr: using it atm but lately it started crashing pretty often and I'm looking for a (lightweight) native client with the saem features as azureus/vuze (wich I like very much)
[01:14] <billybigrigger> try deluge
[01:14] <billybigrigger> deluge is lot lighter than azureus/vuze
[01:14] <racecar56> when i modify the order of the applets on the panel it dosent save changes when i log out, how to fix
[01:15] <billybigrigger> the applets on the right side?
[01:15] <billybigrigger> by the clock and time and such?
[01:15] <billybigrigger> racecar56::: ?
[01:15] <racecar56> billybigrigger, just the stuffs on panels
[01:15] <racecar56> billybigrigger, or in my case panel
[01:16] <racecar56> billybigrigger, they go nuts in order and they don't save changes
[01:16] <billybigrigger> which panel? top or bottom panel?
[01:16] <racecar56> billybigrigger, i have only a bottom panel
[01:16] <MaT-dg1> billybigrigger: it seems deluge's features can compete with azureus/vuze's, I'll try it out :)
[01:16] <racecar56> billybigrigger, i customized it
[01:16] <billybigrigger> racecar56::: show me
[01:16] <billybigrigger> cronic84
[01:16] <araku> what's a good open source free linux download manager
[01:16] <racecar56> billybigrigger, wait i found why
[01:16] <billybigrigger> hehe
[01:16] <racecar56> wxdfast?
[01:16] <billybigrigger> why?
[01:16] <jrib> araku: d4x ?
[01:16] <racecar56> billybigrigger, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-panel/+bug/44082 that is why D:
[01:18] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  Well, I can't connect with the computer in question.  What will make grub detect windows and insert the stanza itself?
[01:18] <scunizi> Is there a color "sipper" tool for gnome to discover the RGBa numerical number of an onscreen color?
[01:18] <topchef> anyone have experience with Ubuntu Remix on Asus EEE pc?
[01:19] <ibmman> on <racecar56> ibmman, then sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[01:19] <ibmman> what file system type do i pick
[01:19] <ibmman> for floppy
[01:19] <racecar56> ibmman, it should detect automatically
[01:19] <racecar56> ibmman, maybe the floppy is damage
[01:19] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: i asked you to pastebin your menu.lst
[01:19] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: lets have a look
[01:20] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: i don't know about grub legacy, but i know grub 2 with probe for os's
[01:20] <topchef> anyone anyone?
[01:20] <billybigrigger> s/with/will
[01:20] <ibmman> alexander@alexander-station:~$ sudo mount /dev/fd0 /mnt
[01:20] <ibmman> mount: you must specify the filesystem type
[01:20] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  I can't paste it because I can't connect with that computer
[01:21] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: well i can't help much more
[01:21] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: whats your error?
[01:21] <mparker5398> im gitting an error message when i download updates please help
[01:22] <ctmjr> TwoToneSpirit, try sudo update-grub
[01:22] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger, ctmjr: error 22
[01:23] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, dun dun
[01:23] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, that one drove me nuts for quite some time
[01:24] <billybigrigger> well google
[01:24] <billybigrigger> grub errorr 22
[01:24] <billybigrigger> 22 : No such partition
[01:24] <billybigrigger> edit your menu.lst again
[01:24] <billybigrigger> whatever entry you have for windows isn't right
[01:24] <{newbie}> hi does anyonw know where can i find the mysql/bin directory?
[01:25] <billybigrigger> {newbie} locate mysql
[01:25] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56, ctmjr, billybigrigger: error 22 is apparently that the multiboot kernel must load before modules.  What does this mean?
[01:25] <mparker5398> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:25] <mparker5398> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:25] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  I took out the entry for windows, and yet the problem persists
[01:25] <jrib> mparker5398: did you try doing what it says?
[01:26] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: Error 22 is no partition, so what ever your trying to boot, has the wrong config in menu.lst
[01:26] <mparker5398> im new to ubuntu and dont no how to do anything yet
[01:26] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: where are you getting your info?
[01:27] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, if i were you i'd reinstall grub
[01:27] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, maybe that would help
[01:27] <MaT-dg1> topchef: I installed a ubuntu based distro on a eee700 couple of months ago
[01:27] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56:  sounds wonderful!  How?
[01:27] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: sudo grub
[01:28] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: grub> find /grub/stage1
[01:28] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, it's on a thread lemme find it
[01:28] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, nvm billy has it
[01:28] <billybigrigger> root (hdX,X)
[01:28] <billybigrigger> setup (hdX)
[01:28] <scott_> i'm having a few problems with my tv card, I can't seem to get the colour right, and I don't have my tv standard to select either, i should be using PAL-I
[01:28] <scott_>  with NTSC, I see the picture but with no colour
[01:28] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56:  I have looked, and i can't find the definitive "reinstall grub" thread
[01:28] <billybigrigger> quit and reboot
[01:28] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, ill help
[01:28] <scott_> the input source is an xbox 360 :D
[01:28] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: i just typed it out to you
[01:28] <scott_> via composite
[01:28] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger: find /grub/stage1 gives error 15.  find /boot/grub/stage1 give (h1, 1)
[01:29] <billybigrigger> then  use 1,1
[01:29] <billybigrigger> for X,X
[01:29] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=117829&postcount=2
[01:29] <TwoToneSpirit> What is find /boot/grub/stage1 telling me?
[01:29] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: root (hd1,1)
[01:29] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: setup (hd1)
[01:29] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: quit and reboot
[01:29] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, notice that dosent say anything about find /boot/grub/stage1
[01:30] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  What is the find command telling me?
[01:30] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: where to setup grub
[01:30] <billybigrigger> TwoToneSpirit::: its telling you where your boot partition is
[01:31] <TwoToneSpirit> billybigrigger:  Because it is set this way in my bios?  I actually don't want it at hd1,1
[01:31] <racecar56> does ubuntu work with a Intel PRO/1000 MT Desktop (82540EM)?
[01:31] <sebsebseb> !intel | racecar56
[01:31] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's not a graphics adapter silly :P
[01:31] <jrib> mparker5398: did you see my question?
[01:31] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's a network adapter
[01:31] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ah ok
[01:32] <mparker5398> no
[01:32] <zuluu> anyone here who could help me with ip masquerading?
[01:32] <racecar56> sebsebseb, hint: virtualbox has emulation for it
[01:32] <jrib> mparker5398: did you try doing what the error message you pasted says to do?
[01:32] <sebsebseb> racecar56:  well  for problem hardware, the host can be used, when it comes to virtual machines
[01:32] <jrib> !who | mparker5398
[01:32] <{newbie}> billybigrigger: the mysql executables are inside the bin folder :\
[01:32] <Harryy> Hi, how would I go about removing apache? I never installed it, yet sudo apt-get remove apache / apache2 does not work
[01:32] <Harryy> Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch Server at
[01:32] <sk1> What package do I need to install in Ubuntu to be able to read a mac partition map?
[01:32] <Harryy> I usually use lighttpd
[01:33] <jrib> Harryy: you want apache2-common (or something similar)
[01:33] <ctmjr> scott_, what program are you using to watch tv with
[01:33] <alinon> anyone here familiar with dosbox? trying to figure out why when i create a shortcut to dosbox, it doesnt load my config file
[01:33] <Harryy> jrib, does not work either :| Just says it is not installed.
[01:33] <Harryy> thoug it is
[01:33] <jrib> Harryy: pastebin
[01:34] <hotkoi> hi
[01:34] <mparker5398> no im new to ubuntu and dont know mutch about it yet
[01:34] <zuluu> is there anyone here who can help me with networking?
[01:34] <AutoMatriX> Hi folks, does ther anoyone konw if there is some kind of software for real-time target shooting analysis ?
[01:34] <alinon> like if i go to terminal to start dosbox it loads my config file fine, but using a desktop shortcut it bypasses the config file
[01:34] <hotkoi> does someone know how to customize the gnome panel?
[01:34] <Harryy> jrib, http://pastebin.com/m2d46dff7
[01:34] <hotkoi> like icon size, max width etc.
[01:35] <zuluu> hotkoi, right click it?
[01:35] <ctmjr> hotkoi, right click it
[01:35] <hotkoi> no
[01:35] <jrib> Harryy: and why you believe it is installed
[01:35] <hotkoi> the icons of the panels for ech program
[01:35] <zuluu> ctmjr lol
[01:35] <hotkoi> i dont want the text
[01:35] <Harryy> jrib, when I go to my website it says Apache/2.2.11 (Ubuntu) PHP/5.2.6-3ubuntu4.1 with Suhosin-Patch Server at harryy.no-ip.biz Port 80
[01:35] <Harryy> :3
[01:35] <zuluu> hotkoi what text?
[01:35] <hotkoi> just the programs icon but in 48x48 pixels
[01:35] <sebsebseb> mparker5398: what do you want to do?
[01:35] <jrib> Harryy: by the way, apache2-common isn't even a package.  Try the "similar" one
[01:36] <hotkoi> dont know how to call them
[01:36] <hotkoi> bars?
[01:36] <zuluu> hotkoi, i think you want to make your panel look like MAC right?
[01:36] <hotkoi> windows 7 :P
[01:36] <Harryy> jrib, tell me exactly what command do do, please.
[01:36] <zuluu> hotkoi, lol, have you tried gnome-do?
[01:36] <mparker5398> im getting an error when updateing
[01:36] <hotkoi> i like the idea of removing the text- i remeber the program by its icon ;)
[01:36] <jrib> Harryy: search for a package with "apache" and "common" in the name.  Remove that one
[01:36] <sk1> is there a package that contains the kernel modules for apple partition support in ubuntu?
[01:36] <syn-ack> hotkoi: in that case just install KDE and you will have a windows 7 desktop. :D
[01:36] <hotkoi> no
[01:37] <hotkoi> kde is too buggy
[01:37] <sebsebseb> mparker5398: what's the error?
[01:37] <zuluu> !gnome-do
[01:37] <syn-ack> hah
[01:37] <sk1> and where is the mac-fdisk package in ubuntu?
[01:37] <hotkoi> in my opinion :P
[01:37] <zuluu> !gnomedo
[01:37] <Harryy> jrib, how do I search for what I have installed? I am on terminal-only ubuntu
[01:37] <hotkoi> so, does anyone jknow eher i find the panels config files?
[01:37] <hotkoi> *where
[01:37] <ctmjr> !docky
[01:37] <racecar56> prolly somewhere in .gnome2
[01:37] <jrib> Harryy: aptitude search '~i~napache~ncommon'
[01:37] <racecar56> ~/.gnome2
[01:37] <mparker5398> E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.
[01:37] <mparker5398> E: _cache->open() failed, please report.
[01:37] <jrib> mparker5398: do you want help?
[01:37] <racecar56> sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:37] <hotkoi> mkay
[01:37] <sebsebseb> mparker5398: ok open the terminal and run that command
[01:38] <syn-ack> hrm, I wonder if there have been any new updates to karmic in the last hour. :D
[01:38] <racecar56> mparker5398,  sudo dpkg --configure -a
[01:38] <Harryy> thanks jrib ^_^
[01:38] <mparker5398> im new and dont know how to do that
[01:38] <sebsebseb> !karmic |  syn-ack
[01:38] <syn-ack> haha
[01:38] <jrib> !who | mparker5398
[01:38] <sebsebseb> mparker5398: system > administaration > terminal
[01:38] <Harryy> there goes my uptime D:
[01:38] <zuluu> mparker5398, then just type those commands above
[01:39] <syn-ack> sebsebseb: it was merely a random thought. :D
[01:39] <sebsebseb> syn-ack: ah ok
[01:41] <entraide-net> hi someone know how to make the linuxant hsfmodem (conexant) work on hardy 64 bits with the driver and the alsa-driver patch ?
[01:41] <hotkoi> you're sure?
[01:41] <hotkoi> windows 7 is aa lot more stable
[01:41] <hotkoi> and looks better :P
[01:41] <sebsebseb> hotkoi: I suggest you try  a few Linux distros, before you say Windows 7 is better than Linux
[01:41] <hotkoi> i just want to make my gnome a bit more... efficient :D
[01:41] <racecar56> windows sucks in all cases
[01:41] <jawall> 9.04 for PPC, running live cd... gparted saw 10 partitions most of which were under 50k, now gone... it shows 152 megs of a 160 gig drive.. how can i completely wipe the drive ?
[01:42] <syn-ack> racecar56: Thats a pretty biased comment as well
[01:42] <sebsebseb> !themes  |  hotkoi
[01:42] <racecar56> i bet windows 7 dosen't run on this comp like ubuntu
[01:42] <ctmjr> !ot
[01:42] <entraide-net> windows 7 is just decent ... they make it simple but it's still the big one with low performance ... they just taken drivers at their charge with codecs ... but that mean a real monopolistic issue
[01:43] <hotkoi> no themes
[01:43] <hotkoi> its working
[01:43] <hotkoi> i dont stufy it, so i dont play with my computers- i use them for real stuff :P
[01:43] <hotkoi> *study
[01:43] <hotkoi> so, i found tons of config files
[01:44] <sebsebseb> hotkoi: maybe your trolling, or you don't know that much about Linux yet hum
[01:44] <entraide-net> hotkoi try Slitaz for a low end pc (old crapware) and linux mint on a good or new pc ...
[01:44] <jawall> how to completely wipe drive when it only recognizes one parition..
[01:44] <jawall> why is it windows vs ubuntu
[01:44] <faileas> hotkoi: what kinda specs
[01:44] <jawall> thought this was a support channel...
[01:44] <hotkoi> its linux mint 7 on the desktop
[01:44] <entraide-net> till that you don't know even a little what linux can do ...
[01:45] <hotkoi> anyway i dont know hy they didnt copy the "superbar"
[01:45] <sebsebseb> jrib: Still about?  Maybe you can sort out the off topic
[01:45] <hotkoi> its a quite good idea
[01:45]  * faileas is running lxde on an old comp. other than it going crazy when apt checks for updates, it works REALLY well
[01:45] <faileas> i don't get how it can handle youtube, and playing movies, and not apt  ;p
[01:45] <jrib> please stay on-topic guys....  Take non-support discussion to #ubuntu-offtopic
[01:46] <entraide-net> faileas I maked my Slitaz live usb and I won't live without it
[01:46] <Eevee> hotkoi: while I would like to see an improved taskbar, the superbar kinda sucks.  it's the ancient "collapse similar windows" from XP etc but with big icons
[01:46] <Eevee> but speaking of
[01:46] <TheFuzzball> Does anyone know of an in-browser terminal emulator?
[01:46] <tyrosine> >> IN ALSA: I have two sound cards (0 and 1), how do I switch their order? (aka: set card 1 as card 0)
[01:46] <Eevee> IS there an alternative to the window list panel?
[01:46] <alinon> if i run dosbox from terminal it loads my config file just fine, but if i try to use a desktop shortcut i've created it bypasses the config file
[01:46] <faileas> entraide-net: tried it, its not bad. but it needs a fair amount of ram in live mode last i tried it
[01:46] <jawall> thanks for the flames...
[01:46] <jawall> nice support channel
[01:46] <alinon> can't figure out why O.O
[01:46] <entraide-net> TheFuzzball, try guake on gnome ...
[01:47] <TheFuzzball> entraide-net: that's a drop-down terminal, I want a terminal that is inside of my web browser.
[01:47] <faileas> TheFuzzball: isn't that a security risk?
[01:48] <Eevee> TheFuzzball: umm.  why?
[01:48] <faileas> i vaguely rememeber webmin might allow you to run commands though, or some other thing that was depriciated
[01:49] <TheFuzzball> faileas: kind of, but only if the page isn't encrypted and you don't have a strong password
[01:49] <TheFuzzball> Eevee: So I can access my box from computers without puTTY :D
[01:49] <TheFuzzball> Eevee: and because it's cool.
[01:50] <entraide-net> there is no terminal in browser as far as I know but an old tutorial can embed it on your wallpaper ...
[01:50] <faileas> TheFuzzball: well, if you could write an ssh client in java... ;p
[01:50] <Eevee> I have in fact seen an ssh client in java
[01:50] <halberd> is there another way to switch virtual consoles, besides ctrl-alt- and a function key?
[01:50] <TheFuzzball> So far I've found Anytem and Ajaxterm, but there is no package in Ubuntu's repos.
[01:51] <Eevee> but I don't know why you'd want to do that instead of use an ssh client
[01:51] <TheFuzzball> I remember finding one that was in the repos
[01:51] <entraide-net> ctrl+alt+F1 or backspace depend of your needs
[01:51] <TomV-415> I'm using two monitors in separate X workspaces.. After configuring my nvidia settings for that, I have lost my title bar as soon as I enable any visual effects.
[01:52] <entraide-net> TheFuzzball just compile a source ...
[01:52] <TomV-415> (title bar for all windows)
[01:52] <entraide-net> TomV-415 compiz is a worthless project it was always buggy
[01:53] <TomV-415> I love those rotating cube desktops... any other options?
[01:53] <entraide-net> just cut it down for now
[01:53] <TomV-415> rotating cube workspaces that is..
[01:53] <entraide-net> just use it when it's really needed
[01:54] <entraide-net> with a shortcut to enable/disable it
[01:54] <entraide-net> check www.ubuntu1501.com a little for a decent tutorial ...
[01:54] <Rikki_tikki> hmmm....
[01:55] <racecar56> i think i got ubuntu 9.04 to work on 128 megs of ram O_O
[01:55] <jayferd> \exit
[01:55] <nizar> join #css
[01:55] <sebsebseb> racecar56: how?  with a 512MB or so SWAP?
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's a live cd, i dont know
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, it's a vbox machine
[01:56] <sebsebseb> racecar56: have you already got a swap on there?
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, idk how i did it
[01:56] <TomV-415> thanks entraide-net, anyone else have any suggestions - have you seen the titlebar disapear?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> racecar56:  Vbox with 128MB RAM???
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, its a blank disk
[01:56] <entraide-net> compiz project was supposed to die and kde4 is so bloated that most people are using gnome or kde 3 ...
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, no no no silly the vm has 128 megs
[01:56] <racecar56> sebsebseb, my host pc has 1 gig
[01:57] <sebsebseb> racecar56: right well Virtualbox does it's virtual RAM differnetly from pshyical RAM
[01:57] <sebsebseb> racecar56: or something like that
[01:57] <racecar56> sebsebseb, umm it ran somewhat (the vm) but it's like hanged
[01:57] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i didn't expect it to work
[01:57] <TomV-415> Does gnome have the rotating cube?
[01:57] <Pyrotecnix> yeah
[01:57] <Pyrotecnix> sorta
[01:57] <sebsebseb> TomV-415: no that's Compiz
[01:57] <entraide-net> TomV-415 don't dream too much I was having the same problems on many linux distros on a few years ...
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !compiz | TomV-415
[01:57] <racecar56> sebsebseb, what about qemu, is it different with its ram
[01:57] <hotkoi> another question: how can i find a metadata-file? its not find *.metadata -type f or?!
[01:57] <sebsebseb> racecar56: oh been awhile since I did anything with Qemu, but that was fun to do
[01:58] <Ganymede> is there a way i can set elevator=noop for internal hard drives only and keep elevator=cfq as the default for USB drives? i'd like to apply the noop scheduler to internal disks as early as possible in the boot process
[01:58] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i am trying to make a remaster
[01:58] <sebsebseb> racecar56:  I guess same thing for Qemu,  also Qemu is an actsaul hardare emulater unlike Virtualbox
[01:58] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ja
[01:58] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ya
[01:58] <TomV-415> It all worked great until I split my two desktops..
[01:58] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i like qemu as it's lightweight but vbox is more fast
[01:58] <TomV-415> (that is using dual monitors, split into two separate x sessions.)
[01:58] <Eevee> hotkoi: find . -name \*.metadata -type f
[01:59] <hotkoi> thanks!
[01:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb, trying ubuntu 9.04 again with 256 ram in vbox
[01:59] <sebsebseb> racecar56: what's your host OS?
[01:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ubuntu 9.04, what else
[01:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb, heh heh
[01:59] <racecar56> sebsebseb, "I don't do windows"
[01:59] <sebsebseb> racecar56: well 9.04 in a vm that's a bit boring,   Karmic alpha2 would be more fun,  oh and Fedora 11 in a vm :)
[01:59] <Boom_Farmer> Question: do I download Eclipse from the 9.04 repository, or do I install and compile from source from the eclipse website?
[01:59] <halberd> why does runlevel tell me I'm in runlevel 2 (yes I know ubuntu doesn't really use runlevels)?
[01:59] <halberd> I have kde running
[02:00] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i don't want my first distro based on karmic yet
[02:00] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i want to try on something stable
[02:00] <slashdut> man I hate when some other window manager messes up the alt+-> combination :(
[02:00] <halberd> I want to be in runlevel 5, I think
[02:00] <racecar56> sebsebseb, and i like the 'set focus under mouse' thingy too
[02:00] <slashdut> !runlevel
[02:00] <sebsebseb> racecar56: whatever that is?
[02:00] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i'm seeing the vbox vm while having xchat in back
[02:01] <Eevee> whoa, focus-follow-mouse drives me crazy
[02:01] <Eevee> I knock my mouse out of the way all the time
[02:01] <jtaji> halberd: redhat-like distros use 3 and 5, debian-like distros use 2 always
[02:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Xchat hum  Konversation :)
[02:01] <slashdut> what is runlevel? some permissions perhaps? :P
[02:01] <halberd> jtaji, wikipedia says that runlevel 2 on ubuntu has most network services disabled
[02:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, umm im not kde and by the way 256 is much better
[02:01] <halberd> and that runlevel 5 has a gui login, as well as virtual consoles
[02:01] <jtaji> halberd: that is incorrect
[02:01] <sebsebseb> racecar56: you can run KDE apps inside Gnome :d
[02:01] <halberd> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Runlevel#Ubuntu
[02:01] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i know
[02:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb, even fluxbox too
[02:02] <halberd> and I can't get to any virtual consoles
[02:02] <halberd> ctrl-alt-function key doesn't work
[02:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb, and wmaker (my fave window manager :D)
[02:02] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ah ok
[02:02] <racecar56> sebsebseb, im on gnome now
[02:02] <sebsebseb> racecar56: yeah and we were offtopic, but the channel didn't have much life in it either
[02:03] <racecar56> sebsebseb, i have a bit of an old computer so i like to use wmaker
[02:03] <topchef> can someone help my diagnose my wifi issues?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> topchef: no, but this might be useful
[02:03] <sebsebseb> !wireless | topchef
[02:04] <sebsebseb> racecar56: ah ok
[02:04] <topchef> ubottu:  i've tried that
[02:04] <slashdut> topchef: :D
[02:04] <topchef> or that is sebseb i've tried it
[02:04] <sebsebseb> !bot | topchef
[02:04] <halberd> how can I check to see if I  have any virtual consoles? (attempting to switch to them doesn't work)
[02:04] <topchef> i know, i was just responding and reading
[02:04] <racecar56> sebsebseb, an old compaq sr1010zz #pu166av (the ctos are better =D) i rescued from the trash
[02:04] <halberd> is there a command I can run that will list virtual consoles?
[02:04] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Puppy LInux  will probably work well on there,  and DSL
[02:05] <jtaji> halberd: ps aux | grep getty
[02:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb, im sure it would but this thing is good enough to run intrepid
[02:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb, the most intense (i think) one
[02:05] <ubnewbee> anyone know when 8.04 will stop being supported offhand?  It works well with my PCMCIA wireless card without me having to do a thing to it or the OS.
[02:05] <TwoToneSpirit> Well, now I
[02:05] <ctmjr> !llts
[02:05] <TwoToneSpirit> well, now I'm just getting the grub menu when I boot.
[02:05] <slashdut> topchef: i would like to help you, but could you explain your problem?
[02:05] <sebsebseb> racecar56: Intrepid is good, but sadly  suppourt on the desktop runs out next April
[02:05] <jtaji> ubnewbee: august 07 for desktop
[02:05] <topchef> no matter what i try to do i can't get it to link up to my wifi router(though the computer i'm typing on right now is on the same router)
[02:05] <halberd> jtaji, that says I do have tty1-6
[02:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb, don
[02:05] <ctmjr> !lts
[02:05] <TwoToneSpirit> I mean I'm getting a grub prompt when I boot.
[02:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb, don
[02:05] <racecar56> sebsebseb, ARG
[02:06] <FloodBot3> racecar56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:06] <racecar56> sebsebseb, don't care as im on 9.04
[02:06] <topchef> i'm running an Asus EEEpc 701SD with ubuntu 8.0.4 and Remix
[02:06] <entraide-net> racecar56 Slitaz 2.0 the best little distro I know for 30 Mo live cd or 1 Go live dvd with all softwares included ...
[02:06] <topchef> i've tried connecting, but it fails every time
[02:06] <racecar56> i got pwn'd for my dumb repetitive typos :P
[02:06] <jtaji> ubnewbee: err, april 11 :p
[02:06] <ubnewbee> Thank you for the answer!  :)
[02:07] <slashdut> topchef: does it say anything when it fails to connect?
[02:07] <entraide-net> personnaly I use it with the mount command for the dvd iso to have everything on the live cd
[02:07] <racecar56> oh and that was my first 'ban' :o
[02:07] <racecar56> brb
[02:08] <owen1> setxkbmap dvorak shows me: Couldn't interpret _XKB_RULES_NAMES property
[02:08] <owen1> Use defaults: rules - 'xorg' model - 'pc105' layout - 'us'
[02:08] <ubnewbee> Thanks jtaji, that would be 2011?
[02:08] <jtaji> ubnewbee: yes
[02:08] <owen1> and arrows keys/window key/ctrl-up/down stops working. any ideas?
[02:08] <slashdut> does anyone know how to solve the alt+-> key issue in irssi?
[02:08] <owen1> slashdut: what issue?
[02:09] <ubnewbee> should give me enough time to work out the details with 9.04, I appreciate the answer, thank you.
[02:09] <slashdut> owen1: I cant change window in irssi
[02:09] <topchef> slashdut it just says "the network connection was disconnected"
[02:09] <owen1> slashdut: is it working with /window move #
[02:09] <topchef> it sees the router in the wifi router list
[02:09] <slashdut> owen1: yes
[02:09] <owen1> slashdut: what terminal are u using?
[02:09] <ubnewbee> Also need to get a kernel version that VMWare workstation will work with, 9.04 wasn't recognized and too much pain to configure VMWare for.  Is VirtualBox supported under 9.04?
[02:10] <slashdut> owen1: Terminator
[02:10] <owen1> slashdut: can u try something else? i use xterm/urxvt and it's ok
[02:10] <slashdut> owen1: yeah I think so
[02:11] <slashdut> owen1: but it always worked in 8.10 :P
[02:12] <owen1> slashdut: sorry to hear that. just try with xterm. if it's working it means terminator uses those keys. maybe u can edit the key mapping of terminator.
[02:12] <Raydris> hello
[02:12] <entraide-net> hi up to witch kernel can I use on hardy ? (for hardwares issues and I got to compile a custom kernel for my needs)
[02:12] <entraide-net> which ...
[02:13] <Raydris> i have a question
[02:13] <Raydris> about the ubuntu OS
[02:13] <hardbop200> hi all - I installed hardy from the minimal install disk, installed xfce4 but got no menu support, etc. is there a trick to getting a working xfce install?
[02:13] <sebsebseb> !ask | Raydris
[02:13] <slashdut> owen1: yeah well the funny thing is that its kinda random if it works or not :p...if im lucky it works if not it fails :D
[02:13] <tehboriz> i can't boot, my linux says that it has no read permissions to /user/home/ how do i fix that and why did it ask?
[02:13] <Raydris> oh sorry im new umm ok well...
[02:14] <Raydris> ok i just got a laptop that has ubuntu preinstalled, is there any way to fully install windows on it without using virtualbox and grub?
[02:14] <mikeshollen> How can I change my keychain password in ubuntu 8.04
[02:14] <Kaner1> hey guys, can anyone help me get 1024x768 max res?
[02:14] <entraide-net> hardbop200 : in the terminal > sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop
[02:14] <owen1> slashdut: try to be lucky
[02:14] <hardbop200> entraide-net: thank you, I will do that!  :)
[02:15] <Pici> Raydris: Just install windows.  You can get help doing that in ##windows
[02:15] <chalcedony> any idea what wireshark is called if you want to reinstall it?  apt-get --reinstall wireshark    E: Invalid operation wireshark
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Raydris: you can probably dual boot  Ubuntu and Windows
[02:15] <Pici> chalcedony: apt-get install --reinstall wireshark
[02:15] <Kaner1> my wireless strength is about half of what it is in winxp, can anybody help w/ that?
[02:15] <entraide-net> Raydris don't dream ...
[02:15] <chalcedony> Pici: ty :))
[02:15] <slashdut> chalcedony: use synaptic :)
[02:15] <sebsebseb> Raydris: depending on the computer you have,  the amount of RAM as well
[02:16] <chalcedony> slashdut: do i have to?
[02:16] <entraide-net> virtualbox is the easiest VM manager and grub is needed or you can use lilo ...
[02:16] <slashdut> chalcedony: hehe no :P
[02:16] <chalcedony> good
[02:16] <slashdut> slashdut: but if you want to :)
[02:16] <entraide-net> or do a dual-boot with windows and linux
[02:16] <racecar56> back
[02:17] <ubnewbee> exit
[02:17] <ubnewbee> oops, sorry
[02:17] <slashdut> :D
[02:17] <entraide-net> Kanerl there is multiple type of wireless switch to another one
[02:17] <slashdut> I should try to get some sleep but I dont want to :P
[02:17] <MarkTraceur> Hey all
[02:17] <chalcedony> E error seems to mean you have synaptic open ;)
[02:18] <slashdut> MarkTraceur: hey :P
[02:18] <entraide-net> some can help me about my custom kernel needs ?
[02:18] <MarkTraceur> Anyone know about draggable right-click in 9.04? My friend is having troubles and I'm not sure how to fix it
[02:18] <MarkTraceur> You can do it in 8.10, he says.
[02:20] <zuluu> hello, can anyone help me configure my networking
[02:20] <entraide-net> MarkTraceur 9.04 is just a stable version to be sure to have all what you need you should stick with the LTS release like 8.04
[02:20] <racecar56> i see that 9.04 introduces a fade on the desktop when switching backgrounds, is gnome turning into.... BLOATED KDE??
[02:20] <slashdut> MarkTraceur: sry I dont really understand the question :P.... do you meen that it is possible to drag folders with right click?:P
[02:20] <myself> i am myself
[02:20] <racecar56> myself, lol
[02:20] <entraide-net> racecar56 yes soon ...
[02:20] <mikeshollen> Can anyone tell me how to change my keychain password in 8.04
[02:20] <racecar56> entraide-net, shoot, i wanted a nice de for my old comp D:
[02:20] <MarkTraceur> Slashdut: No, you can right-click and drag to open a context menu on multiple items.
[02:21] <slashdut> MarkTraceur: aah okey I see :)
[02:21] <Yeyui> My new MX Revolution mouse shows up with "xinput list" but it doesn't do anything - Doesn't move the cursor, doesn
[02:21] <Yeyui> ...doesn't make any events show up with xev.
[02:21] <jrib> Yeyui: fwiw, mine works ootb
[02:21] <entraide-net> hopefully the next ubuntu based distro to watch should be lubuntu (lxde + ubuntu) I'll switch when it will be released and will never use gnome/kde again ...
[02:22] <racecar56> yay
[02:22] <racecar56> maybe i should make it
[02:22] <racecar56> :P
[02:22] <racecar56> i'm bad at remasters so far
[02:22] <slashdut> entraide-net: whats wrong with gnome? :P
[02:22] <racecar56> well.. actually not too bad
[02:22] <entraide-net> gnome suck
[02:22] <racecar56> slashdut, it's turning into BLOATED KDE!!!
[02:22] <Pici> !offtopic
[02:23] <racecar56> slashdut, aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa*five million lines oh aaah go here*
[02:23] <slashdut> racecar56: do u think so :P
[02:23] <racecar56> slashdut, kind of
[02:23] <q0_0p> ubuntu its looking better and nice in my opinion
[02:23] <q0_0p> about the bloatness
[02:23] <racecar56> slashdut, it fades when u change background and it makes my comp *LAAAAG*
[02:23] <Pici> racecar56, slashdut: This is a support channel, if you just want to talk about Ubuntu please join #ubuntu-offtopic
[02:23] <q0_0p> and i notice it doesn't use as much memory like it used to
[02:23] <q0_0p> i agree on KDE being very bloated
[02:23] <slashdut> racecar56: I tried KDE 4 that was bloated as f..k :P
[02:24] <entraide-net> Pici can you tell me if I can use any kernel on hardy or you just can cry like a baby when we talk a little ...
[02:24] <jairobin> hi 2 everyone
[02:24] <racecar56> slashdut, im in #ubuntu-offtopic now meet me there
[02:24]  * entraide-net love living without fears ...
[02:24] <Pici> entraide-net: No need for the attitude... There should be nothing stopping you from using any kernel you want if you want something other than the ones that are in the repos.
[02:25] <entraide-net> thanks
[02:25] <topchef2> suggestions for getting ndiswrapper installed when synaptic doesn't list it,  and when i try to apt-get it it says "couldn't find package ndiswrapper-common"?
[02:28] <entraide-net> topchef compile the sources of ndiswrapper or grab it compiled as a package on the web repositories ...
[02:29] <entraide-net> sudo apt-get install ndiswrapper
[02:29] <topchef2> troed tjat
[02:29] <topchef2> fao;ed
[02:29] <topchef2> tried that
[02:29] <topchef2> failed
[02:30] <entraide-net> http://packages.ubuntu.com/hardy/all/ndiswrapper-common/download (having troubles googling a little ???)
[02:31] <entraide-net> change it if needed for the version you use
[02:33] <thomc> why is it necessary to enclose wildcards in quotes?
[02:36] <mlz09x> #yahoo
[02:40] <q0_0p> !codecs
[02:40] <Animagladius> Hai
[02:40] <Belinrahs> !dualboot
[02:40] <prowler> Can someone help me with kvm?
[02:41] <Belinrahs> Question: Does Compiz Fusion work with x64?
[02:41] <lena_> hi guys
[02:41] <q0_0p> for ubuntu 9.10 codecs dont install from ubuntu-restricted-extras no more?
[02:41] <entraide-net> q0_0p > some linux distros included the codecs (linux mint, crunchbang, ect...)
[02:41] <racecar56> lena_, hi
[02:41] <q0_0p> not a fan of linux mint
[02:41] <lena_> need some help connecting a lexmark printer
[02:41] <q0_0p> of mint commands
[02:42] <vick> i'm running a simulation of something that takes couple of days on my laptop, but sometimes i want to go somewhere, is it possible to hibernate or so such that the state of the program could be saved to later continue ?
[02:42] <entraide-net> proprietary stuff on 9.10 do you dream of the paradice ?
[02:43] <lena_> anybody knows when I loaded the lmark driver, my system, Ubuntu told me I did not have cups1.2 installed, how do I get it_
[02:43] <TwoToneSpirit> NTFS trouble:  I tried to restore GRUB, and eventually I was successful.  However, in the process, I no longer see an NTFS partition which used to appear.  How can I recover it?
[02:43] <q0_0p> if i open ssh can another computer from another network access it?
[02:43] <halberd> vick, yes, depending on your laptop
[02:44] <halberd> you can use pm-suspend
[02:44] <halberd> but... sometimes it doesn't work
[02:44] <halberd> it's also not exactly hibernation, it still draws a little power
[02:44] <epsmith> hello all any ldap admins in here?  What schemas do I need to add to the cn=config cn=shema to run a ldap+samba pdcenvironment
[02:44] <halberd> there's pm-hibernate but that might not work at all
[02:45] <lena_> is this the Swedish conf_
[02:49] <JohnWittle> What is the name of the battery applet?
[02:50] <sivel[a]> sivel: stop taking my nick
[02:51] <fosa> java plugin for firefox, anyone have a guide?
[02:51] <sivel_> hello all
[02:51] <sivel> sivel_: dude...stop using my nick
[02:52] <Rister> Hello all
[02:52] <sivel_> ive been using this "nick" since 95
[02:52] <KyleK> hey at least you can find the other guy using the same nick as you
[02:52] <johnzw> Fosa: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-install-java-runtime-environment-jre-in-ubuntu.html
[02:53] <aoupi> sivel, sivel_: only one way to settle this... duel to the death!
[02:53] <sivel_> heh
[02:53] <fosa> bless you sir johnzw
[02:53] <sivel_> ill change it
[02:53] <sivel> aoupi: at least I have it registered
[02:53] <sivel_> heh
[02:53] <q0_0p> how do i make ssh server accessible outside of the network?
[02:53] <KyleK> to what? not_sivel?
[02:53] <Rister> Does anyone know of a tool to fix the MBR on a netbook?
[02:54] <akravets> hello
[02:54] <sivel27> better now?
[02:54] <KyleK> q0_0p: how do I forward ports? or how do i open ports in my firewall? ;)
[02:54] <johnzw> Rister: that depends on what the problem is
[02:54] <skrite> KyleK, what firewall are you using?
[02:54] <q0_0p> i've all my ports open
[02:54] <mankash> sound of my pc suddenly stop working?
[02:54] <q0_0p> and i'ved /etc/init.d ssh start
[02:54] <q0_0p> ssh is accessible within the network
[02:55] <q0_0p> but not outside
[02:55] <q0_0p> was wondering if anyone could guide me the way
[02:55] <Rister> johnzw: I did a system restore on my Aspire One after having Ubuntu installed on it and my GRUB install is hosed.
[02:55] <KyleK> are you behind a router?
[02:55] <q0_0p> yes
[02:55] <akravets> I installed MSI PC60G wireless card. Work ok, but I observe that connection quality fluctuates between 50-92%. Also the web pages do not load sometimes - like there is lag.
[02:55] <akravets> any ideas?
[02:56] <KyleK> q0_0p: either dmz your linux box or route/forward/redirect (gotta find the right word for it in the routers interface) and make port 22 go to your linux box
[02:56] <q0_0p> ah
[02:56] <johnzw> Rister: do you still have your Ubuntu cd?
[02:56] <q0_0p> i get it
[02:56] <q0_0p> have to enable dmz on the router
[02:56] <KyleK> also some isp block port 22
[02:56] <q0_0p> why
[02:57] <KyleK> q0_0p: dmz is the easiest to do, but forwarding specific ports is more secure
[02:57] <q0_0p> so to dmz my linux box i have to do it within the router settings?
[02:57] <KyleK> yes
[02:57] <q0_0p> k gotcha
[02:57] <mib_qnpno2fg> hello?
[02:57] <Flannel> You shouldn't DMZ it, just port forward
[02:58] <Rister> johnzw: I installed off of a flash drive as an Aspire One doesn't have a CD Drive.  I was hoping to restore the Factory Windows install and dual boot.  I have some DAW software that I want to run under XP.
[02:58] <q0_0p> how do i do that
[02:58] <q0_0p> do i have to mess with iptables to do that?
[02:58] <mib_qnpno2fg> i'm also having issues with my acer
[02:58] <racecar56> !app-install-data-partnet
[02:58] <racecar56> !app-install-data-partner
[02:58] <racecar56> !package info app-install-data-partner
[02:58] <racecar56> !packageinfo app-install-data-partner
[02:58] <racecar56> :/
[02:58] <racecar56> LOL
[02:58] <FloodBot3> racecar56: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[02:58] <racecar56> he muted ubottu
[02:59] <mib_qnpno2fg> netbook remix isn't booting properly anymore
[02:59] <thomc> battle of the bots
[02:59] <KyleK> q0_0p: if your router runs linux why dont you just ssh in to it and then ssh to your linux box?
[02:59] <johnzw> Hmm. If you used your system restore you may not have Ubuntu any more, "system restore" procedures tend to revert the disc to its exact OEM state
[02:59] <mib_qnpno2fg> mine didn't
[02:59] <Rister> I thought so but it didn't touch the MBR
[02:59] <mib_qnpno2fg> just the windows
[02:59] <q0_0p> i want to ssh into my linux box elsewhere
[02:59] <troy> cool, setting up a ubuntu box for a newbee and the default install of xchat goes here...
[02:59] <Rister> OEM state was what I was going for.
[03:00] <troy> pk bye
[03:00] <pahom> hi all
[03:00] <mib_qnpno2fg> can anyone help me with Remix?
[03:00] <KyleK> q0_0p: well, is the router a linux box?
[03:00] <Gahn> what language is ubuntu coded in?
[03:00] <q0_0p> no
[03:00] <q0_0p> the router is not a linux box
[03:00] <Gahn> anyone know?
[03:01] <q0_0p> i guess i should've made that clear
[03:01] <johnzw> Rister: Oh, I misunderstood. So what you want to do is restore your MBR to the state that it was before you installed Ubuntu?
[03:01] <billybigrigger> Gahn::: assembly
[03:01] <Rister> Yes
[03:01] <billybigrigger> Gahn::: or c
[03:01] <Rister> For now.
[03:01] <billybigrigger> Gahn::: why do you google it?
[03:02] <Gahn> i wana program ubunutu and change it around, am i allowed to do that?
[03:02] <Gahn> or is there a license
[03:02] <billybigrigger> gahn go ahead
[03:02] <billybigrigger> no license
[03:02] <Gahn> woo
[03:02] <billybigrigger> hence the words open source software
[03:02] <thiebaude> !gpl
[03:02] <pieces> what is the main lang ubuntu in programed in?
[03:02] <billybigrigger> assembly and c
[03:02] <Gahn> so it is a licsense?
[03:02] <billybigrigger> i just said that
[03:02] <Rister> With some C++ and Python
[03:02] <FrankDrebin> gpl isnt really free, you need to licence your changes under gpl
[03:03] <jellulabo> Having some sound issues. No sound in my user account. Started with intrepid and continues with Jaunty. Sound works in all other user accounts. Any ideas?
[03:03] <Rister> And maybe some C#
[03:03] <Gahn> i dont understand
[03:03] <Gahn> how can there be more than one language?
[03:03] <pieces> What about the programs in it?  I doubt c# thats all ms
[03:03] <johnzw> So, I'm assuming that you have the ordinary grub menus as they are set up by default on Ubuntu, but do not have an option to boot MS windows because you wiped Windows out with the Ubuntu install process?
[03:03] <Rister> The MONO project isn't MS
[03:03] <johnzw> er, sorry rister:  So, I'm assuming that you have the ordinary grub menus as they are set up by default on Ubuntu, but do not have an option to boot MS windows because you wiped Windows out with the Ubuntu install process?
[03:03] <Mike94287> I'm trying to use the ftp command in terminal to upload an image from my computer to my site. I'm using the command 'put' but it doesn't seem to be working. Here is an example of what I'm trying and the output: http://pastebin.com/m30e8f60e
[03:04] <pieces> Rister, yeah but I can't get forms and stuff to work
[03:04] <billybigrigger> !sound | jellulabo
[03:04] <racecar56> my ubuntu command line install isn't getting internet (ethernet is amd pcnet fast III)
[03:04] <Animagladius> Guys?
[03:04] <mib_qnpno2fg> i have my AA1 partitioned between windows and ubuntu
[03:04] <Animagladius> How do you do that dist-upgrade command? :o
[03:04] <Animagladius> I tried sudo aptitude dist-upgrade
[03:04] <Flannel> Mike94287: Don't use quotes, and use cd in the ftp shell to change your working directory
[03:04] <Rister> johnzw: I left the recovery partition on purpose but the recovery partition didn't restore the MBR. Hence asking for some way to run fixmbr on a nebtook.
[03:04] <billybigrigger> Animagladius::: from what distro?
[03:05] <thiebaude> Animagladius: update-manager -d
[03:05] <mib_qnpno2fg> i was on UNR and was working fine, switched to windows, then back to UNR and can't get anywhere
[03:05] <Flannel> !upgrade | Animagladius
[03:05] <Animagladius> Ubuntu 8.04
[03:05] <Animagladius> Ah, epic, thanks
[03:05] <Flannel> Animagladius: do you have a GUI on this box?
[03:05] <Animagladius> Yep
[03:05] <billybigrigger> thiebaude::: update-manager -d doesn't work in 8.04
[03:05] <thiebaude> billybigrigger: my bad
[03:05] <billybigrigger> :P
[03:05] <thiebaude> :-D
[03:05] <Flannel> thiebaude: -d is only for development releases anyway
[03:05] <Rister> pieces: Winforms projects will run. or so I've heard. but you can't design winforms with monodevelop.  I think mono utilizes bindings for GTK.
[03:05] <thiebaude> yea, i know
[03:05] <Flannel> (as in, before they're released)
[03:05] <Mike94287> Flannel: Thanks, it worked :)
[03:05] <q0_0p> why is it sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get upgrade doesn't always upgrade
[03:06] <thiebaude> Flannel: sorry i hit enter too fast
[03:06] <billybigrigger> Animagladius::: so you want to upgrade FROM 8.04 to what? 8.10?
[03:06] <Flannel> Animagladius: You'll need to make sure you go to software sources and change it to any release, not just LTS
[03:06] <q0_0p> i have to go into update-manager to do it
[03:06] <jrib> q0_0p: dist-upgrade (see man apt-get)
[03:06] <Flannel> q0_0p: What sort of upgrade are you talking about?
[03:06] <Animagladius> I did, Flannel, right in the beginning
[03:06] <billybigrigger> Animagladius::: if you want to go from 8.04 to 9.04 you have to download the 9.04 cd and install that way, or upgrade to 8.10, then 9.04
[03:06] <q0_0p> like packages
[03:06] <q0_0p> update packages
[03:06] <q0_0p> not a dist-upgrade
[03:06] <Animagladius> I think upgrading to 8.10 first is the easier way, right?
[03:06] <jrib> q0_0p: you have not read what dist-upgrade means
[03:07] <Flannel> q0_0p: update / upgrade will upgrade packages (except kernel stuff usually), for that, you have to use dist-upgrade
[03:07] <billybigrigger> Animagladius::: sure
[03:07] <Mike94287> Oh wait, Flannel, it didn't. I misread the output, here it is again: http://pastebin.com/m128dd031
[03:07] <q0_0p> oh ok i guess i should read the man pages for it
[03:07] <q0_0p> my bad
[03:07] <billybigrigger> wow, if only everyone would say that
[03:07] <Flannel> Mike94287: What directory were you in before you started ftp?
[03:07] <billybigrigger> i guess i should read the man pages for it
[03:07] <billybigrigger> haha
[03:08] <Mike94287> Flannel: I wasn't in any custom directory, the command line looked like mike@mike-desktop:~$
[03:09] <Animagladius> K, got it, thanks!
[03:09] <johnzw> Rister: Oh, of course. It might be easiest to leave Grub in place and use it to boot into windows, then you could use a Windows tool (couldn't help you there, haven't used Windows in seven years) to fix the MBR. To do this, I believe that what you have to do is "chain load" the Windows O.S. so... to do that; reboot, and press C for command prompt. and follow the directions under "Load another boot loader" as found here: http://www.linu
[03:09] <Flannel> Mike94287: Try this: put /home/mike/Desktop/screenshot1.png screenshot1.png
[03:09] <johnzw> Your windows is likely in hd0,0 or hd0,1 (in grub terminology)
[03:10] <Mike94287> Flannel: It worked, thanks :)
[03:10] <Flannel> Mike94287: You've likely just uploaded it in ASCII mode though, try "binary" and then that command again
[03:11] <Yanick_> hi, what's the best way to capture windows media player audio streams? I've read about streamtuner and streamripper, but that post was 3 years ago
[03:11] <kaybash> hi
[03:11] <kaybash> is there any quick way to hide other user's processes in ubuntu from ps x ?
[03:11] <shadfc> so i've got a raid 1 array /dev/md1. I'd like to move my /home to be on that but I'm not sure how
[03:11] <kaybash> or does it require kernel recompilation ?
[03:11] <janyo> hi
[03:12] <Rister> johnzw:  Thanks for your help.  I'll probably try installing Ubuntu again, this time in a dual-boot setup.  That should get GRUB set up properly.  I work with Windows on my day job so I can't quite give it up yet.
[03:12] <johnzw> Ok Rister, Great luck!
[03:12] <Mike94287> Flannel: I'm not sure what ASCII mode means, but the image that I uploaded is showing correctly
[03:12] <thiebaude> Yanick_: i installed the w32 codecs from medibuntu to listen to wmv streams
[03:12] <Flannel> Mike94287: Alright, then don't worry about it
[03:13] <janyo> hello
[03:14] <Yanick_> thiebaude, I can listen to asf audio streams, I want to capture them, and ideally, convert them into ogg/mp3
[03:14] <racecar56> my ubuntu command line install isn't getting internet (ethernet is amd pcnet fast III)
[03:14] <janyo> somebody can talk to me??
[03:14] <thiebaude> Yanick_: i dont know how to do that
[03:15] <Yanick_> janyo, yes yes, hi
[03:15] <Yanick_> thiebaude, :)
[03:15] <Amorstus> lol
[03:15] <janyo> Oh hi
[03:15] <paleck> Any ideas on why the bios and lshw see all of my ram, but free doesn't?
[03:15] <Yanick_> thiebaude, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=76658
[03:15] <janyo> I be seen how this found
[03:16] <thiebaude> Yanick_: thanks , that should come in handy
[03:16] <Yanick_> hehe
[03:16] <calmbola> join #coldfusion
[03:16] <kaybash> hi is there any quick way to hide other user's processes from ps x in ubuntu ... or must i recompile my kernel ?
[03:16] <calmbola> oops =)
[03:16] <Yanick_> thiebaude, I thought that, since that post, there was another solution available
[03:16] <Yanick_> coldfusion... ew
[03:16] <Yanick_> :)
[03:17] <racecar56> how do i use dhcp in ubuntu
[03:17] <racecar56> !dhcp
[03:17] <racecar56> hardy har har har
[03:17] <myself> hey does anyone know how to get the 357236 here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts  to work with Transmission
[03:17] <myself> its this http://pastie.org/357236
[03:18] <zuluu> so running remote desktop viewer is just a matter of opening port 5900 right?
[03:18] <Yanick_> thiebaude, here, another one (seems cleaner) http://www.videolan.org/doc/streaming-howto/en/ch06.html#id297783
[03:21] <billybigrigger> zuluu::: you have to enable it first
[03:22] <billybigrigger> zuluu::: you have to allow incoming connections with System>Preferences>Remote Desktop, then open port 5900 on your router
[03:22] <billybigrigger> zuluu::: or have a vnc server setup either or, the former is easier for new users
[03:22] <knasto> Hi, I'm trying to get rid of that envelope thingy that shows up in my notifications applet. What is that pakcage called, so I can delete it?
[03:23] <billybigrigger> you can't get rid of it
[03:24] <zuluu> thanks billybigrigger
[03:24] <bubble> how do I enabled the extra repos? (rescricted,universe,multiverse,etc)
[03:25] <kaybash> hi is there any quick way to hide other user's processes from ps x in ubuntu ... or must i recompile my kernel ?
[03:25] <Ambidextrous> bubble, system > admin > software sources
[03:25] <kaybash> anyone have any idea ?
[03:25] <knasto> By envolope thingy, I mean the thing that shows up everytime I open Pidgin or Evolution. Does anyone know how to remove this?
[03:25] <bubble> Ambidextrous: from the command line
[03:25] <thiebaude> knasto: i removed it by right clicking on it
[03:25] <ctmjr> knasto, yes you can remove it, it is evolution email notification and if your not using it right click on it and remove from panel
[03:26] <zuluu> billybigrigger, since i dont have a router - i could just do it with ufw right?
[03:26] <Ambidextrous> bubble, https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories/CommandLine
[03:26] <Ambidextrous> copy and paste practically
[03:26] <knasto> ckmjr and thiebaude, If i remove it it removes all my systems indicators
[03:26] <paleck> Answered my own question, but for anyone else: For future reference......A Dell Poweredge 400SC bios has an "OS Install Mode" with this mode on it reduces the amount of ram to 256Meg (and apparently this machine ahs been running like this for 2 years and no one noticed)
[03:27] <knasto> ctmjr and thiebaude, If i remove it it removes all my systems indicators
[03:27] <thiebaude> ctmjr: does it remove update notifications?
[03:28] <knasto> oh wait nevermind ctmjr and thiebaude
[03:28] <knasto> its good now
[03:28] <bubble> thank you :-)
[03:28] <kathe> I am so bored, so I thought I would hang out just incase a question is asked that I might know the answer too, so don't mind me
[03:28] <ctmjr> knasto, i removed email help firefox and everything else stayed where it was
[03:28] <kaybash> no one knows hot to remove other users processes from ps aux ?
[03:28] <kaybash> how*
[03:29] <knasto> your right ctmjr, it was my bad
[03:29] <thiebaude> knasto: i removed it and added the pidgin icon
[03:29] <Gahn> so ubuntu isnt completely free...
[03:29] <Gahn> hmm...
[03:29] <Gahn> what should i do now?
[03:29] <Hammerjak> kaybash: grep?
[03:29] <kaybash> Hammerjak: i want to remove other user's process information from ps aux
[03:29] <kaybash> remove as in hide
[03:29] <kaybash> this is easily done in freebsd
[03:29] <Hammerjak> kaybash: grep -v? :)
[03:29] <kaybash> but wondering how its done in ubuntu
[03:29] <zuluu> billybigrigger, the thing is remote desktop is opened for the other NIC. I have 3 NICs on this PC
[03:29] <kaybash> hammerjak, read my question again please.
[03:30] <kaybash> when someone else on the machine does 'ps aux' i do not want them to see MY processes
[03:30] <kaybash> im not asking how to find a process
[03:30] <Hammerjak> ahhh i see
[03:30] <kaybash> :)
[03:30] <kaybash> in freebsd, its just a single line that goes into /etc/rc.conf
[03:30] <Hammerjak> didn't know that.
[03:30] <Hammerjak> you know more than i do on the subject :)
[03:30] <kaybash> i managed to do it in gentoo a few years ago
[03:30] <kaybash> havent done it for a while, was just thinking there'd be an easier way in ubuntu but google returns nothing
[03:31] <thiebaude> knasto: i went into buddy list -tools-prefernces-always show tray icon
[03:31] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[03:31] <knasto> ok thanks thiebaude, i was wondering how to get that back
[03:31] <thiebaude> knasto: im back
[03:32] <thiebaude> knasto: that's how i close pidgin
[03:32] <kaybash> meh
[03:33] <knasto> thiebaude, the systray icon for pidgin shows up now withouth the envelope thingy, thanks for your help
[03:33] <thiebaude> knasto: np
[03:33] <tech0007> !java
[03:33] <kathe> kaybash I think I remember something in the debian guides on it, did you querry for debian or ubuntu
[03:34] <kathe> kaybash here you go http://mydebian.blogdns.org/?p=110
[03:34] <thiebaude> knasto: now one more thing, when you click on a link does it take you to a web page?
[03:35] <Barridus> is the terminal command to stop compiz "compiz --replace"?  i try it but it sorta breaks the environment
[03:35] <ARMENIAN> I installed tracker, but I don't seem to have any type of tool for searching my fiulesa after they're indexed
[03:35] <Barridus> err whoops i meant "metacity --replace"
[03:35] <Emjay> Hey all Im running ubuntu Jaunty amd64 is there a way to fix flash ? everytime i use it ..i lose sound afterwords and have to reboot...and killing pulseaudio doesntfix it any help would rock!
[03:36] <ARMENIAN> Barridus: yeah, I get same thing, you lose the close and minimize and maximize buttons and everythign screwws up right?
[03:36] <kathe> Emjay, I killed off pulseaudio, and then reloaded the flash from repositories
[03:36] <Hammerjak> Barridus: why don't you install fusion-icon
[03:36] <Hammerjak> Barridus: it allows you to switch between metacity and compiz with a tray icon
[03:36] <Emjay> install flashplugin-nonfree kathe ?
[03:36] <slittle> Any GRUB gurus on this chennel
[03:36] <Barridus> Hammerjak, you can't put an icon button in a power manager script
[03:36] <ctmjr> Barridus, have you tried the fusion-icon to control compiz?
[03:36] <Hammerjak> ah
[03:37] <Barridus> i need the command
[03:37] <kathe> Emjay, either flashplugin-nonfree and the additional support package  or just the adobe one, but my sound didn't work and it would crash until I loaded one or the other again
[03:37] <Pici> Barridus: iirc, metacity --replace will remove compiz, compiz --replace for the other way around
[03:37] <musikgoat|main> emjay, i've been having very good results with the 64bit flash alpha
[03:37] <ctmjr> *i should read before typing
[03:37] <Emjay> musikgoat|main,  where did you get it from ?
[03:37] <Barridus> Pici, i thought so too, but it messes up
[03:37] <musikgoat|main> adobe Emjay
[03:37] <tech0007> Barridus, 'metacity --replace &'
[03:37] <Pici> Barridus: How is it messing it up?
[03:38] <Emjay> kathe,  what additional support package ?
[03:39] <G__81> i have a weird problem with 9.04 when i boot into my system it does not start with the GUI mode so i get all those "Oks" while booting when i press Ctrl + f1 i get it for the first time but it again jumps back to the traditional way of displaying OKs but my nvidia stuff all works fine in desktop any clues on how to resolve this ?
[03:39] <wbc> I have Windows installed on an external USB harddrive, and GRUB didn't add it to the list when I installed Ubuntu 9.04. How may I add it myself?
[03:39] <ARMENIAN> how do I entegrate the meta tracker into desktop?
[03:39] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: http://labs.adobe.com/
[03:39] <kathe> Emjay -nonfree-extrasound
[03:39] <thiebaude> !grub
[03:39] <Emjay> ty very much will try this and return
[03:39] <kathe> Emjay or just use the adobe
[03:39] <thiebaude> wbc: i hope that works
[03:40] <slittle> Getting stuck at a "GRUB _" prompt
[03:40] <G__81> can some one help me out with this problem ?
[03:40] <wbc> ubottu: Can grub do boots on USB drives?
[03:40] <wbc> What?
[03:40] <ctmjr> wbc, how did you get windows to install to an external hard drive?
[03:40] <thiebaude> Emjay: i just download the .deb file from the adobe site
[03:40] <acorn1> does anybody know of a way to have xscreensaver run a command every time an incorrect password is tried?
[03:40] <wbc> ctmjr: Some modifications to the Windows install CD
[03:40] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: http://labs.adobe.com/downloads/flashplayer10.html
[03:41] <G__81> musikgoat|main, can you help me with my problem please?
[03:41] <kathe> ctmjr you can slip stream a windows install
[03:41] <kathe> G_
[03:41] <musikgoat|main> G__81: no
[03:41] <G__81> it was working fine all these days but after i installed the updates yesterday
[03:41] <Emjay> im unfamiliar how to install .tar.gz files
[03:41] <Barridus> tech0007, Pici, it appears the & was required.  thanks tech0007.  however, the command produces an error even though the window manager switches, and it "hangs" in terminal and have to ctrl-c to get the next prompt   http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m17ad932a
[03:41] <G__81> something happened
[03:42] <musikgoat|main> emjay, its an archive, there is a single file inside
[03:42] <wellichen> hello everybody, anyone knows where I can find in Jaunty the application that was in Applications > Other > Screens and Graphics  on later editions.
[03:42] <wbc> Is GRUB able to add Windows when it is installed on an external HDD?
[03:42] <v> i have a weird problem with 9.04 when i boot into my system it does not start with the GUI mode so i get all those "Oks" while booting when i press Ctrl + f1 i get it for the first time but it again jumps back to the traditional way of displaying OKs but my nvidia stuff all works fine in desktop any clues on how to resolve this ?
[03:43] <v> can someone help me with this ?
[03:43] <kathe> wellichen, that was replaced with a more robust system, or possibly updated device drivers, what are you trying to do
[03:43] <wbc> !patience | v
[03:43] <phantom-d-_-b> i need help with installing a game in ubuntu
[03:43] <Emjay> ok i see the file...where do i extract it to ?
[03:43] <phantom-d-_-b> !unreal tournament
[03:43] <thomc> v: can you access the GUI mode at all at the moment?
[03:43] <phantom-d-_-b> !ut99
[03:43] <phantom-d-_-b> !goty
[03:44] <Emjay> phantom-d-_-b,  goty doest work well
[03:44] <Emjay> 2004 does
[03:44] <Pici> !msgthebot
[03:44] <wbc> Is the floodbot able to kick ubottu?
[03:44] <phantom-d-_-b> i want to install it though Emjay
[03:44] <v> thomc, i am able to access the GUI Mode perfectly but while booting alone it starts with text mode though if i press ctrl + esc or f1 it just moves to GUI mode i am able to see the taskbar but it again jumps back to the old one
[03:44] <kathe> wbc I think you need to slip stream your windows and install that first, then install the linux os, and grub can handle it
[03:44] <Emjay> you mmight try wine or cedega
[03:44] <v> thomc, my Nvidia video and others work perfectly fine
[03:44] <wbc> kathe, what is slip stream?
[03:44] <wbc> !slipstream
[03:44] <halberd> how is ntp configured on ubuntu--is it working by default?
[03:44] <phantom-d-_-b> i know, but i want native
[03:44] <wbc> !slip_stream
[03:45] <wbc> !slip stream
[03:45] <Emjay> musikgoat|main, where do i put the .so file ?
[03:45] <Pici> !msgthebot | wbc
[03:45] <kathe> wbc slipstream is modifying the windows install,
[03:45] <wbc> kathe: Windows is already installed on the hd
[03:45] <wellichen> kathe, I'm trying to find it, because I think it is more ease to use than to write on the xorg.conf
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: first,  in firefox, go to about:plugins
[03:45] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: and check if you have a shockwave flash plugin registered
[03:45] <v> thomc, any clues?
[03:45] <thomc> v: try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[03:45] <kathe> wbc, great, then you should just be able to install grub ontop and it will take care of it
[03:46] <Emjay> i've uninstalled it musikgoat|main
[03:46] <Emjay> before i install this 64bit
[03:46] <thiebaude> wbc: you going to do a dual boot?
[03:46] <v> thomc, should i use kernel framebuffer interface?
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: ok, then you will put the file in /home/emjay/.mozilla/plugins
[03:46] <wbc> kathe: But I'm used to that grub automatically adds windows to the list
[03:46] <Emjay> 1sec
[03:46] <v> thomc, should i say yes to it ?
[03:46] <wbc> Yes thiebaude
[03:46] <phantom-d-_-b> i have this error: error while loading shared libraries: libgtk-1.2.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[03:46] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: where emjay is replaced with whatever your username is
[03:46] <wellichen> hello everybody, anyone knows where I can find in Jaunty the application that was in Applications > Other > Screens and Graphics  on later editions.
[03:46] <wbc> kathe: when i install ubuntu of course
[03:47] <v> ok its done let me try it again
[03:47] <Emjay> musikgoat|main,  odd i dont seem to have a plugins folder in .mozilla
[03:47] <kathe> wbc exactly, just install ubuntu on that drive, i've never had grub fail me
[03:47] <thiebaude> wbc: oh, you want windows to be first on the grub boot?
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: thats ok, create one
[03:47] <sebsebseb> kathe: well you were lucky then :d
[03:47] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: i didn't either before this
[03:48] <Emjay> kk
[03:48] <wbc> kathe: Winxp didnt get added aparently, because it is installed on an external hd
[03:48] <thomc> v: yes, just go through the options
[03:48] <Emjay> ok done musikgoat|main
[03:48] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: now close and restart firefox
[03:48] <gunther> hello
[03:48] <wbc> thiebaude: windows isnt at the grub list at all
[03:48] <phantom-d-_-b> how do i install libgtk-1.2.so.?
[03:48] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: and check about:plugins for the plugin to be registerd
[03:49] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: and test it out
[03:50] <G__81> hi thomc
[03:50] <slittle> Anyone ever get stuck at a "GRUB _" prompt after install?
[03:50] <gunther> i set up a wireless connection to 802.11g network.  now I need to bridge it.  as soon as I addif with brctl, the connection drops
[03:50] <G__81> thomc, while shutting down the machine i get the GUI perfectly but while starting alone i dont get it
[03:50] <gunther> I can get DHCP address assigned to the interface, but it won't ping nothing.
[03:50] <wellichen> Please help me, I want to find the application that used to be in Applications > Other > Screens and Graphics.
[03:51] <Emjay> musikgoat|main, about:plugins       File name: libflashplayer.so
[03:51] <Emjay>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
[03:51] <Mkop> for some reason, when my wireless disconnects, client applications aren't getting told that it disconnected. I initially thought it was a problem with xchat, that it wouldn't try to reconnect b/c it never realized I had disconnected, but then I realized that ssh is doing the same thing as well
[03:51] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: cool, test it out
[03:51] <Hammerjak> wellichen: what did that application do?
[03:51] <wbc> Which command do I use to see whether the HDD's are hd0 or hd1
[03:51] <wbc> ?
[03:51] <thomc> G__81: ok. so you can boot the machine, but you don't get a graphical login is that right? but you can start the window manager with the startx command?
[03:51] <wellichen> Hammerjak, it is an easy way to choose a proper video driver.
[03:52] <sebsebseb> wbc: I have missed most of your stuff, but if you got enough RAM and your not going to 3D Windows games or some such, you can virtual machine  WIndows inside Ubuntu
[03:52] <gunther> wbc:  df
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> wbc: fdisk -l
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> or df
[03:52] <musikgoat|main> heh
[03:52] <ARMENIAN> is there no way to edit the startup applications menu icons? lol
[03:52] <newscane> I've run into a problem while upgrading from hardy to intrepid...
[03:52] <wbc> sebsebseb, that is the only reason to why I am installing winxp on another HD, heavy 3d games
[03:52] <Hammerjak> wellichen: System -> Preferences -> Display ?
[03:53] <G__81> thomc, it gets into window manager automatically while booting in the text format. ie when i boot the first few seconds i get the Status bar then once it says loading files to boot it gets into text and then after it boots successfully i get back the GDM login and everything works fine
[03:53] <G__81> then on
[03:53] <newscane> i'm getting errors when it tries to upgrade the kernel image pkg... an error that suggested root was full... and sure enough, it was
[03:53] <sebsebseb> wbc: I see, well you can get some stuff working quite well in Wine
[03:53] <wellichen> Hammerjak, There I don't have the option to change the video driver.
[03:53] <Hammerjak> hm, dunno then
[03:53] <wbc> sebsebseb, I have crossover professional and games
[03:53] <wbc> paid
[03:53] <bullzeye95> wellichen: System > Administration > Hardware Drivers?
[03:53] <newscane> it's a 300 mb partiton... so i don't know why it would have filled.
[03:54] <newscane> how do i go about clearing it up... or resizing it (running ext3 & lvm)
[03:54] <G__81> should i again install upstart ?
[03:54] <wellichen> bullzeye95 : let me try it.
[03:54] <G__81> i mean usplash ?
[03:54] <Dante123> is there any program to put together a slideshow with music in Ubuntu easily (YET)
[03:55] <Dante123> This is one application (a'la photostory or moviemaker) that linux needs
[03:55] <thomc> G__81: yes, you could try that. It seems to have worked for others with a similar issue.
[03:55] <musikgoat|main> newscane: sudo aptitude clean
[03:55] <wellichen> bullzeye95, this one is to choose a proprietary driver
[03:55] <musikgoat|main> newscane: that will remove old cached packages
[03:55] <G__81> thomc, so can i just do a complete removal and install it again using synaptic?
[03:55] <musikgoat|main> newscane: autoclean would be better for you
[03:56] <Emjay> musikgoat|main, its odd mozilla will play youtube videos and on the test flash at adobe it works...but still says i need a plugin...so clicking install missing plugin says no plugin ...
[03:56]  * Emjay confused
[03:56] <wellichen> bullzeye95, this application works like an alternative Instead of editing xorg.conf
[03:56] <thomc> G__81: yes, that should work.
[03:56] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: interesting... it works great for me
[03:56] <SML1226> How doI make my drive NOT read-only?
[03:56] <SML1226> drive*
[03:56] <Emjay> is there a way to find out if i have more than one flash plugin ?
[03:57] <jdu> Emjay: it's in one of the dialogs
[03:57] <bullzeye95> wellichen: ah I think I misunderstood what you said.. sorry, I can't help you
[03:57] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: sudo updatedb;locate libflash
[03:57] <G__81> thomc, have installed it let me check
[03:58] <racecar56> is it possible to make my remaster in a chroot system have a separate xorg screen on my real system?
[03:58] <newscane> musikgoat: ran that, cleared no space.  I think I'd already run it
[03:58] <newscane> and they were going to var, a separate partition
[03:58] <jdu> Emjay: about:plugins in firefox url box might help
[03:58] <Emjay> /home/emjay/.mozilla/plugins/libflashplayer.so
[03:58] <Emjay> /usr/lib/openoffice/basis3.0/program/libflashlx.so
[03:58] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: your good then
[03:58] <wellichen> bullzeye95, in this program I can choose the Screens and the drivers for my graphic card. You can see about it at : http://my.opera.com/sjosul/blog/ubuntu-8-04-dual-monitor-setup
[03:59] <Emjay> odd maybe a restart of x ?
[03:59] <tyler_d> where does mdadm --examine --scan get its information from... how do I remove information from showing up in here?
[03:59] <racecar56> is it possible to have a chroot jail have a separate xorg screen on my real system?
[03:59] <musikgoat|main> Emjay: i don't see how that would affect ff
[03:59] <jdu> Emjay: doubt that would help
[03:59] <Emjay> still no sound
[03:59] <jdu> Emjay: is sound the only problem?
[04:00] <Emjay> not really....I lose sound when i use flash. ..and some sites that i upload to like disperseit.com the flash install doesnt work
[04:00] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[04:01]  * A fatal error occurred in process 0040:039995 please reboot to correct the problem
[04:01] <TwoToneSpirit> Gparted gives me "unable to read the contents of this file system" but I can read the file system in DOS.  It's an NTFS file system, and it worked earlier today, before some grub insanity.  Any suggestions?
[04:01] <w30> I am running 64bit Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop and am trying to get a script made to network to my wireless router from the command line not from the gui which works fine. I tried ps to find what the gui does to initiate the wireless but that don't work; Does anyone have a command to start the wireless network?
[04:01] <Mkop> any ideas for my problem about client apps not getting notified that the internet is down?
[04:02] <Emjay> jdu,  not really....I lose sound when i use flash. ..and some sites that i upload to like disperseit.com the flash install doesnt work
[04:02] <zaccour> anyone else having trouble connecting to pidgin?
[04:03] <Emjay> my pidgin is working fine with msn and yahoo zaccour
[04:03] <newscane> musikgoat: any more suggestions?
[04:03] <jdu> Emjay: I would try removing flash entirely, and then reinstall it by a different method.
[04:03] <zaccour> for me its not working with yahoo
[04:03] <susbwoy> Hi, is there something I can use to burn 3 types of ubuntu iso onto 1 dvd with a menu to choose which one to boot? like desktop32bit/alternative/desktop64bit for example
[04:03] <zaccour> Emjay, for me its not working with yahoo
[04:03] <wbc> What is the command to go one the parent directory of the one you currently are in?
[04:03] <wellichen> Emjay : I think that it is a firefox bug. Because if you intall the flashplugin-nonfree using the synaptic, when you access any site that uses flash it don't work.
[04:03] <wbc> In terminal
[04:03] <Flannel> wbc: cd ..
[04:03] <Emjay> very true wellichen
[04:03] <wbc> Thanks Flannel
[04:04] <Emjay> i have succes with other browsers ... like seamonkey
[04:04] <Flannel> susbwoy: I believe the DVD already contains Desktop + Alternate (but only for one arch)
[04:04] <jdu> Emjay: which firefox are you using?
[04:04] <airtonix> i used to use aoss to prefix my apps i wanted to sahre the oss and also setup, i think i remember seeing something similar for pulse am i wrong?
[04:04] <airtonix> oss & alsa*
[04:04] <Emjay> jdu,  3.0.11
[04:04] <Emjay> i belive
[04:05] <wellichen> Emjay : I really get it working fine when I found a site thats require flash and like a magic the Firefox asked me If I want to install it.
[04:05] <jdu> Emjay: 32 or 64 bit?
[04:05] <TwoToneSpirit> Any NTFS / partition people here?  I can't seem to mount this NTFS partition.
[04:05] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, ntfs-3g
[04:05] <bobanBG1973> Enter text here...ggggjjkkkkl010d010d010d
[04:05] <Emjay> jdo_, it was installed with the amd64 jaunty
[04:05] <w30> Emjay, I had flash problems with the synaptic flash but got satisfaction after removing the repository flash and installng the flash from their web site
[04:05] <Emjay> er jdu
[04:05] <susbwoy> Flannel: yeah just wondering if there is ubuntu software that will let me do it with any ISO. Windows xp cd-iso/ubuntu cd-iso/openbsd cd-iso on 1 dvd for example
[04:05] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: Come again?
[04:06] <jdu> Emjay: sorry, then it is probably 32
[04:06] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, arr u using ntfs-3g?
[04:06] <Mike94287> If I want to make a bash script that constantly checks for a file in a certain directory, would it slow down my computer a lot to have it running all the time?
[04:06] <Emjay> isnt there a 3.5 firefox ?
[04:06] <jdu> Emjay: I would try w30's suggestion because I don't have problems and i got it from the website.
[04:06] <jdu> Emjay: still beta
[04:06] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: You know, I'm not even sure.
[04:06] <racecar56> what happened to firefox 3.1 anywayu
[04:06] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, hmm
[04:06] <airtonix> Mike94287, define 'all the time'
[04:07] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, sudo mount /dev/xdyz -t ntfs-3g
[04:07] <w30> Emjay, however I have 64bit
[04:07] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: Using UBCD, I can boot up into a read-only mode where I can see the files in DOS.  That's the best I've got
[04:07] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, hm
[04:07] <jdu> Mike94287: not if you put a sleep in it. ( ie  "sleep 1m")
[04:07] <Emjay> w30, is there a way to find out ?
[04:07] <Mike94287> airtonix: every second at most
[04:07] <airtonix> Mike94287, ie : every 1min or 2min or 10min or 3hrs?
[04:07] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: I tried that - it gives an error message which I can't remember precisely at the moment.  Something like, "This doesn't appear to have NTFS"
[04:07] <Emjay> i didnt see in about  firefox
[04:07] <airtonix> Mike94287, ok
[04:08] <wellichen> Emjay : Try, in the Firefox, to go to Tools>Add-ons>Plugins see if you find something about flash installed there.
[04:08] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, maybe try ntfs-3g /dev/xdyz /mountpoint
[04:08] <jack_> im getting the error 'Module dm_mod not found' when running 'modprobe dm_mod' can someone tell me what package I need?
[04:08] <Emjay> wellichen,  yes of course flash is there
[04:08] <Emjay>     Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22
[04:08] <eross> is there a media player that can read music from my fileserver via SMB? Or should I mount the drive from my fileserver first?
[04:08] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: tried that too - same
[04:09] <w30> Emjay, try http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer
[04:09] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, maybe (dang) mount it with boring plain-old ntfs
[04:09] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, sudo mount /dev/xdyz -t ntfs
[04:09] <wellichen> Emjay : The decription of it is "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22".
[04:09] <wellichen> Emjay : The decription of it is "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22"?
[04:09] <Emjay> yes wellichen
[04:10] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: same
[04:10] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, maybe it's corrupt D:
[04:10] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56: This happened when I tried to install grub on it
[04:10] <balingup> hi guys - anyone good at proxies, vpns, hacking or wifi mesh & want to help keep intenet up in IRAN????? they need help
[04:10] <ctmjr> jack_, did you try sudo modprobe dm-mod?
[04:10] <jdu> eross: probably mounting it is easiest, it sticks with the unix philosophy that everything should do one thing well.
[04:10] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56:  Well, it seems all the files are there as I can see them in DOS
[04:11] <TwoToneSpirit> balingup:  What kind of help is needed?
[04:11] <jack_> ctmjr: same error
[04:11] <Mike94287> airtonix: If it will slow down my computer, I think a better way to go about it would be to check the directory for a new file (which is all I'm using it for anyway) and to activate something based on whether or not a file exists in that directory. The problem is, I don't know how to make it check for a new file being added to the directory :P
[04:11] <jdu> lwindow 6
[04:11] <Hammerjak> Mike94287: what language are you using for this? shell script?
[04:12] <wellichen> Emjay : Try remove it. Then install flashplugin-nonfree again from other source. Sorry no more ideas :(.
[04:12] <Mike94287> Hammerjak: yes
[04:12] <balingup> twotonespirit - the go there has killed internet !!! couple hundred ppl are feeding VPN, tor & proxies to em
[04:12] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, idk whats going on then.....
[04:12] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, chkdsk and reboot two times?
[04:12] <Hammerjak> Mike94287: why can't you just do a "sleep 1;" for a one-second sleep within a while loop?
[04:13] <roxie> youtube videos lag... anything i can do to fix this??? i am using dell mini 9 with ubuntu netbook remix, 64gb runcore ssd and 2gb ram
[04:13] <Mike94287> Well that's what I was originally going to do but I was worried that it might slow down my computer to have it constantly doing that which is why I came here asking if it would slow down my computer a lot.
[04:13] <mermshaus> hi guys! is there anyone who could tell me the address of this "everything ubuntu in a livestream" page?
[04:13] <balingup> TwoToneSpirit: also i started feeding info on WIFI mesh to IRAN - think it may be usefull - repeat Internet in Iran is out,  quote "ordinary ppl in Iran have no reliable info - gov is trying to break all communication routes  - #Iranelection"
[04:14] <Hammerjak> Mike94287: no, checking for a file doesn't take long and the 1 second sleep will prevent it from spiking your cpu
[04:14] <Hammerjak> Mike94287: if you *don't* put the sleep in there your cpu will sit at 100%
[04:14] <Mike94287> Hammerjak: Okay thanks
[04:14] <wellichen> gigi53, are you talking from PUC in Brazil?
[04:15] <roxie> youtube videos lag... is there anything i can do to fix this??? i am using dell mini 9 with ubuntu netbook remix, 64gb runcore ssd and 2gb ram
[04:16] <wellichen> roxie : YO
[04:16] <vegas513> hi guys, having a bit of trouble sharing a drive on my network
[04:16] <roxie> wellichen: yo
[04:16] <johny-b-goode> Hello People.
[04:16] <wellichen> roxie : You get an good conexion an the correct flash plugin.
[04:16] <jdu> does anyone know of software that automatically remove silence from audio tracks
[04:16] <johny-b-goode> when installing x, what is the package name in ubuntu....?
[04:17] <wellichen> roxie : sorry by the YO. :)
[04:17] <johny-b-goode> xorg? or xorg-server?
[04:17] <vegas513> xorg
[04:17] <roxie> how do i update the flash plugin? my internet connexion is already great
[04:17] <vegas513> sudo apt-get install xorg
[04:17] <roxie> im new to ubuntu
[04:17] <balingup>  hi guys - anyone good at proxies, vpns, hacking or wifi mesh & want to help keep intenet up in IRAN????? they need help!!!
[04:17] <leguille> Eric is a homo
[04:18] <johny-b-goode> thanks. :)
[04:18] <johny-b-goode> vegas513: &
[04:18] <rob_p> Mike94287, http://pastebin.com/f54399436
[04:18] <johny-b-goode> vegas513: thank.
[04:18] <johny-b-goode> s
[04:18] <wellichen> roxie : Look in the Firefox (if you use it!) at Tools>Add-Ons>Plugins
[04:18] <vegas513> johny-b-goode np
[04:18] <roxie> k
[04:18] <Mike94287> Thank you rob_p
[04:18] <vegas513> can anybody help me with sharing a folder across my network?
[04:18] <rob_p> Mike94287, welcome
[04:19] <wellichen> roxie : See if you get some description about the Flash 10.0 (Usually you will find "Shockwave Flash 10.0 r22)
[04:19] <roxie> k
[04:19] <wellichen> roxie : KDE?
[04:20] <roxie> i have shockwave flash 9... how doi get 10... or do i need it
[04:21] <ctmjr> jack_, i could not find where to get it sounds like the module should be there already, is this for encryption?
[04:21] <wellichen> roxie : You don't need it. But you must see if the flash plugin that you have is working properly. By you descriptio it don't seems to work very well.
[04:21] <roxie> yeah youtube is still lagging =[
[04:21] <Emjay> ok well flash works for now...
[04:22] <damisa81> i just installed linux (ubuntu) for the first time today, anyone have recommended apps to add on?
[04:22] <roxie> the sound is fine... just the video is choppy
[04:22] <sebsebseb> damisa81: of course
[04:22] <Emjay> but i still wont be able to test if it kills the sound untill i figure out how to get pulseaudio back
[04:22] <wellichen> roxie : I once installed one plugin that I could only listen the sound but not see anyhing.
[04:22] <Hammerjak> damisa81: go to Applications -> Add/Remove... and poke around in that for a while
[04:23] <Hammerjak> damisa81: all you have to do is check a box to install apps :)
[04:23] <wellichen> roxie : The usual plugin (That use to work properly at almost all cases) is the flashplugin-nonfree
[04:23] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56:  I pop'd a windows CD in, went to a repair console, and typed "fixboot" - now at least the windows CD can read it.  Some progress...
[04:23] <sebsebseb> Hammerjak  damisa81   Synaptic Package Manger is better    system > administaration > synaptic package manager
[04:23] <prowler> Can anyone recommmed an X mp3 player?
[04:23] <roxie> k
[04:23] <damisa81> hammer: that's what i'm doing now, it's how i found xchat
[04:23] <Hammerjak> sebsebseb: but Synaptic isn't nearly as easy to search around in
[04:24] <ctmjr> !mp3|prowler
[04:24] <Emjay> !pulseaduio
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Hammerjak: add/remove is not that good in comparision
[04:24] <Hammerjak> personal preference i guess :)
[04:24] <Fretegi> hey guys
[04:24] <Fretegi> so i have a wierd questions
[04:24] <Fretegi> anyone here using ubuntu 8.10 on a lappy?
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Hammerjak: anyway I will use  commands when I know what I want to install :)
[04:24] <Hammerjak> lol
[04:24] <sebsebseb> Hammerjak: so much quicker and easier  and better really
[04:25] <Hammerjak> true
[04:25] <Emjay> Does anyone know how to start Pulseaudio once its been killed ?
[04:25] <roxie> well thanx with the help. ill just try again next time
[04:25] <racecar56> how do i get my chroot system to have its own x screen on one of my consoles
[04:25] <Fretegi> i am trying to manually set CPU fan speed on a gateway lappy with ubuntu, any thoughts?
[04:26] <ctmjr> prowler, sorry that was no help
[04:26] <davidfx> hello all
[04:26] <davidfx> anyone here using gtkpod
[04:26] <Fretegi> any thoughts?
[04:27] <wellichen> Frategi : Which is your lappy?
[04:27] <Fretegi> gateway m1625
[04:27] <Fretegi> amd tl60 2.0 ghz
[04:27] <Fretegi> new to ubuntu but learning fast :)
[04:27] <Fretegi> i want to set fan speed to run at max all the time if possible
[04:28] <wellichen> Frategi : It allows you this control? You sure that it's not controled by the BIOS?
[04:28] <Fretegi> it maybe controlled by the bios, but EVERYTHING is locked on this thing
[04:28] <Fretegi> i cant adjust ANYTHING acpi related
[04:29] <lloshi> hi.can anyone help me with savage 2 and opengl 2.1 error? is this wrong channel?
[04:29] <davidfx> can someone here help me with gtkpod
[04:29] <davidfx> i have version 0.99.12
[04:29] <davidfx> do i need to format my ipod
[04:29] <Fretegi> however i have been doing some reading pertaining to some scripts  reference "fancontrol &"
[04:29] <kewl1> why wireless connection always slow down after some idle time?
[04:30] <ibmman> how do i make a floppy disk bootable on cd-rom?
[04:30] <davidfx> ?
[04:30] <wellichen> Frategi : I suggest you to look at the site of who produces it.
[04:31] <Fretegi> already have.  thanks :)
[04:31] <wellichen> Frategi : Sometimes this things are controled by drivers.
[04:31] <racecar56> i have a chroot system of a ubuntu live cd and when i exit vim it says "E138: Can't write viminfo file /home/racecar56/.viminfo!" how do i make it stop looking for that because there isn't supposed to be anything about racecar56
[04:33] <linuxguy2009> Can anyone say if I decide to try to use "dd" command, does it only backup used portions of the disk or does it also copy un-needed empty space? Also can the output be piped to gzip or such compression? Will that work as a solution to backup an ext4 Ubuntu install?
[04:34] <wellichen> Frategi : Well I need to sleep know (12:33 here in Brazil). See if you find some Stuff in Ubuntu Forums. Good Luck!
[04:34] <musikgoat|main> linuxguy2009: dd is a byte for byte copy, it copies even unused bits
[04:35] <linuxguy2009> ok
[04:35] <linuxguy2009> Ill just stick with ext3 then till, part image supports ext4.
[04:35] <kewl1> why wireless connection always slow down after some idle time?
[04:35] <musikgoat|main> linuxguy2009: I would suggest tar as a backup your ubuntu install
[04:35] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[04:36] <mermshaus> sorry for bumping but I'm kind of sitting in front of an e-mail and i'd like to include this bit. does anybody know the ubuntu page that aggregates stuff like blog posts or forum posts into a huge "this is going on in the ubuntu world" live stream?
[04:36] <w30> linuxguy2009, it does copy uneeded empty space however if you 0 out the empty space then a compression of the image will be very small.
[04:37] <linuxguy2009> So besides part image not supporting ext4 and dd backing up un-needed data, is there a decent way to backup an ext4 partition?
[04:37] <linuxguy2009> Yeah but zeroing out probably would take quite a while on a big drive I would imagine.
[04:38] <kewl1> why wireless connection always slow down after some idle time? im on jaunty and with a CCE notebook!
[04:38] <musikgoat|main> mermshaus: are you referring to planet.ubuntu.com ?
[04:38] <TwoToneSpirit> racecar56:  So going into a recovery console (via the windows CD) and using fixboot worked - everything is back to normal and I can now dual-boot
[04:38] <racecar56> TwoToneSpirit, woot
[04:39] <Dday> How do i change directory to a folder?
[04:39] <musikgoat|main> Dday: cd = change directory
[04:39] <musikgoat|main> Dday: so cd /path/to/folder
[04:39] <mermshaus> musikgoat|main: thx! nope, it included forum posts from the ubuntu forums too. it was some kind of web page like that idea torrent thingy. :)
[04:39] <YeTr2> Has anyone else have had any issues of the window manager stop responding to mouse input while running Firefox?
[04:39] <musikgoat|main> mermshaus: brainstorm?
[04:40] <musikgoat|main> mermshaus: thats all i've got :-)
[04:40] <mermshaus> musikgoat|main: jep. that's the idea torrent thingy.
[04:40] <YeTr2> and my right click seems to have broken severely
[04:41] <mermshaus> musikgoat|main: that's cool because i lost that one too. :)
[04:41] <Mike94287> Does anyone know of a bash command that will overwrite my clipboard with a variable that I set?
[04:41] <Dday> How does UBuntu work on SSD's?
[04:41] <w30> linuxguy2009, go here: http://www.linuxweblog.com/blogs/sandip/20050211/image-your-hard-drive-using-dd
[04:42] <YeTr2> linuxguy2009: wouldn't take too long to fill the empty space with zeros. however, you could instead use rsync to copy the file system contents onto another system.
[04:43] <YeTr2> Dday: Solid State Disks behave like normal disks. very very small differences, ubuntu should just treat it like any other disk
[04:43] <Dday> There is a big performance increase with SSD's on windows, is it the same in ubuntu?
[04:43] <TwoToneSpirit> Thanks balingup for alerting us about the situation in Iran.  If anybody wants to keep up on the situation or help the people of Iran get access to the internet, which has been cut off, please come to #irantech.
[04:43] <helper> hello, what is the package name to resize if i got windows XP , i want to install ubuntu but i need to rezie since i want to make /home in one partition! thx
[04:44] <linuxguy2009> well I think writing zeros to 80+GB of drive space would be just as slow as creating an 80GB file Im guessing.
[04:44] <TwoToneSpirit> helper:  You want to resize NTFS partition?
[04:44] <helper> TwoToneSpirit yes
[04:44] <YeTr2> Dday: performance increase comes from the ability to read random speed faster than any mechenical device ever could. that's why it's faster. not because of drivers or anything.
[04:44] <TwoToneSpirit> helper:  *VERY* risky.  I did it once with a utility on the Ultimate Boot CD, but I can't say I advise it.
[04:45] <helper> TwoToneSpirit then what should i do ? i got xp want to install ubuntu
[04:45] <YeTr2> hmm
[04:45] <helper> TwoToneSpirit i want to make /home parition alone
[04:46] <TwoToneSpirit> helper: can you afford to wipe your drive an install ubuntu first?  - yeah the /home idea is good
[04:46] <mermshaus> 1337 users! awesome!
[04:46] <helper> TwoToneSpirit nah :(
[04:46] <TwoToneSpirit> helper:  Many people come through that door and tell stories of NTFS horrors - I was one of them only (looks at watch) last hour.
[04:46] <mermshaus> sry, I'm easily excited
[04:47] <Emjay> does anyone know a command to make pulseaudio start again ?
[04:47] <helper> TwoToneSpirit what should i do then ?
[04:47] <w30> I have been hearing rumors about ssd drives and flash drives failure rates being high. I have been trying to find out more.
[04:47] <TwoToneSpirit> helper:  Ultimate Boot CD I'd say.
[04:47] <jdu> sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[04:47] <YeTr2> gparted live
[04:47] <ctmjr> helper, in windows defrag the disk then install ubuntu give it as much room as you want
[04:48] <Emjay>  sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio restart
[04:48] <Emjay>  * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[04:48] <YeTr2> TwoToneSpirit: gparted live
[04:48] <musikgoat|main> !wubi | helper
[04:48] <Dday> What is the ubuntu pastebin?
[04:48] <musikgoat|main> !paste | Dday
[04:48] <jdu> Dday: use /topic
[04:48] <helper> musikgoat|main , can i choose a partition for /home ?
[04:49] <musikgoat|main> helper, yes, i believe so
[04:50] <helper> musikgoat|main t.c.
[04:50] <RheaChiQ> hello how to hide my user account so that they cant open my /home/rhea folder? thanks
[04:51] <helper> RheaChiQ i think permissions
[04:51] <Drknezz> Hi
[04:51] <edbian> RheaChiQ: Are you trying to hide the home folder from it's own user?
[04:51] <Serpardum> Drknezz:  claims you're fussing in here ^^
[04:52] <jdu> RheaChiQ: from other users?
[04:52] <Drknezz> xD
[04:52] <j_ack> y<
[04:52] <RheaChiQ> jdu : yes from other users.i dont want to see my /home/rhea
[04:52] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: you cannot 'hide' folders
[04:52] <henkboom> After installing ubuntu, I installed kubuntu-desktop through aptitude. When I remove it, though, also through aptitude, it doesn't remove the other packages. I though aptitude was supposed to handle that? What can I do?
[04:52] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[04:52] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: you can however, make them entirely unreadable to other users
[04:52] <edbian> RheaChiQ: Is it enough that those users can't write in those folders?  (the default settings).
[04:52] <topsub> if i just want to send mail off of ubuntu what would be the best mail service / server to use?
[04:53] <RheaChiQ> edbian : hide or other user cannot open my /home/rhea
[04:53] <jdu> RheaChiQ: chmod 700  /home/rhea
[04:53] <RheaChiQ> edbian : they cant open my /home/folder nor edit file or etc
[04:53] <RheaChiQ> jdu : this is different from o+wx /home/rhea thing? i forgot the command
[04:53] <jimmyjh> ok i have a problem
[04:53] <Serpardum> you could change the rights to it so no one but root could look inside it, but you couldn't hide it
[04:54] <linuxguy2009> Im just now seeing that 9.04 has a guest session.Is that like a sandbox environment?
[04:54] <Fretegi> what kernel type is in 9.04?
[04:54] <edbian> RheaChiQ: If you right click on your own home folder and hit properties and look at permissions you can set it so that "others" meaning (everyone not the owner and not in the group) has no access "none"
[04:54] <jdu> RheaChiQ: there is more than one way to change permissions.  One can use octal numbers such as 700 or letters such as what you gave.
[04:54] <edbian> RheaChiQ: Or via GUI which I explained.
[04:54] <jimmyjh> this is a ubuntu 64bit, i've installed all the required codecs etc for dvd playback, but it scrambles the dvd as if it doesnt have the required codecs installed
[04:55] <RheaChiQ> jdu : so chmod 700 /home/rhea will solve the problem right? users cannot open it even if i add them to the su?
[04:55] <Serpardum> I'm a little worried about this: The partition tables of the following devices are changed:
[04:55] <Serpardum> SCSI5 (0,0,0) (sdc)
[04:55] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: anyone with root access can do what ever they please.
[04:55] <Serpardum> I'm trying to partion my ATA drive, not scsi
[04:56] <jdu> RheaChiQ: well, super user can do anything, there's no way to stop that.
[04:56] <edbian> RheaChiQ: Wrong.  If they can su then they are the root user and the root user can do anything.  (including change your or any home folder)
[04:56] <RheaChiQ> YeTr2 : if they know the password of the root right?
[04:56] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: root access more or less ignores everything and does what ever it wants.
[04:56] <RheaChiQ> edbian : ok
[04:56] <jdu> RheaChiQ: however, you could choose sudo to give more limited access rights
[04:56] <Mike94287> Does anyone know of a bash command that will overwrite my clipboard with a variable that I set?
[04:56] <jdu> RheaChiQ: sudo can be configured to allow a user only to use specific commands etc.
[04:57] <jimmyjh> i am having dvd playback issues, i have insalled libdvdreader libdvdcss etc etc, but it still does not decrypt the dvd
[04:57] <edbian> jimmyjh: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/playing-encrypted-dvds-in-ubuntu.html
[04:57] <edbian> Look at the AMD64 bit.
[04:57] <edbian> Do you have that libdvdcss2 package?
[04:58] <Barridus> oops i made a mistake and i think i locked a gconf key that wasn't locked before, can anyone help me solve "Could not change key value. Error message:
[04:58] <Barridus> Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Can't overwrite existing read-only value: Value for `/apps/gnome-power-manager/general/can_suspend' set in a read-only source at the front of your configuration path"
[04:58] <RheaChiQ> edbian YeTr2 jdu this will help then? > jdu: RheaChiQ: chmod 700  /home/rhea
[04:58] <kenyon> Mike94287: see the xsel and xclip commands
[04:58] <jon5001> hello.  touchpad scrolling has suddenly stopped working on my dell inspiron 9300 laptop running intrepid.  have looked at gsynaptics and xorg.  all seems fine... can anyone help???
[04:58] <jdu> RheaChiQ: yes, but you can always do it then login as a different user and try to access your files.
[04:59] <Mike94287> kenyon: I tried out xclip just before but it only lets me copy commands, I'll try out xsel
[04:59] <RheaChiQ> edbian YeTr2 jdu helper thanks
[04:59] <edbian> RheaChiQ: That will make it so that the owner can do anything to the files but nobody else can do anything.  Root can still do whatever he wants though.  IF your users can sudo then there is pretty much no point in setting up any sort of permissions at all to control them.  Do you understand?  Root can do anything regardless of persmissions
[04:59] <RheaChiQ> edbian : understand
[04:59] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: I would suggest more along the lines of `chmod -R go-rwx /home/rhea` , and then change your umask. If you really want to be paranoid, you could just start encrypting yourself as well.
[05:00] <edbian> RheaChiQ: Ok good :)
[05:00] <RheaChiQ> YeTr2 how to change to "umask" ?
[05:00] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: sec, let me find the profile.
[05:01] <RheaChiQ> YeTr2 thanks :)
[05:02] <GreaterCore> what's a good IRC server on ubuntu?
[05:02] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: you can do this in one of two places, you can do it in your own profile, or you can do it in the system profile and it becomes valid for everyone.
[05:02] <Fretegi> ur on it
[05:02] <edbian> GreaterCore: Got a question?
[05:03] <YeTr2> GreaterCore: irc server daemons are more or less personal preference.
[05:03] <GreaterCore> easiest irc server to set up
[05:03] <GreaterCore> with nickserv and chanserv
[05:03] <edbian> GreaterCore: Did you mean that you want to run an IRC server on your computer?
[05:03] <GreaterCore> edbian: yes
[05:04] <Mike94287> kenyon: I can't seem to get it to work with either xsel or xclip
[05:04] <starnet> anton
[05:04] <kenyon> Mike94287: what are you trying to do?
[05:04] <ctmjr> GreaterCore, you might get better answers in #freenode channel
[05:04] <Mike94287> kenyon: I want to write something to my clipboard with a bash script
[05:04] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: to effect everyone, you should edit the /etc/login.defs file as root. in that file, is a variable called UMASK. default on UMASK is (0)022
[05:05] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: uncomment it(delete the # in front) and change the 022 to 077 to have this setting effect all users.
[05:05] <kenyon> Mike94287: those commands will do it.
[05:06] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: your other option is to put this in your personal profile in your '${HOME}/.profile'. doing this will only have the change effect you.
[05:06] <Mike94287> kenyon: xclip works but only with commands, I want it to work for a variable I set in the bash script.
[05:07] <kenyon> Mike94287: echo $var | xclip
[05:07] <YeTr2> RheaChiQ: any changes you make will not take effect until you log out of the system entirely.
[05:07] <jimmyjh1> ok i tried that but still not working
[05:07] <jimmyjh1> dvd is still not playing
[05:08] <Mike94287> kenyon: There we go, thanks
[05:08] <ctmjr> jimmyjh, what player/s are you using?
[05:08] <sam_> ctmjr vlc and movie player*
[05:09] <sam_> we are trying to fix it for me.. :p
[05:09] <jimmyjh1> ctmjr:  tried movie player and vlc
[05:09] <Belinrahs> I have a question. Do I absolutely need to burn a disc in order to install Ubuntu (not using Wubi)? I want to dualboot Windows 7 RC and the latest Ubuntu.
[05:09] <YeTr2> Belinrahs: you can also install via thumbdrive.
[05:09] <Belinrahs> ahhh that solves my problem then
[05:09] <gmachine> I think you can install via jump drive or ftp
[05:10] <Belinrahs> Is there any specific way i need to put it on the thumb drive?
[05:10] <Belinrahs> for it to boot*
[05:10] <YeTr2> Belinrahs: I think the live disk has a utility to create a bootable thumb drive
[05:10] <musikgoat|main> Belinrahs: google install ubuntu with unetbootin
[05:10] <Belinrahs> is that the Windows autorun you mean?
[05:10] <Belinrahs> alright
[05:10] <YeTr2> but that purpose is self defeating, isn't it?
[05:10] <gmachine> belinrahs, you need to configure your BIOS to look @ the jump drive at boot
[05:11] <gmachine> Belinrahs: there should be a "how to" on this.
[05:11] <w30> I am running 64bit Ubuntu 9.04 on my laptop and am trying to get a script made to network to my wireless router from the command line not from the gui which works fine. I tried ps to find what the gui does to initiate the wireless but that don't work; Does anyone have a command to start the wireless network?
[05:11] <Belinrahs> wow, that Unetbootin looks like an excellent utility
[05:11] <Belinrahs> Thanks for the help, I'm going to use that :)
[05:12] <ctmjr> jimmyjh, you can try region set read this at the bottom of the page https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats/PlayingDVDs
[05:12] <Belinrahs> By the way does Compiz Fusion work with 64-bit Linux? Also Wine?
[05:12] <cabrey> Belinrahs, yes as long as you have drivers
[05:12] <cabrey> also
[05:12] <wbc> My Windows XP's HD UUID is 7fb92825-6c25-4821-9be9-f8bf3ae6b75c, how may I add it to GRUB?
[05:12] <cabrey> !unetbootin | Belinrahs
[05:12] <TwoToneSpirit> Belinrahs:  Both great
[05:12] <YeTr2> Belinrahs: http://www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-904-persistent-install-windows/
[05:13] <Belinrahs> cabrey: Thanks!!
[05:13] <roxie> i am new to ubuntu.. is there a way to run windows programs on ubuntu???
[05:13] <rohit> hey does google talk work on wine
[05:13] <wbc> !wine | roxie
[05:13] <rohit> plz tell ,e
[05:13] <rohit> yes u can use wine
[05:13] <roxie> ok thanx
[05:14] <YeTr2> a better place to determine wine compatibility would be winehq's site.
[05:14] <w30> Belinrahs, you need to check out getlibs on the Ubuntu web site; it's a way to install the 32bit libs on a 64 bit system to satisfy 32 bit apps
[05:15] <Belinrahs> w30: ok. do you have a link? just curious, i can probably find it but whatever is quicker
[05:16] <w30> Belinrahs, sorry not handy
[05:16] <Belinrahs> ok I'll find it :) thx
[05:16] <wbc> My Windows XP's HD UUID is 7fb92825-6c25-4821-9be9-f8bf3ae6b75c, how may I add it to GRUB?
[05:16] <jon5001> any touchpad experts here?
[05:16] <ectospasm> jon5001: just ask your question.
[05:16] <gmachine> wbc: you want to add it to your etc/fstab file I believe
[05:17] <gmachine> wbc? correct?
[05:17] <wbc> gmachine: Are you sure I don't have to add it to /boot/grub/menu.lst?
[05:17] <Fretegi> how stable is ubuntu??
[05:18] <ectospasm> wbc: normally you don't use the UUID for booting a WinXP instance.
[05:18] <wbc> Fretegi: Stable enough
[05:18] <jon5001> ectospasm, touchpad scrolling suddenly stopped working.  dell inspiron 9300 with intrepid.  checked gsynaptic, xorg and the internet but do not see the problem referenced or a solution proposed.  any ideas?
[05:18] <wbc> ectospasm: Then what do I have to add?
[05:18] <lstarnes> Fretegi: the LTS versions are probably at least slightly more stable than the non-LTS versions
[05:18] <Fretegi> compared to windows?
[05:18] <ectospasm> jon5001: you haven't accidentally disabled the scroll bar on the touchpad, have you?
[05:18] <wbc> Fretegi: Stable++
[05:19] <ectospasm> I don't have Intrepid anymore, so I can't look for you. (and besides, my laptop has no charge and the power cable is at home)
[05:19] <gmachine> wbc: no I think it must be in your menu.lst file also
[05:19] <jon5001> ectospasm, accidentally disabled how?  gsynaptics tick marks all in order and xorg file is unchanged since a known backup from when the scroll was functioning
[05:19] <wbc> jon5001: Are you use you just haven't pushed the "Disable touchpad" button somewhere around your keyboard
[05:20] <Fretegi> lol k, ive had it on lappy for about two weeks and really gettin to like it, if i could get a few program glitches fixes i may use it as in lieu of vista
[05:20] <phoenixz> I have an SCP problem: when I scp hosta:/file /file, all is okay. When I scp /file hostb:/file, all is okay.. When I scp hosta:/file hostb:/file, I suddenly get a hostkey verification failure.. Why is this? It does not make sense because if I only specify one host (either host a or host b) it works well. with SSH I can access those hosts also without problem. How could I fix this problem?
[05:20] <gmachine> how do I paste something in the pastebin?
[05:20] <wbc> Ctrl+V
[05:20] <ctmjr> !paste
[05:20] <wbc> Or rightclick>paste
[05:20] <jon5001> wbc, note:  all touchpad functions work.  except scrolling.
[05:21] <ectospasm> jon5001: like I said, I can't verify this right now, but on my 9.04 UNR netbook I could have sworn I saw an option for disabling the scroll bar on the touchpad in gnome-mouse-properties
[05:21] <wbc> jon5001: have you tried scrolling with two fingers?
[05:21] <wbc> Ubuntu enables that on some machines
[05:21] <jon5001> wbc, how do you scroll w. two fingers?
[05:22] <Fretegi> night guys
[05:22] <wbc> jon5001: Use two fingers and have a small space between them while moving them downwards
[05:23] <jon5001> wbc, doesnt seem to be responding to that... unless i am doing it wrong.  unfamiliar with that technique but followed your instructuon
[05:23] <w30> wbc, thats cool, thanks for being on Ubuntu and helping out *smile*
[05:23] <wbc> jon5001: It does only work on certain computers though
[05:24] <gmachine> jon5001: you can enable horizontal and vertical scrolling under mouse/touchpad...I assume if you remove the checks from these boxes you have disabled scrolling
[05:24] <jon5001> wbc, nah.  i dont think so.  scrolling worked until recently
[05:24] <w30> wbc, works on a inspiron E1505
[05:24] <jon5001> gmachine, all tick marks are in right place
[05:24] <wbc> w30: :)
[05:25] <gmachine> jon5001: I'm sorry jon... do you want it to work or not work?
[05:26] <gmachine> wbc: did you get an answer to your question about the grub file?
[05:26] <wbc> gmachine: Nope,
[05:26] <jon5001> gmachine, I want it to work.  it used to work.  now it suddenly doesnt.  gsynaptics touch pad and mouse settings in gnome are set to enable, and xorg is unchanged from a backup when it worked fine
[05:27] <gmachine> jon5001: ok, sorry to be dense.
[05:27] <jon5001> gmachine, and yet it suddenly stopped
[05:27] <ectospasm> jon5001: you may need to toggle them off and toggle them back on
[05:27] <jon5001> gmachine, no worries.
[05:27] <ectospasm> ...or upgrade to Jaunty
[05:27] <wbc> gmachine: Thing is that I do not know what I should add to the menu.lst
[05:27] <jon5001> ectospasm, I have tried that.  but would i have to reboot in between?  that I havent done
[05:28] <gmachine> wbc: well, in my grub list my hard drive is mentioned and I don't have Windows installed on the same computer.
[05:28] <ectospasm> jon5001: a reboot may be an expedient fix.  I had a problem where I disabled mouse clicks on the touch pad, to disable an annoyance
[05:28] <jon5001> ectospasm, problem with jaunty for me is no proprietary driver for ati radeon video card and the open source version doesnt make full enough use of it... but thats a whole nother story
[05:28] <ectospasm> jon5001: and rebooting fixed the problem that caused.
[05:29] <ectospasm> bah, ATI
[05:29] <jon5001> ectospasm, note, i have rebooted several times.  this has been ongoing for a week.  but i havent rebooted in between unchecking the boxes.  ie, uncheck, reboot, check, reboot
[05:30] <Barridus> is it just me or is jaunty missing most of the sounds ubuntu used to have (trash emptying, etc)
[05:30] <jon5001> ectospasm, yeah. the whole ati situation's a bummer
[05:30] <ectospasm> jon5001: are you dual booting?  If so, does the touchpad scroll bar work as advertised in the other OS?
[05:31] <jon5001> ectospasm, nope.  intrepid is the only os on this machine
[05:31] <froes> hi. is there a way to make the SUPER (windows key) open the desktop menus ?
[05:31] <ectospasm> hmmm... so we can't test if the scroll bar on the touchpad has simply failed.
[05:31] <wbc> gmachine: could you paste your menu.lst to the pastebin?
[05:34] <jon5001> ectospasm, wbc, i will be right back.  i unchecked and am rebooting.
[05:35] <jaime1> hey guys how's it going
[05:36] <jaime1> i have a serious problem
[05:36] <Dday> Will wine run internet explorer 8?
[05:36] <skrite> jaime1, go ahead
[05:36] <gmachine> IE8 is horrible
[05:36] <RheaChiQ> YeTr2 : ok i think i got it. what website you got it?
[05:36] <ectospasm> jaime1: don't preface your question, just ask
[05:36] <error404notfound> anyone here tried installing ubuntu on xen server 5.5.0?
[05:36] <gmachine> spill jaime1
[05:36] <Dday> gmachine, need it for a microsoft competition
[05:37] <ectospasm> Dday: good luck with that
[05:37] <gmachine> Dday, what do you need for a microsoft competition
[05:37] <Dday> http://www.microsoft.com/australia/ie8/competition/
[05:37] <gmachine> oh
[05:37] <ectospasm> Dday: IE8 is new enough where I'd doubt wine could run it well.
[05:37] <jaime1> i went away for vacations leaving my cuz in charge. being new to ubuntu he messed around and did some thing he shoudn't have. now my computer says i have no available memory, which i do. also i cant save documents and i can't open some apps and i can't upgrade to 9.04 because of an "authentication failure" i have no idea what happened to it
[05:38] <ectospasm> probably all sorts of libs involved that the wine folks haven't implemented.
[05:38] <gmachine> Dday: I'll give you $15,000 not to use IE8
[05:38] <ectospasm> jaime1: did you give him access to your user account?
[05:39] <jaime1> yeah i didn't think he'd mess with it
[05:39] <cabrey> oh wow so MS has to bribe users now?
[05:39] <ectospasm> jaime1: shame shame
[05:39] <jaime1> ectospasm: i know
[05:39] <h00k> Dday: 1) you can use User Agent Switcher (thats all they check for and 2) You must live in Australia
[05:39] <h00k> Dday: Actually using IE8 isn't necessaryt
[05:39] <jelly-bean> my "gnome-screensaver lock" quit working recently. any ideas? it is running
[05:39] <gmachine> jaime1: do you have a pre-vacation back up of your system
[05:39] <Dday> gmachine, is it in Zimbabwean dollars?
[05:39] <Dday> h00k, how i use user agent switcher?
[05:39] <gmachine> Dday: Close, U.S. dollar$
[05:40] <munk> hi all
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: and for example like i can open opera, but when i click on the file, edit , view , or any other buttons on the top, it just shows blanks
[05:40] <Dday> gmachine, i take you up on your offer :D
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: unfortunately i didn't.
[05:40] <munk> anyone know much about the pipe command? ie |
[05:40] <h00k> Dday: google is your friend: https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/59
[05:40] <ectospasm> jaime1: sounds like he trashed your system.
[05:40] <ectospasm> jaime1: is /home on a different partition from /?
[05:40] <wbc> May someone please paste their /boot/grub/menu.lst on the pastebin for me?
[05:40] <jaime1> ectospasm: that's what i was thinking that maybe he messed with the partitions
[05:40] <wbc> With Windows in it
[05:41] <ectospasm> jaime1: you'd be in deeper trouble if that were the case.
[05:41] <skrite> Is there a way to run ICE WEASEL in Ubuntu ?  i cant find it in apt or anywhere  else
[05:41] <cabrey> skrite, use firefox
[05:41] <ectospasm> skrite: and why would you want to do that when Ubunt CAN use Firefox?
[05:42] <munk> is there a way to take the output of a commandline program and use it as a argument for another program?
[05:42] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah i have the linux wich is filesystem ext3 as /dev/sda2. i have like 52 GB unallocated, then the linux-swap as /dev/sda
[05:42] <ectospasm> munk: use the pipe '|'
[05:42] <ectospasm> munk: cmd1 | cmd2 | cmd3 | ...
[05:42] <lstarnes> munk: or program $(other program)
[05:42] <racecar56> got to go
[05:42] <Dday> h00k, User agent switcher is only for windows 7
[05:43] <munk> does it pass what ever is in the stdout as an argument?
[05:43] <Dday> *IE 7 sorry
[05:43] <lstarnes> munk: you can use $() or `` to capture output for use bu another command
[05:43] <ectospasm> jaime1: you're screwed then, since you don't have a separate /home partition.  I'd suggest a format and reinstall.
[05:43] <toortoor> what is the command for the default ubuntu document reader?
[05:43] <lstarnes> munk: | captures one program's stdout and directs it into the other's stdin
[05:43] <ectospasm> jaime1: you can try to move your important files to another system/external HD, but good luck
[05:43] <lstarnes> toortoor: evince?
[05:43] <cabrey> toortoor, evince
[05:43] <w30>  	  We are sorry, but your Operating System is not supported by the ninemsn Optimised version of Internet Explorer 8.   	
[05:43] <w30> Australia (English) - click to change
[05:43] <jaime1> ectospasm: yep that's what it looks like. oh well thanks man. i'll probably just save everything to an external, then just reinstall
[05:44] <munk> what if I need the output to be passed as an argument when the second program is loaded
[05:44] <toortoor> lstarnes, cabrey: ok thanks
[05:44] <gmachine> jaime1: and kick your cousin in the rear
[05:44] <ectospasm> jaime1: next time, don't give ANYONE access to your user, just create an unprivileged user first.
[05:44]  * w30 hehheh
[05:44] <CaptainMorgan> !release
[05:44] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah, well i told him he has to buy me a new computer:) but meanwhile i'll fix this one
[05:44] <johnzw> whois johnzw
[05:45] <munk> stdin isnt the arguments is it?
[05:45] <lstarnes> munk: stdin is like typed input
[05:45] <jaime1> ectospasm: one more question. when i reinstall, how do i make the /home partition. i had my friend install it for me. i mean i'm knowledgeable in linux, but not in that part of the installation process
[05:45] <s|k_`> hrm
[05:46] <h00k> !home | jaime1
[05:46] <ectospasm> jaime1: just create separate / and /home partitions.  You should have the option for choosing the mount point of a given partition
[05:46] <h00k> sleep. peace.
[05:46] <munk> so if I am writing a program called "gettimeindex" that generates arguments for the program "transcoder" is there a way to pass the arguments?
[05:47] <lstarnes> munk: transcoder $(gettimeindex)
[05:47] <bullgard4> skrite: Ubuntu repositories provide you with Firefox. If you have reasons to stick to Iceweasel try to find Debian repositories providing Iceweasel packages. I doubt that it makes sense to install them in your Ubuntu operating system. You better switch over to Debian entirely then.
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: what do you mean "arguments"
[05:47] <gmachine> jaime1: read through a guide that tells you have to set up the difference partitions / /var /tmp /home etc
[05:47] <gmachine> *how
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: normally you just pass the stdout of the first program to the stdin of the second.
[05:47] <unop> munk, maybe.  transcoder "$@"
[05:47] <munk> like when you load transcoder it has arguments like "transcoder -a -more arguments -blah"
[05:47] <ectospasm> munk: you'd have to specify those extra arguments when you invoke the commands.
[05:48] <unop> munk, "$@" contains the arguments passed to this script .. you just pass them on using it
[05:49] <ectospasm> like: tar -xvf - file1 file2... | bzip2 -c tarball.tar.bz2
[05:49] <jaime1> ectospasm: yeah thanks man i'm looking at a page which should help. i just gotta go get my external HD from my gf so i could save the important stuff. oh well, that's what i get for trusting a windows user:) thanks for  all the help and see you guys later.
[05:49] <The_warlock> can anybody suggest me a good window manager which supports themes?
[05:49] <ectospasm> The_warlock: GNOME ?
[05:49] <thePuppeteer> I am on the liveCD and am formatting the HDD, sda1 i managed to delete, but with sda2/sda5, gparted will not give me the option to touch, is there a way around this?
[05:49] <lstarnes> The_warlock: maybe compiz
[05:49] <unop> gnome isn't a window manager
[05:50] <The_warlock> ectospasm: other than gnome and kde i.e :D
[05:50] <unop> The_warlock, fluxbox
[05:50] <ectospasm> The_warlock: only other one I'm familiar with is fluxbox
[05:50] <munk> unop: where can I find out more about $@?
[05:50] <jaime1> ectospasm: wait one more quick q. can't i just create a new /home partition?
[05:50] <ectospasm> ...although all the *Steps should work, too
[05:51] <ectospasm> jaime1: if you've got free space (which you said you did earlier), yeah
[05:51] <unop> munk, you are writing a shell script i assume?  bash?
[05:51] <jon5001> ectospasm, performed the following:  uncheck, reboot, check, reboot... no joy
[05:51] <nathaniel1> hello
[05:51] <nathaniel1> I have a problem
[05:51] <munk> no I am writing a c++ program that analyzes a sound file and then passes a certain time index to transoder
[05:52] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be
[05:52] <sagaci> when i run the command line in ubuntu, can i up the resolution so more fits in the screen?
[05:52] <munk> I would like to avoid calling transcoder from within my program
[05:52] <jascase901> I was messing with usplash and now I cant log onto my ubuntu partition
[05:52] <nathaniel1> and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:52] <jascase901> On jaunty
[05:52] <unop> munk, ahh, then $@ doesn't apply .. you'd have to work with argc/argv combination
[05:52] <munk> yea
[05:52] <ectospasm> sagaci: you mean in the virtual terminals (ALT-F1..6)?
[05:53] <unop> munk,  /j #c++
[05:53] <sagaci> ectospasm: yes
[05:53] <munk> is there no way to pass the output of a program to the arguments of a another?
[05:53] <ectospasm> sagaci: only way I know of doing that is by running a framebuffer
[05:53] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:53] <jaime1> ectospasm:yeah i have like 50GB of free space.  should i create it as a primary or extended partition? also should it be ext 2?
[05:53] <munk> perhaps a bash script to tie it togehter?
[05:53] <unop> munk,  that will work
[05:54] <ectospasm> sagaci: investigate the "vga=" kernel boot parameter for the framebuffer
[05:54] <ectospasm> jaime1: it's really immaterial whether you choose it to be primary or logical (it can't be extended)
[05:54] <sagaci> ectospasm: ah ok, won't mess with it then
[05:54] <munk> where would I look for such information?
[05:54] <jaime1> ectospasm: oh alright. will 2 GB be enough or how much should it be?
[05:54] <unop> munk,  /j #bash
[05:55] <nathaniel1> my screen resolution sinece some days now is very below what it used to be and it doesn't detect monitor
[05:55] <munk> thanks
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: usually I make the /home partition the largest on the system
[05:55] <jaime1> so probably use like all of the memory. like 50GB?
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: 2GB would fill up FAST
[05:55] <ectospasm> jaime1: that's what I'd do, but ymmv
[05:56] <nellmathew> hey guys, i was curious.. what would be the best file system for "media storage" partition?.. i'm on ext3 right now, i have some unformatted space on my harddrive, looking for some suggestions..
[05:56] <jaime1> ectospasm: ok thanks man. yeah i got the page that tell me what commands to enter so hopefully i fix this
[05:56] <ectospasm> nellmathew: ext3 is a safe choice
[05:57] <ectospasm> nellmathew: JFS may give better performance for lots of large (> 2GB) files.
[05:57] <ectospasm> ReiserFS may also be a good choice.
[05:57] <nellmathew> ectospasm, so if i were to reinstall ubuntu on my current partition, how would i go about using ext3 without affecting the "media" partition? (make it primary and root?..)
[05:57] <thePuppeteer> I am on the liveCD and am formatting the HDD, sda1 i managed to delete, but with sda2/sda5, gparted will not give me the option to touch, is there a way around this?
[05:58] <nellmathew> does that make sense?.. lol
[05:58] <Jaunty_Guy> #ubuntu
[05:58] <Jaunty_Guy> Hello guys and gals
[05:58] <ectospasm> nellmathew: no, you'd have your media partition on a separate (primary or logical, doesn't matter) partition, and set its mount point to whatever (prolly not /media, maybe /mnt/media or something.
[05:58] <chewed-on> Hello
[05:59] <Jaunty_Guy> I have really a serious problem and I can't fix it
[05:59] <chewed-on> Has anyone here used Yabause (sega saturn emulator)
[05:59] <ectospasm> nellmathew: then, don't touch that partition when you're reinstalling.
[05:59] <Jaunty_Guy> Can some one help me
[05:59] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: don't preface your question, or ask to ask, just ask your question already
[06:00] <nellmathew> ectospasm: thanks for your help!
[06:00] <chewed-on> Has anyone here used Yabause (sega saturn emulator) before ?
[06:00] <Jaunty_Guy> OK I just migrated from Windows and I have one problem
[06:00] <ectospasm> chewed-on: not I
[06:00] <Jaunty_Guy> The PC freezes at randon times
[06:00] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: does it ever exhibit that behavior in Windows?
[06:01] <Jaunty_Guy> couldn't figure why?
[06:01] <Jaunty_Guy> No not at all
[06:01] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you could be having a number of problems.
[06:01] <avythe> silly quick question, when amarok changes to the next song, it displays a huge message - any way to resize it?
[06:01] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: it could be that Ubuntu is stressing your system in ways Windows does not, and you've got a hardware problem that Ubuntu has uncovered.  This is pure conjecture.
[06:01] <chewed-on> Jaunty_Guy: what were you doing right before it freeze ?
[06:02] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you may want to run a benchmarking or stress testing tool to see if your system can handle it.  I suggest mprime.
[06:02] <MidtownNewbie> Howdy, all. Has anyone else ever had issues getting Skype audio to work in Jaunty? I'm on an Inspiron 1100 laptop.
 nothing in particular some time freezes while I am surfing and other times while I am watching movies
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: I had a problem with an old computer randomly hard locking (in Windows and in Linux), and mprime led me to believe the problem was with the memory controller on the motherboard.
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: does it freeze when you view Flash movies in your browser?
[06:03] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: I assume you're using Jaunty?
[06:04] <Jaunty_Guy> Not all the times I am watching youtube now :)
[06:04] <ARMENIAN> how can i make it so when I'm playing video on one workspace and zoom out with somehting like expose, i can see the video still playing instead of a black screen?
[06:04] <Jaunty_Guy> Yes I am
[06:04] <StormWinged> so.... for the 4th day... :D can somebody help me with skype plugin for pidgin?
[06:04] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: what flavor (i386 or x86_64)?
[06:04] <lstarnes> StormWinged: I think you want #pidgin
[06:04] <ectospasm> StormWinged: not I
[06:05] <StormWinged> okay... i`ll try it
[06:05] <Jaunty_Guy> X86_64
[06:06] <ectospasm> I've got three machines with Jaunty 64bit, and I haven't experienced the problems you have been, Jaunty_Guy
[06:06] <Laurenceb> how do I lookup a url?
[06:06] <Laurenceb> to find whos hosting it?
[06:06] <ectospasm> Laurenceb: in the Linux shell:  whois <domain>
[06:06] <chewed-on> Laurenceb: maybe try ping that url ?
[06:06]  * chewed-on shuts up.
[06:06] <hicham> Hi all, i have a question ! can i have a dual monitor on a PC running linux ? i can do that on xP but not on linux..Thanks
[06:06] <Jaunty_Guy> I have another machine too and it works like a charm
[06:06] <Laurenceb> is there a web service that gives you the company?
[06:06] <chewed-on> hicham: yes you can
[06:07] <raylu> !twinview | hicham
[06:07] <ectospasm> hicham: what video chipset are you using?
[06:07] <hicham> how /
[06:07] <lstarnes> Laurenceb: you could try doing a whois query
[06:07] <hicham> Nvidia
[06:07] <raylu> oh... was expecting a more general reponse
[06:07] <hicham> GEforce something
[06:07] <eshaase> why does moving files from my HD to my USB HD take up 100% of my CPU?
[06:07] <Jaunty_Guy> that's why I don't know the problem I am not that expert so I need help
[06:07] <chewed-on> hicham: I think in your system settings there's a monitor section
[06:07] <chewed-on> it has a check box to use dual monitors
[06:07] <raylu> eshaase: it's a reported bug, i think
[06:08] <hicham> do i have to downloand anything ? I am new to linux.. my second day using it
[06:08] <sebsebseb> Laurenceb: this isn't really Ubuntu suppourt anyway this is what you want http://www.netcraft.com
[06:08] <ectospasm> hicham: you'll need to make sure  you've got the nvidia restricted driver installed, and then add Option "TwinView" to /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[06:08] <raylu> hicham: see what ubottu said
[06:08] <chewed-on> hicham: you're using gnome ?
[06:08] <digitalsatori> hi I installed mplayer and w32codecs, also copy the g2m.dll(gotomeeting codec) in the codecs directory, but I'm still not able to play the g2m coded video, anybody have an idea?
[06:08] <hicham> yeah gnome..i am not familair with the termila commands yet
[06:09] <indus> ectospasm: why do i need to add twinview to xorg.conf? doesnt it do that auto?
[06:09] <avythe> everything seems sort of big in gnome...
[06:09] <nataly> hola
[06:09] <avythe> is there a way to reduce the size of fonts and stuff?
[06:09] <sebsebseb> !es |  nataly
[06:09] <nataly> hi
[06:09] <raylu> avythe: so turn down the font size
[06:09] <ectospasm> indus: it probably does, but I keep restoring from an existing xorg.conf that I've kept around, and it still works.
[06:09] <raylu> avythe: system > prefs > appearance, i think
[06:09] <RheaChiQ> thanks ubuntu
[06:09] <nataly> iam begin in ubuntu 9.04
[06:09] <chewed-on> hicham: click on System on your menu bar
[06:09] <avythe> hm
[06:09] <avythe> oh there it is
[06:09] <avythe> i was just in there and didn't see it, thanks
[06:09] <Acedip> there is no drivers stated in Hardware Drivers app in system->admin, though there is an on-board ATI graphics driver
[06:10] <hicham> I have system tools.. nothing saying " system " ?
[06:10] <indus> ectospasm: ok . But now the xorg.conf is auto generated i believe
[06:10] <indus> Acedip: whats the output of lspci .
[06:10] <ectospasm> indus: yes, but iirc it didn't detect my twinview here
[06:10] <ectospasm> ...so I used the old file
[06:10] <digitalsatori> anybody have the experience with playing the gotomeeting encoded video in ubuntu
[06:10] <indus> Acedip: use pastebin
[06:10] <hicham> ops Sorry..I have system on my menu bar ;)
[06:11] <raylu> eshaase: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/131094
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: yeah look for Preference
[06:11] <Acedip> indus, this is the driver line 01:05.0 VGA compatible controller: ATI Technologies Inc RC410 [Radeon Xpress 200]
[06:11] <hicham> i am there
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: I found this using Google: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zFX5UssUgcs   :)
[06:11] <chewed-on> hicham: do you see "Desktop" ?
[06:11] <chewed-on> or "Monitor" ?
[06:11] <chewed-on> or something related to monitor
[06:11] <Acedip> indus, this happened after yesterday's network upgrade to 9.04
[06:11] <indus> Acedip: ok newer ati drivers have dropped support for it i believe, use the open source ati driver,
[06:11] <ectospasm> chewed-on: it's called "Display"
[06:11] <chewed-on> yeah
[06:11] <chewed-on> display
[06:11] <chewed-on> :D
[06:11] <glicks> hey has anyone experienced that when they try to run google earth on the asus eeepc 1000he it kills their wireless internet?
[06:11] <raylu> avythe: np
[06:11] <chewed-on> ectospasm: I haven't used Gnome in a while.
[06:12] <hicham> no man.. just something to do with the display ..appearance
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: but who says your ati card isnt working,in all probability you are running the open source driver
[06:12] <jascase901> I was installing mac4lin's splashscreen on my jaunty ubuntu desktop, and now when i try to load linux from grub i just get stuck in a blank black input screen.
[06:12] <jascase901> All i did was ./make install
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: glxinfo | grep render]
[06:12] <indus> Acedip: glxinfo | grep render
[06:12] <Jaunty_Guy> ectospasm: how to run mprime ? :) sorry not an expert
[06:12] <Acedip> indus, i'm saying so, because after the upgrade, the display is not that clear, there is a bit haziness in the display
[06:13] <hicham> i ll check out the link you pasted..thanks chewed-on
[06:13] <ectospasm> jascase901: maybe take "splash" out of the command line in grub
[06:13] <crapshoot> where can i get help to keep my firefox from crashing?
[06:13] <jascase901> How do i do that?
[06:13] <ectospasm> jascase901: you do see the grub menu, correct?
[06:13] <jascase901> Yes
[06:13] <crapshoot> i have tried the forums and there is no help
[06:13] <Acedip> indus, direct rendering: No (LIBGL_ALWAYS_INDIRECT set) , OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI R300 20060815 x86/MMX/SSE2 NO-TCL
[06:14] <eshaase> raylu: thanks!
[06:14] <jascase901> ectospasm: Yea i see the grub menu
[06:14] <indus> Acedip: ok 1 min
[06:14] <indus> !ati
[06:14] <raylu> eshaase: np
[06:14] <ectospasm> jascase901: type 'e' (I think) to edit the grub line, go to the kernel line in the resulting menu, type 'e' to edit the line, and edit "splash" out of the line.  Then go back to the previous menu, and type 'b' to boot
[06:14] <MidtownNewbie> Anyone? Skype audio on Inspiron laptop?
[06:14] <jascase901> ectospasm: k thanks im gonna try that
[06:14] <ectospasm> jascase901: if it works, then you need to back out that change, or remove the installed splash screens
[06:15] <raylu> ectospasm, jascase901: no need to go back to the previous menu. just hit enter when you're done editing and b
[06:15] <Acedip> indus, ohk, but what can you say about the display not being that clear
[06:15] <jascase901> Ok well imabout to restart my compy
[06:15] <jascase901> to try this
[06:15] <ectospasm> raylu: doesn't hitting enter take you back to the previous menu?
[06:15] <indus> Acedip: adjust contrast ? not sure
[06:15] <jascase901> thanks guys
[06:15] <raylu> ectospasm: after you're done editing, enter takes you to the list of options for that boot config
[06:16] <chewed-on> hicham: alright
[06:16] <raylu> ectospasm: as in, the menu you would be at if you had just hit e once
[06:16] <crapshoot> i've tried changing from heron to ibex and even tried swiftfox...............no change
[06:17] <Jaunty_Guy> How to run mprime on Jaunty
[06:17] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: you should be able to find a link to the source on the MPrime Wikipedia article.
[06:18] <ectospasm> afaik it's not a package in the repos
[06:18] <jascase901> Thanks that worked perfectly
[06:18] <Jaunty_Guy> OK so it is not in the repository
[06:18] <jascase901> I got restarted in like a second
[06:18] <ectospasm> Jaunty_Guy: know that the grub edit is only for that boot, you still need to correct the problem.
[06:18] <indus> Acedip: cant help here. Since ATI has opened their drivers,you need to wait before the community makes it avaiable for your chipset
[06:18] <ectospasm> er, jascase901 ^^^
[06:19] <Anirban1987> How to set up an Ubuntu server for shared hosting ?
[06:19] <indus> Acedip: they dropped support for x200
[06:19] <glicks> it sucks google earth runs smoothly on my eeepc running windows, but its crappy and choppy on linux
[06:19] <crapshoot> at least yoou have google earth
[06:19] <indus> Acedip: best bet is to use hardy 8.04
[06:19] <crapshoot> my firefox keeps crashing
[06:20] <glicks> what you mean crapshoot
[06:20] <Acedip> indus, that is good new :\
[06:20] <ectospasm> crapshoot: welcome to the joys of Firefox!
[06:20] <crapshoot> firefox spikes resources to 100%
[06:20] <ectospasm> crapshoot: yep, it does that from time to time.
[06:20] <crapshoot> at best it runs at 50% of resources
[06:21] <crapshoot> the problem is that it happens all the time
[06:21] <Jaunty_Guy> ectospasm: OK Thanks ..... I'll get back with the results
[06:21] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I've seen it stay at <20% resources, but still thrash the hard drive like crazy
[06:21] <indus> Acedip: thats why they call hardy LTS release, and i believe until 10.04 it wont be supporting x200
[06:21] <indus> ectospasm: exactly , hard disk keeps reading for say 5 sec
[06:22] <Acedip> indus, but I upgraded because needed gtk2.16 and it was not available in hardy
[06:22] <crapshoot> isn't FF the recommended browser?
[06:22] <indus> ectospasm: i read somewhere they released  a fix but it doesnt work
[06:22] <ectospasm> indus: in my case, it's like 5 (or 50) minutes.
[06:22] <ectospasm> indus: there's always Opera
[06:22] <crapshoot> i have tried hardy and ibex but no help
[06:23] <indus> ectospasm: i mean my firefox hangs in this moment as if searching for something, i heard its the sqllite database search it does
[06:23] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I only get it occasionally in Jaunty
[06:23] <Pwnt> Err, I'm havning a problem with Ubuntu 9.04
[06:23] <indus> ectospasm: i reduced cache size which seems to work
[06:23] <indus> Pwnt: what error
[06:23] <crapshoot> mine either locks up or crashes and i have to restart
[06:23] <MidtownNewbie> Can Ekiga Softphone be used to call regular telephones?
[06:23] <Pwnt> It's not really an error, I can't hear anything. I went to youtube and can't hear through my speakers nor ear phones
[06:23] <ectospasm> indus: crapshoot:  the machine I experience this on only has 1GB RAM.  My 4GB system at home doesn't seem to have the problem.
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: only 1gb? heh thats a good amount
[06:24] <ectospasm> (I haven't been using my other 1GB machine at home long enough to notice)
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: mine is 1 gb
[06:24] <crapshoot> jaunty kept crashing my machine so i switched to "a stable" version
[06:24] <ectospasm> indus: heh, you'd think
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: ya why need 4gb?
[06:24] <indus> ectospasm: its been 2 years
[06:24] <ectospasm> indus: 'cuz I hate waiting for swap.
[06:25] <crapshoot> i posted on the forums, but after 2 weeks............nohelp
[06:25] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:25] <ectospasm> indus: why not 4GB.  RAM is Dirt Cheap(TM)
[06:25] <indus> ectospasm: not where i live :)
[06:25] <ectospasm> I just got 2GB laptop RAM for $21.99US
[06:26] <glicks> i guess it takes a few minuts for the cache to get hot with google earth
[06:29] <XDS2010> any avid bluetooth ubuntu users here ?
[06:34] <brennus> ok, so I'm playing with different liveCDs, and the openSUSE one I got sas i686. Is that 64-bit?
[06:34] <myself> HELP
[06:34] <brennus> myself: what's wrong?
[06:34] <myself> does anyone know how to get the Shell - Queue script to work with Transmission torrent client here http://trac.transmissionbt.com/wiki/Scripts it's this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:34] <myself> that
[06:35] <indus> brennus: its 32 bit
[06:35] <brennus> indus: thank you
[06:35] <indus> brennus: 64 bit will say x86_64
[06:36] <myself> brennus how do i make it work
[06:36] <crapshoot> how do i keep FF from crashing/locking up?
[06:36] <indus> crapshoot: when does it craash
[06:37] <crapshoot> i can't come up with a reliable trigger
[06:37] <crapshoot> sometimes there is weird network traffic
[06:38] <crapshoot> other times i am simply looking at the forums or text pages
[06:38] <crapshoot> video pages are a toss up
[06:39] <crapshoot> no issue with RAM or swap............3Gb
[06:40] <crapshoot> i really want to be a "convert", but without finding a solution i can only turn to windoze
[06:40] <indus> crapshoot: maybe its flash
[06:41] <crapshoot> how do i check/fix it?
[06:41] <crapshoot> flash is pretty prevalent
[06:41] <indus> crapshoot: which version of ubuntu u using? have you updated your system?
[06:41] <crapshoot> i have tried hardy, ibex, and jaunty
[06:42] <crapshoot> i know jaunty is buggy so that i discount
[06:42] <Dday> how oyu do a screenshot in ubuntu?
[06:42] <crapshoot> the OS shouldn't affect the browser should it?
[06:42] <ectospasm> Dday: hit PrintScreen
[06:42] <ectospasm> crapshoot: it can
[06:42] <indus> crapshoot: it does
[06:43] <crapshoot> oh!
[06:43] <ectospasm> crapshoot: I mean, the browser has to run in the framework of the OS
[06:43] <crapshoot> how do i check it
[06:43] <indus> crapshoot: there is nothing to check,  u can try opera if you not happy with FF
[06:44] <ectospasm> indus: or any of the console-based browsers.
[06:44] <crapshoot> if FF is a stock browser, wouldn't it have been checked?
[06:44] <vigo> There are many browsers that work in Linux,
[06:44] <vigo> Choice is what it is really about.
[06:44] <indus> crapshoot: Frankly firefox has started sucking, it works much nicer on windows
[06:45] <indus> crapshoot: i just hate it now
[06:45] <ectospasm> indus: I dunno, it's gotten better
[06:45] <ectospasm> though I'm still yearning and aching for Chrome4Linux
[06:45] <crapshoot> FF has always been touted as being the linux browser
[06:45] <kevin__> ectospasm: same here man
[06:45] <indus> ectospasm: no man,the freezes have increased,getting worse with flash etc
[06:45] <vigo> It is like Mutt e-mail, it states, all e-mail clients suck, mutt sucks less.
[06:45] <ectospasm> indus: heh, my experience has been precisely the opposite.
[06:45] <glicks> hey how is epiphany as a browser?
[06:46] <crapshoot> no one has looked at or fixed this?
[06:46] <kevin__> indus: ye i cant play texas holdem poker cus its flash so i have to boot to windows..
[06:46] <indus> ectospasm: thats called luck :)
[06:46] <myself> does anyone know how to get a script working for Transmission??? i want this one http://pastie.org/357236
[06:46] <ectospasm> glicks: epiphany should work
[06:46] <ectospasm> indus: so, I've got good luck?
[06:46] <vigo> I love Epiphany
[06:46] <kevin__> indus: on facebook.. :((
[06:46] <indus> ectospasm: its a known fact, firefox is great on windows
[06:46] <vigo> IceCat
[06:46] <crapshoot> it seems to work for most people
[06:46] <mcrandello> Hi is there any way to recover an encryption seed if your .ecryptfs dir went awol?
[06:46] <glicks> ectospasm, i mean how is it is it good
[06:46] <ectospasm> indus: documentation?
[06:46] <glicks> crappy
[06:46] <mcrandello> (yes I did something stupid)
[06:46] <glicks> etc
[06:46] <indus> i think opera is just great but i dont use it cos it looks ugly on gtk
[06:46] <SmithKurosaki> crapshoot: While FF is the standard ship with linux browser, I much prefer Opera, but when in Fedora, I find I need FF to deal with flash and java. What ubuntu are you running that is giving you problems? (Sounds like you are in windoze atm)
[06:46] <ectospasm> glicks: I have no idea, I don't use epiphany
[06:46] <glicks> can i watch youtube, is it as resource hungry as ff
[06:47] <ectospasm> Opera sucks because it uses Qt
[06:47] <ectospasm> glicks: I haven't a clue
[06:47] <crapshoot> right now i am in ubuntu ibex
[06:47] <indus> ectospasm: hmm no,qt is a very nice tool kit, it sucks because ubuntu is gtk
[06:47] <ectospasm> indus: you prove my point.
[06:47] <vigo> Iceweasel or IceCat are clones of Mozilla
[06:48] <indus> ectospasm: its not the tool kit that sucks is the point, but i heard firefox is also qt?
[06:48] <crapshoot> so no mozilla for ubuntu?
[06:48] <lstarnes> indus: firefox uses gtk, iirc
[06:48] <glicks> FF is gtk
[06:48] <glicks> anyone have any experience with other browsers on ubuntu
[06:48] <ectospasm> indus: AFAIK Firefox is GTK+ based (at least in Ubuntu)
[06:48] <indus> crapshoot: yeah vigo is right, try the many other browsers, iceweasel,swiftfox etc
[06:48] <ectospasm> glicks: I've used Konqueror a little bit.
[06:49] <SmithKurosaki> myself: ktorrent
[06:49] <vigo> crapshoot: I use Mozilla stuff in alot of Linux distros.
[06:49] <indus> ectospasm: lstarnes:ya i guess u are correct, idont know where i read that
[06:49] <indus> firefox is the best open source project but it sucks in linux
[06:49] <crapshoot> is there any way to know what will work without trying out a bunch of browsers to see what works?!
[06:49] <ectospasm> crapshoot: um, no?
[06:49] <kevin__> indus: i wouldnt say it sucks, its fairly developed.. just some bugs
[06:49] <indus> anyways, they have issues handling sqllite databases
[06:49] <ectospasm> crapshoot: it's a matter of taste.
[06:50] <jaime1> hey guys i just created a new /home partition and i had a question. i've followed the wiki rules on how to mount but i've had problems. can anyone help me through the steps?
[06:50] <indus> ok nvm
[06:50] <crapshoot> how about stability?
[06:50] <ectospasm> jaime1: the installer should have set it to automatically mount
[06:50] <ectospasm> ...on boot
[06:50] <vigo> It is as stable as the last backup you made.
[06:50] <indus> jaime1: how did you create the partition?
[06:51] <jaime1> ectospasm: well no i actually just made the new partition through Gparted
[06:51] <ectospasm> my guess is gparted in the installer
[06:51] <ectospasm> jaime1: did you set the mount point for it?  Or are you doing this outside the installer?
[06:51] <crapshoot> so there is no stock stable browser to use?
[06:51] <indus> jaime1: do you have ubuntu already installed?
[06:51] <kevin__> crapshoot: you should have a problem with firefox..
[06:52] <crapshoot> why kevin_?
[06:52] <indus> crapshoot: stick with firefox ,i just installed ff 3.5 beta it seems nicer
[06:52] <kevin__> shoudnt**
[06:52] <indus> its in synaptic
[06:52] <indus> its called shiretoko browser for now
[06:52] <jaime1> ectospasm: yes i have it installed, and no that's what i'm having problems with mounting it. i'm currently on the live cd because i already changed to the new home, but for some reason it wont read it so i had to do it through the live CD
[06:52] <vigo> mcrandello: I am still looking for the Ubuntu propsed fix for that. (if one exists)
[06:53] <indus> !firefox
[06:53] <indus> jaime1: can you paste output of sudo fdisk -l
[06:53] <jaime1> ectospasm: i followed the steps on this guide  http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome and i manged to change to the new home, but now it won't read it. it tries to read the old /home location.
[06:54] <vigo> indus: I saw that 3.5 or something is shipping on Fedora now.
[06:54] <jaime1> indus: outpust of sudo fdisk? sorry i'm kinda new at the partitioning
[06:54] <jaime1> indus: where would i find that?
[06:55] <indus> jaime1: in terminal (menu>accessories>terminal) type sudo fdisk -l
[06:55] <milo_> is google chrome already available for ubuntu?
[06:56] <jaime1> indus: Disk /dev/sda: 80.0 GB, 80054059008 bytes
[06:56] <jaime1> 255 heads, 63 sectors/track, 9732 cylinders
[06:56] <jaime1> Units = cylinders of 16065 * 512 = 8225280 bytes
[06:56] <jaime1> Disk identifier: 0xe4651a0a
[06:56] <jaime1>    Device Boot      Start         End      Blocks   Id  System
[06:56] <jaime1> /dev/sda1               1         122      979933+  82  Linux swap / Solaris
[06:56] <FloodBot3> jaime1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:56] <jaime1> indus: sorry
[06:56] <indus> jaime1: hmm use paste
[06:56] <indus> !paste | jaime1
[06:56] <indus> jaime1: np jaime1 it happens to all :)
[06:57] <mhiku> how can i install mysql 6 and php mysql 6 using apt-get ?
[06:57] <indus> jaime1: can i suggest you reinstall ubuntu with a separate home if you wish? The procedure you are following is a bit advanced
[06:57] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/
[06:58] <kevin__> mhiku: do you have to use apt-get?? have u searched mysql in synaptic
[06:58] <crapshoot> it seems like things are breaking down
[06:58] <kevin__> mhiku: try apt-cache
[06:58] <mhiku> ahh so its possible
[06:58] <jaime1> indus: yeah i mean i pretty much got it down. but some of the commands that i was supposed to enter weren't really working. i mean i pretty much did it but it's not reading /home its reading the old /home not the new one
[06:59] <mhiku> because i search aptitude search mysql and the latest there is 5.1 only
[06:59] <kevin__> indus: do you have ff 3.5?? hows it??
[06:59] <indus> jaime1: i need to see your fstab file
[06:59] <indus> kevin__: just search in synaptic and you will see ff 3.5
[06:59] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/ that is the link
[07:00] <indus> jaime1: yes i got it
[07:00] <jaime1> indus: if that's not working then try this http://paste.ubuntu.com/198230/plain/
[07:00] <kevin__> indus: so i dont need to download the .deb.. dang already started lol..
[07:00] <mcrandello> vigo: thanks for looking btw
[07:00] <indus> kevin__: no
[07:00] <kevin__> indus: ima do it the easy way lol.. x
[07:00] <kevin__> D
[07:01] <jaime1> indus: currently i'm on the live CD
[07:01] <indus> jaime1: have you unmounted the old home partition?
[07:01] <vigo> mcrandello: Did you locate a fix?
[07:01] <jaime1> indus: yeah that's where i had the problem
[07:01] <indus> jaime1: i mean i hope you followed all the steps,
[07:01] <mcrandello> not yet
[07:02] <jaime1> indus: yeah i would enter the exact command and all it would say is that it couldn't find that file. well not the exact command but you know what i mean
[07:02] <rashed2020_> Hi
[07:02] <mcrandello> vigo: afaict you need both the passphrase and a key (which I deleted) to open the files
[07:02] <rashed2020_> What does it mean when there's a picture of a lock on a file?
[07:02] <rashed2020_> It's a .bin
[07:02] <vigo> mcrandello: Lost DSA? or SHA?
[07:02] <indus> jaime1: find . -depth -print0 | cpio --null --sparse -pvd /new/ this line?
[07:02] <jaime1> indus: it might be that the command given is wrong but i haven't been able to find another page at the moment
[07:02] <mcrandello> vigo: my .encryptfs directory whatever that had in it
[07:02] <zopiac> how do i make all image files open in a certain program?
[07:03] <vigo> mcrandello: Try a look at this one, am still looking , http://www.codinghorror.com/blog/archives/001267.html
[07:03] <jaime1> indus: yeah that exact one
[07:03] <indus> jaime1: i have no idea what it does
[07:03] <indus> jaime1: i dont think i even understand that tutorial
[07:04] <indus> jaime1: i guess you try those steps again then
[07:04] <indus> jaime1: what cant it find exactly?
[07:04] <jaime1> indus: i used this page http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome  well that live is to back up the old /home directory on the old partition and also move it to the new one. after that's done you pretty much delete the old /home then put the new one to boot
[07:05] <jaime1> indus: ok give a sec and let me try it again
[07:06] <jaime1> it says mv: cannot stat /old/home no such file or directory
[07:06] <myself> hey I just did this "i did this $ adduser --disabled-password transmission" in terminal cause someone was trying to help me run a script, what exactly did that do? i want to undo it
[07:06] <vigo> mcrandello: Whew! found an entire .log on that, http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2006/12/19/%23ubuntu.txt lot of spatter to look over, but is a good read.
[07:06] <indus> jaime1: give me your fstab file
[07:06] <indus> jaime1: paste it
[07:06] <jaime1> indus: so i guess there is no more /old
[07:06] <gogeta> myself lol
[07:06] <myself> gogeta can you help me :)
[07:06] <jaime1> indus: the one that i gave you right now?
[07:07] <indus> jaime1: cat /etc/fstab
[07:07] <gogeta> myself remove the user
[07:07] <myself> how do i do that
[07:07] <myself> is the user called "transmission"?
[07:07] <gogeta> well whatever u setupname yo
[07:07] <myself> i set it as the same username
[07:07] <myself> as i have now
[07:07] <gogeta> outch
[07:08] <myself> what does that mean
[07:08] <jaime1> indus: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198240/
[07:08] <vigo> mcrandello: And this Debian page has a bit to say on that. http://d-i.alioth.debian.org/svn/debian-installer/packages/partman/partman-crypto/debian/po/fi.po
[07:08] <jaime1> indus: that should be it
[07:08] <myself> ivan@ivan-desktop:~$ users
[07:08] <myself> ivan ivan ivan
[07:08] <indus> jaime1: u dont have the new home partition mentioned there
[07:08] <myself> what do i do gogeta
[07:09] <indus> jaime1: aah wait, this is the live cd fstab i think
[07:09] <gogeta> myself i think it did make a user group transmission
[07:10] <myself> so how do i get rid of that extra user/usergroup?
[07:10] <gogeta> in admin
[07:10] <indus> jaime1: can you see your ubuntu installation?
[07:10] <gogeta> and users and groups
[07:10] <jaime1> indus: yes you are right.
[07:10] <indus> jaime1: can you go to the / of that one
[07:10] <gogeta> you can change the settings w a nice gui
[07:10] <myself> how do i run that in sudo
[07:10] <gogeta> it will ask
[07:10] <jaime1> indus: i cannot
[07:11] <jaime1> indus: unless....
[07:11] <myself> okay i did it, badass, thank you
[07:11] <indus> jaime1: you need to mount it i think
[07:11] <vigo> mcrandello: This Aruns Blog explains what it is, sorta : http://www.blog.arun-prabha.com/tag/encryptfs/
[07:11] <jaime1> indus: yeah let me try it again. i found another page which might help me more  http://www.ubuntu4life.com/node/30
[07:11] <indus> jaime1: do you remember the dev name? like /dev/sda1 or 2
[07:12] <bingo> Hi room
[07:12] <bingo> i am using ubuntu 8.04
[07:12] <zerosix06> hi
[07:12] <gregorah> I'm having an issue with my webcam using eeebuntu. The issue is that nothing I do seems to get the webcam to actually work.
[07:12] <zerosix06> i to
[07:13] <gogeta> gergorah kinda a ols distro
[07:13] <gogeta> :-old
[07:13] <jaime1> indus: yeah the new home was /dev/sda3 while the old was sda2
[07:13] <bingo> i want to stop my iptables service but i didnt find /etc/init.d/iptables there
[07:13] <gregorah> Doesn't work with windows either.
[07:13] <gregorah> :(
[07:13] <gregorah> But this isn't #windows
[07:13] <gregorah> so whatever.
[07:13] <indus> jaime1: ok do a sudo mount /dev/sda2 /mnt
[07:13] <gogeta> gregorah eeebuntu is dead
[07:14] <jaime1> indus: ok i got it
[07:14] <bingo> how?
[07:14] <gogeta> http://www.geteasypeasy.com/
[07:14] <gregorah> are you sure? I thought it was ubuntu eee or something that was dead.
[07:14] <gogeta> thats its new name
[07:14] <bingo> zerosix06: if i want to stop iptables service then ho can i do ?
[07:14] <indus> jaime1: basically you just need to add a line in fstab about the new home thats all
[07:14] <jaime1> indus: now should i do the next step, copyin files over? the cd/home find . -depth -print etc?
[07:14] <gogeta> ubuntu netbook remix also has good support for most netbooks
[07:14] <nomad77> bingo: sudo iptables -F  flushes loaded ruleset
[07:15] <indus> jaime1: ah no you have already done that
[07:15] <gogeta> and thats a offical
[07:15] <rob_p> bingo, iptables is a tool, not a service.
[07:15] <vigo> bingo: Not advised, but is do-able.
[07:15] <vigo> !iptables
[07:15] <bingo> nomand777: and if i again want to start its service ?
[07:15] <indus> jaime1: can you do a 'cd /dev/sda2?
[07:15] <bingo> rob_p: tool yes tool for firewall ?
[07:15] <bingo> actualy i am new so dont konw very well..
[07:15] <jaime1> indus: yes i can
[07:16] <vigo> Learning is most of the fun!
[07:16] <rob_p> bingo, Precisely.  It's a tool used in the configuration of the kernel packet filtering.
[07:16] <bingo> rob_P: how is it not service ?
[07:16] <gregorah> gogeta: Easy Peasy appears to be Ubuntu-eee, not eeebuntu
[07:16] <indus> jaime1: good then find fstab from the /etc in that partition
[07:16] <indus> jaime1: understand?
[07:16] <indus> sudo gedit /dev/sda2/etc/fstab
[07:16] <gogeta> hregorah ubuntu netbook remix is a offical ubuntu :)
[07:16] <bingo> nomand777: sudo iptables -F ok .. now i again want to start iptables then ?
[07:17] <gogeta> supports my 900a fine
[07:17] <indus> jaime1: iam not sure if thats correct
[07:17] <rob_p> bingo, A service implies a process that runs... iptables is not, "running" but gets called during the initial configuration of the kernel packet filtering mechanism.
[07:17] <jaime1> indus: i enter it but another line just pops out
[07:17] <rob_p> bingo, Once iptables establishes the ruleset, it is not, "running."  Understand?
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: aah sorry
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: bad syntax
[07:18] <gregorah> I'll try it, if the webcam doesn't work be prepared to hear me complain :P
[07:18] <jaime1> indus:  yea
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: just do a cd /etc/fstab
[07:18] <bingo> rob_P: ok, so its mean it is not daemon, even in cEntos ?
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: no
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /etc
[07:18] <lstarnes> bingo: it's not a daemon, it runs inside the kernel
[07:18] <jaime1> indus: no
[07:18] <rob_p> bingo, Yes.  Even in CentOS.
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: omg ok got it
[07:18] <bingo> lsarnes: ok..
[07:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /mnt
[07:19] <bingo> rob_P: $sudo iptables -L ok.. for flushing rules.. then $sudo iptables-save for again setup rules or in odl working condiition ?
[07:19] <gogeta> just as big as real ubuntu lol
[07:19] <indus> jaime1: got it? now do a cat /etc/fstab
[07:19] <gogeta> how that a eee remix
[07:19] <gogeta> lol
[07:19] <jaime1> indus: yeah i entered it while i was in 'cd /dev/sda2 and when i press enter it just goes into the next line
[07:20] <bingo> rob_P: but in centos when we do #service iptables stop then it got stop.. then no kernel etc ?
[07:20] <rob_p> bingo, I'm not familiar with iptables-save.
[07:20] <indus> jaime1: no no press ctl-x and exit
[07:20] <indus> jaime1: from a prompt type cd /mnt
[07:20] <indus> from a $ sign that is
[07:20] <jaime1> indus: oh ok
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, That's because they happen to call it iptables even though it differs from the utility that is iptables.  Thank them for the confusion!
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, They really should have called it something else.
[07:21] <bingo> i see...
[07:21] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i did and i get the same one the one i showed you earlier on
[07:21] <indus> jaime1: paste the output of mount
[07:21] <rob_p> bingo, ...like an iptables configurator or whatever...
[07:22] <AnActivist> Hey everyone I'm trying to learn about buffer overflows but I can't seem to get around the stack protection, is there another distribution or some other source I could check out that addresses these modern changes in the 2.6.x kernel / ubuntu 9.04?
[07:22] <gogeta> lol
[07:22] <gogeta> anactivist the logs?
[07:22] <nomad77> bingo: sorry was reading commands available are in /usr/sbin
[07:22] <vigo> bingo: You may be talking about a ufw or some other frontend fort iptables, FireWallBuilder, GuFW, and stuff are frontends GUI widgets for iptables.
[07:23] <mcrandello_> auth-client-config: error: option -p: invalid choice: 'ecryptfs_standard' (choose from 'ldap_example', 'kerberos_example', 'cracklib')
[07:23] <AnActivist> gogeta, I'm sorry what do you mean by the logs?
[07:23] <mcrandello_> haha
[07:23] <gogeta> to find the overflow
[07:23] <gogeta> lol
[07:23] <jeffschmidt> hello
[07:23] <jaime1> indus: ok here it is, http://paste.ubuntu.com/198255/
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: in that psychocats tutorial , i suppose you have mounted the old partition on a directory called /old?
[07:24] <AnActivist> gogeta, I'm sorry I'm still not understanding, are you talking about the dev logs?
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: could you please navigate to that folder?
[07:24] <jaime1> indus: ok give me a sec
[07:24] <indus> jaime1: have you done those steps now?
[07:25] <jaime1> indus: yes i did them all
[07:25] <conan> hey guys, everytime i try running TF2 with wine it crashes at the same point it worked when i ran windows
[07:25] <indus> jaime1: so just go to that /old folder and look for etc and fstab inside
[07:25] <jaime1> indus: no the old partition was in the same /dev/sda2
[07:25] <AnActivist> gogeta?
[07:25] <indus> jaime1: aah sorry yes /old is only old home
[07:26] <gogeta> baa thought you had one nv
[07:26] <indus> jaime1: 1 sec i want the old /
[07:26] <jaime1> indus: yes
[07:26] <gogeta> dev lof i say so
[07:26] <gogeta> logs
[07:27] <gogeta> now im kinda bord
[07:27] <AnActivist> gogeta, wouldn't that be for trying to exploit ubuntu itself? I'm just trying to exploit simple c programs that I right
[07:27] <indus> jaime1: i think there is an error in the tutorial. /old will not have etc because /etc comes direct under /
[07:27] <kevin__> indus: did u have to make a icon for ff in gnome??
[07:27] <gogeta> nv
[07:28] <Sensiva> Hello all, in Intrepid and Jaunty there is a program that used to save my sudo password, so I don't get prompted for it again and again, now I am back to Hardy, how to do the same thing?
[07:28] <gogeta> nm
[07:28] <indus> kevin__: no
[07:28] <AnActivist> I'm trying to perhaps run a more vunerable distro instide vmware?
[07:28] <kevin__> indus: wel what the eff
[07:28] <jaime1> indus: yeah that's where mine said that the directory of file did not exits.
[07:28] <gogeta> anactivist and why would you wanna do that
[07:28] <kevin__> indus: and all my plugins are def not compatible dang
[07:28] <kevin__> no more stylis facebook
[07:28] <gogeta> anactivist best place to mess up a program (windows)
[07:29] <indus> jaime1: can you navigate to that folder /old
[07:29] <AnActivist> yes I know but I'm trying to learn about memory management inside linux first
[07:29] <gogeta> linux is prety tough to exploite its has protection inside the os
[07:29] <indus> jaime1: just tell me if you see a folder called etc in there
[07:29] <AnActivist> I basically need a distro with a 2.4.x kernel that I can run inside vmware
[07:29] <gogeta> xdsl or puppy retro are 2.4
[07:30] <gogeta> dsl
[07:30] <gogeta> or a relly old ubuntu
[07:30] <jaime1> indus:  well there was never an /old folder. it just stated that /dev/sda2 was the "old" folder. so i do sudo /dev/sda2?
[07:30] <stealth-> AnActivist: or you could take any other distro and roll back the kernel
[07:30] <stealth-> AnActivist: or get a earlier version
[07:30] <indus> jaime1: do a cd /old
[07:30] <gogeta> stealth lol and brake everything
[07:30] <jaime1> ok
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: well if its in a vm, he doesnt have much to loose
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: and installing a new kernel isnt that hard
[07:31] <gogeta> stealth he will suceed in braking it lol
[07:31] <jaime1> indus: ok now look for a etc?
[07:31] <indus> yes
[07:31] <indus> cd /etc
[07:31] <kevin__> indus: eff the beta of ff... lmao, ill stick with my 3.1 or watev
[07:31] <indus> jaime1: no just cd etc( no slash)
[07:31] <stealth-> gogeta: heh
[07:32] <indus> kevin__: its not even a beta now
[07:32] <AnActivist> stealth-, how do I roll back the kernel?
[07:32] <kevin__> well it say its not final..?
[07:32] <mcrandello_> alright as I understand it here
[07:32] <stealth-> AnActivist: simply install a older kernel........
[07:32] <mcrandello_> http://dustinkirkland.wordpress.com/2008/08/06/encrypted-private-directories-in-ubuntu-intrepid/
[07:32] <jaime1> indus:  well i put the dash and it took me to, ubuntu@ubuntu: /etc$
[07:32] <indus> jaime1: good
[07:32] <gogeta> stealth lol if i said what i whanted to they would kick me lol
[07:32] <gogeta> stealth a old joke
[07:32] <indus> jaime1: now cat fstab
[07:32] <indus> paste it
[07:33] <mcrandello_> there is no way to recover the passphrase used to decrypt an encrypted private dir once .ecryptfs is gone
[07:33] <rashed2020_> Does it matter what distro a binary is made for?
[07:33] <stealth-> AnActivist: you can google for instructions on installing a kernel, just make sure you use the files from an older kernel.
[07:33] <stealth-> gogeta: pm me it, I wanna hear it :P
[07:33] <jaime1> indus: nope exactly the same as the ones i showed you
[07:33] <Papageno> I feel silly asking this, but I accidentally unset show menubar and I'm unsure as to how to set it again since I no longer have access to the menu bar to do this. So how do I?
[07:33] <losher> rashed2020_: yes, it matters a lot usually...
[07:34] <indus> jaime1: yes cos thats your ubuntu installation fstab
[07:34] <indus> jaime1: paste it here
[07:34] <rashed2020_> losher, I'm getting a file not found when I try running the .bin file. Is that the error I'm supposed to be getting?
[07:35] <losher> rashed2020_: back up a bit. What .bin file are you trying to "run", and where did you get it?
[07:36] <indus> jaime1: ? the file
[07:36] <nomin> is there a way to play with the sreensavers with a separate program?
[07:36] <nomin> there's a cool screensaver installed by default that shows different molecules and I want to go through each one manually
[07:36] <nomin> they're in 3-D and they move around
[07:37] <rashed2020_> losher, RealNetworks Helix Media Server. It says it's for RHEL, figured I'd try it on Ubuntu instead of downloading CentOS
[07:37] <nomin> it's the Molecule screensaver
[07:37] <brennus> ok, so Ubuntu says that Transmission is already running, but I don't see it on my desktop and I'm not using it. Is there a way to shut it down or make it visible, either way?
[07:38] <nomin> brennus: is it in the tray?
[07:38] <losher> rashed2020_: brave of you. I'd be surprised it if works. So the .bin file is supposed to be one of those self-extracting install scripts?
[07:38] <indus> brennus: right click on gnome panel, add application window list
[07:39] <rashed2020_> losher, Yep. That's exactly what is.
[07:39] <milo_> please how could I fiix this: Authentication failed when i type su -
[07:39] <ziroday> milo_: use sudo <applicationname>
[07:39] <lstarnes> milo_: use sudo -i
[07:39] <brennus> indus: I already have application window list. Transmission is not in the list, yet ubuntu says it's running already when I try to open it
[07:39] <losher> rashed2020_: try making it executable e.g. chmod +x file.bin then run it ./file.bin
[07:39] <brennus> nomin: nope.  but it never is
[07:40] <indus> brennus: then kill it from system monitor
[07:40] <nomin> lol.  Looks like other people like this Molecule screensaver too:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=291503
[07:40] <milo_> thanks guys, but i want to understand why it's saying authentication failed
[07:41] <ziroday> milo_: su is depreciated in ubuntu, you should use sudo (-i) instead
[07:41] <rashed2020_> losher, Tried that. No use. I'm surprised it says file not found. I'm on a 32bit system, so installing ia32-libs isn't the solution to this either :/
[07:41] <milo_> ziroday: i see. thanks
[07:41] <SandGorgon> how do i check whether my laptop hdd is connected via sata interface or not? is there any lshw-like command
[07:41] <h6w1> How do I upgrade Ubuntu on a USB key?  If I try to upgrade, I run out of disk space pretty quickly.
[07:42] <losher> rashed2020_: run 'file file.bin' and see what kind of file 'file' thinks it is, if you see what I mean...
[07:43] <ziroday> SandGorgon: you can see that with smartmontools. Install it and do smartctl -a /dev/<harddrive>
[07:43] <brennus> indus:thank you! that was just what I was looking for
[07:43] <indus> brennus: :)
[07:44] <rashed2020_> losher, rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin: ELF 32-bit LSB executable, Intel 80386, version 1 (SYSV), dynamically linked (uses shared libs), for GNU/Linux 2.6.9, not stripped
[07:45] <_M4rk_> i have setup domains on my vps using apache manually. when doing this, is there a way to view the domains like with cpanel you can go to <ip>/~name. is there anything like this i can do?
[07:45] <_M4rk_> i want to view them before the domains propogate
[07:46] <om26er> how to install xorg development package
[07:46] <losher> rashed2020_: Hm. I thought it would be a shell script but it's not. There may be no way to force it to execute on your system. Does ldd rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin even find the libraries?
[07:46] <ziroday> _M4rk_: a neat trick is editing your /etc/hosts file to point at the domain. So for instance foo.example.com 111.111.111.111 line in /etc/hosts would make foo.example.org go to 111.111.111.111
[07:47] <rashed2020_> losher, /usr/bin/ldd: line 117: ./rs1201-ga-linux-rhel5.bin: No such file or directory
[07:47] <rashed2020_> I don't know if it's talking about the libraries or the actual file
[07:47] <ziroday> _M4rk_: err that should be 111.111.111.111  foo.example.org in your /etc/hosts sorry
[07:47] <_M4rk_> but that would try and go to the domain wouldn't it?
[07:47] <_M4rk_> the domains are not pointing to the server yet
[07:47] <losher> rashed2020_; either way it's bad news....
[07:48] <_M4rk_> ideally i would like to go to like <ip>/domain or somethin
[07:48] <jaime1> hey sorry i guess my live cd froze or something:-(
[07:48] <SavageLunch> I'm trying to set up an FTP server
[07:48] <SavageLunch> Does anybody know how MasqueradeAddress works?
[07:49] <jaime1> hello i was having problems with mounting a new /home can anyone help me?
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: hi
[07:50] <Snooper-nix> hi
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: yeah sorry my live CD froze
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: have you moved the old partition with the mv command?
[07:50] <ziroday> _M4rk_: that's the point, you don't need the domains to propogate as you have manually pointed to them in your own computers DNS if you like
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: no i barely rebooted
[07:50] <indus> jaime1: its still mounting the old because you probably havent moved it
[07:50] <rashed2020_> losher, Sorry I disconnected by mistake. I asked if it was time to install CentOS.
[07:50] <ziroday> _M4rk_: so if you've created the subdomain in apache already it will work
[07:50] <jaime1> indus: yeah probably
[07:51] <jaime1> indus: i had all of my pages up but now they're deleted, i'm gonna have to start it again
[07:51] <losher> rashed2020_: well that's the one thing that's pretty much guaranteed to work....
[07:51] <indus> jaime1: what pages?
[07:51] <kevin__> Fedora 11 ftw
[07:51] <rashed2020_> losher, Alright. Thanks for all the help!
[07:51] <thanatos> anyone know why I can't get into #java?
[07:51] <ziroday> thanatos: #freenode will be able to help you
[07:52] <jaime1> indus: oh like the progress on the terminal, and the guides i was using and all of that
[07:52] <thanatos> i'm id'd on nickserv
[07:52] <thanatos> ok
[07:52] <indus> jaime1: the procedure is actually easy
[07:52] <indus> jaime1: a little patience :)
[07:52] <jaime1> indus: yeah i know
[07:53] <indus> jaime1: that old ubuntu / must be mounted now
[07:53] <jaime1> indus: so, so far i have the new /home mounted.
[07:53] <indus> jaime1:but arent you using live cd now?
[07:53] <jaime1> indus: yeah. i was before actually. that's why it froze. i was in the middle of processing a terminal command when it just froze.
[07:53] <linux09> hello everyone
[07:54] <indus> jaime1: now you are not on live cd?
[07:54] <jaime1> indus: i think i still have to copy files
[07:54] <indus> jaime1: just follow the steps again ,it should work
[07:54] <jaime1> indus: yeah i always was, but i just had to reboot cuz it froze. i can't get on regularly because it reading the old /home which is deleted
[07:55] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm on that
[07:55] <indus> jaime1: it will only read the old home if you havent edited your fstab to use it
[07:55] <linux09> I will be looking to set up an IRC server on my ubuntu box, does anyone have a suggestion for a which IRC server package i should use, and also if its possible a server that outputs the IRC server stats to a webpage
[07:55] <indus> jaime1: this line /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[07:55] <linux09> i will figure out the configuration myself
[07:56] <indus> jaime1: will make it read the new /home
[07:56] <marco614> dove sono le chat room?
[07:56] <jaime1> indus:  ok yeah
[07:56] <indus> jaime1: thats why i asked for the fstab
[07:57] <jaime1> indus: well i tried to copy the files over but i got this cannot make directory /mnt/new home permission denied
[07:57] <indus> jaime1: need to use a sudo
[07:57] <indus> mkdir /mnt/new_home ( or whatever name u want)
[07:57] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm gonna have to go through the fstab cd /dev/ etc....
[07:58] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i went into that /new_home
[07:58] <jaime1> indus: so now i go /fstab/ ?
[07:59] <indus> jaime1: why into the new home? the fstab is not in any home
[07:59] <kr3wie> any1 having boring and some sparetime to help a guy just started using ubuntu?:) PM me
[07:59] <indus> jaime1: its under the original ubuntu installations root partition the /
[07:59] <jaime1> indus: well isn't fstab in cd /dev/sda2 which was the original?
[07:59] <indus> /etc/fstab which i hope you have mounted under /old
[07:59] <jaime1> indus: that's where i was
[08:00] <indus> jaime1: ok if sda2 is wher you intalled ubuntu then yes its there
[08:00] <kr3wie> how do i mount bin/cue files in ubuntu ?:o
[08:00] <BigMack83> ok, i have created a user on my slice. using the cli i can login as normal. but when i use nautilus to try and use ssh/sftp to use the browser for files it doesnt accept my password. /var/log/auth.log only says invalid password. when using nautilus this is my response in the error log;
[08:00] <indus> jaime1: so can i see the fstab now ?
[08:00] <BigMack83> Jun 18 06:24:25 shamce sshd[7273]: Did not receive identification string from 173.127.211.208
[08:00] <BigMack83> Jun 18 06:24:55 shamce sshd[7275]: Failed password for aneikirk from 173.127.211.208 port 34527 ssh2
[08:00] <BigMack83> i cant figure out why they cant login via sftp/ssh to browse files
[08:01] <jaime1> indus: ok weird. now when i go into cd /dev/sda2 it says not a directory
[08:01] <BigMack83> sorry when i say slice i mean i have a VPS server. force of habit
[08:01] <indus> jaime1: exactly, you cant do a cd device name but a  cd to the place where you mounted it
[08:02] <indus> jaime1: so do a cd /old
[08:02] <indus> cd /old/etc
[08:02] <Slart> kr3wie: you can't.. you'll have to convert them to isos first
[08:02] <Slart> kr3wie: use bchunk
[08:02] <jaime1> indus: no. cd/old/etc - no such file or directory
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: have you run this step >>> sudo mkdir old?
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: then sudo mount /dev/sda2 /old?
[08:03] <paulo> hi im getting to many open file errors while using eclipe
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: then sudo mount -t /dev/sda2 /old?
[08:03] <indus> sorry i missed the -t
[08:03] <indus> jaime1: unless you create a dir and mount it how will you see it
[08:04] <luckylucy> i want an opinion, not a distro fight.  I have xp on my laptop, debian on the servers, but i want to add a linux distro to my laptop, something with a little more "glitz" than my debian ones on the server, and works right out of the box.  something to "play with...", something "fun"... is ubuntu the one for me?
[08:04] <misc--> hello, is there a way I can run a command when a network interface comes up
[08:04] <jaime1> indus: yeah i think we're looking at completely different guides.
[08:04] <Spike1506> luckylucy, then ubuntu is the best choise imo
[08:04] <misc--> (automatically that is)
[08:04] <Spike1506> choice*
[08:04] <indus> jaime1:look athe the original guide
[08:04] <paulo> is this  an eclipse error or does  it  involve security settings
[08:04] <mobi-sheep> luckylucy: Yes. :3
[08:04] <indus> jaime1: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/separatehome
[08:04] <indus> jaime1: its good enough
[08:05] <jaime1> indus: i have no sudo mount -t on /old. only sudo mount -t on  /new home
[08:05] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i was on another one i found
[08:05] <indus> jaime1: well,the procedure is similar
[08:05] <jaime1> http://ubuntu.wordpress.com/2006/01/29/move-home-to-its-own-partition/ i think this one is simpler
[08:06] <indus> jaime1: did you mount the ubuntu partition ?
[08:06] <indus> jaime1: i think older one is simpler
[08:07] <indus> jaime1: ok come in pm
[08:07] <kevin__> indus: seems pretty straightforward about moving /home's
[08:07] <indus> kevin__: ya well it is
[08:07] <kevin__> wat seems to be the trouble
[08:07] <indus> kevin__: but there is a critical copy featuer which shouldnt be missed
[08:08] <indus> kevin__: well,he is changing guides
[08:08] <indus> :)
[08:08] <kevin__> ...??
[08:08] <kevin__> crazy
[08:08] <kevin__> wat critical cp feature is that lol>
[08:08] <jaime1> indus:   sorry my comp all of a sudden froze. damn disk ok let me look at the older one
[08:08] <canadaeh> im now refred to as /me
[08:08]  * canadaeh is kevin
[08:09] <jaime1> indus: ok let's restart at the first step
[08:09] <indus> kevin__: well,creating a new home is easy,but making ubuntu to read it involves a lot of linkages in the home dir and moving it to new home and preserve those links
[08:09] <jaime1> indus: the sudo kdir/old thing
[08:09] <indus> jaime1: ok do the first 4 steps he says with mdir /old etc
[08:09] <canadaeh> indus: like doesnt fstab take care of all that
[08:09] <indus> jaime1: just use your partition names etc correct
[08:10] <indus> jaime1: now you are on live cd so no
[08:10] <indus> jaime1: ok i needa smoke 5 min
[08:10] <jaime1> indus: yeah
[08:10] <canadaeh> jaime1: you gettin it bro
[08:10] <paulo> help
[08:10] <paulo>  pls
[08:10] <syn-ack> hah
[08:11] <canadaeh> i just moved my /boot to a new partition so its probly around the same guide..
[08:11]  * syn-ack broke his mp3 hahaha
[08:11] <paulo> regarding open file limits
[08:11] <indus> jaime1: the concept is>> u mount the ubuntu partition ,then edit its fstab to add the new /home, and also remove the old /home
[08:11]  * syn-ack digs in to the internals of this new alpha to figure out whats up...
[08:11] <paulo> eclipse is throwing a too many open files error
[08:11] <kr3wie> any1 have time to help a n00b? PM me :)
[08:12] <jaime1> indus: yeah i get it. i'm just having problems locating the old /home
[08:12] <syn-ack> kr3wie: keep it in the channel. Whats up
[08:12] <sylwester> hello!!!
[08:12] <indus> jaime1: its under the /old/home
[08:12] <canadaeh> lol that sounds hilarious
[08:12] <syn-ack> indus: unless he already mounted the new /home
[08:12] <fosa> i'm not sure if my system is 64 bit or 32bit.. how do I tell?
[08:13] <paulo> help
[08:13] <syn-ack> fosa: what type of proc do you have?
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: by your processor
[08:13] <indus> jaime1: did you mount /dev/sda2 on /old?
[08:13] <fosa> core2duo
[08:13] <syn-ack> fosa: yes.
[08:13] <fosa> yes what?
[08:13] <indus> syn-ack: he is on live cd so wont matter
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: then its 32bit
[08:13] <canadaeh> fosa: 64 is amd
[08:13] <paulo> open file limits do they still apply yo jaunty
[08:13] <jaime1> indus: ok yeah i mounted
[08:13] <indus> fosa: canadaeh:its a 64 bit processor
[08:13] <syn-ack> indus: ah, channels moving a little fast
[08:13] <klem> Hi
[08:13] <kr3wie> well it's like imbarresing but yeah shit the same. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf -
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ cd bchunk-1.2.0
[08:13] <kr3wie>   	$ make
[08:13] <FloodBot3> kr3wie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:14] <indus> jaime1: now ok cd /old/home
[08:14] <canadaeh> indus: he has a core2duo??
[08:14] <fosa> canadaeh, indus ah.. which is it?
[08:14] <indus> jaime1: thats your old home
[08:14] <Pemuda_Beruyung> kjhkjk
[08:14] <canadaeh> fosa: 32bit lol
[08:14] <jaime1> indus: yeah i'm there
[08:14] <syn-ack> indus: a core2 is a going to be either or
[08:14] <Slart> paulo: what was the limit before jaunty?
[08:14] <syn-ack> generally they are 64 if they are a newer proc
[08:15] <indus> fosa: a core2duo is a 64 bit processor but whats ur question
[08:15] <jaime1> indus:  shouldnt it be cd /old/home?
[08:15] <paulo> i've searched it was 1028
[08:15] <syn-ack> indus: you just answered it. :P
[08:15] <fosa> syn-ack, canadaeh indus i thought it was 32bit but i'm having trouble getting java-plugin to work for firefox so now i'm not sure
[08:15] <indus> jaime1: ya cd /old/home isnt that what i siad?
[08:15] <syn-ack> Its a 64 bit proc....
[08:15] <jaime1> indus: ok
[08:15] <JediMaster> Hi guys, every once in a while (it's been about a month now) one of our ubuntu servers has some ext3 issues and sets the root partition as read only, can anyone help me figure out why? the drive is on a raid 0 mirrored array, and I've just checked it's running without problems
[08:15] <kr3wie> ﻿well it's like imbarresing but yeah shit the same. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:﻿$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf - $ cd bchunk-1.2.0 $ make # make install. I understand that i should use the terminal, but... argh how does this work O_O
[08:15] <syn-ack> fosa: Now to be honest, it will work either way as a 32 or 64 bit mode
[08:16] <jaime1> indus: so now find . -depth -print 0, etc....?
[08:16] <indus> jaime1: but i believe you moved the old home so i dont think you can find it
[08:16] <jussi01> !language | kr3wie
[08:16] <JediMaster> dmesg gives: [3249572.040012] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 94.195.91.85:51689/80 shrinks window 1988585330:1988587118. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3249572.528009] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 94.195.91.85:51689/80 shrinks window 1988585330:1988587118. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3325037.976009] TCP: Treason uncloaked! Peer 94.194.101.91:52517/80 shrinks window 4261299740:4261302660. Repaired.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3588274.983534] possible SYN flooding on port 80. Sending cookies.
[08:16] <canadaeh> fosa: if u have more then 2gb of ram go 64bit.
[08:16] <syn-ack> wow, this is a fast moving channel
[08:16] <FloodBot3> JediMaster: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:16] <JediMaster> [3705951.315428] EXT3-fs error (device sda1): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #10101430: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=59125094, rec_len=41821, name_len=78
[08:16] <paulo> im working on eclipse and threw a too many open files error hoew do i fix that
[08:16] <fosa> iced-tea isn't working
[08:16] <jaime1> indus: ok so i skip that step, then where do i go?
[08:16] <fosa> canadaeh, i'm at 3gb, but where is the option to choose the proc speed?
[08:17] <Slart> paulo: there are no limits set in /etc/security/limits.conf .. perhaps somewhere else..
[08:17] <JediMaster> oops, right paste, thought I had 1 line
[08:17] <kr3wie> ﻿well it's like imbarresing. Installed ubuntu this weekend so I'm really new with the OS, I just can't understand How to install this stuff:﻿$ gzip -d -c bchunk-1.2.0.tar.gz | tar xvf - $ cd bchunk-1.2.0 $ make # make install. I understand that i should use the terminal, but... argh how does this work O_O
[08:17] <JediMaster> sorry =(
[08:17] <syn-ack> fosa: /proc/
[08:17] <paulo> they are all commented
[08:17] <indus> jaime1: do the 4th step sudo mkdir /old/home
[08:17] <paulo> with #
[08:17] <JediMaster> this was the relevant line: EXT3-fs error (device sda1): htree_dirblock_to_tree: bad entry in directory #10101430: rec_len % 4 != 0 - offset=0, inode=59125094, rec_len=41821, name_len=78
[08:17] <jussi01> kr3wie: what are you trying to install?
[08:17] <jaime1> indus:  i get cannot create directory /old/home file exists
[08:18] <jaime1> indus: it's there
[08:18] <cheaba> anyone up
[08:18] <cah_batang> halo ndez
[08:18] <indus> jaime1: ok np that means you created it also. can you chck whats in it?
[08:18] <paulo> Slart: is there another configuration file i need to modify
[08:18] <cheaba> hi people
[08:18] <indus> jaime1: cd /old/home then do a 'ls'
[08:18] <cheaba> anyone on server
[08:19] <jaime1> indus: ok gimme one sec. want me to do an LS?
[08:19] <indus> jaime1: god iam tired :)
[08:19] <indus> jaime1: ls
[08:19] <indus> small letters
[08:19] <Slart> paulo: oh.. ulimit lists it as 1024 on my jaunty box.. can't you set it using ulimit?
[08:19] <Anirban1987> While installing Ubuntu server to work as a VPS for a web hosting company which type of server setup should I choose ? (Virtual Host Server / DNS server / LAMP server ) ???
[08:19] <jaime1> indus: yeah me too, sorry for all of this, i know how to mess around in linux, install etc, but i am no good at partitions
[08:19] <mbostwick> hello I am on ubuntu and I installed kde through apt-get but for some reasons when Im in kde 4 things start to disapear and I have to log out and log back in, anyone heard of this before ?
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: anyways does ls show something
[08:20] <Slart> paulo: this looks promising http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=638597
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: its an empty folder i believe
[08:20] <paulo> Slart: ok i'll try
[08:20] <jaime1> indus: yeah i put ls but nothing comes out so yeah its empty
[08:20] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: lamp if for apache and mysql
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: now this sudo cp /old/etc/fstab /old/etc/fstab_backup
[08:20] <detach->  hey anybody here got that crap e-mail from zenoss-jobs mailling list?
[08:20] <indus> jaime1: then this step gksudo gedit /old/etc/fstab
[08:21] <jaime1> indus: ok
[08:21] <cheaba> is there a ubuntu 9.04 server  channal
[08:21] <indus> jaime1: now this gksudo gedit /old/etc/fstab
[08:21] <canadaeh> Anirban1987:
[08:21] <canadaeh> When you reach the stage of selecting a Package Task, only select OpenSSH server. Do not select LAMP server nor Mail server. We will do those manually later, in order to control exactly what gets installed.
[08:21] <indus> jaime1: then add this line in --- /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[08:21] <jaime1> indus: yeah i went to the fstab static file system information
[08:22] <kr3wie> ﻿ jussi01: I'm tryin to installbchunk
[08:22] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : And what is virtual host server in 8.10 ?
[08:22] <mrp> cheaba: #ubuntu-server
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: use correct device name /dev/sd* whatever
[08:22] <jaime1> indus: ok i'm right at the gksudo gedit part
[08:22] <fosa> ahhh yeah... i'm on 64bit ubuntu..
[08:22] <canadaeh> you using 8.10?
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: in his example its sda3 but whats your new home? is it sda3?
[08:22] <cheaba> vmc
[08:22] <indus> jaime1: this is most important
[08:22] <fosa> canadaeh, yeah
[08:22] <jaime1> indus: ok it is sda3 also
[08:23] <jussi01> kr3wie: open synaptic package manager, search for bchunk and click install :)
[08:23] <indus> jaime1: ok then add it then reboot
[08:23] <paulo> Slart: i type ulimit in my box it says its unlimited i'll try looking at eclipse for help
[08:23] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: at first you said VPS
[08:23] <indus> jaime1: save the fstab file :) dont forget , then reboot
[08:23] <Slart> paulo: try ulimit -a
[08:23] <jaime1> indus: well i did that gksudo gedit part it gave me this http://paste.ubuntu.com/198297/
[08:23] <jaime1> indus: where would i add that?
[08:23] <adam> Hi, How do you get flash to work in firefox properly ( i installed the plug-in - swfdec but while it plays most things flash applets like the myspace player won't work.
[08:24] <jaime1> indus: that's the part i'm at.
[08:24] <paulo> ohh so that it
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: yes its correct , at the end of the file add the line i said
[08:24] <paulo> thanks
[08:24] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: http://2bits.com/articles/installing-a-dedicated-server-or-a-vps-with-ubuntu-server-804-lts-hardy-heron-drupal-6x.html
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: after that line no 11
[08:24] <cheaba> whats the best irc packet
[08:24] <indus> jaime1: /dev/sda3 /home ext3 nodev,nosuid 0 2
[08:25] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : yeah.... for VPS web hosting while setting up the server to resell it to several clients for shared hosting is LAMP server enough ? And can u give me a web link what each of those server means in Ubuntu 8.10 interface ?
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: cool?
[08:25] <fosa> is it ok to use the linux-amd64 rpm java installation even if i'm on core2?
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: ok i need a smoke 5 min
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: you reboot and check
[08:25] <jaime1> indus:  ok so at the bottom of the fstab (old/etc) i add /dev/sda3 /home thing?
[08:25] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: http://www.ubuntugeek.com/a2hosting-ubuntu-virtual-private-server-vps-setup.html
[08:25] <indus> jaime1: yes
[08:26] <jaime1> indus: ok thanks for your help
[08:26] <indus> jaime1: done?
[08:26] <indus> jaime1: reboot ............
[08:26] <canadaeh> I've only used a LAMP server for personal
[08:27] <Anirban1987> canadaeh : So what is recommended for me ?
[08:27] <Odameyer> RAWR
[08:27] <PsyCl0ne> Morning all, could someone help me get my Lexmark X5690 setup please.
[08:27] <jaime1> indus: yeah i am
[08:28] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: go to lexmarks website and look for linux drivers
[08:28] <hugo> join #ubuntu
[08:28] <hugo> #join Ubuntu
[08:28] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: its going to use a lamp stack but i dont know what those other two you were asking baout
[08:28] <ectospasm> hugo: /join #ubuntu
[08:28] <chance> Is there a way to keep my netbooks evolution calander synced with my home PC and IPhone 3gs?
[08:28] <hugo> lol thanks
[08:28] <hugo> i haven't IRC'd in a while
[08:29] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Ok, thanks Ill give it a look
[08:29] <hugo> hey does anyone understand encryption over the web?
[08:29] <hugo> I don't\
[08:29] <indus> hugo:neither do i :P
[08:29] <canadaeh> Anirban1987: When you reach the stage of selecting a Package Task, only select OpenSSH server. Do not select LAMP server nor Mail server. We will do those manually later, in order to control exactly what gets installed.
[08:29] <ectospasm> hugo: google SSL
[08:30] <canadaeh> says only select openssh and u set up the lamp later
[08:30] <Anirban1987> How can I upgrade my Ubuntu 8.10 server ed. x86 to Ubuntu 9.04 server ed. without reinstalling the OS from scratch ?
[08:30] <hugo> i'm looking on how stuff works I am having trouble understanding how a key is passed securely
[08:30] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Sorry to bother you, but there are only Windows and Mac drivers available off of the lexmark website
[08:30] <ectospasm> Anirban1987: aptitude update && aptitude -y dist-upgrade
[08:30] <hugo> The sending computer encrypts the document with a symmetric key, then encrypts the symmetric key with the public key of the receiving computer. The receiving computer uses its private key to decode the symmetric key. It then uses the symmetric key to decode the document.
[08:30] <mobi-sheep> !upgrade
[08:30] <Slart> !upgrade | Anirban1987
[08:30] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: then I have no idea what to do :/
[08:30] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: then I have no idea what to do :/
[08:31] <Odameyer> whoops
[08:31] <FloodBot3> Odameyer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[08:31] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo its part of the public-key encryption model..Also known as Diffie-Helman
[08:31] <PsyCl0ne> Odameyer: Ok, thanks for your help
[08:31] <hugo> yes but how is the key transferred securely
[08:31] <Slart> ectospasm: is aptitude dist-upgrade different from apt-get dist-upgrade?
[08:31] <Odameyer> PsyCl0ne: no problem man, sorry I couldn't find em for you
[08:31] <paulo> Slart: thanks worked like acharm
[08:31] <paulo> HEHEHEHE
[08:31] <hugo> if the key is encrypted with a public key that everyone knows couldn't it be decrypted by anyone?
[08:31] <ectospasm> Slart: no
[08:31] <Slart> ectospasm: or it's the -y ?
[08:31] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo no key is transferred unencrypted
[08:32] <Slart> paulo: ah.. good
[08:32] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo no.  Just knowing the public key does one no good
[08:32] <ectospasm> Slart: -y just says yes to all questions.
[08:32] <peacewise> i have inserted a live cd of ubuntu ... and how do i start gui from command line interface
[08:32] <hugo> then couldn't it be intercepted by anyone and any further transmission decrypted?
[08:32] <Slart> ectospasm: because dist-upgrade will not upgrade to jaunty from 8.10
[08:32] <canadaeh> is the discussion about gpg??
[08:32] <Slart> ectospasm: it just upgrades the current version
[08:32] <ectospasm> hugo: you need the private key to decrypt something encrypted with the public key
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> canadaeh ssl actually, but the principle is the same
[08:33] <hugo> how is the private key transmitted?
[08:33] <ectospasm> Slart: it doesn't?  That's news to me.
[08:33] <canadaeh> gpg encryption owns.. loves gmails gpg support..
[08:33] <peacewise> i have inserted a live cd of ubuntu ... and how do i start gui from command line interface
[08:33] <ectospasm> Slart: you may need to update sources.list first, then update, then dist-upgrade
[08:33] <Anirban1987> How much data transfer the upgrade takes in MB ?
[08:33] <Slart> ectospasm: been using debian? =)
[08:33] <Decepticon> what is the process of adding a new user for immediate use in pptpd. I tried editing /etc/ppp/chap-secrets and restarting pptpd, but it didn't seem to work
[08:33] <Decepticon> vpn
[08:33] <FeasibilityStudy> hugo but this is off-topic so u will want to take it to #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:34] <hugo> ok
[08:34] <ectospasm> Slart: yes
[08:34] <Slart> ectospasm: upgrade only updates already installed packages.. dist-upgrade will also install new dependencies and such.. it won't change the sources file to point to new repos etc
[08:34] <ectospasm> Slart: you'll have to do that manually
[08:34] <Slart> ectospasm: ubuntu has some special scripts for upgrading.. it's explained in the !upgrade factoid
[08:35] <n0gear2> !update
[08:35] <ectospasm> Slart: OK, so why are you still asking me questions if you know the answers?
[08:35] <stealth-> anyone know why I cant delete this file, even as root?
[08:35] <stealth-> dr-x------   2 stealth stealth      0 2009-06-17 21:18 .gvfs
[08:35] <ectospasm> stealth-: it's not writable
[08:35] <Anirban1987> How much file size the upgrade is ?
[08:35] <Slart> ectospasm: since you're giving advice that doesn't work for ubuntu
[08:35] <stealth-> ectospasm: oh, I didnt know things had to be writable to be deletable.
[08:35] <ectospasm> Slart: that worked the last time I did a dist-upgrade
[08:35] <stealth-> ectospasm: thanks
[08:36] <ectospasm> But that was obviously long ago
[08:36] <Slart> ectospasm: I doubt it did with ubuntu.. unless it was a very old version.. but nevermind
[08:36] <ectospasm> Slart: whatever
[08:36] <unop> stealth-, that directory .gvfs is one you can't delete, it's special
[08:37] <Anirban1987> How much size the upgrade download is from 8.10 to 9.04 (server edition)
[08:37] <mike> Ohaithur
[08:37] <stealth-> unop: any reason why it would be on my account, but not doing anything?
[08:37] <stealth-> unop: I know what it is
[08:38] <cyberghoser1> Good morning to all
[08:38] <unop> stealth-, every gnome user on the system would have that directory in their homedirectory
[08:39] <stealth-> unop: ah, okay. Rsync was trying to delete it for some reason :S Thanks for clearing that up
[08:39] <Serpardum> in windows torrent files i"m used to downloading slow like 150Kbs.  I'm downloading a vista repair cd in KTorrent, and am getting 561Kb/s basically my top dl speed.  I wonder why ktorrent is so much faster?  Or are the people hosting the file faster?
[08:39] <stealth-> Serpardum: it is most likely related to the ammount of people hosting the file
[08:39] <Slart> Serpardum: it's probably the people hosting the file
[08:40] <digdeep> hi: can I select text, copy and paste in CLI (without mouse support)
[08:40] <kr3wie> okay, now i've installed bchunk (I guess) how should i do to make a cue and bin file to a iso
[08:40] <Slart> Serpardum: there's no real reason for windows to differ in torrent speed compared to linux.. unless you've haven't configured it correctly.. or you're using a lousy client in one  of the os's
[08:40] <Serpardum> Is there a free virus checker for (k)ubuntu
[08:40] <om26er> Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.6' but version of libdrm is 2.4.5
[08:41] <Jacka_zulu>  /server 64.32.14.169
[08:41] <om26er> plz help
[08:41] <Slart> kr3wie: man bchunk will get you some instructions.. it's basically "bchunk blabla.cue blabla.bin blabla" .. it will create blabla.iso
[08:41] <om26er> how to update
[08:41] <Slart> !av | Serpardum
[08:42] <Slart> Serpardum: bah.. that wasn't the one I was looking for.. there is one called clamav.. I think the client is called clamtk
[08:42] <kr3wie> Slart: yeah, but like where should i put the files before doing this and where will the isofile end up ?;o
[08:42] <om26er> plz tell me how to update libdrm
[08:42] <Serpardum> ubottu: I once installed Debian on a machine at work.  Then took the Cd and installed it at home.  In the morning my home compouter was rootkitted.  I went to work, it was also rootkitted
[08:42] <Serpardum> er, not debian
[08:42] <Serpardum> what was it...
[08:42] <kr3wie> I've tried writing in the console like bchunk POSTAL 2.bin POSTAL 2.cue postal.iso but like, what happends next?
[08:42] <Serpardum> dont' remember which one
[08:43] <Serpardum> one I bought a CD from a store
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: it will end up in the current directory.. but you can specify that if you want   "bchunk /some/weird/folder/blabla.cue /some/weird/folder/blabla.bin /somewhere/else/mynewiso"
[08:43] <Animagladius> So... I just finished updating to 9.04. It worked fine the first two boots. Really. But now I get this weird error message. Starting up... Loading, please wait... | 19+0 records in | 19+0 records out | kinit: name_to_dev_t(/dev/disk/by-uuid/eaf4ee35-b0b0-41e1-a7755aedec7e8ede) = dev(8,3) | kinit: trying to resume from /dev/disk/by-uuid/eaf4ee35-b0b0-41e1-a775-a775-5aedec7e8ede | kinit: No resume image, doing normal boot... | Ubu
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: I think it adds the extension .iso automatically
[08:43] <cyberghoser1> what is the best backup method ? remastersys or omething else?
[08:43] <Slart> kr3wie: but check the man page.. I might have gotten the order of the parameters wrong or something
[08:44] <Animagladius> I don't get into the GUI, so I'm on the console now (with IRC), therefore I can't copy/paste nything.
[08:44] <Animagladius> +a
[08:44] <Slart> cyberghoser1: "best" would depend on what you want to do with the backup
[08:44] <Slart> !backup | cyberghoser1
[08:44] <waters> hi .. anyone got some time to help with a new install .. everytime i try i get the blue screen of death ... only get half way in when i use the safe graphics mode ... any idea?
[08:44] <Serpardum> So, ubottu, every time someone says "viruses don't exist in linux" I politly nod and know different
[08:44] <xhema_> anyone want to travel and speak at an open source conference on august 29/30?
[08:45] <Serpardum> Given, this was in the 90's
[08:45] <Serpardum> but still
[08:45] <cyberghoser1> well id like to completely backup my system like it is, but i want to know if something can compress the final iso highly
[08:45] <Animagladius> Anyone? Please :(
[08:45] <peacewise> how do we start GNOME from character line interface?
[08:45] <Slart> Serpardum: there are linux viruses now? I thought rootkits and such were the big problems
[08:45] <defrysk> kr3wie, just do cdrdao write blah.cue and it writs straight to cd (missed the thread tho so not sure if this is the thing you want)
[08:45] <adam> Isn't it start x
[08:45] <Slart> peacewise: we type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[08:46] <Serpardum> Mine was rootkitted by some type of virus, because my computer I found was trying to infect others
[08:46] <Serpardum> which is a virus
[08:46] <Serpardum> but, again, that was in the 90's
[08:46] <om26er> plz help me
[08:46] <om26er> tell me how to update libdrm version
[08:46] <Slart> Serpardum: might have been a trojan or rootkit.. I think most references only mention one experimental virus for linux.. there's still malware out there though
[08:46] <waters> How do i install ubuntu 9.04 with out a gui?
[08:47] <Animagladius> Hm k, I'll try it again on myself... Thanks anyway.
[08:47] <Slart> !alternate | waters
[08:47] <Serpardum> slart: My computer was trying to infect others.
[08:47] <Serpardum> and if it was a trojan it was on the install CD
[08:47] <xikitin> cisco
[08:47] <om26er> ?
[08:47] <cisco> #hachisvertas
[08:47] <peacewise> how do i install ubuntu 8.10 with a GUI
[08:47] <peacewise> ?
[08:47] <waters> k . thanks
[08:47] <cisco> xikitinnn!!!
[08:47] <adam> Serpardum: There are virus' for Linux there's no doubt, but the chances of getting infected and extremely slim compared to Windows.
[08:47] <cyberghoser1> !cloning
[08:47] <kr3wie> hm okay then like b﻿chunk /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/POSTAL 2.cue /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/POSTAL 2.bin /home/kr3wie/Skrivbord/postal.ISO
[08:47] <Serpardum> Now I always use a router anyway, so it's even slimmer
[08:47] <Serpardum> for me
[08:48] <Slart> Serpardum: oh.. sounds like a virus alright
[08:48] <kr3wie> but... i dont get any new file -.-
[08:48] <Serpardum> a router works as a good firewall I've found if configured correctly
[08:48] <Slart> kr3wie:  Postal\ 2.cue .. you have to "escape" the space
[08:48] <adam> To a certain extent.
[08:48] <om26er> how to update libdrm plz
[08:48] <defrysk> kr3wie, do you want to writ a cue bin file to a cd ?
[08:48] <Serpardum> Back then I had gone to the linux community and said, hey, whats with this virus?  And they all said, "oh, you have to configure things right"
[08:49] <Slart> Serpardum: sounds like the community we all know and love =)
[08:49] <Serpardum> it's seemed to have matured a lot since then
[08:49] <Serpardum> most of these questions people are asking here back then would of been answerd with "rtfm"
[08:50] <Slart> Serpardum: I think they might still be answered like that in certain channels
[08:50] <peacewise> Start .. how do i switch frm Command line interface to GUI in ubuntu 8.10 live cd
[08:50] <peacewise> ?
[08:50] <Slart> Serpardum: but this is getting offtopic
[08:51] <Slart> peacewise: hmm.. what happens when you boot the live cd? you get some kind of error?
[08:52] <peacewise> Slart :No error.// it directly goes into command interface... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start .. it displays "Starting GNOME display manager".. but nothing happens...
[08:53] <jaime1> hello. i made a new /home and everything seemed to be going good. but when i rebooted and started i got your directory /home/jaime does not seem to exist.do u want to use /root as a directory? can someone help me because i was sure i did everything correct
[08:53] <jaime1> the /root was my old /home or directory
[08:53] <Draglor> IS there a way to run a comman as another user (my usual login, not root) at bootup time? I tried "su $USER -c $COMMAND" but thats not executed at startup. I get the message "su has to be run from a terminal"
[08:54] <Draglor> jaime1: Whats the content of the "/root" ?
[08:54] <unop> Draglor,  in /etc/rc.local - add a line like   sudo -u user command
[08:54] <beli> Draglor: man sudo
[08:54] <jaime1> draglor: that was my old /home right now nothing
[08:54] <kr3wie> wts up now... It says Reading the CUE file: ... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after INDEX.
[08:54] <unop> jaime1,  what are the permissions of /home/jaime ?
[08:55] <jaime1> unop: well i'm on the live CD, and the /home/jaime was the new /home i created. the permission right now are default i guess
[08:55] <unop> jaime1,  ls -ld /home/jaime
[08:55] <Slart> peacewise: not really sure what to do with that.. sorry
[08:56] <Draglor> ah ok thx unop I'm coming from antoher distro where I used to use the "su $USER" instead of "sudo -u" ... can anyone tell me which setting this is for "su" that makes this behaviour? My script worked on other distros but not on ubuntu (as many others as well)
[08:57] <jaime1> unop: i get cannot access /hom/jaime no such file or directory. but the new home was just /home. the only time i ever saw /home/jaime was when i logged back in.
[08:57] <unop> Draglor, su should work .. maybe it's the context in which you run this script that matters. so, how are you running this script?
[08:57] <Draglor> it's run by rc.local
[08:57] <peacewise> Slart :No error.// it directly goes into command interface... when i type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start .. it displays "Starting GNOME display manager".. but nothing happens...
[08:57] <waters> ok ... problem .. i just put in the live ubuntu disk .. i see the hd light blinking .. i hear the music of it starting up ... but all i see is a blue screen ...
[08:57] <Draglor> It worked in gentoo/sabayon/opensuse and fedora *g*
[08:58] <unop> Draglor, strange .. whats the exact command?
[08:58] <beli> Draglor: its because of security....and using sudo to execute ONE command is correct
[08:58] <unop> jaime1,  what is the output of    grep "^jaime" /etc/passwd
[08:58] <beli> Draglor: you did sth. that noone wants to use...even if it worked for you
[08:58] <unop> ?
[08:58] <jaime1> unop:  ls -ld /root
[08:58] <waters> this is the same problem i have if i try to install
[08:58] <jaime1> unop: sorry meant to type that in the terminal
[08:59] <Draglor> beli ... I have heard nearly 200 opinions about su and sudo ... sorry when I don't belive your opinion.
[08:59] <beli> waters: for how long did you wait after getting the blue background?
[08:59] <waters> still waiting
[08:59] <waters> ;o)
[08:59] <beli> Draglor: you dont have to....but at least start reading the manuals before you try stuff...
[08:59] <jaime1> unop: there is a /home but not a /home/jaime
[08:59] <Draglor> the command is "su draglor -c "/usr/bin/touch /home/draglor/testfile"" (atm for testing)
[09:00] <Draglor> beli lol
[09:00] <waters> beli: .. I've waiting for a few hours at one time .. or another ... right now .. 5 min's
[09:00] <Draglor> I can start it manually, but it's not executed on startup.
[09:01] <beli> waters....make it start in non graphical mode and see what is happening
[09:01] <waters> how would i do that?
[09:01] <jaime1> unop:  the output is /bin/grep:input/output error
[09:01] <beli> waters: google....there are so called boot time options
[09:01] <fosa> how are firefox plugins disabled?  For example, disabling or removing icedtea ?
[09:02] <beli> waters: also try ctrl+alt+f1  f2 .... f7   maybe you can use a console that way and check the logs
[09:02] <waters> yeah .. i can get into a console
[09:02] <unop> Draglor, that looks alright to me .. maybe su does require a terminal to run, is there nothing mentioned in the manpage?
[09:02] <kevin__> fosa: how is iced-tea treatin ya?
[09:02] <fosa> kevin__, awful
[09:03] <fosa> kevin__, but it's probably some kind of issue with ubuntu64
[09:03] <unop> jaime1, hmm .. you running that command within the live CD right?
[09:03] <jaime1> unop: yes i am.
[09:03] <Draglor> I haven't found anything yet unop ... the annoying thing is, that this works in other distros and I don't know why
[09:04]  * beli shrugs
[09:04] <unop> Draglor, ubuntu has done a few things to su and sudo that other distros havent
[09:04] <Draglor> But I'll try "sudo -u" maybe it has something to do with the sudoers settings in ubuntu (if I do a )
[09:04] <gregorah> Ok, I've been trying to figure this out for days. The webcam on my eee 1000he isn't working. there is no /dev/video* and Cheese/Ekiga/Skype doesn't find a webcam. The green light never turns on.
[09:04] <gregorah> I'm 95% confident the webcam is enabled in the BIOS
[09:04] <beli> Draglor: ubuntu is using different security, why not use what you are told? use sudo...thats what its ment for WITH ubuntu
[09:04] <DrS> Hi, i Found bug  where report  a bug ?
[09:04] <Draglor> unop: I know ... well they have some other settings, no other sudo ... and some others distros have them as well
[09:04] <ActiveFrost> does anybody know why ping -f does not show anything else except 2 dots on the next line ?
[09:05] <Draglor> beli: ment by you!
[09:05] <waters> drm? ..
[09:05] <beli> Draglor: no not by me....ask all others here
[09:05] <beli> sudo is for executing stuff as other user on ubuntu
[09:05] <Draglor> and why do i have su?
[09:05] <unop> beli, su works too - atleast it does for me
[09:06] <jaime1> unop: yeah well i'm trying to view the fstab...
[09:06] <beli> unop: shouldnt on a fresh install...maybe you altered configuration
[09:06] <Draglor> and beli? you are able to read? so what do you think should my post "But I'll try "sudo -u"" mean?
[09:06] <unop> jaime1,  mount the volume that has ubuntu installed .. and view the etc/passwd file - look for the line that has your username
[09:06] <beli> Draglor: i told you to read the manual    man sudo
[09:07] <DrS> Where i can report a bug ?
[09:07] <beli> Draglor: so dont tell me that i am not able to read
[09:07] <beli> ignored
[09:07] <Draglor> I did ..
[09:07] <kr3wie> Reading the CUE file:... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after index number.... ouch, no space after INDEX.
[09:07] <om26er> can any1 give me libdrm 2.4.6.deb
[09:07] <om26er> plz
[09:07] <kr3wie> get that errormes when trin to make an iso
[09:07] <kr3wie> whats wrong
[09:07] <unop> Draglor, beli - let this pass now .. enough aleady
[09:07] <Draglor> DrS: A bug for which app?
[09:07] <Draglor> unop: I'm ignoring him ;)
[09:07] <Draglor> So it's over
[09:08] <beli> unop: i ignored him...i hate it to be flamed while trying to help
[09:08] <waters> ok ... drm:i915_get_vblank_counter *ERROR* trying to get vblank counfor disabled pipe 1
[09:08] <jaime1> unop: so then i'll mount $sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2 /mnt/old?
[09:08] <om26er> help me
[09:08] <gregorah> I'm running Ubuntu NBR
[09:08] <DrS> why i can't  install any .deb files on  Koala Alpha 2 ? : http://img269.imageshack.us/img269/7131/bugevw.png
[09:08] <unop> jaime1, that should work .. assuming /dev/sda2 is your partition and /mnt/old exists
[09:08] <ziroday> DrS: ask in #ubuntu+1
[09:09] <jaime1> unop: yeah /dev/sda2 is the ubuntu partition. /old doesn't exist but /root does. that was were all of my files were saved. i just pasted the text from the site i'm using
[09:09] <Serpardum> I'm trying to burn an iso to CD.  I put a blank CD in I don't see anything in dolphin showing it.   I right click the .iso and "burn cd image with k3b".  kbe opens up, burn medium is "Empty CD-R medium" and only one in list.  How do I get kubuntu to recognize my DVD/CD burner?
[09:09] <kraut> moin
[09:10] <Draglor> DrS: Try installing them in a commandline (dpkg -i debfile)
[09:10] <ziroday> Serpardum: that is the blank CD
[09:10]  * Serpardum slaps his forehead
[09:10] <Serpardum> thanks
[09:10] <unop> jaime1,  first let's have a look at the home directory configured for your user ..
[09:10] <ziroday> Draglor: we do not support development versions of ubuntu here, that and dpkg -i wont work.
[09:10] <beli> Serpardum: it does...the blank cd is detected bye ubuntu from your rw drive
[09:10] <ziroday> Serpardum: have fun
[09:11] <jaime1> unop: alright how do i do that?
[09:11] <Serpardum> I thought it mean the cd drive was blank. heh
[09:11] <Serpardum> it's burning now. thanks
[09:11] <Draglor> ziroday: nice behaviour ..
[09:11] <DrS> Draglor : cant install ..
[09:11] <waters> ok .. can i install from the command line of a live cd?
[09:11] <ziroday> Draglor: ?
[09:12] <ziroday> waters: yep, you can install anything you want as long as it does not require a restart
[09:13] <waters> what is the command to install ubuntu from the command line of the live cd?
[09:13] <unop> jaime1, you need the line from etc/passwd on the mounted volume that has your username (i.e. jaime)
[09:13] <syn-ack> DrS: you're running a piece of Alpha software... that wont get any support in here since its more or less "broken" right now and you have to do weird stuff to get things to work."
[09:13] <ziroday> waters: ubiquity
[09:13] <jaime1> unop: yeah the volume that has my username is /dev/sda2. so then i mount it?
[09:14] <waters> cannot open display ..
[09:14] <unop> jaime1, yes please
[09:14] <ziroday> waters: the livecd has no command line installer. You need to use the alternate cd.
[09:14] <waters> k
[09:14] <waters> just got done with the d/l ...
[09:14] <unop> jaime1, mount the volume .. then open the etc/passwd file, then look for the line that has your username .. copy and paste here.
[09:15] <beli> waters: but íf your live ubuntu fails...you should first try to fix the problems
[09:15] <waters> it's a xconf problem
[09:15] <beli> waters: yes and this Xorg problem will also be there after using the installer and booting from your harddrive
[09:16] <indus> jaime1: hi what seems to be the problem now
[09:16] <waters> ok ..
[09:16] <beli> waters: so better try to find the source of the problem first
[09:16] <jaime1> unop: ok yeah well the mount i know is sudo mount -t ext3 /dev/sda2?
[09:16] <jaime1> indus: hey well i mean it's the same thing, it's not recognizing the /home
[09:16] <unop> jaime1,  yea, use that
[09:16] <indus> jaime1: what is the error now
[09:16] <ziroday> beli: or he can install and have a system that is a lot more flexible to use then the livecd and we can diagnose the issue then. It doesn't make any difference really.
[09:17] <unop> indus, let him do what i asked him first please ..
[09:17] <indus> unop: ok sure go ahead
[09:17] <jaime1> indus: once i got into the regular one it said direcotry /home/jaime may not exist. do you want to use /root as directory. then i got could not update ICE authority file, then problem with config. server
[09:17] <beli> ziroday: ok thats true, but i would try to look what is happening first....maybe some real unsupported hardware is used on his box, but ok....lets give it a try ;)
[09:17] <jaime1> unop: ok give me one sec
[09:18] <indus> jaime1: its the error mentioned in last part of tutorial
[09:18] <pngll> I'm looking for an extraction software that auto-detects compression and chmods the files correctly. I found one a month ago, delayed its installation, and now I am incapable of finding it again. It claimed to a cl, open source equivalent of stuffit expander.
[09:18] <beli> pngll: hmm, try to search for it at freshmeat.net or sourceforge.net
[09:19] <jaime1> unop: ok it took a while, live CD kinda slow, but it should be mounted. now you want me to do the usernm thing?
[09:19] <jaime1> indus: yes i believe so
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: I presume stuffit is just some compression software?
[09:20] <pngll> ziroday, yes
[09:20] <unop> jaime1, yea please
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: what
[09:20] <ziroday> pngll: what's wrong with lzma, or bunzip compression?
[09:20] <pngll> I just mentioned it in case it would ring a bell for anyone.
[09:20] <gregorah_> I've got a problem with the webcam on my Eee: It's not working. It's enabled in the BIOS but I don't see anything that resembles it in /dev/ and Cheese et. al. can't find it.
[09:21] <jaime1> unop: ﻿grep "^jaime" /etc/passwd. yeah it's just loading i think
[09:21] <pngll> ziroday, no, it was a decompression tool. Basically you called the-tool the-archive.ext and it automatically detected its typed, created a folder for it, decompressed the files there and chmodded them correctly.
[09:21] <unop> jaime1, that would look at /etc/passwd on the live CD - not the one on your ubuntu partition
[09:21] <jaime1> oh ok
[09:22] <unop> jaime1, instead you'll need something like.  grep "^jaime" /mnt/etc/passwd   # assuming your partition is mounted at /mnt
[09:22] <ziroday> pngll: so, similar to the Archive Manager then?
[09:23] <unop> jaime1, but it might just be easier to navigate your partition using the GUI and open the passwd file in gedit or similar.
[09:23] <pngll> ziroday, yes
[09:23] <om26er> plz plz help me
[09:23] <om26er> Requested 'libdrm >= 2.4.6' but version of libdrm is 2.4.5
[09:23] <om26er> how to update libdrm plz
[09:23] <ziroday> pngll: sorry I'm kind of confused, what exactly are you trying to do?
[09:24] <ziroday> om26er: what packaeg are you installing?
[09:24] <beli> pngll: search fm and sf....they have plenty of stuff
[09:24] <jaime1> unop:  is gedit available in the live cd?
[09:24] <WhiteScar> hello everybody
[09:24] <unop> jaime1, yes
[09:24] <ziroday> WhiteScar: Hi!
[09:24] <beli> ziroday: he is searching for a console app that when called like "decompressor foofile"  detects the compression....and extracts it to a folder
[09:24] <om26er> ziroday i m installing intel driver
[09:24] <unop> jaime1, even if it isn't you can use a load of other programs to view the file - since it's a normal text file
[09:25] <ziroday> !intel | om26er I recommend you *carefully* follow the forum guide
[09:25] <pngll> ziroday, (and beli ) I'm looking at freshmeat now.
[09:26] <jaime1> unop: yeah it's not there ok let me if its just text i think word processor should work right?
[09:26] <pngll> ziroday, looking for a tool that allows me to stop thinking about what how the file that I just downloaded was compressed.
[09:26] <unop> jaime1,  yea, that or cat, firefox, anything
[09:28] <jaime1> unop:  yeah firefox since word processor will probably take ages to load. ok so then GUI... how can i use that through firefox?
[09:28] <beli> pngll: you know 7zip? theres p7zip for linux console...try it
[09:28] <pngll> beli, haha I just landed on the p7zip page.
[09:29] <Omar871> Hi all.
[09:29] <ziroday> Omar871: Hi!
[09:30] <beli> pngll: but basically you could write a shell script to do your job.....use the "file" command and some regexp to check what the file really contains...then use bunzip, bunzip2, unrar, ... whatever to extract it ;)
[09:30] <VSpike> Is it just me or is the "Edit Location" thing on Launchpad broken?
[09:31] <Omar871> I have this small issue regarding sound. A couple of days ago I tried to switch from ALSA to OSS4, but then I switched back. For some reason, after I switched back both built-in and external speakers started to work together at the same time. How do I disable that?
[09:32] <unop> jaime1, find the file first in the file explorer .. then just double click it
[09:32] <unop> jaime1, if nothing will open it then .. right click, open with ...
[09:32] <VSpike> When I go in to edit, there's no marker.  Eventually figured out you have to double-click the map to make it appear.  But every time I place it, when I update and go back to the main profile page it reverts to Kazakhstan
[09:32] <VSpike> And I'm in the UK
[09:32] <VSpike> I have nothing against Kazakhstan of course
[09:33] <jaime1> unop:  ok
[09:33] <Decepticon> whats the correct format for putting ip addresses into /etc/ppp/chap-secrets , the fourth field called ip addresses? can it be like this: 12.130.88.0-12.130.88.255,62.32.35.32-62.32.35.127
[09:33] <yoyit2> ok so i just put OS3.0 on my phone 3G but is there a way to tether it to my jaunty?? via usb/bluetooth????
[09:33] <milligan_> what does euthanized mean ?
[09:34] <jaime1> unop: ok i think i know how to fix it. i just have to change something that looks like it was wrong in the fstab, i'll reboot and see what happens
[09:34] <VSpike> milligan_: put out of one's misery .. euphemism for being killed to prevent suffering, usually from disease.
[09:34] <hhersoy> epic -H vhost.domain -a irc.freenode.net -c \#channel1 \#channel2 -b <- is it true?
[09:35] <milligan_> ty VSpike
[09:35] <hhersoy> i need help for epic irc client
[09:35] <VSpike> milligan_: comes from greek meaning "easy death"
[09:36] <hhersoy> i cant join channel2 on -b mode epic
[09:37] <yoyit2> iphone tether jaunty
[09:37] <DrS> flash  player working but skype  isin't   ..
[09:41] <yoyit2> iphone tether jaunty
[09:42] <NS4W> DrS: in my case skype only works when i don't use another audio or video program, ie flash player, rhithmbox...
[09:42] <karthik> #join amclug
[09:42] <NS4W> i mean at the same time
[09:44] <Omar871> I have this small issue regarding sound. A couple of days ago I tried to switch from ALSA to OSS4, but then I switched back. For some reason, after I switched back both built-in and external speakers started to work together at the same time. How do I disable that?
[09:46] <ectospasm> Omar871: are you talking about the PC speaker?
[09:46] <ectospasm> You may be able to mute that in the mixer
[09:46] <beli> pngll: bloat
[09:47] <Omar871> ectospasm: Yeah, it's a laptop actually.
[09:47] <gregorah_> I've got a problem with the webcam on my Eee: It's not working. It's enabled in the BIOS but I don't see anything that resembles it in /dev/ and Cheese et. al. can't find it.
[09:47] <indus> ectospasm: so its not the pc speaker then
[09:47] <gypsymauro> hi
[09:47] <gypsymauro> I heard that next ubuntu will ship the gnome 3 testing.. what's that?
[09:47] <indus> ectospasm: internal speaker in this case is the laptop speaker
[09:47] <ectospasm> indus: yeah, I caught that.  Thanks for point it out to me again, though.
[09:47] <ectospasm> s/point/pointing/
[09:47] <indus> :) :P
[09:48] <indus> ectospasm: internal speaker is a vague term i think
[09:48] <ziroday> gypsymauro: its where there will be a package to test gnome 3 and its features.
[09:48] <indus> gregorah_: hi
[09:48] <Omar871> indus: Yeah, then what should I call it instead?
[09:48] <gregorah_> indus: heyo.
[09:48] <indus> Omar871: laptop speakers
[09:48] <indus> gregorah_: so whats the output of lspci
[09:48] <indus> lsusb
[09:48] <indus> both
[09:49] <Omar871> indus: Oh, okay. :) I will.
[09:49] <gregorah_> want me to pastebin it?
[09:49] <indus> paste i hope
[09:49] <indus> yeah
[09:50] <gypsymauro> ziroday: I got it but on gnome website there are no info about gnome3 except this :http://live.gnome.org/ThreePointZero/Plan
[09:50] <indus> !sound
[09:50] <dayo> Simple question: I am gonna do a new Ubuntu install. How do I partition my hdd such that everything in the "/usr" directory is on 1 parition, and everything else is on another?
[09:50] <gregorah_> http://pastebin.com/mc0df4f4
[09:50] <ziroday> gypsymauro: yes, that is the plan
[09:50] <dayo> ﻿Simple question: I am gonna do a new Ubuntu install. How do I partition my hdd such that everything in the "/usr" directory is on 1 parition, and everything else is on another?
[09:51] <dayo> oops sorry for spam
[09:51] <ziroday> dayo: you need to use the manual partition option, create one partition as /usr and another as /
[09:51] <indus> gregorah_: which one is ur webcam btw, i cant see it
[09:51] <ectospasm> dayo: what's the point of that?  I would think /home would make more sense as its own partition.
[09:52] <indus> dayo: very easy dayo, specify a separate /usr thats  all
[09:52] <gregorah_> indus: I'm not sure that any of them are, tbh.
[09:52] <dayo> ecto: Actually, yes it will be /home on another paritition
[09:52] <indus> gregorah_: whats the model number of laptop
[09:52] <gregorah_> Eee 1000HE
[09:52] <dayo> indus and ziro: Oh, so this is something I can do DURING Ubuntu's installtion? its not something done later ?
[09:52] <Omar871> indus: so how do I solve this? :)
[09:52] <ectospasm> dayo: yes, during installation
[09:52] <dayo> ecto: Thanks
[09:53] <ectospasm> dayo: it's possible to do it after installation, but it's really not worth the hassle
[09:53] <dayo> ecto: I agree
[09:53] <ectospasm> PPPPP principle, and all
[09:55] <indus> dayo: yes
[09:55] <Omar871> indus: How do I seperate them?
[09:55] <indus> Omar871: so laptop speakers and external speakers both make noise?
[09:55] <indus> Omar871: how have you conected the external speajer
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: Not the noise issue. They work together.
[09:56] <indus> Omar871: ya thats what i meant by noise
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: I simply connected to to the speaker slot.
[09:56] <gregorah_> indus: any ideas? Should I break out the hammer?
[09:56] <arooni-mobile___> looking for a google calendar widget that sits on my desktop or is accessible via say screenlets?
[09:56] <indus> gregorah_: which model is this laptop
[09:56] <Omar871> indus: They weren't like that before I tried to switch.
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: Asus Eee 1000 HE
[09:57] <indus> gregorah_: and which is the webcam
[09:57] <indus> gregorah_: you said its detected in the bios?
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: I'm not sure if any of them are.
[09:57] <gregorah_> indus: It's listed in the BIOS.
[09:58] <indus> gregorah_: as what
[09:58] <Harag> Morning
[09:59] <gregorah_> It's listed as "Onboard Camera [Enabled]"
[10:00] <Harag> On a default Ubuntu server 9.04 install is port 80 disabled/locked and how do I enable it? And no there is no apache and I dont want to run apache.
[10:00] <gregorah_> indus: It's listed as "Onboard Camera [Enabled]"
[10:00] <_vm158> hi. can you tell, where i can find documentation about ubuntu. not faq. i need docs, how it works from "/sbin/init" to desktop? thanks...
[10:00] <indus> gregorah_: ok wiat
[10:00] <indus> wait
[10:00] <Flannel> _vm158: help.ubuntu.com
[10:01] <indus> gregorah_: have you tried ekiga or skype to check webcam?
[10:01] <indus> gregorah_: what does cheese tell u
[10:01] <Flannel> Harag: No.  It's not locked.  You don't want to run apache, but you want to do something on port 80? what are you hoping to use port 80 for?
[10:01] <gregorah_> indus: yep. They don't detect any devices. There's nothing. Nothing at /dev/video* either.
[10:02] <Mavs> hi there, does "jack retsking" works on ubuntu as it does in windows?
[10:02] <clepto> anyone know if they are going to update the version of kismet in the repository to the current version soon or not?
[10:02] <Harag> Flannel: Running a lisp webserver...the server runs fine on 8080 but if I try to get the server to bind to port 80 then I get permission denied...and theserver is run by root
[10:02] <indus> gregorah_: which version of ubuntu u using?
[10:02] <Flannel> Harag: Is something already listening on port 80? (netstat -a)?
[10:03] <Flannel> clepto: What's changed about the new version?
[10:03] <gregorah_> indus: Ubuntu 9.04 (jaunty) Netbook Remix.
 no, i need not to know, how to install software or codecs, i need technical info
[10:04] <Harag> Flannel: nope nothing on port 80
[10:04] <Flannel> _vm158: There's technical information in those pages.  Is there something specific we can help you find?
[10:04] <Flannel> Harag: That's odd.  Running as root should allow you to bind to port 80 no problem.
[10:04] <clepto> flannel: pretty much everything
[10:05] <Harag> Flannel: Yeah that is what I thought aswell ...but I am no linux expert
[10:05] <clepto> flannel: the ui is completely different how the server interacts with the client and  there are a whole lot of improvments all around.
 mmm... tell direct link please. i dont see...
[10:05] <gregorah_> indus: Ekiga gives me two video devices: "*.avi (PTLIB/FFMPEG)" and "Moving Logo (Moving Logo/Moving Logo)". Cheese just detects no camera.
[10:05] <Flannel> _vm158: Direct link to what?
[10:06] <indus> gregorah_: wait i check
[10:06] <_vm158> "There's technical information in those pages" what information for example?
[10:06] <Flannel> clepto: Then no, it likely won't be.  The way software works in Ubuntu is stuff is 'frozen' to the version its released with (which is actually a couple of months old), and then only bugfixes and security updates happen after the release (well, except backports, but that's a case by case basis).  To get the new one, your best course of action right now is to ping the maintainers and make sure it gets into Karmic (the next release)
[10:07] <indus> gregorah_: install the program lvcview
[10:07] <Flannel> _vm158: Technical information on what?  What are you looking for specifically?
[10:07] <clepto> flannel: that sucks... the current version that is listed is over a year old.
[10:07] <indus> gregorah_: wait
[10:08] <indus> gregorah_: lucview from synaptic
[10:09] <clepto> flannel: i installed it the old fashioned way so its not that big of a loss but figured it would be nice to have it set up to work with apt-get.
[10:09] <gregorah_> indus luvcview?
 kernel runs "/sbin/init". "/sbin/init" runs ...? what?
[10:10] <indus> gregorah_: lucview
[10:10] <Flannel> clepto: Yeah, that's just the way software works in Ubuntu.  Once it's packaged for a version, it's easy to install it on the older versions though.  So, there is some silver lining.
[10:10] <gregorah_> indus: I don't see a lucview.
[10:10] <salm0n> could anyone tell me why ubuntu refuses to open irc:// links with any irc client i choose?
[10:10] <indus> gregorah_: aah sorry luvcview
[10:11] <clepto> flannel: are there other repositories that work with ubuntu that might be more up to date?
[10:12] <eddieate> hi
[10:12] <gregorah_> indus: installed. What do I do with it?
[10:12] <Flannel> _vm158: Ubuntu uses upstart, which is different than most others, you can find technical information here: http://upstart.ubuntu.com/  Although you'll also benefit from the standard linux /sbin/init stuff, since that's still in use as well (and that's just generic linux documentation stuff)
[10:12] <Dimitree> any idea why the Demos on the blender game CD don't work with Blender 2.49 ?
[10:12] <Flannel> clepto: Not that I'm aware of for that, no.
[10:12] <indus> gregorah_: run it :) or run with it whichever :P
[10:13] <clepto> flannel: ok thanks for your help.
[10:13] <_vm158> thanks
[10:13] <Flannel> clepto: My pleasure
[10:13] <gregorah_> indus: It gives me an error: ERROR opening v4L interface: No such file or directory
[10:14] <davro> _vm158: /sbin/init reads /etc/inittab runs script defined sysinit:/etc/init.d/rcS switches to runlevel defined by initdefault: something like that ?
[10:14] <eddieate> im trying to remove some things i installed, but if i 'sudo apt-get remove' them it just says 'Errors were encountered while processing:' what else can i do?
[10:14] <indus> gregorah_: hmmmppp
[10:14] <indus> gregorah_: ok dont know what to do now
[10:14] <gregorah_> indus: :(
[10:14] <salm0n> could anyone please tell me why ubuntu refuses to open irc:// links with any irc client i choose?
[10:15] <indus> gregorah_: oye ok  ok wait
[10:15] <indus> gregorah_: type gstreamer-properties in terminal
[10:16] <gregorah_> indus: If I mess with the default input for video, it tells me that /dev/video0 doesn't exist.
[10:17] <mmm4m5m> Hi. I have one feature request (I do not know how to report it) - start Firefox, switch to "cyrilic". I want to be able to write in "english" inside address bar and "cyrilic" inside the browser. Will be nice feature.
[10:17] <Mavs> hi there, does "jack retasking" works on ubuntu as it does in windows?
[10:17] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Firefox?
[10:17] <indus> gregorah_: hmm ok seems like a permissions issue
[10:17] <indus> gregorah_: ok wait
[10:17] <Flannel> mmm4m5m: Well, you'd probably be better off reporting that upstream (to the firefox people, not the Ubuntu people), but....
[10:17] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: xchat, irssi, pidgin
[10:17] <Flannel> !launchpad
[10:17] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I think you're looking for Applications under Firefox Preferences where you can edit IRC and such.
[10:18] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I mean your web browser -- where you click the irc:// links?
[10:18] <mmm4m5m> Flannel: thanks, will try :)
[10:18] <gregorah_> indus: Doesn't seem to be a permissions issue: There's no /dev/video0 at all.
[10:18] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: yes
[10:18] <indus> gregorah_: thats all just terminal crap nvm
[10:18] <Flannel> mmm4m5m: Launchpad is where you'd to suggest it to Ubuntu people.  https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/ is where you'd go to report it to mozilla people
[10:18] <spudCakePie> hey, i remenber from years back on fedora I used to press F2 to get a "run command" dialog, is there a way to do this in 9.04?
[10:18] <indus> gregorah_: type cheese in terminal
[10:18] <ziroday> spudCakePie: alt+f2
[10:18] <spudCakePie> on gnome
[10:18] <mobi-sheep> spudCakePie: ALT + F2.
[10:18] <spudCakePie> woot thanks
[10:19] <Chaps> hallo
[10:19] <mobi-sheep> spudCakePie: ALT + F1 (for Gnome Menu) ;)
[10:19] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: yes it gives me the option of what to choose to open the link then does nothing after i choose it
[10:19] <gregorah_> indus: ok
[10:19] <spudCakePie> $ cheese
[10:19] <spudCakePie> The program 'cheese' can be found in the following packages:
[10:19] <spudCakePie>  * cheese
[10:19] <spudCakePie>  * cheese-hildon
[10:19] <spudCakePie> lol
[10:19] <FloodBot3> spudCakePie: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[10:20] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: You may need to add an application other than purple-url-handler (looks like Pidgin).
[10:20] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: ive tried irssi and xchat as well
[10:21] <Chaps> We are trying to get Sophos Anti-virus to run on Ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty (Kernel Version: 2.6.28-12-generic)
[10:21] <gregorah_> indus: All I see is the test stream, there's no capture going on and there's no LED on on my webcam.
[10:21] <indus> gregorah_: any output on terminal?
[10:22] <Chaps> but when there is a new Kernel update we need to re-install sophos...this is the response from Sophos support:
[10:22] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Any help?  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=25372
[10:22] <gregorah_> indus: Error: Stream contains no data.
[10:22] <indus> gregorah_: ok
[10:22] <gregorah_> and other errors related to that.
[10:22] <gregorah_> (can't find the type of an empty stream, etc)
[10:23] <Chaps> Ubuntu compiles their Kernels with the CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA option set to Yes. There is physically no possibility for us to get Talpa working on it.
[10:23] <Chaps> So I'm afraid for the moment the only workaround available for the customer is to compile his own kernel with CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA set to No.
[10:23] <Chaps> Will this change back after a kernel update?
[10:23] <indus> gregorah_: does your bios have a start and finished option?
[10:24] <ziroday> Chaps: yes, as you are installing a kernel from the ubuntu repo's which has CONFIG_DEBUG_RODATA set to Yes
[10:24] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I would think it's trivial to set up so Firefox can open irc:// chats for XChat (or any clients) but that's just me.
[10:24] <ziroday> Chaps: you will have to recompile your own kernel again, or just not update the kernel
[10:24] <gregorah_> indus: I don't think so, but where would I check?
[10:24] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: why
[10:24] <indus> gregorah_: in bios disable adn enable webcam again
[10:24] <zhangzhengxue> hello
[10:25] <unop> salm0n, do you want to have firefox handle irc:// links?
[10:25] <indus> gregorah_: wait
[10:25] <salm0n> unop yes
[10:25] <Chaps> Thanks Ziroday
[10:25] <indus> gregorah_: in bios there is a setting for bios installation set it to finished
[10:26] <indus> gregorah_: OS installation
[10:26] <ziroday> Chaps: and you do understand that anti-viruses for linux are not necessary correct?
[10:26] <ziroday> !virus | Chaps
[10:26] <salm0n> unop well firefox gives me the option to choose any irc client to open the irc link but when i choose the programs it does nothing
[10:26] <hosamelfeky> hello all
[10:27] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Because people generally don't click on irc:// links all times and irc:// links is not often seen on the websites.
[10:27] <unop> salm0n,  open about:config .. create a new boolean called network.protocol-handler.external.irc set to true .. then create a new string called network.protocol-handler.app.irc with a value    /usr/bin/xchat -e --url=%s
[10:27] <indus> gregorah_: ok ?? go into bios and look for this , set OS Installation to finished
[10:28] <gregorah_> indus: not seeing it anywhere.
[10:28] <indus> gregorah_: shouldnt you reboot to go into bios?
[10:28] <salm0n> unop ive already tried that
[10:28] <gregorah_> indus: irssi on a different computer.
[10:28] <hosamelfeky> in body here live in egypt or korea
[10:28] <unop> salm0n,   does firefox remember those values you've set?
[10:29] <indus> gregorah_: there is an option i read so search for it
[10:29] <salm0n> unop yes
[10:29] <indus> gregorah_: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes
[10:29] <gregorah_> indus: I think that's for the 700 series?
[10:30] <indus> gregorah_: common
[10:30] <gregorah_> I don't see any bios setting like that, srsly.
[10:30] <unop> salm0n, what program are you using to handle irc:// links ?
[10:30] <hosamelfeky> i want to be afriend
[10:30] <hosamelfeky> with any one
[10:30] <salm0n> ive tried xchat, pidgin and irssi
[10:31] <davro> hosamelfeky: good luck with that !
[10:31] <indus> gregorah_: can u disable and enable the webcam again?
[10:32] <unop> salm0n, so let me get this straight .. firefox let's you setup the associations and this works so long as the programs are already running but not if they aren't ??
[10:33] <salm0n> unop no, it opens the programs when i click the irc links and choose a program but then the program just sits there and does nothing and doesn't open the links
[10:35] <unop> salm0n,  ok, you mentioned that you changed something in about:config .. did you do this before trying to associate them automatically?
[10:35] <salm0n> no
[10:35] <unop> salm0n,  are the changes you made in about:config still present?
[10:35] <salm0n> yes
[10:36] <unop> salm0n, undo them and try again .
[10:36] <salm0n> delete the string?
[10:36] <unop> salm0n, you could do that .. or change the boolean to false
[10:37] <indus> gregorah_: ? any luck?
[10:37] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Are you using xchat or xchat-gnome?
[10:37] <salm0n> xchat
[10:38] <salm0n> unop: didnt work
[10:38] <gregorah_> indus: I couldn't find anything like OS Installation mode in the BIOS, I'm trying disabling various things and restarting.
[10:39] <indus> gregorah_: g luck
[10:40] <mikk4520> Heya People. I have some trouble makeing a post-ubuntu-setup-script for a local school. Can anyone tell me the correct way to add a wireless configuration to a ubuntu 9.04 box? I have found a way edition /etc/networks/interfaces - but is it the right way to go?
[10:40] <unop> salm0n, very strange .. I used the about:config method with xchat and it works alright .. I wonder if there's something wrong with the irc:// links themselves
[10:41] <cherva> When I go to Places->Connect to Server the only service type available is a custom location ?! Is this a change in 9.04 or somethin is messed up here ?
[10:41] <unop> salm0n, can you right click on one of those links .. copy link location and paste here
[10:41] <salm0n> irc://irc.barafranca.com:6667/cartoon
[10:42] <erUSUL> mikk4520: /etc/networks/interfaces << can work another possiility is to somehow through gconf (i do not know exactly how) add the configuration to Network Manager
[10:42] <ThorB> Hey! Where al the Ubunu Guru's @!
[10:42] <gregorah_> indus: ugh, it's 6 AM. I'll do this tomorrow. Thanks for helping me out.
[10:42] <mikk4520> erUSUL, thank you. I will look into it.
[10:42] <Harlekin|Work> hi all
[10:43] <indus> gregorah_: hey ok good morning
[10:43] <indus> gregorah_: hope you solve it
[10:43] <pngll> beli, thanks!
[10:44] <ThorB>  Quick question, any of you guys know how to view the files on a Ubuntu Pc (with a cross over cable) i have ubuntu on my Netbook, but keyboard to small, and i want to rename LOST of files on my Ubuntu machine
[10:44] <ThorB> lots**
[10:44] <lorenzo> join #ubuntu-it
[10:44] <unop> salm0n, strange - the link looks alright, but firefox won't get xchat to connect to it for me
[10:45] <Harlekin|Work> i installed ubuntu 9.04 on a usb stick but it dosent save the data. i have choosen documents and settings to be saved in a reserved part. is there a size limit of that reserved part and do i have to use fat or fat32?
[10:45] <brennus> ok, so if you had the money to throw down, would you get a tops System76 Gazelle Ultra, or a Macbook? Why?
[10:45] <salm0n> oh
[10:45] <salm0n> finally its figured out
[10:45] <unop> salm0n, yea, what was it?
[10:45] <mobi-sheep> salm0n, unop:  It does for me.  You want to work with Gnome, not Firefox. :3
[10:45] <salm0n> the links are bad
[10:46] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Even irc://irc.barafranca.com:6667/cartoon ?
[10:46] <unop> mobi-sheep, sorry but, i want to work with firefox - i don't use gnome
[10:46] <salm0n> what do you mean work with gnome?
[10:46] <ThorB> !samba
[10:47] <ThorB> lots**
[10:47] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: ALT + F2 --> Type in "gconf-editor"
[10:47] <ThorB>  Quick question, any of you guys know how to view the files on a Ubuntu Pc (with a cross over cable) i have ubuntu on my Netbook, but keyboard to small, and i want to rename LOTS of files on my Ubuntu machine
[10:47] <salm0n> ok mobi-sheep then what
[10:48] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Navigate to desktop/gnome/url-handlers/irc
[10:48] <LiNuX> helo i m new to linux
[10:48] <kujiu> ThorB: you can use the rename command
[10:48] <kujiu> but it's not graphical
[10:49] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: ok then?
[10:49] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: You see key --> command --> purple-url-handler "%s" ?
[10:49] <salm0n> yes
[10:50] <ThorB> kujio huh? im a total newb sorry.. i made a cross over cable, i want to connect my crappy Laptop to my Ubuntu Netboook
[10:50] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Change the value string --> command --> /usr/bin/xchat --existing --url="%s"
[10:50] <ThorB> and then rename files one by one
[10:50] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Save it.  Try it.
[10:50] <fuzzy> hi. i've been trouble shooting for ages. i tried to install nvidia drivers off there site(which was a bad idea)
[10:51] <SandGorgon> guys.. i want to check my hard disk for sector errors : my warranty is expiring soon and i want to make sure that there is nothing wrong before that: how do i do this?
[10:51] <salm0n> will that make it open in xchat gnome
[10:51] <fuzzy> i have uninstalled drivers installed and it works mostly normlly but any onpengl context is clear
[10:51] <ThorB> kujiu huh? im a total newb sorry.. i made a cross over cable, i want to connect my crappy Laptop to my Ubuntu Netboook
[10:51] <Chaps> Ziroday: One of our clients are looking to change all 3000 desktop machines to Ubuntu, and are looking for AV on it and thats where we come in...
[10:51] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Regular xchat, not xchat-gnome.
[10:51] <ThorB> kujiu u there :(
[10:51] <kujiu> ok
[10:51] <Chaps> ziroday:Is this a problem with any AV software(Meaning Ubuntu problem) or is it something the AV vendor needs to fix?
[10:51] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: But yeah, I assume you're using Gnome.  Try it though.
[10:52] <kujiu> ThorB: do you have define static ip in network config ?
[10:53] <Al__NZ> evening all.
[10:53] <fuzzy> is there a better place to trouble shoot?
[10:53] <Al__NZ> Does ubuntu mount NTFS disks/partitions automatically?
[10:53] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Any progress?
[10:54] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: yes (not at boot when you access them)
[10:54] <salm0n> mobi-sheep: ah yes now it works : - )
[10:54] <fuzzy> mine mount when i click them
[10:54] <fuzzy> my ntfs drives
[10:54] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Good. :)
[10:54] <salm0n> thanks
[10:54] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: interesting. I was trying to look at a drive in Gnome, but had to manually issue the commands in terminal to get it to mount?
[10:55] <fuzzy> anyone have a good idea of gfx drivers in ubuntu?
[10:55] <ThorB> kujiu, uhm  Nope i dont think I did that'
[10:55] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: It'll work for xchat because you changed the value that gnome handles -- which firefox will check when it comes to irc url handlers. ;)
[10:55] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Anyway.  Have fun cartooning. ;O
[10:55] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: no idea what may be heppening Works for many people as is... but add cases and bugs happen
[10:55] <ThorB> kujiu dont I need some "Samba" thingy/?
[10:55] <erUSUL> !av | Chaps
[10:55] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: yeah the drive is dodgy - that could have something to do with ti
[10:55] <Al__NZ> it
[10:56] <kujiu> you must have openssh-server installed
[10:56] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: could be that it does not get properly identified
[10:58] <kujiu> and connect to the other PC in Nautilus (edit the location and enter ssh://your_username@host_ip/)
[10:59] <Al__NZ> and if I ddrescue that drive, will the resulting file be the same size as the drive, or the same size as the used space?
[10:59] <Chaps> erUSUL: We are the local African Sophos distributor, so this is unfortunetely our business (AV)...and need to help this customer...
[11:00] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: the former; the same size as the drive/partition
[11:00] <Chaps> The only other option we have is to change to a different distro
[11:00] <erUSUL> Chaps: sorry did not read your exact problem
[11:01] <joaopinto> Chaps, I believe the avast linux version works fine on Ubuntu, but I am not sure, your customer is aware of the differences regarding virus on Linux, right ?
[11:02] <fuzzy> anyone had any nvidia gfx driver problems? all opengl windows are empty. cant see anything on google
[11:03] <erUSUL> fuzzy: nope sorry; you installed the correct driver right?
[11:05] <fuzzy> i got it straight from nvidia(not the best idea) closed xwindow did sudo sh driver. it compiled to kernal then screwed up
[11:06] <fuzzy> after that i uninstalled it. and reinstalled from ubuntu repos. though i can see now. opengl doesn't work
[11:06] <clepto> i find it seriously amusing to run xp in a vm under linux now....
[11:07] <clepto> instead of the other way around
[11:07] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: so if I want to ddrescue a small 10g disk to my 100gig disk that my ubunut boots off I so far have : sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sdb /dev/sda - but of course I dont want to write the output file to my working dev/sda/ - do I need to specify a file or dir on sda?
[11:07] <fuzzy> i've run wine in colinux in win xp. its strngly reliable
[11:07] <clepto> lol
[11:07] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: NO!
[11:08] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I made notes for myself so I could link on IRC links in Firefox and that'll prompt me to XChat.  Do you want it?  It's a command. ;o
[11:08] <clepto> the only reason i even use xp in a vm anymore is to watch netflix movies...
[11:08] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sdb somefile_on_your_good_disk
[11:08] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: and that file must first exist??
[11:09] <fuzzy> i'm gonna be using xp a lot more if i can't get ubuntu running again in next 10 min
[11:09] <clepto> lol whats wrong?
[11:09] <salm0n> what does that mean mobi-sheep ?
[11:09] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: no; it will be created... i do not have ddrescue installed check its man page for the details
[11:09] <fuzzy> tried to update my drivers of nvidia website
[11:09] <fuzzy> screwed everything. uninstalled the drivers and installed the ones from repos
[11:09] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: if you did sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sdb /dev/sda you will be ruining the good disk...
[11:10] <fuzzy> now any opengl window is transparent to desktop
[11:10] <clepto> ah i just use the driver manager in administration menu the nvidia drivers have caused me all kinds of grief
[11:10] <BigMack83> when creating a directory, and i set an owner on the dir with chown, is there a way i can make all new/moved/copied files in that dir keep that same ownership as the parent i set?
[11:10] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: It mean next time you reinstall your Ubuntu and you can't remember how you did it.  You just run the commands in the terminal and it'll change the value without having to do ALT + F2 and gconf-editor and such.
[11:10] <clepto> on my desktop i still cant get dual monitors to work with my xfx 9600gtx
[11:10] <Helpless> Hi all , i got 2xQuestions
[11:10] <salm0n> oh ok. yeah, please.
[11:10] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: I take notes for myself.  What packages to install.  What packages to remove.  What workarounds and such.  I suggest you do the same thing. ;)
[11:11] <fuzzy> yah. i've found u can't run anything that isn't from the ubuntu repos
[11:11] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: So i could sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sdb /dev/sda/testrescue ?
[11:11] <Helpless> first one , how do i disable the list of the last used documents in ubuntu ?
[11:11] <fuzzy> even new vlc ubuntu will cause greif
[11:11] <salm0n> ok thats a good idea
[11:11] <clepto> fuzzy: i dont know about drivers but i got all kinds of programs that arent in the ubuntu repos on my laptop
[11:12] <fuzzy> ok. i've just had bad experiences with stuff that isn't from the repos
[11:12] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: no; sudo ddrescue -v /dev/sdb /home/$USER/testrescue.img for example (that will save the image in your home folder with an informative extension)
[11:12] <mobi-sheep> fuzzy: Yes you can run anything that's not in repos but that's not recommended as you'll be installing softwares that you don't know if it's trustworthy.  Just like XP.
[11:12] <syn-ack> I remember when one could get away with running something out of the deb repos in ubuntu and be fairly safe
[11:12] <Al__NZ> ohh - i see
[11:12] <clepto> fuzzy: yeah ive been using linux since 97 and i still feel like a complete retard at times...
[11:12] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: /dev/sd** are espcial files only used for very special operations
[11:12] <syn-ack> erUSUL:
[11:12] <Al__NZ> right
[11:13] <Al__NZ> well its ok - i already killed my linux box with it :-)
[11:13] <fuzzy> yes well like when using everything you have to make that judgement. but many things that are trustworthy have issues
[11:13] <erUSUL> syn-ack: ?
[11:13] <syn-ack> I hope you can get thru to this guy, hes been in a channel that I op on undernet and we've not be able to get thru to him
[11:13] <fuzzy> i suppose because repos has to pass test
[11:13] <n0gear-desk> my auth.log is full of this message: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198399/ what does it mean?
[11:13] <syn-ack> that was to you, erUSUL...
[11:14] <fuzzy> i dunno i dont think anyone can fix it
[11:14] <susbwoy> hi - i recently did an apt-get upgrade and this came up(ubuntu 9.04) - http://pastebin.com/d3efdac4b            Any reason why it would be doing this?
[11:14] <fuzzy> cont be stuffed formatting
[11:14] <salm0n> mobi-sheep?
[11:14] <erUSUL> syn-ack: you are talking about fuzzy ?
[11:14] <fuzzy> any alternative where i can reset to defaults. get rid of wharee is screwed
[11:14] <clepto> fuzzy: yep, the problem with alotta newer hardware is the manufacturers dont support linux becuase it doesnt make financial sense. so they dont invest much into it. and they cant release their specs becuase if they do then the  competetors get them and can duplicate and reverse engineer them.
[11:14] <syn-ack> erUSUL: no, Al__NZ
[11:14] <erUSUL> syn-ack: ahh; ok
[11:15] <syn-ack> susbwoy: apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:15] <syn-ack> that will pull the kernel for you. :D
[11:15] <Macfuddy> how do I search a folder and it's subfolders and files for a certain bit of text?
[11:15] <clepto> fuzzy: so in the end we get hosed. historically nvidia has been pretty good about this though
[11:15] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Save this somewhere --> gconftool -s --type string /desktop/gnome/url-handlers/irc/command "/usr/bin/xchat --existing --url=\"%s\""
[11:15] <fuzzy> yah. i'm hopin reactos comes along and that project where linux kernal can run windows ones
[11:15] <levene> Macfuddy: grep -r
[11:15] <erUSUL> Macfuddy: grep -ir "certain bit of text" folder/
[11:15] <techp> any 1 know any good php channel
[11:15] <susbwoy> oh syn-ack - So it is actually a neat feature not an error :) thanks.
[11:15] <mobi-sheep> salm0n: Name it "Jaunty-Notes.txt" and such.
[11:15] <MenZa> techp→ er, #php ?
[11:16] <syn-ack> susbwoy: yep. :D
[11:16] <fuzzy> i mean windows drivers
[11:16] <syn-ack> susbwoy: map apt-get for more information on options
[11:16] <MenZa> fuzzy→ That's not going to happen anytime soon :p
[11:16] <syn-ack> susbwoy: rather, man
[11:16] <clepto> fuzzy: that could be cool but man that would be a shit ton of work...
[11:16] <jussi01> !language | clepto
[11:17] <fuzzy> well they are working on it. u can install reactos on reall hardware(old hardware that is lol) but still it is coming along
[11:17] <clepto> wow nailed by the tightwad police :)
[11:17] <salm0n> ok thanks
[11:17] <stdDoubt> how to insert a space before each line in a text file in automatic fashion?
[11:17] <syn-ack> jussi01: Does that mean the 7 deadly words bit by Carlin is out of the question to be aired in this channel?
[11:17] <joaopinto> stdDoubt, learn scripting with awk :)
[11:17] <msl> stdDoubt, Are you using vim?
[11:17] <jussi01> !ettiquette | syn-ack
[11:18] <syn-ack> jussi01: hahaha you're funny.
[11:18] <fuzzy> so anyone know a magical command to reset ubuntu
[11:18] <syn-ack> fuzzy: come again
[11:18] <clepto> rm -r /
[11:18] <clepto> sudo rm -r / that is
[11:18] <jussi01> syn-ack: hehe, anyway, if you really want to discuss it, please feel free to join #ubuntu-ops and we can chat...
[11:18] <syn-ack> fuzzy: define "reset"
[11:18] <clepto> then put the disk back in and reboot and reinstall
[11:18] <erUSUL> !danger | clepto
[11:18] <syn-ack> jussi01: Im just joshin you
[11:19] <stdDoubt> msl: yup I am using vim
[11:19] <zuluu> hey can anyone tell me if this configuration is ok? : http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/198406/
[11:19] <msl> stdDoubt,   :s/^/ /
[11:19] <clepto> wow
[11:19] <erUSUL> stdDoubt: sed 's/^/ /' oldfile > newfile
[11:19] <clepto> he asked how to reset his machine
[11:19] <stdDoubt> msl: thanks
[11:19] <fuzzy> syn-ack: get my computer working. delete all none default drivers and config and set them up again
[11:19] <stdDoubt> erUSUL:thnks
[11:19] <fuzzy> i know i'm being hopeful
[11:19] <clepto> ... i coulda just said reformat but i figured id put some spin on it
[11:19] <erUSUL> clepto: no that will render his system unbootable with a nice grub error
[11:19] <fuzzy> lol true
[11:20] <syn-ack> fuzzy: yeah do what you were told, reinsert the disk and start over
[11:20] <clepto> erusul: which was the point i was trying to make...
[11:20] <joaopinto> clepto, removing a system is not "reset" !!! please be more responsible when supporting someone
[11:20] <fuzzy> its fine i'm well aware
[11:20] <joaopinto> and also to mention that it would not work, you are not allowed to remove the root filesystem anymore
[11:20] <fuzzy> i was hopeing there was some secret
[11:20] <clepto> jaopinto: pay attention to the convo... he hosed his system he needs to reinstall. so i told him that in a humorous manner
[11:20] <jussi01> fuzzy: you may be, many other s arent.
[11:21] <jussi01> clepto: that command is never humorous here
[11:21] <fuzzy> true
[11:21] <clepto> jeeze did i land in the linux nohumor nazi zone or what?
[11:21] <joaopinto> clepto, ok, but not everyone understands such humor, and it is not humor when people lose data :)
[11:21] <clepto> yeah yeah i get it... relax
[11:22] <jussi01> clepto: could you join me in #ubuntu-ops for a moment?
[11:22] <clepto> um sure
[11:22] <Draglor> wow .. until now I thought the gentoo guys were the badest community .. as I read here it seems there is another channel (or it's users) even worse ...
[11:23] <Draglor> I was wondering why anyone I send to this channel refused to use ubuntu afterwards .. now I know why .. ;)
[11:23] <erUSUL> Draglor: you are free to leave.
[11:23] <fuzzy> what u mean draglor?
[11:24] <erUSUL> fuzzy: do not fedd the troll
[11:24] <erUSUL> feed*
[11:24] <fuzzy> true does seem like that
[11:24] <Draglor> fuzzy.. I got some Linux newbies to install ubuntu as i think it's the easiest distro, and for help I said they'
[11:25] <Draglor> d go here and ask .. but most of them were very disappointed after asking here ... so I came to see why this was the case
[11:25] <fuzzy> so your pro ubuntu?
[11:25] <Draglor> I'm not using it myself, but i think it's the best beginners distro
[11:26] <Threetimes_> Hi, I have a procmail problem. see http://pastebin.com/f624e200 Spam mails don't end up in the Junk box, they disappear.
[11:26] <joaopinto> Draglor, do you need support ? do you have a question ? This channel is usually not very friendly for newcommones when it is used for complains instead of real support questions :)
[11:27] <Draglor> joaopinto: I came to see why everyone I send here for getting support was dissappointed afterwards
[11:27] <ziroday> Threetimes_: yeah procmail can get titchy like that
[11:27] <fuzzy> ubuntu is easiest linux distro. but it's still linux. It currently fails in many user friendly areas
[11:28] <Draglor> Maybe they were not very patient or something like that, but what I read here in the last hours seems .. well ... very unpolite to me
[11:28] <fuzzy> so you have to explain that to them
[11:28] <joaopinto> Draglor, ok, so please watch silently :) Unless you need or can provide support ;)
[11:28] <ziroday> Threetimes_: try $HOME/Maildir/.Junk
[11:28] <Flannel> Draglor: Is there something on topic we could help you with today?
[11:28] <ziroday> err $HOME/Maildir/.Junk/
[11:28] <joaopinto> fuzzy, do you have a support question, there is an off topic channel for general chating...
[11:28] <Draglor> joaopinto: Like you? (Was this an support question? no ;) )
[11:28] <joaopinto> !ot | fuzzy
[11:28]  * erUSUL it is just a troll guys... ¬.¬
[11:29] <fuzzy> i have been trying lol
[11:29] <joaopinto> !ot | Draglor
[11:29] <fuzzy> i have sent 6 things no one really replied
[11:29] <Draglor> lol ..
[11:29] <Draglor> nice
[11:29] <fuzzy> though my problem is very odd
[11:30] <fuzzy> all opengl areas appear transparent. after i tried to install latest drivers from nvidia site
[11:30] <Draglor> fuzzy: patience may be the key ;) I think most users i send here weren't very patient at all, too ... sometimes you have to wait a bit longer forr answers ... everyone here is helping you for free and they may have othere things to do as well
[11:31] <fuzzy> exactly how i see it. they are donating there time
[11:32] <n0gear> my scp inside LAN runs at 20KB/s is that normal?
[11:32] <fuzzy> i don't recommend ubuntu to friends. I will show them beryl and stuff. You have to be a technical user with some appreciation
[11:33] <jrib> !beryl | fuzzy
[11:33] <fuzzy> yes i actually have compiz fusion installed. i forgot the name for a sec
[11:33] <oenone1> good evening
[11:33] <Draglor> good morning ;)
[11:33] <fuzzy> i thought you would still get it ubotto
[11:33] <ziroday> n0gear: well if you have dodgy cables/overloaded routers it is
[11:33] <oenone1> how do I install americas army in ubuntu ?
[11:34] <Slart> oenone1: have you downloaded it?
[11:34] <fuzzy> i would assume u require wine
[11:34] <imc_> Restarted and lost my panel and taskbar; can't Alt+F2 to run programs. What to do?
[11:34] <oenone1> im stiull downlaoding
[11:34] <oenone1> heheheeh
[11:34] <oenone1> but just wanna ask in advance
[11:34] <oenone1> if its easy to install in ubuntu
[11:34] <jrib> !enter | oenone1
[11:34] <oenone1> I am using jaunty 64bit
[11:34] <imc_> gnome is running but I am stuck looking at the desktop
[11:35] <valentin_> im looking for wa NAS software like drobo or freenas but on Ubuntu 9. Can you help me out?
[11:35] <jrib> imc_: can you get to a tty with ctrl-alt-f1?
[11:35] <imc_> yep
[11:35] <Cromlech> ïðåâåä ¸ïòà
[11:35] <Oggy> hmm my virtual machine ubuntu has been disabled after an install of WIN7 beta
[11:35] <imc_> I get the term.
[11:35] <Oggy> ?
[11:35] <Slart> imc_: cltr+alt+f1 to get a tty.. REMEMBER.. ALT+F7 to get  back.. remember that.. when you're in the tty try running "pkill gnome-panel; gnome-panel"
[11:35] <ziroday> valentin_: well you can configure most of the stuff yourself by editing the config files
[11:35] <jrib> imc_: create a fresh new user and see if gnome works for him
[11:35] <imc_> thanks slart trying
[11:35] <ziroday> !ebox | valentin_ otherwise
[11:36] <Slart> oenone1: I think it's the same in any linux variant.. you download the file.. run it.. it installs.. you run the game
[11:36] <fuzzy> oenonel. to run windows apps. just go to menus and go system -> admin -> synaptic and find wine
[11:36] <Slart> oenone1: if it still has a linux client.. not sure about that
[11:36] <valentin_> thx ubottu  ziroday ill look into ebox
[11:36] <clepto> anyone in here know much about virtualbox?
[11:36] <ziroday> !anyone | clepto
[11:36] <Cromlech> ïðåâåä þðåã)
[11:36] <ziroday> Cromlech: ?
[11:36] <Fergys> õïé
[11:36] <Fergys> õàé
[11:36] <Slart> !ru | Cromlech
[11:36] <clepto> so ziroday: you know much about virtualbox?
[11:36] <fuzzy> i've used vbox clepto
[11:36] <Fergys> åòè ìàòü ñêîêà èõ òóò
[11:36] <Cromlech> hello
[11:37] <ziroday> clepto: yes I do
[11:37] <Fergys> hi
[11:37] <Cromlech> russian
[11:37] <oenone1> can I play online with it ?
[11:37] <Slart> Fergys, Cromlech: english only in this channel .. /join #ubuntu-ru for russian help
[11:37] <clepto> fuzzy: k for some reason the vmware network adapter isnt working... i have it set for host interface but in my xp install it is failing to start the adapter any ideas?
[11:37] <imc_> slart "cannot open display"
[11:37] <ziroday> oenone1: America's Army has an online multiplayer component, yes
[11:37] <Slart> oenone1: if you can install it my guess is you will be able to play online
[11:37] <oenone1> is it for free?
[11:38] <Slart> oenone1: yes, it's free
[11:38] <oenone1> or do I have to play to pay online ???
[11:38] <clepto> fuzzy: its giving a code 10
[11:38] <ziroday> oenone1: yes, America's Army is free to play online
[11:38] <Slart> imc_: hmm.. it sounds like a cheap solution.. but have you tried just rebooting?
[11:38] <imc_> Slart yes
[11:38] <oenone1> wow that's great !!!
[11:38] <imc_> It's a new install, and on the firts reboot everything worked as expected. Then on next reboot this happened.
[11:38] <oenone1> to hell with call of duty 4 then
[11:38] <Fergys> êòî çíàåò ðóññêèé????????
[11:38] <fuzzy> thats outside my experience unfortunately.
[11:39] <imc_> Slart to be clear, gnome is running just not the panel
[11:39] <clepto> so anyone else got a clue?
[11:39] <Slart> oenone1: hmm.. seems they discontinued the linux/mac version =/
[11:39] <Cromlech> îíè òåáå íàïèñàëè æå ññûëêó
[11:40] <Slart> imc_: that's odd.. any errors in the syslog?
[11:40] <oenone1> what
[11:40] <oenone1> huhuuhhu
[11:40] <Cromlech> ÿ óæå òàì
[11:40] <jrib> clepto: repeat your actual question after some time, since I have no idea what I should or should not have a clue about
[11:40] <imc_> Slart, checking
[11:40] <oenone1> then im poooked
[11:40] <jrib> !english | Cromlech
[11:40] <Slart> Cromlech: English only... type   /join #ubuntu-ru
[11:40] <fuzzy> i should go. i'm not making much headway with my problem here. and its been 2 hours ><. format is always a fix
[11:40] <Slart> oenone1: you can try wine.. see if it's listed in the application database
[11:40] <Slart> !appdb | oenone1
[11:41] <masquerade> hey
[11:41] <masquerade> i cant burn and iso image to dvd using brasero
[11:41] <imc_> Slart only "trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0"
[11:41] <oenone1> I thought this is a game for linuxxx
[11:41] <digitaloktay> hi people
[11:42] <Draglor> it used to have an linux client oenone1, maybe it'll get another one later again
[11:42] <Slart> oenone1: I thought so too.. afaik it was a game for linux.. but they stopped releasing updates for the linux version..to bad
[11:44] <masquerade> can anyone help me with this? i get an error burning an iso with brasero http://pastebay.com/22917
[11:44]  * away` ïî÷åñàë Cromlech
[11:45] <Slart> imc_: don't really know what to do about that.. can't say I've had any problems with gnome-panel
[11:45] <Cromlech> ))
[11:46] <away`> ïðîáëåìû ñ ãíîìüåé ïàíåëüþ?
[11:46] <away`> î ãîñïàäè
[11:46] <mrh> Hi all, I wanted to share some info about a problem I had with bittorrent, I came here a couple of times and was unable to get an answer
[11:46] <FloodBot3> away`: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:46] <imc_> Slart thanks. Actually when I run pkill gnome-panel gnome-panel it wants options... Trying to understand what it wants...
[11:46] <Slart> away`: english only in this channel
[11:46] <masquerade> mrh: whats your problem?
[11:47] <imc_> Slart a ps aux | grep gnome-panel shows nada
[11:47] <Cromlech> adios amigo
[11:47] <masquerade>  can someone help me with this? i get an error burning an iso with brasero http://pastebay.com/22917
[11:47] <Slart> imc_: it might need a display... hang on
[11:47] <imc_> thanks, it IS complaining about a display
[11:47] <mrh> It turns out it was a KDE problem. I am running hardy, with KDE 3.5.10, and my system kept freezing, and I finally tried switching to Gnome when using bittorrent, and voila! no more problems
[11:48] <Slart> imc_: try this "DISPLAY=:0.0 gnome-panel"
[11:48] <imc_> Slart, thanks, trying
[11:48] <ziroday> masquerade: tried burning another CD?
[11:49] <mrh> So now, I simply log out of my KDE session, log in to a Gnome session, and no more problems, I wish I knew more so as to be able to share more detailed information, however, at least I know this much
[11:49] <imc_> Slart, w00t.
[11:49] <masquerade> ziroday: yes, i have tried about 3 dvds and the md5 sum of the file seems to be matching
[11:49] <away`> Oh! It's gnome-panel! It makes me cry to!
[11:49] <away`> T_T
[11:49] <tmavy> hey there
[11:49] <imc_> It did complain about libglade-WRNING unexpected element <requires-version> inside <glade interface>
[11:50] <Draglor> masquerade: Did you try differeent CDs? (from different manufacturers?)
[11:50] <mrh> It had been the only problem I had been unable to solve on my own or with this channel's help
[11:50] <Pathfinder> ïðåâåä ¸ïòà
[11:50] <Pathfinder> æÂ
[11:50] <ziroday> masquerade: hmm then I have no idea sorry
[11:50] <ziroday> !ru | Pathfinder
[11:50] <tmavy> this is my first time here
[11:50] <Slart> !ru | Pathfinder
[11:50] <mrh> anyway, thought I would share that
[11:50] <tmavy> so Hello everyone
[11:50] <Cromlech> hello  Pathfinder
[11:50] <petx> hi all... anyone knows... y my mozilla cant browse up...?? but i connect the internet...
[11:50] <mrh> Bye all
[11:50] <Pathfinder> hello))))))))
[11:50] <mobi-sheep> Hi tmavy. :)
[11:50] <mobi-sheep> !hi | tmavy
[11:50] <masquerade> Draglor: well, i was able to burn these dvds before
[11:50] <tmavy> thx
[11:50] <tmavy> guys
[11:51] <Cromlech> ñàì ãíóñ)
[11:51] <tmavy> Im really impressed about ubuntu
[11:51] <remoteCTR1> hi guys! how do i find out what application i need to start in order to have the networmanager-applet running in the notification area?
[11:51] <tmavy> and it does
[11:51] <Pathfinder> èìåë ÿ âàñ âñåõ â îäíî ìåñòî)))
[11:51] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: nm-applet
[11:51] <tmavy> just GREAT!
[11:51] <remoteCTR1> ziroday, wonderful, thanks!
[11:51] <Cromlech> àôñë
[11:51] <Cromlech> àôñëfack
[11:51] <saran> ho
[11:51] <mobi-sheep> tmavy: Great!  Keep everything on a line.  New to Ubuntu?  You got anything you want to ask?  I'm sure I can help you. :)
[11:52] <erUSUL> masquerade: wodim (the command line burning program brasero uses is failing with Errno: 5 (Input/output error), send opc scsi sendcmd: no error \n status: 0x2 (CHECK CONDITION) \n etc... (See the last lines of the paste)
[11:52] <erUSUL> masquerade: why is failing like that i dunno
[11:52] <tmavy> Is anything similiar to (win)TotalCommander in Ubuntu?
[11:52] <erUSUL> masquerade: but maybe a bit of googling of that errors shed some light
[11:52] <petx> hi all... anyone knows... why  mozilla cant browse ...?? but i connect the internet...
[11:52] <imc_> Slart and it seems to have died at step 15 - however It is basically uP. I guess I need to reinstall gnome-panel?
[11:52] <erUSUL> !info mc | tmavy
[11:52] <masquerade> erUSUL: okay, alright^^
[11:52] <remoteCTR1> tmavy, midnight commande, ie sudo apt-get install mc
[11:53] <remoteCTR1> ah ok
[11:53] <tmavy> thx guys
[11:53] <remoteCTR1> np
[11:53] <Slart> imc_: that might work.. but if it's a configuration thing that is broken that might not help
[11:53] <tmavy> how to drag it just through the browser
[11:53] <Slart> imc_: not sure if you can do "sudo apt-get install --reinstall --purge gnome-panel"  but it might be worth a try
[11:53] <erUSUL> masquerade: you changed media manufacturer ? sometimes there are weird incompatibilities between burner model and media
[11:53] <imc_> Slart, thanks, will try
[11:54] <masquerade> erUSUL: i was able to burn these before
[11:54] <Draglor> masquerade: Maybe the manufacturer has changed. even if it's the same name for the blank CD it has not to be the same manufacturer
[11:54] <belair> hi
[11:55] <mobi-sheep> tmavy: gnome-commander is in the repos if you want to give it a try.
[11:55] <mobi-sheep> tmavy: sudo aptitude install gnome-commander
[11:55] <davro> remoteCTR1: or gnome-commander
[11:55] <masquerade> Draglor: okay, i will look
[11:55] <Draglor> masquerade: Or try burning using wodim directly
[11:56] <masquerade> Draglor: i never used wodim before
[11:56] <imc_> Slart i have some more errors if you're game:
[11:57] <Slart> imc_: sure
[11:57] <imc_> Failed to contact the GConf daemon: exiting
[11:57] <Draglor> masquerade: look in query
[11:57] <masquerade> Draglor: huh?
[11:57] <susbwoy> lol hey is someone able to show me their grub/menu.lst with the new kernel in it, i chose "keep current version(which was the default) after upgrading the packages
[11:57] <tmavy> thx folks
[11:57] <Slart> imc_: when do you get that?
[11:58] <imc_> gnome-panel:4504 GLib Gobject CRITICAL g_object_run_dispose: assertion G_IS_Object failed
[11:58] <petx> guys... I confused why mozilla didnt work...
[11:58] <Slart> susbwoy: new kernel?
[11:58] <imc_> Slart when I ran DISPLAY :0.0 gnome-panel
[11:58] <Pathfinder> ÁÀËÀËÀÉÊÀ ÌÅÄÂÅÄÈ
[11:58] <imc_> it started to time out on applet 15
[11:58] <Pathfinder> ÒÎÏÎËÜ Ì
[11:58] <FloodBot1> Pathfinder: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[11:58] <imc_> then kicked out those errors
[11:59] <Draglor> masquerade: there should be another window ...
[11:59] <Draglor> like another irc channel
[11:59] <masquerade> Draglor: ah, you mean the pm
[11:59] <Draglor> yes
[11:59] <Slart> imc_: seems your gnome-panel is doing someting bad.. or rather.. one of the applets is doing something bad
[11:59] <Slart> imc_: did you try that sudo apt-get command?
[12:00] <imc_> Slart, yes, and it reinstalled but logging out and back in gave same situation.
[12:00] <susbwoy> Slart: well i recently did an apt-get upgrade and it told me i could upgrade the kernel. so i said a dist-upgrade and went through installation using defaults, but i havent got a menu.lst with 2.6.28-13 in it. Still boots 2.6.28-11
[12:00] <ubuntistas> how can i play wmv files? any clue?
[12:00] <ziroday> ubuntistas: have you install ubuntu-restricted-extras and tried vlc?
[12:00] <Slart> susbwoy: tried running "sudo update-grub" in a terminal?
[12:01] <rabten> hi
[12:01] <remoteCTR1> ubuntistas, most likely vlc does that fo you and install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[12:01] <abdullah> _nic
[12:01] <Draglor> masquerade: you're reading the pm?
[12:01] <remoteCTR1> ziroday, gawd i am to slow today:D
[12:01] <ubuntistas> yeap ziroday but it says i have to convert it to flv
[12:01] <ubuntistas> how can i do that?
[12:01] <ziroday> ubuntistas: where does it say you have to convert it to flv?
[12:02] <Slart> imc_: hmm.. hang on.. let me look up something
[12:02] <ziroday> remoteCTR1: :D
[12:02] <imc_> Also Slart I'm grateful thanks
[12:02] <susbwoy> Slart: thanks for the command, rebooting now :)
[12:02] <abdullah> in ubuntu how do i install tar.gz pakages
[12:02] <rabten> i've used 100% of the space i initially partitioned for ubuntu
[12:02] <Slart> abdullah: depends on what is in the package
[12:02] <ubuntistas> in the torrent txt that iam downloading the movie file
[12:03] <Slart> abdullah: it could be everything from binaries, source code to images of spanish miniature horses
[12:03] <abdullah> slart: i am inslalling vmware server
[12:03] <rabten> is there a way i can create more room?
[12:03] <masquerade> Slart: roflmao
[12:04] <ziroday> ubuntistas: we can't help you with that sorry
[12:04] <Slart> abdullah: then there is probably instructions inside the package.. or on the page where you downloaded them
[12:04] <remoteCTR1> rabten havwe a look at gparted
[12:04] <abdullah> how can i convert tar.gz to .deb
[12:04] <Slart> !compile | abdullah
[12:04] <rabten> remoteCTR1: : problem is i don't think i have any more room to install it
[12:04] <abdullah> bluemind
[12:04] <ziroday> rabten: there is also a free space option in the recovery partition, you can clear your apt-cache, see if what files are hogging space and remove them as well as install localepurge and remove unneeded locales.
[12:05] <rabten> remoteCTR1: : i tried booting up from the live cd and using gparted on it
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> rabten, the filesystem keeps a free space of 5% for the root user there is a way to change that number
[12:05] <ahmed> I want to create a jaunty domU on hardy dom0 xen machine, any idea
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> rabten clever thing to do, what went wrong?
[12:05] <Gahn> heh
[12:05] <Slart> imc_: ok.. open a terminal and run this.. "gconftool - -recursive-unset /apps/panel "
[12:05] <bluemind> abdullah: yeah?
[12:05] <rabten> well, it just seemed to stall
[12:05] <imc_> Slart, doing it. . .
[12:05] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, idea on what precisely?
[12:05] <imc_> Slart, as root or as user?
[12:06] <Slart> imc_: and this next command I want you to be careful with... copy paste it.. but be very careful not to include any extra spaces or such.. ok?    rm -rf ~/.gconf/apps/panel
[12:06] <remoteCTR1> rabten, stall??? i hope you didnt interrupt gparted in the middle of something??
[12:06] <Slart> imc_: as regular suser
[12:06] <rabten> remoteCTR1: : i really don't think it was doing anything
[12:06] <rabten> remoteCTR1: yes i interrupted
[12:06] <imc_> Slart ;) can't cut and paste as I am on a different box but I'll be super careful!
[12:06] <Slart> imc_: it's your user settings we want to change.. if you use sudo you will be changing the settings for "root"
[12:06] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, I don't know from where to start there is no template in xen-tools like hardy.d or other destro
[12:06] <imc_> Yep, big duh Slart, sorry
[12:07] <rabten> remoteCTR1: you think i should run it again off the live cd and just wait?
[12:07] <imc_> Carefully* trying the next command :)
[12:07] <remoteCTR1> rabten, err... stupid question; you have seen that there is an apply button that you have to hit in order to aplly changes in gparted?
[12:07] <susbwoy> Slart: Still no new kernel, but update-grub sees it, and says it updates menu.lst, but it doesnt :\ http://pastebin.com/d5e1f5d63
[12:07] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i left it for about half an hour and the progression bar hadn't moved at all
[12:07] <abdullah> in ubuntu login screen i cant login as root user
[12:07] <Slart> susbwoy: can you pastebin your menu.lst?
[12:07] <rabten> remoteCTR1: yes?
[12:07] <Draglor> masquerade: maybe you should get another burning tool than brasero  ....  ;)
[12:07] <imc_> SLart, okay I ran both
[12:07] <Slart> abdullah: quite right.. you're not supposed to.. use sudo instead
[12:07] <deeflex> Hi I'm trying to install ubuntu on a SATA disk. BIOS detects the drive, but when I reach the partitioning step in the install, the disk is not available.
[12:07] <imc_> No complaints so far...
[12:07] <Slart> !root | abdullah
[12:07] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, try doing that with the debootstrap method and just fill in the proper values for jaunty in xentools.conf
[12:08] <Slart> imc_: now try restarting gnome-panel
[12:08] <imc_> Righto Slart, trying
[12:08] <coz_> masquerade,   I have not had good luck with brasero   if you are on gnome try  gnomebaker
[12:08] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i applied the changes and nothing happened for half an hour
[12:08] <remoteCTR1> rabten :D yes
[12:08] <Draglor> coz_: Seems the same to him .. wodim burns correctly, brasero has an error
[12:08] <Slart> imc_: what these commands did was remove all panel settings.. both in the gnome "registry".. and in the config files.. hopefully you'll get a brand new panel
[12:08] <masquerade> coz_: i tried burning from the cli and it seems it worked
[12:08] <susbwoy> Slart: http://pastebin.com/d27383e62 there is my menu.lst
[12:09] <rabten> the progression bar didn't move
[12:09] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, I try it but when I start the machine with xen create, it hang up after a while without knowing a reason
[12:09] <coz_> masquerade,  ok then yeah If you want a gui based burner try gnomebaker
[12:09] <imc_> Still getting that libglade-WARNING unexpected element <requires-version> inside <glade-interface> on applet 11 and still timing out on applet 15 Slart,
[12:09] <abdullah> ubottu: i changed the root password from the users and group and i tried to open it
[12:09] <rabten> remoteCTR1: so you think i should just run it again and go to sleep and see if anything's changed in 10 hours?
[12:09] <Slart> imc_: hmm.. why are the applets still there.. they should be gone by now
[12:09] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, have you found any hints in any log files?
[12:10] <imc_> Slart very weird
[12:10] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, sorry but no
[12:10] <Slart> imc_: if you start gconf-editor from a terminal and look in apps/panel/applets.. what do you see?
[12:10] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i figured that the lack of disk space was causing gparted's operations to fail
[12:10] <imc_> moment...
[12:11] <remoteCTR1> rabten, basically i cannot tell per remote diagnosis what exactly happened but it might also be that 0% free space is to few to get gparted startet... maybe try removing some things from your home dir f.ex by moving it to the other partition or at least empty trash etc
[12:11] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, I'm trying ubuntu-vm-builder now hope it's work
[12:11] <imc_> Oh
[12:11] <rabten> okie
[12:11] <abdullah> ubottu :thanks it worked
[12:11] <rabten> thanks
[12:11] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, i got no experience on that one, for me the debootstrap vriant allways worked...
[12:12] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, did you try jaunty with debootstrap before
[12:12] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i haven't got anything in trash
[12:12] <imc_> SLart, mucho stuff there, but only five directories, 0-4
[12:12] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i just installed ubuntu yesterday
[12:13] <rabten> remoteCTR1: the only thing i've installed is xchat
[12:13] <abdullah> ubottu: what is your email address?
[12:13] <Slart> imc_: try "pkill -9 gnome-panel" first.. then try starting it again
[12:13] <imc_> Slart, trying
[12:13] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, not specifically jaunty but from hardy to intrepid and even debian etch and lenny everything worked like charms...
[12:13] <imc_> THough I think I've tried that'
[12:13] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i've only 2GB in memory and its all used
[12:13] <abdullah> ubottu: what is you email address?
[12:14] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i might delete some things and try gparted again
[12:14] <remoteCTR1> rabten, ya well that might be a liiittle undersized :D
[12:14] <Slart> susbwoy: hmm.. your menu list only mentions the .11 kernel.. but grub-update found the new .13 kernel.. odd
[12:14] <remoteCTR1> rabten, uninstall openoffice
[12:14] <imc_> Slart, so when I do that I get the same libglade-WARNING
[12:14] <remoteCTR1> or something like that
[12:14] <abdullah> ubottu:!!
[12:14] <imc_> And the same crash at applet 15
[12:14] <bazhang> abdullah, she's a bot
[12:14] <imc_> abdullah, please stop teasing ubottu
[12:14] <abdullah> i am also a bot
[12:14] <ahmed> remoteCTR1, ok I'd just install a fresh jaunty-64 now I'll try again and update you with the status, thanks for your help
[12:15] <remoteCTR1> abdullah, ubottu keeps telling you that it is a ROBOT man, please get the message;)
[12:15] <bazhang> abdullah, wrong channel for you then
[12:15] <Slart> imc_: but you didn't have an applet 15 in gconf-editor?
[12:15] <imc_> Slart, I don't see one.
[12:15] <remoteCTR1> ahmed, no problem:)
[12:15] <imc_> The applets I see in conf-editor are in directories, titled 0 through 4
[12:16] <susbwoy> Slart: I know! very weird. What can i do from here? Is the edit of menu.lst most likely just a rewrite of what's there but different filenames for the kernel?
[12:16] <Slart> imc_: and in apps/panel/default_setup/applets? no applet 15 there either?
[12:16] <imc_> Checking
[12:16] <susbwoy> Slart: If that's the case, it's not an issue. But im worried about that uuid stuff, no idea what it is. If i can just point to the .28-13 kernel, then change the title, thats fine and dandy
[12:17] <abdullah> ubottu: you are a bot and a dog!!!
[12:17] <remoteCTR1> abdullah, stop trolling man
[12:17] <Slart> susbwoy: I think it uses uuid
[12:17] <abdullah> ubottu you have gone mad
[12:17] <bazhang> abdullah, /msg ubottu
[12:17] <imc_> Slart in Apps/panel/default setup/applets there are no numbered applets, though things like Clock and mixer
[12:18] <Slart> susbwoy: I think it uses uuid's to find the right partitions and such.. not sure if you can just change the filename of the kernel to boot.. perhaps it works.. not sure if it will mess anything else up though
[12:18] <abdullah> ubottu: you are a dog
[12:18] <Slart> imc_: and you didn't run "sudo gconf-editor" ?
[12:18] <imc_> Slart correct
[12:18] <abdullah> ubottu you are a bad girl
[12:18] <bazhang> abdullah, stay on topic or you will be removed
[12:19] <imc_> New error: GTK Warning: gtk_widget size allocate attempt to allocate with width -1 and height 24
[12:19] <abdullah> bazhang hoe can you remove me
[12:19] <remoteCTR1> abdullah, keep trolling and you will find out
[12:20] <imc_> Slart, i tried removing applets or buttons I had added in case that was the problem; now the applet that crashes is on Applet 9
[12:20] <abdullah> you all are dogs
[12:20] <Slart> imc_: well.. you can reset all your gnome-settings in pretty much the same way you've already done.. but that seems a bit overkill
[12:20] <imc_> Slart, well, as I say it's a new install so there's not much I'll lose
[12:21] <remoteCTR1> waht a smacktard...
[12:21] <hero1900> i have problem in burning cds or dvds it gave me error before it began the burning process on both k3b and brasero
[12:21] <Slart> imc_: you can try the Edit->Find command to search for "applet_9" perhaps it's somewhere sneaky
[12:21] <MatBoy> what do people use here to check id a daemon is running and start it when it fails ? I need to check the ps output I think
[12:21] <mobi-sheep> imc_: What did you do that left your Ubuntu deformed?
[12:21] <imc_> SLart, trying
[12:21] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, so wahts the message?
[12:21] <jrib> MatBoy: what are *you* trying to do?
[12:21] <imc_> mobi-sheep I guess I thought bad thoughts or sumthin
[12:21] <susbwoy> Slart: Is there a way I can tell update-grub to spit out the new "edits" into another file
[12:21] <Draglor> MatBoy: pidof $daemon should help
[12:21] <hero1900> i have the log file it is big
[12:21] <susbwoy> other than menu.lst
[12:21] <jrib> imc_: did you try what I suggested earlier?
[12:22] <hero1900> and error has been occurred thats it
[12:22] <pkkm> how to send e-mail from command line?
[12:22] <imc_> jrib please repeat it?
[12:22] <MatBoy> jrib: I have a daemon that crashes from time to time... I need to restart it :)
[12:22] <Slart> susbwoy: not that I know f
[12:22] <jrib> imc_: create a fresh new user and see if gnome works for him
[12:22] <susbwoy> damn
[12:22] <gribouille> hi
[12:22] <jrib> MatBoy: what daemon?
[12:22] <imc_> jrib okay
[12:22] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, in that case nopaste it to pastebin.com please and paaste the link to it here
[12:22] <sipior> pkkm: have a look at the man page for "mail"
[12:23] <Slart> MatBoy: I think what you're doing is called a "watchdog".. there has to be a tool for this in the repos.. but yes.. checking ps output might work
[12:23] <remoteCTR1> pkkm, you can for example use the sendEmail application for that
[12:23] <hero1900> i already put it in ubuntu forum
[12:23] <MatBoy> jrib: own build one, running using perl
[12:23] <hero1900> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7477146#post7477146
[12:23] <imc_> Slart, so applet 9 finds nothing. 9 finds /system/default/storage/options/iso_9600 and something similar under schemas
[12:23] <gribouille> I have a problem with firefox 3. from times to times, when I quit the browser, the window takes a very long time to disappear. this is very annoying
[12:23] <jrib> MatBoy: would make more sense to me to just fix it so it does not crash anymore
[12:23] <hero1900> but no one can help i guess
[12:23] <Slart> imc_: you might want to check in that folder we tried clearing out.. .gnome something.. perhaps it's there
[12:24] <Slart> imc_: but I have to go now.. oral exam in 35 minutes =)
[12:24] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, we will see, gimme a sec...
[12:24] <indus> !troll
[12:25] <hero1900> ok thanks
[12:25] <indus> hi all
[12:25] <imc_> Slart thanks for all the help
[12:25] <indus> anyone needs help?
[12:25] <Slart> imc_: you're welcome.. sorry we couldn't fix it, perhaps someone else knows more about gnome-panel and its applets
[12:26] <mobi-sheep> imc_: I wonder if you ran md5sum before you burn it?
[12:26] <susbwoy> Slart: err i think I found something. my menu.lst says "Should update-grub adjust the value of the default booted system?" "updatedefaultentry=false" is the default
[12:26] <unop> MatBoy,   using the shell.   while true; do invoke_daemon; done
[12:26] <imc_> jrib, new user has all.
[12:27] <susbwoy> Slart: maybe change that to true?
[12:27] <imc_> Slart, thanks again
[12:27] <gribouille> I have a problem with firefox 3. from times to times, when I quit the browser, the window takes a very long time to disappear. this is very annoying
[12:27] <Slart> susbwoy: that sounds promising.. but it should still create a menu choice for it
[12:27] <Draglor> unop: This could start very many processes ... wouldn't it be better to check if it's still running first?
[12:27] <imc_> jrib I think it may be that I'm in the netbook remix and I changed to classic ubuntu desktop not this netbook view...
[12:27] <Slart> susbwoy: but give it a try.. remember to run "sudo update-grub" after you change the menu.lst
[12:28] <jrib> imc_: check ~/.xsession-errors
[12:28] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, appears to me as if yur brasero doesnt find any cd/dvd/drives at all and thus gets an input/output error
[12:28] <imc_> jrib, checking
[12:28] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, are your drives there in nautilus?
[12:28] <hero1900> ya
[12:28] <hero1900> pioneer
[12:28] <susbwoy> Slart: I think i know what happened. When i went through the kernel install, i chose keep current version. That action probably changed updatedefaultentry to false.
[12:28] <susbwoy> Slart: but trying now :)
[12:29] <imc_> jrib I have a festival of errors; I'll cat to a file and paste it somewhere
[12:29] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, says BraseroBurnURI no burn:// URI found
[12:29] <hero1900> and when i put a black dvd brasero open dialog automaticlly
[12:29] <unop> Draglor,  as long as the command doesn't return .. this construct will run only one instance at a time .. when that instance fails/returns, the loop iterates to run another
[12:29] <petx> hi all... mozilla didnt work... but I connect XChat... any clue....??
[12:29] <gribouille> I have a problem with firefox 3. from times to times, when I quit the browser, the window takes a very long time to disappear. this is very annoying
[12:29] <hero1900> ??
[12:30] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, if you enter a cd/dvd with content into that drive, can you access the data or do you get an error there too?
[12:30] <Draglor> unop: yes and if it returns it'll start the next instance and so on
[12:30] <petx> hi all... mozilla firefox didnt work... but I connect XChat... any clue....??
[12:30] <petx> I cant browse... T_T
[12:30] <gribouille> petx, firefox sux
[12:30] <unop> Draglor,  most commands/daemons don't return
[12:30] <MatBoy> jrib: it should actually not crash... I need to see how much it will be restarted
[12:30] <petx> gribouille, so... what should I use..??
[12:30] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, please write the name of the person you are talking to infront of your statements so one can see that you are talking to one through all the noise in here
[12:31] <gribouille> petx, firefox
[12:31] <n0gear> ls
 ok
[12:31] <mobi-sheep> petx: Make sure you're not operating in Offline Mode.
[12:31] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 ok??
[12:31] <petx> mobi-sheep, how I know its offline or not...??
[12:31] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, ok :D so do you see the content of cd/dvds?
[12:32] <susbwoy> Slart: ok still not adding the entry. argh...
[12:32] <th0r> petx: look at the File menu and see if Work Offline is checked
[12:32] <imc_> jrib could you please look at http://paste.ubuntu.com/198460 ?
[12:32] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 wait i want to check now
[12:32] <mobi-sheep> petx: In Firefox, File --> Work Offline.   If it's checked, that's the problem.
[12:32] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, kk
[12:33] <Draglor> just tried this unop .... (commands "cat $file" and a  irc bot "supybot") both are repeated very fast very often ... the bot refuses to start a second time, but it's tried again and again ... until Ctrl-C
[12:33] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 it is working fine
[12:33] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, going for a smoke, be back in 5
[12:33] <petx> th0r, mobi-sheep, it works.... thank u so much... ^^
[12:33] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 good as before
[12:33] <mobi-sheep> petx: Wow. Good!  :3
[12:33] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, ah ok well lets give it one more shot, have you tryed burning with gnomebaker?
[12:33] <petx> hehee... sry.... I'm new...
[12:33] <unop> Draglor, supybot is your perl script?
[12:33] <hero1900> no
[12:34] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 no
[12:34] <rob_p> unop, Draglor , Probably wiser to test for a running instance and then spawn another when it's no longer found.  Simple shell script can accomplish that.
[12:34] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, give it a shot and start it from commandline so you can paste the output, maybe that one returns something more readable...
[12:34] <hero1900> gnomebaker i only tried with k3b and brasero
[12:34] <Draglor> unop: i just tried this command, yes
[12:34] <hero1900> gnomebaker ok
[12:34] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, have a try with gnomebaker then
[12:34] <om26er> how to git install
[12:35] <hero1900> gnomebaker ok
[12:35] <unop> Draglor, did you write supybot ?
[12:35] <Draglor> rob_p: That's what I said ;) I just ran this command to show unop that it doesn't do what MatBoy wants
[12:35] <Draglor> no unop
[12:35] <susbwoy> Slart: Problem solved. I ended up deleting menu.lst and let update-grub create a new one for me. That was bloody weird how it couldnt edit it. Thanks for your time
[12:35] <Draglor> unop: supybot is a python bot, not a perl one
[12:36] <om26er> how do i install this git://anongit.freedesktop.org/git/xorg/driver/xf86-video-intel
[12:36] <unop> rob_p, that's really what the construct it supposed to be doing .. as long as the command to be run doesn't return until it has finished executing or has failed
[12:36] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, so now smoke, be back in 5
[12:36] <rob_p> Draglor, In fact, you could get fancy and create a pidfile and then bounce that against your process list for a match.  When the matching pid is no longer found, clear the old pidfile and start again.
[12:36] <jim__> ANY WEMEN
[12:36] <Draglor> unop: Normally every command returns, try it yourself using cat/ls/whatever
[12:36] <bazhang> jim__, not here
[12:37] <petx> mobi-sheep, everytime I start the firefox... it set to offline mode...
[12:37] <jim__> ARGHHH
[12:37] <sipior> jim__: good luck with that approach
[12:37] <bazhang> !ot > jim__
[12:37] <mobi-sheep> petx: You installed Ubuntu recently?
[12:37] <unop> Draglor,  right .. consider the daemon ( a long running process ) the same .. cat/ls/whatever don't run for so long
[12:37] <Draglor> try "while true ; do ls ./ ; done"  and you'll see it's repeated again and again ..
[12:37] <jim__> I ALLWAYS HAVE MY WIFE
[12:37] <petx> yups...
[12:37] <petx> mobi-sheep, yups
[12:37] <bazhang> jim__, take chat elsewhere thanks
[12:37] <unop> Draglor,  that is precisely the idea :)
[12:38] <mobi-sheep> petx: Okay.  Well, I don't know why this is happening but let's do this and see if it resolve your issue...
[12:38] <Draglor> unop: but the daemon (like supybot is) returns immediately to the shell (otherwise you could not send another command afterwards)
[12:38] <jim__> SORRY FREAKS
[12:38] <rob_p> unop, Some things work ok as you suggested, others don't.  If the spawning process returns (as in forking the instance to bg), then it will spawn another, and another, etc.
[12:38] <sipior> time to go, jim__
[12:38] <petx> mobi-sheep, ok...
[12:38] <n0gear> i've got 2 terminals running + irssi, is it normal that i still have 1Gb of memory in use? jaunty
[12:38] <jim__> FUCK YOU
[12:38] <sipior> bye now
[12:38] <Draglor> He wants to have a daemon started if it doesn't run anymore .. so he just has to check for the process (maybe pidof ..) before starting it
[12:39] <Draglor> like in if [ "`pidof $daemon`" == "" ] ; then $daemon  ;fi
[12:39] <unop> Draglor,  while true; do pidof supybot || supybot; sleep $X; done
[12:39] <mobi-sheep> petx: cd ~ && mv .mozilla .mozilla-backup
[12:39] <unop> Draglor,  if pidof $daemon; ...
[12:39] <mobi-sheep> petx: Close the firefox.  Run the command in the terminal.  Try Firefox again.
[12:39] <Draglor> yes .. would be shorter ;)
[12:40] <Draglor> I don't like "while true ..." .... it's easy to mess up with it
[12:40] <ViperMax> Hi Folk, Does anybody know any Linux program for economy/accounting? I am running ubuntu 9.04
[12:40] <aethelrick> gnucash
[12:40] <unop> Draglor,  how so?
[12:40] <unop> Draglor, and what would you use instead?
[12:41] <th0r> petx: check these urls also....http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/susenovell-60/updated-network-manager-now-firefox-stuck-in-offline-mode-472478/ and https://answers.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/firefox-3.0/+question/31925
[12:41] <ViperMax> gnucash i for personal economy.. I meant something toward small business
[12:41] <Draglor> cron
[12:41] <unop> Draglor, hmm, now that's overkill
[12:41] <petx> mobi-sheep, hmm.. I'm going there...
[12:41] <Draglor> a script running the whole time is less overkill than a script ran by cron?
[12:41] <Draglor> well .. I have another opinion about that
[12:42] <unop> Draglor, a script has finer granularity (less than one minute) than cron
[12:42] <sipior> Draglor: well, unop's script sleeps most of the time, it's hardly running constantly. is cron's one-minute resolution sufficient for your purposes?
[12:42] <aethelrick> I don't have need for it myself ViperMax but their site does say "Small business accounting" maybe it's worth another look
[12:42] <rob_p> Draglor, I
[12:42] <Draglor> unop: I know ... but normally you don't want to check for a daemon more than once a minute
[12:42] <rob_p> Draglor, I'm with unop on this one.
[12:43] <ViperMax> I will aethelrick-- tnx
[12:43] <C-S-B> is there an easier way to get bluetooth phone tethering working without installing blueman, i don't regret my choice to install blueman but I would have thought there was an easy way....
[12:43] <unop> Draglor, normally? what is normal?
[12:43] <Draglor> sipior, rob_p, unop: It wasn't me asking that question. ;) I
[12:44] <unop> Draglor, but i tell you what isn't normal .. supybot forking into the background :)
[12:44] <Draglor> unop: supybot should not fork?
[12:44] <Draglor> should it run in fg? why?
[12:45] <Noble> My mother managed to pull the power on my server during a thunderstorm even though I have UPS. I told her to put it back in and turn the computer back on, however the ssh deamon does not seem to start. Do I need to log in to my user account in GDM to get it to start? Never experienced that before.
[12:45] <unop> Draglor, to allow something like this to run as intended.  while true; do supybot; done
[12:45] <imc_> jrib just checking that you saw/care that pastebin link I left?
[12:45] <Draglor> unop: this is not intended
[12:45] <aleksander> I'd like to ask for help: I have over a hundred small text files and would like to put them all in one file but need to put an empty line between them in this file, anybody knows what I could use for that? I joined them all by: cat *.txt > file.txt
[12:45] <Draglor> just try it using any daemon you want
[12:45] <jrib> imc_: no sorry (walking out the door)
[12:45] <imc_> kk, thanks
[12:45] <Draglor> supybot is a daemon .. every daemons forks into bg .. thats what a daemon does
[12:46] <unop> aleksander,   { for i in *.txt; do cat "$i"; echo; done } > yourbigfile
[12:46] <aleksander> thanks unop
[12:46] <unop> aleksander,  sorry, missed a semicolon.   { for i in *.txt; do cat "$i"; echo; done; } > yourbigfile
[12:46] <rabten> remoteCTR1: i get an error message when i open up Synaptic
[12:46] <aleksander> I'll try it in a sec
[12:47] <mobi-sheep> aleksander: Better make a backup too.
[12:47] <mobi-sheep> Err... Nevermind.  No damages being done.
[12:47] <Noble> Again. Do I need to log into GDM to get sshd to start?
[12:47] <unop> mobi-sheep, this doesn't clobber the originals ..
[12:47] <mobi-sheep> unop: Yeah.  I realized that. :3
[12:48] <Draglor> Noble: No, just add it to your runlevel
[12:48] <mobi-sheep> !boot | Noble
[12:48] <Noble> Draglor: Is that not default for ubuntu to run sshd before gdm?
[12:48] <rabten> remoteCTR1: E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem. E: _cache->open failed, please report
[12:49] <Draglor> Noble: sshd has nothing to do with your GUI ..
[12:49] <rabten> remoteCTR1: that's what i get when i try to open syanptic
[12:49] <Draglor> Noble: Just add sshd to your startup (using rcconf i.e.)
[12:49] <petx> mobi-sheep, th0r, toolkit.network-manager.disable = true solved it... thanks again... ^^
[12:50] <Noble> Draglor: sshd is already in the startup, however It does not start :P Guess I'll have to phone home and get somebody to check
[12:50] <Draglor> maybe it's down? or do you have a firewalling router blocking the port?
[12:50] <th0r> petx:  google is your friend <smile>
[12:51] <remoteCTR1> rabten, do what it says then;)
[12:51] <rabten> remoteCTR1: ok
[12:51] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, back, whats the status?
[12:51] <back2arie> Anybpdy from Indonesia??
[12:52] <bazhang> !id | back2arie
[12:52] <petx> ubottu, wah... ad yg bahasa indonesia yaa...??
[12:52] <mrasty_> hello
[12:53] <mrasty_> does anyone know how to burn a cdi disc using ubuntu 9.10
[12:53] <taha> hi all
[12:53] <aleksander> jeez, you're great unop
[12:53] <aleksander> thanks a lot
[12:53] <unop> aleksander, :) yw
[12:54] <petx> ubottu, bro... yg indo koq sepi y...??
[12:54] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i send it to you in private check
[12:54] <aleksander> unop: where did you learn this cool stuff, I want too
[12:54] <hemanth>  is there a way to multitrack within sox. To play / rec two ore more files at the same time. Ecasound can do this.
[12:54] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, ok, gimme a sec
[12:54] <kdub> ubottu, you're plenty smart enough
[12:54] <bazhang> kdub petx /msg ubottu
[12:54] <tehDarkAura> wow, lots of people in here !
[12:55] <mrasty_> does anyone know how to burn a multi session cdi disc using ubuntu 9.10
[12:55] <tehDarkAura> is there a walk through available for enable root access to the GUI ?
[12:55] <unop> aleksander,  it comes about after trying quite a few things out - here's a good place to start.  http://mywiki.wooledge.org/BashGuide
[12:55] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, just the same error... i suppose you have already tried another blank cd?
[12:56] <sipior> tehDarkAura: that...is a bad idea. you can run individual programs as root via gksudo, however.
[12:56] <hero1900> ya i do
[12:56] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i did try
[12:56] <tehDarkAura> yea, it's a bad idea, i know ;) i'm > then noob ;)
[12:57] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 it was working but suddenly stop
[12:57] <aleksander> that's a very good starting point, once again many thanks - i needed it urgently
[12:57] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, humm... i frankly spoken cannot tell dude, might even be that your drive is broken...
[12:58] <Draglor> But it's much to read aleksander ;) be patient
[12:59] <remoteCTR1> is there a way to access this keyring-manager?
[12:59] <th0r> aleksander: you might also look at the linux documentation project...I think it is tldp.org
[13:00] <tehDarkAura> n/m i  got it -- enable root login @ gui http://barot.wordpress.com/2009/01/16/login-as-a-root-from-gui-for-ubuntu-810/
[13:00] <aleksander> I've already read many man pages, but bash is probably more than I've ever read to date ;)
[13:00] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i will check in windows if it worked then it is ubuntu problem
[13:00] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, most likely:)
[13:01] <foot> Hello, I have a problem with gparted, I have created an extended partition but I can only one logical partition inside, when I try to create another I have an error. please help me
[13:01] <Jimi_Neutral> Hi ALL
[13:01] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 ok really thanks for your time
[13:02] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, my pleasure:)
[13:03] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 ops i think its working
[13:03] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, whut now in windows or ubuntu?
[13:03] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 in ubuntu
[13:03] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, well problem solved then? :D
[13:03] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, what did you change?
[13:04] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i only uncecked the filesystem tag content
[13:04] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, err... the what?
[13:04] <petx> how can I set my ip to dual IP... in different subnet??
[13:05] <hero1900> their is a taq in baking called filesystem
[13:05] <hero1900> it include two check boxes i unchecked them
[13:05] <foot> Hello, I have a problem with gparted, I have created an extended partition but I can only create one logical partition inside, when I try to create another I have an error. please help me
[13:06] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, err.. dont exactly know what you mean now, but if it helped probnlem solved:D
[13:06] <hemanth>  is there a way to multitrack within sox. To play / rec two ore more files at the same time. Ecasound can do this.
[13:06] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 it is really very weird i want to know the reason
[13:06] <remoteCTR1> foot, whats the error?
[13:07] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, in that case i suggest you employ the documentation/google;)
[13:07] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i will give you exactly what i have done
[13:07] <remoteCTR1> hero1900,  ok
[13:07] <foot> remoteCTR1, the device apparantly does not exist
[13:07] <hero1900> :)
[13:07] <sipior> petx: if i understand your question correctly, you can specify an alias interface using a colon: ifconfig eth0:0 <ip address> netmask ...
[13:08] <petx> sipior, sry.. my english is bad...
[13:08] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 something called joilet i did unchecked it
[13:08] <Brdman> anybody here?
[13:08] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 and rock ridge
[13:08] <remoteCTR1> joliet ah ok i see, why did you check that in the first place?
[13:08] <hero1900> i did not
[13:08] <grawity> I'd keep Joliet enabled :/
[13:09] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i did not so tell me what was it??
[13:09] <Brdman> Can anybody help me out, i just installed ubunto latest version on my laptop, but i cant connect to my xp workgroup via network cable
[13:09] <imc_> Anyone able to help with my pesky gnome-panel issue? xsession-errors at http://paste.ubuntu.com/198460
[13:09] <pv2b> Is there any way to add another LUKS passphrase to a system which is booted, with the encrypted filesystem mounted, without knowing the pre-existing LUKS passphrase? (Got a machine here which is booted with an encrypted partition, that nobody can seem to remember the password to, and therefore don't dare reboot the machine or unmount the partition. argh.)
[13:09] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, i dont even get to see that option, how do you open that iso for burning?
[13:09] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, it is something that has to do with the filesystem but dont ask me any further fo i dunno;)
[13:10] <pv2b> (yes, I know, I could dump out the raw filesystem onto another drive and re-encrypt it, i'd rather avoid that if possible.)
[13:10] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i only try it on data dvd
[13:10] <jetienne> q. How can i install another language in open office ?
[13:10] <jetienne> like i got english and would like to get french
[13:10] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 but i will try to see if this option in image
[13:11] <Joeseph> Brdman: What are you trying to do?  Are you trying to find a windows share folder, or share one of Ubuntu's folders?
[13:11] <Brdman> no, just connet to a workgroup
[13:12] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, ah, ok, but if you wantr to burn an iso that is the wrong option anyways, you need to go to tools and then click on burn iso
[13:12] <remoteCTR1> hero1900, otherwise that disk wont boot
[13:12] <Brdman> eg in windows i can add my lappy to a workgroup and bang i can use the net and network
[13:12] <foot> remoteCTR1, I says An error occurred while applying the operation. When I look at the details I see "the device apparently does not exist; did you specify it correctly?
[13:13] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 ya i know now i have solved the problem for data dvds but still have problem for images
[13:13] <Joeseph> Brdman: Well, I don't see why you need to be in a workgroup unless you need to either find a shared folder (and you don't have to be in a workgroup for that if I remember right) or set up a windows share on your Ubuntu machine.
[13:13] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 i cannot see that option and i still have the problem
[13:13] <grawity> Brdman: You don't need any "workgroups" - usually just connecting the cable is enough (and sometimes, setting the IP address).
[13:13] <foot> remoteCTR1, But the first logical partition always works, this happens  with the rest..
[13:14] <Brdman> how do i do that
[13:14] <remoteCTR1> foot, that is really weird, what says google?
[13:14] <Brdman> what i did was already connected the cable
[13:14] <Joeseph> Brdman: Are you connected to the internet on your Ubuntu machine?
[13:14] <Brdman> which is why in asking questions here
[13:14] <Brdman> no
[13:14] <ufk> hello
[13:14] <zuluu> hi guys, does anyone know what will happen if i accidentally assigned the same ip address on two different computers on a network?
[13:14] <Brdman> this is my xp
[13:14] <Brdman> comp
[13:14] <foot> remoteCTR1, I cant find anything on google, what should I look for?
[13:14] <Joeseph> Brdman: So you're trying to connect to the internet with your ubuntu machine.   That's your problem, yes?
[13:14] <Brdman> yes
[13:15] <remoteCTR1> foot, best enter the precise error message
[13:15] <ufk> i'm trying to configure postfix to work with gmail, i use the tutorial from http://prantran.blogspot.com/2007/01/getting-postfix-to-work-on-ubuntu-with.html and i encountered a problem that after a postfix restart i get the error message "postfix: fatal: config variable inet_interfaces: host not found: all". any ideas where it comes from ? my inet_interfaces is set to all and i have eth0 up and running so it shouldn't be a problem
[13:15] <Joeseph> Brdman: How are you connecting to the internet?
[13:15] <Brdman> Im on irc via my windows xp computer desktop, my problem is with the ubuntu laptop
[13:15] <sipior> zuluu: there will be some confusion :-) if it's a switched network, you may find that one of the machines behaves almost normally, and the other gets little traffic at all. and then you'll start noticing weird timeouts and login failures...best to avoid the situation, really.
[13:16] <Brdman> only have 1 lan cable
[13:16] <Joeseph> Brdman: I understand that, I'm asking what your internet connection to your ubuntu machine is.... Wireless, Ethernet,....
[13:17] <zuluu> sipior, thanks, i accidentally assigned the same ip to 2 dif pcs and from then forward i could no longer connect them to this machine...
[13:17] <Brdman> it has ethernet and wireless
[13:17] <sylvanus_> Hey does anyone know why Gyachi won't connect to yahoo?
[13:17] <remoteCTR1> ufk, maybe this can help: http://www.mail-archive.com/newbie@linux-mandrake.com/msg108583.html
[13:17] <Brdman> but the wireless button on my machine isnt working the wy it did in xp yesterday
[13:17] <Joeseph> Brdman: These may be of help too: https://help.ubuntu.com/7.04/internet/C/connect-to-internet.html      https://help.ubuntu.com/8.04/internet/C/connect.html
[13:17] <Brdman> brb gonna read it
[13:18] <Brdman> have to dc for now, il be back
[13:18] <ufk> remoteCTR1: i'll read, thanks
[13:18] <remoteCTR1> ufk, np
[13:18] <Joeseph> Brdman: Are you trying to connect to your network with an ethernet cord, or wirelessly?
[13:18] <Brdman> cord
[13:18] <sipior> zuluu: if you're maintaining a number of machines, consider using a central dhcp server, to prevent this sort of collision from occurring in future.
[13:19] <remoteCTR1> ufk, if not, google returns quite some hits for that error message
[13:19] <sylvanus_> it keeps on going back and forth from connected to disconnected and then tells me the connections timed out?
[13:19] <ufk> remoteCTR1: i know.. i already checked it for the last hour, i already found the site that you provided but i didn't went through all the posts.. i'll do that now
[13:20] <SandGorgon> hi guys.. my vps slice was hacked and I have a /sbin/ttyload backdoor... however it wont let me rm it. what's going on
[13:20] <nectar> is there anyone here who has a driver for Canon PIXMA iP1800 ?
[13:20] <zuluu> sipior, i have 4 pcs, 3 ubuntu and 1 xp - this pc is the gateway (it has 3 NICs). i am trying ip masquerading, samba and succeeded at the beginning but somewhere along the way, borked the configuration and now i dont know where the problem is coming from. only 2 computers can connect to the internet atm. This one and an ubuntu pc connected via crossover.
[13:20] <Brdman> lol what, i thought linux was unhakable, more secure than windows?
[13:20] <Brdman> eg as all the claims
[13:20] <sylvanus_> can anyone please help? (dumb in Maryland)
[13:21] <remoteCTR1> Brdman, not if you invite somebody in...
[13:21] <indus> sylvanus_: yes
[13:21] <erUSUL> !ask | sylvanus_
[13:21] <PointMan> is there a slick way to rename my username?
[13:21] <opossum-oisif> Does somebody know why fetchmailconf doesn't work by default
[13:21] <Brdman> well then that makes it the same as windows because you only get a virus if you let somebody in
[13:21] <Brdman> brb
[13:21] <remoteCTR1> Brdman, definitely disagree on that...
[13:22] <sylvanus_> I just downloaded Gyachi so I can use my Webcam in chat and it won't connect to yahoo
[13:22] <indus> !gyachi
[13:22] <indus> !yahoo
[13:22] <indus> bah
[13:22] <indus> sylvanus_: have you set username password server settings correct?
[13:23] <sylvanus_> yes I have
[13:23] <petx> sipior, I'm confused...
[13:24] <sipior> zuluu: well, sort out your ip collision problem first. then make sure your nat table is configured to relay packets on all of the interfaces you forwarded to the outside.
[13:24] <sipior> petx: regarding what?
[13:24] <sylvanus_> I can connect with pidgin but not Gyachi?
[13:24] <mbostwick> sylvanus_: I can't get to yahoo ether
[13:24] <petx> sipior, using the colon...
[13:24] <mbostwick> sylvanus_: right now
[13:24] <zuluu> sipior, forwarding is right now the least of my problems. i cant even ping the 2 other pcs now.
[13:24] <indus> sylvanus_: gyachi is specifically for yahoo so i dont know why it wont connect
[13:25] <ideamonk> Does anyone here have experience with Ubuntu on Macbook Pro ?
[13:25] <sylvanus_> wow so it's not just me huh?
[13:25] <indus> sylvanus_: is this today's issue then?
[13:25] <sipior> zuluu: right, get those interface addresses fixed :-)
[13:25] <sylvanus_> I guess
[13:25] <mbostwick> sylvanus_: I can't get on pidgin which is strange....
[13:25] <sipior> petx: how are you attempting to set the aliased ip address?
[13:26] <zuluu> sipior, they are already set to different ips.
[13:26] <mbostwick> hold on brb
[13:26] <sylvanus_> I'm kinda new to all this. I can connect with pidgin but i can't use cam with it
[13:26] <indus> sylvanus_: use skype :)
[13:26] <Joeseph> sylvanus_: I don't think pidgin supports video chat.
[13:26] <grawity> indus: Yecch
[13:26] <grawity> Joeseph: It doesn't.
[13:27] <mbostwick> ok looks like I can get to yahoo now :)
[13:27] <indus> grawity: whats yecch?
[13:27] <indus> sylvanus_: try now
[13:27] <sylvanus_> ok brb
[13:27] <indus> sylvanus_: maybe wasa server issue
[13:27] <petx> sipior, I dont know about aliased ip address... maybe I understand... I want to set my IP to different subnet... one 255.255.0.0... and another 255.255.255.0
[13:27] <grawity> indus: An expression with a meaning similar to "Yuck" or "eww".
[13:27] <indus> grawity: why?
[13:27] <Brdman2> ok well somebody is using my nick but anyway
[13:28] <grawity> sylvanus_: Pidgin doesn't support webcams, and Pidgin seems to have problems with Yahoo IM - /join #pidgin
[13:28] <Brdman2> i tried both links and neither helped
[13:28] <Joeseph> Brdman2:   http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Linux_computer_viruses        just so you know
[13:28] <sipior> petx: well, those are netmasks, not subnets exactly.
[13:28] <grawity> Brdman2: You yourself are using that kick
[13:28] <grawity> *nick
[13:28] <indus> grawity:pidgin has no problems with yahoo, i have used it for 3 years without issues
[13:28] <petx> sipior, ups... sry...
[13:28] <Brdman2> well my irc doesnt like me dcing the cable
[13:28] <Brdman2> Open System ? Administration ? Networking.
[13:28] <petx> sipior, I meant netmask...
[13:28] <grawity> indus: See the topic of #pidgin - "Yahoo may be having problems"
[13:28] <indus> grawity: if u are behind a nat then that could give issues
[13:28] <sipior> petx: perhaps you can explain what your current configuration is, and then mention what you want to change?
[13:28] <Brdman2> it says system> admin> networking, well i cant see networking but only network onnectios
[13:29] <indus> grawity: its FUD
[13:29] <Joeseph> Brdman2:  Sorry, I've forgotten....   are you trying to do wireless or ethernet?
[13:29] <petx> sipior, ok... I'll explain my config.
[13:29] <indus> grawity: msn might as they keep changing things all the time
[13:29] <Brdman2> ethernet
[13:29] <Brdman2> this is so much harder than i expected
[13:30] <eoch> anyone recommend an app that I can run two compare files and eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwwany know of an application that would let me compare file systems on two different machines that would include permissions so I can see if there is anything different between the two?
[13:30] <Joeseph> Brdman2: What are you plugging it into?   I've always just plugged my ethernet in and went.
[13:30] <xiaocai> hello
[13:30] <janie_jane> @search James Scaife
[13:30] <eoch> oops sorry for the extra stuff
[13:30] <indus> eoch: that was fun
[13:30] <Brdman2> alright, lan cable into the slot,
[13:30] <Brdman2> ...
[13:30] <petx> sipior, my IP is 192.168.2.250, netmask 255.255.255.0... it's my ISP network...
[13:30] <sylvanus_> it won't connect still! could it be that I have to enter the proxy server? or does it use it by default ?
[13:30] <indus> sylvanus_: are you behind a NAT?
[13:30] <tunnlrat> Quick Question, i have three HDD's in one computer, can i have a separate version of linux installed on each say Ubuntu on one, Fedora on another and Mandriva on the third??
[13:30] <sylvanus_> what is a nat?
[13:30] <xiaocai> ubuntu  is great
[13:30] <indus> sylvanus_: use auto proxy detection
[13:31] <petx> sipior, then I want to add the IP on netmask 255.255.0.0... It's another network...
[13:31] <sylvanus_> ok let me try again
[13:31] <indus> sylvanus_: i mean are you behind some proxy?
[13:32] <Joeseph> Brdman2: Yes, System -> Preferences -> Network connections | should be where you want to look at.    I might not be able to help, but I'll take a look if you post the output of the command iwconfig to pastebin.
[13:32] <Brdman2> agaig, im pro at windows, total noob at ubuntu
[13:32] <sylvanus_> I not really sure what a proxy is and how to find that out?
[13:32] <Brdman2> again<
[13:33] <Brdman2> if your helping me, pm me instead, much easier to read
[13:33] <indus> sylvanus_: what kind of internet connection do u have
[13:33] <sipior> petx: why not just use another /24 network? this is a home network, i presume?
[13:33] <Joeseph> Brdman2: I don't want to pm.     If you want help, you'll stay in here.  Besides, other people can help here.
[13:33] <sipior> petx: you can just try something like: "sudo ifconfig eth0:0 192.168.0.1 netmask 255.255.255.0"
[13:33] <sylvanus_> me brdman?
[13:34] <sylvanus_> Cable internet through broadstripe
[13:34] <indus> sylvanus_: if ithe user wants to address you he will use your name like iam using
[13:34] <sipior> petx: also make sure that an appropriate entry for the second subnet can be found in your routing table (/sbin/route -n)
[13:34] <sylvanus_> ok
[13:34] <indus> just type whom you want to address and press tab to auto complete
[13:34] <Brdman2> but its hard to keep track of every question, im trying to borwse the net for similar problems and i have to stare at the screen to see whos talking to me
[13:34] <petx> sipior, hmm... one is my ISP network... another is my campus network... so we use different networks...
[13:35] <indus> sylvanus_: hmm not sure what type that is
[13:35] <grawity> Brdman2: Doesn't your client hilight messages that start with your nick? (Like this.)
[13:35] <indus> sylvanus_: but its ok, anyways i havent used gyachi so iam not sure how to solve your problem
[13:35] <sipior> petx: i see. then i assume you're using dhcp to get an address on the campus network? you can try dhclient eth0:0.
[13:35] <sylvanus_> I feel so stupid
[13:35] <indus> sylvanus_: why?
[13:35] <Brdman2> it says omebody is talking to me but it doesnt highlight anything, all writing looks the same
[13:36] <sipior> petx: although in this case, how are you connected to each network? are you sure you need an aliased interface?
[13:36] <petx> sipior, yups
[13:36] <sylvanus_> because I can't get things to work
[13:37] <indus> sylvanus_: wait
[13:37] <Brdman2> all i wanted to do was stay up and brose youtube in bed, now im gonna stay up all night figuring out how ubuntu works
[13:37] <Joeseph> Brdman2: Your IRC client aside for now (use something else maybe...) I won't be able to help unless you post the output of iwconfig to pastebin.   I reccomend using a flashdrive to get it from your ubuntu machine, since it's not connected.
[13:37] <indus> sylvanus_: what is the yahoo server in connection settings
[13:37] <mib_o6egw3k8> Any Opera users here?
[13:37] <Brdman2> and how do i even iwconfig, its not like in windows
[13:37] <sylvanus_> hold on gotta open it back up
[13:38] <petx> sipior, I need the 255.255.255.0 to connect to internet... and 255.255.0.0 to my network... I hope u understand what I said... T_T
[13:38] <petx> sipior, sry my English is so bad...
[13:38] <indus> sylvanus_: i suggest you use kopete messenger, will let you voice /video chat with yahoo
[13:39] <mib_o6egw3k8> How about Google Gears? Any google gears users?
[13:39] <Joeseph> Brdman2: Go to Applications -> Accessories -> Terminal    .    Type 'iwconfig' at the prompt.     Copy and paste that into a text file. (you can use gedit at the terminal to bring up a program to do so.) put that on your flashdrive,  and post it to http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/  Then give me the link.
[13:39] <tunnlrat> Can you multiboot linux Versions using three different HDD's? and three different versions of Linux?
[13:39] <sylvanus_> it says proxy port 80
[13:39] <tdn> How do I force my CPU to use 2.5GHz instead of 800MHz (powersave)?
[13:39] <Brdman2> wtf i change to ethernet and it automatically goes bak to loopback interface
[13:40] <Brdman2> ok thats for the adivce but i want to sleep
[13:40] <Brdman2> dont have time to backwards engineer ubuntu just to use the internet
[13:40] <petx> sipior, hmm... emergency call... w8 a moment... ^^
[13:40] <Brdman2> thanks for your time
[13:40] <indus> brdman2:wait
[13:40] <indus> oops
[13:40] <indus> :(
[13:40] <Boohbah> tdn: select the "performance" setting in CPU frequency applet
[13:41] <Joeseph> indus: He was complaining a lot anyway............
[13:41] <Are-> o_o. I installed ubuntu netbook remix (or well, the netbook remix part through apt-get)
[13:41] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touc
[13:41] <Are-> but I can't get it to stop launching on Xfce
[13:41] <indus> Joeseph: thats ok it can be annoying initially to see all things diff
[13:41] <Are-> it won't launch on Gnome though
[13:41] <Are-> :S
[13:41] <natthu> i have wirelesss card on my laptop
[13:41] <indus> Joeseph: i remember i too was pi**ed in the beginning
[13:42] <natthu> please help
[13:42] <Joeseph> indus: Yes.  I agree.   Gotta be nice to the new people, or else they won't come back.......
[13:42] <indus> Joeseph: ya :)
[13:42] <Are-> Anyone got any idea why I can't remove the netbook remix? o_O
[13:42] <indus> ok i got to have a cigarette
[13:42] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:42] <mib_o6egw3k8> Hey guys. Theres a Google Code issue thread I'm trying to raise attention for. If you guys would star it. That would be really awesome of you. http://code.google.com/p/gears/issues/detail?id=15&q=opera&colspec=Version%20Milestone%20Owner%20ID%20Summary%20Component
[13:42] <indus> 10 min
[13:43] <Are-> ...okay
[13:43] <indus> !internet
[13:43] <mib_o6egw3k8> Thanks
[13:43] <tunnlrat> !multiboot
[13:43] <Are-> A simple "No" would have gone a long way.
[13:43] <tunnlrat> >.< darn it
[13:43] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:43] <indus> !info | internetsharing
[13:43] <mib_o6egw3k8> Ubuntu users are the best :)
[13:44] <Pici> !dualboot | tunnlrat
[13:44] <indus> natthu: hi
[13:44] <tunnlrat> oooo seet ty ty
[13:44] <natthu> hi
[13:44] <tunnlrat> hrmm
[13:44] <tunnlrat> I don't know that those will hold what i am looking for lol
[13:44] <tunnlrat> I want to dual boot different versions of linux
[13:44] <natthu> indus : can you help me ?
[13:45] <silv3r_m00n> hi there
[13:45] <silv3r_m00n> in kdevelop when ever I run a project a konsole popups...how can it be stopped ?
[13:45] <Are-> no one has any idea how I can remove netbook remix, or at least prevent the netbook remix specific parts from launching?
[13:46] <Joeseph> tunnlrat: That gets a bit complicated.   The easiest way to do it (Though I haven't done it myself) is to have 2 versions of grub, each on the MBR of seperate drives, and chainload into the secondary one from the primary one.
[13:46] <sipior> Are-: it's best to wait ten minutes or so before asking your question again. you should give folks time to read and think about your question, make sure the solution is correct &cet.
[13:46] <freeanshu> how can i chage the grub splash screem?
[13:46] <natthu> freeanshu : use startup-manager
[13:47] <natthu> indus : u still thr ?
[13:47] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:47] <freeanshu> the GRUB menu
[13:47] <hareldvd> Since the last update I made, in nautilus, when I try to open windows network I get after some delay: "Failed to retrieve share list from server". As far as I can tell, no changes were done to any configuration files. only OS updates.
[13:47] <Are-> sipior: I like to repeat myself when I'm asking for help and no one replies.
[13:47] <tunnlrat> Joeseph: interesting i will let you know how it goes then, I am running Ubuntu atm but i'd like to see how Mandriva works and may try Opensuse or Debian as well, had nothing but problems with Fedora
[13:48] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:48] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:48] <sipior> Are-: when people do that, my first instinct is to ignore them. perhaps that's why everyone is ignoring you? or do you normally find that displaying poor manners gets you better service? (and from volunteers, no less)
[13:48] <natthu> can anyone help ?
[13:49] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:49] <hwilde> Are-, insert livecd, reinstall.  that will clean it up for you.
[13:49] <Are-> hwilde: Insert the livecd where exactly? Its a netbook ;)
[13:49] <mattmmilo> hello
[13:49] <mattmmilo> im having some net speed issues in jaunty
[13:49] <Are-> I could try to reinstall though, but I was hoping to find a different way :/
[13:50] <mattmmilo> i've been reading stuff on the ubuntu forums and I've tried editing nsswitch.conf file and resolv.conf file but the issue still seems to persist
[13:50] <Joeseph> tunnlrat: Yeah, I tried Fedora too.  Well, it's on my slave HD, but I've booted it up like.... once..... Good luck with the dualboot though.   What I ended up doing was just copying the slave OS's menu.lst line and adding it to the bottom of Ubuntu's men.lst. That way, I could just copy and paste again when the Slave OS updated.
[13:50] <mattmmilo> any ideas?
[13:50] <natthu> v
[13:50] <natthu> hi ... i m using ubuntu 9.04 ... i have wired ethernet connection on my laptop .. i need to share this connection and use internet on my ipod touch ..... i have wireless card on the laptop
[13:51] <hwilde> Are-, you could've reinstalled already in the time you've wasted here.
[13:51] <Joeseph> natthu: Please stop asking so often....     What do you mean by sharing your wireless?
[13:51] <natthu> joeseph : i want to access internet from my ipod ....  internet which is connected to the laptop thru wired ethernet
[13:52] <natthu> srry btw
[13:52] <tunnlrat> Joeseph: Alright i'll have to keep that in mind, I may just try run the others from live-cd and see how they run, at this point i have made a full switch from windows xp and vista and only run ubuntu, i am very impressed with it
[13:52] <Are-> reinstalling will take ages to get everything the way it was.
[13:52] <hareldvd> which package contains smbfind?
[13:52] <sylvanus_> I have Kopete now thanks peeps!
[13:52] <mobi-sheep> natthu: You don't have wireless router?
[13:52] <natthu> nope
[13:53] <natthu> i have a dlink router
[13:53] <Joeseph> natthu: Nah, that's fine...   Umm.... I personally didn't know you could even do that. I thought you would need a router of some sort.   Search google while others are thinking.
[13:53] <natthu> i have googled and tried a lot of things
[13:53] <natthu> i tried setting up ad hoc network
[13:53] <mobi-sheep> natthu: I don't use iPod myself but I know they do have Wifi which is often used for Internet.  If you don't have wireless router, how would your iPod connect to Internet?
[13:54] <Are-> natthu: What kind of iPod? iPod touch?
[13:54] <Hodapp> I miss my 3rd gen iPod... damn guy stole it at gunpoint!
[13:54]  * Hodapp shakes fist @ ghetto
[13:54] <natthu> mobi-sheep : i can use the wireless card in laptop for that
[13:54] <natthu> itouch .. yeah
[13:54] <natthu> i did it in xp
[13:54] <natthu> i hate windows though :(
[13:55] <tunnlrat> natthu: sounds like your comming from a windows persepective on that problem, letting one computer allow others to connect through it to the internet, you'd have to make sure in linux your sharing your internet connection
[13:55] <tunnlrat> natthu: and i am not sure how to do that in linux yet
[13:55] <natthu> ihmmm
[13:55] <tunnlrat> In essence Natthu is trying to use his laptop as a router
[13:55] <natthu> rite
[13:55] <Are-> hmm, ima try to remove xfce and install it again, as its gone in gnome currently.
[13:55] <Hodapp> I've done this before in Linux but I have never figured out how to easily do it
[13:55] <unop> !inetsharing
[13:55] <tunnlrat> hehe
[13:56] <tunnlrat> ahhh there you go
[13:56] <natthu> i ubottu : thnx i ll try that
[13:56] <tunnlrat> windows has to many wizards that do all the work for you lol, linux is not yet so ummm user friendly yet?
[13:56] <tunnlrat> linux = a thinkers OS
[13:56] <indus> ya internet con sharing is a pain isnt it
[13:57] <unop> tunnlrat, wizards have tunnel vision!
[13:57] <tunnlrat> haha
[13:57] <natthu> i have been using linux for the last 3 years now ... i am a fairly well knowing guy ...
[13:57] <indus> anyways a GUI is under development
[13:57] <Joeseph> natthu: I didn't even know you could do that with a wireless card.... Now I'm gonna have to figure out how to do it myself!
[13:57] <natthu> :)
[13:57] <indus> natthu: try gufw
[13:58] <indus> !gufw
[13:58] <indus> ufw
[13:58] <indus> !ufw
[13:58] <FloodBot1> indus: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[13:58] <BigJB> natthu: have you looked at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs/ShareEthernetConnectionThroughWireless
[13:58] <indus> FloodBot1: sorry
[13:58] <indus> :P
[13:58] <Joeseph> I prefer firestarter myself. That's what I used, if I remember correctly.
[13:58] <tunnlrat> I've done what hes talking about in windows before i even ran a windows box at one point cause i was afraid to run linux, I always tried Fedora-core and Red-hat they stopped me from comming to linux, but unbuntu made me switch 100%
[13:58] <natthu> bigjb :
[13:58] <natthu> thnx
[13:58] <natthu> let me try a few things
[13:58] <indus> Joeseph: firestarter is not under development i heard ,unsafe due to various bugs
[13:59] <tunnlrat> natthu: just make sure if your using internet sharring through your wifi card you protect it like you would with a router
[13:59] <Joeseph> indus: Eh.   Unsafe..... I prefer to live on the dangerous side of life anyway. :)
[13:59] <indus> Joeseph: but ya i heard you can share conection easy using it
[13:59] <indus> Joeseph: i mean gufw is the replacement now officially in ubuntu
[13:59] <Joeseph> indus: I'll have to take a look
[13:59] <indus> just like that crappy empathy will be in karmic
[14:00] <indus> anyways i gtg now
[14:00] <indus> bye all
[14:00] <natthu> thnx indus
[14:00] <tunnlrat> seeya Indus
[14:01] <indus> seeeyaa or maybe ill stay and solve one more problem :D
[14:01] <tunnlrat> lol
[14:01] <indus> or create a new one :P
[14:01] <sylvanus_> I got Kopete and it just says connecting?
[14:01] <tunnlrat> I'm going to go break my computer and try installing Ubuntu Debian and mandriva all at once
[14:01] <kr3wie> lame, I've probs with CS 1.6 on wine, now i cant start wither steam or counter-strike, i could yesterday, what can be the problem :S
[14:01] <indus> sylvanus_: do not enter full yahoo address in username
[14:01] <kr3wie> i get a launch square but then it disappears
[14:01] <indus> sylvanus_: just use username
[14:01] <sylvanus_> how do I change it
[14:02] <indus> sylvanus_: can you connect to yahoo with pidgin?
[14:02] <sylvanus_> yes
[14:02] <indus> sylvanus_: hmm copy same settings for gyachi or kopete
[14:03] <OldEagle> Hello, I have problems installing Ati Radeon drivers on my Jaunty installation. With every try, system hangs after restart after wallpaper is loaded (no taskbars)
[14:04] <mattmmilo> has anyone else experienced uber slow net connections on jaunty
[14:04] <mattmmilo> its a noticable difference between windows and ubuntu
[14:04] <OldEagle> to be precise, screen flashes from wallpaper to black and back 3-4 times after it hangs on wallpaper. Any help would be appreciated, I've already looked it up on the net with no luck
[14:04] <OldEagle> thnx in advance
[14:04] <grawity> mattmmilo: All the internet, or just websites?
[14:04] <kr3wie> ﻿lame, I've probs with CS 1.6 on wine, now i cant start wither steam or counter-strike, i could yesterday, what can be the problem :S Now i can start a launch screen but it dissapears and no game starts..
[14:05] <mattmmilo> well it varies a bit
[14:05] <mattmmilo> websites seem to be ok
[14:05] <quxinot> I just managed to fix my sound after the recent updates to 8.10.  All by myself.  I'm starting to learn !!
[14:05] <mattmmilo> downloads are slow
[14:05] <BenTM> Hi all, have inst. openssh-server and try to connect: "Cennection refused" i do not know why......
[14:05] <mattmmilo> updates via apt are crazy slow
[14:05] <OldEagle> qux ;)
[14:05] <indus> aah too many questions which one do i pick
[14:05] <kr3wie> mine!:D
[14:05] <kr3wie> ^
[14:05] <kr3wie> ﻿lame, I've probs with CS 1.6 on wine, now i cant start wither steam or counter-strike, i could yesterday, what can be the problem :S
[14:05] <indus> BenTM: first try pinging that machine
[14:06] <BenTM> work!
[14:06] <mattmmilo> i tried modify my nsswitch.conf and resolv.conf files as i read on the ubuntu forums they might cause problems
[14:06] <quxinot> i have a ridiculous low-level question for someone with a functional knowledge of ubuntu (really any form of linux know-how would suffice)...
[14:06] <mattmmilo> something to do with long dns resolution
[14:06] <indus> BenTM: using correct username@193.3-whatever
[14:06] <indus> ?
[14:06] <mattmmilo> but it hasnt really helped at all
[14:06] <OldEagle> qux, fire away. I'll try
[14:06] <mattmmilo> grawity, any ideas?
[14:07] <BenTM> use putty
[14:07] <sylvanus_> that was it I just had to remove the full addy thank you so much Indus!!!!!!!
[14:07] <quxinot> OldEagle: i'm making indus crazy for a few, if he slaps me repeatedly then it'll be your turn for insanity
[14:08] <mattmmilo> this is really bumming me out, the speed issue is the only problem im having with ubuntu
[14:08] <indus> heh ok so i solved one question :)
[14:08] <mattmmilo> but its becoming a deal breaker :(
[14:08] <OldEagle> :) fair enough, no rush to serve me insanity drops
[14:10] <kr3wie> ﻿lame, I've probs with CS 1.6 on wine, now i cant start wither steam or counter-strike, i could yesterday, what can be the problem :S
[14:11] <Pici> kr3wie: Have you tried asking in #winehq ?
[14:11] <indus> !synaptic > quxinot
[14:12] <kr3wie> Pici: nope didn't know about a winechannel
[14:12] <kr3wie> btw
[14:12] <kr3wie> @ qnet?
[14:12] <OldEagle> Hello, I have problems installing Ati Radeon drivers on my Jaunty installation. With every try, system hangs after restart after wallpaper is loaded (no taskbars). to be precise, screen flashes from wallpaper to black and back 3-4 times after it hangs on wallpaper. Any help would be appreciated, I've already looked it up on the net with no luck
[14:12] <Pici> kr3wie: No, here on freenode.
[14:14] <adasz> hi my laptop has reached the critical temperature of 115°C and shutdown. How can i chence the max temperature?
[14:14] <OldEagle> adasz, most times this can be done from your bios
[14:14] <OldEagle> still, do not raise that limit.
[14:14] <indus> adasz: get it serviced as soon as possible
[14:15] <adasz> the sensor is defect
[14:15] <OldEagle> I'd lower that limit, clean the air ducts and see what happens
[14:15] <OldEagle> or what indus said :D
[14:15] <adasz> how can i look how high is the temperature?
[14:16] <adasz> i have kde4
[14:16] <indus> OldEagle: hehe yeah
[14:16] <cherva> adasz: I think this is configurable in BIOS
[14:17] <ubuntnew1> hello
[14:17] <adasz> no its from kubuntu because its written in the logs
[14:17] <OldEagle> well... he might be using his laptop on his bed, or some other fabric blocking the ducts
[14:17] <indus> adasz: cherva:service the laptop !
[14:17] <quxinot> hey, i'm using my laptop in bed
[14:17] <quxinot> don't jinx me :D
[14:17] <OldEagle> hehe
[14:17] <indus> laptops are meant to be used in bed
[14:18] <indus> !offtopic
[14:18] <gemilang> help, can anybody give me audio plugin for my musicplayer?
[14:18] <cherva> adasz: +1 for induses tip
[14:18] <quxinot> next idiot question:  Why does my screensaver not display (8.10 on a laptop), no matter what settings i apply, when i'm on battery power?
[14:18] <indus> gemilang: what plugin
[14:19] <indus> gemilang: all plugins are installed automatically on playing music or movie files
[14:19] <gemilang> i dont know, can you suggest
[14:19] <indus> gemilang: which is the player you using and what file are you wanting to play
[14:19] <cherva> quxinot: I'm just guessing, but showing the screensaver requires CPU power to calculate and change the images.... if it is fancy and GPU power too so it will be more economic if it just sits there doing nothing
[14:20] <gemilang> yes, i know. i meant a want to download as a program.
[14:20] <indus> quxinot: cherva:ya bikini screensavers run quite hot
[14:20] <indus> :D
[14:20] <mbostwick> hmmm, in setting the doc root in apache 2 is there some special setting when crossing partitions (its ext3)
[14:20] <quxinot> cherva:  i understand the rationale, i'm just annoyed that i'm not bright enough to make it do what i want anyhow ><
[14:20] <logic> could anybody help me with my wifi network manager on ubuntu 8.10?? i'm not able to connect anymore!!!
[14:20] <OldEagle> I have problems installing Ati Radeon drivers on my Jaunty installation. With every try, system hangs after restart after wallpaper is loaded (no taskbars). To be precise, screen flashes from wallpaper to black and back 3-4 times after it hangs on wallpaper. Any help would be appreciated, I've already looked it up on the net with no luck
[14:20] <quxinot> no boobies on this screensaver!!! (that's for the desktop system...shhhh)
[14:20] <indus> gemilang: do you see an 'add/remove' in your main menu in the sytem
[14:20] <Are-> woo, finally fixed it
[14:20] <Are-> yay
[14:20] <mbostwick>  logic: why can't you connect anymore ?
[14:20] <FiReSTaRT> logic: you had it working before?
[14:20] <gemilang> yes
[14:20] <indus> gemilang: applications/add/remove
[14:21] <indus> gemilang: open it and search for gstreamer-ffmpeg
[14:21] <thyri> is ther any download acceleartor for ubuntu like idm functions?
[14:21] <gemilang> @indus, yes i see
[14:21] <logic> i had some problem during an upgrade and now my applet disappeared and i don't know how to make it come back..
[14:21] <cherva> quxinot: sorry I can't help you with that... I don't have a laptop but I am sure there is a way :)
[14:21] <jmjjg> Hi. I want to compile a custom PHP version for ubuntu. I would like to add some options to the configure script, but i wonder how i could know what options were used to make the stock package.
[14:22] <logic> mbostwick / FiFeSTaRT: the only way i'm able to connect now, is to plug the ethernet cable on my pc..
[14:22] <mbostwick> sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[14:22] <gemilang> @indus, how about if my desktop don't have any internet connection, is that still working?
[14:22] <indus> gemilang: nope sorry
[14:22] <mbostwick> logic is your network manager on ?
[14:22] <Joeseph> logic:  Do you have the rest of your notification area, or are you just missing the network manager?
[14:22] <logic> mbostwick: i really cound't say
[14:22] <FiReSTaRT> logic: looking it up for you :)
[14:22] <indus> gemilang: need to get the system to a network and then download
[14:22] <mbostwick> logic , type in sudo /etc/init.d/NetworkManager start
[14:22] <logic> joeseph: i think that i have no network manager anymore
[14:22] <FiReSTaRT> logic: try sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome
[14:23] <indus> gemilang: unless you are willing to download the codec individually from someplce
[14:23] <logic> ok guys, i'll check now..
[14:23] <FiReSTaRT> ooops
[14:23] <FiReSTaRT> without the -gnome part
[14:23] <gemilang> @indus, ouuuuw. any clue, coz a want install my other desktop in somewhere that not have internet connection
[14:23] <FiReSTaRT> or maybe both.. logic.. try network-manager-gnome as i think it should install the network-manager package automatically
[14:23] <indus> gemilang:right now u have taht system nearby?
[14:24] <indus> gemilang: wait ill give you the file links
[14:24] <mbostwick> logic: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=239178
[14:24] <logic> Firestart: ok
[14:24] <gemilang> @indus, thank you very helpfull
[14:24] <FiReSTaRT> logic: confirmed.. it depends on the actual network-manager
[14:24] <thyri> pls sugest a download accelerator for using in ubuntu...especially for mediafire files
[14:25] <thyri> i get low speeds in wget
[14:25] <logic> FireSTaRT: guys i've typed sudo apt-get install network-manager-gnome and it's telling me that that package is broken.. how can i configure it again?
[14:25] <nectar> hey everyone, my problem is Error: Dependency is not satisfiable: libglib1.2 (>= 1.2.0). how can i install this missing dependencies? http://pastebin.com/d64452deb  it says it is not installed but when i try to ' sudo apt-get install libglib1.2'  is gives me http://pastebin.com/d71730fcf  and also i have  libglib1.2ldbl intalled. any help ?
[14:25] <FiReSTaRT> logic: looking it up :)
[14:25] <logic> FiReSTaRT: oh ok:)
[14:26] <FiReSTaRT> try sudo apt-get upgrade network-manager-gnome
[14:26] <Pici> jmjjg: Check the build log here: https://edge.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/+archive/ppa/+build/957974  and the contents of apt-get source php5,
[14:26] <jmjjg> thanks Pici
[14:26] <mbostwick> logic sudo apt-get check
[14:26] <FiReSTaRT> logic: it might autorepair it and at worst give you something to do while im doing more homework :P
[14:27] <logic> ok guys;)
[14:27] <indus> gemilang: aah need to download too many packages maybe but try this
[14:27] <gemilang> @indus, can you find it?
[14:27] <petx> gemilang, indo??
[14:27] <indus> gemilang: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/gstreamer0.10-ffmpeg
[14:27] <arthur_> how can i tell if i have a ata or ide hard drive?
[14:27] <indus> gemilang: enjoy
[14:27] <logic> i have to restart the system.. see you in a minute guys
[14:27] <OldEagle> I have problems installing Ati Radeon drivers on my Jaunty installation. With every try, system hangs after restart after wallpaper is loaded (no taskbars). To be precise, screen flashes from wallpaper to black and back 3-4 times after it hangs on wallpaper. Any help would be appreciated, I've already looked it up on the net with no luck
[14:27] <tzanger> morning
[14:27] <FiReSTaRT> logic: ok gl
[14:28] <indus> gemilang: at bottom of page, you can find the download link for your system
[14:28] <erUSUL> arthur_: dmesg | grep -i ata
[14:28] <indus> ok gtg bye bye
[14:28] <tzanger> I installed a special kernel for my own testing, and it works fine. However today the update manager is complianing that it can't update the kernel/restricted/etc packages because they're blocked.
[14:28] <indus> gemilang: just take it on a pen drive and install on the other system
[14:28] <ubu1> I have problem with Cnet Tv. I tried to start video on CnetTv. But did not do nothing.
[14:28] <tzanger> it's fine, I want them to be blocked... but how the heck do I tell the dpkg system to ignore them so it doesn't keep telling me I have updates available?
[14:28] <arthur_> that worked thanks....
[14:29] <tzanger> I thought you would echo "my-new-kernel-package hold" | dpkg --set-selections but that doesn't seem to do it
[14:29] <indus> ok guys ill take leave bye now
[14:29] <unop> nectar,  this .deb you are wanting to install depends on some really old packages - are there no newer versions available? a source package perhaps
[14:29] <petx> mobi-sheep, mobi... can u help me...??
[14:30] <nectar> unop, so no way to install it ?
[14:30] <foot> My wifi works on intrepid but I have just installed Jaunty andit doesnt work, should I just install Intrepid or is there something I can do?
[14:30] <mobi-sheep> petx: Me?
[14:30] <FiReSTaRT> foot: chances are you'll have to install the restricted driver again.. system, administration, hardware drivers
[14:31] <unop> nectar, not without seriously breaking ubuntu no
[14:31] <dam0> hello, my screen somtimes goes all weird on me like on xchat somtimes the nicnames fade away, any ideas?
[14:31] <logic> guys everything's ok now:)
[14:31] <petx> mobi-sheep, ya... I dont know who else I can ask for help... ^^
[14:31] <dam0> im running a dell inspiron 9400
[14:31] <FiReSTaRT> logic: great news.. glad it worked for you.. which one was it.. check or upgrade? :)
[14:31] <foot> FiremanEd, I didnt need restricted drivers for wifi on Intrepid
[14:31] <nectar> unop, ok thanks for quick answer
[14:31] <unop> nectar, what's this package supposed to give you? filters for a canon inkjet ?
[14:32] <logic> FireSTaRT: the check command didn't work for me.. maybe the syntax was wrong i  don't know
[14:32] <gemilang> @indus, thank you.
[14:32] <mobi-sheep> petx: What's the issue?
[14:32] <dam0> pe
[14:32] <FiReSTaRT> foot: check anyways... that did the trick for me :P
[14:32] <Joeseph> I can't play the H2G2 game in wine... Can't type in the console.... Any idea?  I've never really had good experiences with wine.
[14:32] <foot> FiremanEd, ok, will try
[14:32] <petx> mobi-sheep, I need to add my IP in different netmask...any clue??
[14:32] <nectar> unop, yes i was trying to set up my printer it is a Canon PIXMA iP1800
[14:32] <FiReSTaRT> logic: i figured that check only checks if the package is broken... upgrade should have more of a kick :P
[14:32] <babalu> hi ; is there a simple way to check the existence of a webpage in a command line ?
[14:32] <sylvanus_> it says I need jasper to video?
[14:33] <sylvanus_> Indus are you still here?
[14:33] <quxinot> ping the webpage ?
[14:33] <mobi-sheep> petx: What for?
[14:33] <dam0> how do i take a screen shot?
[14:33] <ubu1> I have problem with CnetTv. I try to start video on Cnet Tv but it does not work. Please, help me.
[14:34] <tunnlrat> !dualboot
[14:34] <logic> i just used the trick i found on the page that the another user sent me
[14:34] <logic> firestart: i uninstalled network-manager or something like that and reinstalled it
[14:34] <logic> firestart: with this command >>  sudo apt-get install network-manager network-manager-gnome
[14:34] <ubu1> I have problem with CnetTv. I try to start video on Cnet Tv but it does not work. Please, help me.
[14:35] <logic> firestart: i'll check the upgrade method now, so i'll see if everything is well again:)
[14:35] <Joeseph> ubu1: Do you know if you have flash installed?   I think the package is flash-plugin-nonfree
[14:35] <FiReSTaRT> logic, good... well as long as it worked :) well if it's a fresh install it won't have anything to upgrade (at least i don't think so)
[14:35] <foot> FiremanEd, The wired connection also doesnt work...
[14:35] <ubu1> Yes, I have flash.
[14:35] <dam0> here is what my problem looks like: http://i41.tinypic.com/ety89t.png
[14:35] <logic> firestart: exactly..
[14:36] <petx> mobi-sheep, I need to access my neighborhod network...
[14:36] <ubu1> Youtube works fine.
[14:36] <logic> but it's 2 weeks i'm carrying this problem with my pc so i wanted just to check to be sure to not have something recent to install
[14:36] <OldEagle> I have problems installing Ati Radeon drivers on my Jaunty installation. With every try, system hangs after restart after wallpaper is loaded (no taskbars). To be precise, screen flashes from wallpaper to black and back 3-4 times after it hangs on wallpaper. Any help would be appreciated, I've already looked it up on the net with no luck
[14:36] <petx> mobi-sheep, now, I just connect to my ISP network...
[14:36] <FiReSTaRT> foot: now that would be a serious problem... wired connection always worked fine for me on linux ever since slack 6, without any major hassle
[14:36] <gemilang> @indus, which one should download. i'm not understand
[14:36] <Joeseph> ubu1: What are the symptoms; how does it 'not load'?      I just checked, and cnettv works for me.   That's good that youtube is working though, I think.......
[14:37] <mobi-sheep> petx: You might want to try #ubuntu-server as they deal with IP and related.
[14:37] <mbostwick> so im stuck...I can't figure out why apache won't load on a separate partion I just get forbin error
[14:37] <FiReSTaRT> foot: and that included a whole range of hardware... it always just worked for me.. are you sure it's not a hardware issue? are you dualbooting by any chance?
[14:38] <ubu1> The video loads. But then it does not start.
[14:38] <foot> FiremanEd, Yes, I also have Windblows, I will see if it works there
[14:39] <FiReSTaRT> foot: if it does work under doze, i might go as far as backing up /home and reinstalling jaunty.. if that doesn't fix it.. back to intrepid or hardy it is :P
[14:39] <Joeseph> ubu1: No idea. Videos are working for me, albeit a little choppy.    Good luck though.
[14:39] <dam0> my screen is going all weird on me...it looks like this:   what would it be? http://i41.tinypic.com/ety89t.png
[14:39] <ubu1> OK, thanks.
[14:40] <houhou> hi
[14:40] <moep> question: I need to run an rsync job via cron and the source server does not support any type of key authentication, just passwords. what to do?
[14:40] <houhou> I'm in order to buy a notebook DELL
[14:40] <moep> i wouldn’t mind putting the password plaintext into the cronjob even though its a horrible practice, but there’s no critical data involved and its all within my lan.
[14:41] <houhou> Is dell notebook 15n totally compatible with ubuntu?
[14:41] <petllama> quick question, from what i can tell, autofs does not mount a device until the mount point is being accessed, is it possible to have it mount it as soon as the USB HDD is plugged in, rather then when the MP is accessed?
[14:41] <master> hi
[14:41] <gemilang> @indus, i have download on http://gstreamer.freedesktop.org/src/gst-ffmpeg/. is that file an execute program?
[14:41] <ehazlett> greetings...  i am getting the error "mount: special device /dev/path/device " when trying to mount an LVM volume...  any ideas?
[14:41] <FiReSTaRT> houhou: it should be fine, but i'd be careful about dualbooting... had issues with it on dell machines
[14:41] <mbostwick> well that was tricky
[14:42] <mbostwick> I had to have +x all the way to the doc root
[14:42] <mbostwick> for apache
[14:42] <master> lol
[14:42] <FiReSTaRT> houhou, check this page out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=762770
[14:43] <master> hpw do live boot into ubuntu?
[14:43] <FiReSTaRT> houhou it looks like there's a custom image for all n-series dell machines.. not sure what it means but i gave you a good starting point for your homework :)
[14:43] <quxinot> running a live session is a great way to test stuff
[14:44] <SnowDeamon> good day all
[14:44] <houhou> FiReSTaRT i will use only linux
[14:44] <master> ok but won't work
[14:44] <foot> FiremanEd, Seems to work won doze, it was a fresh jaunty install, try again?
[14:45] <FiReSTaRT> foot: yeah.. fresh jaunty and if it doesn't work, back to hardy or intrepid (i'd probably go with hardy under the circumstances lol)
[14:45] <master> f5/f6 won't live boot
[14:45] <glaceman> hi there
[14:45] <glaceman> anybody can chat in pvt please, i need some help
[14:45] <dam0> my screen is going all weird on me...it looks like this:   what would it be? http://i41.tinypic.com/ety89t.png
[14:46] <FiReSTaRT> houhou: looks like you're good to go... the only issue you might experience is no bluetooth after resuming from suspend but thank your lucky stars suspend works in the first place.. doesn't on my hp
[14:46] <quxinot> don't you hate it when you figure out several things in a row and promptly stuff up something easy ?  ><
[14:46] <glaceman> please anybody can chat in pvt, for some help ?
[14:46] <arthur_> what is an apm bios
[14:46] <SnowDeamon> I need to as a Question ... it might seem a bit like a noob question but hy.... i got a linod ubuntu server running and i instaled a GUI and every thing. now i have a tool to run thats windows based. i have wine running on the server but it appears the wine is not accepting the exe. would it be wise to tell the moron that thought of this that it will never work or can one hack good old wine ?
[14:47] <master> i nee dto live boot
[14:47] <houhou> FiReSTaRT thank's
[14:47] <master> linod?
[14:47] <glaceman> i need to know how to show hidden files, in my home folder
[14:47] <foot> FiremanEd, Intrepid used to work fine, I upgraded from jaunty because I wanted to use Giver
[14:48] <SnowDeamon> yes master its a vm server based in dalas texal.
[14:48] <foot> FiremanEd, upgraded from hardy
[14:48] <k3ninho> Can someone point me to the right #ubuntu channel for questions about the 'xorg crack pusher' team? Is there an #ubuntu-xorg?
[14:48] <glaceman> i have a question
[14:48] <FiReSTaRT> foot, another option is to do a fresh install of jaunty.. sometimes the upgrade can be a bit buggy
[14:48] <glaceman> how do i close this channel
[14:48] <geronimo9> glaceman: click View and check the Hidden Folders box.
[14:48] <glaceman> to return to main channel
[14:48] <glaceman> running irssi
[14:48] <master> lol
[14:48] <glaceman> thanks u geronimo9
[14:48] <master> geta mac
[14:48] <glaceman> dont lol at me master :P newbie here
[14:49] <glaceman> hehehe
[14:49] <glaceman> microsoft systems engineer
[14:49] <glaceman> but newbie linux
[14:49] <glaceman> just migrated
[14:49] <FloodBot1> glaceman: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[14:49] <glaceman> ;)
[14:49] <master> mac is better
[14:49] <unop> nectar,  see this here - http://hup.hu/node/61681
[14:49] <glaceman> well linux is not bad actually, like it
[14:49] <master> run the best if ya can
[14:49] <master> windows sucks
[14:49] <glaceman> pretty much better than microsoft products
[14:49] <glaceman> but please, somebody tell me
[14:49] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[14:49] <master> apple is the bets over all os
[14:50] <glaceman> how do i close this window (channel) to get back to the main channel, running irssi
[14:50] <foot> FiremanEd, It was a fresh install, The computed came back today from repair and there was only Windblows inside, thats why I dont know if just installing again will change anything, but I will try
[14:50] <myself> !bittorrent
[14:50] <ha1331> glaceman: /wc closes window
[14:50] <master> hpw do i live boot if certain f keys don't work
[14:50] <arthur_> i am using hardy thinking bout using juanty can i have my /home on a sepret partition can i us it with juanty or will ther be issues?
[14:50] <master> os x is devine
[14:50] <arthur_> i have my /home...
[14:51] <gemilang> help, what codec to play mp3 file?
[14:51] <FiReSTaRT> foot: doesn't hurt to try again just to test it and if it doesn't work, you've only lost an hour of your time :P
[14:51] <mobi-sheep> arthur_: No issue.  /home is for your personal files + your personal configuration files.
[14:51] <myself> hey does anyone know what bittorrent or music player for linux has a fish hook icon
[14:51] <myself> !music
[14:51] <TheDreamer> Song[E-Z Rollers - Dimensions Of Sound - Joy] Time[5:37] Genre[Drum & Bass]
[14:51] <myself> !mp3
[14:51] <ha1331> apple is awesome... want to rule the world... propable soon you need to plug your underwear to usb, just to get the computer boot
[14:51] <myself> !players
[14:51] <macke82> I'm using 9.04 and my cpu is high and the laptop freezez, want can I do?
[14:51] <arthur_> juanty is stable?
[14:52] <master> lol
[14:52] <master> apple make sthe best hardware
[14:52] <nectar> unop, ok i will try it
[14:52] <Joeseph> macke82: Do you know what is causing the cpu eating?
[14:53] <macke82> Joeseph: sometimes when I use firefox and flash sites or when I use gimp and when I play chess
[14:54] <bluepencil> Is it possible to update ubuntu OFFLINE?
[14:54] <Joeseph> macke82: Hmmm... What are your system specs?
[14:54] <SnowDeamon> appel it grows on trees.....
[14:54] <mobi-sheep> bluepencil: Yes.  You'll have to provide alternative choices such as putting the updates on USB or burn the ISO.
[14:55] <macke82> Intel Core 2, Intel 950 intergrated gpu, 2GB ram
[14:55] <Joeseph> macke82: Another thing you can do is to run 'top' in the terminal. it'll tell you how which programs are taking how much of what system resources...
[14:55] <myself> its quad libet by the way, the thing with the fish hook icon, im vegan, thats why i was asking, ihate it, i hate murder
[14:55] <Guest48236> hi there
[14:55] <Guest48236> anybody uses utube ripper ? need some help
[14:55] <sedontane> hi - how do i terminate the X Server?
[14:55] <macke82> Joeseph: top do not report anything strange
[14:55] <bluepencil> mobi-sheep, ah ok, thanks man
[14:56] <Guest48236> i was able to download a video throu utube ripper
[14:56] <Guest48236> now when i wanna convert it, i clicked on rip audio only
[14:56] <Guest48236> but the console is telling me, that i have to install ffmpeg
[14:56] <Guest48236> anybody can tell me please how to do so ?
[14:56] <Guest48236> newbie here, just migrating from microsoft products
[14:56] <Guest48236> any help would be appreciated guys
[14:56] <sedontane> Guest48236: package manager
[14:56] <Redfield> wassup?
[14:57] <Redfield> What u need help with?
[14:57] <indus> Guest48236: what help
[14:57] <sedontane> hi - how do i terminate the X Server?
[14:57] <Joeseph> macke82: well....  I'm not too familiar with these issues.  The advice I have for you is to run top to see what program is freezing your PC, and then after you login again, look at 'dmesg | tail' for more info....
[14:57] <indus> alt-sysrq-k
[14:57] <indus> sedontane: alt-sysrq-k
[14:57] <master> go apple
[14:58] <FiReSTaRT> Guest48236: open the terminal and type sudo apt-get install ffmpeg
[14:58] <macke82> Joeseph: will try that, thx
[14:58] <gnuyoga> sedontane: pkill X
[14:58] <FiReSTaRT> when it prompts you for your password just type in your system login password
[14:58] <Qu4R0w> my box always crash with 9.04 and nvidia glx 180..dun know what actually caused this :(
[14:58] <Guest48236> thanks u FiReSTaRT
[14:58] <Qu4R0w> always hang*
[14:58] <master> won't live boot
[14:58] <zpx> i'm having some strangeness with apache2 not starting on a fresh install of 8.04. It *will* start manually after the system comes up just fine, it just doesn't start at startup, any ideas?
[14:59] <indus> Qu4R0w: how do you know it hangs because of nvidia?
[14:59] <FiReSTaRT> Guest48236: no worries.. i hope that does the trick (it should) :)
[14:59] <xand_> hi folks, can anyone please tell me how can i find out the best values of refresh rate, dot clock frequency etc. for my 13.3 monitor ? Its a toshiba lap, and i did't find out anything about in manuals. I need these values to place by hand in xorg.conf since the system is not maintaining my confs.
[14:59] <sedontane> gnuyoga: Operation not permitted
[14:59] <master> trying to live boot 9.04
[14:59] <indus> sedontane: use sudo
[14:59] <zafy> hey guys, trying to launch a 8.10 live cd on an acer emachine EL 1200 but I can't see the graphical interface
[14:59] <Guest48236> just migrated from microsoft products 1 days ago
[14:59] <indus> sedontane: sudo pkill X
[14:59] <Guest48236> adn i allready love ubuntu ( newbie starter pack , lol)
[14:59] <gnuyoga> sedontane: do u have sudo access or root access
[14:59] <master> on xp pro but need both ya digg?
[14:59] <zafy> I hear it start and I get the ubuntu music and I can go to alt F1 but I can't see anything in the alt F7 mode
[14:59] <Guest48236> it did work actually FiReSTaRT , thanks a lot buddy
[14:59] <zafy> anything I can try ?
[14:59] <sedontane> indus: erm that just killed my session
[15:00] <aurilliance> v180 nvidia is the best to use?
[15:00] <Qu4R0w> before i use glx 177,my box was ok n work great
[15:00] <indus> sedontane: use keys ALT-SYSRQ-K
[15:00] <master> ni love from dell in live booting
[15:00] <BenTM> to use openssh is dependens to openssl?
[15:00] <master> can any one help?
[15:00] <sedontane> indus: Im trying to install the Nvidia drivers but they wont install while it is running
[15:00] <indus> sedontane: or sudo /etc/init.d/gdm stop
[15:01] <sedontane> indus: SYSRQ?
[15:01] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, i'm pretty sure you can revert to 177.. just open the hardware drivers thingamajig and you should be able to :)
[15:01] <Qu4R0w> so,i nid to install/use 177?
[15:01] <gnuyoga> sedontane: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-general-1/ctrl-alt-backspace-wont-kill-x.-130480/
[15:01] <indus> sedontane: u installing nvidia then use sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[15:02] <master> i nee dhelp live booting please
[15:02] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, yeah.. i think even 173 should be available.. too bad it's the crappy updated version
[15:02] <gnuyoga> sedontane: one more http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=34479
[15:02] <indus> sedontane: its ATL-SysRQ(its the printscrn button) +k
[15:02] <Qu4R0w> but with 177,firefox got problem
[15:02] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, what kind of a problem?
[15:02] <ctmjr> xand_, try this http://bohne-lang.de/spec/linux/modeline/
[15:03] <fiber> hello... i just setup a tor relay on a server I have access to and I want to check if my settings are correct... anyone know of a quick way of testing?
[15:03] <Qu4R0w> right click URL problem..
[15:03] <sedontane> umm now its hanging on the end of the bootloader sequence
[15:03] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, now that is weird.. i never had issues with it.. how about 173?
[15:03] <bb|[^b]{2}> hello
[15:04] <indus> sedontane: what ? bootloader? how did you get there
[15:04] <sedontane> typed that command
[15:04] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, actually i only have 173 and 180 available.. maybe 177 was buggy?
[15:04] <indus> sedontane: boot loader is the menu you get when you first start the system
[15:04] <buch_> Anyone who can help me with grub? - I have windows installed on my main HD.. Now ive found a old hardisk wich i installed ubuntu on
[15:04] <sedontane> oh ok
[15:05] <gnuyoga> buch_: yes
[15:05] <sedontane> well after that just before it normally gives me my login window
[15:05] <indus> sedontane: killing x just kills the display and gets you to a console (black screen)
[15:05] <bb|[^b]{2}> I need a wireless applet except nm-applet to monitor the quality of my AP, any suggestions please?
[15:05] <Qu4R0w> 180 is not stable i think..good now is 177 or any1 can doubt it with reason?
[15:05] <indus> sedontane: what exactly do you want to do
[15:05] <sedontane> I dont have a prompt unfortunately
[15:05] <indus> Qu4R0w: i suggest use 173
[15:05] <sedontane> indus: I want to install the graphics drivers
[15:05] <bluepencil> a user forgot her jaunty password, any ideas how to reclaim her OS?
[15:05] <Pici> !password | bluepencil
[15:05] <indus> sedontane: how are you installing them
[15:06] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, actually 180 is stable now... but yeah revert to 173 if you're having issues with both 177 and 180
[15:06] <buch_> gnuyoga: Right now i change boot via bios - i tried to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst
[15:06] <brian_> Anyone got a second for a couple of noob q's?
[15:06] <bb|[^b]{2}> I can use nm-applet too but I dont know how to configure it to worls without NetworkManager
[15:06] <indus> FiReSTaRT: hello
[15:06] <bb|[^b]{2}> *works
[15:06] <Qu4R0w> y 173 n not 177?
[15:06] <FiReSTaRT> indus: hello?
[15:06] <indus> Qu4R0w: well its upto you
[15:06] <bluepencil> Thank you!
[15:06] <indus> FiReSTaRT: just sain hi
[15:06] <sedontane> the tool for installing third party graphically wouldnt work so im attempting to install them myself
[15:06] <gnuyoga> buch_: r u in booted to linux now ?
[15:06] <Eloi> #ubuntu-fr
[15:07] <indus> sedontane: which tool ?
[15:07] <buch_> gnuyoga: yes i am
[15:07] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, because you mentioned that you were experiencing other issues that you traced to the 177 driver\
[15:07] <FiReSTaRT> indus: right back at ya :)
[15:07] <bb|[^b]{2}> I need a wireless applet except nm-applet to monitor the quality of my AP, any suggestions please?
[15:07] <buch_> gnuyoga: and i have sudo menu.lst
[15:07] <gnuyoga> buch_: run fdisk -l
[15:07] <bb|[^b]{2}> I can use nm-applet too but I dont know how to configure it to works without NetworkManager
[15:07] <master> why won't ubuntu live boot?
[15:07] <indus> brb 10 min
[15:07] <bb|[^b]{2}> please help
[15:07] <sedontane> indus: the one provided by ubuntu through the system menu
[15:08] <Qu4R0w> owh..but the problem is always be when i try to open firefox actually
[15:08] <buch_> gnuyoga: nothing happens
[15:08] <gnuyoga> sudo fdisk -l
[15:08] <gnuyoga> and past the result in pastebin.com
[15:08] <FiReSTaRT> sedontane, yeah jockey hangs from time to time.. i'd let it work for about 10-15 min and then cancel and shut it down.. that should be plenty of time for it to install the driver :)
[15:09] <xand_> ctmjr advice did not work for me...can anyone please tell me how can i find out the best values of refresh rate, dot clock frequency etc. for my 13.3 monitor ? Its a toshiba lap, and i did't find out anything about in manuals. I need these values to place by hand in xorg.conf since the system is not maintaining my confs.
[15:09] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, another reason is that people have been having fewer issues with 173 than 177... the major driver updates have mostly been in an effort to fix the suspend issue.. the rest should be about the same
[15:09] <buch_> gnuyoga: hah ofc - well then it shows me details about my two HD's
[15:09] <pekalongan> my_giaty@yahoo.com
[15:10] <kam00zy> doods
[15:10] <brian_> Any1 have an easy fix for no sound in java?
[15:10] <kam00zy> my sound stopped workinh
[15:10] <gnuyoga> buch_: select the result and paste it in pastebin.com
[15:10] <kam00zy> like alltogether
[15:10] <synthetiq> how does one go about adding packages to ubuntu for apt-get install?
[15:10] <iceroot> is there an easy way to clone a drive (sd-card) so that i can boot from it from another pc?
[15:11] <kr3wie> lol, I try to make steam work, but when ive updated steam i cant start it ;s
[15:11] <FiReSTaRT> synthetiq, sudo apt-get install packagename
[15:11] <synthetiq> no
[15:11] <kam00zy> he means how to add the repository
[15:11] <sedontane> FiReSTaRT: it doesnt hanfg
[15:11] <synthetiq> i want to add packages to the repo
[15:11] <sedontane> it just refuses to install it
[15:12] <buch_> gnuyoga: done
[15:12] <iceroot> synthetiq: you can not add a package to a ubuntu-repository, you mean how to add another repo?
[15:12] <zer0> yah..i reboot coz of nvidia glx 180 :(
[15:12] <gnuyoga> buch_: this one right http://pastebin.com/m3234948a
[15:12] <synthetiq> no i want to know how to add to the repo
[15:12] <synthetiq> im a developer
[15:12] <FiReSTaRT> synthetiq, system, administration, software sources, third-party software tab, add button
[15:12] <Qu4R0w> do i nid remove my 180?
[15:12] <buch_> gnuyoga: yes indeed
[15:12] <cabrey> synthetiq, you can become a maintainer
[15:13] <_ruben> synthetiq: #ubuntu-motu would be a good place to start
[15:13] <Qu4R0w> how to use nvidia glx 173??do i nid to remove glx 180?
[15:14] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, yes.. remove 180, reboot, install 173, reboot.. just make sure that it's available first before removing 180 :P
[15:14] <glaceman> hi there
[15:14] <Qu4R0w> what u mean by available?
[15:14] <gnuyoga> buch_: http://www.aboutdebian.com/dualboot.htm and see the section "Two Hard-Drive Setup"
[15:15] <buch_> gnuyoga: my first HD with window have two partitions - and my linux should have one (without the swap partition)
[15:15] <FiReSTaRT> when you open jockey (the hardware drivers applet), it should give you a list of available drivers.. like in my case nvidia 180, nvidia 173 and broadcom sta
[15:15] <kam00zy> people i need helps on getting my sound to work :)
[15:15] <kam00zy> like it just wont work
[15:15] <glaceman> any guy around for help please ?
[15:15] <kam00zy> i mean like.. i play music and no sound...
[15:15] <kam00zy> u get it :P
[15:15] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, the ones that are activated have a green circle next to them :)
[15:15] <buch_> gnuyoga: thanks ill try
[15:15] <gnuyoga> kam00zy: which version of ubuntu ?
[15:15] <glaceman> just 2 simple questions
[15:15] <kam00zy> jaunty
[15:15] <gnuyoga> buch_: ping me if u have any problem
[15:15] <Joeseph> kam00zy: Are your speakers plugged in?  Have to ask.....
[15:16] <Qu4R0w> yes n i can see 180=activated n 173 not activate..177 is not there
[15:16] <sedontane> FiReSTaRT: my jockey only has one driver in it
[15:16] <kam00zy> yes yes yes
[15:16] <kam00zy> im running mirc on crossover right now
[15:16] <kam00zy> and for the first time in a week i got beeping to work
[15:16] <kam00zy> it made me happy
[15:16] <glaceman> first of all, im chatting via irssi, and when i log in at any server at first connection, i log on under a certain username, and i wanna change it
[15:16] <FiReSTaRT> Qu4R0w, in that case remove 180 first, reboot, install 173, reboot again
[15:16] <Qu4R0w> ok,i try with 173
[15:16] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman, use the irc command /nick whateveryouwantyournewnicktobe
[15:16] <ha1331> glaceman: want to change the username?
[15:17] <ha1331> or the name in irssi?
[15:17] <kam00zy> nobody gonna help me? :(
[15:17] <kam00zy> im musicless
[15:17] <glaceman> yeah
[15:17]  * kam00zy cries
[15:17] <glaceman> like it's a default username that get automatically when i log in : Mike (my name)
[15:17] <ha1331>  /nick myNewUsernameInIrc
[15:17] <Dr_Willis> !sound
[15:17] <glaceman> i know how to change it via /nick enternickname
[15:18] <Qu4R0w> kam00zy:: someone will reply if they have ur answer
[15:18] <glaceman> but i wanna change the default one
[15:18] <musicpenguin> i was wondering about restricted drivers..do i need them?
[15:18] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman, you may wanna go to the package-specific support channel.. /join #irssi
[15:19] <glaceman> ok
[15:19] <Dr_Willis> Getting sound to 'work' can often be trivial (your mixer is set to mute), or very hard (you may need to upgrade your alsa)
[15:19] <glaceman> another question then
[15:19] <glaceman> anybody uses utube ripper ?
[15:19] <ha1331> glaceman: not sure if it's a lanquage barrier or something, but I'm having really hard time understanding you.
[15:19] <glaceman> FiReSTaRT:  gave me a tip about downloading and installing ffmpeg, wish was necessary for program functions, but now , when i click on a file to convert to audio, it convert automatically, with a 0b size, wish is not readable by media player
[15:20] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, in some cases yes... for most of the work that i do, the open graphics drivers are fine.. but for something more intensive like google earth, you need the propriatary drivers in most cases.. also wireless networking won't work for some people (myself included) without the broadcom propriatary driver
[15:20] <pbn> Hi there I've got a 8.04 LTS machine on a dial-up connection. I've gotten all the .deb packages to upgrade it on a USB key. How do I install them, other than typing 121 times dpkg -i <packagename>.deb ?
[15:20] <LiHong> glaceman: add some config in .irssi/config
[15:20] <rafaelscj> what app can I use to convet dvd 9 to 5?
[15:20] <gnuyoga> kam00zy: am here to help you ;-)
[15:20] <Dr_Willis> pbn:  dpkg accepts wildcards :)  dpkg -i *.deb   (but that may or may not work)
[15:20] <glaceman> ok LiHong
[15:20] <Pici> LiHong: Please don't suggest to modify the config file by hand.
[15:20] <glaceman> well seriously i think i wont
[15:20] <glaceman> im newbie
[15:21] <gnuyoga> kam00zy: follow https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting
[15:21] <zpx> this is the weirdest damn thing with apache2 not starting up at boot, but it starts perfectly by run after the fact if you run the standard /etc/init.d/apache2 start
[15:21] <pbn> Dr_Willis: thank you but I doubt it would work....
[15:21] <glaceman> 2nd day on ubuntu now, just migrated from microsoft products
[15:21] <zpx> any ideas?
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> I edit my irssi configs all the time. :)
[15:21] <glaceman> :P lol
[15:21] <LiHong> glaceman: ok. so /nick your nick name and /save
[15:21] <indus> !irssi
[15:21] <Pici> Dr_Willis: The irssi devs really don't want you to eb doing that.
[15:21] <Acedip> I'd installed glade 3.6.5 from sources, but in synaptic it says version 3.6.3??
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> pbn:   theres scripts/find command that can do a command for each file in a dir.
[15:21] <glaceman> about utube ripper, anybody used it before ?
[15:21] <DMRadford> linux n00b here with no time... does ubuntu use pulse audio?
[15:21] <pbn> pbn: especially beccause dpkg -i probably won't install them in the right order
[15:21] <indus> DMRadford: yes
[15:21] <musicpenguin> glaceman, where do i get pro drivers?
[15:21] <glaceman> in the .irssi/config ?
[15:21] <pbn> Dr_Willis: yes I can do fin . -name *.deb -exec dpkg -i and so on
[15:21] <Dr_Willis> Pici:  they also expect you to read the docs. :) but no one ever does that either.. heh..
[15:21] <DMRadford> damn....
[15:21] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman, or you can just run xchat.. it should be automatically installed iirc.. if not, sudo apt-get install xchat
[15:21] <DMRadford> thanks...
[15:21] <pbn> but there's package order and dependencies
[15:22] <indus> !mibbit
[15:22] <Acedip> how can I remove something I installed from sources
[15:22] <Acedip> ??
[15:22] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman, a lot easier to configure graphically, especially for those of us who migrated from windoze :)
[15:22] <buch_> gnuyoga: hmm i think im abit lost here - I plan to use grub since it seems easier or? - Cant i just simply point menu.lst or another grub file to point to the other HD?
[15:22] <glaceman> yeah i know FiReSTaRT , but im on ubuntu for commands
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> pbn:  yes.. and if you try to insttall them all at the same single command line. ive found that they 'magically' see each other and reaize the order...
[15:22] <glaceman> i mean if i wannted to stick to GUI, i would have continued using xp
[15:22] <gnuyoga> buch_: do u use windows XP / some other version ?
[15:22] <Dr_Willis> pbn:  but with that huge a # of packages.. it might not work.
[15:22] <LiHong> glaceman: if you do some setting changes in irssi and then /save. the settings will be save to the config file.
[15:22] <pbn> Dr_Willis: ah good
[15:22] <indus> Acedip: see if it has an uninstall script
[15:22] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman, in that case, #irssi should be your best bet for package-specific support :)
[15:23] <glaceman> can anybody tell me, where the irssi conf file located please ?
[15:23] <buch_> gnuyoga: I use XP
[15:23]  * Dr_Willis uses irssi on Windows. :)
[15:23] <Pici> glaceman: Please do not edit the file by hand.
[15:23] <glaceman> names are weird :P
[15:23] <glaceman> folder names
[15:23] <gnuyoga> buch_: k
[15:23] <Acedip> indus, no, it doesnt
[15:23] <indus> Acedip: then nothing can be done
[15:23] <indus> Acedip: delete folder where you install it
[15:23] <Dr_Willis> glaceman:  which config?  there  ~/.irssi/config for most user settings
[15:24] <glaceman> yeah but Pici , come with a handy solution then, cause until now, the only things guys gave me as solution
[15:24] <glaceman> i dont wanna use GUi stuffs
[15:24] <glaceman> gotta learn, easy or hard way
[15:24] <Pici> glaceman: /join #irssi
[15:24] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, where do i get pro drivers
[15:24] <glaceman> u mean i type that in the terminal ?, or do i have to access the file manually ?
[15:24] <Dr_Willis> glaceman:  default irssi.conf is in /etc/irssi.conf - or so 'locate irssi' says :)
[15:24] <LiHong> glaceman: you can do a /save in irssi instead of edit the config file directly
[15:24] <legend2440> since doing clean install of jaunty i notice that the mplayer brightness control doesnt work. in intrepid i could press numbers 3 and 4 to increase and decrease brightness. anyone else noticed this?
[15:24] <Pici> glaceman: Thats an irssi command.
[15:24] <Acedip> indus, in synaptic an older version is said to be installed , but when i open the app, it pops up the newer version
[15:25] <FiReSTaRT> glaceman cd /home/username/.appname
[15:25] <gnuyoga> buch_: have u backed up the data ?
[15:25] <InCrypto> ola everyone
[15:25] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, system, administration, hardware drivers.. jockey should open up and show u what's available
[15:25] <buch_> gnuyoga: backup of what data?
[15:25] <Dr_Willis> glaceman:  if you are such a irc beginner that you have never used '/join #channelname' befor - you may want to track down some irc beginner guides.
[15:25] <gnuyoga> buch_: personnal data (if any)
[15:25] <rafaelscj> !codec
[15:25] <indus> Acedip: then from synaptic upgrade to new version
[15:25] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i did..theres nothing in it
[15:25] <InCrypto> has anyone ever attempted to sync the mediubuntu repo for jaunty/intrepid using apt-mirrir
[15:25] <InCrypto> mirror*
[15:26] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, in that case you don't have any officially supported propriatary drivers for your hardware
[15:26] <rafaelscj> !rm | rafaelscj
[15:26] <ha1331> glaceman: you've been suggested to go and ask at #irssi if you have irssi specific problem. And if you really really want to learn, not just chit chat, maybe try google. I'm thinking your problems with irssi have solutions on the firs 10 answers you get from google
[15:26] <buch_> gnuyoga: on my windows HD or linux? - Well not at all tho the most important is on the second partition on my windows HD
[15:26] <Acedip> indus, but I dont want to upgrade, i want to use the older version and un-install the newer version
[15:26] <gnuyoga> buch_: http://www.gnu.org/software/grub/manual/html_node/Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall.html#Installing-GRUB-using-grub_002dinstall
[15:26] <emm> how are we doing my friends, how is Jaunty treating us?
[15:27] <indus> Acedip: do you remember where you installed it ? sudo make make install someplace
[15:27] <gnuyoga> buch_: replace hda with hdb
[15:27] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, but my wireless card needs ndiswrappers which i need to modprobe myself otherwise  the gui doesnt load and  blender comes out garbled but i can use compiz which makes no sense
[15:27] <gnuyoga> buch_: and replace hd0 with hd1
[15:27] <gnuyoga> buch_: oops hd is sd for you
[15:27] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  not sure if anyone can hjelp me with this.  but anyone know how to install guest additions??
[15:27] <bee> Any ideas on why my cronjobs are now not running and outputting this to syslog: Jun 18 10:24:01 SERVER1 CRON[17676]: Permission denied
[15:27] <gnuyoga> buch_: in shor replace hd{a,0} with sd{b,1}
[15:27] <Acedip> indus, i'd just fired that command in the folder where it was, does it gets installed there?
[15:28] <indus> yes
[15:28] <indus> Acedip: yes
[15:28] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, 2 separate issues.. for starters do you have a fresh install of ubuntu? did you run all of the updates?
[15:28]  * gnuyoga will be back in some time 
[15:28] <Joeseph> why does the command 'time | less' not work?
[15:28] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, yes..just installed it yesterday
[15:28] <Pici> Joeseph: time is not the command to get the time, it is for measuring the amount of time a program takes to run. Try date instead.
[15:28] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i didnt not run al the updates....
[15:28] <bee> anyone know why I am seeing "Permission denied" in syslog for my cron jobs?
[15:29] <ha1331> glaceman: did the googling for you:
[15:29] <buch_> gnuyoga: do you mind if we PM instead my eyes are freakin out here :)
[15:29] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, run update.. it'll take forever and a half, but after you update and reboot, some propriatary drivers should become available :)
[15:29] <ha1331>  /set nick <nick>
[15:29] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, ok thanks.. will do :)
[15:29] <gnuyoga> buch_: k
[15:30] <Jeruvy> bee: how did you set it up?
[15:30] <ha1331> that will make irssi to use <nick> when you start it, instead of your username
[15:30] <ha1331> glaceman: /set alternate_nick <nick>
[15:30] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, chancces are you'll get the broadcom sta driver.. by the way if it hangs during the driver install, let it sit for 10min and then click on cancel or whatever.. reboot and the driver should be activated :)
[15:30] <Joeseph> Pici: Ah.    Well.    Then it doesn't say timeless.     Thanks though.....    but I can do 'time less filename'
[15:30] <Acedip> indus, it is not where i'd fired the make command?
[15:30] <s0nix> hi, anyone know what this error mean? ata revalidation failed -13 (when booting hardy installation cd) the error only happens with 1 specific disk
[15:30] <Joeseph> Pici: Thanks.
[15:30] <ha1331> other command that might be intresting for you
[15:30] <bee> Jeruvy: crontab -e.  The user account I ran that as can exec the perl script that is running.  And this perl script has been running years on this cron.
[15:30] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i have the option to upgrade to Januty but i did yesterday and had big time issues with BLender..should i still just install jaunty and then update? or will that not make a diff
[15:31] <indus> Acedip: which package is it?
[15:31] <zgmf-x20a> anyone know how to setup SHARED FOLDERS?  trying to set it up for a xvm virtual xp running on ubu nbr 9.04.  help would be muchh appreciated ^_^
[15:31] <Acedip> indus, glade 3.6.5
[15:31] <Dr_Willis> glaceman:  the irssi homepage has some very well done 'beginner' guides.  theres also command line options to set your nick to irssi.  'irssi --nick=Billgates'
[15:31] <rafaelscj> !real | me
[15:31] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, i have experienced some upgrade issues as well.. that's why i prefer a fresh install :)
[15:32] <indus> Acedip: in synaptic it lists the old package?
[15:32] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i mean i have the Jaunty cd but went back to 810 since I had less issues...
[15:32] <Acedip> indus, yes
[15:32] <Jeruvy> bee: if the task requires root privileges, you should set it up as 'sudo crontab -e'.  Could be something else, but we'd need to closely look at
[15:32] <chetnick> zgmf-x20a: right click on the folder you want to share, go to the Share tab, and check Share this folder.
[15:32] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, should i retry J?
[15:32] <indus> Acedip: you need to check  the glade source folder to see if there is an uninstall script or see the readme for that
[15:32] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, or stick with I?
[15:32] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, nothing wrong with intrepid.. if you had fewer issues, you might as well switch back :)
[15:33] <bee> Jeruvy, it does not require root privileges.  The same user that I set the crontab can run it fine.
[15:33] <chetnick> zgmf-x20a: after that click Create Share.
[15:33] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, but try to update first
[15:33] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, an update usually fixes most of those issues (especially once you get the hardware drivers up and running)
[15:33] <rafaelscj> !pop > rafaelscj
[15:33] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, ok..will do...btw..someone told me i should use ath5k but i  couldnt get it to work
[15:33] <Jeruvy> bee: then I'd look at what changed.
[15:34] <sedontane> im trying to run Myth TV backend but cat work out how
[15:34] <sedontane> !mythTV
[15:34] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, in that case I wonder if I should have stuck with Jaunty and did the update..which makes no sense since I thought Jaunty would have solved these issues
[15:34] <mbeierl1> anyone know the difference between "/etc/group" and "/etc/group-"?
[15:34] <musicpenguin> ok..ill stick with 810 and update :)
[15:34] <indus> Acedip: its not easy
[15:34] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, it does solve a lot of issues once it's fully updated.. there's only so much they can cram onto a single cd.. the rest goes over the wire
[15:34] <Acedip> indus, nothing is said about how to un-install it.
[15:35] <indus> Acedip: hmm nvm
[15:35] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, so retry jaunty, update it, enable the hardware drivers and see what happens
[15:35] <mbeierl1> !/etc/group
[15:35] <indus> Acedip: i dont know any further
[15:35] <cabrey> mbeierl1, there is security on group- while group can be read by anyone
[15:35] <Acedip> :\
[15:35] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin, in my experience jaunty didn't fix any of the issues but at least it didn't screw anything up and i get 6 extra months of support for it :P
[15:36] <mbeierl1> cabrey: if I want to add my id to a group (say src) do I need to make the mod to both files or is there a groupmod type command that does it for me?
[15:36] <cabrey> mbamford, use groupadd
[15:36] <bee> Jeruvy, with this crontab: */1 * * * * echo "hello" >> /home/bee/debug I get no output to the debug file.  Instead, I get this in my syslog "Jun 18 10:36:01 SERVER1 CRON[19926]: Permission denied"
[15:36] <zgmf-x20a> chetnick: AHHHHHHH excellent.  thank you.  i hope tthis works, have to restart now tho
[15:36] <cabrey> mbeierl1, use groupadd or addgroup
[15:36] <bee> where do syslogs get saved?
[15:37] <bee> err I mean crontabs
[15:37] <cabrey> /etc/cron.*
[15:37] <bee> user crons too?
[15:37] <mbeierl1> cabrey: the group already exists, so I'm not technically adding or modding the group, I'm trying to add a user to an existing group list
[15:37] <TMC1> Hi guys, i am a newbe to this. I 'd like to know if i have down loaded all software package's onto HD within ubuntu. is there a way to save my ubuntu & all added 'packages' onto a disc so that if something would happen i could just reload onto the partitianed area without effecting the Vista on the other side of the partition?
[15:38] <thyr1> suggest a download accelerator for downloading mediafire file
[15:38] <vandrar> Hello
[15:38] <cabrey> mbeierl1, oh use the ubuntu users & groups tool and it will handle everything for you
[15:38] <thyr1> something similar to idm,orbit
[15:38] <thyr1> wget is slow for my connection
[15:38] <C-S-B> TMC1: i would download clonezilla and make a copy of the partition
[15:39] <thyr1> suggest a download accelerator for downloading mediafire file,wget is giving less speed
[15:40] <cabrey> thyr1, it won't do anything, wget uses all available bandwidth unless otherwise told
[15:40] <FiReSTaRT> TMC1:  google the sbackup package.. it might do the trick.. i'm reading up on it :)
[15:40] <thyr1> am getting higher sppes in idm in win
[15:40] <thyr1> speed
[15:41] <Pici> !aptoncd | TMC1
[15:41] <mbeierl1> cabrey: hmmm... not quite working.  I suppose I should have prefaced this with "I am trying to manage a domain users local group permissions when attached to a Windows Domain using Likewise Open"
[15:41] <Pici> TMC1: That package is in the repos.
[15:41] <thyr1> is ther any setting or max connections somethin like that for wget
[15:41] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[15:42] <Pici> thyr1: No. wget only uses one connection.
[15:42] <cabrey> mbeierl1, in that case you have to add the user to the DL group on the AD server (or one of them)
[15:42] <mbeierl1> DL group?
[15:42] <thyr1> so i need somethin that dowbload with many connections
[15:42] <thyr1> like accelerators
[15:42] <fabe> salut à tous _
[15:42] <rina>  ciao c'è qualcuno italiano?
[15:43] <Pici> !it | rina
[15:43] <Pici> thyr1: Have you looked in Applications> Add/remove yet?
[15:43] <rina> grazie mille ciao ciao
[15:43] <fabe> is there some french talckers ?
[15:43] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[15:43] <thyr1> @pici...i got gwget...which is same as wget
[15:43] <cabrey> 'thank you a thousand'
[15:44] <Pici> !fr | fabe
[15:44] <Pici> thyr1: You may want to try out Down Them All, its a firefox addon.
[15:44] <Guest88102> done..173 work great on my box :)
[15:44] <Guest88102> tq for help..really tq
[15:44] <thyr1> k thanks..let me c
[15:45] <thyr1> which is best transmission or ktorrent?
[15:45] <neoTheCat> hello.  does anyone have a recommendation for the best java to use? i want to use netbeans, but it seems a bit laggy.
 glad it worked :)
[15:45] <mbeierl1> neoTheCat: java development environment you mean?
[15:45] <cabrey> !best | thyr1
[15:45] <FiReSTaRT> Guest88102:  now you may wanna consider using a nickname ;)
[15:46] <thyr1> k
[15:46] <neoTheCat> mbeierl1: sorry, i meant jre.   i am using netbeans for C++ development
[15:46] <neoTheCat> the ide is just laggy
[15:47] <bmw_> hi all
[15:47] <mbeierl1> neoTheCat: sorry - I'm an eclipse on Sun Java 6, 64-bit guy, and find it acceptable - jre choice?  don't know
[15:48] <neoTheCat> mbeierl1: do you prefer eclipse over netbeans?  i found eclipse way to heavy and complex, but i could just be lazy.
[15:49] <zgmf-x20a> chetnick: hey, back... that didnt work exactly as planned, anything i have to do from the win virtual side??
[15:52] <_vm158> hi. can anybody tell, where i can find info about getty in ubuntu - where is user names and passwords and how it works?
[15:53] <mbeierl1> neoTheCat: right now I prefer eclipse over nb, as it does both Java and C equally well for me and I can easily tune the memory usage
[15:53] <beli> _vm158: better tell us what you want to do
[15:54] <Eloi> #ubuntu-fr
[15:54] <PiotrK> hi, and what IDE do you prefer for projects which use autotools?
 mmm... i want to delete all unnecessary files
[15:55] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[15:55] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[15:55] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[15:55] <joaopinto> !polls | PiotrK
[15:55] <Pici> jjbin: Please stop repeating.
[15:55] <mbeierl1> Does anyone have experience with Likewise Open and setting local unix group memberships?
[15:55] <joaopinto> jjbin, where is is expected, /usr/lib
[15:56] <joaopinto> mbamford, no, and yes, respectively
[15:56] <Pici> mbeierl1: I personally don't, but you'd probably have a better chance of finding someone if you ask in #ubuntu-server
[15:56] <joaopinto> ops, i mean mbeierl1
[15:56] <mbeierl1> jjbin: dpkg -S libc.so
[15:56] <beli> _vm158: erm....so i recommend to use the package tools instead if deleting stuff manually
[15:57] <mbeierl1> joaopinto: thanks, trying to have my domain user become a member of a local group (which does not exist in the domain)
[15:57] <joaopinto> mbeierl1, that shows the package, not the location :)
[15:57] <TMC1> Guys, tx will try it out...........I just want to say that 'ubuntu' rocks and all that it 'stands for' with the little that I have used of it.........
 no, i want to understand how it works
[15:58] <mbeierl1> joaopinto: shows which package installed it where... like "libc6-dev: /usr/lib/libc.so libc6-i386: /lib32/libc.so.6 libc6: /lib/libc.so.6"
[15:58] <misha> hi all, need help with rndis - wm61 internet connection to jaunty
[15:58] <mbeierl1> Pici: thanks, will try there
[15:58] <beli> _vm158: then you have to read about it and not delete files ;)
[15:59] <mbeierl1> #join ubuntu-server
[15:59] <beli> PiotrK: depends on your needs....eclipse cdt or vim ;)
[15:59] <mbeierl1> oops
[16:00] <sarmisak> hi all
 mmm... my english is rather bad... i want to understand how it works, and then i will think, which files i need to delete
[16:01] <PiotrK> I'm using kdevelop, I've tried eclipse but I can't get it to work with autotools based project without much hassle
 can you tell any links about getty?
[16:01] <The_Flames> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?ð¹ð°ð·ð³ð¶ð³ðºð¼ð·ð®ð¼ððº" 0 0
[16:01] <beli> _vm158: no problem with your english, but i still cant get what you want to LEARN and why you want to DELETE
[16:01] <beli> _vm158: whats so special about getty? ;)
[16:02] <_vm158> how it works
 of cource, i can disassemble it, but it is not very good choice
[16:04] <beli> _vm158: erm....at first on linux you should read the related manual page, try: man getty
[16:04] <beli> _vm158: in comon there are things explained and also related commands/files listed
[16:05] <lesshaste> how do I find which package has GL/glu.h in it?
[16:06] <boss_mc> !find glu.h | lesshaste
 "commands/files" what is it, how i can view it? i dont know
[16:07] <PiotrK> !find Python.h | lesshaste
[16:07] <beli> _vm158: man getty         <<<<<---- enter that on a terminal
[16:07] <_vm158> ok)
[16:07] <misha> hi all, need help connecting moto q9c wm61 to jaunty to share inet
[16:07] <lesshaste> PiotrK, apt-file search glu.h
[16:07] <PiotrK> neat :)
[16:08] <lesshaste> PiotrK, :)
[16:08] <PiotrK> I know, but usually I have to build database to search in apt-file on every new computer, this is faster :)
 i dont find what i want, but thanks. bye
[16:11] <MrKeuner> hi I am using Ubuntu jaunty with encrypted home directory option. I was wondering if that setup makes my home directory more vulnerable to disk errors. Is my whole home directory one single file now? What happens if a particular region of that file is damaged?
[16:13] <cobra> hy
[16:13] <cobra> i need little help
[16:13] <cobra> i need to format my storage card on mobile to ext3 or ext2
[16:13] <cobra> how to do this?
[16:14] <need_help> hello need help brothers! i was making a /home parition now i format i install xp and i want to install ubuntu beside the xp, about /home parition i did before it's still consider as /home parition when i install ubuntu beside xp? or it will be like carbage! thanks =)
[16:14] <boss_mc> !format | cobra
[16:14] <beli> MrKeuner: afaik its using EncFS....and thats encrypting file by file
[16:14] <Schneff> cobra: have you tried gparted ?
[16:14] <PiotrK> !GParted
[16:14] <cobra> emm
[16:14] <cobra> can you help my how to do with it?
[16:14] <chetnick> cobra: mke2fs -j /dev/hda3
[16:15] <chetnick> where /dev/hda3 is your device.
[16:15] <cobra> i have ubuntu from webpage..and i dont install it
[16:15] <chetnick> cobra: sorry, i see you want to ext2
[16:15] <MrKeuner> beli, I thought encfs did a huge single file
[16:15] <cobra> i just use try
[16:15] <cobra> is this important?
[16:15] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, update complete
[16:16] <jjbin> hi where is the file of libc.so in the ubuntu
[16:16] <boss_mc> jjbin: locate libc.so
[16:16] <misha> anyone have experience getting rndis to work? Ive compiled drivers just cant get ip (dhcp issu?)
[16:16] <need_help> hello need help brothers! i was making a /home parition now i format i install xp and i want to install ubuntu beside the xp, about /home parition i did before it's still consider as /home parition when i install ubuntu beside xp? or it will be like carbage! thanks =)
[16:16] <musicpenguin> misha, rndis?
I am sorry u mean the shell?
[16:17] <boss_mc> need_help: if install ubuntu after XP (which I think is what you're suggesting) then you can reuse your old /home to keep your settings
[16:17] <boss_mc> jjbin: yes
[16:17] <chetnick> cobra: mkfs.ext2 /dev/yourusb
[16:17] <beli> MrKeuner: check the encfs site....afaik its doing it file by file
[16:17] <musicpenguin> misha, you meant ndiswrappers?
[16:17] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  now do you see any hardware drivers when you start jockey? (system, admin, hardware drivers)
oh,thank u
[16:17] <beli> MrKeuner: otherwise you would have to setup how big your home will be....or at least the encrypted part of it
[16:17] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, empty
[16:18] <misha> musicpenguin - i mean connect the cell via usb and use it's data plan
[16:18] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  weird... what about your wifi.. is it at least working properly? (sometimes even the open drivers need updates)
[16:18] <musicpenguin> misha, oh ok..that i dont know
[16:19] <cmcasper> boas
[16:19] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, yes...but i had to load the ndiswrapper and when i close blender the interface still stays up untill i move stuff around the desktop and then it disappersa little by little
[16:19] <cmcasper> algum brasileiro ?
[16:19] <MrKeuner> beli, I have been using encfs for couple of years now. I had set up a folder to be encrypted and afaik I had set a max limit on it. But may be encfs now has the option of encrypting file by file
[16:19] <misha> i'm very close - prob just need someone to help with dhclient
[16:19] <unop> !br | cmcasper
[16:19] <need_help> boss_mc i don't have anything needed on /home , i install xp and want to install ubuntu right now and before i did a /home parition , my question when i install ubuntu now, does my previous /home parition consider a /home parition after install ubuntu now?
[16:19] <beli> MrKeuner: the max limit is not for that....read here: http://www.arg0.net/encfsintro
[16:19] <musicpenguin> ubottu, obrigado!
[16:20] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  in that case i have no idea... reverting might be your best option
[16:20] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, huh? you mean reinstall again?
[16:20] <Rob235> anyone know why crossover would take forever to create a new bottle? its been trying for 10 min and still going
[16:20] <boss_mc> need_help: so what have you got at the moment?
[16:20] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  iirc you had things working with an older version of ubuntu and the upgrade to jaunty messed you up?
[16:20] <Schneff> Is there a way I can start up an application for all users on startup (not using Preferences -> Startup Applications)?
[16:21] <boss_mc> !starup | Schneff
[16:21] <boss_mc> !startup | Schneff
[16:21] <need_help> boss_mc nothing i'll install ubuntu right now, but all i need to know the parition of /home i did before keep /home partition after installing ubuntu beside XP ! right? =) thx
[16:21] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, im on 810 right now
[16:22] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  ahhh so you upgraded from hardy or you had even more issues with jaunty?
[16:22] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i never got it working perfect with 810 either
[16:22] <detrix_> I am trying out seamonkey web browser.  I have flashplayer 10, but seamonkey is not seeing it.  How do I get seamonkey to use the flashplayer that is installed???
[16:22] <boss_mc> need_help: you're not making sense... if you kept your old /home partition then you can use it again if you want, or delete it and make a new one, it's your call
[16:22] <MrKeuner> beli, I am sorry. I was almost sure that there was a huge single file there. You were right, it was encrypted file by file
[16:22] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  but you haven't tried jaunty yet?
[16:22] <beli> MrKeuner: np
[16:22] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, no...i have intrepid and tried jaunty....jaunty is worse with blender..icant even use it
[16:22] <need_help> boss_mc got ya , thx what's what i need to know :)
[16:23] <beli> mrlolplx: loopback encryption is using partitions of big files
[16:23] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  but did you try running full updates with jaunty first?
[16:23] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, but i have not updates in jaunty but im feeling its gonna remain the same issues
[16:23] <boss_mc> need_help: cool, just set that partition as mounted at /home but not formatted during the install
[16:23] <beli> s/of/or/
[16:23] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i could be wrong though
[16:24] <need_help> boss_mc nah i'll install it beside xp only, when install finish i need to set quota on it for that i won't format it =)
[16:24] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  usually your best bet is to install the newest version and update it
[16:25] <hansolo669> !mythbuntu
[16:25] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, ok..ill install jaunty......if that doesnt work...ill have to come after you and install redhat 2.0 on your box :P
[16:25] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  by the way did you have blender and everything else functioning properly under another version of ubuntu?
[16:25] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, no..
[16:26] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  well yeah, if that doesn't work out for you, you may wanna try another distro
[16:26] <cyberghoser1> Hello, currently i am using this kernel : 2.6.28-13-generic , is there a new one out there ? where to grab it? thanks
[16:26] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i had blender running on an old mac with pather on it...works great but too slow
[16:26] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, like?
[16:26] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  in any case you'd have a long flight... currently chillaxin' in south america :P
[16:26] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 the only way to get a new kernal is to update ubuntu
[16:26] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, arch worked great but that was a pain and an half to configure
[16:27] <pintook> hi
[16:27] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, where in s-america?
[16:27] <hansolo669> pintook hi
[16:27] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  mandriva, debian, who knows what else.. i've found ubuntu to be most functional and easiest to configure so i didn't screw around with others since 2000/2001
[16:27] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 well aparently no new updates in update manager so its ok
[16:27] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - ok
[16:28] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  chile... on a bit of an extended honeymoon.. currently waiting for the mrs. to wake her ass up :P
[16:28] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i tried debain, redhat, suse, fbsd, mandrake, pcbsd, zenwalk, slackware, :)
[16:28] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, nice! i had friends from that.... hablas espanol?
[16:28] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - have funn, if you really have to deal with a diff kernel....well google "changing kernle in ubuntu (and put your verson #)
[16:29] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, wouldnt using debian be the same as using ubuntu?
[16:29] <v87r8y> i use Dlink DWA 140 - any one got working on ubuntu
[16:29] <v87r8y> i install the drivers
[16:29] <hansolo669> v87r8y - is that a router?
[16:29] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 well my current kernel is ok but i see sometimes people having new ones even before ubuntu release them, they are custom i guess
[16:29] <ehazlett> is there a way to completely bypass user input during apt installs?
[16:29] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, did you install the 3 main prgrams?
[16:29] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  si pero este canal e mas para ayuda con ubuntu en ingles.. no para chatear o hablar en otras idiomas.. ubuntu is debian based but it follows a different development path.. a number of things works differently from what i hear
[16:29] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - yup and a pain to configutre
[16:30] <v87r8y> but when i ifconfig i see only a interface called ra0 up with the same mach id as wireless dwa 140 dongle. but when i do dhcp it wont work
[16:30] <v87r8y> is there a GUI CLient for Wireless to configure
[16:30] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, spanish is really good :)
[16:30] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 - yeap i know that too, i tried the netbook kernel, God it makes the fan going crazy
[16:30] <v87r8y> no it is a ubuntu system and not a router.
[16:30] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, in your ubuntu cd....go to pool > main > n
[16:30] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - hahaha lol thats unusalule but all part of the "kernle experiance"
[16:30] <need_help> why i can't parition more than 4 logical?
[16:31] <v87r8y> i am using corporate wireless accesspoint to connect my system to it
[16:31] <need_help> partition*
[16:31] <ingcomrbr> v87r8y: Network manager is good..
[16:31] <FiReSTaRT> v87r8y:  you have the network manager.. comes stock :)
[16:31] <hansolo669> v87r8y - wtf dlink makes a ubuntu box o.O this is new
[16:31] <musicpenguin> nm doesnt work for me
[16:31] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 - what is fun with ubuntu is that it it not boring, even on default theme i didnt changed it because its awesome easy
[16:31] <hansolo669> need_help - because thats how it is
[16:32] <musicpenguin> I installed the 3 progs in the n folder and it worked..not terminal typing at all
[16:32] <v87r8y> you mean network tools
[16:32] <Jeruvy> need_help: you mean primary and thats just the way it is. you can however have unlimited (well realistically of course) extended
[16:32] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - yah
[16:32] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - very true
[16:32] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: did dwa 140 work for you just like that ;-)
[16:32] <need_help> Jeruvy primary about 4 only i can? while extended unlimit?
[16:32] <musicpenguin> i have a dlink..
[16:32] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 - currently im learning gambas2 and its so good to make apps
[16:32] <sedontane|2> how do I update my liniux kernel - the version i am running isnt high enough for the new v4l-dvb package
[16:32] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, network m didnt work for me :(
[16:33] <v87r8y> okay if i put my cd on a running ubuntu system nothing will happen?
[16:33] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  what was the problem with it? is it at least showing networks in your area?
[16:33] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, it should open...you should have a cd icon on your desktop
[16:34] <hansolo669> cyberghoser1 - hmm gambas2 i will check that out what can you do
[16:34] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, no...i had to install those 3 progs..then it worked...its the ndisrwappers
[16:34] <hansolo669> !gambas2
[16:34] <hansolo669> hmm
[16:34] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, maybe i should just buy a video card
[16:35] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 - google it, its like visual basic
[16:35] <hansolo669> interesting
[16:35] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: i went to pool -> n ; what i do next
[16:35] <sedontane|2> how do I update my liniux kernel - I am running the LTS version with 2.6.24 - I need at least 2.6.26
[16:35] <hansolo669> gtg bye
[16:35] <v87r8y> v87r8y	musicpenguin: i went to pool -> n ; what i do next
[16:35] <FiReSTaRT> musicpenguin:  this particular issue has nothing to do with your video card, but a usb wireless adapter might do the trick on your box.. just check the ubuntu forums to see which ones work out of the box.. and if you search the forums, you may even come across some info on how to make what you already have work
[16:35] <cyberghoser1> hansolo669 - yeap you can code & design like in vb and compile - make executables
[16:36] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, i wonder if v87r8y  might have the same prolbem i do after installing ndis....i had to blacklist ndiswrapper or my gui froze permantley..had to reinstall ubuntu
[16:36] <cyberghoser1> is there a way to keep network places that i open in nautilus in my desktop like shortcuts?
[16:36] <musicpenguin> FiReSTaRT, oh ok..ill have to check that out
[16:36] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, do you see a ndiswrapper folder?
[16:37] <v87r8y> hello there
[16:37] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, go into the ndiswrapper folder
[16:38] <sedontane|2> how do I update my liniux kernel - I am running the LTS version with 2.6.24 - I need at least 2.6.26
[16:38] <v87r8y> yeah, it says it is recommend to install from software channel
[16:38] <v87r8y> what is this software channel
[16:38] <cyberghoser1> synaptic way
[16:38] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, ?
[16:39] <sedontane|2> cyberghoser1: there arent new ones listed on synaptic
[16:39] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, you cant get into the folder?
[16:39] <cyberghoser1> sedontane|2: my bad then :)
[16:40] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: what do i do next after installing
[16:40] <cyberghoser1> is there a way to keep network places that i open in nautilus in my desktop like shortcuts?
[16:40] <sebsebseb> hi
[16:40] <Denn1> say i had an issue with ubuntu's fglrx driver. i have a ati x1300. anywayz, just wanted to tell you guys for future refernce, that the only way i was able to fix it was to uninstal every scrap of xorg drivers for ati, and install the *yuk* amd ati drivers from ati themselves. i hate having to do it, but it works
[16:40] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, install the one what says common first the ninstall the other one
[16:41] <ed0n0n> I trying to run a wu-ftp server with /etc/init.d/wu-ftp start, but using status parameter says its not running. I have the default configuration, where could I see whats going wrong?
[16:41] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: i instrall all the 3 packages, now what do i do next
[16:42] <ed0n0n>  "/var/log/wu-ftp/" is empty... can you help?
[16:42] <musicpenguin> so you install common, ndis and the other one nkg or something
[16:42] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  anyone running 9.04 with virtual box, newest one out ????? could use some much needed help
[16:42] <sebsebseb> zgmf-x20a: no, but I have used  Virtualbox for other OS's.  What's the issue?
[16:42] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - yea i use it its working great
[16:43] <Denn1> i am
[16:43] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, if you installed all 3...then go toe system > admin > windows wireless driver
[16:43] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: yes
[16:43] <sebsebseb> cyberghoser1  and Denn1    Install Ubuntu 9.04 on your hard disk for real,  or maybe even 8.10 :)  since better in certain ways in my opinion
[16:43] <Denn1> i am running virtulbox. but i installed straight from the sun website, ubuntu 8.04. i read it's the most stable
[16:43] <yonarox> e
[16:43] <zgmf-x20a> sebsebseb: cyberghoser1 Denn1 thanks for the response guys.  trying to setup a shared folder.  having issues getting it in winxp on virtualbox, how does it setup properly??
[16:44] <cyberghoser1> sebsebseb - i have it lol
[16:44] <Guaguasi-work> Is going to 9.04 worth the loss of the catalyst support?
[16:44] <sebsebseb> zgmf-x20a:  I hope you put some Linux distro on as host :)  and you can find out in #vbox regarding your issue
[16:44] <[T]ank> is there a better program out there than gedit and nano for doing a find and replace on hundreds of thousands of quotation marks in a file? This is taking 100% of my CPU and hours to complete.
[16:44] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, do you have that?
[16:44] <sebsebseb> cyberghoser1: which?
[16:44] <Denn1> sorry, i dont use shared folders, no current reason too. are you trying to give data to a vm? i just make my own iso's and feed the machine that way, or using the net.
[16:44] <zgmf-x20a> sebsebseb: yes, it is 9.04 nbr as host
[16:44] <cyberghoser1> sebsebseb - i use jaunty
[16:45] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: so i have set the shared folder, added it in virtualbox, but cant get it to show up in xp when vbox is runng
[16:45] <sebsebseb> [T]ank>  maybe Emacs or something
[16:46] <v87r8y> musicpenuin: what do i install? i go to configure network it says cant find configuration tool or something
[16:46] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - did you install also vbox addons?
[16:46] <sedontane|2> how do I update my liniux kernel - I am running the LTS version with 2.6.24 - I need at least 2.6.26
[16:46] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: what do i install? i go to configure network it says cant find configuration tool or something 21:16	cyberghoser1	zgmf-x20a - did you install also vbox addons?
[16:46] <zgmf-x20a> Denn1: i need it to transfer files over, essentially
[16:46] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, no
[16:46] <Denn1> hmm, did you set up file and printer sharing for networks, because i thought that was handled like samba
[16:46] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, dont press that
[16:46] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: that can't be right
[16:46] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, next..install new driver
[16:46] <cyberghoser1> npe Denn1
[16:46] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: which LTS?
[16:46] <sedontane|2> 8.04
[16:46] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: yeah tell me
[16:46] <cyberghoser1> shared folderd just work, just install virtualbox addons
[16:47] <v87r8y> where is this driver
[16:47] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: vobx addons?  not sure actually, how should i go about installing that??
[16:47] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - on the main menu o virtualbox
[16:47] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: I would have thought,  they would have given you a later kernel then that from the repo
[16:47] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, the drivers are in the windows cd that come with your card....otherwise you have to get it off the website
[16:47] <eMaX> hi all
[16:47] <sedontane|2> it gave me 2.6.22
[16:48] <Denn1> yeah thats true, besides giving windows all the vm drivers and mouse integration, the guest addons add drivers for cross platforming. thats what you get when you read too much. :)
[16:48] <sedontane|2> then it upgraded me to 2.6.24
[16:48] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: hmm, looking for that drop down menu, and checking, but no option for it.  there is a shared folders section.  in there i added the folder that i would like to be shared.  is this what you refering too??
[16:48] <Denn1> disconnect
[16:48] <Denn1> oops
[16:49] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - no on the main menu of virtual box you have an option to install addons
[16:49] <sebsebseb> Denn1: regarding stability  for many of us at the time  around April 2008 yes,  8.04  was not that stable since the amount of pulseaudio issues :(   now days 8.0.4.2 is probably pretty stable.   8.04  the LTS yep long term supopurt,  security updates for longer than the other versions in LTS.  ,but is it more stable hum.  8.10  is  a rather good release, sadly suppourt runs out  April next year on the desktop
[16:49] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, do you have the cd?
[16:49] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - once you run your vm
[16:49] <Al1_> my home/me file has become my desktop, as in all the contents in it are displayed on my desktop, why is this and how do i change my desktop location back to home/me/Desktop
[16:49] <tlively> Hello,  I just installed security updates on Jaunty and now my sound is not working. Can anyone help?
[16:49] <Guest46662> i cant find my .conkyrc file..how to have nice conky then?
[16:49] <Guest46662> how to set my own conly style?
[16:49] <eMaX> short question - how can I have eth0 have 192.168.1.6 with a router on 192.168.1.1 and default route over that if and then create a vpn connection (tap0) which is on the same network, giving me 192.168.1.240 on tap0 so that I can then access 192.168.1.55 which is on the vpn?
[16:50] <cyberghoser1> Guest46662 - look in /youusername/ set on view in nautilus see hidden files
[16:50] <lwells> Can you create a rule in Evolution that sends incoming email to a certain folder??
[16:50] <Guest46662> already did..cant find also
[16:50] <waters> Question: I have just installed ubuntu .. However i am having a problem with it. I used the unetbootin-windows to make a usb install drive, and download from ftp. Everything worked great. When i boot for the the first time. Blanks screen.
[16:50] <cyberghoser1> Guest46662 - do a new one to test
[16:51] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: sorry for the trouble, but i dont see it anywhere.  and when i mosu over the folder i am trying to share, in shared folder options, it says i need guest additions??
[16:51] <Guest46662> make file name "conky"?
[16:51] <Guest46662> ".conky"?
[16:51] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - yup thats that!
[16:51] <forceflow> I think it's conky.rc ?
[16:51] <cyberghoser1> forceflow - its .conkyrc
[16:51] <eMaX> so basically I want a default route on eth0 via 192.168.1.1 but all traffic to 192.168.1.* except for 192.168.1.1 go on tap0
[16:52] <Guest46662> conkyrc*
[16:52] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: ahhhhh when its running... argh. missed that.  lol, ok lets see here...
[16:52] <Guest46662> it to set style i think..i can default file to replace with mine
[16:52] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - yeah it will work anyway
[16:52] <Al1_> how do i change which folder acts as my Desktop folder in Nautilus?
[16:52] <sedontane|2> so how do i install 2.6.28? it isnt listed on synaptic
[16:53] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, ?
[16:53] <cyberghoser1> sedontane|2 - run update manager perhaps
[16:53] <jrib> Al1_: does it have to be in nautilus?
[16:53] <detrix_> I am trying out seamonkey web browser.  I have flashplayer 10, but seamonkey is not seeing it.  How do I get seamonkey to use the flashplayer that is installed???
[16:53] <_M4rk_> hello. how can i search for a certain word in aload of files in 1 folder?
[16:53] <jrib> _M4rk_: grep
[16:53] <sedontane|2> cyberghoser1: tried that - "your system is up to date"
[16:53] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: ok you want a later kernel, well  not much point getting 2.6.28  if   the 2.6.30 kernel is also available as a ppa for hardy
[16:53] <joaopinto> _M4rk_, grep -r "word" folder
[16:53] <v87r8y> musicpenguin: you mean windows xp driver for dwa
[16:53] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: ok so how do i get that?
[16:53] <Al1_> jrib: well thats what i use
[16:54] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, yes
[16:54] <_M4rk_> it takes a minute to search i see
[16:54] <jrib> Al1_: is your Desktop folder not ~/Desktop?
[16:54] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: ok, did that, came up with errors. ie, display, and second was something else, i think mouse, but its restarting now
[16:55] <cyberghoser1> zgmf-x20a - ok, i think now it should work
[16:55] <musicpenguin> v87r8y, whent you try to install the driver..select the .inf
[16:55] <Al1_> jrib: no for some reason i started up this morning and it was home/me
[16:55] <smiley> Hi, one question: When I want to burn an iso with growisofs or cdrecord to dvd the system reboots without further messages suddenly during burn process. Has someone an Idea how to discover the problem?
[16:55] <godzirra> I just installed and configured postfix and whenever it tries to start I get this error:  postfix: fatal: chdir(/usr/libexec/postfix): No such file or directory
[16:55] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: Why not upgrade to 8.10 by the way?  nice release,  8.04 is getting old now.   Then you can do a clean install  and put on Ubuntu 9.10  released at the end of October, with Ext4 as default file system :)
[16:55] <sedontane|2> i couldnt find the install image for 8.1
[16:55] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: AWWWWWWW SWEET MAN!!!! i can custom the size... omg, i WISH i knew about these addons AGES ago.  SOOO useful!!!! ^_^
[16:56] <jrib> Al1_: pastebin your ~/.config/user-dirs.dirs
[16:56] <_M4rk_> this grep doesn't seem to be doing anythin =/
[16:56] <jrib> _M4rk_: paste the command you ran
[16:56] <sedontane|2> could only find 9.04 and 8.10
[16:56] <joaopinto> _M4rk_, if grep does not find it, it is not there
[16:56] <jrib> sedontane|2: there is no such thing as 8.1
[16:56] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: hmm... so where is the shared files?  sorry its been a LONG time since windows.  lol.
[16:56] <sedontane|2> 8.10
[16:56] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: you read me wrong, read that again
[16:57] <godzirra> I just installed and configured postfix and whenever it tries to start I get this error:  postfix: fatal: chdir(/usr/libexec/postfix): No such file or directory  .. Anytone have any ideas whats going on there?
[16:57] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: I cant use 9th edition ubuntu
[16:57] <Al1_> jrib: no need i think i see the problem my desktop dir is set to home
[16:57] <Al1_> jrib: now why is that...
[16:57] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: what I am suggesting is you uppgrade to 8.10,  skip 9.04,  and  put a clean install of 9.10 on when it's released
[16:57] <jrib> Al1_: it will happen if your Desktop directory does not exist and you login I think
[16:57] <stz184> how to keep display brightness level after reboot? i need to run the command xbacklight -set 50 on every login. i tried to put it in .profile file but it doesn't work
[16:58] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: so how do ipgrade to 8.10?
[16:58] <Al1_> jrib: but it did exist.... thats odd
[16:58] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: already  thing with upgrading from 8.04 to 8.10 is this,  it happended to me on the other computer it went well, except  then I had no working ethernet,  it also happended to someone I talked to last night.   I guess there is some kind of bug.
[16:59] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: only thing not already thing above
[16:59] <sedontane|2> what?
[16:59] <zgmf-x20a> cyberghoser1: actually, i have  lost the ability to be fully in the os now.  but its ok.  secondly though, where is the shared  folder location?
[16:59] <aurilliance> q: pressing ctrl+alt+f1 through f6 doesn't give me a terminal, it gives me a blank screen. I've tried messing with grub's video modes (read that on a forum) but no avail. Suggestions?
[16:59] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: I am saying the upgrade might go wrong, and then you got to clean install  if you want your Internet to work, or so it seems
[16:59] <KittyKat> morning everyone, i have a quick question
[17:00] <Guest46662> a
[17:00] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: ok if it does ill have to go try find a 8.10 disk image
[17:00] <sebsebseb> KittyKat: afternoon or early evening here, anyway go a head, just ask
[17:01] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: ok
[17:01] <aurilliance> ^ also, where is xorg.conf?
[17:01] <KittyKat> I cant seem to find any modules that allow me to adjust my screen brightnes on a Panasonic CF-29 with the 2.6.28-13 kernel that just came out today. and yes i did load the panasonic_laptop module
[17:01] <jrib> aurilliance: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[17:01] <aurilliance> ty
[17:02] <sedontane|2> i can see no option to upgrade anywehere on my system
[17:02] <jrib> aurilliance: though you should probably read https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config
[17:02] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: you won't have 2.6.30 in 8.10, but I think you get 2.6.28
[17:02] <aurilliance> thanks agian jrib
[17:02] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: system > administaration > update manager
[17:03] <sedontane|2> wrong
[17:03] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: just found out iu have to go modiufy a setting first grr
[17:03] <Bennit> Hello
[17:03] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: which setting?
[17:03] <Bennit> I'm having a problem with a fresh jaunty install with my wireless card (WMP300N)
[17:03] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: well you got to tell it to do non LTS releases as well
[17:04] <sedontane|2> sebsebseb: the one in update sources
[17:04] <ctmjr> sedontane|2, type sudo update-manager -d in terminal;
[17:04] <Bennit> when googling for a solution i found that i have to use the windows driver with ndiswrapper
[17:04] <sebsebseb> !upgrade  |  sedontane|2
[17:04] <Bennit> can I install that package from the jaunty cd?
[17:04] <Bennit> or do i need to be connected through the wired network?
[17:05] <sebsebseb> sedontane|2: 8.10 is the release before 9.04 the current latest,  but  I have my reasons for suggesting skipping that one
[17:05] <sparrow_> hey guy i have an IDE HardDisk, but the cylinder size is set to 4864. can i use fdisk to change it to 1024
[17:05] <KittyKat> so anyone have any idea on the lcd brightness problem?
[17:06] <sebsebseb> KittyKat: hardware or software issue?  hardware maybe I guess
[17:06] <Rob235> ugh why does there have to be icon duplicates everywhere
[17:06] <craigbass1976> I seem to be missing my trash can.  Isn't it ~/.Trash?   I see no such folder.  Can I just touch .Trash and be all set?
[17:06] <M_Young> list
[17:06] <jrib> !trash | craigbass1976
[17:06] <M_Young> -l
[17:06] <M_Young> -list
[17:06] <craigbass1976> jrib, ahh
[17:06] <FiReSTaRT> KittyKat:  system, preferences, display?
[17:06] <jrib> M_Young: stop.  This is a support channel
[17:07] <LiHong> Q/quit
[17:07] <jerz> hello
[17:07] <KittyKat> sebsebseb i'm not too sure to be honest, i know that it works fine in XP, worked back in 8.04 if i rember correctly and fails to work in 9.04 with the 2.6.28-13 kernel
[17:07] <KittyKat> so i'm thinking it's more a kernel or module issue
[17:07] <sebsebseb> KittyKat: or some kind of driver issue maybe yeah
[17:07] <sparrow_> can anyone help me change the cylinder size on my harddisk
[17:07] <KittyKat> i loaded up panasonic_laptop module but that did nothign
[17:07] <ctmjr> KittyKat, install xbacklight and set it 0 to 100 anything inbetween
[17:08] <bizarrefish> hi all
[17:08] <bizarrefish> how would i go about uninstalling a large amount of packages i recently installed
[17:08] <grawity> How did you install them?
[17:08] <bizarrefish> is there some kind of "roll back" feature where you can 'undo' recent installations?
[17:08] <FiReSTaRT> bizarrefish:  synaptic? :)
[17:08] <bizarrefish> grawity: they came in with kde 3.5
[17:08] <KittyKat> thanks ctmjr
[17:08] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: sudo apt-get purge  package1 package2 package3 package4  etc etc,  of course if you don't know what you installed, you got a little issue.  also purge does the config files as well, where as remove just does the program
[17:09] <bizarrefish> apt-get install kubuntu-desktop
[17:09]  * FiReSTaRT off to get hopped up on stimulants (caffeine+nicotine) :)
[17:09] <craigbass1976> jrib, how do I get it back on either the desktop or (preferrably) the top or bottom bar?
[17:09] <bin1010> morning all
[17:09] <jerz> hi
[17:09] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: oh you did Kubuntu?
[17:09] <bizarrefish> is there a log somewhere, which details packages?
[17:09] <bizarrefish> sebsebseb: yes
[17:09] <jrib> craigbass1976: right click -> add to panel
[17:09] <sebsebseb> !puregnone | bizarrefish
[17:10] <sebsebseb> !puregnome |  bizarrefish
[17:10] <ctmjr> KittyKat, your welcome
[17:10] <bizarrefish> ah hah! ty :)
[17:11] <craigbass1976> jrib, Doh!  Thanks.  Long week and I'm cooked or I'd have probably found that
[17:11] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: np,  by the way why you want to get rid of that?  and yeah I don't like KDE4 as a GUI, but I do use some KDE apps in Gnome :)
[17:11] <bizarrefish> sebsebseb: because my HDD is smaller than i thought
[17:11] <bizarrefish> KDE filled it up
[17:11] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: how big is your / ?
[17:11] <bizarrefish> s/KDE/kubuntu
[17:12] <bizarrefish> sebsebseb:
[17:12] <bizarrefish> Filesystem            Size  Used Avail Use% Mounted on
[17:12] <bizarrefish> /dev/sda2              15G   14G  326M  98% /
[17:12] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: that's with /home as part of it?
[17:12] <bizarrefish> indeedy
[17:12] <bin1010> I have a package dependency problem....Luckily they are development libraries, so not so bad.  Apparrently when I installed kompozer-dev and later mozilla-dev I have libnss3-dev: Depends: libnspr4-dev but it is not installed, xulrunner-1.9-dev: Depends: libnspr4-dev but it is not installed....If I run apt-get -f install, it tries to install that package, but fails with dpkg: error processing /var/cache/apt/archives/libnspr4-dev_4.7.3-0ubuntu
[17:12] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: yep stuff like that happens then  with that kind of size
[17:12] <arundyal> hey i am new to it, whats this by the way
[17:12] <bizarrefish> back when i set up this machine, i didn't know the value of a separate home partition
[17:12] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: it's good idea to do like 12GB or so for /  and then have a big seperate home
[17:12]  * bizarrefish has since learned
[17:12] <bizarrefish> :)
[17:13] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: a seperate home can be set up afterwoulds, but it might not be that stragiht forward
[17:13] <arundyal> can anyone hear me
[17:13] <sebsebseb> !home | bizarrefish
[17:13] <grawity> arundyal: yes, we can hear you.
[17:13] <bizarrefish> sebsebseb: either way, it's more straightforward than a separate /usr, which i have on my eeePC
[17:13] <sebsebseb> arundyal: no, but I can read you
[17:13] <grawity> Same thing.
[17:13] <cmdshftn> thanks for the link ubottu, I've been meaning to check that out for some time...
[17:13] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: I don't think seperate /usrs are really needed
[17:14] <arundyal> thnx i am new to it, whats generally talked here
[17:14] <bizarrefish> sebsebseb: they are when the OS lives on a 4GB hard disk
[17:14] <sebsebseb> bizarrefish: I see right yeah, a netbook
[17:14] <bizarrefish> indeedy-o
[17:14] <grawity> arundyal: You're on the Freenode IRC network - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/IRC . This channel is #ubuntu, the help channel for Ubuntu operating system.
[17:14] <Joeseph> What's the difference between an irc channel with one "#" and two "##"?
[17:14]  * grawity thinks that could be in ubottu
[17:14] <ctmjr> !topic
[17:14] <arundyal> kk thanx for the info,
[17:14] <Guest287> how to install pdf plugin for firefox?i cant view pdf file on firefox now
[17:15] <grawity> Joeseph: The ones with two #'s are in "secondary namespace" according to Freenode IRC policies. Ask in #freenode for more information
[17:15] <Joeseph> grawity: Thanks.
[17:15] <sebsebseb> Joeseph: basically # is offical and ## is unoffical
[17:15] <bizarrefish> #channels are for organizations/projects
[17:15] <bizarrefish> ##is anything else
[17:16] <Joeseph> sebsebseb, bizarrefish: Thanks.   Makes sense.
[17:16] <deili79> OooOooooo
[17:16] <Guest287> pdf problem
[17:16] <arundyal> well grawity to know the extent of this chat system, is it international relay chat or limited to small regions
[17:16] <Bennit> hi guys, anyone can help me with some wireless problem? (its perfectly discribed on this thread: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=496005 )
[17:16] <Bennit> the bottom reply says it all
[17:17] <grawity> arundyal: the Freenode network, like most, is international.
[17:17] <Sjord> Guest287: Do you have a PDF program installed? Does Firefox start it to open PDFs with it?
[17:17] <imc_> I need to delete a user, create a new one and have the new user own all the old user's files. How can I do it?
[17:17] <Guest287> i think=no
[17:17] <Sjord> imc_: deluser, adduser, find
[17:17] <imc_> I don't want the new user to have the old user's home dir
[17:17] <ctmjr> Guest287,  go to firefoxes addon page and search pdf
[17:17] <jrib> imc_: I'm guessing you didn't sort out your issue?
[17:18] <imc_> Nope
[17:18] <rsr> hello
[17:18] <arundyal> grawity: and who manages it, i mean is thr any moderator
[17:18] <Um_cara_qualquer> anyone knows where the ubuntu theme is saved?
[17:18] <jrib> imc_: you tried renaming ~/.gnome2/ and ~/.gconf* ?
[17:18] <Guest287> i try
[17:18] <imc_> jrib unless you still want to take a few cracks, I can update you on ...
[17:18] <rsr>  I have two ubuntu machines acting as gateways. They both have exactly the same services but one has the ip 209 and the other has 210. Is it possible for me to make a script to change 210's ip to 209 in case internet connection fails on 209? it will then take place of the other server in case of a downtime.
[17:18] <jrib> Um_cara_qualquer: /usr/share/themes/ I imagine (name is "Human")
[17:18] <Um_cara_qualquer> lets see
[17:18] <deili79> qualche italiano ??
[17:19] <ctmjr> !it
[17:19] <Joeseph> Bennit:   Try either doing "sudo modprobe ndiswrapper' or take out the device (if it is USB) and try 'sudo modprobe -r ndiswrapper; sudo modprobe ndiswrapper'  That's my advice.
[17:19] <Guest287> i think de4,i maybe nid adobe reader
[17:19] <imc_> jrib, actually yes I did that. What happens now is I get a panel with the standard ubuntu netbook remix desktop BUT no files onthe desktop or bottom task bar or application launchers
[17:19] <imc_> All my files are in the ~/ dir
[17:19] <Guest287> it sound like acroread..or maybe i forgot
[17:19] <imc_> It's a bit frustrating ;)
[17:19] <jrib> imc_: weird
[17:20] <imc_> I was hoping to simply open a new user and import all the old one's files
[17:20] <Um_cara_qualquer> jrib humm... i named my currently theme as another name but it isn't there
[17:20] <jrib> imc_: easiest way to do that is to create new user, copy files you want, chown -R NEWUSER: ~NEWUSER
[17:20] <imc_> yeah,
[17:20] <jrib> Um_cara_qualquer: your user's themes go to ~/.themes
[17:21] <imc_> I was hoping for automagic but you're right
[17:21] <musicpenguin> anyone using compiz? :)
[17:21] <Bennit> Joeseph: that command keeps telling me "All cfg files need .conf: /etc/modprobe.d/ndiswrapper, it will be ignored in a future release", ignore that warning?
[17:21] <imc_> Thanks for the help
[17:21] <Um_cara_qualquer> ah
[17:21] <Joeseph> Bennit: Thats what I have been doing; does the same to me.    Do either of those help though? That's all I can think of.
[17:21] <Bennit> btw, how do I say that ubunty shouldn't use the driver that came along but the driver provided by ndiswrapper?
[17:21] <grawity> Question. How do I get rid of the Xubuntu boot screen and get the Ubuntu one?
[17:21] <bizarrefish> is there a way i can remove all packages that were downloaded from a certain repository?
[17:21] <jrib> !wifi > Bennit
[17:21] <bin1010> just tried sudo aptitude -f remove, that doesn't work either
[17:21] <jrib> bizarrefish: yes and no and not easily
[17:22]  * bizarrefish tries to remember how to use sed
[17:22] <tiro> installed avg antivirus, it creates in the home directory folder Desktop
[17:22] <Um_cara_qualquer> jrib thx brother
[17:22] <Bennit> jrib: i already read that wiki page but it's outdated a bit
[17:22] <sebsebseb> !virus |  trio
[17:22] <tiro> what is it?
[17:22] <jrib> grawity: dpkg-reconfigure <proper usplash package> would be my first guess
[17:22] <sebsebseb> tiro: see above
[17:22] <Bennit> (as in: "it says go visit System > Preferences > Network Configuration" which doesn't exist
[17:22] <Bennit> and neither of network manager as network tools works
[17:22]  * bizarrefish wonders how tiro got AVG for linux
[17:22] <ctmjr> musicpenguin, there is a compiz channel #compiz you might get better help there
[17:22] <jrib> Bennit: the way to use ndiswrapper should be the same.  But using ndiswrapper in itself seems outdated.  Are you sure you need to?
[17:23] <Guest287> cant find packages name acroread
[17:23] <jrib> Guest287: what arhc?
[17:23] <Joeseph> Bennit: I had a similair problem, except mine just wouldn't stay connected to the net for longer than 5 seconds..  My problem was that I need the latest drivers. (and I needed to modprobe it).      Good luck though.
[17:23] <jrib> arch even
[17:23] <aurilliance> When I press ctrl+alt+f1-6 instead of getting the termianl, I get a blank screen. Is anyone else getting this?
[17:23] <Bennit> well, i've tried with the generic drivers that come from a clean jaunty install
[17:23] <grawity> jrib: usplash-theme-ubuntu?
[17:23] <jrib> aurilliance: bugs.ubuntu.com has a bug waiting for you
[17:23] <musicpenguin> ctmjr, thanks :)
[17:23] <jrib> aurilliance: (to read)
[17:23] <jrib> grawity: probably
[17:23] <Bennit> but i can't update since I'm on a place where I can't reach any wired connection
[17:23] <Guest287> archlinux??i use ubuntu
[17:23] <tiro> yes for linux
[17:23] <ctmjr> musicpenguin, your welcome
[17:23] <jrib> Guest287: what architecture? 64bit or 32bit?
[17:24] <jrib> !who | Guest287
[17:24] <Guest287> owh..32 i think
[17:24] <jrib> Guest287: enable canonical's partner repository
[17:24] <jrib> !repos > Qu4R0w
[17:24] <Qu4R0w> how to add repos?
[17:24] <halberd> what are the steps ubuntu takes, when you plug in a device?
[17:24] <yurivr> hello im new to compiling. im at the "make" stage for Xlt (something  i need to tether my blackberry) but i get "returned error 1" and "returned error 2" whats going on and how do i debug?
[17:24] <halberd> until the point when it is recognized as a device and starts working
[17:25] <Bennit> also, does anyone know what's with the sound bug @ startup, it's been here ever since jaunty got released on quiet a few different machines for me
[17:25] <Bennit> as in: *SHSHHHRHRHHRHRHRHR - part of ubuntu sound - done logging into gnome wm"
[17:25] <jrib> Bennit: best to check the actual bug at bugs.ubuntu.com if you're interested in status
[17:25] <bin1010> can you remove packages added with build-dep?  like apt-get remove build-dep blah?
[17:25] <Sjord> yurivr: Look for a compiler error above the "error 1"
[17:26] <Sjord> bin1010: you may want to try apt-get autoremove
[17:26] <tkb> can i compiz on ubuntu netbook remix?
[17:26] <Joeseph> halberd: I'm interested in the same thing.  Don't know where to find it though....
[17:27] <jrib> halberd: why do you actually want to know?  Is something broken?
[17:27] <bin1010> dang it, apt-get autoremove says missing same dependencies.
[17:27] <yurivr> Sjord: i think i figured it out. thanks
[17:27] <Zathara> hello everyone!
[17:27] <Qu4R0w> how can i install "aurora"?
[17:27] <aurilliance> jrib: thanks ^^^
[17:27] <Sjord> yurivr: Most often, you are missing a dependeny. You can install all build dependecies using apt build-dep
[17:27] <Qu4R0w> got error when apply theme
[17:28] <aurilliance> another q: I have the "won't hibernate / suspend" issue (9.04) that is already known as a bug is it? are there any workarounds or a site I can be directed to?
[17:28] <vsingh165> hello all
[17:28] <jawall> Having issues wiping drive.  Ubuntu 9/04 for PPC, eMac, 160 gig drive.  Booted to Live CD, ran Gparted, it first showed several small partitions with unknown formats, tried to delete and it wouldn't let me. I then used DBAN to completely wipe the drive, but it would only do 152 gigs of the drive.  I installed Ubuntu, and it also only shows the 152 gigs,,, I'm out of ideas on how to recover the rest of this drive.  Any ideas would be greatly
[17:28] <jawall>  appreciated.
[17:29] <vsingh165> jawall: a 160gb drive isn't going to exactly be 160gb of space
[17:29] <vsingh165> jawall: but then again you shouldn't be short 8gb b/c of tha
[17:30] <sebsebseb> aurilliance: that is not a bug exactly, I think it's mainly a kernel issue, well depends
[17:30] <dakira> hi.. i'm looking for a way to make an image of a 500gb partition (with only about 10gb used).. dd seems to be very slow and the target file will have a size of 500gb instead of 10gb.. any sugguestions? the solution doesn't have to be forensically sound
[17:30] <sebsebseb> aurilliance: what people say though, is you need double  your RAM as  SWAP space, before you can even  hibernate/sleep
[17:30] <jrib> dakira: partimage
[17:30] <aurilliance> sebsebseb: *double* ? I thought it was only more than ram size... ok. I've got 4g ram, so ill try gparting later... ty
[17:30] <Bennit> hooraay, problem fixed, on a very weird and stupid way: rebooted after that ndiswrapper driver install & modprobing, now my machine doesn't recognize the wifi card anymore
[17:30] <Bennit> so it doesn't conflict anymore with my working usb n adapter
[17:31] <Bennit> which does work :p
[17:31] <jawall> it is technically 163 gigs
[17:31] <dakira> jrib, thx
[17:31] <sebsebseb> aurilliance: yeah I think even with 4GB RAM,  meant to put  8GB for SWAP
[17:31] <Bennit> after exam period i'll try to get the real wifiadapter to work :p
[17:31] <sebsebseb> !swap > aurilliance
[17:31] <vsingh165> jawall: how did you come to know that it's 163 gb?
[17:31] <Sjord> jawall: 160 GB = 160 times 1000 x 1000 x 1000, whereas a computer sees a GB as 1024 x 1024 x 1024, hence the difference between what's advertised and what's shown on the computer.
[17:31] <jawall> it should show 160 gigs on the 163 gig drive
[17:31] <aurilliance> ty
[17:31] <Jeruvy> dakira: a image tool will image the partition.  If you just want a backup, use a backup tool or rsync..
[17:31] <vsingh165> Sjord: its 160 x 1024^3
[17:31] <sebsebseb> aurilliance: ,but only if going to hibernate/suspend,  8GB SWAP is a lot
[17:32] <jawall> That isn't it... it previously showed 160 gigs,, where as the drive is really 163 gigs,
[17:32] <jawall> plus 8 gigs taken and several small partitiions with unknown filesystems?
[17:32] <aurilliance> thts what I though sebsebseb (a lot) but illl try it. I've got 160 to spare lol
[17:32] <Sjord> vsingh165: Yes, that's my point. Disk manufactorers use kilobytes of 1000, not 1024.
[17:32] <kam00zy> ok guys ive got one for yall :P
[17:32] <kam00zy> ive got dual monitors... and i want a diff backgrond for each one... how do i do this? :)
[17:33] <vsingh165> jawall: a lot of times computer manufacturers put a hidden partition or two on the disk either at the beginning or the end
[17:33] <vsingh165> jawall: maybe gparted isn't seeing those
[17:33] <vsingh165> and wipe may have ignored them
[17:33] <Threetimes> hi, I'm using Opera qt4 static. How do I let it use GTK+? qt4 should do this.
[17:33] <jawall> dban ignored them, ubuntu partitioning igrnoed them
[17:33] <aurilliance> q: How can I check what processor is installed (amd/intel?)
[17:33] <jawall> weird thing is...
[17:34] <jawall> this didn't happen with osx...
[17:34] <Sjord> aurilliance: cat /proc/cpunifo
[17:34] <Sjord> aurilliance: cat /proc/cpuinfo
[17:34] <aurilliance> ty (quick!)
[17:34] <Threetimes> aurilliance: gnome-system-monitor, first tab
[17:34] <jawall> there were something like 5-10 small partitions with unknown filesystems
[17:34] <waters> Hi .. when i start ubuntu (a new install) all i get is a blank screen .. i can ctrl+alt+f1 and get to a console ... when i go dmsg i get this error: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter} *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 1.. Anyone got time to help?
[17:34] <jawall> very weird
[17:34] <vsingh165> jawall: is this on a mac?
[17:35] <jawall> yep
[17:35] <jawall> ppc
[17:35] <bobsomebody> hello #ubuntu
[17:35] <tkb> i can't apt-get update on ubuntu 7.04.
[17:35] <vsingh165> im not sure how ubuntu would behave on a ppc
[17:35] <vsingh165> or a macintel
[17:35] <jrib> !7.04 | tkb
[17:35] <jawall> it behaves fine,,,
[17:35] <vsingh165> sorry i was of no help
[17:35] <bobsomebody> tkb, im having the same issue on desktop updates, 7.10 though
[17:35] <jawall> just the drive problem
[17:35] <Iliktruz> Hi Everyone
[17:35] <jrib> !7.10 | bobsomebody
[17:35] <vsingh165> namaste.
[17:35] <bobsomebody> awwwwww
[17:35]  * bobsomebody kicks a fit
[17:36] <bobsomebody> i knew i should have ran the _____ update
[17:36] <bobsomebody> lol
[17:36] <jrib> bobsomebody: you can update now...
[17:36] <bobsomebody> does anyone know if they patched the synergy bug in newer versions?
[17:36]  * vsingh165 is wondering if there are any sound experts here.
[17:36] <aurilliance> not me
[17:36] <tkb> oh, thanks
[17:36] <vsingh165> its not anything ubuntu related
[17:36] <jrib> bobsomebody: I imagine "the synergy bug" may be a tad non-specific
[17:36] <vsingh165> but i am using hydrogen to generate drum loops
[17:36] <rbd> hey guys... is it possible to use wildcard patterns in a syslog-ng source? (seems it's not something offered in the open source edition)
[17:36] <aurilliance> what do I have to do to get flash working under ubuntu? or is it just me?
[17:36] <jrib> !ot | vsingh165
[17:37] <jrib> aurilliance: install flash
[17:37] <bobsomebody> they changed something in the shell, where all processes get equal priority or something along those lines
[17:37] <aurilliance> jrib: Ill try re-installing, I still get probs after it...
[17:37] <jrib> bobsomebody: check bugs.ubuntu.com for the status of "the bug"
[17:37] <vsingh165> aurillance: install the flashplugin-nonfree package
[17:37] <Threetimes> Hi, I'm using Opera qt4 static. How do I let it use GTK+? qt4 should do this.
[17:37] <vsingh165> thru synaptic
[17:37] <waters> Hi .. when i start ubuntu (a new install) all i get is a blank screen .. i can ctrl+alt+f1 and get to a console ... when i go dmsg i get this error: [drm:i915_get_vblank_counter} *ERROR* trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 1.. Anyone got time to help?
[17:37] <kam00zy> ive got dual monitors... and i want a diff backgrond for each one... how do i do this? :)
[17:37] <Joeseph> aurilliance: I believe the package to install is 'flash-plugin-nonfree' hence 'sudo apt-get install flash-plugin-nonfree'
[17:38] <bobsomebody> jrib, yeah its on my todo i was just curious to see if there was another synergy user with an up-to-date (or more up-to) system than I have
[17:38] <Eloi> #ubuntu-fr
[17:38] <Threetimes> Hi, I'm using Opera (qt4 static build) in gnome. It's ugly. How do I let it use GTK+? qt4 should do this.
[17:39] <Sjord> kam00zy: Not possible.
[17:39] <kam00zy> aww
[17:39] <kam00zy> why not? :(
[17:39] <KewL_> has anybody compiled bluez
[17:40] <Sjord> kam00zy: Maybe you can create an image which spans over both your monitors.
[17:40] <bobsomebody> kam00zy, unless your running the old xinerama setups i think the only way to do it is like sjord said
[17:41] <bobsomebody> i think xrandr (or something like that) replaced xinerama as of 7.10
[17:41] <imc_> jrib - it was .nautilus causing all the ruckus. Thanks to you and to Slart for the patient help
[17:41] <Threetimes> Hi, I'm using Opera (qt4 static build) in gnome. It's ugly. How do I let it use GTK+? qt4 should do this.
[17:42] <Sjord> Threetimes: Have you tried in ##opera?
[17:42] <Threetimes> Sjord: not yet, I didn't knew there's a opera channe; :p
[17:43] <grawity> Threetimes: There's an Opera IRC network, even
[17:45] <antoranz> Hi, guys!
[17:45] <antoranz> I'm sorry, do you know how to convert an RSA key to PKCS?
[17:46] <Corbeau> hi all
[17:46] <bobsomebody> hello
[17:49] <cousin_luigi> hello
[17:49] <cousin_luigi> can you recommend a tray-iconifier extension for thunderbird?
[17:50] <Joeseph> waters: What commands have you tried running at the prompt?  Have you tried starting gnome, the display manager, or the login screen?
[17:51] <waters> Joeseph: . No ..
[17:51] <linkdd> hi
[17:51] <Joeseph> waters: Try sudo gdm.
[17:51] <blabj> Hello, I'm having some problems installing wine on Jaunty 64bit
[17:52] <blabj> It's saying it's failing to get dependancies
[17:52] <jrib> blabj: pastebin
[17:52] <blabj> sec
[17:52] <waters> running
[17:52] <waters> already running
[17:52] <linkdd> I search to mount my external HD formatted as UFS filesystem, but the actual kernel support is only in Read-Only
[17:52] <Lemonzest> cousin_luigi: rawr
[17:52] <billybigrigger> blabj::: add the wino repos, and sudo apt-get install wine
[17:52] <blabj> http://pastebin.ca/1465054
[17:52] <Joeseph> waters: It says that it is already running?
[17:52] <linkdd> I try to recompile the kernel with the write-support
[17:52] <linkdd> but I have this error :
[17:52] <cousin_luigi> Lemonzest: meow
[17:52] <waters> yes .. and with startx
[17:52] <blabj> I've added repos from budgetdedicated
[17:52] <superbeef> Would one consider the /etc/init.d/networking script to have a bug if restarting networking does not remove interfaces previously defined in /etc/networ/interfaces?   (in this case, I removed an alias from my interfaces definition, but the aliased interface was not removed when I restarted, causing a conflict)
[17:52] <blabj> and yes i added the jaunty list :/
[17:52] <jrib> blabj: pastebin your /etc/apt/sources.list*
[17:53] <blabj> kk
[17:53] <jrib> !who | blabj
[17:53] <linkdd> the compilation failed at kernel/bounds.c
[17:53] <zanberdo> question: can I upgrade my existing install (ubuntu 8.10) from 32bit to 64bit or do I have to do a fresh install?
[17:53] <jrib> zanberdo: fresh install
[17:53] <blabj> Okay ubottu
[17:53] <zanberdo> jrib, ok, that's what I thought. thanks
[17:54] <Joeseph> waters: What does typing 'gedit' do? how about 'nano'?
[17:54] <waters> that all works
[17:54] <kandinski> I have a fresh install of jaunty with a problem: X starts but I only see the cursor on a black background. Intrepid worked fine on the same hardware (a centrino laptop with a nvidia geforce go 5200). Can anybody help me get to my Gnome desktop?
[17:54] <Zathara> Anyone, can tell me. How to block usb devices on the ubuntu?
[17:54] <Corbeau> block usb device -->  fstab ?
[17:55] <Joeseph> waters: So 'gedit' brought up a window?
[17:55] <Zathara> Corbeau: how?
[17:55] <Sjord> Zathara: Remove kernel drivers
[17:56] <blabj> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1465059
[17:56] <waters> sorry .. no .. gedit did not .. cannot open display
[17:56] <tunnlrat> Well i broke ubuntu
[17:56] <tunnlrat> >.<
[17:56] <jerz> hi
[17:56] <jrib> blabj: confirm you have nothing in /etc/apt/sources.list.d?
[17:56] <Corbeau> good idea Sjord, but if he wants use usb later, he must rebuild kernel
[17:56] <tunnlrat> Note for everyone that wants to try Dual booting different versions of linux, install ubuntu last, cause it fixes everything else and makes them all work lol
[17:57] <Zathara> Sjord: i won't this.. =\ i need fast soluction for on and off... you no?
[17:57] <nicolas2> hi everyone
[17:57] <blabj> jrib: contains "winehq.list"
[17:57] <jrib> blabj: pastebin
[17:57] <Corbeau> with fstab, you can set rule for mounting device, i think you can set specific rules to unaible mount on USB
[17:58] <Zathara> Corbeau: how to block device usb on the fstab. For example: just root can mount usb devices
[17:58] <Sjord> Zathara: Maybe you can disable automounting.
[17:58] <blabj> jrib: only line uncommented is "deb http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt jaunty main #WineHQ - Ubuntu 9.04 "Jaunty Jackalope" "
[17:58] <Joeseph> waters: Okay.   What I would do, is start a thread on the ubuntuforums.  That way, you can have all your info in one place, and can easily bring people back up to speed with your problem.  I also find larger problems are more likely to be dealt with in the forums.  I would put your most relevant hardware to. (CPU, Graphics Card, RAM, maybe monitor if you want to.
[17:58] <jrib> blabj: apt-cache policy ia32-libs
[17:59] <blabj> pastebin that?
[17:59] <Joeseph> waters: It's not as immediate, but I bet you'll get some answers within a day or two.  Keep trying here to.
[17:59] <jrib> blabj: sure
[17:59] <tunnlrat> Joeseph, I did what i told you i was going to do this morning and broke my system, installed mandriva on a separate HD, re-installed Ubuntu and it fixed both and now i can boot into either
[17:59] <blabj> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1465062
[17:59] <waters> ok .. thanks for your time
[18:00] <Corbeau> fstab : http://f3wm.free.fr/linux/fstab.html
[18:00] <blabj> Looks like OVH (my hosting suppliers...) are getting in the way?
[18:00] <choi> kandinski: i think many people experienced the same problem upgrading, although i don't know anything about it, I saw a lot of them on the forums
[18:00] <Joeseph> tunnlrat: Well.... That's good that it is fixed..... I hope I didn't brake your system by my suggestions though!
[18:01] <jrib> blabj: why do you say that?
[18:01] <blabj> jrib: well they seem to be adding a lot of their own repos?
[18:01] <tunnlrat> Joeseph, Naw i broke itmyself by accident lol i let mandriva mess with the partitions, once i did a repair install with Ubuntu it actually fixed the boot loader list and i can now boot into either, imma try add Fedora onto my third drive and see if i can boot all 3, all i can say though is ubuntu is awesome, it fixed itself and mandriva
[18:02] <jrib> blabj: what happens when you do « sudo apt-get install ia32-libs »?
[18:02] <Joeseph> tunnlrat: Nice.  Good luck.
[18:02] <blabj> jrib: various unmet dependancies, will pastebin them now
[18:02] <rubystallion> Normally in nautilus I could press the first letter of a file or directory to select it. Now it doesn't work anymore. How can I correct this?
[18:02] <jrib> blabj: run sudo apt-get update first and include that
[18:03] <blabj> jrib: pastebin you the ssh log of running apt-get update?
[18:03] <blabj> Or re-run apt-get instal ia32-libs, jrib ?
[18:03] <Eloi> #ubuntu-fr
[18:04] <jrib> blabj: pastebin the output of « sudo apt-get update; sudo apt-get install ia32-libs »
[18:04] <vassler> Can someone tell me if my streaming video playback is jerky, sound is okay, i believe its software related, anyone with an idea? ubuntu 9.04
[18:05] <tunnlrat> vassler, what program are you using to watch the videos
[18:05] <blabj> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1465073
[18:05] <tunnlrat> vassler, and what kind of video, video from a dvd in the drive something from youtube or a video right off your HD?
[18:05] <AceKing> Hi everyone.. Does anyone know how to change the number of "Recent Documents" listed in places?
[18:06] <vassler> tunnlrat: when I use firefox and look at video from youtube.com
[18:06] <jrib> blabj: sudo apt-get install lib32gcc1
[18:06] <tunnlrat> vassler, have you tried just using movie player to watch videos off youtube??
[18:07] <Xeccos> i no longer have permission to use sudoers file (so I can't sudo),  gdm can't start, nor can avahi (which might be stopping dbus), and if i 'startx' keyboard and mouse stop working, help would be appreciated, thx
[18:07] <vassler> tunnlrat: I wouldn't know how?
[18:07] <blabj> jrib: still saying it needs dependencies to install that: gcc-4.3-base, libc6-i386
[18:07] <tunnlrat> vassler, its under applications>sound&video and its called movie player
[18:07] <kandinski> choi: thanks, but I can't find any advice on how to fix it, all I get is people having the problem on intel platforms during the beta
[18:07] <blabj> jrib: in particular: gcc-4.3-base (= 4.3.2-2ubuntu9) but 4.3.3-5ubuntu4 is to be installed
[18:08] <chattogirl> hi all - anyone familar with acx_mac80211 wlan stack drivers?
[18:08] <jrib> blabj: cool, apt-cache policy gcc-4.3-base
[18:08] <thiebaude> ActionParsnip: bonjour
[18:08] <tunnlrat> vassler, if you click on the playlist drop down menu, you can use it to search youtube, it will buffer videos before playing them didn't give me as much problems as running right off firefox
[18:08] <blabj> jrib: http://pastebin.ca/1465075
[18:08] <Xeccos> (linuxmint 7, which is based on ubuntu 9.04)
[18:08] <tunnlrat> vassler, you might want to look into getting VLC, the codecs that come along with that solve alot of video issues as well
[18:09] <kandinski> choi: yay empty xorg.conf
[18:09] <jrib> blabj: now, why is a version installed later than what is in your repos?
[18:09] <scorpionica> hello, can anybody help with installing skype on ubuntu jaunty?
[18:09] <Dr_Willis> !skype
[18:09] <choi> kandinski: whoa.
[18:09] <jrib> blabj: did you change mirrors recently?
[18:09] <ActionParsnip> hola
[18:09] <scorpionica> cheers bud
[18:10] <blabj> jrib: It's a very new installation, the only repos I've added are budgetdedicated.com's
[18:10] <jrib> blabj: pick a better repository mirror.  Yours is outdated
[18:10] <chattogirl> need help - with acx wlan card - ndis does only crap wont connect
[18:10] <kandinski> choi: whoa indeed, this is a fresh, totally unmessed with install
[18:10] <marko-_-> what the hell is wrong with jaunty ? no offence but nothing works
[18:10] <jrib> marko-_-: ask a specific question if you want help
[18:10] <Dr_Willis> marko-_-:  ive had no problems with it.. so whatever...  see what jrib  said.
[18:10] <kandinski> net install too, so it can't be that I have old media with old buggy files
[18:10] <marko-_-> i can install stuf only with apt-get, add/remove just says it can't install the packages and synaptic doesn't even load
[18:10] <blabj> jrib: could you suggest a better mirror or should i just google around a bit?
[18:11] <kabboo> hey i bought a new laptop before 1 month it came with vista  and then i removed it an installed ubuntu but the bluetooth isnt working
[18:11] <jrib> blabj: system -> administration -> software sources  can :)
[18:11] <choi> kandinski: video problem. maybe something wrong with the cd?
[18:11] <blabj> I don't have physical access to the box, at the moment im doing it all through ssh :/
[18:11] <choi> kandinski: was the livecd working when you tried it?
[18:11] <marko-_-> i downloaded the flash viewer from adobe and want to load it the GUI program just dissapears after i type my password and with dpkg it just says "error were encounared"
[18:11] <marko-_-> so please, hep.
[18:11] <marko-_-> help*
[18:11] <vassler> tunnlrat: thanks for the help, this will work great. :)
[18:11] <tunnlrat> marko-_-, i haven't had any problems with jaunty i just did a full install added my wine stuff etc downloaded added adobe through synaptic and world of warcraft is download/installing
[18:12] <marko-_-> it was a clean install with all the partitions formated only /homenot
[18:12] <blabj> Sorry jrib wasn't sure if you got that: I don't have physical access to the box, at the moment im doing it all through ssh :/
[18:12] <tunnlrat> vassler, excellent!!! enjoy bud
[18:12] <AceKing> Does anyone know how to change the number of "Recent Documents" listed in "Places"? Or even delete "Recent Documents"?
[18:12] <Joeseph> Does Thunderbird use Jaunty's notification system?
[18:12] <kandinski> choi: I have no optic drive, so I did a PXE install
[18:12] <gartral> Is this warning something I need too worry about?
[18:12] <blabj> jrib: And can't install vnc because it's telling me it's missing dependancies, lmao
[18:12] <jrib> blabj: use us.archive.ubuntu.com if you are in the US
[18:12] <gartral> http://gar.pastebin.com/f51f02d02 <.< sorry
[18:12] <marko-_-> i can install stuf only with apt-get, add/remove just says it can't install the packages and synaptic doesn't even load. i downloaded the flash viewer from adobe and want to load it the GUI program just dissapears after i type my password and with dpkg it just says "error were encountared".
[18:12] <marko-_-> ^ help:)
[18:12] <blabj> jrib: gb.archive... for UK right?
[18:13] <bullgard4> 'man ekiga': "Ekiga supports CALL TO URLs". What is a 'CALL TO URL'?
[18:13] <Xeccos> I was trying to install the driver package for one of my printers (samsung CLP-510), but the installation froze trying to restart CUPS; at that point I couldn't sudo, so I couldn't kill it; I rebooted and thought I would just be able to try again, but now gdm and avahi don't start, but if I login from command line and 'startx' keyboard and mouse are nonfunctional (can't return to console with ctrl+alt+f1/f2/etc. , can't turn o
[18:13] <Xeccos> n numlock)
[18:13] <jrib> blabj: yep
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> I just normally 'sudo apt-get install ubuntu-restricted-extras' and it grabs flash and some other parts i always want.
[18:13] <tunnlrat> AceKing, open places > recent documents and when you mouse over it, the bottom will give you the option to wipe your recent documents
[18:13] <Dr_Willis> No need to go  to the adobe site
[18:14] <Dragon-Do> Ubuntu -.-
[18:14] <marko-_-> Dr_Willis, that's not the point, everyting else is not working !
[18:14] <marko-_-> sorry for the !
[18:14] <Dragon-Do> On ubuntu u cant fking install anything
[18:14] <Dr_Willis> marko-_-:  you asked how to do a specific thing.. i answered you. as for the apt stuff goofing up no idea. run the progs from a terminal and look for error messages
[18:14] <jrib> !software > Dragon-Do
[18:14] <jrib> !language | Dragon-Do
[18:14] <AceKing> tunnirat: I know how to do that, I would like to do away with it all together
[18:14] <kabboo> my bluetooth isnt working i need help
[18:15] <choi> kadinsky: i see. sorry i think its a bit complicated for me. :( i don't even know what's in xorg.conf. it was auto configured on mine
[18:15] <AceKing> tunnirat: It doesn't show up in "Menu edit" either
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[18:15] <tunnlrat> AceKing, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=556592
[18:15] <Dr_Willis> !bluetooth
[18:15] <pumpkinseed> Hello Everyone. I just installed the new Linux 2.6.28-13-generic Kernel in Ubuntu (I'm running 9.04 64bit). After restarting my sound stopped working. My sound card is a Sound Blaster Audigy 4. Can anyone help?
[18:16] <AceKing> tunnirat: Thanks
[18:16] <tunnlrat> AceKing, Np =)
[18:16] <petx> !netmask
[18:16] <chattogirl> http://pastebin.com/m248c0f65
[18:16] <chattogirl> my fault?
[18:18] <sipior> chattogirl: you might try posting that in #ubuntu-de, the error messages are a little hard to make out :-)
[18:18] <chattogirl> ohh ok sorry - went back later
[18:19] <megapowa> hy
[18:20] <drummrx> hello
[18:20] <soa> how to change enviromental vairables on ubuntu?
[18:20] <drummrx> have a question when someone gets the time
[18:20] <Sjord> soa: export VAR=123
[18:20] <apollo13> soa: as you'd do it on every other linux system
[18:20] <roobly_roo> soa: You'll probably want to export their values from your local bashrc
[18:20] <apollo13> drummrx: don't ask to ask, just ask
[18:21] <del_diablo> where is the config files for startup, icons, themes, mouse cursors located? Ubuntu using openbox
[18:21] <Joeseph> !ask | drummrx
[18:21] <wubrgamer> Is there a way to minimize totem to the system tray?
[18:21] <soa> no i just want change my language to utf8 as default
[18:21] <megapowa> can anyone help me to install a hp laserjet 1020 printer I tried this : http://www.linuxhaxor.net//2008/01/10/installing-hp-laserjet-1020-on-ubuntu/ but it worked only once
[18:21] <del_diablo> wubrgamer: alltray?
[18:21] <drummrx> thanks. Have 9.04 on a laptop. Having an issue with Ubuntu not turning on the cpu fan so it overheats quick
[18:21] <del_diablo> wubrgamer: its a app
[18:21] <megapowa> I have 9.04 ubuntu
[18:21] <drummrx> Is there an app that solves this?
[18:22] <gartral> http://gar.pastebin.com/f51f02d02 <- should I be worried about this before I restart my computer?
[18:22] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - what laptop do you use?
[18:22] <wubrgamer> del_diablo: I would prefer a native to the program solution
[18:22] <del_diablo> wubrgamer: well.......... its purpose to is shove stuff into the tray
[18:22] <Joeseph> drummrx: Out of curiosity, do you know if that happened on previous version of ubuntu ?
[18:22] <drummrx> gateway - mx6439
[18:22] <Dr_Willis> del_diablo:  i would have to say check the openbox docs/guides to set openbox themes.. that would mainly controll the window-title/border decoratons. for gnome apps you sould still use the gnome tools to set the other parts/themes used.
[18:22] <wubrgamer> del_diablo: is there no way to do this natively though?
[18:23] <drummrx> apparently it was doing ths with 8.04 as well
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> alltray is a handy tool.
[18:23] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - but you have acpi on it?
[18:23] <bin1010> d
[18:23] <Xeccos> should I repeat my issue or wait patiently?
[18:23] <del_diablo> Dr_Willis: already did <.< having scim in and out of my system made it worse on the top of that
[18:23] <drummrx> it's a very limited bios so there wasn't a setting for it
[18:23] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - Fn keys work?
[18:23] <drummrx> yes
[18:23] <Dr_Willis> del_diablo:  i never use scim - so cant help there.. last time i even saw/used scim i dident need it.. and it kept running.. so i removed it.
[18:23] <del_diablo> Dr_Willis: And i already edited all config files that is suppose to work, meaning theere is some "special" config files in buntu i need to figure out
[18:23] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - can you check your temp with lm_sensors?
[18:24] <del_diablo> Dr_Willis: ops, my mispelling. SLIM
[18:24] <waters> OK ... get this error .. (EE) intel(0):Failed to pin front buffer: Cannot allocate memory ...
[18:24] <soa> how to set utf8 as default ubuntu language type?
[18:24] <drummrx> think so, let me boot it back up...it will shut down quick due to heat
[18:24] <drummrx> even with cooler under it
[18:25] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - it seems your fan is broken
[18:25] <drummrx> works under the win7 boot
[18:25] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - have you access to it? try clean your laptop with something
[18:25] <lwells> When I use Evolution, my system freezes up and I have to shut down the computer, what could be causing that?
[18:25] <drummrx> soon as Ubuntu is loading it stops
[18:25] <thiebaude> waters: i had that error before in 9.04 when x would freeze
[18:25] <drummrx> did that
[18:25] <lwells> I am on 9.04
[18:25] <megapowa> can somebody help me?
[18:25] <drummrx> not a hardware issue. That's what I thought at first too
[18:26] <waters> hell .. i can't even get it to boot
[18:26] <Slade> What is the repository address for gnome ?
[18:26] <soa> how to set utf8 as default ubuntu language type?
[18:26] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - can you make a test with geekbench to see if it will crash?
[18:26] <flacom> hey all... my system was shutdown in the wrong way, now when I boot is asking me the root password for mantenance, I give that... reboot but is asking me again and again... any ideas?
[18:26] <phaidros> how do i disable compiz on command line?
[18:26] <thiebaude> waters: intel integrated graphics?
[18:26] <waters> yes
[18:26] <Threetimes> Hi, I'm using Opera (qt4 static build) in gnome. It's ugly. How do I let it use GTK+? qt4 should do this.
[18:26] <thiebaude> yep, i have 80815
[18:26] <Xeccos> no answer means repeat..
[18:26] <Xeccos> I was trying to install the driver package for one of my printers (samsung CLP-510), but the installation froze trying to restart CUPS; at that point I couldn't sudo, so I couldn't kill it; I rebooted and thought I would just be able to try again, but now gdm and avahi don't start, but if I login from command line and 'startx' keyboard and mouse are nonfunctional (can't return to console with ctrl+alt+f1/f2/etc. , can't turn o
[18:26] <Xeccos> n numlock)
[18:26] <Guest86176> hello ppl, help pls with skype. It worked and suddenly it stopped working. I mean the microphone. When I make the test call, after recording voice, I hear 2 beeps and that's it...no recorded voice, no nothin
[18:26] <misha> hi need network help - setting up moto q9c to share internet with jaunty
[18:27] <Slade> !gnome
[18:27] <Padhu> Hi to all
[18:27] <phaidros> how do i disable compiz on command line?
[18:27] <cyberghoser1> Hi Padhu
[18:27] <waters> so how did u get around it?
[18:28] <wildc4rd> evening all
[18:28] <Threetimes> phaidros: metacity --replace
[18:28] <phaidros> Threetimes: thanx, didn't think of that :)
[18:28] <roobly_roo> soa: utf8 is not a language; it's a character set.  Maybe check in the font section?
[18:28] <thiebaude> waters: this is what i did,  sudo edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf and added "DRI" "off"  and added Options to device section
[18:28] <waters> Intel 82845g
[18:28] <cyberghoser1> Threetimes - metacity --replace will only change window decoration right?
[18:28] <gartral> Xeccos: at console, login and type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:28] <Threetimes> cyberghoser1: yes
[18:28] <drummrx> no go on lm_sensors
[18:29] <cyberghoser1> Threetimes - but compiz is still enabled
[18:29] <Threetimes> !metacity
[18:29] <del_diablo> What settings in /etc is controlling: mouse cursors, icons, themes, etc?
[18:29] <thiebaude> waters: i still have to have that in my xorg.conf
[18:29] <Xeccos> gotta reboot to do that, brb
[18:29] <Slade> phaidros: why do u want to do it via command line. Go to System, Administration, and Sessions
[18:29] <Slade> take it out from there
[18:29] <phaidros> Threetimes: doesn't help. for that I'd have to be inside X. but I am on Console, so where is compiz set?
[18:29] <Slade> or, on command line, killall -9 compiz
[18:29] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - try a geekbench it will load your cpu at 100%
[18:29] <Threetimes> cyberghoser1: no, you'll replace compiz with metacity.
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> metacity --replace
[18:29] <Dr_Willis> is handy
[18:29] <drummrx> that's a new one to me...is that the actual command?
[18:29] <cyberghoser1> Threetimes - You can do that on the compiz fusion icon also
[18:29] <Threetimes> phaidros: metacity --replace --display=:0
[18:29] <phaidros> Slade: I would if my X wouldn't die in white screen :)
[18:30] <phaidros> Threetimes: thx, I'll try
[18:30] <Dr_Willis> Fusion-icon is a 'must' have tool :)
[18:30] <transMIssion> Good morning
[18:30] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - no you have to download it, google it
[18:30] <Threetimes> cyberghoser1: the icon essiantially does the same as my commands
[18:30] <cyberghoser1> Threetimes - Yup :)
[18:30] <transMIssion> how can I set my irc status to "away"?
[18:30] <fuffalo> My firefox won't start because I "have another instance running already", and when i do sudo kill XXXXX, it accepts the command but doesn't actually kill firefox...any ideas?
[18:30] <misha> hi need network manager help - setting up auto rndis0
[18:30] <drummrx> ok can do that
[18:30] <^Migs^> transMIssion, try #irc
[18:31] <Pici> fuffalo: killall firefox
[18:31] <transMIssion> #irc
[18:31] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - It will make a test on your cpu and will stress it a lot, you may see temperature grow up
[18:31] <fuffalo> did that, it's still running =/
[18:31] <transMIssion> hm doesnt work
[18:31] <v3rtyx> killall -KILL firefox
[18:31] <dansku> where is the iptables-config in ubuntu?
[18:31] <Slade> phaidros: on the command line, do killall -9 compiz
[18:31] <Slade> see if that lets you get into X
[18:31] <fuffalo> v3rtyx: did that, still running
[18:31] <ralphie> hello all, when i installed ubuntu minimal. i accidently selected us-intl as my keyboard type. how do i change that?
[18:32] <v3rtyx> ctrl+alt+esc ?
[18:32] <transMIssion> ^Migs^:  you mean the channel right? Its empty...
[18:32] <Slade> ralphie: go to system, preferences, keyboard
[18:32] <drummrx> ok bouncing 42c-45c
[18:32] <ralphie> Slade: im sorry, i installed minimal. i dont have any of that, where is the xorg configuration file?
[18:32] <phaidros> Threetimes: worked, thanx, now I can disable it permanently via menu.
[18:32] <Slade> ralphie: usually in /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[18:32] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - it might go much up, wait until it finish
[18:32] <^Migs^> transMIssion, here you go: http://lmgtfy.com/?q=set+irc+status+to+away
[18:32] <ralphie> thx
[18:33] <Xeccos> gartral, ok, I cannot sudo, but i can su; i ran that line from su and it failed (Starting Gnome Display Manager...    [Fail])
[18:33] <sipior> fuffalo: firefox uses a lock file, which sometimes sticks around if the browser crashes. look for it in your .mozilla/firefox/<profileid> directory. remove it and try again.
[18:33] <ralphie> not there :(
[18:33] <Xeccos> (it says permission denied regarding the sudoers file)
[18:34] <gartral> Xeccos: this is far beyond me, I recmmend a reinstall..
[18:34] <sipior> fuffalo: or have you verified that a firefox process is actually running? (the error message is not proof that another firefox process is actually running)
[18:34] <UltimateMacUser1> hi hi... is there a Mac / PPC port ofr Ubuntu v9?
[18:34] <transMIssion> ^Migs^: kind of you
[18:34] <Pici> ^Migs^: Please don't do that, this is a support channel and that is not helpful.
[18:34] <Xeccos> gartral, alright, thx for trying
[18:34] <roobly_roo> Xeccos: What's the problem you're having?
[18:34] <fuffalo> sipior, i'm dong ps -efa | grep firefox, and it seems to be running with the id 27689
[18:34] <fuffalo> I just removed the profile folder and tried again, and it's still running
[18:34] <Pici> Slade: I'd be more than happy to answer you here though.
[18:35] <Xeccos> roobly_roo, gdm can't start, I can't sudo, if i 'startx' keyboard and mouse don't work to sum it up
[18:35] <sipior> fuffalo: what's the process status from ps?
[18:35] <myself> hey transmission do you know how to get a script working in transmission
[18:35] <v3rtyx> logout and login :>
[18:35] <phaidros> hm, ok thats not permanent. where exactly (not xinit, there is none :) .. is compiz set? somewhere in .gnome ?
[18:35] <fuffalo> sipior, is that the column after the pid?
[18:35] <Pici> Slade: We do not release new gnome versions within a release, you'd have to upgrade to a new version of Ubuntu if you wanted the latest version of Gnome.
[18:35] <v3rtyx> pa
[18:36] <sipior> fuffalo: no, just give the whole line, please.
[18:36] <fuffalo> kirk     27689     1  0 08:15 ?        00:00:00 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox
[18:36] <Xeccos> also eth0 doesn't work anymore (so i can't ssh into it), so it takes me a minute to run upstairs to the computer to try stuff (not that its a problem, just that it takes me a minute)
[18:37] <cyberghoser1> !cloning
[18:37] <sipior> fuffalo: can you try "ps auxww | grep firefox"?
[18:37] <Slade> Pici, but it wont hurt anything to download and compile from their website, right?
[18:37] <mkirk> jaunty server occasionally (~once per week) crashes. I suspect it has something to do with my marvel sky 2 gigabit ethernet card
[18:37] <fuffalo> kirk     27689  0.0  1.0 102316 37816 ?        D    08:15   0:00 /usr/lib/firefox-3.0.11/firefox
[18:37] <roobly_roo> Xeccos: This sounds like a problem with init.d.  What were you doing before this happened?
[18:37] <Pici> Slade: It could break your gnome install.
[18:37] <Threetimes> !automate
[18:38] <Slade> Pici: ok, then no doing that :)
[18:38] <drummrx> ok
[18:38] <cyberghoser1> my issue is to make the network places that i can access permanent on desktop as shortcut, anyone to enlight me?
[18:38] <drummrx> bounced between 58c-60c
[18:38] <Xeccos> roobly_roo, I was installing the driver package for one of my printers (samsung clp-510), it froze trying to restart CUPS, at that point I couldnt sudo anymore
[18:38] <Dr_Willis> mkirk:  ive seen a great many 'error message'   in various linux distros   with my marvel sky chipset card.  So it could be.
[18:38] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - so your temp is ok
[18:38] <Xeccos> roobly_roo, i tried rebooting and thats where I am now
[18:38] <sipior> fuffalo: hmm...uninterruptible. is there are a lot of hard drive activity at the moment?
[18:39] <Morph`> howdy foilks
[18:39] <max_> Всем привет!
[18:39]  * Morph` stabs his typist.
[18:39] <fuffalo> sip, as best i can see/hear there isn't
[18:39] <drummrx> yeah with the makeshift cooler it is...usually it's on for about 5 min and shuts down
[18:39] <Joeseph> cyberghoser1: What kind of remote locations? You can edit the /etc/fstab to have remote locations, and they will often then appear on the desktop.
[18:39] <mkirk> can someone recommend a gigabit card with good linux support?
[18:39] <max_> D-Link
[18:39] <drummrx> it seriously looks like a frenkenstein system right now
[18:39] <roobly_roo> Xeccos: Eh, that's not good.  Have you tried booting up under a previous kernel version?
[18:39] <mkirk> are there any NIC companies with open specs?
[18:39] <misha> privet max
[18:39] <drummrx> a*
[18:39] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - thats weird
[18:40] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - your laptop is on the cooler right now?
[18:40] <^Migs^> Pici: How was that not helpful?
[18:40] <drummrx> the bios is the issue. So I was hoping to get around it inside ubuntu and tell the system to somehow say fan always on
[18:40] <max_> Я так понял канал предназначен для обсуждений и помощи пользователям?
[18:40] <Xeccos> roobly_roo, i'm not aware of a previous kernel version on my system, how would I go about doing that?
[18:40] <Pici> !en | max_
[18:40] <drummrx> most of the google for the subject took me to stuff for 7.10
[18:40] <blabj> jrib: Hey mate, I didn't say thanks before. so cheers. new repo's added, wine installed, all is well with the world! nice one mate
[18:40] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - can you not upgrade your bios ?
[18:40] <^Migs^> First link on that site contains the answer to his question.  I'm also introducing him to how he can use search engines can be useful for retrieving information.
[18:41] <drummrx> still didn't give me an option when I got the latest one
[18:41] <max_> Ok, thenks
[18:41] <^Migs^> With any luck, in the future he will use his search engine of choice, so we can focus on more relevant questions in here that are actually Ubuntu-related
[18:41] <misha> is there really  russian on #ubuntu - cause Im willing to type in russian to get help woith network manager
[18:41] <Dr_Willis> !ru
[18:41] <max_> ru
[18:41] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - i don't know what bios firmware you got, but seems a fan problem since on the cooler it doesnt crash
[18:42] <roobly_roo> Xeccos: You'd find it in the Grub menu; I'm not sure if by default Ubuntu has more than one available, but each time your kernel is updated it keeps the prior version.
[18:42] <drummrx> XD...you'd have to see the cooler I had to make. Plus the chassis is pretty much dismantled at this point
[18:42] <roobly_roo> Xeccos: At reboot you should either see the menu, or a 'Press Esc for boot options' should flash by.
[18:42] <drummrx> not too practical on the road
[18:43] <Xeccos> roobly_roo, there are only three options in the grub menu, the main one, a Rescue one, and the windows one
[18:43] <fuffalo> sipior: anything else I can try?  Or do I need to reboot?
[18:43] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - well i kinda had some problems of high temp but even when it hit 80c on hot weather it didnt crash, thats why on yours its weird
[18:43] <thiebaude> Xeccos: did you delete older kernels?
[18:43] <drummrx> yeah. My HP handles it much better than the GW
[18:44] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - hmm can you try xp on dual boot ?
[18:44] <Xeccos> thiebaude, no, this is a pretty new install, started with 9.04 (i should mention it is actually linux mint 7 which is based on 9.04)
[18:44] <drummrx> have win7 on dual boot
[18:44] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - does it crash at all?
[18:44] <sebsebseb> !mint | Xeccos
[18:44] <drummrx> nope, fan runs fine with 7
[18:45] <sipior> fuffalo: if you set the variable MOZ_NO_REMOTE via "export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1", and then start firefox from the terminal, does it allow you to choose a profile?
[18:45] <sebsebseb> !mintsupport |  Xeccos
[18:45] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - so you know its something to do with ubuntu
[18:45] <om26er> how to install linux linpus lite
[18:45] <drummrx> yes
[18:45] <om26er> on netbook
[18:45] <om26er> so no cd rom
[18:45] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - You may try some acpi utilities
[18:45] <Alpha7> Is 9.10 out yet?
[18:45] <Xeccos> alright, thx
[18:45] <Alpha7> for beta or alpha
[18:45]  * Morph` pokes his ubuntu box and ponders why it's running like ass.
[18:46] <fuffalo> sipior: I typed "export MOZ_NO_REMOTE=1" then "firefox" and I'm getting the same existing firefox error as before
[18:46] <thiebaude> alpha2
[18:46] <sebsebseb> !language | Morph
[18:46] <drummrx> ok so there are some out there?
[18:46] <om26er> !linpus
[18:46] <designs703> Hi everyone. Anybody know of an FTP client with an mc-style interface?
[18:46] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - I use specific for my netbook no sure they will work for yours
[18:46] <muha> Hi i am new in ubuntu and "ofcourse" having problem can you help this noob
[18:46] <chattogirl89898> http://pastebin.com/m636a9e3c
[18:46] <om26er> !fedora
[18:46] <sebsebseb> muha: depends,  what are your issues?
[18:46] <Pici> om26er: Linpus is not Ubuntu, Its probably best to seek out them for support.
[18:46] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - on synaptic search for acpi maybe you get luck
[18:47] <om26er> ok
[18:47] <Pici> Alpha7: Alpha 2 was released, discussion and support for 9.10 in #ubuntu+1
[18:47] <sipior> fuffalo: and you said you had moved the profile directory under .mozilla?
[18:47] <drummrx> it's a poin in the right direction...thanks for all the advice
[18:47] <fuffalo> I removed it
[18:47] <thierry_> muha : don't ask to ask, just ask ;)
[18:47] <cyberghoser1> drummrx - anytime :)
[18:47] <muha> thank you
[18:47] <fuffalo> the only thing left in the .mozilla/firefox folder is profiles.ini
[18:48] <sipior> fuffalo: and if you move that file elsewhere?
[18:48] <fuffalo> just tried that, same thign
[18:48] <sipior> fuffalo: i hate to suggest a reboot, but that would probably be the quickest solution under the circumstances
[18:48] <fuffalo> sipior: I appreciate all your help, I've got a lunch meeting I have to run to - I'll be back in an hour or so to try and get this...Thanks for your time though
[18:48] <fuffalo> ya, i was trying to avoid a reboot, was hoping i'd learn something new ;p
[18:49] <chattogirl89898> can anyone help me get that thing workin http://pastebin.com/m636a9e3c
[18:49] <fuffalo> sipior: Thanks again :)
[18:49] <chattogirl89898> acx_mac80211 damn old thing
[18:49] <sipior> fuffalo: yep, no worries
[18:49] <pumpkinseed> Hello everyone. I just installed the Linux 2.6.28-13-generic Kernel and after restarting my sound has stopped working. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 64bit and have a Sound Blaster Audigy 4. Can anyone help?
[18:51] <PiotrK> !find magic | PiotrK
[18:51] <chattogirl89898> have u compiled alsa too you kernel as module?
[18:51] <sebsebseb> pumpkinseed: there was a woman earlier with a similar issue,  I suggested trying  trying  the older kernel, but that didn't seem to do it.   Then I think she found  that her sound settings had been changed to something odd.
[18:51]  * Morph` gets out his book o' linux and starts reading
[18:51] <sebsebseb> pumpkinseed: similar issue?  the same issue even
[18:51] <pumpkinseed> I tried using the old kernel and that didn't do it
[18:52] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - do you have sound at all or its low ?
[18:52] <pumpkinseed> its very very low and garbled
[18:52] <chattogirl89898> grep a git kernel and clone oldconfig - so copy that thing and try remake
[18:53] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - go into the sound applet on the panel and see line out if its on low
[18:54] <chattogirl89898> or post <lsmod> to pastebin
[18:55] <pumpkinseed> cyberghoser1: nope... all levels are okay... the sound is extremely garbled and low
[18:55] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - sudo apt-get install pavucontrol once istalled launch with: paman and try to increase
[18:56] <musicpenguin> what command check how much video memory you have?
[18:56] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: what chipset do you have?
[18:56] <musicpenguin> p4
[18:56] <ectospasm> the nvidia control will tell you that
[18:56] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: video chipset
[18:56] <need_help> hello, i have 3GB free i want to add them to swap partition since i add more RAM, how i can do this! how i can add these free disk to the swap parition thx =)
[18:56] <musicpenguin> i think its a i915 not sure
[18:57] <muha> I have difficulties whit instaling ati drivers i have same problem than this guy in post. There is answer but it is very much crypted please help me understand have  this guy named sciurognathis answer http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1164815&page=8 it is ati
[18:57] <squeak> I installed XP in a virtualbox inside of Ubuntu 8.10 and there is no internet in it yet ipconfig brings up a ip I just can't go too any website...anyone have any ideas?
[18:57] <musicpenguin> isnt there a command?
[18:57] <pumpkinseed> paman doesn't have audio level controls in it
[18:57] <ectospasm> need_help: make the 3GB partition swap using fdisk or some other tool, then swapon /path/to/swap/device
[18:57] <sebsebseb> squeak: join #vbox for help with that
[18:57] <need_help> ectospasm and the old swap will be added with the new?
[18:57] <cyberghoser1> squeak - what network device you used on virtualbox?
[18:58] <wubrgamer> why is xorg growing it's memory usage? it's using over 100 MB right now, it was running 70 last night, and I've since shut down many processes
[18:58] <ectospasm> need_help: yep
[18:58] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - yes if you click on devices the choose the right device
[18:58] <Tophu> I just set up dual booting ubuntu on myh hp touchsmart tx2 and was wondering if there are any packages I can install to get the touchscreen part working or the fingerprint reader
[18:58] <squeak> cyberghoser1, I tried both of the devices listed in the network pc something I think and both are set too nat niehter work
[18:58] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, do you know?
[18:58] <pumpkinseed> PulseAudio Manager has 5 tabs: Server Information, Devices, Clients, Modules, Sample Cache
[18:58] <need_help> ectospasm thx =) using swapon i add the path to the old swap or the new which i fdisk it ?
[18:58] <pumpkinseed> got ya
[18:58] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: nothing comes to mind, except maybe a grep through /var/log/messages
[18:58] <_Kuba> hi
[18:58] <cyberghoser1> squeak - do you got an ican of network on xp in vbox at all?
[18:59] <sebsebseb> _Kuba: hi
[18:59] <cyberghoser1> *icon
[18:59] <ectospasm> ectospasm: or a grep through the Xorg log
[18:59] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, i know theres a command cuz i seen someone use it..but i dont recall either
[18:59] <squeak> cyberghoser1, no just the virtual box guest addons Icon
[18:59] <xente> anyone here know how to install jspwiki?
[18:59] <musicpenguin> and how do i  know if linux is using nvidia driver?
[18:59] <pumpkinseed> everything is at 100%
[18:59] <cyberghoser1> squeak - i mean next to the horloge in the taskbar
[18:59] <pumpkinseed> But is sounds like i
[18:59] <pumpkinseed> am tuning into radio or something
[18:59] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - maybe increase to 120%
[18:59] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: you can check for the existence of the nvidia module:  lsmod | grep nvidia
[18:59] <_Kuba> what is the best way to change size of my avi file (DV, 7GB) to something smaller, like DVD/CD size or network (youtube) movies size
[19:00] <xente> or know where I can find instructions?
[19:00] <xente> _Kuba: handbrake
[19:00] <xente> _Kuba: or avidemux
[19:00] <pumpkinseed> not helping... but I am definitely picking up radio signals
[19:00] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - or try system -> administration -> Hardware drivers to see if it finds newest for your audio device
[19:00] <need_help> ectospasm thx =) using swapon i add the path to the old swap or the new which i fdisk it ? thx=)
[19:00] <squeak> cyberghoser1, if you mean in ubuntu do I have internet yes and I have a wireless icon but in the virtual machine no network icon at all
[19:00] <Dr_Willis> _Kuba:  theres large # of video tools out there.. winff is another  xente  mentioned others.. :)
[19:00] <ectospasm> need_help: using swapon you'd specify the new swap
[19:01] <Dr_Willis> _Kuba:  how long is the avi file? an hr? 20 min?
[19:01] <cyberghoser1> squeak - what xp version iso did you use ?
[19:01] <squeak> cyberghoser1, xp professional
[19:01] <pumpkinseed> cyberghoser1: hardware drivers a no-go... only nvidia stuff in there
[19:01] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, got it :)   lspci -v -s
[19:01] <Scunizi> I tried copy-ing my /home to an external usb (/home is apx 110gigs).  It took hours and at the end froze with 20% left to copy.  What cli command or string of commands can I use to do a "diff" between the two directories including hidden directories to find out what the differences are and to copy only the remaining files over?
[19:01] <cyberghoser1> squeak - in win xp on the virtual go to control panel, devices etc...and look if the virtual network card is recognized
[19:02] <tunnlrat> _Kuba, your going to need to make sure you have some compression codecs installed such as Divx if your trying to shrink the size of a video
[19:02] <musicpenguin> but it still doesnt tell me
[19:02] <musicpenguin> hmmm
[19:02] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: Ah, OK.  I don't remember lspci showing that info
[19:02] <myself> if you're going to name yourself "transmission" you should be able to tell me stuff about how to do things with TRANSMISSION
[19:02] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - well thats strange, check in all your audio controls that nothing is muted
[19:02] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: ...but of course I've never looked for it
[19:02] <ltcabral> where can i ask about createrepo?
[19:02] <myself> just like if you name yourself "linux" you better know everything about linux, and as I name myself myself, i know everything about you
[19:02] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, i think its under prefectable
[19:02] <squeak> cyberghoser1, it shows a card listed...does it matter that its showing a Ethernet card and I am using wireless
[19:03] <_Kuba> Dr_Willis: 40 minutes
[19:03] <ectospasm> myself: huh?
[19:03] <ltcabral> does createrepo makes repodata/primary.xml.gz for packages that i created manually?
[19:03] <_Kuba> Dr_Willis: ie. 30 *
[19:03] <cyberghoser1> squeak - normally it should show a wireless too, if you set it in virtualbox settings
[19:03] <need_help> ectospasm need to ask you once i make /home parition and add old /home to new /home partition , i reboot after i re-log give me error ./netuilis something like that and say make permission 644 , i did and same error give , i delete user and home folder and create till it work! how to fix this thing thanks =0
[19:03] <Dr_Willis> _Kuba:  dependoing on the res and codec you can get  that down to  under 700mb eaially enough.
[19:04] <ectospasm> need_help: normally you don't add to a /home partition (unless you use LVM like I do)
[19:04] <musicpenguin> if i have 256 prefetchable video memory why does blender still stay up after i closed it
[19:05] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: it probably has nothing to do with video RAM
[19:05] <pumpkinseed> i fixed it
[19:05] <cyberghoser1> pumpkinseed - glad to read it :)
[19:05] <pumpkinseed> amixer set -Dhw:0 'Audigy Analog/Digital Output Jack',0 unmute
[19:05] <pumpkinseed> that command did it
[19:05] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, then what?
[19:06] <need_help> ectospasm how to use LVM ?
[19:06] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, i was on jaunty yesterday but blender was really garbled so i had to go back to 8.10...
[19:06] <ectospasm> need_help: you need to install Ubuntu using the alternate CD
[19:06] <ectospasm> musicpenguin: I dunno, I've never used blender
[19:06] <msaraujo> which is a good book for ubuntu server administration?
[19:06] <musicpenguin> ectospasm, oh ok..thanks though :)
[19:07] <Hodapp> Blender is fun.
[19:07] <gogeta> blarg]
[19:07] <gogeta> lol
[19:07] <musicpenguin> Hodapp, it is
[19:07] <Scunizi> msaraujo: Beginning Ubuntu Server Adin.  by van vugt .. available at B&N
[19:07] <toenail> got a question if i did sudo aptitude install ubuntustudio-desktop to install studio do i just do sudo aptitude uninstall ubuntustudio-desktop to remove , it because im having sound problems
[19:08] <toenail> so i would rather go back to regular ubuntu
[19:08] <InfoMoMo> Hey guys! Has anyone updated their GRUB to GRUB2 ? Thanks
[19:08] <ectospasm> toenail: aptitude -y remove ubuntustudio-desktop
[19:08] <gogeta> toenail you can also check the sound settings lol
[19:08] <msaraujo> Scunizi: and a really good one for shell scripting skills?
[19:08] <musicpenguin> how do you test a memory module...right now im at 512 cuz if i add both i get errors and linux wont load
[19:08] <thiebaude> InfoMoMo: is it in synaptic?
[19:08] <gogeta> msaraujo making a shell script is easy
[19:08] <Dr_Willis> musicpenguin:  the memtest item in the grub menus on most disrto/live cds is handy for that
[19:08] <ectospasm> msaraujo: the O'Reilly Bash book is good
[19:08] <msaraujo> humm
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> O'Reilly Bash book - is a must get
[19:09] <gogeta> just make a text file with the commands you whant then chmod +x it
[19:09] <musicpenguin> Dr_Willis, oh ok thanks...ill have to do that then :)
[19:09] <musicpenguin> bbl :)
[19:09] <thiebaude> !grub2
[19:09] <rubydiam_> guys.. is there any good torrent web interface .. which I can control from web
[19:09] <toenail> i did , problem is  im using alsa i have 3 sound cards installed , tring to record multiple instruments on different tracks , so if one wolume is lower than the other at the time of recording it i can just adjust the volume and wont have to rerecord
[19:09] <InfoMoMo> thiebaude: not yet, i will check
[19:09] <thiebaude> ok, thanks
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> rubydiam_:  many torrent clienbts have a web interface.. transmission does. and ktorrent does also
[19:09] <gogeta> rubydiam yes
[19:09] <Dr_Willis> 'web interface .. which I can control from web
[19:10] <rubydiam_> Dr_Willis: I will be installing on my slicehost slice
[19:10] <iceroot> i want to make a screenshot (area) like in kde. what is that app called from kde? or how to get it in gnome?
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> :) thats... made me chuckly.
[19:10] <gogeta> utorrent has web ingterface supporrt
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> rubydiam_:  that  maens very little to me...
[19:10] <rubydiam_> so there will be no gui available
[19:10]  * bc is terrified to upgrade the kernel after reading the channel for the last couple months
[19:10] <ectospasm> iceroot: hit printscreen
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> rubydiam_:  install vnc, and you can get a remote gui. :)
[19:10] <rubydiam_> Dr_Willis: which one is good web interface
[19:10] <Dr_Willis> rubydiam_:  they all work fine for my needs.. try them out and see
[19:10] <Hodapp> pffft, I upgraded my kernel the first time when I was 15 and the only thing that took awhile was the compilation
[19:10] <iceroot> ectospasm: i want the program from kde when i hit print there
[19:10] <need_help> how can i know if this is in RAID ?
[19:10] <fullmetalj> Hi, is any one on umuntu run mail server
[19:10] <InfoMoMo> thiebaude: it is in synaptic
[19:10] <sebsebseb> bc: if you do a kernel upgrade from the repo,  you should still have the old one staill availalbe as well, so if any problems
[19:10] <iceroot> ectospasm: ro select an area, window or fullscreen
[19:11] <thiebaude> InfoMoMo: thanks
[19:11] <ectospasm> iceroot: the screenshot tool should have that in it.
[19:11] <_Tristan> sometimes my graphics settings reset on their own and all my windows consolidate to my first desktop. My compiz settings also are forgotten. How do I fix this?
[19:11] <bc> Hodapp: same here, but with the nvidia problems lately in 9.04 I'm a little gun shy
[19:11] <gogeta> bc you can remove the old one later
[19:11] <iceroot> ectospasm: cant see it in 8.04 gnome if i press print
[19:11] <Scunizi> bc: if you've installed an nvidia driver downloaded direct from nvidia then download the latest and be prepaired to reinstall it.
[19:11] <bc> sebsebseb, gogeta: sounds like a plan
[19:11] <ectospasm> iceroot: printscreen
[19:12] <iceroot> ectospasm: i want to select an area like in kde!
[19:12] <ectospasm> the key on the keyboad that says "PrintScreen/SysRq"
[19:12] <bc> Scunizi: I install nvidia driver from hardware detection in system menu
[19:12] <iggy1> hello, i need some help :( my nvidia drivers dont work.. i always get black screen after reboot.. i tried other drivers but its always the same.. booting, splash, black screen.. the monitor seems working (LED is green; no warning like "no signal") but theres no output at all :(
[19:12] <iceroot> ectospasm: if i press print in kde, there a three options, fullscree, window and area which i can select
[19:12] <Scunizi> bc: then you should be fine. you might consider installing dkms from the repos as well.  That will help things that have a kernel mod automatically redo the mod on a new kernel.
[19:12] <ectospasm> iceroot: if you're in GNOME, try Applications > Accessories > Take Screenshot
[19:13] <iceroot> ectospasm: there is no area
[19:13] <_Tristan> once in a while my graphics level resets to normal. How do I fix this?
[19:13] <gogeta> iceroot install gimp
[19:13] <ectospasm> iceroot: there is in Jaunty
[19:13] <iceroot> gogeta: .....
[19:13] <iceroot> ectospasm: http://plasma.kde.org/media/ksnapshot_kde4.png   ksnapshot it is called i see
[19:14] <gogeta> lol
[19:14] <ectospasm> iceroot: yeah, but you're asking about the Gnome screenshot tool
[19:14] <iceroot> ectospasm: i am asking how to get the program from kde
[19:14] <iceroot> ectospasm: but now i have it
[19:14] <gogeta> LOL
[19:14] <wubrgamer> why is X leaking memory?
[19:14] <wubrgamer> it's using like
[19:14] <wubrgamer> 100MB
[19:14] <gogeta> gimp works
[19:14] <wubrgamer> is that normal?
[19:15] <ectospasm> iceroot: oh, OK
[19:15] <FloodBot1> wubrgamer: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:15] <_Tristan> my graphics level keeps reseting. How do I stop it?
[19:15] <zett> lo hai ppl
[19:15] <wubrgamer> how much memory should I be using for X?
[19:15] <ectospasm> wubrgamer: that's not necessarily a leak
[19:15] <iceroot> gogeta: of course it is working but that was not my question
[19:15] <gogeta> it can do area
[19:15] <tunnlrat> When all else fails /bootkickhdd/fist to the screen... that will fix all memory leaks, video errors =P
[19:15] <gogeta> or even windows
[19:15] <wubrgamer> ectospasm: what is standard usage for most people?
[19:15] <gogeta> or entire screen
[19:15] <iceroot> gogeta: have a look at ksnapshot. with that i dont need gimp
[19:15] <xmadragex> hi
[19:16] <iceroot> gogeta: and as is said before, i am using 8.04
[19:16] <gogeta> gimps for 8.04
[19:16] <gogeta> hell for any distro
[19:16] <sedontane> sebsebseb: ok so it brokwe my networking
[19:16] <ectospasm> wubrgamer: if I'm reading top right, X.org is using about 52MB for me right now
[19:16] <iceroot> gogeta: please stop it, you dont get my question
[19:16] <xmadragex> i need some information with someone that knows ubuntu 9.04 >.>
[19:16] <sebsebseb> sedontane: are you the guy that upgraded 8.04 to 8.10?
[19:16] <wubrgamer> ectospasm: yeah, it's using too much for me
[19:16] <gogeta> iceroot you said you whanted s snapshop f a reao
[19:17] <gogeta> area
[19:17] <wubrgamer> is it my driver? how do I check to see what driver I'm using?
[19:17] <ectospasm> xmadragex: don't preface your question, just ask
[19:17] <Morph`> I would like to add a source for packages to my sources.list. where would I find this file in order to modify it?
[19:17] <sedontane> sebsebseb: yeah and i still cant find an 8.10 install cd
[19:17] <iceroot> gogeta: i was asking about the name of the kde-program so that i can install it in gnome
[19:17] <ectospasm> wubrgamer: how much RAM do you have?
[19:17] <bingo> HI room ..!!
[19:17] <iceroot> gogeta: i was not asking about gimp or anything like this
[19:17] <wubrgamer> like
[19:17] <wubrgamer> erm...
[19:17] <sebsebseb> sedontane: yeah I said don't get 9.04 :)  I know where you can get 8.10 though
[19:17] <wubrgamer> 1.5 g i believe ectospasm
[19:17] <tunnlrat> Morph`, system>Administration/software sources?
[19:17] <xmadragex> ok then i got a problem with my nvidia card for installation i past 50+ hours on diffrent way to installing it and even recreat the xorg.conf and such
[19:17] <tunnlrat> Morph`, that what your lookin for?
[19:18] <sebsebseb> sedontane: or maybe you should try both versions from the Live CD
[19:18] <ectospasm> 100MB is not that much then, wubrgamer
[19:18] <gogeta> sedobtane the 2 ubuntu distros are 8.04 and 9.04
[19:18] <wubrgamer> it's the largest consumer of memory on my system
[19:18] <faldo> Hi. Any good PIM to trust to work with?
[19:18] <Scunizi> how do I find the missing files in directory "B" when compared to directory "A"?
[19:18] <xmadragex> am about to try envynv but am not sure about its compatiblity for gaming with shaders
[19:18] <sebsebseb> gogeta: wrong there is 8.10 as well
[19:18] <wubrgamer> faldo: I like KDE's the best, it's really well done
[19:18] <fullmetalj> any one run ubuntu as mail server ???
[19:18] <Scunizi> xmadragex: DO NOT USE ENVYNG OR ENVY
[19:18] <bingo> i am using 8.04, created new user test with password,but when i login by ssh it was saying could not chdir to directory /home/test: file and directory
[19:18] <gogeta> 8.10 is no longer for dl
[19:18] <bingo> any one ?
[19:18] <xmadragex> why?
[19:18] <grawity> Scunizi: I'd use the simplest: ls A | sort > A.list; ls B | sort > B.list; diff A.list B.list
[19:18] <Morph`> tunnlrat: oh, some software I want to install needs me to add it before I can install it.
[19:18] <iggy1> please, could anyone with nvidia driver paste me his xorg.conf?
[19:18] <gogeta> replaced my 9.04
[19:18] <ectospasm> fullmetalj: kinda sorta, I use postfix for smtp relay
[19:18] <gogeta> by
[19:19]  * Morph` is a mac user, please excuse my ignorance as to the ways of Linux
[19:19] <sebsebseb> sedontane: http://releases.ubuntu.com
[19:19] <gogeta> morph lol
[19:19] <bingo> anyo on know.. my prob.. ?
[19:19] <gogeta> osx babhy
[19:19] <gogeta> :)
[19:19] <sebsebseb> sedontane: also before burning an ISO you should md5sum it really
[19:19] <xmadragex> well am kidda suck i got a system that boot commandline and i can't start the gui
[19:19] <sebsebseb> !md5sum |  sedontane
[19:19] <altnickkeke> I'm running php and JSON/AJAX chat thing on my server and it's wildly inefficient.  I know that's what is causing it, I just dont' know why.  Is there a way to monitor what exactly is using all the cpu?  Further down than just the processes..
[19:19] <tunnlrat> Morph`, hey i came from windows xp and vista i know what you mean
[19:19] <Scunizi> grawity: looks good.. can I use the -R switch to also make it recurrsive?
[19:19] <sedontane> gogeta: & sebsebseb: I cant use 9.04 due to it breaking my TV card's IR reciever. And I cant use 8.04 because i cant get a high enough kernel to install TV card driver package
[19:19] <ectospasm> bingo: did you create the new user's home directory when you created the user?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> sedontane: you can find the code that you compare the md5sum to in the releases section as well
[19:20] <tunnlrat> now i use only linux and even figured out how to get two different versions of linux to dual boot on the same computer
[19:20] <sebsebseb> sedontane: yeah your doing 8.10 :)
[19:20] <grawity> Scunizi: Dunno, haven't tried ... but no, you'll probably need to replace ls with find.
[19:20] <carthik> When I install, say numpy, using easy_install on ubuntu, it installs version 1.2.1 instead of the 1.3.0 available on PyPI - why is this so and how do I fix it?
[19:20] <sebsebseb> sedontane: and I said before you could probably get a ppa for a later kernel in 8.04, but  8.10 :)
[19:20] <bingo> ectospasm: thanks for reply, i createed user by $sudo useradd test; sudo passwd test... tahts it ?
[19:20] <ectospasm> tunnlrat: that ain't hard
[19:20] <gogeta> http://releases.ubuntu.com/8.10/
[19:20] <gogeta> there you go
[19:21] <tunnlrat> ectospasm, it is when your a linux noob!! good thing ubuntu fixed it all after i broke it this morning lol
[19:21] <ectospasm> bingo: if you didn't pass the optino to create the user's home directory, that's why it's not working
[19:21] <_raven_> ich lade ein os zum netboot auf den server: wie mache ich das?
[19:21] <thiebaude> !de
[19:21] <xmadragex> is there a way that my nvidia card can work with driver without crying like little girl that lost a neil :P
[19:21] <ectospasm> tunnlrat: automagically?  cool
[19:21] <bingo> ectospam: which option should i use for createnig new user with directory.. ?
[19:21] <bingo> command ?=
[19:21] <Scunizi> grawity: hmmmm.. basically I'm trying to discover the missing files on a /home backup after a freeze while copying and just copy the remaining files, inlcuding hidden files/directories..
[19:21] <Morph`> sweet, no editing files in terminal!
[19:21] <Morph`> thank god it's not debian!
[19:21] <BlessJah> Hi All!
[19:21] <sedontane> cheers guys
[19:21] <ectospasm> xmadragex: your analogy is lost on me
[19:22] <tunnlrat> ectospasm, yeah already had ubuntu installed tried to add mandriva booting and install from a second drive, which broke ubuntu, when i did a recovery install ubuntu fixed both
[19:22] <ectospasm> xmadragex: what do you mean "crying like a little girl?"
[19:22] <xmadragex> well for one
[19:22] <BlessJah> I need help: i've got Flash Card with deleted pictures
[19:22] <xmadragex> ubuntu won't configure or make xorg work with the nvidia drivers
[19:22] <sedontane> sebsebseb: does that cd come with a .28 or greater kernel? cos all i saw when i uprgraded was the .27 kernel
[19:22] <xmadragex> so basically any configuration and changes won't work
[19:22] <sebsebseb> sedontane: I think so,  and if not you can do the ppa
[19:22] <ectospasm> BlessJah: unless the pics are in .Trash, Trash, or some other like folder, they're probably gone
[19:22] <xmadragex> as if its not using information from xorg.conf for the nvidia drivers
[19:23] <tunnlrat> Morph`, so far using ubuntu i've never had to edit from the terminal i've been able to fix every problem with a gui solution ilke a windows crack head
[19:23] <BlessJah> ectospasm: flash card
[19:23] <sedontane> if not ill be back seb
[19:23] <xmadragex> so when i reboot i lose the gui completely and endup in commandline
[19:23] <sebsebseb> sedontane: I think after  security updates you will have 28  if it's not already there
[19:23] <gogeta> sedontane just a normal 8.10 cd
[19:23] <BlessJah> ectospasm: remoced using "delete" option in camera
[19:23] <xmadragex> and then you past around 50+ hours trying to know why and fix it
[19:23] <Morph`> tunnlrat: I'm just trying to get some freaking themes to work and it's been a huge PITA.
[19:23] <gogeta> morph lol
[19:23] <sebsebseb> sedontane: md5sum the ISO :)
[19:24] <sebsebseb> sedontane: before burning
[19:24] <faldo> !wiki gnome-pin
[19:24] <gogeta> maybe there to old
[19:24] <ectospasm> xmadragex: what version of the nvidia drivers do you have installed?  I had a problem on my work computer where the 180 version doesn't work with my card (no device created)
[19:24] <xmadragex> so the part "Crying like a little girl" means your crying at your monitor asking why its making your like horrble since ubuntu is a great linux that can replace windows
[19:24] <tunnlrat> Morph`, stick with it man the longer i use ubuntu the more i like it, I've evern got all my windows games to run, WoW is currently installing itself and runs better in ubuntu than it did in windows
[19:24] <faldo> !wiki gnome-pim
[19:24] <xmadragex> i tryed to install the 180 ones
[19:24] <xmadragex> ohh
[19:24] <bingo> ectospam: $sudo useradd -d test ?
[19:24] <xmadragex> wait
[19:24] <ectospasm> xmadragex: maybe drop down to the 173 ones
[19:24] <xmadragex> meaning the 177 will work?
[19:24] <xmadragex> ya 173
[19:24] <FloodBot1> xmadragex: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:24] <zett> help >>  Ophalen van http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80] is mislukt
[19:24] <ectospasm> bingo: hold on, lemme look
[19:25] <bingo> ectospam: $sudo useradd -d /home/test test
[19:25] <Fretegi> hey guys
[19:25] <ectospasm> xmadragex: I dunno, you'll have to try it.
[19:25] <Morph`> tunnlrat: well, it'll never replace Mac OS X for me, but as a viable alternative to linux, so far it's better than Vista.
[19:25] <Morph`> lol
[19:25] <iggy1> ectospasm: i tried all from repos, none of them work
[19:25] <Fretegi> how can i copy a video driver to disk and re-install it on another version of ubuntu?
[19:25] <xmadragex> right now am work i got a a machine am going to use as a test
[19:25] <tunnlrat> my video card is an nvidia 8600 and the newest drivers work great for me never had a problem yet
[19:25] <ectospasm> bingo: -m
[19:25] <gogeta> http://www.gnome-themes.org/
[19:25] <gogeta> enjoy
[19:25] <bingo> ectospasm: $sudo useradd -m test ? it will creat directory/profile every thing ?
[19:26] <ectospasm> tunnlrat: yeah, I've got a 5200 at work
[19:26] <ectospasm> bingo: yes
[19:26] <zett> help >>  Ophalen van http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/hardy/multiverse/binary-lpia/Packages.gz 404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80] is mislukt
[19:26] <tunnlrat> Morph`, yeah but your cheating your comming from a mac to linux, so you had 50% less problems to begin with anyway over my windows systems!
[19:26] <iggy1> ectospasm: and what drivers do you use?
[19:26] <gogeta> tunnlrat LOL
[19:26] <Morph`> tunnlrat: and a healthy knowledge of BSD unix from server adminning and working as a Mac Genius on the back end
[19:26] <ectospasm> iggy1: there I use nvidia-173
[19:26] <Morph`> *G*
[19:26] <tunnlrat> Nvida with linux = great so far, Ati on my laptop with linux = i want to hide in the corner and cry like a baby
[19:26] <Fretegi> trying to get the video driver from 8.10 so i can attempt to load it in 9.04
[19:27] <christophe__> *.*
[19:27] <Scunizi> grawity: how does this look..??  any suggestions on syntax?  ls -aR /home/user/ | sort > a.list; ls -aR /media/disk-1/ | sort > b.list; diff a.list b.list | sort > diff.list; cp -a <reference to list in some fasion> <from/location> <to/location>
[19:27] <gogeta> tunnlrat all my atis work fine in linux
[19:27] <Fretegi> any thoughts?
[19:27] <grawity> Scunizi: well, -R will really break with sort...
[19:28] <Hodapp> nvidia support is generally better.
[19:28] <tunnlrat> gogeta, yeah mines an onboard laptop xpress 1100 ati video card and it runs like crap lol
[19:28] <gogeta> tunnlrat onbords genrelly do
[19:28] <grawity> Scunizi: find /home/user | sort > a.list; find /media/disk-1 | sort > b.list; diff a.list b.list
[19:28] <Scunizi> grawity: ah!.ok.. sorting isn't really necessary .. just a list of files and directories is fine as long as I can pass it along
[19:28] <xmadragex> ok am about to test the 173 driver if it works i'll feel like a nooblet :P
[19:28] <xmadragex> second question
[19:29] <grawity> Scunizi: sorting is necessary for diff.
[19:29] <grawity> (At least in this case.
[19:29] <tunnlrat> Fretegi, under system/administration/hardware Drivers can you get it to activate your nvidia stuff that way?
[19:29] <xmadragex> i own a TH2GO and does it work with linux for high resulotion to 5080 by 1050?
[19:29] <xmadragex> or i need to modify some files?
[19:29] <Gadu> got a gateway laptop I'm working on with Ubuntu 8.04. it has a Conexant Audio chipset and is only outputting sound through the headphone jack. Any thoughts?
[19:29] <tunnlrat> Fretegi, thats how i got the nvidia 180 drivers updated and working
[19:29] <bingo> ectospasm: thanks..!!
[19:30] <ectospasm> bingo: np!
[19:30] <Scunizi> grawity: since it's recurrisive and finding hidden directories, can ls return the list with a full path?  that would allow sort to functions wouldn't it?
[19:30] <xmadragex> gafu i had problems with my laptop with 8.04 ones i upgrated to 9.04 for some reason it works
[19:30] <bingo> Have any body use Nomachine NX at ubuntu 8.04 ??
[19:30] <Fretegi> what i want to do is copy that file, as it is unavailable in jaunty, i want to copy, go back to januty, and see if i can make it work manually
[19:30] <grawity> Scunizi: and that's what "find" does.
[19:30] <bingo> i am facing error.... dont know how to solv it
[19:30] <ectospasm> bingo: no, but I've used it in 9.04
[19:30] <Gadu> xmadragex: interesting
[19:30] <ectospasm> bingo:  should be functionally equivalent
[19:30] <tunnlrat> Gadu, i haven't solved that issue yet i have the exact same problem, someone before told me in this channel its a problem with jack sensing, but i never found a resolution yet
[19:30] <gogeta> bingo ??
[19:30] <iggy1> hm, i installed nvidia 173 (from hardware drivers) and it still gives me blank screen after reboot
[19:31] <bingo> ectospasm: i install ubuntu 8.04 server edition then later on i gave command $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[19:31] <ectospasm> iggy1: did it remove the 180 drivers?
[19:31] <Scunizi> grawity: ok.. good to know.. I was thinking of grep as well.. but I don't know much about that command despite its usefullness.
[19:31] <ectospasm> bingo: hmmm, not an ideal way to do it
[19:31] <iggy1> ectospasm: i first removed all nvidia stuff (synaptic)
[19:31] <gjperez> what exactly is the ubuntu.seed file?
[19:31] <Gadu> xmadragex: do you think the 9.04 livecd would have working audio so I can test it?
[19:31] <grawity> Scunizi: Well, you can diff a b | grep ^< to only return differences from one side, for example.
[19:31] <bingo> ectospasm: i have install gnome i think so, actualy i am sitting at remote sde, so what is ideal way =
[19:32] <ectospasm> bingo: the way I understand it, the server kernel lacks a lot of the preemption code which makes a desktop nice and snappy
[19:32] <xmadragex> gadu am not sure i rarely use the livecd
[19:32] <gogeta> bingo remote i would say ssh
[19:32] <xmadragex> but ya cantry it should load up all the needed drivers
[19:32] <Gadu> xmadragex: worth a shot I guess then
[19:32] <xmadragex> never hurt to try
[19:32] <bingo> ectospasm: now how can i use NX at this server Edition..
[19:33] <grawity> Scunizi: Do you want to list files that only exist in disk-1, or files that only exist in homedir?
[19:33] <bingo> gogeta:  yes SSH,
[19:33] <Gadu> tunnlrat: I'll let you know if updating to a newer version of ubuntu solves it
[19:33] <Mike_lifeguard> !backup
[19:33] <ectospasm> bingo:  read the NX documentation. or try #nx
[19:33] <Scunizi> grawity: that might work because I only want to know what is missing on the external usb.. so what is returned needs to be a full path listing of files in /home that DON't exist in /media/disk-1
[19:33] <xmadragex> gadu i use a pratice that work for me for the past 8 years i always test it virtually and then one pass for most apps i test with the hardware in question then i make the switch
[19:33] <bingo> ectospasm: i have installed it without error now i am facing error at my side.. this (the remote  proxy closed the connection while negitiating the session)
[19:33] <xmadragex> am picky
[19:33] <grawity> Scunizi: Actually, I'm sure there's an easier way to do this, but I'm just used to using the shell tools for stuff.
[19:34] <ectospasm> bingo: I dunno, try #nx
[19:34] <Scunizi> grawity: I don't have an issue using the shell tools for this.. they seem to be faster.. it's just which one and what method is best or easiest :)
[19:34] <Morph`> okay, so here's a question...the theme I want to use uses the Emerald theme manager. I have it installed and all
[19:35] <bingo> ectospasm.. Ok .. thankZz..!!
[19:35] <Mike_lifeguard> anyone know how to backup multiple partitions (2 ext3 + 1 swap for Ubuntu, 1 ntfs + 1 'unformatted' for WinXP) to a new (larger) HD?
[19:35] <Morph`> how do I tell Ubuntu to use that instead of defaulting to the appearance preferenceS?
[19:35] <ectospasm> Mike_lifeguard: why backup swap?
[19:35] <ctmjr> Gadu, have you tried changing the volume in alsamixer from the terminal
[19:35] <xmadragex> if am not too annoying with question what the diffrence with ext3 and ext4? and what recommanded
[19:35] <ectospasm> Morph`: you could use rsync, cp -R, etc.
[19:35] <ectospasm> er, Not Morph
[19:35] <Morph`> heh
[19:35] <buch> Okay here is my problem - I want to dual boot Ubuntu and Windows XP with grub - I tried to change cables and jumpers and ofc /boot/grub/menu.lst but when i choose windows it just says [starting system up ...] and then it just seem to idle - I have two hardisks with two partitions on the windows partition (im pretty sure i pointed grub to the right partition, i tried various setting atleast)
[19:35] <Morph`> I was going to say...
[19:35] <ectospasm> Mike_lifeguard: you could use rsync, or cp -R
[19:35] <Mike_lifeguard> ectospasm: well, I don't need to back up the data in it... but it does need to still be there
[19:36] <buch> Anyone who can help?
[19:36] <rubydiam_> Failed to fetch http://archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/pool/universe/libt/libtorrent/libtorrent10_0.11.4-1_amd64.deb  404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.46 80]
[19:36] <Gadu> ctmjr: from the terminal no. but I've messed with just about every setting in the gui including external amplifier
[19:36] <ectospasm> Mike_lifeguard: oh, you need to just recreate the partition table then
[19:36] <ectospasm> ?
[19:36] <rubydiam_> guys get above error for sudo apt-get install
[19:36] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, sure
[19:36] <Morph`> anyone?
[19:36] <bronson> import_run has_a import_event has_a article...   So, I start an import run, it downloads a bunch of articles.  The next day, I start another run, and it downloads again.
[19:36] <Gadu> ctmjr: could terminal volume control switch the sound from the headphone jack to the speakers?
[19:36] <grawity> Scunizi: find /home/user | sort | cut -d/ -f2- > local.list; find /media/disk-1 | sort | cut -d/ -f2- > disk.list; diff local.list disk.list | grep "^>" | cut -d " " -f2- > differences
[19:37] <grawity> Scunizi: Try this
[19:37] <bronson> How do I write the query that returns the articles downloaded on the second day that weren't in the first day?
[19:37] <revygttam> Does anyone know how i can speed up my VNC sessions (ie; faster refresh)?
[19:37] <Mike_lifeguard> ectospasm: so, hook it up on USB with something like http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16812104062 and then partition it, then rsync or cp the data... anything else?
[19:37] <ltcabral> how can i read info from a RPM package like name, arch, version, checksum, summary, description, packager, license etc
[19:37] <bronson> craaaap, sorry. wrong chan.
[19:37] <ectospasm> ltcabral: look up the tool alien
[19:38] <ltcabral> ectospasm: thanks
[19:38] <Glaedr> excuse me, how do I shutdown without being root? I would like to set a shutdown shortcut...is it possible?
[19:39] <carthik> glaedr, you say "sudo shutdown -r now"
[19:39] <Scunizi> grawity: can you help explain the logical flow of this?  I understand the first part up to "cut -d/ -f2"  ... what is the -d/ and -f2 do?
[19:39] <lich0r> has anyone heard of any plans to release a new video driver that would help with my intel chipset problems?
[19:39] <Mike_lifeguard> Anyone know why it's 'sudo reboot' in terminal, but the fast user switching applet lets you do it without being root?
[19:39] <ctmjr> Gadu, you have good volume in the headphones but not thru speakers somehow it is getting muted try running alsamixer from terminal and make sure master and pcm are not muted and the volume is up use the arrow keys
[19:39] <kain> hi
[19:39] <Mike_lifeguard> !intel | lich0r
[19:39] <xmadragex> sudo seem to be a replacemtn of su root lol
[19:39] <ectospasm> lich0r: have you filed a bug on launchpad, that's the place to request new drivers
[19:39] <Glaedr> the same answer of Mike_lifeguard
[19:39] <ectospasm> xmadragex: seems to? It IS!
[19:39] <ltcabral> ectospasm: alien has no options to display info...
[19:40] <ltcabral> ectospasm: it just converts and installs
[19:40] <xmadragex> it is oh lol then i still have a brain in my little head LOL
[19:40] <lich0r> I have read everything there is to read about it, I am just wondering when they are going to fix it because none of the fixes have really worked for me
[19:40] <Scunizi> grawity: ok.. -d is a delimiter and f is a fields list.. what is field 2?
[19:40] <lich0r> even my browser is lagging
[19:40] <xmadragex> hey ect its been 8 years last i primaryly used linux
[19:40] <lich0r> but I will file a request
[19:40] <AceKing> tunnlrat: Thank you, that link you posted for me on "Recent Documents" Worked like a charm!
[19:40] <kain> i'm having trouble with my logitech webcam fusion, it doesn't seem to work, i have Ubuntu 9.10 installed, and i'm trying to use my webcam for video conference
[19:40] <roobly_roo> Mike_lifeguard: The applet is running under root credentials, but allows input form non-root users.
[19:40] <Glaedr> carthik » I said "without being root", so I want not to need to log as root
[19:40] <kain> does anyone know a solution?
[19:40] <Mike_lifeguard> roobly_roo: ok.... weird, but ok :)
[19:41] <grawity> Scunizi: Since find returns the _full_ path, cut removes the /home/user part -- so that the end result is somedir/somefile instead of /home/user/somedir/somefile. The -d / parameter makes it use slash for separator, -f 2- makes it only leave fields starting with the third one. (I think it should be 3- actually, I'm kinda sleepy now)
[19:41] <carthik> Glaedr, only admins should be able to shutdown machines, dont you think?
[19:41] <ectospasm> lich0r: I dunno then
[19:41] <Scunizi> grawity: and how is that determined to be the right one to use.. (my learning curve just started with this despite my 3 yrs linux use.)
[19:41] <carthik> Glaedr, if you don't think so, you can change the policy on your machine for anyone to be able to shutdown the machine...
[19:41] <ectospasm> carthik: anyone with physical access CAN shutdown your machine, there's really no way of preventing that
[19:41] <Gadu> ctmjr: all output volumes are maxed except cd which is 80%, inputs are mute
[19:41] <Glaedr> carthik » but when I do it by the GUI, I don't need to log myself as root
[19:42] <myself> i am myself
[19:42] <carthik> ectospasm, yeah, well, anyone without physical access, who is not an admin should not be able to shutdown the machine, there.
[19:42] <Glaedr> myself » lol
[19:42] <Scunizi> grawity: that makes sense.. so this will create a list of what is in /home that isn't in /media/disk-1.. then how do I pass that list to a cp command?
[19:42] <carthik> Glaedr, yeah, that is the policy I just mentioned, that makes it possible...
[19:42] <Glaedr> carthik » for example by System > Exit or by ctrl+alt+del
[19:42] <kain> i'm having trouble with my logitech webcam fusion, it doesn't seem to work, i have Ubuntu 9.10 installed, and i'm trying to use my webcam for video conference, does anyone know how to make the webcam work?
[19:42] <grawity> Scunizi: First, check if the list is okay.
[19:42] <carthik> Glaedr, there is something called policykit to make desktops friendlier
[19:43] <Glaedr> carthik » and how do I set it?
[19:43] <Scunizi> grawity:  ok.. brb I gotta plug in the usb drive...
[19:43] <carthik> Glaedr, set what again?
[19:43] <El_TuX> I need to compress several directories with zip from command line. I have dir1 and dir2. How can I do this??
[19:43] <tunnlrat> You can remove the shutdown button from the windows start menu so why can't you in linux??? though will that stop someone from unplugging the power cord? or do you need to be root to unplug
[19:43] <ectospasm> carthik: it's called a power button
[19:43] <Glaedr> carthik » the system policy
[19:43] <ectospasm> carthik: I dunno how you can lock that
[19:43] <ectospasm> carthik: maybe with a special case/motherboard
[19:43] <carthik> alright, can I have the question in one sentence? I am confused about what you are trying to do
[19:44] <grawity> Scunizi: And check if both lists have the correct amount of path cut ... I think the -f parameter to cut should be 4- instead of 2-
[19:44] <Scunizi> grawity: k
[19:44] <GFH[Work]> Has anyone scripted installing sun-java6 with the whole license thing?
[19:44] <grawity> Scunizi: find /home/user | sort | cut -d/ -f4- > local.list; find /media/disk-1 | sort | cut -d/ -f4- > disk.list; diff local.list disk.list | grep "^>" | cut -d " " -f2- > differences
[19:44] <roobly_roo> Mike_lifeguard: If there are a hundred users on a given machine, it would be very problematic if any one person could kick everyone off by initiating a reboot.  That's why `shutdown` and `reboot` require sudo.  In the context of a desktop environment, the assumption is that only one (or few) will be using the machine, and therefore every user should have that privilege.
[19:44] <AceKing> kain: I had the same trouble with my Logitech. From what I read only certain ones will work
[19:44] <GFH[Work]> (want to give me a hint as to what needs to be done)
[19:44] <grawity> Scunizi: Should be correct. (Sorry, I can't concentrate :(
[19:45] <Mike_lifeguard> roobly_roo: I still think it's weird, but OK :D
[19:45] <Scunizi> grawity: you mean with the 3 or 4?  where are you at? us west coast here.
[19:45] <kain> can anyone  help me?
[19:45] <iggy1> nice, i have new error - cannot load nvidia_drv.so
[19:46] <grawity> Scunizi: Eastern Europe, UTC+3 (DST)... anyway, the last command I gave should be correct.
[19:47] <tunnlrat> Was someone looking to remove the shutdown or reboot option from the GUI??
[19:47] <iggy1> what are the pre-reqs to install nvidia driver??
[19:47] <AceKing> kain: Try this.. http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-642015.html
[19:48] <tunnlrat> iggy1, http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nvidia
[19:48] <kain> Aceking: thanks i'll look it up
[19:48] <iggy1> tunnlrat: thanks, i'll try
[19:48] <grawity> tunnlrat: You can use the "Authorizations" feature to disallow users from using the Shutdown/Restart in the GUIs.
[19:49] <adam628> hello
[19:49] <tunnlrat> grawity, yes isn't that the same as gdmsetup?
[19:49] <AceKing> kain: You're welcome. I hope it helps
[19:49] <petx> hi all... I need to set my IP with different netmask... any clue...??
[19:49] <halberd> why am I having to reinstall the flash plugin for firefox?
[19:49] <halberd> I did that already
[19:49] <halberd> but now it's showing I don't have one
[19:49] <halberd> and it was working before
[19:49] <tunnlrat> grawity, it can be done from there to
[19:49] <scalar> Hi all
[19:49] <jrtayloriv> I just bought a dell laptop w/ ubuntu -- it has a bcm4312 (rev 01) card, and I want to find where ubuntu keeps the driver, so that I can get wireless working on my gentoo install CD ... where do I find the drivers for the networking card?
[19:49] <halberd> oh
[19:49] <halberd> duh
[19:49] <mib_3eqzfg> Suddenly a logical volume doesn't show it's UUID via vol_id anymore (and thus won't mount).
[19:49] <mib_3eqzfg> It says ID_FS_TYPE=silicon_medley_raid_member ID_FS_VERSION=25601.115 I can force it to mount as ext3 and the data seems to be ok.
[19:49] <halberd> never mind, I DO have it, I just also have noscript turned on
[19:50] <grawity> tunnlrat: There's a difference from _hiding_ a function (which can still be used another way) and _disabling_ it (which prevents the user from using that function).
[19:50] <Scunizi> grawity: I get 2 errors.. find <directory path>; Permission denied ... and ... cut: you must specify a list of bytes, characters, or fields
[19:50] <mib_3eqzfg> I could change the fstab but would rather get to the source of the roubles...
[19:50] <mib_3eqzfg> +t
[19:50] <nsh> what's a good gps package for ubuntu?
[19:50] <iggy1> eh, i can see no drivers in "hardware drivers"
[19:50] <tunnlrat> grawity, to true lol
[19:50] <grawity> tunnlrat: Authorizations (polkit), and permissions in Windows, can actually prevent users from shutting down the system.
[19:50] <tunnlrat> iggy1, what kind of nvdia card do you have??
[19:51] <iggy1> tunnlrat: geforce 6600
[19:51] <petx> hi all... I need to set my IP with different netmasks... any clue...??
[19:51] <tunnlrat> iggy1, one sec
[19:51] <Scunizi> iggy1: the 177 driver should work fine with that.. it did for my 6600 agp card
[19:51] <grawity> Scunizi: Ah, hmm. Try using "sudo find" instead of just "find", and run these as three separate commands instead of one.
[19:51] <Scunizi> grawity: ok.
[19:52] <tunnlrat> iggy1, have you tried getting them direct from nvidia?
[19:52] <tunnlrat> newest version is 185 from nvidia themself
[19:52] <jrtayloriv> I just bought a dell laptop w/ ubuntu -- it has a bcm4312 (rev 01) card. Which directory does ubuntu keep the drivers in?
[19:52] <tunnlrat> iggy1, http://www.nvidia.com/Download/index.aspx?lang=en-us
[19:52] <iggy1> tunnlrat & Scunizi: i had some error when booting but it was skipped, ill take a look if it was something about nvidia card
[19:52] <jrtayloriv> I need to copy them to a usb stick to use w/ ndiswrapper
[19:52] <Scunizi> grawity: however the directory that has different permissions is xsane.. by seeing that I may have discovered a solution to using xsane without sudo on a network scanner.. a problem I've been having :(
[19:53] <packet-sent> I have my drive fully encrypted using alternative installer everything has ran fine until the latest kernel update and now my system wont boot, it seesm the problem is that at boot time I am NOT being asked for my password .....................
[19:55] <jrtayloriv> I just bought a dell laptop w/ ubuntu -- it has a bcm4312 (rev 01) card. Which directory does ubuntu keep the drivers in?
[19:55] <jrtayloriv> I need to copy them to a usb stick to use w/ ndiswrapper
[19:56] <fedder> Hi. I'd like to resize the partition used by a physical volume group, but pvresize doesn't change the partition size. What should I google after?
[19:57] <mib_3eqzfg> Why would vol_id not show the UUID on a lv (lvm2) anymore? (blkid does!)
[19:57] <iggy1> tunnlrat: when booting, it sais something like "one X server is already running"..
[19:57] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, If it came with 8.10 or higher, then you're probably usuing B43
[19:58] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, using*
[19:58] <tunnlrat> iggy1, http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1016346.html take a look at that
[19:59] <n0gear-desk> fedder: not sure, but couldnt u use LiveCD to resize partitions?
[19:59] <racecar56> Can someone help me with this? http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f254c59b5
[20:00] <fedder> n0gear-desk: Do you think that gparted will resize the partition if it is not mounted?
[20:00] <jrtayloriv> Ahadiel: yes -- I am using 8.10
[20:00] <fedder> n0gear-desk: And thanks for replying :-)
[20:00] <Eevee> fedder: you can ONLY resize a partition that isn't mounted
[20:00] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, If you want drivers to use with ndiswrapper, you'd have to find Dell's Windows drivers for the bcm4312 and extract them from the .exe
[20:00] <packet-sent> I have my drive fully encrypted using alternative installer everything has ran fine until the latest kernel update and now my system wont boot, it seems the problem is that at boot time I am NOT being asked for my password , anyone know how I set up grub so it ask for my passphrase ?
[20:01] <n0gear-desk> fedder: actually its the only way to resize ... has to be unmounted to resize
[20:01] <sivel> what version of php is included with Jaunty?  Don't have access to my jaunty machine at the moment
[20:01] <erUSUL> !info php
[20:01] <fedder> n0gear-desk: Well I'm going offline then...
[20:01] <erUSUL> !info php5
[20:01] <fedder> Thanks for the hints
[20:01] <jrtayloriv> Ahadiel: Currently, ubuntu is using wl. Is there any reason not to use ndiswrapper?
[20:01] <n0gear-desk> fedder: laters and let me know what happened
[20:02] <Scunizi> grawity .. looks like that produced a list.. kinda strange.. a lot of stuff that is in .evolution/mail/etc etc etc and "My Music".. maybe using nautilus initially wasn't a good idea.. I've always had issues copying large amounts of data with nautilus.
[20:02] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, Ah, you're using broadcom's proprietary driver, wl. You'd probably get better performance with that than with ndiswrapper.
[20:03] <Scunizi> grawity: nautilus seems to organize what it copies in some odd order.
[20:03] <iggy1> tunnlrat: ok i got rid of the error.. but still i cant see anything in "hardware drivers".. i tried installing the nvidia drivers manually (downloaded from official site) but it ended up with error that im missing some kernels
[20:03] <jrtayloriv> Ahadiel: I am trying to figure out how to copy the driver over so that I can use it on my Gentoo livecd, but I can't figure out which files I need and where ubuntu keeps them. Is there a module in lib modules (like wl.ko) that I can just copy over an modprobe, or is it more complex than that?
[20:03] <Tophu> is there anything in synaptic I can install to get the touchscreen and finger print reader on my hp touchsmart tx2 working
[20:03] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: to make a bradcom car working you need to install its firmware do « sudo aptitude install b43-fwcutter » while conected to internet
[20:03] <grawity> Scunizi: that's why |sort
[20:04] <Scunizi> iggy1: when you got that error it should have suggested building them for you.
[20:04] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: avoid ndiswrapper crap if you can
[20:04] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, Just download the driver from broadcom's site (the tarball) and install it.
[20:04] <Scunizi> grawity: making it easier to identify the items.. right?
[20:04] <jrtayloriv> Thank you both.
[20:04] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, or in your case, copy it to a usb and use with your gentoo livecd
[20:04] <tunnlrat> iggy1, you using ubuntu 9.04?
[20:05] <jrtayloriv> erUSUL: do i still need firmware if I use proprietary drivers?
[20:05] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: what propietary drivers ???
[20:05] <krunk-|work> an ubuntu release upgrade should update the sources too eh?
[20:05] <jrtayloriv> erUSUL: wl -- the one Ahadiel is talking about.
[20:05] <Pici> krunk-|work: What sources?
[20:05] <Araneidae> Where is my memory?  BIOS says 3G, Ubuntu says 2.5G!
[20:06] <iggy1> Scunizi: well, the installation tries to build the kernels and then the error appears
[20:06] <krunk-|work> Pici: package sources
[20:06] <iggy1> tunnlrat: yes
[20:06] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: i would avoid that
[20:06] <Pici> krunk-|work: Ones you have downloaded using apt-get source?
[20:06] <jrtayloriv> erUSUL: why?
[20:06] <LeetDonkey> Hello, has anyone tried installing grub or any other kind of bootloader on a Adaptec 2045 controller?
[20:06] <Scunizi> iggy1: do you have "build-essential" installed?
[20:06] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: open source drivers give fewer problems in the long run
[20:06] <brandonban6> hello, what is the difference between the "Terminal Service Client" and "Remote Desktop Viewer"
[20:06] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: they get upgraded with the kernel and you do not have to reinstall them
[20:07] <iggy1> Scunizi: no, i'll install it and try again, thanks
[20:07] <Scunizi> iggy1: np..
[20:07] <Pici> krunk-|work: If so, then those are not tracked by apt, they are just file downloads.
[20:07] <krunk-|work> Pici: sec, I'm holding my breath hoping this goes well
[20:08] <jrtayloriv> erUSUL: Well, I need it working right now, and it is saying on the b43 site that they only support 802.11g (not b/a) ... so I'll stick with proprietary until the open source one is functional I guess.
[20:08] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: also install linux-backports-modules-jaunty-generic
[20:08] <erUSUL> jrtayloriv: they have up to dat wifi drivers
[20:08] <tunnlrat> brandonban6, is the Remote Desktop viewer a gui and the Terminal service client is just that, Text/Terminal?
[20:08] <Ahadiel> erUSUL, He wants drivers to use on his gentoo livecd.
[20:09] <erUSUL> Ahadiel: jrtayloriv wtf ??? then ask in a gentoo channel
[20:09] <krunk-|work> come onnnn baby, reboot :)
[20:09] <brandonban6> tunnlrat, no they are both GUI default Ubuntu Applications. You can find them under Applications > Internet, I am just trying to figure out why they put both are on there.
[20:09] <Ahadiel> erUSUL, he initially wanted to COPY the working drivers from his Ubuntu installation.
[20:10] <Ahadiel> jrtayloriv, http://www.broadcom.com/support/802.11/linux_sta.php
[20:10] <Scunizi> grawity: with an 11 hour difference between us I gotta say.. I'd be sleeping about now :)
[20:10] <grawity> Scunizi: Huh?
[20:10] <Scunizi> grawity: you said eastern europe right?
[20:10] <grawity> Scunizi: yeah, 22:10 here.
[20:11] <Scunizi> grawity: noon here.. 10pm isn't bad.. but when you're feeling sleepy it might as well be
[20:12] <kain> i tried installing "apt-get install spca5xx-source" but it couldn't find the package, does anyone know how i can install it?
[20:12] <stealth-> kain: it might not be under that name, you can search with the "apt-cache search searchstuffhere" command
[20:13] <stealth-> kain: also, make sure you run "apt-get update" before you do any stuff with apt-get or apt-cache
[20:13] <grawity> Scunizi: Hackers don't sleep. (Kind of joking; but yeah, lack of sleep might explain the constant inability to concentrate :(
[20:13] <iggy1> Scunizi: well, it sais i must configure kernel sources to match my kernel
[20:13] <daishadar> if i mount a samba drive in /etc/fstab, what happens when i lose net?  will the share unmount?  will it remount when i get net again?
[20:13] <kain> stealth: ok i'll try :)
[20:13] <canadaeh> lol.. i sleep till noon and am up till 4 :( bad sleep pattern
[20:13] <scorpy> yo ciber
[20:13] <Procedured> kain you might be able to find it here http://mxhaard.free.fr/download.html
[20:14] <Scunizi> grawity: thanks for the help.. I'll tackle the remaining bits later.  I'm off to do some actual work now.
[20:14] <scorpy> yo cyber rebel
[20:14] <Scunizi> iggy1: open synaptic and search for kernel.. in the resulting list look for the reference for "source" that matches your kernel and install.
[20:14] <chiques> is it possible to play my itunes m4p songs on ubuntu?
[20:15] <xmadragex> thank you to the people that replyed the information helped a lot
[20:15] <stealth-> daishadar: fstab is mounted on boot, or you can specify what part of it to mount with the "mount devicehere" command. It will not remount if you loose net and get it back, and it should unmount if you loose your internet, like a flash drive (not sure though)
[20:15] <Morph`> okay, here's a question: how do I change window managers from GNome to KDE?
[20:15] <racecar56> http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f254c59b5
[20:15] <iggy1> Scunizi: what kernel? the ubuntu one?
[20:15] <erUSUL> Morph`: install the kubuntu-desktop package
[20:15] <racecar56> Morph`, it's desktop environments
[20:15] <grawity> chiques: the ones with DRM, no.
[20:15] <canadaeh> Morph`: sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop ... or threw pakage manager
[20:15] <erUSUL> Morph`: you should be able to choose kde in the ligin screen after that
[20:16] <daishadar> stealth-: i see.  how should i be mounting this share then so that it remounts when i gain net again?
[20:16] <dean> heyho =P
[20:16] <Scunizi> iggy1: that's what you should be running unless you've installed one from some outside sources..
[20:16] <chiques> grawity, So they are basically encrypted?
[20:16] <grawity> chiques: Yes. (And more than "basically")
[20:16] <Morph`> thankee
[20:17] <chiques> I guess that means I should start buying my music on Amazon then.
[20:17] <stealth-> daishadar: samba *might* have something like that in the settings, but worse case scenerio you can write a bash script that checks to see if the samba share is mounted, and if its not it will mount it. Then you could put that script in the crontab to run every minute.
[20:18] <grawity> chiques: If you have Windows still, then you could use iTunes to burn the songs to a CD. Then rip back to Ogg or MP3 or whatever.
[20:18] <chiques> grawity, I see, but doesn't that loose all of the song information?
[20:18] <grawity> (Windows or Mac OS, that is.)
[20:18] <canadaeh> chiques: you can find ipod rip software online.. it will rip ipod songs off the ipod.. because itunes doesnt want you to do this..
[20:19] <grawity> chiques: Like title, artist, year? "CD Text" does preserve some of it, but not much.
[20:19] <grawity> Anyway, this is probably not the place to discuss DRM removal :(
[20:19] <stealth-> chiques: and you can edit that stuff back in ubuntu, if you needed, but it might be a pain if you have alot of songs
[20:20] <chiques> grawity, I don't want to remove anything to do with DRM, I just wanted to play my music ( WHICH I PAYED FOR) on Linux instead of crappy windows
[20:20] <canadaeh> chiques: amarok can play ipods..
[20:20] <chiques> grawity, stealth- thanks for the iinsight
[20:20] <canadaeh> chiques: just go to the options and set the device.
[20:20] <stealth-> chiques: anytime ;)
[20:20] <grawity> chiques: Well, DRM is called "Digital _Restrictions_ Management" by many not without a reason.
[20:20] <chiques> canadaeh, I'll try that
[20:22] <ubuntiana> #stalla-it
[20:22] <musicpenguin> what do i need to download to get ath5k? :)
[20:23] <ubuntiana> #ubuntu-it
[20:23] <HexTasy> is there not a "lisa" package anymore"  the LAN Information Server?
[20:23] <canadaeh> chiques: I used a program called tunejack in windows then just copied my library to my linux partition,
[20:23] <WIGGMPk> I need help with my xorg.conf. I just upgraded to the 2.6.28-13 kernel in Jaunty, downloaded the new restricted drivers manager packages with it.. but xorg fails and says: failed to load NVIDIA module.
[20:24] <canadaeh> WIGGMPk: mang you have a ton of problems xD
[20:24] <chiques> canadaeh, I'll check that out. I'm trying Amarok for now to see that how that works.
[20:24] <WIGGMPk> canadaeh: yes, i do lol
[20:24] <wbncly> ;P
[20:24] <krunk-|work> to upgrade from 8.04 to 9.0, I have to upgrade to 8.10 first. but I don't see how to do that
[20:24] <wizzo50> Anyone know of a good motherboard, CPU and Video card to upgrade too while using Linux?
[20:24] <krunk-|work> do I just run a do-release-upgrade twice?
[20:24] <Scunizi> !upgrade > krunk-|work
[20:25] <krunk-|work> ubottu: oh, sure
[20:25] <Pici> krunk-|work: yes
[20:25] <krunk-|work> lol bot
[20:25] <canadaeh> krunk-|work: you can do some aptitutde dist-upgrade and i know there is another command
[20:25] <gartral> I cant get overkill too play, it keeps aborting or seg-faulting
[20:25] <wizzo50> Anyone know of a good motherboard, CPU and Video card to upgrade too while using Linux?
[20:26] <stealth-> wizzo50: almost any motherboard should work, same with CPU, and I find nvidia cards will work best in linux.
[20:26] <WIGGMPk> !repeat > wizzo50
[20:26] <stealth-> wizzo50: the people in ##hardware might have a better idea, though
[20:26] <gartral> wizzo50: lean twords AMD if you play on running windows in a VM
[20:26] <chiques> canadaeh, Well, Amarok loaded my music but it doesn't want to play it. I guess I'll have to do the CD thing
[20:26] <wizzo50> I know that, but just want to get a good one when I upgrade here in the next couple weeks
[20:26] <krunk-|work> hm, lsb_release -a says ubuntu 8.04, do-release-upgrade returns "no new releases found"
[20:26] <krunk-|work> lemme look over these docs again
[20:27] <stealth-> gartral: windows in a vm? you cant play any 3d games :/
[20:27] <musicpenguin> anyone familiar with ath5k?
[20:27] <HexTasy> nobody uses lisa?
[20:27] <gartral> stealth-: lates VMWare Player allows you too
[20:27] <halberd> I once installed ath9k
[20:27] <gartral> latest*
[20:27] <canadaeh> chiques: did you try twice
[20:27] <canadaeh> chiques: like close amarok and re open
[20:27] <halberd> you just need to find a guide for it on the internet
[20:27] <chiques> canadaeh, OK, I'll try
[20:27] <stealth-> wizzo50: you should probably stay away from 64 bit processors, cause most people dont use them so you would get different support?
[20:27] <wizzo50> Use it for games, movies
[20:28] <stealth-> wizzo50: sorry, that wasnt supposed to have a ? at the end
[20:28] <stealth-> gartral: ........really???
[20:28] <krunk-|work> yeah, it say sno new release available
[20:28] <jrib> stealth-: do they even make processors that aren't 64bit anymore?
[20:28] <gartral> stealth-: yep
[20:28] <musicpenguin> i installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid but what do i do now?
[20:28] <krunk-|work> which can't be right. I'm running server though. perhaps 8.04 is the highest for server
[20:28] <racecar56> http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f254c59b5
[20:28] <gartral> jrib: they *do* but there really trying to force us all to upgarde
[20:28] <stealth-> jrib: I think so, i've seen alot of amd64's in the wal-mart close to my home
[20:28] <wizzo50> then what processor are you saying is good
[20:28] <CowEyeball_> I believe I am experiencing an issue that was reported in bug# 310928.  There seems to be a fix in dmraid(1.0.0.rc15-1~exp6ubuntu1) but I can't find this release.  All I can find is the package located at http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15 .  Anyone have any idea of where I should go?
[20:29] <stealth-> wizzo50: pretty much anything thats not 64 bit
[20:29] <stealth-> gartral: you just made my day! ima download it right now!
[20:29] <wizzo50> I just want to make sure I am not wasting my $$ on a cheap one
[20:29] <krunk-|work> yes, 8.04 is the most recent. good! :)
[20:29] <krunk-|work> distupgrades make me nervous
[20:29] <wizzo50> THe only way to find out is ask around
[20:30] <stealth-> wizzo50: like I said, almost any cpu or motherboard should work just as well with linux as windows, and get a nvidia video card
[20:30] <SuspectZero> hey is it possible to have both a bootsplash and colors on grub at the same time?
[20:30] <wizzo50> ok, thanks
[20:30] <stealth-> wizzo50: if you wanted ideas on what is a good motherboard and cpu in general, ask the people in ##hardware
[20:30] <wizzo50> ok, I'll go there now thanks
[20:30] <erUSUL> stealth-: stay away from 64 bit processors <<< so he has to buy an atom or a years old CPU ?? becouse modern ones are all 64 bit capable...
[20:30] <stealth-> wizzo50: anytime ;)
[20:31] <musicpenguin> anyone know ath5k?
[20:31] <stealth-> erUSUL:  well they are not all 64 bit, I meant stay away from the operating systems were you have to download 64 bit stuff
[20:31] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: is the name of a linux kernel driver
[20:31] <stealth-> erUSUL: cause 64 capable and 64 pure are different, right?
[20:32] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, ok...i installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid ...now what?
[20:32] <stealth-> erUSUL: I might have the wrong idea about how 64 bit works.....
[20:32] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: you have an atheros card supported by that driver ?
[20:32] <drastys> Hi, I need your help with configuration of bluetooth. I installed Ubuntu 9.04 on HP nx6310 and BT is not working... :-( Could you help me anybody?
[20:32] <mdm> stealth-: I run 5 amd-64 bit boxes.  They all run quite well.   even with package managment, repositories and compiling.  There is nothing wrong with 64 bit
[20:33] <erUSUL> stealth-: there are no desktop pure 64 bit cpu's all are mixed
[20:33] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, i think so...thats what everyone tells me..right now im usning ndiswrapper but i have to modprobe the driver myself or the gui freezes
[20:33] <erUSUL> stealth-: and what mdm says is quite true i use 64 bit and have no problems
[20:34] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, i just installed linux-backports-modules-intrepid ...do i need to reboot?
[20:34] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: just modprobe the module and see if it recognices the card and creates the wlan0
[20:34] <mdm> and like erUSUL said there are no 64 bit only x86 cpus, it would be contrary to making a CISC cpu anyway
[20:34] <mat__> my ubuntu 9.04 just stopped working - it does not boot any more - hdd can be mounted with live system, but there seems to be no obvious rescue option to just make the already installed system boot again. The system seem not to recognize that the hdd is bootable at all.
[20:34] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: no; no reboot is needed
[20:34] <stealth-> mdm | erUSUL: K, thanks for clearing that up, I guess I need to rethink my view on 64 bit with a little googling ;)
[20:34] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, while ndiswrappers is on?
[20:34] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: no remove nediswrapper first...
[20:34] <CowEyeball> Can anyone help me find a patch release for dmraid 1.0.0rc15?
[20:35] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, i just modprobed it but still have ndis running
[20:35] <gibgasachi> slm
[20:35] <darkest_night> hi @ all, do u know what the hotkey is to mount the system read-only? something with alt+print+<button>.....
[20:35] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: not good both drivers will fight for the hardware... remove ndiswrper first
[20:35] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, is blacklisting ath_pci and ath_hal required?
[20:36] <MrKeuner> hi, since junty update sound up/down buttons on my thinkpad are behaving weird. They are not controlling "master' but something else. How can I change that?
[20:36] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: are you in jaunty ?
[20:36] <musicpenguin> inteprid
[20:36] <connor> im on xubuntu, just updated from Ubuntu
[20:36] <musicpenguin> jaunty has issues with my graphic card
[20:36] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: find /lib/modules -name '*ath*' <<< what does this return ?
[20:36] <floh> eenode.net
[20:36] <Procedured> why do i have to change my windows manager to metacity to use google earth :'(
[20:36] <floh> sorry
[20:37] <SuspectZero> anyone?
[20:37] <u_water> How do I add a user that can sudo ? I don't want to mess with visudo if possible
[20:37] <ulb> does the screen brightness applet work in gnome, ubuntu 9.04
[20:37] <pippo_> ciao!
[20:37] <ulb> doesnt seem to do anything fo rme
[20:37] <mat__> does anyone know how to make my ubuntu 9.04 hdd bootable again?
[20:37] <mdm> stealth-: what I suspect you are going on is the lack of support for 64 bit windows, or at least the lack of percived support.  the only real argument for running windows is "so many people make software for it".  It is also its detriment.  But because so many of those developers have to make the software for the widest audience windows 64 bit falls by the wayside, especially in drivers.  The same can be said for linux modules for the same hardware.  And that is
[20:37] <mdm>  one of the main points in the open software arguments.
[20:37] <erUSUL> u_water: just add that user to the admin group
[20:37] <carthik> u_water add the user to the admin group
[20:37] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, just try to change the device listet in the mixer, probably it works
[20:37] <floh> #join irc.freenode.net
[20:37] <carthik> u_water easiest way to do that is to edit the /etc/group file as root (or using sudo)
[20:37] <glitsj16> CowEyeball: have you searched on launchpad.net yet for that patch?
[20:38] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, http://pastebin.com/d230d428a
[20:38] <darkest_night> !alsa
[20:38] <iggy1> please, what is meant by "make sure you have configured kernel sources matching your kernel installed on your system"
[20:38] <erUSUL> carthik: u_water NO easiest way is « sudo adduser admin $username »
[20:38] <darkest_night> !alsa MrKeuner
[20:38] <connor> im bored
[20:38] <erUSUL> iggy1: install headers to match your kernel
[20:38] <erUSUL> iggy1: 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[20:38] <CowEyeball> glitsj16:  I have found this one: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15, but it doesn't look to include the fixes mentioned in bug 310928
[20:39] <Morph`> okay, I've installed kubuntu, but the default desktop is still logging in as GNOME. how do I get that to go over to KDE?
[20:39] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, you mean in volume applet?
[20:39] <mdm> stealth-: if I have a windows 32 bit driver on a 64 bit box im screwed.  If I have source code for a driver I can compile it to 64 bit on my own.  It is one of the greatest strengths of linux
[20:39] <stealth-> mdm: actually my view wasnt from windows, i've been on linux for a few years now, before I knew much tech stuff. So I think its due to opions from me only thinking there is only pure 64 or i368, and then since I see less people talking about 64 bit i assumed its not supported very well.
[20:39] <iggy1> erUSUL: i have the newest
[20:39] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, you get the link?
[20:39] <u_water> erUSUL: "adduser admin  j" -> "adduser: The user `admin' does not exist."
[20:39] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: yep checking now
[20:39] <stealth-> mdm: *opinions
[20:40] <Morph`> anyone?
[20:40] <drastys> please, help me with my bluetooth issue
[20:40] <erUSUL> u_water; is « sudo adduser $username admin » sorry
[20:40] <mdm> stealth-: then your argiemnt is X distribution does not support 64 bit very well, go to kernel.org there is nothing there that is differnt for a 32 bit or 64 bit kernel, just who compiled it
[20:40] <nellmathew> hey guys, i was curious: does the "murrine" engine come default with jaunty? if not what exactly is the difference?
[20:41] <CowEyeball> ok per what you mentioned I may have just found it on launchpad itself, reading into it now.
[20:41] <Morph`> hello?
[20:41] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, it is already alsa mixer
[20:41] <stealth-> mdm: ah, yeah, my opinion of this has certainly changed :)
[20:41] <stealth-> !hii | Morph`
[20:41] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: then ath5k is not aviable for you.... you have to use ath_pci ...
[20:41] <stealth-> *sigh*,
[20:41] <stealth-> hi, Morph` !
[20:41] <gartral> is there a program in exictence the beeps the system speaker when a make job is done?
[20:41] <tunnlrat> Morph`, hey morph do you have the startup-manager intsalled?
[20:41] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, oh, then sry, don't know why it makes that thing
[20:41] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, oh...explain...i see ath5k.ko
[20:41] <darkest_night>  
[20:41] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: oops sorry it is aviable.... ( i need a coffee )
[20:41] <tunnlrat> Morph`, http://www.ubuntugeek.com/startup-manager-change-settings-in-grub-grub2-and-usplash.html
[20:41] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, np thanks anyways
[20:41] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, np :)
[20:42] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: yes you have to backlist ath_pci
[20:42] <stealth-> gartral: there might be an option for your terminal to "alert on no activity" or something similar
[20:42] <u_water> erUSUL, carthik, "adduser: The group `admin' does not exist."
[20:42] <Ahadiel> gartral, I think the \a escape key triggers a terminal beep
[20:42] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, where is ath_pci..i dont see it in my blacklist...or do i add it?
[20:42] <IngerPoznas> i have a conflict between rythmbox and firefox....when i listen music i can't wach any videos on firefox because i have no audio and the contrary
[20:42] <krunk-|work> when logging into an ubuntu server from my macbook, the backspace does not work (over ssh)
[20:42] <drastys> so thanks for everybody
[20:42] <erUSUL> !blacklist | musicpenguin
[20:43] <nellmathew> hey guys what's the difference between "murrine engine" and the default engine in ubuntu?
[20:43] <Morph`> tunnlrat: mind if I drag ya to PM? easier for me to keep up
[20:43] <tunnlrat> Morph`, sure np
[20:43] <glitsj16> CowEyeball: https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/jaunty/i386/libdmraid1.0.0.rc15/1.0.0.rc15-6ubuntu2 might be what you need ... if you're on i386 that is
[20:43] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, i think i know why it doesn't work.... click on the sound-icon in the info-bar and choose preferences, then look if there is "Master" selected
[20:43] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, so i can make my own blacklist and it will work?
[20:43] <erUSUL> u_water: that is not possible...
[20:43] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: yes
[20:44] <stealth-> how can I install an rpm under ubunutu?
[20:44] <Dr_Willis> !rpm
[20:44] <carthik> u_water: read the manpage for adduser, by man adduser. For this situation, adduser $username admin will work fine.
[20:44] <pronoy> my gedit is giving me lots of problems...like it crashes while opening a simple text file. is there a way to reinstall it or something...because i think its a part of ubunu-desktop package and cannot be removed individually
[20:44] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, so blacklist everything that a voliate on the list i showed you?
[20:44] <gnewb> Morph: get a reply yet?
[20:44] <musicpenguin> blacklist ath_hal
[20:44] <musicpenguin> blacklist ath_pci
[20:44] <musicpenguin> blacklist ath_rate_amrr
[20:44] <musicpenguin> blacklist ath_rate_onoe
[20:44] <musicpenguin> blacklist ath_rate_sample
[20:44] <FloodBot1> musicpenguin: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[20:44] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: no just ath_pci and ath_hal
[20:44] <musicpenguin> opps
[20:44] <musicpenguin> oh ok
[20:44] <boaty> Hello. Issue is: I want to password protect my address book in Evolution mail application. That or find a way to force evolution to demand a password when it opens (i.e. not my email account one)..the gist is to add a level of security regarding my contact info. Also, is there any documentation on the applications>accessories>password and Encryption keys. Thank you
[20:45] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, yes master is already selected
[20:45] <robd> Hey guys
[20:45] <CowEyeball> Thank you glitsj16!  I'll check it out.
[20:45] <gartral> !info pastebinit > musicpenguin
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> pronoy:  you ould remove it.. but i doubt if that will 'fix' anything..  try running it from a terminal. look for error messages.. you could some how reset all the gedit settings perhaps. It may be some messed up config/setting
[20:45] <mdm> stealth-: its called alien and generally very difficult to work with, its better to simply download the source and compile it or look for a PPA with it
[20:45] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, hm.... and which device is listed there?
[20:45] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, ok ...its blaklisted ..now what
[20:45] <halberd> I am getting this message in /var/log/messages
[20:45] <stealth-> mdm: there is no source avaliable. thanks, i had forgotten about alien
[20:45] <halberd> Jun 18 12:03:23 ubuntu logger: must rebind
[20:45] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, alsa mixer?
[20:45] <halberd> how can I find what is producing that message?
[20:46] <robd> I need to do X11 forwarding through like 4 different hosts. (connect to serv1 w/ X11 forwarding, then connect to serv2 from serv1 and forward X11 from serv2 to serv1, then from serv2 connect to serv3 and forward X11 to from serv3 to serv2....)
[20:46] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: have youunloaded ndiswrapper ? disabled it ?
[20:46] <robd> Is there an easy way to do this?
[20:46] <gnewb> Morph: Here is a physcocats link that addresses that: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/kde
[20:46] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, intel ich6 (alsa mixer)
[20:46] <pronoy> Dr_Willis: it runs eventually using the gui but it takes lots of time and also hangs in between the loading
[20:46] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, i can but if i do i cant chat on here..ill disconnect
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> pronoy:  try terminal.. look for error.info messages.. Personally i use geany not gedit.
[20:46] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, thats why i wanted to know what to do first
[20:46] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, and exactly this device is also selected in the volume-regulator?
[20:46] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, dont i need to logoff or reboot for blacklist to work?
[20:46] <richj> any one need a hand?
[20:47] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: well to try and see if ath5k works with your card you will have to do it and load the ath5k driver
[20:47] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, i am not sure what a volume-regulator is
[20:47] <gnewb> halberd: What message?
[20:47] <mdm> robd: just use X11 forwarding in ssh
[20:47] <halberd> gnewb the message is Jun 18 12:03:23 ubuntu logger: must rebind
[20:47] <boaty> richj: I do
[20:47] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: to load driver is sudo modprobe ath5k to unload add "-r" sudo modprobe -r ath5k
[20:47] <MrKeuner> darkest_night, volume control... yes
[20:47] <richj> boaty, whats up?
[20:47] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, well, sry, i just don't know the english word^^
[20:47] <halberd> gnewb, here is the larger message it is part of http://pastebin.com/m63a3e21d
[20:47] <gnewb> halberd: Have you checked the ,logs?
[20:47] <boaty> richj:  Issue is: I want to password protect my address book in Evolution mail application. That or find a way to force evolution to demand a password when it opens (i.e. not my email account one)..the gist is to add a level of security
[20:48] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, ok i usually do rmmod
[20:48] <halberd> that's FROM the log
[20:48] <halberd> /var/log/messages
[20:48] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, so after that i do iwconfig?  then what
[20:48] <gnewb> halberd: Ok, still looking
[20:48] <robd> mdm: Will it work between a bunch of hosts?
[20:48] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, i know i need to tell it the router name and password
[20:48] <richj> boaty, this shouldnt be required.. using your account should be security enough
[20:48] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: what was the place you said to write a ddrescue file now that I have reinstalled? /home/$user something?
[20:48] <halberd> gnewb it happens when I plug in my wacom tablet
[20:48] <mdm> robd: work yes, speed no
[20:48] <boaty> richj: thank you
[20:48] <nellmathew> is murrine the default engine in jaunty? anyone?
[20:48] <halberd> gnewb but I want to find out how to configure or disable it
[20:48] <darkest_night> mrkeuner, hm... that mystifies me.....
[20:49] <richj> nellmathew, clearlooks I believe
[20:49] <XXxxImmortalxxXX> whats up
[20:49] <robd> mdm: I'll give it a try
[20:49] <musicpenguin> erUSUL, thanks..ill brb..killing ndis  :)
[20:49] <nellmathew> thanks richj!
[20:49] <iggy1> okay, i finally installed nvidia 173 drivers and again, it gives blank screen after splash.. the only error in xorg.log is "(EE) Failed to initialize GLX extension (Compatible NVIDIA X driver not found)"
[20:49] <IngerPoznas> i have a conflict between rythmbox and firefox....when i listen music i can't wach any videos on firefox because i have no audio and the contrary
[20:49] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: /home/$USER/hard_disk.img <<< hard_disk.img it is just a random name you can choose whatever you choose
[20:49] <erUSUL> musicpenguin: good luck
[20:49]  * darkest_night  
[20:49] <mat__> Please help! How can I make an already installed ubuntu 9.04 bootable again? My ubuntu 9.04 system refused to boot this morning, the PC seems not to recognize that the hdd is bootable at all, it immediately searches all other bootable devices – no ubuntu-screen or grub-display. The disk with ubuntu can still be mounted with the live system (all data there, fdisk shows partition is bootable), but there seems to be no obvious rescue option to jus
[20:49] <mat__> t make the already installed system boot again. The only option I get is to install a new ubuntu 9.04 alongside the old system, which I did not want to try.
[20:49] <mdm> robd: it depends on the speed of the connections, if there all networked on the same LAN, then its fine.  If you have to cross links with lag, you will start to have issues
[20:50] <richj> anyone else patiently waiting?
[20:50] <darkest_night>  
[20:50] <gnewb> halberd: Yes, I see, am looking for the solution now.
[20:50] <Dr_Willis> mat__:  you can boot a live cd and reinstall grub.. if its some how a 'grub got deleted' issue..
[20:50] <halberd> gnewb because it seems to load the wrong driver when it does that, or only go into a partial mode
[20:50] <erUSUL> mat__: you chaged boot order in bios ?
[20:50]  * darkest_night cya @ all
[20:50] <mdm> mat__: pop in the dvd/cd you built it from, boot the dvd/cd, tell it to run from cd and see if the box sees the disk.  You should also check to see BIOS sees it and the cables did not come loose.
[20:51] <halberd> gnewb where not all functionality is enabled... but it works fine when I have the tablet plugged in and restart X
[20:51] <IngerPoznas> richj do you know something about my problem?
[20:51] <richj> mat__ is this a non system disk problem?
[20:51] <mat__> I did not do anything to the machine.
[20:51] <Al__NZ> ok erU
[20:51] <Al__NZ> ok Eruaran
[20:51] <Al__NZ> ok erUSUL
[20:51] <scott_ino2> Pretty experienced linux/ubuntu user here but i wanna ask why my display dims every 30 seconds by 50% on AC power or battery doesn't matter
[20:51] <Al__NZ> sorry about the typos
[20:51] <erUSUL> mdm: he did that already quote « The disk with ubuntu can still be mounted with the  live system (all data there, fdisk shows partition is bootable),
[20:51] <richj> IngerPoznas, since I have been online, your problem has not be mentioned. Whats up?
[20:51] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: no problem
[20:51] <gnewb> halberd: That is what I am guessing also, it could be easy as an update or may need a device installed.
[20:51] <IngerPoznas> i have a conflict between rythmbox and firefox....when i listen music i can't wach any videos on firefox because i have no audio and the contrary
[20:51] <Kingsy101> hey there, I am doing some web development work on ubunut atm, and I need to test it on IE.. is there a way of doing that on ubuntu?
[20:52] <Ahadiel> scott_ino2, gnome-power-manager would be my first guess
[20:52] <mdm> sorry erUSUL I didn't catch that
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> IngerPoznas:  you mean 'flash' videos?
[20:52] <richj> IngerPoznas, interesting
[20:52] <Ahadiel> scott_ino2, There's a setting to dim on idle
[20:52] <IngerPoznas> yes
[20:52] <scott_ino2> Kingsy101, yes try IE4linux, or run a virtual machine
[20:52] <spiorf> Kingsy101, virtualbox + xp + ie
[20:52] <erUSUL> Kingsy101: ie4linux or a virtualized install of windows
[20:52] <scott_ino2> Ahadiel, i have that setting unchecked
[20:52] <Ahadiel> scott_ino2, not sure then
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> !flash
[20:52] <krunk-|work> ah, driving me crazy. no back space sucks. it acts like a delete
[20:52] <halberd> gnewb there's a long process to install the wacom tablet, including downloading and compiling drivers and editing xorg.conf, there's no simple answer--I've done the long way but it only works when I restart X with the tablet plugged in at that time
[20:52] <scott_ino2> still happens if idle for 30 seconds or more...
[20:52] <unko> Kingsy101, if your doing a website than wouldn't you make the coding work with firefox & IE?
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> IngerPoznas:  theres some flash tweaks/extra package4s that may work around that issue.. but i dont know the details of them.
[20:52] <richj> IngerPoznas, can you give a more full description
[20:53] <King_Arthur> Kings101 you can install a firefox pluging
[20:53] <IngerPoznas> Dr_Willis: i have already flash but i have problem with the audio...
[20:53] <iggy1> IngerPoznas: do you use ALSA or OSS?
[20:53] <halberd> gnewb, the problem is something to do with ubuntu's automatic attempt at loading the tablet when it is plugged in, somehow it doesn't do everything that it does when it boots up
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> IngerPoznas:  yes.. there are issues with flash audio  with some people. its not a firefox issue.. its a flash (stinks) issue. :)
[20:53] <IngerPoznas> alsa
[20:53] <bsl> can anyone help me setup HW RAID5 on ubuntu server
[20:53] <slayton> is there a way to know the current cpu frequency?
[20:53] <richj> IngerPoznas, sometimes the clues are in the details........
[20:53] <Kingsy101> unko - heh yep but I have to test it
[20:53] <IngerPoznas> and how could i fix that?
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> !flash | IngerPoznas
[20:53] <Kingsy101> the versions of IE I need to test it on are 6 7 and 8
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> IngerPoznas:  check the flash wiki pages
[20:54] <mat__> @richj there is only one disk in the system, which was installed with ubuntu from the beginning
[20:54] <richj> Dr_Willis, greetings
[20:54] <Kingsy101> not really sure what you mean by vm.. wouldnt that be the same as just changing pcs? like I would have to re-start etc
[20:54] <erUSUL> bsl: it it is HW raid it should be set up in the bios of the card; shouldn't it ?
[20:54] <gnewb> halberd: Is it a storage device or a device like WiFi or something?
[20:54] <IngerPoznas> richj:  so for example when i switch on the laptop i open rythmbox if after i go on facebook and open a video i won't have any audio and firefox will crash
[20:54] <IngerPoznas> and after also rythmbox
[20:54] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, i dont have wlan0
[20:54] <unko> Kingsy101, i see, but really who uses ie anymore
[20:55] <erUSUL> musicpenguin_: after loading ath5k ?
[20:55] <bsl> erUSUL: the bios says its setup, but when I install ubuntu server it splits the RAID members up
[20:55] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, yes
[20:55] <halberd> gnewb it is a pointing device... but I don't think that my problem is specific to the device.  I think the problem has to do with the kernel's attempt to automatically load the driver when it gets plugged in
[20:55] <bsl> erUSUL: so I'm trying to partition it from within ubuntu
[20:55] <erUSUL> bsl: the raid card is supported by linux ?
[20:55] <halberd> gnewb I think it either loads the wrong driver or doesn't apply the settings in xorg.conf to it
[20:55] <Kingsy101> I mean does anyone have any advice? what is meant by installing a vm?
[20:55] <richj> IngerPoznas, this sounds non trivial
[20:55] <bsl> erUSUL: I assume so, its a GIGABYTE mobo, which is fairly new
[20:55] <richj> IngerPoznas, no pun intedned
[20:56] <Jeruvy> !fakeraid | bsl
[20:56] <bsl> erUSUL: support RAID0,1,5,10
[20:56] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy101, vm is "virtual machine" ie VirtualBox or VMWare type thing
[20:56] <erUSUL> bsl: so it is not really hardware driver is the fakeraid typical of consumer mobos ... like intel matrix...
[20:56] <erUSUL> !fakeraid | bsl
[20:57] <IngerPoznas> ok thanks for your help
[20:57] <gnewb> halberd: I agree with that assessment, I am not certain if it is .xorg or .conkyrc
[20:57] <Kingsy101> what is meant by that? for example what would be the steps I had to take to say open internet explorer after I have create the vm?
[20:57] <bsl> I'm new to RAID but I assumed since the mobo claimed to support RAID then it was not a fakeraid
[20:57] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, any clue? or anything i should try?
[20:57] <mat__> @mdm checked cables first, all ok, ubuntu livecd sees the hdd
[20:57] <richj> IngerPoznas, has this problem happened from the beginning?
[20:57] <Jeruvy> bsl: unless it's a REAL raid card...it's fakeraid :)
[20:57] <bsl> ah okay
[20:57] <stealth-> Kingsy101: you can run windows ontop of linux. so opening that internet explorer would be just like windows
[20:58] <stealth-> Kingsy101: you basically run two computers at the same time, with ubuntu hosting the other system
[20:58] <erUSUL> bsl: it is raid implemented in the bios software... if you plan to use only linux on the machine it is better to sue linux's software raid implementation
[20:58] <mdm> mat__: run fdisk on it see if its marked bootable, if not rerun grub on it
[20:58] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy101, a Virtual Machine is an instance of say Windows running inside of Ubuntu - so it's a full install of Windows running...
[20:58] <erUSUL> bsl: *use*
[20:58] <mat__> @mdm it is marked bootable, checked that
[20:58] <erUSUL> musicpenguin_: i can not think on anything... if the driver does not see the card on load...
[20:58] <richj> mat__, do you get a non system disk error
[20:59] <mdm> mat__: you can run it again, it does not hurt (if the config it correct)
[20:59] <mat__> @mdm but "running grub" seem not to be easy
[20:59] <bsl> erUSUL: I wont take any CPU hit?  It's a home server, only 1.8GHz Celeron
[20:59] <Kingsy101> stealth- - is it difficult to setup?
[20:59] <stealth-> Kingsy101: no, not really
[20:59] <mat__> I do not get a "non system disk" error, the bios just seems to wait for a cd
[20:59] <erUSUL> bsl: the same hit as using the one in the bios... both are software and use main cpu
[21:00] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, ok thanks :)
[21:00] <richj> mat__,  I would say same difference
[21:00] <Kingsy101> stealth- - what kinda operating system would you advise running of it? xp ?
[21:00] <mdm> bsl if you did not spend a few hundred dollars on the card, if it does not have a plugin for a battery backup, its probably sofware (read driver) raid5.  Like erUSUL said go make a md out of them and put the card in jbod mode
[21:00] <stealth-> Kingsy101: whatever one you want. Why are you doing this, btw?
[21:00] <erUSUL> bsl: just linux raid is better supported (obiously) and is faster on most situations
[21:01] <Kingsy101> stealth- - I need to do some web development testing with IE but my development platform is on ubuntu
[21:01] <mat__> richj, I do not get a "non system disk" error, the bios just seems to wait for a cd
[21:01] <richj> mat__, first things first... check that the hard disk is recognised in the bios, and that the bios is set up to boot from the correct disk
[21:01] <stealth-> Kingsy101: oh, in that case, its much easier just to install wine
[21:01] <glitsj16> slayton: "cat /sys/devices/system/cpu/cpu0/cpufreq/scaling_governor" will give you the active cpufreq governor
[21:01] <Kingsy101> I have wine installed
[21:01] <bsl> Kingsy101: I only spent a few hundred dollars on the entire system, so I'm not prepared to spent a few hundred on a RAID card, lol
[21:01] <mdm> erUSUL: I have yet to see one situation in which fakeraid was faster then software raid.  There really is no comparison the differnce it blatantly obvious.
[21:01] <stealth-> Kingsy101: wine is a windows emulator, it pretends to be windows so you can run windows applications
[21:01] <erUSUL> bsl: read the first two paragraphs here https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FakeRaidHowto
[21:02] <bsl> erUSUL: I havn't read the wiki yet, but dmraid is the prog I'm looking at
[21:02] <stealth-> Kingsy101: I belive, when you install it, it comes build in with EI
[21:02] <Kingsy101> stealth- - I have wine installed but I cant find a program that runs on it that emulates internet explorer 6 7 and 8
[21:02] <michalski-bj> hello, mild problem, when I log in, it doesnt look like compiz is automaticly starting, neither nautilus, I need to open gnome-terminal and manually start them, everytime
[21:02] <mdm> stealth-: Wine Is Not an Emulator, from its name, description and man page
[21:02] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy101, stealth- i don't think IE 8 is gonna run very will under wine???  it might though.
[21:02] <stealth-> mdm: yeah, bu I cant remember the right word
[21:02] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, if i have a pci card...will that work on a pci-e port?
[21:02] <bsl> erUSUL: I was about to go ahead and set it up with dmraid, but i kept seeing the phrase "fakeraid" and I was still under the impression I had HW raid
[21:02] <erUSUL> musicpenguin_: nope
[21:02] <Kingsy101> has anyone in here had it running before? I just need to find an app that might do it...
[21:03] <kevin__> pci and pci-e are different slots..
[21:03] <Kingsy101> all I need is those 3 versions
[21:03] <wbncly> hi ;P
[21:03] <michalski-bj> .....
[21:03] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, well i have a pci wireless card and i just did lspci and it shows pci-express
[21:03] <erUSUL> bsl: real HW raid card with memory processor batteries cost the same as a whole computer...
[21:03] <avishek> !ubottu
[21:04] <kevin__> pci-express is for video cards.. basically.. pci = wirelss cards and similar
[21:04] <musicpenguin_> PCI Express Port 1 (rev 04)
[21:04] <tunnlrat> Kingsy101, why would you need your stuff to run in the older versions of IE?? They upgrade it for a reason to attempt to stop the loopholes, even microsoft doesn't give support for them anymore ppl should upgrade and can for free
[21:04] <michalski-bj> !compiz
[21:04] <Al__NZ> erUSUL: boy dd is slow - shes gonna take a while!!!!
[21:04] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, so my wireless is a pcie?
[21:04] <bsl> erUSUL: thanks for the info, I'll see what I can do
[21:04] <Kingsy101> tunnlrat - I agree but there is no point in saying that.. the sad fact is that people still use old browsers
[21:04] <mdm> bsl: I have 4 raid arrays, 3 are external SATA and one internal.  The internal one is really just 4 SATA disks in a 1+0 md with lvm. the external are real raid5.  my next step is to remove that internal array and make it external via eSATA and that is for heat, not performance nor raid setup
[21:05] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: no, its pci.. pcie is for videocards
[21:05] <musicpenguin_> oh ok
[21:05] <bingo> Hii again
[21:05] <erUSUL> Al__NZ: yes... maybe you gain some velocity if you tweak bs parameter... not sure if ddrescue support it though (normal dd does)
[21:05] <musicpenguin_> so why does it say pice?
[21:05] <avishek> !aptoncd
[21:05] <tunnlrat> Kingsy101, lol yes and those people need no websites to work and force them to upgrade or admit defeat and move to linux anyway! Don't Cater to them!!! Fight them!!
[21:05] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, why does it say pci?
[21:05] <ZykoticK9> Kingsy101, if you need to test IE 7 & 8, then using a Virtual Machine is probably your best bet.  good luck.
[21:05] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: post your lspci in pastebin
[21:05] <xmadragex> hi i got my nvidia driver working with the 173 now my problem is resolution it does not see or let me go to 1600x1200
[21:05] <musicpenguin_> ok
[21:05] <slayton> I'm having problems with my cpu frequency scalling. i have a 3ghz core 2 duo but the cpu scaling always says its running at 2ghz
[21:05] <avishek> !offline
[21:06] <hifi> ssh connections to a jaunty box timeout in LAN, other systems work well, I can telnet to the port and get the SSH header
[21:06] <bingo> ubuntu 8.04 server edition , i have install kubuntu-desktop and ubuntu-dekstop, now i have install tightvncserver but when we connect it show me grey screen.. ?????
[21:06] <mat__> richj, I just re-checked the bios and disabled all other boot devices except the hdd which is recognized by the bios. Now the system hangs with "Verifying DM Pool Data" after displaying the IRQ_Table.
[21:06] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, http://pastebin.com/d76f57f36
[21:07] <tunnlrat> mat__, try disconnecting all drives but the One hdd in question??
[21:07] <bingo> any one know tight vncserver configuration at ubuntu-server edition 8.04
[21:07] <erUSUL> slayton: what does "sudo cpufreq-info" says
[21:07] <erUSUL> ?
[21:07] <richj> mat__ I suspect this is 'initially' a bios problem. I am not forgoing the possibility that there are further issues
[21:07] <xmadragex> anyway if someone can help me with my nvidia resolution problem PM me since am at work and i zigzag around like a bee
[21:07] <richj> mat__, can you reset the bios and try to get the comp to boot from the hd
[21:07] <slayton> erUSUL, command not found
[21:07] <mat__> richj, no drives are connected other than the cd-rom an hdd in question
[21:07] <entraide-net> pvrusb2 from http://www.isely.net/pvrusb2/pvrusb2.html (included with recent kernels). from which kernel ???
[21:07] <ZykoticK9> bingo, you might want to look into the .xinitrc file, that grey screen is X starting without a windows manager running, you might also need to check out the .vnc folder in your home directory.  good luck.
[21:08] <Xero> To backup downloaded repositories cache
[21:08] <erUSUL> slayton: XD install cpufreq-utils
[21:08] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: i dont see the pci-e newhere
[21:08] <richj> mat__ you should not be getting irq problems
[21:08] <misha> hi all - need network help ifconfig  & dhclient - trying to use ICS from wm61 phone
[21:08] <Xero> sudo tar zcvf apt.tgz /etc/apt/ /var/lib/apt/ /var/cache/apt/
[21:08] <tunnlrat> mat__, are the HD and Cdrom both on the same ide cable??
[21:08] <michalski-bj> hello? anyone, problem with compiz and nautilus here
[21:08] <richj> mat__, when did the problems start????
[21:08] <mat__> richj, with reset you mean "defaults" ?
[21:08] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: okay i see it lol.. but its just a bridge
[21:08] <erUSUL> slayton: iis cpufrequtils
[21:08] <gnewb> halberd: Did you look at Launchpad?
[21:08] <mat__> tunnlrat, no hdd is sata
[21:08] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, so its just a pci right?
[21:08] <richj> mat__ yes that is what I mean.. When did this issues start? did you change anything before?
[21:08] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: #
[21:08] <kevin__> 00:1e.0 PCI bridge: Intel Corporation 82801 PCI Bridge (rev d4)
[21:08] <bingo> Zykotick9: thanks  brother... for replying.. ok now i check .xinitrc... 1 min stay here :)
[21:09] <kevin__> thats teh slot you are thinking of.
[21:09] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: ye its pci, lol..
[21:09] <Guest55996> hi guys.. can anyobdy help me with pm-utils and how i can create a new hook for when the laptop lid is closed ??
[21:09] <gnewb> halberd: I found this at launchpad: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/237357
[21:09] <slayton> erUSUL,
[21:09] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, i see a pci express at the end
[21:09] <slayton> erUSUL, http://paste2.org/p/271473
[21:10] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: lines 12 not lines 56
[21:10] <bingo> zykotick9: where is .xinitrc file lcoated ?
[21:10] <slayton> erUSUL, here is my cat /proc/cpuinfo http://paste2.org/p/271474
[21:10] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, from that can you see my wireless card?
[21:10] <Dr_Willis> bingo:  you can make one in the users home directory
[21:11] <erUSUL> slayton: can you launch a cpu intensive task ?
[21:11] <kevin__> well its not recognizing a pci wireless card no,
[21:11] <krunk-|work> so I want to set up the ubuntu server so that system mails are relayed through my isp's smtp. what's the most straight forward way of doing so?
[21:11] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, how funny..i have wirless up with ndiswrappers but ath5k doesnt see wlan0
[21:11] <bingo> Dr_willis: i installed $sudo apt-get install tightvncserver .. then i did # tightvncserver it asked about passwrd i entered..
[21:11] <ZykoticK9> bingo, actually i think you need to look at ~/.vnc/xstartup (.xinitrc is not present be default probably, but it tells X what Windows Manager to start - it would be in your home folder)
[21:11] <slayton> erUSUL, yes... what should I run during that task?
[21:12] <xmadragex> anyway if someone can help me with my nvidia resolution problem PM me since am at work and i zigzag around like a bee (sorry for double type)
[21:12] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: ye thats good, i thought you can use hardware drives >> administration >>system
[21:12] <Kingsy101> could I possibly ask someone to help me install a vm on my ubuntu machine? if someone has a few mins to spare?
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> bingo:  read the docs for that  vnc server. You can make a simple .xinitrc if you wanted. (2 lines) --> xterm &       metacity
[21:12] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: instead of ndis
[21:12] <erUSUL> slayton: something that will get the cpu to scale to its full freq
[21:12] <krunk-|work> maybe I'll just uninstall exim4 and do it with postfix
[21:12] <richj> Kingsy101, its very easy
[21:12] <Dr_Willis> bingo:  i tend to use vnc4server it uses .vnc/xstartup for its programs to startup
[21:13] <ZykoticK9> bingo, i had this issue yesterday with Medibuntu the fix there was to add "unset SESSION_MANAGER" to the ~/.vnc/xstartup file -- but that was really a XFCE specific issue...
[21:13] <richj> Kingsy101, make a new virtual drive, mount the install cd
[21:13] <Kingsy101> richj - can we talk in a pm?
[21:13] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, my hardware drivers is empty
[21:13] <richj> Kingsy101, ok
[21:13] <Kingsy101> thanks
[21:13] <bingo> Zykotick9: yes here is xstartup,  it is showig that.. xrdb $home/.Xresource ... #ssetroot -solid grey ... x-terminal-emulater -egeometry 80x.... x-windows-manager &
[21:13] <wizzo50> ##eggheads
[21:13] <slayton> erUSUL, i can do that but the cpu only goes to 2.67 ghz not 3.00 ghz
[21:13] <mdm> Kingsy101: install vbox, run it, make an instance for ubu, virtualise either the iso image or the actual cd/dvd then start the instance you made and have fun
[21:14] <mat__> richj, no, nothing done before. Maybe ubuntu got some updates yesterday, but I do not recall anything special - its all automatic. I did not install any other software or anything. I just made ubuntu shutdown. Then this morning the computer was shaken quite a bit due to craftsmen repairing the house (device off). After that the problems started, which was, why I first checked the cables and sound of the hdd and ran the short test of seatools (its
[21:14] <mat__>  a barracuda 7200.11 1.5 TB). Is it important that my ubuntu is 64bit?
[21:14] <halberd> gnewb okay, but it doesn't help me so much
[21:14] <erUSUL> slayton: hardware limits: 2.00 GHz - 2.67 GHz <<<< and available frequency steps: 2.67 GHz, 2.00 GHz <<< that's what the hardware supports according to linux...
[21:14] <krunk-|work> does ubuntu "count on exim4" I'm not familiar with exim, but wouldn't want to break anything by uninstalling it
[21:14] <bingo> Dr_willis: first of all it is ubuntu 8.04 server edittion which hadn not GUI , so i installed by $sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop
[21:14] <richj> mat__, pm me
[21:14] <bingo> now i am seeing /etc/init.d/gdm here it also restart
[21:14] <erUSUL> slayton: so either your bios/linux has a bug or the cpu only suports 2.67
[21:15] <slayton> but cat /proc/cpuinfo clearly shows that i have a 3ghz cpu
[21:15] <mdm> erUSUL: one of mine does available frequency steps: 2.60 GHz, 2.40 GHz, 2.20 GHz, 2.00 GHz, 1.80 GHz, 1000 MHz
[21:15] <jrib> krunk-|work: if you try to remove it and "ubuntu" needs it, it will tell you
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> bingo:  bingo  you really dident need to do that. You could of just installed vnc4server (or some other) and a window manager - to get a 'vnc desktop'
[21:15] <mat__> richj, how do I do that?
[21:15] <musicpenguin_> where can i get hardware drivers
[21:15] <slayton> erUSUL, ok thanks
[21:15] <Dr_Willis> bingo:  jwm is a good very very light window manager i use with vnc a lot
[21:15] <slayton> I'll file a bug report
[21:15] <mat__> richj, I mean in xchat ...
[21:15] <bingo> Dr_willis: firefox can run in this your window smanageer ?
[21:15] <erUSUL> slayton: ok do it against the kernel
[21:16] <erUSUL> slayton: out of curiosity can you paste your /proc/cpuinfo ?
[21:16] <bingo> Dr_willis: any nice tutorial for install Vnc4server for ubuntu 8.04 server edittion ?
[21:16] <ZykoticK9> musicpenguin_, "for the most part" drivers are built-into the linux kernel -- what hardware are you refering too?
[21:16] <wizzo50> Where you find a listing of IRC channels to go to?
[21:16] <slayton> here is my cat /proc/cpuinfo http://paste2.org/p/271474  erUSUL
[21:17] <musicpenguin_> ZykoticK9, im currently using ndiswrappers to get online...but i have to load them myself or otherwise the gui freezes permanetly and i have to reinstall ubuntu... i wanna try ath5k
[21:17] <bingo> Dr_willis: actualy i want to check some thing by explorer firefox, i thogut that it will work but not.. grey screen
[21:17] <bugs> hello
[21:18] <ZykoticK9> musicpenguin_, sorry man, i'm no help with that.  Good luck.
[21:18] <musicpenguin_> ZykoticK9, ok thanks
[21:18] <slayton> erUSUL, is this the proper place to file the bug? http://tinyurl.com/6nrlvc
[21:18] <wizzo50> Where you find a listing of IRC channels to go to?
[21:18] <F4lku> ./list
[21:18] <guest7560> hey, I have a dark gnome theme installed which works fine, however, the only trouble is in openoffice writer when the paper is displayed black. is there a way to launch open office writer to ignore all themes alltogether?
[21:18] <wizzo50> ./list
[21:19] <erUSUL> !bugs | slayton
[21:19] <musicpenguin_> why doesnst ubuntu have this do it at install....i thought jaunty would but still no
[21:20] <bingo> Dr_willis: :) where ?
[21:20] <n2diy> I'm trying to umount a flash drive, and I'm getting device is busy errors, how can I determine what is using the drive?
[21:21] <guest7560> is there a way to force open office to completly ignore a gtk theme?
[21:21] <MrStein> Hi! I pushed accidentally a shortcurt, and now my screen scrolls as I move the mouse (by about 10-20 pixels). I presses WINDOWS+r. What is this and how to turn it off ?
[21:21]  * MrStein has 9.04
[21:21] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, thanks for your help
[21:21] <musicpenguin_> erUSUL, thanks
[21:21] <erUSUL> musicpenguin_: no problem
[21:21] <musicpenguin_> no luck though :(
[21:21] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: hopefully you can figure it out
[21:22] <mdm> MrStein: try ctrl-alt-numpad_minus
[21:22] <musicpenguin_> hopefully
[21:22] <bugs> n2diy I think that it is impossible
[21:22] <musicpenguin_> thanks
[21:22] <MrStein> mdm: no effect
[21:22] <wizzo50> Where you find a listing of IRC channels to go too and check out?
[21:22] <kevin__> musicpenguin_: i would use ndis as last resort tho,
[21:22] <musicpenguin_> kevin__, that my plan.. :) thanks
[21:22] <jrib> !irc > wizzo50
[21:23] <n2diy> bugs: then how the heck do umount the drive, if I can't figure out why it is busy?
[21:23] <Khelben> i would like to use my ubuntu server as a mp3 streaming proxy, what kind of software can I use for that?
[21:23] <guest7560> is there a way to force open office to completly ignore a gtk theme? or any application to ignore a certain gtk theme?
[21:23] <mdm> n2diy: why dont you know what is using it?
[21:23] <MrStein> mdm: it is not a lower resolution. The difference is like 10%. And it moves instantly as I move the mouse, not when I reach the edge.
[21:23] <bingo> Zykotick9: now i come to main ponit, i installed vmware server, it has installed ver well at server but when i open : http://ip:8333 then after getting cerfiicate it got bussy not resoponse how could be ?
[21:23] <wizzo50> #ubuntu-beginners
[21:24] <bugs> n2diy: but i think that you can force the unmount
[21:24] <morbid_bean> Hello
[21:24] <n2diy> mdm: umount doesn't tell me, it just tells me it is busy. Everything is closed but my terminal, and xchat.
[21:24] <ZykoticK9> bingo, I'm affraid I don't use VMWare at all so i have no idea.  good luck man.
[21:24] <gaddzilla> @n2diy: try mount -l /whatever/to/unmount
[21:24] <bingo> Zykotick9: dont get affraid :) be brave.. Good Luck !!
[21:24] <mdm> n2diy: go run lsof and see, and run fuser on it
[21:24] <tunnlrat> guest7560, go to openoffice, Tools > options > then under the Openoffice.org tab go to appearnce
[21:24] <vjayus> i'm trying to get a cron job running. how do I confirm that it is running the task I
[21:24] <vjayus> ve defined under crontab.
[21:24] <bingo> Nomachine NX are also not working :(..
[21:25] <n2diy> mdm: ok.
[21:25] <MrStein> ah, it is zoom.  WINDOWS key + mouse wheel....
[21:25] <MrStein> bye
[21:25] <Khelben> i would like to use my ubuntu server as a mp3 streaming proxy, what kind of software can I use for that?
[21:25] <tunnlrat> guest7560, you should be able to change the background to white and keep it that way in there
[21:25] <erUSUL> !info shoutcast
[21:25] <SomethingElse2> Hello everyone... I'm wondering if this is the right place to ask for help with a corrupted package that won't go away?
[21:25] <mdm> n2diy: and if you want to know how to use fuser its one of the long standing jokes about linux, can look up the switches tho
[21:26] <Khelben> !info shoutcast
[21:26] <kevin__> Khelben:http://www.plus24.com/mp3-howto/mp3-howto-12.html
[21:26] <Jeruvy> SomethingElse2: go ahead and ask if anyone can help they'll respond
[21:26] <kevin__> Khelben: i've used ampache and it works great, has a nice web interface
[21:26] <ZykoticK9> Khelben, don't know what you mean by "proxy" but you might want to check out gnump3d for mp3 streaming, works well.  Good luck.
[21:26] <n2diy> mdm: um, ok.
[21:26] <krunk-|work> I'm trying to get rid of exim4 and install postfix. but getting a lot of errors: http://pastie.org/516890
[21:26] <ThE> plop
[21:26] <wizzo50> #ubuntu-us-ne
[21:26] <kevin__> Khelben: yes gnump3d is awesome as well you might want to try that first.
[21:26] <krunk-|work> I tried force uninstalling these exim packages, but they're not being removed
[21:27] <guest7560> tunnlrat, thanks
[21:27] <ThE> ubuntu is a fucking shit!
[21:27] <guntbert> n2diy: type fuser -m <path to your flash drive>
[21:27] <SomethingElse2> OK, so, I installed a package for dial-up modem drivers that was a bit sketchy, and it had a failed install from a .deb. I've since given up on the modem, at this point I don't care if it works. But, the drivers are loaded anyway when I boot and are considered always in use, so I can't remove the package, and that means I can't remove or upgrade or do anything at all with aptitude and such
[21:27] <SomethingElse2> so, is there a way to get rid of it, even though removing and fixing the tree doesn't work because the drivers are in use?
[21:27] <lich0r> if I am running a VM, and I install telnet on my host machine, I would not need to install it on the guest machine, right?
[21:27] <jlaroche> hey everyone
[21:27] <ThE> can you ferme ta gueule
[21:27] <SomethingElse2> I've already tried "blacklisting" the drivers, they still load
[21:27] <Khelben> keffie_jayx: ZykoticK9: my purpose is to use the server as the main mp3 stream downloader and let my other workstations connect to this server
[21:27] <lich0r> hey jlaroche
[21:27] <ThE> is quel heure?
[21:28] <jlaroche> Does anyone know if it is possible to program apps for the iphone in Ubuntu?
[21:28] <jlaroche> hey lich0r
[21:28] <ThE> easy
[21:28] <wizzo50> How do you open a tgz file?
[21:28] <guntbert> ThE: stop that please
[21:28] <Jeruvy> jlaroche: afaik, you need a mac.
[21:28] <ThE> nop
[21:28] <jlaroche> afaik ?
[21:28] <stealth-> wizzo50: open it will file-roller
[21:28] <erUSUL> jlaroche: apple will not release the iphone sdk for linux...
[21:28] <ctmjr> !tar|wizzo50
[21:28] <ZykoticK9> wizzo50, cli "tar zxvf file.tgz" will unarchive it to the current directory
[21:28] <Jeruvy> jlaroche: as far as I know
[21:28] <stealth-> jlaroche: As Far As I Know
[21:29] <kevin__> jlaroche: or a hackintosh.. google insanelymac, they have kalyway and iDeneb
[21:29] <krunk-|work> how can I force ubuntu to remove all remanents of exim4
[21:29] <ThE> on objextive c
[21:29] <ThE> you can make your app
[21:29] <erUSUL> krunk-|work: tried the suggested « sudo apt-get install -f » ?
[21:29] <guntbert> !ops | ThE
[21:29] <ThE> i ve made some of appstore
[21:29] <erUSUL> krunk-|work: tried the suggested « sudo apt-get -f install  » ?
[21:29] <wizzo50> I download Mailman and it wouldn't run on here
[21:30] <krunk-|work> erUSUL: that would force install postfix, but not remove exim4 right?
[21:30]  * DBO looks at guntbert oddly
[21:30] <krunk-|work> and since they both provide a sendmail, would that not cause issues?
[21:30] <morbid_bean> Laoch
[21:30] <lich0r> jlaroche, I do not code by any means, but when I google ubuntu and iphone sdk I saw many results...perhaps one of them would help you?
[21:30] <guntbert> DBO: why?
[21:30] <losher> lich0r: in general, it's best to assume the VM host and VM guest are completely separate, so the answer is you need to install it on both if you want to talk to both...
[21:30] <erUSUL> krunk-|work: dunno; i spect to remove one or the other to avoid the conflict in mail-transport-agent
[21:30] <gaddzilla> krunk-|work: if you're just talking about removing the dependencies and such, try sudo apt-get autoremove
[21:30] <krunk-|work> erUSUL: it errors out on that as well
[21:30] <DBO> guntbert, what was he doing wrong except for not understanding that the enter key is not a comma?
[21:30] <wizzo50> Where is File roller at on ubuntu?
[21:31] <wizzo50> Or is is something I need to download and run?
[21:31] <erUSUL> wizzo50: when you double click on an archive in nautilus it opens
[21:31] <guntbert> DBO: look at his sentences about ubuntu being...
[21:31] <krunk-|work> ok, it removed exim4, but not the other exim packages. now it refused to install postfix or re install exim4 even when using the -f switch
[21:32] <krunk-|work> autoremove does not work
[21:32] <DBO> guntbert, that you, teach me not to backscroll enough, hes gone now already however
[21:32] <guntbert> DBO: :)
[21:32] <Sifr> Would someone mind helping me find the .img file I need to install Ubuntu from a USB external hard drive?
[21:32] <chiques> How can I change which device Amarok uses? I'm currently here is my debug http://paste.ubuntu.com/198759/
[21:32] <chiques> *Here is my debug
[21:33] <mdm> Sifr: do you want to boot that usb and install linux from it?
[21:33] <guntbert> !pastebin | chiques
[21:33] <gaddzilla> @Sifr: you can boot from ubuntu livecd, click administration, and there's a USB bootable creator there.
[21:33] <qr> What vnc software can I use to share a currently running desktop?
[21:33] <wizzo50> Mailman didn't work at first yesterday but does now. Then where do I run the setup for the Mailman on here?
[21:33] <gaddzilla> @qr: tightvnc is my favorite
[21:34] <lich0r> thanks losher
[21:34] <qr> gaddzilla: can that share a desktop that's logged in locally?  I thought no.
[21:34] <chiques> guntbert, What do you mean? I was fixing a type
[21:34] <Sifr> I can't boot from the livecd, it fails every time I try, so yes I'd like to install from the usb.
[21:34] <krunk-|work> all I want to do is remove one mta and install another, there's the endless cycle of errors: http://pastie.org/516890
[21:34] <chiques> *typo
[21:34] <gaddzilla> @qr yes, it can. you can choose to disable the local keyboard and mouse or not
[21:34] <qr> gaddzilla: hmm, my mistake then.  I'll check it out.
[21:35] <ctmjr> wizzo50 this might be some help to you in learning about ubuntu  https://help.ubuntu.com/6.10/ubuntu/desktopguide/C/index.html
[21:35] <WIGGMPk> I upgraded to the new 2.6.28-13 kernel in jaunty, and now my nvidia kernel module wont load.. I am currently running default generic driver.. Please help
[21:35] <lich0r> losher using a bridged connection doesn't change the security of the VM, right? It seems anyone with access to the box could already access the VM, as I play with it through virtualbox's GUI
[21:35] <Scunizi> Sifr: do you get at least to the first screen off the live cd?
[21:35] <kdw> krunk-|work: try installing ssmtp for mail-transport-agent to send system mail
[21:35] <guntbert> chiques: I wanted you not to paste a lot in here (misunderstanding you last line) :-), sorry
[21:36] <misha> hi all - need help with network - trying to use ICS from my moto q9c - stuck with no dhcp
[21:36] <Sifr> Scunizi: yeah, I get the language select, then the main disk menu, but every option on the menu causes my computer to irreparably freeze.
[21:36] <siwelwerd> Good afternoon.  Would this be the correct place to look for help with an installation of Ubuntu Netbook Remix, or is there another place for that?
[21:36] <krunk-|work> kdw: http://pastie.org/516902
[21:36] <chiques> guntbert, OK, that's what I figured....np
[21:36] <krunk-|work> nope
[21:36] <krunk-|work> this all started when I did "apt-get remove exim4"
[21:36] <krunk-|work> then tried to apt-get install postfix. explosions followed
[21:36] <Scunizi> Sifr: I had an issue similar.. I had to add pci=nomsi to the kernel boot line.
[21:37] <doppelganger_> hi guys, does anybody have a moment to help me fix a soundcard issue?
[21:37] <krunk-|work> apt-get fail
[21:37] <kdw> krunk-|work: tried to remove postfix?
[21:37] <krunk-|work> same circular error
[21:37] <Sifr> Scunizi: unfortunately I have no idea what that means. I've yet to find a useful resource to learn anything about boot lines or anything like that.
[21:38] <krunk-|work> postfix is not installed
[21:39] <krunk-|work> damnit
[21:39] <kdw> krunk-|work: tried apt-get -f install (by itself, no package name)
[21:39] <wizzo50> will they ever have voice talk on here with mic? LOL
[21:39] <iggy1> i need help.. if i install nvidia drivers (any verison) i get blank screen after reboot/reloading X
[21:40] <guntbert> n2diy: have you figured it out?
[21:40] <krunk-|work> kdw: doing that now, I'm getting exim4 back installed
[21:40] <Scunizi> Sifr: on the initial menu before loading the desktop.. push F6 and you'll get something new showing up .. look for the line mentioning kernel and at the end before "quiet splash" add pci=nomsi and hit enter.
[21:40] <n2diy> gunbert, no, still wading through it.
[21:40] <guntbert> !ask | doppelganger_
[21:40] <krunk-|work> ok, so I think I"m back to square one => replacing exim4 with postfix. though all I need to do is set up a smtp relay for system mail
[21:41] <Sifr> Scunizi: Alright thanks, I'l give that a shot. I guess if something goes wrong I'll just come back.
[21:41] <guntbert> n2diy: what does "fuser -m <path to your flash drive>" tell you?
[21:41] <doppelganger_> gotcha  =)   i have a creative xfi notebook card i'm trying to install. If i use lspci it lists my card, but past that i don't really know what to do to get it to work
[21:41] <n2diy> gunbert, no, still wading through it. I found five pids using /dev/sdb1, and I've been killing them in top. The first one I killed, closed my terminal!?
[21:41] <packet-sent> I have my drive fully encrypted using alternative installer everything has ran fine until the latest kernel update now my system wont boot unless I choose the earlier kernel,,I think the problem is that at boot time I am NOT being asked for my passphrase with the new kernel password, does anyone know how this might be fixable?
[21:41] <kdw> krunk-|work: try now installing ssmtp, hopefully it will prompt to remove exim4 for you
[21:41] <gaddzilla> @n2diy was your terminal in the directory you wanted to unmount?
[21:43] <n2diy> gaddzilla: I'm working on a flash drive, so I can't imagine terminal would be running from it.
[21:43] <guntbert> n2diy: open another terminal, and look again with fuser -m
[21:43] <krunk-|work> kdw: cool beans, you rock. I guess ssmtp will suffice for auch a simple task
[21:43] <yowshi> what is it with ubuntu and usb devices. iof a programming using one jamms thats it your screwed and have to reboot
[21:43] <n2diy> guntbert: doing that now.
[21:43] <yowshi> last time it was a webcam thias time it's a joystick
[21:43] <kdw> krunk-|work: thanks!  love them cool beans
[21:44] <krunk-|work> oh no, errors :P
[21:44] <gaddzilla> @n2diy I meant was your working directory the directory you mounted /dev/sdb1 in? that will cause your terminal to be "using" it
[21:44] <entraide-net> http://paste.ubuntu-fr-secours.org/src-16745 someone can check if my codes are good ???
[21:44] <mrwes> Just ran an update on Jaunty and got the following error message: update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common missing LSB information
[21:44] <aZaFred> quick question: running apt-get upgrade over ssh and it keeps getting killed in non-interactive mode because a conf file has changed since the previous version of the package was installed:
[21:44] <aZaFred> APT::Periodic::Unattended-Upgrade
[21:44] <aZaFred> err
[21:44] <BellinXFelon> i was wondering how i can install nero on xubuntu?
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> entraide-net:  you may want to give a slightly better summary of the question/problem to the channel..
[21:45] <entraide-net> I'm trying to build a script to install Ati proprietary drivers ...
[21:45] <aZaFred> Configuration file `/etc/apache2/apache2.conf'
[21:45] <aZaFred>  ==> Modified (by you or by a script) since installation.
[21:45] <mrwes> there were also some packages kept back
[21:45] <FloodBot1> aZaFred: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:45] <Dr_Willis> BellinXFelon:  i perfer k3b to  nero :) there is a 'nero' for linux. but its lackin gin ways
[21:45] <ctmjr> doppelgaenger: what does aplay -l show for sound cards?
[21:45] <aZaFred> adding -y doesn't fix it... anybody has any idea how to get past that?
[21:45] <BellinXFelon> Dr_Willis I use k3b too, im just wondering if there is a faster way to burn iso to dvd
[21:46] <krunk-|work> kdw: it was a fake out
[21:46] <krunk-|work> http://pastie.org/516890
[21:46] <doppelganger_> ctmjr: no mention of the creative card shown there  =/
[21:46] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, growisofs
[21:46] <klb_> Hi there, is there a a repo for gnome shell?
[21:46] <mdm> Dr_Willis: I prefer growisofs, I dont need a gui, can run it via ssh and has many more options
[21:46] <krunk-|work> apt said "yah, I know what to do...oh wait, no I don't"
[21:47] <BellinXFelon> mrwes : so how do i use growisofs?
[21:47] <BellinXFelon> mrwes : i apologize, im rather new to this
[21:47] <misha> hi all - need help with network - trying to use ICS from my moto q9c - stuck with rndis not working
[21:47] <darkhelmetlive> is there a way to refresh the bash cache or whatever it is? like i compile something to /usr/local and it takes precedence over what's in /usr, and "which" reports the proper path, but bash still wants to run the old one
[21:48] <Dr_Willis> BellinXFelon:  if you have the iso allready made.. its trivial to do the actual 'burning'  its the generating of the iso that takes the time/effort/gui stuff :)
[21:48] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, for a dvd iso: growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso
[21:48] <krunk-|work> guess I'm stuck with exim4
[21:48] <BellinXFelon> ok
[21:48] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, dvd.iso = whatever you called your iso
[21:48] <mdm> growisofs -use-the-force-luke=dao -use-the-force-luke=break:1913760 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom=image.iso :P
[21:48] <sanjay> gud morning
[21:48] <BellinXFelon> mrwes : i understand i just plug in the name of the iso and type that into konsole
[21:49] <n2diy> Ok, I got the flash drive erased. How do you know when to use /dev/sdb1 or /media/disk with a command? They both point to the same device, but seem to have different behaviors?
[21:49] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, yah...I always all mine dvd.iso, because I use a bash alias to type the rest
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  /dev/ is the DEVICE  /media/ is the Mountpoint.
[21:49] <kdw> krunk-|work: mmph.  backuppc requires -some- mail-transport-agent
[21:49] <guntbert> good evening sanjay, do you have a support question?
[21:49] <BellinXFelon> mrwes: I see, and this is faster than k3b?
[21:49] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, alias burndvd='growisofs -dvd-compat -Z /dev/dvd=dvd.iso && eject /dev/dvd'
[21:49] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  you mount a device to a mountpoint.
[21:49] <sanjay> yes guntbert
[21:50] <kdw> krunk-|work: just going to look at the rdepends...
[21:50] <sanjay>  can u help me pls
[21:50] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, dunno...I use both -- I'm a big fan of K3b -- rock solid app
[21:50] <mdm> n2diy: /dev/anything is a link to the device, and unless you used mknod /media/anything is where ubuntu mounted things to
[21:50] <krunk-|work> kdw: yeah, that makes sense but shouldn't apt know what I"m trying to do is replace that dep?
[21:50] <guntbert> !ask | sanjay
[21:50] <mrwes> Ok...who'll stop the rain?
[21:50] <ctmjr> doppelgaenger: ok , what ubuntu distro are you using? and we need to find out what module alsa needs to load for your card
[21:50] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me what this error is... ---> http://www.pastie.org/516917 <--- I get that error when I try to start my VM
[21:50] <doppelganger_> ctmjr- jaunty on this box
[21:51] <n2diy> Dr_Willis: ok, so when using the rm command, I should point it at the device, and not the mount point?
[21:51] <BellinXFelon> mrwes: ok, another thing...my friend has xubuntu on his pc and has trouble connecting to the network, I have checked all the wired connections and everything is fine, what else could it be?
[21:51] <sanjay> i want  usa  yahoo messenger with video  and voice chat option in  ubuntu... but i don't know how? can u pls help me on this regard?
[21:51] <huayra> ping
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  logically that makes no sence. :) if you want to remove 'files' from a mounted filesystem.. you use the 'mountpoint'
[21:51] <|aspire|> hi is it possible to convert this windows script
[21:51] <|aspire|> @echo off
[21:51] <|aspire|> call "ant" -f "%~dp0\build.xml" deploy
[21:51] <|aspire|> pause
[21:51] <FloodBot1> |aspire|: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:51] <Dr_Willis> n2diy:  if you were formating a filesystem you use the /dev/whatever   ,
[21:51] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, well...I'd find out what type of card he has first
[21:51] <kevin__> BellinXFelon: sudo ifconfig eth1 down, sudo ifconfig eth1 up, sudo dhclient eth1
[21:51] <sanjay> i want  use  yahoo messenger with video  and voice chat option in  ubuntu... but i don't know how? can u pls help me on this regard?
[21:52] <BellinXFelon> ok
[21:52] <kdw> krunk-|work: hmm ssmtp is on the depends list for backuppc mail-agent, so it should work -- thinking...
[21:52] <mrwes> BellinXFelon, oh...he's wired in?
[21:52] <spilakviktor> #ubuntu-hu
[21:52] <BellinXFelon> mrwes yes he is
[21:53] <BellinXFelon> mrwes and its not a network problem because he can get on wirelessly through his ps3
[21:53] <guntbert> spilakviktor: type /join #ubuntu-hu
[21:53] <satya12345df> how to enable video?
[21:53] <Rikki_tikki> hello?
[21:53] <kdw> krunk-|work: looked at your pastebin again.  try removing mailx?
[21:53] <Natanael_L> Why is the font set strange on this Ubuntu 9.04 ?
[21:53] <mrwes> Dr_Willis, any guess on this error message on an update? update-rc.d: warning: /etc/init.d/linux-restricted-modules-common missing LSB information
[21:53] <krunk-|work> kdw: I'll give that a shot
[21:53] <mrwes> update-rc.d: see <http://wiki.debian.org/LSBInitScripts>
[21:53] <satya12345df> can u help me?
[21:54] <Kingsy101> someone have an idea about my issue?
[21:54] <sanjay> guntbert,,i want  use  yahoo messenger with video  and voice chat option in  ubuntu... but i don't know how? can u pls help me on this regard?
[21:54] <Natanael_L> In OpenOffice then. Where can I get the "normal" fonts?
[21:54]  * apap apap
[21:54] <krunk-|work> kdw: same result
[21:54] <Natanael_L> Arial and stuff...
[21:55] <satya12345df> how to get codecs plz help
[21:55] <glitsj16> sanjay: add the https://launchpad.net/~loell/+archive/ppa repository (instructions on the page) and install gyachi
[21:55] <guntbert> !codecs | satya12345df
[21:55] <sanjay> thanks glits...
[21:55] <krunk-|work> ok, the backspace button is broken in curses for me in ubuntu. so I can't dpkg-reconfigure exim4. anyone got a link to a bare minimum smtp relay config for exim4?
[21:56] <sanjay>  Sir Glits... is it enabled with voice and video  option
[21:56] <dimedo> hi, i'm trying to get kerberos auth to run with firefox and apache mod auth kerb on ubuntu jaunty amd64, kinit auth is working fine but i'm unable to login through the http auth dialog. also though that after kinit auth, i may be able to use negotiation auth but still the http auth dialog appears. (i setup the domain as trusted in firefox). any ideas what i'm doing wrong?
[21:56] <mdm> krunk-|work: define broken? stty erase does not work for you?
[21:57] <krunk-|work> wait, let me try x11. yeah, nothign happens
[21:57] <misha> hi pls help with dhclient  rndis0
[21:57] <chiques> How do I get to this window in Amarok? http://amarok.kde.org/amarokwiki/images/9/9b/Xine-config.jpg
[21:57] <glitsj16> sanjay: you're welcome, yes it does have voice/video chat enabled
[21:57] <guntbert> Kingsy101: there is #vbox, maybe you get better answers there
[21:57] <sanjay> thank u boss...
[21:58] <BellinXFelon> mrwes: yes he is wired in
[21:58] <Kingsy101> thanks
[21:58] <kdw> krunk-|work: try ssmtp install again?  what errors on that?
[21:58] <krunk-|work> kdw: it's the same lack of an MTA error
[21:58] <glitsj16> sanjay: :) haven't used it recently, hope it works fo you
[21:58] <misha> does ubuntu use ifcfg-lanx type of files to setup network ?
[21:59] <n2diy> when running a backup, are open files included?
[21:59] <siwelwerd> stupid question: how can i upgrade to the newest kernel (say, 2.6.30) from a CLI?
[21:59] <Natanael_L> Where's the windows font pack!?
[21:59] <Sirchade> restricted-extras
[21:59] <guntbert> !latest | siwelwerd
[21:59] <Natanael_L> siwelwerd: download, compile, point to it in GRUB
[21:59] <Sirchade> Natanael restricted extras has windows fonts
[22:00] <kdw> krunk-|work: lack of MTA?  ssmtp is an MTA.
[22:00] <krunk-|work> kdw: got it!
[22:00] <halberd> does "apt-get dist-upgrade" upgrade the kernel?
[22:00] <embrik> I'm trying to install citrix webclient and get this message when running the isntall script: Starting daemon
[22:00] <embrik> ./citrixvpn-linux-2.4-i386.sh: 416: /etc/init.d/net6vpnd: not found
[22:00] <Natanael_L> Sirchade: Where is it? I can't find it
[22:00] <krunk-|work> kdw: had to uninstall exim4, then reinstall exim4, after uninstalling mailx. that let the daemon start/stop correctly, then I installed ssmtp which replaced exim4
[22:00] <krunk-|work> kdw: now....for smtp relay to my isp
[22:01] <embrik> tried ggogle, but I haven't been able to find any soultions
[22:01] <abarbaccia> hello, i'm having a lot of problems with jaunty freezing. ive googled and read some bug reports but if someone can help me find the source, that would be excellent
[22:01] <embrik> can anybody help me install citrix web-client?
[22:01] <Natanael_L> I can not find restricted-extras !
[22:02] <embrik> Natanael_L, ubunt-restricted-extras
[22:02] <ctmjr> doppelgaenger: could not find anything on that card except some old forums about it not being supported here is alsa page maybe you can find it http://www.alsa-project.org/main/index.php/Matrix:Main
[22:02] <embrik> ubuntu-restricted-extras
[22:02] <Sirchade> yea
[22:02] <Natanael_L> halberd: If the Ubuntu team has rupdated the kernel, yes. If you are upgrading the entire dist version
[22:03] <Natanael_L> thanks - it was ubuntu-restricted-extras. :D
[22:03] <Sirchade> got to have verdana
[22:03] <doppelganger_> ctmjr: yeah, it has seemed to be hopeless thus far through my googling. Thanks for your attention though man
[22:03] <Natanael_L> It's for my moms' and dads' laptop of course, I'd never use that on my own *cough cough*
[22:03] <davidfx> hello all
[22:04] <Sirchade> heh
[22:04] <davidfx> any gtkpod experts there
[22:04] <Natanael_L> bye, don't need more help now
[22:04] <LinuX2half> is there another movie player for Gnome?
[22:04] <LinuX2half> Totem Movie player seem to have some problems
[22:04] <ctmjr> doppelgaenger: your welcome you might try one of the other creative modules on that page you never know
[22:05] <doppelganger_> ctmjr: i'll give it a shot, i haven't seen some of info listed here yet
[22:05] <losher> LinuX2half: mplayer, xine, vlc...
[22:05] <losher> !multimedia
[22:06] <ville_> I cant understand why my HP 6175s laptop cant boot any ubuntu versions
[22:06] <ville_> shitty laptop i guess
[22:06] <LinuX2half> is that at Add/Remove App.?
[22:06] <nellmathew> hey does anyone have the "flattened" firefox (gnome-colors) panel svg?.. seems to be missing from the offical packages now.
[22:07] <tethridge> anybody know of a way to disable the functionality that is new for the latest release of ubuntu that selects all white space when you click in a terminal window at the end of a line?
[22:08] <tethridge> it's driving me nuts
[22:08] <halberd> tethridge, are you sure it isn't just because you're dragging the mouse very slightly
[22:08] <TheWolfen> Hey, I'
[22:08] <TheWolfen> Whoops...
[22:08] <tethridge> halberd, no, it happens when I just click
[22:08] <sanjay> if ubuntu  operating system crashed.. then is there any option to auto recover  from with in it? (like ghost recovery in windows)
[22:09] <tethridge> I'm clicking to focus and it wipes out my selection that I was about to paste with a middle click
[22:09] <Kingsy101> can someone take a look at this error -----> http://www.pastie.org/516930 <--- anyone seen that before? I get it when I try to start my VM using virtualbox
[22:09] <nellmathew> tethridge, is your double-click sensitivity real high?
[22:09] <TheWolfen> I'm having a bit of trouble with Apache, and am having a bit of trouble checking it locally. I'm using dyndns, and neither the dyndns nor the global ip seem to work. When I access it locally, I'm fine. Anyone know what gives?
[22:09] <tethridge> nellmathew, I haven't adjusted my double-click sensitivity.  I believe it's just the normal behavior with the latest release
[22:09] <tethridge> give it a try
[22:10] <Eevee> TheWolfen: apache might be set to Listen to only your local ip
[22:10] <zenxr> Can anybody help me? I need to follow the instructions on http://www.phoronix.com/forums/showthread.php?t=13139
[22:10] <Eevee> TheWolfen: find the Listen directive in its config and make sure it's *:80
[22:10] <tethridge> just left click in a terminal window, it will select the whole line when you click where there isn't any text
[22:10] <Eevee> tethridge: not here
[22:10] <zenxr> Idk how to use git, all i've done so far was install it.
[22:10] <ctmjr> doppelgaenger: is this your card  http://us.creative.com/products/feature.asp?category=1  if so there is a driver for it but looks like you will have to jump thru some hoops to get it to work
[22:10] <tethridge> Eevee, on jaunty x64?
[22:11] <Eevee> tethridge: jaunty x86
[22:11] <TheWolfen> Eevee: I had it set to that at one point, and now have it at 0.0.0.0:80. Would that be part of the issue?
[22:11] <stapel> how do I copy the bootloader from one disk to another?
[22:11] <Eevee> tethridge: but I seriously doubt there'd be a behavior change like that between x86/x64
[22:11] <nellmathew> tethridge, that happens for me but only when i double click..
[22:11] <Dr_Willis> stapel:  you could use the 'dd' command with the proper arguments for that..  but ive never had to do so.   google for 'backing up the mbr'
[22:12] <tethridge> Eevee, I agree
[22:12] <Dr_Willis> stapel:    or use the grub commands to insall grub to the other drive
[22:12] <stapel> dr willis: thanx
[22:12] <tethridge> Eevee, click on a blank line once
[22:12] <tethridge> then pause, then click in the same place again.  Leave a few seconds between the pause
[22:12] <tethridge> excuse me, between the clicks
[22:13] <Eevee> TheWolfen: I don't think 0.0.0.0 will do the right thing, no
[22:13] <losher> stapel: can you say more about what you're trying to achieve?
[22:13] <gaby01> hallo
[22:13] <rexha> I have a problem with my Digital Camera: Sony Corp. DSC-S30/S70/S75/F505V/F505/FD92/W1 Cybershot/Mavica Digital Camera , in gThumb in Import Photo options says:An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[22:13] <Eevee> tethridge: two clicks doesn't highlight.  double-click does a word highlight, which in this case selects the blank space (which I think is just a new line).  maybe your double-click sensitivity is off
[22:13] <camel_> guys - I am running an ubuntu server on a machine and I am trying to setup ircd-hybrid - whenever I try to connect to my server it says connection refused - even from within my network
[22:13] <nellmathew> tethridge: this right? - http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1364542/screen.png
[22:14] <camel_> how can I fix it???
[22:14] <tethridge> nellmathew, yes
[22:14] <kultbunt> Hello I have a HP 6175s laptop but I cant boot ubuntu on it :(
[22:14] <camel_> anyone?
[22:14] <nellmathew> tethridge, yeah that only happens when i double click, and i remember it being in intrepid/hardy too
[22:14] <TheWolfen> Eevee: I switched it back, and am still getting no love. I think you're right, though, that the default *:80 wasn't the thing to change.
[22:14] <Eevee> TheWolfen: you reloaded or restarted, right?
[22:15] <doppelganger_> kultbunt: how far do you get?  (just asking questions, i'm definitely not a pro)
[22:15] <rexha> I have a problem with my Digital Camera: Sony Corp. DSC-S30/S70/S75/F505V/F505/FD92/W1 Cybershot/Mavica Digital Camera , in gThumb in Import Photo options says:An error occurred in the io-library ('Could not claim the USB device'): Could not claim interface 0 (Operation not permitted). Make sure no other program or kernel module (such as sdc2xx, stv680, spca50x) is using the device and you have read/write access to the device.
[22:15] <fccf> !repeat | rexha
[22:15] <Eevee> TheWolfen: you behind a router?
[22:15] <satya12345df> help me installin gstreamer ugly
[22:15] <TheWolfen> Eevee: Yes, and yes.
[22:15] <losher> kultbunt: ville said the exact same thing about 10 minutes ago. I googled it & see other people with the same issue, no apparent workaround...
[22:15] <nellmathew> satya12345df - just use applications - add/remove..
[22:16] <rexha> sorry
[22:16] <TheWolfen> Eevee: I have port forwarding sending port 83 globally to local port 80 on my machine.
[22:16] <krunk-|work> kdw: I changed the ssmtp config, but don't see an init script for it in /etc/init.d?
[22:16] <stapel> Losher: i have two disks in a pc. One is for windows. The other one has ubuntu on. The ubuntu one is a small one (2G) that really just act as a recovery disk. I installed ubuntu on there using the ubuntu minimal cd, to customize it a bit. Problem is grub installed itself on the Windows disk. I would like to move it to the ubuntu one, and then fix the windows one, so that the windows disk remains in tact.
[22:16] <losher> krunk-|work: it's not a daemon, so no init script...
[22:17] <Eevee> TheWolfen: is apache serving a page with a title of 'wolfserve'
[22:17] <scoates> trying to set up postfix to authenticate users, and I get "cannot connect to saslauthd server: No such file or directory" in the logs. Some googling turned up similar problems, but no solution for me. Any ideas?
[22:17] <kultbunt> losher: ok thx
[22:17] <TheWolfen> Eevee: Why, yes!
[22:17] <TheWolfen> Eevee: How did you manage to get that?
[22:17] <Eevee> TheWolfen: aha!  probably the IP doesn't work because your router is a bit dim, and dyndns is broken somehow
[22:17] <nellmathew> tethridge, are you on a laptop?
[22:17] <Eevee> TheWolfen: went to your IP at port 83  :P
[22:18] <cozmoz> hi, I recently installed crossover, but now I decided to remove it, how do I do that?
[22:18] <TheWolfen> Eevee: ?!?! My word!
[22:18] <tethridge> nellmathew, no a workstation
[22:18] <nellmathew> ah ok
[22:18] <carbon3> stapel: notebook or desktop?
[22:18] <losher> stapel: fixmbr from the windows recovery disk for the windows disk, grub-install from the live-cd for the ubuntu disk.
[22:18] <pandi2456> where is zeno_
[22:18] <stapel> carbon3: desktop
[22:18] <tethridge> I guess I'll have to do a little more research and then take some video footage of the screen to show what's happening.  Thanks for the help everyone.
[22:19] <embrik> anybody who can help me installing citrix web client?
[22:19] <nellmathew> tethridge, np, good luck with that..
[22:19] <cozmoz> anyone?
[22:19] <carbon3> beside that losher said, you should change your oot order
[22:19] <losher> cozmoz: I thought there was an uninstall script. Look in ~/.cxoffice or /opt/cxoffice
[22:19] <stapel> losher: how do i do the grub install from the live-cd?
[22:19] <cozmoz> ok, ty losher
[22:20] <cabrey> losher, it's in /opt/cxoffice
[22:20] <nellmathew> stapel : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351
[22:20] <mib_94dm9o0f> Hi everyone, I've been using Ubuntu in a virtual box machine and I think I'm now ready to make the switch. Yet still... I'm an Ubuntu noob. Is there a way I can take all my programs and system settings from my vbox version of my desktop version?
[22:20] <embrik> I'm trying to run an install scipt but there is a problem with net6vpnd
[22:20] <losher> cabrey: depends on how you installed it I think i.e. systemwide or per-user
[22:21] <cozmoz> losher,  I can't find any... how to remove thru terminal?
[22:21] <cabrey> losher, ah good point, i always run standalone installers as root, just in case
[22:21] <forceflow> mib_94dm9o0f: most of the configuration files are in your home folder
[22:21] <cabrey> mib_94dm9o0f, backup your home directory
[22:21] <forceflow> mib_94dm9o0f: so a lot of settings you could just preserve by copying over the right files to your final install
[22:21] <losher> stapel: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=224351 for example
[22:22] <cabrey> !home | mib_94dm9o0f
[22:22] <mib_94dm9o0f> Sweet, thanks
[22:22] <phoenixz>  I have this in the /etc/fstab: UUID=ff479173-12f1-416b-88d8-58e60282585d /boot           ext2    relatime        0       2
[22:22] <phoenixz> so its using the UUID for the LVM device, not the /dev/vgname/lvname
[22:22] <phoenixz> I want to add another lv to the fstab
[22:22] <phoenixz> but I cant find the UUID for that lv
[22:23] <stapel> losher: nellmathew: thanks
[22:23] <phoenixz> I tried lvdisplay, but the UUIDs in there are no the ones I find in the fstab.. Where can I find these UUID's?
[22:23] <grkblood13> does anyone know how to turn off the annoying computer voice in mumble?
[22:23] <racecar56> http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f254c59b5
[22:23] <glitsj16> phoenixz: have you tried "sudo blkid" yet?
[22:23] <yowshi> hmmm the retsart only killed one dosbox process
[22:24] <racecar56> !uuid
[22:24] <phoenixz> glitsj16: not yet, let me try
[22:24] <TheWolfen> Eevee: Could you try http://dontpanic.endofinternet.net:83 ?
[22:24] <Eevee> TheWolfen: yup, wfm
[22:25] <Eevee> TheWolfen: I'm pretty sure your router has to do some sort of backflips to make requests to your own WAN IP work correctly, and some routers just don't know how to do that
[22:25] <TheWolfen> Eevee: Okie doke, that's keen then.
[22:27] <phoenixz> glitsj16: perfect!
[22:27] <losher> cozmoz: no cxuninstall script anywhere?
[22:27] <efox> exit
[22:28] <sled> hello
[22:28] <cozmoz> losher,  found it X)
[22:28] <glitsj16> phoenixz: one less thing, going to take a break, have a good one
[22:28] <TheWolfen> Eevee: It works perfectly! And I just didn't know! Craaaay-zay!
[22:28] <cozmoz> thanks for the help
[22:29] <sled> I have an external harddrive with a FAT FS on it, I unlinked some files, is there a tool to undelete files on FAT ?
[22:29] <sled> :S
[22:29] <sled> it's urgent :)
[22:30] <sivan26f> Hello , i have Inno3D(nvidia) card , i connected to the s-video output my slide projector but it not working ? any ideas ? (i checked my slide projector on the same computer with other operating system windows xp and it worked fine)
[22:31] <corzo> any one speack spanish?
[22:31] <krunk-|work> I'm getting the following error with ssmtp: http://pastie.org/516966
[22:31] <krunk-|work> I have set up the config with authuser and authpass, I'm using the exact same smtp server, user, and pass I use in my python smtplib scripts which works
[22:31] <grendal_prime> anyone haveing a problem with pidgin and yahoo?
[22:32] <xemacs4321> grendal_prime, mine worked 3 mins ago
[22:32] <arash_> i have an odd problem on my tc4400 tablet (HP).. on ubuntu 9.04, when i close my lid, my mouse moves sporadically and randomly clicks all over the screen. i'm not sure what is causing it...
[22:32] <glitsj16> sled: never had to do a recovery on FAT, but https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DataRecovery might have some things you can try
[22:33] <losher> !es | corzo
[22:33] <grendal_prime> its werid...i try other im's like kopete and it works fine..and pidgin still connects to googletalk just fine
[22:33] <corzo> ok thanks
[22:34] <corzo> my bad
[22:34] <wizzo50> sled, NTFS Undelete
[22:35] <embrik> I get this question: What is the location of your linux kernel source? [/usr/src/linux] What shal I answer if uname gives me 2.6.28-13-generic
[22:35] <sled> wizzo50, found "foremost" :)
[22:35] <losher> krunk-|work: any idea which host-not-in-DNS its referring to?
[22:36] <wizzo50> ok
[22:36] <krunk-|work> losher: not really, I can do the same thing with gmail info and it works. usually when I've seen errors like this it's when you're trying ot send mail through a non-auth based smtp server that verifies reverse dns
[22:37] <krunk-|work> losher: I would think that this is the issue except that I can use verizon's smtp servers in my python scripts fine when doing auth based mailout
[22:38] <losher> krunk-|work: ssmtp worked fine for me with gmail & comcast. Try it with debugging turned on?
[22:38] <sunevil> hi
[22:38] <sunevil> what can i install to hear mp4 files?
[22:38] <sivan26f> Hello , i have Inno3D(nvidia) card , i connected to the s-video output my slide projector but it not working ? any ideas ? (i checked my slide projector on the same computer with other operating system windows xp and it worked fine)
[22:38] <krunk-|work> wait, I got it
[22:38] <losher> sunevil: try mplayer...
[22:39] <arash_> i have an odd problem on my tc4400 tablet (HP).. on ubuntu 9.04, when i close my lid, my mouse moves sporadically and randomly clicks all over the screen. i'm not sure what is causing it... is there a way to track mouse movements and which device is sending the movements?
[22:39] <losher> krunk-|work: what was it...
[22:39] <sunevil> losher, i did it but Opening audio decoder: [ffmpeg] FFmpeg/libavcodec audio decoders
[22:39] <sunevil> Cannot find codec 'libamr_nb' in libavcodec...
[22:39] <losher> !codecs
[22:41] <sunevil> thanks
[22:42] <TheWolfen> Eevee, thanks a lot. I'm on my way, all.
[22:42] <sunevil> ohhhhh...same error
[22:44] <antony> hi
[22:44] <Stephen_> Anyone in here?
[22:44] <losher> sunevil: looks unfixable, see https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/mplayer/+bug/110196
[22:44] <phoenixz> I was moving a directory structure from a to b with mv.. I had to interrupt in the middle and now I want to resume, but mv tells me it cant move anymore because the target directory already exists (duh, just keep moving in there!).... How can I get mv to resume moving?
[22:44] <antony> hi stef
[22:45] <losher> Stephen_: 1455 users & counting....
[22:45] <Kingsy101> anyone in here use VirtualBox OSE ?
[22:46] <gartral> so whats with 2 kernal updates in a day?
[22:46] <Stephen_> Can someone answer hopefully a basic question regarding a Pidgin problem I just started having? I'm fairly new to Ubuntu and can't seem to find answers in the database
[22:46] <gartral> !ask | Stephen_
[22:47] <FiloSottile> hi, i have a wlan0 connection with a numer of rx packets (in ifconfig) that goes up, but i can't connect to the internet
[22:47] <FiloSottile> so how can i activate the connection?
[22:47] <Stephen_> I recently started having problems unable to sign into Yahoo from Pidgin, but I can sign into all my AIM SN's?
[22:47] <losher> krunk-|work: still there?
[22:48] <gartral> Stephen_: Im having that prob too, as well as my friend... seems too be a selective problem on Yahoo's side
[22:48] <[dynami]> How would i view shared files on my network (windows) , via ubuntu ?
[22:48] <FiloSottile> noone? how to activate a connection (that is in interfaces)?
[22:48] <Stephen_> yeah... it just started the other day
[22:49] <chetnick> FiloSottile: i dont think that has anything to do with your Ubuntu config. Sound more like router config.
[22:49] <chetnick> I might be wrong.
[22:49] <noob537> what folder are desktop wallpapers stored in?
[22:49] <Stephen_> and then carried into today as well, so I checked to see if there were errors w/ Yahoo by signing in on my Win OS and it's fine
[22:49] <gartral> !samba | [dynami]
[22:49] <Myxb> hi, how do i write protect a file from deleting? the rm [file] still removes 'regular' files even if the ownership is wrong.
[22:49] <chetnick> FiloSottile: if you got IP from router or modem, then you should be good to go.
[22:49] <racecar56> http://racecar56.pastebin.com/f254c59b5
[22:49] <FiloSottile> chetnick: ip are static
[22:50] <BellinXFelon> im having connection problems with xubuntu. It is a hard wired connection and works fine everywhere else. It just says that it is unable to connect, I know that its not the ISP, what else could it be and how do i fix it?
[22:50] <chetnick> FiloSottile: Can you ping router?
[22:50] <FiloSottile> chetnick: moment
[22:50] <chiques> Is there to run dmesg so that when I plug in USB devices it shows automatically?
[22:50] <Uplink> how can i get rid of the tracker applet?
[22:50] <gartral> BellinXFelon: does your router have mac address filtering?
[22:51] <chetnick> Myxb: you need to read up on permissions. You cant delete file if correct permissions are set.
[22:51] <Stephen_> gartral do you play any web games or use other sites that are Java enabled... I've noticed that Java seems to time out after about 30 minutes... and don't see any settings to correct this issue?
[22:51] <Bodsda> Myxb: you could set the sticky bit so only the creator and root can remove the file
[22:51] <bassie> when i boot my laptop, sometimes it stops at "setting advanced power management to 0xfe" and also the screen may turn black for a couple of seconds.. i have to reboot it a couple of times before i get to the login screen
[22:51] <yowshi> is there a way to use a joystick to control the mouse cursor?
[22:51] <FiloSottile> chetnick: yes
[22:51] <gartral> Stephen_: oddly I dont have that problem, are you on 32 or 64 bit ubuntu?
[22:51] <BellinXFelon> gartral, im not sure
[22:51] <Uplink> "Tracker - There was an error while performing indexing: Index corrupted" [Reindex all contents] [Cancel] [Ok]
[22:51] <gartral> BellinXFelon: what router do you have?
[22:52] <Uplink> ???
[22:52] <chetnick> FiloSottile: so you have IP set, and you can ping router, but no internet. Again sound to me like router config problem.
[22:52] <BellinXFelon> its a linksys
[22:52] <Stephen_> ummmmm.... good Q haha, I'm very new to this... I love it... but my friend kinda left me in the dark once he got me onto it
[22:52] <BellinXFelon> gartral* its a linksys
[22:52] <Bodsda> Uplink: choose the reindex option
[22:52] <chetnick> FiloSottile: can you ping google.com, maybe name server is bad.
[22:52] <Uplink> Bodsda: same error pops again
[22:52] <gartral> BellinXFelon: a linksys /what/
[22:53] <FiloSottile> chetnickn: probabily... can you resolve google.com, please, and give me ip?
[22:53] <chetnick> FiloSottile: try ping google.com and if it does not work try to ping 74.125.127.100
[22:53] <gartral> Uplink: alot of people including me have that problem, you''ll need too remove the indexer
[22:53] <FiloSottile> "unknown host"
[22:53] <Uplink> gardar: how do i do that?
[22:53] <Bodsda> Uplink: Uplink http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7241925&postcount=5
[22:53] <max_> Hi, I'm having a time problem. Any program that looks to my computer for the time and format uses 24 hour time (but my clock is set to use 12hr time) Why arent these programs seeing the time in 12hr format?
[22:53] <gartral> uplink open a terminal and type sudo apt-get remove tracker
[22:54] <FiloSottile> chetnick: oh, YEAH! it's the dns, how can i set it up?
[22:54] <BellinXFelon> gartral, im sorry nevermind it was just not connected right
[22:54] <Bodsda> gartral: found a fix on the forums -- http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7241925&postcount=5
[22:55] <gartral> BellinXFelon: well.. THAT would explain it!
[22:55] <BellinXFelon> gartral, haha
[22:55] <the1corrupted> How can I fix this error?  "E: Could not open file /var/lib/apt/lists/mirror.noreply.org_pub_tor_dists_-_main_source_Sources - open (2 No such file or directory)"
[22:55] <_Rha7_> Hi evry1, Does anybody know what to do to have dpkg-buildpackage generate a -all.deb package (that is, not i386, amd64, or anything)?
[22:55] <chetnick> FiloSotti: add to /etc/resolv.conf line: nameserver <ip_of_your_router>
[22:56] <adriano> ad
[22:56] <jrib> _Rha7_: why?
[22:56] <chetnick> FiloSottile:  add to /etc/resolv.conf line: nameserver <ip_of_your_router>
[22:56] <FiloSottile> chetnick: or the open dns ip, no?
[22:56] <Myxb> Bodsda: i've changed permissions to 101444 and root:root and still can delete under normal user.
[22:56] <Stephen_> gartral... where would I find my bit?
[22:56] <chetnick> FiloSottile: well i would go with router ip first, if it does not work, than try that.
[22:57] <spsneo> is there any way to customize notification in ubuntu jaunty?
[22:57] <Bodsda> _Rha7_: in the control file, change architecture to 'all'
[22:57] <_Rha7_> jrib: trying to build a shell script package, so it is basically arch independent, but it generates a i386 deb package, which doesn't work at my other amd64 laptop, and for that case in other distros
[22:57] <chetnick> FiloSottile: router should forward queries.
[22:57] <spursncowboys> hi everyone. Is anyone in here having problems with mediatomb? In your opinion, is there a more reliable site like mediatomb? I have a ps3.
[22:57] <jrib> !packaging > _Rha7_ , it's what Bodsda said, but here is the documentation you should be reading
[22:58] <jrib> erm,... what?
[22:58] <booyab> is there a way to mute a particular process?
[22:58] <_Rha7_> Bodsda: U the man
[22:58] <Kingsy101> http://img218.imageshack.us/i/screenshot1efx.png/ <--- anyone seen an error like that before?
[22:58] <jrib> !packaging > _Rha7_
[22:58] <_Rha7_> :) Thanks
[22:58] <booyab> or... whitelist the programs that are allowed to make sound?
[22:58] <spaztik> what's a good app for configuring a game pad?
[22:58] <chetnick> FiloSottile: you might need to restart networking.
[22:59] <spsneo> is there any way to customize notification in ubuntu jaunty?
[22:59] <VCoolio> spsneo: no, they are fixed to according to a certain idea of what notifications should do, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD
[22:59] <the1corrupted> I'm having trouble with apt-get.  Whenever I run an apt-get command (other than apt-get install), I get this error here: http://pastebin.com/d1f6e0805
[22:59] <Bodsda> _Rha7_: no problem, take a look at this for future reference: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PackagingGuide/Complete
[22:59] <_Rha7_> Thanks a lot, Architecture:all did it
[22:59] <jrib> msg ubottu packaging
[22:59] <FiloSottile> chetnick: 1) how? 2) did you mean /etc/resolvconf?
[23:00] <kazagista1> can I transform an existing ubuntu installation into a netbook remix by just adding/removing packages? which ones?
[23:00] <spsneo> VCoolio: like it keeps popping up whenever a buddy signs in (in pidgin)
[23:00] <chetnick> FiloSottile: lets go on private.
[23:00] <spsneo> VCoolio: and its irritating
[23:00] <VCoolio> spsneo: ah that you can set up in pidgin
[23:00] <Hughesy> Can anyone help me view the shutdown log?
[23:01] <VCoolio> spsneo: tools > plugins > libnotify popups, select and configure
[23:01] <yowshi> is there a way to use a joystick to control the mouse cursor?
[23:01] <spaztik> yowshi, i usually use qjoypad
[23:01] <Stephen_> Gartral are you in a terminal right now?
[23:01] <spaztik> but i'm tryin to find if there's something better
[23:02] <the1corrupted> I'm having trouble with apt-get.  Whenever I run an apt-get command (other than apt-get install), I get this error here: http://pastebin.com/d1f6e0805
[23:02] <jrib> the1corrupted: how about apt-get update?
[23:02] <spsneo> VCoolio: thanks a ton!
[23:02] <VCoolio> spsneo: np
[23:02] <the1corrupted> jrib: That works fine.  It's when I use build-dep or source that this error pops up..
[23:03] <jrib> the1corrupted: so you've run apt-get update followed by one of those commands?
[23:03] <the1corrupted> jrib: Yes.
[23:03] <echonoob> hello can someone help me with 9.04
[23:04] <the1corrupted> jrib: Though it also seems I get some 404 errors when I run the update..
[23:04] <jrib> the1corrupted: does the file exist?
[23:04] <echonoob> have x61 ibm thinkpad.... the middle scroll button doesn't work
[23:05] <echonoob> anyone?
[23:05] <Stephen_> Does anyone have a problem with Java timing out after a certain period of time?
[23:05] <sztomi> Hi. I've got two mp4 video files which I would like to join into one. Is it possible (without reencoding them?)
[23:05] <the1corrupted> jrib: No, it doesn't
[23:05] <[dynami]> echinos,  what about it ?
[23:05] <jrib> the1corrupted: pastebin the output from apt-get update and the contents of your /etc/apt/sources.list
[23:06] <max_> Hi, I'm having a 'locale' problem. It's set to 24hr time, when I trun the 'date' command in the terminal it returns the time in 24hr formatting. How can I change this to display 12 hour formatting?
[23:06] <mikeh789> echonoob: http://blog.aliencam.net/tag/thinkpad/
[23:07] <BellinXFelon> im having trouble with k3b, when i try to record iso image i get this write error :-[ WRITE@LBA=86b60h failed with SK=0h/ASC=00h/ACQ=03h]: Input/output error
[23:07] <BellinXFelon> :-( write failed: Input/output error
[23:07] <hatter243> !locale | max_
[23:08] <the1corrupted> jrib: http://pastebin.com/dc9d37c7
[23:08] <mikeh789> echonoob: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1139856
[23:08] <[dynami]> ubuntu work from USB flash ?
[23:08] <hatter243> [dynami], yes
[23:08] <[dynami]> well ?
[23:08] <jrib> the1corrupted: remove the failed repositories from your sources.list
[23:08] <hatter243> yes
[23:09] <[dynami]> 4GB enough ?
[23:09] <hatter243> Sure, why not.
[23:09] <york666> Hi, Who knows how to use the Intel Compiler?
[23:09] <[dynami]> hatter243, any tutorials around ?
[23:09] <Stephen_> HAHAHAHA, I guess my problems are pretty minor to most here
[23:09] <hatter243> !usb | [dynami]
[23:09] <echonoob> thanks mikeh
[23:09] <york666> Hi, Who knows how to use the Intel Compiler? I'm using ubuntu 9.04.
[23:09] <[dynami]> hatter243, thanks
[23:09] <echonoob> i'll try to see if i can follow it
[23:09] <yowshi> spaztik: that is gjoypad?
[23:10] <hatter243> Stephen_, or we're not java guys/girls =(
[23:10] <Stephen_> or that hatter :-).... I've just never seen something like that happen... even the Mac doesn't just freeze after it's timed out
[23:11] <mikeh789> echonoob: that second on looks like it will help. I think that middle mouse paste issue is a firefox thing
[23:11] <LGB-L> raise your hand if pidgin is your favorite IRC client
[23:11] <Guest93612> 1
[23:11] <echonoob> ok thanks
[23:11] <Stephen_> hatter can you tell me where I'd find what bit version I'm using?
[23:11] <hatter243> Stephen_, can you get more specific? If you just say "Does anybody...?" it's hard to know where to start
[23:11] <mikeh789> about:config if you see the same thing
[23:12] <hatter243> Stephen_, man java says that you can type "java -version"
[23:12] <the1corrupted> jrib: Done, no 404 errors on apt-get update.
[23:12] <lwells> does 9.04 have a problem with sleep mode??
[23:12] <lwells> I cannot not get to wake up
[23:13] <lwells> They say 8.10 was fine
[23:13] <Stephen_> no sir.... not Java version.... that's easy.... earlier gartral was askin if I was using 16 bit or 32 bit Ubuntu.... I do not see any info. about my bit.... just the version
[23:13] <[dynami]> Live USB creator, is that on the newest version of ubuntu ?
[23:14] <pyxton> hey guys is there anyway i can increase the disc quota for ubuntu after the installation ???
[23:14] <hatter243> Stephen_, "uname -a" you're looking for either X86_64 or X86 or something like that
[23:14] <Xet> Hello I hope you can help Im freaking out well I havent done anything recently but today when I try to log in, i cannot see anything I mean, juts the black screen and the cursor wheel loading, but nothing It doesnt load
[23:14] <Xet> Im on a live cd now by the way
[23:15] <hatter243> Stephen_, or more specifically "uname -m"
[23:15] <pyxton> i have the same problem  ! !  do you think you have enough  memory ?? xet ?
[23:15] <york666> Hi, Who knows how to use the Intel Compiler? I'm using ubuntu 9.04. How do I make the command source become auto?
[23:15] <vigo> pyxton: I think gparted can be used for that. but I am not certain.
[23:15] <pyxton> thnx vigo
[23:15] <york666> Hi, Who knows how to use the Intel Compiler? I'm using ubuntu 9.04. How do I make the command source become auto?
[23:15] <hatter243> Xet, confirm that your home directory is owned 100% by you
[23:16] <yowshi> spaztik: have you tried js2mouse?
[23:16] <Stephen_> I understand if I saw something like hatter I'd know that's what I'm looking for.. I'm saying specifically I'm not sure where I'm looking to even get that info.
[23:16] <Xet> hatter243: I think It is because when I try to open something on the live cd It says that it cant
[23:17] <hatter243> Xet, write this next bit down. Boot into ubuntu (not the live CD) and type these in
[23:17] <lwells> So there is nothing wrong with sleep mode in 9.04?
[23:17] <iceroot> lwells: there is always something wrong with sleepmode, because linux has big problems with it, so its depending on your hardware
[23:17] <Xet> hatter243: what do I type
[23:18] <lwells> ahh ok
[23:18] <lwells> Was not aware of that
[23:18] <max_> Hi. I can't get my locale to use 12 hour time. I've tried resetting the locale using 'localepurge' but it still uses 24hr formatting. Is there anyway to force 12hr formatting?
[23:18] <york666> Hi, Who knows how to use the Intel Compiler? I'm using ubuntu 9.04. How do I make the command source become auto?
[23:18] <hatter243> Xet, when you get to the login prompt press CTRL+ALT+F1 You'll get to a text prompt. Login to there. sudo chown -R [username].[username] /home/[username]      <---- Be sure to put your username in there. Then reboot and try to log in again. If that doesn't work, boot into recovery mode and select the "Fix X problems" option
[23:19] <york666> sourceHow do I make the source command become automatic??
[23:19] <hatter243> max_, did you read !locale?
[23:19] <foonet> what is the best firewall software for ubuntu and how can I find it?
[23:19] <sztomi> Hi. I've got two mp4 video files which I would like to join into one. Is it possible (without reencoding them?). Avimerge doesn't work
[23:19] <hatter243> !best | foonet
[23:19] <iceroot> foonet: iptables but why need a firewall?
[23:19] <vigo> !firewall | foonet
[23:19] <max_> hatter243: yes, It just had info on resetting it, which i did. It didnt hel[p
[23:20] <Xet> hatter243: ok thanks
[23:20] <foonet> iceroot: network that I am on has sensitive information.
[23:20] <nellmathew> can someone try sudo apt-get update and upgrade, see if they get the message : "The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic, linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[23:20] <Davi1> hello everyone. i am currently installing ubuntu, i'm on the live disk, but on the 5th step which is the part where you enter your name etc. i get MigrationAssistant failed with exit code 127. can anyone help?
[23:20] <hatter243> max_, right click the clock choose Preferences select 12 hour format.
[23:20] <nellmathew> can someone try sudo apt-get update and upgrade (IN JAUNTY), see if they get the message : "The following packages have been kept back: linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic, linux-restricted-modules-generic"
[23:21] <ben--king> can one download the CD iso and burn it onto a DVD?
[23:21] <Davi1> ﻿hello everyone. i am currently installing ubuntu, i'm on the live disk, but on the 5th step which is the part where you enter your name etc. i get MigrationAssistant failed with exit code 127. can anyone help?
[23:21] <hatter243> nellmathew, that happens every time there's a kernel upgrade. Relax. If you want to install them sudo apt-get install linux-generic.....
[23:21] <nellmathew> hatter243 thanks a lot!
[23:21] <max_> hatter243: It is set to 12 hr formatting. The clock displays 12hr, but any program that looks to locale for  the time formatting uses 24hr. Including 'date' in a terminal.
[23:21] <Davi1> i'm kinda new at this so i'm not sure what it means
[23:21] <iceroot> nellmathew: also sudo-apt-get dist-upgrade
[23:21] <hatter243> max_, date always outputs 24 hour unless you specify otherwise. man date
[23:22] <Davi1> migration assistant failed with exit code 127?
[23:22] <max_> hatter243: Ah.
[23:24] <nellmathew> thanks iceroot, worked like a charm
[23:26] <gartral> Bodsda: thankyou my tracker is restored!
[23:27] <TUplink> is it posable to use a burner in another computer for mytharchive? like maybe mount /dev/dvd from the remote box?
[23:27] <Bodsda> gartral: your welcome
[23:27] <gartral> Stephen_: 32/64 there was never a 16 bit Ubuntu
[23:28] <TUplink> <---- waiting for the 128bit days
[23:28] <yowshi> anyone else maybe able to help with getting a joystick to be used as a mouse?
[23:28] <mat__> Thanks to all who helped - my ubuntu boot problem is solved thanks to hints from you and the newest version of the supergrubdisk
[23:29] <iceroot> how to clone a whole hdd/sd-card with grub, so it can boot?
[23:29] <sjlkg> hi, has anyone successfully configured laptop-mode-tools to disable/enable bluetooth when on battery/ac ?
[23:30] <sjlkg> laptop-mode-tools doesn't seem to disable/enable bluetooth for me
[23:31] <SethLutz> Hello
[23:31] <sjlkg> i just had a look in /usr/share/laptop-mode-tools/modules, the script seems to use the kernel module hci_usb, but i think the name of the bluetooth module is btusb ?
[23:31] <packet-sent> I enabled whole drive encryption using alternative install and everything has been running fine until the latest kernel update...now when it boots it does not ask me for the passphrase and then obviously fails to load beciase it cannot find root...anyone know of a fix so I can set it to ask for my passphrase at startup?
[23:32] <SethLutz> When I try to install Ubuntu, I only get the comand prompt.
[23:32] <HippyEwan> How can I play DVDs on Ubuntu?
[23:32] <Bodsda> !dvd
[23:32] <HippyEwan> Thanks
[23:33] <Davi1> sethLutz: are you installing from a live CD?
[23:33] <SethLutz> Yes, I am.
[23:34] <Davi1> SethLutz: the command prompt in the beginning or what command prompt. does it read the disk. this might help http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing
[23:35] <fccf> packet-sent: you might consider using the previous kernel by pressing ESC at the Grub loading screen and selecting the 3rd line .... this will use the older kernel ... you might get your machine back
[23:35] <Bodsda> SethLutz: is it a full bash shell or just a busybox?
[23:35] <SethLutz> What do you mean?
[23:36] <Bodsda> SethLutz: you said you only get  a command prompt, does it ask you to log in at the command prompt?
[23:36] <SethLutz> No
[23:36] <packet-sent> fccf: I have already done that and it works as expected it asks for my passphrase,is there anything I have to do with kernel updates in order for it work?
[23:36] <sjlkg> well does anyone know if i can just change the hci_usb in /usr/share/laptop-mode-tools/modules/bluetooth to btusb to make laptop-mode-tools work with the btusb module ?
[23:37] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok are you on the live cd right now?
[23:37] <Cry__Baby> I was moving a favourite around in Firefox, and Ubuntu crashed.. froze up.. I then had to hard core reboot and now all icons in tray have all moved around and I had to add "windows list" to Panel again... What happened and how can I unfreeze Ubuntu if it happens again?
[23:37] <fccf> packet-sent: look at /boot/grub/menu.lst and make sure the new kernel is looking for the boot in the same place with the same options as the new kernel
[23:37] <packet-sent> fccf: looking now
[23:37] <SethLutz> No, I am using MIRC on Windows Vista.
[23:37] <fccf> packet-sent: I meant old kernel in the second instance
[23:37] <hyde> there are many "-- MARK --" message in /var/log/messages on this Ubuntu 9.04 Vmware Guest, what is that?
[23:38] <packet-sent> fccf: yup gotcha
[23:38] <hyde> it shows up every 20 minutes ..
[23:39] <Cry__Baby> SethLutz: eeek
[23:39] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok. well does it not read the disk and normally read windows, or do you get something like the first image from this link http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/installing ?
[23:39] <jrib> hyde: man syslogd  I guess
[23:39] <fccf> hyde: totally normal ... it is just a keep alive message
[23:40] <SethLutz> I do not know what you are talking about.
[23:40] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok. you're trying to install ubuntu. obviously you have already downloaded the CD correct?
[23:40] <SethLutz> Yes
[23:40] <Stephen_> sorry gartral... I mistyped... got distracted by a phone call
[23:41] <Stephen_> I don't know if I'm using 32 or 64?
[23:41] <packet-sent> fccf: from what I can tell apart from the name of different kernels they all point to the same place uuid etc
[23:41] <hyde> thank you!
[23:41] <Cry__Baby> Stephen_: 32
[23:41] <fccf> packet-sent: same options??
[23:41] <packet-sent> fccf: yup
[23:41] <Cry__Baby> I was moving a favourite around in Firefox, and Ubuntu crashed.. froze up.. I then had to hard core reboot and now all icons in tray have all moved around and I had to add "windows list" to Panel again... What happened and how can I unfreeze Ubuntu if it happens again?
[23:42] <fccf> packet-sent: please pastebin your menu.lst
[23:42] <stealth-> thet toolbars for alot of my gnome apps have dissapeared, any one know how to get them back?
[23:42] <Davi1> SethLutz:  ok. so when you downloaded the disk, did you just burn it directly to a empty cd-r, or did you use an img burner?
[23:43] <Stephen_> cry thank you, so now I just need to address my Java timing out and freezing on me after 45-60 minutes
[23:43] <SethLutz> I got the CD in the  mail.
[23:43] <ChubZee> Doe anyon know of a simple way to get intrepid to recognise my Huawei E160 HSDPA modem after i've booted up? At the min i have to plug it in before the kernel boots, and I'm not too keen on using usb_modeswitch as i use several HSDPA modems and other USB devices which i'm concerned it might interfere with
[23:43] <Bodsda> Cry__Baby: I dont know if you can unfreeze, but you can restart the xserver without rebooting -- sudo apt-get install dontzap    then run    dontzap -d    then you will be able to restart the xserver by pressing   ctrl+alt+backspace
[23:43] <Cry__Baby> Bodsda: i cant type anything
[23:43] <Davi1> oh ok. so now did you change your BIOS to boot the cd? it's also known as the boot setup
[23:43] <Cry__Baby> Bodsda: frozen solid.. cant move mouse, cant type, nothing
[23:44] <Bodsda> Cry__Baby: try   ctrl+alt+f1
[23:44] <Cry__Baby> Bodsda: didnt work
[23:44] <Cry__Baby> frozen up
[23:44] <stealth-> Cry__Baby: next time, check to see if the keyboard lights are flashing
[23:44] <ongolaBoy> hi.what's the difference between 'apt-get update' and 'aptitude update' ?
[23:44] <packet-sent> fccf: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/m41c63a5
[23:44] <SethLutz> When I put the CD in and rebooted the computer, it booted up.
[23:44] <stealth-> Cry__Baby: that indicated a kernel panick, and is usually hardware related.
[23:44] <kiki67100> Cry__Baby, or CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE
[23:44] <Stephen_> LOL.... I'm glad my problems aren't quite as bad as others... it's just a nuisance more than anything
[23:44] <Bodsda> Cry__Baby: ok, i dont think theres anything you can do then, odd that it wont even let you switch to tty1
[23:44] <xXx_codex_xXx> hola
[23:45] <xXx_codex_xXx> speak spanish
[23:45] <ChubZee> ongolaBoy, aptitude is a smarter program generally, but both commands have the same end result
[23:45] <Bodsda> kiki67100: ctrl+alt+backspace is not enabled by default anymore
[23:45] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok good so then does it load the cd?
[23:45] <Bodsda> !espanol | xXx_codex_xXx
[23:45] <SethLutz> Yes
[23:45] <stealth-> ongolaBoy: apt-get is just a wrapper for aptitude, so afaik they do the same thing
[23:45] <Davi1> SethLutz: and it gave you a command prompt?
[23:45] <xXx_codex_xXx> ok thank you
[23:46] <Bodsda> stealth-: not quite, aptitude is a bit more low level
[23:46] <SethLutz> Are you talking about the thing that says "Try Ubuntu"
[23:46] <Davi1> SethLutz: yes. you have to click on that
[23:46] <stealth-> Bodsda: yeah, so apt-get just uses aptitude, doesnt it?
[23:46] <SethLutz> Yes, I get that
[23:47] <stealth-> thet toolbars for alot of my gnome apps have dissapeared, any one know how to get them back?
[23:47] <ongolaBoy> Bodsda: aptitude a bit more low level than apt ? i thought it was the contrary :)
[23:47] <ChubZee> stealth-, aptitude uses apt
[23:47] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok. once you're in there on the desktop or on system/administrator there should be an install button.
[23:47] <ChubZee> not vice versa
[23:47] <SethLutz> Yes
[23:47] <stealth-> ChubZee: oh. thanks for clearing that up
[23:48] <Stephen_> can anyone assist with a Java issue?
[23:48] <ChubZee> yw
[23:48] <S0LIDUS> Hi everyone could anyone tell me what LVM is?
[23:48] <Bodsda> ongolaBoy: I think you may be right actually, although apt-get is
[23:48] <stealth-> solid_liq: LVM is a Linux Volume Manager, its generally used to manager encrypted disks
[23:48] <Bodsda> apt-get is a frontend for dpkg
[23:48] <kiki67100> SethLutz, gnome-panel ?
[23:48] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok so then you click on the install button, and it basically takes you through a guide. on the partition setup, if you don't know much about partitions just select the default, otherwise you might mess up your windows partition
[23:48] <kiki67100> stealth- *
[23:48] <stealth-> SOLIDUS: LVM is a Linux Volume Manager, its generally used to manager encrypted disks
[23:48] <SethLutz> and when I install it, when I boot it up, it will do the comand prompt.
[23:49] <kiki67100> stealth-, your gnome-panel ?
[23:49] <Davi1> SethLutz: ok. on the command prompt what does it say? like what kinda command prompt is it
[23:49] <stealth-> kiki67100: no, not gnome panel, the toolbar, like the thing that says "File Settings About etc" and sits on the top of your programs
[23:49] <S0LIDUS> stealth: Is encrypted disks better than Windows disk encryption
[23:50] <stealth-> SOLIDUS: depends. What were you using to encrypt the windows disk? truecrypt?
[23:50] <kiki67100> stealth-, metacity --replace ?
[23:50] <fccf> packet-sent: I think your solution can be found here http://www.kennynet.co.uk/2009/04/27/ubuntu-jaunty-upgrade-encrypted-home-not-mounting/
[23:50] <stealth-> SOLIUS: generally, they use the same algorithms, but linux tends  to manage it better
[23:50] <S0LIDUS> stealth: Windows own encryption
[23:51] <sylvanus_> Does anybody know how to get jasper for kopete?
[23:51] <stealth-> SOLIDUS: afaik, they should be the same
[23:51] <yowshi> wooo joystick as mouse shtal worked
[23:52] <stealth-> kiki67100: no, its not an issue with the window manager itself, but with the apps
[23:52] <sylvanus_> does anyone know how to get jasper for kopete?
[23:52] <packet-sent> fccf: thnx for info will look into it..............
[23:52] <S0LIDUS> stealth: In windows if you encrypt the drive your programs are in some don't work!
[23:53] <Davi1> SethLutz: if it doens't boot ubuntu it might be your boot loader. what happens is if you install ubuntu after having windows on you computer, the boot setup, which basically choosing between windows and linux, is on default so it uses the windows one if i'm correct. what you wanna do is use the GRUB bootloader to dual boot.
[23:53] <Stephen_> any Java guru's out there for help?
[23:53] <stealth-> SOLIDUS: oh, you dont have to worry about that in linux. Everything will work as if it wasnt encrypted.
[23:53] <stealth-> Stephen_: you could try #java
[23:53] <S0LIDUS> stealth: Thanks!
[23:53] <stealth-> SOLIDUS: anytime ;)
[23:54] <kiki67100> stealth-, um.. its strange maybe your gnome config
[23:54] <Stephen_> Stealth... please elaborate I'm still fairly new to Ubuntu and a lil naive to some of this?
[23:54] <yowshi> well kind of worked and now it isnt
[23:54] <sylvanus_> well I guess I'm S.O.L. huh?
[23:54] <packet-sent> EFS  and syskey command make for a pretty seamless and strong encrypted windows box.well was when I used it
[23:54] <stealth-> Stephen_: are you trying to program in java, or get it working?
[23:54] <Stephen_> yes
[23:54] <stealth-> kiki67100: how could I check that?
[23:54] <Stephen_> where do I #java?
[23:54] <stealth-> Stephen_: that wasnt a yes or no question....
[23:55] <stealth-> Stephen_: are you trying to program in java, or get it working?
[23:55] <Stephen_> I misread.... it works... but with quarks
[23:55] <stealth-> Stephen_: what kind?
[23:55] <Stephen_> it times out after about 45-60 minutes
[23:55] <stealth-> times out? as in, it doesnt load?
[23:55] <kiki67100> stealth-, try to create a new user, and execute a software
[23:56] <stealth-> kiki67100: k
[23:56] <derspankster> anyone else having issues today with Pidgin not starting?
[23:56] <Stephen_> Stealth, correct... i.e. I'm playing games that are Java enabled.... and after some length of time... it just freezes and boots me out of servers
[23:56] <kiki67100> stealth-, or just do : sudo gedit
[23:56] <echonoob> what's a good newsreader for dl binaries?
[23:57] <echonoob> anyone?
[23:57] <stealth-> kiki67100: it works as a different user
[23:58] <stealth-> Stephen_: hmmmmmm..... I dont think I know enough about that stuff to help you past there. Sorry :(
[23:58] <SethLutz> When I boot up my computer, I get the dualboot thing, and I select Ubuntu and I get a comand prompt.
[23:58] <Stephen_> Stealth: it's ok... noone seems to have an answer for it so far... my friend who turned me onto Ubuntu is a computer guru... and he's not really sure either
[23:59] <kiki67100> stealth-, it working when you execute a software with a another user ?
[23:59] <stealth-> kiki67100: yes
[23:59] <yowshi> grrr i have horrific kuck with usb devfices
[23:59] <meho_r> echonoob: Pan?
[23:59] <echonoob> ok i'll try that then
[23:59] <kiki67100> stealth-, there is maybe a problem in $HOME ( /home/username )
[23:59] <stealth-> kiki67100: my .gnome directory has nothing that could be casuing it