[00:19] <mbiebl> Keybuk: still around?
[09:06] <Keybuk> mbiebl: am back around now
[09:07] <mbiebl> Keybuk: morning
[09:07] <Keybuk> morning
[09:07] <mbiebl> just wanted to let you know, that I stumbled upon a bug in 0.5.2
[09:07] <mbiebl> which I then reported as 388753
[09:08] <Keybuk> a bug not present in 0.5.1?
[09:09] <mbiebl> not sure, but iirc not
[09:10] <mbiebl> I was also wondering, when you plan to land more of the exiting stuff in trunk
[09:10] <mbiebl> like the new process monitoring etc.
[09:10] <mbiebl> currently the only difference I see between trunk and the 0.5 branch, is that 0.5 uses D-Bus for it's support utils
[09:11] <Keybuk> The D-Bus stuff was a bit of a nightmare
[09:11] <Keybuk> so I wanted to get that out of the way first, and make a release with it
[09:11] <Keybuk> otherwise it would have forever been over my head
[09:11] <Keybuk> (along with our security guy's knife :p)
[09:11] <mbiebl> ah, nice ;-)
[09:12] <Keybuk> going to start merging in the netlink stuff from today
[09:12] <Keybuk> needs some main loop changes first
[09:13] <mbiebl> looking forward to it.
[09:14] <Keybuk> when do you head into London? Sunday?
[09:14] <mbiebl> yeah
[09:14] <mbiebl> will be there around 14:00
[09:16] <Keybuk> cool
[09:16] <Keybuk> you can't miss our office building really - it's the only tall one ;)
[09:16] <Keybuk> I get down sometime Sunday evening
[09:17] <mbiebl> cool
[09:18] <mbiebl> Will the office building be open on Sunday?
[09:18] <Keybuk> no :p  probably not
[09:19] <Keybuk> there's free wifi at the hotel though
[09:19] <Keybuk> plus London's nice to wander around
[09:19] <Keybuk> weather is supposed to be good
[09:20] <mbiebl> yeah, I planned to do explore London a little on sunday afternoon
[09:22] <mbiebl> so I guess we will meet on sunday evening in the hotel then.
[09:25] <mbiebl> looking forward to it.
[14:23] <sadmac2> Keybuk: is this part of the time stuff you fixed recently? https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=506679
[14:23] <sadmac2> and did that make it to 0.3*
[14:37] <Keybuk> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/388873
[14:38] <Keybuk> the same guy just filed that in LP
[14:38]  * Keybuk links them
[14:38] <Keybuk> handy tip btw
[14:38] <Keybuk> (+) Also affects distribution
[14:38] <Keybuk> Distribution: Fedora
[14:38] <Keybuk> Source Package Name: upstart
[14:38] <Keybuk> URL: paste bugzilla URL
[14:38] <Keybuk> links the two together, and syncs information from BZ into LP
[14:39] <Keybuk> it's not fixed, because I didn't know about it until literally minutes ago ;)
[14:39] <Keybuk> going to confirm shortly
[14:42] <sadmac2> Keybuk: theres 2 more things I want to try to get into 0.3.11: The state transfer stuff, and the -f option for shutdown (reboot has it, shutdown seems to be missing it for some reason)
[14:42] <Keybuk> err, do you mean -f ?
[14:43] <Keybuk> -f and -F on shutdown did strange things
[14:43] <sadmac2> yeah
[14:43] <sadmac2> we have a BZ complaining about it
[14:44]  * sadmac2 wonders if jkatz' ticket about wanting upstart to eject CDs is still open...
[14:44] <Keybuk> again, please do file bugs in LP if you have them in BZ and link them ;)
[14:44] <sadmac2> never rolled that one, for reasons of "eeeew"
[14:44] <Keybuk> it makes sense to file all your bugs upstream
[14:45] <sadmac2> happily
[14:45] <Keybuk> damn, mbiebl wandered off, was going to nag him too :p
[14:47] <sadmac2> Keybuk: I'm a support engineer now, and the triager knows I have upstart knowledge, so come RHEL 6 all upstart bugs in RHEL will probably be going through me
[14:48] <sadmac2> (unless they find so many that I can't handle them all :)
[15:56] <sadmac2> Keybuk: I still don't see your patch in linus
[15:56] <Keybuk> akpm has it
[15:57] <Keybuk> it's somewhere in the firehose, it may not be part of the torrent yet ;)
[15:58] <sadmac2> Keybuk: yeah. You didn't actually send it to Linus, I was wondering how it was going to get there :)
[15:59] <Keybuk> you don't have to send everything to Linus
[16:00] <sadmac2> yeah, but when you send a patch to lkml you usually CC /someone/ who gives a particular damn (unless you're just looking for reviews)
[16:00] <Keybuk> right, Ingo and akpm saw it first
[16:02] <Keybuk> sadmac2: use Also affects when adding BZ links
[16:03] <sadmac2> Keybuk: yeah. Figuring that out from the update emails :)
[16:04] <Keybuk> did you notice what I did on bug #388745 ? :p
[16:05] <sadmac2> changed the summary
[16:06] <Keybuk> I replied with a sentence with "however" without a following comma ;)
[16:08] <sadmac2> oic
[19:02] <joshk> Keybuk: still there?
[19:05] <Keybuk> yes
[19:06] <joshk> see scrollback from 22:27 UTC yesterday?
[19:10] <Keybuk> I don't keep scrollback
[19:14] <Keybuk> what did you ask?
[19:15] <sadmac2> Keybuk, joshk: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/17/%23upstart.html
[19:15] <sadmac2> big brother is watching
[19:17] <arekm> hi, which dbus has function dbus_message_iter_abandon_container() ? stable 1.2.14 doesn't have it and upstart wants it
[19:18] <arekm> that irclog was actually useful
[19:18] <sadmac2> arekm: you need to apply the patch specified in the release notes
[19:18] <Keybuk> joshk: you need to add "console output" to the job that runs rc.local
[19:20] <joshk> Keybuk: just the word?
[19:20] <joshk> like, in a comment or something?
[19:20] <sadmac2> joshk: on a line of its own. no comment
[19:20] <joshk> oh
[19:20] <joshk> to the *job*.. huh.
[19:20] <joshk> okay, and that'll kill the splash screen and display the output?
[19:21] <sadmac2> joshk: it won't kill the splash screen unless the splash screen is designed to die when input is requested or strange output occurs.
[19:22] <joshk> hmmm.. ok then. thanks
[19:25] <arekm> sadmac2: ok, builds now but fails at
[19:25] <arekm> BAD: wrong value for dbus_message_get_reply_serial (reply), expected 2 got 3                                                                                  at tests/test_dbus_message.c:155 (test_message_error).
[19:25] <arekm> test
[19:29] <Keybuk> arekm: odd, the test suite is not _always_ perfect
[19:29] <Keybuk> though that implies something a little strange
[19:32] <arekm> also UPSTART_INIT_DAEMON isn't defined in sources so build fails (0.5 bzr branch)
[19:35] <Keybuk> arekm: *cough* fixed and push
[19:53] <Keybuk> sadmac2: don't suppose you put the debug symbols from your upstart builds anywhere?
[19:53] <sadmac2> Keybuk: upstart-debuginfo-<versioncrap>.arch.rpm
[19:54] <Keybuk> do you have older versions around?
[19:54] <sadmac2> Keybuk: how old do you need?
[19:54] <Keybuk> upstart-0.3.9-22.fc11.3586.rpm
[19:54] <Keybuk> plus debuginfo
[19:54] <Keybuk> i386.rpm
[19:54] <Keybuk> sorry
[19:55] <sadmac2> should be i586
[19:55] <sadmac2> build policy bumped our minimum 32-bit arch
[19:55] <Keybuk> Version-Release number of selected component (if applicable):
[19:55] <Keybuk> upstart-0.3.9-22.fc9.i386
[19:55] <Keybuk> from your BZ :p
[19:56] <sadmac2> Keybuk: koji.fedoraproject.org is our build system. Its purged now and again, but its not terribly aggressive. All the packages are there.
[19:56]  * sadmac2 finds that upstart version
[19:56] <sadmac2> Keybuk: http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=93252
[19:56] <sadmac2> specifically: http://kojipkgs.fedoraproject.org/packages/upstart/0.3.9/22.fc11/i586/upstart-debuginfo-0.3.9-22.fc11.i586.rpm
[19:57] <Keybuk> those are fc11?
[19:57] <Keybuk> not f9?
[19:57] <sadmac2> oh, f9. missed your update
[19:57] <sadmac2> we have that one too
[19:57] <sadmac2> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/buildinfo?buildID=80006
[19:58] <sadmac2> And if you need more:
[19:58] <sadmac2> http://koji.fedoraproject.org/koji/packageinfo?packageID=5768
[19:58] <sadmac2> Keybuk: what are you inspecting?
[19:59] <Keybuk> BZ #506679
[20:01] <sadmac2> ah.
[20:02] <sadmac2> wow. this guy filed an f9 bug a week before EOL
[20:02] <sadmac2> impressive
[20:05] <Keybuk> hmm
[20:05] <Keybuk> still doesn't seem to match
[20:06] <Keybuk> I can't apply his core files to your bianries
[20:06] <sadmac2> notting: ^^prelink??
[20:08] <notting> sadmac2: shouldn't affect corefiles, iirc
[20:09] <Keybuk> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/upstart/+bug/388873
[20:09] <Keybuk> core files are attached there
[20:09] <Keybuk> if you run gdb on them, do you get better results?
[20:11] <sadmac2> I don't have an F9 box handy
[20:11]  * sadmac2 should probably be doing something about this IOMMU thing he's working on