[00:03] Shiandar: I dont think so, what card is that? Intel? Nvidia? [00:15] wow, my sound card is crashed [00:16] !pulseaudio [00:16] PulseAudio is a sound server intended as a drop-in replacement for !ESD - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/PulseAudio for information and installation instructions [00:16] !sound [00:16] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:25] !sound [00:25] If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3 [00:31] anom01y: you can also /msg the bot [00:33] Im having troubles with my sound card, It is a via vt1708/a [00:35] nothing plays although the sound is at a max. [00:41] how are you testing it? [00:42] TheSheep, sorry its a 82xx [00:43] via82xx [00:43] I am testing using different players [00:43] its funny bewcause it was working 3 days ago [00:45] http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=da9cba069eb8ad6e8cb9ea93bbcea0c2346fc8d2 [00:47] can you open a terminal, run 'alsamixer' and make sure everything is unmuted? [00:49] TheSheep, there are only two volume controls in alsamixergui [00:49] and it says card: pulseaudio [00:49] chip: pulseaudio [00:50] you also have ubuntu? [00:50] xubuntu 9.04 [00:51] should I have gnome services turned on ? [00:51] xubuntu normally comes without pulseaudio [00:51] hmm [00:52] I wonder how I got pulseaudio installed thats probably my problem right there [00:52] you can try removing it [00:52] should I uninstall pulseaudio [00:52] ok [00:53] done [00:55] TheSheep, [00:55] I tried sudo alsa reload and that didnt work [00:56] should I reset the computer ? alsamixergui won't even open anymore .. [01:00] anom01y: I suppose so [01:00] alsa is such a pain [01:01] eahh well thanks for your help I will be right back [03:08] are there any guides for upgrading to Xubuntu from Kubuntu? [03:11] install the xubuntu-desktop [03:15] cool - thanks! [04:00] I just finished installing and for some reason it says it is read only, anybody know how to fix? [04:01] My Ubuntu drive is read only if that was unclear [04:03] SML1226, as user? [04:04] I just installed it and when I tried to make a text file it said read only filesystem [04:06] ok, where did you try to make the text file [04:06] Documents [04:07] *name*/Documents/ folder [04:07] open a term and type ls -l and paste the information about that folder [04:08] L or i? [04:08] lower case L [04:11] Stupid firefox won't open, hang on [04:11] firefox? [04:11] why you opening firefox? [04:12] what i was wondering [04:12] pastebin [04:12] it should be only one line [04:12] paste it here [04:12] total 32 [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 21:53 Desktop [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Documents [04:12] -rw-r--r-- 1 sml1226 sml1226 357 2009-06-17 21:00 examples.desktop [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Music [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Pictures [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Public [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Templates [04:12] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Videos [04:12] not 1 line! [04:12] documents was the only one needed [04:13] drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Documents [04:13] ahhh that explaunsut [04:13] stupid laptop keys!! [04:13] SML1226, still have a term open? [04:14] yep [04:14] cd Documents [04:14] touch test [04:15] any error? [04:15] froze before I could test! nothing is working now Going to restart and try again. [04:15] brb [04:15] oh boy [04:15] Raggs wouldn't a chmod 777 work here on the home dir? [04:16] don't want to make this to complex for the guy [04:17] maduser, i am not sure that is his problem, his permisions are the same as mine [04:17] and i can write to my documents [04:18] ah just checked mine same here [04:18] so the issue is not making a text document, it is something simpler that we just havent figured out [04:19] test if he can do it in root? [04:19] not yet, need to find out how he tried to make the text file [04:19] k [04:20] sometimes the easiest fix just covers up a real problem [04:21] yeah [04:22] however if it is an xubuntu issue i will be at a disadvantage [04:22] how so? [04:22] I'm not running it [04:23] i usually run Debian [04:23] lol I'm doing the same except i'm doing that in the puppy Linux [04:23] at least debain and ubuntu are similar [04:24] yes, and no, they are similar but Debian is a little better in the cli [04:24] OR i am just more used to using Debian [04:25] wait i've used linuxes across the board and made my own with lfs and never saw a cli difference except in the apps [04:25] or wait, dosn't ubuntu use a custom kernel? [04:26] maduser, it is the reliance on them, ubuntus are more set up so they dont have to be used much [04:26] thats it [04:26] but when they do, oh boy [04:27] when they do they come here and ask help [04:27] yeah [04:28] but that is ok, and i usually have patience for this [04:29] please do n't tell m=people to set their homes to 777 [04:29] sorry for typos [04:30] TheSheep, np [04:30] I rember this poor dude in #kubuntu that completely messed up his computer because he didn't know what he was doing [04:30] maduser, not all people should run linux [04:30] most should, but not all [04:30] sorry I got used to telling people that because they had no clue what to do and where complaining for a fix [04:30] nonsense, just not all of them should have root access :) [04:31] lol [04:31] TheSheep, there ya go [04:31] i always run as root [04:31] Raggs: coming from dos, eh? [04:31] in ubuntu aren't you root jr if you don't specify otherwise? [04:32] the first user gets sudo access [04:32] you still need to type the password, which is nice when running scripts that try to do things as root behind your back [04:33] that concept could be exploited by a linux virus [04:34] 'hi, I'm a linux virus, type your password to let me spread' [04:34] hey the same people that come in here for comandline help.......... [04:35] should have told him to sudo rm -rf / [04:35] I did once in in a channel and got banned cause they guy was pissing me off [04:36] I learned since not to do that [04:36] Raggs: it's not worth it, it is a community after all, you'd have hard time looking for help for yourself [04:36] TheSheep, was joking [04:36] anyway google provides most of these answers even if you didn't come here [04:37] plus, if you want linux to grow and become better, give people real, long-term solutions [04:37] TheSheep I believe i was [04:37] maduser: the problem is you have to know where to look and what to look for, starting with knowing the right words [04:38] Raggs: I'm not refering to your help in particular, I didn't pay attention [04:38] Raggs: just generally speaking [04:38] have you read "in the beginning was the command line" by Neal Stephenson? :) [04:38] i have not [04:39] where is the dude with the problem? [04:39] I guess he's reinstalling hoping it will fix things... [04:40] the funniest helping moments come when people have X problems [04:40] there like what theres a comandline under the GUI? [04:41] and they go waste their time reinstalling [04:41] it didn't break for itself, it won't fix itself [04:42] the fixes in ubuntu compared to others are simple in comparison [04:42] how so? [04:42] i was lucky to be forced to learn cli before doing things with a gui [04:43] sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg [04:43] a perfectly good graphical editor and the guy who taught me always had me do things in vi [04:44] what's wrong with vi? [04:44] it's a perfectly good editor, and has a graphical version too [04:44] lol, nothing, but there are easier ways [04:44] you have to tell me one day, I don't know anything faster and easier [04:45] gedit is easier coming from windows [04:45] or kedit [04:46] ew, I'd have to manually position the cursor character-by-character [04:47] Howdo I update 8.04 LTSto 9.04? [04:47] !upgrade [04:47] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [04:47] wb sml1226 [04:47] sml1226, did ya get it figured out? [04:49] Yeah thanks [04:49] Gotit now [04:49] ok, glad to hear it [04:49] what was the problem? [04:49] what was it? [04:51] later folks, look forward to chatting again [04:51] Needed to know how to get to 9.04 from 8.04 LTS [04:51] That wasthe problem [04:51] what about the text file problem? [04:51] I hate this keyboard [04:51] Stupid spacebar [04:53] I think he's not the same sml [04:54] ip's match [04:55] Same one [04:56] how did you fix your read only problem? [04:56] Stupid DVD had errors. Used 8.04 CD [04:56] Thats why needed to know how to gwt 9.04on here [04:57] get* [04:57] sml1226: you've seen that web page? [04:57] Yeah it helped, updating before the upgrade to 8.10 :( [04:57] Need 2 updates [04:58] yeah, you can update directly only between LTS-es [04:58] 8.10 and 9.04 [04:58] Doyou know how to remove a distro altogether? [04:59] I addedKubuntu and want to remove it. [04:59] oh I do [04:59] rm........... [04:59] Removes all apps and ui? [04:59] TheSheep :) [05:00] no the easiest way i can think of it to format the partition [05:00] or just delete all the files in the partition [05:00] and remove kubuntu form grub [05:00] from [05:01] did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop not separate partitions [05:01] both on same one [05:01] oh you used that command [05:01] I thought you got the cd [05:02] don't want the apps wasting space [05:02] you have to specfiy that [05:02] oops :o [05:02] apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop [05:02] doesn't remove the apps [05:04] sudo apt-get remove akregator amarok amarok-common apport-qt ark cdrdao dolphin dontzap dragonplayer exiv2 foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gtk2-engines-qtcurve gwenview hpijs-ppds ijsgutenprint install-package jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaddressbook kamera kate kde-icons-oxygen kde-printer-applet kde-style-qtcurve kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-plasma kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-dat [05:04] a kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdebluetooth kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kresources kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs-data kdepimlibs5 kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-data kdesudo kdm kfind khelpcenter4 klipper kmag kmail kmix kmousetool knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplug [05:04] ins konqueror-plugin-searchbar konsole kontact kopete korganizer kpackagekit krdc krfb ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktimetracker ktorrent ktorrent-data kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuser kvkbd kwalletmanager language-selector-qt libakonadiprivate1 libao2 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libboost-program-options1.35.0 libclucene0ldbl libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libeet1 libexiv2-5 libfl [05:04] ac++6 libgeoip1 libk3b3 libk3b3-extracodecs libkcddb4 libkdecorations4 libkdepim4 libkexiv2-7 libkholidays4 libkipi6 libkleo4 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libkpgp4 libksieve4 libkwineffects1 libloudmouth1-0 liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmimelib4 libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmsn0.1 libmysqlclient15off libokularcore1 libpackagekit-glib11 libpackagekit-qt11 libphonon4 libplasma3 libpoppler-qt4-3 libpq5 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqedje0 libqimageblitz4 l [05:04] ibqt3-mt libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-w [05:05] wow couldn't use pastebin? [05:05] sorry about that I though the list was smaller [05:05] http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome [05:05] yeah a lot there [05:05] do to that link it has the remove command for it [05:06] great thanks a lot [05:06] Probably going to use Ubuntu [05:06] Remove both of those [05:07] listed on the site [05:08] 197 of 224 on update :( [06:36] flood, ban her [07:47] how to install xorg development package [07:51] om26er: hi [07:51] sudo apt-get install xorg-dev [07:51] I think that is what you need [09:44] Hello! [09:44] hi [09:53] Does anyone know the name Ubuntu uses for the madwifi driver package? [10:11] Rosse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75451 [10:11] Rosse: I googled for "madwifi ubuntu" [10:12] Rosse: hope that helps [10:13] thank you :3 [10:13] although this seems to date from before it was included in the distro [10:17] Rosse: actually, System -> Hardware Drivers might do this for you [10:17] Rosse: ath_pci still seems to be in the current version of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-11-generic [10:17] Rosse: I checked on packages.ubuntu.com [10:18] gabkdlly: Thank you. I'm using madwifi now. The problem is that other user accounts don't seem to be using it. [10:19] Rosse: wierd [10:20] gabkdlly: at least I think that's the problem. Other accounts randomly disconnect from the network like when I was using ath5k [10:21] check by logging in as the offending user, and running lsmod [10:21] it would surprise me if kernel modules were loaded differently for different users [11:01] !panels [11:01] Did your panels disappear? Press alt+f2 and run: xfce4-panel | See also: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/XubuntuPanels | Want to theme your panels? See http://xubuntu.wordpress.com/2007/10/12/howto-set-a-background-image-for-your-panel/ [11:01] Can i restart the panels? [11:04] I think "killall xfce4-panel" should work [11:05] followed by alt+f2 ... [11:06] Were you talking to me, gabkdlly ? [11:14] Slonkie: yes [11:14] sorry i rebooted [11:15] i found a way tho :) anyway thanks [11:39] buenos dias [11:40] me he quedado sin enye , tengo desconfigurado el teclado y no consigo configurarlo, alguien sabe como hacerlo [11:41] !es [11:41] En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [11:42] sorry [11:42] This is a english channel, jenesis :). [11:42] I thought it was another server [11:44] I need to reconfigure my keyboard language. [11:45] Settings -> Keyboard -> Layout [11:45] it doent work [11:47] thanks, anyway. :) [12:19] Can anyone help me with making a launcher run a command in a terminal? [12:25] mib_on9qfz: make a .sh file [12:25] put your commands inside it [12:25] chmod +x it [12:26] and call it from the launcher [12:27] Sidi: Thanks for the response. It that the only way it will work with xfce4? [12:28] the launchers use the "exec" command [12:28] so they need to execute an executable file [12:28] be it a shell script or a binary [12:29] SiDi: here is my example I want to run /tmp/foo.sh and if I make a launcher and put that as the command it will not work. [12:29] SiDi: it will only cause the terminal to freeze up. No prompt or anything. [12:31] it works fine here [12:31] show me your .sh file please [12:31] SiDi: /tmp/foo.sh = echo foo I know the script works [12:31] and make sure it's chmod+x'd [12:31] it is [12:31] do you execute it in a terminal ? [12:31] SiDi: it runs fine from a terminal that I open up but just not as a launcher. [12:31] also, add a sleep 1 so you have the time to _see_ it :D [12:32] Put it as a launcher and in the launcher options make sure to check the 'Run in terminal' box [12:32] SiDI: I have done all that to no avail. [12:33] SIDI: The terminal launches and then it is frozen with the prompt (just a green square) in the upper left hand corner. [12:34] SiDi: the script never gets ran. and the terminal is useless. The only way to close it is file, exit [12:34] it works fine here :/ [12:34] that happens when an "echo hi" script ? [12:44] SiDi: Ok I got it to work. [12:45] SiDi: When I run the script /tmp.foo.sh is there a way to get the terminal to stay open ? [12:46] SiDi: If I add sleep it does just that and then exits, and the terminal can't be used for other commands. [12:49] you still can add xfce4-terminal at the end if you need a prompt when its finished [12:49] i dont know any more elegant way [14:16] moring all [14:23] quite morning === genii_ is now known as genii [15:19] hello [15:19] anyone here [15:20] hi [15:20] i need help, someone please? [15:20] thank you [15:20] You shouldn't bother to ask if you can get help, you know ;) [15:20] i installed a driver for my ati x1300, and now i get the "white screen of death" if it wheren't for the live cd, i'd be toast. [15:20] Just ask a question and wait for someone to read it ;) [15:21] Where did you get this driver ? [15:21] um, good question. ubuntu literally offered it to me, a little green cicuit board on the top of gnome's deskbat [15:21] *bar [15:23] from what research i did, i think it was the fglrx driver, and i think the problem is that i had the graphics options all the way up for the gui. but i cant find a solution on the net, or i didnt use the right search terms... [15:26] Okey [15:26] then if its the ubuntu ones there indeed is a problem [15:26] you should boot in recovery mode and reset your xorg settings from there [15:26] yes, i think i found the solution [15:27] i have to go to command prompt and use dpkg to remove that driver (using su ofcoarse.) [15:27] ok [15:27] how do i do that, because grub goes straight into normal boot, this version of ubuntu doesnt even ask me what linux vore i want to boot to [15:27] *core [15:31] my grub doesnt offer a recovery mode option... and i didn't mess with grub, is this a new setting? === SiDi is now known as IHateGimp === IHateGimp is now known as SiDi [19:22] hi there is a installation via usb stick possible? [19:28] Yeh [19:28] follow the same procedure as for Ubuntu, but with a Xubuntu iso [19:28] !liveusb [19:28] Sorry, I don't know anything about liveusb [19:28] !unetbootin [19:28] For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent [19:28] !usb [19:41] k done that nothing happens, knoppix via usb is booting fine [19:42] going to search my failure [20:03] no chance "This is not a bootable disk. Please insert a bootable floppy an press any key to try again" displayed by the stick [20:06] Any ideas: BIOS says I have 3G RAM installed, but Ubuntu only sees 2.5G! [20:07] Araneidae: what does lshw say ? [20:07] And what does a memtest say ? [20:08] Don't know lshw... just about to try it [20:08] the output 'll be big [20:08] usually RAM is on the beginning [20:08] for the memtest you have a boot option for it in grub [20:08] Wow: says a lot! [20:09] Ok, sees four banks: 0.5G, 1G, 0.5G, 1G as expected [20:09] I think memtest also only saw 2.5G, but found it a bit hard to interpret [20:10] hm [20:10] so you have 4 sticks ? [20:11] Here's what lshw has to say: http://pastebin.com/d21da60b2 [20:11] Yes. [20:12] thats an old machine, right ? [20:12] its at 333MHz Oo [20:12] Fairly old... [20:12] Didn't think it was all that ancient, but evidently it is! [20:12] The motherboard was a cast-off from a friend, so must be fairly old. [20:12] It's still got some old PCI slots, as well as a PCIEx16 [20:13] thats not SO old then :) [20:13] didn't think so [20:13] where does it say you have 2.5GB btw ? [20:13] in the system monitor ? [20:13] Top, for example [20:14] Show me a screenshot please [20:14] /proc/meminfo says: MemTotal: 2579544 kB [20:14] Okey [20:14] /proc/meminfo: http://pastebin.com/d102d09c5 [20:15] im likely to be wrong but one reason could be that the 4 sticks of RAM are low-end, and not exactly 500MB and 1GB sticks [20:15] How do you mean, not exactly? [20:15] well, my 2 GB stick is actually a 2.05GB stick in my server [20:16] while this laptop has two 2GB sticks that actually are 1.9GB [20:16] Hmm. But lshw reports GiB and MiB pedantically [20:16] Think they really do fill up the address space; never heard of memory that doesn't! [20:16] lshw reads the constructor info [20:17] oh i said i may be wrong btw, heh :P [20:17] heh [20:17] but the only other cause i'd see is that the kernel doesnt manage to use 4 sticks at a time [20:17] but i'd find it odd [20:17] even if im not sure old windows boxes were able to [20:17] Ah well. Guess my next step is to check the motherboard manual, make sure I've put things in correctly... maybe it likes banks to be filled differently. [20:17] Odd though. [20:18] It's an ASUS A8N-E mb. [20:18] anyways its not like you're losing A LOT of ram :) [20:18] No, that's true. I can live with it, but going to investigate a bit more. [20:18] but maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-kernel or in #kernel directly [20:18] Thanks for pointing me to lshw! [20:19] Cheers. Got to go now [20:20] have a nice evening then ;) [20:26] Finally got everything set up and I'm loving Compiz now :D [20:28] How do I see that I'm running 64bit version? [20:30] uname -a [20:31] or to be exact [20:31] K thanks couldn't remember how to see [20:31] uname -m [20:31] np ^^ [20:32] Know why I can't change icon for firefox in AWN? [20:35] Anybody use compiz? [21:14] Opera is really starting to suck [21:14] it's OK w/o flash/javascript/plugins/java running. But what good is a browser without those? [21:37] Hi. I have a fresh install of xubuntu jaunty and i can't find OOo in the repos and it's not installed [21:37] there is an openoffice.org-dtd-officedocument10 but this appears to be legacy [21:43] !repos [21:43] The packages in Ubuntu are divided into several sections. More information at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Repositories and http://www.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/components - See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/RecommendedSources for the recommended way to set up your repositories [21:44] Thank you. I know what the repos are and where they are. However, I am stating that OOo is not available. [21:50] Naisenu: you are mistaken [21:50] Unfortunately I am not [21:51] Unless you would like to come here and look at my repos [21:51] !info openoffice.org-writer [21:51] openoffice.org-writer (source: openoffice.org): full-featured office productivity suite -- word processor. In component main, is optional. Version 1:3.0.1-9ubuntu3 (jaunty), package size 5475 kB, installed size 21220 kB [21:52] I have looked through that section multiple times. Every section is checked practically under repositories. It is not there. [21:52] ok, so me, ubottu and all other users just hallucinate that it is there [21:53] Or mine is broken [21:54] did you click on 'update'? [21:55] Either way, you can't argue against what I can see on my computer. I am not calling you or your bot a liar, just telling you that what you claim should be there does not exist on my computer. And yes, "Reload" has been pressed at least 3 times. [21:58] if the addresses of repositories you have really match those on that web page, and they are updated, and you still don't have a 'openoffice.org-writer' package and friends, then I am out of ideas. Are you sure this is xubuntu? [21:59] Don't patronize me. I am fully sure this is xubuntu jaunty i386 normal distro [22:00]