[00:03] <TheSheep> Shiandar: I dont think so, what card is that? Intel? Nvidia?
[00:15] <anom01y> wow, my sound card is crashed
[00:16] <anom01y> !pulseaudio
[00:16] <anom01y> !sound
[00:25] <anom01y> !sound
[00:31] <TheSheep> anom01y: you can also /msg the bot
[00:33] <anom01y> Im having troubles with my sound card, It is a via vt1708/a
[00:35] <anom01y> nothing plays although the sound is at a max.
[00:41] <TheSheep> how are you testing it?
[00:42] <anom01y> TheSheep, sorry its a 82xx
[00:43] <anom01y> via82xx
[00:43] <anom01y> I am testing using different players
[00:43] <anom01y> its funny bewcause it was working 3 days ago
[00:45] <anom01y> http://www.alsa-project.org/db/?f=da9cba069eb8ad6e8cb9ea93bbcea0c2346fc8d2
[00:47] <TheSheep> can you open a terminal, run 'alsamixer' and make sure everything is unmuted?
[00:49] <anom01y> TheSheep, there are only two volume controls in alsamixergui
[00:49] <anom01y> and it says card: pulseaudio
[00:49] <anom01y> chip: pulseaudio
[00:50] <TheSheep> you also have ubuntu?
[00:50] <anom01y> xubuntu 9.04
[00:51] <anom01y> should I have gnome services turned on ?
[00:51] <TheSheep> xubuntu normally comes without pulseaudio
[00:51] <anom01y> hmm
[00:52] <anom01y> I wonder how I got pulseaudio installed thats probably my problem right there
[00:52] <TheSheep> you can try removing it
[00:52] <anom01y> should I uninstall pulseaudio
[00:52] <anom01y> ok
[00:53] <anom01y> done
[00:55] <anom01y> TheSheep,
[00:55] <anom01y> I tried sudo alsa reload and that didnt work
[00:56] <anom01y> should I reset the computer ? alsamixergui won't even open anymore ..
[01:00] <TheSheep> anom01y: I suppose so
[01:00] <anom01y> alsa is such a pain
[01:01] <anom01y> eahh well thanks for your help I will be right back
[03:08] <mdshaw89> are there any guides for upgrading to Xubuntu from Kubuntu?
[03:11] <Raggs> install the xubuntu-desktop
[03:15] <mdshaw89> cool - thanks!
[04:00] <SML1226> I just finished installing and for some reason it says it is read only, anybody know how to fix?
[04:01] <SML1226> My Ubuntu drive is read only if that was unclear
[04:03] <Raggs> SML1226, as user?
[04:04] <SML1226> I just installed it and when I tried to make a text file it said read only filesystem
[04:06] <Raggs> ok, where did you try to make the text file
[04:06] <SML1226> Documents
[04:07] <SML1226> *name*/Documents/    folder
[04:07] <Raggs> open a term and type ls -l and paste the information about that folder
[04:08] <SML1226> L or i?
[04:08] <Raggs> lower case L
[04:11] <SML1226> Stupid firefox won't open, hang on
[04:11] <Raggs> firefox?
[04:11] <maduser> why you opening firefox?
[04:12] <Raggs> what i was wondering
[04:12] <SML1226> pastebin
[04:12] <Raggs> it should be only one line
[04:12] <Raggs> paste it here
[04:12] <SML1226> total 32
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 21:53 Desktop
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Documents
[04:12] <SML1226> -rw-r--r-- 1 sml1226 sml1226  357 2009-06-17 21:00 examples.desktop
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Music
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Pictures
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Public
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Templates
[04:12] <SML1226> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Videos
[04:12] <SML1226> not 1 line!
[04:12] <maduser> documents was the only one needed
[04:13] <Raggs> drwxr-xr-x 2 sml1226 sml1226 4096 2009-06-17 16:27 Documents
[04:13] <SML1226> ahhh that explaunsut
[04:13] <SML1226> stupid laptop keys!!
[04:13] <Raggs> SML1226, still have a term open?
[04:14] <SML1226> yep
[04:14] <Raggs> cd Documents
[04:14] <Raggs> touch test
[04:15] <Raggs> any error?
[04:15] <SML1226> froze before I could test! nothing is working now Going to restart and try again.
[04:15] <SML1226> brb
[04:15] <Raggs> oh boy
[04:15] <maduser> Raggs wouldn't a chmod 777 work here on the home dir?
[04:16] <maduser> don't want to make this to complex for the guy
[04:17] <Raggs> maduser, i am not sure that is his problem, his permisions are the same as mine
[04:17] <Raggs> and i can write to my documents
[04:18] <maduser> ah just checked mine same here
[04:18] <Raggs> so the issue is not making a text document, it is something simpler that we just havent figured out
[04:19] <maduser> test if he can do it in root?
[04:19] <Raggs> not yet, need to find out how he tried to make the text file
[04:19] <maduser> k
[04:20] <Raggs> sometimes the easiest fix just covers up a real problem
[04:21] <maduser> yeah
[04:22] <Raggs> however if it is an xubuntu issue i will be at a disadvantage
[04:22] <maduser> how so?
[04:22] <Raggs> I'm not running it
[04:23] <Raggs> i usually run Debian
[04:23] <maduser> lol I'm doing the same except i'm doing that in the puppy Linux
[04:23] <maduser> at least debain and ubuntu are similar
[04:24] <Raggs> yes, and no, they are similar but Debian is a little better in the cli
[04:24] <Raggs> OR i am just more used to using Debian
[04:25] <maduser> wait i've used linuxes across the board and made my own with lfs and never saw a cli difference except in the apps
[04:25] <maduser> or wait, dosn't ubuntu use a custom kernel?
[04:26] <Raggs> maduser, it is the reliance on them, ubuntus are more set up so they dont have to be used much
[04:26] <maduser> thats it
[04:26] <maduser> but when they do, oh boy
[04:27] <Raggs> when they do they come here and ask help
[04:27] <maduser> yeah
[04:28] <Raggs> but that is ok, and i usually have patience for this
[04:29] <TheSheep> please do n't tell m=people to set their homes to 777
[04:29] <TheSheep> sorry for typos
[04:30] <Raggs> TheSheep, np
[04:30] <maduser> I rember this poor dude in #kubuntu that completely messed up his computer because he didn't know what he was doing
[04:30] <Raggs> maduser, not all people should run linux
[04:30] <Raggs> most should, but not all
[04:30] <maduser> sorry I got used to telling people that because they had no clue what to do and where complaining for a fix
[04:30] <TheSheep> nonsense, just not all of them should have root access :)
[04:31] <maduser> lol
[04:31] <Raggs> TheSheep, there ya go
[04:31] <Raggs> i always run as root
[04:31] <TheSheep> Raggs: coming from dos, eh?
[04:31] <maduser> in ubuntu aren't you root jr if you don't specify otherwise?
[04:32] <TheSheep> the first user gets sudo access
[04:32] <TheSheep> you still need to type the password, which is nice when running scripts that try to do things as root behind your back
[04:33] <maduser> that concept could be exploited by a linux virus
[04:34] <TheSheep> 'hi, I'm a linux virus, type your password to let me spread'
[04:34] <maduser> hey the same people that come in here for comandline help..........
[04:35] <Raggs> should have told him to sudo rm -rf /
[04:35] <maduser> I did once in in a channel and got banned cause they guy was pissing me off
[04:36] <maduser> I learned since not to do that
[04:36] <TheSheep> Raggs: it's not worth it, it is a community after all, you'd have hard time looking for help for yourself
[04:36] <Raggs> TheSheep, was joking
[04:36] <maduser> anyway google provides most of these answers even if you didn't come here
[04:37] <TheSheep> plus, if you want linux to grow and become better, give people real, long-term solutions
[04:37] <Raggs> TheSheep I believe i was
[04:37] <TheSheep> maduser: the problem is you have to know where to look and what to look for, starting with knowing the right words
[04:38] <TheSheep> Raggs: I'm not refering to your help in particular, I didn't pay attention
[04:38] <TheSheep> Raggs: just generally speaking
[04:38] <TheSheep> have you read "in the beginning was the command line" by Neal Stephenson? :)
[04:38] <Raggs> i have not
[04:39] <maduser> where is the dude with the problem?
[04:39] <TheSheep> I guess he's reinstalling hoping it will fix things...
[04:40] <maduser> the funniest helping moments come when people have X problems
[04:40] <maduser> there like what theres a comandline under the GUI?
[04:41] <maduser> and they go waste their time reinstalling
[04:41] <TheSheep> it didn't break for itself, it won't fix itself
[04:42] <maduser> the fixes in ubuntu compared to others are simple in comparison
[04:42] <TheSheep> how so?
[04:42] <Raggs> i was lucky to be forced to learn cli before doing things with a gui
[04:43] <maduser> sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[04:43] <Raggs> a perfectly good graphical editor and the guy who taught me always had me do things in vi
[04:44] <TheSheep> what's wrong with vi?
[04:44] <TheSheep> it's a perfectly good editor, and has a graphical version too
[04:44] <Raggs> lol, nothing, but there are easier ways
[04:44] <TheSheep> you have to tell me one day, I don't know anything faster and easier
[04:45] <Raggs> gedit is easier coming from windows
[04:45] <Raggs> or kedit
[04:46] <TheSheep> ew, I'd have to manually position the cursor character-by-character
[04:47] <sml1226> Howdo I update 8.04 LTSto 9.04?
[04:47] <TheSheep> !upgrade
[04:47] <Raggs> wb sml1226
[04:47] <Raggs> sml1226, did ya get it figured out?
[04:49] <sml1226> Yeah thanks
[04:49] <sml1226> Gotit now
[04:49] <Raggs> ok, glad to hear it
[04:49] <maduser> what was the problem?
[04:49] <TheSheep> what was it?
[04:51] <Raggs> later folks, look forward to chatting again
[04:51] <sml1226> Needed to know how to get to 9.04 from 8.04 LTS
[04:51] <sml1226> That wasthe problem
[04:51] <Raggs> what about the text file problem?
[04:51] <sml1226> I hate this keyboard
[04:51] <sml1226> Stupid spacebar
[04:53] <TheSheep> I think he's not the same sml
[04:54] <maduser> ip's match
[04:55] <sml1226> Same one
[04:56] <maduser> how did you fix your read only problem?
[04:56] <sml1226> Stupid DVD had errors. Used 8.04 CD
[04:56] <sml1226> Thats why needed to know how to gwt 9.04on here
[04:57] <sml1226> get*
[04:57] <TheSheep> sml1226: you've seen that web page?
[04:57] <sml1226> Yeah it helped, updating before the upgrade to 8.10 :(
[04:57] <sml1226> Need 2 updates
[04:58] <TheSheep> yeah, you can update directly only between LTS-es
[04:58] <sml1226> 8.10 and 9.04
[04:58] <sml1226> Doyou know how to remove a distro altogether?
[04:59] <sml1226> I addedKubuntu and want to remove it.
[04:59] <maduser> oh I do
[04:59] <maduser> rm...........
[04:59] <sml1226> Removes all apps and ui?
[04:59] <maduser> TheSheep :)
[05:00] <maduser> no the easiest way i can think of it to format the partition
[05:00] <maduser> or just delete all the files in the partition
[05:00] <maduser> and remove kubuntu form grub
[05:00] <maduser> from
[05:01] <sml1226> did apt-get install kubuntu-desktop not separate partitions
[05:01] <sml1226> both on same one
[05:01] <maduser> oh you used that command
[05:01] <maduser> I thought you got the cd
[05:02] <sml1226> don't want the apps wasting space
[05:02] <maduser> you have to specfiy that
[05:02] <sml1226> oops :o
[05:02] <maduser> apt-get remove kubuntu-desktop
[05:02] <sml1226> doesn't remove the apps
[05:04] <maduser> sudo apt-get remove akregator amarok amarok-common apport-qt ark cdrdao dolphin dontzap dragonplayer exiv2 foomatic-db-gutenprint gdebi-kde gnupg-agent gtk2-engines-qtcurve gwenview hpijs-ppds ijsgutenprint install-package jockey-kde k3b k3b-data kaddressbook kamera kate kde-icons-oxygen kde-printer-applet kde-style-qtcurve kde-window-manager kde-zeroconf kdebase-bin kdebase-data kdebase-plasma kdebase-runtime kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4 kdebase-runtime-dat
[05:04] <maduser> a kdebase-runtime-data-common kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data kdebase-workspace-libs4+5 kdebluetooth kdegraphics-strigi-plugins kdelibs-bin kdelibs-data kdelibs4c2a kdelibs5 kdelibs5-data kdemultimedia-kio-plugins kdepasswd kdepim-kresources kdepim-strigi-plugins kdepim-wizards kdepimlibs-data kdepimlibs5 kdeplasma-addons kdeplasma-addons-data kdesudo kdm kfind khelpcenter4 klipper kmag kmail kmix kmousetool knotes konqueror konqueror-nsplug
[05:04] <maduser> ins konqueror-plugin-searchbar konsole kontact kopete korganizer kpackagekit krdc krfb ksnapshot ksysguard ksysguardd ksystemlog ktimetracker ktorrent ktorrent-data kubuntu-artwork-usplash kubuntu-default-settings kubuntu-desktop kubuntu-docs kubuntu-konqueror-shortcuts kuser kvkbd kwalletmanager language-selector-qt libakonadiprivate1 libao2 libaudio2 libavahi-qt3-1 libboost-program-options1.35.0 libclucene0ldbl libdbus-qt-1-1c2 libeet1 libexiv2-5 libfl
[05:04] <maduser> ac++6 libgeoip1 libk3b3 libk3b3-extracodecs libkcddb4 libkdecorations4 libkdepim4 libkexiv2-7 libkholidays4 libkipi6 libkleo4 libkonq5 libkonq5-templates libkpgp4 libksieve4 libkwineffects1 libloudmouth1-0 liblua50 liblualib50 libmad0 libmimelib4 libmodplug0c2 libmpcdec3 libmsn0.1 libmysqlclient15off libokularcore1 libpackagekit-glib11 libpackagekit-qt11 libphonon4 libplasma3 libpoppler-qt4-3 libpq5 libqca2 libqca2-plugin-ossl libqedje0 libqimageblitz4 l
[05:04] <maduser> ibqt3-mt libqt4-assistant libqt4-core libqt4-dbus libqt4-designer libqt4-help libqt4-network libqt4-opengl libqt4-qt3support libqt4-script libqt4-sql libqt4-sql-mysql libqt4-sql-sqlite libqt4-svg libqt4-test libqt4-w
[05:05] <sml1226> wow couldn't use pastebin?
[05:05] <maduser> sorry about that I though the list was smaller
[05:05] <maduser> http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/puregnome
[05:05] <sml1226> yeah a lot there
[05:05] <maduser> do to that link it has the remove command for it
[05:06] <sml1226> great thanks a lot
[05:06] <sml1226> Probably going to use Ubuntu
[05:06] <sml1226> Remove both of those
[05:07] <sml1226> listed on the site
[05:08] <sml1226> 197 of 224 on update :(
[06:36] <forces> flood, ban her
[07:47] <om26er> how to install xorg development package
[07:51] <gabkdlly> om26er: hi
[07:51] <gabkdlly> sudo apt-get install xorg-dev
[07:51] <gabkdlly> I think that is what you need
[09:44] <Rosse> Hello!
[09:44] <gabkdlly> hi
[09:53] <Rosse> Does anyone know the name Ubuntu uses for the madwifi driver package?
[10:11] <gabkdlly> Rosse: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=75451
[10:11] <gabkdlly> Rosse: I googled for "madwifi ubuntu"
[10:12] <gabkdlly> Rosse: hope that helps
[10:13] <Rosse> thank you :3
[10:13] <Rosse> although this seems to date from before it was included in the distro
[10:17] <gabkdlly> Rosse: actually, System -> Hardware Drivers might do this for you
[10:17] <gabkdlly> Rosse: ath_pci still seems to be in the current version of linux-restricted-modules-2.6.28-11-generic
[10:17] <gabkdlly> Rosse: I checked on packages.ubuntu.com
[10:18] <Rosse> gabkdlly: Thank you. I'm using madwifi now. The problem is that other user accounts don't seem to be using it.
[10:19] <gabkdlly> Rosse: wierd
[10:20] <Rosse> gabkdlly: at least I think that's the problem. Other accounts randomly disconnect from the network like when I was using ath5k
[10:21] <gabkdlly> check by logging in as the offending user, and running lsmod
[10:21] <gabkdlly> it would surprise me if kernel modules were loaded differently for different users
[11:01] <Slonkie> !panels
[11:01] <Slonkie> Can i restart the panels?
[11:04] <gabkdlly> I think "killall xfce4-panel" should work
[11:05] <gabkdlly> followed by alt+f2 ...
[11:06] <Slonkie> Were you talking to me, gabkdlly ?
[11:14] <gabkdlly> Slonkie: yes
[11:14] <Slonkie> sorry i rebooted
[11:15] <Slonkie> i found a way tho :) anyway thanks
[11:39] <jenesis> buenos dias
[11:40] <jenesis> me he quedado sin enye , tengo desconfigurado el teclado y no consigo configurarlo, alguien sabe como hacerlo
[11:41] <Slonkie> !es
[11:42] <jenesis> sorry
[11:42] <Slonkie> This is a english channel, jenesis :).
[11:42] <jenesis> I thought it was another server
[11:44] <jenesis> I need to reconfigure my keyboard language.
[11:45] <Slonkie> Settings -> Keyboard -> Layout
[11:45] <jenesis> it doent work
[11:47] <jenesis> thanks, anyway. :)
[12:19] <mib_on9qfz> Can anyone help me with making a launcher run a command in a terminal?
[12:25] <SiDi> mib_on9qfz: make a .sh file
[12:25] <SiDi> put your commands inside it
[12:25] <SiDi> chmod +x it
[12:26] <SiDi> and call it from the launcher
[12:27] <mib_on9qfz> Sidi: Thanks for the response. It that the only way it will work with xfce4?
[12:28] <SiDi> the launchers use the "exec" command
[12:28] <SiDi> so they need to execute an executable file
[12:28] <SiDi> be it a shell script or a binary
[12:29] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: here is my example I want to run /tmp/foo.sh  and if I make a launcher and put that as the command it will not work.
[12:29] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: it will only cause the terminal to freeze up. No prompt or anything.
[12:31] <SiDi> it works fine here
[12:31] <SiDi> show me your .sh file please
[12:31] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: /tmp/foo.sh =  echo foo  I know the script works
[12:31] <SiDi> and make sure it's chmod+x'd
[12:31] <mib_on9qfz> it is
[12:31] <SiDi> do you execute it in a terminal ?
[12:31] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: it runs fine from a terminal that I open up but just not as a launcher.
[12:31] <SiDi> also, add a sleep 1 so you have the time to _see_ it :D
[12:32] <SiDi> Put it as a launcher and in the launcher options make sure to check the 'Run in terminal' box
[12:32] <mib_on9qfz> SiDI: I have done all that to no avail.
[12:33] <mib_on9qfz> SIDI: The terminal launches and then it is frozen with the prompt (just a green square) in the upper left hand corner.
[12:34] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: the script never gets ran.  and the terminal is useless. The only way to close it is  file, exit
[12:34] <SiDi> it works fine here :/
[12:34] <SiDi> that happens when an "echo hi" script ?
[12:44] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: Ok I got it to work.
[12:45] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: When I run the script /tmp.foo.sh  is there a way to get the terminal to stay open ?
[12:46] <mib_on9qfz> SiDi: If I add sleep it does just that and then exits, and the terminal can't be used for other commands.
[12:49] <SiDi> you still can add xfce4-terminal at the end if you need a prompt when its finished
[12:49] <SiDi> i dont know any more elegant way
[14:16] <erik__> moring all
[14:23] <erik__> quite morning
[15:19] <denn1> hello
[15:19] <denn1> anyone here
[15:20] <SiDi> hi
[15:20] <denn1> i need help, someone please?
[15:20] <denn1> thank you
[15:20] <SiDi> You shouldn't bother to ask if you can get help, you know ;)
[15:20] <denn1> i installed a driver for my ati x1300, and now i get the "white screen of death" if it wheren't for the live cd, i'd be toast.
[15:20] <SiDi> Just ask a question and wait for someone to read it ;)
[15:21] <SiDi> Where did you get this driver ?
[15:21] <denn1> um, good question. ubuntu literally offered it to me, a little green cicuit board on the top of gnome's deskbat
[15:21] <denn1> *bar
[15:23] <denn1> from what research i did, i think it was the fglrx driver, and i think the problem is that i had the graphics options all the way up for the gui. but i cant find a solution on the net, or i didnt use the right search terms...
[15:26] <SiDi> Okey
[15:26] <SiDi> then if its the ubuntu ones there indeed is a problem
[15:26] <SiDi> you should boot in recovery mode and reset your xorg settings from there
[15:26] <denn1> yes, i think i found the solution
[15:27] <denn1> i have to go to command prompt and use dpkg to remove that driver (using su ofcoarse.)
[15:27] <denn1> ok
[15:27] <denn1> how do i do that, because grub goes straight into normal boot, this version of ubuntu doesnt even ask me what linux vore i want to boot to
[15:27] <denn1> *core
[15:31] <denn1> my grub doesnt offer a recovery mode option... and i didn't mess with grub, is this a new setting?
[19:22] <spY|da> hi there is a installation via usb stick possible?
[19:28] <SiDi> Yeh
[19:28] <SiDi> follow the same procedure as for Ubuntu, but with a Xubuntu iso
[19:28] <SiDi> !liveusb
[19:28] <SiDi> !unetbootin
[19:28] <SiDi> !usb
[19:41] <spY|da> k done that nothing happens, knoppix via usb is booting fine
[19:42] <spY|da> going to search my failure
[20:03] <spY|da> no chance "This is not a bootable disk. Please insert a bootable floppy an press any key to try again"  displayed by the stick
[20:06] <Araneidae> Any ideas: BIOS says I have 3G RAM installed, but Ubuntu only sees 2.5G!
[20:07] <SiDi> Araneidae: what does lshw say ?
[20:07] <SiDi> And what does a memtest say ?
[20:08] <Araneidae> Don't know lshw... just about to try it
[20:08] <SiDi> the output 'll be big
[20:08] <SiDi> usually RAM is on the beginning
[20:08] <SiDi> for the memtest you have a boot option for it in grub
[20:08] <Araneidae> Wow: says a lot!
[20:09] <Araneidae> Ok, sees four banks: 0.5G, 1G, 0.5G, 1G as expected
[20:09] <Araneidae> I think memtest also only saw 2.5G, but found it a bit hard to interpret
[20:10] <SiDi> hm
[20:10] <SiDi> so you have 4 sticks ?
[20:11] <Araneidae> Here's what lshw has to say: http://pastebin.com/d21da60b2
[20:11] <Araneidae> Yes.
[20:12] <SiDi> thats an old machine, right ?
[20:12] <SiDi> its at 333MHz Oo
[20:12] <Araneidae> Fairly old...
[20:12] <Araneidae> Didn't think it was all that ancient, but evidently it is!
[20:12] <Araneidae> The motherboard was a cast-off from a friend, so must be fairly old.
[20:12] <Araneidae> It's still got some old PCI slots, as well as a PCIEx16
[20:13] <SiDi> thats not SO old then :)
[20:13] <Araneidae> didn't think so
[20:13] <SiDi> where does it say you have 2.5GB btw ?
[20:13] <SiDi> in the system monitor ?
[20:13] <Araneidae> Top, for example
[20:14] <SiDi> Show me a screenshot please
[20:14] <Araneidae> /proc/meminfo says: MemTotal:        2579544 kB
[20:14] <SiDi> Okey
[20:14] <Araneidae> /proc/meminfo: http://pastebin.com/d102d09c5
[20:15] <SiDi> im likely to be wrong but one reason could be that the 4 sticks of RAM are low-end, and not exactly 500MB and 1GB sticks
[20:15] <Araneidae> How do you mean, not exactly?
[20:15] <SiDi> well, my 2 GB stick is actually a 2.05GB stick in my server
[20:16] <SiDi> while this laptop has two 2GB sticks that actually are 1.9GB
[20:16] <Araneidae> Hmm.  But lshw reports GiB and MiB pedantically
[20:16] <Araneidae> Think they really do fill up the address space; never heard of memory that doesn't!
[20:16] <SiDi> lshw reads the constructor info
[20:17] <SiDi> oh i said i may be wrong btw, heh :P
[20:17] <Araneidae> heh
[20:17] <SiDi> but the only other cause i'd see is that the kernel doesnt manage to use 4 sticks at a time
[20:17] <SiDi> but i'd find it odd
[20:17] <SiDi> even if im not sure old windows boxes were able to
[20:17] <Araneidae> Ah well.  Guess my next step is to check the motherboard manual, make sure I've put things in correctly...  maybe it likes banks to be filled differently.
[20:17] <Araneidae> Odd though.
[20:18] <Araneidae> It's an ASUS A8N-E mb.
[20:18] <SiDi> anyways its not like you're losing A LOT of ram :)
[20:18] <Araneidae> No, that's true.  I can live with it, but going to investigate a bit more.
[20:18] <SiDi> but maybe you should ask in #ubuntu-kernel or in #kernel directly
[20:18] <Araneidae> Thanks for pointing me to lshw!
[20:19] <Araneidae> Cheers.  Got to go now
[20:20] <SiDi> have a nice evening then ;)
[20:26] <sml1226> Finally got everything set up and I'm loving Compiz now :D
[20:28] <sml1226> How do I see that I'm running 64bit version?
[20:30] <ramrod> uname -a
[20:31] <ramrod> or to be exact
[20:31] <sml1226> K thanks couldn't remember how to see
[20:31] <ramrod> uname -m
[20:31] <ramrod> np ^^
[20:32] <sml1226> Know why I can't change icon for firefox in AWN?
[20:35] <sml1226> Anybody use compiz?
[21:14] <ron_o> Opera is really starting to suck
[21:14] <ron_o> it's OK w/o flash/javascript/plugins/java running. But what good is a browser without those?
[21:37] <Naisenu> Hi. I have a fresh install of xubuntu jaunty and i can't find OOo in the repos and it's not installed
[21:37] <Naisenu> there is an openoffice.org-dtd-officedocument10 but this appears to be legacy
[21:43] <TheSheep> !repos
[21:44] <Naisenu> Thank you. I know what the repos are and where they are. However, I am stating that OOo is not available.
[21:50] <TheSheep> Naisenu: you are mistaken
[21:50] <Naisenu> Unfortunately I am not
[21:51] <Naisenu> Unless you would like to come here and look at my repos
[21:51] <TheSheep> !info openoffice.org-writer
[21:52] <Naisenu> I have looked through that section multiple times. Every section is checked practically under repositories. It is not there.
[21:52] <TheSheep> ok, so me, ubottu and all other users just hallucinate that it is there
[21:53] <Naisenu> Or mine is broken
[21:54] <TheSheep> did you click on 'update'?
[21:55] <Naisenu> Either way, you can't argue against what I can see on my computer. I am not calling you or your bot a liar, just telling you that what you claim should be there does not exist on my computer. And yes, "Reload" has been pressed at least 3 times.
[21:58] <TheSheep> if the addresses of repositories you have really match those on that web page, and they are updated, and you still don't have a 'openoffice.org-writer' package and friends, then I am out of ideas. Are you sure this is xubuntu?
[21:59] <Naisenu> Don't patronize me. I am fully sure this is xubuntu jaunty i386 normal distro
[22:00] <TheSheep> maybe someone else can think about what might be wrong
[22:00] <TheSheep> or you can check forums and wiki and google
[22:01] <TheSheep> oh, you can also download and install the packages manually from http://packages.ubuntu.com