[00:00] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: I tried Jaunty on an EeePC, and it had significant graphics issues, appears that Intel card support is broken. Also KPackageKit is completely broken on that system. I've also noticed that Kubuntu is pretty far from being ready to use as a Windows replacement :/
[00:00] <ign0ramus> !intel | CoJaBo-Aztec
[00:01]  * ign0ramus has intel chipset too :(
[00:01] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: I think that the default install is broken for intel if you turn on backports there should be a fixed driver (I hear)
[00:01] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: Not sure what's broken for you with kpackagekit
[00:01] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: I know. Due to the other issues, I decided to stick with Hardy rather than fix the Intel issues :(
[00:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: The Kpackagekit error was "A problem we were not expe".
[00:02] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, i had Hardy too (skipped Intrepid altogether), and loved it.  But now, with some work, my graphics are *almost* as good as on Hardy
[00:03] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: Oh god yeah I hate that :) Yeah trying to smooth that stuff out
[00:04] <CoJaBo-Aztec> On this computer (dell laptop), it works most of the time, all other systems fail with that error almost all of the time.
[00:06] <compilerwriter> is there a good way within kde to find out exactly which card I have serraphyn.  I have forgotten the model?
[00:06] <Xet> Hello please sorry the bother but It doesn't load after the splash screen, just the black background and the mouse wheel
[00:06] <CoJaBo-Aztec> The major improvement on this system was installing "wicd" instead of NetworkManager. NetworkManager is even more broken than KPackageKit o_O
[00:06] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: There is an explanation for that. NEtworkmanager hasn't had a first release yet
[00:06] <DaskreeCH> So it's software that is not even out
[00:07] <ign0ramus> compilerwriter, lspci will tell you.  you should be able to grep for a specific keyword, but i don't know what that would be
[00:07] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: And yet its the default for the final release of Jaunty :/
[00:07] <DaskreeCH> It was put in because Ubuntu is moving to the new NM and the KDE3 version doesn't support it
[00:07] <DaskreeCH> The NM was workable for 80% of the situtations so the SVN was pulled and packaged
[00:08] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: transitation of NM is the culprit for that one  :)
[00:08] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, that's why there's wicd ;)
[00:08] <DaskreeCH> But on the upside a lot of the issues that were found will now be put into the final release which happens before 9.10 so you will have much nicer time going out
[00:08] <DaskreeCH> ign0ramus: Isn't choice grand?
[00:09] <Xet> please I don't know what's happening,  It doesn't load after the splash screen, just the black background and the mouse wheel
[00:09] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: The least they could have done was remove the parts of the GUI that dont work. I expect the "buttons are just painted on" effect to be fixed by the time the software is out of alpha lol
[00:09] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, bless FOSS!
[00:09] <compilerwriter> Thanks ignOramus
[00:09] <ign0ramus> compilerwriter, you got it?
[00:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yeah wicd is excelant, even has scripting support and most impotantly all buttons do something when clicked! lol
[00:10] <mib_b9avnd> i cant hear anything when i use audacity
[00:10] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, i've been using it regularly since Hardy.  First thing i do is get rid of NM :)
[00:10] <mib_b9avnd> wicd is the only thing that worked for me with wpa2
[00:10] <compilerwriter> I will be doing an lspci here shortly thanks for that info.  Got I hope kde slowdown is just because of a bad video driver.
[00:10] <compilerwriter> Kpacakgeit seems to be broken as well.
[00:11] <mjaooo> damn i just installed kubuntu and its way to buggy for me
[00:11] <ign0ramus> compilerwriter, if lspci doesn't show it, 'sudo lshw' certainly will
[00:11] <max_> Can someone please help me change my Locale. I've tried just about everything to change my time to 12hr format and cant do it.
[00:12] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: They work for some people. some people were very happy with it
[00:12] <DaskreeCH> Xet: Look in~/.xsession-errors
[00:12] <Mamarok> max_: system settings -> Region & language -> Tim & Date tab
[00:13] <max_> Mamarok: That was the first thing i tried. Its set to pH. The clock displays 12hr formatting, but everything else that looks to my locale to get formatting uses 24hr.
[00:13] <mib_b9avnd> any thought, audacity wont make any noise when i hit play
[00:13] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: NetworkManager works fine if you only need default settings. Theres just no way to change anything like static IP, DNS, VPN, etc.
[00:13] <Mamarok> max_: maybe restart KDE? some settings only take effect if the apps is restarted
[00:13] <max_> Mamarok: I have.
[00:13] <DaskreeCH> CoJaBo-Aztec: Static IP wsa a known issue
[00:14] <DaskreeCH> So was hidden essid
[00:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> DaskreeCH: AFAIK, it was known in Hardy, still broke in Jaunty lolllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll
[00:14] <Mamarok> max_: then I don't know, sorry :(
[00:14] <DaskreeCH> :-)
[00:14] <Mamarok> CoJaBo-Aztec: beahve!
[00:14] <kaddi> good evening :)
[00:14] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Also it tends to make keys stick...?
[00:15] <Xet> DaskreeCH: Sorry but what? I'm on a live cd how do I go to xsession-errors?
[00:15] <DaskreeCH> Xet: Ah in that case restart the Cd and choose the safe video mode
[00:15] <DaskreeCH> hi kaddi
[00:15] <ign0ramus> mib_b9avnd, this isn't the best place for Audacity support, but did you try changing your sound source within the app?
[00:16] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, kind of an off-the-wall question, but can you get flash videos on The Onion to work?
[00:17] <Xet> DaskreeCH: ok I'll do It thanks
[00:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Anyone know why it would stick keys like that o_O
[00:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Are you using Adobe flash?
[00:17] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yup. not the crippled free version ;)
[00:17] <DaskreeCH> ign0ramus: not sure gotta run :) ask it in a more general fashion along with which browser you are using
[00:18] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, no big deal... have fun!
[00:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Some flash sites dont seem to work in onquror but work in Firefox. Also make sure JS and cookies are enabled o_O
[00:20] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, i've noticed that, but some sites will not play flash videos in Firefox, Konqueror, or Opera.
[00:21]  * ign0ramus can't wait for html5
[00:21] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Some require Internet explorer, or need cookies or javascript enabled :/
[00:22] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, i know i used to be able to watch videos on the Onion web site, but not since Jaunty... 99% of other Flash sites work fine :/
[00:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: There are some Firefox extensions like DownloadHelper to download the video, that tends to work for me when sites dont play lol
[00:24] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yeah, and most videos invariably end up on youtube anyway, which works fine for me ;)
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[00:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Averything ends up on youtube eventually lol
[00:24] <mib_b9avnd> ign0ramus: i did try changing sources
[00:24] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, unfortunately O_o
[00:24] <mib_b9avnd> it was OSS, i set it to ALSA intel which is what muli settings say i have
[00:25] <ign0ramus> mib_b9avnd, and...?
[00:25] <mib_b9avnd> well i had an error before
[00:25] <mib_b9avnd> now it tries to play
[00:25] <kaddi> ign0ramus theonion.com works fine here with firefox 3.0.11 and flashplugin-nonfree 10.0.22
[00:25] <mib_b9avnd> but still no sound
[00:25] <kaddi> so you should be able to get to watch those videos.. I'm not sure how though ;)
[00:25] <ign0ramus> kaddi, must be something in my config, although i am using adobe-flashplugin....
[00:25] <kaddi> ah, that might be the difference then ;)
[00:26] <ign0ramus> mib_b9avnd, check the Audacity forums or their irc channel ... I really don't know much about it
[00:26] <ign0ramus> kaddi, i'll try uninstalling and using your package
[00:26] <mib_b9avnd> is it freenode?
[00:26] <mib_b9avnd> audacity
[00:27] <ign0ramus> mib_b9avnd, i don't know... it's probably listed on their site somewhere
[00:27] <mib_b9avnd> ok thank you
[00:30] <ign0ramus> kaddi, hmm... purged my package, installed flashplugin-nonfree, checked youtube (works fine) checked the Onion (flash player shows up but video never loads)
[00:31] <ign0ramus> kaddi, same thing in Konqueror and Opera
[00:32] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Have any ad blockers?
[00:32] <kaddi> or noscript?
[00:32] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yes, but i've tested them all and have tried firefox in safe mode ... no luck :(
[00:33] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, and Opera and Konqueror are default installs with no added settings, but can play flash, but not from this particular site
[00:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Weird..
[00:33] <kaddi> have you ever installed the alternatives to flash? maybe it's some leftover making proglems?
[00:34] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yeah, it's more of a puzzle for me to solve than it is missing out videos from the Onion... just noticed this was one site that could reproduce ineffectiveness
[00:34] <kaddi> *problems
[00:34] <ign0ramus> kaddi, i've purged all flash-related apps, and now have only 'flashplugin-nonfree' installed
[00:37] <ign0ramus> kaddi, hmmm... can you view any videos on www.wimp.com ?
[00:37] <ign0ramus> kaddi, this is another site that used to work, but now no videos play...
[00:38] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Does it load the flash player just without the video?
[00:38] <kaddi> ign0ramus works fine as well...
[00:39] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec kaddi, weird.  yeah, the player shows up, but the video never loads, and site is "done" loading :/
[00:39] <ign0ramus> i'm checking my flash settings right now
[00:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: What happens if you visit the FLV URL directly: http://www.wimp.com/loadvideo/504785377bc6c341e0f0b411d906b45f/4a3abc38/eee904e96f901bd7afdb3499a55c6566_mirror.flv
[00:40] <kaddi> ign0ramus the following plugins are actually installed on my FF: java, default, demoprint plugin, quicktime, divx, shockwave, vlc & windowsmedio player plugin form totem apparently
[00:40] <kaddi> the last is rather suprising for me.. :p but maybe that's why it is working? ;)
[00:40] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, that prompts to download the .flv file
[00:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Does it show the file type as FLV?
[00:41] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yup
[00:41] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Try saving it and make sure it gives a file larger than 21 bytes?
[00:42] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yeah, that will work, but it doesn't solve the issue
[00:42] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec,  kaddi, i have noticed something though, if i right-click a flash video and go into Flash settings, i can't check the "Enable Hardware Acceleration" button...
[00:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: Does it save properly tho (not cutting off after a few bytes)?
[00:43] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, let me see
[00:43] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, it saves as a 9.9MB .flv file
[00:44] <kaddi> ign0ramus this is checked on my pc.but i can't modify anything in the options, not even close it apparently ... i's buggy :D
[00:44] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Mine does not even open the flash options lol
[00:44] <ign0ramus> kaddi, mine is also checked, but i also can't click anything... (clicking does nothing)
[00:44] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, lol
[00:44] <kaddi> tab works :)
[00:45] <ign0ramus> kaddi, hmmm let me try that
[00:45] <kaddi> but I still can't unselect the hardware acceleration
[00:45] <ign0ramus> kaddi, i can tab to the options, but space doesn't uncheck it
[00:46] <ign0ramus> you guys don't have to worry about it... it's not killing me, but i do like a good puzzle :)
[00:47] <kaddi> are you using compiz?
[00:47] <ign0ramus> kaddi, nope. no effects at all
[00:48] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I can rotate Flash videos on the cube just fine lol
[00:48] <ign0ramus> apparenly you can adjust flash settings here: http://www.macromedia.com/support/documentation/en/flashplayer/help/settings_manager.html but i don't see anything for Hardware Acceleration
[00:51] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ign0ramus: The only one I see that lists hardware acceleration is just an image..
[00:51] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, yep...
[00:52] <kaddi> oh, one more thing, ign0ramus, I don't know if this has anything to do with the problem, but I disabled Ubuntu Firefox Modification add-on
[00:53] <ign0ramus> kaddi, even in Safe Mode which disables all add-ons but allows plugins (like Flash), the sites still don't work
[00:53] <xp-killer> my pc going slow as a turtle what is causing it to go sooo slloooow? help please
[00:54] <ign0ramus> kaddi, CoJaBo-Aztec, do either of you know the difference between 'adobe-flashplugin' and 'flashplugin-nonfree' ?
[00:55] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, run 'top' command see what's using resources
[00:56] <kaddi> ign0ramus: google says they are the same thing: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1027980
[00:57] <ign0ramus> kaddi, thanks :)  ... i'm too busy googling stuff too.  Others seem to have this issue as well, but i haven't come across a fix yet :(
[00:58] <kaddi> ign0ramus: If I'd checked with google first you wouldn't have had to switch between the too of them :/
[00:58] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i type top in command nothing happen
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Flash seems flaky for a lot of people in
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> linu
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> x
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> but is seems to work fine for m
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> e
[00:58] <ign0ramus> kaddi, anything reasonable is worth trying
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ...?
[00:58] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, stop that! :)
[00:58] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I dont know why its dong it! o_O
[00:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> *doig :/
[00:59] <ign0ramus> haha
[00:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> ...
[00:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> fail :/
[00:59] <ign0ramus> CoJaBo-Aztec, at least your flash works properly :)
[01:00] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Yeh lol
[01:01] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: a programe name
[01:02] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, huh?
[01:02] <xp-killer> aaa everything bugging out help me
[01:02] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, that's not very descriptive :|
[01:02] <xp-killer> i didnt press enter and it send the msg
[01:03] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: whats the programme wish8.5?can i stop it?
[01:03] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, have you had your pc exorcised of any daemons?
[01:03] <xp-killer> lol
[01:03] <xp-killer> funny
[01:03] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, 'kdesudo ksysguard'
[01:03] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[01:03] <ign0ramus> xp-killer,  find the app and kill it.  it's similar to Windows Task Manager
[01:04] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: wow 1st time seing this sys guard.how do i know witch programe is slowing me down?
[01:05] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, they should be sorted by memory or cpu or whatever... see what's eating up resources and kill it with fire!
[01:05] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, i prefer CLI, so htop is great for this ;)
[01:05] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, 'sudo apt-get install htop' then 'htop'
[01:08] <Walzmyn_> Is there a way to see these system info anouncements after they've dissapeared?
[01:08] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, what? the system notifications?
[01:10] <Walzmyn_> ign0ramus: i guess, there's a little greyed out (i) on my sys tray, messages pop out of it. they dissapear before i can read them
[01:11] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: how can u like htop?it opens in the shell its weird
[01:11] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, that's what i like about it - no gui necessary :)
[01:11] <kaddi> hehe
[01:12] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, and clicking or right clicking gives no response?
[01:12] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, that notification is generally used for things like when you're copying a file from one place to another and such
[01:13] <xp-killer> ign0ramus:  whats vmsize and vmrss?
[01:13] <Walzmyn_> ign0ramus: left click nothing, right click just the normal task bar options
[01:13] <kaddi> xp-killer you can also start ksysguard using ctrl-esc if you don't want to type it into a shell each time :)
[01:13] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, vmsize is the amount of Virtural Memory
[01:14] <xp-killer> vmrss?
[01:15] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, Virtual Memory Resident Set Size... no idea what that actually means, though :)
[01:16] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, there are some settings for Notifications in System Settings, but nothing about how long the notification should appear :(
[01:16] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: so the ones to stop is the one that uses the most of vmsize?
[01:17] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i kill the kicker and my Kmenu bar is gone its not there :s
[01:17] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, just type in 'kicker' and it will come back
[01:18] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: type it where?
[01:18] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, i would look to see what is using either Memory or CPU ... those probably are the culprits
[01:18] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, in terminal in krunner (alt+f2)
[01:18] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, terminal OR krunner *
[01:19] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: but i dont see cpu mark next to the names just vmsize vmrss pid....
[01:19] <Walzmyn_> ign0ramus: they're really not that fast. It's just htat sometimes i'm  busy or i've steppeed away
[01:20] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, i don't think there's a way to make them stay... yet, anyway
[01:20] <Walzmyn_> ok, forget that. How can I get the freaking wireless router to connect without having to type my password everytime?
[01:20] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, if you run 'htop' there is "%cpu" and "%mem"
[01:21] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, then you can just use up and down arrows to highlight the offender and press F9 to kill it :)
[01:21] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: yea but its dangerous they keep moving
[01:22] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, lol yeah they do... alternately, you can use the "kill" command. but i'm wondering why you don't see cpu or memory in ksysguard
[01:23] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: i find the culpret
[01:23] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: it was amsn
[01:23] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, for example, if firefox is acting up, you can do 'sudo killall firefox' to shut it down (sigterm) it immediately.  'man killall'  will tell you more
[01:23] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, aha! :)
[01:24] <xp-killer> htop is better your right
[01:25] <C00LARR0w> anyone have any idea why my ip keeps changing back to a dhcp setup even though i have entered the static in /etc/network/interfaces and if i restart the interface it picks up the static info?
[01:25] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, i think so. plus if you're ever locked out of your gui, you'll know how to do more things ;)
[01:25] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: anywayy tanks
[01:25] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, np :)
[01:26] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: does it have laptops when you reinstall the os(xp) does the password from befor comes back and block the pc?
[01:26] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, do you mean your Windows password or a BIOS password?
[01:27] <xp-killer> ign0ramus: windows.i reinstall and xp for someone he came back the next they and it had passsword on the admin and users?
[01:28] <xp-killer> sorry it's offtopic but i just want to kno even if u install os the password remains?
[01:28] <TMKCodes> Hmm... I have some problems with skype. It does not record my voice even tough my mic works :/
[01:28] <ign0ramus> xp-killer, then they probably set the password(s) manually.  a fresh install of windows will wipe the user passwords.  but yeah, this is offtopic
[01:29] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, check alsamixer to make sure all your correct inputs have sound enabled
[01:30] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: You mean in KMix?
[01:30] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, run 'alsamixer'
[01:31] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, use tab button to see more if there are more
[01:31] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, on my lappy, i guess it would be the 'capture' setting that i would need to record
[01:31] <TMKCodes> yeah
[01:33] <TMKCodes> Wierd they are all open :/
[01:33] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, have you checked the audio settings within skype?
[01:34] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: yeah, but on test call it calls, but when it asks to speak i speak and when it plays it back nothing comes..
[01:34] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, is it nothing, or possibly just *very* quiet?
[01:34] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: its nothing..
[01:35] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, hate to say it, but this is probably your best bet: http://forum.skype.com/index.php?s=b9b52fcbfb034e12e21d1b45d2d75c8e&showforum=18
[01:36] <TMKCodes> Might be so.
[01:36] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, if it's a skype issue and not a kubuntu issue, you'll get better support there
[01:36] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: True. :)
[01:36] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, i tried :)
[01:36] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: thanks :P
[01:37] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, well, i didn't do much, but you're welcome ;)
[01:37] <kaddi> is it possible to install updates for an "old" kernel? I'm using the 30 and there were some updates for the "normal" 28 kernel.. I would like to install these and see if the visual effects work any better with them.
[01:38] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, maybe here? (.pdf warning) http://linux.derkeiler.com/pdf/Mailing-Lists/Debian/2009-03/msg02112.pdf
[01:39] <ign0ramus> kaddi, yeah, you can... does it say they are being held back?
[01:39] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: It really does not matter if it doesnt work i just need to get my windows destop fixed. :/
[01:39] <kaddi> ign0ramus: yes it says they are blocked (update notifier)
[01:39] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, fix it with linux! :)
[01:39] <ign0ramus> kaddi, 'sudo apt-get dist-upgrade'
[01:39] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: it's not finding hd's nothing else wrong with it. :P
[01:40] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, that's for another channel :P
[01:40] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: i know :P
[01:40] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes, but check bios settings and check hdd connection ;)
[01:41] <TMKCodes> ign0ramus: i know, have been just lazy :P
[01:41] <ign0ramus> TMKCodes,  that i can't help you with.  i have that same bug on my system as well :P
[01:41] <TMKCodes> :D
[01:42] <kaddi> ign0ramus: lol, 180Mb additional space used, I think I just changed my mind :p But thanks for the answer :)
[01:42] <tehboriz> "no write access to /tehboriz/home, kde could not start"
[01:42] <tehboriz> how to fix ^
[01:42] <ign0ramus> kaddi, it was a whole new kernel, yeah?
[01:42] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, what app/command are you using?
[01:42] <tehboriz> ign0ramus, i can't boot into kde
[01:42] <tehboriz> i get the welcome screen
[01:42] <tehboriz> but further than that i cannot go
[01:43] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, sounds like you do not have permissions to your home folder
[01:43] <tehboriz> ign0ramus, i do though...
[01:43] <tehboriz> i did chmod +x /tehboriz/home
[01:43] <tehboriz> just in case
[01:43] <tehboriz> still a problem
[01:43] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, that makes it executable
[01:43] <tehboriz> crap
[01:43] <tehboriz> how do i make it writable
[01:44] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, just for example 'sudo chmod -R 777 ~/*' could do it, but that's probably not the recommended way to do it
[01:44] <tehboriz> sudo chmod -r 777 /tehboriz/home ?
[01:45] <tehboriz> i wanna go into my linux i don't care what i gotta do >.<
[01:45] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, "~" is the same as "/home/tehboriz" in your case
[01:45] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, the command above will probably work, but again, i'm sure that's not the 'proper' way to do it.
[01:46] <kaddi> ign0ramus I thought it was only an update, but haven't checked. it says: 2.6.28.11.15 and I'm pretty sure it was 2.6.28.11.something before...  But I am currently using a different kernel.
[01:46] <kaddi> thanks to you ;)
[01:46] <tehboriz> i'll try it out anyways, thanks
[01:46] <ign0ramus> kaddi, i know :)  2.6.30 is excellent!  yeah, i think a new kernel (for regular folks) came through today
[01:47] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, let me know how it goes.  you're essentially giving global read/write/execute permissions to your home directory.  and one last time, that is probably not the recommended way to do it
[01:47] <tehboriz> okay thanks ign0ramus :)
[01:48] <ign0ramus> tehboriz, don't yell at me if this produces undesirable effects! :P
[01:49] <tehboriz> kay brb
[01:50] <super__rad> is it normal everytime I close a KDE program in gnome "launching knotify" appears on the taskbar then dissapears
[01:52] <ign0ramus> super__rad, apparently common: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=434396
[01:52] <Walzmyn_> super__rad: don't use Ga-nome but that's probably normal because KDE always hits knotify for system announcements
[01:52] <Walzmyn_> Whatis the deal with people changing their nicks in here?
[01:52] <ign0ramus> super__rad, but i wouldn't follow the last guys advice on that thread :/
[01:52] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn_, it's just one undecided person
[01:53] <kaddi> I see a ban comming :p
[01:53] <i> sorry
[01:53] <i> forgot I was in here
[01:53] <i> my apologies
[01:53] <ign0ramus> O_o
[01:53] <kaddi> :D
[01:53] <super__rad> thanks, didn't have any errors so thought it was ok but just checking
[01:53] <ign0ramus> there are some strange folks out there, kids!  say 'no' to strangers!
[01:54] <kaddi> even if they have cookies?
[01:54]  * kaddi is going to switch to OT before somebody tells me to :p
[01:54] <ign0ramus> kaddi, if the cookies are still warm, i'll allow it :)
[01:54] <ign0ramus> bye kaddi!  i have to go as well
[01:54] <ign0ramus> gnite all!
[01:55] <kaddi> have a good night
[01:55] <kaddi> :)
[01:55] <kaddi> sleep well and nice dreams :)
[01:55] <ign0ramus> i'm going out for drinks first :)
[02:00] <tehboriz> hey whos' the guy who just helped me a few mins ago
[02:00] <kaddi> he's gone now.. is it working?
[02:01] <tehboriz> yes :D
[02:01] <kaddi> great :D
[02:01] <tehboriz> -r didn't work
[02:01] <tehboriz> it just said "what's director 777?"
[02:01] <tehboriz> so i put in sudo chmod 777 /home/tehboriz
[02:01] <picketfences> Anybody having a problem getting Pidgin connected to the Yahoo! Messenger service?
[02:01] <tehboriz> picketfences: i have it >.<
[02:02] <tehboriz> i thought it was just me :2
[02:02] <picketfences> :tehboriz: Mine worked fine earlier, but now it won't connect. Neither will Kopete, for that matter.
[02:02] <picketfences> :tehboriz: Could it be a problem with Yahoo! itself?
[02:02] <tehboriz> picketfences: mine worked before today, and now it won't work
[02:02] <tehboriz> it might be?
[02:03] <picketfences> :tehboriz: Thanks. I was starting to worry. :)
[02:03] <tehboriz> hehe me too, good thing you have the same prob
[02:04] <picketfences> Now for something a little different: Does anyone use the Banshee iPod program?
[02:04] <tehboriz> nope
[02:04] <tehboriz> lol
[02:08] <tehboriz> "the audio playback device HDA Intel (ALC889 Analog) does not work. Falling back to .
[02:09] <tehboriz> what does this mean and i want my sound back...
[02:09] <picketfences> :tehboriz: When that happens to me, normally a logout and login fixes the problem.
[02:09] <picketfences> :tehboriz: otherwise, I have no idea
[02:09] <tehboriz> okay that could work
[02:10] <tehboriz> what does blocked updates mean
[02:10] <tehboriz> i have "linux generic kernel" under it
[02:10] <picketfences> :tehboriz: I'm not entirely sure. I've seen that, too, but it doesn't seem to affect anything major.
[02:10] <tehboriz> okay
[02:10] <tehboriz> i can't update. says i need permissiosn
[02:10] <tehboriz> omfg
[02:11] <kaddi> it means the updates are not installed because some other package installed are not compatable withit
[02:11] <picketfences> :tehboriz: What version of "linux generic kernel" does it say is blocked?
[02:11] <picketfences> :kaddi: Thank you, I did not know that.
[02:11] <picketfences> :kaddi: How can we figure out which package(s) have the conflict?
[02:11] <tehboriz> linux-generic-2.6.28.11.15
[02:12] <tehboriz> gonan try doing a relog to see if sound fixed
[02:12] <picketfences> Good luck
[02:16] <kaddi> tehboriz: I don't know how you can check this.. I know that aptitude will show you unmet dependencies. When you type uname -a  into your shell it should show which kernel you're running, so you can see if the version you have is newer then the one you want to install
[02:17] <tehboriz> crap, sound only works when i'm root
[02:17] <tehboriz> and that's stupid.
[02:17] <kaddi> tehboriz: apt-cache policy "package name" will also tell which version of package you have installed and which are available for download
[02:18] <kaddi> in this case package name is "linux generic"
[02:18] <kaddi> sorry "linux-generic"
[02:19] <tehboriz> installed: 2.6.28.11.15, candidate: 2.6.28.13.17
[02:19] <tehboriz> how do i force it to update? that might be messing up my sound
[02:22] <kaddi> tehboriz: I don't really know... When I asked earlier I was told "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" should do the trick.. but I can't tell you if there are any risks involved
[02:22] <tehboriz> i am doesn't afraid of risks
[02:23] <tehboriz> google says otherwise, i think i'll listen to you first
[02:23] <tehboriz> wooohooo 1000kb/s
[02:24] <kaddi> hehe
[02:24] <tehboriz> 1229 now
[02:25] <tehboriz> okay i updated it now
[02:25] <tehboriz> should i log out and log back in?
[02:25] <tehboriz> woaa okay i have 48 updates now
[02:27] <kaddi> i believe kernel updates are one of the rare occasions where a reboot is needed... and it certainly shouldn't hurt ;)
[02:28] <Kira_Light> anything better for the kernel? is there a link to what has been changed?
[02:30] <Kira_Light> nevermind, can google later. reboot needed
[02:32] <burn_> how to execute files? [that arent .sh] ?
[02:34] <tehboriz> yay everything works now :)
[02:34] <tehboriz> new version of amarok too!
[02:34] <kaddi> great :D
[02:34] <kaddi> I know :D
[02:34] <tehboriz> lol anything good about it?
[02:35] <tehboriz> woa i can bookmark parts of songs
[02:35] <kaddi> I haven't really tested it.. still have the same probs as before ;)
[02:35] <tehboriz> a completely useless feature for me
[02:36] <kaddi> hehe
[02:36] <tehboriz> now i can't get rid of the bookmakrs
[02:37] <kaddi> they're going to take over your PC .o
[02:37] <kaddi> :o
[02:37] <tehboriz> crap yeah
[02:37] <tehboriz> they're right in the middle of a good song
[02:37] <tehboriz> and the little popup won't go away!!! :@
[02:37] <burn_> my [devices that is plugged in] doesnt work i have sata and ata dvd, when i inster dvd into sata dvd rom it doesnt show that dvd is inside the tray, and cant eject the cd with the program or [clicking the buttion on cd-rom]
[02:38] <Zxcvb> is there anything in kubuntu that won't work at all with an i586 CPU
[02:38] <burn_> i eject it manualy kons> eject /dev/scd0
[02:38] <burn_> how to fix this?
[02:38] <Zxcvb> it runs at about 800MHz P3 speed, but only supports the i586 instruction set
[02:39] <Zxcvb> specifically, does anything need CMOV or other i686 instructions?
[02:43] <kalak> Hello everyone
[02:45] <burn_> how to execute executable files?
[02:45] <burn_> from the console
[02:46] <Kira_Light> you have permissions to the file?
[02:46] <burn_> yes
[02:46] <Kira_Light> check the drive to see if you mounted with the noexec flag
[02:46] <Kalak> cd to directory then ./<filename>
[02:47] <burn_> say cannot execute binary file
[02:47]  * Kalak is currently bashing his head into his desk due to kopete yahoo issues again
[02:48] <burn_> Kira_Light: how to check that?
[02:50] <kaddi> burn_ type "mount" into your shell and check for the drive.  check if noexec is listed as an option
[02:52] <burn_> Kira_Light: there is /dev/sda6/ ; proc ; sysfs ; varrun ; varlock ; etc....
[02:53] <burn_> i need to check the /dev/sda6 ?
[02:53] <burn_> (rw,relatime,errors=remount-ro)
[02:56] <darlek> Hello, I have been setting up Kubuntu 9.04 lately, and it seems harder for new users than 8.04 with KDE 3.5. Any advice on setting up a stable, easy to use installation for non technical users?
[02:57] <burn_> darlek yes dont press anything :D
[02:57] <kaddi> burn_ where is the file you want to execute?
[02:57] <burn_> in my /home/burn
[02:58] <darlek> yea, I know. I can just set it up dual boot just to use for internet to keep windows from getting hacked up, but what a waste of open source
[02:58] <darlek> also, they press stuff
[02:59] <kaddi> ok, then the partition should ne fine :)
[02:59] <burn_> :D
[02:59] <burn_> then how to execute it since the sh filename not working
[03:00] <burn_> might be some other shell?
[03:00] <Kira_Light> burn-: type grep noexec /proc/mounts
[03:00] <Kira_Light> get anything?
[03:01] <burn_> yep
[03:01] <burn_> grep noexec /proc/mounts....
[03:02] <burn_> none /sys sysfs
[03:02] <burn_> none /proc proc
[03:02] <Kira_Light> anything for the mounted drive that your file is located on?
[03:02] <burn_> nothing
[03:03] <burn_> i just dont know wich type is this file [it is executable] but dont know how to run it
[03:04] <Kira_Light> try sudo chmod a+x filename
[03:04] <burn_> if i click it  i get open with, shing from console says unexpected ")" , ./filename says cannot execute binary file
[03:04] <kaddi> you sure this is a linux executable? :p
[03:04] <burn_> yes
[03:05] <burn_> a+x shows nothing
[03:05] <Kira_Light> that command should set the file to execute. try launching
[03:06] <burn_> nothing
[03:08] <burn_> nvm its not that matter, thnx for help :D
[03:08] <Kira_Light> what type of file is it...lol, type: file filename
[03:08] <Kira_Light> :o
[03:19] <Nosg> Hey guys, help me get this to the frontpage, will you? Thanks! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Having_a_Mac_costs_an_extra_400
[03:19] <Zxcvb> will I be missing anything if I switch from slackware to kubuntu (thinking of switching as it is a royal pain to compile all the multimedia stuff manually, among other things)?
[03:32] <kurumin> oi
[03:38] <leandro> o
[03:38] <leandro> hi
[03:48] <milo_> please how do I change open office into french?
[03:50] <wizardslovak> in grub how should i change kubuntu to be first to boot?
[03:52] <xiaket> wizardslovak: check the "default num" section in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:53] <wizardslovak> shouldnt i see "grub editor" in system settings
[03:54] <petike> Hi, I just reinstalled Kubuntu (had the wrong version the first time, turns out my computer is 64bit). Someone here helped me install a NVIDIA driver on the previous Kubuntu after I complained that it crashed a lot...does anyone know where I can find the link to download and install that file?
[04:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> 51 -!- NightHawk1 [n=NightHaw@c-67-183-0-22.hsd1.wa.comcast.net] has joined #euphoria
[04:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> 22:57 < unkmar> The RESUME button is the Most prominent button on the printer itself.  Probably big and green.
[04:02] <CoJaBo-Aztec> 22:
[04:03] <CoJaBo-Aztec> How did I manaage to do that? o_O
[04:07] <KyoMetal> hola
[04:16] <beatzz_> Got this weird border around 1/2 of my screen at the login screen for kubuntu
[04:16] <beatzz_> like i can move my mouse cursor off the side of the screen
[04:16] <beatzz_> and it reveals a black border
[04:16] <beatzz_> any ideas?
[04:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> beatzz_: Mine does that too, but it goes away after logging in.
[04:18] <beatzz_> yea it go';s away after login for me as well
[04:18] <beatzz_> but I would like it to not happen at all
[04:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> beatzz_: Changing the resolution of the login screen might help. Not sure where the setting is, tho Google would probably help (I never bothered to fix mine)
[04:30] <gecko_> hello
[04:30] <gecko_> i have any question
[04:45] <Serpardum> How do I default links to firefox instead of konquer?
[04:50] <davidjheinrich> how do I find out what Ubuntu calls my various keyboard keys?
[04:50] <davidjheinrich> i.e., what does it call the "[" and "]" keys? I want to assign hem to wacom buttons
[04:56] <petike> My KDE desktop has dissappeared; I restarted the laptop after installing a graphics driver and instead of KDE I'm just given the default Ubuntu. Anyone know how to fix this?
[04:57] <korneliorogelio> is it possible that the kernel -13 is causing kopete to close with an error?
[04:57] <petike> Uninstalling the graphics driver didn't work
[04:58] <petike> kornel: I'm sorry, I'm still a newbie at all things Linux.
[04:58] <alesan> hi do you know what to do how to install support for bluetooth file transfers on KDE 3?
[04:59] <Serpardum> petike: your file is messed up.  it's .. umm. x11.conf I think?  let me find it
[04:59] <korneliorogelio> can some one please check this out and give me a hand? http://paste.ubuntu.com/198926/
[05:00] <petike> Thank you. If it helps, the logon screen is the same KDE. Once I login, a query asks me whether I'd like to delete the KDE file. I chose no, of course.
[05:01] <Serpardum> look at: /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[05:01] <Serpardum> that probably describes your old card
[05:01] <subcool> someone help me with my raid mount plase-
[05:01] <subcool> im lost
[05:04] <Serpardum> hmm. mine is just all "default" this and "default" th at
[05:04] <Serpardum> or "configured"
[05:04] <Serpardum> it must be the video drivers you need or soemthing
[05:06] <petike> Serpardum: it isn't saying much except: Section "Device"
[05:06] <petike> 	Identifier	"Configured Video Device"
[05:06] <petike> EndSection
[05:06] <petike> Section "Monitor"
[05:06] <petike> 	Identifier	"Configured Monitor"
[05:06] <FloodBotK2> petike: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:06] <petike> EndSection
[05:06] <petike> Sorry about that. I was just going to post the file results: http://paste.ubuntu.com/198928/
[05:08] <petike> Serpardum: this happened after I installed the driver.
[05:08] <Serpardum> yeah, I think you need to install the video driver somehow
[05:08] <Serpardum> maybe the driver is bad
[05:08] <Serpardum> how did y ou install the driver?
[05:09] <Serpardum> or maybe your desktop resolutio it was left at is higher than your current card can accept
[05:09] <Serpardum> not sure
[05:09] <petike> from the Hardrive Drivers program
[05:10] <petike> When I unchecked and restarted, it didnt change back to KDE
[05:16] <alexshenoy> i was wondering if anybody was having problems with kde's effects where they lock up xorg
[05:17] <alexshenoy> i had them lock up xorg the other day. b/c it wasnt rendering them properly
[05:17] <alexshenoy> i tried to restart kdm for vc1, but that didn't work and just locked up the entire xorg server. i had to hard reset
[05:20] <subcool> what does this mean?
[05:20] <subcool> mount: you didn't specify a filesystem type for /dev/sda1
[05:20] <subcool>        I will try type hfsplus
[05:20] <subcool> /dev/sda1 on /mnt type hfsplus (ro)
[05:20] <FloodBotK2> subcool: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[05:20] <subcool> 3 lines isnt flooding
[05:48] <DaskreeCH> !info skrooge karmic
[05:56] <subcool> someone please tell me what that outputmeans?
[06:02] <Serpardum> Hello, how can I prevent kubuntu from automounting my hard drives:?
[06:15] <subcool> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-desktop-74/selectively-disable-partitions-in-kdehal-automount-723073/
[06:15] <subcool> http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/temporarily-disable-automount-337278/
[06:20] <Serpardum> looking at the links subcool, thx
[06:20] <subcool> i didnt really skim them- but good luck.
[06:21] <Serpardum> any idea what replaced kcontrol?
[06:22] <Serpardum> unfortunately kcontrol is obsolete and teh 2nd one is only temproary
[06:25] <p_quarles> Serpardum: systemsettings
[06:27] <DaskreeCH> Does anyone use Skrooge?
[06:35] <Serpardum> It's annoying to run kate, edit a file such as /etc/fstab then not be able to save it.  Have to go to a command prompt and kbesudo kate and reedit the file
[06:35] <Serpardum> is there a way to have kbesudo kate as an icon?
[06:37] <Serpardum> where is systemsettings?  In applications->settings I only see QT4 and java settings
[06:37] <Serpardum> found it
[06:39] <Serpardum> that worked for setting default to firefox
[06:39] <Serpardum> thanks p_quarles
[06:39] <Serpardum> now still trying to find out how to disable automounting
[06:39] <Serpardum> mgiht be in advanced tab
[06:43] <Serpardum> no :/
[06:52] <DaskreeCH> Serpardum: yes you can have kdesudo as an icon. You can also press alt+f2 and type in kdesudo kate /etc/fstab
[07:14] <Serpardum> I found the answer as to how to stop automounting my HDs.  The easiest way I foudn was to add an entry in fstab with noauto
[07:14] <Serpardum> I still see them in dolphin, but get an error they're not mounted when I try to access (which is fine by me)
[07:17] <pulaski> Hello, I run kubuntu with kde4 and jaunty 9.04 now.  I have an older Microtec USB ScanMaker 4850 scanner I haven't been able to run under earlier ubuntus.  Does anyone know of an up to date resource for a list of compatible hardware and or drivers for jaunty 9.04?
[07:25] <DaskreeCH> !scanner
[07:33] <zoiss> hey guys. have you also got  4 blocked linux kernel updates?
[07:38] <digdeep> yes
[07:39] <digdeep> I did "apt-get install all of them"
[07:39]  * DaskreeCH never installs new kernels
[07:41] <digdeep> hm, wait for it then
[07:41] <zoiss> is it just blocked because of a wrong discription of the version number?
[07:48] <|Ryan> I need halp with installing Kubuntu 9.04 from the ISO - When i click the wubi in the Kubuntu 9.04 ISO, it comes up with the Ubuntu installer and when I click on the select desktop environment and click Kubuntu, it goes to the installation and downloads it all over again. Anyone know how I can resolve this?
[07:50] <Peace-> hey guys i have a big big big problem
[07:50] <Peace-> i can't connect to wifi ..wpa-psk
[07:50] <Peace-> atheros with ath5k driver here
[07:51] <Peace-> and i have tried with madwifi too
[07:51] <Peace-> but this fucking network manager doesn't work
[07:51] <bazhang> Peace-, please watch the language
[07:53] <|Ryan> Can anyone help me?
[07:57] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=571188 Peace-
[07:59] <max_> Where do i put fonts that i have downloaded?
[07:59] <max_> !font
[08:01] <shock_day13> hey fellows i have some blocked updates.................how to unblock them?
[08:03] <Peace-> bazhang: ty
[08:04] <shock_day13> hey fellows i have some blocked updates.................how to unblock them?
[08:04] <bazhang> shock_day13, you can individually install them if you wish, though may be a good idea to wait
[08:10] <Peace-> bazhang: but i can't underestand 1 thing.... it said a pre shared key on ASCII ...well on my router i have written a easy password like this 1234545
[08:11] <Peace-> what shall i put then ? in ASCII
[08:11] <Peace-> and is a wpa-psk
[08:12] <Peace-> and with kubuntu 8.04 was working fine
[08:12] <bazhang> Peace-, does it connect without any encryption at all? also what does ifconfig show as well as iwconfig (in konsole) you may need to associate the ap and follow the other steps outlined in the link
[08:12] <Peace-> ok i am going to check some stuff
[08:13] <Peace-> i will use uncrypted network
[08:13] <bazhang> just to check it first
[08:14] <bazhang> paste.ubuntu.com with the output of those two commands Peace- (ifconfig  iwconfig )
[08:25] <tony_> Is there a program for ubuntu that I could burn wii Iso's with?
[08:26] <tony_> Anyone?
[08:26] <bazhang> wii ISO?
[08:26] <tony_> Yeah
[08:26] <bazhang> wii games come on DVD's
[08:27] <tony_> When you dump them to back them up its an iso...
[08:27] <bazhang> why not just use the original DVD? doubt a re-burned ISO will work
[08:28] <dROg> anyone using pidgin online ?
[08:53] <user6> hello boys... In konqueror what it means the green asterix "*" showed in the first coloumn of the images files (in text view) ?
[08:58] <user6> hello boys... In konqueror what it means the green asterix "*" showed in the first coloumn of the images files (in text view) ?
[08:58] <user6> I explane me better... you can see it on http://www9.picfront.org/picture/Lq0L0jmf/img/asterix.png
[09:19] <eagles0513875> hey guys what is the hp program that manages plug and play hp printers
[09:22] <ubuntu__> hi
[09:50] <noaXess> hi all
[09:51] <noaXess> have upgrade to openoffice 3.1 on my kubuntu 9.04 with kde 4.2.90.. now.. openoffice looks really strange.. i can work.. but it don't have the gtk look i configured in system settings. i use this sources for oo.org 3.1: deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/openoffice-pkgs/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main
[09:51] <noaXess> any idea, experience?
[09:51] <noaXess> i se, that there is no openoffice.org-kde package.. which i think has the right look in it..
[10:44] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXXs and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13).
[10:46] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXXs and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[10:50] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXXs and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[10:56] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXXs and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[10:59] <fincan> lol, all sleeping?!?! :)
[11:00] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXX-2.6.28.11.15 and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[11:06] <fincan> nevermind, I ve solved problem with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade". Well this means that Kpackageit doesnt have "dist-upgrade" options?
[11:34] <net_> ciao
[11:34] <net_> !list
[11:34] <net_> !bot
[12:05] <aluzza> hi
[12:05] <Serpardum> Yello
[12:05] <aluzza> :)
[12:06] <aluzza> maybe i'm just off topic, but i'd like to know if there are other channels where it si possible to talk about anything
[12:08] <bazhang> aluzza, #kubuntu-offtopic for non-support kubuntu/ubuntu stuff ; #defocus for freenode off topic chat
[12:08] <aluzza> tnx
[12:33] <ayush> hello
[12:34] <ayush> any indian
[12:34] <Serpardum> I have VirtualBox OSE icon on my desktop.  I want to move it to my favorites, but I cant' find it in my applciations
[12:34] <Serpardum> I type in Vir and it doesn't show up
[12:34] <ayush> Copy or past :)
[12:34] <Serpardum> strange, I found it
[12:34] <Serpardum> in applciations,.  but not when it searched *shrug*
[12:46] <tam> hi everyone
[12:53] <amgarching> I see this in "dmesg": udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 Why does it do it?
[13:00] <petrus_> tem alguem ai?
[13:21] <noaXess> does anybody work with krdc in kde 4.2.90?
[13:21] <noaXess> can't open any bookmark with doubleclick
[13:22] <joschi> hi
[13:35] <stephan_> noaXess: same bug here
[13:35] <noaXess> stephan_: okay.. than it's a but in kde 4.2.90.. so it's beta 3.. so wait for next release.. thanks for confirmation
[13:37] <stephan_> noaXess: it's still sort of usable, because its possible to enter the server over the "adress bar"
[13:37] <noaXess> stephan_: yes i saw that..
[13:44] <Serpardum> ack, I can't do alt-171 to do 1/2 symbol in kebuntu?  How would I generate/use that?
[13:48] <noaXess> !search nvidiA
[13:48] <noaXess> !nvidia
[13:51] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[13:54] <compilerwriter> Hiya BluesKaj
[13:54] <compilerwriter> I am beginning to thing that jaunty really bites.
[13:55] <BluesKaj> compilerwriter, bites...in what way ?
[13:56] <compilerwriter> The big one.
[13:56] <petsounds> hello, how can i send songs to ipod ? thank you
[13:56] <compilerwriter> I finally got nvidia drivers installed.  no easy feat.  My machine is now running slower than molasses.
[13:58] <digdeep> petsounds: on kubuntu?
[14:00] <compilerwriter> I am having trouble with kpackageit.  I am about ready do a clean install of ibex and go on with life.
[14:03] <slow-motion> hi
[14:05] <marco_> hey
[14:13] <what_if> My application launcher stopped working so I deleted and re-added the widget. The replacement one works... but the nice new kde4 menu setup is gone. How do I restore the original menu?
[14:18] <Dragnslcr> what_if- you mean you added the KDE3-style K menu, and you want the new style instead?
[14:18] <what_if> um.... hold on...
[14:20] <what_if> lol... thats exactly it. There are 2 in the widgets menu.
[14:21] <what_if> Didnt know there was 2... thank you.
[14:21] <Dragnslcr> Heh, no problem
[14:21] <Dragnslcr> I'm just glad there are two different menus. I can't stand the new one
[14:21] <Dragnslcr> But that's the beauty of choice
[14:23] <what_if> you know anything about SMART? after my last update (kernel) it stopped working. Errors with "S.M.A.R.T. not available"
[14:29] <compilerwriter> KpackageKit has honked me off I'm apt-getting synaptic.
[14:32] <digdeep> compilerwriter: what is wrong?
[14:34] <Dragnslcr> It's still better than the KDE4 version of Adept
[14:34] <compilerwriter> Kpackagekit keeps crapping out on me.  Something about the need to fork.
[14:34] <compilerwriter> The backend is taking too long.
[14:34] <compilerwriter> I can't update the system.
[14:34] <compilerwriter> grr.
[14:36] <Dragnslcr> When I had that error, it didn't stop me from doing anything
[14:36] <Dragnslcr> I only got it after I did something
[14:36] <Dragnslcr> It got fixed in KDE 4.2.3 or 4.2.4, too
[14:39] <compilerwriter> I can't seem to get updated to 4.2.4 because of that error.
[14:47] <cuznt> !botsnack
[14:57] <compilerwriter> !botsnack
[15:05] <aamache> hello guys
[15:05] <aamache> anyone knows  what is the command to go to network drive using terminal?
[15:06] <genii> aamache: It depends on the kind of network drive... samba/nfs   etc
[15:06] <aamache> samba
[15:07] <arvid> I have a question. I'm running kde4.3Beta2 and have been running kde4 since before 4.0. It has come a long way, but it feels like plasmoids still doesn't work very well. is that just me? some - like "folder view" works great, but installing plasmoids from kde-look (with the built in installer) never seems to succes. either the plasmoid never shows up, or just doesn't work
[15:08] <Dragnslcr> aamache- smbclient
[15:08] <aamache> ok thx i ll try now
[15:09] <kaddi> how do I delete a user from my system?
[15:12] <Serpardum> there is a command for that
[15:13] <Serpardum> cant' remember it though.
[15:13] <Serpardum> although there's probably a way in settings, let me look
[15:15] <Dragnslcr> kaddi- K Menu -> System -> KUser
[15:16] <Serpardum> ahh, there it is
[15:16] <ign0ramus_> hi kaddi.  do you ever sleep?
[15:17] <kaddi> lol, I was gonna ask the same about you :D
[15:17] <ign0ramus_> kaddi, well when you see me, its evening hours for me, but my boss left work early today, so I'm free to chat all day :)
[15:17] <kaddi> bbtw tehboris came back yesterday to say that your advice helped him :)
[15:18] <ign0ramus_> kaddi, good to know. . . what i told him probably wasn't the best solution (i made that clear to him), but i knew it would allow him to log in again
[15:18] <victim> using 9.10 with KDE3, my locale seems to be wrong, Thunderbird and OO.o both think I'm using a US system but the system settings claims I am using en_gb. How can I check what local I am really using and how do change it?
[15:19] <victim> ooops, that should be 9.04
[15:19] <ign0ramus_> !locale | victim
[15:22] <konstantin> народ - как кодеки  в кубунте установить
[15:22] <konstantin> ?
[15:22] <Mamarok> !ru | konstantin
[15:22] <bazhang> konstantin, #ubuntu-ru
[15:23] <victim> do I need the *.utf8 version or the locale without?
[15:24] <ign0ramus_> victim: you'd want like en_GB.utf-8
[15:24] <Mamarok> victim: UTF-8 is always a good choice
[15:24] <konstantin> how does install kodeks in kubuntu?
[15:24] <victim> thank you
[15:24] <ign0ramus_> !codecs | konstantin
[15:25] <bazhang> konstantin, kubuntu-restricted-extras
[15:25] <konstantin> thanks
[15:26] <bazhang> konstantin, also check out medibuntu.org
[15:26] <ign0ramus_> konstantin: you may want to add the medibuntu repos too
[15:26] <bazhang> jinx
[15:26] <ign0ramus_> what bazhang  said ^ :)
[15:26] <bazhang> :)
[15:27] <zer0o> hi guys, how do i get permissions to write on a cd?
[15:28] <ign0ramus_> zer0o: what app/command are you using, and what errors do you receive?
[15:31] <zer0o> ign0ramus_: when i put it in usually an icon appears on the desktop, i click on it and i can see whatz in, or with k3b i can write on it, its a couple of days, the icon appears but apparently it does not automatically mount it as it used to do before, and when clicking on it dolphin says "Could not start process Unable to create io-slave" "klauncher said: unknown protocol"
[15:31] <ign0ramus_> zer0o: is the disc mounted?
[15:32] <zer0o> usually its automatically mounted as soon as i put it in as i said before
[15:32] <zer0o> now it is not i guess
[15:33] <ign0ramus_> zer0o: let me look around ... i have the distinct disadvantage of being at work on a windows box, so i cant check my own system like normal :/
[15:34] <zer0o> alright cool, anyway a "mount" from terminal gave no "cdrom0" or "scd0" as mounted drives so it does not mount it automatically anymore
[15:36] <ign0ramus_> zer0o: does your fstab contain an entry for the cd drive?
[15:36] <zer0o> giving this mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only the output is mount: block device /dev/scd0 is write-protected, mounting read-only
[15:36]  * ign0ramus_ wishes he was on his linux box
[15:36] <zer0o> yes it does, i compiled it one year ago and it always worked correctly
[15:51] <kaosreign> i murt de broadcome
[15:52] <kaosreign> how can i install bcm4306 driver on kubuntu 8.04
[15:52] <kaosreign> ????
[15:52] <kaosreign> anyone can help me???
[15:52] <ign0ramus_> !broadcom | kaosreign
[15:52] <kevin__> how to run vista on kubuntu
[15:53] <ign0ramus_> !vm | kevin__
[15:59] <kevin__> vmware downloaded but fails on kubuntu 64x
[16:01] <Serpardum> kevin__: tru virtualbox
[16:01] <Serpardum> *try
[16:03] <ign0ramus_> kevin__: get the one from www.virtualbox.org - the one in the repos is limited (because of it's free nature)
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> I think qemu is supposed to be the "best"
[16:05] <Dragnslcr> If you have a newer processor, kvm is also supposed to work really well
[16:05] <kevin__> it has been downloaded from www.virtualbox.org but cannot install it still gives error
[16:06] <p3tre> hi
[16:06] <Cedna> right
[16:06] <Cedna> qemu more faster than past
[16:06] <kevin__> i downloaded amd 64x virtual box
[16:06] <p3tre> can i ask something about my kubuntu 9.4?
[16:06] <kevin__> as i have i7 processor
[16:07] <p3tre> i have a little problem whit my player
[16:07] <p3tre> on youtube
[16:08] <p3tre> in full screen  slows
[16:08] <Cedna> p3tre, on konqueror?
[16:09] <p3tre> in know the name  kubuntu 9.4 KDE
[16:09] <p3tre> i`m a new user of linux
[16:10] <Cedna> hmm.
[16:10] <p3tre> when is minimized i see clear the video
[16:10] <Cedna> try in firefox. konqueror's ns-plugin wrapper is slower.
[16:11] <p3tre> aaaaaaaaaaaa
[16:11] <p3tre> i use firefox
[16:11] <p3tre> same problem
[16:12] <p3tre> i can`t watch the video in full scren but audio it`s runing correctly
[16:12] <Cedna> trying another video? but still have same problem?
[16:12] <p3tre> yes
[16:12] <Cedna> hm..
[16:13] <p3tre> i have sm player for movies
[16:13] <p3tre> but there it`s all ok
[16:13] <Cedna> i think you was watching video in HD, or plasma's some widget or kwin's some effect make does problems.
[16:14] <Cedna> it correctly work in here.
[16:15] <p3tre> i watch the video normal not in HD  but same problem
[16:15] <p3tre> the internet connection is good ,,,
[16:15] <p3tre> i don`t know what to do
[16:17] <DaskreeCH> kevin__: Why don't you install from the repos?
[16:18] <p3tre> what is repos ?
[16:18] <DaskreeCH> !repos
[16:18] <DaskreeCH> p3tre: Try kill plasma :) might help
[16:19] <p3tre> how ?
[16:19] <DaskreeCH> open a konsole and type kquitapp plasma
[16:19] <Cedna> you installed video driver?
[16:19] <p3tre> yes
[16:19] <DaskreeCH> Your background etc should disappaear
[16:20] <DaskreeCH> try run the video full screen and see if it's still slow
[16:20] <p3tre> damn
[16:20] <p3tre> and now how i find mozilla
[16:20] <p3tre>  :D
[16:20] <DaskreeCH> Alt+tab ? :)
[16:20] <DaskreeCH> Wait mozilla was closed?
[16:20] <p3tre> yes
[16:20] <p3tre> :P
[16:20] <DaskreeCH> alt+F2 -> firefox
[16:21] <DaskreeCH> Linux is great :)
[16:21] <p3tre> how i put the plasma back ?
[16:22] <DaskreeCH> p3tre: just type plasma in konsole
[16:24] <p3tre> same problem
[16:24] <p3tre> whit no plasma
[16:25] <DaskreeCH> p3tre: ok I was just wondering if it was a CPU issue
[16:25] <cabrey> I'm new to KDE, how can I customize it? I've looked everywhere, but can't find any settings app or collection of settings panels
[16:25] <DaskreeCH> The new flash is stupidly CPU intensive and sometimes stripping out larger processes helps
[16:25] <DaskreeCH> cabrey: try system settings
[16:25] <zer0o> trying to mount my burner it says "incorrect invocation or permissions"
[16:25] <zer0o> what does that mean?
[16:26] <cabrey> DaskreeCH, wow how did I miss that? thanks!
[16:26] <DaskreeCH> it means very broadly that either you called it wrong or you called it correctly but you don't have the right to mount it
[16:27] <zer0o> well, so how do i solve it?
[16:27] <zer0o> is there a way to find my burner UIID so im not gonna call it wrong?
[16:28] <DaskreeCH> Well how are you mounting it?
[16:28] <zer0o> the secondo message was "mount: no medium found" is kubuntu trying to talk with his dead granny? :d
[16:29] <zer0o> i did from a terminal, now im trying from system settings, but there's no way
[16:29] <DaskreeCH> Kubuntu is a her!
[16:29] <DaskreeCH> What command are you using?
[16:29] <p3tre> pffffffffffff
[16:29] <zer0o> even if till yesterday it was working perfectly
[16:29] <davidjheinrich> button
[16:29] <zer0o> alright i gave a "sudo mount /dev/scd0"
[16:29] <DaskreeCH> and there is a disc in there?
[16:29] <davidjheinrich>  how do I find out what Ubuntu calls my various keyboard keys?
[16:29] <DaskreeCH> !keymap
[16:30] <davidjheinrich> i.e., the "-" on numberpad is called "NumpadMinus"
[16:30] <DaskreeCH> dumb bot
[16:30] <DaskreeCH> Oh umm xmod I think
[16:30] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: xmodmap
[16:30] <zer0o> DaskreeCH: i'll make u a pastebin with all the commands and output ive given and received, this way it'll be quicker, just give me 2 mins :D
[16:30] <DaskreeCH> xmodmap That's it :)
[16:30] <DaskreeCH> Great
[16:30]  * ign0ramus__ high-fives DaskreeCH
[16:30] <p3tre> somoeone have a solution ore opinion for my problem?
[16:31] <supernix> Hiya gang
[16:31] <supernix> sup
[16:31] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: yea, that's like it...but I want to find out what he [ and ] keys are called
[16:31] <ign0ramus__> p3tre: i'll always have an opinion, not always a solution ;)
[16:31] <DaskreeCH> p3tre: You are on Jaunty I assume?
[16:32] <Cedna> run konsole, type glxgears.
[16:32] <p3tre> jaunty is ?
[16:32] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: a cheap-o way to do it (if you only need to know a couple) is to go in System Settings, and act as if you're going to set a keyboard shortcut
[16:33] <p3tre> !Jaunty
[16:33] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: when you click the trigger button, it will tell you the name of the key
[16:33] <p3tre> yes
[16:33] <p3tre> ubuntu 9.04
[16:33] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: but xmodmap doesn't do that?  sadly, i'm at work and have no linux to check :(
[16:33] <Mamarok> p3tre: are you using Gnome?
[16:34] <supernix> I am working on moving a partition from one to another and enlarging the partition I copied the original using Gparted and pasted it to the new partition and enlarged it now I am curious should I now delete the original partition and enlarge the newer partition even more
[16:34] <p3tre> !Gnome
[16:34] <p3tre> yes
[16:34] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: xmodmap just shows the control keys (CTRL, SHIFT, SUPER, ALT) for me
[16:34] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich:  try xev then
[16:34] <Serpardum> what is the command to see how much free space my hd has left?
[16:34] <Mamarok> p3tre: you should ask in #ubuntu then, here is support for Kubuntu with the KDE desktop
[16:34] <Mamarok> Serpardum: df -h
[16:35] <Serpardum> thanks
[16:35] <p3tre> sorry
[16:35] <Mamarok> yaw :)
[16:35] <p3tre> here is the first channel i join :D
[16:35] <Mamarok> p3tre: no problem :)
[16:35] <DaskreeCH> p3tre: :-) Do you have  a K in the lower left corner of your screen?
[16:36] <Mamarok> DaskreeCH: hm, didn't he say Gnome?
[16:36] <DaskreeCH> Mamarok: He doesn't know the difference
[16:36] <DaskreeCH> assuming tha p3tre is a he
[16:36] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: the keyboard & mouse system settings just calls [ as "["...can that be right?
[16:37] <supernix> hmmmmmmmmmmm no answers
[16:37] <Mamarok> supernix: patience :)
[16:37] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: no, something's wrong there...xsetwacom needs calls the - on the numberpad as "NumpadMinus"
[16:37] <supernix> lol k
[16:37] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: i guess... what did you think it was called?
[16:38] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: see above...the number pad - key is called "NumberpadMinus" by xsetwacom
[16:38] <supernix> ohm ohm ohm meditation is your friend ohm
[16:38] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: did you try running 'xev' yet?
[16:38] <Mamarok> supernix: please, behave
[16:38] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: how do I do that to get the names of keys?
[16:38] <DaskreeCH> Mamarok: Also p3tre stopped and started plasma earlier so I'm guessing probably not Gnome
[16:39] <Mamarok> oh, missed that one then, sry
[16:39] <blank__> helo..
[16:40] <DaskreeCH> hi blank__
[16:40] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: i'm not certain, just recalling apps i've used before to map keys.  again, i'm in front of a windows box :(
[16:40] <DaskreeCH> supernix: We can't possibly give you an answer based on that
[16:40] <supernix> DaskreeCH: what info do you need then ?
[16:40]  * DaskreeCH steps away from the possibly infected ign0ramus
[16:40] <blank__> anyone speak bahasa?? =)
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> supernix: What are you intending to do with the partitions and what you are expecting to keep on them
[16:41] <DaskreeCH>  how big are they now?
[16:41] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: ahh, I just press the key and it tells me...but it's telling me different things than what work from xsetwacom...for xsetwacom, specifying the numberpad - as "NumberpadMinus", and not just as '-"
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> bahasa? Umm not sure
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> !bahasa
[16:41] <Mamarok> blank__: what country are you from?
[16:41] <DaskreeCH> Well ubottu doesn't
[16:41] <DarthArachides> blank__: aren't there two bahasas? malaysia and indonesia?
[16:42] <blank__> indonesia
[16:42] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: what are you using this info for?  many times you can use the ID# of the key instead of whatever name it may have...
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> !canada
[16:42] <ForgeAus> hey all :)
[16:42] <supernix> Well my original partition was almost full so I reduced the windows partition then copied the linux partition and pasted it to the newer space then enlarged the partition to fill the new space
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> !ca
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> :-D
[16:42] <Mamarok> !id | blank__
[16:42] <supernix> My intent is to use the newer larger partition in the future
[16:42] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: oh wait, it does tell me a name...but it tells me "KP_Subtract" for numberpad -...but with xsetwacom, "NumberpadMinus" works...what's going on?
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> supernix: ok so how much space did that give you ?
[16:42] <DarthArachides> !in
[16:42] <DaskreeCH> That's india
[16:43] <supernix> over 400gigs
[16:43] <zer0o> DaskreeCH: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199355/ here it is, the longest pastebin who've ever seen :D HELP ME MAN, PLEAAASE :D LOL
[16:43] <ForgeAus> is there a repo with secondlife?
[16:43] <DaskreeCH> supernix: Ha ha Well I guess you can increase that more but that should be more than fine
[16:43] <zer0o> i'm going for a fag, my brain's burning... brb
[16:43] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: xev will give you the key code of a key as well as the keysym#
[16:44] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: I'm doing it for setting up my Wacom Bamboo tablet buttons
[16:44] <davidjheinrich> see http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=7232505&postcount=175
[16:44] <supernix> I am wondering DaskreeCH if it is ok now to just delete the original linux partition that I copied?
[16:44] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: What's the problem? It's mounting correctly
[16:44] <supernix> I am running off of a LiveCD session of course currently
[16:44] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: i.e., to assign a button the the number-pad -, this works: xsetwacom set "Wacom Bamboo pad" Button4 "core key  NumpadMinus "
[16:44] <DaskreeCH> supernix: Likely no
[16:45] <DaskreeCH> Unless you want to reset back up grub
[16:45] <ForgeAus> !secondlife
[16:45] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: please, stay on topic
[16:45] <DaskreeCH> ForgeAus: I think there is but you probably want th full client anyway
[16:46] <DaskreeCH> try getdeb.net
[16:46] <DaskreeCH> They package it and i thikn they have a repo
[16:47] <DaskreeCH> ForgeAus: actually http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=711282
[16:47] <DaskreeCH> Seems a lot nicer
[16:47] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: i see what you mean now, but i'm curious as to where the author got those names
[16:47] <supernix> I see DaskreeCH so I need to redo grub if I delete the original partition
[16:48] <DaskreeCH> supernix: Yes grub is pointing to that partition to start up the computer if you blow it away it's kinda hard to find it :)
[16:48] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: me too, but they seem to work...I tried them for the buttons (numpad -, +, F12, ESC) and all work
[16:48] <supernix> DaskreeCH: that was another thing I was curious of is how many other programs might hiccup due to the change in partitions?
[16:49] <blank__> any1 know how i can join to the ubuntu indonesia???
[16:49] <DaskreeCH> Not a lot I would think the way the UNIX file system is setup they mostly wouldn't care as long as your /etc/fstab is set up correctly
[16:49] <zer0o> DaskreeCH: no it's not
[16:49] <DaskreeCH> blank__: type /join #ubuntu-id
[16:49] <supernix> hmmm ok
[16:50] <Mamarok> blank__: type /join #ubuntu-id
[16:50] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: it said it mounted read only
[16:50] <blank__> thx
[16:50] <DaskreeCH> supernix: in anycase if the system is up you can easily fix those programs. I'd say fix grub first and make sure that it boots then you can blow away the partition
[16:51] <zer0o> DaskreeCH: yes but it won't let me see whatz inside of any cd or dvd i put in and plus is not a cd reader, its a burner!!
[16:52] <DaskreeCH> It will still mount read only.
[16:52] <blank__> daskreeCH nothing happen
[16:52] <DaskreeCH> Root needs to enable a special SCSI command to write to it and that happens when it needs to write. Normal mortals can't write to teh CD so it's readonly
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> blank__: You should have another channel or buffer <----- there saying #ubuntu-id
[16:53] <blank__> oke it work thx
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> You can click on it
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> :-D
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> Sure
[16:53] <blank__> yes i have
[16:53] <blank__> thx again man
[16:53] <DaskreeCH> Sure
[16:54] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: So there is nothing in /media ?
[16:54] <zer0o> there is but it won't let me open it
[16:55] <DaskreeCH> you can't cd into it etc ?
[16:55] <manu_> i'm unable to use web browser. i setup this new network myself and 'm new to linux. any help...please..
[16:56] <ign0ramus__> davidjheinrich: did you try "xinput" like the author has been using?
[16:56] <manu_> no...? whats that?
[16:56] <DaskreeCH> manu_: that wasn't for you
[16:56] <amgarching> could anybody ping 129.187.157.200 and tell me if it is reachable?
[16:57] <DaskreeCH> manu_: Your network isn't connected to the internet?
[16:57] <ign0ramus__> amgarching: pings fine from this machine
[16:58] <manu_> then how i using this?
[16:58] <zer0o> yes
[16:58] <DaskreeCH> manu_: I dunno :)
[16:58] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: can you sudo ls what's inside
[16:59] <DaskreeCH> manu_: what happend with your browser?
[16:59] <amgarching> ign0ramus__:  strange, i cannot ping it from the only remote location I have access to. Could you please try again, now with firewall enabled again?
[17:00] <zer0o> there's nothing inside
[17:00] <ign0ramus__> amgarching: i'm at work on a windows box.  but ping returns back no packet loss (good)
[17:00] <manu_> its not at all connecting... says connection error
[17:00] <ign0ramus__> also, it is now lunch time bbl
[17:00] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: ok what was the last Mount command you ran?
[17:00] <ForgeAus> ohhh thats different I suddenly went to Kubuntu Server! must have installed/needed the server package for something!
[17:00] <zer0o> mount /dev/sdc0
[17:01] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: which shuld mount to /media/cdrom0
[17:02] <DaskreeCH> if hal is invoked you should have a /media/cdrom as well
[17:02] <zer0o> ive tried that too, same thing
[17:02] <zer0o> yes yes there is
[17:02] <manu_> bro, if my connection hav an error,how can i talk to you?
[17:03] <DaskreeCH> manu_: not sure. can you ping a site by name? ping www.kubuntu.org
[17:03] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: Hmm that is wondrous then
[17:03] <manu_> yes....!
[17:04] <DaskreeCH> manu_: ah umm then your browser is being bad. Try a new browser ?
[17:05] <manu_> let me try that...thanks bro..
[17:05] <BluesKaj> zer0o, /dev/cdrom0 ?
[17:05] <DaskreeCH> zer0o: I'm guessing mount | grep cdr shows nothing ?
[17:06] <davidjheinrich> ign0ramus: I think xinput is just for the wacom pad stuff
[17:06] <zer0o> yes, nothing
[17:15] <draik> Hello everyone. I need help with my desktop's networking issue. It appears that it continues to disconnect itself randomly. It will not go online, but keeps the IP, but cannot ping the router. I've changed CAT-5 and port location on the router to no success.
[17:16] <DaskreeCH_> what network card?
[17:16] <draik> eth0
[17:16] <draik> It is built-in
[17:17] <draik> Motherboard is Abit VT7
[17:17] <DaskreeCH_> right what chipset is it using?
[17:17] <DaskreeCH_> sudo lshw -C network
[17:18] <draik> One sec, I was just rebooting the desktop so it can go online again, if even for just a second.
[17:20] <draik> DaskreeCH_: http://pastebin.com/f4f9c5721
[17:20] <mysteriousknight> hey, i'm having trouble with my audio, i have a usb headset, i can listen to music, but none of my games' sound works on it
[17:20] <mysteriousknight> pleaze help
[17:20] <mysteriousknight> please
[17:20] <DaskreeCH_> draik: You reboot? Why not just restart the networking stack ?
[17:21] <draik> DaskreeCH_: How do I do that?
[17:21] <DaskreeCH_> sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart
[17:21] <DaskreeCH_> there is generally very very few reasons to restart a *nix machine
[17:21] <mysteriousknight> please help me guys
[17:21] <DaskreeCH_> mysteriousknight: Be paitent
[17:22] <DaskreeCH_> !audio
[17:22] <mysteriousknight> thank you
[17:24] <draik> Thank you DaskreeCH_ , but I still need to find out why it keeps on randomly disconnecting. I see it happen almost > 95% of the time when I do the 'sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade'
[17:24] <DaskreeCH_> ok check to see if you still have a ip address when it happens
[17:24] <draik> DaskreeCH_: Yes, it always does.
[17:24] <DaskreeCH_> has one?
[17:25] <draik> DaskreeCH_: Yes, it will always have an IP from the router. Won't successfully ping the router, but it has an IP nonetheless.
[17:25] <DaskreeCH_> can it ping itself?
[17:26] <draik> Never tried to ping itself, but I will try the next time it happens.
[17:26] <devD> what is difference in kubuntu, ubuntu and edubuntu?
[17:27] <Dragnslcr> devD- the desktop environment that's installed by default
[17:27] <Dragnslcr> devD- Edubuntu is also has more educational programs installed by default
[17:27] <devD> ok
[17:28] <devD> Dragnslcr, I guess kubuntu must have KDE environment/
[17:28] <Dragnslcr> Yup
[17:29] <devD> ok
[17:29] <Dragnslcr> http://www.ubuntu.com/products/whatisubuntu has links on the side for each edition
[17:41] <DaskreeCH_> I'm installing Edubuntu today :)
[17:43] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I've installed Edubuntu in the past. It is really great for kids.
[17:43] <DaskreeCH_> It is
[17:52] <hokasu_> wer fährt motorrad?
[17:57] <Mamarok> hokasu_: English, please
[18:04] <solifugus> I just set the desktop effect "Desktop Cube" and my kicker bar on the bottom dissappeared.. how can I get it back?
[18:04] <hokasu_> hallo aluno ! wie gehts
[18:05] <Mamarok> hokasu_: English, please!
[18:05] <Mamarok> !de | hokasu_
[18:06] <hokasu_> hallo aluno how are you?
[18:06] <solifugus> anyone know how I can get my button bar on the bottom back?
[18:06] <solifugus> Do I have to reboot?
[18:06] <ubuntu> how to change the volume
[18:06] <ubuntu> in kde?
[18:06] <Mamarok> solifugus: which version of KDE?
[18:06] <solifugus> kde 4
[18:07] <solifugus> the latest with kubuntu
[18:07] <Mamarok> ubuntu: Kmix, the speaker icon in the system tray
[18:07] <solifugus> (latest release)
[18:07] <Mamarok> solifugus: you are still in cube mode?
[18:07] <ubuntu> arf, there is not the icon in systray, but I found it in the menu
[18:07] <solifugus> I noticed pressing enter takes me out of cube...
[18:07] <solifugus> So I am out...
[18:07] <Mamarok> and you have your panel back?
[18:07] <solifugus> It was gone before I ever pressed CTL-F11...
[18:08] <ubuntu> how to change the "blue halo" around the active window
[18:08] <Mamarok> solifugus: no panel at all?
[18:08] <ubuntu> without disabling shadows
[18:08] <solifugus> panel was gone since I clicked on APPLY with Desktop Cube checked
[18:08] <solifugus> no panel
[18:08] <solifugus> none
[18:09] <solifugus> is this only me?
[18:09] <Mamarok> solifugus: can you still switch desktops and/or add widgets on the desktop?
[18:09] <Mamarok> ubuntu: which KDE version?
[18:09] <ubuntu> kde4.x (ubuntu karmic alpha2 -livecd-)
[18:09] <solifugus> actually.. my desktop is gone, too.. just a black background.. with windows on it
[18:09] <solifugus> alt-tab works
[18:10] <solifugus> but alt-tab works only for the current desktop...
[18:10] <solifugus> and I cannot switch desktops withoout Desktop Cube enabled... appearantly
[18:11] <Mamarok> solifugus: then your plasma crashed probably, what if you disable the Desktop cube?
[18:11] <solifugus> Disabling it doesn't change anything except that the cube doesn't work anymore..
[18:11] <solifugus> I probably need to reboot.. don't I?
[18:11] <Mamarok> ubuntu: for karmic support, please visit #ubuntu+1
[18:12] <solifugus> I will reboot.......
[18:12] <Mamarok> solifugus: no, why? you can just restart plasma
[18:12] <solifugus> ok..
[18:12] <Mamarok> !plasma
[18:12] <solifugus> how can I restart plasma?
[18:12] <ubuntu> ok thanks
[18:12] <dwidmann> solifugus: kquitapp plasma && sleep 10 && plasma
[18:12] <ubuntu> is there a kde equivalent for seahorse (for managing gpg keys, and a tool to encrypt and sign without commandline)
[18:12] <ubuntu> ?
[18:13] <Mamarok> ubuntu: kgpg
[18:13] <dwidmann> ubuntu: kgpg maybe?
[18:13] <Mamarok> dwidmann: thx :)
[18:13] <solifugus> OK--I just entered "plasma" in konsole and it's all back..
[18:13] <solifugus> wow.
[18:13] <DaskreeCH_> solifugus: alt+F2 -> plasma
[18:13] <dwidmann> Mamarok: you're welcome?
[18:14] <solifugus> DaskreeCH_: yeah.. did that.. it worked.
[18:14] <ubuntu> ok thank I try
[18:14] <ubuntu> how to know my kde version?
[18:14] <DaskreeCH_> solifugus: small note when 9.10 comes out that changes to plasma-desktop
[18:14] <ubuntu> (4.x, what is x?)
[18:14] <DaskreeCH_> ubuntu: open konqueror and help -> about KDE
[18:14] <Mamarok> ubuntu: if you are in Karmic, it's 4.2.90 I think
[18:14] <solifugus> ok... and 9.10 is coming soon, isn't it?
[18:15] <Mamarok> solifugus: well, soon... in October :)
[18:15] <dwidmann> solid_liq: in late october
[18:15] <ubuntu> ok yes 4.2.90
[18:16] <dwidmann> Guess we're sitting at that halfway point between releases where I start getting ansy and consider breaking my system because stable is boring
[18:16] <Mamarok> dwidmann: it's only Alpha 2 so far :)
[18:17] <Mamarok> it sure will break
[18:17] <dwidmann> I have my every confidence in Ubuntu to have very, very buggy alpha releases :)
[18:17] <ubuntu> ok, I installed kgpg
[18:17] <ubuntu> is it possible to import my private key generated in command line? in gnome it is in .gnupg
[18:17] <ubuntu> is it the same for kgpg? If I put my .gnupg folder it will recognize?
[18:18] <dwidmann> (If I wanted something stable I'd sooner run Debian Sid than a alpha/beta of Ubuntu)
[18:18] <Mamarok> ubuntu: check if you hae a folder there :)
[18:18] <Mamarok> have*
[18:18] <ubuntu> yes I have \o/
[18:19] <ubuntu> is there a way in amarok to remove bookmarks?
[18:19] <Mamarok> ubuntu: gpg is a commandline tool, seahorse and kgpg are just GUI frontends
[18:19] <ubuntu> there is a button to add one, but not to remove
[18:19] <Mamarok> ubuntu: open the bookmark widget
[18:19] <Mamarok> in the context view panel, then you can click on the bookmark and remove it
[18:20] <Mamarok> on the bookmark line in the applet that is
[18:20] <DaskreeCH_> dwidmann: More reasons I like Kubuntu :)
[18:20] <ubuntu> context view panel?
[18:21] <DaskreeCH_> Mamarok: Thanks! I was wondering about that
[18:22] <Mamarok> DaskreeCH_: yaw :)
[18:24] <jeckyjs> my browser has problems, graphic lines, or i dunno any windows bugs or something... how can i fix it?
[18:25] <ubuntu> in ubuntu, when a codec (mp3 for example) or a plugin is missing (flash), it asks for installing it
[18:25] <ubuntu> does kubuntu do the same thing?
[18:25] <ubuntu> because for the moment it never asked to me :(
[18:25] <afeijo> lol I cant post on #apache
[18:26] <DaskreeCH_> ubuntu: It used to I'm not sure if it still does since I have a post install script that takes care of all my needs
[18:31] <manu_> anybody there?
[18:32] <DaskreeCH_> manu_: Yes?
[18:34] <manu_> bro, its still not woking... i can ping and use this Konversation tool...but noting else...
[18:35] <manu_> and the error is "could not connect to host"....
[18:35] <ubuntu> how to disable grouping in kmail?
[18:37] <ubuntu> found (on the 2nd icon from the right)
[18:37] <ForgeAus> no glx in ubuntu-server?
[18:38] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: servers do not use 3D stuff, why should they?
[18:38] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: if you want 3D, isntall a desktop distro :)
[18:38] <ForgeAus> I have both
[18:39] <ForgeAus> just thought I'd log in to ubunutu-server seeing as it appeared on my grub
[18:39] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: that's the krenel you talk about then, not the server distribution
[18:39] <ForgeAus> and I noticed af ew things kde4 missing its fx, (otherwise seems to work fine) and so I tried running glxgears and got an error
[18:39] <Mamarok> kernel*
[18:40] <DaskreeCH_> manu_: Which browser?
[18:40] <ForgeAus> ok... I'll switch kernels tho... but thx anyway
[18:40] <ForgeAus> (can I do that while Kubuntu is running?)
[18:40] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: again, that is normal, as a server is not meant for 3D gui applications, but to administer a server
[18:40] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: no
[18:40] <ForgeAus> ok I'll reboot then
[18:40] <manu_> had konquerr,now installed firefox.
[18:40] <ubuntu> I'm quite impressed by the modernity of kde4… maybe I'll switch to kubuntu in october (9.10)
[18:40] <Mamarok> ForgeAus: the kernel is started at the very beginning, long before the desktop applications
[18:42] <DaskreeCH_> ubuntu: Thanks :-) still expect a few bumps
[18:44] <manu_> had konquerr,now installed firefox
[18:46] <DaskreeCH_> manu_: From the internet I'd assume
[18:48] <manu_> even i put the ip i got from ping to browser......
[18:48] <thierry> hi all
[18:48] <thierry> i asked some help on ubuntu-fr, but no reply
[18:49] <DaskreeCH_> genii: Hello
[18:49] <thierry> can someone help me with ubuntu 9.04 and the vga out of the ibm T23
[18:53] <manu_> bye bro... my power failed....
[18:54] <ragarth> Hiya. I'm running kubuntu 8.10 and am having issues with my printer. I have a lexmark x2600 and it's installed using the inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1 drivers. Under open office it seems to work, but all other applications (gimp, okular, gwenview, kate) fail to print. Unfortunately I don't know where to begin troubleshooting printing issues in linux, and I couldn't find much on google about x2600 and google.
[18:54] <ragarth> and linux* :-p
[18:55] <ricardo__> oi
[18:55] <ricardo__> alguem fala portugues?
[18:55] <ricardo__> alguem fala portugues?????
[18:55] <ricardo__> alguem fala portugues?????
[18:55] <ricardo__> alguem fala portugues?????
[18:55] <FloodBotK2> ricardo__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:56] <thierry> who can help me with ubuntu 9.04
[18:56] <ricardo__> yes
[18:57] <DaskreeCH_> !pt | ricardo__
[19:05] <rom1v> in ubuntu, how to change the mouse behaviour of kde apps?
[19:05] <rom1v> (single clic / double clic)
[19:07] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I think that the few restarts have since made it work (for now) I've been up and running for 110 minutes.
[19:09] <dwidmann> rom1v: systemsettings -> keyboard & mouse -> mouse
[19:09] <thierry> can someone help me with my laptop
[19:09] <draik> DaskreeCH_: Spoke too soon. Now I'm no longer online. Would you like me to ping myself now or just restart the networking stack as aforementioned?
[19:09] <thierry> I need to swith to vga out
[19:10] <thierry> I use ubuntu 9.04 with a ibm t23
[19:10] <dwidmann> ragarth: I feel really sorry for you, using a lexmark printer under linux :( How did you go about setting up the printer?
[19:11] <draik> DaskreeCH_: Never mind, I'm not offline. It's FF that is taking forever and a day to load
[19:12] <ragarth> dwidmann, it was really simple. I downloaded the linux drivers off the lexmark website and installed them. After that, I printed a test page using the lexmark utilities and a page from openoffice. Nothing else seems to work though.
[19:13] <dwidmann> ragarth: Maybe you need to set it up in cups, if possible
[19:13] <dwidmann> ragarth: either go to systemsettings -> printing or open a browser and go to http://localhost:631
[19:14] <DaskreeCH_> draik: sorry got a call do the ping
[19:15] <DaskreeCH_> draik: Ah Ok I wondered about that
[19:15] <ragarth> dwidmann, The loopback works, but for some reason opening systemsettings > printing doesn't work.
[19:16] <dwidmann> ragarth: then roll with the web interface, it works well.
[19:16] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I was intrigued that I could ping myself so then I ping'd Google. That was successful so I kill'd FF and sure enough, it was a delay database response from the site that caused FF to take the blame for this down time on this occurence.
[19:17] <ragarth> dwidmann, go with the flow. :-) Is it possible for openoffice to bypass cups and print directly? Cups can't seem to print a test page, and when I checked the queue, that seems to have been where all my unsuccessful prints were stuck.
[19:17] <dwidmann> ragarth: I thought so
[19:18] <rom1v> dwidmann, I am on ubuntu gnome
[19:19] <rom1v> I would like to configure mouse behavior in kde apps while I am using gnome
[19:20] <dwidmann> rom1v: Same things till applies, try it
[19:20] <rom1v> I installed systemsettings, but it is quite empty
[19:20] <rom1v> http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1245435606.png
[19:21] <rom1v> I would like to configure : mouse behaviour, fonts and theme (to use clearlooks or something like that instead of oxygen, to have a more homogenous system)
[19:22] <dwidmann> rom1v: well, I'm not sure where that module will be, though, I'm almost positive kdebase has it
[19:23] <dwidmann> rom1v: I don't know if there's a more minimal way of getting the bulk of the default system settings modules
[19:23] <rom1v> I just installed kdebase, I still doesn't have all the options
[19:23] <rom1v> it changed nothinh
[19:23] <rom1v> nothing
[19:23] <dwidmann> Hmm
[19:25] <dwidmann> rom1v: which kdebase-* packages do you have installed? (I still think it's probably in one of those)
[19:26] <dwidmann> rom1v: also, try closing systemsettings, running kbuildsycoca4, then running it again
[19:27] <rom1v> doesn't change anything
[19:27] <rom1v> kdebase-bin, kdebase-data,kdebase-plasma, kdebase-runtime, kdebase-runtime-bin-kde4, kdebase-runtime-data, kdebase-runtime-data-common
[19:28] <ionut> hy
[19:28] <rom1v> and another problem, in qtconfig I choose my font and theme (gtk), it has absolutely no effect on kde apps (digikam for example)
[19:28] <dwidmann> rom1v: what about kdelibs packages (if it's not in base, it could be in kdelibs5 or kdelibs-bin)
[19:28] <ionut> hi
[19:28] <rom1v> kdelibs4c2a    kdelibs5       kdelibs5-data  kdelibs-bin    kdelibs-data
[19:28] <ionut> i have a new graphic card,and now i want to install the drivers for it
[19:28] <ionut> how can i do that
[19:28] <ionut> ?
[19:29] <dwidmann> rom1v: change the theme in systemsettings -> appearance
[19:29] <rom1v> I can only configure icon theme
[19:29] <dwidmann> rom1v: also look at the kde-style-qtcurve and kdeartwork-style packages
[19:30] <rom1v> not http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1245436206.png
[19:30] <dwidmann> rom1v: hmm, you're definitely missing a package you need ... question is what
[19:30] <ionut> can anyone tell me how can i install the drivers for a new graphic card?
[19:31] <Mamarok> dwidmann: kdebase-workspace probably
[19:31] <Mamarok> and oxygen packages
[19:31] <dwidmann> Mamarok: that sounds like a good bet
[19:31] <ionut> can anyone tell me how can i install the drivers for a new graphic card?
[19:32] <Mamarok> will drag a lot of KDE thoug, maybe try the oxygen packages first
[19:32] <dwidmann> Mamarok: I've never tried to install a crippled kde before, so I guess I don't have too good a chance at guessing this one
[19:32] <Mamarok> ionut: what graphic card?
[19:32] <ionut> ATI H4350
[19:32] <dwidmann> Mamarok: he's missing most of the systemsettings stuff, he probably needs to drag in a lot of kde
[19:33] <rom1v> even with kdebase-workspae
[19:33] <Mamarok> dwidmann: hm, I remember a forum post about this, moment
[19:33] <rom1v> I have only few settings in systemsettings
[19:34] <rom1v> ah after a kbuildsycoca4 it works :)
[19:34] <thierry> can someone tell me where i can find the power management options in ubuntu 9.04??
[19:34] <compilerwriter> Well synaptic has finished upgrading a bunch of stuff.  Maybe my machine will work better now.
[19:35] <dwidmann> rom1v: awesome  (for the record, kbuildsycoca4 basically redoes a lot of stuf you normally get by logging out/logging back in, and it's much faster than doing that)
[19:35] <karlitos> hi
[19:35] <dwidmann> compilerwriter: what was wrong with it before?
[19:35] <ramez> I have a problem with amarok on Kubuntu 9.04, it wont play any music files, can someone help me with that
[19:36] <dwidmann> ramez: what format of files did you try to play? what error(s) do you get if any?
[19:36] <Mamarok> dwidmann: I found that blog post here: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/make-qt-kde-applications-integrate.html
[19:36] <thierry> help
[19:36] <Mamarok> oh, it woeks now?
[19:37] <ramez> i'm trying to play mp3 files, i dont  get any errors the player just doesnt play the file
[19:37] <Mamarok> !ask | thierry
[19:37] <dwidmann> ramez: install libxine1-ffmpeg and restart amarok
[19:37] <ragarth> dwidmann, lexmark utility will print a testpage just fine, cups will not. If I try to print a testpage with cups I get the message "Can't write page 1 image" I did notice that the file sent by lexmark was a pdf.
[19:37] <Mamarok> ramez: you need to isntall the libxine1-ffmpeg package
[19:37] <ramez> thank you i will try that now
[19:38] <thierry> i try to close the lid of my laptop and use the vga out of the laptop
[19:38] <compilerwriter> dwidmann well at first I was having major windows troubles because I needed to get the nvidia graphics driver instaled.  Finally after some major hoop jumping got that done.  KDE then worked better.  Then I tried to get to KDE 4.2.4 but kpackagekit was crapping out.  Did and apt-get synaptic and now I have upgraded the kernal and whole host of other stuff.  The clean install to Jaunty is turning out to be a nightmar
[19:38] <compilerwriter> before.
[19:38] <ragarth> dwidmann, Ah yes, and setting it as default had no effect.
[19:38] <thierry> but when i do this my pc go into sleep mode
[19:38] <thierry> i search the power management into ubuntu 9.04
[19:39] <thierry> i'am a newbie
[19:39] <dwidmann> ragarth: I've no idea, might want to take this one to the forums and hope for a good answer
[19:39] <rom1v> that's weird, kdebase-workspace doesn't depends on kdebase?
[19:39] <dwidmann> ragarth: (I fought to try to get my old lexmark to work and ended up getting myself an HP)
[19:39] <rom1v> I have no kdebase installed on my desktop, and I am rtying to install kdebase-workspace, it won't install kdebase
[19:40] <ragarth> dwidmann, It's ironic, I could never get the scanner on my hp to work with linux. The scanner on this printer works perfectly.
[19:40] <dwidmann> rom1v: well, the stuff is separated most probably so you can install yourself a minimalistic (crippled) kde
[19:40] <dwidmann> ragarth: hmm, scanning works well on my hp, fortunately
[19:40] <thierry> mamarok, i read your message too late now i will ask my questions in a whole phrase
[19:41] <compilerwriter> dwidmann If I don't throw my hands up in frustration and go back to Ibex I may never try Koala.
[19:41] <dwidmann> ragarth: probably model dependant ... I have a Photosmart C5500 (and my parents have a C5200), both work great
[19:41] <thierry> i try to close the lid of my laptop and use the vga out of the laptop, but when i do this my pc go into sleep mode (i search the power management into ubuntu 9.04)
[19:41] <ragarth> dwidmann, dunno what the hp model was, it's been on loan to my brother for about a year now. :-)
[19:42] <rom1v> dwidmann, do you know if there is a more minimal way to install systemsettings which works correctly?
[19:42] <bipolar_> Is anyone using a AT&T Mercury mobile broadband card with the Network manager? It seems that it's detecting the incorrect tty device for the actual modem.
[19:42] <rom1v> instead of kdebase-workspace (which installs kdm)
[19:42] <bipolar_> it's says ttyUSB3, but it needs to use 4.
[19:42] <dwidmann> rom1v: Umm, not t hat I know of.
[19:43] <Mamarok> thierry: in the system settings, -> advanced Tab -> Power management
[19:43] <Mamarok> you should be able to change your settings there
[19:44] <ragarth> dwidmann, think it's an issue with formats? Is it possible this printer chokes on postscript? :-(
[19:44] <dwidmann> ragarth: I dunno, I suppose anything is a possibility
[19:45] <thierry> thanks mamarok found
[19:45] <Mamarok> thierry: yaw :)
[19:45] <dwidmann> ragarth: did Lexmark have any instructions up? Maybe it will work with lpr?
[19:45] <thierry> ps: ibm t23 and vga out solution found (go into bios and select both outputs for VGA) so simply as that
[19:46] <ramez> it was my first time using the IRC and  that was really helpful !! Thank you
[19:46] <rom1v> dwidmann, I found : kdebase-workspace-bin kdebase-workspace-data \o/
[19:46] <thierry> just for info
[19:46] <ragarth> dwidmann, I'm a printer idiot, what's lpr?
[19:46] <dwidmann> !info lpr
[19:47] <ragarth> dwidmann, Ah, righto. I'll try it. No, the only instructions given from lexmark were to unzip the drivers and sh ./ them.
[19:48] <draik> DaskreeCH_: OK, now the Internet is gone.
[19:48] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I can ping myself just fine
[19:48] <DaskreeCH_> draik: Can You ping your router ?
[19:48] <thierry> my problems are solved
[19:48] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I cannot ping anything else.
[19:48] <thierry> thanks mamarok
[19:49] <draik> DaskreeCH_: Nope
[19:49] <DaskreeCH_> Hmm
[19:49] <DaskreeCH_> genii: Ping :)
[19:49] <Mamarok> thierry: you are welcome :)
[19:49] <dwidmann> Wow, Opera 10b is running pretty good
[19:50] <Mamarok> dwidmann: try arora, it's still beta but runs quite nicely here, not a single crash in 3 days
[19:50] <genii> DaskreeCH_: Ping yourself! The diodes all down my left side are sore.
[19:50] <dwidmann> Mamarok: arora is nice, but the lack of adblock craps on the experience for me
[19:50] <DaskreeCH_> genii: Any idea why you can ping yourself but not say your next hop in the network?
[19:50] <peabody> I'm trying to import some songs into Amarok and fix up their ID3 tags but it's really buggy at handling this, is there a good alternative for fixing up large libraries?
[19:50] <genii> DaskreeCH_: Wrong default gateway?
[19:51] <dwidmann> peabody: try easytag
[19:51] <Mamarok> dwidmann: true, that sucks
[19:51] <DaskreeCH_> genii: no I don't think so it works for a few hours then disappears
[19:51] <dwidmann> peabody: or maybe amarok 1.4
[19:51] <Mamarok> peabody: kid3 or easytag are best IMHO
[19:51] <thierry> bye to all
[19:52] <Mamarok> cu thierry
[19:52] <peabody> thanks I'll check that otu
[19:52] <Mamarok> peabody: also, what Amarok version do you have now?
[19:52] <peabody> Mamarok:  2
[19:52] <genii> DaskreeCH_: Could be a few things. Mis-matched dhcp lease times between client and server... the next hop IP posibly changes.... overheating nic ...
[19:53] <Mamarok> peabody: there is 2.0, 2.0.1, 2.0.2, 2.1.0 and 2.1.1, which of these?
[19:53] <dwidmann> tagging in amarok 2 is sssslllloooowwww as sludg
[19:53] <dwidmann> *e
[19:53] <genii> DaskreeCH_: If a USB adapter, might be going to sleep/power-save mode
[19:53] <Mamarok> dwidmann: depends on your version
[19:53] <DaskreeCH_> draik: Is it a USB adapter ?
[19:53] <peabody> 2.0.2
[19:53] <dwidmann> Mamarok: hmm, I suppose
[19:53] <DaskreeCH_> genii: No it's built in the MB
[19:53] <draik> DaskreeCH_: No, it's a built-in NIC to the MoBo.
[19:53] <Mamarok> peabody: you reayl should upgrade then, 2.1 is in the jaunty-backports now
[19:54] <dwidmann> Mamarok: 2.1 here
[19:54] <Mamarok> realy"
[19:54] <genii> draik , DaskreeCH_ My Gateway laptop ha a RTL8187 which is on the mb but is ALSO a USB one
[19:54] <draik> It's sporatic. Sometimes I can't even connect when I login, other times I feel like I have a small window when I first login.
[19:54] <Mamarok> dwidmann: we just released 2.1.1 :)
[19:54] <Mamarok> dwinand if you like breaking things, try a local install of 2.2-SVN :)
[19:55] <Mamarok> or better: Neon
[19:55] <dwidmann> I think last time I tried to build amarok myself, I ran into issues related to qtscript or something, bu t I guess I'll try again later (gotta go to work in an hour or so)
[19:55] <draik> DaskreeCH_: I tried 'sudo /etc/init.d/networking restart' and that did not work.
[19:55] <peabody> I just refreshed my package manager and I don't see it.. maybe because I'm in  europe?
[19:55] <dwidmann> wait, 2.1.1 is in backports, will try that first
[19:56] <draik> genii: This issue started around mid-8.10
[19:57] <genii> draik: If you do:  sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0          (assuming eth0 as the name)   are you able after that to ping gateway/ next hop?
[19:57] <draik> One sec while I try that out.
[20:00] <dwidmann> Mamarok: hmm, looks like now when I try to tag w/4.1.1, it's at least as slow, with the added potential of hanging sometimes
[20:01] <Mamarok> 2.1.1 you mean? Yes, that's because it rewrites the collection directly, that's why an external tagger is much faster for now
[20:01] <Mamarok> and both easytag and kid3 can tag automatically
[20:01] <ragarth> dwidmann, I posted to the forum, thank you for trying to help. Be well.
[20:02] <rom1v> what is the name of this application : http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1245438153.png
[20:05] <peabody> EasyTag also sucks pretty bad at writing multiple tags at once. Can I really only click one file at a time? If I select an entire album, write in the album name and press save, they all move off the UNTITLED list momentarily, but only one track gets saved the rest end up back there when it refreshes
[20:06] <peabody> also when I try to close it wants to write to files that I've never accessed, scary stuff
[20:10] <dwidmann> Mamarok: seeing as you seem to be in the know, do you have any idea when speedy tagging might be coming back to amarok? also when we might see external mysql support again?
[20:11] <Mamarok> dwidmann: well, we would need somebody work on this, and so far nobody really does
[20:11] <dwidmann> I would if I knew what I was doing
[20:11] <Mamarok> and we are discussing external mysql right now, the problem is to get multithreading, so InnDB is out
[20:11] <Mamarok> we need MARIA asap
[20:11] <peabody> wow kid3 is nice and very fast also seems to work like a champ :)
[20:12] <Mamarok> or whatever name is currently in the pipeline for the future
[20:13] <rom1v> hi again
[20:14] <rom1v> I installed systemsettings and I am able to change kde-apps fonts under gnome
[20:14] <peabody> The only thing I don't like about kid3 is that as far as I can tell, I can't sort the tree on the right by Artist/Album/track name
[20:14] <l0wk3y> hello
[20:14] <rom1v> but the rendering is not the same (I can understand that), the problem is that firefox uses the rendering of kde configuration
[20:14] <rom1v> instead of the one in gnome configuration
[20:14] <rom1v> how to restore the default firefox fonts?
[20:15] <draik> genii: I just realized I've been disconnected.
[20:15] <Mamarok> peabody: well, that should be in the settings, no?
[20:16]  * Mamarok prefers easytag
[20:16] <draik> genii: What else would you suggest? I don't know if you got my last messages about the results.
[20:17] <peabody> I don't see it
[20:17] <peabody> but I did find the import from gnudb, that's nice
[20:18] <peabody> I didn't even have the album tagged, and it found it and copied the id tag over
[20:18] <peabody> but it only did v1 tag and not v2
[20:19] <genii> draik: What is the adapter name? eth0 wlan0 ath0       etc?
[20:19] <draik> eth0
[20:21] <peabody> Mamarok: was alot of this library stuff fixed in 2.1?? Because even rescanned my library is crap, double entries and whathaveyou
[20:21] <genii> draik: So you were using that same one to connect here I suppose when I gave you the release/renew IP commands
[20:21] <peabody> I look at the file details and they are the same filename, but they appear in the library twice.. not cool
[20:22] <GibsonGuy> is this where the kubuntu wizards are to be found? :)
[20:22] <draik> genii: I'm messaging you from my server (irssi) and running what you provide on the affected desktop.
[20:22] <Mamarok> oops, wrong channel, sry
[20:23] <Mamarok> GibsonGuy: hi :)
[20:23] <GibsonGuy> Mamarok: hi :)
[20:24] <draik> genii: I've always used eth0 and I don't know what is causing it to suddenly disconnect at random points.
[20:24] <genii> draik: Ah, OK, good then.
[20:24] <peabody> Mamarok: I just changed my source from Germany to US server and it still shows 2.02 as being current.. what am I missing? Do I need unsupported updates enabled or soemthing?
[20:24] <genii> draik: When it seems random/sporadic that usually indicates some hardware issue (overheating, cabling etc)
[20:24] <Mamarok> peabody: you probably have to activate the backports repository
[20:25] <peabody> o
[20:25] <Mamarok> peabody: and backports are officially supported :)
[20:25] <genii> draik: Did not get the output of those dhclient commands, incidentally (you must have been disconnected already)
[20:26] <peabody> so why is it 2.0.2 only in the pre-release and 2.1 in the backports? That doesn't make sense :p
[20:26] <Mamarok> peabody: pre-release?
[20:26] <Mamarok> peabody: you are running 9.04, aren't you?
[20:26] <draik> genii: dhclient command gave this at the end: "No working leases in peristent database - sleeping".
[20:27] <peabody> Mamarok: yeah
[20:27] <genii> draik: It means it was unable to contact the router/machine which hands out the dhcp numbers. Cabling may be suspect
[20:28] <draik> genii: The cable is good as it previously belonged to my laptop, which has never had a network issue. As for overheating, it can be a cold night when I boot the computer (after being off for at least 12 hours) and I don't get online.
[20:28] <peabody> unless I put 9.10 on my laptop..
[20:28] <Mamarok> peabody: 2.0.2 was the available version at feature freeze for the Jaunty release, so newer versions end up in the backports
[20:28] <Mamarok> peabody: don't, Karmic is alpha nad will probably still break a lot till it is ready
[20:28] <Mamarok> and*
[20:28] <GibsonGuy> Anyone want to take a guess at why a fresh kubuntu install would completely freeze the machine on login? Video driver has been ruled out.
[20:28] <draik> genii: If I reboot now, it will connect. No other changes take place, hardware-wise.
[20:28] <peabody> yeah, I've got 9.04
[20:28] <genii> draik: Then the next suspect is the router/box/whatever that gives out the dhcp numbers
[20:30] <draik> genii: Ok. No issues with laptop, netbook or server on it, just the desktop. It is, however, 3 and a half years old (based on purchase date).
[20:32] <draik> genii: Would it be OK for me to restart the desktop at this point or do you want to try something else?
[20:33] <kde185> peabody: http://www.kubuntu.org/news/amarok-2.1
[20:33] <genii> draik: Restart if you feel it needed :) I'm still suspicious of the cord. Maybe try it on one of the other boxes and see if it has issues getting a number as well
[20:34] <draik> Sure, I can swap it really quickly for you.
[20:35] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: what do you need to know?
[20:36] <draik> genii: I am using the one from the laptop which has been known to work for the past 2+ years. What would you like me to do/execute?
[20:37] <genii> draik: Do again the:   sudo dhclient -r eth0 && sudo dhclient eth0       and see if it times out again, or else gets a number this time
[20:37] <GibsonGuy> Riddel: Trying to install on a particular machine, after you install and login
[20:37] <draik> genii: Sure thing. It is running right now.
[20:37] <peabody> that was fun
[20:37] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: the very first time it logs in then after a second it freezes
[20:37] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Ctl+Alt+npthing will even work!
[20:37] <peabody> why is Synaptic gtk, it's SO GOOD
[20:38] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Thereafter if you reboot, it freezes like that the second you log in
[20:38] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: I've ruled out video driver, (nothing installed in xorg)
[20:38] <draik> genii: Same error: "No working leases in persistent database - sleeping"
[20:38] <faruk> hello cpu freq utils dosnt start at boot
[20:38] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Is there some way to go in text mode and delete the last session and set it to use a new session?
[20:38] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: That's the only try I got :(
[20:39] <genii> draik: OK. Was it plugged into router at same place the notebook uses it from, or the plug the previous cord used?
[20:40] <draik> genii: All I did was disconnect the laptop, then switch the cable plug on the desktop. Nothing changed on the router.
[20:40] <genii> draik: OK. We've eliminated then the cord and router as far as I'm concerned as possible fail points.
[20:41] <genii> draik: Do you have ethtool installed on that box?
[20:41] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: just because there's nothing in xorg.conf doesn't mean it's not an X issue (although doesn't mean it is of course)
[20:41] <draik> Yes
[20:41] <draik> genii: Yes, I do
[20:41] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: you should be able to do control-alt+F1 from the login screen to get to a command line
[20:42] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Right I've done that, but don't really know what to do from there
[20:43] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: less .xsession-errors  may tell you what it was doing
[20:43] <Riddell> rm -r .kde   will reset all your KDE settings
[20:43] <Riddell> contorl-alt-F7 to get back to the login screen
[20:43] <genii> draik: Do you have a way to get the result of:  sudo ethtool eth0                 onto a pastebin? (maybe put the output to a file on a usb stick, transfer & paste, etc)
[20:43] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Ok, booting to try it...
[20:44] <draik> Let me check
[20:44] <draik> Let me plug the laptop back in and we can go from there. Just a moment, genii.
[20:45]  * genii makes more coffee
[20:48] <draik> genii: http://pastebin.com/d6f0ca915
[20:49] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: last thing it appears to have ever tried was to launch knotify4
[20:50] <yao_ziyuan> can anyone name a few kde3 apps still in today's kubuntu?
[20:50] <yao_ziyuan> k3b, knetworkmanager, and?
[20:50] <yao_ziyuan> i want a kde3 app that has an about box
[20:50] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: k3b has
[20:51] <yao_ziyuan> Mamarok: want another
[20:52] <genii> draik: Interesting that it says a link is detected.
[20:52] <yao_ziyuan> what was the kde3-based irc client?
[20:52] <genii> yao_ziyuan: konversation
[20:52] <yao_ziyuan> but i see it's kde4-based now
[20:53] <draik> genii: Even when it initially disconnects, it keeps the IP address. I can ping the IP address I received from the router just fine, but I cannot ping the router itself, or anything else.
[20:53] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: the last KDE3 before we switched was 3.5.10, if it's what you are looking for
[20:53] <Mamarok> +that
[20:53] <yao_ziyuan> Mamarok: i want to find a kde3 app still in kubuntu 9.04 that has an about box, beside k3b.
[20:53] <Lillymon> I'm being completely ignored in #ubuntu, so I'll ask here. sudo apt-get upgrade tells me "The following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-common linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic". I never ASKED apt-get to hold any updates back, it just refuses to install these. Why?
[20:53] <yao_ziyuan> besides
[20:53] <genii> draik: From one of the other boxes, does pinging the address of that box get a reply?
[20:54] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: must admit I'm a bit stumped.  one thing you could try is turning off compositing
[20:54] <Riddell> echo -e "[Compositing]\nEnabled=false" > ~/.kde/share/config/kwinrc
[20:54] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: Oh wait, I had two installs, one I trashed, but this "better" one...
[20:54] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: is freaking out at the end because a QObject is being deleted while in its handler
[20:54] <Mamarok> Lillymon: there are missing dependencies probably, just wait a few more hours then udate and upgrade again
[20:54] <draik> genii: Right now, the desktop does not have an IP, but I will ping the IP which it did have.
[20:54] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: It is kmixctrl being initialized
[20:54] <Lillymon> Mamarok: I've been waiting 24 hours already.
[20:55] <genii> draik: No, if it has none, don't bother
[20:55] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: The bug might be in phonon
[20:55] <Mamarok> yao_ziyuan: you want to know what exactly?
[20:55] <draik> genii: OK.
[20:55] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: maybe if I disable my audio device?
[20:55] <hunter__> i istall a new DVC andcr-rom hardware. but i dont get any data if i put a dvd in. do i have to install some drivers? anybody help?
[20:55] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: can try
[20:55] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: also worth trying  apt-get remove pulseaudio
[20:55] <hunter__> dvd and cd-rom i ment
[20:56] <Mamarok> Lillymon: well, I no nothing about your configuration and your sources.list, can't tell anything without :)
[20:56] <yao_ziyuan> Mamarok: testing a qtcurve bug for qtcurve's author
[20:56] <Riddell> GibsonGuy: sudo rm /usr/bin/kmixctrl   would be a quick way to confim that it is the problem
[20:56] <Lillymon> Hoe about another question. Why are Canonical so unrelentingly imcompetent when it comes to their own repositories?
[20:56] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: what about kmixer?
[20:57] <Mamarok> Lillymon: hold on, I asked you for more information, don't put the blame on other befoer we even know what's about!
[20:57] <hunter__> and why i cannot install anything anymore.
[20:57] <hunter__> its says, package not found
[20:57] <Lillymon> I've had this sort of problem before. VirtualBox was broken for about three months because no one could be bothered to approve a patch to its kernel module.
[20:57] <Walzmyn> how can I get the network manager to connect to my wireless router at startup without having to give the router password or sign in to kdewallet?
[20:58] <Mamarok> Lillymon: well, provide a patch then, if it's that easy...
[20:58] <draik> genii: When I click on NetworkManager, it states that I am connected and have an IP.
[20:58] <Lillymon> Mamarok: "Was", past tense.
[20:58] <genii> draik: It lies, obviously :)
[20:58] <hunter__> can somebody please tell me why i cannot install anything anymore
[20:59] <draik> genii: Yes, of course. Just sharing that in case it may be the culprit to some crossed information.
[20:59] <genii> draik: If you can get into a pastebin result of:    sudo lshw -C network          will tell us driver name and other stuff
[20:59] <draik> genii: Sure. Just a moment
[20:59] <Mamarok> Lillymon: so you want help or not? Tell me your configuration and put sources.list in a pastebin please
[21:00] <hunter__> heeeello???
[21:00] <genii> draik: Work requires me, I may seem laggy getting back to you. Don't worry I haven't abandoned :)
[21:00] <Mamarok> !patience > hunter__
[21:00] <hunter__> ok..
[21:01] <hunter__> but i am not that patience if something dont work like has to.. :-)
[21:01] <GibsonGuy> Riddell: bah! same prob, going to try removing the last session...
[21:01] <Walzmyn> hunter__: we need more info, what are you trying to install and what is it telling you.
[21:01] <_Whipper> ;)
[21:01] <hunter__> well, now i tried to install a normal update
[21:01] <Lillymon> Mamarok: Alright, tell me where sources.list is first. This isn't an everyday task.
[21:02] <hunter__> i tried days before with tor and it did not function, the update function but not today anymore
[21:02] <Mamarok> Lillymon: it's in /etc/apt/sources.list, the pastebin is in http://paste.ubuntu.com
[21:02] <hunter__> find: "sources.list": No such file or directory
[21:03] <hunter__> hä? what is this
[21:03] <hunter__> what happen here
[21:03] <Mamarok> hunter__: that was not for you, but if you have no sources list, you can't update of course :/
[21:03] <Walzmyn> hunter__: so, you have updates, but they will not install?
[21:03] <draik> genii: http://pastebin.com/d6afd29f4
[21:03] <ubuntu> I really need help this time
[21:03] <hunter__> es, and anything else as well
[21:03] <hunter__> i mean, is also not working
[21:03] <oSiRiDe-iRc|6003> ciao
[21:03] <oSiRiDe-iRc|6003> !lista
[21:03] <hunter__> but i had
[21:04] <ubuntu> i have never had this much problwm with a pc before here we go
[21:04] <ubuntu> my sis got a toshiba nb100
[21:04] <Lillymon> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199537/
[21:04] <ubuntu> a very tiny notebook with no cdrom
[21:04] <Lillymon> I see nothing out of the ordinary myself.
[21:04] <Walzmyn> hunter__: open up konsole
[21:04] <hunter__> well, where is my sources.list and why is it goen, and how can i fix it?
[21:05] <hunter__> open
[21:05] <ubuntu> then she asked me to reinstall windos xp on it, cos somehing had happen and it had crashed
[21:05] <Walzmyn> hunter__: type: sudo apt-get update
[21:05] <hunter__> ok, why is it now installing?
[21:05] <Lillymon> It'd be nice to have Amarok 2.1 here, because Amarok 2.0 is terrible.
[21:05] <Mamarok> Lillymon: and you are using Jaunty?
[21:05] <hunter__> if i type sudo apt-get install update, nothing happen
[21:05] <ubuntu> the toshiba nb100 comes with a cd, for recovery but as none cdrom is in the pc then itäs of no use
[21:05] <Walzmyn> hunter__: it's not installing, it's reading the database
[21:06] <Lillymon> Mamarok: Yes I am.
[21:06] <Mamarok> Lillymon: I mean Gnome?
[21:06] <ubuntu> i tried using the installed aoutorecovery when restarting but it crashes
[21:06] <Lillymon> No, I'm using KDE.
[21:06] <genii> draik: Damn. All looks fine there as well. No issues I'm aware of with the via-rhine driver either.
[21:06] <hunter__> oh damn, sure. now, of course, jesus, i am so dump sometimes
[21:06] <Mamarok> oh, then you should have come here in the first place anyway :)
[21:06] <ubuntu> it says sometroubl with the hardrive 0x00000007b
[21:06] <Mamarok> Lillymon: which KDE version?
[21:06] <hunter__> ok, thaks for this. but, what is with my dvd rom?
[21:06] <Walzmyn> hunter__: now type sudo apt-get upgrade
[21:06] <Lillymon> I'm glad I did, and I'm using KDE 4.2.2.
[21:06] <genii> draik: You say if you reboot now for instance it would suddenly start working fine again?
[21:07] <draik> genii: Yes.
[21:07] <Walzmyn> hunter__: that will grab all the updates for you.
[21:07] <ubuntu> so i installed using another computer kubuntu 8.04 into a flashdrive and then i instaled it in the toshiba nb100
[21:07] <hunter__> upgrade?
[21:07] <ubuntu> but then it does not see the hdd anymore
[21:07] <hunter__> oh, ok, i understand
[21:07] <ubuntu> it only sees the flash drive
[21:07] <Walzmyn> hunter__: please use my name so i can find your messages
[21:07] <Mamarok> Lillymon: could you please sudo apt-get update and sudo apt-get upgrade and put the error output in the pastebin?
[21:08] <ubuntu> please help me out
[21:08] <hunter__> so, and why i can not read a dvd? i install 10 min ago a new dvd, cd-rom, hardware, but it is not reading a dvd with software,
[21:08] <ubuntu> kubunto does not see the hdd on this computer anymore
[21:08] <Lillymon> Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199543/
[21:08] <hunter__> i dont know how can i do it, to use your usernemqa
[21:08] <hunter__> username
[21:09] <genii> draik: I'm out of immediate ideas on it then
[21:09] <Walzmyn> hunter__: type the beginning of my name and hit "tab"
[21:09] <Mamarok> ubuntu: does it come with a harddisk or a flashdrive?
[21:09] <Walzmyn> !dvd | hunter__
[21:09] <ubuntu> Walzmyn:  help me
[21:09] <hunter__> Walzmyn: aha
[21:09] <Mamarok> Lillymon: and the update did run correctly?
[21:10] <hunter__> so? i dont see if it is working
[21:10] <ubuntu> Mamarok: i need ur help
[21:10] <hunter__> Walzmyn: so?
[21:10] <Walzmyn> ubuntu: sorry, wasn't reading you're messages, but i've got to run. late already
[21:10] <Mamarok> ubuntu: read what I asked you earlier, please
[21:10] <draik> genii: I'm not sure at all of what is happening either. This only started happening around the start of 8.10, maybe even mid-8.10, but I am always hopeful that maybe some kernel upgrade will do the trick. Thusfar, nope.
[21:10] <Walzmyn> hunter__: so, what?
[21:10] <Lillymon> Mamarok: I'm running another one now, which is stuck on wine.budgetdedicted.com (again). The last one seemed to run fine.
[21:10] <hunter__> Walzmyn: aha, ok its working
[21:11] <Mamarok> Lillymon: so all the repositories were accessible, no error messages?
[21:11] <hunter__> Walzmyn: can you help me ith my dvd rom?
[21:11] <hunter__> Walzmyn: please
[21:11] <Lillymon> Mamarok: It just finished, and all but the Wine server were accessible.
[21:11] <Walzmyn> hunter__: see those links I sent you above, they'll explain it better than I, you need some packages from an aditional repo
[21:11] <ubuntu> how do i format a pc without a cdrom?
[21:12] <Mamarok> Lillymon: try sudo apt-get install amarok
[21:12] <Riddell> ubuntu: there are various disk formating applications, partitionmanager for example
[21:12]  * Walzmyn exits
[21:12] <draik> genii: I'm rebooting now.
[21:12] <Mamarok> ubuntu: you didn't answer, does this netbook have a harddisk or a flash drive?
[21:13] <FastElbow> ubuntu: did you booted up the nb100 with a usb stick?
[21:13] <AlienDK> Kubuntu pwns :D
[21:13] <Lillymon> Mamarok: Strangely enough, that seemed to install it.
[21:14] <Lillymon> Should I do that with the other stuck updates?
[21:14] <ubuntu> i need help!!!! please
[21:15] <Mamarok> ubuntu: please answer the questions you got, else we can not help you!
[21:15] <Mamarok> Lillymon: try it, sometimes it works
[21:16] <FastElbow> ubuntu: wait 'll grab my magic-wand
[21:16] <ubuntu> how do i format without a cdroom?
[21:17] <ubuntu> and my harddrive itś invisible to kubuntu
[21:17] <Mamarok> ubuntu: 22:13 < FastElbow> ubuntu: did you booted up the nb100 with a usb stick?
[21:17] <ubuntu> and it says it can find ntfsfix
[21:17] <Mamarok> answer this question, please!
[21:17] <ubuntu> Mamarok: yes im at te mment running from the usbstick
[21:18] <Mamarok> FastElbow: now he answered, but to me :)
[21:18] <ubuntu> Mamarok: ill get this right now
[21:18] <ubuntu> FastElbow:  yes im running from the usbstik
[21:18] <Mamarok> FastElbow: can you handle that? I'm not a netbook person unfortunately
[21:18] <FastElbow> ubuntu: do you want to install xp or linux?
[21:19] <ubuntu> FastElbow: xp, its my sis pc she wants xp
[21:19] <FastElbow> Mamarok: Mer neither but i can piont out some guides on the net i think
[21:20] <draik> genii: I'm online. Want me to run anything right now?
[21:20] <Lillymon> OK, I seem to be fine now. Thanks.
[21:21] <ubuntu> FastElbow: i found a guide on the net n how to install xp from a usb stick, but then i get an error, a blue screen
[21:21] <ubuntu> and now the harddrive its invisible
[21:22] <FastElbow> ubuntu: there was a crash  what started the problem maybe there is a harddisk problem?
[21:23] <ubuntu> FastElbow: xp was just slow, my sis loves isntalling shit, however i run chkdsk no erros found
[21:23] <ubuntu> FastElbow: i formatted the drive from kubuntu and the tried agian, same blue screen comes up
[21:23] <ubuntu> FastElbow: now the drive is invisible
[21:23] <darkmatter_> ubuntu: you mean that the HD was working with ubuntu before the crash?
[21:25] <FastElbow> ubuntu: ok the first try you saw the disk. correct?
[21:25] <hunter__> Walzmyn: its still not working..
[21:26] <ubuntu> darkmatter_: my sis had xp, i tried to reinstall xp using an usb wth xp on it. no succes. i got the blue screen, i checkes the dive no erros, i installed kubuntu and formated the whole drive, no erros found, i restarted to open kubuntu but kubuntu crashed too, the i run it from the usb stick instead but the drive is gone
[21:26] <FastElbow> ubuntu: if u try to install kubuntu does it see the disk?
[21:26] <ubuntu> FastElbow: it did an hour ago, but not anymore
[21:28] <ubuntu> i think im gonna make my sis buy a usb external cdroom
[21:28] <FastElbow> ubuntu: is there a bios on the netboo where u can see if the disk is working?
[21:29] <ubuntu> the biod does not show much, but i have not checked that
[21:30] <darkmatter_> ubuntu: what's the output of "cat /var/log/messages | grep  disk"
[21:30] <ubuntu> if it says master hd toshiba bla bla bla, then it means it is working eh?
[21:30] <hunter__> Walzmyn: i still cant install nothing from desktop. a package
[21:31] <ubuntu> darkmatter_:
[21:31] <ubuntu> Jun 19 19:35:08 ubuntu kernel: [   69.034006] RAMDISK driver initialized: 16 RAM                                disks of 65536K size 1024 blocksize
[21:31] <ubuntu> Jun 19 19:35:08 ubuntu kernel: [   75.553772] sd 4:0:0:0: [sda] Attached SCSI re                               movable disk
[21:31] <ubuntu> Jun 19 19:35:08 ubuntu kernel: [   75.555981] sd 5:0:0:0: [sdb] Attached SCSI re                               movable disk
[21:31] <FloodBotK2> ubuntu: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:31] <ubuntu> sorry
[21:32] <hunter__> ok, how i handle a .bin data, how i can isntall it, some help please?
[21:33] <darkmatter_> ubuntu: how about "cat /var/log/messages | grep  sda"
[21:36] <sheepsy> Sorry if this is a generic question. I think that there ought to be a simple answer for this but quick googling didn't turn much up. I'm trying to install kvm with vde on Jaunty. The package suggests vde2, I'm not quite sure how to get this going. Do I have to install from source? Do I have to find another repo that offers this? Or is there some other way to do this? In gentoo I would just tweak the use flag...
[21:39] <blackhole> saludos a todos..soy nuevo en esto del chat
[21:48] <bobleny> Hey, does anyone know how to enable or disable a prgame at start up? sort of like MS windows strart up programs menu?
[21:50] <bobleny> I'm asuming it is a text based list that ubuntu executes at startup. Any program in the list will then be started?
[21:50] <FastElbow> ubuntu: Try a http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/ it saved my ass sometime ago
[21:51] <ubuntu> FastElbow: u think i coiuld  use that ultimateboot from usb?
[21:51] <FastElbow> ubuntu:  iḿ sure
[21:52] <ubuntu> FastElbow: ill be back in a sec
[21:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> whats the official kubuntu repo from where i can update ?
[21:53] <sil3nt|warri0r> is it kubuntu-ppa or wat ?
[22:00] <mot> has anybody had any acpi issues with 9.04?
[22:00] <mot> for some reason when i use the poweroff or reboot commands from the terminal, the system shuts down but does not actually power off
[22:00] <mot> all processes are killed but it just goes to a discolored or blank screen and sits there...any suggestions?
[22:11] <Hjaernan_> I have a problem with Amarok. I rip music in flac from CD, using K3B. It automatically puts ID3 tags on. I add to Amarok, and then Amarok starts playing each track at 20 to 30 secs from the start. VLC plays fine without trouble. What can the problem be? Is this a known bug?
[22:34] <rage_> hi all users
[22:36] <supernix> anyone know how come I can't find the kgrubeditor?
[22:36] <supernix> I have looked through synaptic many times even enabling all the repositories and still no luck
[22:37] <BluesKaj> supernix, alt+F2 , kdesudo kate  /boot/grub/menu.lst
[22:40] <supernix> I am running a livecd right now BluesKaj
[22:40] <supernix> actually the Ubuntu 9.04 it was all I had burned as I added KDE after installing Ubuntu
[22:41] <BluesKaj> supernix, http://www.thelinuxsociety.org.uk/content/reinstall-grub-using-live-cd
[22:41] <supernix> after attending the South East Linux Fest and attending a lecture on the KDE4 I decided to go to KDE
[22:42] <supernix> ah BluesKaj thanks a lot that hits the spot
[22:42] <BluesKaj> supernix, it worked for me :)
[22:46] <supernix> I am so frustrated I have a partition that was the original Linux that I installed at /dev/sda5 and now I decreased the windows partition so that I could make a larger partition and then I copied the old /dev/sda5 to /dev/sda4 but now it wont let me delete the /dev/sda5
[22:46] <supernix> I am using gparted
[22:47] <BluesKaj> don't delete , reformat
[22:47] <supernix> OIC
[22:47] <supernix> hmmm thanks
[22:47] <supernix> anyone using ext4 yet?
[22:48] <Unksi> supernix: yeah been using for few months now
[22:48] <BluesKaj> supernix, i tried it but jaunty was unstable on it ...lots of crashes
[22:48] <sean_> supernix: I did (not in ubuntu) but not long and I noticed little difference
[22:49] <supernix> hmmmm sounds scary think I will just stick to the ext3 for safety sakes
[22:49] <Unksi> no difference noticed here^
[22:49] <supernix> stability is a primary factor for using Ubuntu
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, ext4 isn't quite ready for production use yet
[22:49] <sean_> supernix: If you are interested in speed you might set an eye toward some others too, like XFS
[22:50] <supernix> yeah I was wondering about xfs
[22:50] <supernix> heard it was great for large files and drives
[22:51] <davidjheinrich> does anyone here know how to customize the Wacom Bamboo's buttons on the pen?
[22:53] <supernix> wow BluesKaj I was running that setup routine that you told me about on that site but I am now confused
[22:54] <supernix> I am presended with (hd0,3) (hd0,4) and (hd1,4)
[22:54] <supernix> so now I don't know which one I am supposed to use
[22:57] <BluesKaj> supernix, hd0,3..usually the first partition
[22:58] <BluesKaj> it resides on the HDD independent of the OS , so hd0,3 should work
[22:58] <supernix> how can you correlate those with the /dev/sda% ?
[22:58] <supernix> hmmm ok thanks
[22:59] <BluesKaj> not to worry just follow the instruction
[22:59] <supernix> that is really odd as I only actually have 2 hard drives on this system
[22:59] <supernix> oh no I forgot
[22:59] <supernix> I do have 3
[22:59] <supernix> one is a usb external drive
[23:01] <BluesKaj> install grub on whatever drive is setup to boot first , I would think
[23:02] <BluesKaj> I'm not real sure about arrays , tbh ...maybe someone with some experience with multiple drives can jump in here and help
[23:03] <supernix> BluesKaj: wish me luck yall LOL
[23:03] <BluesKaj> heh
[23:22] <unix> helloo
[23:23] <unix> ani one here
[23:23] <alyoshka> For some reason Kubuntu doesn't want to load when loging in from KDM after latest updates. Anybody know why?
[23:35] <nicole_> darkmatter_:
[23:35] <nicole_> darkmatter_:  i was talking to you before aight? my hardrive was invisible was it u?
[23:36] <darkmatter_> yes it was
[23:37] <nicole_> chkdsk?
[23:37] <nicole_> x
[23:38] <nicole_> xp