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[00:55] <billybigrigger> anyone having torrent client problems?
[00:55] <billybigrigger> i can seem to crash either deluge or transmission, just be trying to change where the file is downloaded
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Jun 18 17:53:43 cabo kernel: [174822.185657] deluge[7151]: segfault at c0cc100 ip 00007f642a4b1e59 sp 00007fff1696da40 error 4 in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1702.0[7f642a3fc000+43e000]
[00:55] <billybigrigger> Jun 18 17:54:33 cabo kernel: [174872.489733] transmission[17614]: segfault at 640114e0 ip 00007fac754b9e59 sp 00007fff34c7c750 error 4 in libgtk-x11-2.0.so.0.1702.0[7fac75404000+43e000]
[00:56] <billybigrigger> a little odd dont you think gtk2.0?
[00:56]  * BUGabundo killall -i -O sigkill 68 brain-mater ; ~$ Are you  sure you don't want Dreams instead?
[00:57] <hexa-> billybigrigger: same problem here!
[00:58] <hexa-> its about every gtk file dialog
[00:58] <hexa-> and some nautilus locations
[00:58] <hexa-> now we are too :D
[00:58] <hexa-> two*
[01:47] <luis__> hey
[01:48] <luis__> do u guys know if gnome shell will be integrated at 9.10?
[01:48] <crdlb> it won't
[01:49] <crdlb> karmic will have gnome 2.28; the last of the 2.x series (unless the schedule slips)
[01:49] <Protector1981> 2.28?
[01:49] <virtuald> how do i report bugs like these:
[01:49] <Protector1981> have 2.27.3 :D
[01:49] <Protector1981> after 2.28 comes gnome 3, or?
[01:50] <virtuald> i switched to 5.1 output in pavucontrol, and rythmbox and emesene hanged. when rythmbox hanged it went silent
[01:50] <crdlb> Protector1981: odd minor releases are development releases
[01:50] <luis__> it will bring ext4 installation by default right?
[01:50] <crdlb> 27 being the minor part
[01:50] <Protector1981> ah k
[01:51] <Protector1981> ext4 is default, right
[01:51] <luis__> won't it bring any kind of problems?
[01:51] <luis__> with some compabilities
[01:51] <Protector1981> but i dont use ext4 ;) systems crashs when iam using ext4 oO
[01:51] <crdlb> Protector1981: 2.30 will be the next release, but if it goes well, it will be 3.0
[01:51] <luis__> really?
[01:52] <Protector1981> MY system crashs :D
[01:52] <luis__> i'm on ext4 now... but I do disagree on make ext4 default
[01:54] <luis__> and about plymouth?
[02:00] <Hobbsee> no plymouth
[02:00] <Hobbsee> plan is to ake ubuntu boot fast enough not to need it
[02:01] <DanaG> hmm, at least usplash on KMS is good enough.
[02:01] <DanaG> Just need to have GDM draw over it, instead of mode-switching.
[02:03] <luis__> ok but is ubuntu team thinking changing usplash?
[02:03] <DanaG> Now, if only I could get 3D and KMS together on my R600-based card... that would be the holy grail, so to speak.
[02:05] <luis__> so a possible way of implementing plymouth is disabling 3D effects for older cards?
[02:06] <luis__> or is much more than that?
[02:15] <DanaG> No, I'm commenting on 3D because R600 doesn't do 3D on the open-source drivers right now.
[02:25] <luis__> so u think it's possible?
[02:26] <luis__> for older cards to at least 'emulate' 3D from plymouth?
[02:27] <Protector1981> hehe, have actually the problem, that my notebook complete freeze when i using plymouth :(
[02:28] <Protector1981> then i go over recovery mode, then resume...works...deactivate plymouth, the book normally booting oO
[02:32] <luis__> lol
[02:34] <Protector1981> yes...so iam looking too :D
[02:39] <DanaG> I'm going to try the xorg-edgers livecd.
[02:39] <DanaG> though I'll make it a live SD card, instead.
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[02:56] <Protector1981> so iam going to bed
[02:56] <Protector1981> n8 all
[04:34] <DanaG> ugh, xorg-edgers iso has broken spellcheck... it marks 100% of all words as wrong.
[04:36] <DanaG> hmm, if I wanted to have a jaunty root and a karmic root, with the same /home partition and a shared /boot.... how much space should I give each root, and how well would it deal witha shared /boot?\
[04:38] <DanaG> eh, or maybe I should keep the karmic on an entirely different physical drive, to safeguard my home dir.
[04:38] <DanaG> mmmyeah, I think I'll do that.  =P   And I already have that all set up.
[04:38] <DanaG>   dimensions:    1920x1200 pixels (331x207 millimeters)
[04:38] <DanaG>   resolution:    147x147 dots per inch
[04:39] <DanaG> that's xdpyinfo.  So, why is gnome ignoring it?
[04:39] <tuv0k> anyone know if Yahoo IM servers are down atm?
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[04:49] <DanaG> hmm, for a system with 4 gigs of RAM... I'm having a hard time deciding how much swap to create.
[04:49] <msl> DanaG, You processing large data sets?
[04:50] <DanaG> Not usually.  About the biggest single memory-consumer I use is a VM that I'd give 1 gig of RAM... and I don't run any VMs very often.
[04:51] <msl> I do the same and I rarely have more than a few MB in swap.
[04:51] <msl> 512M is probably good.
[04:51] <DanaG> how about suspend-to-disk?  I rarely use it... mostly just use suspend-to-RAM or nothing,.
[04:51] <msl> Just in case :)
[04:51] <msl> Ah, I never do it.
[04:51] <DanaG> same for me... basically never.
[05:00] <DanaG> interesting: https://lists.linux-foundation.org/pipermail/linux-pm/2007-July/013971.html
[05:58] <DanaG> what  the hell... can't log out or shut down from system menu.
[05:58] <DanaG> how stupid!
[05:58] <DanaG> how very stupid!
[05:59] <DanaG> so now how the hell are you supposed to log out via keyboard?
[06:00] <Tekno_> beta is beta
[06:00] <DanaG> It's that way in Jaunty, too.
[06:00] <DanaG> By design!
[06:00] <DanaG> Fine, I'll go killall -SEGV gnome-session, because I'm feeling rather annoyed.
[06:00] <ghindo> Just use the fast user switch applet
[06:00] <DanaG> oh, it's x-session-manager
[06:00] <DanaG> ghindo: via keyboard?
[06:01] <ghindo> oh right
[06:55] <billybigrigger> how should i file this?
[06:55] <billybigrigger> http://imagebin.ca/view/NR7wkB1a.html
[06:56] <billybigrigger> nautilus %100 cpu usage
[06:56] <billybigrigger> hasn't crashed, just slowing my system down and i don't want to kill it until i can report it properly
[09:20] <cwillu> what's responsible for turning off the backlight during boot?  (even on a non-kms kernel without quiet and splash on the boot line)
[09:20] <cwillu> DanaG, a normal interrupt would have sufficed :p
[09:21] <DanaG> huh?
[09:21] <cwillu> DanaG, you could always just use a swap file re: hibernate
[09:21] <cwillu> -segv :p
[09:21] <DanaG> bah, it'
[09:22] <DanaG> ah, I was thinking interrupt as in hardware design.
[09:22] <cwillu> but ya, it'd be nice if the standard hibernate script would just create a swap file if there wasn't enough room in the swap partition
[09:23] <cwillu> as a nice side effect, it'd force everything back out into ram on resume if it deallocated the swap file after
[09:27] <DanaG> It'd be nice to be able to create one swap partition for regular use, and a second one that'd be used ONLY for hibernate.
[09:28] <cwillu> that doesn't really make sense though, unless you're going to also move things that are already in swap to the hibernation file
[09:28] <cwillu> i.e., it's just the normal swap mechanism
[09:30] <DanaG> What does it do when suspending with swap in use?  Does it not move the things that are already in swap?
[09:30] <cwillu> no
[09:30] <cwillu> all hibernate is is a full swapout of everything, plus some extra record keeping for kernel
[09:31] <DanaG> "does it not" -- sorry, double-negative.  I'd imagine it'd be silly to move around stuff that's already in swap -- so it'd leave it alone, right?\
[09:31] <cwillu> heh
[09:31] <cwillu> yes
[09:32] <tgpraveen> !empathy
[09:32] <ubottu> Sorry, I don't know anything about empathy
[09:32] <cwillu> "does it not just ..." == "doesn't it just"
[09:32]  * cwillu cheers for english ambiguity
[09:33] <cwillu> DanaG, I suppose you could make the temp swapfile with a higher priority though
[09:33] <cwillu> i.e., right before hibernate, a script makes the swap file and turns it on with higher priority.  System won't move things that are already swapped, but the hibernation swap out would all go to that file
[09:34] <cwillu> don't know why you'd want to though
[09:34] <cwillu> i.e., it doesn't buy you anything to do it that way
[09:36] <DanaG> "does it not" -- yeah, that's bad wording no matter which way you intend it.
[09:36] <DanaG> I had always thought of it "my" way.
[10:34] <Creative1412> Guys Empathy is too damn bugy!
[10:49] <bash> Is there any news of what new stuff is going to be added in 9.10?
[10:50] <arand> some things that I know is ext4 by default, empathy to replace pidgin & ekiga, grub2 by default, banshee to replace rythmbox if some sshowstopper bugs gets fixed before release...
[10:51] <bash> NO!!!
[10:51] <bash> Pidgin is far better then Empathy
[10:51] <bash> :(
[10:51] <bash> And so is Rythbom
[10:51] <bash> rhythmboc
[10:51] <bash> rhythmbox*
[10:52] <bash> sshowstopper bugs?
[10:52] <arand> heh, gmusicbrowser is my love-baby ;)
[10:52] <XGas> really? I don't think so, Rhythmbox is just a bit too... restrictive.
[10:52] <bash> I find rhythmbox great
[10:52] <bash> How is it restrictive?
[10:52] <XGas> good for you, keep using it then.
[10:53] <bash> How is it restrictive?
[10:53] <XGas> not enough features I need sometimes.
[10:53] <XGas> but that is till I found some plugins for it
[10:54] <XGas> I use mpd now so I don't care about anything else
[10:54] <bash> MPD?
[10:54] <arand> But the main point for the replace is that the original developer has stopped working actively on it...
[10:54] <XGas> Music Player Daemon
[10:54] <bash> o...
[10:54] <XGas> arand: I wasn't aware of that, how "not actively"?
[10:55] <XGas> nvm, I will look around it myself.
[10:58] <bash> does anyone know how to install a opengpg key easily?
[10:59] <bash> This repository is signed with the OpenPGP key  1024R/6E80C6B7
[10:59] <bash> https://edge.launchpad.net/~banshee-team/+archive/ppa
[11:00] <bash> nm i figured it out
[11:02] <arand> XGas: Actually, there is not very much official info out there it seems, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7435670 << second last post has a couple of stuff
[11:06] <XGas> arand: thanks.
[11:22] <flips01> any big show stoppers now with karmic? I am eager to upgrade and don't mind some debugging/buggy apps, but if my system is rendered useless by some known coreutils, glibc or other well known bug, I'd rather wait a little bit more
[11:24] <Hobbsee> which graphics are you using?
[11:24] <bash> NICE
[11:25] <bash> Banshee has Recommended artist :O
[11:25] <bash> I wanted that for the longest time
[11:25] <flips01> Hobsee: Intel
[11:28] <Hobbsee> flips01: tab key is your friend, btw, and you may need to urn xorg-edgers ppa.  There's a bit of weird graphics stuff
[11:29] <Hobbsee> but not as bad, with the xorg-edgers
[11:30] <flips01> Hobbsee: yes, I wondered how I was able to misspell your nick, I thought I always used Tab ... :)
[11:31] <flips01> Seems like it is Intel 945GME
[11:32] <Hobbsee> ah yes, tha's what i'm running
[11:32] <Hobbsee> you'll want xorg-edges then
[11:32] <Hobbsee> (and my keyboard being borken is a poblem with y keyboard, not karmic)
[11:33] <flips01> Hobbsee: so I should add/activate this xorg-edgers repo/ppa before I run release-upgrade?
[11:33] <Hobbsee> afte's fine
[11:34] <dstansby> Hello, just wondering if anyone knows when ekiga became a default package for installation on karmic.
[11:34] <flips01> hm, maybe I should install Karmic in addition, as this jaunty install works very smooth now  (I just miss some bleeding edge functionality in some apps) ...
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[11:53] <JMFTheVCI> have them been any reports of issues with distribution upgrade (update-manager -d) from Jaunty? Is it the reccomended method or should I try a clean install?
[11:54] <Hobbsee> dist-upgrader worked fine when i sued it
[11:55] <JMFTheVCI> Hobbsee: Thanks, just wanted to know. Clearly this won't upgrade the filesystem to ext4. Did you find any issues with staying with ext3?
[11:55] <Hobbsee> JMFTheVCI: errr....
[11:55]  * Hobbsee scratches head
[11:56] <JMFTheVCI> Also how is grub2 behaving. Do you dual boot on your PC/Laptop?
[11:56] <Hobbsee> oh, i did a clean install of jaunty, and used ext4 then
[11:56] <JMFTheVCI> ahh.
[11:56] <Hobbsee> it only happens for new installs,so i've not seen it.  I"ve been pondering migrating to it (might do when i get the netbook, so can 'trash' this achine more
[11:56] <Hobbsee> yes, i dual boot (or tripple boot, at times)
[11:57] <JMFTheVCI> I use a Samsung NC10 and a T61 Thinkpad. I am thinking about upgrading the T61 first. However I still need the Win XP dual-boot option and don't want GRUB2 to mess that up.
[11:58] <Hobbsee> if it did, you should just be able to install grub (1) over the top, i expect
[11:58] <Hobbsee> but one assumes that it wouldn't.
[11:58] <Hobbsee> otoh, if you're just dist-upgrading, you won't see grub2
[11:59] <Hobbsee> JMFTheVCI: out of curiosity, what are you using on the nc10, and how ae you finding it?
[12:01] <JMFTheVCI> I have Jaunty 9.04 and Windows 7 on the NC10. Both are fine.
[12:01] <JMFTheVCI> Skype and Pulseaudio are a dead turkey!
[12:01] <JMFTheVCI> Other than that I use it 99% of the time.
[12:02] <Hobbsee> hm, OK.  Jaunty doesn't get too annoying with the screen size that sall?
[12:02] <JMFTheVCI> I tailor my fonts and minimise the dimensions of everything to get the most screenspace. I don't have an issue.
[12:03]  * Hobbsee nods
[12:03]  * Hobbsee is getting an updated odel of that, and is trying to decide between standard ubuntu and UNR
[12:04] <JMFTheVCI> The main menubar (I have mine at the top) is only 20pixels deep. I use Gnome-Do as well so I don't worry about my menubar
[12:04] <Hobbsee> ah, so you do it the UNR way anyway.  right
[12:04] <JMFTheVCI> I looked at UNR, but I prefer the full thing. I even have Compiz enabled and that is good as well. I did upgrade RAM to 2GB in my NC10.
[12:05]  * Hobbsee nods
[12:06] <christophsturm> anyone managed to pair an iphone with karmic via bluetooth?
[12:09] <JMFTheVCI> I don't have an iPhone...
[12:18] <Creative1412> iphone is crap
[13:03] <afd__>  hi! I have a dell xps 1530, and the latest ubuntu beta. When I move lots of files on the hard disk (from a partition to another), the system tends to freeze a lot and applications respond very slow, the system load is high (above 3). What can I do?
[13:52] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
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[14:14] <JMFTheVCI> just upgraded to 9.10 and been hit by this bug https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nautilus/+bug/325973
[14:14] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 325973 in nautilus "gnome-session keeps respawning nautilus when no desktop is drawed" [Medium,Fix released]
[14:14] <JMFTheVCI> This did get fixed in Jaunty but has re-appeared in Karmic
[14:18] <JMFTheVCI> Also the upgrade did not upgrade grub to grub2. Was it supposed to?
[14:19] <Hobbsee> no - new installs only.
[14:20] <JMFTheVCI> do you know where the log of the upgrade is stored?
[14:22] <JMFTheVCI> found it /var/log/dist-upgrades
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[16:44] <DanaG> Skype sucks.
[16:44] <DanaG> They haven't fixed their broken ALSA handling that's been broken for, oh, isn't it like 2 years now?
[16:45] <DanaG> I refuse to use grub2 until it gets a savedefault function.
[17:40] <DanaG> http://lists.reactivated.net/pipermail/fprint/2009-June/001215.html
[17:40] <DanaG> interesting... so if help obtaining devices is what they need... I may very well order a fingerprint board from HP and donate it to the project.
[18:01] <dupondje> Touchpad still not fixed :(
[18:02] <DanaG> ugh, $28.50, plus $11.25 shipping.
[18:02] <DanaG> How does it cost that much to ship a PCB that's likely only about 4" x 4"?
[18:41] <ubuntu> hi
[18:41] <ubuntu> when trying to switch desktop, it totally freeze
[18:43] <dupondje> error ?
[18:43] <dupondje> what freezes ?
[18:43] <dupondje> noobs :D
[18:52] <djsiegel1> Hey guys, here is the first batch of ten out of one hundred papercuts we plan to fix for Karmic if you want to take a look or get involved: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+milestone/round-1
[18:52] <djsiegel1> DBO, do you know who's in charge here?
[18:55] <dupondje> we plan to fix ? ;)
[18:55] <dupondje> some are 'Fix Released'
[18:55] <dupondje> no need to fix those anymore ? ;)
[18:56] <djsiegel1> dupondje: yes, they should all be Fix Released by next Friday :)
[18:56] <Pici> djsiegel1: What do you mean by in charge?
[18:56] <dupondje> ChanServ ;)
[18:56] <djsiegel1> Pici: I just wanted to ask if we could put "The first round of paper cuts - http://tinyurl.com/mhs2qb" in the topic
[18:57] <DanaG> What win7 and vista do for user dir: it's just "username"
[18:57] <djsiegel1> to get people checking them out
[18:57] <djsiegel1> DanaG: that's what OS X does too
[18:57] <DanaG> so I have a folder thingy: "Dana"
[18:57] <djsiegel1> Maybe, instead of short username, we use your first name?
[18:57] <djsiegel1> danag vs Dana
[18:57] <djsiegel1> david vs David
[18:58] <djsiegel1> njpatel vs Neil
[18:58] <DanaG> hmm, or a bit of logic:
[18:58] <DanaG> if username is just first name... capitalize it as in first name.
[18:58] <DanaG> Just watch out for case-sensitivity.
[18:58] <djsiegel1> right, well, we can't really dissect the short username
[18:59] <djsiegel1> but if we have a full username with multiple words
[18:59] <djsiegel1> we can use the first word
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[18:59] <DanaG> Just check for matching, before assuming.
[18:59] <djsiegel1> Pici: thanks
[18:59] <djsiegel1> DanaG: or if we have your first name from About Me
[18:59] <DanaG> that's what I mean.
[18:59] <Pici> np
[18:59] <djsiegel1> cool
[19:00] <DanaG> like, my mom's iMac (OS X): name is Firstname Lastname, username is firstnamelastname
[19:00] <djsiegel1> DanaG: want to add your suggestion to the bug? I really like it
[19:02] <dupondje> would like to get involved :) but have no *** clue how to start it :P
[19:03] <djsiegel1> dupondje: I can tell you how to get involved.
[19:03] <djsiegel1> dupondje: what skills do you have? can you make icons? do you program? do you like to write? do you enjoy bug triage?
[19:04] <dupondje> I can program :) and what u mean by bug triage ? :)
[19:05] <dupondje> just googled it ;) well triage doesn't need to be done for the papercuts ?
[19:13] <djsiegel1> dupondje: I mean sorting out the bugs
[19:14] <djsiegel1> dupondje: helping decide which are paper cuts, which are feature requests, and which are just confusing
[19:14] <djsiegel1> dupondje: if you can program, I suggest checking out all of the confirmed paper cuts and trying to fix one :)
[19:14] <DanaG> heh, instead of Auto eth0, I like mine to just say "Ethernet"
[19:15] <dupondje> djsiegel1: what source I need to use then ?
[19:15] <djsiegel1> dupondje: many of the bugs affect nautilus, so you could figure out how to build nautilus on your computer, then start digging through the code
[19:15] <dupondje> apt-get source ? :)
[19:15] <djsiegel1> apt-get source nautilus
[19:15] <DanaG> hmm, what should it show in the menu? "Wired Network"
[19:15] <DanaG> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/386900
[19:15] <dupondje> owkej :D
[19:15] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 386900 in hundredpapercuts ""Auto eth0" confusing for most people" [Low,In progress]
[19:16] <djsiegel1> dupondje: you may want to get more info in #gnome-dev (?) and #nautilus if it exists
[19:16] <djsiegel1> dupondje: they can help you work against trunk nautilus
[19:16] <djsiegel1> dupondje: or install karmic (perhaps in a vm) and apt-get nautilus there
[19:16] <djsiegel1> apt-get source nautilus there*
[19:16] <dupondje> i'm already on karmic ;)
[19:17] <djsiegel1> dupondje: sudo apt-get build-dep nautilus will hook you up with what you need to build nautilus
[19:17] <dupondje> but if it gets fixed in the nautils trunk, then it will not be synced in time with Karmic ?
[19:17] <djsiegel1> no, we can apply the patch in karmic and push the patch upstream to sync for karmic+1
[19:18] <djsiegel1> (I think)
[19:19] <dupondje> for Nautilus its better to use bazaar ?
[19:20] <dupondje> (as apt-get source mentions ;))
[19:20] <DanaG> http://stalefries.googlepages.com/howtosnautilustemplates
[19:20] <DanaG> hmm, interesting: I never knew about .hidden
[19:32] <ripps> Hey, I 've been having alot of trouble with the Karmic alpha2 cds. both of them give me missing package warnings near the end of the copy packages phase. I've used both the desktop and alternate versions and I've made sure their md5sums were correct, but I still get bad integrety checks on them. I'm downloading a daily build now to see if that fixes it.
[19:33] <DanaG> https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xdg-user-dirs/+bug/126103
[19:33] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 126103 in xdg-user-dirs "should apply icons to xdg-user-dirs" [Wishlist,Fix released]
[19:33] <DanaG> hmm... I like my "downloads" dir that has a "box" icon, not a "web page" icon.
[19:36] <charlie-tca> ripps: use the latest daily-live cd. Alpha2 cd's did have issues
[19:36] <ripps> charlie-tca: I wish they would have put that warning on the cd download page... :\
[19:37] <charlie-tca> Didn't really know immediately
[19:37] <charlie-tca> It only showed up for one person at the time
[19:37] <charlie-tca> but, the grub2 issue got fixed already
[19:38] <DanaG> I won't use grub2 until they implement "savedefault" in it.
[19:38] <ripps> Maaaaan... I don't like having to use an IRC client in windows... I miss my irssi....
[19:39] <DanaG> I use pidgin everywhere.
[19:39] <ripps> I'm using pidgin now, but I prefer my irssi. I've customized to just my liking.
[19:40] <dupondje> djsiegel1: checking nautilus atm to fix the cd-burner issue, but hell its a hard thing if u have totally no id where the code to change is located :D
[19:42] <ripps> I'm looking forward to helping with Karmic, I have alot more packaging experience than I did when I was testing Jaunty alpha, I'm hoping I can test out alot more patches now.
[19:45] <ripps> Dang, the cdimage server is being slow, I'm only d/ling the daily-build at around 12 kb/s
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[19:52] <dupondje> ripps: location ?
[19:52] <ripps> dupondje: where I live? Duluth, MN, USA
[19:53] <dupondje> cause here the cdimage downloads @ 1,4mb/sec :P
[19:53] <ripps> It's at about 24 kp/s
[19:54] <ripps> My connection should allow for up to 100 kp/s
[19:55] <dupondje> thats quite sad
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[21:26] <dupondje> djsiegel1: u there ?
[21:31] <djsiegel1> dupondje: hey, my cursor got locked in virtualbox, sorry :)
[21:31] <djsiegel1> what's up?
[21:32] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus-cd-burner/+bug/30739
[21:32] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 30739 in nautilus-cd-burner ""Move to Trash" option misleading" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[21:32] <dupondje> is quite hard to fix it seems
[21:33] <dupondje> as the Nautilus api doesn't have an option to replace items
[21:33] <dupondje> only add
[21:47] <BUGabundo> guud evening o/
[21:47] <BUGabundo> !ping
[21:47] <ubottu> ping yourself ;-) really the diodes all down my left side are sore
[21:49] <dupondje> hi :D
[21:49] <BUGabundo> hey dupondje
[21:49] <BUGabundo> dupondje: do you have some free time?
[21:50] <dupondje> trying to fix a bug atm :P
[21:50] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/nautilus-cd-burner/+bug/30739
[21:50] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 30739 in nautilus-cd-burner ""Move to Trash" option misleading" [Unknown,Confirmed]
[21:50] <BUGabundo> I would like to get a bunch of karmic testers to help track down a bug on firefox 3,.6
[21:50] <dupondje> whats tha bug :D
[21:51] <BUGabundo> flash captures the keyb and won't let go
[21:51] <BUGabundo> need to test ALL daily versions to determine WHEN it started
[21:51] <dupondje> don't have that problem here :s
[21:51] <BUGabundo> with 3 or 4 guys, testing versions by week, we should find it fast
[21:51] <BUGabundo> 3.6?
[21:51] <BUGabundo> daily build?
[21:52] <dupondje> 3.6 ? ;) isn't it 3.5 ? :)
[21:53] <BUGabundo> no
[21:53] <BUGabundo> its 3.6
[21:56] <BUGabundo> calling all karmic testers to join me on #ubuntu-mozillateam and help track down a flash bug on Firefox 3.6. thanks
[21:57] <djsiegel1> Does anyone know how to get virtualbox guest additions to install the X driver in Karmic?
[21:58] <dupondje> ain't it just a package ?
[21:59] <BUGabundo> dupondje: me or djsiegel1?
[21:59] <dupondje> djsiegel1:  :)
[22:00] <BUGabundo> eheh
[22:00] <BUGabundo> dupondje: learn to prefix the message with user nick!
[22:00] <dupondje> djsiegel1: btw, u read my comment about the Nautilus-cd-burner bug ?
[22:00] <djsiegel1> dupondje: yeah, grep "Mo_ve to Trash" **/*.(c|h) shows all the files with that entry
[22:01] <djsiegel1> maybe one of them is where that label is added to a menu when burning CDs?
[22:01] <dupondje> its just added ALWAYS
[22:01] <djsiegel1> not sure if that command will work in bash
[22:01] <dupondje> by default ...
[22:01] <djsiegel1> hmm
[22:01] <djsiegel1> right, we want it there I believe
[22:01] <djsiegel1> I think the paper cut is to change the wording
[22:01] <djsiegel1> you want to remove the file from the CD you are going to burn
[22:01] <djsiegel1> not trash it
[22:02] <dupondje> I know
[22:02] <djsiegel1> ok
[22:02] <dupondje> it would just need to change the label
[22:02] <dupondje> but that isn't possible :(
[22:02] <djsiegel1> you just aren't sure in the code when a CD is being burned?
[22:02] <dupondje> or at least not without big changes
[22:02] <djsiegel1> did you talk to upstream?
[22:02] <dupondje> yep
[22:03] <djsiegel1> they said it's too hard?
[22:03] <dupondje> yep
[22:03] <dupondje> There is an extension in Nautilus to ADD items
[22:03] <dupondje> real easy
[22:03] <dupondje> but there is no possibility to change/delete items :(
[22:03] <djsiegel1> well, I think we are removing nautilus-cd-burner in karmic
[22:03] <djsiegel1> and using brasero or something, right?
[22:04] <djsiegel1> I don't understand why we are doing that, nautilus-cd-burner is simple
[22:04] <dupondje> well nautilus-cd-burner is getting kicked out from Gnome also
[22:04] <dupondje> Brasero replaces it
[22:04] <djsiegel1> ok, so, maybe this whole paper cut is garbage?
[22:05] <dupondje> well its possible to change the label of trash, but it would need dirty hacks in Nautilus itself ...
[22:06] <djsiegel1> no, no dirty hacks
[22:07] <djsiegel1> if nautilus-cd-burner is out of karmic, I want to invalidate the paper cut and replace it in this week's milestone
[22:08] <djsiegel1> dupondje: will you comment that it is not trivial to fix, and the package is being remove anyway?
[22:08] <djsiegel1> then mark invalid if it lets you, I will replace the papercut
[22:08] <dupondje> dunno if karmic will remove it, but its getting removed from gnome ...
[22:09] <djsiegel1> yeah, it is slated for removal, it's invalid
[22:09] <djsiegel1> dupondje: will you comment and mark invalid in hundredpapercuts?
[22:09] <dupondje> on it ! :D
[22:10] <djsiegel1> dupondje: I've replaced it with this one https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/57210
[22:10] <ubottu> Launchpad bug 57210 in nautilus "Search button does not toggle search field" [Wishlist,Triaged]
[22:10] <djsiegel1> dupondje: same code base, and it already has patches
[22:10] <djsiegel1> dupondje: check out the patches, see which ones work, try to make the search field toggle
[22:11] <blueyed> amarok is "Updating system configuration." for quite (+1h) already. known bug?
[22:11] <dupondje> djsiegel1: added comment !
[22:11] <dupondje> going to check the other bug :P
[22:28] <dupondje> djsiegel1: where are the patches btw ? ;)
[22:30] <djsiegel1> dupondje: I think they are on the lp bug, or the upstream bug linked to from the lp bug
[22:30] <djsiegel1> yeah, upstream bugzilla
[22:33] <homebrew> I'm running 9.10 in VBox and was wondering if it is possible to use the guest additions for it yet.  The last time I tried with Alpha 1, it broke.
[23:13] <BUGabundo> X died once I returned from Guest Session
[23:15] <BUGabundo> anyone can confirm that?
[23:15] <BUGabundo> nvidia card and driver