| lamalex | some ubuntu team needs help. as always, technical people are design challenged. need the help of you wonderful people to make it beautiful | 00:00 |
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| Viper550 | wow SVG can do that? | 00:04 |
| lamalex | say goodbye to flash | 00:04 |
| lamalex | the future is svg+javascript / html5 | 00:04 |
| lamalex | MTecknology: and doctormo have been kicking ass :) | 00:04 |
| MTecknology | Viper550: I'm building the whole thing using php/sql | 00:05 |
| kwwii | Viper550: wow, nice to see you still have the same nick | 00:06 |
| kwwii | start working! | 00:06 |
| kwwii | and now time for sleep | 00:06 |
| thorwil | kwwii: morning! do you have experience with freelance jobs for clients outside the EU, or even specifically australia? | 10:29 |
| kwwii | thorwil: well, I have done freelance jobs for non-eu people before, so yes | 10:49 |
| kwwii | but not australia | 10:49 |
| kwwii | although from a german perspective it doesn't matter where they are as long as they are outside of the eu | 10:49 |
| kwwii | you won't have to pay mwst on what you earn from outside the EU :) | 10:50 |
| thorwil | kwwii: cool. but could the job be taxable in the country of my client? | 11:09 |
| kwwii | not for you, no | 11:12 |
| kwwii | erm, although that depends on which country | 11:13 |
| kwwii | in USA it probably would, I guess | 11:13 |
| thorwil | well, my contact hopefully knows :) | 11:13 |
| kwwii | let me ask someone I know who does a lot of contracting | 11:13 |
| kwwii | I just talked to someone who has done several contracts for companies in australia and he told me that it was not a problem | 11:17 |
| kwwii | there were no extra tax laws or such | 11:17 |
| thorwil | kwwii: great, thanks! | 11:17 |
| kwwii | n p | 11:17 |
| michote | macvr: I uploaded a face-angel | 12:18 |
| michote | macvr: do you want to have all the (open) mouths in lightbrown now? | 12:19 |
| raozuzu | michote: what are you talking about? :) | 12:25 |
| michote | raozuzu: breathe-smileys ;) | 12:25 |
| raozuzu | uh... thnx you ;) | 12:26 |
| raozuzu | how is going the whole work? | 12:26 |
| michote | raozuzu: I'm just working on the smileys, but you can take a look at the wiki | 12:29 |
| raozuzu | you're right :P I'll take a look ;) | 12:29 |
| macvr | michote: looks good... but not sure about the blush... lets see what Cory says... i think he might reply this week end... so you can wait before editing... | 12:32 |
| michote | macvr: ok, we'll see. | 12:35 |
| michote | macvr: did your comment refer to the mouths, too? | 12:35 |
| raozuzu | mmm the mouse pointer theme would be the jimmac's one also in KK? | 12:36 |
| macvr | michote: you can edit the mouths similar to the surprise and add as a second version, let both be on the wiki | 12:37 |
| michote | michote: ok | 12:38 |
| thorwil | michote: really nice job on the halo. i think the blush is a nice touch | 12:40 |
| michote | thorwil: thx ;) | 12:40 |
| thorwil | michote: you should perhaps try to have the halo cast light onto the face | 12:41 |
| thorwil | the shadow you have now does help to keep both objects apart, though | 12:42 |
| michote | you mean changing the shadow into a shine? | 12:43 |
| thorwil | michote: yes, though you might need to add a gap between halo and shine | 12:43 |
| macvr | thorwil: i like the blush , but there seems to be something off! | 12:43 |
| macvr | maybe if the circle was bigger and the fade was more gradual... | 12:45 |
| thorwil | macvr: ack | 12:45 |
| macvr | from the blush to the surrounding | 12:45 |
| thorwil | michote: you could turn the dark strokes of the eyes into shapes and make them pointy at both ends. for the scalable size, only | 12:46 |
| thorwil | or let them fade out to the sides a bit | 12:46 |
| macvr | thorwil: isnt the 128 px, blush looking strong? | 12:47 |
| thorwil | macvr: with ack i meant taht i agree with bigger and more gradual | 12:48 |
| macvr | i know | 12:48 |
| macvr | but i feel that the blush ... that blush makes the angel look like a cross dresser to me! | 12:49 |
| macvr | maybe for the 128px, it could be lighter, more subtle | 12:49 |
| thorwil | macvr: heh, don't you know that we market ubuntu to cross-dressers. too? ;) | 12:49 |
| macvr | we can market , but angel? | 12:50 |
| thorwil | +1 for more subtle. i still say it is a nice touch :) | 12:50 |
| macvr | i too like the blush... but its just too strong | 12:50 |
| macvr | michote: could you try the blush in a lighter shade? | 12:51 |
| macvr | SiDi: have you looked into that file i sent? | 12:52 |
| michote | yes, I'll will give it a try, I just was uploading glasses with a changed mouth ;) | 12:52 |
| SiDi | err i was away | 12:52 |
| macvr | SiDi: always very busy! | 12:54 |
| macvr | thorwil: did you have a look at the smile 3rd version? does the cheek look wierd? | 12:55 |
| thorwil | macvr: yes, it does | 12:55 |
| macvr | ah! | 12:55 |
| thorwil | macvr: it's too sharp | 12:55 |
| SiDi | macvr: which line ? | 12:55 |
| SiDi | oh crap thats js :( | 12:56 |
| SiDi | macvr: im quite in a hurry right now, ping me about it tonight, okies ? | 12:56 |
| macvr | SiDi: line222 | 12:56 |
| macvr | ok no prob | 12:56 |
| SiDi | body = body + subject + "\r\nfrom " + author + "\r\n"; ? | 12:57 |
| thorwil | macvr: you should study how that looks in a real smile. there's a strong inward bend, so you would have darker shade to the sides of the mouth | 12:57 |
| macvr | yup | 12:57 |
| SiDi | try this | 12:57 |
| SiDi | \r\n instead of " ," | 12:57 |
| SiDi | or try to actually go to next line | 12:57 |
| macvr | thorwil: i tried making it less sharp... but t just didnt work out! | 12:57 |
| SiDi | subject + " | 12:57 |
| SiDi | blabl" | 12:57 |
| SiDi | see you later people | 12:57 |
| thorwil | macvr: the highlights shouldn't be right next too the lines | 12:58 |
| thorwil | macvr: the high point of the cheecks would be elsewhere | 12:58 |
| macvr | oh ... ok | 12:58 |
| macvr | thorwil: http://www.flickr.com/photos/everaldocoelho/3588311497/sizes/m/ i tried making it like this! | 12:59 |
| macvr | i think i need to edit the stops... | 12:59 |
| thorwil | macvr: the whole lighting is different there | 13:00 |
| macvr | thorwil: that wont look good here? | 13:00 |
| thorwil | he seems to assume 3 light sources. and there is glow | 13:00 |
| macvr | ah... ! | 13:01 |
| macvr | so the shine MUST be higher for this one | 13:01 |
| macvr | i kept feeling something was of!!! | 13:01 |
| thorwil | macvr: http://www.live-wintersport.com/thumb_uc_5394_540_Bill_Demong_(USA_Kombi)_with_smile.jpg | 13:02 |
| thorwil | macvr: maybe it helps if the think of the mouth as a shape on a vertical cylinder (think of the u-shape of the teeth) | 13:06 |
| thorwil | the cheeks are like balls that are pushed to the sides and up by the smile | 13:07 |
| macvr | thorwil: i think i'm just going to remove the shine :P | 13:07 |
| macvr | i'll try though... :) | 13:07 |
| macvr | thorwil: doesnt this look ok... http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/smiley6.png | 13:09 |
| kwwii | note that the line around the outside gets pixelated at all of the smaller sizes you show | 13:10 |
| macvr | the smaller sizes doesn have the cheek lines... | 13:10 |
| macvr | doesnt^ | 13:11 |
| macvr | oh you mean the 48,32?px | 13:11 |
| macvr | kwwii: ^ | 13:11 |
| kwwii | well, i was only talking about the line around the outside of the whole thing | 13:11 |
| kwwii | it looks pixelated on all of the smaller sizes on my screen | 13:11 |
| macvr | :( | 13:12 |
| macvr | i'll see what i can do... | 13:12 |
| kwwii | either make the line bigger on the smaller sizes or less visible | 13:12 |
| thorwil | macvr: it might look ok, but not exactly good | 13:12 |
| macvr | thorwil: :P ... | 13:12 |
| kwwii | and make sure the circles are on a pixel grid | 13:12 |
| macvr | thorwil: i'll try adding the shine... | 13:13 |
| macvr | kwwii: ok... | 13:13 |
| thorwil | macvr: i think the problem is that you leave the realm of printed-on-the-surface, but only so slightly and in a limited area. so the whole things falls apart a bit | 13:14 |
| macvr | kwwii: actually there is a black shadow below the line... is that waht is causing the pixelation effect? | 13:14 |
| thorwil | macvr: so you need to either get the surface modeling right and applied on a broader area, or you need to go back to the just-printed-on look | 13:14 |
| macvr | thorwil: ah... i'll first try with the surface modelling... | 13:16 |
| kwwii | macvr: essentially it is the fact that a thin line is showing which does not look good with the anti-aliasing | 13:22 |
| kwwii | so it is a matter of size, transparency and placement | 13:22 |
| macvr | kwwii: ok... i'll correct it | 13:23 |
| * kwwii gets lunch soon | 13:23 | |
| * macvr hates faces :P ... easier while working on inanimate objects | 13:40 | |
| SiDi | crappy residence | 13:53 |
| SiDi | they just opened the laundry instead of at 9 am and now i dont have enough time to wash my clothes... >_< | 13:53 |
| macvr | SiDi: never picked you as a clean guy! | 13:54 |
| macvr | :P | 13:54 |
| SiDi | meh | 13:55 |
| SiDi | i got enough clean clothes for a good week yet | 13:55 |
| SiDi | but still | 13:55 |
| thorwil | what? i'm sure SiDi usually sparkles! | 13:55 |
| SiDi | that pisses me off | 13:55 |
| SiDi | cause i'll have to do it monday before or after work | 13:55 |
| SiDi | and i wont have clean sheets when ill be back sunday | 13:55 |
| SiDi | which sucks even more | 13:56 |
| macvr | SiDi: see there is a down side to having toooo much action! | 13:56 |
| SiDi | c'mon, i had PLAIN TIME for this this morning | 13:57 |
| SiDi | but they had to open it at 2 PM | 13:57 |
| SiDi | after i asked twice | 13:57 |
| * SiDi is upset | 13:57 | |
| macvr | thorwil: do you have any of Oliver's work [links] ? | 14:39 |
| macvr | the bird he had done for the stamp was awesome... | 14:40 |
| thorwil | macvr: nope | 14:55 |
| macvr | :( | 14:55 |
| * thorwil goes for a walk | 14:55 | |
| kwwii | we should get in touch with mma, I am sure he has some of this somewhere | 14:59 |
| macvr | kwwii: ^ was that regarding Oliver? | 16:12 |
| kwwii | macvr: well, about getting the missing images back online | 16:13 |
| macvr | i think michote has restored the png... | 16:14 |
| macvr | of all the files | 16:14 |
| macvr | i was asking for the links ... just to analyze his work.. :) | 16:14 |
| kwwii | ahh, cool | 16:16 |
| kwwii | just want to make sure that nothing gets lost accidentaly | 16:17 |
| macvr | kwwii: michote had convert the svg to png en bulk using the nautilus script, so some didnt look good, those i recognized as bad quality , i restored from the ones i had downloaded, also warned the other members via a mailing list so that they too could check ... | 16:19 |
| kwwii | cool | 16:26 |
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