[00:27] <dinda> what is the best mailing address for this project?  the LP one?
[01:30] <bodhizazen> yes dinda
[01:31] <bodhizazen> dinda: do we have an official response re licensing ?
[01:31] <bodhizazen> thank you doctormo
[01:31] <pleia2> no, the lists.ubuntu.com one is the official one
[01:31] <bodhizazen> I appreciate that
[01:31] <pleia2> the LP one needs to be shut down
[01:31] <bodhizazen> it is ???
[01:31] <bodhizazen> lol
[01:31] <pleia2> yes
[01:32] <pleia2> we were only using the LP one until we got the lists.ubuntu.com one sorted (it is now)
[01:32] <bodhizazen> doctormo: I have been checking licensing issues with other sources (no offense to anyone on this channel)
[01:53] <dinda> bodhizazen: was trying to find the official project mailing list so I can send the referral info for legal advice from the SFLC
[02:12] <bodhizazen> thank you dinda
[02:13] <dinda> pleia2: so which is the project mailing list?
[02:15] <pleia2> the one linked on the wiki page, sec
[02:15] <pleia2> https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-learning
[02:16] <dinda> ack - I gotta figure out which folder these are being filtered to on Tbird as I've not seen these posts
[02:17] <pleia2> oh, and it shouldnt make the From: address be UCLP anymore ;) I fisehd that
[02:17] <pleia2> fixed too
[02:18] <pleia2> ok, heading off for the evening
[02:53] <dinda> just got directed to this site from the Sugar group:  http://www.linux-for-education.org/
[02:53] <dinda> yet another Moodle Open source learning site
[03:00] <doctormo> dinda: Thanks! it's CC-BY-SA too :-D good for remixing and stuff. I'll add it to the wiki page
[15:41] <cprofitt> hello doctormo dthacker pleia2 greg-g popey
[15:42] <popey> hi
[15:42] <doctormo> Hello cprofitt, popey
[15:42] <pleia2> morning
[15:51] <cprofitt> popey
[15:52] <cprofitt> do you have time to talk about a LoCo related item
[15:52] <popey> go for i
[15:52] <popey> *it
[15:52] <cprofitt> The NY team will be applying again in July...
[15:52] <cprofitt> this the format I am going to use - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/ApprovalApplicationDraft
[15:53] <cprofitt> for the application -- does that look good (information needs to be added)
[15:53] <popey> sure
[15:54] <popey> the information is more important than the format :)
[15:54] <doctormo> cprofitt: I thought the NY team was approved already
[15:54] <cprofitt> and the second to that is how to consolidate the following -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events
[15:54] <cprofitt> doctormo, no we were turned down in March
[15:54] <cprofitt> and turned down the year before
[15:54] <popey> i like that events page
[15:54] <cprofitt> should I just link to the event and meeting lists popey ?
[15:54] <doctormo> cprofitt: hmm, not enough events or some red tape glitch?
[15:55] <cprofitt> I had those events on our last app in March and it seemed to confuse the council
[15:55] <cprofitt> doctormo, back in March we were told we did not have enough sustained activity
[15:55] <cprofitt> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Events/Past
[15:56] <cprofitt> the nature of the LoCos events has changed since I got more involved in scheduling them as well...
[15:57] <cprofitt> popey, we have a sep. page for meetings - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/Meetings/Past
[15:57] <cprofitt> so I am thinking of listing a summary of event totals over the last 12 months, meetings over the last twelve months... with a highlight on a few key events...
[15:57] <popey> nice and comprehensive
[15:57] <cprofitt> then linking to the full archive pages
[15:57] <popey> yeah
[15:58] <cprofitt> popey, should I repackage the What We Do and Goals section (bottom of page) from here as well -- https://wiki.ubuntu.com/NewYorkTeam/ ?
[15:59] <popey> if a few of the "what we do" lines linked to supporting logs/photos/blogs/etc that might be useful
[16:00] <doctormo> cprofitt: If ever your up in Massachusetts, come and see what we do at community centers, every week we teach Ubuntu Desktop.
[16:00] <cprofitt> ok... sounds good.
[16:00] <cprofitt> doctormo, we are looking to try and get the ability to teach - but so far we do not have any 'centers' that have computers that have interest
[16:01] <cprofitt> the two I know of are 'blue' with Microsoft and have no interest from changing, but I do communicate with them
[16:01] <cprofitt> I am currently searching out (have found two) teachers who use Linux at the K-12 level
[16:01] <cprofitt> and looking to support them... and help them 'sway' others
[16:02] <cprofitt> popey, do you feel we have enough activity? the right mix of activities?
[16:02] <popey> looks good to me :)
[16:02] <doctormo> cprofitt: We've found it's good to teach techies to teach first and then people will get confortable, to be honest the SETC has acted like a weekly beacon and people come even to not teach but just to hang and talk and think about Ubuntu.
[16:03] <cprofitt> popey, thanks... I really want to nail this one down... to avoid any negative feelings like we had the last time...
[16:03] <doctormo> core members mostly do the teaching.
[16:03] <popey> sure
[16:03] <cprofitt> so I want to work with you guys to make sure I present the information in the best possible manner
[16:56] <greg-g> morning all
[17:33] <cprofitt> hey greg-g
[20:45] <tidd> I feel like I have a really stupid question. ioctl, what package installs it? I cannot seem to find it, running jaunty
[23:09] <bodhi_zazen> playpen us up ;)
[23:09] <bodhi_zazen> *is
[23:14] <doctormo> bodhi_zazen: thanks
[23:16] <bodhi_zazen> it will be at learn.bodhizazen.net
[23:17] <bodhi_zazen> I need to configure my router , can not access from work
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> I was wrong, it is up now
[23:43] <bodhi_zazen> http://learn.bodhizazen.net/moodle/