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| dholbach | good morning | 06:56 |
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| directhex | morning dholbach | 08:29 |
| dholbach | hi directhex | 08:42 |
| * hyperair pokes dholbach | 08:55 | |
| hyperair | dholbach: remuco's in karmic? i don't see it =\ | 08:56 |
| dholbach | hyperair: you're right - sorry, I was mistaken | 08:59 |
| hyperair | dholbach: do NEW packages get autosynced? | 08:59 |
| dholbach | yes | 08:59 |
| dholbach | until we're in DebianImportFreeze | 08:59 |
| dholbach | which isn't until June 25th | 09:00 |
| hyperair | ah i see | 09:04 |
| hyperair | dholbach: do main and universe packages get synced at different frequencies? | 09:04 |
| dholbach | no, I don't think | 09:04 |
| hyperair | dholbach: nautilus-share which i got uploaded to debian a short while ago was after remuco-server, but it's been synced already. | 09:04 |
| hyperair | 0.7.2-8. | 09:05 |
| dholbach | maybe it was an explicit sync request | 09:05 |
| hyperair | hmm | 09:07 |
| hyperair | maybe it was | 09:07 |
| hyperair | so how long does it take for a package to get synced usually? | 09:07 |
| dholbach | hyperair: I don't know - best to ask in #ubuntu-devel | 09:09 |
| hyperair | okay | 09:11 |
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| geser | hyperair: depends on when an archive-admin triggers the autosync | 09:27 |
| hyperair | ah so it's not auto? O_o | 09:27 |
| geser | no, only semi-automatic | 09:35 |
| hyperair | heh | 09:36 |
| hyperair | well i'll just continue waiting then | 09:37 |
| geser | I'm currently not sure if NEW package are included in the autosyncs or if importing them needs to get triggered seperately by an archive-admin | 09:39 |
| geser | according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ArchiveAdministration#Syncs this doesn't happen automatic | 09:43 |
| geser | hyperair: you could ask jdstrand to sync also NEW when he does the archive work today (it's his archive day today) | 09:45 |
| hyperair | ah okay | 09:46 |
| hyperair | nevermind, i'm in no hurry, as long as the package makes it in before debian import freeze =p | 09:46 |
| hyperair | and featurefreeze | 09:46 |
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| maxb | Packages in Debian NEW *cannot* be synced, manually or otherwise | 11:01 |
| maxb | Only after they've been accepted out of Debian NEW | 11:02 |
| DktrKranz | there's no way to access them, OTOH | 11:03 |
| maxb | OTOH? | 11:04 |
| hyperair | maxb: er i meant just came out of NEW. | 11:04 |
| hyperair | DktrKranz: it's remuco-server, which had been ACCEPTED some days ago | 11:04 |
| maxb | Ah, "new" not "NEW" :-) | 11:04 |
| hyperair | =p | 11:04 |
| hyperair | right | 11:04 |
| DktrKranz | hyperair: heh | 11:11 |
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| _ruben | heh .. "funny" version .. Unpacking mysql-client-5.0 (from .../mysql-client-5.0_5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2_i386.deb) ... | 12:48 |
| geser | this is used when a version needs to go backwards (which isn't possible) and one want to avoid adding an epoch (which will need to stay forever) | 12:53 |
| _ruben | so there was a "faulty" 5.1.30 upload at some time i guess? which does seem wrong for a 5.0 package indeed ;) | 12:55 |
| geser | looking a the changelog it seems it was done because the mysql 5.1 packages provided a package which was also build from mysql-5.0 which broke things (or so) | 13:02 |
| _ruben | nice :) | 13:05 |
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| LarstiQ | Hi, what do I have to do to get someone to pay attention to bug 342782 ? | 14:24 |
| ubottu | Launchpad bug 342782 in pyqwt5 "python-qwt5-qt4 will not install on Jaunty" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/342782 | 14:24 |
| kklimonda | LarstiQ: if there is a patch attached subscribe motu-sru | 14:28 |
| LarstiQ | kklimonda: there are, though not really correct, due to python2.5 vs python2.6 site-packages/dist-packages differences. Still subscribe? | 14:29 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: I think the 'hack' probably gives enough hints at the proper solution, so it's worth subscribing. | 14:30 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: The odds go way up if you can get it to work for Qt3/Qt4 on both Python versions. | 14:30 |
| * ScottK worked on trying to figure that package out before release and didn't come up with a solution. | 14:31 | |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: aye, I'll try that if I have some time to burn, will subscribe first | 14:31 |
| ScottK | LarstiQ: If you get it figured, ping me and I'll sponsor it. | 14:32 |
| LarstiQ | ScottK: cool, I will if I do :) | 14:33 |
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| gaspa | dholbach(or any MC member): is it too late to sign for the next MC meeting? | 16:01 |
| Laney | they say 7 days don't they? | 16:02 |
| gaspa | Laney: yep | 16:03 |
| Laney | doesn't it say when the next one is? | 16:03 |
| gaspa | 25th, the next Thursday... | 16:04 |
| gaspa | In fact I'm a bit late... that's why i'm asking. | 16:04 |
| dholbach | gaspa: I personally have no objections | 16:04 |
| gaspa | dholbach: ok, thanks. | 16:07 |
| slayton | the diff.gz that gets generated during build is that only for the debian dir or can it contain patched sources as well? | 16:12 |
| dholbach | slayton: the latter | 16:12 |
| dholbach | if the packages uses a patch system already, it's good if you use that patch system for changes to the actual changes | 16:12 |
| slayton | ok... but sources that are changed from upstream don't require patch files to be accepted? | 16:14 |
| slayton | in revu | 16:14 |
| dholbach | if you prefer working without a patch system that's fine | 16:15 |
| Laney | is it? | 16:16 |
| directhex | crap but permissible ;) | 16:17 |
| dholbach | Laney: sure - we have a bunch of those in the archive | 16:17 |
| dholbach | ask cjwatson for his opinion on patch systems :) | 16:17 |
| Laney | we do, but I wonder if w... | 16:17 |
| * Laney runs | 16:17 | |
| directhex | dholbach, ISTR i did! | 16:17 |
| Laney | how did that end? | 16:17 |
| ScottK | It's also quite invitable for pacakges that use DVCS. | 16:17 |
| directhex | Laney, respectfully, of course! | 16:18 |
| Laney | I think that we should encourage best practices for our new contributors | 16:18 |
| Laney | what that means depends on who you talk to | 16:18 |
| Laney | and circumstances of course (DVCS being one) | 16:18 |
| dholbach | whenever I have to use quilt, I'd prefer straight patches to the source :) | 16:18 |
| directhex | straight patches to the source are easy. | 16:18 |
| directhex | until they stop applying, then they suck | 16:19 |
| Laney | having had to detangle a mess of diff.gz patches, they aren't fun | 16:19 |
| directhex | patch systems are useful because they have an "off" switch, more than anything else | 16:19 |
| dholbach | in any case I wouldn't want to overrule a package maintainer for no good reason | 16:19 |
| dholbach | if it makes your job easier, do whatever you like, but I don't see a lot of use in setting up a policy for it | 16:20 |
| directhex | no, of course, keep the maintainer's decisions | 16:20 |
| directhex | and if it's the first patch, check whether the package conforms to some kind of group policy - i.e. add a patch system if the package follows a policy which mandates one | 16:20 |
| Laney | so if you're sponsoring a new package, should you question it? | 16:21 |
| mok0 | Laney: thank god for splitdiff | 16:55 |
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| mok0 | sebner: are u gonna merge flightgear? | 17:52 |
| sebner | mok0: wll, if you want to do it you are free to take it as I have 3 more weeks of military service todo with hardly any time | 17:55 |
| mok0 | sebner: no time for flight simulator, huh? | 17:56 |
| mok0 | sebner: ok, I'll take care of it | 17:56 |
| sebner | mok0: heh, you don't need if you don't want to. It's just that I'm not really sure if I have enough time for it this weekend or the next one | 17:57 |
| mok0 | sebner: I doing at least one merge a day, so I was looking for one :-) | 17:58 |
| mok0 | sebner: most are reserved | 17:58 |
| kb9vqf | ajmitch: Looks like I won't be able to deal with FDS after all....my main server cluster was just taken out by the severe storms this morning. | 17:59 |
| kb9vqf | ajmitch: Lightning struck within 30 feet and the EMP fried my systems. :-( | 17:59 |
| * kb9vqf is on his laptop for now | 17:59 | |
| kb9vqf | Sorry! :-( | 17:59 |
| sebner | mok0: heh, fine then. I'm also happy to have a new version and when I have more time in future I'm going to play flightgear a lot :D | 17:59 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: i was looking at putting together a system where last contributors get notified of a new merge (sometimes you dont even know!) and then a way to say, feel free for someone else to take it... | 17:59 |
| mok0 | stefanlsd: nice... in principle though, all merges are "free" since we have joint maintainership. | 18:00 |
| mok0 | There have been complaints that the "last-merger-ping-required" policy has slowed down merging | 18:01 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: yeah, although we like to defer to the last uploader as they may have some specific knowledge.. also, I guess people trying to trying to show contributions dont enjoy other people doing there merges... | 18:02 |
| mok0 | stefanlsd: at this point though, the merges have been sitting there since the archive opened a month and a half ago | 18:03 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: i think it has slowed merges alot! also some of the last mergers are not around anymore... | 18:03 |
| mok0 | stefanlsd: right | 18:04 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: my thinking is that the last merger would get notified. if he doesnt do the merge or object to anyone doing it, or say its free - in a certain time period, it would move to a feel free to merge | 18:05 |
| mok0 | stefanlsd: ... is that something you would implement of top of MoM? | 18:05 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: its just thoughts at the moment. not sure where exactly where its gonna go (ideas welcome!0 | 18:08 |
| mok0 | stefanlsd: kk... I think it would fit nicely there | 18:09 |
| stefanlsd | mok0: kk. thanks. i will look into it there... | 18:09 |
| carthik | Is there a guide somewhere on how to take a debian sid package, change a few dependencies and build a package for Ubuntu (jaunty)? | 18:20 |
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| slayton | is there a cdbs variable that can be used to determine which version of GCC is used? | 18:49 |
| azeem | slayton: "CC" | 18:52 |
| slayton | azeem, ty | 18:52 |
| c_korn | when will the next daily build be available? | 18:54 |
| RainCT | omg can't we just set up a filter on the ML which rejects any mail containing the word "mono"? :P | 19:09 |
| slayton | RainCT, what if there is an outbreak of disease? | 19:13 |
| directhex | RainCT_, a new flame war? yays :| | 20:03 |
| directhex | oh, someone trying to push the gnote suggestion on pure "zomg" grounds | 20:04 |
| RainCT_ | directhex: Yeah, I'm starting to get annoyed of such mails.. A few more of them and I'll switch from "anti- but I don't really care" to "pro-mono" ;) | 20:07 |
| directhex | RainCT_, these folks don't seem to understand the harm they do to their argument by acting like f... in a tiresome manner. | 20:08 |
| CarlFK | somone in some #chan (I think here) pointed me to some site that would search PPAs... anyone know what I am talking about? | 20:10 |
| CarlFK | or... anyone know where I can find dia-trunk.deb | 20:10 |
| CarlFK | the version in jaunty has huge issues exporting svg, want to try trunk before I go wining about it | 20:11 |
| kb9vqf | CarlFK: This link should work: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+ppas | 20:12 |
| kb9vqf | CarlFK: Or there's this (unofficial | 20:13 |
| kb9vqf | page: http://ppa-search.appspot.com/ | 20:13 |
| CarlFK | bingo. lets delicious it this time... | 20:14 |
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