[00:21] <erichammond> Marticus: I have no experience with them, but Canonical offers these: http://www.ubuntu.com/training/certificationcourses
[03:25] <Anirban1987> How can I upgrade from php 5.2.6 ( Inbuilt in Ubuntu 9.04 Server ed.) to latest stable ver. php 5.2.9 ?
[03:28] <twb> Anirban1987: upgrade to karmic, the as-yet-unreleased next version of Ubuntu
[03:28] <twb> !cherry-picking
[03:29] <Anirban1987> twb : Can't I upgrade the php in Ubuntu 9.04 itself ?
[03:31] <twb> Anirban1987: you can, but it is not something that a novice should do, because you can screw up your system that way
[03:31] <twb> !pinning
[03:31] <twb> That document explains how
[03:33] <wizardslovak> hello people
[03:33] <wizardslovak> i am having problem with static ip
[03:33] <twb> That doesn't surprise me.
[03:33] <Anirban1987> twb : Can u do it for me if I give u SSH root access to my server ?
[03:34] <wizardslovak> i changed /etc/network/interfaces but when i reset network i am getting error "failed to bring up eth0"
[03:34] <twb> Anirban1987: no, and you should not offer arbitrary IRC denizens such privileges.
[03:34] <twb> wizardslovak: pastebin interfaces
[03:35] <Anirban1987> twb : Can u atleast give me relevant web site links on how to do it ?
[03:35] <ajmitch> Anirban1987: is there a good reason you need to upgrade to 5.2.9?
[03:36] <Anirban1987> ajmitch : I am going to start a web hosting company. Need to practice all those tricks beforehand.
[03:38] <wizardslovak> http://pastebin.com/m15fbc0cd
[03:38] <Anirban1987> ajmitch , twb : Will be thankful if u giv necessary instructions how to do so.
[03:38] <ajmitch> twb did refer to a page about it a few minutes ago
[03:39] <twb> wizardslovak: I can't see anything obviously wrong there, but try removing the gateway line.
[03:40] <twb> wizardslovak: if that doesn't help, pastebin the output of "ifdown --force eth0; ifup eth0".
[03:42] <wizardslovak> ok i removed gateway line and no errors now
[03:47] <Anirban1987> ajmitch : This instruction is very generalized in nature. What to do to specifically update from php 5.2.6 to 5.2.9.
[14:36] <slestak> cjwatson: good morning.  i was lookig for the karmic deb for putty for another workstation.  there doesnt appear to be any branches in LP.  I thought a couple of weeks ago I was able to download 0.60-2009-04-05-1
[14:40] <cjwatson> slestak: didn't you fetch the .deb from Debian?
[14:41] <cjwatson> it hasn't built in Ubuntu yet (https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/putty/0.60+2009-04-05-1/+build/974105) - I need to fix that
[14:41] <slestak> cjwatson: ty, i had forgotten
[14:41] <cjwatson> bunch of whining about strict-aliasing rules which always results in me having to allocate a solid hour to remembering what those actually are and fixing them :)
[14:42] <slestak> cjwatson: pls count on me for testign your deb, i am addicted to that product
[14:42] <slestak> cjwatson: _allocate a solid hour to remembering_ ;)  isnt that what the wiki is for?
[14:43] <slestak> cjwatson: think 64 bit will be an issue for that package?  i'm reinstalling my workstation this morning.
[14:44] <cjwatson> shouldn't be, works fine on Debian
[14:45] <slestak> cjwatson: i was thinking i may contact the debian maintainer and help him out, but... dang, your busy
[14:46] <cjwatson> yep, same guy
[14:48] <slestak> if you get a non-standard package that drops a foo.desktop file on your desktop (yugma|komodo edit), where do we put those so they are available and in the menu for all users on teh box?
[15:00]  * Faust-C gets ready to ditch openfiler and use ubuntu instead
[15:00] <huats> kirkland: hey ! are you available for a little chat regarding your patch on virt-manager ?
[15:01] <kirkland> huats: sure, what's up
[15:01] <huats> OK do you remember writting a patch regarding the access rights to /dev/kvm ?
[15:02] <huats> apparently soren thinks you wrote it :)
[15:03] <axisys> how do I upgrade from 8.04 ?
[15:03] <axisys>  cat /etc/issue
[15:03] <axisys> Ubuntu 8.04.2 \n \l
[15:03] <axisys> sudo do-release-upgrade
[15:03] <axisys> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[15:03] <axisys> No new release found
[15:03] <axisys> hmm..
[15:05] <sgsax> 8.04 is the latest LTS release
[15:06] <huats> kirkland: any memory on that ?
[15:06] <kirkland> huats: please prepend "kirkland" to any messages to me
[15:07] <kirkland> huats: i only look up when my nick is said ;-)
[15:07] <RoyK> for how long is a non-lts-version supported?
[15:07] <kirkland> huats: i think so, maybe, let me grab the source
[15:07] <huats> kirkland: yeah I tend to do the same... I will
[15:07] <huats> kirkland: I can pastebin you the code if you want
[15:09] <axisys> sgsax: so I can only upgrade from LTS to LTS if I use do-release-upgrade ?
[15:09] <sgsax> I don't know, I don't usually do in-place upgrades
[15:09] <sgsax> I was just guessing at that behavior
[15:09] <kirkland> huats: are you talking about debian/patches/test_kvm_perms.patch ?
[15:10] <huats> kirkland: indeed
[15:10] <huats> http://pastebin.com/f25cc64d
[15:11] <kirkland> huats: see: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/virt-manager/+bug/187048
[15:12] <huats> kirkland:  I'd like to talk about it, since I am not sure it is needed to keep it...
[15:13] <huats> kirkland: let me look at the bug
[15:18] <huats> kirkland: right now (on my jaunty) I am not a member of of kvm (and thus I cannot read or write on /dev/kvm) and I can create vm
[15:19] <huats> (I am using qemu usermode with virt-manager which might be the clue in that case)
[15:22] <ScottK> axisys: do-release-upgrade -d
[15:27] <kirkland> huats: okay, i have something due in 30 minutes
[15:27] <huats> kirkland: no pb
[15:27] <kirkland> huats: you mind if i ping you after i get that uploaded ?
[15:27] <huats> kirkland: no pb
[15:27] <huats> kirkland: do what you have to do first
[15:28] <kirkland> huats: cheers; you're welcome to ping me after 30 minutes if i forget :-)
[15:28] <huats> ok
[15:28] <huats> I will
[15:51] <ivoks> huats: mail! :p
[15:51] <huats> ivoks: rrrgggghhh
[15:51] <ivoks> :)
[15:51] <huats> ivoks: will do...
[15:56] <kirkland> huats: yo
[15:56] <kirkland> huats: okay, you have my almost-undivided attention :-)
[15:56] <Faust-C> hmm i might as well start a project to replace openfiler
[15:57] <kirkland> huats: yes, i am responsible for that patch
[15:57] <Faust-C> kinda odd how no one has made a storage distro w/ ubuntu
[15:57] <kirkland> huats: the bug I referred you to has the whole history
[15:57] <kirkland> huats: you're trying to determine if this patch is still required or not?
[15:57] <huats> kirkland: exactly :) that is what I am trying to figure out
[15:58] <kirkland> huats: do you have a /dev/kvm device?
[15:58] <huats> kirkland: I do
[16:01] <kirkland> huats: what are the perms on that device?
[16:02] <huats> kirkland: crw-rw----+ 1 root kvm
[16:03] <kirkland> huats: and what's your groups?
[16:03] <kirkland> huats: id
[16:03] <kirkland> huats: are you in the kvm group, i mean
[16:04] <huats> uid=1000(chris) gid=1000(chris) groupes=4(adm),20(dialout),24(cdrom),33(www-data),46(plugdev),106(lpadmin),121(admin),122(sambashare),1000(chris)
[16:04] <huats> and I am not in the kvm group
[16:04] <kirkland> huats: and you can run virt-manager vm's with kvm acceleration, right?
[16:05] <huats> kirkland: it is the case right
[16:06] <huats> kirkland: any stuffs to test that ?
[16:06] <huats> (to validate because I am 99% sure it is the case)
[16:07] <kirkland> huats: do vm's run slow as snot?
[16:07] <huats> kirkland: nope they all run very well
[16:07] <huats> ...
[16:09] <kirkland> huats: i think this is actually fixed by a hal policy i wrote for kvm
[16:09] <kirkland> huats: grab the kvm source
[16:09] <kirkland>   * Add debian/10-kvm.fdi, debian/org.freedesktop.hal.kvm.policy: hal object
[16:09] <kirkland>     descriptor and policy file for kvm/virt-hardware
[16:09] <kirkland>   * debian/kvm.install; Put the hal/PolicyKit configuration in the correct
[16:09] <kirkland>     place (LP: #273764)
[16:10] <kirkland> huats: i think that should render the virt-manager patch unnecessary
[16:10] <kirkland> bug #273764
[16:10] <huats> kirkland: actually I am running (for a few days)the new virt-manager (that I am about to push) WITHOUT your patch (the one we are talking about here) ... and it runs fine. Further more when I try to create a vm, it says at the end "virt type" "kvm", which tends to say it is useless now
[16:14] <kirkland> huats: okay, and you're definitely NOT in the kvm group?
[16:14] <huats> no I am not
[16:14] <huats> I have also checked the /etc/group file
[16:15] <huats> I am in the admin group, but I am not using sudo and I am not asked for my passwd
[16:15] <huats> kirkland: so I think we can skip it now
[16:17] <kirkland> huats: yeah, it think we're good
[16:17] <huats> ok great
[16:17] <kirkland> huats: in your changelog, where you explain why you drop this patch...
[16:17] <huats> so thanks for your help !
[16:17] <kirkland> huats: please mention LP: #273764
[16:17] <kirkland> huats: thanks for your merge!
[16:17] <kirkland> huats: let me know if you need sponsorship
[16:17] <huats> I will refer to it for sure....
[16:18] <huats> kirkland: will do !
[16:28] <lionel> kirkland: a collegue and I just made a bit of work on bug #243393 . Do you think we can get the onliner fix in the next kernel SRU upload?
[16:30] <ScottK> lionel: I'd ask in #ubuntu-kernel.
[16:31] <lionel> ScottK: that's a good idea. Thanks for the hint
[16:35] <kirkland> lionel: +1 to what ScottK said ;-)
[16:37] <lionel> kirkland: I asked in #ubuntu-kernel, waiting for the answer now :)
[16:39] <sgsax> I'm looking at a little project that will correlate USN reports with package update status
[16:39] <sgsax> are the reports available in raw xml and/or in a more concise (brief) format?
[16:41] <mathiaz> kees: jdstrand: mdeslaur: ^^
[16:43] <jdstrand> sgsax: https://code.launchpad.net/~ubuntu-security/ubuntu-cve-tracker/master should have everything you need
[16:44] <jdstrand> sgsax: there is also an rss feed at http://www.ubuntu.com/taxonomy/term/2/0/feed
[16:44] <sgsax> yes, I've been using the rss feed standalone in tbird, I'm wanting to do some scripting with it
[16:51] <sgsax> thanks, I'll look at that
[16:52] <axisys> ScottK: hmm.. just saw your comment
[16:53] <axisys> ScottK: it says not recommended to use -d
[16:53] <ScottK> axisys: -d is overloaded.  It means upgrade to the development release and also upgrade to the next non-LTS release.
[16:53] <axisys> ScottK: oh ok.. thnx
[16:53] <ScottK> Assuming you want to upgrade to Intrepid (and then maybe Jaunty) that's what you want.
[16:54] <ScottK> The warning is about the development release.
[16:54] <axisys> ScottK: u assumed correct
[16:54] <axisys> ScottK: did not work
[16:54] <axisys> ScottK: sudo do-release-upgrade -d
[16:54] <axisys> [sudo] password for iqbala:
[16:54] <axisys> Checking for a new ubuntu release
[16:54] <axisys> No new release found
[16:55] <ScottK> axisys: Don't know what to tell you.  It worked on my Hardy server when I tried it just now.
[16:56] <axisys> ScottK: hmm there might a file somewhere .. i forgot the name .. that it reads .. let me do strace
[17:00] <axisys> /etc/update-manager/release-upgrades says Prompt=normal .. still not doing it..
[17:18] <ivoks> did you update before that?
[17:19] <kees> sgsax: specifically what report are you trying to generate?  (we may already have a tool for it...)
[17:21] <sgsax> kees: a very simple one, are you familiar with gentoo's glsa-check?
[17:40] <huats> kirkland: I need to run, but LP: #389564 is ready with u-s-m subscribe
[17:41] <huats> please comment or mail me if something is wrong !
[17:44] <sgsax> basically, what I'd ultimately like to be able to do is extract a simple package name, version number, and one-sentence summary from the USN
[17:44] <sgsax> that is relevant to the local machine
[17:44] <sgsax> the first two parts should be simple, the abbreviated summary I was hoping to find an existing source to draw from
[18:11] <miked> I posted this to the server listserv but realized I should've tried this first: does anyone know how to get mibII/mta_sendmail module support for the snmpd package that is available via the repos?
[18:20] <axisys> i did the sudo apt-get update  before that .. if that question was for me
[18:20] <axisys> !seen ivoks
[18:21] <axisys> seems like ivoks left
[18:21] <axisys> and seen is not a valid command either
[18:32] <grumpling> Sorry if I repeat my question too soon but, does anyone know how to get mibII/mta_sendmail module support in for the snmpd package that is in the repos?
[18:33] <kees> sgsax: I'm not, sorry
[18:47] <JackB21> buena historia
[18:47] <kees> is there a way to preseed debconf questions so I'm not prompted during apt-get install ?  hrm
[18:48] <mathiaz> kees: debconf-set-selections?
[18:49]  * kees reads manpage
[18:51] <kees> mathiaz: hm, will debconf-set-selections take a subset?  i.e. running it with just the package's settings won't wipe everything else?
[18:51] <mathiaz> kees: I don't think so
[18:52] <mathiaz> kees: IIUC debconf-set-selections can be used to preseed specific questions
[18:52] <kees> mathiaz: cool, that's perfect
[18:53] <mathiaz> kees: I don't think it wipes the rest of the debconf database (that would be odd)
[18:53] <kees> the manpage worried me :)
[19:39] <sgsax> kees: glsa-check basically looks at the current list of glsa's (comparable to usn's), compares it to the list of currently installed packages, and generates a list of packages that are out-of-date and vulnerable
[19:39] <emptyrobotboy> I have ubuntu server 8.04 LTS and I have a PHP script that uses curl to open a website. This is failing at curl_init(). Do I need to install additional libraries? If so, how?
[19:39] <kees> sgsax: ah, but wouldn't "apt-get install dist-upgrade" show the same list?
[19:40] <kees> sgsax: or do you want it finer grained?
[19:40] <kees> sgsax: I wonder if nxvl has anything like this yet.
[19:40] <sgsax> I'm doing something similar by parsing output from -s dist-upgrade
[19:41] <sgsax> the glsa-check goes one step further by adding the vuln ID and a very terse summary of the vuln
[19:41] <sgsax> so you can easily look up the vuln and decide if it's an urgent threat or not
[19:48] <sgsax> kees: sample output: http://pastebin.com/mbfed63
[21:03] <centaur5> Can you mix kickstart preseed options with d-i options in the same file?
[21:04] <HaiHarry> sorry, this is a test
[21:10] <benc1> can someone recommend a book for learning how ubuntu/linux works?
[21:10] <benc1> I have basic ubuntu knowledge but I want to learn about the internals
[21:13] <HaiHarry> Have you read ubuntu server guide
[21:13] <HaiHarry> which is available for download from ubuntu site
[21:14] <benc1> HaiHarry: no. I'll start with that
[21:15] <benc1> HaiHarry: I'm looking for more basic linux understanding about threads, processes and sockets
[21:16] <benc1> HaiHarry: actually this guide looks great. thanks
[21:28] <HaiHarry> benc1: you are welcome
[22:24] <bobg> the tcp_congestion_control on my hardy xen kernel is set to "reno" and apparently reno is the only one compiled into the kernel (tcp_available_congestion_control =="reno"). What would I need to do to try "bic"
[22:26] <bobg> the reason I notice is that I have a switch problem thats causing packet loss to all of our servers, but only the Ubuntu servers are choking on it. A similar debian etch server has "bic" and the packet loss is hardly noticable
[22:47] <petx> hi all... is there something that can scan windows shared folder...??
[22:48] <bobg> try smbtree
[22:49] <bobg> i think there are a couple smb* commands that do things like that
[22:50] <petx> bobg, what command??
[22:53] <bobg> smbtree
[22:53] <petx> bobg, yups... I've tried it..
[22:54] <petx> bobg, but I'm confused.. I mean  the GUI scanner may be... any clue...??
[22:55] <bobg> i don't understand "the GUI scanner..." what do you mean by "scan"
[22:58] <petx> bobg, hmm... I meant the GUI shared folder scanner like smbtree command.. but it appears by GUI...
[22:59] <petx> something like places -> network...
[22:59] <jared555> hello, with ubuntu server I am trying to create a LVM virtual machine with vmbuilder.  anyone know why specifying a LVM partition using --raw returns an error?  it is the kvm hypervisor
[23:02] <jared555> err... it doesn't return an error.... it just creates a VM that will start and nothing else
[23:17] <bobg> petx: don't know -- sorry. I don't run a gui on my servers
[23:18] <petx> bobg, owh ok... thx...
[23:19] <bobg> anyone know a good channel for network tuning and analysis?
[23:20] <bobg> i want to find out why ubuntu uses reno and not bic or cubic that are the default in modern kernels (according to wikipedia tcp congestion page)