| MTecknology | newz2000: are you ignoring me? :P | 06:13 |
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| knome | MTecknology, no, i'm ignoring him. | 06:50 |
| knome | ermm.. ;) | 06:50 |
| SiDi | hi hi | 06:50 |
| SiDi | you ignore me, knome ? :'( | 06:51 |
| knome | morning SiDi! | 06:51 |
| knome | nope. i ignore nobody. | 06:51 |
| SiDi | and why do you ignore him ? | 06:51 |
| knome | that was a joke. | 06:51 |
| MTecknology | I have one ignore - 0:51 1 root: MSGS | 06:51 |
| knome | i have ignores as well, but they are only ignores for different types of messages in channels | 06:52 |
| knome | eg. joins and parts in boring channels ;P | 06:52 |
| knome | like ermmmm... #ubuntu-website :P | 06:52 |
| MTecknology | that's pretty much what mine is for too | 06:53 |
| MTecknology | bitlbee | 06:53 |
| SiDi | mine ignores any message | 06:53 |
| SiDi | /ignore * | 06:53 |
| SiDi | yes, i'm ignoring both of you right now ! | 06:53 |
| SiDi | stop ignoring me Q.Q | 06:55 |
| knome | MTecknology, i have an irssi script that makes the bitlbee root messages more readable (and also so short that they fit a normal terminal window) and modifies their type so that they don't create "activity" | 06:55 |
| MTecknology | nice | 06:56 |
| MTecknology | I'll have to grab it sometime :P | 06:56 |
| MTecknology | irss.org? | 06:56 |
| knome | http://blog.knome.fi/files/2007/02/fixbbpl.txt | 06:56 |
| knome | nope, only private use ;) | 06:56 |
| knome | it might be a bit crappy code, but hey, it works. | 06:57 |
| MTecknology | I'll try it out sometime, thanks | 06:57 |
| knome | np. | 06:58 |
| * MTecknology goes back to coding svg and all the annoying they come with | 06:58 | |
| knome | oh wow, that email is outdated | 06:58 |
| knome | i don't even have access to it anymore | 06:58 |
| newz2000 | MTecknology: not ignore you, are you trying to reach me? | 14:43 |
| MTecknology | newz2000: regarding that tarball I sent you a while ago :) | 19:35 |
| newz2000 | oh, no, not ignoring you per se | 19:35 |
| newz2000 | but I am consistently failing to reply | 19:36 |
| MTecknology | I was just curious if you ever got around to look at it :P | 19:36 |
| MTecknology | then I was going to ask what you thought | 19:36 |
| newz2000 | I did look at it and I'm still not sure what I'm looking at. I'm not sure what problem it solves and I don't understand the solution. | 19:37 |
| newz2000 | let me open the tarball again, just a min | 19:37 |
| MTecknology | You're familiar with Drupal. Do you have your own drupal site? | 19:38 |
| newz2000 | yes | 19:38 |
| MTecknology | It's just text files for each banner option. | 19:38 |
| newz2000 | each text file contains a reference to the js file (a script tag) | 19:38 |
| MTecknology | I'd prefer it if instead I were able to just grab a tarball of the entire thing, but because you guys control the minute the banner switches to showing as released, it's not really possible | 19:39 |
| MTecknology | The project is lp:drupal-ubuntu-countdown | 19:41 |
| newz2000 | a tarball of the entire "what"? | 19:41 |
| MTecknology | all the images and everything needed so there's no need for your servers to get hammered | 19:42 |
| newz2000 | a tarball of the images is certainly possible | 19:43 |
| newz2000 | the only thing that gets tricky is to know when the image "it's here" should show | 19:43 |
| MTecknology | that's what I was referring to | 19:43 |
| newz2000 | but currently what I do is modify the js file | 19:44 |
| newz2000 | it's not a big deal to modify something else so that your script can detect the change | 19:44 |
| newz2000 | you may have noticed that the js doesn't appear to change for an hour or two after release... | 19:44 |
| newz2000 | this is because of our caching rules changing | 19:45 |
| MTecknology | ya, I did actually | 19:45 |
| MTecknology | You could log into the website and clear cache | 19:45 |
| newz2000 | this trigger we're referring to would suffer the same problem | 19:45 |
| newz2000 | we do that | 19:45 |
| MTecknology | oh | 19:45 |
| newz2000 | well, wait | 19:45 |
| newz2000 | we modify the servers in the day or days before release to prevent shift+reload from working | 19:46 |
| newz2000 | the caches basically get a static copy of the site | 19:46 |
| newz2000 | then we release the caches for a moment when it's time to release | 19:46 |
| newz2000 | and then again shortly after release | 19:46 |
| newz2000 | it's this second tiem that the js and banners change | 19:47 |
| newz2000 | might be 15 min after or 2 hours after, but right in there | 19:47 |
| newz2000 | anyway, your trigger script that detects the change would be subject to the same delay | 19:47 |
| newz2000 | it's really not a big deal | 19:47 |
| newz2000 | but if all you want is a trigger we can do it | 19:47 |
| MTecknology | would you be willing to host a tarball for it as well? | 19:48 |
| MTecknology | I don't have the bandwidth to offer for that sort of thing? I get 50mb up but my bandwidth/month is pretty low | 19:48 |
| newz2000 | well, we host it on the wiki currently | 19:48 |
| MTecknology | where? | 19:48 |
| newz2000 | wiki.ubuntu.com/Website | 19:49 |
| newz2000 | there's a page for the countdown banners and we put it there somewhere | 19:49 |
| newz2000 | what is the purpose of the tarball, is it somehting your script will automatically grab? If so we should not host it on the wiki | 19:49 |
| MTecknology | ya, that's it purpose | 19:49 |
| newz2000 | so instead we should create a ppa or something similar | 19:50 |
| newz2000 | otherwise someone could stuff the tarball with nasty php or something | 19:50 |
| newz2000 | or we could just agree on a naming scheme for the files | 19:50 |
| newz2000 | and host them on ubuntu.com | 19:50 |
| newz2000 | what we should do is hold off for just a bit | 19:51 |
| MTecknology | hrm... how hard would it be to pull a ppa w/ php? | 19:51 |
| newz2000 | probably hard. :-) | 19:51 |
| newz2000 | I'm working on a solution to host static content | 19:51 |
| newz2000 | for ubuntu.com and the related websites | 19:51 |
| newz2000 | I'm hoping to have some progress soon | 19:51 |
| MTecknology | alrighty | 19:51 |
| newz2000 | it would be the ideal place for this stuff | 19:51 |
| MTecknology | I'll look into the ppa as well, just since that sounds like it could be a fun idea | 19:52 |
| newz2000 | sure | 19:52 |
| newz2000 | we could probably put a redirect in place on ubuntu.com that points to the final location of the files | 19:52 |
| newz2000 | it would only change once each release around the beta period | 19:52 |
| MTecknology | You should take a peek at the source code sometime, or try out the module :) - I think I did pretty decent work on it | 19:54 |
| MTecknology | Everything I'm producing I'm going to try to port to D5 when it's all done | 19:54 |
| newz2000 | ok, I will | 19:55 |
| MTecknology | I'll wait a week or two before I poke you again :) | 19:55 |
| MTecknology | or more if you prefer... somehow I get the feeling you're a busy person :P | 19:55 |
| newz2000 | well, there's always more to do than I can do, so it just comes down to priorities | 19:56 |
| newz2000 | this will probably increase in priority as it nears time to release banners again | 19:56 |
| MTecknology | holy crap... | 19:57 |
| MTecknology | why ppa... | 19:57 |
| newz2000 | yeah, bad idea | 19:57 |
| newz2000 | that's just for debs | 19:57 |
| MTecknology | but no reason we can't do something like https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-releases/6.x/6.3.2 | 19:57 |
| MTecknology | We could use a redirect on ubuntu.com to point at w/e | 19:58 |
| MTecknology | what's your opinion on that? | 20:00 |
| newz2000 | I think we can do better | 20:00 |
| MTecknology | you don't like the launchpad idea? | 20:01 |
| newz2000 | wait, is this to a .deb file or can we host any file there? | 20:01 |
| newz2000 | oh, any file | 20:01 |
| newz2000 | yes, that's good | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | yup | 20:01 |
| newz2000 | sure | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | http://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu-drupal-releases/6.x/6.3.2/+download/ubuntu-drupal.tgz | 20:01 |
| MTecknology | It's look something like http://launchpad.net/drupal-ubuntu-countdown/head/jaunty/+download/jaunty-banners.tgz | 20:03 |
| MTecknology | not only that, but then I can have my group keep owning the code, but I can also add you ~ubuntu-website as maintainers so if I randomly die then you guys can keep it up to date | 20:04 |
| MTecknology | You think that's a good idea then? Or do you still want to look for better? | 20:05 |
| newz2000 | that'll work | 20:06 |
| MTecknology | we might still want a file the javascript can scan to see if it's been released or not | 20:06 |
| MTecknology | I can easily make it so if the pointer is pointing at the same location as before then it won't pull new cache too | 20:09 |
| MTecknology | newz2000: is there any way you could send me a tarball of all the images and everything else for the current release? | 20:11 |
| newz2000 | they're on that wiki page | 20:11 |
| newz2000 | that's the best place to get them | 20:11 |
| MTecknology | I love launchpad bugs.... | 20:16 |
| MTecknology | newz2000: Any chance you could make a pointer that points here? http://edge.launchpad.net/drupal-ubuntu-countdown/banners/jaunty/+download/countdown.tgz | 20:17 |
| MTecknology | I know it'll sit there because I just created it :P | 20:18 |
| newz2000 | MTecknology: I'd rather not | 20:23 |
| newz2000 | the reason is because I want to make sure we have a solid qa process before we put a redirect in from ubuntu.com | 20:23 |
| MTecknology | good point | 20:24 |
| MTecknology | what is one redirect that you have setup? | 20:25 |
| newz2000 | MTecknology: what do you mean? | 20:25 |
| MTecknology | Do you have any redirects currently? | 20:26 |
| MTecknology | I just wanted to see what curl showed me about them | 20:26 |
| newz2000 | ok, sure | 20:26 |
| newz2000 | let me find one | 20:26 |
| newz2000 | http://www.ubuntu.com/cloud | 20:27 |
| MTecknology | interesting | 20:29 |
| MTecknology | So I'll probably pull the redirect and see if it points at a new location fromt eh one saved in the db and if it is different then pull a new copy | 20:31 |
| MTecknology | Thanks :D | 20:31 |
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