[00:00] <stealth-> kiki67100: maybe my .local?
[00:00] <stealth-> ill check
[00:00] <kiki67100> stealth-, rm -r .gnome ?
[00:00] <Xet> Hello I did what you told me hatter243 but nothing...
[00:00] <Xet> Its still the same
[00:01] <max_> How can I change my account locales? I've tried 'dpkg-reconfigure localepurge' but that didnt reset it. I can't seem to get it to use 12hr time.
[00:01] <stealth-> kiki67100: no, that doesnt work, I think it has to be .local, then
[00:01] <stealth-> kiki67100: would something like screen-configurations.xml cause it?
[00:01] <Xet> anyone knows? It doesn't load after the splash screen, just the black background and the mouse wheel
[00:01] <kiki67100> stealth-, I don't no but you can also copy all config of your new user
[00:02] <Stephen_> hmmm... no go on #java
[00:02] <kiki67100> stealth-, cp  -f /home/newuser/*. $HOME
[00:02] <stealth-> kiki67100: yeah, but im kinda reluctant, cause im not sure what I would be loosing
[00:02] <caodagua> hi guys
[00:03] <supreme> hi
[00:03] <kiki67100> stealth-, if not, backup your config, and copy all config of your new user
[00:04] <stealth-> kiki67100: k
[00:04] <kiki67100> stealth-, mkdir backup;cp -r $HOME/*.  backup
[00:04] <caodagua> anyone available to tell me how to delete a filename  in my home dir and my portabe HD  ?    filename :        "?_@1_1"      yes, I wrote it well loool
[00:04] <unko> hey guys, can someone help me make a script for launching the expo and widget layer eatures in compiz?
[00:04] <kiki67100> stealth-, if you've afraid to lose something
[00:04] <caodagua> I suspect virus
[00:04] <Xet> Hello sorry the bother but I really need this what's going on? It doesn't load after the splash screen, just the black background and the mouse wheel
[00:05] <stealth-> caodagua: linux doesnt have any virus issues
[00:05] <stealth-> !av | caodagua
[00:05] <meho_r> caodagua: you can't delete it usual way? What does it say when you try?
[00:05] <caodagua> filename don't exist or something
[00:06] <crdlb> unko: see http://forum.compiz-fusion.org/showthread.php?t=7359
[00:06] <caodagua> i've try everything      dd           hexedit       shred
[00:06] <stamped> hey guys
[00:06] <stamped> i just installed ubutun
[00:06] <meho_r> caodagua: You tried delete it from Terminal?
[00:06] <stamped> ubuntu
[00:06] <caodagua> yes
[00:06] <unko> ok crdlb
[00:06] <caodagua> file does not exist
[00:06] <caodagua> but if I do a ls -la there it is
[00:06] <caodagua> tryed chmod
[00:06] <caodagua> everything I remember
[00:07] <meho_r> caodagua: Strange. Can you write the name again?
[00:07] <caodagua> and already did a axaustive search in google
[00:07] <caodagua> ok
[00:09] <caodagua> ?.gvfs        <----     this is another in my home dir     it apears in red
[00:10] <max_> Can someone please help me change my Locale. I've tried just about everything to change my time to 12hr format and cant do it.
[00:10] <caodagua> meho.  ?.gvfs        <----     this is another in my home dir     it apears in red
[00:10] <Linuz2009> Why does a window shows up whenever I login?
[00:10] <caodagua> meho_r,                   ?.gvfs        <----     this is another in my home dir     it apears in red
[00:10] <crdlb> caodagua: ~/.gvfs is the location of FUSE mounts used by gvfs
[00:10] <Linuz2009> saying that I need to enter my default keyring?
[00:10] <crdlb> it's harmless
[00:11] <caodagua> I let at work downloading some forhensic distros to try to solve
[00:11] <caodagua> no
[00:11] <yowshi> grrr almost had it with the ishtal solution but the thing jammesd or something
[00:11] <Linuz2009> anybody had a idea>
[00:11] <liyong> yo
[00:12] <Helpless> hi all , iam searching for an tool
[00:12] <sedontane> hi how do I updte my linux kernel? I am running 8.10 with the 2.6.27 kernel - I need 2.6.28 or higher
[00:12] <meho_r> max_: Right click on time applet and Preferences?
[00:12] <yowshi> can someone please help me get my joystick working like a mouse?
[00:12] <liyong> 哟uzhon
[00:12] <Helpless> with which i can edit animated giffiles
[00:12] <caodagua> crdlb,       this is the filename   ------->      "~/?.gvfs"
[00:12] <yowshi> !joystick
[00:12] <liyong> sds
[00:12] <max_> meho_r: That was the first thing i tried. Its set to pH. The clock displays 12hr formatting, but everything else that looks to my locale to get formatting uses 24hr.
[00:13] <caodagua> crdlb     crdlb,       this is the filename   ------->      "~/?.gvfs"
[00:13] <meho_r> caodagua: Is it possible that you have some "strange" characters in those names? There are lot of spaces in what you posted here
[00:13] <liyong> 有中国的吗！
[00:13] <wbc> Hello
[00:13] <Helpless> hi
[00:13] <Linuz2009> there's no people who speak cihnese
[00:13] <caodagua> meho_r         ahhh   the date of the file is 1970
[00:13] <liyong> 有懂zhong文
[00:13] <meho_r> caodagua: :-)
[00:14] <Linuz2009> go to QQ.
[00:14] <caodagua> ?.gvfs
[00:14] <kiki67100> Linuz2009, 机械效率
[00:14] <meho_r> caodagua: did you try with sudo rm?
[00:14] <caodagua> lol
[00:14] <ZykoticK9> yowshi, i've had my pointer accidentally be controlled by the joystick on a number of occasions -- but it could never get to the corners -- is i'm not really sure you'll be able to use a joystick successfully as a mouse.  Good luck man.
[00:14] <meho_r> caodagua: use it on your own risk
[00:14] <liyong> 嗨
[00:15] <wbc> I have a DVD-R folder on my machine (VIDEO_TS, AUDIO_TS). How may I use MPlayer to open the folder as a dvd-r?
[00:15] <meho_r> caodagua: sudo rm and then type first character of the file and then press tab key on keyboard
[00:15] <sedontane> how do I updte my linux kernel? I am running 8.10 with the 2.6.27 kernel - I need 2.6.28 or higher
[00:15] <milo_> please I need help with my sound in ubuntu...it was working till this evening but it stopped working in Gnome. I have Gnome and KDE ; it is still working in KDE but not in Gnome...
[00:15] <caodagua> meho_r    i tryed already everything you can imagine
[00:15] <kiki67100> sedontane, apt-get dist-upgrade ?
[00:16] <yowshi> ZykoticK9: i almost had it https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Joystick_lshal_outputs_done with that page but the thing jammed on me
[00:16] <Linuz2009> anyone know how to disable the window that ask you for your keyring?
[00:16] <caodagua> even booting a live distro from pen with hexedit
[00:16] <liyong> 我来自中国的
[00:16] <kiki67100> sedontane, before do : apt-get update
[00:16] <sedontane> kiki67100: I dont understand
[00:16] <meho_r> caodagua: boot in single user mode?
[00:17] <kiki67100> sedontane, apt-get dist-upgrade
[00:17] <kiki67100> to update your linux kernel
[00:17] <caodagua> in recovery ?
[00:17] <caodagua> meho_r    in recovery ?
[00:17] <meho_r> caodagua: BTW, I just created a file ?_@1_1 and deleted it no problem
[00:18] <wbc> Is it possible to mount a folder as a DVD in Ubuntu 9.04?
[00:18] <caodagua> yes but your file doesn't have 1970 where other files have the field for the hour of the files
[00:18] <sedontane> kiki67100: that does nothing
[00:18] <Linuz2009> hello? keyring window pops up when login.
[00:19] <meho_r> caodagua: just a sec.
[00:19] <Xiuhtecuhtli> hi
[00:19] <Guest67471> hi
[00:19] <caodagua> sorry 4 the language .... but here goes :     I'm not shlting you
[00:20] <Linuz2009> anyone here know how to resolve my problem?
[00:20] <glitsj16> wbc: have you tried the suggestions for mplayer at http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=617196 yet?
[00:20] <Xiuhtecuhtli> wuts wrong linuz
[00:20] <sedontane> Linuz2009: Im guessing yo have a wireless internet connection?
[00:20] <Linuz2009> yes
[00:20] <sedontane> Linuz2009: me too - thats what the keyring is for
[00:20] <Linuz2009> did you resolve it sedontane?
[00:20] <sedontane> Linuz2009: I would love to learn how to bypass it also
[00:21] <Linuz2009> I've heard its in the login folder sedontane
[00:21] <hypn0> anyone tried firefox3.5 from https://launchpad.net/~ubuntu-mozilla-daily/+archive/ppa is it safe to have 3.0.x and 3.5 installed at same time?
[00:21] <wbc> glitsj16; I tried something similiar, but it did just open a window with the movie, as in the small window with play-bar and such were not there. But I will try this
[00:21] <sedontane> kiki67100: I have no options in synaptic for upgrading higher than 2.6.27, a guy earlier mentioned ppa?
[00:22] <glitsj16> hypn0: ys it's safe, the get a separate profile and start command
[00:22] <caodagua> meho_r can I send you a printscreen ?
[00:22] <camel_> Can someone please help me with a quick question?
[00:22] <caodagua> so you see what is going on
[00:22] <meho_r> caodagua: Post it on imageshack or similar
[00:22] <Guest71209> How do i install jack through package manager because i dont think its working correctly , i installed it through terminal , and im thinking it missed a file
[00:22] <sedontane> !anyone
[00:22] <hypn0> glitsj16, okay, thanks, i might try then :-)
[00:22] <caodagua> ??
[00:23] <wbc> glitsj16; Same problem, the playbar won't open. Just a window with the movie itself
[00:23] <glitsj16> hypn0: you're welcome, enjoy testing the 3.5
[00:23] <caodagua> imageshack ?
[00:23] <meho_r> caodagua: Post it on some site and send me a link
[00:23] <caodagua> ahh ok
[00:23] <caodagua> 1 m.
[00:23] <wbc> glitsj16: Is there a shortcut to open the playbar window?
[00:23] <sedontane> camel_: ask your question
[00:23] <meho_r> caodagua: I'm not sure if you can send it directly to me
[00:23] <camel_> I am trying to install my irc chat server using irc-hybrid
[00:23] <camel_> and I always get connection refused
[00:23] <camel_> how can I fix that?
[00:24] <glitsj16> wbc: i haven't got a folder to test on, but i have never had any issues opening those with totem-xine (which has dvd menu support etc) .. sorry, i don't know of any shortcut no
[00:24] <Digital-Pioneer> Hey, does 32-bit Ubuntu have a kernel package for systems with >4GB of RAM?
[00:24] <steph291> hi every one !
[00:24] <kiki67100> sedontane, apt-cache search linux-image
[00:24] <Helpless> hi steph
[00:24] <sedontane> camel_: Have you checked for a firewall issue
[00:24] <wbc> glitsj16: Is xine lighter than mplayer?
[00:25] <camel_> yeah and I tried to change the IP tables to allow port 6667
[00:25] <Helpless> camel i think i know the error
[00:25] <sedontane> kiki67100: THANKS WILL TRY THAT NOW
[00:25] <camel_> do you have another idea
[00:25] <sedontane> soz caps
[00:25] <camel_> what is it?
[00:25] <steph291> I just installed DDD and get the famous error "init.c not found" How do I get around that ?
[00:25] <glitsj16> wbc: can't see much difference between them no (and this is on an older laptop)
[00:26] <Linuz2009> what's the PPA?
[00:26] <camel_> helpless - do you have an idea?
[00:26] <sedontane> kiki67100: aan just the 2,6,27 kernels
[00:26] <Guest71209> anyone know the page on how to install jack through Synaptic
[00:26] <caodagua> meho_r i'm creating an acount on a free server
[00:26] <kiki67100> sedontane, try to change your depot
[00:27] <meho_r> caodagua, ok
[00:27] <sedontane> kiki67100: my depot?
[00:27] <kiki67100> Yeah, /etc/source.list
[00:27] <Guest71209> anyone know the page on how to install jack through Synaptic
[00:27] <meho_r> caodagua: BTW, a little offtopic, you may register at Dropbox for images and files sharing :)
[00:27] <kiki67100> * /etc/apt/sources.list
[00:27] <sedontane> kiki67100: ok might need a helping hand with that one kiki
[00:28] <steph291> so with the problem with my debugger ?
[00:28] <camel_> I am trying to set up an irc server using irc-hybrid and when I try to connect to my local server at 127.0.0.1, I get the connetion refused message. Can anyone help me?
[00:28] <steph291> it's a common problem
[00:29] <SethLutz> When I installed Ubuntu and rebooted my computer, I got the dualbooter and when I select Ubuntu, I got a comand prompt.
[00:29] <kiki67100> sedontane, sorry I have to go, now
[00:29] <mib_b9avnd> im trying to usea audacity but nothing will make sound in audacity
[00:29] <mib_b9avnd> playback is set to ALSA intel now to match the playback setting in my multimedia settings, i still get no sound
[00:29] <caodagua> i'm trying send directly ... it's a PNG file, not a virus, so don't be worried
[00:29] <kiki67100> sedontane, maybe tomorrow
[00:29] <ongolaBoy> what's the best way to install flash ? via the browser or through aptitude ?
[00:29] <caodagua> meho_r,   i'm trying send directly ... it's a PNG file, not a virus, so don't be worried
[00:29] <meho_r> caodagua let's see
[00:30] <neothecat> hello.  i have dual monitors setup with twinview.  when i run UrbanTerrror, i only see the left half of the game
[00:30] <neothecat> anybody dealt with this before?
[00:30] <meho_r> caodagua seems it won't go
[00:31] <caodagua> :(
[00:31] <Xiuhtecuhtli> myhotphoto.png.exe
[00:31] <meho_r> caodagua upload it on imageshack.us and send me the link
[00:31] <caodagua> have mail ? where I can send it ?
[00:31] <caodagua> meho_r, don't know the service, but i'll try
[00:31] <caodagua> 1 m.-
[00:32] <steph291> I played Soldier of Furtune 2 on my ubuntu dualdisplay, it works perfectly
[00:32] <meho_r> caodagua :-) OK
[00:32] <neothecat> steph291: ok, thanks.  that was helpful.
[00:32] <SethLutz> Can someone help me.
[00:32] <mikevankuik> I've got ubuntu server edition i386 version 9.10 can you advise me a software driven virtualization solution?
[00:32] <neothecat> btw, i am using twinview
[00:32] <caodagua> meho_r,  very usefull service .... :)    tnks man
[00:33] <solomon> is there any handy info around on dealing with the jaunty installer not managing to install grub properly on a raid0?
[00:33] <LinuX2half> is there firefox 3.5 for ubuntu?
[00:33] <steph291> neothecat : maybe you need to "add" some direct files to your installation
[00:33] <Guest43555> does anyone know software that will work with out Jack and will let you select a different soundcard for each different track -- ( im using 3 different sound cards and alsa auto detects all three and the work but jack sucks and doesnt work and same with ardour
[00:33] <solomon> i get 'error 25' from grub
[00:33] <meho_r> caodagua :-) No problem
[00:33] <steph291> *directx
[00:33] <solomon> i think maybe it didn't install it to the right drive or something
[00:33] <mathew> Hello
[00:33] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: You mean like VirtualBox?
[00:33] <fccf> mikevankuik: 9.10 is karmic and not released to the public yet .. for info on it see #ubuntu+1 for virtualization question see #vbox
[00:33] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: not sure :) is it free software? :)
[00:34] <neothecat> steph291: huh?
[00:34] <mikevankuik> fccf I must be mistaking then with 9.04 :) my bad :)
[00:34] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: VirtualBox OSE is Open Source while VirtualBox PUEL is free with a licence
[00:34] <milo_> can someone help me?
[00:35] <kaybash> anyone know why the bluetooth app isnt finding my nokia phone or any other devices for that matter?
[00:35] <SethLutz> Please!
[00:35] <Pall_Maul> Have any Dell laptop users here ever had their Broadcom network controller disabled and undetectable after using ndiswrapper to install the wireless driver?
[00:35] <fccf> !ask
[00:36] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: what are the differences in spec? does the PUEL version does anything the OSE doesnt?
[00:36] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: Big difference is that the PUEL version offers usb support
[00:36] <fccf> Paul_Maul: I don't see the need for ndis on the dell's ... b43-fwcutter works fine
[00:36] <kaybash> Is there anything that needs to be done to the bluetooth device ?
[00:36] <glitsj16> LinuX2half: http://www.ubuntu-inside.me/2009/05/daily-firefox-35-36-repository-for.html has the details on how to get firefox 3.5
[00:36] <dtchen> Pall_Maul: that seems realistic, since you would have disabled the wl STA driver
[00:36] <desis> Does ubuntu server by default install Backuppc?
[00:37] <fccf> desis: no
[00:37] <sedontane> how do I updte my linux kernel? I am running 8.10 with the 2.6.27 kernel - I need 2.6.28 or higher.  have tried the standard apt methods (GUI and terminal)
[00:37] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: I use VirtualBox extensively ---> very nice software
[00:37] <Pall_Maul> Is there anyway I can get a wired connection then?
[00:38] <LinuX2half> is firefox 3.5 shiretoko?
[00:38] <caodagua> meho_r,       yfrog.com/66capturedgpp
[00:38] <kaybash> Someone please help with with this damn Bluetooth !
[00:38] <regeya> LinuX2half: yes
[00:38] <php_penguin1> Hi - anyone know how to change thumbnail settings back to how they were in 7.04?
[00:38] <caodagua> meho_r, don't forget the  http
[00:38] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: that's a pretty big difference idd  :) but as long as the ethernet port works I'm fine :) I want to separate my database and my webserver :) so virtualization of those would be perfect so I don't need to setup a second box (and I could use it as a backup system in stead :P)
[00:39] <meho_r> caodagua I see...
[00:39] <jdu> php_penguin1: probably in nautilus preferences, but I'm not sure how they were in 7.10
[00:39] <LinuX2half> but someone told that can cause crashes
[00:39] <php_penguin1> jdu: specifcally, images that are natively smaller than the thumbnail size shouldn't be thumbnail'ed
[00:39] <LinuX2half> its not an official mozilla web browser
[00:39] <meho_r> caodagua What's about first one?
[00:39] <Unislash> hey all, i'm trying to allocate more memory to Apophysis-J (a java version of Apophysis) via command line... how would i go about doing that?
[00:39] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: There is a section of the Ubuntu forums especially devoted to Virtualisation
[00:40] <meho_r> caodagua that file with strange name?
[00:40] <jdu> php_penguin1: I'm not sure then.
[00:40] <kaybash> Bus 003 Device 003: ID 045e:0708 Microsoft Corp. Transceiver v 3.0 for Bluetooth
[00:40] <kaybash> ive got that
[00:40] <kaybash> but its not working
[00:40] <kaybash> someone please
[00:40] <php_penguin1> jdu: okay.. its bloody annoying having my 16x16px icons upscaled all the sodding time :(
[00:40] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: I know I read a bit but it wasn't clear to me what software needed hardware acceleration and what software didn't
[00:40] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: http://ubuntuforums.org/forumdisplay.php?f=308 well worth a look
[00:40] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: This I am not sure either :-)
[00:41] <caodagua> meglo, yes
[00:41] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: I have to go all the best with this!
[00:41] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: KVM needs hardware support so that one doesn't count for me :)
[00:41] <Nozy> hi all
[00:41] <mikevankuik> andrew_46: I'll give it a shot :) I've got nothing right now :) if it works so much the better :D
[00:41] <andrew_46> mikevankuik: cya!
[00:41] <soreau> kaybash: Have you googled that line you pasted here or relevant portion with keyword ubuntu?
[00:41] <caodagua> I think the other is in my portable disk with FAT32   :O
[00:42] <steph291> I need to debug a C program, but ddd (data display debugger) is not working correctly, please help, pm me
[00:42] <caodagua> meho_r,    I think the other is in my portable disk with FAT32   :O
[00:42] <Nozy> does some know how to stop wireless starting up on 9.04  ?
[00:42] <Nozy> think 8.10 did it too
[00:42] <sedontane> how do I updte my linux kernel? I am running 8.10 with the 2.6.27 kernel - I need 2.6.28 or higher.  have tried the standard apt methods (GUI and terminal)
[00:42] <kaybash> yes
[00:42] <fccf> steph291: that question might be better solved in #gcc
[00:42] <edbian> Nozy: You want to prevent wifi from starting??
[00:42] <kaybash> soreau: i always google before i even bothering coming here as it takes years to get any help here
[00:42] <desis> I already install Ubuntu server, but can not see my usb, how can I open my usb?
[00:42] <Nozy> yep
[00:42] <kaybash> bother to*
[00:43] <Jeruvy> !usb | desis
[00:43] <soreau> ! work | kaybash
[00:43] <Nozy> on book my wireless come on eve if I have the kill switch on
[00:43] <Nozy> ^^^^ boot
[00:43] <meho_r> caodagua I think you should go with ubuntuforums.org for the answer ;)
[00:43] <mib_b9avnd> im trying to usea audacity but nothing will make sound in audacity
[00:43] <caodagua> meho_r, tnks 4 the patience man
[00:43] <mib_b9avnd> playback is set to ALSA intel now to match the playback setting in my multimedia settings, i still get no sound
[00:44] <Jeruvy> desis: er well that was a terrible factiod..let me find something relevent :)
[00:44] <kaybash> Well I right click setup a new device, my mobile's Bluetooth is on, and it doesn't find anything.. in WinXP the Bluetooth works fine.
[00:44] <meho_r> caodagua: You may try to delete that file (I wouldn't touch .gvfs though) from single user mode
[00:44] <meho_r> caodagua but be careful
[00:44] <kaybash> And my Mobile cannot find the PC either.
[00:44] <meho_r> caodagua enter it with sudo init 1 but you'll be disconected and logged off ;-)
[00:44] <kaybash> I've installed gnome-bluetooth etc.
[00:44] <kaybash> and bluez etc.
[00:44] <caodagua> ah ok
[00:44] <jdu> php_penguin1: gconf-editor /apps/nautilus/icon_view
[00:45] <jdu> may be helpful
[00:45] <caodagua> i'll try .   wish luck
[00:45] <caodagua> :)
[00:45] <yowshi> can someone please help me get my joystick working like a mouse?
[00:45] <meho_r> caodagua: I'm sorry for not being very helpful. Good luck :-)
[00:45] <Nozy> may be udev rules.d
[00:45] <sedontane> how do I update my linux kernel? I am running 8.10 with the 2.6.27 kernel - I need 2.6.28 or higher.  have tried the standard apt methods (GUI and terminal)
[00:45] <owner_> is there an official site where i can get a driver for my accer? im running ubuuntu 9.04?
[00:45] <LinuX2half> what's a xulrunner?
[00:45] <jdu> php_penguin1: it will at least allow you to adjust the size of the thumbnails.
[00:45] <php_penguin1> jdu: only option there is to set the default thumb size to 48 (which at 33% zoom allows me to have the 16x16 displaying natively)
[00:45] <fccf> sedontane: 2.6.28 is part of jaunty .. is not part of intrepid ... you will have to upgrade to jaunty if you want 2.6.28
[00:45] <meho_r> caodagua: I'm off now. See you around. Bye
[00:45] <php_penguin1> jdu: thanks for investigating anyway :)
[00:46] <kaybash> .
[00:46] <kaybash> anyone have any ideas?
[00:46] <owner_> where ucan i get a video driver?
[00:46] <sedontane> fccf: cant do that as it kills the very thing i need the higher kernel to fix
[00:46] <jdu> php_penguin1: no problem, sorry it didn't help
[00:46] <kaybash> lol
[00:46] <kaybash> thought so
[00:46] <sedontane> have tried 9.04
[00:47] <owner_> how can i get acer drivers??????
[00:47] <sedontane> fccf: is there any way to install a newer kernel - sebsebseb told me about ppa earlier
[00:48] <sedontane> owner_: depends on the manufacturer f your hardware, who made it - and dont say acer
[00:48] <porjo> Hi, I'm running 9.04 with fglrx driver (proprietary AMD Radeon driver), but can't see how to enable compiz??
[00:49] <porjo> There doesn't appear to any compiz config installed and I can't see anything in the repo either
[00:49] <sebsebseb> sedontane: hi
[00:49] <yowshi> you have to install it
[00:50] <fccf> sedontane: this would be the ppa in question ... WARNING this could break your system...https://launchpad.net/~next-kernel/+archive/ppa
[00:50] <yowshi> a;long with the ccsm
[00:50] <yowshi> porjo: uyou have to install it and ccsm
[00:50] <sedontane> fccf: warning taken - thanks
[00:50] <porjo> yowshi: I've searched for 'compiz' in Synaptic and all the matched packages are already installed
[00:50] <nellmathew> anyone know of music player w/ shoutcast radio integrated (besides songbird)
[00:51] <yowshi> porjo: then typoe ccsm in a terminal
[00:51] <yowshi> fccf: what is PPA?
[00:52] <porjo> yowshi: ok, says it's not installed...installing now
[00:53] <sedontane> sedontane|2: https://launchpad.net/~next-kernel/+archive/ppa
[00:55] <tigerplug> hey guys... can someone help me out? trying to telnet to a vmware guest from 9.04 using named pipe... not sure how to configure
[00:55] <porjo> yowshi: OK, working!! Thanks.
[00:55] <yowshi> porjo: yw
[00:55] <porjo> yowshi: it's strange that searching in Synaptic doesn't find this package...
[00:55] <fsufitch> hey guys. i'm having trouble recording sound from line-in. the built-in mic on the computer is working fine, as are any USB microphones i plug in, but line-in is no good. can anyone help?
[00:55] <porjo> even now when I search, it's still not showing up
[00:55] <sebsebseb> yowshi: Ubuntu only does security updates from the repo,  which means you have to wait for a later version for newer versions of programs,  or  you can install them yourself, PPA is one of the ways to do it
[00:55] <porjo> but it's definitely installed
[00:56] <sebsebseb> yowshi: ,but no all programs will have a PPA, but  a lot of the major stuff will
[00:56] <sebsebseb> yowshi: ,but not all programs  above
[00:56] <sebsebseb> !ppa
[00:56] <LinuX2half> what's the current version for notification area?
[00:56] <tigerplug> hey guys... can someone help me out? trying to telnet to a vmware guest from 9.04 using named pipe... not sure how to configure
[00:57] <yowshi> sebsebseb: you wo7uldnt know how to get a joystick to work like a mouse would you?
[00:57] <sebsebseb> yowshi: no idea
[00:57] <reya276> Can anyone tell me what is the path to edit hard drive entries something like fstat or something
[00:58] <edbian> reya276: Hard drive entries???
[00:58] <hypn0> reya276, fstab?
[00:58] <edbian> reya276: Do you mean /etc/fstab?
[00:58] <reya276> edbian: yes, thank you
[00:59] <tigerplug> hey guys... can someone help me out? trying to telnet to a vmware guest from 9.04 using named pipe... not sure how to configure
[00:59] <billybigrigger> tigerplug::: ?
[00:59] <billybigrigger> tigerplug::: whats the problem? telnet HOST PORT
[00:59] <sebsebseb> tigerplug: Virtualbox is  usually better than VMware now :)  you can even use your VMDK files in it,  and you can try #vmware for your issue
[01:00] <tigerplug> billybigrigger, I need to connect to a juniper router running in vmware directly through the console port without using a physical cable. So I guess named pipe is the way
[01:00] <tigerplug> sebsebseb,
[01:00] <tigerplug> sebsebseb, yes it is but I am using a juniper vmware image that can only be used properly in vmware
[01:00] <sebsebseb> tigerplug: what's that?
[01:01] <fsufitch> hey guys. i'm having trouble recording sound from line-in. the built-in mic on the computer is working fine, as are any USB microphones i plug in, but line-in is no good. can anyone help?
[01:01] <lich0r> if I cannot find telnetd or telnetd-ssl in /etc/init.d/ that means it is not installed, right?
[01:01] <reya276> edbian: how can I apply permissions of 777 to a removeable drive such as a WD My Book?
[01:02] <jdu> lich0r: sshd
[01:02] <jdu> lich0r: generally serves instead
[01:02] <reya276> edbian: I tried doing chmod 777 /media/My Book, but that did not work
[01:02] <tigerplug> sebsebseb - its juniper singtel router
[01:03] <sebsebseb> tigerplug: ok never heard of that
[01:03] <fccf> lich0r: telnet is not a standard (or reccommended) way to connect to an ubuntu box... reccommended way is to use openssh
[01:03] <lich0r> jdu, I was told openssh instead? My biggest priority is to make sure the other two are off, because before I realized what I was doing was insecure I installed them. Though telnetd was supposedly uninstalled by telnetd-ssl
[01:04] <fccf> lich0r: portscan yourself
[01:04] <sedontane> fccf: thanks for the ppa tip - have 2.6.28 kernel now
[01:04] <jdu> lich0r: yes, so if they are not in /etc/init.d,  they should not be there.  you can always check with a portscan or ps
[01:04] <fccf> sedontane: woo hoo... I like pointing people in the right direction
[01:04]  * lich0r is installing nmap
[01:05] <sebsebseb> sedontane: well it was my tip originally :)
[01:05] <sebsebseb> sedontane: anyway can't you get 2.6.30 in 8.10 ?
[01:05] <sedontane> true and thanks to you too sebsebseb - you were quoted in my original plea to fccf for help
[01:05] <sebsebseb> sedontane: as a ppa?
[01:05] <sebsebseb> sedontane: yep I saw that
[01:05] <sedontane> not straight off - anyways if this works no need
[01:05] <fccf> sebsebseb: and credit is also given to you ..  needed 2.6.28
[01:06] <lich0r> fccf, are there any other places I should check? What if I wanted to remove another services without using the GUI? Would it always be in /etc/init.d ?
[01:06] <sebsebseb> fccf: yeah for some reason he apparantly needed that one,  or possibily later
[01:06] <sedontane> a package needed 2.6.28 to compile
[01:06] <lich0r> fccf, it says all 1000 ports scanned are closed
[01:06] <sedontane> v4l-dvb
[01:07] <sebsebseb> sedontane: what's that?
[01:07] <fccf> lich0r: thats where it would normally load from ... you can always do an apt-get remove --purge telnetd telnetd-ssh ... to remove all configs for telnet
[01:08] <lich0r> fccf, ahh 'apt-get remove --purge telnetd telnetd-ssh' I didn't know that was the proper syntax for remove.
[01:09] <fccf> lich0r: sudo of course ... but the --purge option would remove all configs as well
[01:10] <fsufitch> hey. does anyone have any idea how to get my computer to record from the external (line-in), rather than internal, microphone?
[01:11] <sedontane> sebsebseb: it is a set of drivers for tv cards
[01:12] <sebsebseb> sedontane: oh ok
[01:12] <sedontane> and it still wont compile - darn thing
[01:12] <OneirosFade> Greets all
[01:13] <sedontane> welcome
[01:13] <foonet> sorry if this was asked before, but is their an application for connecting your iPod to Ubuntu?
[01:13] <sebsebseb> !ipod | foonet
[01:14] <sebsebseb> foonet: Banshee  can sync it and I think Rythombox as well
[01:14]  * yowshi sighs* brb usb device crashed again
[01:15] <vdmpeniel> hello guys!
[01:15] <chaos2fu> hii
[01:15] <foonet> thanks sebastien_
[01:16] <foonet> *sebsebseb
[01:16] <xio3>  does anybody know how to rotate a field 180 degrees i need to flip it upside down and then mirror it-  *i'm using ubuntu 9.04 openoffice.org 3.0
[01:16] <sebsebseb> foonet: np
[01:16] <vdmpeniel> im a designer so, im not that a geek
[01:16] <sedontane> sebsebseb: Got it - required 2.6.28 source as well
[01:17] <vdmpeniel> but i luf ubuntu and opensource software
[01:17] <sebsebseb> sedontane: the source code as well?  hum
[01:17] <vdmpeniel> and i woul like to help with graphic design some open software projects
[01:17] <sedontane> sebsebseb: it is working and that is all that matters to me
[01:18] <gorgut> lo folks. I'm trying to adjust some X settings via an SSH session. can someone tell me the correct syntax to declare a display (or maybe i need a screen declaration?) in the following command line: 'xrandr --output LVDS --off"
[01:18] <gorgut> I assume it's something similar to "xrandr -d 0 --output LVDS --off" but I can't seem to get it nailed down
[01:18] <sebsebseb> sedontane: ok cool,  and  when it's time for 9.10,  I suggest you do a clean install :)
[01:18] <yowshi> i hate usb devices. thew support for them seems to utterly suck
[01:19] <ctmjr> sedontane: if you do not mind me asking what tv tuner card do you have that you had to upgrade the kernel
[01:19] <sebsebseb> sedontane: or stay with 8.10 untill  10.04 or something
[01:19] <yowshi> i cant even use na usb mouse or keyboard
[01:19] <vdmpeniel> so brothers, and sisters, would you help me please?, Iam trying to set a server up, for our home-busisness
[01:20] <sedontane> Hauppage NOVA-TD 500, it wasnt the card - its the IR reciever
[01:20] <vdmpeniel> but i realize that ubuntu server doesn't have a GUI,, and thats bad for me,
[01:20] <sebsebseb> vdmpeniel: you can install one
[01:20] <fccf> sedontane: card works? IR doesn't?   -- install lirc
[01:20] <nebulae> I totally borked my system, no sue what happened
[01:20] <yowshi> can someone explain to me why whenever a programme using a usb device crashes it never lets go of that usb device. or explain to me how to make it let go?
[01:20] <rikki_max> vdmpeniel: decide on what control panel to use and it will have a tutorial to do it
[01:21] <ctmjr> sedontane: ok thanks
[01:21] <vdmpeniel> how can i install a GUI for Ubuntu server 64 bits
[01:21] <vdmpeniel> ????????????
[01:21] <sebsebseb> nebulae: what did you do?
[01:21] <gorgut> vdmpeniel, you can use a regular install and then install just the parts you need. :)
[01:21] <cabrey> vdmpeniel, use ebox to administer the server
[01:21] <nebulae> was running 8.10, upgraded to 9.04, everything was fine until my first update
[01:21] <sedontane> fccf: it was installed (back on 9.04) wouldnt work at all
[01:21] <nebulae> then complete chaos
[01:21] <vdmpeniel> whats that?
[01:21] <sebsebseb> vdmpeniel: I haven't used the server version, but I think you can sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop for Gnome
[01:21] <OneirosFade> vdmpeniel: If you've already got the CLI, I think you just apt-get something like xubuntu-desktop/kubuntu-desktop, etc
[01:21] <sebsebseb> vdmpeniel: probably much better doing what Cabrey suggested thoug
[01:21] <sebsebseb> h
[01:21] <nebulae> low graphics mode, couldn upgrade or install or --fix-broken
[01:21] <cabrey> !ebox | vdmpeniel
[01:22] <nebulae> just bad everywhere. sad.
[01:22] <gaddzilla> vdmpeniel: you can run the command sudo apt-get install gnome-core"
[01:23] <soreau> nebukan: Have you tried installing fresh from a live Jaunty cd?
[01:23] <OneirosFade> cabrey: Now you've got me intrigued -- would eBox function well in a home-domain environment, or is it really more suited for corporate?
[01:23] <vdmpeniel> thank you guys you are amazing, thats why I do love ubuntu and opensource
[01:23] <sedontane> fccf: problem was that ubuntu didnt even see IR reciever - hopefully this will fix it
[01:23] <nebulae> Im doing that now, soreau
[01:23] <gaddzilla> vdmpeniel: as I was trying to say, run "sudo apt-get install gnome-core" and it'll install the gnome desktop without all the extras you won't need on a server, such as openoffice and evolution
[01:23] <nebulae> well, i didnt format, im hoping it installs over everything but my home foler
[01:23] <nebulae> folder^^
[01:23] <cabrey> OneirosFade, it's good for small-business/home and are you talking about a windows domain?
[01:24] <yowshi> can someone explain to me why whenever a programme using a usb device/module is crashes it never lets go of that usb device/module. or explain to me how to make it let go?
[01:24] <gaddzilla> @yowshi: sudo umount -l /path/to/usb/device
[01:24] <vdmpeniel> Actually I wanna use all my graphic stuff, and you know the cube desktop and everything
[01:24] <nebulae> so we'll see. what a pain in the ass.  If I see another segmentation fault error, I might have to rip my eyeballs out
[01:24] <OneirosFade> Well I've got one multibooter (XP/Ubuntu), a Fedora laptop, wife's XP laptop, a 486, and an XP media PC (hoping to Linuxize it this weekend) --  but I'm going to be putting in a central server for files, domain, etc
[01:25] <vdmpeniel> the server doesn't need to be super secure, all i want is to share resources, and control the flow and other machines
[01:25] <soreau> vdmpeniel: Did you need some help with it?
[01:25] <yowshi> gaddzilla: i went through the unmount and modprobe -r atempts with my webcam but because tghe now defunct process which cant be killed is still using tyhe device unmount cant unmount because the device is busy
[01:25] <canuckles> Hello all
[01:25] <OneirosFade> Hey canuckles
[01:25] <gaddzilla> @yowshi did you try the -l switch?
[01:26] <canuckles> i am a new convert to linux
[01:26] <canuckles> new to ubuntu aswell
[01:26] <soreau> canuckles: You've made a bold and wise decision. Welcome :)
[01:26] <yowshi> gaddzilla: no i dont think so
[01:26] <nebulae> 54% installing system :)
[01:26] <cabrey> OneirosFade, a universal file server is _so_ undervalued, let me tell you
[01:26] <canuckles> i have what may seem to be a minor question to some
[01:26] <aboyz> is ubuntu base on what kernel? i
[01:26] <aboyz> i mean is it like debian?
[01:26] <canuckles> i want to gert rid on my duel boot
[01:26] <gaddzilla> @yowshi: try it again with -l, like so: "sudo umount -l /mnt/usbdevicename"
[01:26] <OneirosFade> cabrey: How do you mean (universal) -- centralized for the domain, or something else?
[01:26] <nebulae> dueling boots :)  heheh
[01:26] <canuckles> no more XP
[01:27] <vdmpeniel> O yes it will be nice, to have help , in the same way if any of you need help with the design part of any project, just tell me
[01:27] <cabrey> OneirosFade, it can run samba, netatalk, NFS, ftp, etc
[01:27] <gaddzilla> @aboyz: it's built on debian and shares several similarities
[01:27] <yowshi> gaddzilla: i will try that the next time it happens
[01:27] <canuckles> I have an Itunes question
[01:27] <unko> hey guys, why isn't songbird launching? when i run it from terminal it gives me this: michael@michael-laptop:~$ songbird
[01:27] <unko> Segmentation fault
[01:27] <vdmpeniel> my email is VDMpeniel@yahoo.es
[01:27] <OneirosFade> Ah, yeah
[01:27] <soreau> canuckles: Then you can start gparted, delete the xp partition and resize the ubuntu one. Delete the entry in /boot/grub/menu.lst and be done
[01:27] <canuckles> i still need XP for syncing my ipod touch
[01:27] <knasto> Hi, i'm trying to install windows 7 in virtualbox while running jaunty
[01:28] <aboyz> ubuntu is base on debian.. nice..
[01:28] <knasto> Hi, i'm trying to install windows 7 in virtualbox while running jaunty. How do I get sound to work in Windows 7. Do I select Oss, Alsa or Pulseaudio?
[01:28] <canuckles> is there a way to sync you ipod touch with ubuntu ?
[01:28] <soreau> knasto: Maybe try the vbox website? It's quite helpful
[01:28] <cabrey> knasto, in virtualbox settings you mean?
[01:28] <lupine_85> knasto, generally, pulse is your friend
[01:28] <cabrey> knasto, if you're running ubuntu, use pulseaudio
[01:28] <knasto> yes cabrey
[01:28] <OneirosFade> canuckles: Pretty sure there is -- I use Rhythmbox for my Nano 2ndGen
[01:28] <soreau> canuckles: Yes, with songbird
[01:28] <knasto> ok
[01:29] <canuckles> oh
[01:29] <knasto> let me try that cabrey
[01:29] <vdmpeniel> Iam christian and any christ-centred project would be a pleasure, as well as just help you make linux world look nicer!
[01:29] <canuckles> songbird works to sync ipod touch?
[01:29] <aboyz> on the ubuntu server edition.. no GUI right?
[01:29] <vdmpeniel> thank you guys, and
[01:29] <aboyz> i want my server to be clean as possible..
[01:29] <sedontane> aboyz: no but you can install it post-install
[01:29] <aboyz> sweet..
[01:30] <aboyz> so what is the differnet between ubuntu and debian?
[01:30] <aboyz> i mean what is the major differnet between them?
[01:30] <krammer> evening all, since there is a bug in openoffice is it best to unistall and download it from the webste
[01:30] <canuckles> :-Dthanks Soreai
[01:30] <canuckles> Soreau
[01:30] <sedontane> aboyz: semantics and a whole load of arguing
[01:30] <aboyz> or what make ubuntu better then debian?
[01:30] <aboyz> is it just the Kunubutu desktop
[01:31] <sedontane> aboyz: depends on everything - hardware, purpose, etc
[01:31] <canuckles> where do i get songbird?
[01:31] <aboyz> i install unbuntu
[01:31] <canuckles> will it download podcasts?
[01:31] <aboyz> see how smooth it runs
[01:31] <soreau> canuckles: I don't see why not http://www.ipodtouchfans.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33754 hehe ;)
[01:31] <sedontane> aboyz: try the live CD
[01:32] <vdmpeniel> may the Lord bless you!!!!
[01:32] <soreau> canuckles: Sorry, I think the touch is actually encrypted by apple to use only iTunes
[01:32] <canuckles> ohh man you got me all excited!
[01:32] <soreau> But you can hack it if you want
[01:32] <sedontane> vdmpeniel: may he bless you too
[01:32] <nebulae> they tried to make me go with redhat... I say no no no
[01:32] <OneirosFade> soreau: Say what?
[01:32] <canuckles> so i am stuck using XP?
[01:33] <soreau> OneirosFade: what?
[01:33] <OneirosFade> I'd not heard that before
[01:33] <nebulae> canuckles, what I did is install windows 7 in virtualbox for itunes to run,
[01:33] <krammer> evening all, since there is a bug in openoffice is it best to unistall and download it from the webste
[01:33] <canuckles> but does it run properly?
[01:33] <nebulae> so i run windows 7 in ubuntu for 2 reasons - netflix & itunes
[01:33] <canuckles> i tried that with wine
[01:33] <nebulae> runs like a dream :)
[01:33] <nebulae> way better then wine
[01:34] <nebulae> plus, it runs seamless, so its like having a second start menu
[01:34] <canuckles> sorry i am a newbie at ubuntu
[01:34] <nebulae> check it out - VirtualBox OSE
[01:34] <canuckles> how do i get/run virtualbox?
[01:34] <nebulae> google it
[01:34] <SchmittyDoesIt> sun.com
[01:34] <nebulae> its by sun
[01:34] <canuckles> does virtual box come with windos 7?
[01:34] <nebulae> windows 7 has a 1 year triel too
[01:34] <SchmittyDoesIt> no
[01:34] <joe38> whats better than wine?
[01:34] <krammer> lol
[01:35] <nebulae> no, you have to download it seperate
[01:35] <krammer> beer
[01:35] <joe38> lol
[01:35] <nebulae> but it has a 1 year trial
[01:35] <knasto> cabrey and lupine_85 thanx, i used pulseaudio and ran a windows update and now sound works
[01:35] <canuckles> then what after one year??
[01:35] <canuckles> lol
[01:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> you buy
[01:35] <nebulae> then you find a crack :)
[01:35] <sedontane> i knew beer was coming
[01:35] <cratel> how do I install header source files in jaunty? I'm not finding the -dev extensions I'm used to finding in earlier versions.
[01:35] <cabrey> canuckles, get songbird from here: http://www.getdeb.net/app/Songbird
[01:35] <chaos2fu> is there anyone here that are really good at grub? I have lost my boot device...:-(
[01:35] <SchmittyDoesIt> crack open your walet
[01:35] <cabrey> knasto, yay! :)
[01:36] <nebulae> touche.
[01:36] <canuckles> but does songbird sync with ipod touch cabrey ?
[01:36] <nebulae> ok, just finished reinstalling 9.04, rebooting,
[01:36] <cabrey> canuckles, ahhh if you hack it, i think there is an addon for songbird
[01:36] <nebulae> everyone cross your fingers for me
[01:36] <krammer> choas2fu did you lose the menu?
[01:36] <knasto> cabrey, you said that pulseaudio is your friend, but ive heard that its bad compared to alsa and oss. What exactly is the diffrence?
[01:36] <OneirosFade> I'm not seeing anything on the interwebs about the iP-T being setup for iTunes only, or specially encrypted, or anything...  may be missing something, though
[01:36] <canuckles> my ipod touch is already jailbroken
[01:37] <nebulae> canuckles, i have an iphone and nothing works for it except itunes, but its not jailbroke so... I dunno
[01:37] <cxo> Just made the switch!
[01:37] <cabrey> knasto, i didn't say it was your friend haha but it acts as a proxy for most/all apps so that you can control volume, etc with advanced features
[01:37] <canuckles> can i run XP in virtual box?
[01:38] <canuckles> hey cxo
[01:38] <canuckles> mee tooo
[01:38] <Jeruvy> !grub | chaos2fu
[01:38] <luis__> hello
[01:38] <nebulae> everything looks good so far...
[01:38] <cxo> having some teething issues 1) How do you sudo without a password? i uncommented the line for NOPASSWD and %sudo, but still no go
[01:38] <joe38> you can run xp yes
[01:38] <nebulae> canuckles, you can run any os in virtualbox
[01:38] <canuckles> you said it was sun.com ?
[01:38] <knasto> cabrey, ok i see
[01:38] <sedontane> fccf: I saw somewhere a command line way to test my remote but i cant frind the reference anywhere - any more finger waggling you can do for me?
[01:38] <puff> I have an ipod nano that seems to be lame;  it appears to look and work normally when in stand-alone mode or managing it with amarok, but no music and putting music on appears to work but it doesn't show up when undocked.
[01:39] <puff> How do I reinstall the sucker from scratch with just an ubuntu box?
[01:39] <cxo> 2) I tried to delete most of my gnome config stuff from ~/ but i think a few things are still lingering from my fc11 install, for example, i have no window manager when i login, i have to start metacity manually
[01:39] <puff> How do I reinstall an ipod nano from scratch with just an ubuntu box?
[01:39] <joe38> my ipod shuffle works fine with banshee or rythym box
[01:40] <luis__> what's about the gnome3.0 and gnome shell? is there any development?
[01:40] <dragoon> so passwords are stored in /etc/shadow in encrypted form + salt. I thought sha512 needs 16bits, why is the salt 15 or 14 characters?
[01:40] <cabrey> luis__, use !ot for that
[01:40] <nebulae> hahah!  all looks good!  yay!
[01:40] <joe38> gz
[01:40] <sedontane> I saw somewhere a command line way to test my remote but i cant frind the reference anywhere - anyone have it?
[01:40] <chaos2fu> ok thanks luis_ im looking into it now...:-) reporting back within five
[01:40] <tannerS> guys, how big should the ubuntu swap partition be?
[01:41] <cabrey> tannerS, how much ram do you have?
[01:41] <tannerS> 4hb
[01:41] <tannerS> *gb
[01:41] <cabrey> tannerS, do you plan on using hibernation?
[01:41] <wers> i'm not the only one having a problem signing in to Y!M on pidgin, right? what seems to be the problem?
[01:41] <cabrey> !ot | luis__
[01:41] <puff> tannerS: There are vrious theories on that, but the generally accepted rule of thumb appears to be "as much as your ram" or sometimes "twice as much as your ram".
[01:41] <RORgasm> hey guys i dunno if anyone else has noticed this but flash videos seem choppy on jaunty in fullscreen for me
[01:41] <RORgasm> was wondering if anyone else is having those problems
[01:41] <tannerS> cabrey dont know what that is so no
[01:42] <cabrey> tannerS, where the machine turns off, but saves the staete
[01:42] <cabrey> state*
[01:42] <cabrey> tannerS, 2GB should be fine, but you could settle for 4GB if you want
[01:42] <puff> tannerS: I lean towards the latter, since I only have 2GB of RAM and 4GB of disk is not a hardshipo to give up. Also, I have a laptop and I have this feeling (uconfirmed) that swap is used for hibernation.
[01:43] <cabrey> puff, he would have to give up 8gb of space for something he will probably never use
[01:43] <tannerS> cabrey/puff so if i have 4gb its ok and maybe even better if i have 8 gb?
[01:43] <joe38> RoR what codec r u using?
[01:43] <cabrey> tannerS, stick with 4gb, 8gb is overkill (major)
[01:43] <gartral> there seems too be alot of people who cant sign into yahoo today.... me included
[01:43] <sedontane> I saw somewhere a command line way to test my remote control but i cant frind the reference anywhere - anyone have it?
[01:44] <tannerS> cabrey but even if i out 8 gb which i dont care much about ti cant hurt anythign can it?
[01:44] <glitsj16> RORgasm: if you are running compiz, you might get better results if you uncheck the option "Unredirect fullscreen windows" in ccsm (under "general options")
[01:44] <canuckles> how do i knwo if i should download i386 or amd64?
[01:44] <canuckles> intel or AMD?
[01:44] <sedontane> canuckles: what processor do you have?
[01:44] <puff> cabrey:   If you havef a terabyte disk, 4 etra ig is nothinhg, but yeah, like I said,.
[01:44] <puff> Dang, my network is all laggy.  Wireless is bringing back the feel of the early days of the net.
[01:44] <canuckles> intel duel core
[01:44] <cabrey> tannerS, no you can't lose anything but think about this: 8gb is the size of my ubuntu install right now :P
[01:45] <cabrey> canuckles, amd64 is 64 bit
[01:45] <OneirosFade> Ooh, gotta go dine.  Ciao all
[01:45] <tannerS> lol mys 40 gb :P
[01:45] <sedontane> canuckles: then you can run either, amd64 may provide some benefit even in certain situations
[01:45] <cabrey> tannerS, yea stick with 4gb
[01:45] <RORgasm> glitsj16, i actually thought compiz might be causing the porblems so i've turned it off lately....ok so where is this Unredirect fullscreen windows?
[01:45] <canuckles> ok
[01:45] <cabrey> tannerS, that would be almost 25% of your hdd unusable :/
[01:45] <puff> Dangit, googling on linux and ipod gets me lots of "how to install linux on your ipod", which I don't want.
[01:45] <canuckles> i tried other dow=nloads with i386 and got install errors
[01:46] <tannerS> cabrey 8gb? :S
[01:46] <cabrey> canuckles, do you have 32 bit or 64 bit?
[01:46] <canuckles> i dunno
[01:46] <canuckles> lol
[01:46] <cabrey> canuckles, which image did you download to install ubuntu?
[01:46] <canuckles> lol
[01:46] <canuckles> sorry not sure
[01:47] <glitsj16> RORgasm: use compizconfig-settings-manager (install that if you haven't got it already) and run ccsm to get to the settings window ... the "Unredirect fullscreen windows" is under the "General Options" ...
[01:47] <sedontane> I saw somewhere a command line way to test my remote control but i cant frind the reference anywhere - anyone have it?
[01:47] <cabrey> canuckles, paste the output of uname -a in a terminal
[01:48] <canuckles> Linux ubuntu 2.6.28-11-generic #42-Ubuntu SMP Fri Apr 17 01:58:03 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[01:48] <ix_> does skype freeze like mad on anyone else's 9.04?
[01:48] <cabrey> canuckles, download the amd64 package
[01:48] <glitsj16> RORgasm: but if you still got the issue when compiz isn't running chances are slim that will make a difference :)
[01:48] <canuckles> thx Cab
[01:48] <funkycat90210> is there a neat gui that does the same thing as psnup?
[01:49] <cabrey> funkycat90210, enlighten us what 'psnup' is
[01:49] <RORgasm> glitsj16, huh i have that checked already
[01:49] <funkycat90210> cabrey: psnup allows you to format code for printing, you can put mult pages on one page, bold syntax, etc.
[01:50] <funkycat90210> basically takes a text file and spits out a .ps file
[01:50] <ix_> having lots of trouble getting on yahoo via pidgin too
[01:50] <unko> why does it say segmentation fault when i try to launch songbird?
[01:50] <canuckles> where do i find virtual box exe to launch ?
[01:50] <glitsj16> RORgasm: you need to uncheck it
[01:50] <RORgasm> glitsj16, oh
[01:50] <ctmjr> sedontane: you using lirc?
[01:51] <chaos2fu> luis__ thanks man, it worked! have a good night
[01:51] <nebulae> canuckles, I think under apps - system tools - Sun VirtualBox
[01:51] <nebulae> Im just reinstalling it myself
[01:51] <cabrey> funkycat90210, hmm maybe if you used a synax highlighting text editor?
[01:51] <Tophu> what is the path to the sources and headers folders?
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> canuckles:   which VirtualBox
[01:52] <Dr_Willis> /usr/bin/VirtualBox
[01:52] <Tophu> for ubuntu
[01:52] <canuckles> DR.Willis
[01:53] <cratel> how do I add /usr/local/lib to my path for libraries
[01:53] <canuckles> how do i navigate there from desktop?
[01:53] <Dr_Willis> canuckles:  bash basics?  the 'cd' command.. why do you need to? You may want to read a few shell tutorial guides...
[01:53] <RORgasm> glitsj16, no that didn't help
[01:54] <RORgasm> glicks, what i don't understand is it was working fine on 8.10
[01:54] <dsdeiz> hi! a process is connection my yahoo messenger although i'm not quite sure what
[01:54] <cabrey> !tab | canuckles
[01:54] <RORgasm> glicks, are other people having this problem with the upgrad?
[01:54] <dsdeiz> is there a way to like find out what?
[01:54] <glitsj16> RORgasm: could be a regression, i'd check bugs.launchpad.net for any reports on that issue
[01:54] <sedontane> whats the default root password for ubuntu?
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !root |  sedontane
[01:55] <sebsebseb> !sudo | sedontane
[01:55] <sedontane> i have been usin g sudo
[01:55] <glitsj16> RORgasm: i've seen people report similar issues yes, but not a clue yet to an easy quick fix alas
[01:55] <sedontane> however irw wont work and i cant restart the lircd process
[01:56] <dsdeiz> anyone?
[01:56] <sebsebseb> sedontane: sudo -i  if you want a shell as root for a while, but  be careful with that
[01:56] <RORgasm> glitsj16, i'm using firefox...maybe its a firefox bug with jaunty
[01:56] <dsdeiz> anyone? :(
[01:57]  * Dr_Willis jams to Spamalot.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> anyone what?
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !patience |  dsdeiz
[01:57] <sedontane> sebsebseb: thanks
[01:57] <sebsebseb> sedontane: np
[01:57] <dsdeiz> ok got it.. i'll just repeat it
[01:57] <craigbass1976> Is there something yahoo did recently to cause pidgin to go wonky?  My wife can't log on to her yahoo chat
[01:57] <hoax_coder> hiya guys i want to install windows 7 on a partition on a laptop alongside vista and im wondering if i install ubuntu first (for GRUB) and then install windows 7 on top of the ubuntu partition wud it delete the GRUB???
[01:57] <dsdeiz> hmm, it says that i'm currently connected to yahoo messenger although i'm not quite sure what
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> it pays to make the question very clear and concise also.
[01:57] <Dr_Willis> hoax_coder:  you will have to reinsall grub.
[01:57] <sebsebseb> hoax_coder: yes Windows always goes over Grub
[01:57] <funkycat90210> err psnup takes a .ps file and outputs another .ps file
[01:57] <craigbass1976> dsabecky, windows used to, I haven't dual boted for a while though
[01:57] <sebsebseb> !grub |  hoax_coder
[01:57] <hoax_coder> blast
[01:58] <TBOMB> I have a quick question I thinking of buying a no OS computer from Tigerdirect it has 2 PCI slots P4 3.0 GHZ onboard video Ubuntu should work right?
[01:58] <hoax_coder> ty
[01:58] <sebsebseb> np
[01:58] <craigbass1976> dsdeiz, , windows used to, I haven't dual boted for a while though
[01:58] <glitsj16> RORgasm: could be yes, i found this https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+bug/347065 on the choppyness issue
[01:58] <Dr_Willis> TBOMB:  depends on what teh video chipset is.  You mean it has 2 PCI Express slots?
[01:59] <TBOMB> Dr_Willis yeah 2 PCI Express slots
[01:59] <TBOMB> I don't want to buy it if it won't work
[02:00] <TBOMB> I have a old dino box right now and some of the PCI slots are shot
[02:00] <trend> hey, I have added my public key to my server.. but I still cannot login via ssh w/ no password.. I do ssh -v mindstorm and I get: http://pastebin.com/m19561244 ideas?
[02:01] <S0LIDUS> trend: Did you say no password!
[02:01] <TBOMB> I would hate to replace the dino box I just bought some ram not too long ago
[02:01] <trend> when doing: ssh-keygen I pressed enter 2x when it asked me for a pw
[02:02] <jrib> trend: have you done this before?
[02:02] <trend> yes.. however, it has been a wile
[02:02] <jaunty_guy> Hi guys I have question about lm_sensors
[02:02] <nellmathew> hey guys, anyone know if banshee handles large libraries well?
[02:02] <jrib> trend: how did you add your key on the server?
[02:02] <S0LIDUS> trend: What ssh client are you using?
[02:02] <jaunty_guy> what does V5stby value correspond to?
[02:02] <trend> I copied the key to my samba share, then via ssh moved it to /root/.ssh/auth....
[02:02] <sebsebseb> nellmathew: should do, as long as you never run out of space  in home, where it will store the  program user data files
[02:03] <TBOMB> Dr_Willis should research the PC manufacture?
[02:03] <sebsebseb> nellmathew: if that happens the  sqllite database can go all bad
[02:03] <trend> OpenSSH_5.1p1, OpenSSL 0.9.7l 28 Sep 2006 << client ssh
[02:03] <jrib> trend: ok... Why are you root at all?  And why are you sshing as root?
[02:03] <S0LIDUS> trend: And the Server OS?
[02:03] <nellmathew> thanks sebsebseb
[02:03] <sebsebseb> nellmathew: np
[02:04] <trend> ubuntu
[02:04] <S0LIDUS> trend: try terminal into it!
 I tried mprime and nothing happened except it freezes too many times ??????
[02:06] <rosenblot> hi,@everyone
[02:06] <TBOMB> Dr_Willis: Should I research the manufacture of the PC to check?
[02:07] <Heebie> Hi. I'm getting this error:create_connection_server_info failed: NT_STATUS_ACCESS_DENIED, when I try & mount a directory shared on my ubuntu server from my Mac.  The only fix I've seen for it says to add your user with smbpasswd... but the system won't let me add a guest user for samba.  Has anyone dealt with this before? (Google has been useless.)
[02:08] <jaunty_guy>  V5stby value corresponds to what?
[02:09] <TBOMB> I am buying a no OS computer with a P4 3.0Ghz to verify if this system will work with Ubuntu what do I need to research before I buy?
[02:09] <thiebaude> TBOMB: a Dell?
[02:09] <chaos2fu> TBOMB; Search in forum, for the hardware
[02:10] <bsl> TBOMB: Ubuntu will work
[02:10] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: For what! Ubuntu will work on that.
[02:10] <elad`> Is there a synaptic package for Wikimedia's Wiki, or some other wiki?
[02:10] <jrib> elad`: mediawiki and moinmoin are two
[02:10] <TBOMB> IBM ThinkCentre desktop
[02:10] <chaos2fu> but most hardware will work one way or another
[02:10] <elad`> moinmoin?
[02:10] <bsl> TBOMB: I can run ubuntu on my 5 year old thinkpad laptop
[02:10] <jrib> elad`: it's the wiki help.ubuntu.com and wiki.ubuntu.com use.  It's written in python
[02:11] <jrib> trend: did you see my question?
[02:11] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: Linux is better supported on old hardware but the modern distros have more modern hardware support!
[02:11] <canuckles> what the?
[02:11] <elad`> Thanks.
[02:12] <canuckles> i hate these ubuntu growing pains
[02:12] <TBOMB> I am trying to replace an old compaq presario I have. 2 of my PCI slots are shot
[02:12] <canuckles> can't get virtual box to work, look on youtube for help , now i have no video
[02:12] <elad`> Which would you recommend to a beginner who just wants a password-protected notebook he can access from anywhere to record information and todos?
[02:12] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: So long as your not planning to play modern PC games on it Ubuntu will work!
[02:13] <chaos2fu> hii guys, i really need someones help..I did some mixing with my partions and now the system is starting in "recvery mode". How do i reapir the, with fsck
[02:13] <jrib> elad`: either will probably do.  moinmoin has some nice access controls
[02:13] <spx2> anyone know any notes program on Windows like knotes is on linux ?
[02:13] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS yeah the modern PCs are the best bet
[02:13] <elad`> (Also, if it can run from Windows, and if it's possible to copy the contents so far from one place to another easily, that's a big plus.)
[02:13] <bsl> elad`: I think you need macbook
[02:13] <kain> hi all, wondering if anyone knows why my logitech quickcam fusion doesn't show an image nor sound on my virtualbox windows virtual machine, all the drivers installed correctly but no image nor sound
[02:13] <elad`> macbook?
[02:13] <canuckles> hey kain
[02:14] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS nope no games I'll build a game system for that purpose if I have to
[02:14] <jrib> elad`: wait, maybe you are looking for something like tiddlywiki.com ?
[02:14] <canuckles> i just got virtual box
[02:14] <canuckles> tried using my xp cd
[02:14] <canuckles> do i need image file or can i load from cd?
[02:14] <kain> u can use image file also
[02:14] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: Cool then Ubuntu is the choice OS for your other PC
[02:14] <trend> yeah.. my problem was , I was using a .ssh/config file, and it was looking for ida_dsa instaed of ida_rsa :/
[02:14] <trend> whooops
[02:14] <jrib> canuckles: #vbox but you can use the cd or image file
[02:14] <trend> thanks for helping me not flip out guys :)
[02:14] <TBOMB> Just multimedia stuff if any and web browsing and paying bills online
[02:14] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  you can load from the cd, but i prefer using the iso image.. it's also a good backup in case the cd craps out
[02:15] <kain> canuckles: its in the settings Cd/dvd rom
[02:15] <canuckles> so ubuntu is not good for games?
[02:15] <bcurtiswx-mini> hi all, how can i get gnome to show a login message for anyone physically logging into my computer?
[02:15] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS have you ever installed a Ubuntu on a no OS PC
[02:15] <cabrey> !wine | canuckles
[02:15] <canuckles> like battlefield 2 , or call of duty?
[02:15] <pngll> I want to upgrade nginx from 0.6.35 to 0.8.2, but the folders selected by aptitude and the default ones selected by nginx at compilation do not match. How can I make sure I won't screw up and end up with two versions of the same program?
[02:15] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  not really... not too many game developers release games for linux
[02:15] <kain> wondering if anyone knows why my logitech quickcam fusion doesn't show an image nor sound on my virtualbox windows virtual machine, all the drivers installed correctly but no image nor sound
[02:15] <elad`> If there's a site where I can have my personal, password-protected wiki, that would satisfy me.
[02:15] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: If you are watching video's then go for a nvidia as ati have been known for having issues
[02:15] <canuckles> so firestart
[02:16] <canuckles> i shoudl sitck to duel boot
[02:16] <canuckles> i guess huh?
[02:16] <dbm> canuckles, learn to read up.
[02:16] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: Yep I have done a fresh install on Blank PC
[02:16] <jrib> elad`: did you visit tiddlywiki.com?
[02:16] <canuckles> sorry dbm
[02:16] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  if you're into gaming.. definitely.. the only game i play is flight gear, but i prefer to waste my time on 2 wheels irl :P
[02:16] <canuckles> is there a problem asking for help ?
[02:16] <cabrey> canuckles, also see !cedega
[02:16] <kain> canuckles: personnaly i prefer windows for playing games since the compatability is better, but i'm new to linux so its my personal opinion
[02:17] <elad`> jrib, it requires a download, doesn't it?
[02:17] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  as long as dalton and julian don't screw us over with MORE unnecessary additions to the ontario highway traffic act
[02:17] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS I plan to do that but heres a problem though I have dial up won't my dial up modem interfere with the video card?
[02:17] <elad`> jrib, I was hoping to get hosting on the way as well.
[02:17] <sedontane> umm my tv tuner isnt being picked up by my ubuntu system
[02:17] <jrib> elad`: you said you wanted to transfer the wiki back and forth
[02:17] <bcurtiswx-mini> hi all, how can i get gnome to show a login message for anyone physically logging into my computer?
[02:17] <kain> wondering if anyone knows why my logitech quickcam fusion doesn't show an image nor sound on my virtualbox windows virtual machine, all the drivers installed correctly but no image nor sound
[02:17] <cabrey> bcurtiswx-mini, you mean a welcome message?
[02:17] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  the problem with wine is that it can't run EVERYTHING and most games are too demanding for virtualisation
[02:17] <jrib> !repeat | kain
[02:17] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: what socket are your modem and GPU?
[02:17] <bcurtiswx-mini> cabrey: yup :)
[02:18] <cabrey> FiReSTaRT, WINE is Not an Emulator
[02:18] <canuckles> so i will keep duel boot
[02:18] <kain> ubottu: ok thanks, i'm new to this chat, never used it before
[02:18] <canuckles> use XP for itunes and gaming
[02:18] <elad`> jrib, that's because I wanted to be able to host it on both my machines interchangeably. But if I can get something that's hosted by a dedicated server, that's even better.
[02:18] <canuckles> and linux for everything else
[02:18] <FiReSTaRT> cabrey:  i was talking about virtualisation as another option :)
[02:18] <cabrey> bcurtiswx-mini, System > Administration > Login Window > Local tab
[02:18] <usser> FiReSTaRT, check out virtualbox 3 for gaming
[02:18] <cabrey> FiReSTaRT, in that case, carry on ;)
[02:18] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS ummm HSP 56 Micromodem PCtel pct789
[02:18] <jrib> elad`: that's what tiddlywiki will do.  It's a single html file that you can move all over the place
[02:19] <elad`> But where is it hosted?
[02:19] <FiReSTaRT> usser:  i didn't know they came out with it... beta release? so far the 2-series has been good for my work :)
[02:19] <jrib> elad`: no where.  You can use it locally
[02:19] <Animagladius> Heyas.
[02:19] <canuckles> do alot of users use duel boot?
[02:19] <usser> FiReSTaRT, yea its still in beta, they claim opengl 2.0 and directx 9
[02:19] <elad`> But I want to be able to access it from work.
[02:19] <S0LIDUS> If they are in seperate sockets then they shouldn't conflict.
[02:19] <elad`> brb
[02:19] <cabrey> FiReSTaRT, yea it is optimized for gaming, I saw an article on lifehacker
[02:19] <Animagladius> Anybody know a good screen capture tool to make videos of your desktop?
[02:19] <canuckles> to get the best of both worlds?
[02:19] <jrib> ugh that's annoying
[02:19] <cabrey> Animagladius, gtk-recordmydesktop
[02:19] <Dr_Willis> !info recordmydesktop
[02:19] <kain> canuckles: i use dual boot
[02:19] <Animagladius> Thanks, cabrey, I'll try it out
[02:20] <ben> whoa
[02:20] <ben> where am I
[02:20] <cabrey> in heaven
[02:20] <FiReSTaRT> canuckles:  depends.. in my house, there are 2 exclusive linux boxes, 1 dual boot linux/xp and one exclusive xp box only used for the lexmark color printer lol
[02:20] <canuckles> duel boot seems to be a good way to go
[02:20] <ben> what is going on
[02:20] <solomon> any help available for getting 'GRUB Read Error' on boot after installing jaunty from alt cd?
[02:20] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: And if your a dial up person check out http://free-dialup.net
[02:20] <canuckles> linux runs faster righ t?
[02:20] <FiReSTaRT> cabrey/usser: that's good to know in case i ever get back into gaming :P
[02:20] <kain> canuckles: but i'm trying to use linux as much as possible cause i support open source
[02:20] <canuckles> and no vorus?
[02:20] <Animagladius> This is the Ubuntu support channel, I guess, ben
[02:21] <arthur_> which version release is jaunty 8.10?
[02:21] <canuckles> virus
[02:21] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  would your machine be dell by any chance?
[02:21] <cabrey> !faq | canuckles
[02:21] <thiebaude> arthur_: 9.04
[02:21] <arthur_> k
[02:21] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS whats the website for free internet
[02:21] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: nah, it's a mishmash
[02:21] <kain> cabrey: what does !faq | canuckles mean?
[02:21] <canuckles> thx cabrey
[02:21] <cabrey> kain, it triggers the bot
[02:21] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  ok so there's some hope for you yet :)
[02:21] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: hehe
[02:21] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: http://www.free-dialup.net
[02:21] <sedontane> how do i install my tv tuner?
[02:22] <elad`> jrib, I'm back. Where were we?
[02:22] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS the video card card won't conflict with the modem right?
[02:22] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  now have you tried making another cd and reinstalling?
[02:22] <kain> cabrey: damn i'm lost, what would that bot do?
[02:22] <jrib> elad`: you can host the html file of course if you want
[02:22] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: yeah, i went through the install process a second time and watched it quite closely, everything went off pretty well
[02:22] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  dual boot or single boot?
[02:22] <jrib> elad`: but if you are going to host and you don't care about offline access then just use moinmoin or mediawiki
[02:22] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: grub scrolled by a bit quickly but it looked ok too
[02:22] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: single
[02:22] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: NOT if they use seperate sockets! Its not an issue I have ever heard of!
[02:23] <kain> cabrey: oh i get it, automated messages right?
[02:23] <cabrey> !ubottu | kain
[02:23] <elad`> jrib, isn't there anything like GMail, only for wikis?
[02:23] <kain> cabrey: cool :)
[02:23] <jrib> elad`: so this isn't an ubuntu question?
[02:23] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: note i've got three drives, one sata and two pata, doing / on raid0 and /boot on one of the pata drives
[02:23] <pngll> When manually installing software, is it possible to check that the configure options are right before compiling?
[02:23] <bsl> which file should I put use to auto mount my RAID
[02:23] <elad`> Meanwhile, I've installed moinmoin. How do I use it?
[02:23] <elad`> jrib, :(
[02:23] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS are you on here a lot or just occassionally
[02:24] <inx-live> elad`: whats moinmoin?
[02:24] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  now that could have something to do with it.. when you start mishmashing the controllers, you never know what you're gonna get
[02:24] <elad`> The wiki.
[02:24] <sedontane> how do i install my tv tuner?
[02:24] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: I'm always on here ! Time permiting = )
[02:24] <kain> i have a partition on my HD that i mount everytime i log on, is there a way for it to mount by itself when i log on?
[02:24] <jrib> elad`: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/serverguide/C/moinmoin.html There is wikidot.com that I know of, but not sure if you can do private wikis
[02:24] <S0LIDUS> kain: fstab
[02:25] <solomon> FiReSTaRT: well, i could try and switch which drive grub is installed on... i've done it before long ago although i've forgotten all the commands :)
[02:26] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS you are a great help sometimes I'll come here and no one and I mean no one wants to help or has no solution to my problem but you are very knowledgeable
[02:26] <littlebayer> I just installed Ubuntu 9.04 on a parallels VM and when I try to log in, it's starts playing music and looks like the desktop is loading but before it finishes it goes back to the login page
[02:26] <FiReSTaRT> solomon:  yeah that would probably be your best bet but i couldn't help you with it.. so far i've had relatively simple configurations (either a single sata or dual ide's), obviously no raid :P
[02:26] <littlebayer> Anyone have any ideas?
[02:26] <jrib> elad`: wetpaint.com too
[02:26] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: Thank You!
[02:26] <elad`> Thanks.
[02:27] <GuySoft> hey all, is there a way to stop xubuntu from locking the laptop, when closing its lid?
[02:27] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS just you taking the time means a lot so I THANK YOU!
[02:27] <mathew> I have been trying to upgrade to ubuntu 9.04 Jaunty from Hardy for a while now, but I haven't been able to get audio to work. Interestingly, I can't get sound when I am logged in, yet the system sound plays on the gnome login splash screen. I am using an integrated MCP61 (realtek ALC883) sound device. I never had a problem with sound on Hardy and Google has been rather unhelpful
[02:28] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: Its nice to honour the true spirit of Ubuntu!
[02:28] <chaos2fu> how do u run fsck?
[02:28] <mib_5a4f2mjv> I have the error 21 on my acer netbook can anyone help me
[02:28] <nsahoo> ulimit -m 6000000
[02:28] <nsahoo> should impose a limit of 6GB on any process .. right?\
[02:29] <nsahoo> started in the same shell that is
[02:29] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS well deserved my friend. Question for you where did you find that website?
[02:29] <arthur_> for sound put this in /etc in the modprobe.conf file       options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout
[02:29] <damisa81> Can someone help me, I think I messed up my linux installation such that my windows installation no longer boots
[02:29] <mib_5a4f2mjv> same problem with me
[02:29] <mib_5a4f2mjv> error 21 grub can you help me please
[02:30] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: I have been using them for a while, I have alot of friends who cant afford broadband who use it.
[02:30] <arthur_> for sound put this in /etc in the modprobe.conf file       options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout   then reboot
[02:30] <damisa81> i tried adding windows to the menu.lst, but it's not working
[02:30] <mathew> arthur_> Ill give that a shot now
[02:31] <mib_5a4f2mjv> can anyone help me with error 21
[02:31] <yowshi> gaddzilla: what happens if what you need to umount is in /dev?
[02:31] <thiebaude> !grub
[02:31] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS can I have your email address in case I have more questions?
[02:31] <yowshi> gaddzilla: because umount -l doesnt seem to work for joystick which is /dev/input/js0 and not mounted in media
[02:32] <arthur_> mathew, did u look in alsamixer there are sound controls there to
[02:32] <jordo2323> Anyone around here have a PS3?
[02:32] <arthur_> from terminal type alsamixer
[02:32] <jrib> !ot | jordo2323
[02:32] <solomon> hrm, this is very odd.  when i boot into the alt cd with 'rescue a broken system' and it mounts my boot partition on /boot, it has /boot/grub but no kernel in /boot
[02:32] <kain> SOLIDUS: i looked up fstab but i can't figure out how to mount my partition
[02:32] <yowshi> anyone know how to unmount something in the /dev folder? stupid dosbox wont let go of the stupid usb joystick
[02:33] <chaos2fu> unmount?
[02:33] <kain> SOLIDUS: i typed sudo fdisk -l   to see which partition it was and i want to automount  /dev/sda3
[02:33] <arthur_> try kill?
[02:34] <mathew> arthur_> yes there are controls in alsamixer, everything is unmuted, what is the path for modprobe.conf ?
[02:34] <arthur_> use ps aux and kill the app u want by pid
[02:34] <S0LIDUS> TBOMB: I also have a chan @ starchat.net #1001
[02:34] <yowshi> anyone know how to unmount something in the /dev folder? stupid dosbox wont let go of the stupid usb joystick. i need a way to get the device/module freed up without rebooting
[02:35] <TBOMB> SOLIDUS didn't see the pm I have your email thanks for the help gotta go get me some grub talk to you later
[02:35] <tuxGentoo> hola alguno sabe c# necesito una ayuda
[02:35] <cabrey> !es
[02:35] <S0LIDUS> kain: pysdm
[02:36] <kain> SOLIDUS: thanks :)
[02:36] <cxo> If i know the name of a file that comes with a package, how do i find the name of that package and install it?
[02:36] <fccf> cxo: what file?
[02:36] <cxo> eg, on fedora you would do, yum provides blah.h
[02:36] <S0LIDUS> kain: Your Welcome!
[02:36] <Kingsy101> can someone tell me the mv command that I would use to mv the contents of the current directory to its parent directory?
[02:36] <kapil> cxo: apt-file
[02:37] <solomon> Kingsy101: mv * ../
[02:37] <Kingsy101> thanks
[02:37] <jtaji> cxo: dpkg -S file
[02:37] <fccf> I'm Out... G'Nite
[02:37] <cxo> the file isnt installed on the system
[02:38] <Zencyde2> Hey, is there a way to set the background of each individual workspace?
[02:38] <jtaji> cxo: ah, apt-file then
[02:38] <elad`> No-IP.com has a dynamic-dns service (I think that's what it's called) that lets Windows users install an applet that, whenever their IP changes, informs their site, and makes it redirect people that visit myname.no-ip.com to the new IP. Is there something similar for Ubuntu?
[02:38] <jrib> Zencyde2: yes.  What window manager do you use?
[02:38] <Zencyde2> I'm using Gnome and Compiz.
[02:38] <jrib> elad`: ddclient is one.  There are others.  Search the repositories
[02:38] <elpargo> Zencyde2: I know there is a third-party, not sure with stock gnome
[02:38] <dang-artman> you can use no-ip with Ubuntu
[02:39] <dang-artman> or DYN-DNS
[02:39] <S0LIDUS> elad: use a static ip and for DNS dyndns.com
[02:39] <Zencyde> Hmm..
[02:39] <Zencyde> Maybe Compiz has a setting for it.
[02:39] <Zxcvb> would there be any problems running ubuntu on a 1GHz i586 CPU due to a lack of CMOV and other i686 instructions?
[02:39] <wolf23> help please! how to kill emesene from Terminal?
[02:40] <cabrey> S0LIDUS, the whole point of no-ip or dyndns is so that you don't need a static ip
[02:40] <dang-artman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[02:40] <jrib> Zencyde: last time I checked (a long time ago), yes you can have different wallpapers if you use cube, but you have to tell nautilus to stop drawing the background (which means no icons on the desktop)
[02:40] <Zencyde> I'm using Expo. :(
[02:40] <jrib> Zencyde: try the compiz channel
[02:40] <jrib> !compiz | Zencyde
[02:40] <Zencyde> Okay.
[02:40] <S0LIDUS> cabrey: Oh I thought you bind the IP to an adrress!
[02:40] <cxo> kapil, jtaji thanks
[02:41] <kain> SOLIDUS: pysdm doesn't see my ntfs partitions :S
[02:41] <wizzo50> Hello everyone! I'm back. LOL!
[02:41] <cabrey> S0LIDUS, no it updates the DNS records at each interval (and eventually when your ip changes)
[02:42] <S0LIDUS> cabrey: yes I know what it does but you should be recommenfing STATIC IPs!
[02:42] <cabrey> S0LIDUS, $$$
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> !info pysdm
[02:42] <Dr_Willis> I dont recall pysdm ever working.....
[02:42] <dang-artman> yeah! if you can get a freaking static IP
[02:42] <S0LIDUS> kain: NTFS has issues in linux, you should be using ext4
[02:42] <fosa> anyone know a way to get java to work in firefox on intel 64?
[02:42] <littlebayer> dyndns.org works very well, i think they even have some scripts on their site you can use
[02:42] <jrib> !java > fosa
[02:43] <dang-artman> google the DYNDNS updater
[02:43] <dang-artman> it's right at the top of the page
[02:43] <tyranis> is there a way to change the size of the disk in a wubi install
[02:43] <S0LIDUS> cabrey: dyndns.com has a linux script!
[02:43] <kain> S0LIDUS: i'm using ext4 for my linux partition, the other partition i want to mount is a partition from when i installed windows, it has my data on it
[02:44] <S0LIDUS> kain: Are you using dual boot?
[02:44] <kain> S0LIDUS: ya
[02:44] <dang-artman> http://www.dyndns.com/support/clients/
[02:44] <kain> but i'm trying to stay on linux as much as possible cause i support open source :)
[02:44] <littlebayer> anyone know why my 9.04 install on a vm might fail to load the desktop
[02:44] <dang-artman> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DynamicDNS
[02:44] <KewL_> Hi anybody who have compiled and used bluez
[02:44] <bingo> Hii Room..!!
[02:45] <S0LIDUS> kain: Very good ! Give me a sec i'll try and find something!
[02:45] <fosa> does anyone have a -real- guide for getting java to work on firefox for intel64?
[02:45] <kain> S0LIDUS: the partition i'm trying to automount has my music on it, thats why i'm trying to automount it :P
[02:45] <kain> S0LIDUS: cool thanks :D
[02:45] <dang-artman> for some of us poor bastards that are behind a damn NAT at the ISP level..
[02:45] <usser> fosa, sudo apt-get install iced-tea-plugin
[02:45] <KewL_> I have compiled bluez
[02:45] <KewL_> but when i run
[02:45] <KewL_> hcitool scan
[02:45] <fosa> iced tea doesnt work well enough
[02:45] <bingo> ubuntu 8.04... how can permanantly save my iptables rules.. ? when i reboot my machine all rules get flush and just standard/bydeufault rules come again..
[02:45] <bliZZardz> my display settings are borked after a recent update(in Jaunty). as in, initially Xorg borked ; but i got sanity to it. but the display settings are now on 800x600. how do i change this?(am on Acer AMD 64 bit geForce 7000m)
[02:46] <jrib> !iptables > bingo
[02:46] <KewL_> it doesnt showup any devices ,.. :(
[02:46] <usser> fosa, tough luck, java doesnt have a 64 bit plugin, if thats what you really need
[02:46] <arthur_> hum i have a question? i was using hardy 8.04 just installed 8.10 to check it out my question is???? i had to put options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout in /etc/modprobe.conf to get sound to work now modprobe.conf dont seem to be in /etc what do i do? its a toshiba satellite... help
[02:46] <fosa> is it possible to use a 32 bit plugin on a 64 bit ubuntu?
[02:46] <usser> fosa, 64 bit java itself works just fine, just not the plugin
[02:46] <usser> fosa, yea sure
[02:46] <dang-artman> you can get java to work if you install the 32bit compatibility libraries!
[02:46] <usser> fosa, but you'll need a 32 bit browser
[02:46] <fosa> is there a different browser with a working plugin?
[02:46] <kain> SOLIDUS: i think i found something    http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=785263
[02:47] <bingo> ubottu: thanks..
[02:47] <bingo> :D
[02:47] <usser> fosa, 32 bit firefox from mozilla.com will work with 32 bit java just fine
[02:47] <S0LIDUS> kain: I was just going to give you that!
[02:47] <bliZZardz> when i run 'xvidtune', it says, "video modes are not tunable on this chip"
[02:47] <kain> SOLIDUS: lol
[02:47] <kain> SOLIDUS: i
[02:47] <kain> SOLIDUS: i'll try it out :P
[02:47] <bingo> well, so how can permanetnly save firewall rules ?
[02:47] <fosa> usser, okay thats next on my to-do list, thanks
[02:47] <usser> fosa, 32 bit java plugin is in the repos, you'll just need to install 32 bit browser thats all
[02:48] <jrib> bingo: read what ubottu sent you...
[02:48] <S0LIDUS> kain: pysdm might see NTFS with ntfs-config installed
[02:48] <kain> nice
[02:48] <solomon> is there, say, a way to install lilo instead of grub or something?
[02:48] <S0LIDUS> LONG LIVE UBUNTU!!!
[02:49] <Nozy> ok some people need help ^^^
[02:49] <arthur_> hum i have a question? i was using hardy 8.04 just installed 8.10 to check it out my question is???? i had to put "options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout" in /etc/modprobe.conf to get sound to work now modprobe.conf dont seem to be in /etc what do i do? its a toshiba satellite... help
[02:49] <Nozy> or a *HUG*
[02:49] <kain> SOLIDUS: the pysdm doesn't see NTFS with ntfs-config, i'm continuing from the forum
[02:50] <tannerS> is there a limewire type app for ubuntu? to download songs alone?
[02:50] <Dr_Willis> !limewire
[02:50] <Amorstus> There is limewire for linux
[02:51] <tannerS> !java
[02:51] <dang-artman> Frostwire is nice
[02:51] <kain> SOLIDUS: awesome, the ntfs-config worked perfectly, now i just have to test if it automounts when login
[02:51] <losher> solomon: you could install lilo I think, but grub is generally better, so why would you want to?
[02:51] <tannerS> ty
[02:51] <jli> hi, how to list file of a package without use the gui package manager?
[02:51] <jrib> jli: dpkg -L PACKAGE
[02:51] <kain> SOLIDUS: have u any experience with MMS radio servers?
[02:51] <elad`> How do I find out my own IP?
[02:51] <mathew> arthur_ > I don't have a modprobe.conf in /etc/ either
[02:52] <Nosg> Hey guys, help me get this to the frontpage, will you? Thanks! http://digg.com/linux_unix/Having_a_Mac_costs_an_extra_400
[02:52] <jrib> elad`: ifconfig or whatismyip.org depending on what you mean
[02:52] <mathew> find your IP: go to http://www.whatsmyip.org/
[02:52] <elad`> ifconfig doesn't show me <79.180.145.47>, which I believe to be my IP.
[02:52] <sedontane> where does udev store files?
[02:53] <sedontane> specifically where do i drop the firmware file for my tv card
[02:53] <arthur_> i am going to try something need to reboot brb
[02:53] <jrib> elad`: ifconfig gives you your local ip.  If you want your router's ip then go to whatismyip.org
[02:53] <mathew> be right back, rebooting
[02:53] <owner_> jeez
[02:53] <elad`> Tells me it's 79.180.145.47. Can you please visit that and tell me what you see?
[02:53] <owner_> jaunty sure is fussy
[02:53] <elad`> Over HTTP, that is.
[02:54] <eyes9000_> I have new version of ubuntu working, what is special about it why should I use it...?
[02:54] <owner_> eyes9000_, updated packages and hopefully better security in short.
[02:54] <owner_> why do you want to run it?
[02:54] <fosa> hasn't it been 3 years since 64bit came out?
[02:55] <fosa> why isnt there a sun plugin yet?
[02:55] <theoryx> oh there is..
[02:55] <elad`> jrib, do you see my router or my apache when going to that ip?
[02:55] <sedontane> specifically where do i drop the firmware file for my tv card
[02:55] <kain> hi all, is there anyone who has found a solution to a problem with webcam's not showing an image nor sound when using it in a virtualbox windows machine?
[02:55] <jli> Thanks.
[02:55] <jrib> fosa: the bug on sun's tracker was YEARS old.  Anyway I thought they did release a 64bit plug-in recently
[02:55] <jrib> elad`: I see MY router
[02:55] <elad`> ?!
[02:55] <jli> jrib: Thanks
[02:55] <elad`> Maybe we have the same router?
[02:56] <fosa> they did??
[02:56] <elad`> WRT...?
[02:56] <jrib> elad`: oh sorry, you didn't address me before.  I see nothing... it times out at 79.180.145.47
[02:56] <dang-artman> yeah, I got a timeout as well
[02:56] <fosa> where might that plugin be?
[02:56] <elad`> jrib, try again please. What now?
[02:56] <jrib> fosa: key word is "thought"
[02:56] <sedontane> erm does anyone know where i should drop firmware files on my system?
[02:56] <jrib> elad`: router
[02:56] <theoryx> fosa: Yeah. They did release it.
[02:57] <elad`> jrib, crap.
[02:57] <fosa> theoryx, a tip as to where it is would be nice
[02:58] <linux_trojan> I have been trying to install Mythbuntu and I get an error at start up similar to:  GRUB LOADING   ERROR 2, any suggestions?
[02:58] <theoryx> fosa: on their website. I think it was released on December 2008.
[02:58] <dang-artman> elad: I got nothing still
[02:58] <paulli1214> 早上好
[02:58] <elad`> jrib, I've just installed Apache2, and I get the "It Works!" page if I access localhost via HTTP. Is it still, per chance, not configured for connections coming from outside my own network?
[02:58] <jrib> fosa: you should probably check ubuntu's bug tracker as to why it isn't packaged (or maybe it is)
[02:58] <arthur__> mathew this works open a text editor put "options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout" with out the quotes save it in your documents.. then from terminal type sudo cp /home/arthur/Documents/modprobe.conf /etc .... then reboot
[02:58] <RORgasm> hey guys i think i found the fix to my problem... but i do not know how to iplement the fix
[02:58] <jrib> elad`: are you forwarding port 80 to your machine?
[02:58] <RORgasm> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/314928
[02:59] <elad`> jrib, you mean, via the router?
[02:59] <elad`> *in
[02:59] <RORgasm> glicks, https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/314928
[02:59] <jrib> elad`: yes
[02:59] <linux_trojan> I cant install a single linux distro on my windows box coz neither grub nor lilo work
[02:59] <elad`> I don't think I am. But if I did, would I no longer be able to configure my router via HTTP?
[02:59] <linux_trojan> no one has any ideas?
[02:59] <RORgasm> i don't know how the guys who did that are doing it?
[02:59] <RORgasm> linux_trojan, whats the exact problem?
[03:00] <RORgasm> linux_trojan, trying to dual-boot?
[03:00] <fosa> theoryx, from the java website: This procedure installs the J2SE Runtime Environment, but not the Java Plug-in or Java Web Start (which are not yet available for 64-bit Linux)
[03:00] <mathew> arthur__ > I'll give that a try
[03:00] <arthur__> mathew this works open a text editor put "options snd-hda-intel model=6stack-digout" with out the quotes save it in your documents.. then from terminal type sudo cp /where/ever/you/saved/modprobe.conf /etc .... then reboot
[03:00] <linux_trojan> no dual boot
[03:00] <linux_trojan> all linux
[03:00] <jrib> elad`: no
[03:00] <linux_trojan> I get GRUB LOADING, ERROR 2
[03:00] <jrib> elad`: portforward.com
[03:00] <linux_trojan> thats it
[03:00] <yowshi> anyone know how to unmount something in the /dev folder? stupid dosbox wont let go of the stupid usb joystick. i need a way to get the device/module freed up without rebooting
[03:00] <arthur__> that just worked for me
[03:00] <RORgasm> linux_trojan, huh...so u formatted the harddrive, created a new partition, adn installed ubuntu and it still doesn't work?
[03:00] <sp219> Anyone know if there are 3d ATi drivers for the mobility radeon hd 4570 yet? There were non-3d drivers the last time I checked, but the lack of 3d support kept me away from linux.
[03:00] <eyes9000_> Iwhat can be done well with ubuntu that cant be done well with mac leoport or win vista???
[03:00] <RORgasm> linux_trojan, what happens? what error do u get?
[03:01] <linux_trojan> yes. 2 hd , one is / and /home and /swap, the other is /movies
[03:01] <eyes9000_> i mean I have it installed and running now what do I do with it?
[03:01] <dang-artman> linux trojan: what's with the name??
[03:01] <biglinux> boa noite a todos! BB
[03:01] <linux_trojan> my nick is a joke
[03:01] <eyes9000_> anyone
[03:01] <RORgasm> eyes9000_, installing open-source software and updating them easily.... mac ports sucks
[03:01] <InfoNutz> lol that name scared me
[03:01] <altf2o> eyes9000_, use it for daily use like anything else.
[03:02] <eyes9000_> what does it do really well
[03:02] <enduser000> hello, I have a laptop and an external monitor and a nvidia graphics card.  I want to set the external monitor to be vertical and the laptop monitor to be horozontal.  I'm using ubuntu 9.04, the nvidia driver 185.18.14, and twinview. does anyone know how I could do this? my xorg.conf file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m6a50fcee and my Xorg.0.log file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m5925d3eb
[03:02] <RORgasm> can anone help me with this... how do i implement the fix mentioned here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/xserver-xorg-video-intel/+bug/314928 ?
[03:02] <altf2o> it does whatever you want it to do.
[03:02] <linux_trojan> on hdb I am mounting it as /movies, could that be the problem?
[03:02] <eyes9000_> is all 3rd party software open source too?
[03:02]  * dsdeiz_ is looking for a zenburn theme for irssi
[03:02] <eyes9000_> i like that its light weight
[03:03] <elad`> jrib, could you try to access my site again?
[03:03] <linux_trojan> when I install LILO the error is 99 99 99 99 99 99 99  and so  on
[03:03] <theoryx> fosa: you can find it here: https://jdk6.dev.java.net/6uNea.html
[03:03] <jrib> RORgasm: I don't feel like reading all that, what are you referring to exactly?
[03:03] <bill-e11> noob question:  when a directory is referred to as ~/xyz, where would I create that directory?
[03:03] <eyes9000_> there are 1359 users in this room Ubuntu must have something special about it what is it?
[03:03] <jrib> elad`: timeout
[03:03] <altf2o> eyes9000_, the majority if what you'll find on Linux is open source, yes. As a matter of fact i don't know a commercial package myself personal.
[03:03] <Pici> bill-e11: ~/ refers to your home directory /home/yourusername
[03:03] <altf2o> some closed source perhaps, but all free.
[03:03] <eyes9000_> k
[03:03] <enduser000> my xorg.conf file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m6a50fcee and my Xorg.0.log file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m5925d3eb
[03:03] <bill-e11> thanks
[03:04] <jrib> elad`: wait it worked now, I see tiddlywiki
[03:04] <elad`> jrib, port forwarding complete. Could you try again?
[03:04] <linux_trojan> ok I guess I am just screwed
[03:04] <RORgasm> jrib, k so first ppl do 'lspci -vvnn' and they get some output...they take a look at the VGA compatible controlelr part of the output to check the Regions
[03:04] <elad`> jrib, I just enabled another thing. Got the patience to try just one more time?
[03:04] <jrib> elad`: still works
[03:05] <elad`> jrib, refreshed and all?
[03:05] <jrib> elad`: yep
[03:05] <elad`> Thanks!
[03:05] <RORgasm> jrib, and then they do something like 'sudo -s' next line 'echo "base=somhexathing size=anotherhexathing type=write-combining" > /proc/mtrr
[03:05] <FiReSTaRT> hey guys i'm a bit curious.. has anyone experienced consistent crashes while launching the Report a Problem app?
[03:05] <dsdeiz_> :q
[03:05] <RORgasm> jrib, i don't know how i'm supposed to know what values to put in base and size
[03:05] <jrib> RORgasm: put it up on a pastebin what it is you want to do
[03:05] <FiReSTaRT> i just want to re-report the suspend issue under jaunty (already done under hardy/intrepid)
[03:06] <RORgasm> jrib, if u read the first two comments on the post u should know whats going on...its better explained theere u don't have to read the whole thing
[03:07] <RORgasm> jrib, the first guy's post is the fix... i just need to know what those values mean and where do i get them for my system
[03:08] <ally> hi
[03:09] <enduser000> hello, I have a laptop and an external monitor and a nvidia graphics card.  I want to set the external monitor to be vertical and the laptop monitor to be horozontal.  I'm using ubuntu 9.04, the nvidia driver 185.18.14, and twinview. does anyone know how I could do this? my xorg.conf file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m6a50fcee and my Xorg.0.log file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m5925d3eb
[03:10] <steven_> Does anyone know what audio codec come installed with Ubuntu 9.04<
[03:11] <elad`> jrib, I keep getting "You need to save this TiddlyWiki to a file before you can save changes"
[03:11] <theoryx> steven_, you have unrestricted-extras installed ?
[03:11] <jrib> elad`: you need to read about how tiddlywiki works, I don't use it
[03:11] <jrib> RORgasm: looks like base is just the "prefetchable" region from the lspci -vvnn output to
[03:11] <jrib> me
[03:11] <steven_> Ubuntu 9.04 codecs? any installed at installation like audio ones?
[03:12] <cabrey> steven_, install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:12] <RORgasm> jrib, k what do u think about the size?
[03:13] <ctmjr> steven_: if your referring to mp3 and such no
[03:13] <Zxcvb> is there anything in ubuntu 9.04 that requires an i686 CPU?
[03:13] <jrib> RORgasm: size is what lspci gives for that region
[03:13] <cabrey> Zxcvb, it's compiled with i386 in mind
[03:13] <sigi> moin
[03:13] <jrib> RORgasm: what is your lspci -vvnn output?
[03:14] <Zxcvb> cabrey: just checking, because the xcore86 based netbooks are i586 and therefore won't have cmov and such (I think atom is i686)
[03:14] <Papageno> How can I make backspace do back in firefox like in Mac and Windows?
[03:14] <cabrey> Zxcvb, yes atoms are i686
[03:14] <steven_> were would I find ubuntu restricted extra's?
[03:14] <cabrey> steven_, in a terminal: sudo aptitude install ubuntu-restricted-extras
[03:14] <elad`> jrib, it would appear that I need to grant permission to the file to overwrite itself. Any idea how I do that with apache2, preferably without letting the file overwrite anything but itself?
[03:15] <Zxcvb> cabrey: does having i686 make that much difference if it is roughly the same speed just without the extra instructions?
[03:15] <kbrosnan> Papageno: about:config browser.backspace_action see http://kb.mozillazine.org/Browser.backspace_action
[03:15] <jrib> elad`: nope, I'm not sure that's even possible
[03:15] <cabrey> Zxcvb, I don't have anything to compare against, but I use adam's netbook kernel
[03:15] <RORgasm> jrib, http://pastie.org/517193 just look at the in the VGA compatiple controller part i think the rest is irrelevant
[03:15] <Zxcvb> cabrey: is it compiled for i686, or is it an i486 kernel?
[03:16] <cabrey> Zxcvb, i686
[03:16] <Get_Sum> I have a Fuji Xerox DocuPrint 203A, there is no driver for it in Ubuntu; So I went to the manafacturer's website and they have a Linux driver for it; I downloaded a zip file and it contains 2 Deb files and 2 Rpm files - what do I do with them?
[03:16] <steven_> this linux mint os ie derived of ubuntu isn't all that well at least to me, so I am gonna go back to ubuntu, currently downloading Ubuntu 9.04
[03:16] <Zxcvb> cabrey: won't work then, will probably go for a custom kernel
[03:16] <enduser000> I have a laptop and an external monitor and a nvidia graphics card.  I want to set the external monitor to be vertical and the laptop monitor to be horozontal.  I'm using ubuntu 9.04, the nvidia driver 185.18.14, and twinview. does anyone know how I could do this? my xorg.conf file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m6a50fcee and my Xorg.0.log file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m5925d3eb
[03:16] <elad`> jrib, only a beginner, and already I'm pushing the envelope! :-)
[03:16] <jrib> RORgasm: Region 2: Memory at c0000000 (32-bit, prefetchable) [size=256M]  there's an example like that in the comments I think: molecule-eye
[03:16] <mib_x6iuiqx6> hi i'm new to ubuntu - have a question - i just edited my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and changed to port 30000; then, i installed ufw (firewall) and set allow port 30000, then set 'ufw default deny'; however, when i try to ssh from a differnt terminal, it keeps closing connection
[03:17] <theoryx> steven_, if you're making a windows - linux transition, i would recommend you stick to ubuntu for a little while.
[03:17] <sigi> hallo
[03:17] <mib_x6iuiqx6> I also restarted ssh, i.e. /etc/init.d/ssh restart
[03:17] <sedontane> im having trouble getting Intrepid to load nvidia glx drivers
[03:18] <steven_> yes, I have used lots of linux distro in the past and thought well I have been using ubuntu for some time now, I am not new to linux at all and well linux mint just doesn't seem all that to me lol
[03:18] <RORgasm> jrib, k i got that...what about the size?
[03:18] <theoryx> steven_ , i feel ya.
[03:18] <theoryx> lol
[03:18] <mib_x6iuiqx6> Does anyone know why?
[03:18] <steven_> btw i was wondering how the ubuntu 9.04 driver were coming along last i read they didn't work well
[03:18] <jrib> RORgasm: did you see molecule-eye's comment?  He has the whole command
[03:19] <RORgasm> jrib, i did see it...and i think i have the same base as him...but will the same size work for me?
[03:19] <n2diy> Can someone point me to a link that explains why some commands work on my flash drive, /media/disk, but the same commands don't work on /dev/sdb1, which are the same device?
[03:19] <jrib> RORgasm: yes, you both have 256mb right?
[03:19] <mib_x6iuiqx6> If i edit sshd_config file, do I have to restart whole server, or can i just restart /etc/init.d/ssh restart?
[03:19] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: the latter
[03:19] <steven_> I have onboard 256mb
[03:19] <RORgasm> jrib, not sure...i either have 1025 mbram or a lil less than that
[03:19] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i just did that, but still it is refusing the connection
[03:19] <jrib> RORgasm: look at your lspci output
[03:20] <RORgasm> jrib, how can i check
[03:20] <Titan8990> n2diy, /dev are devices.... only very few programs can interact directly with a block device
[03:20] <iGuelph> anyone having problems with EC2 ?
[03:20] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: provide more context
[03:20] <RORgasm> jrib, where in the output should i be looking?
[03:20] <steven_> thats my graphics allocated memory
[03:20] <Titan8990> n2diy, so it is mounted on a location in the filesystem where it can be accessed
[03:20] <steven_> I have 2GB of DDR2 RAM
[03:20] <jrib> RORgasm: the same line with c0000000
[03:20] <Titan8990> n2diy, in your case, /media/disk but this can be anywhere in the filesystem
[03:20] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: okay, i just edited my /etc/ssh/sshd_config file and changed to port 30000; then, i installed ufw (firewall) and set allow port 30000, then set 'ufw default deny'; however, when i try to ssh from a differnt terminal, it keeps closing connection
[03:20] <steven_> 160 GB hard drive SATA and SATA DVD burner
[03:20] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: on the same machine you mean?
[03:21] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i am trying ssh -p30000 <my ip address>
[03:21] <sedontane> hi any tips on getting ubuntu to install the nvidia drivers?
[03:21] <RORgasm> jrib, k so yeah it is the same as the other guy's let me try this then
[03:21] <jrib> !nvidia > sedontane
[03:21] <Get_Sum> Can anyone help me install a printer driver?
[03:21] <n2diy> Titan8990: ok, so when I want to wipe my flash drive, where should I send my rm command?
[03:21] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: so i am logged in in one terminal (so i don't get locked out just in case); i opened up another terminal on an external computer
[03:21] <sedontane> thanks jrib
[03:21] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: is there a router in between?
[03:22] <steven_> my motherboard is a Gigabyte M61PME-S2P GeForce 6100 Socket AM2
[03:22] <Titan8990> n2diy, to the mount point
[03:22] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: well kind of, the external server is a hosted virtual private server, i am sshing to it from my cable modem behind a router
[03:22] <steven_> I have a AMD Athlon Dual-Core 5200+ processor 2.7 Ghz
[03:22] <theoryx> steven_, show off ? lol
[03:22] <RORgasm> jrib, wohooo...THAT FIXED MY PROB!!!
[03:22] <cabrey> !who | steven_
[03:22] <n2diy> Titan8990: which is /media/disk?
[03:22] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: can you ssh on the open terminal to localhost?
[03:22] <RORgasm> jrib, thanx a lot
[03:22] <tannersummers_> !limewire
[03:22] <steven_> lol
[03:22] <jrib> RORgasm: no problem
[03:23] <tannersummers_> !frostwire
[03:23] <Titan8990> n2diy, if you wanted to erase it interacting with the block device you would do something like this (not recommended): dd if=/dev/random of=/dev/sdb1
[03:23] <Anirban1987> How can I upgrade from php 5.2.6 ( Inbuilt in Ubuntu 9.04 Server ed.) to latest stable ver. php 5.2.9 ?
[03:23] <RORgasm> glitsj16, i fixed my flash problem
[03:23] <Titan8990> n2diy, if thats what cat /etc/mtab returns then yes
[03:23] <steven_> I was susprised to find that ubuntu actually lets me use my USB speakers
[03:23] <tannersummers_> !java
[03:23] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: no, localhost is connection refused...weird
[03:23] <xanfantasy> How do I get the file,view,help bar back in applications such as gnome-xchat and pidgin? it is still present in Firefox and open office.
[03:23] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: you are making sure to use port 30000?
[03:24] <steven_> even with all that power I refuse to run windows xp or vista
[03:24] <steven_> lol
[03:24] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[03:24] <theoryx> lol steven_ ..
[03:24] <ctmjr> !lol
[03:24] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: yes, ssh -p30000 <my server ip> ; this is actually the second time i am setting it up - last time, i thought i was locked out, but it worked when i restarted the server
[03:24] <rizon> what platform does ubuntu run best in
[03:24] <n2diy> Titan8990: ok, thanks. If it is not recommended, why are you recommending it? :) Thiis is a concept I'm having trouble grasping.
[03:25] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: but if i restart the server and i can't log in, then i'm screwed
[03:25] <steven_> built the machine myself total cost $600 which included my cube case and 19" flat panel monitor and it the best computer I have ever had
[03:25] <Titan8990> n2diy, dd can interact with because it actually alters the bits on a low level
[03:25] <enduser000> hello, I have a laptop and an external monitor and a nvidia graphics card.  I want to set the external monitor to be vertical and the laptop monitor to be horozontal.  I'm using ubuntu 9.04, the nvidia driver 185.18.14, and twinview. does anyone know how I could do this? my xorg.conf file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m6a50fcee and my Xorg.0.log file looks like this: http://pastebin.com/m5925d3eb
[03:25] <Titan8990> n2diy, its possible, because dd has not concept of a filesystem
[03:25] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: wait, you've restarted since changing the sshd config file to use port 30000 right?
[03:25] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: restarted sshd I mean
[03:25] <Titan8990> n2diy, it just writes random ones or zeros to each bit
[03:26] <Titan8990> n2diy, dd would make all space as "unused" but would not alter the bits
[03:26] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: yes restarted sshd, not restarted the entire server
[03:26] <tannersummers_> how do i download the latest java
[03:26] <Titan8990> n2diy, sorry, rm would mark it as unused
[03:26] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i meant last time i installed, i restarted the entire server and it worked
[03:26] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: make sure sshing with the old port doesn't work (locally again)
[03:26] <ectospasm> enduser000: you'll proabably need to specify the geometries for both screens, and set a rotation on the one that's vertical.
[03:26] <ctmjr> enduser000:  try this and remember google is your friend http://www.chrisamiller.com/blog/2008/05/11/rotating-one-monitor-with-ubuntu/
[03:26] <Anirban1987> How can I upgrade from php 5.2.6 ( Inbuilt in Ubuntu 9.04 Server ed.) to latest stable ver. php 5.2.9 ?
[03:27] <n2diy> Titan8990: ok, but I'm not playiing with dd, I'm playing with sbackup, which is using tar. I've got sbackup working, but erasing the flash drive is a pita.
[03:27] <arick> What is the channel for ubuntu beginning programming?
[03:27] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: so you mean try to ssh to myself (i.e. ssh localhost) on the server where i am logged in, or the computer i am using to ssh to the server
[03:27] <xanfantasy> How do I get the file,view,help bar back in applications such as gnome-xchat and pidgin? it is still present in Firefox and open office.
[03:27] <sanni> irc://66.252.24.163/
[03:27] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: ssh localhost
[03:27] <Titan8990> n2diy, why is that?
[03:27] <TroN-0074> can somebody tell me how to setup my monitor I have ubuntu 9.04
[03:27] <tannersummers_> guys when grub ask me to choose whioch os to load i have 2 ubuntu and oens old how do i remove it
[03:27] <steven_> for search use google.com the best and for the best DNS servers use opendns... cant go wrong
[03:27] <Titan8990> n2diy, MOUNTPOINT = /media/disk; rm -rf $MOUNTPOINT
[03:28] <soreau> tannersummers_: Remove those linux kernel versions via synaptic
[03:28] <TroN-0074> I just put this monitor today and the resolution is off I would like to change it
[03:28] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: on the computer that i am using to ssh into the server, when i type ssh localhost it refuses the connection on port 22
[03:28] <Titan8990> n2diy, you can edit fstab to ensure that the flash drive is always mounted to the same location
[03:28] <n2diy> Titan8990: rm -r /dev/sdb1 returns device busy errors, and so does rm -r /media/disk
[03:28] <dang-artman> TroN: what kind of video card are you using?
[03:28] <TroN-0074> an intel
[03:29] <steven_> my res on my monitor is 1440x900
[03:29] <dang-artman> that would most likely be the problem
[03:29] <TroN-0074> is a built in chipset video card
[03:29] <Cpudan80> n2diy: unmount /media/disk
[03:29] <Titan8990> n2diy, look at what I said again
[03:29] <Titan8990> n2diy, rm -rf
[03:29] <rizon> what platform does ubuntu run best in
[03:29] <dang-artman> if you just setup Ubuntu, you are going to have to get the config setup manually
[03:29] <Titan8990> Cpudan80, how is unmounting it going to help him delete the files?
[03:29] <Cpudan80> oh he's actually trying to delete everything from the drive?
[03:29] <n2diy> Titan8990: rf? f= force?\
[03:29] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: I mean try « ssh localhost » on the terminal with the open ssh connection to the server
[03:29] <Cpudan80> yes - f=force
[03:29] <dang-artman> Nvidia cards tend to be the easiest
[03:29] <Titan8990> Cpudan80, n2diy yep
[03:29] <Cpudan80> n2diy: it is also not a good way to remove everything from the drive
[03:30] <Cpudan80> you should just format it
[03:30] <TroN-0074> dag-artman can you please tell me how to set it up
[03:30] <n2diy> Titan8990: ok,
[03:30] <enduser000> thanks for the help, trying it now ^^
[03:31] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: that one refuses connection on port 22 as well
[03:31] <dang-artman> TroN: do you know what chipset it is?
[03:31] <tannersummers_> guys when grub ask me to choose whioch os to load i have 2 ubuntu and oens old how do i remove it
[03:31] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: weird, but how did you connect currently?
[03:31] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i was already connected, and then i changed it
[03:31] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: but didn't you restart sshd?
[03:31] <ethan> tannersummers: get gnome partition editor and remove the partition it is in
[03:31] <xanfantasy> How do I get the file,view,help bar back in applications such as gnome-xchat and pidgin? it is still present in Firefox and open office.
[03:31] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: do connections somehow persist when you do that?
[03:31] <linuxman410> anyone know of good invoicing program for ubuntu
[03:32] <n2diy> Cpudan80: It's a flash drive, I'm not worried about what is on it. I'm trying to work out a backup system I can rely on, and I'm practicing on the flash drive.
[03:32] <Titan8990> tannersummers_, delete the lines for it in /boot/grub/menu.lst
[03:32] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: so i've been logged on, and i connected and changed ssh and stuff and restarted sshd, and i'm still connected
[03:32] <Titan8990> tannersummers_, one should be a recovery mode that should not be removed however
[03:32] <Cpudan80> n2diy: ah ok
[03:32] <tannersummers_> ethan, no what i mean is there is only one ubuntu partiton but i guess ther kernal got updated?
[03:32] <ethan> xanfantasy: you should be able to edit the menu and add them back
[03:32] <gaddzilla> n2diy: have you tried rsync?
[03:32] <tannersummers_> titan8998 theres 4 total. 2 and 2 recoverys
[03:32] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: so the first time i tried to restart sshd, i forgot to put 'sudo', and it may have restarted improperly? Do you think that I need to log off first?
[03:33] <ethan> tannersummer: you mean there are several differnt kernals to select from
[03:33] <tannersummers_> ethan correct
[03:33] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: no, I just thought you would get disconnected, but ok
[03:33] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: it is weird that i can stay connected to ssh even though i restarted it, right?
[03:33] <tannersummers_> i need to remove the old
[03:33] <fosa> how to identify what the installation directory is for firefox?
[03:33] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: try changing the port back to 22 and see if it works?
[03:33] <ethan> tannersummer: yeah the first one on the list will be the most up to date but i don't know if you can remove the others from the list
[03:33] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: okay
[03:33] <dang-artman> TroN: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution
[03:34] <dang-artman> start there
[03:34] <tannersummers_> ethan iv done it once, just forgot how
[03:34] <jrib> fosa: use ~/.mozilla/plugins/ for plugins if that's why you want to know
[03:34] <ethan> tannersummer: sorry i can't help you out i've never really had that problem
[03:34] <dang-artman> but it helps if you know what video chipset version it is, like i815, 845, 865 ect
[03:34] <nellmathew> hey anyone here prefer ReiserFS over Ext3/4?.. I was playing around with different file systems and I dunno if it's just me but RFS seems a LOT more responsive (and i also have more free space with a fresh install) anyone else wanna comment?
[03:35] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i reset to port 22, and then restarted sshd, and i can ssh fine now
[03:35] <tannersummers_> so does anyone know?
[03:35] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: what is going on?
[03:35] <fosa> these install instructions seem a little out-dated but it's all java provides: http://java.sun.com/javase/6/webnotes/install/jre/manual-plugin-install-linux.html
[03:35] <gaddzilla> nellmathew: if you don't have an UPS you should be wary of reiserFS, also if you look at benchmarks there is some conflicting data, but ext4 tends to be the fastest when you average out all the times
[03:35] <fosa> but there isn't a firefox/plugins folder at ~mozilla
[03:36] <CoJaBo-Aztec> nellmathew: I chose Ext3 because it seemed to be more standard, so likely more tools can read it.
[03:36] <steven_> as to the comment earlier about P2P LImeWire, you could also use FrostWire, it's Open Source
[03:36] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i have some other servers installed, (no other firewalls); could those be interfering? probably not....
[03:36] <jimmyjh> hello all, is there a way to disable gnome-panel?
[03:36] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: any ideas?
[03:36] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: how about some port like 2222, does that work?
[03:36] <Titan8990> nellmathew, i think reiser's main benefit is with very small files
[03:36] <tannersummers_> wats the best firewall for ubuntu
[03:36] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: my guess would be the firewall
[03:36] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, use a different DE?
[03:37] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: well i wanted to keep gnome, i wanted to replace both panels with an dock
[03:37] <ethan> anybody know what pidgin plugin is for what i'm listening to
[03:37] <ctmjr> !firewall|tannersummers_:
[03:37] <gaddzilla> @tannersummers_: depends on how complex you want your rules to be. shorewall is great, but it can be difficult to learn. iptables offers the most flexibility, and ubuntu firewall is easy to configure with the GUI
[03:37] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, you should be able to right click on the panel to delete it
[03:37] <steven_> why would you want a firewall for ubuntu or for linux for that matter, linux is much safer than windows and plus hackers are gonna most likely wanna go after a windows machine before they would want to a linux machine
[03:37] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, may have to uncheck "locked"
[03:37] <theoryx> fosa: can't find the java6 package using the synaptic package manager?
[03:37] <dang-artman> LOL!!!!!!!!!!!
[03:38] <dang-artman> of course you want a firewall
[03:38] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, but you will be losing a clock and possibly a notification area
[03:38] <arthur__> is there a way from a terminal window to check if your having sound problems?
[03:38] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: i dont wanna delete the panels.. i was wondering if there was a way to stop the loading or kill gnome-panel
[03:38] <gaddzilla> @steven_: that is a terrible idea. you definitely want a firewall
[03:38] <nellmathew> @Titan8990, gaddzilla, CojaBo-Aztec: thanks for the info. Nice to have a few reliable options..
[03:38] <ethan> anybody know what pidgin plugin is for what i'm listening to
[03:38] <n2diy> gaddzilla: rsync is a pita too. I finally got a Ubuntu box  setup in the "wild" with a friend of mine. She doesn't want mess around with command line stuff, so I'm trying to come up with a point and click solution for here, sbackup seem to be the way to go.
[03:38] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: so easy putting them back on later...
[03:38] <tannersummers_> i have firestarter but always get failed message during boot for it
[03:38] <dang-artman> linux is much safer than windows because it's less likely to be attacked
[03:38] <fosa> theoryx, it seems like the right version of java is installed, but now it needs to be registered in firefox
[03:38] <steven_> well I dont as I have 2 of them on my network and both are hardware firewalls lol
[03:38] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, ehh
[03:39] <dang-artman> EVERY piece of software out there is vulnerable
[03:39] <ethan> anybody know what th pidgin plugin is for what i'm listening to is called
[03:39] <theoryx> arthur_ you can run the sound test
[03:39] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, don't use gnome but try: ps | grep gnome-panel
[03:39] <robertrankinjr> Not to mention the general nature of a Linux system. That said, vulnerabilities do occur occasionally, so a firewall isn't an entirely horrible idea
[03:39] <dang-artman> but people have to want to attack it
[03:39] <jrib> fosa: you create it.  And it's ~/.mozilla/plugins/ that I said
[03:39] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, then kill the pid
[03:39] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: its not the firewall, because i just disabled the firewall, and the same stuff happens
[03:39] <fosa> jrib, you mean mozilla/firefox/plugins ?  that doesnt exist
[03:39] <dang-artman> if we had all our ports open, we would be part of a bot net in a day, tops
[03:39] <gaddzilla> n2diy: do a google search for "rsync cron script" and you'll find a bunch of pre-made ones that can do neat stuff like incremental backups or a weekly backup that deletes the previous ones automatically. no user input is required.
[03:39] <fosa> jrib, mozilla/plugins also doesnt exist
[03:40] <jrib> fosa: no, I mean what I said.  And I said to create what I said...
[03:40] <theoryx> fosa: you have to create the folder
[03:40] <Titan8990> n2diy, rsync is not a pita.... its considered to be the holy grail of synchronization tools
[03:40] <ctmjr> arthur__: you can run speaker-test from the terminal
[03:40] <Titan8990> n2diy, its syntax is clear and supports many features
[03:40] <steven_> is this a port he is referring to be blocked?
[03:41] <n2diy> gaddzilla: 10-4
[03:41] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: it comes back on,, it has that issue lol
[03:41] <Titan8990> n2diy, and also there is rsnapshot which is a perl wrapper around rsync that allows for easy automated configuration of the classic incremental sync + rotate
[03:41] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: how do i check if a port is blocked or not
[03:42] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, wouldn't know then, havn't tried anything like that
[03:42] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, you could just remove the bottom panel and auto-hide the top
[03:42] <fosa> jrib, theoryx oh, ok, then the next step would be something like this? : ln -s /home/fosa/Desktop/jre1.6.0_14/plugin/desktop/sun_java.desktop
[03:42] <jimmyjh> Titan8990:  yea would be nice to do,, what do you use?
[03:42] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: .. true
[03:42] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, XFCE on my desktop and icewm on my laptop
[03:42] <steven_> use port scan under network tools
[03:43] <n2diy> Titan8990: um, ok, now my head is spinning. I thought rsync had security issues? But for all I know sbackup may have them too?
[03:43] <Titan8990> jimmyjh, I like lighter-weight desktops
[03:43] <jimmyjh> Titan8990: lxde is looking nice
[03:43] <fosa> jrib theoryx i'm getting a little lost from the tutorial: ln -s <JRE>/plugin/i386/<ns7 | ns7-gcc29>/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[03:43] <dulouz> hello, i was wondering what the "+" means at the end of "-rwxr-xr-x+". I never noticed it before on any files until now
[03:43] <steven_> and input the port and scan it, the system will report wiether the port is open or not
[03:43] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: i port scan the server that i am trying to ssh into?
[03:43] <Titan8990> n2diy, the rsync network protocol does have security issues because it is not encrypted but easily solved by using ssh instead (which it has built-in support for)
[03:43] <jrib> dulouz: what file has that?
[03:44] <steven_> yes just port scan it and it will tell you
[03:44] <Titan8990> n2diy, that issue would only arise if you wanted to send the backups across the internet using the rsync daemon
[03:44] <steven_> is the server on your network or another network?
[03:44] <dulouz> jrib: some file i made in /etc/rc.d/ while trying to configure a lisp webserver
[03:44] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: okay scanning now
[03:44] <steven_> good :-)
[03:45] <steven_> tell me what you get and well go from there
[03:45] <jrib> dulouz: http://www.cygwin.com/ml/cygwin/2007-09/msg00459.html
[03:46] <Titan8990> dulouz, you shouldn't make files there
[03:46] <Titan8990> dulouz, make the script in /etc/init.d and use the update-rc.d tool to write the files to the /etc/rc.d directories
[03:46] <Titan8990> dulouz, its the debian way
[03:46] <n2diy> Titan8990: roger that. I have to work out the details with my friend, I can backup her box on site, or remotely, not sure which way she wants to go. I'm just trying to figure out both options.
[03:46] <jrib> dulouz: http://docs.sun.com/app/docs/doc/819-2239/ls-1?a=view has it though the man page for ls on my ubuntu and arch don't mention plus...
[03:46] <dulouz> Titan: typo, i made it in init.d
[03:47] <Titan8990> n2diy, well... there is always the problem that secure = slower due to the overhead the encryption gives
[03:47] <steven_> mib_x6iuiqx6 is the server on your network or outside? like on another network?
[03:47] <Rug> Howdy all
[03:47] <steven_> Hi Rug
[03:47] <pahom> hi all
[03:47] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: so its still scanning, only came up with port 80; its an external virtual priviate server
[03:47] <theoryx> fosa: replace <JRE> by your directory. everything else stays the same.
[03:47] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: i installed apache and nginx as proxy - that could be it right?
[03:47] <YOSPOS> DCC SEND ubunturocksguyshahaha
[03:47] <steven_> so only port 80 showed up?
[03:48] <theoryx> wow
[03:48] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: its still scanning, but yes only port 80
[03:48] <milo_> please how do I change open office into french?
[03:48] <enduser000> I am trying to get two monitors working on ubuntu 9.04 and make one of them vertical.  Here is my xorg.conf file: http://pastebin.com/m4db9d161.  can anyone help me?
[03:48] <dulouz> jrib: that triggered something in my memory. i think it may be from chcon which is what some website said to use. off to read more on what that actually does
[03:48] <steven_> do u have a firewall or router/firewall combo by any chance?
[03:48] <theoryx> milo_, you gotta install the language pack
[03:49] <jrib> dulouz: wow, never heard of chcon...
[03:49] <n2diy> Titan8990: That is not an issue, she loves Ubuntu, she thinks it smokes Win, and besides, I could remotely back up her box when she isn't even home.
[03:49] <fosa> theoryx, the jre doesn't have the /plugin/i386/ directory, does that matter?
[03:49] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: personally, i am connecting to the vps from a cable modem behind a regular wireless router
[03:49] <gaddzilla> n2diy: does she have a boyfriend?
[03:49] <steven_> are the required ports open on the router?
[03:49] <steven_> port*
[03:49] <milo_> theoryx: hummm, how do i do that?
[03:49] <dulouz> jrib: someone else pointed me towards http://www.suse.de/~agruen/acl/linux-acls/online/
[03:49] <lwells> I know my machine has 4 GB of ram, but the system monitor tells me that there is only 2.7 GB , why is that?
[03:49] <Rug> I'm a long-time user of ubuntu (since the Woody release) and I have a dumb problem I can't fix.  Whenever I open Firefox it opens in offline mode.  I can uncheck the 'work offline' setting, but as soon as I restart FF, it is back to offline mode again.  Any suggestions?  (I have checked about:config and that looks ok)
[03:49] <dang-artman> group question: if you needed to change the language, to say french.. wouldn't you start with the OS?
[03:50] <gaddzilla> @lwells are you talking about in 32-bit windows xp? because that's a common problem.
[03:50] <jrib> Rug: does it happen if you create a new profile?
[03:50] <Rug> dang-artman: yeah,
[03:50] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: i don't think so - but yesterday i built up the same thing, and it worked fine - i just had to restart the entire server
[03:50] <n2diy> Umm, she is the boyfriend! =;o)
[03:50] <jrib> dang-artman: at the login screen, click on options, then language
[03:50] <Flannel> gaddzilla: Er, is that relevant at all?
[03:50] <Rug> jrib: let me check
[03:50] <theoryx> milo_ : sudo apt-get install language-pack-fr
[03:50] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: yesterday, i limited ssh to port 30000, and restarted the server, and bingo it worked
[03:50] <lwells> No, gaddzilla, it is in Ubunut
[03:50] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: however, i am scared now that it will not work, so i don't want to logout
[03:50] <steven_> check your ports in your router and if not open I would open but leave none required ports closed
[03:51] <milo_> theoryx: thank you!
[03:51] <Rug> jrib: Did you mean create a new user?
[03:51] <steven_> and reboot router if it requires then retry server, if that doesn't work then do a port scan again after opening the port
[03:51] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: so i followed this tutorial - minus all the ssh stuff - could it be that i have nginx server that is redirecting traffic? or is that just for http?
[03:51] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: http://lethain.com/entry/2009/feb/13/the-django-and-ubuntu-intrepid-almanac/
[03:51] <ravious> LTSP Question: Does anyone know or know a place to find out the min sys reqs of a thin client to be able to support full speed video playback as well as flash support? I've found all kind of LTSP support sites, but nothing as far as what clients are supported and what kinda performance to expect from them.
[03:51] <fait> what extension do plain text files have in ubuntu?
[03:51] <gaddzilla> @lwells well 32-bit ubuntu will give you a little less than 4 gigs usable, since 32-bit processing means the max memory addressing you can use is 2^32, but 2.75 seems awfully low. Have you tried the 64-bit version, or have you tried memtest?
[03:51] <jrib> Rug: firefox -ProfileManager
[03:52] <jrib> fait: doesn't matter
[03:52] <Rug> jrib: thanks
[03:52] <theoryx> fosa: no, but you should have something like <directory>/plugin/i386/
[03:52] <dang-artman> so, then, milo: you need to change your system to french first
[03:52] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: so if i disconnect and reboot the router, i will lose my connection to the server, which means i have the chance of not being able to login?
[03:52] <lwells> I thought i was using 64 bit Ubuntu
[03:52] <lwells> How can I tell?
[03:53] <Papageno> So I'm trying to enable two-finger scrolling on my synaptic touchpad. After including SMHConfigure "on" in my xorg.config, I suddenly have a trackpad tab in my mouse pref page, but the configs I make in xorg.conf are getting ignored for some reasons while the limited options I have in the mouse pref window do indeed have a working effect
[03:53] <Papageno> What gives?
[03:53] <devD> Like Fedora Ubuntu full distro DVD doesn,t come?
[03:53] <fosa> theoryx, so <directory>/plugin/desktop isn't good?
[03:53] <steven_> is your server suppose to be accessable from the internet ?
[03:53] <jrib> !synaptics | Papageno
[03:53] <elad`> How can I map my mouse's extra buttons to keyboard buttons such as backspace and enter?
[03:53] <n2diy> Ok, I'm running the current version of Xubuntu, will I have any issues doing a restore to my test box, which is running the current version of Ubuntu?
[03:54] <robertrankinjr> devD: could you rephrase, please?
[03:54] <gaddzilla> @lwells: run uname -a and see what it says.
[03:54] <jrib> elad`: xbindkeys together with xvkbd would be one way.  imwheel another
[03:54] <steven_> also does your router say it needed to reboot?
[03:54] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: what do you mean by accessbile from the internet?
[03:54] <elad`> jrib, which way is better/easier?
[03:54] <theoryx> fosa: no because you want to link libjavaplugin.so in the firefox directory
[03:55] <lwells> Linux acer 2.6.28-13-generic #44-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 2 07:57:31 UTC 2009 i686 GNU/Linux
[03:55] <steven_> like it the server something from home ? that is accessbile from the outside world?
[03:55] <milo_> theoryx: after having installed it, how do I switch?
[03:55] <jrib> elad`: imwheel lets you configure different bindings for different windows, they're both equal in difficulty
[03:55] <lwells> gaddzilla, what does that tell me?
[03:55] <steven_> I was gonna see if I can access it form here with your permission then I could get more of an idea of whats going on
[03:55] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: the server is a private cloud based virtual private server, not behind a router i believe - it should be accessible to the internet, because i have apache and nginx running on it to serve a web page
[03:56] <gaddzilla> @lwells that's the 32-bit version
[03:56] <FrozenFire> Hi. I'm at a LUG right now, and the person who usually brings our projector is absent. Is there a quick way to set up a network-streaming screencast?
[03:56] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: also, my home computer is accessible to the internet, through a cable modem behind a router
[03:56] <theoryx> milo_ , I'm not sure there is an option to easily switch between the two languages. My guess is you will have to remove the one you're not using.
[03:56] <steven_> ok can I see if I can access that server from here?
[03:56] <lwells> Can I upgrade to 64-bit without having to reinstall?
[03:56] <FrozenFire> I've tried various tutorials using ffmpeg, but they fail.
[03:56] <ctmjr> milo_:  if i remember right it is Within OpenOffice go to Tools>Options, then Language Settings>Language, and you should be able to change the language there (providing it's installed).
[03:56] <Rug> jrib: any NEW profile I create works the first time, but as soon as I re-launch it it's offline again
[03:56] <gaddzilla> @lwells: no, you'll have to do a complete reinstall
[03:56] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: isn't that dangerous?
[03:57] <milo_> thanks guys I'll try it
[03:57] <dang-artman> milo: you need to change the language of the OS first
[03:57] <steven_> or at least see if I can see the webpage and that might give me an idea of weither the connection is being blocked period
[03:57] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: can't you port scan it yourself?
[03:57] <lwells> dang gaddzilla, spent like 2 days setting up everything
[03:57] <devD> robertrankinjr, Actually I want to download a DVD for ubuntu with various packages, like fedora DVD. I downloaded Ubuntu 9.04 cd which dont have much packages. I need to download all manually.
[03:57] <steven_> well if you let jsut any do it but I am asking for permission thats why
[03:57] <n2diy> milo_, I missed your question, what are you trying to switch?
[03:57] <WIGGMPk> I am having an issue in Jaunty amd64, I upgraded to kernel 2.6.28-13 (I am now back in 2.6.28-11) and Jockey is not detecting my nvidia drivers (that are currently installed and working nvidia-glx-180)
[03:57] <ctmjr> dang-artman: no you do not
[03:58] <dang-artman> OK!
[03:58] <gaddzilla> @lwells: well, as a last resort, there are some server packages you can install in ubuntu to enable PAE (physical address extension) and that will allow you to use the whole 4 gigs (assuming it's not a hardware issue)
[03:58] <Flannel> devD: There is an Ubuntu DVD, yes.  Or even the alternate CD has extra packages on it.
[03:58] <robertrankinjr> Frozenfire: don't know how fast it is, but check out http://www.videolan.org/vlc/streaming.html
[03:58] <milo_> n2dij: switch from english to french in open office
[03:58] <yome> How does one figure out which version of nvidia-glx he has installed?
[03:58] <lwells> How can I run a hardware test gaddzilla
[03:58] <Titan8990> yome, check synaptic
[03:58] <Rug> jrib: Any other suggestions?
[03:59] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: i can't give you ssh access, but i can pm you the ip address
[03:59] <Titan8990> yome, or glxinfo might tell you
[03:59] <jrib> yome: aptitude search '~i~nnvidia-glx'  ?
[03:59] <devD> Flannel, But I could not see the DVD in Ubuntu official site.
[03:59] <FloridaGuy> does ubuntu have any tools that monitors the harddrive..that lets you know when something is wrong with the drive
[03:59] <gaddzilla> @lwells restart your computer and when you see the GRUB loading message (assuming you're using GRUB and not LILO) press `esc` and boot into the memtest86 option
[03:59] <ectospasm> yome: you can use "aptitude search nvidia-glx | grep '^i'"
[03:59] <steven_> ip address is what I was asking for
[03:59] <jrib> Rug: nope, don't know
[03:59] <steven_> lol
[03:59] <Flannel> devD: http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/releases/8.04/release/ for instance
[03:59] <dang-artman> well, the app has to be switched, then the dictionary.. sounds like two different things you gotta do to me
[03:59] <Rug> jrib: ok thanks anyway
[03:59] <CoJaBo-Aztec> FloridaGuy: Theres smartmontools i think
[03:59] <lwells> ok thanks I will try that
[03:59] <sedontane> how do i view a list of input devices on linux
[03:59] <Rug> sedontane: on USB?
[03:59] <robertrankinjr> devD, like FrozenFire said there is a DVD. You can find all the servers here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/downloadmirrors#dvd
[04:00] <lwells> bye for now
[04:00] <fosa> theoryx, when i run ./jre-6<version>-linux-x64.bin it extracts a bunch of files and directories but the plugin direcotry doesn't contain an i386 folder
[04:00]  * devD checking link given by Flannel .
[04:00] <n2diy> milo_, go to prefrences keyboard, and the layout you want, close that, and then right click on your task bar, select add/remove, then keybord switcher.
[04:00] <Titan8990> FloridaGuy, called SMART
[04:00] <Flannel> devD: Unless you have no access to the internet, the DVD is likely not what you're looking for.  Since you download 4.7G of packages, that are generally outdated by the time you get them (and you won't use all 4.7G of them anyway).  So you'll end up downloading less usually with just a regular install
[04:00] <gaddzilla> @floridaguy: cojabo is correct, smartmon tools is excellent. it will even show you the status of individual drives in a raid array (even on a hardware raid card!)
[04:00] <Titan8990> FloridaGuy, BIOS has to support it, tools are called smartmon
[04:00] <mib_x6iuiqx6> steven_: did you get pm?
[04:00] <yome> i   nvidia-glx-new - NVIDIA binary XFree86 4.x/X.Org 'new' driver
[04:01] <yome> Is there an extra version number somewhere?
[04:01] <devD> Flannel, yes you are right.
[04:01] <FloridaGuy> my bios suports smart
[04:01] <jrib> yome: what version of ubunt are you using?
[04:01] <milo_> n2dij: thanks
[04:01] <mezquitale> anyone knows how to retrieve your password on freenode or how to change it??  I forgot my password
[04:01] <jrib> yome: apt-cache policy nvidia-glx-new  will give you the package version
[04:01] <jrib> mezquitale: #freenode
[04:01] <gaddzilla> @FloridaGuy: sudo apt-get install smartmontools and once complete, sudo smartctl -a /dev/sda1
[04:01] <FloridaGuy> gota reboot just installed nvidia.......just came from fedora 11...dident like it
[04:01] <yome> Thanks!
[04:01] <raylu> mezquitale: try #freenode
[04:02] <n2diy> milo_, it's n2diy, thanks.
[04:02] <milo_> n2dij: and i should have have it on top of the desktop, right?
[04:02] <mezquitale> jrib, raylu, thanks
[04:02] <n2diy> milo_, it's n2diy, thanks.
[04:03] <gaddzilla> ^ that's a whole lot of join
[04:05] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: so no ideas huh? thanks anyway
[04:05] <felixsulla> Can you use VNC to control a Mac from Ubuntu? Is there a way to make it safe?
[04:06] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: not really, did you end up trying 2222?
[04:06] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: i tried switching port back to 22, and it worked; whenever i change port, it doesn't work
[04:06] <chris__> hi
[04:06] <paulo> i have question
[04:06] <chris__> I CANT DOWNLOAD I TUNES WHY NOT
[04:06] <gaddzilla> @felixsulla: yes, and yes. there are vnc servers for mac, windows, and linux. you can tunnel vnc through ssh to make it secure. there are lots of tutorials on google that will teach you how to do it
[04:07] <jrib> chris__: itunes does not have a linux version
[04:07] <Rug> chris__: don't yell.
[04:07] <chris__> SO B.C OF LINUX I CANT DOWNLOAD IT
[04:07] <gaddzilla> chris__ please don't yell at me :(
[04:07] <paulo> if i copy xp system folder in wine will it fix most incompatibility problems
[04:07] <chris__> NOT YELLIN M=I HAVE POOR EYESIGHT
[04:07] <Rug> obvious troll is obvious
[04:07] <n2diy> jrib, 2222? The first fire company I belonged to was station 222, and our first due engine was 2222! I know, OT.
[04:07] <robertrankinjr> felixsulla: http://macapper.com/2007/03/19/vnc-remote-desktop-for-free/
[04:08] <elad`> jrib, I can't figure out what to put in my imwheelrc. I can't guess the syntax. ".*" means "all programs", I understand, but what does "None, Up, Alt_L|Left" mean? Where does it say "this is for button 6"?
[04:08] <gaddzilla> @Rug: indeed!
[04:08] <HackTheCracker> #hackthissite
[04:08] <chris__> SO WHAT  DO I NEED TO DOWNLOAD ITUNES
[04:08] <CoJaBo-Aztec> chris__: There are plenty of itunes replacements. Try Google.
[04:08] <Rug> better eyes
[04:08] <HackTheCracker> #ubuntu
[04:08] <HackTheCracker> exit
[04:08] <HackTheCracker> quit
[04:08] <chris__> ANYTHING SPECAIL I SHOULD LOOK 4
[04:08] <mezquitale> CHRIS I SUGGEST CHANGING THE RESOLUTION ON YOUR MONITOR
[04:08] <Flannel> !caps | chris__
[04:08] <theoryx> fosa: did you run this first ?
[04:08] <theoryx> ln -s <JRE>/plugin/i386/<ns7 | ns7-gcc29>/libjavaplugin_oji.so
[04:09] <wubrgamer> how do I make the openoffice.org quickstarter run?
[04:09] <chris__> ok look how can i download fuckin itunes on this dell lol
[04:09] <wubrgamer> how do I make the openoffice.org quickstarter run and keep running? I would like to make it run when I log into GNOME
[04:09] <robertrankinjr> chris__, go to system -> preferences -> appearance and change the font size if you can read it
[04:09] <mezquitale> chris__,  youre using ubuntu???
[04:09] <Flannel> chris__: Watch your language.
[04:09] <DigitalKiwi> !language | chris__
[04:09] <chris__> its on my dell
[04:09] <wubrgamer> chris__: itunes is windows/mac-only software, you can futz emulation with a software with "wine"
[04:09] <Flannel> !attitude | chris__
[04:10] <chris__> ok lets say i dont do computers easiest way
[04:10] <DigitalKiwi> I was under the impression it didn't work at all in wine :/
[04:10] <jrib> elad`: I don't have an example handy
[04:10] <CoJaBo-Aztec> I have not had much luck with Wine.
[04:10] <mezquitale> chris__,  try Banshee
[04:10] <wubrgamer> chris__: are you running windows XP or Vista? Or are you running ubuntu?
[04:10] <chris__> vista with ubuntu
[04:10] <wubrgamer> mezquitale: you haven't figured out what OS he is running
[04:10] <wubrgamer> chris__: how aer you running vista WITH ubuntu? are you virtualizing an OS? or dual-booting?
[04:10] <theoryx> fosa: you need to create the directory before extracting the files.
[04:10] <Hink_> has anyone been able to install pleas control paenl in 8.10
[04:10] <FloridaGuy> cant beleave how much of a difference a new harddrive make in speed...after old drive took a crap
[04:11] <Hink_> *Plesk
[04:11] <chris__> ok i dont speak tech i am 45 anddont know why i cant download this
[04:11] <theoryx> I'm out. Bye you all.
[04:11] <mezquitale> chris__,  erase vista from your hard drive then install banshee
[04:11] <goose> chris__, we can't much help you if you can't give us more details
[04:11] <goose> mezquitale++
[04:11] <chris__> well tys
[04:11] <Hink_> I'm trying to install Plesk in Ubuntu 8.10
[04:12] <Hink_> Plesk Control Panel only has a package for 8.04 and lower
[04:12] <Hink_> it says it can't install because im on 8.1
[04:13] <WIGGMPk> Why wont jockey-gtk (Hardware Drivers) show the currently used nvidia-glx-180 driver???
[04:13] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: oh wait - could it be that i didn't specify AllowUsers <User>
[04:13] <Gillagal> when I logout of my x-session, I see an error box pop-up but don't catch it fast enough. Hoe can I see what it is?
[04:13] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: but then why would port 22 work?
[04:14] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: not sure, because it is default?
[04:14] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: do you have to add the AllowUsers parameter in sshd_config?
[04:14] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: all users except root should be allowed on ubuntu, but I don't have any better suggestions, so you might as well try
[04:15] <mib_x6iuiqx6> jrib: also, i don't have sshd, i just have ssh, i.e. /etc/init.d/ssh
[04:15] <jrib> mib_x6iuiqx6: right, that's normal
[04:15] <n2diy> Gillagal: if it goes away, you don't have to worry about it, the system took care of it.
[04:16] <tannersummers_> Guys whats a good c++ compliar for ubuntu?
[04:16] <jrib> tannersummers_: g++
[04:16] <tannersummers_> ty
[04:16] <jrib> !compile > tannersummers_
[04:17] <Gillagal> n2diy right, but it has a check box not to show it again. I'd like to check it off but can't mouse over to it in time.
[04:17] <Nate_> hello
[04:17] <Nate_> was wondering if someone could help me with something
[04:17] <Nate_> I've just loaded up linux onto my machine
[04:17] <Nate_> and I've tried to surf the web with it
[04:17] <Nate_> but each time I try, it kicks me out to a login screen
[04:17] <FloodBot2> Nate_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[04:17] <Nate_> I can't seem to figure out why
[04:17] <n2diy> jrib, why the private message, I would have liked to see that answer?
[04:18] <Nate_> ouch
[04:18] <Nate_> I lagged big time
[04:18] <mezquitale> LoL
[04:18] <mib_x6iuiqx6> lol
[04:18] <Nate_> I was going to ask
[04:18] <Nate_> I
[04:19] <mezquitale> Nate_,  youre able to log in?  and then try to surf the net with which browser?
[04:19] <lvlefisto> How do i set proxy settings for Empathy?
[04:19] <mib_x6iuiqx6> stop asking multiline Nate, you're going to get banned by the bot
[04:19] <n2diy> Gillagal: understood, umm, you need to practice sniping with your mouse? :)
[04:19] <dang-artman> wow Nate: never heard that one
[04:19] <Nate_> Firefox will start to load, then it'll quit out to the Ubuntu Login screen
[04:19] <Nate_> It does pretty much the same thing with Epiphany
[04:19] <HackTheCracker> #lecture
[04:20] <dang-artman> Nate: was this a good known working machine with another OS on it?
[04:20] <Nate_> yes, it used to have Windows XP on it
[04:20] <mezquitale> Nate_, sounds likle a pretty bad bug, I think it must be something with your hardware, what version of ubuntu are you using?
[04:20] <Nate_> 9.04
[04:20] <dang-artman> yeah, hardware or bad install disc.. major memory corruption somewhere..
[04:21] <dang-artman> bad RAM or hard drive sectors
[04:21] <bastidrazor> Ubuntu 9.04 . in .xsession-errors i get this :: I/O warning : failed to load external entity "/home/razor/.compiz/session/103ea21b2b2e3f1b9a12453794948604000000031740024"  the long string changes every restart of X/GDM. it does affect compiz.
[04:21] <Nate_> It's a brand new hard drive, 500 gig
[04:21] <mezquitale> I've had ***serious**** issues with 9.04(jaunty), it crashes my desktop  B A D L Y, 8.10 worked like a charm though, firefox crashes in 8.04 as well
[04:22] <Nate_> So you think I should download 8.10?
[04:22] <n2diy> Nate_: brand new = new, untested.
[04:22] <dang-artman> Nate: it's not common, but a new drive can have bad sectors
[04:22] <ctmjr> Nate_: try to start firefox in a terminal see if you get an error msg before the crash
[04:22] <dang-artman> No
[04:22] <Nate_> ok
[04:22] <mezquitale> Nate_,  I suggest you create another partition, around 10 gigs, then install 8.10 on that one partition and see if 8.10 works on your system
[04:23] <fai> hi there
[04:23] <nathan726> Hi all
[04:23] <Nate_> I can't get the terminal to do anything before it resets
[04:24] <dang-artman> I always try to run Spinrite on new drives
[04:24] <mezquitale> Nate_,  I have a 500 gig hard drive as well, first I installed 8.04 then installed 9.04 on my desktop, firefox crashed on both, sometimes it worked on 8.04,  9.04 works just fine on the laptop I just bought today
[04:24] <Nate_> So what would you suggest about which version to run
[04:24] <msl> Nate_, You might try outputting the stdout and stderr to a file to see what is happening
[04:24] <mezquitale> Nate_,  do you have an nvidia video card?
[04:24] <msl> Nate_,   firefox  2>&1  >> firefox.out
[04:25] <mezquitale> Nate_,  try what msl just suggested
[04:25] <Nate_> how do i do that
[04:25] <Nate_> i do not have an nvidia card
[04:25] <msl> Nate_, Enter the command in a terminal
[04:26] <mezquitale> Nate_, are you using the machine that has the problem?
[04:26] <Nate_> no
[04:26] <Nate_> this is not on that computer
[04:26] <Nate_> but it is in front of me
[04:26] <mezquitale> Nate_, so turn on the machine that has the problem, then start a terminal and in the terminal type in what msl suggested
[04:26] <Nate_> what do i type exactly
[04:27] <wubrgamer> openoffice.org QUICK START? HOW DO I DO IT?
[04:27] <msl> Nate_,   firefox  2>&1  >> firefox.out
[04:27] <n2diy> wubrgamer: stop yelling is a good start?
[04:28] <wubrgamer> n2diy: I've asked several times
[04:28] <Nate_> ok it did the reset thing again
[04:28] <n2diy> wubrgamer: so what?
[04:28] <wubrgamer> i've been scolded for my manners, my manner of speech, and this chan is sooooooo unresponsive it's painful
[04:28] <family_> hi all
[04:28] <robertrankinjr> Wubrgamer: edit -> preferences -> memory -> enable quicstart. And Next time, be nice, no matter how many times you ask. No one here as any obligation to recognize your existance
[04:28] <wubrgamer> i've actually done more helping than receiving help
[04:28] <Nate_> i would be nice, they do this for free
[04:28] <mezquitale> msl, ok so what should Nate_ try now?? :)
[04:28] <family_> wher's french chatroom
[04:29] <Alex_> wub, I haven't been paying attention, what's your problem? I may be able to help.
[04:29] <robertrankinjr> and I mean tools -> options, not edit -> preferences
[04:29] <jrib> wubrgamer: so your solution is to become annoying to persuade people to magically attain knowledge they do not have so that they can help you?
[04:29] <wubrgamer> robertrankinjr: thank you, and I realize that. But the thing is just because we're volunteers doesn't mean we can just ignore people like that...
[04:29] <Flannel> wubrgamer: No one's ignoring you.  But doyou really want 1300 people telling you they don't know?
[04:29] <nathan726> wubrgamer try http://ooqstart.sourceforge.net/
[04:29] <fait> ok i have this question that is indirectly related to ubuntu: i have a skype wifi phone because usb phones wont work on ubuntu. now does anyone know why the thing keeps shutting off when i turn it on? i've used it for a while and suddenly it stopped working.
[04:29] <robertrankinjr> wubr: and just because we're ignored doesn't mean we treat people like that ;)
[04:29] <wubrgamer> jrib: I know, I know, but seriously, if I wasn't a seasoned ubuntu user of several years, I would be SOO annoyed with it I would just forget ubuntu and try something else
[04:29] <msl> Nate_, Now check the firefox.out file to see if you have any clues.
[04:29] <Alex_> wub, I haven't been paying attention, what's your problem? I may be able to help.
[04:29] <family_> so my english is poor and I neek help
[04:29] <Nate_> where do i find that
[04:30] <wubrgamer> anyway, thank you guys
[04:30] <family_> hééé hooo
[04:30] <Nate_> it is blank
[04:30] <ctmjr> !fr
[04:30] <msl> It should be in the directory the command was run.  If you had just opened the terminal, I would expect that it is the home directory.
[04:30] <family_> yes
[04:30] <soul> anyone here running an ibook?
[04:30] <msl> Nate_,  :(
[04:30] <Nate_> lol
[04:30] <Nate_> yeah this bites
[04:30] <wubrgamer> soul: not really, PPC isn't ubuntu's strong point, try fedora IMHO
[04:31] <Nate_> i can say i had to mess with the install to even get it to go
[04:31] <wubrgamer> or try debian soul
[04:31] <sagaci> what would be the easiest way to convert all my mp3 music to ogg
[04:31] <ectospasm> sagaci: write a script to do it.
[04:31] <Nate_> i had to setup the /boot first
[04:31] <family_> ubuntu.fr
[04:31] <n2diy> sagaci: audacity?
[04:31] <sagaci> ectospasm: would ogg be a suitable free format?
[04:31] <msl> Nate_, If you check the bottom of the /var/log/messages file, do you have any relevant messages?
[04:31] <ctmjr> !fr|family_:
[04:32] <ectospasm> n2diy: audacity doesn't do mp3, last I checked.
[04:32] <soul> I did try fedora, I don't like it like I do ubuntu and debian. With Ubuntu I always have to call for nosplash, but still get no 3d
[04:32] <mezquitale> Nate_, sounds like ubuntu didnt like your hardware, I suggest you try 8.10, just create another partition using GParted and install everything just for kicks
[04:32] <family_> can you give me link for room fr
[04:32] <russe11> My sound just quit working (can't hear what's supposed to play at all, only some static) today on Ubuntu jaunty, any ideas how to troubleshoot
[04:32] <n2diy> ectospasm: roger that, that is why I used the ?
[04:32] <ectospasm> family_: /join #ubuntu-fr
[04:33] <family_> thanks
[04:33] <Nate_> yeah sounds like an idea mezquitale
[04:33] <Nate_> this is a real old computer
[04:33] <mezquitale> russe11, try #alsa maybe they can help you more
[04:33] <Nate_> it's like an athlon xp 1800+
[04:33] <russe11> mezquitale,  Should I be using also or pulseaudio?
[04:33] <manolo> que es esto?
[04:33] <mezquitale> russe11,  most people use alsa
[04:34] <ectospasm> mezquitale: uh, no
[04:34] <russe11> mezquitale, I was under the impression pulseaudio was default in Jaunty?
[04:34] <musikgoat|main> mezquitale: isnt pulseaudio a front end to alsa?
[04:34] <ectospasm> pulseaudio IS the default in Intrepid and Jaunty
[04:34] <mezquitale> russe11, I do not know, I just installed jaunty on my laptop and it actually works
[04:34] <ectospasm> pulseaudio is a sound server
[04:34] <Nate_> i was thinking mezquitale, what if I ran the live cd to see if it does the same thing
[04:35] <russe11> Yeah, the problem is everything was working great from when Jaunty was released (and before) until now, and now sound quit. I can't think what I would have done to break it.
[04:35] <ectospasm> russe11: have you checked your mixer levels, make sure they're not turned all the way down or muted...
[04:36] <mezquitale> Nate_,  excellent idea!  I think you might have better luck with the live CD because ubuntu wont be touching your hard drive
[04:36] <ectospasm> russe11: also, make sure pulseaudio is running.
[04:36] <russe11> ectospasm, I have, and I think I'd be hearing nothing rather than static if they were all the way down.
[04:36] <russe11> ectospasm, I also restarted a couple of times.
[04:37] <ectospasm> russe11: if you turn them down via software, do your speakers still produce static?
[04:37] <mezquitale> russe11, let me see the output of this:  cat /proc/asound/cards
[04:37] <russe11> mezquitale,  0 [Intel          ]: HDA-Intel - HDA Intel
[04:37] <russe11>                       HDA Intel at 0xfebf8000 irq 22
[04:37] <robertrankinjr> mezquitale, are you having issues with corruption, you said?
[04:37] <ectospasm> russe11: try stopping pulseaudio
[04:38] <russe11> ectospasm, I get no static with volume muted/turned down in software
[04:38] <mezquitale> robertrankinjr, i have a  HORRIBLE experience in my desktop with jaunty, i gave up, im using my laptop right now, jaunty is too unstable
[04:38] <russe11> ectospasm, what's the best way to stop pulseaudio?
[04:38] <mezquitale> russell now try this and tell me what you hear:  speaker-test -c2 -D default -t wav
[04:39] <russe11> mezquitale, Static. From various speakers ;)
[04:39] <ectospasm> russe11: you can try sudo /etc/init.d/pulseaudio stop, or just use ps to determine which PID is pulseaudio, and kill -9 <PID>
[04:39] <robertrankinjr> mezuitale, are you 64bit or 32bit?
[04:39] <russe11> ectospasm, pulseaudio stop gives  * PulseAudio configured for per-user sessions
[04:39] <robertrankinjr> just wondering, 'cause I had the same issue. formatted like ten times in a week trying to fix it... but there's an ongoing bug about it
[04:40] <Nate_> I does the same thing from the live cd mez
[04:40] <ectospasm> russe11: so kill it from your user (not root)
[04:40] <mezquitale> speaker-test -c2 -D default -t wav
[04:40] <ectospasm> russe11: ps -ef | grep pulseaudio
[04:40] <mezquitale> russe11, copy and paste that to a terminal
[04:40] <Nate_> it tries to load up a weird page like \\chrome
[04:40] <ectospasm> mezquitale: he apparently already did that
[04:40] <russe11> ectospasm, okay, killed pulse
[04:41] <ectospasm> russe11: still hearing static?
[04:41] <russe11> Still getting static
[04:41] <Nate_> it says chrome:// something
[04:41] <abe_> join #asterisk-dev
[04:41] <robertrankinjr> mezquitale: are you running 64bit or 32bit? just wondering because there's an issue with 64bit jaunty on the current kernel... could work perfectly in jaunty with a kernel change
[04:41] <mezquitale> ectospasm,  i had the same problem before, turns out I misstyped and wasn't playing the default sound
[04:41] <russe11> mezquitale, the latest terminal command gives static, though not as much possibly?
[04:41] <ectospasm> russe11: try unloading the snd_hda module (sudo modprobe -r snd_hda) <- not sure if snd_hda is the name of your module...
[04:41] <hmw> Can I add text to the apache error log without the formatted time at the beginning? Could  that trigger problems somewhere else in the system?
[04:42] <abcminiuser> Anyone know what the new backports updates are all about?
[04:42] <mezquitale> robertrankinjr,  thank you very much, yes---i have a 64 bit AMD machine however I downloaded the 32 bit distribution, what do you suggest I do?
[04:42] <russe11> ectospasm, Looks like that's not it, what's the best way to determine what the name of my module is?
[04:42] <abcminiuser> Or why it wants to install the 28 kernel, even though I already have it?
[04:42] <ectospasm> russe11: I don't know.
[04:42] <ctmjr> ectospasm: did you have him/her try alsa force-reload?
[04:43] <russe11> ectospasm, k, googling
[04:43] <mezquitale> russe11, you want to go to the #alsa room and pray someone is there, if anyone can help you is the guys in #alsa
[04:43] <ectospasm> ctmjr: nope
[04:43] <ectospasm> ctmjr: so direct your comment at russe11
[04:43] <russe11> mezquitale, Okay, I'll give it a shot.
[04:43] <robertrankinjr> mezquitale: could be this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/346691?comments=all
[04:43] <mezquitale> russe11, is it a USB sound card?? do you have more than one sound card?
[04:43] <russe11> mezquitale, This is built-in sound on my intel chipset Asus motherboard.
[04:44] <robertrankinjr> to fix it you just run: $ wget http://kernel.ubuntu.com/~kernel-ppa/mainline/v2.6.29.4/linux-image-2.6.29-02062904-generic_2.6.29-02062904_amd64.deb
[04:44] <robertrankinjr> $ sudo dpkg -i linux-image-2.6.29-02062904-generic_2.6.29-02062904_amd64.deb
[04:44] <robertrankinjr> and then install the headers if you want to enable certain modules
[04:44] <mezquitale> russe11, someone in #alsa can help you out with that one, sorry, im not a guru
[04:44] <Nate_> Mezquitale, it sounds like a graphics card problem related to 9.04 is my issue
[04:44] <russe11> mezquitale, I understand, thanks for trying.
[04:44] <Nate_> when running webpages
[04:44] <The_Warlock> my monitors resolution was not being detected when i upgraded from 8.10 to 9.04
[04:44] <The_Warlock> whats teh lastest version of 9.04?
[04:45] <Nate_> i'm going to give 8.10 a shot
[04:45] <mezquitale> Nate_,  if it's the graphics card then that's an easy one, you can just use vga drivers, that one always works
[04:45] <n8tuser> is clearing the history been an issue on Firefox 3.0.10 ? I cant seem to clear mine
[04:45] <The_Warlock> can anybody tell me how to fix it?
[04:45] <mezquitale> Nate_, download 8.10 and try the CD first, see if it works
[04:46] <mezquitale> robertrankinjr, what do you suggest I do??? use 8.10??  I tried 8.04 and it's crashing firefox, i used to have 8.10 but that one didnt have rt kernel however that one worked like a charm
[04:46] <robertrankinjr> what are you on right now?
[04:47] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, can you change the resolution through "Screen Resolution"???
[04:48] <w0jrl> hello all
[04:48] <The_Warlock> mezquitale: i dont find my monitors native resolution listed
[04:48] <mezquitale> robertrankinjr, im on my laptop using 9.04, it works fine on my lappie
[04:48] <robertrankinjr> Oh, it's a different computer
[04:48] <robertrankinjr> well I'd just suggest doing the kernel upgrade, if it's the same issue. read over the first part of the bug report, check if it matches up
[04:49] <robertrankinjr> From 9.04, that is
[04:49] <msl> Hello w0jrl
[04:49] <eigma> is it possible to fetch only certain packages from a PPA? (for example, I want open-vm-tools but not gcc)
[04:49] <Gillagal> when I logout of my x-session, I see an error box pop-up but don't catch it fast enough. How can I see what it is?
[04:49] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, the first thing you want to do is go through the web and find your monitor's specs, you want the vertical and horizontal range and maximum refresh rate
[04:50] <malathi> hi
[04:50] <w0jrl> hi
[04:50] <Nate_> great, 1 hour until it loads up
[04:50] <The_Warlock> HP LP2465 24" monitor
[04:50] <The_Warlock> teh native resolution is 1920x1200
[04:50] <The_Warlock> refresh rate 60Hz
[04:50] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, the next thing you want is the refresh rate
[04:51] <ziroday> !pinning > eigma
[04:51] <ctmjr> The_Warlock: what graphics card do you have?
[04:51] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, the next thing you need is the horizontal and vertical refresh rates ranges
[04:51] <eigma> ahaha I thanked ubottu :) thanks ziroday
[04:51] <Nate_> anyone try to work this with a voodoo5 5500?
[04:52] <ziroday> eigma: have fun :)
[04:52] <The_Warlock> ctmjr: which command do i run to see the model of teh graphics card?
[04:52] <davidjheinrich>  how do I find out what Ubuntu calls my various keyboard keys?
[04:52] <musikgoat|main> The_Warlock: lspci will tell you, usually
[04:52] <robertrankinjr> lspci | grep -i graphics
[04:52] <w0jrl> does anyone know of a good but cheep netbook that ubuntu will run on?
[04:53] <The_Warlock> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[04:53] <The_Warlock> 00:02.1 Display controller: Intel Corporation 82Q33 Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 02)
[04:53] <Titan8990> w0jrl, the dell netbooks sell with ubuntu pre-installed
[04:53] <mezquitale> w0jrl, go to propertyroom.com if you dont mind using used lappies, i got my DELL laptop for $150
[04:53] <w0jrl> thanks
[04:53] <Titan8990> mezquitale, netbook != laptop
[04:53] <w0jrl> rughly how much?
[04:54] <Titan8990> w0jrl, I believe the cheaper dell ones are $300 new
[04:54] <w0jrl> roughly how much?
[04:54] <oh_noes> is there a cli ppp program i can use to configure my USB 3g Wireless Modem?
[04:54] <zimbres> hi, how can I know when a file was deleted in log files?
[04:54] <mezquitale> w0jrl, the laptops in propertyroom.com are auctioned, i meant to say, i got mines for $250
[04:54] <oh_noes> A blog im reading says use 'gnome-ppp' but I dont have Gui
[04:54] <rsc___> anyone having problems connecting to Yahoo messenger using pidgin?
[04:54] <w0jrl> cool
[04:54] <robertrankinjr> rsc___: is a reported bug
[04:55] <musikgoat|main> rsc___: i did earlier today
[04:55] <msl> rsc___, Somebody mentioned in #ubuntu+1 they are having trouble connecting to Yahoo
[04:55] <robertrankinjr> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/pidgin/+bug/389278
[04:55] <n2diy> oh_noes: ppp, for wireless?
[04:55] <w0jrl> if you are interested, i just found one on newegg.com for 172
[04:56] <azfira> amilani
[04:56] <azfira> amilani
[04:56] <mezquitale> w0jrl, from my experience "new" machines means big trouble while trying to use ubuntu, I generally never buy new machines to use with linux
[04:57] <n2diy> w0jrl, qsl?
[04:57] <ctmjr> The_Warlock: run this in terminal  egrep "Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers" /var/log/Xorg.0.log i think there is a compatability issue with intel drivers and the new xserver in ubuntu 9.04
[04:57] <mezquitale> rsc___, pidgin works just fine while connecting to yahoo
[04:57] <Guest81581> hoho try installing linux-module-backports
[04:58] <n8tuser> is clearing the history been an issue on Firefox 3.0.10 ? I cant seem to clear my visited sites urls
[04:58] <The_Warlock> ctmjr: what does it do?
[04:58] <ctmjr> The_Warlock: it will show the driver being loaded
[04:59] <DigitalKiwi> does ubuntu use gpg signed packages?
[04:59] <lstarnes> DigitalKiwi: I think so
[04:59] <Guest81581> try installing linux-backports-modules from synaptics maybe it can help solve driver issues
[05:00] <korneliorogelio> can some one help me out? http://paste.ubuntu.com/198926/
[05:00] <BeatlesFan> hi
[05:00] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, are you using a 64 bit machine?
[05:00] <The_Warlock> mezquitale:  i686 GNU/Linux
[05:01] <The_Warlock> ctmjr: i am upgrading now...will have to wait a few minutes before i run thw command
[05:01] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, try linux-backports-modules
[05:01] <Guest81581> if your driver was working previously then i think this package should help
[05:02] <mezquitale> The_Warlock,  ok well I have a 64 bit machine however I installed jaunty 9.04 and it crashes intermitently however I was able to configure the resolution on my monitor
[05:03] <jimmy__> salut
[05:03] <The_Warlock> i am wondering if i need to mention the dpi settings in the xorg.cong?
[05:03] <Gillagal> any idea why my pc speaker beeps 3 times when shutting down Ubuntu?
[05:04] <maxagaz> this take too much of my CPU, i don't understand why, does someone has an idea ? :
[05:04] <maxagaz> root      5013 65.8  3.8  58604 39580 tty7     Ss+  09:08 115:00 /usr/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[05:04] <mezquitale> The_Warlock, you shouldnt need to touch your conf file, you have to work on the drivers first like everyone is suggesting
[05:04] <The_Warlock> mezquitale: ok
[05:05] <n2diy> When I run sbackup, are open files included?
[05:06] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, ummmmm try installing linux-modules-backports?
[05:07] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: i will...i need the upgrade top complete
[05:08] <Guest81581> i think linux-modules-backports lets you use backport drivers
[05:08] <Guest81581> stable drivers from an older version
[05:08] <Guest81581> i think
[05:08] <Guest81581> thats how i understand it
[05:08] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: ahh kool
[05:08] <Guest81581> hmmmm
[05:09] <The_Warlock> when r they gonna release the next update to 9.04?
[05:09] <hmw> Can I add text to the apache error log without the formatted time at the beginning? Could  that trigger problems somewhere else in the system?
[05:10] <susan_> ola
[05:10] <susan_> sera q alguien me puede alludar
[05:11] <felix_> hola
[05:11] <eviltux> susan_ ¿con qué?
[05:12] <susan_> osea tengo
[05:12] <susan_> instalo debian
[05:12] <Guest81581> ive seen many driver problems in the forums, from wifi driver issues to sound driver issues, and some seems to get fixed by installing linux-backports-modues
[05:12] <eviltux> susan_ ajá...
[05:12] <Guest81581> it seems like it is the core developers patch release for the drivers
[05:12] <susan_> pero los videos q terminan en extencion .DAT
[05:13] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: cool thanks...will try it once the upgrade is done. does it need a reboot?
[05:13] <Guest81581> well yes
[05:13] <eviltux> susan_ ajá.....
[05:13] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: k
[05:13] <Guest81581> it wont hurt to reboot right?
[05:13] <elad`> I've just installed moinmoin with apt-get. Now, some of the instruction about using it require me to know where it is. Just where is it located, though?
[05:13] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: i dont a reason why it shud
[05:13] <The_Warlock> :)
[05:13] <susan_> el reproductor del VLC no me los reproduse
[05:13] <Guest81581> XD
[05:14] <Guest81581> que hoy
[05:14] <susan_> eviltux estas hay
[05:14] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: also i am not able to have bold fonts for terminus if the font size is less than 10?
[05:14] <The_Warlock> any idea what need to be dopwn for it
[05:14] <The_Warlock> done*
[05:15] <mezquitale> elad, type whereis moinmoin
[05:15] <eviltux> susan_ si, intenta con MPlayer teclea en la terminal: apt-get install mplayer
[05:15] <setz> Hello!
[05:16] <mezquitale> susan_ | !spanish
[05:17] <elad`> mezquitale, that gives me the executable, but not anything else.
[05:17] <Guest81581> The_W
[05:17] <elad`> /usr/bin/moin has hardly anything. I can't really use it.
[05:17] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, you mean the xterminal?
[05:17] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: i mean terminus font..
[05:17] <susan_> y no importa si esta instalado el VLC
[05:18] <setz> Does anyone have experience using at?
[05:18] <piclez> hello
[05:18] <susan_> con ese mplayer
[05:18] <Guest81581> terminus fonts on the xterminal?
[05:18] <piclez> I'm having iptables-save - command not found, any ideas please?
[05:18] <durt> !es | susan_
[05:19] <Guest81581> piclez, try seperating iptables -save
[05:19] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: in any of the terminal emulators i use
[05:19] <n2diy> piclez: permissions?
[05:19] <mezquitale> elad, you have to be more specific in your question, "where" is it you have found out already, that is the application itself,  but what is it that you need in the directions youre reading?
[05:19] <hkvn> piclez, plz install iptable ;)
[05:19] <piclez> same error Guest81581
[05:19] <eviltux> susan_ no, no importa
[05:19] <piclez> n2diy: as root
[05:19] <Guest81581> so all these terminal run on top of xserver?
[05:19] <piclez> Ubuntu 8.04 TLS
[05:19] <Guest81581> yeah put a sudo
[05:19] <Guest81581> sudo iptables -save?
[05:20] <n2diy> piclez:, your root?
[05:20] <mezquitale> susan_,  vete a "add/remove" y busca "mp3" asegurate que tengas todos los archivos necesarios para reproducir multimedia en ubuntu
[05:20] <Guest81581> piclez, try "sudo iptables -save"
[05:20] <piclez> yea I'm root
[05:20] <Guest81581> piclez, try "sudo iptables -save"
[05:20] <piclez> I tried sudo no luck
[05:20] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: yes
[05:20] <Guest81581> hmmmmm
[05:20] <lstarnes> piclez: it's iptables-save (no space)
[05:21] <Guest81581> how about man iptables
[05:21] <n2diy> piclez:, who are you talking to?
[05:21] <piclez> no manual entry for iptables
[05:21] <piclez> not installed?
[05:21] <Guest81581> yep
[05:21] <piclez> oh :O how come
[05:21] <Guest81581> and try man iptables-save
[05:22] <piclez> no manual
[05:22] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: it does use xserver
[05:22] <Guest81581> not installed too
[05:22] <Guest81581> okay The_Warlock
[05:22] <Guest81581> lets see
[05:22] <piclez> should be installed by default
[05:22] <Guest81581> maybe terminus font does not support bold characters
[05:23] <Guest81581> try using terminus on word processing apps
[05:23] <The_Warlock> k
[05:23] <n2diy> What kind of issues can I expect, if I backup a Xubuntu box, and restore to a Ubuntu box?
[05:23] <Guest81581> my terminal is on liberation mono fonts and it doesnt get bold too
[05:23] <ts_> lkm
[05:23] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: i prefer urvrt as its light and fast too
[05:24] <The_Warlock> urxvt
[05:24] <ts_> hohoho
[05:26] <Tux2> Hmmm....  Alot of users here...
[05:26] <ts_> indoneisa here!
[05:26] <deepak> Hello, i have an INTERNET connection, and using it through LAN. Now i wish to use internet using wifi and ubuntu.
[05:27] <w0jrl> what kind of wyfi card do you have?
[05:27] <ts_> nahninu.com
[05:27] <deepak> i have problem with my wifi please tell me how to establish an wifi account which requires user name and password
[05:27] <Guest81581> deepak, where are you connecting?
[05:27] <Guest81581> there should be a wifi access point near you
[05:27] <deepak> India, Jaipur
[05:28] <deepak> yes i have wifi access point but not able to search that AP
[05:28] <InfoMoMo> Hey guys! Where would I copy an application if i want to run it? /usr/bin/, /bin/, /sbin/ ? Thanks in advance
[05:28] <w0jrl> if it is a broadcom card, you can use the b43-fwcutter package
[05:29] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: don't put it anywhere unless you want it to be system wide, just leave it in your home directory
[05:29] <deepak> Network controller: Broadcom Corporation BCM4318 [AirForce One 54g] 802.11g Wireless LAN Controller (rev 02)
[05:29] <deepak> yes it is broadcom card
[05:29] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: system wide yes, i would like to run it from anywhere
[05:29] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: it is a VOIP soft phone.
[05:29] <mezquitale> ectospasm,  if you want it to be system wide where would you put the software?
[05:29] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: so, put it in /home/user/bin and add that to your permanent PATH in .bashrc
[05:29] <w0jrl> so use the b43-fwcutter package
[05:29] <InfoMoMo> thnaks
[05:30] <deepak> where to get this package
[05:30] <w0jrl> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[05:30] <w0jrl> answer yes to all questions
[05:30] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: or, install it to /usr/local/bin
[05:30] <deepak> thanks w0jrl
[05:30] <w0jrl> sure bthing
[05:30] <kain> hi all, i was wondering why one day i was able to cycle through my opened windows in reverse by pressing "alt-shift-tab" and now i'm only able to do it in order from left to right?
[05:30] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: the install script should handle that part, though
[05:31] <w0jrl> glad to help
[05:31] <n2diy> What kind of issues can I expect, if I backup a Xubuntu box, and restore to a Ubuntu box?
[05:31] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: it does not install, just runs
[05:31] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: sounds like a poorly designed package, IMO
[05:31] <w0jrl> @n2diy not sure, i never did it
[05:31] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: what softphone is this?
[05:32] <n2diy> w0jrl, qsl?
[05:32] <kain> i really found it usefull to scroll through windows in reverse by pressing "alt-shift-tab", and now i'm not able to, especially when i have lots of windows open
[05:33] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: http://storage.counterpath.com/downloads/X-Lite_Install.tar.gz?platform=linux&product=xlite
[05:33] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: X-Lite
[05:33] <w0jrl> @n2diy i have never done that before, so i don't what will happen
[05:33] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: (II) Loading /usr/lib/xorg/modules/drivers//intel_drv.so
[05:33] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: thats what i get when i run egrep on the file you told me
[05:33] <n2diy> w0jrl, ok, so you aren't a ham radio operator?
[05:34] <Guest81581> it wasnt me
[05:34] <w0jrl> oh, sorry, yes i am
[05:34] <Guest81581> i told you to install linux-backports-modules
[05:34] <n2diy> w0jrl, qsl?
[05:34] <mrynit> on 7.04 my fan and brightness controls worked fine but in anything past that they stopped working correctly. how can find out what part of the newer kernel or other software caused this?
[05:34] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: its not finding any package by that name
[05:34] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: XLite didn't work for me the last time I tried it.  You may want to run it in place before you copy it to your system folders
[05:34] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: whats the exact name?
[05:35] <msl> n2diy, The only possible issue I can see would be GUI programs that have a different default configuration on XFCE.  I wouldn't expect that there would be many, if any.
[05:35] <w0jrl> @n2diy i am not with the q codes
[05:35] <w0jrl> good
[05:35] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: it usually works for me on my systems
[05:35] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: linux-backports-modules-intrepid-generic   ?
[05:35] <n2diy> w0jrl, roger roger
[05:36] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: IIRC X-lite is no longer being maintained, so good luck!
[05:36] <ectospasm> ...at least the Linux port isn't
[05:36] <w0jrl> @n2diy are you asking for a QSL card?
[05:36] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: IIRC ?
[05:36] <n2diy> msl: ok, thanks.
[05:36] <ectospasm> InfoMoMo: If I Remember Correctly
[05:36] <WIGGMPk> what happened to the indexing option from hardy... ??? I dont know where its at in Jaunty??
[05:36] <w0jrl> it isn't there
[05:37] <w0jrl> it looks like it was removed
[05:37] <WIGGMPk> what was it again... beagle?
[05:37] <Guest81581> the backports with the kernel version
[05:37] <n2diy> w0jrl, no, just confirmation that I picked out a ham on #ubuntu. And i'm currently portable, so you can't qsl me anyway..
[05:37] <gggg> pidgin is not working
[05:37] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: ok
[05:38] <petx> gggg, same on me...
[05:38] <w0jrl> @n2diy yes i am a ham
[05:38] <petx> pidgini not working any more
[05:38] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: sure is, v4 is coming out :D
[05:38] <gggg> after clicking pidgin , it is in the connecting state for infinite time..
[05:39] <gggg> petx, what's the problem with you?
[05:39] <InfoMoMo> ectospasm: and by the way, it is one of the softphones that works out of the box with sipxecs
[05:39] <n2diy> w0jrl, is that an old timers call, ar vanity?
[05:39] <gggg> petx, can you log in with pidgin  ?
[05:39] <petx> gggg, no
[05:39] <w0jrl> @n2diy vanity
[05:39] <gggg> petx, is it crashed?
[05:40] <gggg> petx, did you try reinstalling it?
[05:40] <petx> gggg, I dont know...
[05:40] <n2diy> w0jrl, when did you get it?
[05:40] <w0jrl> @n2diy i used to be kb3nty
[05:40] <petx> gggg, I havent reinstalling it yet...
[05:41] <gggg> petx, try reinstalling it ,see what happens
[05:41] <w0jrl> @n2diy it's been a while. i don't remember
[05:41] <n2diy> w0jrl, kb3 where were you in 3 land? I'm in Carbon Co. Pa.
[05:41] <riz0n> how can i do critical updates from the terminal line?
[05:42] <gggg> hello,what's the problem with pidgin,can't log in with pidgin
[05:42] <petx> gggg, my ext. hdd is borrowed... the repos are there...
[05:42] <w0jrl> @n2diy baltimore maryland
[05:42] <n2diy> w0jrl,RR
[05:42] <petx> capek deh... pidgin g bisa jalan... huhu..
[05:43] <n2diy> w0jrl, where are you now, Dayton?
[05:43] <gggg> petx, what do you mean?
[05:43] <gggg> petx, sudo apt-get remove pidgin,sudo apt-get install pidgin
[05:43] <w0jrl> @n2diy denver
[05:43] <riz0n> how can i do critical updates from the terminal line?
[05:44] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: i installed it and rebooted
[05:44] <petx> gggg, I've changed /etc/apt/sources.list to my ext. hdd...
[05:44] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: linux-backports-modules-2.6.28-11-generic
[05:44] <kain> does anyone know why "alt-shift-tab" doesn't work to switch windows backwords?
[05:44] <grendal_prime> i got a couple of werid thigns going on right now...one of wich is that my sound seems to be jammed up..i cant just shut the machien off as im doing a few important dowloads but i wanted to listen to some music...
[05:44] <petx> gggg, I dont know how to make it default...
[05:44] <The_Warlock> still i dont see my monitor original resolution
[05:44] <w0jrl> sudo apt-get update&&sudo apt-get upgrade
[05:45] <n2diy> w0jrl, wow, I missed, I was thinking of... 0 land I guess. Nice to meet yo, and hope to "see" you on the are during FD, 73.
[05:45] <grendal_prime> when i try and run rythim box i get Unknown playback error
[05:45] <grendal_prime> ??
[05:45] <lich0r> riz0n, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=11103
[05:45] <grendal_prime> if i try and play the sample sounds in the sound dialog box i get...audiotestsrc wave=sine freq=512 ! audioconvert ! audioresample ! gconfaudiosink profile=music: Could not open audio device for playback. Device is being used by another application.
[05:46] <grendal_prime> how can i see what processes are using the sound device
[05:46] <w0jrl> @n2diy if you have access to an IRLP node, you can reach me on node 3345
[05:46] <mezquitale> grendal_prime, did you install all the drivers?? including the ones to play mp3z?
[05:47] <n2diy> w0jrl, wow, that's cool, I m the sysop for 4867.
[05:48] <grendal_prime> mezquitale: yes dont get me wrong...the sound has always worked on this machine...its one of those things that has happened in the past...a reboot will fix it im sure..but like i say  i cant just reboot right now
[05:48] <w0jrl> @n2diy are you at your node?
[05:48] <chris__> anyone know how to download banshee on ubuntu?
[05:48] <elad`> How do I create a keyboard-combination for a program in gnome? Like, I want alt-Q to launch alltray. How do I do that?
[05:49] <w0jrl> @n2diy i am one of the sysopps for 3345
[05:49] <n2diy> w0jrl, no, it is 19 miles away. I can ssh into it, but I can't "hear" it it my current QTH.
[05:49] <SHADOW_V> hello i tried to install the newest nvidia driver and now it says failed to intialize the nvidia kernel module
[05:49] <w0jrl> @n2diy is it symplex?
[05:50] <grendal_prime> SHADOW_V:  PUT THE OTHER ONE BACK!
[05:50] <nomad77_> elad: google xbindkeys,its in repos afaik
[05:50] <n2diy> w0jrl, nope, 147.345+ 131.8
[05:50] <grendal_prime> thats my knee jerk reactionary advice though
[05:50] <SHADOW_V> grendal_prime, but i wanted to upgrade to the newest driver
[05:51] <grendal_prime> sounds like you did...hows that working for ya?
[05:51] <bullgard4> n2diy: 73 de dl4ft
[05:51] <sagaci> is there any real difference between using the commandline dpkg compared to using a GUI tool such as GDebi or archive manager?
[05:51] <chris__> anybody have a link to click on for banshee for ubuntu?
[05:51] <SHADOW_V> grendal_prime, the setup said that it was succefully completed
[05:51] <mezquitale> SHADOW_V, can you log in to your machine with GUI?
[05:51] <petx> I need default /etc/apt/sources.list... any clue...??
[05:51] <sagaci> chris__: to install?
[05:51] <w0jrl> @n2diy hmmmmmm, you can't hit it? what HT do you have?
[05:51] <n2diy> bullgard4: RR
[05:51] <SHADOW_V> it wants to boot into low graphics mode
[05:52] <goose> chris__, sudo apt-get install banshee
[05:52] <elad`> How is it that I am able to rename the directory an mp3 resides in, while some other program plays that mp3?
[05:52] <goose> elad`, not possible, I think. as the programs would lock the dir/file from changes until it was done being used
[05:53] <n2diy> w0jrl, at the moment, only a dummy load, but I should have a decent random wire up soon, if it ever stops raining here.
[05:53] <mezquitale> SHADOW_V,  first back up your /etc/X11/xorg.conf  file then edit and place a "#" in the lines that start with "Driver" and "option" under the section "Device" , save the file then hit control-backspace
[05:53] <w0jrl> @n2diy cool!
[05:53] <elad`> goose, but it worked!
[05:53] <kain> does anyone have a solution for the "alt-shift-tab" not working?
[05:53] <mezquitale> elad, because ubuntu has it like that
[05:54] <elad`> kain, it could be beryl.
[05:54] <elad`> kain, have you got effects enabled in Appearance?
[05:54] <bullgard4> kain: A solution is described in the Jaunty release notes.
[05:54] <Hydrant> can you dual boot windows with GRUB if it's on a second hard disk (i.e. not master) ?
[05:54] <mezquitale> Hydrant, yes you can!
[05:55] <kain> elad`: i have "normal" effects
[05:55] <mezquitale> Hydrant, you have to install windows first though then install linux on which ever drive you desire
[05:55] <Hydrant> k thanks..
[05:55] <Hydrant> I was just going to make an old drive a master drive for a bit, install windows, let it screw up the MBR.... then put in my normal ubuntu drive again
[05:55] <elad`> kain, try turning them off and on?
[05:56] <elad`> How do I create a keyboard-combination for a program in gnome? Like, I want alt-Q to launch alltray. How do I do that?
[05:56] <kain> elad`: go in keyboard shortcut and add a shortcut
[05:57] <n2diy> bullgard4: where are you OM?
[05:57] <msl> elad, System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts
[05:57] <yowshi> anyone know how to unmount something in the /dev folder? stupid dosbox wont let go of the stupid usb joystick. i need a way to get the device/module freed up without rebooting
[05:58] <nomad77_> ignore #xkcd-signal joins,parts,crap
[05:58] <msl> yowshi, Can you kill dosbox to free the drive?
[05:58] <Natthu> hi .. I am a jaunty user .. I have atheros 242 series wifi card.... I was earlier using the open source drivers and the network manager showed up the device .... I wanted to create an ad-hoc network with master setting on the card ( following a blog ) ... so I enabled the proprietary drivers and rebooted. But since then the networkmanager doesn't show any wifi interface ... I tried disabling the drivers and rebooting ... no use ... ifconfig doesn't show the adep
[05:58] <yowshi> msl: no it's gone defunct/unkillable
[05:59] <msl> yowshi, Might want to check to see what processes are holding it open:   fuser -m /dev/sdX#
[05:59] <kain> bullgard4: i looked at the release notes and haven't found any solution, it talks about "ctrl-alt-backspace" but not "alt-shift-tab"
[05:59] <w0jrl> see if the wicd manager sees your card
[05:59] <Hydrant> yowshi: not many things are unkillable
[05:59] <bullgard4> n2diy: I am in Berlin, Germany.
[05:59] <Natthu> wicd manager is ?
[05:59] <msl> yowshi, Might try forcing the umount:  sudo umount -f /dev/sdX#
[05:59] <Natthu> got it
[05:59] <kain> elad`: i tried what u suggested for the alt-shift-tab in appearance, but nothing happened
[06:00] <Natthu> I ll try
[06:00] <kain> elad`: i still have the problem
[06:00] <Hydrant> msl:  he was talking about a joystick
[06:00] <bullgard4> kain: Ah, sri. I made a mistake. Please excuse me and forget what I said.
[06:00] <yowshi> msl: Cannot stat /dev/sdX11253: No such file or directory
[06:00] <elad`> kain, when you've turned off the effects, but haven't turned them back on yet, does alt-tab work?
[06:00] <sagaci> what does it mean if there's a tilde at the end of a filename
[06:00] <SHADOW_V> mezquitale, ok now what how do i get the new driver installed
[06:00] <Hydrant> yowshi: do you know what the joystick is under /dev
[06:00] <n2diy> bullgard4: RR, if I collected QSL cards, I'd want one of yours! :)
[06:00] <yowshi> Hydrant: yeah well about the only thing i found unkillable is any process  which crashes while using a usb device
[06:01] <yowshi> Hydrant: yes i do
the alt-tab always workds
[06:01] <Hydrant> yowshi: did you do fuser -m /dev/??? on the the joystick device?
[06:01] <Hydrant> it should show you what process is holding it
[06:01] <elad`> Oops. Sorry.
[06:01] <daurn> mount.ntfs is using lots of cpu
[06:01] <bullgard4> n2diy: hehe, I am not very much active on the radio waves any more. But I have got some QSL cards yet, I believe.
[06:01] <kain> elad`: its the alt-shift-tab that don't work
[06:01] <daurn> why? >.<
[06:01] <yowshi> Hydrant: i have no idea or had no idea what i was supposexcd to put for the ???
[06:02] <yowshi> Hydrant: msl wow thats alot of numbers that spit out
[06:02] <Natthu> I installed wicd ..
[06:02] <Natthu>  it stopped network manager
[06:03] <w0jrl> does it see your card
[06:03] <Natthu> I ran ifconfig .. but still the interface doesn't show up
[06:03] <Hydrant> yowshi: I asked you if you knew what dev entry your joystick was under /dev... you said yes
[06:03] <kain> elad`: is it possible that my nvidia driver is screwing it up?
[06:03] <Natthu> I installed the package wicd
[06:03] <Natthu> no gui
[06:03] <elad`> kain, I wouldn't know, but I highly doubt it.
[06:03] <yowshi> Hydrant: yeah /dev/input/js0
[06:03] <Hydrant> yowshi: okay... then look at what processes are using that device
[06:03] <w0jrl> wicd is a gui tool
[06:03] <n2diy> bullgard4: Roger that. Are you ready to play on Field Day?
[06:03] <yowshi> Hydrant: but msl handed me the fuser command a few seconds before you and not knowing what it was i didnt know what to do with it
[06:04] <nomad77_> Natthu: try sudo wicd
[06:04] <Hydrant> yowshi: fuser -v /dev/input/js0
[06:04] <Hydrant> not -m
[06:04] <kain> elad`: damn :S, it was working a few days ago, may while i was trying to work my webcam, i change something but i wouldn't know what
[06:04] <Hydrant> that should show you who is holding it
[06:04] <SHADOW_V> anyone one new driver install
[06:04] <w0jrl> try following the wireless guide at ubuntuguide.org
[06:04] <bullgard4> n2diy: I took part in several field days last year.
[06:05] <yowshi> Hydrant: that one gave no output. but the -fuser -m /dev/input/js0 gave alot of process numbers
[06:05] <kain> elad`:  ooohhhhh wait hold on, i think i found the problem
[06:05] <yurivr> i just got a zte mf636 usb wireless broadband card and i was looking through forums and could not find an easy fix to get it working, any ideas?
[06:05] <Hydrant> yowshi: I don't think -m is what you wanted
[06:05] <n2diy> bullgard4: ok, I'll be working W3CMA.
[06:05] <msl> yowshi, Do it with -mv
[06:05] <Soul-jer> hey haw do i use MSN internet access on ubuntu linux, not MSN msg-er but just their internt access, its dial up
[06:05] <Hydrant> yowshi: what makes you think something has control of your  joystick ?
[06:05] <msl> That will show the output Hydrant is looking for.
[06:05] <Hydrant> msl: -m is only will show mounted system though right ?
[06:05] <yowshi> hydrant -m        show all processes using the named filesystems
[06:06] <Natthu> wicd doesn't show the wifi card
[06:06] <yowshi> msl Hydrant the command must be wrong many of these processes couldnt possibly be using a joystick. hell gkrellm is listed
[06:06] <bullgard4> n2diy: I hope it will be fun to operate also on the air and not only drinking bud beer.
[06:07] <Hydrant> yah I don't think -m is right
[06:07] <Hydrant> yowshi: again, why do you think something has hold of your joystick ?
[06:07] <msl> Hydrant,  From the manpage:   -m   name specifies a file on a mounted file system or a block device that is mounted. All processes accessing files on that file system are listed.  If a directory file is specified, it  is  auto matically changed to name/. to use any file system that might be mounted on that directory.
[06:07] <Hydrant> msl: I read the manpage
[06:07] <yowshi> Hydrant: well for the simple fact that nothign else inclusing jscalibrator cant use it and yet it is pluggerd in
[06:08] <Hydrant> yowshi: what do you mean can't use it?
[06:08] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: hey
[06:08] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: it didnt work...
[06:08] <kain> elad`: i found why i had the problem, in my keyboard setup, i had put "alt-shift" to switch between languages and thats what was causing my problem, thanks for helping me think clearly :P
[06:08] <SHADOW_V> i installed the latest nvidia driver from their site and x isnt loading
[06:08] <yowshi> Hydrant: as in i run the jscalibrator programme to test if any input it being gotten from the joystick and it ius not responding to me moving the joystick
[06:08] <n2diy> bullgard4: Ha, Ha, we don't drink bud, we drink Yuengling, the oldest brewery in the USA, and it is only five miles away!
[06:08] <SHADOW_V> can someone help me to get the driver working right
[06:09] <Hydrant> yowshi: well, that doesn't mean another process has it
[06:09] <deepak> hey i could not get that BRoadcom package
[06:09] <yowshi> Hydrant: hmmm? what else could it mean?
[06:09] <Hydrant> yowshi: did you give the right arguments?  Also I think there is a jstest
[06:09] <msl> yowshi, You get any output if you cat the device and move the joystick around?    cat  /dev/input/js0
[06:10] <elad`> kain, my god, I am such an idiot! I had just the same problem in the past, but I had completely forgotten about it!
[06:10] <deepak> please tell me the entire process so that i can use my WI FI
[06:10] <w0jrl> the broadcom package is in the universe repos
[06:10] <kain> elad`: :P
[06:10] <w0jrl> i think
[06:11] <w0jrl> the package is called b43-fwcutter
[06:11] <n2diy> bullgard4:http://www.yuengling.com/
[06:11] <yowshi> Hydrant: msl both jstest and cat test failed
[06:12] <yowshi> Hydrant: msl i know it is plugged in i just checked
[06:12] <deepak> any one is there ?
[06:12] <yowshi> Hydrant: msl both jstest and cat test failed
[06:13] <kain> elad`: bye and thanks again
[06:13] <elad`> Bye!
[06:13] <Hydrant> yowshi: unplug your joystick, plug it in... check dmesg
[06:14] <Hydrant> also do tail /var/log/messages and tail /var/log/syslog look for antying unusual
[06:14] <Hydrant> check permissions
[06:14] <Hydrant> did you get a permission denied or anything ?
[06:14] <Kebles> Hello fellows. I'm having a bit of trouble after compiling v2.6.30 of the Linux kernel. I'm repeatedly receiving errors whenever I use apt-get, although the installation never fails. Here's the output from installing Epiphany (but it does it on any installation). http://asdfasf.ath.cx/aptgeterror.txt
[06:14] <bullgard4> n2diy: Great! Can you recognize the origin of the brand's name? It comes from the German 'juenger' which means 'young man (almost adult)'.
[06:15] <yowshi> Hydrant: msl dmesg does not register a recpluggin in of the device which means somethings jhammed probably the module no?
[06:15] <Kebles> Oops, typos. It's http://asdfasdf.ath.cx/aptgeterror.txt
[06:15] <whois> Hey guys
[06:15] <R_YoYo_R> hey
[06:15] <w0jrl> hey
[06:15] <Hydrant> yowshi: not following you
[06:15] <bullgard4> n2diy: Or even closer: 'juengling'.
[06:15] <whois> I have a second hard drive that I want to use as a directory for a home website
[06:15] <msl> yowshi, That is my only thought.  You know the name of the module?
[06:16] <yowshi> Hydrant: when i unplugged the device i checked dmesg  when i replugged in the device there was no change in dmesg
[06:16] <Roasted> Quick Question - On XP, if I go start - run - \\otherxpcomputernamehere I can see that computers shared documents. How can I do this from within Ubuntu? How can I view an XP computers shared documents on my network?
[06:16] <whois> Its showing as a dvd drive for some reason
[06:16] <Hydrant> yowshi: and you checked /var/log/sslog too ?
[06:16] <yowshi> msl: i think so but modprobe -r is of no use i tried that once already and modprobe crashed
[06:16] <whois> how can I get the hard drive to show as a hard drive instead of a dvd
[06:16] <Hydrant> yowshi: you probably don't have to screw around with modules
[06:16] <Hydrant> yowshi: do a lsusb
[06:17] <msl> yowshi, Any idea if rmmod is the same code?
[06:17] <R_YoYo_R> whois: what do you mean?
[06:17] <nomad77_> !swat | Roasted
[06:17] <Roasted> I have samba installed, but that doesn't answer my question.
[06:17] <Hydrant> yowshi: anyways, I have to go... good luck
[06:18] <Roasted> My question is how do I view shared documents on an XP machine. What do I do to view them. Where do I go. Network? Connect to server?
[06:18] <msl> yowshi, You can try rmmod to remove the module.  Looks like it is a more potent option than modprobe.
[06:18] <whois> I have  a hard drive that I just added to ubuntu. Instaed of showing as a hard drive (on the mount icon) it shows as a DVD icon
[06:18] <Kebles> Could anyone help me out?
[06:18] <yowshi> msl: as for hydrants suggestion of lsusb should i try it and rmmod -f hid_logitech just crashed
[06:18] <whois> that means I cant direct apache to use the hard drive as the vurtual directory
[06:19] <sebsebseb> !anyone | Kebles
[06:19] <randabis> Roasted: you'll probably have to set up samba to view them
[06:19] <error404notfound> is there a command that could view the diff between source and destination and ask user if he wants to replace the destination instead of just pasting over.
[06:19] <n2diy> bullgard4 intersting, no, I didn't know the origin of the name.
[06:19] <R_YoYo_R> whois: you can add the drive to fstab  ....
[06:19] <yowshi> msl: non -f gives a device busy
[06:19] <Roasted> I have samba set up.......
[06:19] <msl> yowshi, I think you will need a reboot to clean things up :(
[06:19] <Roasted> but again...... What do I DO to view them...
[06:19] <w0jrl> go to places connect to server in the server field put //computer_name and in the folder field put SharedDocuments
[06:19] <randabis> see above
[06:19] <The_Warlock> where can i get a particular monitors drivers for ubuntu?
[06:19] <yowshi> msl: yes i know a reboot will fix it i would very much like a way to fix it without rebooting
[06:19] <w0jrl> then click connect
[06:19] <Roasted> w0jrl - I'm trying that now, but I keep getting cannot display location.
[06:20] <Kebles> Hello fellows. I'm having a bit of trouble after compiling v2.6.30 of the Linux kernel. I'm repeatedly receiving errors whenever I use apt-get, although the installation never fails. Here's the output from installing Epiphany (but it does it on any installation). http://asdfasdf.ath.cx/aptgeterror.txt
[06:20] <yowshi> msl: this happens with EVERY usb device i ahve trioed either they dont work outright or programmes crash taking the device with it
[06:20] <sebsebseb> Kebles: oh you did, and yeah ppa for 2.6.30 or  wait for 9.10
[06:20] <w0jrl> try it with out the //
[06:20] <spasticteapot> Does anyone know a program that does the same job as ipconfig on the PC?
[06:20] <spasticteapot> ifconfig won't give me my DNS server or gateway.
[06:20] <w0jrl> ifconfig
[06:20] <yowshi> msl: anyway brb
[06:20] <whois> Thanx
[06:20] <spasticteapot> w0jrl: See statement #2.
[06:20] <whois> I will google fstab
[06:20] <Roasted> no dice
[06:20] <Roasted> failed
[06:21] <Flannel> !fstab | whois
[06:21] <Flannel> whois: Read that link instead (first link)
[06:21] <w0jrl> hmmm i did that one time and i am trying to remember how to do it
[06:22] <whois> Thanx guys
[06:22] <rodders> hi anyone around who knows about rsync?
[06:22] <Roasted> rodders - sure, whatcha need?
[06:22] <w0jrl> did you try7 going to places network and brouzing for it there?
[06:22] <deepak> wojrl - i am can not get that package for broadcom wifi
[06:22] <deepak> please tell me how to get
[06:22] <n2diy> spasticteapot: netstat?
[06:22] <YeTr2> so... my really awesome icons and stuff in firefox, totally disappeared.
[06:22] <rodders> I need to sync my music (held on ext2) onto an external vfat drive, somehow rsync not giving me the necessary results
[06:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> A Fatal Error Occurred
[06:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> The application Konqueror (konqueror) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
[06:22] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.
[06:22] <FloodBot2> CoJaBo-Aztec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:23] <CoJaBo-Aztec> :/
[06:23] <Roasted> rodders - what rsync command are you typing in?
[06:23] <w0jrl> sudo apt-get install b43-fwcutter
[06:23] <rodders> rsync -rv /media/music/  /media/ext_drive/music
[06:23] <w0jrl> were you able to brouz for your xp pc?
[06:24] <Roasted> rodders - is Music capitalized? That may make a difference
[06:24] <rodders> it seems to be sync n sync every file BTW ext_drive is vfat, so permissions are a prob.  (tried unison)
[06:24] <rodders> yes music is caps
[06:24] <YeTr2> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1857/screenshotubuntustartpa.png <- anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[06:24] <ssz> jhjj
[06:24] <ssz> hi
[06:24] <Roasted> rodders - are you sure your external drive is mounted to /media/ext_drive/?
[06:24] <yowshi> msl: i really really really need a way to sort out these usb problems without rebooting. same kind of thing happened with my usb camera
[06:24] <rodders> yes, it transfer ok
[06:25] <Roasted> rodders - so you do get some transfer?
[06:25] <rodders> I can get all the files transfered, but each time I run rsync, it seems to be transferring all the files again
[06:26] <Roasted> rodders - how much music do you have, if you had to estimate? 10gb? 30gb?
[06:26] <rodders> does caps really matter?  I know it does on ext2 but vfat doesn't bother (I think)
[06:26] <rodders> about 500 Gb
[06:26] <rodders> am checking only 1 directory now
[06:26] <yowshi> anyone else here having severe problems with usb devices and programmes not letting them go?
[06:26] <Roasted> rodders - it sure may. considering that you are doing this by command line.
[06:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> A Fatal Error Occurred
[06:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> The application Konqueror (konqueror) crashed and caused the signal 6 (SIGABRT).
[06:26] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Please help us improve the software you use by filing a report at http://bugs.kde.org. Useful details include how to reproduce the error, documents that were loaded, etc.
[06:26] <BellinXFelon> how do i make it so that totem movie player doesn't open everytime I put in a cd?
[06:26] <FloodBot2> CoJaBo-Aztec: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[06:26] <Roasted> rodders - how long does it take when you run your rsync script?
[06:27] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Why does it keep doing that?Q
[06:27] <kira> hola
[06:27] <msl> yowshi, No ideas over here.  :(
[06:27] <rodders> original 1st run is a couple of days.  now checking results on  only 1 directory
[06:27] <rodders> previously when both drives are ext2, there are no problems
[06:27] <n2diy> BellinXFelon: disable it in servers.
[06:28] <n2diy> servers/services
[06:28] <BellinXFelon> n2diy : can you elaborate i am new to this
[06:28] <Roasted> rodders - between the 1st and 2nd time you ran the rsync command, did you make a lot of changes to your music? Becuase any changes you make (modification times, renaming folders, etc) will be re-copied when you run rsync again
[06:28] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Does anyone know how to stop paste on middle click without disabling middle click?
[06:29] <Guest95276> aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
[06:29] <tannersummers_> guys what program can recover deleted files off an sd card for unbuntu
[06:29] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Its really becoming annoying :/
[06:29] <kira> ezeeeee
[06:29] <rodders> no changes to the directory.  Am just checking only 1 directory e.g. Abba, each time I run rsync for that directory, it syncs all the songs again
[06:30] <legend2440> BellinXFelon: open nautilus then edit>preferences>Media choose what to do when DVD is inserted
[06:30] <n2diy> menu-system-prefrences-services, or, system-prefrences?
[06:30] <mib_qtnl1d> is there a way to boot from a flash drive on a machine that doesnt have that bios option?
[06:30] <tannersummers_> guys what program can recover deleted files off an sd card for unbuntu
[06:30] <legend2440> BellinXFelon: or when CD is inserted
[06:31] <Roasted> rodders - it'll by nature sync everything again, but it shouldn't take DAYS to go. I run an rsync script which syncs data across 4 SATA hard drives in my system... it takes about a minute to run the script if nothing major was changed
[06:31] <eusu_kefuin> Anyone here knows why Ubuntu 8.04 has no /usr/sbin/hotplug nor a package named hotplug-utils?
[06:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> tannersummers_: There are a few that are free, but I dont remember the name..
[06:31] <saran> i am new to ubuntu, how to install ubuntu
[06:31] <tannersummers_> dang i kinda need one right now asap :S
[06:31] <eusu_kefuin> saran: Have you got its LiveCD?
[06:31] <saran> no
[06:31] <rodders> Roasted - it doesn't take days, only a couple of minutes for each directory, am checking only 1 directory now
[06:31] <CoJaBo-Aztec> tannersummers_: What was deleted?
[06:31] <msl> eusu_kefuin, Wasn't hotplug superceded by udev?
[06:31] <eusu_kefuin> saran: Do you have a fast Internet connection?
[06:32] <n2diy> ousu
[06:32] <saran> yes
[06:32] <tannersummers_> pictures
[06:32] <Roasted> rodders - what was your rsync command again?
[06:32] <eusu_kefuin> msl: Oh, I see.
[06:32] <nomad77_> tannersummers_: maybe gpart (guess part) or testdisk not sure tho.
[06:32] <eusu_kefuin> saran: You can download its ISO via torrent.
[06:32] <eusu_kefuin> saran: Just check out Ubuntu website under Download section
[06:32] <saran> k thank you
[06:32] <mezquitale> saran, do you have windows installed on your machine?? how much space do you have in your hard drive?
[06:32] <rodders> only checking 1 directory;  rsync -rv /media/hdd/music/aBBa/  /media/vfat-drive/music/aBBa
[06:32] <tannersummers_> how can i searhc for a package via terminal?
[06:33] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: hotplup is obsolete, I forget what handles that now.
[06:33] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: udev?
[06:33] <sebsebseb> !install |  saran
[06:33] <Roasted> rodders - now wiat... do you run 1 command for each directory of music? Or do you run 1 command for ALL music?
[06:33] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: could be?
[06:33] <rodders> it works ok, just that it is transferring all the files all over again.  I don't want to do this in Windows
[06:33] <CoJaBo-Aztec> tannersummers_: There are some specificly for image/video files, I needed one before, but cant find the link..
[06:34] <Ozzy_Out> hols
[06:34] <tannersummers_> =[
[06:34] <Ozzy_Out> hola
[06:34] <eusu_kefuin> I have a USB HID device that I want to black list (i.e., no input from the device shall be delivered to the user-space apps). Anyone knows how to do that with udev? I think hotplug-blacklist was the way before.
[06:34] <Ozzy_Out> habla en castellano
[06:34] <Ozzy_Out> nene
[06:34] <Ozzy_Out> jaj
[06:34] <BellinXFelon> legend2440 : can i put a command in konsole to do it?
[06:35] <rodders> ok found something on google
[06:35] <n2diy> ! blacklist
[06:35] <bittergeek> What the hell happened to WrongPlanet.com?
[06:35] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: But, if you blacklist an HID module, won't it mean that other USB HID devices will also stop working?
[06:35] <mezquitale> !es
[06:36] <CoJaBo-Aztec> tannersummers_: I think this was one of them, but I havent tried it: http://www.cgsecurity.org/wiki/PhotoRec
[06:36] <legend2440> BellinXFelon: sorry not familiar with konsole. i thiught you were using gnome
[06:36] <legend2440> *thought
[06:36] <eusu_kefuin> BellinXFelon: I am familiar enough with Konsole. What's the problem?
[06:36] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: I don't know? You could tell us that?
[06:36] <w0jrl> @n2diy depends on what modual is being blocked
[06:36] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: Hehehe.... I am still looking for that ;-)
[06:37] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: That's why I ask it here.
[06:37] <gartral> what do I do with proccesses that refuse to die?
[06:37] <CoJaBo-Aztec> tannersummers_: This might list more: http://swik.net/License:GPL+recovery (google tends to bring up only payware)
[06:37] <mezquitale> gartral,  kill them using "kill" command
[06:37] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: Anyway let me try to black list the module.
[06:37] <msl> gartral, kill -9    If that doesn't work, reboot.
[06:37] <BellinXFelon> eusu_kefuin : I need to make it so that totem movie player doesnt open everytime i put a cd in
[06:37] <gartral> mezquitale: "sudo kill -9 <PID>" is ignored
[06:38] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: I think my keyboard will stop working.
[06:38] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: Are you sure they arnt zombies?
[06:38] <eusu_kefuin> BellinXFelon: Ah, in that case, it is not about Konsole, isn't it? It's about turning off the autoplay feature of KDE.
[06:38] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: w0jrl, good luck, the cool thing about Linux/
[06:38] <xhema> moin
[06:38] <msl> gartral, I don't think you are going to kill it if kill -9 doesn't get it.
[06:38] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: I thought zombies were proccesses that refused to die :\
[06:38] <BellinXFelon> ok
[06:39] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: w0jrl, good luck, the cool thing about Linux//ubuntu, is we get to play with it.
[06:39] <BellinXFelon> eusu_kefuin : how do I go about doing that?
[06:39] <gartral> but yes its a zombie
[06:39] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: You have to kill the parent, IIRC
[06:39] <eusu_kefuin> BellinXFelon: Humm.... my KDE is not up right now.
[06:39] <BellinXFelon> eusu_kefuin : ok no worries
[06:39] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: xdg-open is the Z proccess
[06:40] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: They are dead, but still have a PID entry due to the parent not doing something it needs to.
[06:40] <gartral> also... my Pidgin refuses to connect to yahoo
[06:40] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: how do I trace back to a parent?
[06:40] <eusu_kefuin> BellinXFelon: How about this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=95658
[06:40] <Um_cara_qualquer> which codecs should i install to get youtube videos working fine?
[06:40] <w0jrl> @n2diy were you saying something to me? I was in another window
[06:41] <nomad77_> gartral: try htop in repos,shows process trees,or try sudo killall -9 appname
[06:41] <RUPP> gartral: i had the same problem on windows. it not connecting to yahoo
[06:41] <yowshi> anyone here know how to unjam a module jammed by a defunct process without rebooting?
[06:41] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: I usually use the system monitor (GUI), but I think ps does it also with setting an option.
[06:41] <n2diy> w0jrl: you can't scroll up to find that answer?
[06:42] <pokemon> hello
[06:42] <w0jrl> @n2diy no, i'm using gnome-orca
[06:42] <pokemon> hello dear ppl
[06:42] <gartral> !hello | pokemon
[06:42] <pokemon> thank you
[06:42] <pokemon> what is ubuntu?
[06:42] <gartral> !ask | pokemon
[06:43] <sebsebseb> !ubuntu | pokemon
[06:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> anyone can tell what can i do to run my youtube videos without lag?
[06:43] <pokemon> oh it sounds to me like a professional operating system
[06:43] <CoJaBo-Aztec> Um_cara_qualquer: Are you using adobe flash?
[06:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> dunno
[06:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> o_O
[06:43] <pokemon> is ubuntu a pro os?
[06:43] <n2diy> w0jrl: orca? Whatzat? I was replying to something i thought you might be interested in.
[06:43] <CoJaBo-Aztec> pokemon: But free! :)
[06:43] <mezquitale> Um_cara_qualquer, yes, get a fast internet connection
[06:43] <pokemon> free but pro? or free but good?
[06:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> k
[06:43] <Um_cara_qualquer> wait a sec
[06:44] <mezquitale> pokemon, ubuntu is an open sourced operating system
[06:44] <pokemon> yeah i know im just kidding
[06:44] <pokemon> actually i would like to know what is the reason, why ubuntu is exists?
[06:44] <pokemon> ive seen a tons of linux distributions
[06:44] <n2diy> pokemon: what do you mean by pro?
[06:44] <w0jrl> @n2diy orca doesn't store as much data as this room genorates it it's buffer
[06:45] <pokemon> pro is like an os that can do everything that a user want to do
[06:45] <n2diy> w0jrl: RR
[06:45] <pokemon> like from... video encoding to music making
[06:45] <Um_cara_qualquer> mezquitale: i'm using shockwave flash
[06:45] <w0jrl> @n2diy what were you saying?
[06:45] <CoJaBo-Aztec> pokemon: There are tons of packages, so you can do all that.
[06:45] <Um_cara_qualquer> mezquitale: how i install adobe flash?
[06:45] <n2diy> w0jrl: RR, roger, roger
[06:45] <w0jrl> @n2diy sorry
[06:46] <jeannoel> hello parlez vous francais ?
[06:46] <CoJaBo-Aztec> pokemon: And nearly everything can be found from the package manager, for free.
[06:46] <sebsebseb> !fr |  jeannoel
[06:46] <hobbet1> isnt ubuntu studio targeted for that type of work
[06:46] <n2diy> w0jrl: NP OM
[06:47] <w0jrl> is there a way to increase gnome-orca's text buffer?
[06:49] <w0jrl> hmmm, very quiet in here
[06:49] <elninja> Arrr!
[06:49] <mezquitale> Um_cara_qualquer, it you have flash and it works then great,  speed is not dependent on your installation of flash, it depends on your internet connection
[06:49] <Um_cara_qualquer> nvm
[06:51] <eusu_kefuin> n2diy: All USB HID devices are dead if you black-list the usbhid module.
[06:52] <n2diy> eusu_kefuin: bummer,GL.
[06:53] <elfMobile> omfg... just saw this.  This guy is drunk or redneck or somethign reviewing Linux Mint.  Pretty funny http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jdPDorh73vI
[06:53] <yowshi> anyone here know how to unjam a module jammed by a defunct process without rebooting?
[06:54] <Um_cara_qualquer> mezquitale: sorry, i didn't expressed me correctly, i what are the codes to install adobe flash player on firefox?
[06:55] <n2diy> yowshi: try "top" from the terminal?
[06:55] <mezquitale> Um_cara_qualquer,  just go to www.youtube.com and if you dont have flash installed like where it tells you to click and install the version for debian
[06:56] <yowshi> n2diy: defunct processes are unkillable by any ,ethod. and apparently normally harmless. i have found though that when a process dies while using a usb device like a webcam or joystick it will jam said device and it's related modules making it unavailable to any other programme and the modules dont respond to a modprobe -r
[06:57] <n2diy> yowshi: so kill the process?
[06:58] <gemini996> elfMobile, hahahahah
[06:58] <XELFAER> hi
[06:58] <msl> yowshi, I don't think anyone here has the expertise to fix this issue without reboot.  I don't think there is a solution without reboot....
[06:59] <yowshi> n2diy: as i said the defunct process is unkillable. for example if i am using dosbox and dosbox crashes so i kill it manually the process never dissappears from the ps-A or top list it just becomes listed as <defunct> but still somehow retains control of the frigging joystick
[06:59] <w0jrl> i might just have to reboot
[07:00] <yowshi> msl: that makes webcams and joysticks and usb mice and any other non flash disk related usb device uneable to me
[07:00] <n2diy> yowshi: how are you trying to kill  it?
[07:00] <yowshi> n2diy: with a kill-9
[07:00] <w0jrl> there might not be any way around it
[07:00] <n2diy> yowshi: from within top?
[07:01] <yowshi> n2diy: i have tried console within top from a root login on alt ctrl f1
[07:01] <yowshi> w0jrl: yeah i suspect thats the case
[07:01] <msl> yowshi, Are you sure your usb controller is supported?  You had stated that all USB devices have problems.  I don't think we should focus on dosbox and joystick when they don't seem to be the root proble.
[07:01] <C4colo> can someone tell me why when I swapped to two work spaces (instead of twinview) and then changed something on the panels it now reloads the panels every second or two?
[07:01] <msl> problem*
[07:01] <C4colo> I'm runnig 9.0.4
[07:01] <n2diy> yowshi: ok, exit top and try "killall "process"
[07:02] <w0jrl> you might try sudo dpkg --configure -a
[07:02] <yowshi> n2diy: none of the easy solutions work believe me i banged my head against this issue for 2 weeks when i still had faint hopes of using a webcam
[07:02] <gartral> anyone know why i suddenly cant connect too yahoo?
[07:02] <w0jrl> that might unjam the module
[07:02] <C4colo> I went back to twinview and everything clears up, but I don't want twinview, I want mulitple workspaces
[07:02] <n2diy> yowshi: you might have to sudo killall?
[07:02] <mib_6t0hnhh2> can you tell me how to set up my eth0 config on ubuntu server 8.10
[07:02] <msl> gartral, Many people have reported Yahoo issues today on Linux and Windows machines.  It appears to be a yahoo issue.
[07:03] <yowshi> n2diy: nope that dont work either
[07:03] <gartral> msl: great where can file my complaint? :)
[07:03] <msl> gartral, admin@yahoo.com ?
[07:03] <msl> lol
[07:03] <yowshi> n2diy: processes listed as defunct are already considered dead by the system. technically they arent supposed to use any resources of the system
[07:03] <yowshi> n2diy: i just hit on a very bad bug is all
[07:04] <w0jrl> @n2diy i wonder if sudo dpkg --configure -a will work?
[07:04] <C4colo> sounds like you guys are busy, I'll just reinstall
[07:04] <msl> yowshi, Do they work on the livecd?
[07:05] <gartral> meebosite
[07:05] <tannersummers_> wow testdisk is amazing
[07:05] <n2diy> yowshi: Congragulations! No, don't re-install, that is a Windows solution!
[07:05] <gartral> oopsa
[07:05] <C4colo> 8.0.4 is a long-term support version right?
[07:05] <Titan8990> !hardy
[07:05] <yowshi> n2diy: LOL funny i been running ubuntu for a while now 2 or 3 years
[07:05] <mib_6t0hnhh2> how to configure eth0 on ububtu server
[07:05] <n2diy> yowshi: You found a bug, now work on fixing it.
[07:05] <msl> C4colo, yes
[07:05] <w0jrl> @n2diy that should reset all the modules
[07:05] <yowshi> msl: i dont have a livecd handy
[07:06] <yowshi> n2diy: would if i could but i dont have the coding expertise heh
[07:06] <msl> yowshi, Did it work in the past?
[07:06] <gartral> haha.. meebo works j/f
[07:06] <C4colo> I installed i386 on accident anyway, downloaded it for a friend and forgot he was running an older 32-bit chip... I have 8GB of ram in this system so I think i might need 64
[07:06] <w0jrl> are there any windows xp drivers for your device?
[07:06] <C4colo> that's what I get for grabbing a disc laying on the workbench
[07:06] <n2diy> ! bug | yowshi
[07:07] <yowshi> msl: didnt have any usb devices other then flash disks in the past. i only vewry nrecently got them because what i wanted wasnt available other then usb
[07:07] <w0jrl> you could run them using ndiswrapper
[07:07] <msl> yowshi, You have any other linux machines around?
[07:07] <yowshi> msl: sadlymno. only my desktgop has linux in this house
[07:07] <piclez> please how can I see free disk space?
[07:07] <msl> piclez, df -h
[07:08] <w0jrl> disk annolizer
[07:08] <piclez> tks msl
[07:10] <msl> yowshi, Development may want you to do more recon before opening a bug.  Trying a livecd to make sure it wasn't a change made on this machine, checking to be sure your USB controller is supported, etc.
[07:13] <XELFAER> êòî íèòü ïî ðóññêè ðàçãîâàðèâàåò?
[07:13] <yowshi> a) kind of hard since i dont ahve any cd's handy and wont have till the end of the month and b)it worked perfectly through jscal and jscalibrator before the dosbox crash so i think it is supported
[07:14] <waters33637> I just installed 9.04 on an older computer .. Had to install in SAFE GRAPHICS MODE ... standard instill only gave me a blank screen .. Anyways, now that i'm up an running .. Something other than 800x600 would be nice .. anyone got time to help me with this .. being im a newbie?
[07:14] <yowshi> msl: i did run jscalibrator initially to make sure it was registering right and calibrated
[07:14] <Um_cara_qualquer> mezquitale: sorry man, still laggy videos
[07:16] <gartral> how do i test read i/o of my systems memory?
[07:16] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: Memory test? Most liveCDs come with one
[07:17] <indus> gartral: hello
[07:17] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: rather not have too reboot
[07:17] <creeed_> hello
[07:17] <XELFAER> hi
[07:17] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: To do a full test, you would have to do a reboot (it couldn't test memory thats in use)
[07:17] <gartral> hello indus
[07:18] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: i dont need full test, just speed
[07:18] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: Probably try a benchmarking program then
[07:18] <waters33637> like ... what would happen if i changed the xorg.conf ... file from vesa driver to intel ..
[07:18] <yowshi> oh fraggit forgot to specify joystick type and ubuntu version and such
[07:19] <gartral> CoJaBo-Aztec: may i have a suggestion?
[07:19] <CoJaBo-Aztec> what?
[07:19] <gartral> of tools >.>
[07:20] <CoJaBo-Aztec> gartral: I don't know any, but package manager or google should find plenty
[07:20] <electronicmaji> Yo gees
[07:20] <earthmeLon> Hey guys!  I just installed Ubuntu on a dual monitor desktop.  I got my nvidia drivers installed, but my 720p TV resolution will not work correctly.  It shows off center, or to the left.  I have a black bar about 4 inches on the right hand side of my screen.  Any suggestions?
[07:20] <waters33637> hey .. would changing vesa to intel in the xorg.conf file make it load the intel driver for my video card?
[07:20] <electronicmaji> I got mes a image of ubuntu and i want to puts it on a usb drive to
[07:20] <electronicmaji> how dosi do that
[07:21] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; run gksudo nvidia-settings ..in that you should be able to move where the screens are.. like drag the position around
[07:21] <waters33637> earthmelon: Use the remote on the tv .. i have to change the formate everytime i reboot ..
[07:21] <bastid_raZor> s/are/around
[07:22] <sagaci> how would i go about making my own ubuntu live cd with ubuntu restricted extras (flash and mp3 enabled)?
[07:22] <creeed__> sorry my connection in unstable
[07:22] <earthmeLon> bastid_raZor waters33637 Thank you.  I will try both of your suggestions.  In nvidia-settings, I don't see where I can actually move it around, but I will look harder
[07:22] <creeed__>  I need an applet witch monitor the signal strength of my wifi except nm-applet, because i manage my wifi-connection with wpa_supplicant and not with NetworkManager
[07:22] <creeed__> I will accept nm-applet if someone tell me how I can configure it to monitor wireless connections without NetworkManager
[07:24] <yowshi> ghow do i find out exactly which kernel version i am using?
[07:24] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; under X Server Display Configuration
[07:24] <creeed__> yowshi, uname -a
[07:24] <Flannel> yowshi: uname -r
[07:24] <yowshi> thanks
[07:24] <indus> uname -m
[07:25] <waters33637> earthmelon: I have an rca .. and no matter what i do .. i have to click the format button everytime i reboot .. in linux and windows ... doesnt change .. just have to bring up the option ... I have never go anything to try and fix this .. being it's not a big problem for me ...
[07:25] <earthmeLon> Yeah bastid_raZor, That's where I am at.  I only see the ability to change resolutions
[07:25] <yowshi> frag it i will just put em all in the bloody bug report trim it up a bnit
[07:25] <earthmeLon> waters33637: my monitor works perfectly under windows.  I will search for a format button on the tv
[07:25] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; do you see Layout .. it should show two sets of screens.. i can click and drag them about
[07:26] <earthmeLon> Yes, bastid_raZor but that is only to set relation to each other
[07:26] <yowshi> oh wait the firt one covers tham all thyanks anyway
[07:26] <earthmeLon> bastid_raZor: IE: one monitor is to the left or above another monitor
[07:26] <Geometry> what is the emerald theme
[07:26] <Geometry> what is the emerald theme manager
[07:26]  * gartral suggest the drivers "Fix HDTV resolution" option if they have any
[07:26] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; right, i had a black line on the 2nd monitor. by adjusting that it displayed correctly
[07:27] <ActionParsnip> !emerald
[07:28] <randabis> hmm..wonder if an emerald alternative will come around...
[07:28] <safruhani> hi using 8.10 & gnome, how can i add a new desktop via menus?
[07:28] <Geometry> i found this theme i like but i need to use emerald to install it
[07:28] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; also you TV may have an adjustment.. like the other guy suggested.
[07:28] <creeed__> Geometry, just get use of google -> http://wiki.compiz-fusion.org/EmeraldThemeManager
[07:29] <Xcell> Geometry-  its prolly an emerald only theme..
[07:29] <indus> Geometry: emerald can be installed from synaptic
[07:29] <Geometry> http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Lowfat+Lefty+(cgwd+version)?content=77307
[07:29] <Geometry> thats what i want
[07:30] <indus> Geometry: that link says content not found
[07:30] <Geometry> http://www.kde-look.org/content/show.php/Lowfat+Lefty+(Emerald+version)?content=77308
[07:30] <Geometry> that is the right onw
[07:30] <Xcell> same
[07:30] <safruhani> i want one more desktop size, how can i add from menus?
[07:30] <Geometry> wtf
[07:31] <Geometry> and whats synaptic
[07:31] <rodders> ok, I'm back ==> rsync & vfat, if anyone wants to know, check out this article: http://www.kylev.com/2005/03/29/rsync-and-vfat/
[07:31] <bastid_raZor> safruhani; are you using compiz?
[07:31] <Xcell> sys/admin/synaptic package manager
[07:31] <safruhani> bastid_raZor: no
[07:31] <earthmeLon> Yeah, bastid_raZor it doesn't seem to be solving my problem.  Thank you though
[07:31] <safruhani> bastid_raZor: from gnome menus
[07:31] <indus> Geometry: main menu>system>administration>synaptic package manager
[07:32] <bastid_raZor> earthmeLon; good luck. wish i could have been more helpful.
[07:32] <rodders> does anyone know how to remove joins and exits from xchat?
[07:32] <safruhani> bastid_raZor: isn't it possible without compiz?
[07:32] <Xcell> rodders-  right click on the room your in @ the tab
[07:32] <bastid_raZor> safruhani; i'm sure it is. i use compiz which makes it a bit easier.. at times
[07:33] <safruhani> ok thanks bastid_raZor
[07:33] <earthmeLon> My secondary monitor is off center or shoved to the left, causing a black bar on the right.  Any ideas on how to solve this?  I have my nvidia drivers installed correctly
[07:34] <rodders> xcell - nope, can't find that option anywhere
[07:34] <Xcell> rodders-  do you have the full xchat installed?
[07:34] <rodders> I'm using xchat-gnome
[07:34] <indus> got a newer linux kernel yesterday for 9.04
[07:34] <fosa> *hangs head*
[07:34] <bastid_raZor> rodders; right click the channel name and uncheck show join/part messages
[07:35] <indus> was it  a  fix for intel cardss?
[07:35] <Xcell> thats why.. uninstall xchat-gnome and install full version from synaptic
[07:35] <indus> Xcell: xchat-gnome is full version isnt it,thtas what iam using
[07:35] <indus> Xcell: also its an officially supported package
[07:35] <Xcell> no.. it has limited features
[07:36] <safruhani> could someone say me how can i add a new desktop size via gnome menus?
[07:36] <rodders> bastid - nope no such options on #ubuntu, I think xchat-gnome is dfferent
[07:36] <bastid_raZor> rodders; very possible.
[07:36] <indus> Xcell: what features
[07:36] <Xcell> most
[07:36] <rodders> let me try another chat prog, this is confusing
[07:37]  * apap Καλή μου εξέταση...
[07:37] <indus> Xcell: i have to know. cos iam using it now.
[07:37] <Xcell> rodd just do the simple task i requested and you will have no problems
[07:37] <^Phantom^> I some messed up my cursor.  I accidentally did Winkey+R to run something thinking i was in windoze, and now whenever i open a window the mouse moves to it.  And when I close one, it moves to the center of the desktop.  How can I reverse this?
[07:37] <^Phantom^> somehow*
[07:37] <Xcell> indus-  full version is not limited..
[07:37] <rodders> now the full version is much better than xchat-gnome, thanks
[07:37] <indus> Xcell: hmm lets see
[07:38] <^Phantom^> I somehow messed up my cursor.  I accidentally did Winkey+R to run something thinking i was in windoze, and now whenever i open a window the mouse moves to it.  And when I close one, it moves to the center of the desktop.  How can I reverse this?
[07:38] <indus> Xcell: what features
[07:38] <Xcell> rodders-  google lemmings xchat scripts.. (if you want) install that and it has more features
[07:39] <rodders> no need, dropping in here because i had a problem.  Usually just in the background
[07:39] <Xcell> ok
[07:39] <rodders> BTW rsync and vfat working well now
[07:39] <indus> Xcell: ya you are right,wonder  why they have xchat-gnome
[07:39] <^Phantom^> how do i stop the mouse from automatically centering itself on windows?
[07:40] <rodders> let me remove xchat-gnome from the menus
[07:40] <Xcell> indus-  its a simple scaled down version for beginners
[07:40] <indus> but its enough for me - iam a beginner
[07:40] <hugo> OK JUST WONDERING - who hates mac more than any other os? I DO!
[07:40] <Xcell> lol
[07:40] <rodders> hugo - same here
[07:40] <hugo> you know they make a server platform!
[07:41] <hugo> mac OS X SERVER
[07:41] <^Phantom^> I somehow messed up my cursor.  I accidentally did Winkey+R to run something thinking i was in windoze, and now whenever i open a window the mouse moves to it.  And when I close one, it moves to the center of the desktop.  How can I reverse this?
[07:41] <indus> iam still here
[07:41] <fosa> omg
[07:41] <indus> no quit
[07:41] <fosa> java is working
[07:41] <hugo> wow that must be shit
[07:41] <fosa> i may just implode
[07:42] <hugo> seriously I'm watching a video right now they're like "it's the most advanced kernel in the market"
[07:42] <hugo> and they say it's so advanced because it supports network file sharing and netboot!
[07:42] <hugo> Linux is LIGHTYEARS ahead
[07:42] <CoJaBo-Aztec> lol
[07:43] <indus> ^Phantom^: hi
[07:43] <Geometry> i just installed emerald and imported the theme but it didnt change... am i missing something
[07:43]  * ^Phantom^ waves... hello
[07:44] <hugo> WOW IT RUNS APACHE WITH OTHER SERVICES AT THE SAME TIME!
[07:44] <indus> Geometry: u need the compiz-fusion tray icon to switch
[07:44] <hugo> AMAZING
[07:44] <indus> hugo:the link please
[07:44] <hugo> right here dude: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EFIF2496Br0
[07:44] <Geometry> i need the what/
[07:45] <indus> Geometry: wait
[07:45] <Geometry> ok
[07:45] <^Phantom^> I somehow messed up my cursor.  I accidentally did Winkey+R to run something thinking i was in windoze, and now whenever i open a window the mouse moves to it.  And when I close one, it moves to the center of the desktop.  How can I reverse this?  It's starting to annoy me now... :(
[07:46] <indus> Geometry: install the package compiz-icon
[07:46] <indus> Geometry: sorry fusion icon
[07:46] <indus> ^Phantom^: windows key + r?
[07:46] <^Phantom^> yeagh
[07:47] <Geometry> ok
[07:47] <Geometry> im installing fusion
[07:47] <Geometry> ok it is installed
[07:48] <^Phantom^> like i click on the desktop and the mouse moves itself back to this window
[07:48] <^Phantom^> basically it got a mind of its own
[07:48] <indus> ^Phantom^: press the key again
[07:48] <|Ryan> I need halp with installing Kubuntu 9.04 from the ISO - When i click the wubi in the Kubuntu 9.04 ISO, it comes up with the Ubuntu installer and when I click on the select desktop environment and click Kubuntu, it goes to the installation and downloads it all over again. Anyone know how I can resolve this?
[07:49] <^Phantom^> it's doing it still, indus
[07:49] <|Ryan> Me?
[07:49] <waters33637> Hey ... xorg ... told me to ask you guys .. is the intel driver for 9.04 has a problem?
[07:49] <indus> ^Phantom^: do a windows + shift + M
[07:50] <^Phantom^> okay...
[07:50] <^Phantom^> still doing it
[07:50] <^Phantom^> grr
[07:50] <hugo> hey guys listen to this from my CompTIA Network+ Study Guide:
[07:50] <Geometry> indus i installed it should it be working now/
[07:50] <lstarnes> !intel | waters33637
[07:50] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: do you have compiz running?
[07:50] <waters33637> !intel
[07:50] <^Phantom^> um...lemme check
[07:51] <^Phantom^> yeah
[07:51] <indus> lstarnes: yesterday was a new kernel probably for intel but iam not sure
[07:51] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: do you have compiz settings manager installed?
[07:51] <indus> ^Phantom^: then you should disable it
[07:51] <|Ryan> Can anyone help me?
[07:51] <indus> ^Phantom^: do a ALT-SysRQ+k
[07:51] <^Phantom^> don't see it
[07:52] <hugo> A customer wanted a server capable of doing some file sharing.  The server had to be robust and capable of interacting with all of the companies windows clients.  They had the hardware but couldn't afford the windows 2000 server software.  The solution was to install Red Hat Linux and install samba
[07:52] <bazhang> !ot > hugo
[07:52] <quxinot> still fighting with samba myself ><
[07:52] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: go synaptic and install it, after that you can setting your mouse at it
[07:53] <waters33637> ok .. so intel video drivers do have some problem .. Hey im a newbie .. any one got some time to help me with a workaround?
[07:53] <^Phantom^> oh yes i do have it installe3d
[07:53] <^Phantom^> my bad
[07:54] <|Ryan> Anyone?
[07:56] <^Phantom^> is it mouse polling?
[08:02] <indus> ryan
[08:02] <Eloi> #ubuntu-fr
[08:03] <jamiewan> can someone point me in the right direction as to an application that will play dvd's, ive tried brassero, movie player and they just dont work grrr
[08:03] <jamiewan> using jaunty
[08:03] <jamiewan> or a generic rip and play app
[08:04] <indus> jamiewan: try VLC
[08:04] <Titan8990> !vlc | jamiewan
[08:04] <jamiewan> thank you will have a look
[08:05] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: i think is just "better zoomtool" or something like that
[08:05] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: i tested it...
[08:06] <^Phantom^> hmm?
[08:06] <waters33637> ok .. i have use d/l the preview of the 2.8 intel drivers .. should i change my xorg.conf file to intel also .. from vesa?
[08:08] <^Phantom^> did your mouse move automatically, troopperi ?
[08:09] <bringmeasteak> would someone be so kind and test my shoutcast, and let me know if you hear music?? http://76.90.247.68:8000/listen.pls
[08:09] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: yeah, and i press again win+r buttons and my desktop get zoomed very large...
[08:09] <^Phantom^> so it's enhanced zoom desktop doing it?
[08:09] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: yeah, and i think so
[08:10] <roxie> is there a way to password protect folders?
[08:11] <XDS2010> Exclusive tech co-op, buy in is >30$ USD http://tr.im/p1h1
[08:11] <darkdelusions> sigh this intel audio chipset is about to drive me crazy
[08:11] <^Phantom^> troopperi, yeah disabling that made it stop, it seems.
[08:11] <^Phantom^> Thankies, :)
[08:11] <XDS2010> darkdelusions: why?
[08:11] <XDS2010> i have i hd
[08:11] <troopperi> ^Phantom^: good to get problem solved :P
[08:12] <^Phantom^> yeah, thank you :)
[08:12] <bringmeasteak> hey who did it?
[08:12] <XDS2010> < intel high def audio
[08:12] <darkdelusions> XDS2010:  I thought I had it fixed where it would auto mute my speakers when I plugged in my headset then all of a sudden it stopped working
[08:12] <roxie> is there a way to password protect certain folders??? i am using ubuntu netbook remix on dell mini 9 with runcore 64gb ssd and 2 gb ram
[08:13] <XDS2010> darkdelusions: i wish mine worked like that
[08:13] <Titan8990> roxie, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/EncryptedPrivateDirectory
[08:13] <XDS2010> your lucky
[08:13] <darkdelusions> XDS2010: my still doesnt :)
[08:13] <EricBlade> umm.. maybe dumb question.  I've got a box that is only recognising 32MB ram .. is there something I can do with a standard ubuntu disc to make it boot?
[08:13] <darkdelusions> XDS2010: so we are in the same boat :)
[08:13] <XDS2010> darkdelusions: i saw this before
[08:13] <vatts> hi, what is that command which lists all infos about your ethernet/wireless PCI card?
[08:13] <XDS2010> there is a fix on the forum
[08:13] <vatts> (LOCO is sleeping :S)
[08:14] <XDS2010> i WANT this bug
[08:14] <^Phantom^> dude you can change all sorts of window animations
[08:14] <^Phantom^> this is so cool, i never knew it was possible until i started messing around with this XD
[08:14] <roxie> titan8990: wow thats a lot of stuff to learn. nm. i thought it would be easier than that...
[08:14] <Flannel> vatts: lspci (and lsusb for usb stuff)
[08:14] <XDS2010> I bet you never heard anyone say they wanted a bug before :P
[08:14] <vatts> Flannel: not that, those wont tell me my dynamic ip (or?)
[08:14] <XDS2010> ""03:13.18	darkdelusions	XDS2010: my still doesnt :)""
[08:14] <vatts> i know there was sucha command :s
[08:14] <XDS2010> ?
[08:15] <roxie> they should have that feature built in, i guess not
[08:15] <Flannel> vatts: Oh, you want your ip? ifconfig
[08:15] <roxie> ty anyways
[08:15] <vatts> ty^^
[08:15] <piclez> sorry again how to see free disk space?
[08:15] <vatts> wtf
[08:15] <XDS2010> darkdelusions:  i don't understand that
[08:15] <vatts> dapper doesn't know that cmd, Flannel
[08:15] <vatts> :S
[08:15] <vatts> dapper is teh only one which goes on that mother board
[08:15] <vatts> - " "
[08:15] <vatts> because that mobo has ISA rails
[08:15] <Flannel> vatts: Of course, that'll give you your network IP, if you've got a router, that'll be a 192.168.* IP, you'll need to get your external IP if you're looking for that (from whatismyip.com or the like)
[08:15] <vatts> NO
[08:15] <Flannel> vatts: Yes, dapper knows that command.
[08:15] <vatts> my internal ip
[08:15] <vatts> ^^
[08:16] <vatts> ipconfig
[08:16] <darkdelusions> XDS2010: It should be as simple as going into the alsabase,conf and adding options snd-hda-intel model=3stack-dig position_fix=0 probe_mask=1 but as always ubuntu likes to give me hell :)
[08:16] <Flannel> vatts: ifconfig
[08:16] <vatts> ah
[08:16] <vatts> xD
[08:16] <^Phantom^> dude these animations are AWESOME!!!
[08:16]  * vatts failed at Fri Jun 19 09:16:37
[08:16] <XDS2010> i gtg
[08:16] <XDS2010> ill talk to you all later
[08:16] <ozzloy> my webcam that used to work no longer works.  i have a lenovo x200.  all i can find on the web is "works for me"  can i get some help?
[08:17] <XDS2010> anyone here from asia by the way ?
[08:17] <XDS2010> or near asia ?
[08:17] <bazhang> !ot > XDS2010
[08:17] <indus> asl please
[08:18] <XDS2010> bazhang:  im researching the origins of ubuntu this is not OT
[08:18] <indus> XDS2010: this is a channel primarily for support thats what he means
[08:19] <kraut> moin
[08:19] <Flannel> XDS2010: This channel is just for support, #ubuntu-offtopic is a much better question for non-support ("about ubuntu" questions)
[08:19] <indus> XDS2010: other discussions can be had in #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:19] <indus> or listen to a mod :D
[08:20] <vatts> ty doubletime Flannel
[08:21] <EricBlade> oh, sweet, the kernel loads with 48mb ..  I think that's as far as I can go with this ..
[08:23] <EricBlade> is there any possibility, that even though this ancient piece of crap's bios doesn't return the full amount of ram, I can still maybe use a command line parameter to tell it, and it'll maybe use it?
[08:23] <XDS2010> Exclusive tech co-op, buy in is >30$ USD http://tr.im/p1h1
[08:23] <dROg> hey there, anybody on ?
[08:24] <dROg> having some problems with pidgin ....
[08:24] <mower26> Everytime I try to enable twinview in my nividia x server setting it crashed my panel and I lose my menus, any help appreciated
[08:26] <rbo_> hello! cron is not started for some reason after reboot under Ubuntu Server. It's not even listed by rcconf tool...
[08:27] <zetheroo> why is it that when I use a USB card reader to mount a SD card its read only, but when I use the same SD card in my internal SD card reader its read and write ?
[08:28] <mower26> any help would be appreciated
[08:30] <bazhang> mower26, this is for twinscreens?
[08:30] <oosiris> hey guys.. not sure if this is the right place to ask this question but kindly help
[08:30] <oosiris> my firefox on ubuntu runs very slow
[08:30] <bazhang> !xrandr | mower26
[08:30] <indus> oosiris: so does mine
[08:30] <oosiris> slower then they way it runs on windows..
[08:30] <oosiris> any idea why>
[08:30] <mower26> yes twin screens
[08:31] <indus> oosiris: yes its a fact it runs better on windows , no idea why though
[08:31] <oosiris> and how it can be improved.. or its just something that we have to "live with"
[08:31] <mower26> cheers I'll have a look
[08:31] <bazhang> mower26, check the xrandr link above :)
[08:31] <indus> oosiris: well,it was good before,then it got worse,but i believe with the newer firefox 3.5 things should be better
[08:31] <oosiris> If I am not wrong 3.5 has a beta.
[08:32] <oosiris> have u tried that .. does it work better?
[08:32] <indus> oosiris: i have it in jaunty
[08:32] <oosiris> is it stable for use?
[08:32] <indus> oosiris: not much so cant say, i need to try again,but you can try yourself too
[08:32] <oosiris> sure will do
[08:32] <oosiris> thanks
[08:32] <indus> oosiris: well ,its not really a beta
[08:32] <EricBlade> ubuntu install disc, how to add command line parameters for the kernel, besides the ones that it has in it's very small and useless menu?
[08:32] <oosiris> btw..how is chromium browser in Linux?
[08:33] <indus> dont know that one
[08:33] <oosiris> okie
[08:33] <Flannel> EricBlade: f4 or f5 or something will allow you to modify them (advanced options? the verbage keeps changing)
[08:33] <oosiris> let me try that out
[08:33] <oosiris> and see.
[08:33] <indus> oosiris: for now,its called the shiretoko web browser :)
[08:33] <indus> ff 3.5
[08:34] <EricBlade> flannel: the help file says F6, but F6 just gives me ACPI on/off and APIC on/off, and "Free Software Only"
[08:34] <Flannel> EricBlade: Well, I can't imagine they removed it, but I also haven't booted a recent liveCD.  F7?  Expert options or something?
[08:35] <Flannel> EricBlade: oh, try f4
[08:35] <basheer> hi
[08:35] <EricBlade> oh, lol, if you just start typing something besides F-keys, it adds it to the command line
[08:36] <Nickxm> register <password>
[08:36] <Nickxm> hmm
[08:36] <vatts> ? :)
[08:36] <lstarnes> Nickxm: you are doing that wrong
[08:36] <Flannel> Nickxm: /msg nickserv register password
[08:37] <oosiris> @indus shiretoko ?
[08:37] <Nickxm> Ah, alright. I was testing it xD I just got this :3
[08:37] <lstarnes> Nickxm: see /msg nickserv help register and http://freenode.net/faq.shtml#nicksetup
[08:37] <vatts> x)
[08:37] <indus> oosiris: yes its beta 4 now, use it,but it has bugs
[08:37] <Nickxm> Thank you :)
[08:37] <indus> oosiris: cant save a file it downloaded i hear
[08:37] <^Phantom^> lol the guy on tv is eating dog biscuits <_<
[08:38] <Nickxm> I'm watching Mythbusters here
[08:38] <^Phantom^> Speeders
[08:38] <vatts> MyTHBUSTERS!!!
[08:38] <Nickxm> Lol
[08:38]  * vatts goes to Nickxm to see them
[08:38] <^Phantom^> this tv i'm using doesn't pick up the discovery channel :(
[08:38] <Nickxm> Boo at no discovery channel
[08:38] <vatts> bbl
[08:38] <vatts> chopping grass :S
[08:39] <BuFF> does anybody know a good intro tutorial of using kismet ?
[08:40] <jemi> where i can get all the plugins for eclipse...
[08:41] <Nickxm>      /msg nickserv set hidemail on
[08:41] <Nickxm> errr
[08:41] <jemi> join #ubuntu
[08:43] <eross> remember sonique? is there such a skinnable player for ubuntu?
[08:43] <Nickxm> :) Off to mess around more on this new lil netbook. See you all tomorrow
[08:43] <eross> my razor mouse finally works in jaunty :)
[08:44] <arshadsiddiqui> hi
[08:46] <eross> just upgraded the linux kernel via apt, hope it all works when i reboot later :/
[08:52] <darkdelusions> I truely hate my laptop
[08:52] <gggg> darkdelusions, why do you hate?
[08:52] <darkdelusions> This sound is an evil spawn of satan :)
[08:52] <darkdelusions> err
[08:52] <^Phantom^> i mean we get discovery channel
[08:52] <darkdelusions> sound card that is
[08:53] <user6> hei.... paste bin for images?
[08:53] <gggg> darkdelusions, what's the brand?
[08:53] <^Phantom^> erm, that was way late >_> sorry
[08:53] <domino14> for CHRIST'S sake how hard is it to get sound working correctly? i'm trying to get hydrogen and rhythmbox to play at the same time and it won't do it, i have to restart the program
[08:53] <gggg> darkdelusions, what type of err
[08:53] <domino14> using alsa drivers
[08:53] <domino14> why does this still not work properly? i've had this problem since like 2001
[08:53] <ideamonk> can anyone share his experience using ubuntu on latest Macbook Pro
[08:53] <darkdelusions> Audio device: Intel Corporation 82801H (ICH8 Family) HD Audio Controller (rev 03)
[08:54] <domino14> someone fix sound!!!!
[08:54] <darkdelusions> Using the a the real tech alc1200 codec
[08:54] <zetheroo> ﻿why is it that when I use a USB card reader to mount a SD card its read only, but when I use the same SD card in my internal SD card reader its read and write ?
[08:54] <gggg> darkdelusions, search in ubuntuforums.org
[08:55] <darkdelusions> I have :)
[08:55] <^Phantom^> what's the offtopic channel name again please
[08:55] <Flannel> ^Phantom^: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <lstarnes> ^Phantom^: #ubuntu-offtopic
[08:55] <darkdelusions> gggg: it works but i am trying to get the speakers to mute when i plug my headset in
[08:56] <darkdelusions> I thought I had it fixed then well it stoped working :(
[08:56] <^Phantom^> Flannel, lstarnes thankies :D
[08:56] <domino14> someone please make it so i can play sound from two differnt programs at once, is it really that hard? what is wrong with alsa?
[08:57] <gggg> darkdelusions, post your problem in ubuntuforums.org,
[08:57] <livingdaylight> kann mir jemand sagen wie man .7z files öffnet?
[08:57] <Flannel> !de | livingdaylight
[08:58] <livingdaylight> cannen one say me how open .7z ?
[08:58] <domino14> someone please tel me what to do
[08:58] <domino14> how do i get hydrogen and rhythmbox to play sound at the same time?
[08:58] <ziroday> livingdaylight: install the p7zip-full package
[08:58] <Flannel> livingdaylight: 7zip is in the repos, p7zip
[08:59] <livingdaylight> thank you Ubunteros!
[08:59] <tgpraveen> livingdaylight: install 7-zip
[08:59] <livingdaylight> you are the best !
[08:59] <xukun> I have a avi file which plays fine but there is no sound.  is it possible to see what the sound format is?
[08:59] <domino14> if no one helps me i'll buy windows!
[08:59] <darkdelusions> gggg: Done that :) about 2 weeks ago i thought I had it fixed then all of a sudden it seems to have stopped working
[09:00] <livingdaylight> Tina Turner dedicated the song "Simply the best to #Ubuntu"
[09:00] <roxie> im using ubuntu netbook remix on dell mini 9 with 64gb runcore ssd and 2 gb ram. is there a way to defragment my drive? do i need to?
[09:00] <domino14> quick before it's too late
[09:00] <numerouno> some1 can help me?
[09:00] <numerouno> i cant install realplayer
[09:00] <gggg> xukun, System>Preferences>Sound
[09:00] <numerouno> i cant play any .mp3 and .avi files
[09:00] <xukun> gggg, that is not it. I have sound working but not on this one avi file
[09:01] <[Gloom]> hi there
[09:01] <domino14> ok off to install windows
[09:01] <numerouno> hurmm
[09:01] <linxeh> domino14: enjoy
[09:01] <gggg> xukun, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:01] <domino14> at least it'll have SOUND
[09:01] <gggg> numerouno, sudo apt-get install smplayer
[09:02] <gggg> numerouno, sudo apt-get install w32codecs
[09:02] <MIETHA> bandung
[09:02] <[Gloom]> My 9.04 has gone willd, and now it likes to boot the system using the "performance" cpu freq profile, instead the "ondemand" that it has been using at boot since I installed. Any idea how to change the default governor that ubuntu jaunty uses at start?
[09:02] <MIETHA> aii yang mau curhat tlp w
[09:03] <pixel> how to make sidebar in ubuntu 9.04?
[09:03] <numerouno> gggg : couldnt find package
[09:03] <numerouno> for both command
[09:03] <gggg> numerouno, which package?
[09:04] <tannersummers_> the firewall built into ubuntu how do i trun it on?
[09:04] <domino14> lol the new linux kernel fixed it
[09:04] <domino14> thank you developers, after 18 years
[09:05] <ply> ¶¼µ½ÁË
[09:05] <ohellyeah70> can anyone tell me why pidgin won't connect to my yahoo messenger?
[09:05] <gggg> numerouno, read this http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=766683
[09:05] <l0_tex> ohellyeah70 put in the ip address instead of the server name give me a sec and I'll get you the ip of the server
[09:06] <ohellyeah70> ty!
[09:06] <l0_tex> 66.163.181.179 try that it worked for me
[09:06] <myxo> hey guys, i have a screenshot related to a virtualbox problem i'm having, think anyone would have a look at it ?
[09:06] <l0_tex> what problem are you having?
[09:06] <myxo> i deleted the virtual drive and am not sure how to recreate one, it says it already exists
[09:06] <vatts> grass chopped
[09:06] <vatts> :D
[09:07] <l0_tex> never seen that one
[09:07] <l0_tex> ohellyeah let me know if that works for you
[09:07] <ohellyeah70> tex, that gose where it says "pager server?
[09:07] <myxo> i'll post a link to the screenshot, it has a bit of an arguement between me and a girl on it lol
[09:07] <myxo> but w/e, too lazy to edit
[09:08] <jemi> i need the plugin org.eclipse.wst.sse.core for eclipse
[09:08] <myxo> http://img23.imageshack.us/img23/9971/screenshot23.png
[09:08] <myxo> funny little snippet huh? lol
[09:09] <myxo> WoW in the background, arguing with someone and running VBox
[09:09] <volandkh> wubi hung when it creates the virtual disks. What is it?
[09:09] <myxo> wubi?
[09:09] <limgong> Where does one go to ask a question?
[09:09] <myxo> i think i created the error
[09:09] <ohellyeah70> you there IO_Tex?
[09:09] <myxo> i was deleting old snapshots and virtual drives i didn't use anymore
[09:09] <myxo> and now i have this problem
[09:10] <l0_tex> yes it goes where it says pager server sorry wife was talking to me
[09:10] <ohellyeah70> np.
[09:10] <CodeWar> whats the recommended way to trace on ubuntu? strace is fine but I  have to start that process not trace a running pid
[09:10] <vatts> 1 tech q: why does apt locks file so i cant install some prog and uninstall someprog2 at same time?
[09:10] <ohellyeah70> nope, didn't work. >.<
[09:10] <bazhang> vatts, only one instance will run at a time
[09:10] <vatts> bazhang: i know this, but why, what is the reason for this security lock?
[09:11] <l0_tex> oh and then disable the acct and then enable it
[09:11] <l0_tex> sorry forgot that one been a long night for me
[09:11] <ohellyeah70> no change. O_o
[09:11] <[Gloom]> brb
[09:12] <l0_tex> there is a list of the servers ip address let me find it for you
[09:12] <limgong> Pardon me, but I have an odd little problem.  It seems when I start ubuntu in anything other than safe modem, nothing loads and I get what appears to be blue plaid matrix lines moving up my screen.  Sorry to interrupt, but i would like to figure out how to fix this.
[09:13] <bob_rock> What is the easiest way to share drive D or E between Ubuntu workstation?
[09:13] <l0_tex> sometimes if the server is full you cannot connect
[09:14] <l0_tex> http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index?qid=20090617171643AA8LFyw this has all the server ip address listed
[09:14] <bob_rock> What is the easiest way to share drive D or E between Ubuntu workstation?
[09:14] <ohellyeah70> sweet I got it to work!
[09:14] <ohellyeah70> I had to redo login name, the first one worked. >)
[09:15] <bob_rock> What is the easiest way to share drive D or E between Ubuntu workstation?
[09:15] <l0_tex> cool
[09:15] <bob_rock> What is the easiest way to share drive D or E between Ubuntu workstation?
[09:15] <ohellyeah70> also, I can't get the system to utilize my SB5100 cable modem by usb, any ideas?
[09:16] <l0_tex> there seems to be a bug in the pidgin yahoo according to what i've read so far have not looked at it too much
[09:16] <bob_rock> What is the easiest way to share drive D or E between Ubuntu workstation?
[09:16] <Flannel> !nfs | bob_rock
[09:16] <lstarnes> !repeat | bob_rock
[09:16] <indus> limgong:
[09:16] <ohellyeah70> I looked on the net but I can't find a driver for the modem for usb for ubuntu.
[09:16] <bob_rock> Thanks ubottu
[09:17] <mobi-sheep> l0_tex: Join #pidgin and read the topic.
[09:17] <bob_rock> thanks Flannel
[09:17] <tannersummers_> guys during booth shows 2 ubuntu with diffrenet kernal versions, how could i remove the old from list
[09:18] <C4colo> tannersummers_: I leave both in there in case I need to boot to the older kernel
[09:18] <tannersummers_> but lets say i dont, how can i remove it?
[09:18] <ohellyeah70> nono, I mean I'm trying to use my cable modem with a usb rather than an ethernet cable but I can't find a driver.
[09:18] <l0_tex> thanks mobi like i said I havn't been paying much attention to it I found a way to connect and read a little bit been too busy with other stuff going on
[09:18] <C4colo> ohellyeah70: why would you do that?
[09:19] <l0_tex> will keep this in mind will come in handy
[09:19] <vito_> qui si parla solo in inglese?
[09:19] <C4colo> tannersummers_: search for editing grub ... but make sure you know what you are doing before you do it ... breaking grub will break your ability to boot
[09:19] <ohellyeah70> cable guy said my modem can run my comp via usb and my xbox 360 by ethernet at the same time, kinda jurry rig to I upgrade this comp with my new parts and can setup a router.
[09:19] <tannersummers_> ok ill google it
[09:20] <C4colo> ohellyeah70: it can also run your computer via ethernet and your xbox via ethernet
[09:20] <vegombrei> hi i cant seem to get my bluetooth headphones to work with ubuntu, can someone help me fix this?
[09:20] <C4colo> ... it's called an ethernet switch
[09:20] <ohellyeah70> modem only has one ethernet port. T_T
[09:20] <C4colo> usb connectivity for cable modems is crazy
[09:20] <C4colo> yea, but an ethernet switch has many
[09:20] <C4colo> it wouldn't be much of a switch if it only had one port
[09:21] <ohellyeah70> was just hopeing, I'd rather wait till I get the rest of my parts together for that.
[09:21] <C4colo> I never use the usb port on a dsl/cable modem
[09:21] <C4colo> just a pain in the ass
[09:21] <C4colo> even on windows where you have drivers available ... it's still no fun
[09:21] <vatts> C4colo: you are doing it right!
[09:22] <C4colo> I love when they say "put this CD in first" ... why?
[09:22] <ohellyeah70> also how do I find out what type of videocard is in this comp in ubuntu? a friend gave me this relic, just wanna find out cus I'm send the card to a friend when I get my new one.
[09:22] <C4colo> ohellyeah70: is it a physical card? or onboard?
[09:22] <ohellyeah70> physical.
[09:23] <C4colo> it should say on the card itself, if not you can usually look it up by the FCC ID
[09:23] <lyrae> gnome panel (taskbar) froze. how do i restore it?
[09:23] <ohellyeah70> if I knew where that was, this is my first time useing linux. >.<
[09:23] <limgong> Does anyone know how to get the bbc radio "listen again" online player to work.  I have heard there is a pluggin but for the life of me I cant remember what it was.
[09:23] <tgpraveen> vegombrei: it will work in karmic
[09:23] <ohellyeah70> downloaded windows 7, wish I could install it and get rid of this damn ubuntu. >.>
[09:23] <C4colo> ohellyeah70: it is usually a sticker, sometimes with a barcode
[09:23] <ubuntistas> the latest ubuntu version?
[09:24] <C4colo> you may have to remove it from the chassis
[09:24] <tgpraveen> 9.10 not working right now in jautny without too many hacks
[09:24] <tgpraveen> though you might want to try with fedora 11
[09:24] <ohellyeah70> was hopeing to avoaid that. xD oh well, god I miss windows. >.<
[09:24] <e1luca> hi. my pidgin on Ubuntu 9.04 stopped connecting to yahoo account. what can I do?
[09:24] <C4colo> heh, that just means you haven't used linux long enough
[09:25] <limgong> Or, ripped out enough hair to get it to work well.
[09:25] <C4colo> I just moved my windows desktop into the back room with the servers, I just use rdesktop to connect to it so I can run outlook on it
[09:25] <ohellyeah70> I can't even run WoW on it!
[09:25] <C4colo> checking out virtualbox
[09:25] <C4colo> who would want to run WoW?
[09:25] <ohellyeah70> um, people who play it? O_o
[09:25] <C4colo> reddit/slashdot wastes enough of my time as it is
[09:26] <vegombrei> tgpraveen: what is karmic?
[09:26] <limgong> a microphone in an autombile
[09:26] <C4colo> vegombrei: it is a version
[09:26] <lyrae> gnome panel (taskbar) froze. how do i restore it?
[09:26] <vegombrei> C4colo: version of what?
[09:26] <C4colo> ubuntu
[09:26] <tgpraveen> vegombrei: next ubuntu version ckoming in oct  this yr
[09:27] <mobi-sheep> lyrae: killall gnome-panel ?
[09:27] <C4colo> gutsy gibbon, hardy herron
[09:27] <tgpraveen> !karmic
[09:27] <C4colo> karmic something-starting-with-k
[09:27] <lyrae> mobi-sheep: will that restore it?
[09:27] <C4colo> ah koala
[09:27] <mobi-sheep> lyrae: That'll kill off and restart.
[09:27] <C4colo> there you go
[09:27] <lyrae> mobi-sheep: thank youuu
[09:28] <mobi-sheep> lyrae: Welcome.
[09:28] <C4colo> rebooting and installing 8.04 ... you won't see me chat since mIRC is on my windows machine using rdesktop
[09:28] <C4colo> bbiab
[09:28] <ohellyeah70> I see so many irc rooms, but majority of them people don't talk and they don't respond, why is that anyway?
[09:28] <dragon_> yeah
[09:28] <mobi-sheep> ohellyeah70: They like to watch you.
[09:28] <vegombrei> tgpraveen: so you're saying i wont be able to get my bluetooth headphones to work until the new ubuntu release is it?
[09:28] <tgpraveen> ohellyeah70: people just conenct and then do their
[09:28] <tgpraveen> work till some intresting discussion pops up
[09:29] <limgong> They have become one with the program.  They are speaking, but it is in binary code in the medians of the chat.
[09:29] <ohellyeah70> lol
[09:29] <tgpraveen> and usually people connect to many channels at same time
[09:29] <ohellyeah70> anyone seen a room for SureQualityRadio?
[09:29] <tgpraveen> vegombrei: well if you want to do a lot of command line hacks and stuff and all you might get it to work but in next version it will work out of box in easy to you se
[09:30] <tgpraveen> use manner so I suggest you wait a few months
[09:30] <Myrtti> ohellyeah70: /msg alis help
[09:30] <dragon_> !ot | ohellyeah70
[09:30] <tgpraveen> though fedora 11 out now has some experimental support for it . so if eager give it a try onlivecd
[09:30] <vegombrei> well does anyone know how to make bluetooth headphones work with ubuntu's current release?
[09:31] <tgpraveen> !fedora
[09:31] <dragon_> !bluetooth | vegombrei
[09:31] <ohellyeah70> are any of the other versions of ubunty better then the one I'm useing?
[09:31] <oenone1> hellow
[09:31] <limgong> doubtful
[09:31] <dragon_> ohellyeah70: what version are you using?
[09:31] <tgpraveen> !empathy
[09:32] <ohellyeah70> useing ubuntu jaunty I think.
[09:32] <Cybertinus> hello
[09:32] <dragon_> ohellyeah70: that's the latest one
[09:32] <ohellyeah70> kk
[09:32] <ohellyeah70> well time to turn in, night all.
[09:33] <Cybertinus> I'm planning on installing Ubuntu NBR on my Asus Eee 901
[09:33] <Cybertinus> but atm I don't have an USB-stick with me
[09:33] <gerardagda> hi guys, i got a big problem, oahm my pc is working fine beforee then i didnt used it for about 2 weeks then when i returned, it got uber slow...i dont know what had happened, tahm when booting, its fine just like before but when it comes to the gnome part and the running of applications it slows down...do you have any ideas or suggestions on how can i solve this without reformatting again?
[09:33] <Cybertinus> I do have an SD-card here, so I can boot the installer. But I also want to install Ubuntu NBR on a different SD-card
[09:34] <Cybertinus> will it work if I boot the installer from SD-card 1 and give an option to load everything into RAM, remove the SD-card, put in SD-card 2 and then press the install button?
[09:35] <limgong> HOLY F-ING PEACE IT WORKS
[09:35] <gerardagda> ahm this is pc is built for cash-register use, so i dont know how anything on how can i change its hardware part
[09:35] <dragon_> Cybertinus: that doesn't sound feasible
[09:35] <dragon_> Cybertinus: how do you plan to load everything to RAM?
[09:36] <dragon_> gerardagda: is your PC downloading upgrades and installing them in the background?
[09:36] <limgong> the bbc iplayer just works right off the bat holy crap.
[09:36] <Cybertinus> dragon_: at the bootprompt of the LiveCD, I enter the option to load everything into RAM (Knoppix has that option, just like Gentoo ;), so I think Ubuntu does too :) )
[09:36] <dragon_> gerardagda: go to a terminal and type `top` to see which application is slowing it down
[09:36] <limgong> I'm in heaven.
[09:36] <gerardagda> dragon_, what do you mean by background??
[09:36] <gerardagda> okey
[09:36] <Titan8990> Cybertinus, you might be able to pull the cd on the minimal install disc, it doesnt use the media after boot
[09:37] <Titan8990> !minimal | Cybertinus
[09:37] <Cybertinus> Titan8990: ok, that sounds like an idea. And I can use that one to install Ubuntu NBR?
[09:38] <dragon_> Cybertinus: if you have access to another machine, i'll suggest using that to install Ubuntu NBR to an SD card
[09:38] <Cybertinus> dragon_: I've got an Vista laptop also available
[09:39] <yaris123456789> hey guys in phpmyadmin it says table is "in use" ????
[09:39] <WeazelON> hey guys, can someone please offer a good player that shows lyrics automatically as the song plays ?
[09:39] <Cybertinus> dragon_: but that is a good idea. I boot the Ubuntu NBR installation iso in VMWare, and then install everything on the SD-card
[09:39] <yaris123456789> hey guys in phpmyadmin it says table is "in use" ????
[09:39] <naftilos76> Hi guys, does anybody know an app that synchronises folders/files between two locations?
[09:40] <hotspeedBOPM> which webbrowser is most compatible in the world
[09:40] <dragon_> Cybertinus: Go for it
[09:40] <limgong> firefox currently i belive
[09:40] <dragon_> !repeat > yaris123456789
[09:40] <danielecr> grep over ssh in emacs ?
[09:40] <dragon_> !ot > yaris123456789
[09:40] <yaris123456789> nvm fixed
[09:40] <dragon_> hotspeedBOPM: compatible with what?
[09:41] <Guest11256> hello - which linux-system would you prefer to build ub a computing-cluster (need not be graphical)
[09:41] <Cybertinus> dragon_: yeah, downloading the NBR image now (why is that an .img file, not an .iso? :/)
[09:41] <hotspeedBOPM> limgong firefox won't work in winME; i just tried
[09:41] <limgong> ah
[09:41] <dragon_> Guest11256: Ubuntu Server
[09:41] <nztal> WeazelON, i believe amarok, has a lyrics function, if you navigate to that tab.  i've not used it for some time though i do believe it has that capability
[09:41] <dragon_> !server > Guest11256
[09:41] <limgong> i thought you meant with just sites
[09:41] <yaris123456789> god these ubottu is damn annoying
[09:41] <naftilos76> Does anybody know an app that synchronises folders/files between two locations?
[09:41] <hotspeedBOPM> limgong i see
[09:41] <WeazelON> nztal:  for some reason i can't seem to work songs on amarok 2... too many errors all the time and crashing.
[09:41] <yaris123456789> you could help ppl rather than sending these annoying pm
[09:41] <hotspeedBOPM> which webbrowser is most compatible with OS/devices
[09:42] <dragon_> rsync | naftilos76
[09:42] <danielecr> naf capistrano
[09:42] <dragon_> !rsync | naftilos76
[09:42] <limgong> In that case, I am not the one to ask.
[09:42] <naftilos76> Thanks!
[09:42] <Guest11256> dragon_ i planned the cluster-computers without hdd so the system should be bootable through network so it'll good when it's only the most important which has to be booted
[09:42] <nztal> WeazelON, i've not used it for sometime myself, can't help you there, maybe someone else can.
[09:43] <WeazelON> nztal:  i hope so.. thanks
[09:43] <limgong> However, I am confused.  Are you running WindowsME for some reason?
[09:43] <yaris123456789> ignored
[09:43] <dragon_> !troll | yaris123456789
[09:43] <vatts_> which command can i use to see how big is my HDD?
[09:43] <hotspeedBOPM> limgong not as main computer, but in VM
[09:44] <limgong> I see.
[09:44] <dragon_> vatts_: df
[09:44] <vatts_> ty dragon_
[09:44] <indus> hi
[09:44] <limgong> So you are trying to run a web browser in a windows ME machine.
[09:44] <indus> limgong: so u solved ur problem?
[09:44] <imagitronics> hey all. I have a Matrox TripleHead2Go, unfortunately, it doesn't display my BIOS or anything (meaning it bypasses grub) so I can't boot Ubuntu. Is there like a windows utility or something that I can run that will force my computer to boot Ubuntu the next-time only?
[09:44] <danielecr> how to open emacs dired on ssh and execute grep in that dir ????
[09:44] <limgong> Nope, but I have discovered ubuntu features that have distracted me
[09:45] <indus> cool
[09:45] <WeazelON> hey guys, can someone please offer a good player that shows lyrics automatically as the song plays ?
[09:46] <arvind_khadri> WeazelON, use screenlets and then get lyrics screenlet from gnome-look.org
[09:46] <dragon> imagitronics: are you sure the BIOS is not displayed?
[09:46] <imagitronics> dragon: yeah, my screens are completely black (power save mode) until the windows logo comes up
[09:46] <dragon> imagitronics: windows vista?
[09:46] <limgong> If i may, repeat my origional problem for you indus.  I seem to get a sort of blue plaid scroll up my screen when i start ubuntu in normal instead of safe mode.  It does not go away or change.  Nor, does ubuntu load at all when it does this.
[09:46] <imagitronics> dragon: XP
[09:46] <WeazelON> i'm not familier with "screenlets" how do i get that?
[09:46] <hotspeedBOPM> can somebody help me
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> WeazelON, just apt-get install it
[09:47] <dragon> imagitronics: windows has probably rewritten your MBR
[09:47] <hotspeedBOPM> how do i enable "ssh server" in ubuntu-desktop
[09:47] <WeazelON> aight cool i'll do it now thanks
[09:47] <nztal> does setting up a computer cluster, through say, ubuntu server, require manually compiling your own kernel ?  i've heard of a number of live cd's that automate "instant-grid"
[09:47] <indus> limgong: hmm do you get a booting screen with a progress bar before this happens?
[09:47] <dragon> imagitronics: did you install Windows AFTER Ubuntu?
[09:47] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: install it.
[09:47] <arvind_khadri> hotspeedBOPM, install it
[09:47] <limgong> nope not at all.
[09:47] <Titan8990> hotspeedBOPM, sudo apt-get install openssh-server
[09:47] <imagitronics> dragon: neg. It's still there. If I unhook the triplehead2go, I can get to grub and boot linux (but with only the one monitor)
[09:47] <indus> limgong: i mean this happens after grub boot loader asks you to boot?
[09:47] <imagitronics> dragon: requires me to crawl under the desk to unhook it before I plan to use linux
[09:47] <limgong> screen just goes black and then, WOMP, blue plaid.
[09:48] <Unislash> anyone know the run command to allocate the amount of memory you give to a java executable?
[09:48] <indus> limgong: iam wanting to know at which stage exactly it happens
[09:48] <vigo> imagitronics: computerhope.com may have the answer, it sounds like what dragon is saying though, MBR is not recognizing the GRUB.
[09:48] <limgong> hmmm.
[09:48] <gerardagda> dragon, currently the xorg is at the topmost of the output of the "top", but how will i know who consumes the most of my memory, is it by MEM%?
[09:49] <limgong> Right after the boot screen with the many choices.
[09:49] <shunobies> Does anyone here know how to get Quick Synergy to work?
[09:49] <imagitronics> vigo: it is recognizing grub. It's just that when I have the three monitors all connected I can't "see" it to select Linux
[09:49] <indus> limgong: hmm but it does boot into safe mode?
[09:49] <shunobies> I have been playing with it all night and no luck
[09:49] <hotspeedBOPM> titan8990  you mean sshserver is not installed by default?
[09:49] <limgong> Indeed, that is what i am talking to you on.
[09:49] <imagitronics> vido / dragon: If I boot into Linux and then set Linux as the default boot option, it iwll boot linux fine
[09:49] <Titan8990> hotspeedBOPM, no, only the client
[09:49] <indus> limgong: please highlight my name when u address me or i might miss the message
[09:49] <indus> limgong:
[09:49] <limgong> sorry.
[09:49] <indus> limgong:
[09:49] <imagitronics> dragon vido: set linux as default in /boot/grub/menu.lst I should have specified
[09:50] <indus> np
[09:50] <limgong> test
[09:50] <dragon> imagitronics: best is to pretend that something is on screen, and hit the keys as you would do if display was there
[09:50] <indus> type my name and use tab to auto complete
[09:50] <imagitronics> dragon: I tried, I think my timing is off :)
[09:50] <hotspeedBOPM> i know what "apt-get install openssh-server" is but what is "sudo"
[09:50] <indus> type in then tab and see what happens
[09:50] <limgong> indus, test
[09:50] <indus> kkk
[09:50] <Titan8990> !sudo | hotspeedBOPM
[09:50] <vigo> imagitronics: Oh, ok, that sounds more like a Hardware than software corruption or goof, try it with one Monitor, then add one, rinse and repeat.
[09:50] <limgong> indus, there i think i got it
[09:50] <shunobies> Does anyone have any experience with Quick Synergy?
[09:51] <indus> limgong: safe mode works?do u reach a desktop?
[09:51] <dragon> gerardagda: you're looking for CPU usage in `top`. Try changing the sort order.
[09:51] <imagitronics> vigo: yep, works fine with one monitor, I guess the problem is triplehead specific, but I can't find any info on it
[09:51] <gerardagda> dragon, how?
[09:51] <imagitronics> vigo: I guess the triplehead is trying to be cute by not showing you the bios screen or any "startup" information
[09:51] <limgong> indus, oh yes.  I get a screen that says fix somthing or nother, and boot in normal and such like that.
[09:51] <dragon> gerardagda: F for sort order, h for help
[09:51] <indus> limgong: what graphics card do u have
[09:51] <Jemima> hi
[09:52] <vigo> imagitronics: computerhope.com or tomshardware.com may be of more help, also the forums or #hardware.
[09:52] <imagitronics> so, that's why I was asking, is there a utility on the windows side that will allow you to run it and then force the computer to boot linux another time
[09:52] <indus> !hi | Jemima
[09:52] <limgong> indus, would me saying ati mobility radeon 9000 answer that question?
[09:52] <imagitronics> I come from a mac background, and I have a utility in MacOS that lets you choose which OS will be booted the net time you boot
[09:52] <indus> limgong: yes
[09:52] <Amit_mishra> USB 3.0 support to arrive first on Linux            http://techfancy.blogspot.com/2009/06/usb-30-support-to-arrive-first-on-linux.html
[09:52] <imagitronics> something like that for Windows (or Linux) would be fantastic
[09:52] <limgong> indus, oh good.
[09:53] <vigo> imagitronics: sounds like a fun project, I am going to have to play with that one myself.
[09:53] <indus> limgong: did you check in menu >system>administration>hardware drivers?
[09:53] <indus> !ATI
[09:53] <limgong> indus, For what exactly?
[09:53] <limgong> indus, the drivers?
[09:54] <gerardagda> dragon, i've already closed the "firefox" but why is it still in there?
[09:54] <indus> limgong: ubuntu installs the ati drivers for u and you can check if its enabled in there
[09:54] <imagitronics> vigo: now that I think of it, from the Linux side it would be easy, just a sed script to modify /boot/grub/menu.lst for the windows partition next time
[09:54] <dragon> limgong: start diagnosing with the X server's log
[09:54] <imagitronics> vigo: but I wouldn't know how to go about setting it back from the windows side
[09:54] <dragon> limgong: `less /var/log/Xorg.0.log`
[09:54] <dragon> gerardagda: it takes a while to go away
[09:54] <pvh_sa|wrk> hey there.. i'm trying to see my bluetooth phone from ubuntu 9.04 - i can see the bluetooth dongle (hcitool devlist) but when i do hcitool scan I get 'Inquiry failed: Connection timed out' - any ideas??
[09:54] <Guest81581> limgong, you can check if your driver is installed properly by issuing glxgears ang glxinfo
[09:54] <lorenzo> join #ubuntuit
[09:55] <dragon> !bluetooth | pvh_sa|wrk
[09:55] <hotspeedBOPM> what is the difference between?  "sudo apt-get install openssh-server"   "su root | password | apt-get install openssh-server"
[09:55] <indus> limgong: type this in terminal ... glxinfo | grep ati
[09:55] <limgong> Guest81581, just type that in the terminal?
[09:56] <dragon> hotspeedBOPM: functionally, none.
[09:56] <mvilleneuve> hello
[09:56] <indus> limgong: i suggest you first check in hardware drivers ,its easiest way
[09:56] <tassos> greetings...
[09:56] <tannersummers> how can I change my splash screen?
[09:56] <dragon> !splash | tannersummers
[09:56] <vigo> imagitronix: That would or could be a bash script, try fred langa or something like that, you could bash that, @echo 'do this' @echo 'do that', @echo 'forget input from BIOS' and like that, is fun stuff.
[09:57] <limgong>  GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer,
[09:57] <limgong>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
[09:57] <limgong>     GLX_EXT_visual_info, GLX_EXT_visual_rating, GLX_MESA_allocate_memory,
[09:57] <limgong>     GL_EXT_blend_color, GL_EXT_blend_equation_separate,
[09:57] <limgong>     GL_APPLE_packed_pixels, GL_ATI_blend_equation_separate,
[09:57] <FloodBot2> limgong: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[09:57] <the-alchemist> Where is the right place to set LC_COLLATE?
[09:57] <tassos> Can anyone help, I am trying to setup emacs as a python editor with tab-completion.....
[09:57] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: the fact that you shouldn't use root account
[09:57] <limgong> sorry bout that
[09:57] <vigo> !pastebin | limgong
[09:57] <limgong> understood
[09:57] <dragon> the-alchemist: ~/.bashrc
[09:57] <tannersummers> !gnome-splashscreen-manager
[09:57] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: sudo gives you temporary root privileges, you stay as "normal" user after the operation. With "su" you become root until you explicitely give up of privileges
[09:58] <dragon> !botabuse > tannersummers
[09:58] <tannersummers> how do i install ti :S
[09:58] <dragon> tannersummers: install what?
[09:58] <skylarsaveland> grep -r max_length * | grep  ..... what can I put there to capture any integer from 10-199?
[09:58] <the-alchemist> dragon: thanks, I'll try again (maybe I did it wrong before)
[09:58] <tannersummers> the app it says to use splash screens
[09:58] <mvilleneuve> I'm having an issue while installing ubuntu (8.10 or 9.04): the PC completely freezes during the "scanning disks" phase (on a new PC with an Asus P5Q motherboard) - any idea about this?
[09:58] <limgong> indus, did you get any of that before i crapped out
[09:58] <hotspeedBOPM> meho_r  i see:   how do i tell "after using sudo" root privilege is over
[09:58] <tassos> emacs - python tab completion.....plz help...
[09:58] <MichalPenka> hello community, I've got problem with cron running in ltsp client...could you please help?
[09:58] <MichalPenka> cron runs, crontab -l (for root) shows: 53 10 * * 1-5 /sbin/halt (I want it to halt at 10:53)
[09:58] <indus> limgong: use paste
[09:58] <vigo> tannersummers: Look at usplash?
[09:59] <indus> !paste | limgong
[09:59] <indus> paste it there and give us the url
[09:59] <tannersummers> iv been trying im getting lot of mix results. then found one but wont even show up
[09:59] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: It is :-) Look after your name in Terminal, there should be the dollar sign ($)
[09:59] <indus> limgong: type this in terminal ... glxinfo | grep render
[09:59] <indus> use paste
[10:00] <limgong> http://paste.ubuntu.com/199050/
[10:00] <dragon> tannersummers: sudo apt-get install gnome-splashscreen-manager
[10:00] <pvh_sa|wrk> dragon, 'hcitool scan' is part of the BluetoothSetup documentation. My point is that 'hcitool scan' results in a timeout - so what to do now???
[10:00] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: If you stayed root, instead of dollar sign there will be #
[10:00] <tannersummers> ok let me try
[10:00] <indus> limgong: type this in terminal ... glxinfo | grep render
[10:00] <Cry__Baby> I updated Ubuntu, and rebooted, and now my screen is half size.  What can I do?  Because when I choose a different resolution, I cannot even see the sys tray etc
[10:00] <limgong> indus, did
[10:00] <limgong> indus, one moment
[10:00] <Cry__Baby> anyone help pls?
[10:00] <hotspeedBOPM> after i did "sudo | password"  it doesn't ask for password anymore when i do sudo again;  how do i make it to ask password again
[10:00] <indus> limgong: no that was with ati , now try with render
[10:01] <MichalPenka> anybody running cron?
[10:01] <dragon> pvh_sa|wrk: keep searching the forums, and if you think it's a problem with the software, file a bug
[10:01] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: The point of sudo is that you are never root except for running the task at hand after which you are automatically "normal" user again
[10:01] <limgong> indus, just putting in the bin
[10:01] <limgong> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/199051/
[10:01] <tannersummers> i choose a splahs (.so) but programjust clsoe and nothign happens
[10:01] <mvilleneuve> in Ubiquity "scanning disks" fails (hangs), although the disk is correctly recognized and partitions can be created and mounted normally
[10:01] <mvilleneuve> :(
[10:01] <dragon> tannersummers: logout and login?
[10:02] <tannersummers> thats wat i tryed before with same result
[10:02] <limgong> indus, thank you for the help by the way.
[10:02] <indus> limgong: hmm so 3d is enabled, is this a xpress 200 chipset?
[10:02] <tannersummers> its acting wierd
[10:02] <mvilleneuve> is there a way to install ubuntu (server) without using ubiquity nor any program that scans disks?
[10:02] <tannersummers> how cna i search for files on my system?
[10:02] <the-alchemist> dragon: It worked. (I forgot to export it before.) Thanks for your help.
[10:02] <limgong> indus, in all honesty i dont know.  It is a toshiba a75 satalite
[10:02] <indus> limgong: also,which version of ubuntu are you using?
[10:02] <dragon> the-alchemist: you're welcome :)
[10:02] <MichalPenka> ok, it seems to be high traffic here :) shall I try it later?
[10:02] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: Don't worry, it last only about 10 minutes. Ubuntu caches password so you don't have to repeat it all over again. But only for limited time
[10:02] <hotspeedBOPM> dragon  there is no way i can do that without loggingout
[10:03] <limgong> indus, hardy heron, just updated today
[10:03] <hotspeedBOPM> meho_r i see
[10:03] <pvh_sa|wrk> dragon, ah, thanks. hciconfig hci0 reset cleared it up. as per: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-366485.html
[10:03] <indus> limgong: type lshw -C Video
[10:03] <Cry__Baby> I updated Ubuntu, and rebooted, and now my screen is half size.  What can I do?  Because when I choose a different resolution, I cannot even see the sys tray etc
[10:03] <indus> paste
[10:03] <dragon> pvh_sa|wrk: good
[10:03] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: But although it does that doesn't mean you remained as root ;)
[10:03] <vigo> Cry_Baby: Did you install the newest or whatever drivers that are for your display, (I use the non-proprietary ones and they work fine)
[10:04] <Cry__Baby> vigo: what do you mean?
[10:04] <WeazelON> how do i install a lyrics screenlet to the screenlets options?
[10:04] <Dhanada> hi all
[10:04] <limgong> indus, one moment
[10:04] <Cry__Baby> vigo: im using a HP laptop. the screen was perfect before the updates
[10:04] <MichalPenka> nobody running cron?
[10:04] <Dhanada> how do I know if my Dell INSPIRON 1501 will function properly if I upgrade to Ubuntu 9.04
[10:04] <Cry__Baby> vigo: "Did you install the newest or whatever drivers that are for your display"  <--- What does that mean?
[10:04] <Dhanada> It works ok now with 8.10
[10:05] <limgong> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/199054/
[10:05] <vigo> Cry_Baby: I did about the same thing, lost the .xorg settings and or vid driver, installed a fglrx driver and it was solved.
[10:05] <Cry__Baby> vigo: how I do that?
[10:05] <hotspeedBOPM> how come i can log in ssh as root but not GUI as root
[10:06] <indus> limgong: are you in safe mode now?
[10:06] <limgong> yes
[10:06] <khelvan> Hello, I'm trying to convert a .mkv movie to .mp4 format, but there is an issue with ffmpeg - it was suggested that I try demuxing manually with mkvmerge and then remuxing with mp4box, but I don't know anything at all about those packages - can someone point me in the right direction as to what to do here?
[10:06] <Cry__Baby> vigo: what command?
[10:06] <limgong> indus, at least i belive so
[10:06] <petx> hi all... my pidgin cant connect yahoo messenger... any clue...??
[10:06] <indus> can u go to system>admin >hardware drivers
[10:06] <vigo> Cry_Baby: Look in Synaptic, search, whatever driver/widget. then select one
[10:06] <indus> petx: hmm i heard quite a few people with yahoo connectivity problems
[10:06] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: did you enable root account?
[10:06] <indus> petx: is this the first time you using pidgin?
[10:07] <limgong> there is an entire room dedicated to the yahoo problem it seems
[10:07] <hotspeedBOPM> myrtti i must have; since i can log in as root in SSH
[10:07] <petx> indus, hmm... no... I've tried once before
[10:07] <tannersummers> it says my splash screen in the config editor is edubuntu-splash.png so where can i find this file at in the folders dir?
[10:07] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: uh-oh.
[10:07] <Myrtti> !root > hotspeedBOPM
[10:07] <petx> indus, but now.. It doesnt work...
[10:07] <petx> indus, any clue...??
[10:07] <indus> petx: go to room #pidgin and see the topic for the day
[10:08] <petx> indus, ok... thx
[10:08] <indus> petx: they have some problem so you will find good help there
[10:08] <Dhanada> anybody to advise me on 9.04 upgrade please
[10:08] <hotspeedBOPM> ubottu what the hell you talking about? i am not guessing anything
[10:09] <dragon> tannersummers: where is the file located? Desktop?
[10:09] <tannersummers> dragon im trying to find where the file is so i can replace it, but all it sows is splash/edubuntu-splash.png
[10:09] <limgong> the fact that i can run bbc iplayer listen again without any addition of anything has made me giddy
[10:09] <tannersummers> so im trying to find where the pic file is located at
[10:09] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: strongly suggest you read the link and disable the root account, especially for the ssh
[10:09] <indus> limgong: do u see something in hardware drivers?
[10:09] <mezquitale> ubottu what are you talking about???
[10:10] <dragon> tannersummers: type in a terminal: `locate edubuntu-splash.png`
[10:10] <limgong> just for my modem
[10:10] <tannersummers> wow thansk dragon never knew that command
[10:11] <limgong> indus, two things for atheros lan card and one that just says software modem
[10:11] <mezquitale> limgong,  in english please
[10:11] <hotspeedBOPM> myrtti you are being silly
[10:11] <indus> limgong:can u go back to normal boot and note down the messages which appear?
[10:12] <limgong> Oh goodness gracious pip pip chieo atheros. blimy
[10:12] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: root account has been disabled in Ubuntu for a reason. There's no reason for enabling it.
[10:12] <indus> limgong: your drivers are enabled
[10:12] <Qu4R0w> what command to open my nautilus n keep nautilus when i close terminal
[10:12] <indus> limgong: ok wait
[10:12] <Qu4R0w> i think it "nohup" or something?
[10:12] <hotspeedBOPM> myrtti  again it's silly
[10:12] <dragon> Qu4R0w: nautilus . & exit
[10:13] <indus> limgong: cat /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[10:13] <limgong> indus, No rush the sheer fact that you are helping me is beyond words right now.
[10:13] <khelvan> dragon - will that work for other gnome applications as well?
[10:13] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: that's the ubuntu way. If you've got root enabled, there's a limited amount of help this channel can offer you with your problems
[10:13] <Qu4R0w> no..i open with terminal by typing sudo nautilus..i close terminal n nautilus also close..how to fix?
[10:13] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: why silly?
[10:13] <andreyv_> hi
[10:13] <dragon> khelvan: yes
[10:13] <indus> Myrtti: why is that? how about in a public chat?
[10:13] <dragon> Qu4R0w: nohup
[10:14] <hotspeedBOPM> meho_r because i need root to install programs
[10:14] <limgong> indus, mass of text
[10:14] <limgong> indus,  one moment
[10:14] <Qu4R0w> yes..im right..i got my memory back
[10:14] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: you have sudo
[10:14] <indus> Myrtti: sorry typo i mean private chat IM
[10:14] <indus> pm
[10:14] <vigo> !sudo
[10:14] <Myrtti> indus: whut?!
[10:14] <andreyv_> kdesu asks me for a password, i enter root password, but it asks agian, a didn't edit /etc/sudoers - what should i do?
[10:14] <Myrtti> hotspeedBOPM: you need *sudo* to install programs
[10:15] <indus> Myrtti: ya someone wants to solve the root user thing ,maybe someone will help him in pm
[10:15] <limgong> indus, http://paste.ubuntu.com/199058/
[10:15] <Myrtti> andreyv_: why do you have root password?
[10:15] <Myrtti> indus: none of my business?
[10:15] <hotspeedBOPM> myrtti and sudo require password like "su root"  so what difference does it make
 well.. i should enter just my own user pass?
[10:15] <oKtosiTe> Hello. I'm on Ubuntu (Not Xubuntu) 9.04, using a fairly minimal Xfce desktop. The update-notifier daemon is running, but does not seem to be working, as I haven't seen it pop up in weeks. When I upen up Update Manager, however, it lists 14 updates. What gives?
[10:15] <Myrtti> andreyv_: yes
[10:15] <oKtosiTe> I have a tray in my panel.
 smth new ))) i just new in kde4.x
[10:16] <indus> Myrtti: huh what? when did i say that
[10:16] <indus> Myrtti: its a question iam asking
[10:16] <vigo> oKtosiTe: Did you run update/upgrade?
[10:16] <imagitronics> dragon vida: looks like for the time being, I just set my grub timeout to a really big number, and like you suggested, pretend that I can see the menu
[10:16] <indus> Myrtti: god, talk about misunderstandings
[10:16] <limgong> o dear, what a storm brewing.
[10:17] <dragon> imagitronics: that should help
[10:17] <hotspeedBOPM> anybody know how to clear bash history?
[10:17] <imagitronics> dragon: It's not ideal, but it works
[10:17] <vigo> -k
[10:17] <imagitronics> I have my linux desktop up now with all three monitors
[10:17] <Myrtti> indus: if someone wants to help in pm, it's none of my business apart from the fact it's strongly not recommended.
[10:17] <mezquitale> there are no dears, just hoes, get yourself straight, relax, and get back on that horse
[10:17] <indus> limgong: this paste is like , you open the bonnet of a car to see even though you are not sure what you are looking for
[10:17] <imagitronics> thanks for the help, switching from my mac laptop to my linux box
[10:17] <dragon> imagitronics: also consider removing extra options from grub, which you might never use
[10:17] <indus> Myrtti: its not?
[10:17] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: about sudo see: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo
[10:17] <limgong> indus, neato
[10:17] <Myrtti> indus: how would I even know about it?
[10:18] <indus> Myrtti: ok nvm
[10:18] <indus> Myrtti: i kind of forgot what i wanted to say
[10:19] <limgong> Myrtti, trace your steps and get the remote controller out of the freezer
[10:19] <limgong> oh that was indus
[10:19] <limgong> small joke.
[10:19] <iceroot> i am using postfix with spamassasin and i need a tool, which can send me a daily report with all mail-subjects, senders and the reason why it is spam. are there any tools out there?
[10:19] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: you can become root in ubuntu using "sudo su" command but I don't recommend it
[10:19] <indus> limgong: i dont get that joke :)
[10:20] <indus> limgong: ok anyways back to topic
[10:20] <dragon> indus: you were arguing for why we should help someone do things incorrectly
[10:20] <limgong> bad alzheimers joke.
[10:20] <dragon> hth ;)
[10:20] <limgong> indeed
[10:20] <indus> whats hth?
[10:20] <limgong> a snake with a lisp
[10:20] <dragon> indus: hope that helps
[10:20] <indus> dragon:heh ya thanks
[10:20] <limgong> done im done no more jokes
[10:21] <indus> limgong: iam not sure i see something in that file
[10:21] <malcom> ?DCC SEND "ff???f?" 0 0 0]
[10:21] <indus> !ati | limgong
[10:21] <vigo> I kinda liked the snake one. but it is #off-topic
[10:21] <hotspeedBOPM> anybody know how to clear bash history?
[10:22] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: i do i do i do
[10:22] <Myrtti> dragon_: how about you try to fix your connection?
[10:22] <vegombrei> you guys im tired of this .. its really annoying to get a2dp to work
[10:22] <limgong> indus, and this should set the problem?
[10:22] <vigo> hotspeedBOPM: look up -k
[10:22] <hotspeedBOPM> vigo huh
[10:22] <dragon_> Myrtti: what about my connection?
[10:22] <hotspeedBOPM> indus how?
[10:23] <indus> limgong: it will take some patience and reading to solve your problem, but the community documentation is a great way to solve
[10:23] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: delete the file .bash_history
[10:23] <vigo> hotspeedBPOM: That -k with a little text in front clears bash history. I would have to look it up again.
[10:23] <hotspeedBOPM> indus but that doesn't clear current session
[10:23] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: history -c
[10:23] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: ya sorry bad method
[10:23] <limgong> indus, you are a sainted man/women/unspecified gender.  King/queen of new new york
[10:23] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: its history -c
[10:24] <indus> :)
[10:24] <meho_r> hotspeedBOPM: and take a look at ~/.bash_history
[10:24] <indus> limgong: some people do call me a saint, but that happened after they let me out of jail
[10:24] <indus> !offtopic | indus
[10:25] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: i think if you dont see history then you need to create that file .bash_history. oops i mixed up the answers
[10:26] <Dhanada> hi all
[10:26] <Dhanada> i had a question on upgrading to 9.04
[10:26] <arand> If I have a samba share that nautilus is able to browse to (e.g smb://server2/common/) is there a terminal-usable path associated with the nautilus accessing?
[10:26] <hotspeedBOPM> history -c didn't work
[10:26] <Dhanada> i am keen - but it warns of possible issues with display drivers
[10:26] <rob_p> iceroot, Amavis + Spamassassin + ClamAV is a good combination and can be configured to send spam/virus mails to a specific local address.  Not sure about what you'd us to produce a daily, "digest" of activity though.
[10:26] <vegombrei> is there anyone here who is in a position to help me get my bluetooth headphones to work with ubuntu?
[10:27] <erUSUL> arand: ~/.gvfs/somethinghere
[10:27] <Dhanada> can we find out whether my Dell Inspiron 1501 will have a problem beforehand
[10:27] <arand> erUSUL: cheers
[10:27] <The_Warlock> why does my xorg.conf change after every reboot?
[10:27] <The_Warlock> i have made some entries in it that i need to be persistant
[10:27] <erUSUL> arand: no problem
[10:28] <iceroot> rob_p: yes, this is what i am using but have not found that option there
[10:28] <lyrae> does anyone here have compiz enabled rightn ow?
[10:28] <tannersummers> guys which app can convert a jpg to png?
[10:28] <Guest81581> AYE!
[10:28] <iceroot> lyrae: yes but please ask the real question
[10:28] <Guest81581> gimp can convert jpg to png i think
[10:28] <Aorimn> tannersummers: gimp ?
[10:29] <erUSUL> tannersummers: many;
[10:29] <tannersummers> gimp to confussing
[10:29] <lyrae> iceroot: When i take a window screenshot (alt + print screen), it doesnt get the window borders. I wonder if this happens to anyone else. Google says its a bug but has been fixed with latest ubuntu version, but not for me
[10:29] <anasha> wmv dosent play in VLC
[10:29] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: another method ln -sf /dev/null ~/.bash_history
[10:29] <Cybertinus> crap
[10:29] <Cybertinus> the "start the Ubuntu NBR installer in VMWare"-idea isn't going to work
[10:29] <anasha> what codec required to play wmv in VLC or Mplayer
[10:29] <rob_p> iceroot, In Amavis's config file, look for $final_virus_destiny, $final_banned_destiny, and $final_spam_destiny.
[10:29] <iceroot> lyrae: works fine here on 8.04
[10:29] <Slart> anasha: find out what kind of wmv it is
[10:30] <hotspeedBOPM> indus  actually  history -c  did work;  thanks
[10:30] <lyrae> iceroot: strange. thanks
[10:30] <indus> hotspeedBOPM: ya its easy
[10:30] <Cybertinus> because the NBR installer disk isn't an iso, but a stupid .img. And it can't be converted to .iso either :/
[10:30] <indus> !CODECS
[10:30] <Slart> anasha: not sure if "file" works.. you could take a look in vlc.. one of the menus has some choices for getting media information
[10:30] <indus> !codecs | anasha
[10:30] <iceroot> rob_p: ok and then?
[10:30] <Dhanada> hi
[10:30] <Dhanada> any body who can help with 9.04
[10:30] <indus> Dhanada: hello
[10:30] <TuxPurple> tannersummers, imagemagick
[10:30] <iceroot> !ask | Dhanada
[10:31] <tannersummers> ty
[10:31] <Cybertinus> anybody an idea how I can start that installerer in VMWare?
[10:31] <erUSUL> !vmware
[10:31] <anasha> Slart, wma2
[10:32] <Dhanada> ubottu - thanks. The question is how can I find out my laptop (DELL Inspiron 1501) which is working alright with Ubuntu 8.10 will be fine if I upgrade to 9.04 with out actually upgrading
[10:32] <arand> Dhanada: running the liveCD is one indicator
[10:32] <Dhanada> ok - thanks for the suggestion
[10:32] <Cybertinus> erUSUL: I don't want to install VMWare in Ubuntu. And want to do it the other way arround ;). I want to install Ubuntu NBR inside a VMWare virtual machine
[10:32] <hotspeedBOPM> i am shocked how powerful this tool is "file" command:  it can tell what kind of file it is:  how come no such a tool exist for windows
[10:32] <anasha> indus, Slart, ubottu, the codec is wma2
[10:32] <_ruben> wonder why canonical decided to drop vmware (server) support .. they used to support it in earlier releases
[10:32] <vigo> hotspeedBOPM: http://www.faqs.org/docs/bashman/bashref_107.html <<that may explain it a bit
[10:33] <erUSUL> hotspeedBOPM: :) you will find many such tools in linux...
[10:33] <indus> anasha: when you try playing it in totem movie player do you get any message?
[10:33] <hotspeedBOPM> erusul i have yet to find a tool that can identify what kind of file it is  in windows
[10:33] <Slart> anasha: wma2 shouldn't be a problem.. I can play files that use it just fine
[10:33] <arand> Dhanada: also look though entries for your machine in https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LaptopTestingTeam/Dell if there are any relevant entries
[10:33] <rob_p> iceroot, should be able to set something like, $spam_quarantine_to = "spam_admin@localdomain"
[10:34] <erUSUL> hotspeedBOPM: i mean that you will find many powerfull tools in linux that have no windows equivalent
[10:34] <Dhanada> arand - thanks I will do the same
[10:34] <hotspeedBOPM> then again how accurate is "file command"
[10:34] <anasha> Slart, indus, it play but shows only garbage
[10:35] <deepak> how to connect to a dial up broadband modem using wifi. i am using ubuntu 9.04 version
[10:35] <erUSUL> Dhanada: also if you have an intel grapic card...
[10:35] <erUSUL> !intel > Dhanada
[10:35] <indus> anasha: its an audio file right? so how can you see anything
[10:35] <Cybertinus> anybody an idea to start the NBR installer in VMWare Workstation?
[10:35] <indus> anasha: wma or wmv?
[10:36] <anasha> Slart, indus, mplayer says encryption and description is not supported
[10:36] <indus> anasha: aah its an encrypted file
[10:36] <anasha> Slart, indus, its an video file
[10:36] <indus> Slart: anasha:any suggestions
[10:37] <anasha> Slart, indus, now what to do?
[10:37] <Slart> anasha: encryption? some kind of DRM?
[10:37] <vigo> Rythymbox with the 'ugly' G-10 set should work
[10:37] <indus> anasha: patience :)
[10:37] <anasha> indus ;)
[10:37] <rob_p> iceroot, Here's some extra info for setting that up:  http://pastebin.com/f25e8ab18
[10:37] <joseph> i have a problem with 915resolution
[10:37] <indus> slart probably knows or might help
[10:38] <iceroot> rob_p: thx
[10:38] <rob_p> iceroot, welcome
[10:38] <Slart> anasha: can you play other wmv files alright?
[10:38] <joseph> why has 915resolution been removed?
[10:39] <hotspeedBOPM> how powerful/accurate is  file command in linux?  can it identify any files?
[10:39] <anasha> Slart yes
[10:39] <Slart> anasha: can you pastebin the error you get from vlc? (there is a messages-window you can get to in the menus).. also pastebin the output from the 'codec information' and 'media information' if you can.. might be helpful
[10:39] <arand> How does one refresh a "gvfs" from terminal? (nautilus F5 substitute)
[10:39] <Slart> !pastebin | anasha
[10:40] <erUSUL> hotspeedBOPM: it works by looking at "magic numbers" there is a DB it looks the header of the archive and compares with that DB
[10:40] <rob_p> hotspeedBOPM, It's pretty good, fairly accurate, and can identify *most* file types.  The manpage goes into a fair amount of detail about it's methods.
[10:41] <scunizi> hotspeedBOPM: check out "man file" from the terminal and it will tell you what it can do, including what erUSUL mentioned
[10:41] <hotspeedBOPM> erusull  so, is that mean the bigger/more updated that db file is; the better it does it identifying it?
[10:41] <harri_> I accidentally installed the madwifi drivers for my ath5k wifi chipset.  Now the system stalls and locks on ath_pci at boot. How can I delete the driver from a live environment?
[10:42] <indus> anasha: sorry to say this, but as far as i know, none of the players will play encrypted formats,but maybe iam wrong
[10:42] <korn-57> hello everybody
[10:42] <joseph> how do i install the lamp stack on jaunty?
[10:42] <Myrtti> !lamp > joseph
[10:42] <scunizi> Is there a way to tap/monitor the audio stream on my lan coming off xbox-live?
[10:42] <anasha> indus ok
[10:42] <indus> anasha: but ill wait for slart to suggest
[10:42] <indus> anasha: also iam googiling
[10:43] <joseph> 915resolution? where did it go? my resolution sucks
[10:43] <Slart> indus: i don't think so either.. unfortunately..
[10:43] <indus> hmm
[10:44] <indus> Slart: anasha:anasha you can use a virtual box and use windows media player to run it i think
[10:44] <indus> but nvm
[10:44] <joseph> sorry ok ive fixed it
[10:44] <vigo> harri_: Maybe you can do it in BIOS, just disable it. still looking but that live thing is trowing me off.
[10:45] <Slart> indus, anasha: mm. virtualbox might be an option if you really need to watch something
[10:45] <anasha> Slart, ok
[10:46] <indus> But dont ask me about virtual box as i dont know :P
[10:46] <indus> ok next question :)
[10:46] <bash> when is ubuntu 9.10 gonna come out?
[10:46] <bash> september?
[10:46] <erUSUL> bash: in october
[10:46] <indus> 09 sep
[10:47] <vigo> !9.10
[10:47] <scunizi> bash 9.10 is the date
[10:47] <bash> o...
[10:47] <Slart> !karmic
[10:47] <bash> LOL
[10:47] <indus> aah 9 oct
[10:47] <erUSUL> bash: the tenth month is october...
[10:47] <zimmo> hello
[10:47] <arand> How does one refresh a "gvfs" from terminal? (nautilus F5 substitute)
[10:47] <indus> 9.10 >>> 2009.10th month
[10:47] <vigo> I have the alpha, but official release is October, which translates to it is 'out', sort of.
[10:47] <harri_> vigo, there's no option to disable it in the bios
[10:48] <joseph> this lamp tutorial doesnt cover jaunty
[10:48] <bash> Is there any news of what is going to be updated in 9.10?
[10:48] <sledgeas> hello
[10:48] <jlebrech> hi
[10:48] <arand> bash: that belongs to ubuntu+1
[10:48] <bash> :(
[10:48] <arand> bash: #ubuntu+1
[10:48] <Slart> bash: ask in #ubuntu+1
[10:49] <bash> o...
[10:49] <jlebrech> how does the lamp stack install in jaunty?
[10:49] <vigo> harri_ Ok, that was my first thought, let me look at some boards, that live is still tossing the boat a bit.
[10:49] <erUSUL> jlebrech: Myrtti already answered that
[10:49] <C4away> !intriped
[10:49] <sledgeas> where did the linux-headers go in jaunty? i cannot find it in a synaptic package manager even though i have multiverse
[10:49] <jlebrech> !lamp
[10:50] <C4away> !intrepid
[10:50] <jlebrech> no mention of jaunty in that guide
[10:50] <bash> :|
[10:51] <erUSUL> jlebrech: it is the same as in intrepid ?
[10:51] <erUSUL> jlebrech: open synaptic go to Edit>Select packages by task
[10:51] <jlebrech> i dont think so, as theres no apache2 metapackage
[10:51] <erUSUL> jlebrech: check the lamp server
[10:52] <jlebrech> oh right great
[10:52] <erUSUL> jlebrech: it is the same; tasksel is not new in jaunty
[10:53] <erUSUL> jlebrech: tasksel is a curses gui to do the same
[10:54] <vigo> harri_: Did you look at the forums: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=639758
[10:56] <faldo> where can I be initiated to linux power tools please?
[10:56] <erUSUL> sledgeas: the headers are in the same place as before... 'sudo apt-get install linux-headers-$(uname -r)'
[10:57] <faldo> any manpage ;-) ?
[10:58] <erUSUL> faldo: you will have to be more precise... "linux power tools" is a very wide topic...
[10:59] <faldo> any podcasts?
[11:00] <faldo> I'm joking erUSUL (my distro is working like a charm by the way)
[11:02] <MaWaLe> jlebrech: just type this command : sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[11:04] <jlebrech> yeh i have it now, cant remember it being split up like that
[11:05] <MaWaLe> jlebrech: with tasksel it'll be installed in oneshot
[11:05] <MaWaLe> sudo tasksel install lamp-server
[11:06] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXX-2.6.28.11.15 and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[11:07] <fincan> hi, I have a problem with a new KUBUNTU 9.04 install that there are some blocked content in update list; linux-XXX-2.6.28.11.15 and there is no update for the new kernel update(2.6.28-13). any idea?
[11:07] <erUSUL> !repeat
[11:08] <erUSUL> fincan: check your sources
[11:09] <fincan> erUSUL: sources is ok, and I have found a solution in the forums "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[11:09] <erUSUL> fincan: ok
[11:09] <fincan> erUSUL: so thats means Kpackageit doesnt have "dist-upgrade" options for kernel or other updates?
[11:10] <erUSUL> fincan: dunno... update-manager does offer it... it calls it partial upgrades
[11:10] <erUSUL> fincan: i use plain ubuntu
[11:10] <fincan> erUSUL: but it doesnt show them as partial upgrades
[11:14] <maxagaz> what does the dot mean here '. /etc/lsb-release' ?
[11:14] <indus> maxagaz: maybe a typo?
[11:15] <jrib> maxagaz: it's like "source"
[11:15] <Jonny> Is there a text-based installer included with the -desktop iso?
[11:15] <indus> maxagaz: cat /etc/lsb-release
[11:15] <maxagaz> jrib, thanks
[11:15] <Jonny> I'd rather not have to download alternate :/
[11:15] <grawity> In bash, the command '.' is an alias to 'source'
[11:15] <sattam> hi , when ubuntu will going push notify-osd  to gnome ?
[11:15] <indus> aah ok
[11:15] <indus> that dot
[11:15] <indus> dot slash
[11:16] <Jonny> Is there a text-based installer included with the -desktop iso? I'd rather not have to download alternate :/
[11:17] <Jonny> ...and can one invoke it via a kernel option or something?
[11:19] <erUSUL> Jonny: no that i know of
[11:22] <shashwatpns> when i create a aptoncd iso file,l aptoncd closes automatically attwhen it is reading the packages
[11:22] <shashwatpns> when i create a aptoncd iso file,l aptoncd closes automatically at 40%when it is reading the packages
[11:22] <Slart> shashwatpns: try running it from a terminal.. see if you get an error message
[11:23] <shashwatpns> no it did not work slart
[11:24] <Slart> shashwatpns: ok
[11:24] <shashwatpns> do u have any other option slart?
[11:24] <Slart> shashwatpns: nope
[11:26] <kampit> help, my pidgin have problems connecting to YM..
[11:27] <kampit> can anybody help me?
[11:27] <mbostwick> hello
[11:28] <ziroday> kampit: http://www.celticwolf.com/useful-information/faqs/26-pidgin-yahoo
[11:28] <shashwatpns_> back
[11:28] <mbostwick> In ubuntu what's the file that controls the decorates kde uses ?
[11:28] <my_haz> is there amouse theme which is big and "blinks" when you click?
[11:29] <mbostwick> sorry issues....
[11:29] <shashwatpns_> when i create a aptoncd iso file,aptoncd closes automatically at 40% when it is reading the packages.Help plz!!!
[11:29] <mbostwick> but can someone tell me the file that controls gnome starting up vs kde, with the startx command
[11:30] <Guest81581> is that gdm?
[11:31] <rek> orry
[11:31] <mbostwick> Guest81581: in console mode, I press start x once I have shut off gdm, right now it starts gnome. In gentoo its just a .xinitrc
[11:32] <rek> hello what can i install for wmv files?
[11:32] <mbostwick> ill just try it....
[11:32] <Spike1506> rek, ubuntu-restricted-extras
[11:32] <shashwatpns_> when i create a aptoncd iso file,aptoncd closes automatically at 40% when it is reading the packages.Help plz!!!
[11:32] <rek> thx spike1506
[11:32] <kampit> thanx bro
[11:33] <Guest81581> okay
[11:33] <Guest81581> to start stop or restart gdm
[11:33] <Guest81581> do a
[11:33] <rek> which packets should i install now? because i'v formatted all y pc
[11:33] <Guest81581> /etc/init.d/gdm start or stop of restart
[11:33] <plouffe> how can I turn automatic updates back on in Ubuntu 9.04?
[11:34] <mbostwick> ...just as a note yah I was right :) ....just edit .xinitrc and put startkde.... and im good to go :)
[11:34] <rek> are there some important packets i should install?
[11:34] <Spike1506> plouffe, via the update manager
[11:35] <Jenk> any recommendations for an IDE for C for a beginner ?
[11:35] <Guest81581> its in the etc/x11/xinit/xinitrc
[11:35] <plouffe> Spike1506: thanks I'll try, but it's busy now
[11:35] <Guest81581> hmmmmm
[11:35] <perbl> Jenk: yeah, don't use one
[11:35] <Guest81581> xinitrc got me curious
[11:35] <Spike1506> Jenk: i like netbeans but im not sure if it supports C
[11:36] <perbl> learn the basics before you jump ahead and start using an IDE
[11:36] <Jenk> what no IDE ?
[11:36] <Slart> Jenk: start by using a regular text editor.. especially for C
[11:36] <rek> spike are you able to set up the zd1211 zydas wifi usb lan adapter?
[11:36] <rek> in damn small linux
[11:36] <perbl> learn yourself a good editor, and do basic stuff to learn the foundations of the language
[11:36] <The_Warlock> I made some changes in /etc/X11/xorg.conf and /etc/gdm/gdm.conf and when i restart the xserver the changes take effect.but when i log out or restart the changes dont take effect unless i edit the files again and retsrt xserver...any body know how to fix this...i am running jaunty
[11:36] <Jenk> Slart:I'm a newcomer to Linux...
[11:37] <Jenk> perbl:why ?
[11:37] <Guest81581> yo The_Warlock still having that problem?
[11:37] <Slart> Jenk: ehmm.. so? most text editors work the same way in linux that they do in any other os.
[11:37] <perbl> Jenk: if you are a beginner, you have no need for an IDE in order to learn a language
[11:37] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: actually i figured out the previous issue...it needed a quirk :)
[11:37] <Slart> Jenk: I use scite, editra or plain gedit for text editing
[11:37] <Guest81581> lol
[11:37] <Guest81581> so whats the issue now
[11:38] <perbl> Jenk: and if you want to _understand_ the language, you don't need an IDE maskin out things with code generation and stuff for you
[11:38] <betz> Anyone knows if there is a EHCP irc channel?
[11:38] <rek> anyone able to setup the wireless connection with damn small linux?
[11:38] <Jenk> Do i then use vim or something like that ?
[11:38] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: but the change only is in effect when i edit those files and restart xserver...the moment i logout or restart the box the changes dont take effrect unless i redit the files and retsrt the xserver using cntl alt backspace
[11:38] <JyZyXEL> why isn't the Gnome Weater Report plugin not letting me to adjust the settings?
[11:38] <perbl> if you manage to learn yourself vim, that is a terrific editor
[11:39] <JyZyXEL> where are the settings stored?
[11:39] <perbl> it should be noted that vim is something of a challenge to learn, but once you learn it, you will probably use it a lot and not want to go back to a regular editor :)
[11:39] <Jenk> perbl:yes, i'd like that, but i know neither head nor tails of vim ...
[11:39] <mrwes> perbl, better yet, vim-full
[11:39] <vatts> VIM PWNZ!
[11:40] <vatts> aye, so does Gvim
[11:40] <vatts> :D
[11:40] <perbl> Jenk: but if you want to use an IDE, I think eclipse has kinda good support for C nowadays
[11:40] <Guest81581> so basically edit xserver conf files?
[11:40] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: its weird that i need to reedit files which already have the required parameters...and then xserver restart fixes it till the next logout/reboot
[11:40] <spike> anybody running jaunty with encrypted root that knows of a good tutorial to set that up?
[11:40] <The_Warlock> yes...
[11:40] <Guest81581> i love nano
[11:40] <spike> is any install CD offering that option?
[11:40] <Jenk> perbl:yes, but it supports Java much better.
[11:40] <spike> and make it not a pita to setup, that is
[11:40] <perbl> Jenk: yep
[11:41] <mrwes> I like nano too
[11:41] <Guest81581> there shud be a command that reconfigures your configuration
[11:41] <Guest81581> my home directory is encrypted
[11:41] <perbl> Jenk: but my claim is still that to learn basic skills in a language, you are much better off without an IDE if you have a good text editor that has good support for the language you are learning
[11:42] <Jenk> perbl:just started c recently as part of curriculum in college, so i thought an IDE for C would be a better idea..
[11:42] <Guest81581> hmmm so xinitrc invokes the /etc/X11/XSession
[11:42] <Slart> Jenk: I have to agree with perbl.. if you start using an IDE with lots of features you'll spend more time learning the IDE than learning the actual language
[11:42] <perbl> Jenk: perhaps the course material suggests an editor for you*?
[11:42] <perbl> -*
[11:43] <PingFloyd> Jenk: geany
[11:43] <ttl_work> greetings
[11:43] <Jenk> they teach me with MS-DOS
[11:43] <Guest81581> and it puts all session scripts to variables
[11:43] <perbl> omg
[11:43] <Guest81581> dont mind me im just talking to myself
[11:43] <Guest81581> no
[11:43] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: ok
[11:44] <Guest81581> starting with IDE is bad
[11:44] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Quirks thats the page where i found it out
[11:44] <Guest81581> you will develop bad programming habits
[11:44] <Guest81581> better start with text editor
[11:44] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, checking
[11:45] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: yeah.....i have seen so many students starting C with turbo C and when they r given a unix box they r left clueless of how to write a C program
[11:45] <Jenk> Well, if IDE's are bad for learning a language, why do people create them ?
[11:45] <grawity> Eh, we had to learn PASCAL at school this year...
[11:45] <PingFloyd> Jenk: there's nothing wrong with using an IDE
[11:45] <The_Warlock> Jenk: just start with vim
[11:45] <Slart> Jenk: to *work* with a language
[11:45] <The_Warlock> its awesome
[11:46] <Guest81581> IDE's are supposed to make hardened programmers life easier
[11:46] <ttl_work> i removed /etc/courier and having a problem installing/uninstalling courier-imap, how to force the installer to install all files just like when courier-imap never has been installed
[11:46] <Guest81581> if you start with IDE you will rely on it too much
[11:46] <Jenk> Allright, could someone give his/her ideal way of learning C ?
[11:47] <Guest81581> sure auto-complete is nice but
[11:47] <PingFloyd> Guest81581: same thing can be said about DEs
[11:47] <cyberghoser1> grawiti: i learned pascal when i was 13, they teach it in those years?
[11:47] <ikonia> Jenk: the interenet - this is ubuntu OS support
[11:47] <Slart> Jenk: a regular text editor, a good text-book, compiling on a command line
[11:48] <lordblaa> hi everyone, just wondering what the support is like for using an iphone with linux? anyone had any experience?
[11:48] <anachronik_> is there some good fax software?
[11:48] <cyberghoser1> Jenk: Your brain is the best way trust me
[11:48] <Guest81581> well in DEs you dont have those automagical stuff
[11:48] <The_Warlock> Jenk, a linux box, vim and a copy of C programming language
[11:48] <The_Warlock> ;)
[11:48] <The_Warlock> and gcc ofcourse
[11:48] <anachronik_> sending odts for fax machines?
[11:49] <Guest81581> build-essential
[11:49] <The_Warlock> which should be there on any linux box by default
[11:49] <Jenk> ikonia: i'm searching for an IDE for Ubuntu, due to the nos available i am bewildered. In course of asking for help, i must have strayed.Due apologies.
[11:49] <shashwatpns_>  when i create a aptoncd iso file,aptoncd closes automatically at 40% when it is reading the packages.Help plz!!!
[11:49] <PingFloyd> Jenk: check out geany if you want a low bloat ide
[11:49] <The_Warlock> if at all you r looking for an IDE try eclipse
[11:49] <Guest81581> its much fun to learn the syntax by heart
[11:49] <Spike1506> or netbeans
[11:50] <perbl> Jenk: what Slart said!
[11:50] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock - agree with eclipse, powerfull
[11:50] <perbl> (find a text editor, buy a good C-book, program and run things on the command line)
[11:50] <Guest81581> NETBEANS for IDE
[11:50] <Guest81581> text editor for learning
[11:50] <Jenk> Slart: I'll try your method.
[11:51] <Guest81581> is there a C chanel?
[11:51] <Guest81581> #join /c
[11:51] <Slart> ##C might be it
[11:51] <lstarnes> there is ##c, but it requires registration with nickserv
[11:51] <Guest81581> maybe if theres a c channel you can also learn from there
[11:52] <Guest81581> that wud be cool
[11:52] <aurilliance> Using screenlets, the ringsensor screenlet gives me options of "CPU0, CPU1, CPU2" but I only have a dual core CPU... any suggestions as to what the others may be?
[11:52] <Jenk> Guest81581, i'm a newbie
[11:52] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, the only problem its way too much for a begginner
[11:52] <ikonia> Guest81581: ##c
[11:52] <Guest81581> see
[11:52] <Slart> aurilliance: nothing in the man-page?
[11:52] <Guest81581> if theres such a channel thebn its a good place to learn
[11:52] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock - i know that since i was developing l2j on it, its maybe hard to begin with it
[11:52] <aurilliance> Slart: where would the man page for it be?
[11:53] <Jenk> Thanks Folks !
[11:53] <Guest81581> LOL
[11:53] <Guest81581> maybe when you become a not so newbie
[11:53] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, i needed a couple of hours just to find my way thru it a couple of years ago
[11:53] <Slart> aurilliance: hmm.. I thought there was a help function.. my bad
[11:53] <Guest81581> Jenk, but if you really wanna go for IDE then get netbeans
[11:53] <Slart> aurilliance: anyways.. I think cpu is the combined cpu usage.. cpu1 is for cpu 1 and so on
[11:54] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock - well i started using java as main core, then compiling the project is quite good, but ofcourse C is another thing
[11:54] <aurilliance> yeah I was wondering if that'w what it is. Thanks, Slart for confirming :P
[11:55] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock - I'm using gambas2 as platform now to make applications on ubuntu, its like visual basic free for linux
[11:56] <Jenk> Guest81581, i'll stay with the advice of the box, vim,the brain,book and CLI. Thanks anyway.
[11:56] <cyberghoser1> Jenk: yeah the brain is the most important thing
[11:57] <Guest81581> well if you are learning then thats the best way to go
[11:57] <Guest81581> learn the syntax by heart
[11:57] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, i never used it....do u have a link?
[11:57] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, are you sure you have monitor quirks?
[11:57] <Jenk> cyberghoser1, , yeah right ! btw, edubuntu would help ?
[11:58] <The_Warlock> yes.....it did work out.....
[11:58] <Jenk> Guest81581, ok.
[11:58] <Guest81581> lol
[11:58] <Guest81581> really?
[11:58] <The_Warlock> and the backport modules didnt work out...
[11:58] <Guest81581> im still checking it out
[11:58] <Guest81581> oh sux
[11:58] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock - http://gambas.sourceforge.net/en/main.html
[11:58] <Guest81581> well if you had the quirks then deffinitely it wont work
[11:59] <cyberghoser1> Jenk - of course
[11:59] <Jenk> cyberghoser1, edubuntu would help learning C ?
[12:00] <jimlovell777> Can a kernel module be downloaded from someone/somewhere and be used on my computer without issue? I'm trying to use my laptop's built in MMC card reader but to do so requires a kernel module and I don't want to have to compile it myself.
[12:00] <cyberghoser1> Jenk - if you really want to learn C, C++ and other derivatives, the os choice is not the most important thing, you will start at command prompt, learn the compiler and the most important, the syntax
[12:00] <ikonia> jimlovell777: it depends on a lot of things
[12:00] <The_Warlock> Guest81581, you mean it wont work on restarts ?
[12:01] <Guest81581> i think you can but you will have to recompile
[12:01] <ikonia> jimlovell777: where are you getting the module from
[12:01] <Guest81581> The_Warlock, what do you mean?
[12:01] <Jenk> cyberghoser1, okay, and ?
[12:01] <The_Warlock> Jenk, the best book that i would recommend for C is C programming language by ritchie...its a bit tough to grasp but its awesome
[12:02] <cyberghoser1> Jenk - and? if you want to learn better start now :P
[12:02] <The_Warlock> you said if i had quirks it wont work
[12:02] <Guest81581> i would suggest DIETEL
[12:02] <jimlovell777> ikonia: No where, haven't found a site to do such a thing but I was curious if it would work should such a site exist. Is there a way to download the kernel source and only build/compile that module? Compiling the entire kernel takes hours on this computer and that's a lot of hassle for one module.
[12:02] <Guest81581> i mean if you really have quirks then the backports thingy wouldnt work
[12:02] <The_Warlock> Guest81581, ahh okies
[12:03] <ikonia> jimlovell777: it's very speicifc on a permodule/perkernel basis
[12:03] <Guest81581> coz backports deal with the driver aspect while the quirks seems to be a manufacturing error
[12:03] <Jenk> The_Warlock, have it already,
[12:03] <The_Warlock> so now how do i fis this so  that i dont have edit  the files again and again as te=he entries r already there?
[12:03] <Jenk> cyberghoser1, am taking ur advice and leaving...
[12:04] <The_Warlock> Jenk, cool.....there are some other ones that are easy to follow and explain the concepts in a more understandable way
[12:04] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, intersting
[12:05] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, yes it is i already made an application like video club dvd loans, so easy
[12:05] <djoob> Hi I can't seem to get flash player working on Hardy heron .. can anyone help me?
[12:05] <The_Warlock> sweet
[12:05] <cyberghoser1> djoob, what version of flash do you use?
[12:05] <djoob> 10
[12:06] <djoob> cyberghoser1: 10
[12:06] <cyberghoser1> djoob, you got choppy video?
[12:06] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  EVerytime I got to a flash enabled site I get... plugin not installed
[12:06] <djoob> And I've installed it 10 times by now
[12:06] <cyberghoser1> djoob, go into firefox hit: about:config and scroll down and in the line shockwave look what plugin it says and report back here
[12:07] <djoob> cyberghoser1: One minute
[12:07] <supersasho> hi.. i just installed Jaunty and it does not recognize pwm on my mainboard, in intrepid it was working, so where could the problem be?
[12:07] <djoob> cyberghoser1: about:config or about:plugins?
[12:07] <cyberghoser1> djoob, about:config
[12:08] <cyberghoser1> djoob, and scroll down to bottom it says shockwave plugins:
[12:08] <djoob> cyberghoser1: about:config shows nothing for shockwave when I type it in the filter
[12:08] <incorrect> other than lynx and links are there any other console browsers?
[12:08] <cyberghoser1> djoob, about:config will show you a message to be careful etc just click it
[12:08] <cyberghoser1> djoob, also scroll down, if not working then try about:plugins
[12:09] <cyberghoser1> djoob, i can provide also a link for you to revert to flash 9
[12:09] <djoob> yes I did... then in the filter I type shockwave so it finds the line with shockwave and nothing comes up ... in about:plugins there isn't a schokwave section
[12:10] <cyberghoser1> djoob, then it seems that your .so plugin file is not found, can you look at /yourname/.mozilla/plugins folder?
[12:10] <The_Warlock> Guest81581: do i need to reconfigiure my x server after making the changes in the file?
[12:10] <djoob> cyberghoser1: yes I can and it contains the libflashplayer.so
[12:11] <cyberghoser1> djoob,  ok then sudo nautilus and delete this plugin
[12:11] <djoob> ok
[12:11] <cyberghoser1> djoob,  and reinstall
[12:11] <djoob> can I just rm libflashplayer.so in the folder?
[12:12] <cyberghoser1> djoob, do it if it works, don't remember if you need root privileges
[12:12] <djoob> worked
[12:12] <marky_bmw3> hi
[12:12] <cyberghoser1> djoob,  ok now open a site with flash content and when it shows you missing plugin install that way
[12:13] <djoob> cyberghoser1: Ok one minute
[12:14] <magcius> Is there any way to check on the progress of the "Normalizing tracks" step in Brasero?
[12:14] <magcius> It's taking forever, and I don't have much time left.
[12:14] <user___> anyone using clamav on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:15] <cowgarden> :( just installed the updates and pressed cancel when I was asked if want to keep or overwrite the old version. Thought that would stop the installation but the pakets are gone from my update list. (linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic which popped up something about debconfig oder something; another one (dunno which( popped up menue.lst or something)?
[12:16] <cowgarden> user___, wanted to, wondered if it could detect windows viruses too
[12:17] <cowgarden> now I got an error report that linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic could not be installed
[12:18] <harikumar_> Hi Everyone... Im new for ubuntu... When i try to login to facebook and open application such as barn buddy - page just blank. and i already install flash player. What i need to do?
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> yo yo y
[12:20] <ActionParsnip> o
[12:20] <user___> @cowgarden du mean clamav is not worth installing ?
[12:20] <areels> how can i search a file in computor
[12:21] <djoob> cyberghoser1: When I try to install flash from plugin menu it says this "plugin flash-nonfree is already installed"
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> areels: you can use the find command in terminal or an app like beagle
[12:21] <areels> beagle, ok, thanks
[12:21] <cyberghoser1> djoob, then you didnt delete all the flsh related plugins, remove the non free from synaptic
[12:21] <ActionParsnip> areels: sudo find / -name *.exe | less              is a ood way to find all .exe files
[12:21] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  er?
[12:22] <ActionParsnip> areels: you can use any globbing you like, you can even grep the output to make it more sensical
[12:22] <cyberghoser1> djoob, delete all the flash plugins in /yourname/.mozilla/plugins and look in synaptic for the non free that it is removed
[12:22] <areels> ActionParsnip, i'm in trouble with cd burning, can't create proper cd's, %50 of discs are stopping in the middle
[12:23] <areels> which burning software is the most stable one
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> areels: are you using brasero ?
[12:23] <ActionParsnip> !burning
[12:23] <areels> ActionParsnip:  ONLY BRASERO  is working but it's too slow and can't automatically create 10 copies for example
[12:24] <ActionParsnip> areels: if it works i'd run with it. you in a hurry?
[12:24] <Shtl> Hello All
[12:25] <areels> ActionParsnip:  i'm burning 50 copies now and it's like torture with brasero
[12:25] <Shtl> i deleted a file by mistake with shift+del, is it possible to recover deleted file???
[12:25] <user___> anyone using clamav on ubuntu 9.04 ?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: not without a lot of grief using foremost, do you have a backup?
[12:25] <ActionParsnip> user___: i dont use any av at all, no need for me
[12:26] <cyberghoser1> user___, yeap me too
[12:26] <Shtl> backup??
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: yes, a copy of your files incase your hard drive fails
[12:26] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: on an external storae like an external drive, or cd
[12:26] <Shtl> no
[12:27] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: why not?
[12:27] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  Ok done
[12:27] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  Now should I install the one from the Adobe site?
[12:27] <cyberghoser1> djoob, yes but do it the way that firefox open a missing plugin tab
[12:27] <Shtl> i deleted that file by mistake, so now m struggling to recover it if possible
[12:27] <areels> how can i run beagle
[12:28] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  Ok
[12:28] <cyberghoser1> djoob, open www.zoo.gr no matter the content it will bring this tab
[12:28] <cyberghoser1> djoob, then install adobe flash it will work for sure like here
[12:28] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: if you boot to a live cd you can run foremost on the partition to extract all files of a certain type to a different partition
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: its not garunteed to work but may be good. if the file name is very common you will be recovering a lot of extra data as well as the file you removed
[12:29] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: if you had a backup you would not be in this mess as the data would simply be restorable from the backup
[12:29] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  I installed it.... it says installed but when I go to zoo.gr it still brings up the missing plugin tab
[12:29] <Shtl> ActionParsnip: it was just a Video file of 1.1 GB
[12:29] <reya276> morning
[12:30] <cyberghoser1> djoob, redo again once so i can understand something
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: I have sql backups of 200Gb
[12:30] <reya276> Does anyone know why Yahoo IM is not working through Pidgin?
[12:30] <Shtl> ok
[12:30] <ActionParsnip> Shtl: you can get 1Tb usb drives for not much
[12:30] <cyberghoser1> reya276, its working here weird
[12:30] <djoob> cyberghoser1: Ok in the .mozilla/plugins/ there is nothing
[12:30] <Shtl> ActionParsnip: foremost is a command?
[12:31] <reya276> cyberghoser1: where are you located?
[12:31] <ActionParsnip> !info foremost
[12:31] <cyberghoser1> reya276, Greece
[12:31] <false> reya276: If you'll join the pidgin channel there is a link in there topic about it.
[12:31] <cyberghoser1> djoob, are you sure ? maybe restart your computer and come back
[12:31] <false> reya276: I'm currently not able to connect to yahoo on pidgin, either.
[12:31] <reya276> cyberghoser1: ah ok
[12:31] <djoob> cyberghoser1:  Ok
[12:31] <tntcoder> Hi, can anyone please point me to a guide on how to release software for Ubuntu, i.e how to package it, deal with dependencies etc?
[12:31] <reya276> false: oh ok so the #pidgin
[12:31] <reya276> thanks
[12:33] <[sober]> not
[12:34] <ActionParsnip> tntcoder: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-92016.html
[12:34] <The_Warlock> how do i enable remote login thru command line?
[12:35] <tntcoder> ActionParsnip, thanks very much
[12:35] <ActionParsnip> The_Warlock: do you mean login via ssh
[12:35] <The_Warlock> no
[12:36] <The_Warlock> via remote gui
[12:36] <The_Warlock> i already have ssh
[12:36] <[dynami]> does ubuntu live cd have sometihng to play mp3s on ?
[12:36] <ActionParsnip> The_Warlock: can you clarify "login" then please
[12:36] <The_Warlock> i need to enable remote gui login
[12:36] <The_Warlock> through command line
[12:37] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73199
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: sure, there are apps on the cd you can apt-get install
[12:37] <cousteau> how can I configure the notify OSD position?
[12:37] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: of which app?
[12:37] <[dynami]> ActionParsnip, no i mean on the live cd
[12:37] <[dynami]> not install
[12:37] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock,  look post #9
[12:37] <cousteau> ActionParsnip: the gnome one
[12:38] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: yes, you can apt-get install in the live cd, aps are installed to the ram drive
[12:38] <cousteau> notify-osd
[12:38] <[dynami]> ActionParsnip, that would take up alot of ram, no ?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: depends on the app
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: if its something like leafpad, no. If its something larger thn possibly
[12:39] <cousteau> `notification-properties` doesn't work (maybe for the old notification system)
[12:39] <[dynami]> ActionParsnip, what about smb4k ?
[12:39] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: should be small, try it
[12:40] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: its not something I use dude. I'll see what MSN can dig up
[12:40] <The_Warlock> sorry got dc
[12:40] <creeed_> or mpg123 from the command line
[12:40] <[dynami]> ActionParsnip, one more thing, will ubuntu detect my wireless broadcom?
[12:40] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock,  did you see the post i told you?
[12:40] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, sorry got dc :(
[12:40] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=73199
[12:41] <cousteau> ActionParsnip: the black rounded notification rectangles that appear on the top right corner
[12:41] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, look post #9 maybe can help you
[12:41] <The_Warlock> tnx
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> [dynami]: posibly not, the firmware cutter should help, or you can download the driver to a usb and use ndiswrapper
[12:41] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: i use lxde, i dont have that sort of rubbish cluttering up my system
[12:41] <cousteau> these ones http://glatelier.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/nuevas-notificaciones.png?w=512&h=267
[12:42] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, i was actually looking for the command...cos i only have ssh access to that box
[12:42] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: i know what they are. i just hate that kinda thing but i'm sure theres a way to move them around a bit
[12:43] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, ok then ill keep search
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: when one pops up can you drag it?
[12:43] <Zeebo> testù
[12:43] <cousteau> no, it dissapears on mouse over
[12:43] <supersasho> hi.. i just installed Jaunty and it does not recognize pwm on my mainboard, in intrepid it was working, so where could the problem be?
[12:43] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: http://www.uluga.ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?p=7026302
[12:44] <The_Warlock> cyberghoser1, me too :)
[12:44] <ActionParsnip> cousteau: looks like its static for now
[12:44] <cousteau> `notification-properties` allows me to select where notifications appear, but it has no effect over the new osd
[12:45] <creeed_> I'm looking for any independant applet that just monitor wireless signal straight except nm-applet
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> creeed_: wifi-radar
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !info wifi-radar
[12:45] <S0LIDUS> creeed_: Conky
[12:45] <Zeebo> test
[12:45] <becomingGuru> My keyboard shortcuts dont work.... Atl+H doesnt take me to home folder
[12:45] <ActionParsnip> !test | Zeebo
[12:46] <ActionParsnip> !shortcut | becomingGuru
[12:46] <scunizi> creeed_: if you use wifi-radar uninstall nm-applet.. they don't play well together.
[12:47] <creeed_> scunizi, does wifi-radar work with NetworkManager
[12:47] <becomingGuru> ubottu, Its not for the Multimedia keys... Thankfully they work well
[12:47] <cos_> hai
[12:47] <creeed_> I'm looking for a tool witch works independant of any network Manager
[12:47] <scunizi> creeed_: sorry.. I ment to say networkmanager..
[12:47] <Kingsy101> anyone in here used FileZilla before?
[12:47] <becomingGuru> ActionParsnip, Dint get you
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> becomingGuru: try System -> Preferences -> Keyboard Shortcuts. If your multimedia keys don't work with that, try the 'keytouch' package, explained at http://keytouch.sourceforge.net - See !Keyboard for changing layouts
[12:48] <sivel27> what is the default gnome sound volume applet called?
[12:48] <cos_> please respon me !!!!
[12:48] <becomingGuru> Kingsy101, Filezilla as an ftp client on Linux where U hv sooo many FTP options
[12:48] <susbwoy> whats the equivalent of that z25-persistnet-net rules file(udev) in debian for ubuntu?
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !hi | cos_
[12:48] <grawity> cos_: Do you have a question?
[12:48] <Kingsy101> does anyone know how to stop FileZilla truncating a directory if it has more than 2000 files?
[12:48] <scunizi> Kingsy101: works ok,  xchat not xchat-gnome is better.. but better yet is irssi
[12:48] <Abdullah> what is sabayon user for
[12:48] <ActionParsnip> !ot | Abdullah
[12:48] <bazhang> Abdullah, ??
[12:49] <cos_> yes a have trouble with my scaner would you help me
[12:49] <Zeebo> test
[12:49] <scunizi> Kingsy101: filezilla!  ah sorry.. thought chatzilla.. just saw the zilla
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: how about with gftp
[12:49] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: maybe its the server config, try a different app to clarify
[12:49] <cyberghoser1> The_Warlock, kinda hard to find, sorry
[12:50] <cos_> thank king
[12:50] <tux> anyone having issues with pidgin?
[12:50] <Sigi1> Hi, where can i change my usb remote settings? it workd out of the box, but some keys are swapped.
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> cos_: ask your question the room will answer
[12:50] <cyberghoser1> tux, what success?
[12:50] <Kingsy101> what app DEFINAYLY lets you see more than 2000 files?
[12:50] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: Linux comes with no warrantys or garuntees of service or performance
[12:50] <tux> cyberghoser1, won't log me in
[12:50] <cyberghoser1> tux, with what account, aim, msn ?
[12:50] <Kingsy101> ActionParsnip - in your experience?
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: so the right answer would be none
[12:51] <tux> constantly connectin
[12:51] <tux> yahoo
[12:51] <cyberghoser1> tux, let me try too
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: i use ftp at command line, works fine
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> !ftp | Kingsy101
[12:51] <false> tux: Join the pidgin channel, there is a link in the topic about Yahoo on Pidgin.
[12:51] <cos_> my pidgin error
[12:51] <ActionParsnip> Kingsy101: try a few, see which you like
[12:51] <tux> false, thanks
[12:51] <false> cos_: If it has do with yahoo, refer to my previous statement.
[12:52] <false> tux: Welcome.
[12:53] <amgarching> I see this in "dmesg": udev: renamed network interface eth0 to eth1 Why does it do it?
[12:53] <Zeebo> test
[12:54] <afd__> hi! I have a dell xps 1530, and the latest ubuntu beta. When I move lots of files on the hard disk (from a partition to another), the system tends to freeze a lot and applications respond very slow, the system load is high (above 3). What can I do?
[12:54]  * Myrtti didn't know there was a beta of ubuntu available, if you're referring to karmic alpha, the support is at #ubuntu+1, afd__ 
[12:55] <cowgarden> :( just installed the updates and pressed cancel when I was asked if want to keep or overwrite the old version. Thought that would stop the installation but the pakets are gone from my update list. (linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic which popped up something about debconfig oder something; another one (dunno which( popped up menue.lst or something)?
[12:55] <cowgarden> now I got an error report that linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic could not be installed
[12:55] <scunizi> afd__: beta releases are discussed in #ubuntu+1 .. however moving files seems to work better from cli.  Nautilus tends to bogg the sys down
[12:55] <sivel27> whats a good applet to put on the panel when using fluxbox?
[12:55] <afd__> scunizi: I had the same problem before upgrading as well, can we talk about that?
[12:55] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: does it show up in: dpkg -l | grep linux-image
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: do you need the new kernel?
[12:56] <need_help> hello need help when i install ubuntu 9.04 and i update seems when i click using GUI (Gnome) it's slow , before using ubuntu 8 wasn't like this ! why it's like that! thanks =)
[12:56] <voracious> I need gpg key for the repo to get e17 in ubuntu. I searched in google, and everywhere I get wget lut1n.ifrance.com, but it is not resolved. Do you tell me where do I get?
[12:56] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, what is it good for?
[12:56] <scunizi> afd__: about what.. not much to add unless you have another question
[12:56] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: is your system running on all cylinders and all hardware running ok?
[12:56] <IndyGunFreak> anyone else having problems w/ Pidgin and Yahoo?
[12:56] <afd__> scunizi: about what I might do so that the hardisk speed is not that slow
[12:57] <Pici> IndyGunFreak: Yes, there have been a few reports of that today.
[12:57] <ActionParsnip> voracious: if you give me the code that is in the error i can give you the code to fix it
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> Pici: ok.  figured.
[12:57] <false> IndyGunFreak: There's a link in the topic of #Pidgin about it.
[12:57] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, yes, for this mashine. All cylinders = cpu cores?
[12:57] <IndyGunFreak> false: yeah, just went there and saw it, thanks
[12:58] <false> IndyGunFreak: mhm.
[12:58] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip,  shows up: iF  linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic              2.6.28-13.44
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: just a colloquiualism for everything runnin ok. if its all ok you have no reason at all to install the new kernel
[12:58] <cowgarden> ok
[12:58] <scunizi> afd__: the speed of the hd or speed appearance is determined by the drive itself, the files system used and possible tweeks that I dont have the least bit of knowledge of.
[12:58] <eddiestone> hello. how do I add 3 months (for example) to a datetime field?
[12:58] <eddiestone> sorry wrong channel
[12:58] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: then run:  sudo apt-get --purge remove linux-image-2.6.28.13-generic; sudo apt-get --purge autoremove; sudo apt-get clean
[12:59] <voracious> wget http://lut1n.ifrance.com/repo_key.asc, while I give this command in terminal, it says: wget: unable to resove host address 'lut1n.ifrance.com'
[12:59] <Pici> voracious: Which repo are you having difficulty with?
[12:59] <ActionParsnip> voracious: if you run: sudo apt-get update you will see a strig of hex characters, if you give me that i can give you the command
[12:59] <voracious> okay
[13:00] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, thank you!
[13:00] <need_help> how to remove the animation using ubuntu 9.04 like when open site or browser look like animation coz it's making ubuntu slow .! thanks =)
[13:00] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: if your system is running you do not have to get the new kernel.
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: if some of your harware needs the new kernel to run, then get it otherwise theres no benefit at all
[13:01] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, no performance improvements either?
[13:01] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: you can check whats new to see if the new one benefits you.
[13:02] <cowgarden> ActionParsnip, ok, Ill do that for me EEE-PC. I have some issues there
[13:02] <ajinkya> hi i have ubuntu , with firefox , ter are some sites that open only on IE 6 and IE7 ,what do i need to od ?
[13:02] <voracious> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/199183/ here is the output of sudo apt-get update
[13:02] <ActionParsnip> cowgarden: it may help. i even talked to a guy who needed the .30kernel for jaunty to make suff nice
[13:02] <ajinkya> any plugins for firefox ?
[13:02] <Abdullah> yes
[13:03] <Kingsy102> can someone tell me what the shell command would be to do this... copy hello.html to the same directory but call the copy hello_copy.html
[13:03] <ActionParsnip> voracious: why do you have edgy and feisty repos in your sources file?
[13:03] <Kingsy102> nm got it
[13:03] <ajinkya> hi i have ubuntu , with firefox , ter are some sites that open only on IE 6 and IE7 ,what do i need to do ? any plugins for firefox or new to do in ubuntu , wat to install ?
[13:03] <gnubie> ajinkya;   you might try the agent switcher plugin
[13:04] <ajinkya> gnubie : how do i get it ?
[13:04] <ajinkya> i have only ubuntu , not xp
[13:04] <Pici> ActionParsnip: I gotta run, but I was just glancing in here, but it looked like you just tell cowgarden to remove the only linux-image package he had installed??
[13:04] <Wormer> Does somebody know, how to start Worms Armageddon on Wine 1.1.23? I patched user32.dll (comment one string), but can't find patch for latest ddraw! What can I do?
[13:04] <need_help> how to remove the animation using ubuntu 9.04 like when open site or browser look like animation coz it's making ubuntu slow .! thanks =)
[13:04] <scunizi> ajinkya: if the agent switcher plugin doesn't work then run xp or win2kpro or whatever version of win had ie6 .. install into virtualbox.. I have to do that for some realestate sites
[13:05] <grawity> need_help: Settings -> Appearance -> Visual Effects
[13:05] <voracious> I am trying to install Geubuntu, and I had got some sources in website. I just copied and pasted them in apt/sources.list
[13:05] <Wormer> need_help, Firefox?
[13:05] <cowgarden> Pici, I did not yet restart :)
[13:05] <gnubie> ajinkya;   tools > in firefoxaddons
[13:05] <Wormer> ajinkya, install ies4linux
[13:05] <need_help> Wormer, yes when i change from firefox to terminal or from kmess to terminal it's slow
[13:05] <gnubie> ajinkya;   tools > addons in firefox
[13:05] <anachronik_> when on hybernation, what's the way to get out of it?
[13:06] <scunizi> Wormer: that does't always work.. <---- ajinkya
[13:06] <need_help> grawity,  thx work:*
[13:07] <Wormer> Does somebody know, how to start Worms Armageddon on Wine 1.1.23? I patched user32.dll (comment one string), but can't find patch for latest ddraw.dll! Has somebody any fixes?
[13:07] <ajinkya> wormer , about firefox ?
[13:07] <grawity> need_help: you can install the CCSM if you want to configure what exactly effects you want to see.
[13:07] <grawity> !ccsm | need_help
[13:07] <Wormer> ajinkya, ies4linux helps install IE on Linux. For example, for web-desighn
[13:07] <merlin2049er> how do i change permissions on a folder?
[13:07] <anachronik_> Wormer, you can also install the add on for FF
[13:07] <slayton_> merlin2049er, chmod
[13:08] <anachronik_> who opens a tab like IE
[13:08] <ajinkya> wormer
[13:08] <scunizi> merlin2049er: what do you want to change them to?
[13:08] <blind|melon|chit> does anyone know what package i would have to install to get nmap's scripting engine in 9.04 to actually work? :>
[13:08] <Wormer> merlin2049er, I am using Konqueror or terminal, gnome is too bad for me
[13:08] <need_help> grawity, okie
[13:08] <merlin2049er> writeable to all
[13:08] <blind|melon|chit> it fails every time with the same errors
[13:08] <om26er> plz tell me is there a way yo start the installation of any distro from ubuntu
[13:08] <om26er> without booting
[13:08] <cowgarden> Pici, in synaptic it looks like this: http://q-garden.de/screens/tmp_98_38900.png should be allright, shouldn't it?
[13:08] <scunizi> merlin2049er: what folder? in /home?
[13:08] <Wormer> anachronik_, thank you very much, what's the name of this addon?
[13:08] <slayton_> om26er, not sure what you're asking but I'm thinking the answer is no
[13:08] <merlin2049er> /usr/share/vuze
[13:08] <anachronik_> let me check it out Wormer
[13:09] <scunizi> merlin2049er: sudo chmod 777 /usr/share/vuze
[13:09] <ActionParsnip> Pici: yeah was a half ass kernel install
[13:09] <slayton_> Wormer, its called IE Tab (If I remember correctly) but it requires that the IE engine already be installed so I don't think it will work in linux
[13:09] <om26er> slayton_ is there any software to work as daemon tools
[13:09] <slayton_> om26er, to do what
[13:09] <om26er> virtual image
[13:09] <grawity> om26er: Linux supports that by itself.
[13:09] <anachronik_> lol
[13:09] <slayton_> om26er, what do you want to do?
[13:10] <anachronik_> the guy went away
[13:10] <anachronik_> neverthelsss the add on is called "IE view"
[13:10] <merlin2049er> i don't think that worked
[13:11] <slayton_> anachronik_, so many people join and leave I have join/part notifications turned off... sometimes I write to people who aren't there
[13:11] <scunizi> you can ls -la /usr/share/vuze to verify
[13:11] <cousteau> ok, I'm trying to recompile the notify-osd package.. let's see if I find where the OSD position is set
[13:11] <zeroXten> so, anyone managed to manually build/install nvidia drivers on jaunty? Its driving me nuts?
[13:12] <slayton_> zeroXten, have you tried using envyNG?
[13:12] <Sigi1> is it posible to change usb remote control key maps ?
[13:12] <zeroXten> slayton_: no, can it use a specific version from nvidias site?
[13:12] <merlin2049er> ok maybe it did
[13:12] <ActionParsnip> !envy | slayton_
[13:12] <scunizi> slayton_: zeroXten don't use envyNG unless you want to risk breaking your system later
[13:12] <legend2440> !nvidia > me
[13:13] <rek> how can i run compiz with a nvidia geforce 2
[13:13] <slayton_> scunizi, envyNG is no less a risk then installing the nvidia provided binary
[13:13] <zeroXten> scunizi: ok, but what about manually installing one from their website? (not that I can get it to even build)
[13:13] <slayton_> !BinaryDriver | zeroXten,
[13:13] <scunizi> zeroXten: deactivate the nvidia driver that comes with ubuntu if you've activated it.. then open synaptic and uninstall the nvidia drivers listed there.
[13:13] <anachronik_> slayton_, when on hybernation, what's the way to get out of it?
[13:14] <anachronik_> do you know it?
[13:14] <ActionParsnip> rek: install nvidia-glx-71  I think (does gksudo jockey-gtk not show anything?)
[13:14] <slayton_> anachronik_, usually I press the power button.... but I've only had hiberation work on one of my several computers (under linux)
[13:14] <scunizi> zeroXten: then you have a couple of easy things to do but I'll write it up and pastebin it for you.
[13:14] <anachronik_> okay, thanks
[13:15] <rek> ActionParsnip:  propietary drivers in use
[13:16] <rek> how can i setup the zd1211 zydas wif usb lan adapter in damn small linux ?
[13:16] <rek> wifi*
[13:16] <zeroXten> thanks ubottu, but why is there so little mention of 9.04? It kinda gives the wrong impression
[13:16] <puppyfans> o
[13:16] <ActionParsnip> rek: dsl != ubuntu
[13:17] <puppyfans> o
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> rek: ask in #dsl or #ubuntu-offtopc
[13:17] <rek> ActionParsnip: i know
[13:17] <rek> it's a small chan
[13:17] <puppyfans> o
[13:17] <ActionParsnip> rek: this is the support channel for ubuntu only
[13:17] <rek> but anyone who uses linux should be able to answer
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> rek: possibly but not in here
[13:18] <need_help> how to reset settings of Gnome Desktop i try control +shit + backspace didn't work on ubunt 9.04 thx
[13:18] <slayton_> rek try in ##linux
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> rek: #ubuntu-offtopic may be able to help
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> !dontzap | need_help
[13:18] <rek> ;-) ok but also here this is a large chan
[13:18] <sensiblethief> ASUUUUUUUUU
[13:18] <_raven_> what is the name of the BOOTfile sys-res-cd boots up from?
[13:18] <ActionParsnip> rek: dosnt matter on the size,dsl is offtopic here
[13:19] <sensiblethief> pidgin gag bisa jalan kenapa ya,..?
[13:19] <sensiblethief> help m e please
[13:19] <rek> ok
[13:19] <ActionParsnip> sensiblethief: read the message of the day when you joined the channel
[13:19] <need_help> ActionParsnip,  is  control  +alt +backspace on u buntu 9.04 don't wokr?
[13:19] <slayton_> rek there are 863 people in ##linux
[13:20] <rek> i've just seen slayton_
[13:20] <rek> quite good
[13:20] <scunizi> zeroXten: http://pastebin.com/f744f4974
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> need_help: it can if you follow the !dontzap guide. Its been changed to prntscrn + alt + k
[13:20] <scunizi> zeroXten: keep in mind that with every kernel upgrade you'll have to reinstall.
[13:20] <ActionParsnip> need_help: but if you follow that guide you can get the original way back
[13:21] <need_help> ActionParsnip, okie thx
[13:21] <ActionParsnip> need_help: apparently people "accidentally" press ctrl+alt+backspace....
[13:24] <jway> does anyone know why my sshfs takes ages to mount a remote directory? my colleague mounts in 5 seconds whereas I mount in 2 minutes
[13:24] <jamiewan> hi guys having dvd problems, finally got movie player Xine to play but to colour settings are all screwed up, any suggestions, i have spent all day installing libraries and other fixes but no good
[13:24] <DVA5912> Installing ububtu on new pc. it has an AMD 64 pc so i guessing that it is 64 bit compatible. Whats the advantage of useing 64 bit over 32
[13:24] <gabriel> Good Morning everyone
[13:24] <gofer> hi
[13:24] <pandi2456> hi too
[13:24] <pandi2456> :D
[13:24] <aiarakoa> hi
[13:24] <scunizi> jamiewan: Xine I think has a method of adjusting it graphically
[13:25] <gofer> co to angielski kanal i mowia po  polsku ?: P
[13:25] <grawity> !pl | gofer
[13:25] <pbn> Hi there I've got a 8.04 LTS machine on a dial-up connection. I've gotten all the .deb packages to upgrade it on a USB key. How do I install them, other than typing 121 times dpkg -i <packagename>.deb ?
[13:26]  * DVA5912 takes a number and goes to sit in the waiting room
[13:26] <MaWaLe> !mibbit
[13:26] <gabriel> I have a little problem with my Geforce 6150LE on ubuntu, every time I boot in Ubuntu 9.04 I see the screen too bright,but when I click on Nvidia xserver settings the problem disappears, how can I fix this?
[13:27] <MaWaLe> did someone know why did freenode nomore connect from mibbit gateway????
[13:27] <Pici> MaWaLe: Ask in #freenode
[13:27] <jamiewan> scunizi:saturation and hue are the only options i can see can u suggest a reliable alternative for just playing dvds no problem?
[13:27] <scunizi> pbn: you may have the packages but you might not have the dependancies.. you can do the upgrade to 8.10 with the alternate cd and then go to 9.04 if you want..
[13:27] <scunizi> jamiewan: vlc & mplayer
[13:27] <pbn> scunizi: no I wanna stick with 8.04 LTS, sorry...
[13:28] <scunizi> pbn: then what are you upgrading?
[13:28] <DVA5912> Installing ububtu on new pc. it has an AMD 64 pc so i guessing that it is 64 bit compatible. Whats the advantage of useing 64 bit over 32
[13:28] <aiarakoa> I'm trying to uninstall Citrix but I don't know how to do it; http://ubuntuguide.org/wiki/Ubuntu:Feisty says that using setupwfc, however it's not in my PC; I downloaded the tar.gz from citrix and it does neither work
[13:29] <DVA5912> ...
[13:29] <pbn> scunizi: well I'm installing from the 8.04.2 CD, but even with that, aptitude upgrade needs to update stuff. And it's a dialup line, so it would be awgfully slow, so I've downlaoded the necessaries .deb on a USB key
[13:29] <scunizi> Pici: you got something happening to your machine
[13:29] <Pici> Sorry for the traffic folks.
[13:29] <Pici> scunizi: no, that was on purpose.
[13:29] <pbn> damnit, what's going with these channel modes ?
[13:29] <gggg> what's the command to upgrade from ubuntu 8.10 to ubuntu 9.04?
[13:30] <jamiewan> scunizi: i've been trying those toady also, checked all the repositories are correct and still no good, mplayer ok but also colors wrong
[13:31] <legend2440> !64 | DVA5912
[13:31] <gabriel> I have a little problem with my Geforce 6150LE on ubuntu, every time I boot in Ubuntu 9.04 I see the screen too bright,but when I click on Nvidia xserver settings the problem disappears, how can I fix this?
[13:31] <scunizi> pbn: give it a shot.. aptoncd might be what you really need to install them all without going nuts..
[13:31] <gggg> is there any command to install ubuntu 9.04 from ubuntu 8.10?
[13:31] <Zeebo> upgrade-manager?
[13:31] <DVA5912> legend2440: what took ya? :P
[13:31] <pbn> scunizi: ah ok, gonna rtfm about aptoncd...
[13:31] <scunizi> jamiewan: I had that issue on one of my machines.. never could figure out how to make the color correction stick..
[13:31] <cousteau> ok, so I have to edit the last lines of "defaults.c" on the notify-osd source...
[13:32] <scunizi> !aptoncd | pbn
[13:32] <pbn> !offline
[13:32] <gabriel> ddd> update-manager -d on Terminal
[13:32] <jamiewan> scunizi: yes a problem i'll perservere with thanx
[13:32] <zeroXten> scunizi: any idea why nothing is appearing in proprietary drivers?
[13:33] <scunizi> zeroXten: did you use envyng or install directly? or uninstall the drivers via synaptic?
[13:33] <DVA5912> 64 bit requires more compiling? Am i understanding that right? id have to compile my nvidia drivers?
[13:33] <gabriel> gggg> update-manager -d on terminal
[13:33] <zeroXten> scunizi: i've installed via synaptic (180)
[13:34] <legend2440> DVA5912: i too have AMD64 but have never tried ubuntu 64 because there used to be problems with things like flashplayer but those problems may have been sorted out by now
[13:34] <gggg> gabriel, is it "update-manager -d" ? will it do the job to install ubuntu 9.04 from ubuntu 8.10?
[13:34] <zeroXten> i've got a Quadro NVS 160M
[13:34] <kilior> how to share files between guest OS and host OS when use KVM?
[13:34] <scunizi> zeroXten: not sure.. you might try restarting
[13:35] <DVA5912> SO really its just better performance with 64 bit?
[13:35] <gabriel> yes, gggg, but first you need to have all the updates installed from ubuntu 8.10
[13:35] <Pici> gggg, gabriel: Do not use that command to upgrade to 9.04.
[13:35] <Pici> gabriel: That is only for upgrading to the development release, which is no longer 9.04.
[13:35] <gggg> Pici, so which command would i use?
[13:35] <zeroXten> scunizi: k
[13:35]  * DVA5912 downloads the 32 bit version of 8.04 LTS
[13:35] <Pici> gggg: use -p instead.
[13:35] <dominic_> does anyone know anything about installing macosx on a windows pc
[13:36] <dominic_> ive been having issues all day
[13:36] <DVA5912> How stable is teh 9.04
[13:36] <gabriel> I tried the AMD 64 version on my AMD Athlon x2 3800+ and it gave me a lot of trouble
[13:36] <gggg> Pici, why should not i use "upgrade-manager -d" and do you mean "upgrade-manager -p" ?
[13:36] <scunizi> dominic_: not here.. this is the ubuntu assistance channel
[13:36] <DVA5912> last time i tryed it my system locked up all the time
[13:36] <zeroXten> scunizi: reboot didn't help
[13:36] <full308> hi there
[13:36] <scunizi> zeroXten: does any other driver show?
[13:37] <full308> any one here run ubuntu server
[13:37] <Pici> gggg: upgrade-manager -d tells it to upgrade to the latest development release, which is Karmic at this point. You don't want to do that.
[13:37] <zeroXten> scunizi: nope, nothing
[13:37] <gabriel> I have a little problem with my Geforce 6150LE on ubuntu, every time I boot in Ubuntu 9.04 I see the screen too bright,but when I click on Nvidia xserver settings the problem disappears, how can I fix this?
[13:37] <scunizi> zeroXten: did they show prior to installing the 180 driver?
[13:37] <gggg> Pici, if it is ubuntu 8.10 than should i use "update-manager -d"?
[13:37] <zeroXten> hmm, one sec
[13:38] <Pici> gggg: No. You should never use -d unless you are planning on testing an alpha/beta version of Ubuntu.
[13:39] <gggg> Pici, so how would i upgrade the ubuntu version from 8.10 to 9.04?
[13:39] <Pici> gggg: desktop or server?
[13:40] <DexterF> hi
[13:40] <gggg> Pici, desktop
[13:40] <DVA5912> How can ubuntu be installed with out a cd? Im getting a laptop off of ebay but the thing has not cd drive on it (probrubly why they only want 170) it has 700 some odd memory and a 30 gb hd
[13:40] <Pici> gggg: If you need to use the command line, the proper command would be: do-release-upgade -p -m desktop
[13:40] <DexterF> does ubuntu detect flash media and apply appropriate mount options like noatime to prevent wear out?
[13:40] <dominic_> how do i install flash on ubuntu
[13:41] <dominic_> ???
[13:41] <Pici> !flash | dominic_
[13:41] <dominic_> ok
[13:41] <pandi2456> dominic, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:41] <dominic_> ok
[13:42] <theoryx> dominic_ , open terminal and type : sudo apt-get install flashplugin-non-free
[13:42] <pandi2456> yup
[13:42] <scunizi> zeroXten: you're not running ubuntu in a vm are you?
[13:42] <gggg> Pici, do you mean "do-release-upgade -p -m desktop" ?
[13:42] <dominic_> nope
[13:42] <dominic_> just regular
[13:42] <gggg> Pici, there is nothing command like "do-release-upgade -p -m desktop"
[13:42] <FlyNut> I'm having problems receiving DCC files in Xchat and Konversation. does any one have a sugestion?
[13:43] <zeroXten> scunizi: i've got proprietry drivers to see "nvidia" (no version?) but can't use nvidia-settings
[13:43] <zeroXten> scunizi: no vm
[13:43] <scunizi> zeroXten: try nvidia-xconfig
[13:43] <dominic_> its says it cant find the package
[13:43] <Pici> gggg: do-release-upgrade -p -m desktop   sorry, typo
[13:43] <dominic_> E: Couldn't find package flashplugin-non-free
[13:43] <legend2440> its   flashplugin-nonfree
[13:43] <zeroXten> validation error =/
[13:43] <gggg> Pici, what's the command?
[13:44] <Pici> gggg: do-release-upgrade -p -m desktop
[13:44] <cousteau> still trying...
[13:44] <dominic_>  sudo apt-get install flashplugin-non-free
[13:44] <cousteau> let's see if this works
[13:44] <Pici> dominic_: no, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[13:44] <gggg> "do-release-upgade -p -m desktop" ? are you sure?
[13:44] <dominic_> o lol
[13:44] <theoryx> oops, my bad
[13:44] <pandi2456> lol
[13:44] <gggg> Pici, "do-release-upgade -p -m desktop" ? are you sure?
[13:45] <Pici> gggg: I mispelled it the first time. make sure you're spelling upgrade properly.
[13:45] <scunizi> zeroXten: did you try to install the drivers direct from nvidia?
[13:45] <dominic_> lets hope this works lets go on youtube and see! :)
[13:46] <pandi2456> ameen
[13:46] <asfjio> hello, is there a log file for remote desktop of ubuntu?
[13:46] <dominic_> yey it works thanks ;)
[13:46] <dominic_> but there is no Sound
[13:46] <dominic_> y
[13:46] <pandi2456> try to see your volume
[13:46] <dominic_> ok
[13:47] <gggg> Pici,thanks, but man "do-release-upgrade" says nothing
[13:47] <Pici> gggg: do-release-upgrade --help   does
[13:47] <ubu1> I have a problem. I cannot play videos from CnetTv, but i have Flash and Youtube also run normal. Please, help.
[13:47] <dominic_> nope still no sound pandi
[13:47] <dominic_> why is ubuntu so complex lol
[13:48] <DVA5912> If a notebook im anting has 700 mb of ram and a 30 gb had disk would it be better to get a netbook?
[13:48] <DVA5912> wanting*
[13:48] <theoryx> dominic_ you have no sound when trying to read flash animations ?
[13:48] <ubu1> I have a problem. I cannot play videos from CnetTv, but i have Flash and Youtube also run normal. Please, help.
[13:49] <dominic_> for anything no sound for mp3 files youtube videos
[13:49] <iggy1> hello, i need some help.. i installed nvidia drivers and after reboot, my screen is blank and computer freezes.. i already tried older/newer drivers but its always the same.. xorg log sais it cannot load "glx" because it cant find the driver nvidia
[13:49] <gggg> Pici, thanks
[13:49] <ubu1> I have a problem. I cannot play videos from CnetTv, but i have Flash and Youtube also run normal. Please, help.
[13:49] <Pici> !repeat | ubu1
[13:49] <gggg> Pici, but if i upgrade to 9.04 will all installed package be gone ?
[13:49] <theoryx> dominic_ : you have the startup sound when you boot Ubuntu ?
[13:49] <iggy1> ubu1: have you tried plugin mediaplayerconnectivity?
[13:49] <dominic_> let me check ill be right back
[13:49] <theoryx> brb
[13:50] <theoryx> ok
[13:50] <aurilliance> My mouse just stoped working (it was working a few seconds ago) usb mouse btw. Is there a command I can use to refresh all devices or something?
[13:50] <ubu1> No. How to do this?
[13:50] <DVA5912> aurilliance, might check the connection
[13:50] <pandi2456> ??
[13:50] <iggy1> ubu1: just download the plugin and restart FF
[13:50] <gggg> Pici, do i have to reinstall every package that i installed in ubuntu 8.10 ,if i upgrade it from ubuntu 8.10 to ubuntu 9.04?
[13:51] <vatts> graaaaaaaah!
[13:51] <scunizi> aurilliance: try it in a different slot.. preferrably not on a hub
[13:51] <vatts> i hate xp :)
[13:51] <Pici> gggg: No, that wouldn't be much of an upgrade if you had to do that...
[13:51] <ubu1> I will try. Thanks.
[13:51] <gabriel> gggg, No, It is a new release
[13:51] <pandi2456> vatts, lol
[13:51] <aurilliance> DVA5912: it's connectd, but the usb plug isn't sendingh the mouse power, because it doesn't light up. I'm installing lots of apps atm, that's probably why
[13:51]  * vatts has asploded (Success)
[13:51] <DVA5912> aurilliance: it could be. More power to the hd. ... might suggest a better PSU?
[13:52]  * vatts smells some f00dz
[13:52] <gggg> Pici, so my installed packages and software will be in ubuntu 9.04?
[13:52] <Pici> !ot | vatts
[13:52]  * grawity smells vatts
[13:52] <aurilliance> DVA5912: on a laptop :P
[13:52] <Pici> gggg: Yes.
[13:52]  * vatts slaps grawity around a bit with a large trout
[13:52] <gggg> Pici, thanks
[13:52] <Pici> vatts: Please stop.
[13:52] <zeroXten> scunizi: sort, cheers thanks
[13:52] <gggg> gabriel, thanks
[13:52] <DVA5912> aurilliance: oh lol. umm...... pluged in?
[13:52] <scunizi> zeroXten: what happened?
[13:52] <DVA5912> aurilliance: to the wall i mean
[13:52] <gabriel> your welcome'
[13:53] <aurilliance> DVA5912: yep
[13:53] <DVA5912> aurilliance: you done installing now?
[13:53] <dominic_> nope no sound when boot up
[13:53] <aurilliance> nah, 1hr left (Loooooots of apps :P) I'll try a restart when i'm done, I'm sure that'll fix it. in the meantime Ill use the trackpad
[13:53] <theoryx> dominic_ thats what i thought.
[13:54] <dominic_> so what now
[13:54] <bill-e1> dominic, did you check that ispeaker is on?
[13:54] <DVA5912> my mind is going crazy. i dont want to leave windows 7 but when i think about leaving ubuntu i cant do it ether. i dont know which OS to use :(
[13:54] <theoryx> dominic_ open the sound control and make sure nothing is muted
[13:55] <dominic_> ok um bill yes they are on
[13:55] <Neji123> Hej, im about to kill Pidgin hard, how do I turn off the annoying messeges in top right screen whenever someone sends me a messege and im not watching his conversation window
[13:55] <scunizi> DVA5912: windows 7 is beta so run it in ubuntu in virtualbox.. both at the same time open and running :)
[13:55] <aurilliance> q: can anyone point me to instruction on getting wacom bamboo drivers for ubuntu?
[13:55] <DVA5912> scunizi: wrong. windows 7 is rc./ i have the rc
[13:55] <dominic_> yep everything is not muted
[13:55] <scunizi> DVA5912: ok.. rc.. run it in a vm
[13:56] <DVA5912> lol
[13:56] <petsounds> hello, how can i send songs to ipod ? thank you
[13:56] <erUSUL> !ipod
[13:56] <DVA5912> !zune
[13:56] <DVA5912> lol
[13:56] <aurilliance> !wacom
[13:56] <DVA5912> worth a shot :P
[13:56] <erUSUL> !botabuse > DVA5912
[13:56] <dominic_> wacom is a pen tablet
[13:56] <DVA5912> it want abuse!
[13:57] <DVA5912> it was a legit inquery
[13:57] <aurilliance> dominic_: yes
[13:57] <scunizi> aurilliance: wacom should just work with the latest kernel.. just "works" for me on 8.10
[13:57] <dominic_> so now my sound is not muted how do i get sound to come out my speakers
[13:57] <aurilliance> scunizi: just plug it in?
[13:57] <erUSUL> DVA5912: but queries should be done in priv with the bot; thanks :)
[13:58] <scunizi> aurilliance: yep.. the scroll wheel if you have one might not work.. and maybe the buttons on the pad but ..yes it will work..
[13:59] <aurilliance> scunizi: ^ ok. My mouse isn't working either atm (sucpected due to installing loads of apps in the bg) so ill try again once installations are done
[13:59] <aurilliance> ta
[13:59] <scunizi> aurilliance: if you're going to use it in inkscape, or gimp you'll need to look at those programs preferences to list it as a device.
[13:59] <aurilliance> yeah I've already done the gimp stuff before
[13:59] <theoryx> dominic_ im coming back in a few minutes. the same thing happened to me before
[14:00] <dominic_> ok im just going to london ill be back in 2
[14:00] <slestak> good morning.  i want to install 64bit jaunty on a machine that is currently 32bit 9.04.  I am not trying to convert, I will do a reinstall.  one thing i would like though is create a text dump of the packages I have installed (not in core) that I can use as an input file on the new install to "get it back" to where I have it.
[14:01] <slestak> aptoncd is not what i want because that makes debs right?
[14:01] <Pici> slestak: Right, these commands from ubottu should help though.
[14:01] <Pici> !clone > slestak
[14:02] <slestak> Pici: tyvm
[14:02] <Pici> slestak: Of course some packages (albeit not many) won't be available on 64bit, so you may not be able to install all of them.
[14:03] <asfjio> does vino have log file and if where it is?
[14:03] <gabriel> Hi everyone
[14:05] <tatanate> freenode
[14:06] <scunizi> Pici: are the packages you download from the repos when running 64bit, are they compiled as 64bit as well?
[14:06] <messi> /server irc://irc.abjects.net/
[14:07] <Dr_Willis> Hmm.. i diddent think the server command used a 'web type url' like that.
[14:07] <Dr_Willis>  /server  irc.abjects.net
[14:08] <Pici> scunizi: Each architecture requries that the binaries be compiled for them separately, so yes.
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  yes. they should be 64bit also.
[14:08] <grawity> Dr_Willis: no, /server doesn't use URLs.
[14:08] <grawity> (oh, and they aren't only "web type")
[14:08] <Pici> grawity: read again
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> grawity:  whatever. :)
[14:08] <grawity> Pici: Read what?
[14:08] <Dr_Willis> i found the term accuraate. :)
[14:08] <Pici> grawity: nevermind.
[14:09] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: Pici and for those packages you need that are only available on 32 bit, can they also be run in the 64bit environment in some fashion or do you have to go out and get the source to compile?
[14:09] <Dr_Willis> scunizi:  there are ways to get 32bit packages to work. (but ive never had to mess with that)
[14:10] <scunizi> Dr_Willis: nice to know.. I'm thinking those occational "break" times when you just need a couple of minutes to blow thing up.. getdeb.net is typically 32bit
[14:11] <HippyEwan1> Hey. The PNG plugin that comes with Gimp can't handle layers. Where can I get a better one that can?
[14:11] <Pici> !chroot > scunizi (this may provide some info)
[14:11] <packet-sent> The latest kernel update has broke my full drive encryption, when it now boots I am not being asked for my passphrase and so it cannot find my root partition,does anyone know of a fix?
[14:11] <scunizi> Pici: thanks
[14:11] <ubu1> I have a promblem. I can't play videos from CnetTv. I tried with plugin mediaplayerconnectivity, but it didn't work. Please, help.
[14:12] <niadh> can anyone help me with a samba share issue i can't figure out? I need to have a share thats guest accessable to both windows and linux machines and while i can open the share under linux without requireing a username or password windows insists i enter one
[14:12] <packet-sent> I can boot into the earlier kernel which does ask for a passphrase
[14:13] <aaronorosen> niadh: yea I've had that same problem idk why that occurs. But you can go to tools->mount hard drive something like that in windows and give the username and password so you don't have to keep entering it.
[14:14] <aaronorosen> niadh: if you figure out why it does that please PM me.
[14:15] <HippyEwan1> Hey. The PNG plugin that comes with Gimp can't handle layers. Where can I get a better one that can?
[14:16] <ewsubach> inetd isn't installed by default on ubuntu 9.04. Have they dropped it in favor of standalone daemons?
[14:17] <platius> slestak; http://www.ubuntugeek.com/howto-reinstall-all-of-currently-installed-packages-in-fresh-ubuntu-install.html    you might look here
[14:17] <packet-sent> Anyone use full drive encryption as offered by the alternative live cd found that the latest kernel breaks the set up by not asking for the passphrase  which then makes it impossible to mount root
[14:18] <ubu1>  I have a promblem. I can't play videos from CnetTv. I tried with plugin mediaplayerconnectivity, but it didn't work. Please, help.
[14:19] <exodus_ms> I know it's OT, but could someone try http://www.google.com and tell me if loads please
[14:20] <mrwes> exodus_ms, google is up
[14:20] <lstarnes> exodus_ms: it works for me
[14:20]  * exodus_ms grrrrr
[14:20] <exodus_ms> thanks mrwes lstarnes
[14:22] <ubu1> I have a promblem. I can't play videos from CnetTv. I tried with plugin mediaplayerconnectivity, but it didn't work. Please, help.
[14:22] <ubu1>  
[14:22] <Dr_Willis> Ive been using 'DeVeDe' to convert avi files to DVD format. it works well. but is awkward in ways,  what alternatives exist? (searching the repos now) :)
[14:22] <Wo_Ow> hi everyone, how do I install pkg files under Ubuntu jaunty?
[14:22] <slayton> Wo_Ow, what do you mean by pkg files?
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> Wo_Ow:  an 'autopackage' file ?
[14:23] <freelanceweb> HOw do I change the main domain of my ubuntu server?
[14:23] <Dr_Willis> http://www.autopackage.org/
[14:23] <ubu1> (15:11:54) ubu1: I have a promblem. I can't play videos from CnetTv. I tried with plugin mediaplayerconnectivity, but it didn't work. Please, help.
[14:23] <ewsubach> inetd isn't installed by default on ubuntu 9.04. Have they dropped it in favor of standalone daemons?
[14:23] <jrib> Wo_Ow: you should install your software from ubuntu's repositories using Synaptic or Add/Remove, not with pkg files whenever possible
[14:24] <Wo_Ow> I just downloaded a file whick has the end .pkg
[14:24] <jrib> Wo_Ow: what are you trying to install/accomplish?
[14:24] <Wo_Ow> its called GENtle
[14:25] <illovae> hey o/
[14:25] <Wo_Ow> it is not present in the official repositories as far as I know
[14:25] <metalpass> Is the Live cd the same thing as the regular install?
[14:26] <pepe19324234> ubuntu rules
[14:26] <metalpass> because my nvidia card i dont think is being seen
[14:26] <hc> back
[14:26] <packet-sent> anyone use full drive encryption as offered by alternative live cd?
[14:26] <Dr_Willis>  .pkg is not autopackage then  - they use '.package'
[14:27] <Wo_Ow> yes its definitely a .pkg
[14:27] <jrib> Wo_Ow: have you read: http://gentle.magnusmanske.de/ ?
[14:27] <jrib> Wo_Ow: I see a .pkg there for mac...
[14:27] <Dr_Willis> Wo_Ow:  that means very little :) they could of just shorted the extension. Or some other weirdnedss  :) or like jrib  says it may be for macs
[14:28] <Wo_Ow> I read the page and you either can compile it from source
[14:28] <Wo_Ow> which I cannot download via cvs
[14:28] <Wo_Ow> or you can download a linux binary with the end .pkg
[14:29] <l1k4n> How do I reinstall Ubuntu on dual boot with Vista?
[14:29] <slayton> Wo_Ow, why don't you just download the .tar.gz from the website
[14:29] <jrib> Wo_Ow: I don't see any .pkg for linux
[14:30] <l1k4n> If I set there wrong partition size when installing Ubuntu and Vista, where do I change the size so Ubuntu can work properly?
[14:30] <Wo_Ow> I did download it but there is no makefile.. I used to install something from source only a few times and it worked always like ./configure.. make.. install
[14:30] <Wo_Ow> but not with this tar.gz
[14:30] <y0u> How can i join to Quakenet? =S
[14:30] <slayton> Wo_Ow, not all programs require a make file... did you read the README
[14:31] <jrib> Wo_Ow: it's a binary.  I imagine you just run ./GENtle
[14:31] <metalpass> How does ubuntu do with a family desktop
[14:31] <Wo_Ow> ok I will try this
[14:31] <iceroot> y0u: /connect uk.quakenet.org
[14:31] <slayton> metalpass, great. I have one...
[14:32] <metalpass> slayton: Is it possible to have Parental Controls with it?
[14:32] <slayton> what kind of controls? metalpass?
[14:32] <y0u> Wont work :S
[14:32] <y0u> Btw how do i run .Run file ?
[14:33] <jrib> y0u: you avoid it.  What are you trying to accomplish?
[14:33] <metalpass> slayton: i want to restrict what they do. They only need to browse the internet, and play selected games, and have access to open office. Stuff like that
[14:33] <y0u> My drivers
[14:33] <illovae> y0u: chmod +x on it then ./file.run
[14:33] <slayton> metalpass, you can easily add remove programs and then just don't give the children administrative access... if you're looking for internet content filtering checkout opendns.org and leechblock
[14:33] <jrib> y0u: what drivers...?
[14:33] <y0u> ./Q me pls
[14:33] <jrib> !pm | y0u
[14:33] <slayton> metalpass, chances are you kids don't know how to use linux and even if they do they won't be able to make any changes to the system if you don't give them administrative privledges
[14:33] <y0u> I have used too much vista and now im using ubuntu 8.04
[14:34] <y0u> So need some help pls ;D
[14:34] <kharn> re
[14:34] <jrib> y0u: sure, but we can't help you if you don't answer questions
[14:34] <illovae> y0u: keep trying :}
[14:34] <Pici> !info dansguardian | metalpass (see also http://dansguardian.org/)
[14:34] <y0u> Just need to run .run file and install my umm fk... :D sec :D
[14:34] <kam00zy> hey guys
[14:34] <jrib> y0u: what drivers are you trynig to install?
[14:35] <y0u> graphic card
[14:35] <Wo_Ow> jrib, looks good but I need to add a library file to ubuntu, do you also know how that has to be done?
[14:35] <metalpass> slayton:  ok, well i guess what im looking for i will need to code then :) specificaly i want them to have like three buttons when they get on. one for Frefox, the other for the games / Apps folder and the third for Open Open Office. Looks like im coding
[14:35] <jrib> y0u: nvidia...?
[14:35] <y0u> Ati
[14:35] <jrib> Wo_Ow: the page I linked you to tells you what to run on ubuntu
[14:35] <slayton> metalpass, http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=226298
[14:35] <jrib> !ati > y0u
[14:35] <ganesh_> firefox not responds whenever i open any flash file.. how do i fix it?
[14:36] <Pici> metalpass: You may also want to look into the sabayon and Pessulus packages for locking down the gnome desktop.
[14:36] <y0u> ubottu:  I try your tips :)
[14:36] <y0u> :S
[14:36] <y0u> Aww
[14:36] <y0u> Someone else ?: S
[14:36] <metalpass> pici, il look into them
[14:36] <Wo_Ow> jrib I read it all but it does work except for libmysqlclient
[14:36] <metalpass> thanks people!
[14:36] <y0u> Got 5 virus from Vista because of Bot's
[14:36] <jrib> Wo_Ow: pastebin
[14:36] <Pici> y0u: ubottu is our channel's bot, it is safe.
[14:37] <y0u> oh
[14:37] <Wo_Ow> jrib what?
[14:37] <jrib> !pastebin | Wo_Ow
[14:38] <y0u> Well can someone help, because im a bit of noob with Ubuntu 8.04 Because im using a windows for like 6 years and now i used Linux like one week
[14:38] <mathew> Hello
[14:38] <jrib> y0u: did you read what ubottu sent you?
[14:38] <iceroot> !ask | y0u
[14:38] <Dr_Willis> When in doubt spend time reading/learning linux basics befor trying more advanced things.
[14:38] <y0u> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto Thats what ubottu gimme to me
[14:39] <jrib> y0u: right.  Did you read it?
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> IVe totally missed the actual problem.
[14:39] <mathew> Linux is so much better then windows or mac and I have all three
[14:39] <y0u> And i need to upgrade my Xpress 1250 graphic card
[14:39] <Dr_Willis> You mean you are going to go buy a new card?
[14:39] <Wo_Ow> jrib my output would be in german so no use for you.. when I try to apt-get libmysqlclient it will not be found, but I can download at sourceforge a file called libmysqlclient.so.12 so my hope is to add this file manually to ubuntu somehow and then GENtle will work
[14:40] <y0u> jrib:  yeah, But im not very good with LONG ENGLISH,  I Can listen / Read english but with long stories it not gonna worth
[14:40] <y0u> and im sorry with my bad english guys ;S
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> y0u:  thers other language-ubuntu support channels
[14:40] <Dr_Willis> !de
[14:40] <mathew> you seem  fine with it to me
[14:40] <iceroot> Wo_Ow: libmysqlclient16 - MySQL database client library
[14:41] <jrib> Wo_Ow: you need to remember that linux is not windows.  You don't downwload random files trying to install things
[14:41] <mathew> so what os do you like?
[14:41] <Pici> y0u: what is your native language?
[14:41] <iceroot> Wo_Ow: sudo apt-get install libmysqlclient16   (ubuntu 8.04) use apt-cache search libmysqlclient so find the correct one for you
[14:41] <y0u> Pici:  Finnish
[14:42] <Pici> y0u: Perhaps #ubuntu-fi can help you :)
[14:42] <y0u> Mm Thanks :)
[14:42] <Pici> y0u: Also your english was quite good.
[14:42] <y0u> ;D Thanks :p
[14:42] <Wo_Ow> jrib I know and with the synaptics I found that I already have libmysqlclient15
[14:42] <petllama> anyone familiar with ftpsync.pl usage?
[14:42] <Wo_Ow> but GENtle did not run
[14:42] <y0u> Not a pain when u read it :)
[14:42] <mathew> *is* quite good
[14:43] <iceroot> !anyone | petllama
[14:43] <Wo_Ow> jrib and this is the reply of the console to ./GENtle: ./GENtle: error while loading shared libraries: libmysqlclient.so.14: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
[14:44] <jrib> Wo_Ow: k, then I'd recommend you compile gentle yourself as its using a different version of that library
[14:44] <Wo_Ow> jrib thats what I was trying to do :)
[14:44] <mathew> I just got an HP 2009m to go with my inspiron 531S by DELL with a AMD 64 prosesser with windows vista
[14:44] <jrib> Wo_Ow: weren't you trying to use a .pkg?
[14:44] <samphippen> how do I play a dvd in ubuntu?#
[14:44] <samphippen> 9.04
[14:44] <jrib> !dvd | samphippen
[14:44] <mathew> HP 2009m Monitor. sorru
[14:44] <Dr_Willis> !dvd | samphippen
[14:44] <mathew> *srry*
[14:45] <Wo_Ow> jrib the problem is to download the sourcecode.. the cvs commands  from the magnus manske website dont work
[14:45] <jrib> Wo_Ow: pastebin
[14:45] <petllama> whats params would i use in ftpsync.pl to use it for backing up a directory with subdirs, only uploading files that have been changed since the last backup. what would the syntax be
[14:45] <jrib> Wo_Ow: you can use LC_ALL=C to make everything english
[14:46] <genii> Wo_Ow: Maybe check http://packages.ubuntu.com/search?searchon=contents&keywords=libmysqlclient.so&mode=exactfilename&suite=jaunty&arch=any
[14:46] <Wo_Ow> jrib http://sourceforge.net/scm/?type=cvs&group_id=89980 here are the commands and the reply from the console is nothing.. no source will be downloaded
[14:46] <jrib> Wo_Ow: pastebin your terminal session
[14:46] <mathew> anyone here a computer programmer?
[14:47] <stonedchef> DCC SED 76857485739283
[14:47] <stonedchef> [#crackhouse]
[14:48] <Guest61669> i have an ubuntu question regarding VMware
[14:48] <Wo_Ow> jrib http://pastebin.com/m7a015b36
[14:48] <Guest61669> i cant get the driver to install in the guest OS
[14:48] <jrib> Wo_Ow: and the next command?
[14:48] <Guest61669> i have installed vmtools
[14:48] <Guest61669> that fixed the graphic driver problem
[14:48] <Guest61669> but not the NIC driver
[14:49] <Guest61669> ?vmware
[14:49] <Guest61669> !help
[14:49] <Guest61669> !vmware
[14:49] <Wo_Ow> jrib at the second command you have to specify a module of the program but I want all, everything is here I think: http://gentle-m.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/gentle-m/
[14:49] <jrib> Wo_Ow: I'm asking to see what you ran
[14:49] <aurilliance> my bamboo wacom tablet works when I plug it in (jaunty) but the eraser cursor does not register xinput --list shows only "wacom6x8", not seperate inputs for eraser and pen... anyone have any suggestions?
[14:49] <jrib> Wo_Ow: I've already checked out the source
[14:50] <Guest61669> !qemu
[14:51] <Wo_Ow> jrib oh ok when I specify the module name as "GENtle" it downloads it all?
[14:51] <jrib> Wo_Ow: yes
[14:51] <Wo_Ow> jrib you rokc
[14:52] <pbn> Hi, I heard that "all Centrino based laptops have their wireless adapter supported in Ubuntu 8.04 LTS", is that correct ? Do I have to install some packages ?
[14:52] <xukun> what do I need to do if I want my bluetooth keyboard to work?
[14:52] <tehbaut> is the standard download cd a live disk? or just an installer?
[14:52] <Egoo> both
[14:54] <aurilliance> can anyone suggest a site I can follow to turn jaunty into studio?
[14:54] <sky_11> aurilliance: ubuntu wiki
[14:54] <erUSUL> pbn: is correct as far as i know intel wifi chips are well supported
[14:54] <bazhang> install ubuntustudio-desktop aurilliance
[14:54] <aurilliance> thnx both
[14:55] <iashwaniarora> hi
[14:56] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  you trying to use the eraser in GIMP? or some other app?
[14:56] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  how do i merge the two taks bars into one, on the bottom ideally.
[14:57] <iashwaniarora> can anyone tell me how to install gstreamer library
[14:57] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis: trying to use it in gimp yes, but it doesn't register in gimp>edit>preferences>advanced input
[14:57] <xukun> the bluetooth dongel is detected by my keyboard is paired. Any help would be appreciated
[14:57] <bsl> guys, does system-V attempt to run all scripts in /etc/init.d/ or do I need to add my new script in a specific file?
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> aurilliance:  ok.. Just checking
[14:57] <aurilliance> Dr_Willis: it only shows "bamboo6x8" whereas on my other pc it shows 2 input devices, the pen and the eraser :(
[14:57] <iashwaniarora> CAN ANYONE TELL ME
[14:57] <aurilliance> kk
[14:57] <Dr_Willis> !find gstreamer
[14:57] <aurilliance> sudo apt-get install gstreamer?
[14:58] <Ffunk74> iashwaniarora, sudo aptitude install gstreamer[press tab button]
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> iashwaniarora:  use package manager.. serch for it.. click and install.
[14:58] <Ffunk74> iashwaniarora, twice
[14:58] <iashwaniarora> thanks aurilliance
[14:58] <xukun> anybody?
[14:58] <sky_11> Dr_Willis: he should learn both way
[14:58] <tehbaut> is it possible to have a version of the live disk on a usb flash drive, but be able to save changes to it, then later reload the changed environment, and also install it to the machine being run on? Is that too much to ask, or can it be done?
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> sky_11:  people should learn to read the basics of the docs also. :)
[14:58] <Dr_Willis> !training
[14:59] <iashwaniarora> thanks dr willis and Ffunk
[14:59] <bsl> hello? where do I need to add information about my new startup scrpit in init.d
[14:59] <zgmf-x20a> tehbaut: yes it is desined like that.  it utilizes persistence
[14:59] <sky_11> Dr_Willis: not all people understand advanced english...communication is good
[14:59] <tehbaut> zgmf-x20a, so it knows whether it's being run from a writable environment?
[15:00] <sky_11> tehbaut: it can be done
[15:00] <iratiku> How do I install php 5.3 on 8.04 LTS. I've installed all the updates through apt , apt-get update / apt-get upgrade , dpkg -l | grep php still shows php 5.2.3, most likely because the repos for 8.04 don't have php 5.3 and never will. Installing from source will be a nightmare as there are many compilation options provided by php5-mysql, php5-curl etc that I do not have the skills to know how to do by making from source.   What are other wa
[15:00] <iratiku> ys of upgrading to php 5.3 in 8.04 ?
[15:00] <bsl> cmon guys, this should be a one word answer, please help
[15:00] <zgmf-x20a> tehbaut: what version are you running?  with 8.10 yu can use persistence, and it will keep track of it.  you can save files etc,
[15:00] <sky_11> tehbaut: give me sec
[15:01] <santtu> joi
[15:01] <santtu> #ubuntu-fi
[15:01] <gabriel> Hello
[15:01] <santtu> hi
[15:01] <ratdeptrai> bsl: not clear what "add information" means, but you might want to read the man-page for update-rc.d
[15:01] <sky_11> gabriel: !welcome
[15:01] <sipior> iratiku: if you're not prepared to build from source, upgrading your version of ubuntu is likely the only option.
[15:01] <tehbaut> zgmf-x20a, I have 8.10 but am now looking at 9.04
[15:02] <bsl> ratdeptrai: thanks, that's all I needed
[15:02] <bsl> ratdeptrai: didn't know what man page to read
[15:02] <gabriel> I have a question: how do you make work the 3g card that comes with the acer one aspire?
[15:02] <msaraujo> I need to restart my daemon sound
[15:02] <msaraujo> how to do that?
[15:02] <msaraujo> lsof | grep pcm does not give me anything
[15:02] <sky_11> gabriel: what graphic card ? graphic drivers ?
[15:02] <Dr_Willis> My AcerAspireOne dident come with a 3g card....
[15:03] <alpharesearch> is there a crond mode that executes scripts for sure... if PC is powered down and scripts shod run it is run the next time the PC turns on for example... I need this for rsnapshot, any idea how to set this up?
[15:03] <ratdeptrai> bsl: you'll probably want to add some meta-data at the beginning of the script which is used by update-rc.d -- use any existing script as a template.
[15:03] <gabriel> Its the one that has a 160 gb hard drive
[15:03] <sipior> bsl: do you know about apropos? try "man -k init", for example. easy way to narrow down to useful man pages.
[15:03] <ratdeptrai> bsl: /etc/init.d/skeleton
[15:03] <bsl> ratdeptrai: k, i see the skeleton
[15:03] <sky_11> msaraujo: alsa ?
[15:04] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  there are several AAO threads in the forums and wiki pages.. I would check there.
[15:04] <bsl> sipior: no i did not, thank you
[15:04] <msaraujo> sky_11: yes
[15:04] <msaraujo> is it alsa-utils?
[15:04] <gabriel> I have tried looking on google and nothing
[15:04] <msaraujo> HDA(Intel Mixer)
[15:04] <sky_11> msaraujo: sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart
[15:04] <gabriel> the laptop has a 3g card to connect to the internet
[15:04] <msaraujo> (Alsa Mixer)
[15:04] <jrib>  /what
[15:05] <alpharesearch> I would like to insure that rsnapshot runs weekly and monthly... but i can not make sure my PC is on at this time... kind like outlook calender reminders that pop up after event is over....
[15:05] <msaraujo> sky_11: I have a sound loop here
[15:05] <Dr_Willis> gabriel:  i knwo theres a large AAO thread in the forums/wiki pages..   you may need to determine the exact chipset/brand of 3g card.  'one that came with' is a big vague.
[15:05] <msaraujo> if I stop the daemon, the loop stops
[15:05] <msaraujo> if I restart it, the loop continues also
[15:05] <gabriel> It is a Qualcomm
[15:05] <msaraujo> annoying sound
[15:05] <gabriel> card
[15:05] <msaraujo> repetitive annoying sound
[15:06] <msaraujo> sky_!!
[15:06] <msaraujo> oops sky_11
[15:06] <ulysses> NickServ
[15:06] <ulysses> NickServ password
[15:06] <gabriel> It is the Acer One ZG5
[15:06] <ulysses> ./ash\
[15:06] <sipior> alpharesearch: have a look at anacron.
[15:06] <ulysses> exit
[15:06] <sky_11> msaraujo: well..
[15:07] <J_P> hi all, anyone know a flash editor for linux?
[15:07] <crash> hi guys,anybody else having problems installing / upgrading phpmyadmin? keeps saying access denied for me even though i typed the correct p/word
[15:07] <msaraujo> sky_11: rhythm box forces quit
[15:07] <sky_11> J_P: like macromedia flash ?
[15:07] <RoyK> for how long is a non-lts-version of ubuntu server supported?
[15:07] <alpharesearch> thanks sipior, looks like this is exactly what I'm looking for!
[15:08] <sky_11> RoyK: to the next release ?
[15:08] <sky_11> RoyK: 1 year i think
[15:08] <J_P> sky_11: yes
[15:09] <sipior> RoyK: 18 months, iirc. (7.10 was just cast adrift with the release of 9.04)
[15:09] <sky_11> J_P: dont know about .fla because is closed format :X
[15:09] <bsl> ratdeptrai: thanks again, all done
[15:12] <iratiku> I can't upgrade because of a bug (http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=986347)
[15:13] <andruk> having trouble reinstalling postgres-8.3
[15:13] <andruk> having trouble reinstalling postgres-8.3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199292/
[15:14] <fasta> I have the option of getting my hands on a ridiculously fast machine. Is it possible to just get the harddisk out of my current machine and expect Ubuntu to boot, so I can continue work?
[15:15] <rohan> will ubuntu 9.04 get final version of firefox 3.5 when it's out?
[15:15] <AlienDK> dude
[15:15] <AlienDK> it IS out
[15:15] <AlienDK> :P
[15:15] <rohan> AlienDK: no, it is not.
[15:15] <AlienDK> ubuntu 9.04?
[15:15] <elcomprendo> hello
[15:15] <AlienDK> Hello
[15:15] <sky_11> AlienDK: firefox 3.5
[15:15] <AlienDK> oh
[15:15] <rohan> AlienDK: no, my question was about firefox 3.5
[15:15] <AlienDK> sorry
[15:15] <andruk> fasta: you may have to reinstall grub (theres plenty of guides online how to do that) so you will probably need a ubuntu livecd (no, you wont reinstall ubuntu, just the bootloader, your data will be safe) before you start.  but yes.
[15:15] <AlienDK> I misunderstood you :P
[15:16] <t-o-m-p-p-a> Hi, could someone help me with a problem connecting vinagre to tightvnc-server running gnome-desktop trough ssh. Both computers have Ubuntu 9.04 installed.
[15:16] <sky_11> rohan: i dont think its FF 3.5 out
[15:16] <russdot> has anyone ever tried testing a windows exe for memory leaks using wine under valgrind?
[15:16] <rohan> sky_11: no, it is not
[15:16] <fasta> andruk: by "may" do you mean that I have to, or that you don't know, but that I might have to do it?
[15:16] <sky_11> rohan: so it cant be in repositories
[15:16] <andruk> t-o-m-p-p-a: did you follow the help on help.ubuntu.com for the VNC page?
[15:17] <andruk> fasta: i mean it depends on a variety of factors that i dont know - how the motherboards boot, how the bootloader is currently installed
[15:17] <sky_11> rohan: well you can install it from page
[15:17] <fasta> andruk: ok, thanks.
[15:18] <andruk> t-o-m-p-p-a: the reason i ask is that i was having problems with that too.  i had to ssh into the remote box with the -L option, and then run the vnc server on the remote machine, and then have vinagre connect to my local machine using the appropriate port
[15:19] <n0gear> fasta: you might need new drivers for your new hardware as well
[15:19] <andruk> n0gear: true, but it will at least boot.
[15:19] <t-o-m-p-p-a> The problem i have, is the following: " When i type something on my keyboard, the vnc- gnome types something else. The keyboard is all messed up"
[15:20] <fasta> n0gear: I think the vendor of the graphics card is the same and my sound isn't working now anyway (annoying broken Pulse).
[15:20] <elcomprendo> hi guys i tried changing the source code of my jaunty ubutu
[15:21] <sky_11> elcomprendo: dont do that
[15:21] <elcomprendo> then whenever i try to install something it does not work
[15:21] <n0gear> fasta: there was a way to copy all the package settings from old comp and then it would automatically install the same ones to new comp
[15:22] <Pici> elcomprendo: What source code did you modify?
[15:22] <n0gear> fasta: that way u could do a clean install
[15:23] <broken_> Hye guys I have a strange problem, I installed Jaunty last night and everythign was working great, this morning my wireless is completely dead. I rebooted and it doesn't even show me the option for wireless networking, lspci /doesn't/ show my card anymore while lsmod shows the ath5k module loaded. (Atheros based chipset)
[15:23] <n0gear> which program should i use to rip CDs to MP3?
[15:23] <Maveas> How do I switch between "splits" in screen?
[15:23] <squeak> broken_, hey random question for you on that its not showing up in wireless right?
[15:23] <C4away> Random answer[21]: Africa (from Phyre)
[15:24] <broken_> squeak: its not, correct.
[15:24] <bazhang> C4away, ??
[15:24] <sipior> broken_: does your laptop have a switch for turning the wireless receiver on and off?
[15:24] <genii> !rip | n0gear
[15:24] <fasta> n0gear: yes, I also know how to do that.
[15:24] <andruk> having trouble reinstalling postgres-8.3: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199292/
[15:24] <fasta> n0gear: only problem is that it is slow.
[15:24] <broken_> sipior: it does but its never worked in the past.
[15:25] <fasta> n0gear: it takes about a day with the amount of packages I have.
[15:25] <broken_> I suppose I should give it a try, and see.
[15:25] <squeak> broken_, okay this may sound weird but it fixes it everytime for me...don't reboot..shut off the computer right now and then start it back up....not reboot shut down completely and power off..then start back up...that fixed mine same problem atheros chipset..if I rebooted it wouldn't work but shutting down all the way then starting back up from a cold boot fixed it worked fine since
[15:26] <muha> How can i open /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:26] <squeak> muha, sudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf
[15:26] <Pici> !gksudo | muha squeak
[15:27] <squeak> Pici, ahhh okay I have never once used gksudo always used sudo
[15:27] <rohan> that factoid is outdated now, because gksudo no longer exists in current versions of ubuntu
[15:27] <broken_> squeak: sipior both your combined solutions worked! Thank you!!
[15:27] <rohan> true, in the past, it was an issue using X and sudo, but it no longer is, thanks to PolicyKit
[15:27] <Pici> rohan: Yes it does.
[15:27] <squeak> broken_, glad we could help :)
[15:28] <rohan> Pici: i am about sure it doesn't.
[15:29] <squeak> rohan, not sure if it helps but I am in intrepid and gksudo is there
[15:30] <squeak> rohan, but on that same note I have never used gksudo LOL always did sudo
[15:30] <bazhang> gksudo for all graphical apps
[15:31] <Ffunk74> gksudo is usually included in gksu package
[15:31] <squeak> Whats the latest version of PulseAudio I can installed in Ubuntu Intrepid? and I don't want too upgrade too Jaunty lol
[15:31] <rohan>  oh i am sorry, gksudo is there, Pici
[15:31] <bsl> is there a reason that when I ssh into my ubuntu server some characters are replaced as such: "Any line ending in a â\â"
[15:31] <o_a> [Kubuntu] When I try to activate Strigi indexing in 9.04 with 4.2 Beta 2, a message appears below the "Enable Strigi desktop indexing" checkbox, saying: "Strigi service failed to initialize, most likely due to an installation problem"
[15:32] <Romeo92Bratsk> Hello
[15:32] <o_a> Any idea of what the problem is?
[15:32] <n0gear> can Amarok be used to rip CDs to mp3?
[15:32] <sipior> bsl: what is the result of "echo $TERM" on the remote machine? also, what ssh client are you using?
[15:32] <squeak> n0gear, as far as I know..no..well not that I have ever found....there was a program if you want the name of it that I use too rip cds and encode them too mp3 and such
[15:33] <faldo> So basically a firewall is for dropping packets?
[15:33] <Romeo92Bratsk> Pycckue ecTb ?
[15:33] <Romeo92Bratsk> äæ
[15:33] <Pici> !ru | Romeo92Bratsk
[15:33] <sipior> faldo: dropping, rerouting, tagging, logging, mangling, &cet.
[15:33] <bsl> sipior: term = xterm, i've seen same results with putty and SSH Secure Shell
[15:33] <bazhang> Romeo92Bratsk, #ubuntu-ru
[15:34] <bsl> sipior: maybe i'm just using a bad font?
[15:34] <server_> hi everyone, can some one help me? i am using hardy heron and can't seem to connect to pppoe using network manager. i can connect now because of pppoeconf
[15:34] <sipior> bsl: possibly. the latter client is the windows version?
[15:34] <faldo> sipior: what's the policy name for dropping packets with ufw? Deny
[15:34] <n0gear> squeak: whats the name of the prog?
[15:34] <sipior> faldo: "DROP"
[15:35] <bsl> sipior: I'm running both from windows
[15:35] <sipior> faldo: ah, sorry, from iptables. i don't use ufw myself.
[15:35] <faldo> sipior : DROP of course +1
[15:35] <squeak> n0gear, here this ubuntu help page is what you need they list a few ones there...its down too preference...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CDRipping
[15:35] <rohan>  /msg ubottu lts
[15:35] <rohan> how frequently do LTS versions of ubuntu come out?
[15:36] <sipior> bsl: make sure you're using a basic monospaced font. easy to test if that's the problem, anyway.
[15:36] <erik__> good everyone
[15:36] <server_> good ____ erik____
[15:36] <ctmjr> !lts
[15:36] <erik__> i have a question do i have to reinstall
[15:37] <erik__> today i found 512 mb ddr
[15:37] <Pici> rohan: About every 2 years
[15:37] <bsl> sipior: i think i see the problem char set="ISO-8859-1:1998 (Latin-1, West Europe)"
[15:37] <bsl> sipior: i want UTF-8?
[15:37] <erik__> the system has 512]
[15:37] <sipior> bsl: wouldn't hurt
[15:37] <erik__> an i wanna add 256mb more
[15:37] <Pici> erik__: you want to know if you need to reinstall if you add more RAM>
[15:38] <erik__> will ubuntu boot or will go crazy
[15:38] <Pici> erik__: It will work fine.
[15:38] <bsl> sipior: UTF-8 did the trick
[15:38] <erik__> i know it not matched memory
[15:38] <Pici> erik__: As long as the memory works fine, Ubuntu should be fine.
[15:38] <erik__> but  768 is better than 512
[15:39] <erik__> actually im xubuntu
[15:39] <bsl> this is the line that was previously messing up "Any line ending in a “\” is continued on the next line in the customary UNIX fashion." apposed to "Any line ending in a â\â"
[15:39] <genii> erik__: As always, the more, the better
[15:39] <andruk> anybody here run postgresql?
[15:39] <eanda> does anyone know what schemas are istall into ldap by default when installing the default slapd
[15:39] <sipior> erik__: might run a bit more slowly if they're not matched. still, beats swapping :-)
[15:39] <erik__> i see skyos is thinking about using linux kernel
[15:40] <Pici> erik__: Okay? If you want to chat about linux you should join #ubuntu-offtopic. #ubuntu is for support issues
[15:41] <erik__> does ubuntu install java or do u have to go in an search for it
[15:41] <bsl> erik__: installs fake java
[15:41] <rohan> bsl: no it doesn't
[15:41] <Pici> !java | erik__
[15:41] <rohan> erik__: install the package "sun-java6-jre"
[15:41] <bsl> rohan: not sun java
[15:41] <rohan> bsl: yes, sun java if you want
[15:42] <x2ne1x> ?;
[15:42] <rohan> bsl: openJDK is in main, but if you install ubuntu-restricted-extras, it installs the sun java and not openjdk
[15:42] <erik__> i mean java run time
[15:42] <bsl> rohan: ah ok
[15:42] <rohan> erik__: install the package "sun-java6-jre" and "sun-java6-plugin", that's it
[15:42] <x2ne1x> 왜 영어들이;
[15:42] <eanda> let me clarify.  I installed slapd in ubuntu 9.04 server.  the installation creates a default directory tree and includes schemas in the directory.  does anyone know which ones these are like core and interpersonorg
[15:43] <Pici> !ko | x2ne1x
[15:43] <x2ne1x> 헉 잘못 들어 왔구나; ㅎ
[15:43] <x2ne1x> ^,^;
[15:43] <x2ne1x> !ko
[15:43] <x2ne1x> ??
[15:43] <x2ne1x> !ko ??
[15:43] <CybeRebel> hello :) how can i best download utube videos on ubuntu?
[15:43] <tntc> man, it's pretty awesome that I didn't have to install anything to see those korean charachters.
[15:43] <eurythmia> Pici, how did you recognize it ?
[15:43] <rohan> CybeRebel: using www.zamzar.com/url
[15:43] <eurythmia> tntc, agreed.
[15:43] <squeak> CybeRebel, or keepvid.com
[15:44] <Pici> x2ne1x: /join #ubuntu-ko
[15:44] <CybeRebel> rohan thank you :)
[15:44] <eurythmia> CybeRebel, there are firefox extentions to handle it ... quite slick.
[15:44] <x2ne1x> Pici // thank^^
[15:44] <rohan> CybeRebel: np :) there are many other methods though..
[15:44] <Pici> eurythmia: geoip.pl script for irssi tells me the location of the hostname.
[15:44] <rohan> but i find zamzar the most convenient
[15:44] <eurythmia> Pici, ah. cool.
[15:44] <CybeRebel> ubuntu comunity ROCKS :)
[15:44] <x2ne1x> sorry, I am studying english.
[15:44] <tntc> hey, if my netbook requires third party drivers that are open source, should I report a bug about that?  I have a latitude 2100 that neads realteks version of the alsa drivers to work correctly (mic and all that)
[15:44] <rohan> even otherwise, characters which are "chinese looking" with lots of circles in them are definitely korean
[15:44] <sipior> eanda: have a look in /etc/ldap/schema.
[15:44] <tntc> but the drivers are indeed open source.
[15:45] <rohan> japanese and chinese characters don't have circles
[15:45] <eurythmia> tntc, I think that would be an alsa bug.
[15:45] <bsl> tntc: you can do whatever you want
[15:45] <CybeRebel> rohan what is best for beginners?
[15:45] <eurythmia> tntc, (request for improvement bug, that is)
[15:45] <rohan> CybeRebel: the zamzar method is most convenient, and you get the video in the format you want
[15:46] <tntc> bsl: I could punch strangers in the face on the street.  Doesn't mean I should :)
[15:46] <eurythmia> tntc, have you tried rebuilding the alsa modules first? I have an intel hda card, (which is a realtec chipset), and rebuilding the alsa modules using module-assistant fixed my issues.
[15:46] <CybeRebel> rohan WOOHOO :) thank you very much :)
[15:47] <x2ne1x> best for beginners?..
[15:47] <tntc> eurythmia: rebuilding them? got a doc on how to do that?  I built the modules by hand using the actual alsa sources (first) and then realtek's sources (second)
[15:48] <eurythmia> tntc, hold on, I should be able to find a doc, it's pretty easy though :)
[15:48] <ctmjr> tntc: to answer your question no it is not a bug
[15:48] <tntc> eurythmia: heh. I'm not too worried.  I can make complicated things work too.
[15:49] <tntc> ctmjr: ok. feature request or something then?
[15:49] <eurythmia> tntc, use "Method A" from here : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Gutsy_Intel_HD_Audio_Controller
[15:49] <eurythmia> tntc, so, you're like me then ... like the easy way, but the complicated stuff works too :)
[15:50] <tntc> eurythmia: hehe. I actually already did method B.  If method B didn't work, doesn't that mean Method A won't as well?
[15:50] <eurythmia> tntc, you should be able to get away with running "sudo /etc/init.d/alsa-utils restart" instead of "shutdown -r now"
[15:50] <eurythmia> tntc, not necessarily.
[15:51] <wrsg> hello, can someone direct me to instructions on how to set up a vnc server on Ubuntu 8.04
[15:51] <tntc> eurythmia: I'd just been doing sudo alsa force-reload.
[15:51] <wrsg> is there such a thing built in?
[15:51] <wrsg> to ubuntu hardy?
[15:51] <wrsg> i.e. vnc?
[15:52] <eurythmia> tntc, might have the same effect, I'm not 100% sure ... I think you'll have to unload/reload the alsa modules for everything to take effect (so, restarting is prolly easier)
[15:52] <eurythmia> wrsg, apt-cache search vnc
[15:52] <wrsg> eurythmia: er, what does that command do?
[15:52] <eurythmia> !vnc | wrsg
[15:52] <asinha> hi I am new to IRC infact linux too
[15:53] <eurythmia> asinha, welcome.
[15:53] <tntc> ok, thanks eurythmia! I'll let you know if it works
[15:53] <eurythmia> wrsg, it searches the apt repositories for a vnc client
[15:53] <eurythmia> tntc, cool. I'll be around :)
[15:53] <asinha> i need help to install monitor driver on my dell mini 1010
[15:53] <wrsg> i know in a general sense what vnc is
[15:53] <asinha> thank you eurythmia
[15:53] <eurythmia> asinha, np :)
[15:53] <nthompson92> Hello, can someone help disable the screen saver with a terminal command, because it freezes up my computer
[15:53] <wrsg> but i need to set up a vnc server on a family members machine so i can go in and customise it for them
[15:53] <asinha> india
[15:54] <eurythmia> wrsg, ubottu gave you a page for setting up a vnc server.
[15:54] <wrsg> ok
[15:54] <wrsg> thank you
[15:54] <squeak> How do you update PulseAudio in Intrepid? like I know there are versions like 0.9.12 and that etc? but I don't want too upgrade distros
[15:54] <solomon> anyone got any idea how to troubleshoot why a script i placed into /etc/dhcp3/dhclient-exit-hooks.d/ isn't doing what I intended?  or got any other suggestions for making sure something executes whenever a network link comes up?
[15:54] <faldo> please no punch below the belt tntc
[15:54] <co_keren> hhhyyyyyyyyyyy
[15:55] <Xet> Hello  could you guys help me please: http://pastebin.com/m3c3f4fab
[15:55] <buch> Anybody have a great experience with dual booting with two HD's (Win XP and ubuntu)
[15:56] <eurythmia> !ask | buch
[15:56] <staar2> hi
[15:56] <ziroday> buch: yep!
[15:56] <staar2> is there any performance tweaks for ubuntu ?
[15:57] <squeak> staar2, look up ubuntu-tweak
[15:57] <mahmoud> hi
[15:57] <buch> ziroday: Okay here are my problem
[15:58] <ziroday> staar2: you can disable unneeded services, or use a lighter DE. Which section of ubuntu are you looking to improve? It might be a better use of your time to upgrade (certain) parts of your computer.
[15:58] <eurythmia> Xet, try rebooting, and when you get to the grub menu, hit 'e' to edit the boot command, remove 'quiet' and 'splash' from the command, then hit 'b' to boot ... when the boot process freezez, take a picture of your screen, and then upload it to an imagebin so I can see it.
[15:59] <staar2> ziroday, yeah the computer upgrade would be better but it's the laptop so i haven't room
[15:59] <genii> staar2: An easy thing to speed bootup is to put for a boot option one time only: profile    ... it will streamline the boot for next time
[15:59] <buch> ziroday: I cant get grub to boot windows, I tried to change cables and jumpers and it helped abit, now it says starting up with (system is starting up ...) and then idle
[15:59] <nthompson92> Does anyone know how to disable the screen saver with a terminal command.
[15:59] <ziroday> buch: sure, please pastebin the output of sudo fdisk -l and the file /boot/grub/menu.lst
[16:00] <buch> ziroday sure
[16:00] <staar2> no i didnt say the startup is slow, but like in windows you got chance to turn off the services which you dont need
[16:00] <staar2> also is the KDE faster then GNOME ?
[16:01] <hwilde> xfce is faster
[16:01] <staar2> like which would be better for slower computers
[16:01] <hwilde> or icewm
[16:01] <sipior> nthompson92: gnome-screensaver-command --exit. or you can simply deactivate it with the "--inhibit" switch
[16:01] <staar2> yeah its option, but i dont know does the all apps work there ?
[16:01] <devin__> has anyone ever had a problem in grub where they were dual booting with windows and as you clicked on ur windows entry in grub it would load linux instead??
[16:02] <nthompson92> thank you sipior, ill try that
[16:02] <squeak> devin__, sounds like your grub conf is not working right lol....try in terminal sudo update-grub
[16:02] <Rocknrolla> who cares?!"?!?!?
[16:02] <sipior> Rocknrolla: ?!
[16:02] <sharetel> hi, I have installed the latest Ubuntu (192.168.0.15)on a machine. I would like to take a backup of my data from a Samba server on 192.168.0.10. Can someone please tell how can this be done?
[16:02] <buch> ziroday: http://pastebin.com/m11f807af
[16:03] <devin__> bash: update-grub: command not found
[16:03] <nthompson92> hey sipior im new to ubuntu, do i just enter all that into a terminal
[16:03] <ziroday> buch: hmm so I presume /dev/sdb1 is the location of your windows partition?
[16:03] <sipior> nthompson92: yep.
[16:03] <nthompson92> thanks
[16:04] <Rocknrolla> who cares about programs when there is sex, drugs and alchocol
[16:04] <ziroday> !offtopic | Rocknrolla
[16:04] <squeak> devin__, what distro of linux? and what version?
[16:04] <sipior> Rocknrolla: do us a favour and explore puberty somewhere else, please.
[16:04] <devin__> squeak sabayon 4.2
[16:05] <Cedna> hmm...
[16:05] <devin__> gnome
[16:05] <squeak> devin__, that might be why this is for Ubuntu lol
[16:05] <buch> ziroday: sdb1 yup
[16:05] <devin__> i know but no one talks in they're channel
[16:05] <bastidrazor> devin__, what does lsb_release -a tell you?
[16:05] <squeak> devin__, can't help you with sabayon never used it so not sure where too go in there  lol
[16:05] <ziroday> buch: hmm then your windows entry in menu.lst looks correct but I have an idea
[16:05] <Pici> devin__: And yet this channel is still for Ubuntu support...
[16:05] <bastidrazor> oh.
[16:06] <Rocknrolla> more firee!!
[16:06] <slayton> devin__, try ##linux
[16:06] <Pici> Rocknrolla: stop
[16:07] <sign> k
[16:07] <sledgeas> thank you for the (9:57:15 +GMT) answer erUSUL, it appeared that my problem was kuki-specific
[16:07] <ziroday> buch: can you modify the windows entry in menu.lst to look like http://pastebin.com/m7f125e85 please
[16:07] <squeak> Is there any real speed or advantage of using KDE4 over gnome?
[16:08] <greenkernel> hello ....
[16:08] <bastidrazor> squeak, personal preference mainly
[16:08] <greenkernel> I have a problem with GRUB ..
[16:08] <buch> ziroday: i tried it but seems i screw it up first time when i look over your description, so i try again
[16:08] <nthompson92> hey sipior, how do u execute the inhibit command
[16:08] <squeak> bastid_raZor, okay well I personally like gnome better kde reminds me too much of vista loool
[16:09] <greenkernel> Whenever I boot from my hard disk, it came up with grub>   command ..
[16:09] <kulight> squeak: from my experiance KDE is slower
[16:09] <sipior> nthompson92: gnome-screensaver-command --inhibit
[16:09] <ziroday> squeak: try both out and see which one you prefer
[16:09] <greenkernel> I don't know how to boot to Ubuntu ...
[16:09] <bastidrazor> squeak, exactly.
[16:09] <sledgeas> write boot (enter), greenkernel :)
[16:09] <erUSUL> sledgeas: no problem
[16:09] <regeya>  I would point out that kde is configurable, but you don't have to know much about it to know that
[16:10] <greenkernel> Then, it came up with an error .. stating that the kernel must be load first ..
[16:10] <nthompson92> thanks again sipior.
[16:10] <regeya> having said that, right now I'm using gnome...kde4 has too much stuff to iron out before I'll really dig it
[16:11] <squeak> I like gnome and all that everything works great...I just have a problem with pulseaudio..I like it just at times it loops my sound and I have too restart too get it too fix itself
[16:11] <zgmf-x20a> any unr users in here?  how can i tell maximize to not do what its supposed to??  lol
[16:11] <henkboom> Hi, I installed without a swap partition, is there a way to configure hibernate to use a file instead of a swap partition?
[16:11] <greenkernel> the boot partition is in my first partition of the first hard drive ..
[16:11] <greenkernel> so .. I enter this command .. root (hd0,0) ..
[16:12] <greenkernel> but, nothing happens ..
[16:12] <sledgeas> oh ok, greenkernel, it goes beyond me knowledge cause i have never RFTMed grub :) probably you should load kernel with a `kernel' command and then the exact kernel name after it.. the most common problem for me was to remember the exact kernel command :)
[16:12] <ghenbiu> halo
[16:12] <muha> ati/amd fglrx grafic driver does this driver make hdmi audio and video output if not how can i get driver that does
[16:12] <sipior> greenkernel: do you have separate boot and root partitions?
[16:13] <greenkernel> yes .. I have made them separate ..
[16:13] <ziroday> henkboom: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq#Example of making a swap file
[16:13] <muha> i am looking for ati opensource drivers
[16:13] <bastidrazor> !ati > muha
[16:13] <squeak> !ati > squeak
[16:14] <henkboom> thanks ziroday
[16:14] <buch> ziroday: Perfect. Problem solved :)
[16:14] <ziroday> henkboom: have fun
[16:14] <ziroday> buch: awesome! Have fun
[16:14] <DVA5912> What can i do to lockdown the gnome desktop on use accounts?
[16:14] <ziroday> DVA5912: lockdown how?
[16:14] <sipior> greenkernel: make sure that you're specifying the correct *root* partition.
[16:15] <DVA5912> ziroday, last time i was on her someone told me of two programs that could lock it down
[16:15] <greenkernel> This is my menu.list file of my /boot partition .. http://pastebin.ca/1466397
[16:15] <Pici> DVA5912: pessulus and sabayon are two packages to aid in lockdown.
[16:15] <aygeX> einer deutsch hier?
[16:15] <rakudave> general question: how come that when I use "apt-get upgrade", some packets are held back, but when using the update-manager, all packets are installed? How do I get all packages with "apt-get" as well?
[16:15] <Pici> !de | aygeX
[16:15] <greenkernel> Please take a look ...
[16:15] <DVA5912> pici, your the best
[16:15] <sipior> greenkernel: to ask another way: what are the device names of your boot and root partitions?
[16:15] <ahox> Hi, my ubuntu jaunty is extremly slow at bootup, it waits 30s for my harddisk, any ideas?
[16:15] <john_> putting a user on the user group will give it a certain lockdown
[16:16] <ctmjr> muha: radeonhd has hdmi audio radeon does not fglrx from ati on intrepid does but not on jaunty,  or at least not for me.
[16:16] <john_> like users cant have access to the add/remove programs
[16:16] <john_> and it is good to seperate the home directory
[16:16] <ahox> john_: don't make them system users
[16:17] <greenkernel> /boot ... > /dev/sda1 ... /  > /dev/sda6
[16:17] <n0gear> greenkernel: are you trying to boot windows? my ubuntu entry doesnt include rootnoverify (hd0,0)
[16:17] <john_> that is if you want this implemented on production'
[16:17] <fiXXXerMet> How can I make a msdos boot disk in linux?  I have created a fat32 partition, made it bootable .
[16:17] <sledgeas> greenkernel: did you try `kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic' in the boot prompt?
[16:17] <greenkernel> No, I've tried to boot OpenBSD ..
[16:18] <sipior> greenkernel: so you need to specify root (hd0,5), yes?
[16:18] <greenkernel> (hd0,5) is my / partition .. right?
[16:18] <john_> do a bios lockdown too leh
[16:18] <sipior> greenkernel: (hd0,5) == /dev/sda6
[16:19] <greenkernel> That is my /(root) partition ..
[16:19] <john_> and you can specify disk quotas too
[16:19] <greenkernel> but, kernel is not in /(root) partition .. right?
[16:19] <greenkernel> I think it must be in /boot partition .. right/
[16:20] <nux> hi all.. i have wireless network. now my wifi card on my desktop got fried :( so i only have net on my lappy. i need to route my desktop pc trough my lappy using cable. so i can use it to surf instead. can someone help me ?
[16:20] <n0gear> greenkernel: yes
[16:20] <ctmjr> !pm|muha
[16:20] <john_> there some user specific settings that you can look at on /etc/pam.d/login-limits
[16:20] <Nehyx> !paste > Nehyx
[16:20] <greenkernel> so the command > root (hd0,0) should be okay .. right?
[16:20] <ziroday> !inetsharing > nux
[16:20] <john_> and /etc/security/limits.conf
[16:21] <sledgeas> greenkernel: it should be depending on the directory structure
[16:21] <sledgeas> try both then
[16:21] <sledgeas> enter root (hd0,0) - then you are in your boot partition
[16:21] <nux> thanks
[16:22] <greenkernel> then how could I load kernel ?
[16:22] <john_> !pam
[16:23] <greenkernel> I tired to boot OpenBSD with Ubuntu .. but, I couldn't ..
[16:23] <sledgeas> then load the kernel (the best thing would be to write in the string with the kernel root param, just copy paste (by hands ;)) almost whole line from menu.list: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=d5f859d3-a48b-4b58-aac3-0a40a47dadd4  )
[16:23] <sledgeas> and then enter
[16:23] <Raydiation> will automatic font installation be supported too in 10.04?
[16:23] <greenkernel> someone told me to use gag software to make multiple boot ..
[16:23] <greenkernel> so I installed gag
[16:23] <greenkernel> but .. gag did not recognize even a linux os ... OpenBSD too ..
[16:23] <sledgeas> omy
[16:24] <greenkernel> so I unistalled gag
[16:24] <sledgeas> yea, gag is crap, i don't even know what it is
[16:24] <greenkernel> Then .. my computer failed to load grub ..
[16:24] <TuGa> hello to add a dir to the PATH i just add it to the /etc/bash.bashrc?
[16:24] <ziroday> Raydiation: if its supported now, then yes it should
[16:24] <SoulBlade> you guys know of any ubuntu versions that might have used kernel 2.6.16?  i have to debug something for someone on that kernel
[16:24] <sledgeas> ubuntu installation is able to recognise most of the OSs on the pc
[16:24] <imlad> How would I set an out of the office auto response on my Canonical e-mail?
[16:24] <greenkernel> it said "sector boot not found .. please reboot the system" ..
[16:24] <ziroday> TuGa: http://www.troubleshooters.com/linux/prepostpath.htm
[16:24] <greenkernel> so I tried to install grub again ..
[16:25] <sledgeas> greenkernel: after loading kernel?
[16:25] <henkboom> what permissions should I give my swap file, or does it matter?
[16:25] <FloridaGuy> has anyone tried fedora 11 yet..and had sound problems
[16:25] <sledgeas> greenkernel: how about loading LiveCD and choosing the rescue option ?
[16:25] <sledgeas> SoulBlade: Ubuntu Dapper
[16:25] <greenkernel> Now I'm running on LiveCD ..
[16:25] <SoulBlade> thanks
[16:26] <TuGa> ok i want to add a dir for CUDA the nvidia cuda. if i need to run it i need to add it to my user or all users?
[16:26] <sledgeas> greenkernel: then just run grub-install /dev/sda on the command prompt
[16:26] <greenkernel> that's why I can come here .. otherwise my system could not boot up from hard disk ..
[16:26] <greenkernel> :'(
[16:26] <ziroday> henkboom: it doesn't matter I would imagine, if in doubt something fairly lenient
[16:26] <henkboom> ok, thanks
[16:26] <greenkernel> I have already tried it .. gurb-install /dev/sda
[16:27] <greenkernel> the grub has already installed again ..
[16:27] <JackB21> you can use a program to guess your partitio table.
[16:27] <greenkernel> when I run grub> find /boot/grub/stage1
[16:27] <greenkernel> it returned  (hd0)
[16:28] <greenkernel> sorry .. (hd0,0) which is my /boot partition ..
[16:28] <FloridaGuy> greenkernel, this always helps to.....    http://www.ultimatebootcd.com/
[16:29] <asinha> hi can help me with my DellMini1010 monitor driver?
[16:29] <JackB21> google for TestDisk, a program designed to recover lost partitions or make on-booting disks bootable again.
[16:29] <sledgeas> SoulBlade: dapper has 2.6.15 and then 2.6.17 follows immediately with edgy, i reckon 2.6.16 meant an unstable kernel by that time (http://distrowatch.com/table.php?distribution=ubuntu linux package)
[16:29] <Um_cara_qualquer> how do i install compizconfig simple manager?
[16:29] <davidjheinrich>  how do I find out what Ubuntu calls my various keyboard keys?
[16:29] <petllama> is there a way to output a logfile with ftpsync
[16:29] <hosamelfeky> iam join it .it`sa right
[16:30] <hosamelfeky> ?
[16:30] <bastidrazor> Um_cara_qualquer, apt-get install simple-ccsm
[16:30] <sledgeas> greenkernel: kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic root=UUID=d5f859d3-a48b-4b58-aac3-0a40a47dadd4
[16:30] <greenkernel> That's a boot CD .. right? I think I don't need boot CD .. I have Ubuntu LiveCD  .. I can boot up with it ...
[16:30] <asinha> I need monitor driver for my dell mini 1010 ? can anyone help
[16:30] <JackB21> greenkernel, google for TestDisk, a program designed to recover lost partitions or make on-booting disks bootable again.
[16:31] <asinha> the display resolution is 800 X 576
[16:31] <JackB21> or gpart
[16:31] <asinha> cannot change..
[16:31] <n0gear> JackB21: ultimatebootcd seemed to include testdisk as well
[16:32] <Um_cara_qualquer> thanks
[16:32] <FloridaGuy> greenkernel, its more then aboot cd...it has grub....it has harddrive tools...bios tools...and more..and all free
[16:32] <krishna> rotate cube effect is not working.. i have desktop cube enabled..  i have 4 workspaces..... but now, the rotate cube effect is not working... it worked 5 mins ago
[16:33] <krishna>  hello ?
[16:33] <greenkernel> Thanks JackB21 and FloridaGuy .. I'll try TestDisk ..and Ultimate BootCD
[16:33] <ctmjr> !compiz|krishna
[16:33]  * a_y == away
[16:34] <staar2> all the gnome and KDE apps work in XFC ?
[16:34] <krishna> ctmjr, i asked THERE.. and no one replies
[16:34] <muha> radeonhd
[16:34] <FloridaGuy> greenkernel, i had a pc..that would not load windows...only linux...that cd fixed that problem
[16:34] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  how do i merge the top and bottom bars into one, on the bottom.  desktop space is sorta at a premium
[16:34] <muha> how can i install radeonhd
[16:35] <co_cakep> hyyyyyyyyyyy
[16:35] <cxo> Does catalyst 9.6 work with ubuntu 9.04?
[16:36] <wojtek_ozi> guys, green thing near nickname mean that those person is admin?
[16:36] <p3tre> hi
[16:36] <lfaraone> Hi, how do I connect to a computer's netconsole?
[16:36] <lstarnes> wojtek_ozi: op
[16:36] <lfaraone> wojtek_ozi: what client are you using?
[16:36] <JackB21> ssh
[16:36] <p3tre> i`m a new user of linux and i have a problem
[16:36] <lfaraone> p3tre: what is it?
[16:36] <wojtek_ozi> xchat
[16:36] <zgmf-x20a> hey all.  how do i merge the top and bottom bars into one, on the bottom.  desktop space is sorta at a premium
[16:37] <p3tre> i can`t watch videos on youtube full scren
[16:37] <p3tre> it`s runing slow
[16:37] <ctmjr> muha: go here and follow the guide you need to remove the fglrx driver first if you have it http://www.x.org/wiki/radeonhd
[16:37] <lfaraone> zgmf-x20a: well, you can move each element by right clicking it and saying "move"
[16:37] <hemanth> which variable holds the value of the newline-delimited paths for selected files in KDE ?
[16:37] <erUSUL> zgmf-x20a: just remove the pannel you do not need and add the applets it holds (the ones you neeed) to the other one
[16:37] <lfaraone> p3tre: that's because Adobe's linux implmentation is crappy. There isn't much of a solution, other than to use something besides youtube.
[16:38] <lfaraone> zgmf-x20a: there's also a "start-esque" ubuntu button youc an add to the bottom.
[16:38] <findfunaax> join
[16:38] <lfaraone> p3tre: there's a totem plugin for youtube, try that.
[16:38] <Titan8990> lfaraone, use netcat to connect to netconsole
[16:38] <p3tre> so then  is no solution
[16:38] <stuckey> I just installed ubuntu but it isn't showing up in the menu (GRUB) when I start the machine. How can boot?
[16:38] <p3tre> i use firefox web browser
[16:38] <lfaraone> Titan8990: ok. now, is netconsole a broadcast thing or a established connection?
[16:38] <p3tre> how i instal the plugin
[16:39] <rubydiamond2> Hi guys
[16:39] <rubydiamond2> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[16:39] <AlienDK> NO U!
[16:39] <Titan8990> lfaraone, its a daemon that listens, you have to establish a connection on the port its running on
[16:39] <rubydiamond2> getting this error on sudo apt-get update
[16:39] <lfaraone> Titan8990: I see.
[16:39] <Titan8990> lfaraone, http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-netconsole-log-management-tutorial.html
[16:39] <lfaraone> p3tre: sudo apt-get install totem-plugins totem-plugins-extra
[16:39]  * lfaraone will brb.
[16:39] <lfaraone> Titan8990: thanks
[16:39] <rubydiamond2> Failed to fetch http://security.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/dists/gutsy-security/main/binary-amd64/Packages.gz  404 Not Found
[16:39] <rubydiamond2> this one
[16:39] <zgmf-x20a> lfaraone: yes but i can right click applications, places, etc and move to the bottom.  secondly, what does start esque do?
[16:40] <HowardWCampbell> I've installed the 2.6.30 kernel on 9.04, following this guide http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582&repost
[16:40] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: gutsy isn't supported anymore
[16:40] <zgmf-x20a> erUSUL: and how do i add these applets?
[16:40] <HowardWCampbell> and now the update manager wants to downgrade back to 2.6.28 - can I ignore this?
[16:40] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: hey
[16:40] <Titan8990> rubydiamond2, don't think gutsy is still supported
[16:40] <rubydiamond2> I am worried
[16:40] <p3tre> thx i will try that
[16:40] <Titan8990> !gutsy | rubydiamond2
[16:41] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: what is the solution then
[16:41] <zgmf-x20a> lfaraone: erUSUL ideally the end result, is the top bar is exactly the same, except it opens items in the gap space, as the bottom does.  and i can move the bottoms from the bottom bar to the top.  than move that whole bar to the bottom.  lol.  well i guess it can stay top
[16:41] <p3tre> and i have another problem whit pidgin messenger
[16:41] <p3tre> i can`t login
[16:41] <rubydiamond2> this is on my slicehost slice .. and I have some web apps running there
[16:42] <p3tre> and kopete same problem
[16:42] <RV> hi there
[16:42] <p3tre> hi
[16:42] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: ??
[16:42] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: upgrade, or use http://old-releases.ubuntu.com for repos
[16:42] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: what is the command to upgrade
[16:43] <cporter> Anyone know how to prevent thunderbird from doing the window resizing?
[16:43] <RV> please i am call RV and i am lost here can some one tall to me please
[16:43] <p3tre> l faraone
[16:44] <cporter> It acts crazy if I don't drag from the furthest outside of the window.
[16:44] <p3tre> i install that u give me
[16:44] <hatter243> !gutsy | rubydiamond2
[16:44] <p3tre> but now when i`m going on full scren crash
[16:44] <ctmjr> RV: what is the problem?
[16:44] <rubydiamond2> hax404: how do I upgrade to newer version
[16:44] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: if all the packages you have installed are up-to-date with that repo, use sudo do-release-upgrade
[16:44] <stuckey> Hello
[16:44] <hosamelfeky> hello
[16:44] <stuckey> How do I create the proper lines in menu.lst to boot Ubuntu?
[16:45] <stuckey> Like the root, initrd lines...
[16:45] <stuckey> and the kernel one... I don't know what to put for that.
[16:45] <hatter243> rubydiamond2, see my earlier message
[16:45] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: will it affect my existing setup
[16:45] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: it might
[16:45] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: I have some apps running on my current release
[16:46] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: it should upgrade to 8.04, and there are some differences between 7.10 and 8.04
[16:46] <HowardWCampbell> I'm trying to made a live CD backup of my setup, but since I'm running the 2.6.30 kernel neither remastersys or the manual live CD method I tried worked - - ??
[16:46] <stuckey> Can anyone help?
[16:46] <Titan8990> stuckey, kerenl /boot/NAMEOFKERNELIMAGE root=/dev/sdx  <----can also be UUID
[16:46] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: should I take backup
[16:46] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: backing up is always a good idea
[16:46] <Titan8990> stuckey, initrd /boot/NAMEOFINITRDIMAGE
[16:46] <john_> for radeonhd try... http://k3mist.com/linux/ubuntu-jaunty-ati-restricted-proprietary-fglrx-driver-direct-rendering-mobility-radeon-hd-series/
[16:46] <stuckey> Titan8990: it's 9.04 AMD64
[16:47] <Titan8990> stuckey, that makes no difference
[16:47] <stuckey> Titan8990: Well I don't know what the name of my kernel image is.
[16:47] <Titan8990> stuckey, look at /boot
[16:47] <stuckey> Titan8990: ah okay
[16:47] <galesolomon> hello every one
[16:47] <stuckey> Titan8990: and that goes to root?
[16:47] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: sudo: do-release-upgrade: command not found
[16:48] <Titan8990> stuckey, the drive that will be mounted at /
[16:48] <stuckey> Titan8990: Wait, no that goes to kernel... What goes to root?
[16:48] <galesolomon> :)
[16:48] <Pici> stuckey: Is there a reason you're manually modifying the file instead of using update-grub?
[16:48] <Titan8990> stuckey, you can use /dev/sdxx syntax or use blkid to get the UUID
[16:48] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: you might need to install update-manager-core first
[16:48] <Titan8990> stuckey, root=drivemountedto/
[16:48] <john_> get your kernel name by uname --all
[16:48] <stuckey> Pici: Nope, I just didn't set it when I installed it so I'm looking for a way to update grub...
[16:48] <chefkoch> hello. is there somebody out there syncing his evolution with google contacts?
[16:49] <joejc> can i customize the notifications?
[16:49] <Pici> stuckey: Have you seen https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto ?
[16:50] <imo> hello
[16:50] <stuckey> Pici: no, I don't have X right now either, so it might not do me so much good.
[16:50] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: Err http://archive.ubuntu.com gutsy-updates/main update-manager-core 1:0.81.3   404 Not Found [IP: 91.189.88.40 80]
[16:50] <zer0o> i cant access, read or write on a cd anymore, my burner won't work anymore... this is a pastebin with all ive done, could someone plz give it a look and tell what i have to do? im going nutshttp://paste.ubuntu.com/199355/  THANK YOU :D
[16:51] <stuckey> Titan8990: How do I tell what within /boot is the right one? I have lots of stuff in there.
[16:51] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: you might need to switch your repos over to http://old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:51] <dsdeiz> hi! i've installed fluxbox.. so when i select session in gdm i choose fluxbox.. where am i able to find the configurations in gdm that displays this fluxbox? :-?
[16:51] <Titan8990> stuckey, typically, the newest version
[16:51] <MoLoot> anyone recommend an active server/channel for webhosting chat?
[16:51] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: how can we do that
[16:52] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: edit /etc/apt/sources.list
[16:52] <chefkoch> ho to use eve online with playonlinux?
[16:52] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: what lines to add there
[16:52] <om26er> plz tell me if i install ubuntu on usb which filesystem is faster
[16:52] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: replace the instances of archive.ubuntu.com with old-releases.ubuntu.com
[16:53] <dajhorn> zer0o: What are the device permissions?  ls -l /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw /dev/sr*
[16:53] <Dermicha> hay
[16:53] <dajhorn> zer0o: And what is your group membership?  groups
[16:53] <om26er> which filesystem is faster if i install ubuntu on flash drive
[16:53] <dajhorn> !pm > zer0o
[16:53] <stuckey> Titan8990: and for root I can just put (hd0,0)?
[16:54] <dsdeiz> anyone? :D
[16:54] <om26er> !filesystem
[16:54] <Dermicha> i got some problems with tor, i did instal it like some howto, but when i use the tor button in Firefox and try to open a website it says:
[16:54] <Dermicha> Privoxy was unable to socks4a-forward your request              http://www.google.de/              through 127.0.0.1:             SOCKS4 negotiation write failed.
[16:54] <FloodBot1> Dermicha: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[16:54] <zer0o> dajhorn: my groups membership?
[16:54] <om26er> wil i get any answer
[16:55] <dajhorn> zer0o: Run `groups` at a prompt and see what it prints.  The /dev/cdrw device will have a group, and you must be part of that group.
[16:55] <silv3r_m00n> how can I check how much graphics memory I have ?
[16:55] <Titan8990> stuckey, is that the partition that /boot will be on?
[16:55] <Dermicha> how can i fix this?
[16:55] <stuckey> Titan8990: No, I don't know, how do I findout which partition /boot is on?
[16:55] <dajhorn> zer0o: Some people here yesterday did an upgrade that broke cdrom group membership.
[16:55] <zer0o> dajhorn: adm dialout cdrom floppy audio dip video plugdev fuse lpadmin admin, i don't do upgrades since 1 year right cuz of that reason
[16:56] <om26er> which filesystem is faster
[16:56] <Titan8990> stuckey, .... its going to be the same as / unless you specifically made a /boot partition
[16:56] <om26er> fastest
[16:56] <hosamelfeky> baa8b450 c548b155
[16:56] <stuckey> Titan8990: I made a /boot partition
[16:56] <dsdeiz> hi! i've installed fluxbox.. so when i select session in gdm i choose fluxbox.. where am i able to find the configurations in gdm that displays this fluxbox? :-?
[16:56] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: done it worked
[16:56] <Titan8990> !best | om26er
[16:56] <joejc> can i customize the notifications?
[16:56] <Titan8990> stuckey, cat /etc/mtab
[16:56] <dajhorn> zer0o: Now does your dev node look like this?  brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-06-19 08:56 /dev/sr0
[16:56] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: what are the disadvantages of using 7.10
[16:56] <metalfan_> hi
[16:57] <hosamelfeky> hi
[16:57] <Titan8990> stuckey, you also need to ensure that there is a symlink in /boot that points "." (itself)
[16:57] <om26er> titan8990 inever asked best ivasked fastest
[16:57] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: is there any easy way to upgrade to latest release without breaking my server setup
[16:57] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: 7.10 is no longer supported and won't get any further security updates
[16:57] <Titan8990> stuckey, whenever /boot is on its own partition
[16:57] <Titan8990> om26er, ext4 > xfs > reiserfs > ext3
[16:57] <stuckey>  it's /dev/sda1 (but I've another OS and it has it listed as (hd0,0). Why doesn't it have /dev/sda1 in grub as well?
[16:57] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: if you upgrade to 8.04, the server edition will be supported until 5 years after its release
[16:57] <ctmjr> !fluxbox|dsdeiz:
[16:57] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: okay .. how can I upgrade to latest release without much break in my apps
[16:57] <Titan8990> om26er, but it all depends on the situation and the size of files being accessed
[16:57] <rubydiamond2> and software installed
[16:58] <zer0o> dajhorn: that gave me a list of my links but there's no mention of any cdrom
[16:58] <metalfan_> do i miss something if install a 32bit ubuntu server on a 64bit machine?   the machine only got 2gb ram
[16:58] <stuckey> Titan8990: it's /dev/sda1 (but I've another OS and it has it listed as (hd0,0). Why doesn't it have /dev/sda1 in grub as well?
[16:58] <metalfan_> stuckey, grub does not work with /dev/sdx devices
[16:59] <dajhorn> zer0o: Many burning programs look for a symlink.  Run `ls -la /dev/cdrom /dev/cdrw`.  What do these links point to?
[16:59] <om26er> titan8990 which is the fastest for small files
[16:59] <metalfan_> stuckey, you can use (hdx,y) or UUIDS
[16:59] <om26er> very small files
[16:59] <Titan8990> om26er, reiserfs
[16:59] <rubydiamond2> lstarnes: ??
[16:59] <DVA5912> What can replace Visual C++ for windows on Ubuntu
[16:59] <stuckey> metalfan_: so if one os has root listed as (hd0,0) I can use it for ubuntu too?
[16:59] <DVA5912> i dont care about learning a new language so dont give me any of that
[16:59] <Titan8990> stuckey, hd0,0 is /dev/sda1
[16:59] <ziroday> DVA5912: you mean an IDE?
[16:59] <stuckey> metalfan_: what's this syntax, UUIDS and the other? I've never seen this before.
[16:59] <metalfan_> stuckey, UUIDS is never
[16:59] <Titan8990> stuckey, same thing, different way of expressing it
[16:59] <DVA5912> ziroday: yeah an ide that like visual
[16:59] <zer0o> dajhorn:
[16:59] <zer0o> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-06-19 08:57 /dev/cdrom -> scd0
[16:59] <zer0o> lrwxrwxrwx 1 root root 4 2009-06-19 08:57 /dev/cdrw -> scd0
[17:00] <lstarnes> rubydiamond2: do you want the latest release, or the LTS release?
[17:00] <metalfan_> stuckey, what do you mean by "...one os has root.....can i use it for ubuntu too?"
[17:00] <oenone1> help please
[17:00] <ziroday> DVA5912: you can take a look at Geany, Eclipse and Netbeans
[17:00] <oenone1> i cant boot in my jaunty
[17:00] <Titan8990> DVA5912, eclipse
[17:00] <DVA5912> ziroday: it needs to be gui though
[17:00] <dsdeiz> ubuntu doesn't read ~/.Xsession right?
[17:00] <dajhorn> zer0o: Okay, now what are the permissions on /dev/scd0?
[17:00] <stuckey> okay I'll test it
[17:00] <DVA5912> Titan8990: have you seen Visual C++
[17:00] <zer0o> dajhorn: how do i see that?
[17:00] <Titan8990> DVA5912, yes, I know what an IDE is
[17:00] <dajhorn> zer0o:  ls -la /dev/scd0
[17:00] <metalfan_> oenone1, be more specific, what does not work?
[17:01] <DVA5912> Titan8990: eclipse isnt gui for creating the windows and such i dont belive
[17:01] <Titan8990> DVA5912, geany handles C++ by default, eclipse and netbeans require plugins
[17:01] <ziroday> DVA5912: monodevelop may also be of interest
[17:01] <zer0o> dajhorn: brw-rw----+ 1 root cdrom 11, 0 2009-06-19 08:57 /dev/scd0
[17:01] <erUSUL> !info anjuta | DVA5912
[17:01] <joejc> can i customize the notifications?
[17:01] <Titan8990> DVA5912, you need a designer specific to the toolkit you are using
[17:01] <metalfan_> Titan8990, youre asking the wrong question
[17:01] <oenone1> i cant seem to log in on my jaunty
[17:01] <Titan8990> DVA5912, eg - qt or gtk
[17:01] <oenone1> after the log in screen
[17:01] <oenone1> it turns black
[17:01] <metalfan_> Titan8990, theres no replacement for visual c++ on linux, there are alternatives...other languages for examples
[17:01] <Titan8990> metalfan_, I don't think I asked anyone a question?
[17:02] <dajhorn> zer0o: On a clean Jaunty system, that device number is actually /dev/sr0.   Did you install Jaunty fresh?  If not, from which version did you upgrade?
[17:02] <stuckey> Titan8990: it said something like, couldn't load modules... something about something not being found
[17:02] <metalfan_> Titan8990, sry...wrong dude
[17:02] <DVA5912> ok well i got it on the first partiton on windows 7. Can i boot windows seven in like a virtural enviroment and play with it their?
[17:02] <Dermicha> how can i fix this problem when privoxy say this: http://paste.ubuntu.com/199372/ when i try to load a website with activated tor button?
[17:02] <metalfan_> DVA5912, youre asking the wrong question
[17:02] <Titan8990> stuckey, is this a custom kernel?
[17:02] <lvr> how do i get transmission, rhytmbox and such icons back to the toolbar in xubuntu? i removed them by accident and don't know how to reverse it
[17:02] <stuckey> Titan8990: default
[17:02] <stuckey> Titan8990: no custom kernels
[17:02] <oenone1> how can i fix my jaunty
[17:02] <metalfan_> DVA5912, theres no replacement for visual c++ on linux, there are alternatives...other languages for examples
[17:02] <zer0o> dajhorn: i didn't upgrade since 1 year in order to avoid problems like that ppl from yesterday, i run hardy heron
[17:03] <Titan8990> stuckey, I would guess the initrd line is wrong
[17:03] <metalfan_> oenone1, we need error messages, details
[17:03] <ziroday> Dermicha: don't use privoxy and tor together
[17:03] <metalfan_> oenone1, tell us anything  besides its not working DAH
[17:03] <miki> Can anybody say how to start stupid BRL-CAD in Ubuntu. I compiled it for half an hour and now dont know how to start it
[17:03] <Titan8990> stuckey, bad kernel line typically causes an init kernel panic
[17:03] <joejc> can i customize the notifications?
[17:03] <DVA5912> metalfan_: will applications built using visual C++ be able to run in linux?
[17:03] <Titan8990> stuckey, or file not found grub error
[17:03] <metalfan_> DVA5912, are you retarded?
[17:03] <dajhorn> zer0o: Did you use apt to do the upgrade, or did you use upgrade-manager?
[17:04] <DVA5912> yeah a bit
[17:04] <kapil> where does the clock applet get it's weather information from. is it configurable? is it documented somewhere?
[17:04] <DVA5912> lol
[17:04] <ctmjr> !ot
[17:04] <metalfan_> DVA5912, how can you not know this?  did you try google?
[17:04] <oenone1> how do i retrieve an error messsage ?
[17:04] <ziroday> DVA5912: no they won't, however monodevelop can help in porting them
[17:04] <DVA5912> just thought id make a full of my self
[17:04] <staar2> hi
[17:04] <metalfan_> DVA5912, first price :)
[17:04] <Bormy> Dear All, anybody know why we cannot connect to yahoo via pidgin?
[17:04] <ZykoticK9> miki after compiling to you do a "make install" or whatever the instructions for your CAD program say to do?  compiling is typically step 2 or three for compiling software.
[17:04] <oenone1> i get stuck right after the boot up screen
[17:04] <zer0o> dajhorn: i do not upgrade since 1 year
[17:04] <DVA5912> looks like im not getting rid of windows yet :(
[17:04] <miki> I did that
[17:04] <ziroday> Bormy: http://www.celticwolf.com/useful-information/faqs/26-pidgin-yahoo
[17:05] <staar2> i got distro name this Ubuntu karmic (development branch) this means i got wrong repos ?
[17:05] <dajhorn> zer0o: How did you do upgrade?  (It matters.)
[17:05] <ziroday> staar2: it means you are running ubuntu karmic
[17:05] <stuckey> Titan8990: there's only 3 files that begin with "init" in /boot, one of them is being used by the other OS, and the other had .bak at the end of the file name. I put the one that wasn't being used by the other OS and which didn't have .bak at the end of it's name into initrd for ubuntu
[17:05] <stuckey> but that didn't work
[17:05] <Bormy> i have faced this problem since yesterday
[17:05] <dajhorn> zer0o: Many people in the forums reported system breakage like you describe by skipping the Intrepid release.
[17:05] <ziroday> Bormy: did you read the link I have you?
[17:06] <zer0o> dajhorn: I DO NOT UPGRADE, NEVER, I DISABLED THE UPGRADES CUZ THEY WERE CAUSING ME PROBLEMS
[17:06] <Titan8990> DVA5912, because you chose to learn a proprietary language instead of the tons that offer good support regardless of the platform?
[17:06] <joejc> can i customize the notifications?
[17:06] <ziroday> joejc: not at this time
[17:06] <Titan8990> stuckey, honestly, I don't use initrd....
[17:06] <joejc> in 9.10?
[17:06] <dajhorn> zer0o: I'm confused.  You said that the system broke after an upgrade.
[17:06] <stuckey> Titan8990: what should be used?
[17:06] <ziroday> joejc: hopefully, its a planned feature.
[17:06] <zer0o> dajhorn: now i gave "sudo mount /dev/sdc0 /mnt" and that was the output "mount: special device /dev/sdc0 does not exist"
[17:07] <joejc> 10. 4?
[17:07] <silv3r_m00n> how to find graphics memory ?
[17:07] <lvr> how do i get transmission, rhytmbox and such icons back to the toolbar in xubuntu? i removed them by accident and don't know how to reverse it
[17:07] <Titan8990> stuckey, its not required if you compile a custom kernel but thats going to be MUCH more difficult then getting initrd to work
[17:07] <Bormy> ziroday: thanks
[17:07] <staar2> where i could find the jaunty repos list ?
[17:07] <ziroday> joejc: its very difficult to say.
[17:07] <joejc> 10.10?
[17:07] <om26er> during the setup of ubuntu there is an option "install boot loader"
[17:07] <zer0o> dajhorn: no ive never said that, ive said i havent touched anything and its 1 year i dont upgrade in order to avoid this kind of probs and just like this out of the blue my burner doesnt work anymore
[17:07] <ziroday> lvr: #xubuntu will be able to help
[17:07] <stuckey> Titan8990: okay, i'm just interested in booting ubuntu
[17:07] <Dermicha> ziroday: may i query you?
[17:07] <ziroday> joejc: as I just said, its very difficult to say. But patches are welcome.
[17:07] <oenone1> anybody please
[17:07] <joejc> 11.4?
[17:07] <oenone1> help me
[17:07] <mike_________> hello
[17:07] <oenone1> fix my januty
[17:08] <ziroday> Dermicha: please don't, ask in here unless its personal :)
[17:08] <oenone1> jaunty
[17:08] <regeya> !ask | oenone1
[17:08] <solomon> is resolvconf broken in jaunty?  while watching the file, it changes at some point while dhcp is working, but then goes back to only what network-manager thinks should be there
[17:08] <FloodBot1> oenone1: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:08] <Dermicha> ok :)
[17:08] <ziroday> joejc: are you reading what I said?
[17:08] <joejc> 11.10?
[17:08] <oenone1> i cant get past login screen
[17:08] <Titan8990> stuckey, i think initrd is typically named like vmlinuz or something
[17:08] <zer0o> what ive tried its all reported on this pastebin http://paste.ubuntu.com/199355/
[17:08] <dajhorn> zer0o: You have a typo in that command.   A rom drive is /dev/scd0.
[17:08] <om26er> if i disable istall boot loader what will happen
[17:08] <Titan8990> stuckey, pastebin: ls -l /boot
[17:08] <ctmjr> lvr: press alt+f1 to get xfce's help should be in there and nice to read anyway
[17:08] <solomon> is there some other prescribed way to prepend a particular nameserver to resolv.conf for all connections?
[17:08] <stuckey> Titan8990: I don't have X
[17:08] <stuckey> I can't copy and paste.
[17:09] <zer0o> dajhorn: thatz how itz called both on my system settings that on dolphin
[17:09] <joejc> 12.04?
[17:09] <Titan8990> stuckey, sudo apt-get install wgetpaste
[17:09] <lvr> yeah thanks i'll take a look
[17:09] <Bormy> ziroday: it works now.
[17:09] <stuckey> Titan8990: it's kernel that's named something like vmlinuz
[17:09] <ziroday> Bormy: great
[17:09] <ziroday> joejc: stop.
[17:09] <stuckey> Titan8990: initrd is initrd.img
[17:09] <joejc> 12.10?
[17:09] <greenkernel> Hi . again ..
[17:09] <Bormy> ziroday: thank you very much
[17:10] <Bormy> have a nice day.
[17:10] <Titan8990> stuckey, is that what you had it set to?
[17:10] <greenkernel> I was trying to boot with GRUB ..
[17:10] <Bormy> bye!
[17:10] <ziroday> Bormy: you too :)
[17:10] <Titan8990> stuckey, afk 5min
[17:10] <mike_________> i got a problem with video output. the sound i sometimes missing for like half of a second. i dunno really if it's a soundproblem or a hdd-problem though. it's a realtek ac888 chip and i got the drivers from the realtekhomepage. dmesg says a lot about DMA, so i think it's activated. can anyone help me?
[17:10] <joejc> 13.04?
[17:10] <greenkernel> kernel /vmlinuz-2.6.28-11-generic ... boot ..
[17:10] <oenone1> help me fix my januty please
[17:10] <dajhorn> zer0o: And your command syntax is kindof-softof incorrect.  The convention for a partially qualified mount is `mount <target>` not `mount <device>`.  Always fully qualify the mount when you're having problems.  mount <device> <target>
[17:10] <ledeboiter> nya ^^
[17:10] <metalfan_> after support for a ubuntu server version is over is it possible to update to the next version without reinstalling?
[17:10] <sipior> joejc: are you broken in some fashion?
[17:10] <greenkernel> it was trying to boot a couple of seconds .. then ..
[17:10] <joejc> 13.10?
[17:10] <sidath> can anybody tell me how to configure dialup?
[17:11] <joejc> 14.04?
[17:11] <Guest72950> !dialup
[17:11] <duryodhan> hi all .. how do I change the MAC address for my ethernet card ? ifconfig method screws things up for me -- the card goes out of the managed connections in nm-applet
[17:11] <greenkernel> kernel panic- not syncing: VFS: unable to mount root fs on unknown-block (104,1) ...
[17:11] <greenkernel> What is that?
[17:11] <ctmjr> !ops|joejc
[17:11] <zer0o> dajhorn: ive also tried "mount /dev/sdc0 /media/cdrom0" nothing changed anyway
[17:11] <joejc> 14.10?
[17:11] <sipior> ctmjr: hardly an emergency...
[17:12] <jpds> joejc: Please stop.
[17:12] <Pricey> joejc: No need to continue that.
[17:12] <duryodhan> greenkernel: that usually means that you don't have a kernel that supports your fs directly
[17:12] <dajhorn> zer0o: If everything seems sensible, check whether your disc is empty.   Media goes bad.
[17:12] <ziroday> sipior: but still an acute irritation
[17:12] <mike_________> noone with a realtek ac888 soundchip here?
[17:12] <sipior> ctmjr: simply try "/ignore joejc", and all your problems are solved.
[17:12] <duryodhan> greenkernel: usually a problem with your initrd
[17:12] <damasceno> Somebody try install ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT Pro?
[17:12] <dajhorn> zer0o: Your dmesg suggests that the media is blank.
[17:12] <joejc> 15.04?
[17:13] <space_cadet> ok i'm having a problem with my graphics.  I have the nVidia 9600gsm and am using the 180 drivers
[17:13] <zer0o> dajhorn: i said i tried to put different disks inside, blanks or not, it won't change the situation
[17:13] <duryodhan> also, how do I setup pppoe in ubuntu ?
[17:13] <ziroday> space_cadet: what's wrong?
[17:13] <space_cadet> when i use compiz the effects do not work as expected
[17:13] <greenkernel> How can I configure my initrd?
[17:13] <ziroday> !pppoe | space_cadet
[17:13] <dajhorn> zer0o: The laser ina CD-R or DVD-R drive is a consumable part.  Your hardware could be burned out.
[17:13] <space_cadet> when i scroll the desktop cube, it keeps the old desktop image up, until it switches
[17:13] <gonza321> hello
[17:14] <ziroday> !pppoe |  duryodhan
[17:14] <duryodhan> I guess that was for me ziroday .. thanks
[17:14] <space_cadet> ?
[17:14] <DexterF> does ubuntu detect flash media and apply appropriate mount options like noatime to prevent wear out?
[17:14] <ziroday> space_cadet: sorry, wrong person :)
[17:14] <space_cadet> kk
[17:14] <ziroday> DexterF: no
[17:14] <greenkernel> my file systems are all EXT3 except for OpenBSD ..
[17:14] <dsdeiz> how to add startup programs through the terminal?
[17:14] <zer0o> dajhorn: thatz what i was thinking indeed, even if it is so its weird cuz i barely use it
[17:14] <greenkernel> how can my linux kernel can't recognize them?
[17:14] <duryodhan> ziroday: already seen that -- the command line thing is a pain; the connection doesn't show in my nm-applet
[17:14] <space_cadet> It happened after i ran cairo-dock and it asked if i wanted to use OpenGL
[17:15] <space_cadet> but it asked on every boot/login
[17:15] <zer0o> dajhorn: so u think so even if the system mentioned missing permissions?
[17:15] <dajhorn> dsdeiz: The easy way is /etc/rc.local.  The right way is `update-rc.d`.
[17:15] <space_cadet> so I am wondering if there is an underlying problem i have not addressed
[17:15] <DexterF> ziroday: so - ubuntu is harmful to flash media, in a nutshell.
[17:16] <ziroday> DexterF: not at all, you can manually define those settings in /etc/fstab. Is this a usb flash drive we are talking about here?
[17:16] <Guest72950> any others here with pidgin problems? cant connect to yahoo account.
[17:16] <space_cadet> does anyone know if there are newer drivers for nVidia (i'm using the 180 drivers)
[17:16] <dajhorn> dsdeiz: Non-root users can add cron job with the @reboot macro.
[17:16] <duryodhan> ziroday: I was thinking there would a way I would be able to start and stop and see status in my system tray in nm-applet
[17:16] <ziroday> Guest72950: http://www.celticwolf.com/useful-information/faqs/26-pidgin-yahoo
[17:16] <DexterF> ziroday: it's four slots in a usb card reader *and* a pen drive
[17:16] <ziroday> duryodhan: not that I know of sorry
[17:16] <duryodhan> ok
[17:16] <greenkernel> I had so many troubles with my Ubuntu .. especially when I tried to install OpenBSD as dual boot .. :P
[17:16] <space_cadet> !nvidia | space_cadet
[17:16] <dajhorn> zer0o: Yes, because your configuration looks normal and you didn't change anything.
[17:16] <sheikpunk> hello!
[17:16] <ziroday> DexterF: right, you are hardly going to ever hit the wear limit on any of those for a long while.
[17:17] <greenkernel> Now, I can't use either Ubuntu or OpenBSD ...
[17:17] <duryodhan> ziroday: I manage it once in a while, but after a while it goes away as on a restart nm-applet puts my ethernet card in the "not managed " list
[17:17] <ziroday> DexterF: if you are worried then define those settings in /etc/fstab
[17:17] <DexterF> ziroday: I already trashed a sony memory stick
[17:17] <ziroday> duryodhan: I'm not sure sorry
[17:17] <duryodhan> ziroday: I think its because of the mac address change and that puts my eth0 to eth1 -- ergo my first question,  how to change mac address in gui without messing up udev
[17:17] <duryodhan> yeah sorry
[17:17] <zer0o> dajhorn: yes but so why the system doesnt tell me the burner is broken instead of telling me i dont have the right permissions?
[17:17] <duryodhan> I kept typing ziroday , my bad
[17:17] <DexterF> ziroday: I would, but how would I define the device? after all, that pen drive isn't always sdX
[17:17] <sheikpunk> its possible use on empathy, http method for msn accounts?
[17:18] <Dermicha> so i ok, tor is running correctly...
[17:18] <Dermicha> cya and thx :)
[17:18] <duryodhan> DexterF: you can use uuid
[17:18] <dsdeiz> dajhorn: hmm, it also means i have to reboot to see if I got everything right?
[17:18] <dajhorn> zer0o: Because laser-fade is gradual.  If you keep logs, then check the syslog and messages log files for read errors.  You could have them, but the system won't warn you.
[17:18] <ziroday> DexterF: you are hardly ever going to hit the wear limit on a usb thumbdrive with everyday use. Sorry.
[17:18] <jiffe> is there a way to not display the vanishing files warnings when rsyncing?
[17:19] <Guest72950> thnx.  =)
[17:19] <greenkernel> Should I re-install Ubuntu? ... that will give me a lot of pain .. :'(
[17:19] <dajhorn> dsdeiz: Yes.
[17:19] <oenone1> my jaunty crashed after installing xorg
[17:19] <oenone1> can i revive my jaunty ?
[17:20] <DexterF> duryodhan: I can't use uuid on that card reader because each medium will have another uuid and I would have to define a new fstab entry for *every* pen drive that comes into my system 1st time. not viable.
[17:20] <sheikpunk> its possible use on empathy, http method for msn accounts?
[17:20] <om26er> which xfce version is built in in xubuntu
[17:20] <DexterF> ziroday: beg to differ. typical cell lifetime is about 100000 writes which are easily reached with FAT32
[17:21] <DexterF> om26er: 4.6 in 9.04
[17:21] <ziroday> DexterF: this conversation is better suited to #ubuntu-offtopic, why don't we take it there?
[17:21] <zer0o> dajhorn: this is my last log, do u get anything out of this? http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/199389/
[17:21] <baker_GR> rebooting from recovery mode, i saw something like unloading Conexant Modem, untill now i thought that 9.04 didnt recognize my modem, if i lspci or lsusb, lshw i dont find something about modem, how can i see if its recognized?
[17:21] <greenkernel> Any suggestion for my problem .. ??
[17:21] <henkboom> I created a swap file and it seems to be working since I can see the space in "top", but hibernation still isn't working =( Here's the output of the hibernation command and dmesg: http://pastebin.com/m384e8728
[17:22] <space_cadet> all right guys... http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/199390/
[17:22] <dsdeiz> dajhorn: one last question.. :D can ubuntu read .xsession or .Xinitrc?
[17:22] <dajhorn> zer0o: You'll need to go further back.  "bread" is a read fault.   "beyond end of device" usually means a bad burn.
[17:23] <sipior> DexterF: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=988150
[17:23] <duryodhan> greenkernel: start from the begining -- where did you end up with this problem ?
[17:23] <dajhorn> zer0o: Yes, I think so.
[17:23] <Titan8990> space_cadet, the problem?
[17:23] <duryodhan> greenkernel: what were you trying to do ?
[17:23] <dajhorn> zer0o: I've got xsession stuff in my home directory.
[17:23] <dakarn> dajhorn: if you get a bread error from a bad burn. does that mean the media is toast?
[17:23] <greenkernel> I'm trying to boot my system ..
[17:23] <gowriel> hello everybody! Does anybody has some ideea why the PIDGIN connects in for an yahoo ID but doesn't shows any of the ID's in my list?! I really don't know what to do now... thank you kindly!
[17:23] <space_cadet> Titan8990, compiz cube && rotate cube doesn't work correctly
[17:23] <greenkernel> I have already installed Ubuntu 9.04 ..
[17:23] <zer0o> dajhorn: so what r u saying? my burner's broken?
[17:23] <Titan8990> space_cadet, whats wrong with it?
[17:23] <space_cadet> Titan8990, it acts like i am using a normal VGA driver
[17:24] <henkboom> ziroday: got the swap file working, but it still won't hibernate =(
[17:24] <dajhorn> zer0o: Yes, probably,  based on the information given.
[17:24] <ziroday> sipior: this conversation is continuing in #ubuntu-offtopic, you can participate in there
[17:24] <sheikpunk> its possible use webcam on pidgin?
[17:24] <zer0o> dajhorn: ok thanks :D
[17:24] <space_cadet> Titan8990, it keeps displaying the old picture throughout the rotation
[17:24] <space_cadet> Titan8990, and it looks umm... crappy?
[17:24] <dakarn> gowriel:  under buddies > show , make sure their group is enabled
[17:24] <zer0o> dajhorn: ill spend this 8 euro to buy a new one ;)
[17:24] <Titan8990> space_cadet, pastebin glxinfo
[17:24] <sipior> ziroday: he was asking about mounting a usb drive with the noatime flag. that's pretty clearly a support issue, which belongs in this channel.
[17:24] <greenkernel> the GRUB is not booting my system automatically ...
[17:25] <DexterF> sipior: interesting
[17:25] <dajhorn> dakarn: Can you  be more specific?  -- You can't reburn coastered CD-R or DVD-R media, but you can blank and retry CD-RW and DVD-RW media.
[17:25] <TuGa> hello ppl i'm trying to setup pyrit to run on a ubuntu9.04 x64 deskt with geforce9700Mgt and after installing nvidia 185.18.14 driver tools and SDK i get this error wend running pyrit any idea? http://pastebin.com/m32f26ef0
[17:25] <space_cadet> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/199392/  Titan8990
[17:25] <dakarn> dajhorn: it was a joke i came into the convo late
[17:25] <Titan8990> space_cadet, drivers are fine
[17:25] <gowriel> dakarn! thank you!!! i wil try that , and if it doesn't work , I'll leave it like that! Right now i'm really tired after a day working...
[17:26] <space_cadet> Titan8990, kk
[17:26] <space_cadet> Titan8990, well.. i installed cairo-dock a while ago
[17:26] <Titan8990> space_cadet, try adding: Option	"Composite" "Enable" to the video card section
[17:26] <Titan8990> space_cadet, does cairo-dock work?
[17:26] <dakarn> gowriel: enable show offline buddies and it will show you everyone that's in your buddy list
[17:26] <space_cadet> Titan8990, and it seemed to work fine, up until about a week ago...
[17:26] <space_cadet> Titan8990, but now it's asking if i want to use OpenGL
[17:26] <q0_0p> !xprg
[17:26] <duryodhan> greenkernel: hmm -- did you JUSt install ubuntu ?
[17:27] <q0_0p> !xorg
[17:27] <space_cadet> Titan8990, but it's showing correctly, (no black behind it)
[17:27] <Titan8990> space_cadet, have you updated your kernel since you installed the nvidia drivers?
[17:27] <space_cadet> hmm...
[17:28] <space_cadet> i don't think so...
[17:28] <neo8848> hmmm... has anyone noticed why the mysql-server, client ... lamp packages do not readily appear as part of the synaptic list in jaunty?
[17:28] <q0_0p> i had a question about sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart
[17:28] <q0_0p> is that gdm restart?
[17:28] <greenkernel> No, I've been using it about two weeks ..
[17:28] <Titan8990> neo8848, sudo apt-get update
[17:28] <space_cadet> Titan8990, maybe though, i installed when it came a full release
[17:28] <space_cadet> Linux 2.6.28-11-generic [i686/800.50MHz/SMP]
[17:28] <greenkernel> The problem began when I tried to install gag software ..
[17:28] <Titan8990> space_cadet, try reinstalling the nvidia driver
[17:29] <Titan8990> space_cadet, it typically needs to be reinstalled after kernel upgrades
[17:29] <neo8848> i did the list update from synaptic, and no result
[17:29] <greenkernel> gag > http://gag.sourceforge.net/
[17:29] <gfmniky_> ciao a tutti,qualcuno di voi sa se esiste una distro dove non si aggirna la versione tipo ubuntu 8.10 a 9.04, ma solo i pacchetti?
[17:29] <erUSUL> !it | gfmniky_
[17:29] <Nationiant> Hey
[17:29] <neo8848> but yes, you're right
[17:29] <greenkernel> it's a graphical boot manager ..
[17:29] <bsl> any recommendations on a upnp media server (on ubuntu server)
[17:29] <wildc4rd> afternoon all
[17:29] <Nationiant> Can someone explain me how to install Ubuntu to Macintosh PowerBook G3?
[17:29] <Titan8990> neo8848, still not seeing it?
[17:29] <erUSUL> !ppc | Nationiant
[17:30] <baker_GR> rebooting from recovery mode, i saw something like unloading Conexant Modem, untill now i thought that 9.04 didnt recognize my modem, if i lspci or lsusb, lshw i dont find something about modem, how can i see if its recognized?
[17:30] <duryodhan> greenkernel: pop in the ubuntu CD , there must be a "Recover Option" or something like that when you boot up
[17:30] <neo8848> after the synaptic command, nothing, so i had to apt-get from cli to install lamp
[17:30] <bsl> ubottu: upnp server
[17:30] <duryodhan> !boot
[17:30] <bsl> ubottu: upnp
[17:30] <wwp06> hello all..Is there anyway to change the font in the TTY's?
[17:30] <duryodhan> !recover
[17:31] <greenkernel> So, are you suggesting me to recover from an Ubuntu LiveCD?
[17:31] <q0_0p> xrandr gives me resolutions up to 1280x768 but it says maximum resoltion is 1280x1200?
[17:31] <duryodhan> greenkernel: yes
[17:31] <neo8848> sad, i had a much easier time with hardy
[17:31] <space_cadet> Titan8990, restarting x, brb
[17:31] <duryodhan> greenkernel: I am a noob to ubuntu so don't know how exactly it will work
[17:31] <duryodhan> greenkernel: I would google around
[17:31] <erUSUL> !lamp | neo8848
[17:31] <Titan8990> neo8848, that because hardy was meant to be a server version
[17:31] <knasto> Hello, Is it possible to mount a usb webcam?
[17:31] <greenkernel> Me too . . I'm quite new to Ubuntu .. and GRUB too ..
[17:31] <duryodhan> knasto: why would you ?
[17:32] <Nationiant> Can someone explain me how to install Ubuntu to Macintosh PowerBook G3?
[17:32] <Titan8990> neo8848, hence LTS and update schedules that are more traditional
[17:33] <greenkernel> Anyway .. thanks duryodhan .. I'm trying to recover my system from a LiveCD ..
[17:33] <knasto> duryodhan, I know my webcam isnt supported via ubuntu, but im trying to get it to work with xp under virualbox. However it doesn't show up in virtualbox, although when I enter into the terminal lsusb, it shows up. I'm wondering if I'm suppose to mount it. Any ideas durodhan?
[17:33] <bsl> !mythtv
[17:34] <majnoon> <--has *buntu i think
[17:34] <duryodhan> knasto: basically, you mount drives not devices -- and I have no idea about connecting your virtualbox to your usb ports -- but I don't think mounting would help
[17:34] <erUSUL> knasto: ask in #vbox ... i think the ose version of vbox does not support usb ? or you have to configure some things to make host usb's be visible to the guest
[17:34] <Nationiant> Can someone explain me how to install Ubuntu to Macintosh PowerBook G3?
[17:34] <duryodhan> knasto: when you connect , does dmesg at least mention that you connected something ?
[17:35] <ainjer> i can
[17:35] <ainjer> i can help you
[17:35] <knasto> durydohan and erUSUL, flash drives work, just not my webcam
[17:36] <ainjer> #Na
[17:36] <Nationiant> How can I install Ubuntu (6.06 LTS should work) to a PowerBook G3?
[17:36] <ichat> duryodhan:  -  usb support in  vbox is propretariy software,  managing it should be done from inside the app itself,,   (if its not workin for you (or the one you help) - one is best to ask on the vbox forums or  check thair Buggtracker
[17:36] <Titan8990> Nationiant, 6.06 is no longer supported
[17:36] <Titan8990> !ppc | Nationiant
[17:36] <ichat> (inside the app as in - thair own  gui  aplication ...
[17:36] <Titan8990> !edgy | Nationiant
[17:37] <damasceno> how can i install ATI Technologies Inc 3D Rage LT Pro in Ubuntu 9.04?
[17:37] <Titan8990> !dapper | Nationiant
[17:37] <PiotrK> !help
[17:37] <q0_0p> can anyone help me with xorg.conf?
[17:37] <Nationiant> Titan8990: Can't you help me? 6.06 is the last one to fit that Mac
[17:37] <space_cadet> Titan8990, great job mate
[17:37] <petaflot> hello. I'd like to know where I can find which verions numbers are each of hardy-gutsy-karmic-whatever
[17:37] <space_cadet> Titan8990, you got it right on the head
[17:38] <Titan8990> space_cadet, nice, good to hear
[17:38] <mikebeecham> hey guys...is it at all possible to change the font and fontsize of the clock without having to change all fonts and fontsizes?
[17:38] <space_cadet> Titan8990, this is why i LOVE the Open Source Community
[17:38] <knasto> duryodhan, actually its showing up now
[17:38] <q0_0p> anyone can take a look at my xorg.conf and help me out?
[17:38] <q0_0p> http://paste-bin.com/view/332df814
[17:38] <knasto> duryodhan, thanks anyway
[17:38] <dakarn> i just poured liquid in my keyboard
[17:39] <Titan8990> Nationiant, its not much different from the other versions, but I would expect the package to be pulled from repos soon
[17:39] <space_cadet> q0_0p, are you missing some sections?
[17:39] <q0_0p> i want to add a resolution
[17:39] <space_cadet> q0_0p, there isn't a driver listed in there
[17:39] <Titan8990> q0_0p, many people that think that they need to add a resolution really just need to use a driver that support the resolution they are looking for
[17:40] <q0_0p> im able to use compiz
[17:40] <Titan8990> q0_0p, becuase HAL will detect those resolutions
[17:40] <q0_0p> why isn't driver listed in xorg?
[17:40] <Nationiant> Titan8990: But, the newer versions don't support that processor I think
[17:40] <Nationiant> Well I'll try debian
[17:40] <q0_0p> so my resolutions were already detected and no point in messing with xorg?
[17:40] <Titan8990> q0_0p, because HAL loads the driver, a xorg.conf is not required as of xorg 1.5, only for proprietary drivers
[17:40] <q0_0p> ah
[17:40] <space_cadet> q0_0p, try     sudo lshw -C video
[17:40] <q0_0p> k
[17:41] <Titan8990> Nationiant, the newest version still supports ppc
[17:41] <space_cadet> pastebin it of course
[17:41] <Titan8990> Nationiant, you could have clicked on think that was sent to you twice
[17:41] <Titan8990> Nationiant, we are not going to install it for you
[17:41] <Nationiant> Alright I got it...
[17:41] <space_cadet> ssh nationiant@idunno.com
[17:41] <space_cadet> lol
[17:41] <q0_0p> http://paste-bin.com/view/6ce3b53e
[17:42] <space_cadet> unclaimed?
[17:42] <new2linx> can anyone help me rename a bunch of movies from movie cd1.avi & movie cd2.avi so that they are movie.1.avi & movie2.avi
[17:42] <space_cadet> !ati
[17:42] <neo8848> thanks guys... i'll probaby get the server and alternate disks for ubuntu
[17:42] <Titan8990> space_cadet, only proprietary drivers will show via lshw
[17:42] <spaztik1> hey guys, anyone know why the 3 finger salute wouldn't work to restart GDM?
[17:42] <space_cadet> humm
[17:43] <Titan8990> space_cadet, because the proprietary drivers are actually kernel modules but the open source drivers are xorg modules
[17:43] <space_cadet> so the radeon isn't proprietary?
[17:43] <petllama> if i want to output to a logfile, ie. "rsync blah blah > rsync.log" how can i have it append the time/date the the logfile so the logfile name is rsync_time/date.log
[17:43] <ichat> !netbook-remix
[17:43] <space_cadet> noted
[17:43] <new2linx> spaztik, i noticed that ctrl alt delete doesn't work in jaunty
[17:43] <Titan8990> space_cadet, it is, but he hasn't installed it yet
[17:43] <ichat> !netbook
[17:43] <legend2440> !ati > me
[17:43] <ichat> :(
[17:43] <spike> hiw, anybody with 2 monitors that can make one vertical and one horizontal? running nvidia with proprietary drivers
[17:43] <edaunal> hi all
[17:44] <churl> is there a common reason for xorg to take up 65% of your processor when running an app?
[17:44] <space_cadet> Titan8990, aah i get it now
[17:44] <q0_0p> i'm very lost
[17:44] <namd3r> Is it possible to create a bootable Windows Vista USB install disk from inside Ubuntu?  I have the .iso file I need.
[17:44] <new2linx> spaztik1, i went back to hardy because I wanted a LTS release.
[17:44] <edaunal> please help me; how can i configure my webcam options in system-wide?
[17:44] <ichat> namd3r:  - no its not
[17:45] <Titan8990> churl, if you are running compiz on a not-so-good video card, yes
[17:45] <Titan8990> churl, or compositing in general
[17:45] <churl> Titan8990: just running wesnoth
[17:45] <legend2440> !dontzap | spaztik1
[17:45] <ichat> namd3r:  -  you could if you installed it in a VM first
[17:45] <space_cadet> Titan8990, shouldn't he try out the linux-restricted-modules-generic ?
[17:46] <Titan8990> space_cadet, if he wanted the mesa drivers, put he prolly wants fglrx
[17:46] <Titan8990> space_cadet, i have the same card actually
[17:46] <churl> Titan8990: i have a bug, i changed my resolution, and then totem didnt work anymore. even web browsing is slow to move the screen
[17:46] <namd3r> ichat, Like VirtualBox?
[17:46] <space_cadet> lol
[17:47] <ulysses> Hey, how can one change the font in the TTY consoles?
[17:47] <kurthy> hi
[17:47] <tntc> eurythmia: didn't work. I got no sound at all, and it only detected an OSS device.  I'm gonna stick with the realtek drivers.
[17:47] <space_cadet> namd3r, just like virtualbox
[17:47] <ichat> - namd3r  -  yes, - you also at leas need  the  WAIK stuf from  MS -  not quite funny to work with
[17:47] <Titan8990> ulysses, framebuffer
[17:47] <Titan8990> !framebuffer
[17:47] <churl> Titan8990: i tried to send in some of my data to try and help with the bug, but had a few issues figuring out how to upload my error file and to who
[17:47] <new2linx> ubottu, do you know why they changed the ctrl-alt-dele?
[17:48] <ewsubach> how do i tell what value a key generates on the keyboard?
[17:48] <Titan8990> churl, its more likely a configuration issue
[17:48] <space_cadet> new2linx, you mean ctrl alt backspace?
[17:48] <new2linx> space_cadet, yes, sorry
[17:48] <ulysses> Titan8990: Im a complete noob at all this. Can I know how to do it?
[17:48] <Titan8990> new2linx, its the current trend amogst all distros
[17:48] <new2linx> Titan8990, oh?
[17:49] <Titan8990> ulysses, I have say... framebuffer consoles is not a trivial task
[17:49] <Titan8990> !framebuffer | ulysses
[17:49] <space_cadet> new2linx, it's so when n00bs go mashing keys, because they don't understand how superior linux is to windows, they don't bring their pc down
[17:49] <n0gear> how do i force resolutions for my 2 monitors. they're different size and it gets all screwed up when i plug in the 2nd one
[17:49] <namd3r> ichat, haha dang.  I might as well just go buy a DVD to burn it to.  That's the only reason I want to do it with the USB stick - not wanting to go outside...
[17:49] <Titan8990> new2linx, from what I have seen, yes. starting with opensolaris a but over a year ago
[17:49] <ulysses> Thank guys...will try
[17:49] <ichat> namd3r:  -   but installin  windows on a usb drive,  is more of a windows only hacky-like thing,  - you should be able to find info on the the net  (msfn.com - has a good refecens forum about these things ) ....   -  and  i shouldn't be addressing it here  i think
[17:49] <pilo> hoal
[17:50] <pilo> hola
[17:50] <eurythmia> tntc, sorry it didn't work, thanks for sharing your experience though :)
[17:50] <space_cadet> namd3r, there is a post about it
[17:50] <pilo> quien esta ahi
[17:50] <churl> Titan8990: well, can i roll back to intrepid? im ready to do about anything to get my system working well again
[17:50] <space_cadet> namd3r, i'll pm it to you
[17:50] <new2linx> Titan8990, is there any chance. i am trying to rename a bunch of movies from movie cd1.avi & movie cd2.avi so that they are movie.1.avi & movie2.avi
[17:50] <kurthy> i would like to ask that have anyone exprerience with ati mobility firegl v5250 on ubuntu?
[17:50] <pilo> spanis
[17:50] <Titan8990> churl, your using an alpha release?
[17:50] <pilo> hello
[17:50] <pilo> byebe
[17:50] <pilo> ajjajajajjaja
[17:50] <ewsubach> please anyone, how do i tell what value a key generates on the keyboard?
[17:50] <kurthy> i would line to by lenovo t500,but it is with this ati graphic card
[17:51] <pilo> hello
[17:51] <Titan8990> new2linx, ? wern't we talking about ctrl+alt+backspace?
[17:51] <pilo> hola
[17:51] <pilo> soy brihan
[17:51] <spaztik1> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[17:51] <space_cadet> namd3r, it's a hack and slash method that involves extracting and repacking the installation image
[17:51] <spaztik1> Titan8990 new2linx - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[17:51] <Titan8990> new2linx, anyways, thats likely a job for sed, see #bash
[17:51] <new2linx> Titan8990, yes. I am changing the subject.
[17:51] <tntc> eurythmia: hehe. always happy to help
[17:51] <kurthy> can anyone help me?
[17:52] <DexterF> sipior: what's preferable on setting usb mount options, udev or HAL?
[17:52] <vint_> есть кто?
[17:52] <eurythmia> me too :)
[17:52] <space_cadet> !ru
[17:52] <new2linx> Titan8990, i  have to learn bash and sed? you're not familiar with a command that would do what I'd like?
[17:52] <Ffunk74> vint_, иди на ubuntu-ru :-)
[17:52] <Wesselaar> ewsubach: is this something ? http://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-HOWTO/Keyboard-and-Console-HOWTO.html#ss5.2
[17:52] <elad`> Say I have a string that's a line of integers separated by spaces. How do I get that into a tuple of integers?
[17:52] <namd3r> space_cadet, thanks for the link, I'll see if I can muddle through it...
[17:52] <Titan8990> DexterF, udev doesn't mount filesystems
[17:53] <sipior> DexterF: i believe hal is used currently, but i've heard rumours that a move to udev will occur at some point.
[17:53] <vint_> ok
[17:53] <elad`> map(int, some_way_to_break_down_the_string), I imagine?
[17:53] <sipior> Titan8990: it can.
[17:53] <space_cadet> namd3r, be aware, that page is a bit old...
[17:53] <elad`> Oops
[17:53] <Titan8990> DexterF, udev only assigns its device name
[17:53] <elad`> Wrong channel.
[17:53] <DexterF> elad`: in bash? eval, I'd say. #bash and #perl are probably the domains you want to roam
[17:53] <elad`> DexterF, Python. Wrong channel. Sorry.
[17:53] <ewsubach> Wesselaar: i found that page when i googled. no, i just want to find what my map is or whatever. i'm converting joystick input to keyboard key codes
[17:53] <Titan8990> new2linx, no, that fairly advanced
[17:54] <Titan8990> new2linx, likely requires some regular expression
[17:54] <Titan8990> new2linx, I could write a small script in python if it were me doing it
[17:54] <Wesselaar> ewsubach: didnt know that you googled allready :-)
[17:54] <space_cadet> new2linx, go by a book on sed...  then you will know how that command can do what you want it to, with the right knowledge
[17:54] <ewsubach> Wesselaar: that's okay. i only come on irc if google can't help me. now it seems nobody here can :(
[17:55] <zleap> ewsubach, whats the issue
[17:55] <new2linx> Titan8990, ok, hoping to get the easy way out. i'll goggle away I suppose and or read bash and sed.
[17:55] <churl> Titan8990: i can't find "alpha" anywhere next to  "9.04 jaunty" info
[17:55] <space_cadet> new2linx, google      man sed
[17:55] <space_cadet> or just run man sed
[17:55] <new2linx> space_cadet, ok. i just figured coming here someone would know how to do this.
[17:55] <scalar> hi all
[17:55] <churl> hi there!
[17:55] <ewsubach> zleap: i want to know what key codes my keyboard generates, what the mapping is. the values in /usr/include/X11/keysymdef.h don't seem to be working
[17:56]  * regeya scrolls back, is somehow missing new2linx's question...
[17:56] <zleap> ok
[17:56] <Titan8990> churl, sorry, got my names mixed up
[17:56] <zleap> i am sure there are programs out there that will tell you that
[17:56] <space_cadet> it's a bit complicated considering you would have to either custom a script to go digging or just run sed with some regular expressions...
[17:56] <Titan8990> churl, there is no downgrade path, clean installs are recommended both ways
[17:56] <new2linx> Regel,  i am trying to rename a bunch of movies from movie cd1.avi & movie cd2.avi so that they are movie.1.avi & movie2.avi
[17:56] <regeya> not sure why someone would go to a bash channel to ask an offtopic sed question, though...
[17:57] <space_cadet> new2linx, maybe you could try in #sed    if it exists
[17:57] <Titan8990> it does
[17:57] <regeya> oh...well, new2linx, there's this handy utility named rename that ships with perl
[17:57] <space_cadet> of course it does, what was I thinking.... :)
[17:58] <ewsubach> zleap: i wouldn't be here asking if i had found those programs
[17:58] <Titan8990> regeya, ships with perl? isn't it a part or core-utils?
[17:58] <regeya> rename s/\ cd/\./ *.avi
[17:58] <CoreyTaylor> now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!now then CUNTS!!!!
[17:58] <CoreyTaylor> now then CUNTS!!!!
[17:58] <CoreyTaylor> now then CUNTS!!!!
[17:58] <CoreyTaylor> now then CUNTS!!!!
[17:58] <FloodBot1> CoreyTaylor: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[17:58] <Titan8990> !op | CoreyTaylor
[17:58] <regeya> Titan8990: could be, but I'm pretty sure it's perl
[17:58] <ahz> What puts files in ~/.local/share/Trash/expunged ?
[17:58] <CoreyTaylor> now then CUNTS!!!!
[17:58] <Titan8990> regeya, pretty sure all the core-utils are written in C
[17:58] <churl> Titan8990: thanks for helping me and everyone else here!  youre awesome!
[17:59] <Titan8990> churl, np, good luck
[17:59] <space_cadet> wow
[17:59] <daishadar> how do i get a similar context menu for gvim in ubuntu as in windows?  windows had a nice context menu where you could right click and diff files, open in exiting gvim editors, etc.
[17:59] <layer> anyone with slapd installed...could you please send me your copy of misc.schema?  i deleted mine on accident ;)
[17:59] <zleap> i can write a program in speccy basic to do that
[17:59] <zleap> which is not of much use really eh
[17:59] <leandrojcaetano> hiiii.. i'm back!
[18:00] <ubuntu_> cüssss
[18:00] <zleap> ewsubach, I have something
[18:01] <Titan8990> regeya, confirmed, rename is part of coreutils: http://rpmfind.net/linux/RPM/fedora/devel/ppc/coreutils-7.2-1.fc11.ppc.html
[18:01] <zleap> have sent to an im windo
[18:01] <zleap> or pm window what ever they are called on irc
[18:01] <ewsubach> zleap: hold on, may have found something
[18:01] <space_cadet> i call em spam tabs
[18:01] <zleap> ok
[18:02] <space_cadet> lol
[18:02] <regeya> Titan8990: does this matter so much that we have to go offtopic about it?  OK, weird, admittedly the linux box here is a debian box and not ubuntu, but a dpkg -S /usr/bin/rename finds nothing.
[18:03] <space_cadet> O_o
[18:04] <zleap> i was just sending the url of a possible solution to the im window
[18:04] <Titan8990> regeya, i think dpkg -S wants a package name and apt-file uses a directory path, could be wrong though
[18:04] <space_cadet> lol    regeya Usage: rename [-v] [-n] [-f] perlexpr [filenames]
[18:04] <space_cadet> regeya, /usr/bin/rename
[18:04] <space_cadet> una
[18:04] <space_cadet> er
[18:04] <space_cadet> Linux 2.6.28-11-generic [i686/800.50MHz/SMP]
[18:05] <regeya> the rename on that box, however, is written in perl; original version by larry wall.  maybe that's where my confusion lies.  that sure mattered!
[18:06] <regeya> space_cadet: thanks, but I'm the one who brought up rename as a *solution* :-> then had Titan8990 give me a lecture about what package it belongs to because I assumed it was a perl app...because my peabrain remembered that it used to be :-}
[18:06] <dakarn> using a usb dongle that connects via 3g for PPPo connection, can i query the connection strength?
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[18:06] <Titan8990> space_cadet, yeah, he was trying to determine which package in came out of, not its location
[18:07] <space_cadet> from the perl source.
[18:07] <dajhorn> dakarn: Generally, no.  When I've wanted to do this, I've had to search for chipset-specific utilities.
[18:08] <dakarn> dajhorn: so most likely limited to proprietary software from manufacturer?
[18:08] <regeya> Titan8990: actually I mentioned it as an aside when giving a hint, after the poor slob got sent to a bash channel to get sed help
[18:08] <regeya> ah, to be surrounded by experts in not giving answers...'tis bliss.
[18:09] <dajhorn> dakarn: Yup.  Not even Mac OS X shows it to you for some supported cards.
[18:09] <space_cadet> lol   he still hasn't shown up in #sed either
[18:09] <Titan8990> regeya, I didn't know so I directed him towards people who did
[18:09] <dajhorn> dakarn: And that's my Ubuntu currency metric.  :)
[18:10] <gabeodess> http://pastie.org/517744 can anyone help me with this?
[18:11] <dajhorn> gabeodess: Install the build-essential package and try again.
[18:11] <Guest61669> hey, quick question
[18:11] <gabeodess> thanks dajhorn
[18:11] <Guest61669> how do i start vm workstation as root?
[18:12] <space_cadet> is there any way i can change ctrl+alt+l to superkey+l ??
[18:12] <Titan8990> Guest61669, shouldn't need to
[18:12] <space_cadet> ever
[18:12] <Guest61669> i know gksudo is a graphical command, but how do i start vmworkstation in terminal
[18:13] <baba_b00ie> sudo followed by the vmware command
[18:13] <space_cadet> never ever ever would you ever need or want to give windows that much power
[18:13] <Guest61669> Titan8990...i wanted to change the memory
[18:13] <dakarn> dajhorn: as i'm sure there is a way -- the internet is littered with ancient texts that are no longer relevant to existing kernel support
[18:13] <slayton> is there a way to specify which g++ version to use?  is it a configure flag an environment variable?
[18:14] <dajhorn> slayton:  CXX=gcc-fooversion make
[18:15] <henkboom> I can't seem to get hibernation working with a swap file, should I just repartition?
[18:15] <dajhorn> slayton: eg:  export CXX=gcc-4.3 ; ./configure ; # etc
[18:15] <Titan8990> Guest61669, gksu vmplayer
[18:15] <slayton> dajhorn, ok thanks that is exactly what I needed
[18:15] <Titan8990> Guest61669, or just type 'v' and hit tab a few times
[18:16] <CrocoJet> Hi for all !
[18:16] <dajhorn> slayton:   I mixmatched in the example.  Ensure that you use `g++` or `gcc` in the right places.
[18:17] <CrocoJet> Executing command "sudo aptitude purge openmovieeditor" will show: The following packages will be REMOVED:
[18:17] <CrocoJet>   libfltk1.1{u} libgavl1{u} libmpeg3-1{u} openmovieeditor{p}. What is the meaning "{u}" ?
[18:18] <pilo> hello
[18:18] <CrocoJet> I think "{p}" is purge, right?
[18:18] <Guest61669> Titan8990...i am unable to take a snapshot because i have insufficient space
[18:18] <dajhorn> henkboom: Do you mean "swap file" or "swap partition"?
[18:18] <henkboom> dajhorn: swap file
[18:18] <Guest61669> Titan8990.....how do i free more RAM without logging in as root?
[18:19] <pilo> hewllo
[18:19] <spencer> hello
[18:19] <space_cadet> wow
[18:19] <pilo> hoal
[18:20] <space_cadet> did you know that ctrl L clears xchat's cache
[18:20] <Titan8990> Guest61669, close applications?
[18:20] <space_cadet> for the selected channel?
[18:20] <dajhorn> henkboom: The hibernation doohickey in Ubuntu, swsusp, is incompatible with swap files.  It must be a swap partition.
[18:20] <Titan8990> Guest61669, enable a swap partition?
[18:20] <henkboom> dajhorn: ah, ok
[18:20] <henkboom> dajhorn: so repartition =)
[18:20] <ThorB> Hey Hey Hey!
[18:21] <thomc> Does the /tmp directory get periodically cleared in ubuntu?
[18:21] <erUSUL> thomc: yep
[18:21] <henkboom> dajhorn: I have / and /home managed in LVM, so I'll need to pull 3GB from one to use for swap, what's the easiest way to handle that repartitioning?
[18:21] <ThorB> hi
[18:21] <Guest61669> Titan8990....WOW....got it....could change the RAM without root
[18:21] <Guest61669> thanks for making me look
[18:21] <dsdeiz> oh mehn, i tried to add a script in /etc/X11/Xsession so that the script is executed everytime x starts
[18:22] <thomc> erUSUL: how often?
[18:22] <dsdeiz> what am i doing wrong? :(
[18:22] <ichat> anyone got some info about ubuntu netbook remix -  on  none netbock hardware
[18:22] <ashmew2> cyborg , i PM'ed you
[18:22] <cyborg> hey hii
[18:22] <ashmew2> check your PM
[18:22] <dajhorn> henkboom: I dunno.  I've only ever used the cli to manipulate LVM things.
[18:22] <ashmew2> <[18:22] <ashmew2> there should be written ashmew2 in red , cyborg
[18:22] <Guest61669> ok...so mz home directorz only has 118mb free....is this physical or virutal?
[18:22] <erUSUL> thomc: each reboot?
[18:23] <thomc> erUSUL: ok, thanks.
[18:23] <Jay> ok hey all!
[18:23] <Titan8990> henkboom, http://www.tldp.org/HOWTO/LVM-HOWTO/reducelv.html
[18:23] <dajhorn> henkboom: I'll wager you an oatmeal cookie that the swap partition must be a real primary partition.
[18:23] <Aleksaa> hiiiiii
[18:23] <Jay> uhm,
[18:23] <dsdeiz> anyone?
[18:23] <Aleksaa> help me pls
[18:23] <cyborg> ashmew2 : how have u been
[18:23] <Aleksaa> i have laptop vr602
[18:23] <Aleksaa> how to install
[18:23] <Aleksaa> grafic card
[18:23] <ashmew2> cyborg : join #offtopic by using /join #offtopic
[18:24] <erUSUL> dajhorn: it can be a logical partition or even a file
[18:24] <Guest2219> aleksaa why do
[18:24] <Guest2219> aleksaa you type
[18:24] <Guest2219> aleksaa like this ?
[18:24] <erUSUL> dajhorn: any linux block device for that matter or a file
[18:24] <dajhorn> erUSUL: Nope. Details here: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SwapFaq
[18:24] <Aleksaa> pls help me how to instal grafic card driver for model VR602-MS
[18:24] <dajhorn> erUSUL: "The hibernation implementation currently used in Ubuntu, swsusp, needs a swap or suspend partition. It cannot use a swap file on an active file system. "
[18:25] <Guest61669> Titan8990.....i have it now...the partition for root is too small.
[18:25] <dsdeiz> hi again dajhorn, i'm still having trouble running programs when x starts :(
[18:25] <Guest61669> how do i expand the home partition
[18:25] <ashmew2> /whois
[18:25] <erUSUL> dajhorn: that's a swapsusp limitation not a swap limitation
[18:25] <Aleksaa> pls help me private message
[18:25] <Titan8990> Guest61669, gparted from the liveCD
[18:25] <SiDi> Hey, does anyone remember the name of that italian constructor selling cheap linux machines ?
[18:25] <dajhorn> erUSUL: The context is making hibernation to swap work correctly.
[18:25] <Guest61669> i was thinking that i had not allocated enough RAM for VM
[18:26] <Guest61669> but the error msg was that my /home/me folder was not enough space to save the snapshot
[18:26] <space_cadet> so what's up with the superkey not being able to be a hotkey for lock screen?
[18:26] <erUSUL> dajhorn: ok; fair enough... we agree it can be any permanent block device (including logical partitions) but not a file. ;P
[18:27] <DexterF> I need a gui for pon/poff for a supern00b - suggestions?
[18:27] <henkboom> thanks Titan8990
[18:27] <Titan8990> henkboom, np
[18:27] <Titan8990> henkboom, what would lvm be without easy resize :)
[18:27] <space_cadet> is there a workaround so i can use superkey + L to lock my screen?
[18:28] <henkboom> fdisk tells me how big my partitions are in cylinders, but to use lvreduce I need blocks =/
[18:28] <henkboom> oh, wait
[18:28] <space_cadet> math?
[18:28] <henkboom> no it gives me blocks as well =p
[18:28] <realsifo> helo
[18:29] <dajhorn> henkboom: If this is your first LVM resize, then you should make a backup.
[18:29] <Guest61669> gparted should work no?
[18:29] <henkboom> dajhorn: true, I have a backup as of two days ago (when I installed ubuntu) but I should probably update it first
[18:29] <slayton> what is the difference between /usr/bin and /usr/sbin
[18:30] <realsifo> i update my ubuntu generic kernel but my usb modem not recognize anymore. how to fix it?
[18:30] <Link--> I've compiled 2.6.30 according to this - http://is.gd/16t0a (using old fashioned Debian way)  but the installation failed and I had to manually configure the kernel, now whenever I apt-get something it keeps apt-get'ting the kernel and fails to install it. How do I fix/remove it ?
[18:30] <dajhorn> slayton:  sbin is for administrative things that the root user would usually run.  Everything else goes into bin.
[18:30] <space_cadet> realsifo, how did you install the required packages for the modem to work in the first place?
[18:31] <slayton> thanks dajhorn
[18:31] <Link--> Anyone ? Please ? :/
[18:31] <dajhorn> slayton: Rather, regular unprivileged users don't need things in sbin.  Np.
[18:31] <space_cadet> realsifo, because you probably need to recompile the kernel modules, i just found out the same thing applies for nvidia drivers, and any other kernel modules
[18:31] <realsifo> i used to edit kernel in boot loader
[18:31] <w0jrl> hello all
[18:31] <BryanC> how do i see what programs i can uninstall only using the command line?
[18:32] <realsifo> usbserial.vendor and usbserial.product
[18:32] <BryanC> i screwed up my sisplay drivers but can still ssh in.
[18:32] <slayton> dajhorn, i'm compiling some software that puts things in /usr/sbin and i'm not sure why
[18:32] <Cookiechef> hi all
[18:32] <dajhorn> BryanC: dpkg --get-selections will give you a list of every installed package.
[18:32] <Cookiechef> how can i run an Application in the console ?
[18:32] <Cookiechef> do i need to type : run firefox ?
[18:32] <space_cadet> BryanC, alternatively, you could prolly use ctrl+alt+F1 on the machine and login
[18:32] <BryanC> dajhorn: thx
[18:33] <Cookiechef> what is the command
[18:33] <space_cadet> BryanC, but it will be text mode only
[18:33] <dakarn> Cookiechef: just thype 'firefox'
[18:33] <odder> is there any way to change a key's character?
[18:33] <space_cadet> BryanC, but that way you can undo what you did (if you made a backup)
[18:33] <Cookiechef> k
[18:33] <dajhorn> slayton: What are you compiling?
[18:33] <slayton> sourceryvsipl
[18:33] <slayton> +=
[18:33] <slayton> ++
[18:34] <lfaraone> How do I simulate a keypress event in X? (I want my computer to send the active window say... "f1" every x seconds)
[18:34] <space_cadet> wow... open firefox and hit f1 three times
[18:34] <realsifo> how to load my usb serial modem?
[18:34] <Link--> I've compiled 2.6.30 according to this - http://is.gd/16t0a (using old fashioned Debian way)  but the installation failed and I had to manually configure the kernel, now whenever I apt-get something it keeps apt-get'ting the kernel and fails to install it. How do I fix/remove it ?
[18:35] <Pici> !pin | Link-- (This may help)
[18:35] <twisted> hey guys i have a problem with my  AR242x 802.11abg i installed madwifi-hal-0.10.5.6.
[18:35] <langerhein> hi all
[18:35] <space_cadet> twisted, what's your kernel?
[18:36] <Link--> ubottu: thanks, looking at it right now
[18:36] <space_cadet> twisted, cuz the latest *should* have the drivers, AFAIK
[18:36] <realsifo> modprobe usbserial doest work in ubuntu kernel 2.6.28.11
[18:36] <twisted> 2.6.24-23-generic
[18:36] <Hib0rg> ed
[18:36] <Hib0rg> ed
[18:36] <Hib0rg> ed
[18:36] <Hib0rg> ed
[18:36] <Hib0rg> ed
[18:36] <FloodBot1> Hib0rg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:36] <BryanC> dajhorn: the list is too long to let me see the beginning of it. is there a way to make it pause after easch page full or  something?
[18:37] <twisted> space_cadet im using 8.04
[18:37] <BryanC> i need to see something that is at the top of it.
[18:37] <space_cadet> twisted, up to 9.04 and it should work     try out the live cd first
[18:37] <FloodBot1> Hib0rg: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:37] <odder> BryanC: try head -n number_of_lines
[18:37] <odder> BryanC: eg. head -n 10
[18:38] <twisted> i tried space cadet but it wont run on my laptop anyway i could use the driver from the latest on 8.04 or fix the problem now?
[18:38] <space_cadet> which is default, so it's redundant  (head -10
[18:38] <BryanC> odder: will do
[18:38] <odder> space_cadet: who-hoo, didn't read the head man page for a while, forgot
[18:38] <twisted> space_cadet i also built the madwifi against my kernel
[18:38] <space_cadet> i had something work hold on   Twisted
[18:39] <twisted> thanks
[18:39] <Mattlee> hi
[18:39] <w0jrl> hi
[18:40] <churl> Titan8990: should i have any screen resolutions automatically in my xorg.conf flie?
[18:40] <picca> anyone here got a bubba server
[18:41] <Link--> ubottu: Either it doesn't seem to work or I don't find the correct kernel packages, any hints ?
[18:41] <Aleksaa> people pls help me i have model vr602-msi
[18:41] <Aleksaa> how
[18:41] <Aleksaa> to instal
[18:41] <Aleksaa> grafic card
[18:41] <FloodBot1> Aleksaa: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[18:41] <Aleksaa> driver
[18:41] <Link--> Pici: Either it doesn't seem to work or I don't find the correct kernel packages, any hints ?
[18:42] <BryanC> okay, i guess i dotn understand how to use the command properly.
[18:42] <BryanC> I just want to see a list of programs that i can uninstall but i need to see it a page at a time.
[18:42] <spike> hi, I have two screens and applications are always opening on the first one
[18:43] <BryanC> im new (like it doesnt show)
[18:43] <spike> how do I set it so they open where the cursor is?
[18:43] <erUSUL> BryanC: use a pager like less
[18:43] <MrKeuner> hi all, where does totem subtitle downloader cache the subtitles?
[18:43] <Pici> Link--: I wonder if removing the linux-image package would help... Its the package that normally depends on the 'latest' kernel image in the repos.
[18:43] <bsl> is there a proc section for temperature?
[18:44] <anachronik_> trolhas
[18:44] <Link--> Pici: I'll try:)
[18:45] <dakarn> aleksaa: what video card does your laptop have?
[18:45] <spike> anybody?
[18:45] <n0gear> www.google.com [testing a script in irssi]
[18:45] <NIK123> I finally (after giving up on a Python problem that prevented a normal upgrade) upgraded from 6.06 LTS (Dapper) to 8.04 LTS (Hardy) using the alternate CD (loop mount of iso, worked fine), but now my second core (Dell Latitude D820 with Core Duo) is not recognised anymore, and during boot the screen is just black until the login field appears, so no clues there. Sound familiar to anyone, or am I or is my laptop doomed to have at least one completely weird
[18:46] <MrKeuner> bsl, /proc/acpi/thermal_zone
[18:46] <bsl> MrKeuner: thanks
[18:46] <Link--> Pici: It didn't find it, but I just got an idea - I'll remove the kernel 'tself (the name). It *seems* to work. We'll see.
[18:46] <Flannel> NIK123: Are you using -386 or -generic?
[18:46] <Crewsr3__> what is the best way to clone a smaller drive to a large drive bit for bit?
[18:46] <dsdeiz> huhu, all i want to do is set a background image when x starts..  i tried creating a file ~/.xsession, ~/.xinitrc.. tried modifying the file /etc/X11/Xsession but still no luck :(
[18:46] <Pici> n0gear: Probably best to test in someplace like ##test, as #ubuntu is already pretty busy
[18:47] <NIK123> Flannel: I tried to have generic, I'll post a list of packages I think are relevant
[18:47] <MrKeuner> bsl, no problem. not sure if that is the only way to see it though
[18:48] <dsdeiz> so anyone could help me out?
[18:48] <dsdeiz> is there like predefined xsessions?
[18:48] <nellmathew> anyone here using gnome-do with jaunty?.. "locate" isn't locating certain files, does this have anything to do with tracker being removed from jaunty?
[18:48] <sushui> my pidgin can't connect yahoo IM...
[18:48] <dsdeiz> sushui: try #pidgin it's in their topic
[18:49] <daevid226> hi
[18:49] <sushui> dsdeiz, ok....thx
[18:49] <Link--> Pici: Wooo! It *worked* ! :D
[18:49] <MellowDude> hi all sup
[18:49] <FloridaGuy> doing the usb startup disk creator....is that copying my system to the usb stick
[18:50] <space_cadet> twisted, allright... here u go   http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/199451/
[18:50] <dsdeiz> is there like some sort of predefined xsessions?
[18:50] <usr13> FloridaGuy: What is your question?
[18:50] <space_cadet> twisted  alternatively   you could use this... http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1112464
[18:51] <churl> i changed my screen resolution, and now totem doesn't work!
[18:51] <dsdeiz> is /usr/share/xsessions/gnome.desktop an xsession file?
[18:51] <MellowDude> i have a sypstem that has 1 gig ram and a nvidia 6150 se nForce 430 chip set will ubuntu work good on it
[18:51] <FloridaGuy> usr13, im doing the usb startup disk creator....i was wondering if that is copying my system to the usb stick
[18:51] <MrKeuner> sushui, I think there is a problem with telepathy yahoo plugins
[18:52] <Crewsr3> what is the best way to clone a smaller drive to a large drive bit for bit?
[18:52] <dsdeiz> anyone?? :(
[18:52] <usr13> FloridaGuy: I don't know the answer, but someone else probably does, (but it was unclear because there was no "?" at the end of your text).
[18:52] <dakarn> mellowdude: yea
[18:53] <pichaya> - -"
[18:53] <misha_> is there documentation for the bt manager in jaunty - i want to do ics over it ?
[18:53] <slayton> Crewsr3, dd
[18:53] <FloridaGuy> usr13, ok...srry
[18:53] <velcroshooz> Crewsr3:  clonezilla is nice i hear
[18:53] <sushui> MrKeuner, ok....
[18:53] <Lartza_away> How do I get fancy ursl for apache in ubuntu and in general?
[18:54] <Lartza_away> *urls
[18:54] <rom1v> hi
[18:54] <NIK123> Flannel: linux-386, linux-686 (tried that, even though it's just an upgrade dummy), not linux (which says "Generic complete Linux kernel") but I do have linux-generic ("Complete Generic Linux kernel", sounds almost the same, doesn't it?), some linux-headers-... for VirtualBox, linux-image-{386,686,generic}, does that tell you anything (I haven't listed everything with linux here, though), should I remove some, or have linux anyway?
[18:54] <rom1v> is there a way to allow drag & drop from digikam (kde) to nautilus (gnome)?
[18:55] <Crewsr3> slaytanic, can I run dd from a live ubuntu cd?
[18:55] <misha_> hi, anyone familiar with bluetooth tethering?
[18:55] <churl> help :) i changed my resolution and now totem doesn't work anymore.  xorg goes up to 65% and higher if i run a game or something with some graphics now too. any ideas?
[18:56] <n0gear> Crewsr3: ultimatebootdisk had couple of tools to copy HDD as well
[18:57] <Flannel> NIK123: Alright, and which kernel are you actully using?  uname -a?
[18:57] <lizard_ibiza> best HDD copier is clonzilla by miles!!!!
[18:57] <velcroshooz> Crewsr3: clonezilla comes in a bootable cd as well
[18:57] <n0gear> Crewsr3: havent tried it yet, but somebody here recommended it and it has loads of other features as well
[18:57] <new2linx> anyone. i really need help understand perl rename. i am trying to rename a bunch of movies that are movie1 cd1.avi movie1 cd2.avi so that they are movie1.1.avi and movie1.2.avi. i have found rename.pl 's/\.orig$//' *.orig but i am not sure how to modify it for what I want.
[18:57] <Guest2219> SIM FREE TOOLS http://bit.ly/TRKVk THANKS TO THE DEV TEAM
[18:57] <lizard_ibiza> right/... anyone know why vanilla firefox on jaunty keeps crashing every few minutes???
[18:57] <n0gear> Crewsr3: ultimatebootcd.com
[18:57] <Guest2219> iPhone 3G official jailbroken and Sim free!
[18:58] <lizard_ibiza> new2linx: try the perl chan
[18:58] <Lartza_away> Flannel what did he do wrong? o.O
[18:58] <Flannel> new2linx: rename applies the regular expression to the files
[18:58] <Lartza_away> Offtopic?
[18:58] <Flannel> Lartza_away: Spam?
[18:58] <spike> so anybody knows about gnome and dual screen?
[18:59] <Lartza_away> Well yea but wasn't that a bit harsh?
[18:59] <dsdeiz> where can i find the so called predefined xsessions found here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[18:59] <churl> spike: i know i tried to do it and it messed my something for me
[18:59] <Lartza_away> Oh I didn't see his first message
[18:59] <Crewsr3> velcroshooz, n0gear thanks, I will check it out
[18:59] <churl> spike: now i cant run totem
[18:59] <lizard_ibiza> firefox keeps crashing on a fresh install.  any ideas??
[18:59] <ragarth> Hello, I have a lexmark x2600 printer installed on ubuntu 8.10 using the inkjet-08-driver-1.0-1 drivers. Openoffice seems to work just fine, but all other applications fail to print. I haven't been able to find much on google about x2600's and linux, and I don't know much about troubleshooting printers and linux. Any advice or suggestions?
[18:59] <new2linx> Flannel, so i won't be able to use perl rename to do what I want?
[19:00] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: Have you done updates on this new install?
[19:00] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: yes
[19:00] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: Is it crashing on a particular URL?
[19:00] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: Is it crashing on a particular type of site?
[19:01] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: no.   randomly drops out
[19:01] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: even if left alone
[19:01] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: Run firefox from terminal window and watch for error messages or warnings when / if it crashes
[19:01] <exabyte> Hallo ich versuch grad WPA zum laufen zu grigen hab bis jetzt mit wpa_supplicant herumprobiert  mein problem ist es das ich keine verbindung aufabuen kann hat irgend jemand eine Idee ??
[19:01] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: just what I'm doing thins minute
[19:02] <hatter243> !de | exabyte
[19:02]  * lizard_ibiza is round a mates house and it isn't his computer!
[19:02] <dsdeiz> where can i find the so called predefined xsessions found here? https://wiki.ubuntu.com/CustomXSession
[19:02] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: interesting... "Segmentation fault"
[19:03] <NIK123> Flannel: uname -a says 2.6.24-24-386, so should I/can I safely uninstall the packages with -386 in them? I guess the boot process doesn't know generic is better, but then I only have a black screen at boot time
[19:03] <usr13> dsdeiz: The xsession program is a session manager.  It is normally executed by your
[19:03] <Flannel> NIK123: first you should choose generic, yeah.  Then you can remove the -386 ones, you'll want to get to the GRUB menu and select generic (escape right after the POST screen will let you see it, *or* you can go edit menu.lst and tell it to stop hiding the menu by default)
[19:04] <usr13> dsdeiz: The xsession program is a session manager.  It is normally executed by your ~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession) script and controls your X Window session.~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession) script and controls your X Window session.~/.xinitrc (or ~/.xsession) script and controls your X Window session.
[19:04] <NIK123> Flannel: I was completing my list, might as well paste it now: linux-{386,686,generic}, linux-headers-2.6.24-24{,-386,-generic}, linux-headers-{386,686,generic}, linux-image-2.6.24-24-{386,generic}, linux-image-{386,686,generic}, linux-libc-dev, linux-restricted-modules-..., linux-sound-base, linux-ubuntu-modules-...
[19:04] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: any ideas?
[19:04] <ubuntu> #ubuntu-de
[19:04] <dsdeiz> usr13: doesn't work, i already tried ~/.xsession and ~/.xinitrc
[19:04] <benc> is it possible to develop iphone apps on ubuntu?
[19:05] <dsdeiz> i simply put in xsetroot -solid midnightblue
[19:05] <F0XDIE> Anyone now anything about setting up a blowfish encrypted hdd?
[19:05] <ragarth> Where can I go to get help resolving a printer issue? Openoffice works fine, all other apps fail.
[19:05] <usr13> dsdeiz: http://ftp.x.org/contrib/applications/xsession-1.1.README
[19:06] <NIK123> Flannel: Thanks, going offline to try the escape thing, will report back
[19:07] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: You might find http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=23433 helpful.
[19:07] <CybeRebel> hello All :) how can i compress .avi files on ubuntu?
[19:07] <usr13> ragarth: You probably just need to set it as default.
[19:07] <slayton> I have a file tree that I'd like to boil down to a text file.. is there anyway to use ls to list only directories and subdirectories?
[19:08] <slayton> but no files
[19:08] <usr13> CybeRebel: gzip bzip zip or....??
[19:08] <ragarth> usr13, I manually select it before printing. How can I set it as default?
[19:08] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: cheers
[19:08] <CybeRebel> sorry i mean for uploading to utube
[19:08] <new2linx> slaytanic, ls -d
[19:08] <usr13> ragarth: http://localhost:631/
[19:09] <new2linx> slaytanic, all i did was man ls. and it was right there in the man pages. isn't that right?
[19:09] <zet_> How i cant use webmoney on ubuntu???
[19:09] <usr13> CybeRebel: Oh, sorry, I don't know about youtube.
[19:09] <Lartza_> HOw can I see enabled apachemods?
[19:09] <Lartza_> I need to know if mod_rewrite is enabled
[19:09] <Goioo> hello
[19:09] <CybeRebel> ok thank you anyway :)
[19:09] <lstarnes> zet_: have you tried to use it?
[19:09] <Tann> Lartza_: I can help you
[19:10] <Lartza_> Tann: I would appreciate that
[19:10] <zet_> i cant use
[19:10] <chetnick> Lartza_: Not expert but that should be in httpd.conf, or apache.conf
[19:10] <zet_> dont work
[19:10] <Goioo> I finally got this ubuntu working, thanks to mezquitale.  8.10 works great.
[19:10] <lstarnes> zet_: what happens when you try to use it?
[19:10] <tannersummers> when I boot up my ubuntu i dont get a splahs screen or a bar loading up, instead tons of text, how can i get my splash back?
[19:10] <zet_> webmoney not have version for ubuntu
[19:11] <Goioo> now I'm trying to master the remote access stuff
[19:11] <lstarnes> zet_: is it browser based, or is it s separate program?
[19:11] <Tann> Lartza_: sudo cp /etc/apache2/mods-available/rewrite.load /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/rewrite.load
[19:11] <zet_> in browser cant login
[19:12] <Lartza_> Tann: NO I want to know is it loaded
[19:12] <lstarnes> zet_: what happens when you try to log in?
[19:12] <zet_> sertifikate eror
[19:12] <CybeRebel> any one know how i can compress .avi files for uploading to utube?
[19:12] <lizard_ibiza> usr13: do you happen to know where mozplugger resides? locate doesn't work as the files have not been indexed yet
[19:12] <CybeRebel> on ubuntu!
[19:13] <tannersummers> when I boot up my ubuntu i dont get a splahs screen or a bar loading up, instead tons of text, how can i get my splash back?
[19:13] <Tann> Lartza_: oh, if rewrite.load is in the /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/ directory, then it is loaded
[19:13] <jean-francais> Hi guys
[19:13] <lstarnes> zet_: what is the certificate error?
[19:13] <vaul> Hello, people, who can advice some scanning software, except xsane?
[19:13] <jean-francais> I have a probleme with 20:09 < jean-francais> le log http://pastebin.com/m225a7cfe
[19:13] <jean-francais> i'm sorry*
[19:13] <jean-francais> I have a problem with Vodafone for Ubuntu
[19:13] <weternal> hey I'm writing a disc image in ubuntu 8.10 and I'm getting a confusing dialog box
[19:13] <zet_> 1 sekond
[19:13] <jean-francais> can someone help me ?
[19:13] <zet_> i show
[19:14] <dsdeiz> hmm, maybe xsession/xinitrc isn't what I wanted.. what i wanted is to execute a program after fluxbox is executed
[19:14] <dsdeiz> any ideas??
[19:14] <dsdeiz> :)
[19:14] <weternal> it's asking me if I want to create from image or create with file, and I want to burn a ubuntu live disc
[19:14] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: Probably $HOME/.mozilla/
[19:14] <dsdeiz> after fluxbox or any other window manager is executed
[19:15] <jean-francais> someone already installed vodadone for key 3G ?
[19:15] <dsdeiz> so anyone? anyone?
[19:15] <dsgross> if i wanted to create a awk command that would look at the file crval1_temp.dat which has an entry of the following nature CRVAL1  = 3.57870000000000E+00 / Iraf zero point, extract only the 3.57.... and output that to file crval1_.dat what would it look like?
[19:15] <churl> i changed my resolution and now totem doesn't work anymore.  xorg goes up to 65% and higher if i run a game or something with some graphics now too. any ideas?
[19:15] <dsgross> right now i have "awk '{print $3}' crval1_temp.dat > crval1.dat" but that doesn't seem to work
[19:16] <Lartza_> Now after rewrite.load is in loaded folder, do I need to configure something for "fancy" or "clean" urls?
[19:16] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: FYI:  updatedb   updates the database used by locate
[19:16] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: FYI: sudo updatedb
[19:16] <maddin> hey, i've created a raid 5 array with mdadm, wanted to know which command lets me check the status of the array, like diskusage, uuid etc...., anyone? Furthermore, i want to use the same array, with two different ubuntu systems, i created it on the first one, how do i mount the same array on the other one?
[19:17] <dsdeiz> any ideas?
[19:17] <usr13> lizard_ibiza: [FYI]:  But you can also use find
[19:17] <dsdeiz> i've been googling for hours already.. and kept on restart x
[19:17] <dsdeiz> restaring*
[19:18] <n0gear> churl: had similar problem. i killed the Xorg in terminal and that helped
[19:19] <BitWraith> does anybody here happen to know how to get a Dell Studio Hybrid to work outside of safe graphics mode?
[19:19] <n2diy> My hard drive is full, where is a good place to start removing files? It's my test box, so I'm not worried about munging it up.
[19:19] <dakarn> n2diy: just -rf *
[19:19] <slayton> n2diy, run Disk Usage analyser  Application-->accessories
[19:19] <jascase901> Is there anyway to view all the startup scripts that run on boot
[19:19] <BitWraith> n2diy: don't do that
[19:19] <BitWraith> lol
[19:19] <slayton> dakarn, stuff like that will get you banned
[19:20] <usr13> jascase901: Sure
[19:20] <n2diy> dakarn: your a prick.
[19:20] <vaul> n2diy: What size is your drive?
[19:20] <dakarn> slayton: wait he said  he wasn't worried about munging it up
[19:20] <n2diy> slayton: thanks.
[19:20] <dakarn> NO :(
[19:20] <Pici> !danger
[19:20] <jascase901> usr13:  how do i doit becuase this startup script keeps changing my boot screen
[19:20] <jascase901> to something obscene :(
[19:20] <slayton> dakarn, still ubuntu has very strict rules, that is one command they don't joke about
[19:20] <Pici> n2diy: apt-get clean    is once place to start
[19:21] <slayton> dakarn, ^ by ubuntu I mean the ubuntu community
[19:21] <n2diy> vaul: 7.1 gig, I don't know how it filled up, this is my mission critical box, and it is only using 4 gig.
[19:21] <dakarn> slayton: technically i didn't write the command , just the parameters. i know bad judgement
[19:21] <Guest21371> some suggestions for an independent applet to monitor the signal straight of my wifi, just monitoring no monitoring
[19:21] <slayton> n2diy, run Disk ussage analyzer, it will tell what is using the disk
[19:21] <n2diy> Pici thanks.
[19:21] <maddin> ﻿hey, i've created a raid 5 array with mdadm, wanted to know which command lets me check the status of the array, like diskusage, uuid etc...., anyone? Furthermore, i want to use the same array, with two different ubuntu systems, i created it on the first one, how do i mount the same array on the other one?
[19:21] <Guest21371> no managing
[19:21] <vaul> n2diy: And 4 Gb is used?
[19:21] <usr13> jascase901: That is interesting....
[19:22] <jascase901> usr13: ya dickish friends of who no how to use linux better than i do
[19:22] <usr13> jascase901: scripts are in /etc/rc1.d /etc/rc.2.d etc. etc.  and there are a  lot of them... we need a way to narrow it down...
[19:23] <al-_-Gir> some knows about opensource software that record from sound card for xp ?
[19:23] <jascase901> usr13: hmm im open to sugestions
[19:23] <al-_-Gir> some knows about opensource software that record from sound card for xp ?
[19:23] <lstarnes> al-_-Gir: for windows-related questions, ask in ##windows
[19:23] <slayton> al-_-Gir, this is an ubuntu support channel not an Open source software channel
[19:23] <n2diy> wow, apt-get clean freed up nearly 1 gig.
[19:24] <Cybertinus> I installed Ubuntu today
[19:24] <Cybertinus> destroyed that install also already
[19:24] <Cybertinus> reinstalling now :p
[19:24] <dsgross> does anyone have any ideas for my question?
[19:25] <Cybertinus> what is your question dsgross?
[19:25] <dsgross> >	if i wanted to create a awk command that would look at the file crval1_temp.dat which has an entry of the following nature CRVAL1 =3.57870000000000E+00 / Iraf zero point, extract only the 3.57.... and output that to file crval1_.dat what would it look like?
[19:25] <dsgross> right now i have "awk '{print $3}' crval1_temp.dat > crval1.dat" but that doesn't seem to work
[19:25] <maddin> I installed a raid 5 array with mdadm, want to use the same array with windows, too, possible?
[19:25] <Pici> dsgross: Thats not exactly on topic for here.  Have you tried asking in #awk or #bash ?
[19:25] <usr13> jascase901: This should shed some light on the subject: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=278396&highlight=grub+splash
[19:26] <dsgross> oh sure, sry
[19:26] <Cybertinus> maddin: sorry, that is not possible
[19:26] <n2diy> vaul, no this box is a 9 gig, with 4 gig in use.
[19:27] <Cybertinus> maddin: mdadm has his own way of writing on the disk how the RAID5 set is defined. Windows doesn't understand that notation
[19:27] <jascase901> usr13: kk thanks
[19:27] <maddin> cybertinus: thanks anyway, means i can stop wasting time on search...
[19:27] <Cybertinus> maddin: heh, yes, you could stop indeed :)
[19:27] <NIK123> Flannel: Now the list is linux-generic, linux-headers-2.6.24-24{,-generic}, linux-headers-generic, linux-image-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-image-generic, linux-libc-dev, linux-restricted-modules-2.6.24-24-generic, linux-restricted-modules-{common,generic}, linux-sound-base, linux-ubuntu-modules-2.6.24-24-generic; reboot worked and both cores active; thanks for telling me when to hit escape to activate generic and allowing me to uninstall the competition! Can
[19:28] <Flannel> NIK123: You got cut off at Can, but glad to hear it worked
[19:28] <NIK123> Flannel: Can you also tell me how I can view the boot imagery and messages again, instead of just a black screen?
[19:28] <usr13> jascase901: Well, that is pretty old.  THings may be different now...
[19:28] <Flannel> NIK123: Hmm, well, I'm not sure why it would've gone away, but
[19:29] <Flannel> !usplash | NIK123
[19:29] <jascase901> usr13:  it did point me in the right direction though, i think the files in the /boot/grup
[19:29] <ironfroggy_> Can anyone give a tip where to look after cronjobs fail to run with nothing seen in syslog about why? its a very simple, no arg command, i dont see how i could even have anything wrong.
[19:29] <jascase901> Its a script that changes the boot image back everytime I restart :(
[19:29] <NIK123> Flannel: Great, I'll look into that. Thanks for your help!
[19:30] <Flannel> ironfroggy_: Is there an empty line at the end of your crontab?
[19:30] <jrib> ironfroggy_: local mail
[19:30] <NativeAngels> what permisons should be used for css files
[19:30] <ironfroggy_> Flannel: no, but i didnt think there was when the jobs did run earlier today
[19:30] <NativeAngels> is it 755
[19:30] <dsdeiz> i think i'll be ending up using ~/.gnomerc
[19:30] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: Is the account locked?  -- If you did a `passwd -l` on the cron user, it won't work.
[19:31] <gabriel> Hi everyone
[19:31] <Flannel> NativeAngels: css, cascading style sheets for HTML/etc?  They need to be readable by the webserver, so they can be served properly (like any other file on the server)
[19:31] <chevdor> hello, is anyone running on a NVIdia RAID 1+0 setup here ? Does it work ? Does it require something special ?
[19:31] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: You should also pastebin the `crontab -l` output to check for typos.
[19:31] <jascase901> Ok i messed with stuff
[19:31] <jascase901> I am gonna restart my comp
[19:31] <JackB21> Hi gabriel
[19:31] <jascase901> and see if it worked
[19:31] <MrKeuner> !zfs
[19:31] <Flannel> ironfroggy_: You need to make sure there's an empty line at the end of it, yes (well, actually there has to be a newline at the end of the cron line)
[19:31] <gabriel> I would like to know which one is better: Ubuntu or Linux Mint, I have Ubuntu 9.04 but I would like to try Linux Mint
[19:31] <hero1900> remoteCTR1 you here??
[19:31] <Flannel> ironfroggy_: So, I suppose it doesn't have to be empty.
[19:32] <jrib> !ot | gabriel
[19:32] <ironfroggy_> Flannel: added one to be sure and im still not seeing it run
[19:32] <MrKeuner> does ZFS have built in incremental backups?
[19:32] <ironfroggy_> * * * * * fc-check-all.sh
[19:33] <ironfroggy_> couldn't be simpler cronline than that
[19:33] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: That doesn't do what you think it does.
[19:33] <gabriel> I would like to know which one is better: Ubuntu or Linux Mint, I have Ubuntu 9.04 but I would like to try Linux Mint
[19:34] <ironfroggy_> dajhorn: oh?
[19:34] <hatter243> !better | gabeodess
[19:34] <hatter243> sorry!
[19:34] <hatter243> gabriel,  that was for you ^^
[19:34] <ironfroggy_> dajhorn: i think it runs my heartbeat script every minute
[19:34] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: That will invoke the job every second, and some crons won't let you do that.
[19:34] <ironfroggy_> yeah thats not right, my mistake
[19:34] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: You probably want something like: */60 * * * * to get once a minute.
[19:35] <gabeodess> hatter243: for what?
[19:35] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: And try to use a lockfile in the script, or somesuch, so that invocations don't run at the same time.
[19:35] <jrib> dajhorn: the finest time measurement used by cron is minutes, isn't it?
[19:35] <ironfroggy_> why does * mean "every second" when its in the minute column?
[19:35] <hatter243> gabeodess, Sorry, I said, I auto corrected to gabeodess instead of gabriel. Please ignore me
[19:35] <jrib> ironfroggy_: it doesn't
[19:35] <gabeodess> oha
[19:35] <gabeodess> oh
[19:35] <gabeodess> haha
[19:35] <gabeodess> ok
[19:36] <ironfroggy_> that doesnt make any sense now that i think about it
[19:36] <FloodBot1> gabeodess: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[19:36] <gabriel> no problem
[19:36] <gabriel> just asking
[19:36] <minderaser> Since upgrading to 9.04, the "master" volume control on the "applet" I have added to my Xfce panel has stopped having any effect on the volume at all -- I have to open the mixer and adjust cd, headphone, pcm respectively (what is pcm anyway?) Any suggestions on how to get the master volume to _be_ the master volume again?
[19:36] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: * * * * * means "always forever with no waiting between".  (Kinda-sorta-mostly.)
[19:36] <dsdeiz> what the, .gnomerc isn't also working
[19:36] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: That's pretty much the definition of a daemon or persistent process.
[19:37] <jrib> dsdeiz: use ~/.xprofile
[19:37] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: Note that the actual heartbeat package has this behavior built-in.
[19:37] <hatter243> dajhorn ironfroggy_ , That's true, you must remember though, the cron daemon only wakes once a minute to check if jobs need to be run. A cronjob with * * * * * will only run once a minute. Never more frequently than that
[19:38] <zohreh> hello, i want send email from command line, i use sendEmail but i have this error
[19:38] <jrib> dsdeiz: but what are you actually trying to accomplish?
[19:38] <zohreh> ERROR => Connection attempt to localhost:25 failed: IO::Socket::INET: connect: Connection ref
[19:38] <gabriel> Will I benefit if I change from ext3 to ext4 in ubuntu 9.04? I Have an AMD Athlon x2 3800+ with 2 GB DDR2 ram
[19:39] <hatter243> zohreh, are you running an email server?
[19:39] <zohreh> how to i fix it?
[19:39] <bren> So are you guys happy with 9.0.4?
[19:39] <bren> I havent used ubuntu since 7 ish
[19:39] <ironfroggy_> * or */60 makes no difference, it still wont run
[19:39] <zohreh> hatter243:no, how can do it?
[19:39] <bren> Will i be pweased?
[19:39] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: Is it just one user?  Did you check whether the account is locked?  Is the crond actually running?
[19:39] <StadtAffe> how do i get into the german chat_
[19:40] <StadtAffe> #?
[19:40] <hatter243> zohreh, install an email server. That error means "I can't connect on port 25 to myself because there's nothing there". You might want to google how to install an email server
[19:40] <hatter243> !de | StadtAffe
[19:40] <DeboX> i have partitioned my hard drive, using sudo gparted. but now i do not have access to it as my normal user account how can i add permitions. via the terminal
[19:40] <Ffunk74> gabriel, yes you will, especially in dealing with big files
[19:40] <usr13> hatter243: He only wants to send email from CLI.
[19:41] <dsdeiz> jrib: hi! that worked!! thanks.. what i wanted to do is: on login, i choose xmonad wm.. i want programs to startup during that session but not on the other sessions like gnome or my fluxbox
[19:41] <jrib> dsdeiz: after scrolling up to see your real question... you want: http://fluxbox-wiki.org/index.php?title=Editing_the_startup_file
[19:41] <ironfroggy_> dajhorn: its root, not locked, crond is running
[19:41] <gabriel> Ok, how can I change from ext3 to ext4 without having to reinstall Ubuntu 9.04?
[19:41] <jrib> dsdeiz: oh, xmonad.  Well I just use ~/.xinitrc to call apps and start xmonad.  I use startx, but you can just have gdm use your xinitrc script for the session too
[19:42] <dsdeiz> may i ask how?
[19:42] <dsdeiz> do i write a custom session?
[19:42] <deany> DeboX, sudo chown -R user /media/mountpoint
[19:42] <tannersummers> guys why swap partition is off, but when i turn it on when i restart my pc its still off. and tryed turning it on via live cd but it was already on...how cna i fix this?
[19:42] <jrib> dsdeiz: what exactly do you mean?  You don't want to use ~/.xinitrc?
[19:42] <deany> DeboX, "user" being your username and mountpoint being where its mounted
[19:43] <Ffunk74> gabriel, http://ext4.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/Ext4_Howto
[19:43] <dsdeiz> jrib: that's what i exactly wanted to do.. but it didn't work when i created that file and just put in xsetroot -solid midnightblue
[19:43] <dsdeiz> :(
[19:43] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: Run this at a prompt:  sudo grep 'CRON.*root' /var/log/syslog
[19:43] <jrib> dsdeiz: did you start xmonad and the last line of ~/.xinitrc?
[19:43] <dajhorn> ironfroggy_: Do you get any obvious errors?  Are the system run-parts being executed correctly?
[19:43] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, is swap being mounted in your /etc/fstab ?
[19:43] <zohreh> hatter243: i must install SMTP ?
[19:43] <gabriel> Thanks, Ffun74
[19:43] <frostburn> anyone here use wingide on 64bit?
[19:43] <michaeldelaney> Hi, I noticed today that several packages (linux-image-generic, restricted-modules, etc.) are held back. Is there somewhere I can go to see what new features (if any) are added in these versions to see if I should risk updating them?
[19:44] <jrib> !anyone | frostburn
[19:44] <gabriel> Thanks, Ffunk74
[19:44] <dsdeiz> oh okay, so i execute commands then execute xmonad?
[19:44] <chetnick> bastidrazor: yes
[19:44] <bastidrazor> FoolsRun, update manger via the GUI will give you a run down
[19:44] <usr13> zohreh: I think you only need to install mailx
[19:44] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, i dont know what that means by buy partition manager has nothign mounted or anything just the label "swap"
[19:44] <SteveK> have an old P IV 1.7 ghz with 512 ram ,,, will ubuntu run well on it?
[19:44] <usr13> zohreh: I think you only need to install mailx
[19:44] <jrib> dsdeiz: yes.  And in gdm, you tell it to use your .xinitrc, you don't tell it to start the xmonad session
[19:44] <minderaser> Since upgrading to 9.04, the "master" volume control on the "applet" I have added to my Xfce panel has stopped having any effect on the volume at all -- I have to open the mixer and adjust cd, headphone, pcm respectively (what is pcm anyway?) Any suggestions on how to get the master volume to _be_ the master volume again?
[19:44] <FoolsRun> bastidrazor: cool, thanks.
[19:45] <zohreh> usr13: sudo apt-get install mailx?
[19:45] <dsdeiz> can't i modify that 'xmonad session' that gdm created?
[19:45] <SteveK> it is for a person who has nover used linux before
[19:45] <chetnick> SteveK: Yes
[19:45] <usr13> zohreh: sudo apt-get install mailx
[19:45] <usr13> zohreh: Yes
[19:45] <frostburn> jrib, anyone here use wingide on 64bit, if so how?
[19:45] <SteveK> use gnome as default?
[19:45] <usr13> zohreh: That should do it.
[19:45] <SteveK> or fluxbox?
[19:45] <Ffunk74> gabriel, more friendly guide: http://maketecheasier.com/how-to-upgrade-from-ext3-to-ext4-without-formatting-the-hard-disk/2009/04/21
[19:45] <minderaser> SteveK: may want to use Xubuntu
[19:46] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, cat /etc/fstab  .. do you see swap anywhere in there?
[19:46] <jrib> frostburn: ask the channel
[19:46] <JorgeJorgesson> How do I get Rythmbox to play a shoutcast stream?
[19:46] <bullgard4> Who can point me please to a 'video choppiness'  file (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/003580.html) in the Internet?
[19:46] <jrib> dsdeiz: well that's a system-wide file and you want to make user-specific customizations.  So that's icky.  I would use ~/.xinitrc or use startupHook in your xmonad.hs
[19:46] <NIK123> Flannel: Nope, boot phase still mostly just black. I've got nvidia-glx-new and nvidia-kernel-common and ﻿xserver-xorg-video-nv (found by searching for nvidia), maybe the first and the last are in conflict? Should I install and try nvidia-xconfig, or remove one of those packages?
[19:46] <SteveK> ok ,,, have plain ubuntu almost DL'd  can I jsut install fluxbox into it?
[19:46] <SteveK> sorry
[19:46] <SteveK> xfce
[19:47] <slayton> SteveK, download xubuntu
[19:47] <SteveK> ok
[19:47] <zohreh> usr13: after install it, hoe send mail from commandline?
[19:47] <gabriel> Thanks again,Ffunk74, that one is better
[19:47] <jrib> dsdeiz: startupHook is problematic because when you restart xmonad, you start your apps again...
[19:47] <bastidrazor> !xfce > slayton
[19:47] <minderaser> SteveK  get Xubuntu - would be your best bet
[19:47] <linuxgeekery> test
[19:47] <SteveK> ok thainks
[19:47] <usr13> zohreh: mail name@domain.com
[19:47] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, yes but I think it ahs the wrong UUID i think, another thread to fix splahs said swap could be off which got me here and did a command but coming out with diff UUID
[19:47] <minderaser> SteveK, good luck!
[19:48] <slayton> bastidrazor, i know what xfce is
[19:48] <SteveK> thanks
[19:48] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, sudo blkid   .. that will give you the correct UUID
[19:48] <scribawf> Is there any advice on Ubuntu 9.04 being installed w/3 partitions Root, Home, Swap?
[19:48] <bastidrazor> slayton, that also tells you how to install it
[19:48] <GuyFromHell> anyone know how to make `date +%c` do 12-hour time? My LANG is already en_US.utf8 and LC_TIME isn't set
[19:48] <slayton> bastidrazor, which I don't need or care about
[19:48] <dsdeiz> ok, i'll do that, kindly give me time ;)
[19:48] <dsdeiz> (use .xinitrc, i.e.)
[19:49] <bastidrazor> slayton, maybe i gave the wrong person the link. nice attitude though ..
[19:49] <linuxgeekery> a
[19:49] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, http://pastebin.com/m1cb89685
[19:50] <FiReSTaRT> gabriel:  here's the link to a tutorial http://www.cyberciti.biz/tips/linux-convert-ext3-to-ext4-file-system.html note: i haven't tested it so i offer no guarantees :P
[19:51] <dsdeiz> jrib: how can i tell it to use xinitrc? :S
[19:51] <jrib> dsdeiz: what are the options presented to you for session at the gdm screen?
[19:51] <gabriel> I think Im going to stay with ext3 better, after all it works fine for me, and changing from ext3 to ext4 seems risky
[19:51] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, change the UUID in fstab to match the output of blkid
[19:52] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, how?
[19:52] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, unmount swap then run sudo mount -a   .. if all works you're done
[19:52] <FiReSTaRT> gabriel:  not a bad idea... i'll stick with ext3 until they iron out ext4.. maybe the next ubuntu upgrade :)
[19:52] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, gksudo gedit /etc/fstab
[19:52] <dsdeiz> there is run xclient script, gnome, failsafe, fluxbox, xmonad..
[19:52] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, i went into partition editor and hit swap off is thta ok?
[19:52] <gabriel> thanks for your help
[19:53] <fis> puto
[19:53] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, verify that it has been unmounted then yes.
[19:53] <tannersummers> bastidrazor how do I do that now? sorry im still learning
[19:53] <gabriel> I have another question: I have a Logitech e2500 webcam but I cant make it work in Ubuntu 9.04, anybody here knows how to do it?
[19:53] <Dr_Willis> !webcam
[19:54] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, sudo swapoff -a .. but i think that looks at fstab for the ID..  partition editor should be fine.
[19:54] <safruhani> i ♥ ubottu
[19:55] <FoolsRun>  /quit
[19:55] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, thanks alot i hope this fixes it let me restrat pc brb man
[19:56] <dsdeiz> jrib: still there? :D
[19:56] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, wait!..
[19:56] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, sudo mount -a will mount it if it worked.. no need to reboot
[19:56] <jrib> dsdeiz: yes, use xclient script
[19:57] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, ya but it turns off when pc shuts off or reboots and i have to turn if off manulyl thats what i need to see
[19:57] <jrib> dsdeiz: you might need to symlink ~/.xsession to ~/.xinitrc
[19:57] <dsdeiz> alrighty then, so this means i don't use the default xmonad session that gdm created?
[19:57] <tannersummers> bastidrazor, everytime i turn pc on, i have to turn it on
[19:57] <gaelfx> is anyone else having troubles connecting to yahoo through pidgin?
[19:57] <frickx> hello
[19:58] <muha> I am thinking of installing  radeonhd does it work whith ATI Mobility Radeon HD 3450
[19:58] <n0gear> .
[19:58] <bytan> gaelfx: i have
[19:59] <frickx> hello??
[20:00] <usr13> frickx: What is your question?
[20:00] <dsdeiz> hell yeah, thanks jrib ;)
[20:00] <jrib> dsdeiz: no problem, enjoy using a sane window manager :)
[20:01] <Cliff`> Hi everyone
[20:01] <muha> &
[20:01] <TannerS> i got it working
[20:01] <TannerS> thanks again bast
[20:02] <TannerS> now iof anyone can tell me why during boot i see aobut 4 seconds of the sdplash screen then the rest of the boot is all text based in stead of my loading bar?
[20:02] <oosiris> hey guys !
[20:02] <bastidrazor> TannerS, if it mounts with mount -a then it will mount on boot
[20:02] <oosiris> some nasty trouble...
[20:02] <oosiris> I was installing some web PHP framework which required me compiling some sources
[20:03] <stuckey> !skype
[20:03] <gaelfx> bytan: you aren't by chance in China or Iran or some other country with "special" internet circumstances, are you?
[20:03] <new2linx> can I use join to combine 2 avi files?
[20:03] <bastidrazor> TannerS, but by all means reboot to verify.
[20:03] <oosiris> now when I boot my ubuntu ... the gnome-panel seems to have gone in a constant loop
[20:03] <staar2> could anyone paste the default Jaunty resporities ?
[20:03] <oosiris> of crash-- launch and again crash... :(
[20:03] <oosiris> what shd I do..?
[20:03] <oosiris> any idea?
[20:03] <anr78> anyone running Ubuntu on a MBP?
[20:03] <bullgard4> Who can point me please to a 'video choppiness'  file (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/003580.html) in the Internet?
[20:03] <TannerS> bastidrazor, alreayd did and it works thanks, now i got only one last problem to fix...
[20:03] <packet-sent> I set up Ubuntu 9.04 using the Alternative CD lvm/encryption so that i have to enter a pass-phrase at boot time, everything worked as expected untill the latest kernel upgrade now when I boot I am not asked for the pass-phrase and obviously the machine will not boot as it cannot find root, anyone know anything about this issue?
[20:03] <bastidrazor> TannerS, nice.. shoot i hope i know the fix.
[20:04] <bytan> gaelfx: i m not. I think the special circumstances are just for msn? am i wrong?
[20:04] <stuckey> How do I install skype on amd64/9.04?
[20:04] <TannerS> bastidrazor, during boot, only shows 4 seconds of the ubuntu splash/loading bar and then turns off and rest of the boot is all text, idk what happen to my splash boot
[20:04] <fun> hi. Does anyone have problems connecting to yahoo through pidgin ?
[20:04] <Dr_Willis> !skype | stuckey
[20:04] <stuckey> Yeah, but it doesn't say anything about 9.04
[20:05] <bullgard4> staar2: Are you content with an almost default?
[20:05] <oosiris> I installed some things from sources and after that gnome-panel is crashing constantly. it launches .. crashed and launches again.. giving me a constant flickering on the desktp. Please tell me what I shd do...
[20:05] <oosiris> ?
[20:05] <n0gear> staar2: deb http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[20:05] <deany> packet-sent, I try not to do kernel upgrades, for reasons like that.  Its pretty pathetic how it breaks so much stuff.  Sorry I cant help
[20:05] <n0gear> deb-src http://fi.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty main restricted
[20:05] <gaelfx> stuckey: installing skype on 9.04 should be the same
[20:05] <gaelfx> !medibuntu | stuckey
[20:05] <bastidrazor> TannerS, i do know that answer but i have to run.. have someone explain how to get splash quiet in your menu.lst .. i'll be gone about 15 minutes.
[20:06] <deany> packet-sent, can you still boot to the old kernel? should be an option for it still
[20:06] <TannerS> bastidrazor, its cool man ill be here all day
[20:06] <gaelfx> it's great for those times when you need a 64-bit package that third-party devs tend to shy away from :D
[20:06] <TannerS> bastidrazor, just help me when u get bacl =]
[20:06] <packet-sent> deany: yup can boot into the old kernel so at least a backup will work
[20:06] <Dr_Willis> stuckey:  i think its in the medibuntu repos for  9.04 also
[20:06] <hrutonit> hi ... there's anyway to change position of ubuntu 9.04 notify bubble from top to bottom ???
[20:07] <Euro> asd
[20:07] <Euro> Tang,
[20:07] <oosiris> I installed some things from sources and after that gnome-panel is crashing constantly. it launches .. crashed and launches again.. giving me a constant flickering on the desktp. Please tell me what I shd do... guys please help
[20:07] <fun> Does anyone know what seems to be the issue of conneting to yahoo using pidgin or any other messenger program? It doesnt connect at all.
[20:07] <scunizi> fun: strange I don't have any issues at all.
[20:08] <oosiris> where can i see the gnome logs to diagnose the crash??
[20:08] <cabrey> fun: #pidgin says that yahoo may be having problems
[20:08] <fun> thank you
[20:08] <packet-sent> I actually expected a flood of people with same problem but I guess not many people use full hard drive encryption
[20:09] <Mike94287> Does anyone know of a packet logger/manipulation tool for Ubuntu? WPE Pro (http://wpepro.net/) is an example of one for Windows only but it doesn't work well under WINE.
[20:09] <n0gear> could do with a VMware image
[20:09] <cabrey> Mike94287: for packet loggers you can use wireshark, not sure about manipulation tho
[20:10] <Mike94287> cabrey: Yeah I know of Wireshark unfortunately it doesn't let me edit the packets and resend them.
[20:10] <chetnick> Mike94287: check out nipper
[20:11] <Ddorda> how do i install ubuntu studio on my regular ubuntu?
[20:11] <Dr_Willis> packet-sent:  theres secure.. then theres paranoid. :)
[20:11] <chetnick> Mike94287:  tamperdata is cool plugin for firefox, but not sure is it that what you want.
[20:11] <Mike94287> chetnick: Okay I'll try both
[20:11] <ircnickiuse> In sound preferences - Default Mixer Tracks - Device is disabled - I want to use alsa and snd_dummy, I have it in /etc/modules and it is lists as available sound card
[20:12] <ircnickiuse> but alsamixer is disabled
[20:12] <ircnickiuse> what is missing? what does it need to do to say 'use this snd_dummy
[20:12] <Ddorda> will the command "apt-get install ubuntustudio-*" will make my ubuntu into ubuntu studio?
[20:13] <harri_> how can i disable a driver when it's causing the system to crash? is there anything I can do from a live environment?
[20:13] <ntemis> hello
[20:13] <ntemis> need some help please
[20:13] <ntemis> i need to recover a flash diak
[20:13] <ntemis> disk
[20:14] <ntemis> says the file system is read only
[20:14] <ntemis> and items on it have a locker icon on them
[20:14] <ntemis> is there any fix?
[20:14] <ntemis> ubuntu 9.04
[20:14] <q0_0p> !compile
[20:14] <Flannel> Ddorda: No, there's some additional packages you need to install (and they refuse to have an easy desktop package for it), let me find a full list.
[20:14] <oosiris> I installed some things from sources and after that gnome-panel is crashing constantly. it launches .. crashed and launches again.. giving me a constant flickering on the desktp. Please tell me what I shd do... guys please help
[20:15] <Tin-man> I have a hopefully easy question, I installed the mad-wifi tools on my eee 900ha for injection support for my alfa, and now my Atheros 5007 isn't showing up. What do i do?
[20:15] <hrutonit> There's anyway to change position of notify bubble from top to bottom ??? (ubuntu 9.04)
[20:15] <bytan> harri_: you may try to use /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist.conf file to disable it
[20:15] <Flannel> Ddorda: Hmm, seems like it is all of the ubuntustudio-* packages, yes.  Well, and then if you want the realtime kernel
[20:15] <l0wk3y> hello
[20:15] <Ddorda> the realtime kernel package is "linux-rt"?
[20:16] <l0wk3y> anyone german?
[20:16] <harri_> bytan, interesting... will look thanks
[20:16] <martin_> helo
[20:16] <oosiris> I installed some things from sources and after that gnome-panel is crashing constantly. it launches .. crashed and launches again.. giving me a constant flickering on the desktp. Please tell me what I shd do... guys please help
[20:17] <oosiris> pls help
[20:17] <bohney> What 'things' did you install.
[20:17] <bohney> ?
[20:17] <dajhorn> oosiris: Purge the gnome packages and reinstall.
[20:17] <frostburn> how does one determine what icon is being used for an application in awn?
[20:17] <AlienDK> You ask the icon
[20:17] <oosiris> apache and some other stuff from sources
[20:17] <frostburn> AlienDK, it wont talk to me
[20:17] <oosiris> is there a log file for gnome?
[20:18] <AlienDK> Damnit
[20:18] <oosiris> where I can see the reason for crash
[20:18] <bohney> oosiris: Try dajhorn's suggestion and get back to us.
[20:18] <l0wk3y> whats better? 8.04 or 9.04?
[20:18] <packet-sent> Dr_Willis: I would assume full drive encryption should be a standard procedure on a laptop, Paranoia or common sense is up for debate
[20:18] <oosiris> that way may be i can diagnose the problem
[20:18] <frostburn> oosiris, /var/log/Xorg.0.log
[20:18] <oosiris> I am a newbie in ubuntu
[20:18] <oosiris> what shd be the command to purge gnome packages?
[20:18] <bullgard4> Who can point me please to a 'video choppiness'  file (https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-uk/2007-March/003580.html) in the Internet?
[20:18] <Steeldevil> hi
[20:18] <oosiris> and which packages shd I purge?
[20:19] <Dr_Willis> packet-sent:  unless the performance loss is too much
[20:19] <oosiris> @dajhorn... which packages should I purge?
[20:20] <Daviey> bullgard4: perhaps email the list and ask, or email the poster directly
[20:20] <bullgard4> oosiris: Thia depends on your exact intention. Usually it is not advisable to purge all GNOME DEB program packages.
[20:20] <dajhorn> oosiris: If you clobbered files in the gnome-panel, then try `apt-get install --reinstall gnome-panel` first.
[20:20] <oosiris> okie
[20:20] <oosiris> let me check
[20:21] <bullgard4> Daviey: hrm
[20:21] <racecar56> yay i fixed a "sudo: /etc/sudoers is owned by uid 1000, should be 0" error EASILY
[20:21] <Ddorda> Flannel, thank you very much
[20:22] <Steeldevil> have a question .. how can I create a limited user which cant, for example, browse the hard drive/open files on it
[20:22] <genii> racecar56: The interesting thing is... how did sudoers get owned by 1000 ?
[20:22] <racecar56> genii, i have no idea
[20:22] <dajhorn> oosiris: Second, try `apt-get remove --purge libgnome2-0`, which will remove most of Gnome.  You'll lose your desktop entirely at that point.
[20:22] <ntemis> anyone able to help me out format a flash disk
[20:23] <racecar56> ntemis, easy
[20:23] <racecar56> ntemis, what file system?
[20:23] <ntemis> not so
[20:23] <ntemis> vfat
[20:23] <dajhorn> oosiris: To put everything back, run `apt-get install ubuntu-desktop`.
[20:23] <racecar56> ntemis, mkfs.vfat /dev/xxx
[20:23] <racecar56> ntemis, make sure you know the /dev/ thing
[20:23] <racecar56> ntemis, do a sudo fdisk -l and that may help
[20:23] <Steeldevil> I have tried just creating a guest kind of account but on that I can still access my hard drives lol
[20:24] <dajhorn> Steeldevil: Can you give an example of what you don't want the guest to see?
[20:24] <ntemis> racecar56: the file system is read only and dont let me foramt
[20:24] <ntemis> format
[20:24] <racecar56> ntemis, hmmm
[20:24] <misha_> jic anyone cares i finally got bluetooth ICS to work with jaunty and verizon moto q9c
[20:24] <aaronorosen> Steeldevil: change the permissions or the ownerships on the dirs.
[20:24] <stuckey> !flash
[20:24] <racecar56> ntemis, maybe get out..... DBAN!
[20:24] <dayo> can i get a link from where i can rsync the complete hardy repo?
[20:24] <l0wk3y> hey i think i have the same problem
[20:24] <stuckey> !flash plugin
[20:25] <racecar56> ntemis, muahahaha
[20:25] <stuckey> !adobe
[20:25] <misha_> (using blueman)
[20:25] <rohan> how are external ntfs drives mounted in ubuntu such that they are read/writeable by users? i want to get similar behaviour in debian.
[20:25] <Tin-man> have you installed/fired-up gparted to see if its locked?
[20:25] <stuckey> How do I install the flash plugin?
[20:25] <Squidy> hey guys.. where do i find a binary package for gd-dev?
[20:25] <racecar56> stuckey, sudo apt-get install flashplugin-installer
[20:25] <dayo> !repo > dayo
[20:25] <Steeldevil> dajhorn, open .txt files and view the whole disc at all, im quite new to ubuntu btw
[20:25] <aaronorosen> robertj: /etc/exports
[20:25] <scunizi> stuckey: sudo apt-get install flashplugin-nonfree
[20:25] <racecar56> ntemis, do you know what dban is?
[20:25] <Xpistos|work> Hey everybody, I could use a little guidence. I want to install Jaunty with seperate /, /home, /boot, and /data partitions. I think I have the sizes down, but I am not sure about which should be primary vs. logical and beginning vs. end. Can someone give me some pointers or and idea of where to look?
[20:25] <martin_> hello
[20:25] <ntemis> no
[20:25] <Steeldevil> not just .txt files I just mean the whole drives :P
[20:25] <dayo> !mirror > dayo
[20:25] <racecar56> ntemis, its a disk blanker
[20:26] <aaronorosen> Xpistos|work: It doesn't mater which are primary and which are logical.
[20:26] <martin_> is there any way to upgrade ubuntu from cd,
[20:26] <stuckey> racecar56: says it's installed...
[20:26] <dajhorn> Steeldevil: Check whether the jailer, jailtool, or makejail packages do what you want.
[20:26] <dayo> hmm
[20:26] <ntemis> sudo apt-get install dban?
[20:26] <racecar56> ntemis, no
[20:26] <racecar56> ntemis, it's a live cd
[20:26] <aaronorosen> Xpistos|work: I would make / and /boot primary though
[20:26] <misha_> ok, now my question - my roomate installed ubuntu twice! (along with vista) - is there a way to reclaim the 2GB he mistakenly lost in the first ubuntu install?
[20:26] <racecar56> ntemis, but BE CAREFUL you dont blank your own hard drive by mistake
[20:26] <Steeldevil> @dajhorn, there is also a windows disc in my pc but the guest account can just browse it :P
[20:26] <aaronorosen> misha_: gparted
[20:26] <scunizi> Xpistos|work: /data??  typically /home is where your data lives unless you have other intentions for /data
[20:26] <aaronorosen> !gparted > misha_
[20:26] <Steeldevil> hard drive, not cd I mean, cd I wouldnt mind
[20:26] <scunizi> martin_: yes with the alternate install cd
[20:27] <dajhorn> Steeldevil: If you put your guest users in a "jail" or "chroot", they won't be able to see anything on the host system.
[20:27] <Xpistos|work> scunizi: I am eventually going to share data between windows and ubuntu, but I am going to format at "/data" partition as NTFS
[20:27] <pozic> Hi, I would like to send an xmessage to the user which is currently using an xsession. How can I do that? I am root and su'ed to that user and tried xmessage 'hi', but I got an error that the display was not valid.
[20:27] <misha_> gparted will allow us to get that small partition and reclaim it into the main ubuntu he installed later?
[20:27] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, no
[20:27] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, don't make it ntfs
[20:27] <Xpistos|work> scunizi: This install however, will be tesiting it all out
[20:27] <scunizi> Xpistos|work: why?  when there are driver that work well with ext3 on windows
[20:27] <aaronorosen> misha_: you will have to use a live cd to do it but yes.
[20:27] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, make it ext2/3 because windows has a ext2/3 driver
[20:28] <Xpistos|work> racecar56:  I am installing as ext4
[20:28] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, ext2fsd pwns them all
[20:28] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, ok, it works for that too
[20:28] <Steeldevil> thanks dajhorn I will look that up
[20:28] <Xpistos|work> Really?
[20:28] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, yes
[20:28] <ntemis> racecar56:dban says is for hhd
[20:28] <misha_> thx - guess ill come back when im infront of that machine!   *blueman rox*
[20:28] <racecar56> ntemis, last time i used it it was able to blank flash disks
[20:28] <Xpistos|work> But I also want to keep my data seperate incase I have to reainstall
[20:28] <racecar56> ntemis, i'm shure it can
[20:28] <ntemis> even write protected?
[20:29] <racecar56> ntemis, welll it blanks the DISK, so yeah
[20:29] <ntemis> perfect
[20:29] <Tin-man> Quick question (maybe), I installed the mad-wifi tools on my eee 900ha for injection support for my alfa, and now my Atheros 5007 isn't showing up. What do i do?
[20:29] <Xpistos|work> racecar56:  My end plan is way crazy
[20:29] <fretegi> hey guys
[20:29] <bastidrazor> TannerS, have you fixed it?
[20:29] <racecar56> ntemis, but if you want to be on the safe side just do "dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx" where xxx is the flash drive
[20:30] <ntemis> another issue is that says
[20:30] <racecar56> ntemis, on your ubuntu install
[20:30] <ntemis> 12 items, totalling 3.9 GB
[20:30] <ntemis> and says free space 15.5 GB
[20:30] <ntemis> then 165mb used
[20:30] <ntemis> 15.5gb free
[20:30] <ntemis> am lost
[20:30] <bastidrazor> TannerS, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst   if not
[20:31] <xxx_> Anyone recommend a good free stable dns service that isnt going to sell out anytime soon?
[20:31] <bastidrazor> xxx_, dyndns.com
[20:31] <yourfreakingmom> openDNS
[20:31] <fretegi> any tips on detecting a scanner?
[20:31] <martin_> are u there scunizi
[20:32] <benc1> is it possible to develop iphone apps on ubuntu?
[20:32] <nutzer> hello
[20:32] <nutzer> wahts going on?
[20:32] <FloodBot1> !netsplit
[20:32] <AlienDK> lol
[20:33] <bastidrazor> fretegi, when you plug it in with the power on you could check dmesg to see if/how it was detected
[20:33] <fretegi> got my printer/scanner detected, its networked and connected through a different machine with xp on it, prints just fine, but cannot seem to get the thing to work as a scanner
[20:33] <xxx_> yourfreakingmom: does that have free a record pointing like dyndns
[20:33] <fretegi> xscan nor open office sees it
[20:33] <nutzer> hallo
[20:33] <xxx_> yourfreakingmom: does that have free a record pointing like dyndns
[20:33] <nutzer> wie geht es denn so
[20:33] <yourfreakingmom> xxx_: I don't know
[20:34] <Xpistos|work> racecar56: I am going to have 3 OSes in my new system. Dell's media direct will boot into windows 7 with a windows part and a data part. The power button will dual boot between Jaunty and Fedora 11 each with their own root and home. The data partion will be the same as the windows and formatted as NTFS.
[20:34] <ntemis> dd: writing to `/dev/16GB': No space left on device
[20:34] <ntemis> 1799897+0 records in
[20:35] <ntemis> 1799896+0 records out
[20:35] <ntemis> 921546752 bytes (922 MB) copied, 3.86611 s, 238 MB/s
[20:35] <ntemis> what comes?
[20:35] <ntemis> racecar56?
[20:35] <racecar56> WOW
[20:35] <racecar56> ntemis, hi
[20:35] <ntemis> hi
[20:36] <fretegi> any ideas?
[20:36] <ntemis> dd failed
[20:36] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, i misunderstanded
[20:36] <tannersummers> ?
[20:36] <racecar56> Xpistos|work, well, you CAN'T install winblows onto ext*, but you can r/w it afterwards
[20:37] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, you get it working?
[20:37] <racecar56> ntemis, are you shure you didn't put /dev/xxxy where y was a number?
[20:37] <Xpistos|work> the Media Direct software will partion it
[20:37] <oosiris> @dajhorn... I hate to say this.. but I am not able to connect to the internet from command line :(
[20:37] <ntemis> mkfs.vfat 3.0.1 (23 Nov 2008)
[20:37] <oosiris> the internet always starts when I login to the system
[20:37] <hubu> I have intel X1300 on my Dell 1525. I followed some guide on the net to enable compiz. Now I have disabled compiz but video playback is unusable.
[20:37] <Xpistos|work> racecar56:  besides, windows has to be installed first this way
[20:37] <oosiris> I tried running NetworkManager as root but nothing happens..
[20:37] <tannersummers> bastidrazor have not restarted pc but so far now, i have like 2 apps for chaging it but everytime i use one the settings dont stick during reboot, i got it to show up for 4 seconds then turns to text...its wierd
[20:37] <dajhorn> oosiris: What kind of Internet connection do you have?
[20:37] <oosiris> wifi
[20:37] <sebsebseb> hi
[20:37] <racecar56> oosiris, to get internet, launch nm-applet
[20:38] <bastidrazor> tannersummers, pastebin your /boot/grub/menu.lst
[20:38] <racecar56> ntemis, NO NOT MKFS!
[20:38] <racecar56> ntemis, yet
[20:38] <dajhorn> oosiris: Bummer.  Plumbing and connecting wifi without nm-applet is difficult.
[20:38] <dajhorn> oosiris: Try to do this through an ethernet connection.
[20:38] <ntemis> SO HOW I REMOVE read only file system?
[20:38] <racecar56> ntemis, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx and NO 1/2/3 whatever at end
[20:38] <oosiris> let me try
[20:38] <racecar56> ntemis, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/xxx and NO 1/2/3 whatever at end
[20:38] <oosiris> that
[20:38] <fretegi> any thoughts?
[20:39] <ntemis> racecar56: dev is 16gb named
[20:39] <ntemis> is not a number
[20:39] <ntemis> is a name
[20:39] <racecar56> ntemis, umm
[20:39] <racecar56> ntemis, /dev/16gb?
[20:39] <ntemis> yeap
[20:39] <racecar56> FloodBot2/3, awwwwww
[20:39] <racecar56> lol
[20:39] <McBrain> who is operator here please?
[20:39] <racecar56> apparently, floodbot1
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> Lots of Ope in here. :)
[20:40] <Dr_Willis> They are in disguise
[20:40] <TannerS> bastidrazor http://pastebin.com/m419a6f29
[20:40] <McBrain> Dr_Willis: ok, thanks.
[20:40] <dajhorn> McBrain: You summon them with a magic incantation.   Ubottu knows how.
[20:41] <racecar56> the !-ops thing (no dash, did that so it wouldn't command it just in case)
[20:41] <ntemis> racecar56: i use sdb
[20:41] <ntemis> now i doing something
[20:41] <McBrain> dajhorn: ok. I'm sorry I can't remember the command
[20:41] <racecar56> ntemis, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/sdb
[20:41] <McBrain> that's why I ask in fact
[20:41] <sebsebseb> McBrain: you can join #ubuntu-ops to talk to them
[20:42] <drog> hey there all, what's the package name to enable mp3...video playback stuff like that ?
[20:42] <McBrain> sebsebseb: perfect, thank you very much. I'll remember next time
[20:42] <dajhorn> drog: "Restricted Extras" from the Add/Remove program.
[20:42] <racecar56> ntemis, that you flash drive right?
[20:42] <hubu> I cannot format my sd card if I put it in the sd card slot of my Dell 1525 (it is not shown in gparted) but when I use a card reader to mount it I can.
[20:42] <sebsebseb> McBrain: I don't see why you would want to though :D
[20:43] <bastidrazor> TannerS, what does xforcevesa do?
[20:43] <racecar56> hubu, only need to know the /dev/xxx
[20:43] <ntemis> racecar56: didnt get what do you mean
[20:43] <McBrain> sebsebseb: :) security issue
[20:43] <TannerS> bastidrazor wat u think
[20:43] <TannerS> idk
[20:43] <racecar56> ntemis, dd if=/dev/zero of=/dev/flashdrive
[20:43] <TannerS> bastidrazor i have no clue breo
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  some 'built in' card readers have less then 'good' support in linux, some can read the cards IF the card is in when the machine boots up.. some cant..  some machines  really get confused with the built in readers if you hibernate/suspend also.
[20:43] <ntemis> sdb worked
[20:43] <aneptun> Hello everybody.Can someone help me with 2 problems about Gyache and Pidgin on Ubuntu?
[20:43] <ntemis> but
[20:43] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  ive had several laptops with 'quirky' built in readers
[20:43] <bastidrazor> TannerS, i'm not sure why it is there. couldn't you do that via xorg.conf? did you add it or have an application that did?
[20:43] <ntemis> am waitting to end
[20:43] <dma> why does my pc runs slower when i enable snow flakes in advance desktop setting
[20:44] <racecar56> ntemis, ok sdb is your flash drive?
[20:44] <hubu> Dr_Willis: racecar56: I do not follow you. Right now my sd card is mounted, readable, writable and inserted through the sd card slot. But gparted doesn't show it even when I refresh. How would I partition it.
[20:44] <ntemis> yes
[20:44] <racecar56> ntemis, kk
[20:44] <TheFuzzball> Is there a way to mount a SIM card in Ubuntu?
[20:44] <TannerS> bastidrazor i have no clue, i had display trouble untill i upodated the hardware and what evers in ther eis what  the system, put themself
[20:44] <racecar56> ntemis, hint: send an USR1 signal to dd to see it's progress
[20:44] <racecar56> ntemis, kill -USR1 $(pidof dd)
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  some macchines the card is a weird device like /dev/mmcd1   (or other odd naming scheme) could be gparted is not sccaning for it. see what 'sudo fdisk -l' shows.
[20:45] <racecar56> ntemis, dont worry it dosen't kill it :3
[20:45] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  also the thing has to be UNmounted befor you willbe able to repartitionit.
[20:45] <bastidrazor> TannerS, well. you have the right options for the splash to be shown. quiet splash .. unsure why it doesn't stay.
[20:45] <cga> hi all, i have problems with my usb keyboard. it's a labtec wireless desktop 1200. the mouse works fine. the keyboard don't. the system recognize both usb devices (at least in dmesg) . i read that to echo -1 in autosuspend and reboot should do the trick but if reboot the value goes back to 2. any idea or other solutions ?? please thanks
[20:45] <racecar56> i have a compaq presario sr1010z (pu166av) and the card reader works VERY niceley
[20:45] <sebsebseb> cga: wireless is a common issue with Ubuntu
[20:46] <sebsebseb> cga: maybe useless, but
[20:46] <racecar56> also a RTS51111 works nice too except it dosen't know that it's a card reader
[20:46] <sebsebseb> !wireless | cga
[20:46] <hubu> Dr_Willis: I know that I will have to unmount it, but first it has to appear in the devices list in gparted, right? I think it appears here dev/mmcblk0p1
[20:46] <TannerS> bastidrazor crap..
[20:46] <Dr_Willis> racecar56:  i find some laptops have them on the usb port and they work good.. :) some that are not 'usb' have issues.. Guess theres too  much variation in the controllers.. and not enough standards ? :)
[20:47] <Lillymon> Doing "sudo apt-get upgrade" is now telling me "The following packages have been kept back: amarok amarok-common linux-generic linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic linux-restricted-modules-generic". What the hell does this mean and how do I install these updates?
[20:47] <cga> sebsebseb: heh i guess that is more for WiFi Internet connection more than kdb
[20:47] <MrKeuner> hi, in jaunty recently gnpme applets started crashing upon log in
[20:47] <TannerS> it does shwo splahs for about 4 seconds but goes to text na ddoes not show on shutdown
[20:47] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, that sounds right
[20:47] <bastidrazor> TannerS,  you're not on the latest kernel. have you done updates lately?
[20:47] <sebsebseb> !keyboard | cga
[20:47] <MrKeuner> ...gnome applets
[20:47] <sebsebseb> cga: that's no good either by the looks of it
[20:47] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, i have a terrible beat up laptop and it's card reader works with ubuntu fine
[20:47] <cga> sebsebseb: he, thanks anyway
[20:47] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  that sounds like the right device to me.. that would be partition1 on that device.. you MIGHT be able to use 'sudo fdisk /dev/mmcblk0' to repartitionit.  the 'p1' at the end is for 'partition 1' on the device .
[20:47] <SandGorgon> i see that some of the windows in ubuntu (like config windows) are semi-transparent... where do I turn this off in simple-ccsm ?
[20:47] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, it's 2 years old and it has paper blocking a fan :<
[20:47] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, it overheats fast
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> racecar56:  :)  its amazing whaat those fans can suck in.
[20:48] <hubu> Dr_Willis: How would I make it appear in gparted/any other GUI partition editor?
[20:48] <TannerS> bastidrazor odd enough i just did one few days ago..unless a new one jsut came out and i mean just...or maybe i edited the file wrong :S how can io be sure which version im running
[20:48] <racecar56> Dr_Willis, just think: how the heck did it get IN the grill
[20:48] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  no idea.. tell gparted the exact device.. or use fdisk. I can set up partitions with fdisk inless time then it takes gparted to startup  :)
[20:49] <Dr_Willis> hubu:  what are you even wanting to do to 'partition' it for?
[20:49] <bastidrazor> TannerS, from that menu.lst you are using .11 when the latest available is .13 .. do sudo update-grub
[20:49] <hubu> Dr_Willis: Trying to run androids app from an ext2 partition.
[20:49] <bastidrazor> TannerS, that will detect if other kernels are installed. but yo ushould do sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade
[20:50] <psie> Hey guys, I installed Ubuntu 9.04 like you install it to a HD on my USB drive. It now fails to start on other PCs than mine due to a grub error! Is there an opportunity to get this working?
[20:50] <TannerS> bastidrazor might be me, i deleted a kernel yesterday since i gave me like 3 kernals to boot maybe i deleted wrong one...
[20:50] <Lillymon> Hello? What do I have half a dozen updates that won't install?
[20:50] <sebsebseb> !external |  psie
[20:50] <psie> sebsebseb: ?
[20:50] <bastidrazor> TannerS, very possible. the best way is to uninstall kernels via synaptic or apt-get
[20:51] <sebsebseb> psie: maybe you can some how, also  there can be issues  booting Ubuntu from an external  hard drive on differnet computers, because of differnet hardware
[20:51] <dakarn2> if i made an x session to call on a startup script that launched my WM. the script is in my ~ dir, if i symlink it to etc/rc2.d should everything load correctly
[20:51] <TannerS> bastidrazor let me d those commands first and lets see what happens
[20:51] <kad_> p
[20:51] <Dr_Willis> dakarn2:  stuff in the /etc/rc##### dirs are for loading at boot time.. befor X even starts.
[20:52] <need_help> hello need help trying to change own of folder in next HDD ,it's FS VFAT give me error : chown: changing ownership of `test': Operation not permitted
[20:52] <need_help>  why!
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> dakarn2:  gnome and kde both have other ways to launch things at startup
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> !startup
[20:52] <RobotCow> @ops
[20:52] <psie> sebsebseb: but it is the same type of laptop same series.... I think it is just because grup is somehow half way installed on the HD and half on the USB...
[20:52] <eNaz> kul..............
[20:52] <dakarn2> dr_willis: we removed gdm all window managers and are trying to load compiz as standalone
[20:52] <Dr_Willis> need_help:  you dont 'chown' files/dirs on a vfat partition. If you need other ownership/permissions you use differnt options when you MOUNT  the vfat filesystem.
[20:53] <drog> it doesn't work :-s i need the specific package to play mp3's on amarok....dunno what's wrong with it :-s
[20:53] <psie> sebsebseb: Is there any way to reinstall GRUB just on the USB? And will that work
[20:53] <bastidrazor> TannerS, i do see something that needs to be changed .. line 85 change 792 to 791 .. after your commands are done let me know
[20:53] <TannerS> bastidrazor there was an update, not for kernal but for somethign else but got error when trying to install
[20:53] <sebsebseb> psie: Grub can be re installed
[20:53] <racecar56> need_help, you see, winblows != linux
[20:53] <riegersn> how can i check which ubuntu version im running from the command line? uname -a doesn't tell me, thought it would
[20:53] <need_help> Dr_Willis,  i add option like exec still didn't what options should i use
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !grub |  psie
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> dakarn2:   make rc.local run 'startx' then i guess? or clarify more to the channel what you are trying to do exactly.
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !release |  riegersn
[20:53] <Dr_Willis> !vfat | need_help
[20:53] <sebsebseb> !version |  riegersn
[20:54] <psie> sebsebseb: thanks
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> need_help:  see the url above.. proper mounting of ntfs/vfat is documented in 100000000's of places  on the internet. :)
[20:54] <psie> ubottu: thx
[20:54] <sebsebseb> psie: good luck
[20:54] <sebsebseb> !thanks |  psie
[20:54] <cga> !autosuspend
[20:54] <psie> sebsebseb: hope so
[20:54] <riegersn> thanks guys
[20:54] <Dr_Willis> need_help:  my fstab line --> /dev/sda1  /media/Storage ntfs-3g defaults,locale=en_US.UTF-8 0 1
[20:54] <cga> !usb
[20:54] <exhaustedchris> I unchecked the option to log in gui so I boot to the shell, how do I get the gui back?
[20:54] <cga> mmm
[20:55] <dakarn2> dr_willis: i made my own session in /etc/X11/sessions/ that calls on /usr/local/bin/startup.sh
[20:55] <Euro> Hey I need a Partition tool
[20:55] <need_help> Dr_Willis,  okie
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> exhaustedchris:  'startx' for a single time.. or restart the gdm service.
[20:55] <sebsebseb> !gparted |  Euro
[20:55] <Euro>  i want to wipe all the data on my HDD and partition it into 3
[20:55] <bastidrazor> Euro, gparted
[20:55] <anto9us> exhaustedchris, sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[20:55] <Dr_Willis> dakarn2:  sessions are used by gdm/xdm  i thought.. if you are not using those 2, then you could make the users .xinitrc call the proper session I guess.
[20:55] <Euro> sebsebseb,  is that user friendly im a total newbie
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Euro: yes very user friendly, it also comes on the Ubuntu CD
[20:56] <Euro> bastidrazor,  does it also format the HDD? sebsebseb  ? ? (GParted)
[20:56] <exhaustedchris> thanks guys :)
[20:56] <sebsebseb> Euro: yep you can delete partitions with it and make new ones
[20:56] <bastidrazor> Euro, when you repartition it will give you a new FS to choose from
[20:57] <MrKeuner> recently gnome applets started crashing upon log in, how can I find the problem?
[20:57] <sebsebseb> !ext3 |  Euro
[20:57] <bastidrazor> TannerS, what was the error you got when trying to update?
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Euro: and Ext4 is the default file system for the next Ubuntu
[20:57] <Euro> bastidrazor, sebsebseb  hey, on nice,  I want to partition my drive into 4
[20:57] <sebsebseb> Euro: and already is for Fedora 11, another Linux distro
[20:58] <sebsebseb> Euro: 4 why?
[20:58] <bastidrazor> Euro, you can do as many as you want.
[20:58] <TannerS> bastidrazor sorry if it looks to hard but here http://pastebin.com/m48b8b3ee
[20:58] <sebsebseb> bastidrazor: well as long as he/she has hard disk space
[20:58] <Euro> sebsebseb,  hey ok so i want to install 3 OS's on my HDD,  Win XP, Win 7, Ubutnu  and have a Parttion for DATA (media/pics/movies)
[20:59] <sebsebseb> Euro: Why Windows?   How much RAM do you have?
[20:59] <BitWraith> does Ubuntu use CPU Frequency scaling of any kind out of the box?
[20:59] <Euro> sebsebseb, bastidrazor  i want to make sure that all 3 OS's can see/ read/write onto my DATA partition
[20:59] <hansa> hello
[20:59] <CShadowRun> BitWraith yes
[20:59] <hansa> how
[20:59] <BitWraith> how do I turn it on, or is it on by default?
[20:59] <dajhorn> BitWraith: There is a gnome applet "CPU Scaling Monitor" that will show you the current speed.
[20:59] <anto9us> MrKeuner, make sure you own all the files in your home directory, I've found that can often be the culprit
[20:59] <Euro> sebsebseb, well in totaly new to Ubutnu, and want to get used to it,  buy the end of the year i wanna be a Ubutnu geek :P
[21:00] <dakarn2> dr_willis: so if i remove the display manager -- everything will be loaded from ~/.xinitrc  ?
[21:00] <CShadowRun> BitWraith i belive it's on by default for laptops but not desktops. I don't know how to switch it on/off
[21:00] <bastidrazor> TannerS, sudo apt-get -f install .. what does this give?
[21:00] <BitWraith> dajhorn: ty
[21:00] <MrKeuner> anto9us, I'll try thanks
[21:00] <hansa> how can I install yahoo messenger?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Euro: well being an only Ubuntu geek is not that impressive, but being a Linux geek that knows a lot that's something,  that means you have to do other distros as well,  and not just Ubuntu
[21:00] <racecar56> hansa, you don't
[21:00] <racecar56> hansa, you use pidgin
[21:00] <Euro> bastidrazor, sebsebseb  question, ext3 can be read/writen from Windoes XP / Win 7 ?
[21:00] <sebsebseb> Euro: if you have enough RAM, you can virtual machine otherstuff, inside Ubuntu
[21:00] <bastidrazor> Euro, not that i know if.
[21:00] <jayaretwo> WINE?
[21:00] <anto9us> hansa, try pidgin, it supports yahoo and just about everything else
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Euro: yes  there's a Ext3 driver for Windows
[21:01] <dakarn2> pidgin and yahoo are in conflict atm
[21:01] <jayaretwo> ext2fs
[21:01] <TannerS> bastidrazor http://pastebin.com/m5cdebea7
[21:01] <racecar56> Euro, ext2fsd
[21:01] <sebsebseb> Euro:  Ubuntu  and other Linux distros, can also read and write to NTFS and Fat32
[21:01] <racecar56> ext2ifs sucks
[21:01] <hansa> its can voice chat in pdgin?
[21:01] <jayaretwo> ext2fsd is the best ATM?
[21:01] <anto9us> hansa, no
[21:02] <racecar56> brb
[21:02] <oSiRiDe-iRc|6003> ciao
[21:02] <oSiRiDe-iRc|6003> !lista
[21:02] <Euro> sebsebseb,  i have 1GB ram,  i dont think a VM would be nice on my system
[21:02] <hansa> so how can I talk to others?
[21:02] <Galbadore> Greetings all
[21:02] <bastidrazor> TannerS, what is taking control that file?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> Euro: 1GB RAM is good for most VM's
[21:02] <fretegi> whats the deal with that conflict, just started
[21:02] <jayaretwo> I can usually run most Windows apps in WINE.
[21:02] <Euro> racecar56, extsfsd  ?? ?
[21:02] <sebsebseb> Euro: only thing with virtual maching Windows is that,  you can't play 3D Windows games in your vm
[21:03] <sebsebseb> Euro: you can probably play some 2D directx ones pretty good though
[21:03] <Euro> sebsebseb,  ok well if i do run a VM i might be using applications that eat RAM such as Adobe Photoshop & Dreamweaver
[21:03] <lektuvas> how to install BitchX onubuntu threw terminal?
[21:03] <anto9us> hansa, ekiga does voip or you can install skype
[21:03] <Galbadore> My VM peg out at 100% cpu on some things and locks up
[21:03] <sebsebseb> Euro: Ideally you should  use  opensource/freesoftware alternatives, and find out  what this kind of software is really about, by  visiting http://www.gnu.org and then going to the philosphey section
[21:03] <Euro> sebsebseb,  n0 problem i only play games on my XBOX
[21:04] <sebsebseb> !freedom |  Euro
[21:04] <TannerS> bastidrazor no clue, but i found out that i do have initrd.img-2.6.28-13-generic so i guess i just edited the menu.lst file wrong i fixed it so mind if i restart?
[21:04] <hansa> its enough 512mb memory for create virtual windows drive?
[21:04] <jayaretwo> open the Synaptic Package Manager and search for WINE
[21:04] <sebsebseb> Euro: apparnatlly Windows 7 will work in a virtual machine on 1GB RAM,  and  Dreamweaver should be fine, and certain versions can  work in Wine same for Photoshop.   Photoshop  would probably be ok in a vm as well
[21:04] <jayaretwo> install that
[21:04] <jayaretwo> my guess
[21:04] <jayaretwo> ah
[21:04] <FloodBot1> jayaretwo: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:05] <sebsebseb> !wine | Euro
[21:05] <bigmb> hey, C programming question. Say we have int a = 4; int b = 34; Is there any way to make printf("%d\n%d\n", a, b); print 04 for a? assume we don't know what a's value is
[21:05] <sebsebseb> !appdb |  Euro
[21:06] <bastidrazor> TannerS, a restart would be good yes. you can uninstall any other kernels via synaptic..  keep atleast 2 .. it is always a good idea. .11 and .13 would be fine
[21:06] <drog> need some help here with amarok :(, i don't know why won't it play mp3 files :-s pls help
[21:06] <Euro> sebsebseb,  hhmm.. well i still wanna split my dirve into 4 parittions, each OS on its on HDD, and a DATA parttion
[21:06] <robertrankinjr> bigmb, #C can probably help you out with any C questions you got
[21:06] <Flannel> bigmb: Yes.  You can specify a width for the field, and also specify it be zero padded instead of space padded.
[21:07] <Steil> I am having issues with my ubuntu 9.04 mythtv-backend box locking up for no reason, it will still respond to pings, but nothing else, local console is also unavailable, only remedy is to reboot, any ideas?
[21:07] <bigmb> Flannel: I did %2d, but it only printed a space. What's the syntax?
[21:07] <exhaustedchris> ok I did startx and am out of the terminal, but when I go to Services to check the Graphical Login Manager to reapply it, the unlock button isn't workable
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Euro: well virtual machines are great :)  pretty sweet being able to  run more  than one OS like that at same time, but  yes you can do what you want to do
[21:07] <drog> can someone help me ?
[21:07] <PastorKarr> the 64-bit iso of uubntu says 'amd64', will this work on 64 bit Intel cpu as well?
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Euro: similar to dualboot, just a bit differnet
[21:07] <mot> question folks
[21:07] <sebsebseb> !dualboot |  Euro
[21:07] <dajhorn> PastorKarr: Yes.
[21:07] <Euro> sebsebseb,  tripple boot :P not dual boot
[21:07] <mot> since 9.04 whenever i type poweroff or reboot, my system shuts down, but doesn't actually poweroff or reboot
[21:07] <PastorKarr> dajhorn: thanks
[21:07] <sebsebseb> Euro: yes as I said similar to the dualboot, just a bit differnet since triple boot
[21:08] <mot> it kills all processes, but just goes to either a pixelated or colorized screen after killing off everything
[21:08] <mot> i'm guessing it's an acpi issue...any ideas?
[21:08] <Flannel> bigmb: %02d, but again, this is offtopic for here. ##C or #ubuntu-offtopic would be better places for these questions
[21:08] <churl> i changed my resolution, and now totem doesn't work.  I believe that it has to do with xorg.conf
[21:08] <MellowDude> hi i installed the nvidia drivers and now my log in screen is big
[21:08] <dajhorn> PastorKarr: The 64-bit Pentium-D and anything afterwards. (Approximately.)
[21:08] <Euro> sebsebseb,  i have been researching it a Bit, and this "grub" thing comes up alot!  is grub the boot selection @ the start up of tha machine?
[21:08] <sebsebseb> Euro: I could  guide you through partitining, but those links should do the trick
[21:09] <churl> yay grub!
[21:09] <bigmb> flannel: sorry, thanks for the help. I'll join up the other channel if I have any more questions. Thanks again
[21:09] <sebsebseb> Euro: yes Grub is the bootloader you will boot the OS's from it
[21:09] <sebsebseb> !grub |  Euro
[21:09] <BryanC> is there a command to change the screen resolution from a terminal window?
[21:09] <Euro> sebsebseb,  so i might have to edit / configure the "grub"  so when i turn on my PC it see's all 3 OS's right?
[21:10] <htrejh> marshviperX: greetings
[21:10] <marshviperX> htrejh: hello
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Euro: no to make things easier for yourself, you have Windows installed first, then you put on Ubuntu, and it should take care of the rest for you
[21:10] <marshviperX> i have a quetion about the ubuntu
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Euro: if you install  Windows after Grub has been put on, Windows will go over it
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Euro: well the part in the Master Boot Record
[21:10] <sebsebseb> Euro: and  then you can re install Grub, but it's not that easy
[21:11] <marshviperX> will I be able to open my drivers for my graphics card and audio? i have the exe files on my disc
[21:11] <Euro> sebsebseb,  ah ok well i guess i dont wann mess with the MBR in this case :P
[21:11] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: no you don't use those Exe's,  Linux has it's own  drivers
[21:11] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: what files do I have to open then?
[21:11] <henkboom> Is there a way to change the default file manager in gnome to thunar?
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Euro: Grub usaully goes on the MBR
[21:11] <sebsebseb> Euro: it's nothing to worry about, just  set up the partitions, have Windows installed first,  and then put Ubuntu on
[21:12] <dajhorn> BryanC: Not easily.  Run `man xrandr` and read the man page.  Note the --mode paragraph..
[21:12] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: are you on Ubuntu now?
[21:12] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: no I am on the windows
[21:12] <TannerS> bast
[21:12] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: have you installed Ubuntu yet?
[21:12] <robertrankinjr> Henkboom: http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/nonautilusplease
[21:12] <Euro> sebsebseb,  ok,  thanx u been a great help :P saved me 1 hour from using google :P
[21:12] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: no I'm afraid it will break my computer because of the motherboard
[21:12] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: will it damage my cpu if the drivers are wrong?
[21:12] <MellowDude> nvm i found out how to fix it
[21:13] <TannerS> bastidrazor
[21:13] <sebsebseb> Euro: yeah ok no problem, and enjoy Ubuntu
[21:13] <Euro> sebsebseb,  are you in here often with the same User name "sebsebseb"  ?? Just incase
[21:13] <exhaustedchris> how do I reapply the graphical login manager to start when I turn on the computer?
[21:13] <henkboom> robertrankinjr: that says it hasn't been updated since gutsy, should it still work?
[21:13] <sebsebseb> Euro: yep pretty often at the moment
[21:13] <bastidrazor> TannerS, sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade .. hoping things work better this time around
[21:13] <exhaustedchris> google hasn't been my friend today :(
[21:13] <colloguy> you know how if you try to drag and drop in GNOME, the source object's window goes to the front and possibly obscures the destination... Does KDE also have this problem?
[21:13] <BryanC> when i do xrandr -s 1024*768 (to be safe) it says cant open display
[21:13] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: what about the motherboard?   specific details
[21:14] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: what's wrong with the motherboard?
[21:14] <Euro> sebsebseb,  ok well thanks! let me get busy, just finished  burning GParted, time to get busy!  thanx, be back in arounf  3 - 4 hours after everythings installed
[21:14] <Dr_Willis> exhaustedchris:  you did a normal install? how dod you disable gdm? its a service you set to launch at boot.
[21:14] <TannerS> bastidrazor ill do them now, but splash screen works again =] idk if it was the kernal edit i did or u telling me to change that 2 to a 1
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Euro: burning Gparted?  I said it was on the Ubuntu Live CD
[21:14] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: nothing now, but I think linux will break it with wrong drivers
[21:14] <henkboom> BryanC: did you try using an 'x' instead of '*'?
[21:14] <robertrankinjr> Henkboom: probably not, lol. I'll look for something else
[21:14] <sebsebseb> Euro: oh yeah good idea to md5sum the CD before burning
[21:14] <sebsebseb> !md5sum | Euro
[21:14] <dajhorn> BryanC: sudo xrandr too
[21:14] <bastidrazor> TannerS, i have to run.. my daughters first birthday party is starting and i'm the Chef. ask the channel for more help if needed.  some good helpers on right now.
[21:14] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: no that's not how a computer works
[21:14] <exhaustedchris> yes I unclicked it to do shell from boot, but I cant reclick the option as the unlock button is grey and wont work
[21:14] <Euro> bastidrazor,  thanks for your help will get busy now!
[21:15] <bastidrazor> Euro, good luck and happy dual/triple booting
[21:15] <TannerS> bastidrazor well have fun man and thanks sudo apt-get upgrade still dotn work but next time ur free ill contact u and we can finsih this, thanska gain take care
[21:15] <BryanC> henkboom: just tried, didnt work
[21:15] <BryanC> same message
[21:15] <sebsebseb> marshviperX:  you can run differnet operating systems on a PC
[21:15] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: the computer uses drivers right? according to wikipedia computers use drivers to interact with the hardware
[21:15] <exhaustedchris> normal install though
[21:15] <BryanC> how about a way to reset the resolution to defaults?
[21:15] <bastidrazor> TannerS, good luck. pastebin your apt-get errors and ask.. someone will know the answer
[21:15] <Euro> sebsebseb, opps  ah well, its a RW cd, so its not wasted,
[21:15] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: you have to install drivers, if the operating system does not already have suppourt for hte hardware, however Ubuntu has suppourt for most PC hardware
[21:16] <Euro> bastidrazor,  sebsebseb  thanks! gonna start now, good bless
[21:16] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: as a result most hardware will just work,  it's only things like graphics cards, where you may need to install a driver for full graphics card suppourt.  and also wireless where you may need to install a driver,  or in this case use a program that gets a Windows driver working for wireless
[21:16] <dajhorn> BryanC: Why are you asking this question?  Did you accidentally break the X11 configuration?  -- You can reset the display configuration most easily from recovery mode.
[21:16] <coldpizza721> hey how can i view all the hard drives in terminal
[21:16] <coldpizza721> fdisk or something???
[21:16] <colloguy> df?
[21:16] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: thank you very much for your help, i have to go now
[21:16] <pumpkinseed> Hello. I am trying to transfer video from my camcorder to my pc. I am running Ubuntu 9.04 64bit and have installed LiVES 1.0.0-pre1. My camcorder connects to my machine via firewire, but LiVES does not seem to be detecting my camcorder via the firewire port. It is telling me "Couldn't get 1394 handle" and "Is ieee1394, driver, and raw1394 loaded?" Can anyone help?
[21:17] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: you can burn an Ubuntu CD
[21:17] <guntbert> coldpizza721: sudo fdisk -l
[21:17] <BryanC> i reset the resolution too high and it made me log out and back in. Once i logged back in the screen is black.
[21:17] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: and  try  your hardware from the live session on it, without installing anything
[21:17] <robertrankinjr> henkboom
[21:17] <BryanC> even when i vnc in.
[21:17] <BryanC> luckily i setup ssh
[21:17] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: yeah i read that but I was afraid running the cd could break my system
[21:17] <henkboom> robertrankinjr: yeah?
[21:17] <TannerS> sebsebseb how big do u think the swap partition should be if i have 4 gb of ram?
[21:17] <robertrankinjr> sorry, was tryign to search for your name to see if you were still in here
[21:17] <Tin-man> I can see my network card through lspci and if I open System>Administration>Hardware drivers it tells me I'm using madwifi
[21:17] <robertrankinjr> henkboom: no clue, sorry. but apparrently in gnome 3 it will be quick and easy
[21:17] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: how much RAM do you have?
[21:18] <henkboom> robertrankinjr: ah, k
[21:18]  * kevin__ eating chinese food while on ubuntu irc
[21:18] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: my brother says I have 512
[21:18] <sebsebseb> TannerS: if your going to attempt  hibernate/sleep I think even with 4GB RAM, your meant to have  8GB SWAP.  double the RAM.   if your not going to bother with that, well you don't really need swap with 4GB RAM
[21:18] <sebsebseb> !swap |  TannerS
[21:18] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: Ubuntu  should run on that
[21:18] <TannerS> ty
[21:18] <sweetchildofmine> hey guys, I've got a bunch of music files in a directory of mine and I'd like to make links to them in another dir, in the format source file=/home/sweetchildofmine/My\ Music/musicfile.mp3 destination link=/playlists/sample/(counter number starting at 25).mp3. Is anyone here skilled enough with bash to make me a simple script to do this?
[21:19] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: ok thanks, I'm going to try it tomorrow. I gotta go now. Thanks for your help!
[21:19] <henkboom> robertrankinjr: actually it looks like that link does work. I'm installing the .desktop files into .local/share/applications instead, though, so it's easier to undo
[21:19] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: there are also  other distributions that are better for older hardware and such,  if you get any problems with Ubuntu, that you can't just solve
[21:19] <geronimo9> i connect with numerous ssh servers. one of them uses keys instead of passwords so i store it at ~/.ssh/id_dsa. everytime i connect to any ssh server i am prompted for the keys password. i used to get a gnome dialog that asked for it but only when i connected to that particular server and it would remember until i logged out of my gnome session. anyone know the trick?
[21:19] <marshviperX> sebsebseb: okay, bye and thanks!
[21:19] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: ok bye
[21:19] <sebsebseb> marshviperX: good luck
[21:19] <devilinops> i can some one help me i need ther termalal comand for cheacking any problems runing for any errors
[21:19] <aneptun> Can someone help me with 2 problems in Gyache and Pidgin ?
[21:20] <robertrankinjr> henkboom: okay, good idea ;) crossing my fingers for ya
[21:20] <dajhorn> sweetchildofmine: Ask in the #bash channel.
[21:20] <Wunderbar> how do I stop nautilus from being a start up app?
[21:20] <Wunderbar> I can see the startup session list but I can't remove or add...
[21:21] <alephant> Hi all
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Wunderbar: do you even know what nautilus is by the way?
[21:21] <Wunderbar> it's the file manager :(
[21:21] <sebsebseb> Wunderbar: I think you want a working nautilus since it's the file manager yep
[21:21] <Wunderbar> I use thunar usually
[21:21] <jrib> Wunderbar: it draws your desktop
[21:21] <Tin-man> no one is a wireless card guru? I'll settle for a wireless noob, as long as you can help
[21:21] <Meniscus> i am running eeebuntu.  i have two internal hard drives, one with the os on it and one that is empty.  i have mounted and formatted the other drive, but my system says i dont have privileges to save to the other drive.  why is that and what can i do about it?
[21:21] <jrib> !wifi > Tin-man
[21:22] <Wunderbar> Im using xfce
[21:22] <alephant> Hey -- is "how do I restore the virtual consoles in Jaunty" a FAQ?
[21:22] <sweetchildofmine> Meniscus, you have to be root or mount the drive with read/write permissions for the user. Try opening a gksudo nautilus and editing the permissions of the root directory of the second drive.
[21:22] <Nophiq> Hi, I can't use my mouse nor my keyboard, how could I do?
[21:22] <Nophiq> when I log in
[21:23] <sysdoc> Anyone have the Line6 driver installed and actually working?
[21:23] <chevdor> hello guys, I am installing ubuntu on a RAID 10 SATA Array and I am a little surprise not to see my array mapper listed in gparted. I can see /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla-0 and /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla-1 but not the /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla I would expect. Does that means I should pick any of the one available (they are mirrored anyway...)
[21:23] <alephant> Is uncommenting the proper *fb driver from /etc/modprobe.d/blacklist-framebuffer.conf enough to restore the virtual consoles?  And which one is it -- the one which corresponds to my X driver?
[21:24] <Meniscus> sweet: thanks for your help.  i have done several tasks that require root, when i do them the system simple prompts me for the root password, why doesnt the same thing happen when i try to edit the priviledges?
[21:25] <chevdor> anyone is using RAID ?
[21:25] <iggy1> hello, i just installed official nvidia drivers and after reboot, my pc freezes.. xorg.0.log shows "(II) NVIDIA(0): Initialized GPU GART." for many times till end of log.. i just can't run X with nvidia driver, please help
[21:25] <guntbert> !anyone | chevdor
[21:26] <chevdor> guntbert: because I DID already ask the initial question !
[21:26] <chevdor> hello guys, I am installing ubuntu on a RAID 10 SATA Array and I am a little surprise not to see my array mapper listed in gparted. I can see /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla-0 and /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla-1 but not the /dev/mapper/nvidia_blabla I would expect. Does that means I should pick any of the one available (they are mirrored anyway...)
[21:26] <guntbert> !details | chevdor
[21:26] <chevdor> guntbert: what detail do u want ?
[21:27]  * bc sighs
[21:27] <guntbert> chevdor: the ones you told jut now :-)
[21:27] <guntbert> *just
[21:27] <chevdor> guntbert: I felt I was pretty much exhaustive :) at least enough for a start :)))
[21:28] <ongolaBoy> hi.how do i install the mysql *info* pages on jaunty ?
[21:28] <henkboom> Is there a way to disable the system beep in gnome? like when I hit backspace in an empty text prompt an stuff. . . it's really loud =(
[21:28] <guntbert> chevdor: now you were, ok but I'm at a loss with your question, sorry
[21:28] <iggy1> henkboom: disconnect your speaker ;)
[21:29] <henkboom> nooooooooooooooooooooooooo
[21:29] <henkboom> =[
[21:29] <henkboom> =p*
[21:29] <NativeAngels> what permissions should png files have ?
[21:29] <dajhorn> henkboom:  setterm -blength 0
[21:29] <dajhorn> henkboom:  Will kill the system beep.
[21:30] <guntbert> NativeAngels: for displaying them just r is enough, else rw
[21:30] <chevdor> guntbert: this is why I asked if ANYONE :))) is using RAID 10 or maybe another RAID, because this is typically the kinda problem people have no idea about until they had the problem themselves.
[21:30] <henkboom> dajhorn: that only affects the current terminal though, doesn't it?
[21:30] <NativeAngels> will 775 do /
[21:30] <NativeAngels> ?
[21:30] <dajhorn> henkboom: System -> Preferences -> Sound Preferences [ ] Play alert sound
[21:30] <henkboom> in gtk I'm still getting this beep =(
[21:30] <MrKeuner> anto9us, for your information there were no files not owned by myself
[21:30] <dajhorn> henkboom: To kill the gnome beep.
[21:31] <dajhorn> henkboom: You can put the setterm command profile and it should be effective for all sessions.
[21:31] <dajhorn> henkboom: * in your profile
[21:31] <henkboom> dajhorn: for all programs or just terminals?
[21:31] <sheepsy> Sorry if this is a generic question. I think that there ought to be a simple answer for this but quick googling didn't turn much up. I'm trying to install kvm with vde on Jaunty. The package suggests vde2, I'm not quite sure how to get this going. Do I have to install from source? Do I have to find another repo that offers this? Or is there some other way to do this? In gentoo I would just tweak the use flag...
[21:31] <bc> henkboom: xset b off
[21:31] <guntbert> NativeAngels: 644 is better (you don't want to execute pictures)
[21:31] <ubuntu_> #ubuntu-de
[21:31] <henkboom> actually, setting it in the gnome sound preferences has done it
[21:32] <henkboom> firefox and regular gtk apps aren't doing it anymore =)
[21:32] <dajhorn> henkboom: For just the gnome terminal,  Edit -> Preferences -> General -> [ ] Terminal bell
[21:32] <dajhorn> henkboom: You can even set the beepiness for each gnome terminal profile.
[21:32] <henkboom> ok, cool
[21:33] <MrKeuner> anto9us, furthermore, there are no unreadable files either
[21:33] <henkboom> dajhorn: I'd already done that in gnome-terminal actually, I was getting the beeps in gtk apps. Disabling it in the gnome sound preferences fixed it though
[21:36] <dominic_> hello im having problems with my sound no working
[21:36] <dominic_> not*
[21:37] <sebsebseb> !sound | dominic_
[21:37] <sebsebseb> dominic_: has it ever worked?  does it work for anything?
[21:38] <dominic_> um yes it has but its not working this time
[21:38] <dominic_> ubottu its selected ;(
[21:38] <sebsebseb> dominic_: oh after the kernel update?
[21:38] <dominic_> i do not know what you mean
[21:39] <sebsebseb> dominic_: there was a kernel update recently, and there was at least someone, who  after using the new kernel  didn't have sound working, but  that wasn't her issue, but it might be yours.  I mean if  all the sound stuff looks ok
[21:39] <sebsebseb> dominic_: open the sound preferences,  anything muted?
[21:39] <dominic_> hum
[21:39] <dominic_> nope
[21:40] <dominic_> everything is on
[21:40] <sebsebseb> dominic_: ok sound isn't really my area,  but since this channel is not that active right now, I thought I would at least attempt to help a bit
[21:41] <sebsebseb> dominic_: open the terminal and run uname -r  which kernel are you running?
[21:41] <kad_> hello i partition my HDD,  then u do mkfs -t ntfs /dev/sda7 , is that right? want to format it with ntfs file system !
[21:41] <sebsebseb> kad_: NTFS why?
[21:41] <dominic_> 2.6.24-16-generic
[21:42] <sebsebseb> dominic_: oh an older kernel, which version are you on?
[21:42] <kad_> sebsebseb, it's my next HDD , i got windows xp and Ubuntu, i want also when i go to xp to check the HDD files
[21:42] <dominic_> um
[21:42] <dominic_> let me see
[21:42] <StaticPhilly> hello chaps, got a quick question, is gnome 'classed' as the primary desktop in ubuntu?
[21:42] <sebsebseb> !version |  dominic_
[21:42] <dominic_> 8.04 LTD
[21:42] <dominic_> LTS
[21:42] <dominic_> *
[21:42] <FloodBot1> dominic_: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[21:42] <sebsebseb> dominic_: yes thought it was 8.04 LTS
[21:43] <dominic_> coolio
[21:43] <dominic_> so what do i do um im knew to ubuntu
[21:43] <sebsebseb> dominic_: that's a bit old really, well yeah it is old,  it just gets security updates for longer than 8.10 and 9.04
[21:43] <kad_> sebsebseb, is what i did right?
[21:43] <dominic_> yea  i kno i got old distro back in like may or something last year i dont know and yea i found it thought i would you know try it
[21:44] <dominic_> so do i need to upgrade it
[21:44] <sebsebseb> kad_: you  could do a Ext3 data partition, and put on a driver in Windows for it
[21:44] <sebsebseb> kad_: Ubuntu  can also read and write to NTFS and Fat32
[21:45] <Amorstus> How would I find out exactly what type of hardware I am using? (Jaunty)
[21:45] <StaticPhilly> hello chaps, got a quick question, is gnome 'classed' as the primary desktop in ubuntu?
[21:45] <kad_> sebsebseb, i was having Fat32 (vfat), it read and write but can't change owner like these permissions, here told me to use ntfs-3g
[21:45] <sebsebseb> dominic_: you can  do an Internet upgrade to 8.10, but  you may end up with ethernet that no longer works, becasue of some bug or whatever it is
[21:45] <bill-e1> anyone smart on the netbook-launcher aka netbook remix launcher?
[21:45] <sebsebseb> dominic_: happended to me, and other people
[21:46] <dominic_> o thats great why would you release a distro that dont work right god
[21:46] <sebsebseb> dominic_: I think it's an issue with the repo maybe, not sure
[21:46] <dominic_> o right
[21:47] <dominic_> so what would you suggest i do
[21:47] <Amorstus> What is the command to find out the exact system specs I have?
[21:47] <sebsebseb> dominic_: also I think it's something that is happening recently  when certain people upgrade 8.04.2 to 8.10,  but I don't know
[21:47] <dominic_> k
[21:47] <l7> hi, does anyone know which package contains the gnome appearance settings panel?  i'm running openbox and i want to get that control panel back
[21:47] <bill-e1> I'm trying to exclude some partitions from being displayed in the right panel but either I'm not putting the exclude list in the right place or it doesnt work
[21:48] <sebsebseb> dominic_: 8.10 is nice,  9.04 is  ok, but it's not quite worth upgrading to really.   9.10 is the next one and released at the end of October
[21:48] <sebsebseb> dominic_: you can't just upgrade 8.04 to  9.04 anyway, because you would have to go through 8.10
[21:48] <sanjay> hello sir,  whenever i click on  update manager... it shows 4 broken packages in my computer..it says  select broken filter to sort out it.. but i don't know how to do it..  can  u pls help me on this matter?
[21:48] <DrMrHorse> dominic: if you want to try out a different version you could always use a live cd to test hardware compatibility
[21:49] <dominic_> ok
[21:49] <dominic_> ?
[21:49] <Xpistos|work> of course. The Dimension 2400 my parents bought and have used only a few times has a bad motherboard, when they finally get DSL.
[21:49] <sebsebseb> dominic_:  if you upgrade to 8.10   and it works, no ethernet issue, your sound issue may also go away, but  there is bound to be a way to fix it in 8.04.2
[21:50] <Dr_Willis> kad_:  if one wants to allow ALL users full permission to a mounted vfat filesystem. you can use the 'umask=0000' option. for example -> /dev/hda3 /mnt/win1 vfat users,owner,rw,umask=000 0 0    (example taken from -> http://linuxtuts.blogspot.com/2008/01/how-to-mount-fat32-or-vfat-partition-in.html )
[21:50] <sebsebseb> dominic_: yeah  that was a good idea, go to pm,  since  this is sort of off topic really
[21:50] <dominic_> yep
[21:50] <sanjay> hello sir,  whenever i click on  update manager... it shows 4 broken packages in my computer..it says  select broken filter to sort out it.. but i don't know how to do it..  can  u pls help me on this matter?
[21:51] <BryanC> how do i get into "safemode" or something similar?
[21:51] <sil3nt|warri0r> apt-get -f install
[21:51] <sil3nt|warri0r> @sanjay
[21:51] <BryanC> i have to reset my video resolution somehow.
[21:51] <usr13> BryanC: Why, what's the matter?
[21:51] <sanjay> yes   sil3nt sir
[21:52] <BryanC> i setmy resolution too high and now my tv screen is all black
[21:52] <Gran_Ger> hi there, I have problems with the nvidia card under jaunty
[21:52] <BryanC> i tried different commands but cant seem to fix it
[21:52] <bill-e1> Netbook launcher question: I'm trying to exclude some partitions from being displayed in the right panel but either I'm not putting the exclude list in the right place or it doesnt work. they say the exclude list goes in the /apps/netbook-launcher dir but there isnt one.  I created it in a couple of places but no go.  any suggestions?
[21:52] <Gran_Ger> nvidia nforce gpi
[21:52] <misha_> hi all - need help with dhclient and rndis0
[21:52] <usr13> BryanC: What's happened?
[21:52] <sil3nt|warri0r> sanjay: apt-get -f install (cmd line)
[21:52] <NewbuntuX> Hello guys, i need help. There is a way to use Ubuntu from CD but with sistem information on USB Drive?
[21:52] <BenFranske> any ideas about how to skip fsck on a booting system, I forgot to -f on shutdown
[21:53] <usr13> BryanC: What is your display adapter?
[21:53] <Amorstus> What is the command to find out the exact system specs I have?
[21:53] <BryanC> ATI
[21:53] <Spike1506> Amorstus, lspci
[21:53] <Amorstus> thanks
[21:53] <NewbuntuX> Its like: Use Pendrive (USB Flash Drive) to store system files
[21:53] <syn-ack> You can also use lshw
[21:53] <usr13> BryanC: Did you install special driver for it?  Or is it still using the default one?
[21:54] <BryanC> usr13:
[21:54] <BryanC> usr13: they were default.
[21:54] <usr13> BryanC: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:55] <usr13> BryanC: sudo rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[21:55] <Mike_lifeguard> What do I need to play .m4p files?
[21:55] <usr13> Mike_lifeguard: I think mplayer or xine will play 'em
[21:56] <sanjay> Sil3nt sir,hello sir.. can u pls tell me how to do it...? when i opened terminal and typed apt-get-f it showing " command  not found"
[21:57] <BryanC> all: <happy> its working!! reboot made a difference. (I thought that was just a windows thing) thanks to everyone that helped.
[21:57] <MrKeuner> recently gnome applets started crashing upon log in, how can I find the problem?
[21:57] <BenFranske> How can I skip fsck on a booting system, I forgot to -f on shutdown
[21:57] <Mike_lifeguard> usr13: just installed mplayer -- can't find the codec
[21:57] <xerox1> hi, i am having some issues with procmail: i moves all mails to the correct folder, but creates a new file for every msg; i would like it to append the msgs to a single file, like mutt does
[21:57] <jrib> BenFranske: if you are using ubuntu it should say "press esc to skip"
[21:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> why i am seeing blocked update for kernel ?
[21:58] <usr13> Mike_lifeguard: Are these itunes files?
[21:58] <BenFranske> jrib: I'm using Ubuntu, there is no prompt, esc doesn't work and neither does ctrl-d or ctrl-c already tried fastboot paramter in grub as well
[21:58] <Mike_lifeguard> yes
[21:58] <sil3nt|warri0r> whts "blocked updates ?
[21:58] <jrib> BenFranske: are you not using usplash?
[21:58] <Mike_lifeguard> usr13: yes
[21:58] <dominic_> does anyone know why my sound dont work
[21:58] <usr13> Mike_lifeguard: Well, I don't know then.
[21:58] <BenFranske> dedicated server without X or splash screen
[21:58] <Mike_lifeguard> ok, thanks anyways
[21:59] <NewbuntuX> Persistent USB Drive. What is this?
[21:59] <dominic_> ubuntu is too buggy for real use
[21:59] <sil3nt|warri0r> there r 4 " blocked update " in updates list, any idea ?
[21:59] <dominic_> they need to sort out linux if they want to become like macosx or WIndows
[21:59] <jrib> BenFranske: well one way would be to touch /fastboot then. If recovery mode skips the check, you can create the file that way
[22:00] <sebsebseb> dominic_: for people to be able to help with sound issues you need to be more specific, which soundcard you have for example
[22:00] <GeekBoi_> dominic: I would say that is a gross overstatement.  I've been using it for "real use" for the last several years.
[22:00] <bastidrazor> !codec | Mike_lifeguard
[22:00] <usr13> dominic_: Did it ever occur to you that "they
[22:00] <GeekBoi_> dominic:  Ever since SuSE 10 pushed me off of SuSE.
[22:00] <usr13> dominic_: Did it ever occur to you that "they" do not want to be like MsWdindows or OSx?
[22:01] <BenFranske> jrib, thanks I'll run down to the server and give it a shot
[22:01] <GeekBoi_> I have had a problem with 9.04 that freezes regularly.  So I booted back into 8.10.
[22:01] <GeekBoi_> Problem solved until 9.04 gets fixed.
[22:02] <usr13> dominic_: YOu have made an erroneous assumption
[22:02] <dominic_> excuse me seb and usr
[22:03] <creek23> hi, how do i access my sisters files on windows from ubuntu over the network?
[22:03] <sil3nt|warri0r> samba
[22:03] <creek23> when I access Network from Places,
[22:03] <rolls> samba
[22:03] <creek23> it says
[22:03] <Mike_lifeguard> bastidrazor: Yes, but there isn't a codec listed for .m4p on that or linked pages
[22:03] <creek23> Unable to mount location
[22:04] <creek23> should samba be installed on hers and mine?
[22:04] <usr13> dominic_: I have a number of Linux PCs and maintain some for others, and have couple of MS Windows PCs and maintain some for others as well and I can tell without a doubt which are more reliable / stable etc...
[22:04] <rolls> yes
[22:04] <creek23> oh.
[22:04] <creek23> I only have it on mine :P
[22:04] <rolls> tht's enough
[22:04] <vlt> creek23: samba doesn't need to be "installed" on her windows pc
[22:04] <doktor> it?
[22:05] <sebsebseb> usr13: yeah he thinks Linux is a bit bad, because his sound don't work
[22:05] <dominic_> ubuntu to is not stable never has been
[22:05] <dominic_> windows is stable
[22:05] <dominic_> macosx is stable
[22:05] <usr13> creek23: Yes, samba is what you need.
[22:05] <doktor> sorry guy, can you take me the link for the italian channel of ubuntu?
[22:05] <rolls> oh yeah windows is stable :)
[22:05] <jrib> dominic_: this channel is for support.  If you have a support question, please ask it.  Otherwise, please take the rants elsewhere
[22:05] <dominic_> jrib help me out
[22:05] <dominic_> i need sound
[22:06] <dominic_> its not working
[22:06] <jrib> dominic_: http://catb.org/esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
[22:06] <creek23> rolls: so what is to be mounted? as Ubuntu prompts?
[22:06] <doktor> jrib can you give me the link of thhe italian channel of ubuntu
[22:06] <vlt> creek23: But she has to "share" a folder (and maybe tell her firewall to accept incoming smb connections)
[22:06] <jrib> !it | doktor
[22:06] <doktor> thank's
[22:07] <dominic_> suck dick
[22:07] <creek23> clt: yes, ive turned off her firewall.
[22:07] <creek23> and shared her file.
[22:07] <creek23> err folder
[22:07] <jrib> mode #ubuntu +b *!*@host81-155-197-235.range81-155.btcentralplus.com
[22:07] <usr13> dominic_: I will agree that the osx is stable, but problem is that it is limited in comparison to Linux. It only works on a limited supply of hardware and is limited to a smaller range of applications.  Linux is like osx on steroids and we have many more applications.
[22:08] <sebsebseb> usr13: he is gone now
[22:08] <jrib> no point in feeding trolls anyway
[22:08] <usr13> sebsebseb: good, he is an idiot.
[22:08] <sebsebseb> usr13: yeah, and you didn't even see the stuff he pm'd me etc
[22:08] <usr13> jrib: I agree, he surely was a troll.
[22:09] <ircnickiuse> In sound preferences - Default Mixer Tracks - Device is disabled - I want to use alsa and snd_dummy, I have it in /etc/modules and it is lists as available sound card << sage
[22:09] <GeekBoi_> creek23:  You should be able to use apps like smb4k to mount her shared folder.  You would generally need to setup a user account on her computer or use her account.
[22:09] <usr13> sebsebseb: It was OT anyway, so shouldn't have even discussed the issue with him.
[22:10] <ruif13> hi
[22:10] <creek23> GeekBoi_: thanks. will try that.
[22:10] <sebsebseb> usr13: well his sound issue wasn't, but his attitude  wasn't good,  for when people tried to help
[22:10] <ruif13> i have a problem when i try to settings my display when i try too save the configs of x appears that can't write backup file
[22:11] <ruif13> i use root
[22:11] <ruif13> and my settings saved but when i reboot appears the old settings
[22:11] <lesshaste> for some reason I get ALSA lib pcm_bluetooth.c:1569:(audioservice_expect) BT_GET_CAPABILITIES failed : Input/output error(5)
[22:11] <ruif13> anyone can help?
[22:11] <GeekBoi_> creek23:  you can also use the normal mount commands from a terminal with the samba-client packages.
[22:11] <lesshaste> when trying to use skype in ubuntu jaunty
[22:11] <lesshaste> anyone know anything about this?
[22:11] <usr13> sebsebseb: If he was so pleased with the other OS's and thinks ours is so bad, he needs to go back to where he came from. :)
[22:13] <usr13> ruif13: What display adapter do you have?
[22:13] <buch> Anyone who have a great knowledge of sound card drivers - my case is i had onboard sound card when i installed ubuntu. Now i changed to a old regular pci sound card, and disabled the onboard via bios. Sound is working but it seems the onboard is taking over in flash situations (youtube ect ect) ?
[22:13] <ruif13> gforce 6300
[22:13] <ruif13> i think
[22:14] <ruif13> usr13: when  i define a the new settings it's ok
[22:14] <ruif13> usr13: but when i reboot appears the old settings
[22:16] <facon12> register
[22:16] <usr13> ruif13: Try using the command:  sudo nvidia-settings
[22:16] <n0gear> offtopic, but whats the point of makin g tutorial vids to youtube when you cant see *uck all cause the resolution is so low !!!
[22:16] <ruif13> usr13: i made sudo-settings
[22:16] <ruif13> yap
[22:16] <biella> wn
[22:16] <ruif13> :)
[22:16] <frostburn> or just alias nvidia-settings to sudo nvidia-settings
[22:16] <usr13> ruif13: sudo nvidia-settings
[22:17] <ruif13> usr13: yap when i reboot appears the old one
[22:17] <usr13> ruif13: frostburn may have help for you.
[22:18] <usr13> frostburn: Maybe he could do:  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo nvidia-settings   ?
[22:19] <usr13> ruif13: Have you created a new user account on this machine?  And if so, are you using this new account as we speak?
[22:19] <bill-e1> Netbook launcher question: I'm trying to exclude some partitions from being displayed in the right panel but either I'm not putting the exclude list in the right place or it doesnt work. they say the exclude list goes in the /apps/netbook-launcher dir but there isnt one.  I created it in a couple of places but no go.  any suggestions?
[22:20] <ruif13> no only have one user
[22:20] <Cry__Baby> when Ubuntu freezes, what can I do?
[22:21] <YeTr2> http://img7.imageshack.us/img7/1857/screenshotubuntustartpa.png <- anyone have any suggestions on how to fix this?
[22:21] <usr13> Cry__Baby: Test your memory.
[22:21] <enduser000> hello I'm having troubles using my second screen that I have set on "separate X screen" in the nvidia-settings manger.  does anyone know why I can't get the mouse over there?
[22:21] <usr13> Cry__Baby: memtest
[22:22] <Cry__Baby> usr13: why?  Ubuntu only freezes when I try to move bookmarks in firefox
[22:22] <YeTr2> firefox seems to be breaking alot lately.
[22:22] <usr13> Cry__Baby: Is the whole system locking up?  Or is it firefox that freezes?
[22:22] <ruif13> I MADE that and my xorg.conf desapears frostburn: Maybe he could do:  rm /etc/X11/xorg.conf ; sudo nvidia-settings   ?
[22:22] <ruif13> when i try to save appears failed
[22:23] <frostburn> ruif13, weird, i'd back it up and restore manually
[22:23] <YeTr2> enduser000: maybe your orientation of the monitors is wrong, try going through the edges of the other screens
[22:23] <forceflow> !english | gfmniky_
[22:24] <thomc> Is it possible to change the default working directory in the terminal?
[22:24] <ruif13> Failed to parse existing X config file '/etc/X11/xorg.conf'
[22:24] <AlienDK> NO U!
[22:24] <riegersn> iv installed ubuntu cli on my desktop, i use to just be able to install nvidia-glx and it would install whatever i needed, now im asked to install the exact driver... how do i know what to choose ?
[22:24] <enduser000> no, going through the corners doesn't even work.  I have it set on separate X screen so the external monitor has its own set of panels
[22:24] <kad_> Dr_Willis,  i did the same u told me with vfat, still i can't read/write i put options same : users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0
[22:25] <usr13> thomc: What do you mean "default working directory"?
[22:26] <usr13> thomc: You mean your $HOME/ directory?
[22:26] <thomc> usr13: when I open up a terminal I'd like the current directory to be /home/Desktop instead of /home
[22:26] <centaur5> Can you take some configurations out of a kickstart file and put them in a file that uses the d-i (debian-installer) commands to preseed an installation?
[22:26] <usr13> thomc: Why?
[22:26] <str8lazy> the website says to contact 'us' if we want to inquire about a different flavor of desktop environment for installation; I was thinking XBMC
[22:27] <thomc> usr13: for convenience; most of the files I work with are on the desktop.
[22:27] <Cry__Baby> usr13: the whole ubuntu freezes up whenever I move a firefox bookmark.. Any ideas why?
[22:27] <usr13> thomc: I suppose you can create a launcher that will open a terminal to Desktop/
[22:28] <thomc> usr13: ok, thanks.
[22:28] <enduser000> I'm having troubles using my second screen that I have set on "separate X screen" in the nvidia-settings manger.  does anyone know why I can't get the mouse over there?
[22:28] <riegersn> iv installed ubuntu cli on my desktop, i use to just be able to install nvidia-glx and it would install whatever i needed, now im asked to install the exact driver... how do i know what to choose ? can anyone help me out with this?
[22:28] <dekushrub> Does anyone know how I can replace Firefox 3 with Firefox 3.5 RC2 on my computer?
[22:28] <ircnickiuse> Hey people - I am trying to setup snd-dummy alsa, 9.04 - does anyone have some suggestions? right now I am getting no sound card detected - I have had this working, so discount all ideas that could mean I've never had it working. dummy shows up in sound pref, but not for default mixer = what can I check????
[22:29] <kad_> i did  with vfat parition using options on mount, still i can't read/write i put options  : users,owner,ro,umask=000 0 0  why! thx
[22:29] <usr13> Cry__Baby: Sorry, I've never experienced such a problem, I have no idea what could cause such an anomaly
[22:29] <oosiris> @dajhorn... reinstalling gnome-panel does didnt work :(
[22:29] <oosiris> can u tell me where I can see the gnome logs
[22:29] <Cry__Baby> ok
[22:29] <oosiris> gnome application logs.. because it doesnt come in Xorg.0.log filw
[22:30] <ircnickiuse> 100 internet points and a free DVD home showing of 'Up' to anyone who can help.
[22:30] <dajhorn> oosiris: You've pooched the system by overwriting a critical package with local software.  I don't have any more advice.
[22:30] <ircnickiuse> last time this happened, one command fixed it, it may have been permissions, but bollocks if I can remember
[22:30] <oosiris> :(
[22:30] <swivels> thomc: you can also alter the bash bwehavior by modifying your bashrc file.  just google bashrc and there is a ton of stuff you can do to
[22:30] <dajhorn> oosiris: Well, maybe one more.  Remove ~/.gnome* ...
[22:30] <oosiris> whats the best of reinstall without loosing my session?
[22:30] <oosiris> oki
[22:30] <dajhorn> oosiris: But you'll lose most settings.
[22:31] <thomc> swivels: ok, thanks.
[22:31] <|newbie|> hello. Who can tell me if someone can chose a town in Paris, France in gweather-applet? I can choose only "Paris" : there is no subcategory for instance: Orly, Roissy charles de Gaulle, Le Bourget.
[22:32] <ortsvorsteher> is there any hardware support channel for fujitsu siemens laptop? i want to clean the cpu cooler and dont know how to part the laptop
[22:32] <thomc> ortsvorsteher: try #hardware
[22:32] <enduser000> I'm having troubles using my second screen that I have set on "separate X screen" in the nvidia-settings manger.  does anyone know why I can't get the mouse over there?
[22:32] <ortsvorsteher> thx thomc
[22:33] <dajhorn> oosiris: I'll commit heresy and suggest that you backup your home folder and reinstall.  You'll probably spend less time doing a reinstall than troubleshooting a hosed system.
[22:33] <oosiris> @dajhorn that also didnt help..
[22:33] <oosiris> oki..
[22:33] <oosiris> thanks for the help thoug.
[22:33] <oosiris> though*
[22:33] <dajhorn> oosiris: (Sorry.)
[22:33] <oosiris> I will try limiting my changes to vm machines next time on,,,
[22:34] <dajhorn> oosiris: Never, ever, overwrite system packages with anything you got from `make install`.   :P
[22:34] <VCoolio> thomc: just tried... adding 'cd Desktop' at the end of ~/.bashrc works
[22:34] <|newbie|> .
[22:34] <oosiris> then how shd I install custom packages>
[22:34] <oosiris> ?
[22:35] <oosiris> as in if I require a application X which is available as source dode
[22:35] <oosiris> code*
[22:35] <dajhorn> oosiris: The best way is to build a deb file and install that.
[22:35] <dajhorn> oosiris: Explore the `apt-get source --build foopackage` command.
[22:35] <Titan8990> oosiris, with dpkg-buildpackage
[22:35] <dekushrub> I want to use Firefox 3.5 in ubuntu but when I uninstall Firefox 3 links no longer work. Is there a way to change the default from Firefox 3 to Firefox 3.5
[22:35] <thomc> |newbie|: if the location is not in the list then I don't think it is available, no.
[22:36] <oosiris> can I somehow  sanbox and create a local lib dir..
[22:36] <oosiris> that I temporarily use for installations
[22:36] <Titan8990> dajhorn, i believe that downloads the available sources from the repos
[22:36] <dajhorn> oosiris: You can quite often get more recent packages from the unstable repository.
[22:36] <oosiris> and then cleanly remove once I am done..
[22:36] <Titan8990> dajhorn, dpkg-buildpackage for when you have your own source
[22:36] <|newbie|> thomc: Yes it is!!! that the problem :)
[22:36] <oosiris> these are packages not available in repo.
[22:36] <oosiris> I was actually trying to install the Pringo social networking platform
[22:37] <oosiris> and it requires a whole lot of compilation shit...
[22:37] <dajhorn> oosiris:   Hmmm.  There is a front-end on apt that let's you do make && make install in a safe way.
[22:37] <oosiris> from source
[22:37] <Klunk> Hi guys, can someone help me with a jaunty problem. I have just plugged in a usb disk and lsusb shows it on bus0 chanel 6, but I do not have a /dev/sb??? device for it. sudo blkid does not list it either
[22:37] <oosiris> okie
[22:37] <oosiris> let me explore that.
[22:37] <dajhorn> oosiris: I don't remember the package name.
[22:37] <thomc> VCoolio: so it does. Thank you.
[22:37] <dajhorn> oosiris: auto-apt?  Perhaps somebody here can suggest the right name.
[22:37] <|newbie|> thomc: Look in locations.xml: there is LFPO, LFPG, LFPB (the data used for "Paris")
[22:37] <VCoolio> dekushrub: in system > prefs > preferred applications you can change default browser (to firefox-3.5 I think you need); also in firefox prefs you can check if it is default browser and set as such
[22:38] <oosiris> so all in all u r saying that on ubuntu I shd desist from compiling sources and doing make installs.
[22:38] <dajhorn> oosiris: Yes.  Never mess with the packaging system.
[22:39] <JayX> whats the difference from a primary partition ad a extented?
[22:39] <dajhorn> JayX: Extended partitions are actually inside a primary partition.
[22:40] <dajhorn> JayX: Due to quirks of history, PC-style computers can only have a maximum of four primary partitions, which are real partitions.
[22:40] <colloguy> wait aren't logical partitions inside an extended?
[22:41] <JayX> dajhorn so if i am partitioning my drive to install win xp along with ubuntu i should make 1 primary partition (the whole drive) and then devide the primary into extented?
[22:41] <dajhorn> JayX: You'll get goofy drive letters if you put Microsoft Windows in an extended partition.
[22:42] <JayX> dajhoorn so make 2 primary partitions
[22:42] <|newbie|> thomc: In fact: All the (big) cities which have more than one airport (ex: London, Paris, NewYork....) had choices (equals to there number of airport) in Ubuntu 8.10. Now, I can see only one; the triangle for multiple choice has disappeared in 9.04. Can you confirm it on your system?
[22:42] <dajhorn> JayX: Most modern partitioning tools will hide the primary/extended complexity from you.
[22:42] <JayX> dajhorn so make 2 primary partitions , im in Gparted @ the momemnt
[22:42] <enduser000> hey, I have two monitors set up with nvidia-settings (separate X screen) and when I use "enable xinerama" I can't use the compiz engine and I can't get to the other screen.  when I don't have it enabled I still can't get to the other monitor
[22:42] <oosiris> @dajhorn - Auto apt helps in installing missing dependencies
[22:42] <enduser000> does anyone know how this would work?
[22:43] <dajhorn> oosiris: There is a tool that does exactly what you need, I just never use it, so I can't remember the name.
[22:43] <Klunk> Hi guys, can someone help me with a jaunty problem. I have just plugged in a usb disk and lsusb shows it on bus 1 channel 6, but I do not have a /dev/sb??? device for it. sudo blkid does not list it either. How can I mount this disk?
[22:43] <dajhorn> JayX: Yes, you can do it that way.
[22:43] <dajhorn> JayX: If you've got a clean disk, then I recommend that you install XP first, Ubuntu second, and let the installers partition for you.
[22:43] <thomc> |newbie|: yes, I am running 8.10 and I have a choice for Paris. Unfortunately I'm not a position to confirm if that's the case in 9.04.
[22:44] <|newbie|> thomc: thank you
[22:44] <erik__> what program is most similar to note pad in windows
[22:44] <enduser000> erik__: gedit
[22:44] <thomc> erik__: try leafpad
[22:44] <colloguy> gedit
[22:44] <JayX> dajhorn ok last question, i;d rather partition it into 3  2 for the OS's and one for Data (to share between ubu and XP) what file system do i neeed
[22:44] <FiReSTaRT> erik__:  gedit
[22:44] <noppix> i want to know where i can find a nickserv
[22:45] <erik__> is that in add remove
[22:45] <erik__> or do i have to search for it
[22:45] <dajhorn> JayX: FAT32 is perfectly supported by both operating systems.
[22:45] <thomc> erik__: gedit is installed already.
[22:45] <usr13> erik__: "add remove"?
[22:45] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: installed already.. either alt+f2 and type gedit /path/to/filen.ame
[22:46] <usr13> erik__: gedit is an application, you run it / use it.  It is a simple text editor.
[22:46] <erik__> i on xubuntu
[22:46] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: or applications accessories text editor
[22:46] <usr13> erik__: kedit
[22:46] <JayX> dajhorn ok thanks! I will make the third partition FAT32 (the data partition, so i can share files between them booth)
[22:46] <usr13> erik__: There are also command line edotors like joe or nano or vim
[22:46] <Cybert1nus> hi
[22:46] <usr13> erik__: I use vim
[22:47] <dminus> lol
[22:47] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: command line editors would take a while to get used to.. more useful if you're a hardcore programmer.. for casual text editing, stick with gedit :)
[22:47] <erik__> i see mouse pad
[22:47] <erik__> no
[22:48] <Cybertinus> I just installed Ubuntu. Now I've configured it in such a way that /boot has its own partition. And I mount that read-only. After the basic installation there was a kernel upgrade. I tried to apply that upgrade with /boot still mounted read-only, so it failed. But when is that upgrade tried again?
[22:49] <dminus> Cybertinus: sudo mount /boot -o remount,rw
[22:49] <dminus> then rerun the upgrade manager
[22:49] <thomc> erik__: mousepad is the default text editor in xubuntu; it should be similar to notepad in Windows.
[22:49] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: i'd try this.. can't guarantee that it'll work but no harm in trying.. remount it so you can read and write and run the update manager
[22:49] <guntbert> Cybertinus: system/administration/updatemanager
[22:49] <erik__> i meant word pad
[22:49] <erik__> rich text
[22:50] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: stick with openoffice then
[22:50] <erik__> abi word is there
[22:50] <Cybertinus> dminus, FiReSTaRT, guntbert: ok, thnx. Gonna try :)
[22:50] <usr13> erik__: OpenOffice is very good.  Use it.
[22:50] <erik__> see abi word wont let me paste
[22:51] <new2linx> my mythfrontend is returning "XvMCWrapper: Could not load hardware specific XvMC library "#libXvMC.so.1". in the log. i am using a Nvidia 6200 with the NVIDIA UNIX x86 Kernel Module  169.12. I have grainy playback and recordings thru s-video into my PVR-350 where it wasn't grainy before I upgraded to Hardy
[22:51] <usr13> erik__: But you caould install koffice   sudo apt-get install koffice
[22:51] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: or openoffice.. sudo apt-get install openoffice
[22:51] <Cybertinus> dminus, FiReSTaRT, guntbert: I just remounted it read-write, and then I run apt-get update && apt-get upgrade && apt-get dist-upgrade. There aren't any new versions available. So then it is installed?
[22:51] <new2linx> oops, thought I was in mythtv-ubuntu
[22:51] <buch> Anyone know how to disable anonymous access to Proftpd application ?
[22:52] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: just for s&g i'd do it via gui as it may have already downloaded the package... system, admin, update manager and check for updates :)
[22:52] <usr13> erik__: or abiword if you prefer  sudo apt-get install abiword
[22:52] <erik__> ok
[22:52] <JayX> firestart hey what file system should I partition a drive to so i can install ubuntu ( i am in GParted @ the momment)
[22:52] <JayX> n
[22:52] <Cybertinus> dminus, FiReSTaRT, guntbert: I already had /boot remounted before. The last update run just downloaded everything and then failed on the /boot partition that was mounted read only. Then I remounted it read-write, and started the upgrade again. So it is possible that it is installed already :)
[22:52] <erik__> abi word is installed
[22:53] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: won't hurt to retry
[22:53] <guntbert> Cybertinus: type uname -r
[22:53] <usr13> erik__: OpenOffice is feature rich.  You will like it for sure.
[22:53] <JayX> firestart hey what file system should I partition a drive to so i can install ubuntu ( i am in GParted @ the momment)
[22:53] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: run ext3 for now.. once they iron out ext4 you can always chage it  up
[22:53] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: also the update manager has nothing
[22:53] <FiReSTaRT> chage=change
[22:53] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: in that case you're golden :)
[22:53] <usr13> JayX: Just leave free-space
[22:53] <Cybertinus> guntbert: 2.6.28-13-generic
[22:54] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: ok, nice :)
[22:54] <usr13> JayX: Just leave an empty, un-partitoned space on the drive.
[22:54] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: actually usr13 is correct you can leave it as free space and then select it once you run the installer
[22:54] <guntbert> Cybertinus: thats ok
[22:54] <riegersn> how can i test pulseaudio on a cli system
[22:54] <erik__> any remember wordpad from windows
[22:54] <usr13> erik__: Yes, I don
[22:54] <usr13> do*
[22:54] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: not too fondly :)
[22:54] <erik__> thats wat im looking for
[22:54] <JayX> usr13 well im partitioning my drive into 3 primary drives (Ubuntu, Win XP, and DATA(for mp3/movies/pics) firestart
[22:55] <erik__> is firefox the best webbrowser
[22:55] <misha_> join #networking
[22:55] <usr13> erik__: Yes
[22:55] <Cybertinus> guntbert: ok, nice :). Then I have the new kernel :)
[22:55] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: so create the doze/data partitions and leave whatever you want for ubuntu as free space
[22:55] <JayX> erik__ hell yes
[22:55] <lstarnes> erik__: in most cases, yes
[22:55] <erik__> the thing about firefox 3 is the bookmarks
[22:55] <lstarnes> erik__: but it's a matter of preference if you like it or not
[22:55] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: so far it is.. i prefer to use opera but it doesn't play well with 64bit ubuntu
[22:55] <usr13> JayX: Just leave the amount of space you want to use for the Ubuntu install un-partioned.
[22:55] <erik__> its not as simple as in firefox 2
[22:56] <nicccc> anybody have any luck watching Netflix instant videos on ubuntu?  right now I have no other OS's
[22:56] <JayX> usr13 firestart thanks.
[22:56] <Cybertinus> another question: I'm pretty new to Ubuntu, but I have used different distributions before: how often does the kernel version change? I mean: does 9.04 always uses 2.6.28, or does it switch to 2.6.29 or 2.6.30 at some point?
[22:56] <erik__> what is the recommend irc program
[22:56] <dajhorn> nicccc: Your only choice is a VM.   Silverlight doesn't work in WINE yet.
[22:56] <JayX> erik__ Xchat
[22:56] <FiReSTaRT> erik__: xchat... get the regular package, not xchat-gnome
[22:56] <ELYoung> wow nice, lots of peeps here
[22:56] <usr13> Cybertinus: The interval is undetermined.
[22:57] <Cybertinus> usr13: ok, but 2.6.29 or 2.6.30 do get in 9.04? I don't have to wait for 9.10 before I get 2.6.30? :)
[22:57] <JayX> firestart regular xchat pagckage?  i have xchat-gonme whats the regular one??
[22:57] <nicccc> dajhorn: are there other vm's that support silverlight?  any other suggestions?
[22:57] <erik__> xchat 2.8.6
[22:57] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: if they get released in about 5 months, you're golden :P
[22:58] <usr13> erik__: I use irssi  but, to each his own.  Open-Source applications are personal preference.
[22:58] <dajhorn> nicccc: Silverlight works fine in VirtualBox, VMware, Qemu, et al.
[22:58] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: easier to use yet more feature-rich :)
[22:58] <erik__> remember im new to linx
[22:58] <erik__> linux
[22:58] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: well, 2.6.30 is released just last week. And it has some nice new features I want to use ;). So that's why I'm asking ;)
[22:58] <JayX> erik__ me and you are on the same page!  week one for me :P
[22:58] <nicccc> dajhorn: which is best for a cheap noob like myself?
[22:59] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: oops they also have to get tested by ubuntu devs just to make sure they play well :)
[22:59] <usr13> Cybertinus: If you have particular needs for a particular kernel version, you can install it and use it, but that is an advanced proceedure.
[22:59] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: I'm used to Gentoo, which is a rolling release distro. My Gentoo computer runs 2.6.30 for little more then a week now ;)
[22:59] <mambokurt> hi there. does somebody know a place to get a little bluefish/php question answered?
[22:59] <dajhorn> nicccc: VirtualBox and QEMU are both packaged in Ubuntu.
[22:59] <JayX> firestart ohh how so i install the "regular" package
[22:59] <ELYoung> anyone know a fix for dxgrab mouse fix for playing games in wine?
[22:59] <nicccc> dajhorn: awesome...i'll check that out...thanks for the advice!
[22:59] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: lets do it through synaptic as im not 100% sure about the package names.. fire it up :)
[22:59] <ELYoung> i mean, my mouse cursor never gets "grabbed" and hits the edge of screen when I'm "freelooking" in games
[22:59] <Cybertinus> usr13: ok. I'm gonna look for some howto or documentation on how to do that then :)
[22:59] <sebsebseb> mambokurt: #php
[23:00] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: type "xchat" (no quotation marks) into the search field
[23:00] <usr13> Cybertinus: If you deviate the default kernel version, you move into the area of an experimental OS.
[23:00] <ntemis> need some help guys
[23:00] <Cybertinus> usr13, FiReSTaRT: 2.6.30 has a few performance improvements in the disk encryption section. I've got my entier Ubuntu install encrypted (except for /boot), so a speed improvent I would benefit from ;)
[23:00] <FiReSTaRT> click on the green square next to xchat-gnome and click on mark for complete removal
[23:00] <JayX> firestart ok
[23:01] <ntemis> trying to build from source
[23:01] <JayX> firestart ok but im using it now complete removal/??
[23:01] <Cybertinus> usr13: ok. That is what dual boot is invented for ;) (1 that just works, 1 that I can destroy :p
[23:01] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: then click on the white square next to xchat and click on mark for installation
[23:01] <Cybertinus> _
[23:01] <usr13> Cybertinus: See:  https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Kernel/Compile
[23:01] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: copy my notes into gedit ;)
[23:01] <enduser000> hey can anyone tell me why I can't move my mouse to my external monitor? I have it set on separate x screen and it has it's own panels but it won't let me move there
[23:01] <ntemis> configure: error: At least one of ncursesw/ncurses/pdcurses/curses library must be present
[23:01] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: then you fire up xchat and get back in here :)
[23:01] <JayX> firestart k  doing that
[23:01] <ntemis> what i miss?
[23:02] <JayX> firestart k  hold on let me do it on my laptop
[23:02] <erik__> jay what got u interested in ubuntu
[23:03] <guntbert> !ot | erik__
[23:03] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: that's interesting as i wanted to play around with encryption.. since i'm not hardcore into it, i can wait until it gets released and learn for now :P
[23:03] <Vincent_k> Hi all.. I have this issue with ramzswap being used for hibernation instead of my diskswap? any ideas
[23:04] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: well, it actually isn't that hard to setup :). Just download the alternative install CD, and select the option during the partition section :)
[23:04] <ntemis> configure: error: At least one of ncursesw/ncurses/pdcurses/curses library must be present
[23:04] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: and you *must* have an sperate /boot partion, which *isn't* encrypted. Otherwise you can't boot :)
[23:04] <savid> Hi, I'm trying to build a python library that uses cpp (yapgvb) in ubuntu,  and I'm getting this error:  "error: types.h: No such file or directory"
[23:04] <ntemis> what i must install to continue?
[23:05] <David85> t
[23:05] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: that might even wait until ubuntu 9.10 or i can just try it out on the desktop where i have jaunty beta currently installed when i get back to canada
[23:05] <|thomson|> hey ho :) .. I was wondering whether it's possible to encrypt the whole ubuntu system partition using truecrypt.. in windows that's no problem
[23:05] <FiReSTaRT> Cybertinus: dont wanna screw around with my only computer on this continent :P
[23:05] <FiReSTaRT> |thomson|: talk to Cybertinus ;)
[23:05] <sebsebseb> |thomson|: you can encrypt with  whatever they have on the alternate CD
[23:06] <Cybertinus> FiReSTaRT: heh, yeah that sound like a sensible idea, to keep you're only computer working :p
[23:06] <sebsebseb> |thomson|: when doing a clean install
[23:06] <usr13> I'm not sure what the attraction to encrypted filesystem is.  Can someone enlighten me to what advantages one would enjoy with encrypted file-systems?
[23:06] <FiReSTaRT> |thomson|: even though i think you could do it post-install with truecrypt but i haven't tried it.. so far i've only used other implementations of it (memory sticks and files)
[23:07] <Cybertinus> sebsebseb, |thomson|: the alternate install uses the kernel encryption modules, which is a part of the device mapper
[23:07] <Cybertinus> sebsebseb, |thomson|: which is something different then TrueCrypt
[23:07] <amseidler> How do you install Windows Live mail with wine?
[23:07] <sebsebseb> |thomson|: you didn't have to pm me that, and yes there  is an option on the alternate CD to have a clean install encrypted
[23:07] <FiReSTaRT> usr13: in case someone steals your computer and tries to get into your personal data, they're basically s.o.l.
[23:07] <sebsebseb> amseidler: mail???  do you mean messenger?
[23:08] <amseidler> sebsebseb: No, I mean mail
[23:08] <Cybertinus> sebsebseb, |thomson|: but with the kernel encryption module you can encrypt your enter system (except for /boot) :). I'm running such a system now (on my Eee 901, installed on an SD-card, which makes it *SLOW* :p)
[23:08] <FiReSTaRT> usr13: it's also useful for us that are a bit on the paranoid side when it comes to the government :P
[23:08] <sebsebseb> amseidler: some sort of email client from Microsoft?  well you can use  web based  Hotmail and such in a browser with Linux
[23:08] <hanasaki> what do I need to change in exim on ubuntu so I can send out and relay if authenticated?
[23:08] <usr13> FiReSTaRT: Oh yes. Laptops... etc.  Well, I don't live in the city and some of those things I'm a bit out of touch with.
[23:08] <amseidler> sebsebseb: I don't like webbased email
[23:08] <amseidler> I prefer a client
[23:09] <sebsebseb> usr13: well if it's a lap top, and it gets stolen,  people can't just get into the data
[23:09] <usr13> FiReSTaRT: Thanks for the explaination.
[23:09] <|thomson|> sebsebseb: sry my irc client suggested me to do so ;) .. ok that's my next question: is there any loss of performance when I use it?
[23:09] <enduser000> hey can anyone tell me why I can't move my mouse to my external monitor? I have it set on separate x screen and it has it's own panels but it won't let me move there
[23:09] <FiReSTaRT> usr13: same goes for desktops :) a crackhead will steal anything that's not nailed down to the floor :P
[23:09] <mattis> I just installed sun-java6-jre but I have no 'java' or 'javac' on my path. Any ideas?
[23:09] <sebsebseb> amseidler: ok well that's ok, but using a Microsoft one no thanks.   Oh you mean Outlook Express?  Windows mail?
[23:09] <usr13> explanation*
[23:09] <petx> hi all...I need a network scanner that shows shared folder... any clue...??
[23:10] <JayX> Whats ubuntu 9.04 codee named/ Jacky?
[23:10] <FiReSTaRT> usr13: np.. k im off to raid the in-laws' kitchen... i smell freshly-fried flatbread :D
[23:10] <FiReSTaRT> JayX: jaunty jackalope
[23:10] <FiReSTaRT> or something like that :P
[23:10]  * FiReSTaRT off to grab some grub *waves*
[23:10] <sebsebseb> !9.04 |  JayX
[23:10] <andytayloruk> hi. I just installed ubuntu to my hd via netinstall off a usb stick, but it won't boot (Operating system not found). However, i booted a rescue cd and the files are definetly there
[23:10] <usr13> FiReSTaRT: in that case, I don't see the need to encrypt /boot partition, but... maybe I'm wrong about that..
[23:11] <FiReSTaRT> usr13: i never meant the boot partition.. really all you need to encrypt is /home :)
[23:11] <andytayloruk> all the partitions are correct, nothing wrong with the hd
[23:11] <usr13> FiReSTaRT: Yes, that's true....
[23:11] <krdyt> what is the command to install unrar program?
[23:12] <sebsebseb> !rar |  krdyt
[23:12] <krdyt> synaptic didnt work it right
[23:12] <usr13> krdyt: to uncompress you unrar it first.
[23:12] <ditty_kong> I tried to install updates after the update icon started to flash. I am running Xubuntu 9.04...I got a broken package error.  This was the error. [E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)]     I tried apt-get clean and then the upgrade and it failed. I tried apt-get -f upgrade and it failed. apt-get -f install and it failed. I tried sudo dpkg --confihure -a and it failed. The file that fails to upgrade is na
[23:12] <ditty_kong> med (tzdata-java) and terminal says it has dependency problems...
[23:12] <sebsebseb> krdyt: sudo apt-get install unrar-free
[23:12] <usr13> krdyt: Oh to install unrar it should just be sudo apt-get install unrar
[23:12] <ntemis> need help please
[23:13] <krdyt> thanks sebsebseb
[23:13] <ntemis> configure: error: No uuid_create or uuid_generate function in library libuuid or uuidgen function present
[23:13] <ntemis> what must install to continue
[23:13] <sebsebseb> krdyt: np
[23:13] <usr13> krdyt: sebsebseb Or, yes  apt-get install unrar-free    Your choice.
[23:14] <ntemis> please anyone
[23:14] <mattis> I just installed sun-java6-jre but I have no 'java' on my path. Any ideas?
[23:14] <sebsebseb> !details |  ntemis
[23:14] <ntemis> i try to install testdisk
[23:14] <usr13> mattis: What are you trying to do?
[23:14] <ntemis> from source
[23:14] <ntemis> and on ./configure i have this
[23:14] <ntemis> configure: error: No uuid_create or uuid_generate function in library libuuid or uuidgen function present
[23:15] <mattis> usr13: I want to run a jar file, java -jar 'somejarfile.jar'
[23:15] <ntemis> i miss a package to finish configure
[23:16] <ntemis> ubuntu 9.04
[23:16] <sebsebseb> ntemis: I used that program once in Windows, to recover data from a deleted Ext3 partition
[23:16] <sebsebseb> ntemis: once? or a few times, whatever untill I had my data :)
[23:16] <usr13> /usr/bin/java -jar 'somefile.jar'
[23:17] <usr13> mattis: /usr/bin/java -jar 'somefile.jar'
[23:17] <ntemis> am trying to recover a vista partition i erased on gparted by mistake
[23:17] <usr13> mattis: which java
[23:17] <henrik__> Hey
[23:17] <mattis> usr13: that's the problem, there's no java on the path.
[23:17] <FiReSTaRT> got kicked out of the kitchen.. still cookin :P
[23:17] <ntemis> idid it but i have a non boot device so i must install it again
[23:17] <usr13> mattis: Why is that a problem?
[23:18] <Dev_Team> ntemis congrats
[23:18] <ntemis> you have any eperience on the subject
[23:18] <mattis> usr13: because I installed the package 'sun-java6-jre' and would expect it to be on the path
[23:18] <sebsebseb> ntemis: helping with recovering a deleted Vista partition hum
[23:18] <ntemis> i did it but testdisk ask me to reboot
[23:18] <sebsebseb> ntemis: I expect the Windows fan boys in ##windows have ideas on how you can recover the data as well
[23:18] <ntemis> and because am using live cd i dont have it again after reboot
[23:18] <dasux> ah
[23:18] <ditty_kong> Awww man I found my problem in a bug report.....son of a ----
[23:18] <henrik__> Q: Is the file ftp://ftp.klid.dk/ubuntu-cd/jaunty/ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso   only for AMD computers ?
[23:19] <twocarlo> hey i just installed bittorent ,but i dont know the filename to cick
[23:19] <ntemis> i hoped to try again to recover it by testdiak
[23:19] <Ttech> Golden_bullet, hello
[23:19] <ntemis> diak
[23:19] <Ttech> your here.
[23:19] <FiReSTaRT> henrik__: no, it just refers to the 64bit architecture
[23:19] <ntemis> disk\
[23:19] <ntemis> but am missing a package
[23:19] <ditty_kong> >:0 err maybe there is a work around
[23:19] <ntemis> am not a funboy but i need that partition to get my data
[23:19] <twocarlo> hey i just installed bittorent ,but i dont know the filename to click
[23:19] <mattis> What package do I need to install to get java on the path
[23:19] <usr13> I think you can just add to path:  PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin
[23:19] <ntemis> i have a lot of films and my dauthers fotos
[23:20] <mattis> usr13: there is no java binary in /usr/bin
[23:20] <FiReSTaRT> twocarlo: try under applications, internet.. that's where it should show up
[23:20] <usr13> mattis: I think you can just add to path:  PATH=$PATH:/usr/bin
[23:20] <ditty_kong> does anyone know about this bug? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/tzdata/+bug/356339/comments/3
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ntemis: you should start saving stuff on Ext3  I think,  make yourself a Ext3 partition for only data, and you can share with Windows as well
[23:20] <ntemis> so am crying for help please
[23:20] <usser> mattis, sun-java6-jre
[23:20] <usr13> mattis: which java
[23:20] <usr13> mattis: which sun-java6-jre
[23:20] <mattis> usr13: which java shows a blank line
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ntemis: and I didn't mean you, I meant some of the people that will go to the channel I suggested you joined
[23:20] <ntemis> i need to access disk first
[23:20] <Ttech> Whats the purpose of console-kit-daemon?
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ntemis: they will know how to get hold of the deleted data
[23:20] <sebsebseb> ntemis: the data from the deleted partition
[23:21] <ntemis> testdisk will work am sure
[23:21] <mattis> usser: yeah, that's the problem. I have installed sun-java6-jre but I have no 'java' on the path
[23:21] <Ttech> and why does it do this? Jun 19 09:50:02 console-kit-daemon[14466]: WARNING: Couldn't read /proc/14464/environ: Failed to open file '/proc/14464/environ': No such file or directory
[23:21] <ntemis> if i get it to install again
[23:21] <usr13> mattis: But I think it is just java
[23:21] <sebsebseb> ntemis: well I know it does in Windows, but  haven't done it on Linux,  just as most/all of the people that come here won't have either.   you could also try this one in ##linux  the general Linux channel
[23:21] <ntemis> ok thanks
[23:21] <usr13> mattis: /usr/bin/java -jar 'somefile.jar'
[23:22] <usser> mattis, you sure its installed dpkg -l | grep sun-java
[23:22] <mattis> usr13: thanks for your help, but I don't think you understand the problem. I have installed the package 'sun-java6-jre' which should place the 'java' binary in /usr/bin/java. It's not there.
[23:22] <sebsebseb> ntemis: ok good luck
[23:22] <ntemis> :)
[23:22] <mattis> usser: hold on a sec
[23:22] <usr13> mattis: THen it is improperly installed.
[23:22] <usr13> mattis: Or the install is incomplete.
[23:23] <mattis> usser: I have sun-java6-jre / bin and plugin installed according to 'dpkg -l'
[23:23] <junglist_> I  have a problem with Ubuntu Netbook Remix. I have switched to Classice desktop mode but I can't right click on the esktop and create new folders or anything and noe of my icons show up on the desktop. Anyone know the fix?
[23:23] <andytayloruk> hi I Just reinstalled grub to the MBR and still getting operating system not found :/
[23:23] <usser> mattis, sudo update-alternatives --config java
[23:23] <usser> mattis, make sure sun jre is selected
[23:24] <mattis> usser: that did the trick
[23:24] <mattis> usser: thanks a bunch
[23:24] <usr13> usser: Thanks
[23:24] <ELYoung> junglist_ do you have nautilus installed?
[23:24] <usser> junglist_, alt+f2 type nautilus <ENTER>
[23:24] <usser> mattis, usr13 no problem
[23:24] <amseidler> How do you install this file: http://linux.softpedia.com/progDownload/Marble-Blast-Gold-Edition-Download-4380.html
[23:25] <junglist_> ELYoung usser thanks. So Nautalis doesnt run at startup eh
[23:25] <junglist_> Thanks again!
[23:25] <usr13> amseidler: ./MarbleBlastGoldDemo-1.4.1.sh.bin
[23:25] <usser> junglist_, from what i remember with netbook remix, no. You have to add it to startup applications if you want classic desktop
[23:25] <amseidler> usr13: Do I tun that in terminal?
[23:26] <usr13> amseidler: Yes
[23:26] <amseidler> usr13: Ok
[23:26] <amseidler> Done
[23:26] <amseidler> usr13: http://cpcheating.com/screenies/Dy2Dgf16S3hIflFPuZVoC8sHbSGsgPdv.png
[23:26] <mattis> usser: I have five alternatives for java, is it safe to remove them?
[23:26] <ibmman> how do i run windows on parallel desktop in ubuntu?
[23:26] <x12> ibmman u dont
[23:26] <usser> mattis, yea, as long as you know which package correspond to what
[23:27] <VCoolio> amseidler: did you navigate to where that file is?
[23:27] <amseidler> VCoolio: No
[23:27] <amseidler> would I put ./home/adam/Desktop/<arbleBlastGoldDemo-1.4.1.sh.bin?
[23:27] <usr13> amseidler: cd Desktop ; ./MarbleBlastGoldDemo-1.4.1.sh.bin
[23:28] <VCoolio> amseidler: do that then, if it is on your desktop 'cd ~/Desktop'
[23:28] <amseidler> Sweet, thanks :)
[23:28] <usr13> amseidler: Or cd to what ever directory you downloaded it to.
[23:33] <NfNitLoop> Hello!   I'm seeing something strange.  I'm trying to `apt-get --reinstall install mysql-common` but doing so does not seem to put /etc/mysql/my.cnf into place.
[23:33] <NfNitLoop> even though I can see it with dpkg -L mysql-common
[23:33] <ruler> how to install vlc player in ubuntu
[23:34] <x12> ruler: find it in the package manager
[23:34] <usr13> NfNitLoop: See:  http://bugs.mysql.com/bug.php?id=34542
[23:35] <usr13> ruler: sudo apt-get install vlc
[23:35] <SeekingNothing> Is there a way to uninstall a program that doesn't show up in the add/remove applications in 9.04?
[23:36] <jrib> SeekingNothing: how was it installed?
[23:36] <usr13> SeekingNothing: apt-get remove <application-name>
[23:36] <Gran_Ger> hi there. need some help please, with ubuntu jaunty and nvidia nforce gpi
[23:36] <SeekingNothing> danke
[23:36] <jrib> Gran_Ger: be more specific
[23:36] <alessandro_> ciao sono nuovo
[23:36] <err0r_handler> Hello
[23:36] <alessandro_> chi ceeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:36] <kad_> hello need help i install shockwave plugin on firefox for flash and it's not good how i can remove it !
[23:37] <alessandro_> italianiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
[23:37] <Gran_Ger> thanks jrib. I have a sony vaio desktop pcv-rx100m
[23:37] <kbrosnan> kad_: shockwave is not avaible on linux
[23:37] <usr13> SeekingNothing: jrib is correct. It depends on how it was installed.
[23:37] <jrib> kad_: how did you install it exactly?
[23:37] <jrib> !it | alessandro_
[23:37] <NfNitLoop> usr13: that seems to be talking about installing via mysql_install_db, not via apt-get...
[23:37] <TheBase> hello
[23:37] <Gran_Ger> with an nvidia card nforce gpi
[23:37] <NfNitLoop> usr13: I'll keep reading...
[23:37] <jrib> !enter | Gran_Ger
[23:37] <kad_> jrib, i open youtube it give me download plugin addon there was shochwave !on ubuntu 9.04
[23:37] <alessandro_> grazieeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
[23:37] <S0LIDUS> kad_ If you used synaptic then you can use that if not it will be in the firefox plugin folder!
[23:38] <jrib> kad_: apt-cache policy flashplugin-nonfree
[23:38] <TheBase> I'm trying to run a wireless supplicant as a normal user but it doesn't have access to the wireless adapter. Where can I set the permission for it?
[23:38] <fretinit> whats a good .wav player for ubuntu??
[23:38] <TheBase> I mean, what permissions do I have to change?
[23:38] <jrib> fretinit: mplayer?
[23:38] <Gran_Ger> when I install the propietary drivers, the screen fails, or freeze
[23:38] <fretinit> dont think that worked
[23:39] <jrib> Gran_Ger: which is it?  Does it "fail" or "freeze"?
[23:39] <kad_> jrib, what does this cmd do =)
[23:39] <jrib> kad_: gives you information.  Pastebin the output
[23:39] <S0LIDUS> Anyone know of a blowfish encryption app for hardy?
[23:39] <jrib> S0LIDUS: apt-cache search blowfish ?
[23:39] <Gran_Ger> freeze
[23:39] <kad_> jrib,  http://pastebin.com/dad07f1b
[23:40] <jrib> Gran_Ger: this happens after you reboot?
[23:40] <jrib> !who | Gran_Ger
[23:40] <jrib> kad_: pastebin the contents of "about:plugins" (enter that into your address bar)
[23:41] <usr13> NfNitLoop: sudo find / -name "my.cnf" -type f
[23:41] <Gran_Ger> jrib, yes happens after reboot, and later I have to start as protected mode, and autofix the x
[23:41] <err0r_handler> anyone using Kubuntu 9.04?
[23:41] <kad_> jrib,  http://pastebin.com/d1f8cf6b9
[23:42] <jrib> kad_: you installed gnash
[23:42] <sandy_> I am running ubuntu 9.04 solely.  I am having trouble installing windows 98 (SE).  I put the CD in, selected the boot sequence to go to CD first, and no go.  It just starts up Ubuntu.
[23:42] <S0LIDUS> jrib: Thanks ! = )
[23:42] <kad_> jrib, yes they told me it's good but seems not :(
[23:43] <jrib> kad_: go into synaptic and uninstall all gnash related packages, then install flashplugin-nonfree
[23:43] <err0r_handler> i'd doubt if grub can handle win 98
[23:43] <kad_> jrib,  okie thx
[23:43] <zhaena> network-manager-openvpn
[23:43] <usr13> err0r_handler: Why not?
[23:44] <cowgarden> hi, how to see *.rar comments/infos embedded in the rar?
[23:44] <sandy_> hmmm...is there a way to circumvent grub?  I wish I didn't have to get windows but there are like 2 things that need it.
[23:44] <err0r_handler> fix the bootloader
[23:44] <cowgarden> sandy_, grub helps you boot windows
[23:44] <jrib> Gran_Ger: reinstall the proprietary drivers, reboot, if x fails, get to tty1 with ctrl-alt-f1, copy /var/log/Xorg.0.log and /etc/X11/xorg.conf somewhere safe, fix x, reboot, pastebin those files
[23:44] <err0r_handler> fix the windows bootloader rather
[23:45] <err0r_handler> but then you would need to reinstall grub if you wanted to use linux again
[23:45] <sandy_> cowgarden: thanx for the tip...had no idea
[23:45] <jrib> sandy_: running windows in a virtualized environment is not enough?
[23:45] <err0r_handler> how does wine preform on KDE?
[23:45] <usr13> err0r_handler: same is on gnome
[23:46] <usr13> err0r_handler: I don't think it matters.
[23:46] <err0r_handler> i was on steam friends, good to see it's fixed now
[23:46] <cowgarden> sandy_, yea, try wine anf if that fails try a virtual PC like virtualbox
[23:46] <err0r_handler> i remember it being flaky at best on wine before
[23:46] <sandy_> I tried virtualbox but couldn't seem to load 98 from the CD
[23:47] <err0r_handler> why Win98?
[23:47] <S0LIDUS> sandy_: Use virtual infastructure from vmware, its free!
[23:47] <sandy_> I have limited resources and had issues with xp
[23:47] <ewsubach> hey everyone. I downloaded a file that came with a .sig for it. also downloaded a key from the company. i signed the key and checked the signature. how do i verify the file is correct?
[23:47] <err0r_handler> i see
[23:47] <err0r_handler> me too
[23:47] <PhotoJim> bbl
[23:48] <usr13> sandy_: Good reason to use linux  :)
[23:48] <err0r_handler> 4GB of RAM sadly
[23:48] <err0r_handler> i need more
[23:48] <sebsebseb> solexious: humm someone recommending a VMware product here for a change,  got a link for that program?
[23:48] <jrib> err0r_handler: please don't use enter as punctuation
[23:48] <sebsebseb> sandy_: how much RAM do you have?
[23:48] <sandy_> I think 640 mb
[23:48] <S0LIDUS> sebsebseb: Are you talking to me?
[23:48] <err0r_handler> sorry, 640MB should subsist XP imo
[23:49] <sebsebseb> S0LIDUS: yes, but messaged wrong person
[23:49] <err0r_handler> sandy_ what arch are you using?
[23:49] <bishop> joining
[23:50] <S0LIDUS> sebsebseb: Cool: http://www.vmware.com/products/server/
[23:50] <sebsebseb> S0LIDUS: oh you meant server, nah  Virtualbox is still better usaully,  well  for networking maybe not, but for home users  yes
[23:50] <sebsebseb> S0LIDUS: that aren't going to network vm's together
[23:51] <sandy_> for some odd reason XP didn't like my product key when I tried installing after formatting.  thats why I was particularly open to trying ubuntu.
[23:51] <S0LIDUS> sebsebseb: My bad i have found support on it is far better than virtual box!
[23:51] <vitamin-carrot> HAI!
[23:51] <sandy_> I even checked the unattend.txt for the key and that didn't work.  Weird.
[23:51] <res22> ls
[23:51] <ewsubach> hey everyone. I downloaded a file that came with a .sig for it. also downloaded a key from the company. i signed the key and checked the signature. how do i verify the file is correct?
[23:52] <cowgarden> is there no way to diplay rar comments?
[23:52] <sebsebseb> sandy_: Which Windows programs would you like to run?
[23:52] <bishop> sandy dumpta vista   using ubuntu9   not going back
[23:52] <faldo> hi
[23:52] <SkinnYPuP> Hey , I'm looking at new motherboard combos. Ubu do ok with AMD Phenom quad cores?
[23:52] <err0r_handler> sandy_ imho VM ware on your limited system would be very slow
[23:52] <faldo> !wiki cheese
[23:52] <faldo> !cheese
[23:52] <sandy_> sebsebseb: iTunes and Netflix Movie Viewer
[23:53] <Barridus> SkinnYPuP, dunno about quad, but it runs great on my phenom2 tricore
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !itunes |  sandy_
[23:53] <anjuder> y a til des francais svp?
[23:53] <Gran_Ger> jrib, what is a pastebin?
[23:53] <Hilikus> hey guys, what would i need to save and what kind of things would i lose if i wanted to do a clean system install and then bring back as much of the configs from before? i want to clean my system, i've been upgrading since like feisty but i've spent a lot of time configuring things the way i like
[23:53] <faldo> hey what's hat webcam app for gnome, isn'it cheese?
[23:53] <res22> #ubuntu, for some reason I can't view web pages, I can connect to IRC alright, but all my web broswers seem unable to connect to the internet
[23:53] <jrib> !pastebin | Gran_Ger
[23:53] <sebsebseb> !players |  sandy_
[23:53] <SkinnYPuP> Barridus, didn't realize they had made a 3 core proc... cool
[23:54] <sebsebseb> sandy_: What do you use Netflix for?
[23:54] <vitamin-carrot> quick question - I dual boot with winXP and Ubuntu 9.04 64bit on a 300GB SATA hdd - i recently bought another 1tb and wish to move everything over to it
[23:54] <anjuder> quelqu'un peut'il m'envoyer le ien du forum en francais svp?
[23:54] <sandy_> I have used banshee for about a day or so.  Haven't tried adding anything to the iPod yet.  Might not need itunes.
[23:54] <Barridus> sebsebseb, my guess would be she watches crap
[23:55] <err0r_handler> what processor are you using sandy_
[23:55] <BellinXFelon> does xubuntu support ipod and other mp3 players? I know it doesnt support zunes, and what program can i use to transfer music?
[23:55] <sandy_> sebsebseb: netflix has instantly available movies that you stream and are good quality
[23:55] <sebsebseb> Barridus: that's not a very helpful comment
[23:55] <Gran_Ger> thanks
[23:55] <faldo> !cheese
[23:55] <faldo> bouh!
[23:55] <usser> !info cheese
[23:55] <faldo> thanks
[23:55] <usser> np
[23:55] <sebsebseb> sandy_: I see, but there  are other  services out there,  that are more Linux friendly
[23:55] <sandy_> err0r_handler: cleron 2.4ghz
[23:55] <bishop> leaving..bebak
[23:55] <sandy_> celeron
[23:56] <_2eXtreme> hey guys,does anyone have any experience in triple booting mac os x/windows/jaunty on a macbook?
[23:56] <usser> _2eXtreme, yea
[23:56] <usr13> vitamin-carrot: http://www.feyrer.de/g4u/
[23:56] <BlackGuilmon> I'm having a prob duil booting. I installed Ubuntu 8.10 onto a 300 GB HDD. I have Windows Vista on a 500 GB HDD. For some reasion I can only boot into Vista. The boot loader wont even come up.
[23:57] <vitamin-carrot> usr13: would that require me to keep the HDD sizes?
[23:57] <usr13> BlackGuilmon: Grub is improperly installed, or not installed.
[23:57] <vitamin-carrot> i dunno
[23:57] <sandy_> sebsebseb: do you have any alternates you'd recommend?
[23:57] <usr13> vitamin-carrot: You will need to resize partitions.
[23:57] <BlackGuilmon> How can I fix that?
[23:57] <blaat_> exit
[23:57] <SkinnYPuP> BlackGuilmon, sounds like grub didn't install to the primary drive, google reinstalling grub
[23:57] <sebsebseb> sandy_: for what?
[23:57] <sebsebseb> sandy_: the two programs?
[23:57] <_2eXtreme> usser: is there anyway to take windows off grub, so that instead of having to select windows on teh rEFIt menu, and then again on the grub menu, i just need to select it on the rEFIt menu, and itll boot straight into windows?
[23:58] <usr13> BlackGuilmon: boot rescue mode from CD
[23:58] <sandy_> netflix instant on linux
[23:58] <vitamin-carrot> with g part?
[23:58] <SkinnYPuP> _2eXtreme, you need to edit your /boot/grub/menu.lst file
[23:58] <sebsebseb> sandy_: do you have another computer with Windows as well maybe?
[23:58] <ravl> nas noches
[23:58] <SeekingNothing> Odd problem: I tried installing Opera 9.64 on my new install of Ubuntu 9.04 and it says it successfully installs, but then I try running it and nothing happens.
[23:58] <usr13> !grub | BlackGuilmon
[23:58] <_2eXtreme> SkinnYPuP: just remove the windows entry?
[23:58] <usser> _2eXtreme, refit should detect windows, thats how it was in my case, i also had a record for windows in grub which i deleted
[23:59] <sandy_> sebsebseb: yeah, that'll do for the meantime.  but  this computer would be preferable.
[23:59] <BlackGuilmon> usr13: I didn't see that option on the ubuntu boot CD.
[23:59] <usr13> !rescue | BlackGuilmon
[23:59] <mrwes> o/
[23:59] <sanguisdex> so I just reinstalled my LAMP via aptitude and now when I go to localhost/PHPfile it tries to downlaod it
[23:59] <vitamin-carrot> usr13: would parted magic have the same tool?
[23:59] <SkinnYPuP> _2eXtreme, put # infront of lines you want to comment out