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spmhmmm. following along the support/installation instructions.; step 3 fails. click the menu. nothing. run the applet from the cmd line, works fine - and a page opens in firefox. odd.00:33
dobeyspm that is indeed odd05:05
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thisfredGOOOOOD morning Ubuntu One!09:03
thisfredfor very local values of morning, I realize09:03
thisfredThis is a local morning, for local people09:03
alanbellmorning thisfred09:14
thisfredhi alanbell09:16
thisfredah, new kernel, restart required...09:19
leoquant-13 kernel indeed fingers crossed .....09:20
alanbellnew kernel in Jaunty?09:28
thisfredalanbell: I'm not sure, I'm using way too many repositories... ;)09:32
leoquantuname -r 2.6.28-13-generic09:33
alanbellI am on 2.6.28-11-generic09:46
* Ng hmms, I think the U1 client tries to connect too soon after NM announces a connection09:48
NgI use a wired connection in a place where there is also wireless, so I end up connecting to both and the few seconds where that's all happening seems to make network things quite unhappy09:49
leoquantalanbell with a default repos. you should have the -13 imho...10:08
leoquant(no proposed or backports here)10:09
artiru1 client latest update requires gtk 2.17 and latest in jaunty is 2.16.110:12
rodrigo_morning10:23
daubersHey all, just to check before I file a bug, does anyone else have long filenames overlapping with the file underneath in the web UI?11:41
jdobriendaubers: yeah that's reported11:50
daubersAh, ok11:50
jdobrienthe file ui is going to get an overhaul11:50
daubersI had a quick ;look but couldn't find it on launchpad11:50
jdobrienweb that is11:50
daubersoooh, interesting11:58
daubersIt's quite nice already11:59
thisfrednew py.test beta is out: http://pypi.python.org/pypi?:action=display&name=py&version=1.0.0b312:28
thisfredthe py. libraries are usually a bit too magic for me, but ymmv, and they do incredibly cool and clever stuff12:28
mattgriffingood morning beta testers :)13:30
facundobatistaHi all13:30
facundobatistaHi mattgriffin13:30
rodrigo_hi mattgriffin13:33
SteveAhi matt13:36
jblountHmm. So I have to keep 'sudo killall ubuntuone-client ubuntuone-syncdaemon' and restarting ubuntuone-client to upload a bunch (4GB or so) or stuff.13:39
jdobrienjblount: I just disconnect and reconnect13:41
jdobrienjblount: no fancy killing13:41
jdobrienjblount: we really need some bandwidth throttling though13:41
jdobrienjblount: U1 will take all my bandwidth and I can't even read mail13:42
jblountjdobrien: Eh, I'd love for it to take all my bandwidth, I shouldn't have to dis/re connect in order to upload a couple of gigs of files. That's dumb.13:42
* jdobrien was digging into some python bandwidth throttling code13:42
jdobrienjblount: well...I had work to do ;)13:43
jblountjdobrien: This is my work! :)13:43
jdobriendid anyone notice that when sharing folders, it doesn't group them by who shared them...so you can have folders listed with the same name13:45
jdobrienthats in the web ^^13:45
jblountjdobrien: That's true, it's a totally different experience.13:45
dobeyhrmm13:49
dobeyi wonder if it would be better instead of having "foo from bar/" to have "bar/foo/" as the directory shared to you13:50
dobeythat way if someone shares multiple things to you, they're all grouped by that person13:50
jblountdobey: +113:50
dobeyi blogged about the 0.90.2 tarballs being released, last night too13:51
statikhello world13:53
jdobriendobey: in the web ui, I would like to have /Shared With Me/<Who>/<Share Name>/13:54
jdobriendobey: adding more folders on the client wouldn't be a good idea13:54
dobeyjdobrien: right. i was suggesting we should do it that way on the client, rather than how we are now13:54
jdobriendobey: at least from the "I can't put files in Shared With Me/John O'Brien/13:55
dobeybut i don't want to write the migration code13:55
dobeyjdobrien: the web ui shouldn't display things differently than the local client.13:55
jblountdobey: If your blog had comments, I would comment "well don"13:59
jblounts/don/done13:59
dobeymy blog explicitly doesn't have comments, because the majority of them would be "you suck" or "buy some viagra", and i don't like getting spam :)14:00
dobeyi get enough spam in my email14:00
jdobrienspam is viagra14:05
jdobrienI need two volunteers14:09
dobeyspam spam spam spam spam bacon, eggs, viagra, and spam14:09
jblountjdobrien: Pick me!14:09
jdobrienplease share a folder with me using the name "TestFolder" send it to webm0nk3y@gmail.com14:10
jdobrienI need one more14:10
jdobriendobey: ? ^^14:10
jdobrienit can be any folder14:11
jdobrieneven an empty one14:11
jblountjdobrien: Done deal.14:12
thisfredjdobrien: sharing folder with you14:12
jdobrienthisfred: thanks...make sure you name it TestFolder14:13
jdobriennot the folder...the share14:13
thisfredok!14:13
verterokjdobrien: please don't break it :)14:14
thisfredjdobrien: read only or not or dudn14:14
thisfredt it matter?14:14
jdobrienthisfred: doesn't matter14:14
thisfredk14:14
jdobrienverterok: oh...i'14:14
thisfredsharified!14:14
jdobrienverterok: oh...i'm gonna break it!14:14
jdobrienbam!14:15
jdobrienntegrityError at /files/shareoffer/93b3b6b1-1fb0-4b0e-91b1-b258e44f20e6/claim/14:15
jdobrienduplicate key value violates unique constraint "share_shared_to_key"14:15
verterokjdobrien: I knew!14:15
jdobrienthat's dumb integrity error14:15
jdobrienor we should let the user edit the name14:15
jdobrienI could call it "Stupid dog pictures Josh shared with me"14:16
jdobrienhehe14:16
verterokjdobrien: we should check that before sending the share invitation, and popup for a name change, in this case: when thisfred tried to share with the same name14:17
jdobrienverterok: that's not possible14:17
jdobrienverterok: when you send it via email, you don't know which user will accept it14:17
thisfredids and user entered names should probably not be mixed14:18
verterokjdobrien: you'r right...14:18
jdobrienverterok: but when accepting the share, it could say, This name is already used, enter a new name for this folder14:18
dobeyyay, i guess i don't have to do anything14:19
jdobrienverterok: I kind of like the idea of letting the user edit the folder name14:19
verterokjdobrien: but the shared_to user can't change the name of the share...the share it's owned by the creator14:19
jdobriendobey: nope...you can get back to real work :)14:19
dobeywhich is good, since i'm in the middle of a branch to merge the HTTP sharing code into syncdaemon14:19
jdobrienverterok: huh...the share name belongs to the shared_to14:19
jdobrienverterok: everything else is controlled by the shared_by14:20
verterokdobey: btw, you already know that it should use twisted http client or do the work in thread..right?14:20
dobeyverterok: yes14:20
verterokgreat! :D14:20
dobeyverterok: the code that was in the nautilus extension was in a thread anyway, to avoid blocking UI :)14:21
verterokdobey: :)14:21
verterokjdobrien: really? facundobatista should know better than me14:21
jdobrienverterok: i think it's more of a design decision14:21
* facundobatista read14:21
facundobatista*reads14:21
jdobrienverterok: I would think users should have control over how their stuff is organized14:22
jdobrienverterok, facundobatista: we may want to think about a redesign on that at some point. giving the shared_to user more control14:23
verterokjdobrien: in the desktop side that's an issue, as syncdaemon don't allow share folder renaming14:23
jdobrienverterok: yes14:23
verterokdobey, all: I'm working on the share delete fix, should we remove the files when a share is deleted? if the share is RW the user might have local changes...14:24
jdobrienverterok: I think it's a design issue. we have this folder structure that the user doesn't have control over14:24
facundobatistaverterok, I don't understand what exactly I shoud know better14:24
verterokfacundobatista: if the name of the share is owned by the shared_to user14:24
jdobrienfacundobatista: bug #38949114:25
facundobatistaverterok, what is "the name of the share"?14:25
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389491 in ubuntuone-client "Exception thrown when I recieve a folder share with the same name as an existing one" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38949114:25
dobeyverterok: i don't know. ask the design kids :)14:25
verterokfacundobatista: the share name?14:25
* verterok pokes "the design kids"14:25
jblountverterok: I would say moving it to the "My Files" side might be nice, but we don't have a way to tell the user this happened.14:26
jblountverterok: He meant #design on canonical's irc server14:26
verterokubottu: poke the design kids!14:26
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:26
verterokubottu: sorry about that :)14:26
ubottuError: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)14:26
jdobrienfacundobatista: I think that empathy use case is perfect...I wonder who wrote it? :)14:26
facundobatistathe share name so far is not "owned" by anybody14:27
verterokjblount: oh, ok. thanks!14:27
jdobrienfacundobatista, verterok: well obviously we can't just change it willy nilly since the syncdaemon will have to know how to deal with it14:27
facundobatistaverterok, jdobrien, the name is created by the person who creates the share, and we though that in the future the user who receives the share could change it14:27
facundobatistaverterok, jdobrien, what is not clear yet is if the name change should be propagated back to the person who creates the share or not14:28
verterokfacundobatista: good point14:28
jdobrienfacundobatista: the person who created the share never sees it14:28
facundobatistajdobrien, verterok: I don't understand which is the problem with the "name"... is somebody using it as a key or something?14:29
jblountThis name change thing seems like such a minor detail, is it important to worry about now?14:29
jdobrienfacundobatista: it has nothing to do with the originally shared folder14:29
jdobrienjblount: it's not really minor14:29
jdobrienjblount: but, we're not doing a major change right now...so we can't worry about it in this context14:29
facundobatistajdobrien, verterok: which is the *problem* with the name? Why there's an exception somewhere?14:32
jdobrienfacundobatista: there's the exception when someone shares something with you when someone gives you a share that has the same name as one of your existing shares14:34
jdobrienfacundobatista: i think the lack of control of the organization of what is shared with you is another issue14:34
jdobrienfacundobatista: but related14:34
facundobatistajdobrien, where's the exception?14:34
jdobrienfacundobatista: when you accept the share14:35
facundobatistajdobrien, and yes, we have a lack of control in a lot of functionality14:35
facundobatistajdobrien, but *where* is it? it's a db problem? web problem?14:35
jdobrienfacundobatista: lets dump that on the design kids14:35
jdobrienfacundobatista: the db enforces the constraint14:35
jdobrienfacundobatista: the web ui barfs14:36
* dobey ponders this code a little bit more14:38
jdobriensounds like something we can dump on the design kids too!14:38
jblountmattgriffin: I love it when you answer your own questions ;)14:41
mattgriffinhi beta testers. we have received a few questions about the age notice in the My Account area ("...have had an account for ..."). i added a LP Answer. please take a look at it and tell me if you think it is sufficient. https://answers.launchpad.net/ubunet/+question/74727 Thanks!14:42
facundobatistajdobrien, I don't remember why the DB does that... there should be a reason, that may be no longer valid14:42
mattgriffinjblount: hehe14:42
jblountmattgriffin: What say we just get rid of that text? We can reintroduce it for bragging rights later?14:42
jdobrienif there are duplicate share names, the web UI will break14:42
jdobrienfacundobatista: ^^14:42
mattgriffinjblount: no objections here14:43
Chipacagood morning!14:44
jblountI'll slip it into this branch that updates the terms, I've got a few coming down that are long overdue.14:44
dobeylookin' in my gucci, it's about that time15:01
jblountMorning Hackers! If you are here for the Ubuntu One Desktop meeting, say me (format is Done, TODO, Blocked, etcetcetc)15:02
jblountme15:02
rodrigo_me15:02
dobeyme15:02
CardinalFangme15:03
jblountCardinalFang, statik ?15:03
jblountDONE: FACE duty15:03
jblountTODO: Review day, hoping to squirrel away enough time to finish up a branch each to fix the terms of service and fix the buttons on the web ui to work more sanely15:03
jblountBLOCKED: Nope15:03
jblountrodrigo_: your turn !15:03
rodrigo_done: fixed CORBA issues on evo-couchdb, and had evo finally show the contacts from couchdb. Packaged newest upstream json-glib and couchdb-glib in my PPA15:04
rodrigo_todo: more evo-couchdb work and packages15:04
rodrigo_blocked: nothing, I won against CORBA :)15:05
rodrigo_dobey: your turn15:05
dobeyDONE: Fixed client build system issues, started share creation api move to syncdaemon15:05
dobeyTODO: finish moving share creation code to syncdaemon, review day15:05
dobeyBLCK: None.15:05
dobeyCardinalFang: nobody expects the spanish inquisition!15:05
CardinalFangDONE: Added tests for mailer replacement.  Fixed some existing tests.15:05
CardinalFangTODO: Transactions screw with test results; fixing those.  Commit something today.15:05
CardinalFangBLOCKED: Nope.15:05
CardinalFangETCETC: Must look to see how to run individual or classes of tests, without star15:05
CardinalFangting over.15:05
CardinalFangEOF15:06
CardinalFangjblount: that's all, yes?15:06
* jblount 's hand reaches for the EOM button15:06
dobeystatik: your roll15:07
statikI SUCK15:08
statiktoday i will be mostly panicking15:08
jblount(urbanape is out today, statik totally doesn't suck)15:08
statiklast night the database caught on fire during the rollout15:08
statikit all got fixed15:09
statikand i'm still chasing package definitions for karmic15:09
statikEOF15:09
statikanyone left?15:11
CardinalFangNope.15:11
jblountEND OF MEETING15:11
statikthanks guys for starting the meeting even though i was mia15:11
* statik cheers15:11
CardinalFangjblount: "MEET-NG BEGINS" so my IRC client notices.  statik makes me complacent.15:13
jblountCardinalFang: Noted, I couldn't page back to the last time statik did it because I was too chatty yesterday.15:14
* dobey wonders where the wireless card resides in his laptop, if there is in fact, a "card" for it15:27
pfibigerdobey: you probably need a microscope to find it15:31
jdobrienstatik: it's good that you've planned to panic15:32
statikjdobrien: some days you can just tell ahead of time, you know? ;)15:33
jblountDONTPANIC15:36
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dobeyok, off to lunch. bbiab16:00
* jblount notices that when the dog barks, my piano echoes. Sounds like a ghost.16:43
teknicojblount: it's probably not a digital piano, then ;-)16:44
jblountteknico: Nope, acoustic. It's from my wife's family, but sounds decent.16:47
thisfredwrapping up the sprint here, had a great and productive week17:04
* jblount lunches17:27
vadi2Would there be a possibility of sharing with non-ubuntu one users (just via a link to anyone, not email invitation) in the future?18:11
statikin the future, yes18:16
vadi2thanks18:16
harrydanceHi all18:22
harrydanceIs there any estimate on how long the queue is for an invitation?18:23
jblountharrydance: It's sort of longish now, and will get shorter soon :)18:24
jblountWe're still working on making sure the service scales, and have a lot of people interested, so it's taking some time, but we're inviting new groups of people every day.18:24
vadi2I just got invited after a month and a week ;)18:24
harrydanceOkay, thanks18:25
harrydanceItching to try this out :p18:25
fallleafnicksetup18:42
fallleafHad anyone already installed  Ubuntu ONe18:47
jblountfallleaf: A few people have. I have, for instance :)18:48
fallleafHow about this application? I think it is same as dropbox.18:49
fallleafno better than dropbox18:49
jblountfallleaf: It has a lot of similarities to Dropbox right now, we're planning some other stuff in the near future (like super awesome contacts syncing, bringin CouchDB to the desktop as a API for all your applications, screen sharing, etc)18:51
fallleafnow I am using ubuntu one, but network speed is slow, one function I think can been added18:53
fallleafwhen I move mouse to icon in the task bar, it only show "Ubuntu One:Working"18:54
fallleafI think it's better show percentage of upload18:54
jblountfallleaf: Good thought! We're planning on putting what files the client is working on, and progress meters, and move all of that to the messaging indicator.18:55
fallleafYes.  Another is Why not like dropbox have some promotion action,18:59
mattgriffinfallleaf: interesting idea19:02
fallleafso like me, will glad to introduce this application to others19:02
fallleafonly private invitation not enough19:03
mattgriffinfallleaf: how do you imagine this working? a taskbar option or control upload priority from nautilus?19:03
fallleafnow I use it only for backup files19:05
fallleafIt's safe  store on servers19:05
fallleafI like show on taskbar19:05
dobeyif it says "Working" then it's not uploading anything19:06
dobeyif it's uploading or downloading, it should say "Synchronizing"19:06
dobey"Working" means it's doing a local rescan or a server rescan, generally19:07
dobeywhich can be slow, yes19:07
dobeythere are some performance issues we're working on, and we hope to get them ironed out as soon as possible19:08
fallleafI confused, if it say "Working", I think it is uploading or downloading19:08
dobeyyes, "working" isn't a great description of what is going on19:09
dobeybut i can't think of a better term for the general "we're busy doing things" states, that aren't actually synchronizing or such19:10
fallleafand it say"working" about 2 hours since I copy some files inside19:10
dobeyand the applet is going away soon anyway19:10
dobeyfallleaf: then you've encountered a bug19:10
fallleafoh. I think "working" can change to "connecting"19:12
fallleafor "connected"19:12
fallleafLook:"Get extra space free,You can get up to 3GB of extra space free just for inviting your friends to Dropbox."19:13
dobeyif it's connected, it says "Idle" :)19:15
dobeyyes, we know how dropbox referrals work :)19:15
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* jblount has talked with 3 people so far, and hasn't even gotten his RMA setup yet.19:18
fallleafIf ubuntuone disconnect from network, the icon is better to become grey,19:19
fallleaficon marked "x", I think something wrong with my application19:19
fallleafif it's connected, and no uploading and downloading ,it's better to says "connected" :)19:19
dobeyit is the same as every other "offline" icon in gnome-icon-theme19:20
dobeyerrors use the error icon the (-) "do not enter" style icon19:21
dobeybut again, the applet is going away19:21
jcastrodobey: do you have .90.2 debs anywhere?19:21
dobeyjcastro: i uploaded 0.90.2 to REVU19:22
dobeyjcastro: so hopefully they will be uploaded into karmic soon19:22
jcastroyeah I saw that, I asked dholbach to review them for you19:23
jcastroI was hoping to get debs beforehand.19:23
dobeyoh, great. thanks19:23
jcastroI suppose I can build my own19:23
dobeymeh, i guess i need to change the packages and re-upload to revu :-/19:27
jcastrowelcome to peer review bud. :)19:27
dobeyhi urbanape19:28
urbanapeheya19:28
jonathonhello everyone19:28
jblountjonathon: hiya!19:28
jonathondoes anyone else have a blank icon for ubuntu-client-applet?19:29
jonathonsorry, let me rephrase that19:29
jcastrojonathon: yeah, I get a little square19:29
jonathondoes anyone else have a black icon in their system tray for ubuntu-client-applet, instead of the nice ubuntu logo?19:29
jcastrodobey: after that since it's binary NEW it'll go into another queue for the archive admins to look at it19:30
jcastrobut that's not so bad19:31
dobeyjcastro: yeah, not to mention that we keep debian/ in our bzr tree, so also need merge approval for it19:31
jblountjonathon: I think that gets fixed on logout / in19:32
jblountdobey: ^^ ?19:32
dobeyno, it should work fine straight away.19:33
jonathonjblout: hmm, i've tried rebooting, purging and reinstalling, and rebooting, it all stays the same. the only clues i have are errors when i run from a terminal19:33
dobeyi don't know why it would be broken though19:33
dobeywhat errors?19:33
jonathone.g. AttributeError: 'AppletIcon' object has no attribute19:33
dobeypastebin please19:34
jonathonhttp://pastebin.com/m111c4b9e19:35
jcastrodobey: I get the exact same thing19:37
dobeywhat version?19:38
jonathon0.90.2-0ubuntu1~r51-0 from dev; i had a problem on karmic which was fixed with a configglue update, but this broke instead. :D19:40
jonathonnot dev, nightly19:40
dobeyjcastro: with 0.90.2 for you too?19:40
* jdobrien can only get an Edge connection...much slower that G319:41
jcastrodobey: no I am using whatever is in the ppa19:41
jcastro.90.119:42
dobeyok19:42
dobeyjcastro: beta or nightlies ppa? nightlies has post-0.90.2 packages19:42
jcastrobeta19:42
jcastroI can try on nightlies19:42
dobeyhuh19:43
dobeyweird19:43
dobeyfile a bug and attach oauth-login.log please :)19:43
dobeyit looks like there could probably be a traceback getting trapped and sent to the log instead19:43
dobeybecause the only way that error could happen, is if there's something really whacky going on, causing the AppletIcon __init__ to screw up in the middle somewhere19:44
dobeybut somehow manage to not fail entirely19:44
jonathonforgive me, new to this. how and where?19:46
dobeyjonathon: http://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug19:46
jonathonI have the launchpad page, just the best method and how to find the oath-login19:46
dobeyjonathon: once you've filed the bug, it will show you a bug # on the resulting page, and you can run "apport-collect -p ubuntuone-client <that bug number>" in a terminal to have it attach the logs to that bug19:47
jonathonright19:47
dobeyjonathon: and just paste the error you see in the terminal in the bug description19:47
jonathoni'll give it a shot. :)19:48
jonathonah, just found oauth-login.log (good old locate)19:49
jonathonthis would likely be it: GError: Icon 'ubuntuone-client-working' not present in theme19:49
jonathonis this it? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/37172919:51
ubottuLaunchpad bug 371729 in ubuntuone-client "Icon cache not being updated" [Medium,Fix released]19:51
dobeythat could be it19:52
dobeybut i highly doubt it if jcastro is seeing the same problem with the older package19:52
jonathonok, i'll file a new bug19:52
jcastroI get it on the nightlies19:53
dobeyactually, wtf.19:53
jcastroon 2 machines, trying a third19:53
dobeyhrmm19:53
dobeyjcastro: i think 2 is enough :)19:53
jcastrodobey: I wonder if it's the theme, because on the third one it appears fine19:54
dobeyjcastro: no. the nightlies packages are broken19:55
jcastroyep, just noticed that19:56
dobeyas are the packages currently in beta19:57
* dobey gets out his stabbing knife19:57
jcastrojonathon: are you on karmic or jaunty?20:01
jonathonkarmic20:01
jcastroah, me too20:01
jonathoni've just done an apport thing to the bug i submitted20:01
jcastrojonathon: link?20:01
jonathonhttps://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+bug/38962720:01
ubottuLaunchpad bug 389627 in ubuntuone-client "Black icon in systray for ubuntuone-client-applet" [Undecided,New]20:01
* jcastro does the same20:02
dobeyeh20:02
dobeythe logs aren't needed20:02
jcastrook20:02
jcastroshould I triage and assign to you?20:02
dobeyi guess20:03
dobeyok, the beta package looks like it's only broken on karmic20:04
dobeyand the nightlies is broken on both20:04
jcastrojonathon: good catch!20:05
jonathonthanks :)20:05
dobeyoh i see why20:05
dobey** Message: Error: Inkscape encountered an internal error and will close now.20:05
dobeySegmentation fault20:05
dobeylovely :(20:05
dobeywell that explains karmic failure20:06
dobeyand nightlies failure20:07
rmcbridedobey: hmm so the package completed on the nightly ppa even though inkscape blew up?20:33
* rmcbride admits to not having the log open while he asks that20:33
dobeyrmcbride: and in the beta ppa20:33
rmcbrideHmm20:34
dobeyrmcbride: even just running inkscape without any arguments, gives me an immediate crash on karmic20:34
rmcbridenice20:34
dobeyis there a way to compare modification times of files?20:34
statikdobey: test -nt does it I think20:35
dobeywithout having to write perl/python/somethingonthatlevel that is20:35
dobeyah, so it does20:35
dobeynow why did when i search for modification in "man test" it did not point me at that20:36
dobeytoday has been so not very productive at all20:38
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dobeyhrmm20:46
dobeywhy is it trying to generate the icons at that point anyway20:46
dobeyrmcbride: blah. are we using bzr export for the nightlies tarballs?20:48
rmcbridedobey: no. Should we be?20:48
dobeyrmcbride: how are the tarballs being built in nightlies then?20:49
rmcbridedobey: one sec20:49
dobeyrmcbride: it looks like a bzr export to me revNN directory, and there's a .bzr subdirectory20:49
dobeybut maybe that's not an export, so much as just tarring up the directory20:49
rmcbridedobey: pasted a path from my other machine (too lazy to type it here) I'm mainly just doing debuild -S (with my signing key in teh environ)20:50
dobeyok20:52
rmcbrideI'm running autogen.sh for client beforehand20:52
rmcbrideas of yesterday20:52
rmcbrideif another method will work better I'll gladly switch.20:53
dobeyhrmm, i guess we should get the versioning argument resolved first20:57
dobeyi am so very close to just calling it a day21:00
dobeylater all21:46
BUGabundobye dobey21:46
BUGabundoand hi to everyone else21:47

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