gorgut | lo folks. I'm trying to adjust some X settings via an SSH session. can someone tell me the correct syntax to declare a display (or maybe i need a screen declaration?) in the following command line: 'xrandr --output LVDS --off" | 01:12 |
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gorgut | I assume it's something similar to "xrandr -d 0 --output LVDS --off" but I can't seem to get it nailed down | 01:13 |
TheSheep | gorgut: just export DISPLAY=:0 | 01:25 |
gorgut | TheSheep, then what is the correct syntax for the command line? | 01:26 |
gorgut | TheSheep, also, should I run "export DISPLAY=:0" locally on the machine I'm adjusting, or through my remote session? | 01:28 |
TheSheep | gorgut: you should run it in the same environment that the xrandr command | 01:32 |
gorgut | TheSheep, sweet. Thanks, man | 01:37 |
Raggs | hi all | 02:27 |
focus | hows it going everyone, I was wondering what the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu as far as configuration, should I clean install xubuntu, or can install it from apt? | 02:49 |
Raggs | focus as i understand it you can apt-get it | 02:53 |
focus | awesome, thanks. | 02:54 |
Raggs | apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i believe | 02:54 |
knome | Raggs is right. | 02:55 |
knome | !info xubuntu-desktop | 02:55 |
ubottu | xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.82 (jaunty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB | 02:55 |
Raggs | knome, it happens | 02:55 |
knome | it will install all the necessary packages | 02:56 |
knome | ;) | 02:56 |
focus | cool, thanks. | 02:56 |
knome | focus, if you want to erase all gnome packages at some point... | 02:56 |
knome | !purexfce | 02:56 |
ubottu | If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » | 02:56 |
Raggs | knome how long have you been running xubuntu? | 03:00 |
knome | exactly two years the day after tomorrow. | 03:01 |
Raggs | sweet | 03:01 |
knome | but been running ubuntu for ages and xfce under it also earlier than 2 years ago | 03:01 |
Raggs | you are an old hand then | 03:01 |
sirtoast | Hi folks, this the appropriate channel for some xubuntu assistance? | 03:02 |
knome | sirtoast, absolutely the best irc channel in the world. | 03:02 |
knome | Raggs, quite ;) | 03:02 |
sirtoast | awesome, bear with me, i haven't used ircII since approx 1993 | 03:02 |
knome | no problem | 03:02 |
sirtoast | I just did a system update on my xubuntu install, and when I log onto the Xfce desktop, i'm just getting a light blue background, it's not loading the desktop | 03:03 |
knome | right... | 03:03 |
knome | try moving ~/.cache to ~/.cache_backup | 03:04 |
sirtoast | testing now | 03:06 |
sirtoast | this truly is the best irc channel in the world:) | 03:06 |
Raggs | sirtoast, one of ;) | 03:06 |
knome | in the best three ;) | 03:07 |
Raggs | yes i am | 03:07 |
sirtoast | is there something I missed in the system upgrade that caused this, or is it just one of those things that I should keep in mind when upgrading the system files? | 03:07 |
knome | it's something that can happen when upgrading - or even without an upgrade sometimes. | 03:08 |
knome | did it work? | 03:08 |
sirtoast | it sure did | 03:08 |
knome | okay. good to hear. | 03:08 |
sirtoast | thanks again for the help knome! I'll keep pimping xubuntu at work | 03:14 |
knome | right :) | 03:14 |
knome | sounds good | 03:14 |
sirtoast | may pop back in for more social stuff rather than just pop in for free support:) | 03:14 |
Raggs | knome, of the buntus X is my favorite | 03:15 |
knome | Raggs, that's good to hear as well :) | 03:16 |
knome | we have done quite a work to set it up | 03:16 |
knome | (a secret: karmic will be even better) | 03:17 |
Raggs | i am not using Xubuntu atm | 03:19 |
knome | what really matters is that people are using a non-propietary os ;) | 03:20 |
Raggs | Debian here | 03:21 |
knome | debian is a really good distribution for servers | 03:21 |
Raggs | its a really good desktop as well | 03:21 |
knome | never used it as a desktop since... 2000 i think | 03:22 |
knome | eh, i think that was red hat and not debian | 03:22 |
Raggs | its a little better now | 03:22 |
knome | well, anyway ;) | 03:22 |
knome | the desktops sucked back then anyway | 03:22 |
Raggs | i run testing anyhow | 03:22 |
knome | testing is not bad either. | 03:25 |
Raggs | i like it | 03:26 |
knome | i don't mind risking some operability of my production machine, but karmic alpha is a bit too experimental :) | 03:27 |
Raggs | well i hope it goes well | 03:28 |
knome | it will go well, but it's still a long time to release | 03:28 |
Raggs | i should go to bed, but i am not yet | 03:30 |
Raggs | have to get up early | 03:31 |
knome | hah, if i'd had to get up early, i would be in problems. it's already 5:30 am. ;) | 03:31 |
Raggs | lol, 10:33 PM here | 03:33 |
tuv0k | Is there a xubuntu pulseaudio guide. Fresh install on a 754 chipset with onboard sound. I have no sound. | 06:19 |
knome | tuv0k, try uninstalling pulseaudio? ;> | 06:50 |
immo | REGISTER <pustefix13> <immo.weller@gmail.com> | 09:18 |
SiDi | hm :) | 09:18 |
SiDi | /msg chanserv register pustefix13 (or another password now :p) immo.weller@gmail.com | 09:19 |
immo | wrong? | 09:19 |
SiDi | i hope for you its not your gmail account password | 09:19 |
immo | checking... | 09:19 |
immo | its not | 09:23 |
premorphos | hey is there somebody pro on bluetooth solutions online? | 10:38 |
marcPV | hi there | 10:38 |
marcPV | anyone please, i deleted an user but i dont know how to delete his directories | 10:40 |
premorphos | i need a good working solution on how to brows file system on cell phones... ex bacing up contacts, other files and so on... | 10:42 |
premorphos | any one have a clue.. | 10:42 |
premorphos | have tried gammu wammu and xgnokii and they arent working | 10:43 |
premorphos | marcPV: have you tried as Root | 10:44 |
marcPV | sorry im little rookie here, tell me how pls | 10:45 |
premorphos | open terminal... go to the location of the subfolder and type sudo and give the delete comand and enter and root passwrd | 10:50 |
marcPV | thanks, let me try | 10:51 |
marcPV | sorry, whats the delete command for a folder? | 10:53 |
premorphos | rm -r but be cereful | 10:54 |
premorphos | ex rm -r foldername | 10:55 |
marcPV | "sudo rm r yag-kosha" is ok? i want to delete a folder inside "home" from an user that i deleted | 10:56 |
premorphos | no: sudo rm -r yag-kosha | 10:56 |
premorphos | but you need to move to home | 10:57 |
premorphos | home is not same as root | 10:57 |
SiDi | marcPV: sudo rm -rf /home/username (be careful this will delete everything forever) | 10:58 |
marcPV | ok, i go to folder home, open terminal there (/home) and type that? | 10:59 |
SiDi | premorphos: for your bluetooth problem | 10:59 |
marcPV | rm f or rm -rf? | 10:59 |
SiDi | marcPV: you can type it from anywhere | 10:59 |
SiDi | rm -rf | 10:59 |
marcPV | ok, thanks, let me try | 10:59 |
SiDi | which stands for "remove recursively and force deletion" | 11:00 |
marcPV | (hey, it works, thanks SiDi and premorphos for the support) | 11:01 |
premorphos | no prob... "my first help case".... im so proud... | 11:01 |
premorphos | im all ears sidi | 11:01 |
SiDi | premorphos: i dont know in xfce but with gnome-bluez i used to can mount my bluetooth phone's folders and then browse them | 11:02 |
SiDi | as far as i recall | 11:02 |
SiDi | premorphos: at worse you can google translate this page : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/bluetooth | 11:02 |
SiDi | it explains some methods for sending and receiving data | 11:02 |
SiDi | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/Docs | 11:02 |
SiDi | marcPV: you're welcome | 11:03 |
premorphos | il look at it... tnx | 11:11 |
pandi2456 | hi | 13:26 |
gabkdlly | hi | 13:27 |
pandi2456 | so quite in here :D | 13:30 |
pandi2456 | ello gab | 13:30 |
pandi2456 | very confuse what is the basic different between ubuntu and xubuntu beside the layout ? | 13:43 |
SiDi | its not exactly the layout. it's a different desktop environment. | 13:52 |
SiDi | Ours is lighter and faster, but it has less features | 13:52 |
pandi2456 | uhmm... features like open office ? or other apps? | 13:55 |
SiDi | you can get any ubuntu app in xubuntu | 13:56 |
tuv0k | pandi2456, pulseaudio is broken in xubuntu, but that is all | 13:57 |
tuv0k | I should have just installed ubuntu from alt cd THEN installed xbuntu-desktop | 13:58 |
slow-motion | hi | 14:03 |
SiDi | tuv0k: or install xubuntu from xubuntu's alt cd | 14:08 |
Ben_Cs | is there offtopic xubuntu chan? | 14:10 |
SiDi | #xubuntu-offtopic | 14:14 |
SiDi | but its empty | 14:14 |
pandi2456 | yeah | 14:14 |
Ben_Cs | so i'll ask a short question here | 14:21 |
Ben_Cs | do you use simultaneously python and perl? or only one of them. which one? | 14:22 |
Ben_Cs | ? | 14:30 |
premorphos | what can be wrong if i cant find my blue dongle with lsusb | 14:44 |
premorphos | i wuled kill to be able to brows my phones on my system | 14:45 |
premorphos | way is this so tricky | 14:46 |
pandi2456 | where is xubuntu place the temporary files ? | 15:03 |
tuv0k | so there is NO xubuntu pulseaudio wiki? or Fix? | 15:24 |
charlie-tca | xubuntu does not use pulseaudio by default | 15:25 |
tuv0k | hence my question | 15:25 |
charlie-tca | no, there is not, since it does not use it | 15:25 |
tuv0k | and does not provide an option for those that do. WHY is there even a xubuntu when ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop is not broken or depreciated? | 15:26 |
charlie-tca | It is a Ubuntu component, so you could use any Ubuntu pulseaudio help | 15:26 |
charlie-tca | If there was no Xubuntu, there would be no xubuntu-desktop | 15:27 |
tuv0k | lol, riiiight | 15:27 |
erik__ | hi all | 15:35 |
erik__ | i have a quick question | 15:35 |
charlie-tca | !question | erik__ | 15:37 |
premorphos | ok what is your q? | 15:37 |
ubottu | erik__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) | 15:37 |
Kangarooo | Hello from Latvia.. I Found one maybe big problem.. at leas for me.. :) I have Xubuntu and I allways liked save session on shutdown (yes Im shutting down computer) and I also like dropbox but its as I found only available if also installed nautilus but it won't take over.. ok but I some times started nautilus also and now my session is dirty- allways starting with nautilus as desktop manager.. how can I reset session or delete it? Applications -> Sett | 15:48 |
cody-somerville | You can delete .cache/session directory from your home directory to reset your session | 15:49 |
Kangarooo | whole folder or files in it? /home/kangarooo/.cache/sessions | 15:51 |
charlie-tca | whole folder, Kangarooo | 15:54 |
Kangarooo | in windows if I would delete folder then programm would ask in witch then save.. | 15:54 |
Kangarooo | ah ok :) | 15:54 |
Kangarooo | thanks :) | 15:54 |
charlie-tca | You are welcome | 15:54 |
premorphos | if i cant see a usb dongle in lsusb.... is there any way to fix this or shall i go shopping | 16:07 |
TheSheep | premorphos: check the cable, also look at dmesg | 16:15 |
premorphos | thesheep: tnx 4 your reply | 16:40 |
premorphos | sweet there it was... but what is dmesg?... | 16:43 |
premorphos | if i se my bluetooth dongle in dmesg... can i mount it so that i see it in my file system every time i pair a device? | 16:50 |
TheSheep | premorphos: bluetooth is not a disk | 16:58 |
TheSheep | premorphos: you can't see it in your filesystem | 16:58 |
TheSheep | premorphos: you see it as a network device | 16:59 |
lvr | how do i get transmission, rhytmbox and such icons back to the toolbar in xubuntu? i removed them by accident and don't know how to reverse it | 17:08 |
SiDi | do you mean the menu ? | 17:11 |
SiDi | or launchers in your panel ? | 17:11 |
slow-motion | right click on the bar "add new items" > "starter" | 17:11 |
TheSheep | I think he means system tray | 17:12 |
SiDi | oh | 17:12 |
TheSheep | it's called 'Notification area' | 17:12 |
SiDi | you removed the notification area off your panel, lvr ? | 17:12 |
lvr | SiDi is that what its called? i guess, then | 17:13 |
lvr | okay thanks got it back | 17:13 |
SiDi | np | 17:16 |
Araneidae | Is there any way I can stop xfce from saving my workspace? | 17:38 |
Araneidae | I know I can turn it off ... but it keeps turning itself back on again! Grrr | 17:39 |
SiDi | remove .cache/sessions | 17:39 |
Araneidae | In fact: "Automatically save session on logout" isn't set! Yet it just restored something... | 17:39 |
Araneidae | Thanks SiDi | 17:40 |
SiDi | it stops saving sessions | 17:40 |
SiDi | but it still restores the last saved one | 17:40 |
Araneidae | Hmm | 17:40 |
SiDi | badly designed feature, imo :p | 17:40 |
Araneidae | Where is the saved session saved? | 17:40 |
SiDi | its in ~/.cache/sessions normally | 17:40 |
Araneidae | Well, duly deleted ... we'll see what happens | 17:41 |
Araneidae | I dug a little deeper into my missing RAM | 17:41 |
Araneidae | I think I might need to try a PAE kernel! | 17:41 |
spaztik1 | hey guys, anyone know why the 3 finger salute wouldn't work to restart GDM? | 17:43 |
Araneidae | Hasn't that been turned off in recent *buntu updates? | 17:43 |
charlie-tca | Turned off in 9.04 | 17:43 |
Araneidae | Think you need to add Option "DontZap" "false" to xorg.conf | 17:43 |
spaztik1 | seriously? | 17:43 |
Araneidae | afraid so! | 17:43 |
Araneidae | Designed to protect the ... uh ... less able | 17:44 |
spaztik1 | bah, so i guess i should find a thread that is already bitching about this | 17:44 |
spaztik1 | well, how would one re-enable it | 17:44 |
spaztik1 | i'm assuming in the /etc/X11 files somewhere | 17:44 |
Araneidae | Just add the line 'Option "DontZap" "false"' to Section "ServerFlags" | 17:44 |
sml12261 | Can I run a 64 bit VM in a 32 bit OS? I do have a 64 bit CPU | 17:44 |
Araneidae | Can't imagine why not. | 17:45 |
charlie-tca | sml12261: don't believe it will work | 17:45 |
charlie-tca | It depends on the actual kernel you are using. If you installed a 32 bit kernel, it won't run 64bit kernel | 17:45 |
spaztik1 | sml12261, not sure, but one would presume if the vm cpu was 64 bit it might emu the arch? not sure if that falls back on the host cpu or not | 17:46 |
spaztik1 | Araneidae, is that to me? the DontZap? | 17:46 |
Araneidae | Sure | 17:46 |
Araneidae | The DontZap refers to C-A-Backspace | 17:46 |
spaztik1 | lol that's a funny config param | 17:46 |
Araneidae | sure, it's pretty odd. | 17:47 |
charlie-tca | spaztik1: see the release notes here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg | 17:47 |
Araneidae | It's in xorg.conf(5) | 17:47 |
sml12261 | I was planning on putting Virtual box on my 64bit Ubuntu and my 32 bit Vista so wanted to be able to move between the two. Think it would work? | 17:47 |
spaztik1 | so it's not an ubuntu thing, but rather an xorg preference? | 17:48 |
spaztik1 | or did the ubuntu guys change some xorg things? | 17:48 |
Araneidae | Suspect it might be an Ubuntu build preference, don't know though | 17:48 |
spaztik1 | well actually it makes sense that it's been in xorg for a while actually... i guess most distros just have it compiled with it enabled | 17:49 |
sml12261 | Why can't I get my normal nick?? It's annoying | 17:55 |
charlie-tca | did you register it? | 17:56 |
sml12261 | Nope | 17:56 |
charlie-tca | That is probably why then. Anyone else can use it | 17:57 |
sml12261 | nobody else is using it though so unless somebody registered it I don't get it | 17:57 |
charlie-tca | If someone else registered it, it is no longer available to you | 17:58 |
sml12261 | Well I doubt its registeredbecause this has happened before and the next time I get on I have my old one back | 17:58 |
sml12261 | Need to try to register to be sure | 17:59 |
sml12261 | I looked and found my regular nick and it says its me??? I'm only on 1 pc so not sure why this is happening. | 18:10 |
firecrotch | How can I stop xfwm4 without it restarting itself? I need to do this as a regular user, without using sudo. If I just kill xfwm4 it restarts itself | 18:11 |
sml12261 | Why do you need to do that? | 18:12 |
TheSheep | firecrotch: you can start a different window manager with --replace option | 18:13 |
firecrotch | TheSheep: I need there to be no window manager | 18:13 |
TheSheep | that's precisely what xubuntu avoids | 18:13 |
TheSheep | you can probably uninstall xfwm4 | 18:14 |
sml12261 | Go to services (i think thats where it is) xfwm4 is in there I think. Tell it to end it and that may work. Not in Xubuntu now so forget exactly how | 18:14 |
firecrotch | Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction - I found a setting that allows me to tell it to not restart when it's killed | 18:17 |
sml12261 | Where I can't remember if what Isaid was even close to right | 18:17 |
sml12261 | ? | 18:17 |
firecrotch | Applications -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup -> Session tab | 18:20 |
sml12261 | That is what I was thinking of just not remembering what it was. Thanks for letting me know. | 18:21 |
forces | saluton | 18:32 |
spaztik1 | firecrotch, you need to have a different startup script | 19:07 |
spaztik1 | like in your .xinitrc you can just start whatever you want | 19:07 |
davebot | Hello | 20:55 |
davebot | Can anyone help me? I am having an issue with my GUI. | 20:56 |
davebot | Basically, my tool bars that are normally at the top and bottom of my screen have disappeared and I was wondering how I could get them back. | 20:57 |
TheSheep | davebot: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' | 20:58 |
davebot | ah, thanks | 20:58 |
gsa1 | Hi | 21:45 |
gsa1 | A little question, after some reboot I lost the automatic starting of panels and so, each time I reboot I need to execute Alt+2 and xfce4-panel | 21:46 |
gsa1 | This is a know problem? Have some solution? | 21:46 |
TheSheep | gsa1: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' | 21:52 |
SiDi | gsa1, what GPU do you have ? | 21:54 |
SiDi | did the reboot include the latest kernel upgrade ? Do you know if you have proprietary drivers for this kernel , | 21:54 |
SiDi | Also, you can just add "xfce4-panel" in a file named .initrc, that'll do for now | 21:54 |
TheSheep | SiDi: I think it stays when you run it | 22:33 |
SiDi | not with a bug linked to mesa drivers | 22:34 |
SiDi | which breaks xfce4-session's launch | 22:34 |
TheSheep | uh | 22:38 |
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