[01:12] lo folks. I'm trying to adjust some X settings via an SSH session. can someone tell me the correct syntax to declare a display (or maybe i need a screen declaration?) in the following command line: 'xrandr --output LVDS --off" [01:13] I assume it's something similar to "xrandr -d 0 --output LVDS --off" but I can't seem to get it nailed down [01:25] gorgut: just export DISPLAY=:0 [01:26] TheSheep, then what is the correct syntax for the command line? [01:28] TheSheep, also, should I run "export DISPLAY=:0" locally on the machine I'm adjusting, or through my remote session? [01:32] gorgut: you should run it in the same environment that the xrandr command [01:37] TheSheep, sweet. Thanks, man [02:27] hi all [02:49] hows it going everyone, I was wondering what the difference between ubuntu and xubuntu as far as configuration, should I clean install xubuntu, or can install it from apt? [02:53] focus as i understand it you can apt-get it [02:54] awesome, thanks. [02:54] apt-get install xubuntu-desktop i believe [02:55] Raggs is right. [02:55] !info xubuntu-desktop [02:55] xubuntu-desktop (source: xubuntu-meta): Xubuntu desktop system. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.82 (jaunty), package size 15 kB, installed size 44 kB [02:55] knome, it happens [02:56] it will install all the necessary packages [02:56] ;) [02:56] cool, thanks. [02:56] focus, if you want to erase all gnome packages at some point... [02:56] !purexfce [02:56] If you want to remove all !KDE and !Gnome packages and have a default !Xubuntu system follow the instructions here « http://www.psychocats.net/ubuntu/purexfce » [03:00] knome how long have you been running xubuntu? [03:01] exactly two years the day after tomorrow. [03:01] sweet [03:01] but been running ubuntu for ages and xfce under it also earlier than 2 years ago [03:01] you are an old hand then [03:02] Hi folks, this the appropriate channel for some xubuntu assistance? [03:02] sirtoast, absolutely the best irc channel in the world. [03:02] Raggs, quite ;) [03:02] awesome, bear with me, i haven't used ircII since approx 1993 [03:02] no problem [03:03] I just did a system update on my xubuntu install, and when I log onto the Xfce desktop, i'm just getting a light blue background, it's not loading the desktop [03:03] right... [03:04] try moving ~/.cache to ~/.cache_backup [03:06] testing now [03:06] this truly is the best irc channel in the world:) [03:06] sirtoast, one of ;) [03:07] in the best three ;) [03:07] yes i am [03:07] is there something I missed in the system upgrade that caused this, or is it just one of those things that I should keep in mind when upgrading the system files? [03:08] it's something that can happen when upgrading - or even without an upgrade sometimes. [03:08] did it work? [03:08] it sure did [03:08] okay. good to hear. [03:14] thanks again for the help knome! I'll keep pimping xubuntu at work [03:14] right :) [03:14] sounds good [03:14] may pop back in for more social stuff rather than just pop in for free support:) [03:15] knome, of the buntus X is my favorite [03:16] Raggs, that's good to hear as well :) [03:16] we have done quite a work to set it up [03:17] (a secret: karmic will be even better) [03:19] i am not using Xubuntu atm [03:20] what really matters is that people are using a non-propietary os ;) [03:21] Debian here [03:21] debian is a really good distribution for servers [03:21] its a really good desktop as well [03:22] never used it as a desktop since... 2000 i think [03:22] eh, i think that was red hat and not debian [03:22] its a little better now [03:22] well, anyway ;) [03:22] the desktops sucked back then anyway [03:22] i run testing anyhow [03:25] testing is not bad either. [03:26] i like it [03:27] i don't mind risking some operability of my production machine, but karmic alpha is a bit too experimental :) [03:28] well i hope it goes well [03:28] it will go well, but it's still a long time to release [03:30] i should go to bed, but i am not yet [03:31] have to get up early [03:31] hah, if i'd had to get up early, i would be in problems. it's already 5:30 am. ;) [03:33] lol, 10:33 PM here [06:19] Is there a xubuntu pulseaudio guide. Fresh install on a 754 chipset with onboard sound. I have no sound. [06:50] tuv0k, try uninstalling pulseaudio? ;> [09:18] REGISTER [09:18] hm :) [09:19] /msg chanserv register pustefix13 (or another password now :p) immo.weller@gmail.com [09:19] wrong? [09:19] i hope for you its not your gmail account password [09:19] checking... [09:23] its not [10:38] hey is there somebody pro on bluetooth solutions online? [10:38] hi there [10:40] anyone please, i deleted an user but i dont know how to delete his directories [10:42] i need a good working solution on how to brows file system on cell phones... ex bacing up contacts, other files and so on... [10:42] any one have a clue.. [10:43] have tried gammu wammu and xgnokii and they arent working [10:44] marcPV: have you tried as Root [10:45] sorry im little rookie here, tell me how pls [10:50] open terminal... go to the location of the subfolder and type sudo and give the delete comand and enter and root passwrd [10:51] thanks, let me try [10:53] sorry, whats the delete command for a folder? [10:54] rm -r but be cereful [10:55] ex rm -r foldername [10:56] "sudo rm r yag-kosha" is ok? i want to delete a folder inside "home" from an user that i deleted [10:56] no: sudo rm -r yag-kosha [10:57] but you need to move to home [10:57] home is not same as root [10:58] marcPV: sudo rm -rf /home/username (be careful this will delete everything forever) [10:59] ok, i go to folder home, open terminal there (/home) and type that? [10:59] premorphos: for your bluetooth problem [10:59] rm f or rm -rf? [10:59] marcPV: you can type it from anywhere [10:59] rm -rf [10:59] ok, thanks, let me try [11:00] which stands for "remove recursively and force deletion" [11:01] (hey, it works, thanks SiDi and premorphos for the support) [11:01] no prob... "my first help case".... im so proud... [11:01] im all ears sidi [11:02] premorphos: i dont know in xfce but with gnome-bluez i used to can mount my bluetooth phone's folders and then browse them [11:02] as far as i recall [11:02] premorphos: at worse you can google translate this page : http://doc.ubuntu-fr.org/bluetooth [11:02] it explains some methods for sending and receiving data [11:02] https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bluetooth/Docs [11:03] marcPV: you're welcome [11:11] il look at it... tnx [13:26] hi [13:27] hi [13:30] so quite in here :D [13:30] ello gab [13:43] very confuse what is the basic different between ubuntu and xubuntu beside the layout ? [13:52] its not exactly the layout. it's a different desktop environment. [13:52] Ours is lighter and faster, but it has less features [13:55] uhmm... features like open office ? or other apps? [13:56] you can get any ubuntu app in xubuntu [13:57] pandi2456, pulseaudio is broken in xubuntu, but that is all [13:58] I should have just installed ubuntu from alt cd THEN installed xbuntu-desktop [14:03] hi [14:08] tuv0k: or install xubuntu from xubuntu's alt cd [14:10] is there offtopic xubuntu chan? [14:14] #xubuntu-offtopic [14:14] but its empty [14:14] yeah [14:21] so i'll ask a short question here [14:22] do you use simultaneously python and perl? or only one of them. which one? [14:30] ? [14:44] what can be wrong if i cant find my blue dongle with lsusb [14:45] i wuled kill to be able to brows my phones on my system [14:46] way is this so tricky [15:03] where is xubuntu place the temporary files ? [15:24] so there is NO xubuntu pulseaudio wiki? or Fix? [15:25] xubuntu does not use pulseaudio by default [15:25] hence my question [15:25] no, there is not, since it does not use it [15:26] and does not provide an option for those that do. WHY is there even a xubuntu when ubuntu with xubuntu-desktop is not broken or depreciated? [15:26] It is a Ubuntu component, so you could use any Ubuntu pulseaudio help [15:27] If there was no Xubuntu, there would be no xubuntu-desktop [15:27] lol, riiiight [15:35] hi all [15:35] i have a quick question [15:37] !question | erik__ [15:37] ok what is your q? [15:37] erik__: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [15:48] Hello from Latvia.. I Found one maybe big problem.. at leas for me.. :) I have Xubuntu and I allways liked save session on shutdown (yes Im shutting down computer) and I also like dropbox but its as I found only available if also installed nautilus but it won't take over.. ok but I some times started nautilus also and now my session is dirty- allways starting with nautilus as desktop manager.. how can I reset session or delete it? Applications -> Sett [15:49] You can delete .cache/session directory from your home directory to reset your session [15:51] whole folder or files in it? /home/kangarooo/.cache/sessions [15:54] whole folder, Kangarooo [15:54] in windows if I would delete folder then programm would ask in witch then save.. [15:54] ah ok :) [15:54] thanks :) [15:54] You are welcome [16:07] if i cant see a usb dongle in lsusb.... is there any way to fix this or shall i go shopping [16:15] premorphos: check the cable, also look at dmesg [16:40] thesheep: tnx 4 your reply [16:43] sweet there it was... but what is dmesg?... [16:50] if i se my bluetooth dongle in dmesg... can i mount it so that i see it in my file system every time i pair a device? [16:58] premorphos: bluetooth is not a disk [16:58] premorphos: you can't see it in your filesystem [16:59] premorphos: you see it as a network device [17:08] how do i get transmission, rhytmbox and such icons back to the toolbar in xubuntu? i removed them by accident and don't know how to reverse it [17:11] do you mean the menu ? [17:11] or launchers in your panel ? [17:11] right click on the bar "add new items" > "starter" [17:12] I think he means system tray [17:12] oh [17:12] it's called 'Notification area' [17:12] you removed the notification area off your panel, lvr ? [17:13] SiDi is that what its called? i guess, then [17:13] okay thanks got it back [17:16] np [17:38] Is there any way I can stop xfce from saving my workspace? [17:39] I know I can turn it off ... but it keeps turning itself back on again! Grrr [17:39] remove .cache/sessions [17:39] In fact: "Automatically save session on logout" isn't set! Yet it just restored something... [17:40] Thanks SiDi [17:40] it stops saving sessions [17:40] but it still restores the last saved one [17:40] Hmm [17:40] badly designed feature, imo :p [17:40] Where is the saved session saved? [17:40] its in ~/.cache/sessions normally [17:41] Well, duly deleted ... we'll see what happens [17:41] I dug a little deeper into my missing RAM [17:41] I think I might need to try a PAE kernel! [17:43] hey guys, anyone know why the 3 finger salute wouldn't work to restart GDM? [17:43] Hasn't that been turned off in recent *buntu updates? [17:43] Turned off in 9.04 [17:43] Think you need to add Option "DontZap" "false" to xorg.conf [17:43] seriously? [17:43] afraid so! [17:44] Designed to protect the ... uh ... less able [17:44] bah, so i guess i should find a thread that is already bitching about this [17:44] well, how would one re-enable it [17:44] i'm assuming in the /etc/X11 files somewhere [17:44] Just add the line 'Option "DontZap" "false"' to Section "ServerFlags" [17:44] Can I run a 64 bit VM in a 32 bit OS? I do have a 64 bit CPU [17:45] Can't imagine why not. [17:45] sml12261: don't believe it will work [17:45] It depends on the actual kernel you are using. If you installed a 32 bit kernel, it won't run 64bit kernel [17:46] sml12261, not sure, but one would presume if the vm cpu was 64 bit it might emu the arch? not sure if that falls back on the host cpu or not [17:46] Araneidae, is that to me? the DontZap? [17:46] Sure [17:46] The DontZap refers to C-A-Backspace [17:46] lol that's a funny config param [17:47] sure, it's pretty odd. [17:47] spaztik1: see the release notes here: http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/releasenotes/904#Ctrl-Alt-Backspace%20disabled%20by%20default%20in%20Xorg [17:47] It's in xorg.conf(5) [17:47] I was planning on putting Virtual box on my 64bit Ubuntu and my 32 bit Vista so wanted to be able to move between the two. Think it would work? [17:48] so it's not an ubuntu thing, but rather an xorg preference? [17:48] or did the ubuntu guys change some xorg things? [17:48] Suspect it might be an Ubuntu build preference, don't know though [17:49] well actually it makes sense that it's been in xorg for a while actually... i guess most distros just have it compiled with it enabled [17:55] Why can't I get my normal nick?? It's annoying [17:56] did you register it? [17:56] Nope [17:57] That is probably why then. Anyone else can use it [17:57] nobody else is using it though so unless somebody registered it I don't get it [17:58] If someone else registered it, it is no longer available to you [17:58] Well I doubt its registeredbecause this has happened before and the next time I get on I have my old one back [17:59] Need to try to register to be sure [18:10] I looked and found my regular nick and it says its me??? I'm only on 1 pc so not sure why this is happening. [18:11] How can I stop xfwm4 without it restarting itself? I need to do this as a regular user, without using sudo. If I just kill xfwm4 it restarts itself [18:12] Why do you need to do that? [18:13] firecrotch: you can start a different window manager with --replace option [18:13] TheSheep: I need there to be no window manager [18:13] that's precisely what xubuntu avoids [18:14] you can probably uninstall xfwm4 [18:14] Go to services (i think thats where it is) xfwm4 is in there I think. Tell it to end it and that may work. Not in Xubuntu now so forget exactly how [18:17] Thanks guys for pointing me in the right direction - I found a setting that allows me to tell it to not restart when it's killed [18:17] Where I can't remember if what Isaid was even close to right [18:17] ? [18:20] Applications -> Settings -> Sessions and Startup -> Session tab [18:21] That is what I was thinking of just not remembering what it was. Thanks for letting me know. [18:32] saluton [19:07] firecrotch, you need to have a different startup script [19:07] like in your .xinitrc you can just start whatever you want [20:55] Hello [20:56] Can anyone help me? I am having an issue with my GUI. [20:57] Basically, my tool bars that are normally at the top and bottom of my screen have disappeared and I was wondering how I could get them back. [20:58] davebot: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [20:58] ah, thanks [21:45] Hi [21:46] A little question, after some reboot I lost the automatic starting of panels and so, each time I reboot I need to execute Alt+2 and xfce4-panel [21:46] This is a know problem? Have some solution? [21:52] gsa1: press alt+f2 and type 'xfce4-panel' [21:54] gsa1, what GPU do you have ? [21:54] did the reboot include the latest kernel upgrade ? Do you know if you have proprietary drivers for this kernel , [21:54] Also, you can just add "xfce4-panel" in a file named .initrc, that'll do for now [22:33] SiDi: I think it stays when you run it [22:34] not with a bug linked to mesa drivers [22:34] which breaks xfce4-session's launch [22:38] uh