[00:03] <Alan_Lockwood> Hi
[00:03] <Alan_Lockwood> Does anyone know how to get "GLSL" in wine??
[00:07] <Alan_Lockwood> Does anyone know how to get "GLSL" in wine??
[00:08] <sebbar> is the error message that appears after each update ever going to be fixed? :)
[00:15] <ign0ramus> Alan_Lockwood, http://www.winehq.org/wwn/316 OR http://wiki.winehq.org/DirectX-Shaders
[00:15] <Alan_Lockwood> thx
[00:16] <ign0ramus> Alan_Lockwood, np :)
[00:22] <Dragnslcr> sebbar- the error about forking?
[00:23] <sebbar> Dragnslcr: yo that should be it
[00:23] <sebbar> Dragnslcr: any way to get rid of it?
[00:23] <Dragnslcr> It's fixed in 4.2.4. Can't remember if it was fixed in 4.2.3
[00:25] <Peti> Hi, I'm having some troubles with the NVIDIA 180 graphics driver. After installed, Kubuntu randomly freezes. Just a couple weeks ago, before I reinstalled Kubuntu, someone sent me a link to instructions of downloading and installing an updated NVIDIA driver that fixed this problem perfectly. Does anyone know that driver and how to apply it?
[00:25] <sebbar> Dragnslcr: is that the kde version? cause I'm running 4.3 beta... but I thought the update thing wasn't part of kde?
[00:27] <mubu> Hey guys, is there a way to search for files within multiple partitions (in ubuntu 9.04) like in windows? thanks
[00:28] <FloridaGuy> just added to ubuntu....     W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[00:28] <FloridaGuy> for kde 4.2.4
[00:28] <darkmatter_> mubu: good old locate
[00:29] <erpabro> hola
[00:30] <mubu> darkmatter how does that work?
[00:30] <darkmatter_> locate <filename>
[00:31] <mubu> darkmatter, but what if i dont know the exact filename?
[00:31] <darkmatter_> mubu: a part of it will do
[00:31] <darkmatter_> you may need to update the database first
[00:31] <darkmatter_> sudo updatedb
[00:32] <mubu> darkmatter thanks, worked like a charm!
[00:32] <FloridaGuy> for kde 4.2.4 in ubuntu...where do i get W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[00:33] <darkmatter_> mubu: good to hear
[00:33] <mubu> Though i find it ridiculous that the gui search function does not support searching within multiple drives, or atleast not without any trickery.
[00:33] <darkmatter_> which gui search?
[00:33] <sebbar> Floridaguy: gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /tmp/awn.keyring --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com --recv  2836CB0A8AC93F7A && gpg --no-default-keyring --keyring /tmp/awn.keyring --export --armor 2836CB0A8AC93F7A | sudo apt-key add - && rm /tmp/awn.keyring
[00:34] <darkmatter_> i prefer locate because it's instant
[00:35] <FloridaGuy> sebbar, not looking for awn.......need for kde 4.2.4
[00:35] <darkmatter_> someone should write a gui frontend for locate
[00:36] <mubu> darkmatter, "Places" then "Search for files"
[00:36] <PovAddict> I'm using Kubuntu Hardy, with KDE3.5
[00:36] <mubu> in ubuntu, dont know about kubuntu..
[00:36] <PovAddict> and compiz
[00:36] <sebbar> FloridaGuy: sorry dont get it...whats your problem?
[00:36] <PovAddict> looks like upgrading past hardy will simply get rid of KDE3 and replace it with KDE4
[00:37] <PovAddict> hardy has an old KDE4 available though... any suggestions to "progressively" upgrade so I can slowly get used to it?
[00:37] <darkmatter_> mubu: ok, there's a find function in dolphin too but i've never tried it
[00:38] <PovAddict> also, if I install, say, kopete-kde4, will it migrate my settings from my current 3.5 kopete? and if I upgrade to hardy+1 (whatever it's called), will it keep the settings too?
[00:38] <FloridaGuy> sebbar, i went here....   http://www.kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4   ..... added this for kde 4.2.4.....   deb http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/ppa/ubuntu jaunty main    ..... reloaded package manager and get this....    W: GPG error: http://ppa.launchpad.net jaunty Release: The following signatures couldn't be verified because the public key is not available: NO_PUBKEY 2836CB0A8AC93F7A
[00:38] <darkmatter_> mubu: i used google desktop once, but it wasn't without its issues
[00:39] <sebbar> FloridaGuy: yeah, copy the stuff I wrote above in a konsole and hit enter :)
[00:40] <PovAddict> I don't want to be stuck on an ancient version forever :(
[00:40] <FloridaGuy> sebbar, worked....srry about that...it said awn...so i thought you was giving me something for awn
[00:41] <Ahmuck> how do you close a "less sometext.txt" window in the terminal ?
[00:41] <kde185> Are there any PPA's that I can use to install a beta of KDE 4.3 alongside the default 4.2?  Or do I need to use SVN?
[00:41] <Dragnslcr> Ahmuck- q
[00:41] <PovAddict> Ahmuck: q
[00:42] <PovAddict> press h for help
[00:42] <Ahmuck> i've been closing dirty, via ctl-x, y, or z
[00:42] <PovAddict> less is a terribly useful thing
[00:42] <Ahmuck> who woulda thought it was a simple key
[00:42] <Ahmuck> been using ctl-| for closing other programs
[00:42] <Ahmuck> thx
[00:43] <sebbar> FloridaGuy: noprob, that command might actually have been used for something awn related originally :)
[00:44] <FloridaGuy> sebbar, ok.....   now kubuntu-desktop installing
[00:44] <PovAddict> I'm in Kubuntu Hardy; if I install, say, kopete-kde4, will it migrate settings/accounts from my current 3.5 kopete?
[00:45] <FloridaGuy> PovAddict, why not just upgrade the distro...  9.04 is alot faster and stuff
[00:46] <PovAddict> FloridaGuy: because I don't want to become useless for a week while I get used to KDE4
[00:47] <PovAddict> I'd like to upgrade "progressively" :)
[00:47] <FloridaGuy> ok
[00:47] <darkmatter_> PovAddict: kopete-kde4 will not replace kopete from kde3
[00:47] <PovAddict> darkmatter_: I know it won't replace
[00:47] <PovAddict> but will it take the kde3 settings or do I have to configure everything from scratch?
[00:47] <darkmatter_> if i remember correctly, the 2 versions of kde use different directories
[00:48] <PovAddict> yep
[00:48] <darkmatter_> .kde and .kde4?
[00:48] <PovAddict> but is there any setting migration between them?
[00:49] <darkmatter_> PovAddict: is it really that difficult to recreate your accounts?
[00:49] <PovAddict> not for kopete
[00:49] <PovAddict> but if every other app will do the same...
[00:50] <darkmatter_> depends on what you use
[00:50] <PovAddict> kopete, konversation (afaik there's no version for kde4 yet), kmail, akregator, konqueror (I want my bookmarks!)
[00:51] <jared555> is it possible to look at the most up to date versions of packages available for various releases of kubuntu/ubuntu?
[00:51] <darkmatter_> konversation is replaced with quassel
[00:52] <PovAddict> yeah so I don't mind having to set up my networks in quassel if it doesn't migrate from konversation
[00:52] <darkmatter_> it doesn't
[00:52] <PovAddict> but that *and* configuring email *and* manually migrating RSS feeds *and* manually migrating bookmarks *and* configure kopete... no thanks
[00:55] <coz_> anyone here running compiz ?
[00:58] <Dragnslcr> PovAddict- there are packages for the KDE4 version of Konversation
[00:59] <PovAddict> I won't take extra effort to install that
[00:59] <PovAddict> I think my question is pretty simple: do KDE4 apps read KDE3 settings (on first start or whatever)?
[01:00] <darkmatter_> PovAddict: i think it's safe to assume they don't
[01:09] <PovAddict> "After upgrading to 8.10 your .kde settings directory will be converted to KDE 4 settings, this means you will not easily be able to downgrade. The .kde4 directory from 8.04 KDE 4 Remix will not be used."
[01:09] <PovAddict> hmm that sounds interesting, however, I'd like a way to rollback :)
[01:10] <PovAddict> should do a full backup before upgrading, I guess
[01:10] <Walzmyn> PovAddict: just copy all your config files somewhere safe
[01:10] <Walzmyn> Anybody know how i can get the network manager to connect to my wireless without me feeding it the password every freaking time? this is really anoying
[01:10] <PovAddict> I have an external disk 10x bigger than the one with OS and /home
[01:11] <PovAddict> so I *can* do a full backup
[01:11] <Walzmyn> PovAddict: that should work :)
[01:11] <PovAddict> even more, my "main disk" (140GB) is divided in Ubuntu (40GB!) and Windoze (100GB)
[01:12] <PovAddict> I didn't give it enough space when I first installed Ubuntu :)
[01:12] <PovAddict> and nowadays I don't use the Windoze partition at all
[01:14] <burn_> PovAddict: kill em and give [k]ubuntu more space :d
[01:14] <PovAddict> burn_: or reinstall Kubuntu in my 1TB disk
[01:14] <burn_> 1tb !!
[01:16] <Walzmyn> I've got a hundred gigs spent on winders that I never use as well
[01:18] <Walzmyn> anybody using a yahoo chat with pidgin?
[01:20]  * PovAddict burns Kubuntu 8.10
[01:20] <PovAddict> from the command line! :3
[01:20] <davidjheinrich> wacom
[01:21] <darkmatter_> PovAddict: why not 9.04?
[01:21] <PovAddict> darkmatter_: because I have 8.04 and upgrade works one version step at a time
[01:21] <darkmatter_> 8.10 was incomplete in my opinion
[01:22] <darkmatter_> things like bluetooth were broken
[01:22] <PovAddict> bluetooth is "broken" on my machine, in a way
[01:22] <PovAddict> I uninstalled everything bluetooth-related since I don't have bluetooth hardware, and my system settings still show a 'Bluetooth' icon that opens a blank screen when clicked
[01:26] <darkmatter_> kde4 still hasn't reached the bluetooth functionality of kde3
[01:33] <luis_> o ubuntu é demais
[01:33] <luis_> is unknow
[01:34] <luis_> estoy só
[01:49] <redomondo> hello
[01:50] <redomondo> I am looking for some support with firefox on kubuntu 9.04
[01:50] <redomondo> how do I install the programÉ
[01:50] <redomondo> as well my àt symbol is not working properly
[01:51] <burn__> redomondo: start kpackagekit and type the name of rpogram
[01:52] <redomondo> how do I start kpackagekit
[01:52] <burn__> go K buttion > and in search [up part of K popup] and type kpack
[01:52] <waltzingalong> redomondo: one way would be to click on a shortcut to it from the menu
[01:52] <burn__> it will be shown in search
[02:00] <redomondo> now how about my shift+2 - or at symbol - my keyboard does not seem to bbe a standard us layout - I am a newbie...
[02:01] <redomondo> thanks for the kpack tip
[02:01] <redomondo> done and done
[02:01] <[buRn]> redomondo u must be choosen wrong keboard layout
[02:01] <redomondo> how do I switch
[02:01] <ign0ramus> redomondo, you can change keyboard layout in Regional & Language in System Settings
[02:02] <meng> hello?
[02:02] <ign0ramus> !hi
[02:02] <[buRn]> !hi I meng
[02:02] <[buRn]> :D
[02:03] <meng> well,my KDE4.2 runs no good
[02:03] <ign0ramus> [buRn], use the pipe (usually above Enter) not a capital 'i' :)
[02:04] <meng> 我的KDE4.2跑的很不平稳
[02:05] <meng> 为什么经常会死机呢？
[02:05] <ign0ramus> !cn | meng
[02:06] <redomondo> shift+2 is till giving me quotation marks -
[02:07] <redomondo> not the "at" symbol
[02:07] <Dragnslcr> redomondo- go to System Settings -> Regional & Language -> Keyboard Layout
[02:07] <redomondo> and select which layout?
[02:08] <meng> my amarok can't play mp3
[02:08] <Dragnslcr> Whatever kind of keyboard you have
[02:09] <Dragnslcr> If you have a standard keyboard, you can also try just disabling layouts (which is how mine is set)
[02:09] <meng> it just can play wma
[02:09] <ign0ramus> !mp3 | meng
[02:10] <meng> ok
[02:10] <meng> thank you
[02:10] <ign0ramus> you're welcome :)
[02:25] <[buRn]> why there are 4 blocked updates. kernel 2.26.15 or somenthing like that, + kernel headers? did i done that or default?
[02:27] <FloridaGuy> kde 4.2.4.....kubuntu 9.04.....system-settings...click on desktop...and system settings closes....everything eles in there works fine
[02:27] <ign0ramus> [buRn], it seems to be like that for many.  you can install with "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[02:29] <[buRn]> ign0ramus: what is better solution to install it or no? :d
[02:30] <ign0ramus> [buRn], that's up to you :)
[02:30] <ign0ramus> [buRn], the above command will pull in the necessary dependencies that are holding the upgrades back
[02:35] <[buRn]> i know :d
[02:35] <FloridaGuy> kde 4.2.4.....kubuntu 9.04.....system-settings...click on desktop...and system settings closes....everything eles in there works fine??
[02:36] <[buRn]> i used the kubutu for a long time, but new 9.04 have other options and this kpackage is hate me :D
[02:41] <carolija> hello
[02:41] <carolija> wich IM  have  web and sound
[02:41] <carolija>  ?
[02:48] <SteelR> what?
[03:19] <developer_php_br> hi
[03:20] <developer_php_br> have a developers of php here?
[03:35] <AndySpain> hi
[03:35] <AndySpain> I can't get my wifi running
[03:54] <linux> .
[03:56] <AndySpain> ??
[04:23] <lee_> ergg grrrr How do I reinstate the CRTL+backspace option, I really need it for my video settings in the ps3
[04:24] <lee_> and why did I get placed in kubuntu when I have Ubuntu?
[05:02] <manu_> i canot use any web aplication otherthan this on my system."Could not connect to host" error msg... anybody help???
[05:02] <yamishi> can someone help me with a problem i have with my desktop?
[05:04] <yamishi> my lil'bro "minimized" it so my desktop now looks like this http://imagebin.ca/view/qnK13Gwc.html but from my plasm control panel it looks like http://imagebin.ca/view/E5ajHe.html
[06:06] <doppelganger_> hi guys, i have a very easy problem, i'm just not....  very linux savvy just yet.  Can someone PM me right quick, i just you to read someone and tell me what it means
[06:06] <doppelganger_> need*
[06:06] <doppelganger_> something*  dang
[06:07] <doppelganger_> looks very simple to do, i just want to get it right.  I won't ask anything else if it gets complicated past that
[06:09] <bazhang> doppelganger_, just ask here
[06:11] <doppelganger_> ok, i was trying to refrain from looking like a jackass in front of others, buuut, lol
[06:12] <doppelganger_> anyways, trying to get my creative card working, and i found some easy instructions, i just need them interpreted:  http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1115910
[06:13] <doppelganger_> i'm in the file "ctdrv.h" that it's mentioning, which says this: http://pastebin.ca/1467199
[06:14] <doppelganger_> and i'm wondering what i put where in that file (at the bottom of that pastebin i put my lspci result, and i'm wondering what to plug where in the file above it)
[06:15] <adccad> hi
[06:15] <bazhang> doppelganger_, compiled anything before?
[06:16] <doppelganger_> barely....  but i have those instructions on another page
[06:16] <bazhang> https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware doppelganger_ here is a starter
[06:16] <doppelganger_> i just need to know what to plug in to that file i put in pastebin, like in what lines, and exactly what from the lspci am i plugging in there
[06:18] <commander_> does anyone have cairo dock on here?
[06:31] <doppelganger_> bazhang: did you get a chance to read over that pastebin file i posted?
[06:31] <doppelganger_> i'm so close to figuring this out i can taste it  =p
[06:32] <bazhang> doppelganger_, yes; just looking for other possible solutions on the forums
[06:32] <doppelganger_> oh ok, ty man.  just real quick, what is it wanting me to put where in that file i put up?  if i can figure that out i can definitely compile it and try it out
[06:33] <root> new bi
[06:38] <alex_> Does anyone here know if after you install the ubuntu server if you should have GUI or if it is all command based?
[06:39] <alex_> I've never used a linux server before so was unsure if there is supposed to be a GUI that loads after you login
[06:42] <bazhang> doppelganger_, there is also a suggestion of using the OSS driver, which comes in the form of a deb.
[06:49] <doppelganger_> bazhang:  installing, we'll see how she works
[06:50] <bazhang> doppelganger_, good luck
[06:50] <bazhang> doppelganger_, can't stick around, will be back later :)
[06:56] <commander_> hello
[06:56] <commander_> does anyone have cairo dock in kubuntu
[07:28] <michael> hello
[07:33] <dabbler> i have 4 kernel updates held back ... anyone know why?
[07:35] <mcrandello> those updates will break something, trust me you dont want em
[07:35] <mcrandello> j/k
[07:35] <dabbler> lol
[07:36] <mcrandello> anyone know what this error means (trying to get a midi usb controller working): usb 2-4: device descriptor read/64, error -62
[07:37] <mcrandello> tried several USB ports on the desktop, front/back, 1.2 2.0
[07:37] <mcrandello> always the same
[07:40] <dabbler> i have some flashdrives that work under Linux...and some that don't
[07:40] <dabbler> some mount readonly
[07:40] <dabbler> oops...midi  :)
[07:41] <dabbler> that i don't know
[07:41] <mcrandello>  it's strange though, it was detected in older versions
[07:42] <mcrandello> it's way before the midi issue, this is like USB going "nope, sorry, don't feel like giving you an address"
[07:42] <mcrandello> 'talk to the hand" '_'
[07:42] <mcrandello> grr
[08:23] <dabbler> !help
[08:24] <dabbler> !quassel
[08:27] <Steil> does kopete support webcam?
[09:14] <pawel> hey is there any image viewer in KDE that would use some nice compiz effects? - something like picasa preview in windows u just click image in file browser and it smoothly fills up your desktop with just 2 arrows to see next images
[09:24] <checho> hi
[09:28] <pawel> hey is there any image viewer in KDE that would use some nice compiz effects? - something like picasa preview in windows u just click image in file browser and it smoothly fills up your desktop with just 2 arrows to see next images
[09:36] <checho> spanihs¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¿¡
[09:36] <checho> spanish?
[09:44] <|Ryan> Can anyone help me? I can't get Amarok to play my MP3, how can I enable it to?
[10:11] <swatto> hello all, please could someone help me, I did an update last night to the kubuntu and now when i start I only get the command line and I cant start kde
[10:11] <swatto> to kubuntu*
[10:11] <pawel> to kubuntu from what
[10:12] <studiodude> Hi
[10:12] <swatto> in kubuntu the update manager came up so i installed the updates but also there were 4 blocked updates which i did with the dist upgrade option but now i try and start kubuntu it doesnt load kde
[10:12] <swatto> it says displayis not set or cannot connect to the x server
[10:13] <pawel> btw guys why updates get blocked?
[10:13] <studiodude> this is my first time here - is it ok to ask a question? Iḿ not sure how this works - lol -sorry
[10:18] <refic> studiodude: sure, go ahead and ask :)
[11:33] <andy__> Hello!
[11:34] <andy__> Can anybody help my getting my laptop's wifi to work with kubuntu?
[11:43] <jillsmitt> my kde windows with lines..
[11:43] <bazhang> what video card jillsmitt
[11:44] <jillsmitt> ati radeon X1200
[11:45] <jillsmitt> can i fix it, bazhang?
[11:46] <bazhang> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1135343 jillsmitt I'm just reading this
[11:49] <jillsmitt> ATI Catalyst driver which no longer supports "legacy" cards
[11:49] <bazhang> jillsmitt, are you using the open source or the propietary drivers; that seems to be the main issue (ie you should use the open source for that card)
[11:49] <bazhang> err proprietary
[11:49] <jillsmitt> bazhang: i use only from installation 904 drivers
[11:49] <jillsmitt> i mean i just install my kubuntu
[11:50] <jillsmitt> from 700 CD
[11:50] <bazhang> jillsmitt, from hardware drivers? ie the non-open source ones?
[11:51] <jillsmitt> bazhang: i guess there is no proprietary drivers after CD-installed
[11:52] <jillsmitt> it good, fast & i dont use compiz, but lines on windows...
[11:53] <bazhang> what does fgl_glxgears show in konsole
[11:53] <jillsmitt> its not installed yet
[11:54] <jillsmitt> this is new driver pack?
[11:54] <bazhang> so no fglrx then
[11:55] <jillsmitt> ok, they must tell it in welcome screen or something
[11:56] <jillsmitt> bazhang: E: Couldn't find package fgl_glxgears
[11:57] <bazhang> jillsmitt, what about pasting a screenshot to imagebin
[11:57] <bazhang> !imagebin
[11:58] <jillsmitt> bazhang: lines of window or terminal lines?)
[11:58] <jillsmitt> E: Couldn't find package fgl_glxgears - why?
[11:59] <bazhang> jillsmitt, err sorry
[11:59] <bazhang> just type fgl_glxgears in terminal (dont apt-get it)
[12:00] <bazhang> jillsmitt, the window lines
[12:00] <jillsmitt> bazhang: The program 'fgl_glxgears' is currently not installed
[12:00] <bazhang> jillsmitt, so you must be using the radeonhd then (open source driver)
[12:00] <jillsmitt> what the package name?
[12:00] <jillsmitt> ok
[12:01] <bazhang> you running compiz or not/ or other 3D effects
[12:01] <jillsmitt> ? emm no
[12:01] <bazhang> odd
[12:02] <zer0o> whatz a good cd/dvd burner software?
[12:04] <Limette> zer0o: try X-CD-Roast
[12:05] <bazhang> info x-cd-roast
[12:05] <bazhang> whoops
[12:05] <bazhang> !info x-cd-roast
[12:06] <bazhang> Limette, that is not a repo package
[12:06] <zer0o> what about this X-CD-Roast? how's it?
[12:07] <jillsmitt> http://imagebin.org:80/53111
[12:07] <jillsmitt> there is
[12:07] <zer0o> is it in the repos?
[12:07] <jillsmitt> bazhang: http://imagebin.org:80/53111
[12:10] <jillsmitt> bazhang: fny ideas?
[12:10] <jillsmitt> any*
[12:10] <bazhang> jillsmitt, just checking now
[12:12] <Mamarok> zer0o: use k3b, it works perfectly well here
[12:14] <zer0o> Mamarok: im sorry but the answer is NOT AT ALL, dunno if u remember me for 3 days here trying to figure out what was wrong with my burner that a certain point was read-only, i didn't have the root permissions anymore to write or even to read!! not even if launched by sudo... well, once unistalled k3b its working perfectly...
[12:15] <Grabugadoci> Salut à tous :)
[12:16] <poi1> I am trying to get relakks anonomy ip work with ubuntu does anybody know
[12:17] <bazhang> jillsmitt, there is a ppa for that; you can read about it here : http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1164013
[12:18] <zer0o> theres this friend of mine whose keyboard "emits typing sounds" when he types on x-chat, du have any idea why??? :D
[12:18] <poi1> i am a beginner and i would need instructions :)
[12:18] <jillsmitt> what is "ppa", bazhang?
[12:18] <poi1> its a vpn connection
[12:18] <bazhang> !ppa | jillsmitt
[12:21]  * jillsmitt ppa
[13:12] <studiodude> has anybody any experience with peripherals working with one app but not another?
[13:12] <XVampireX> hello
[13:13] <XVampireX> I am on live mode on my laptop, it seems like it recognized my wifi
[13:13] <XVampireX> but for some reason I can't connect to my own router...
[13:14] <XVampireX> can anyone help please?
[13:16] <cinex> ??
[13:16] <cinex> live mode ?
[13:16] <XVampireX> I can't connect to my own network....
[13:16] <XVampireX> yeah, like from CD
[13:16] <cinex> k
[13:16] <cinex> what wifi card do u have?
[13:16] <XVampireX> no idea
[13:16] <cinex> lspci
[13:17] <cinex> and find it in the output
[13:17] <cinex> (lspci is a command)
[13:17] <XVampireX> 03:00.0 Network controller: Intel Corporation Wireless WiFi Link 5100
[13:17] <XVampireX> I know :D
[13:17] <cinex> k
[13:17] <cinex> just assuming your stupid :P
[13:18] <makuseru> Can someone help me enable wireless on a HP G60 with a Atheros AR5007EG(AR242x) card. I've tried everything but can't get it to work.
[13:19] <XVampireX> so what do you say?
[13:19] <cinex> XVampireX: i dunno, i was googling but nothing jumps up.
[13:19] <XVampireX> it gives me password notification, I input my password but nothing, it tells me it failed to connect
[13:19] <cinex> maybe you need ndiswrapper, maybe u dont
[13:19] <cinex> maybe u need the firmware files
[13:19] <cinex> does it come up in the hardware drivers app (under system)
[13:20] <cinex> XVampireX: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=965516
[13:20] <XVampireX> what do you mean exactly?
[13:21] <cinex> says to get firmware
[13:21] <cinex> firmware files are from the driver files... you cant work without them most of the time
[13:21] <cinex> read that post anyway
[13:23] <XVampireX> it's intrepid though
[13:23] <cinex> so?
[13:23] <cinex> perhaps the firmware is proprietry
[13:23] <HalphaZ> j #kde
[13:24] <XVampireX> I can see networks... I'm connected through wireless, just not to my own router...
[13:24] <cinex> but it needs firmware, so get it :P
[13:24] <XVampireX> how do you know?
[13:24] <BluesKaj> Howdy
[13:24] <cinex> did u read the post?
[13:25] <cinex> hi BluesKaj
[13:25] <XVampireX> well, kinda...
[13:25] <XVampireX> but it's rather old now, no?
[13:25] <cinex> only kinda?
[13:25] <XVampireX> it's old
[13:25] <BluesKaj> hi cinex
[13:26] <cinex> ow old?
[13:26] <cinex> and what version of ubuntu is it for?
[13:30] <cinex> hmmmmmmmmm
[13:30] <cinex> cool
[13:31] <makuseru> Can someone help me enable wireless on a HP G60 with a Atheros AR5007EG(AR242x) card. I've tried everything but can't get it to work.
[13:31] <studiodude> hi, trying to find out why my web cam is seen by one app but not another - can anybody give me a starting point to diagnose?
[13:31] <cinex> what modules do u have loaded makuseru ?
[13:31] <makuseru> cinex: Im not sure, how can I find out.
[13:32] <cinex> makuseru: u on jaunty?
[13:32] <makuseru> Yes,
[13:32] <cinex> makuseru: http://209.85.229.132/search?q=cache:YQIjf79O_ckJ:www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html+Atheros+AR5007EG(AR242x)+ubuntu+jaunty&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=uk&client=opera
[13:32] <cinex> try that
[13:33] <makuseru> Tried it, didnt work.
[13:34] <makuseru> I was able to do method 1, but after the final step(the make load) nothing happened.
[13:34] <makuseru> And i tried method 2, but it couldnt find the backports package.
[13:34] <cinex> u compiled your own drivers?
[13:35] <makuseru> I did just what method one on that page says.
[13:35] <makuseru> And it went through it all with no error.
[13:35] <cinex> did u reeboot?
[13:36] <makuseru> No, i didnt see where it said to.
[13:36] <makuseru> Should i reboot?
[13:36] <cinex> you'd need to reeboot, to reload in the new drivers an unload the old ones
[13:36] <cinex> u could do it by hand but its prolly easier to reeboot
[13:37] <makuseru> Ok, well im going to reboot real quick then.
[13:37] <cinex> kk
[13:40] <makuseru> cinex: Still nothing
[13:41] <cinex> well it said to unblacklist ath5k
[13:41] <cinex> i dunno
[13:41] <cinex> u could try using wicd to connect
[13:41] <cinex> well it said to unblacklist ath5king is pretty crap i think
[13:41] <cinex> the widget thing is pretty crap i think***
[13:41] <cinex> <-- needs coffe
[13:42] <makuseru> The wireless isnt even showing up as an interface in "network settings"
[13:42] <cinex> sudo modprobe athk5
[13:42] <cinex> run that command
[13:42] <makuseru> cinex: "FATAL: Module athk5 not found."
[13:43] <cinex> so then u haven't compiled the latest athk5 module
[13:43] <cinex> http://www.ubuntugeek.com/how-to-get-atheros-ar5007eg-or-ar242x-wireless-cards-may-be-other-models-working-in-ubuntu-810-intrepid-ibex.html
[13:44] <makuseru> I just did that.
[13:44] <cinex> hmm
[13:45] <BluesKaj> i have to ask makuseru , which kubunru version are you using ?
[13:45] <makuseru> I9.04
[13:45] <BluesKaj> makuseru, do you have the network manager widget installed ?
[13:46] <makuseru> I dont believe so.
[13:47] <cinex> meh
[13:47] <makuseru> Is it knetworkmanager?
[13:47] <makuseru> If so i do have that.
[13:47] <BluesKaj> is there an icon that looks unplugged
[13:47] <BluesKaj> in the panel
[13:48] <makuseru> No.
[13:48] <BluesKaj> no knetworkmanager is no longer the default for jaunty
[13:49] <makuseru> What is the package name for the new oen?
[13:49] <BluesKaj> it's now known as network management , and if you click on add widgets , scroll down to a stylized  blue "N" and choose that
[13:50] <makuseru> Where is add widgets?
[13:50] <makuseru> I think thats just a kde4 thing.
[13:50] <makuseru> Isnt it?
[13:50] <jillsmitt> bazhang: just finished
[13:51] <bazhang> jillsmitt, okay?
[13:51] <jillsmitt> bazhang: dunno)... testing
[13:52] <BluesKaj> makuseru, not using plasma ?
[13:52] <jillsmitt> NO
[13:52] <bazhang> jillsmitt, hmm
[13:52] <makuseru> BluesKaj: No, KDE3 remix.
[13:52] <jillsmitt> bazhang: i have a lines
[13:53] <jillsmitt> bazhang: it is like frame errors
[13:53] <BluesKaj> now he tells us ... ok , knetworkmanager it is then
[13:53] <bazhang> jillsmitt, worse than before? or about the same
[13:53] <makuseru> Sorry, if i had known it was important i would have mentioned it.
[13:53] <BluesKaj> very important
[13:54] <jillsmitt> bazhang: the same stuff
[13:55] <jillsmitt> bazhang: i left about 3-4 hours, thanks for help
[13:55] <bazhang> jillsmitt, not sure what else to advise; I have an nvidia card
[13:55] <BluesKaj> sry, i haven't used wifi with kde3 , so I'm out of the game ..\
[13:55] <cinex> will need a module somewhere
[13:56] <BluesKaj> makuseru, check this out http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1144815
[13:58] <cinex> he's already done that BluesKaj
[13:58] <BluesKaj> recommend you switch to kde4 , makuseru
[13:58] <makuseru> I would if it wasnt so horrible to use.
[13:58] <BluesKaj> it'll make life easier for wifi at least
[13:59] <makuseru> Buy internet is pretty useless when you cant even use the interface.
[13:59] <BluesKaj> i find it works fine now ...I was reluctant to try it at first , but it's stable and mature now , IMO
[14:00] <BluesKaj> kde4 that is
[14:02] <ActionParsnip> BluesKaj: i find it laky and dropped i like is hot
[14:03] <nicole_> could i create a parttion, put the files fro a recovery disc there, make the partition bootable and recover from there?
[14:04] <BluesKaj> we all have to deal with issues of some sort , mine was amarok and konverstaion at first , but now I've got the new versions working the way i like, so it's not a biggie with me any more
[14:05] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: if you have bootale info there,  dont see whynot. You could put the iso on there and use lilo instead of grub too
[14:06] <ubuntu_> nicole_: should work - you might haaaave to edit fstab
[14:07] <nicole_> please help me out, im no thatt good at this
[14:07] <nicole_> im on a toshiba nb100 without cdrom
[14:07] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: then research, what you are wanting to do could get highly complex
[14:07] <ubuntu_> nicole_:  earsier: just a new install, home separate partition, get home data from the backup
[14:08] <nicole_> ActionParsnip: ive been on this quest 5 days now
[14:08] <studiodude> when i click on a link from here i get taken into quanta instead of konqueror, how did that happen and how do i change the link  association?
[14:09] <nicole_> ubuntu_: what do u mean by home separate partition, there is no backup drive eiher as in other laptops
[14:09] <ubuntu_> nicole_: I have at least three patitions on new installs: boot root home
[14:10] <ActionParsnip> nicole_: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=774539
[14:10] <nicole_> ubuntu_: i want to recover xp
[14:11] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: i map /home to my fileserver ;)
[14:11] <ubuntu_> nicole_: I only bother to restore home, and selected files from /etc on disk failure
[14:12] <BluesKaj> nicole_, booting directly into kubuntu ar startup ?
[14:12] <ubuntu_> nicole_: then forget what we wrote here - with xp you need a very good backup/retore program like acronis
[14:12] <BluesKaj> at
[14:13] <nicole_> ubuntu_: i dont want to hve kubuntu on his pc, its my sis it crashed an refused to tartm i installed kubuntu and ersed the drive but i cant install xp anymore
[14:13] <ubuntu> hello
[14:13] <ubuntu> my name is alberto..
[14:13] <ubuntu> Im from Mexico..
[14:13] <ubuntu> :)
[14:13] <nicole_> BluesKaj: iam booting directly into kubuntu at atart up alredy
[14:13] <redomondo> I am trying to add the flash download to the firefox I am running - any ideasÉ
[14:14] <BluesKaj> !grub | nicole_,
[14:14] <ubuntu_> nicole_: no xp install disc?
[14:14] <nicole_> BluesKaj: thanks, but that is ot what i need
[14:15]  * BluesKaj tries to figure what nicole ids trying to do
[14:15] <nicole_> ubuntu_: this pc has no cdrom, it comes along with a disc bu its not of much help as i dont have a usb cdrom
[14:16] <redomondo> hello - I am also attempting to install programs that I have downloaded, but I can use the kpackagekit to browse to their location - any Ideas?
[14:16] <ubuntu_> nicole_: without you ARE really lost - sorry...
[14:17] <BluesKaj> redomondo, what are the program file extensions ?
[14:17] <nicole_> is it possible to put the file froma xp recovery disc, into a partition in the ahrddrive, make th hardrive bootable and recover from there instead from the cdrom?
[14:17] <redomondo> tar.gz
[14:18] <BluesKaj> !tar.gz | redomondo
[14:18] <redomondo> I also have a .zip driver for my video card
[14:18] <ubuntu_> nicole_:  NO - you need to boot from something (USB), Windows PE _could_ help but that is also very tricky
[14:19] <ubuntu_> borrow a USB CD drive!
[14:19] <nicole_> ubuntu_: noone i know ownes one
[14:20] <redomondo> unzipped, now how do I runt therogram?
[14:20] <BluesKaj> i wish you "ubuntu" guys would change your nicks to something different ...it's confusing
[14:22] <christian_> hey any1 knows, how to remove amaroks 2.1 perma markers?
[14:23] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj: just testing Karmic in a VM and trying to help nicole sorry - I'm gone in a few minutes
[14:23] <nicole_> ubuntu_: i have a bootsble usb with a normal xp installation in it, however the installation fails, i would need to make the usb bootable but put anyfiles in it but i dont know how
[14:25] <ubuntu_> nicole_: you NEED a _running_ XP (or other MS OS) to install XP
[14:26] <nicole_> i have non on this pc
[14:26] <nicole_> ubuntu_: im fucked
[14:27] <ubuntu_> yes -
[14:27] <bazhang> nicole_, no cursing
[14:27] <BluesKaj> nicole_, is your pc, usb device boot capable
[14:27] <nicole_> bazhang: sorry, im f#¤%&#
[14:28] <nicole_> BluesKaj: yes it is, that is how i managed to install kubunto in it, i run kubuntu live cd in another pc, created a usb boot kubuntu, and the restarted this pc with the usb in ti
[14:28] <cinex> lol, u dont need a previous version of windows installed to install XP, not unless u have an upgrade disk
[14:29] <nicole_> BluesKaj: but when i try t do the semawith a usb boot xp isntallation, it fails
[14:29] <nicole_> BluesKaj: i get a blue scree asking me to check errors i the drive, but i ahve no errors
[14:30] <ubuntu_> nicole_: windows works differently than linux - you will not succeed the linux way
[14:30] <BluesKaj> well then, use the usb to install windows on a different partition that's been formatted to ntfs
[14:30] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj: same hardware to get the hal right ;-)
[14:31] <nicole_> ubuntu_: thanks, i know. but rebooting from a usb with xo in it works fine,
[14:31] <ubuntu_> don't even bother with activation and SUID
[14:31] <BluesKaj> ubuntu_, dunno if I've ever heard of installing windows from a usb pen drive TBH :)
[14:31] <nicole_> BluesKaj: i have tried that but the installation fails
[14:32] <nicole_> BluesKaj: i mean, 5 days ago when this pc had xp in it, i restatrted it wih a usb-xp that i hd created, it booted from the usb, and aked m what i wanted to so, the the loading files of xp started but i get a blue screen 0x000007b
[14:33] <BluesKaj> cdroms are pretty cheap these days...recommend you buy one for 35bucks US
[14:34] <ubuntu_> nicole_: or get a USB to IDE/SATA adapter for 20 EUR and use a drive from a desktop PC
[14:34] <nicole_> very stupidt thing of seeling a pc without a cdrom if u need one to reinstall
[14:35] <BluesKaj> It will solve your install problem , nicole_
[14:35] <ubuntu_> nicole_:  that's why I only use Windows when forced to ...
[14:35] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: all drives have IDEs ;)
[14:35] <nicole_> ubuntu_: so do i but this is my sis lapotp
[14:36] <ubuntu_> ActionParsnip:  mine not -I have SATA, IDE SCSI, SAS, ...
[14:36] <nicole_> BluesKaj: yeah buying is my last option that should work, this us to sata is just a cable eh? i might do my own in that case
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: ide == integrated drive electronics,
[14:36] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: its a common mistake, you mean parallel ata when you say ide
[14:37] <ActionParsnip> ubuntu_: old drives had no controller on them and relied solely on the controller for control, Thats why your drive has a few mb cache
[14:37] <BluesKaj> nicole_, dunno , ubuntu_ suggested that
[14:38] <nicole_> BluesKaj: http://www.google.cl/search?hl=es&q=usb+boot+xp+install&btnG=Buscar+con+Google&meta=lr%3Dlang_en&aq=1&oq=usb+boot+xp
[14:38] <ubuntu_> BluesKaj: sis means sister ...
[14:38] <nicole_> ubuntu_: this usb to sata adapter is that just a cable or it comes with hardware?
[14:39] <nicole_> ubuntu_: 20 euros for the adapter is more than for a cdrom
[14:39] <ubuntu_> nicole_: they even come with AC-adaptor to power 3,5" drives
[14:40] <ubuntu_> well I use them for prepping discs or forensic stuff - and to install OS on may netbook (no optical drive there)
[14:40] <nicole_> ubuntu_: what i mean is if this adapter is just a cable, one end usb one end sata, in that case i cna make one, bu if the adapter is more thn a cable ten i cant
[14:41] <ubuntu_> mor than a cable
[14:41] <nicole_> ubuntu_: got it thanks
[14:49] <nicole_> i can create a tfs partition usin fdisk right?
[14:50] <nicole_> how do i create a ntfs partition?
[14:50] <ign0ramus> nicole_, gparted
[14:51] <nicole_> ign0ramus: im inside it but i dont see how, the "new" otion is unableded
[14:51] <ubuntu_> nicole_: get pmagic livecd - but you WILL NEED a CD rom for your XP problem
[14:51] <ign0ramus> nicole_, are you running from a livecd?
[14:52] <ubuntu_> nicole_: you need ntfs-tools
[14:52] <ubuntu_> also
[14:52] <nicole_> ign0ramus: no, its installed
[14:53] <ign0ramus> nicole_, you will not be able to make any changes to volumes that are currently mounted. Using a livecd circumvents this issue.
[14:53] <nicole_> ubuntu_: i can not even create a ext 3 partition yet
[14:53] <nicole_> then ill be back live, shit i erased the bootable usb live
[14:53] <Nationiant> Is it possible to install Kubuntu with all Ubuntu (but not Kubuntu) apps?
[14:54] <Nationiant> Ex. Kubuntu with Firefox
[14:54] <ubuntu_> nicole_: pmagic can be booted from an USB stick, then you can...
[14:54] <ign0ramus> nicole_, so, Boot from LiveCD > de-allocate/make new partition > Format as NTFS/Use Windows disc to install to that partition > Fix mbr (grub) > Fin.
[14:54] <Nationiant> Or, is it possible to install KDE to Ubuntu without all those apps which come with it?
[14:54] <ubuntu_> Nationiant:  yes
[14:55] <Nationiant> ubuntu_: how?
[14:55] <nicole_> ign0ramus: i restart with lice cd then i opn gparted, and try to do a new partition, how do i do the windows disc to install that partition?
[14:56] <ign0ramus> nicole_, if you already have a new partition, boot from a windows install disc, and select the partition you wish to install to.  just be careful not to wipe out your Linux partition! :P
[14:56] <ubuntu_> nicole_: you can NOT - MS OS must be running to do that...
[14:57] <nicole_> ign0ramus: ubuntu_ i am getting differnt info from unguys
[14:57] <nicole_> ubuntu_:  you mean that i can install windows oin a drive without windows already on it?
[14:58] <ign0ramus> ign0ramus, there are different ways to achieve the same issue.  what i am telling you is the standard simple way to do it
[14:58] <ubuntu_> nicole_: I am right ;-)    the windows setup buils the windows kernel (kind of) you can not just copy it
[14:58] <bazhang> how does kubuntu figure into this?
[14:58] <ign0ramus> nicole_, you can install windows to a partition that does not have windows on it yet, yes.
[14:58] <nicole_> ign0ramus: i can boot from a windows install disc since i dont have a cdrom , i tried to boot from a usb with windows xp install in it, but it fails
[14:58] <ign0ramus> nicole_, it had to be a fresh drive at some point, right?
[14:59] <ubuntu_> bazhang: i asking that myself - I figure nicole wants to install windows from a running kubuntu
[14:59] <ign0ramus> nicole_, there are certain ways to create an XP install USB drive.  your problem most likely is a result of your USB drive.
[14:59] <bazhang> better asked about usb *windows* in ##windows , right?
[15:00] <BluesKaj> Nationiant, why not just install ubuntu / gnome ?
[15:01] <nicole_> ign0ramus: yes i know, i have created xp install usb, in 2 different usb sticks. i boot in them and it crashes when the loading some files, i get a blue screen
[15:01] <nicole_> ign0ramus: i am gonna try this xp-usb stick in another pc and see what happens, it fails then i know its the usb drive
[15:02] <ign0ramus> nicole_, then either there is a hardware incompatibility, or the usb drive is missing files.  See here: http://www.vandomburg.net/installing-windows-xp-from-usb/
[15:02] <ign0ramus> nicole_, but yes, this is getting very off-topic :)
[15:02] <bazhang> !windows | nicole_
[15:02] <ubuntu_> nicole_: ign0ramus is talking about an XP *installer* USB - you most likely have an xp installed to an USB - won't work
[15:03] <ign0ramus> ubuntu_, exactly :)
[15:04] <Nationiant> I want KDE
[15:04] <Nationiant> Or at least try it, but I installed it and my application menus have a lot more programs
[15:04] <bazhang> Nationiant, then uninstall them
[15:05] <Nationiant> well
[15:05] <Nationiant> Isn't there an easier way?
[15:05] <Nationiant> Than removing every single app?
[15:05] <bazhang> you installed kubuntu-desktop ?
[15:08] <BluesKaj> Nationiant, so you want kde desktop with gnome apps?
[15:09] <Nationiant> Yep
[15:10] <nicole_> ubuntu_: i do have an xp installer usb
[15:11] <ubuntu_> nicole_: you run setup and it ask all the questions?
[15:11] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, Nationiant: apparently this guy is running Plasma in Gnome... http://pici.se/405930/?size=fullsize
[15:12] <Nationiant> Ok.
[15:12] <mackk431> hey my update program for updates has 4 blocked updates. How do i get them installed?
[15:13] <nicole_> ubuntu_: im sorry if that was unclearto you. but as i said it stil fails thanks for ur help
[15:13] <ubuntu_> mackk431: try to install one of them with apt-get and tell us the error message
[15:13] <ign0ramus> mackk431, "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" will pull in the needed dependencies
[15:13] <ImpRadar> if i add in a c++ header file will MTN add in all sub files in src/
[15:13] <mackk431> ok
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Nationiant, i think installing Ubuntu then installing kubuntu-desktop and choosing it at login when ever you boot into linux
[15:14] <BluesKaj> Nationiant, that would prolly be the easiest
[15:14] <Nationiant> BluesKaj: I know, I have tried that, but all those applications come with Synaptic package kubuntu-desktop
[15:14] <mackk431> he is downloading packets now
[15:15] <ign0ramus> mackk431, there you go :)
[15:15] <mackk431> but the packets are differnt
[15:15] <mackk431> older versions
[15:15] <mackk431> i will see what happens
[15:16] <mackk431> maybe he cant install the newer stuff cause he doesnt have the older versions
[15:17] <ign0ramus> mackk431, the command you ran will pull in necessary dependencies
[15:17] <mackk431> ok thank you ign0ramus
[15:18] <drdozer> anybody else having trouble aptitude installing pixfrogger? On my system it complains that it can't install the dependency fenix.
[15:18] <ign0ramus> mackk431, np.  see here for how APT handles these issues: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[15:18] <BluesKaj> Nationiant, then you'll just have to remove all the kde apps you don't want to use
[15:18] <Nationiant> =(
[15:19] <ign0ramus> Nationiant, if you just want plasma workspace to use, see here: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1068033
[15:20] <ign0ramus> Nationiant, else, installing kde will bring in kde packages
[15:20] <Nationiant> Ok
[15:20] <drdozer> I'm running Jaunty
[15:20] <ign0ramus> drdozer, me too! :)
[15:21] <drdozer> ignOramus, does this work for you? "sudo aptitude install pixfrogger"
[15:21] <ign0ramus> drdozer, worked fine. pulled in the necessary dependencies and installed.
[15:21] <ign0ramus> drdozer, do you have 'universe' repo enabled?
[15:24] <drdozer> ignOramus, I have this line in my sources file: deb http://gb.archive.ubuntu.com/ubuntu/ jaunty universe
[15:26] <ign0ramus> drdozer, ok what is the output of "sudo apt-get build-dep pixfrogger" ?
[15:26] <ign0ramus> drdozer, please pastebin output
[15:29] <drdozer> ignOramus, http://pastebin.com/d578cf688
[15:29] <ign0ramus> drdozer, does "sudo apt-get -f install" help?
[15:31] <lovre> i have a problem, CTRL+ALT+BACKSPACE doesnt work anymore???
[15:31] <drdozer> ignOramus, nope - slightly different output, but same error trying to track down fenix
[15:31] <ign0ramus> lovre, "sudo dontzap -d" then log out and log in.  it will work again.
[15:31] <lovre> ign0ramus: ok, ty
[15:32] <ign0ramus> drdozer, fenix is also in Universe... you cannot install manually?
[15:32] <ign0ramus> lovre, np :)
[15:33] <drdozer> ignOramus, the weird thing is that I've been able to install other fenix-? packages, also from universe
[15:33] <lovre> unfortunatelly its not working with dontzap even ???
[15:33] <ign0ramus> drdozer, you have 'fenix' and 'fenix-dev' installed ?
[15:34] <ign0ramus> lovre, if you've restarted X, please "cat /etc/X11/xorg.conf" and paste the line relating to dontzap
[15:34] <drdozer> http://pastebin.com/m34793ed0
[15:35] <ign0ramus> drdozer, so try: "sudo apt-get install fenix fenix-plugins-system"
[15:35] <lovre> ign0ramus: its set to False
[15:36] <lovre> ign0ramus: should i manually write True?
[15:36] <ign0ramus> lovre, that is the correct setting
[15:36] <drdozer> http://pastebin.com/d25a6e161
[15:36] <lovre> ign0ramus: then its something else wrong
[15:36] <ign0ramus> lovre, "dontzap" stops ctrl+alt+backspace from working.. making it false allows it
[15:36] <lovre> i see
[15:36] <ign0ramus> !dontzap | lovre
[15:37] <lovre> ign0ramus: i see. what else could be causing this?
[15:37] <ign0ramus> lovre, a very windows-ish answer, but if you've done what i said, try rebooting and see if the changes take effect.  if not, then we have some work to do :)
[15:38] <ign0ramus> drdozer, please pastebin /etc/apt/sources.list
[15:39] <drdozer> http://pastebin.com/d49dde2fd
[15:40] <ign0ramus> drdozer, look at lines 41,42,48,and 49... uncomment then.
[15:40] <ign0ramus> drdozer, and Line 57, too.  then save and exit.  do "sudo apt-get update && sudo apt-get upgrade"
[15:44] <drdozer> ign0ramus, still no joy - "No candidate version found for fenix"
[15:44] <ign0ramus> drdozer, show me your edited version of /etc/apt/sources.list  please
[15:46] <drdozer> http://pastebin.com/d742d4cf8
[15:46] <ign0ramus> drdozer, ok, looks good.  you've saved the file
[15:46] <ign0ramus> and did sudo apt-get update?
[15:46] <drdozer> yeah, and updated and so on
[15:47] <ign0ramus> drdozer, pastebin "sudo apt-get install fenix"
[15:47] <drdozer> is there a cache file I can blow away to force it to grab everything new?
[15:47] <ign0ramus> drdozer, not sure what you mean ...
[15:48] <drdozer> http://pastebin.com/d5b0b062f
[15:49] <ign0ramus> drdozer, that doesn't make much sense... it's in Universe, which you've now enabled, and you should be able to pull that package...
[15:49] <ign0ramus> drdozer, you can install the .deb from here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/fenix
[15:50] <ign0ramus> drdozer, and fenix-plugins-system here: http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/fenix-plugins-system
[15:51] <ign0ramus> drdozer, are you running 64bit?
[15:54] <ign0ramus> brb
[15:59] <ign0ramus> argh! anyone else just randomly get a notification that "the playback device <name> stopped working" ?  it's been happening all too frequently lately, killing all my sound :/
[15:59] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: pulseaudio is hogging your sound I guess
[15:59] <drdozer> ignOramus, yeah - that could be the problem perhaps - Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU     U7600  @ 1.20GHz: http://pastebin.com/d3e435f55
[16:00] <redomondo> back and gettingt the hang of it - I want  to install a driver though, as well I can access any of my files on windows.
[16:00] <ign0ramus> drdozer, that's why i asked... seems fenix is only 32 bit :(
[16:00] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: all reports with " "the playback device <name> stopped working" so far were pulseaudio problems :(
[16:00] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, i thought i removed PA... what packages should i purge?
[16:00] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: you could force a install with the a 64 bit machine
[16:00] <shadeslayer> -a
[16:00] <Mamarok> let me see
[16:01] <drdozer> ign0ramus, oh - that's annoying - I thought 32 bit stuff could run under 64 bit
[16:01] <ign0ramus> shadeslayer, if you can help in this regard, i'd appreciate it... i always use 32bit for compatibility reasons... im not good with amd64 stuff
[16:01] <shadeslayer> drdozer: it can! one sec
[16:01] <shadeslayer> ign0ramus: hehe...sure
[16:02] <shadeslayer> i use 64 bit since it runs a bit faster on my machine
[16:02] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: remove and purge as many packages you can of pulseaudio without removing KDE, push it to the bottom in Phonon, then remove ~/.kde/share/config/phonondevicesrc and restart KDE
[16:03] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, what about any gtk apps - i don't need PA for them, right?
[16:03] <BluesKaj> !ia32
[16:04] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: if you are not running Gnome, then no, you don't
[16:04] <BluesKaj> !ia32libs
[16:04] <shadeslayer> drdozer: sudo dpkg -i --force-architecture <package>
[16:04] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, nope kde all the way, with a few gtk apps (firefox, pidgin, etc) :)
[16:04] <Mamarok> then this should not be a problem
[16:05] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, i know you've been against PA since day one, and now i see why :)
[16:05] <shadeslayer> drdozer: did it work??
[16:05] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: I wouldn't be against it if it was not forced on us by the underlying Ubuntu and if it would work correctly
[16:06] <dwidmann> !info ia32-libs | BluesKaj
[16:06] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, which is more than fair in my book
[16:06] <Mamarok> the idea behind pulseaudio is good, the implementation is bad
[16:06] <BluesKaj> !ia32-apt-get
[16:06] <dwidmann> ubottu lies!
[16:06] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, what exactly *is* the idea?  for desktop use, what advantages are there?
[16:06] <BluesKaj> weird
[16:06] <shadeslayer> !info ia32-apt-get
[16:07] <shadeslayer> BluesKaj: theres always !find
[16:07] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: what are you looking for?
[16:07] <drdozer> shadeslayer, that got the fenix deb installed, thanks, but pixfrogger still gives the same error message
[16:08] <Mamarok> !factoid
[16:08] <BluesKaj> hmm, I'm looking at ia32-apt-get in synaptic ..."Apt-get and dpkg wrapper for on-the-fly ia32-libs conversion"
[16:08] <shadeslayer> drdozer: hmmm...no idea on that sorry..that command has always worked for me....maybe you need some 32 bit libraries...just a shot in the dark
[16:08] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: there's nothing in the factoids as I can see
[16:09] <Zxcvb> what is the best way to run 32 bit apps on 64 bit kubuntu?
[16:09] <drdozer> shadeslayer: ok, thanks for your help
[16:09] <shadeslayer> drdozer: no problems :)
[16:09] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: well, mostly you shouldn't need to, otherwise you might need to handle it on a case-by-case basis
[16:10] <Zxcvb> dwidmann: the big one is wine
[16:10] <Zxcvb> dwidmann: as 64 bit wine only supports win64 apps
[16:10] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, took your advice.  restarting X... brb.  Thanks!
[16:10] <Mamarok> BluesKaj: check here: http://pastebin.com/d148f6ba8
[16:10] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: Umm, I don't think that's true about wine
[16:11] <BluesKaj> Mamarok, http://www.pastebin.ca/1467676
[16:11] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: I'd have to double check to be sure, of course. There is the occasional incompatibility though, but it's rare (I don't think Diablo 1 works)
[16:11] <Zxcvb> dwidmann: unless it changed recently, tha is
[16:11] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, well looking good so far... i didn't get the playback device failure notification on login like usual... ;)
[16:12] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: good :)
[16:12] <swatto> hello all, please can someone help me, I can no longer get kde to start in kubuntu :( i just get console login
[16:12] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, and amarok is completely unaffected, yes?
[16:12] <ign0ramus> swatto, do you get any errors?
[16:12] <swatto> i did the dist-upgrade to install some blocked updates and now kde wont load
[16:13] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: I've been able to use 32-bit apps in wine on my 64-bit installs for years
[16:13] <swatto> no no errors, it just takes me to the terminal, i have tried starting kde but it says display is not set or cannot connect to the x server
[16:13] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: well, the problem is Pulseaudio doesn't work well with the phonon-xine-backend, and that's the only backend we can recommend so far, gstreamer is buggy too
[16:13] <Zxcvb> dwidmann: is it better to use chroot or ia32libs and getlibs
[16:13] <BluesKaj> dwidmann, no need just install 1a32-libs
[16:13] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, so stick with phonon/xine, then?
[16:14] <BluesKaj> ia32-libs
[16:14] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: ia32-libsd and getlibs
[16:14] <ign0ramus> swatto, have you tried reconfiguring xorg?
[16:14] <swatto> no, not sure how to do that ign0ramus
[16:14] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: chroot would have been  "
[16:14] <dwidmann> "the way to go" 4 or 5 years ago
[16:14] <ign0ramus> swatto, "sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg "
[16:14] <dwidmann> Stupid enter key cut me off mid sentence :(
[16:15] <swatto> do i have to change anything or just enter that command?
[16:15] <ign0ramus> swatto, that should do it.  then choose your settings
[16:16] <swatto> ok ill try that, thanks ign0ramus, will hopefully be back on kubuntu and not through chatzilla
[16:16] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: 2.4. Does Wine run on 64-bit?
[16:16] <dwidmann> Yes. Normally, installation should be the same as with 32-bit: simply install the Wine package for your distribution.
[16:17] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: Wine is currently offered in 32-bit. 16-bit and 32-bit Windows applications work with it. It works on both 32-bit and 64-bit Linux installations.
[16:17] <dwidmann> straight from the wine FAQ
[16:17] <dwidmann> Zxcvb: Support for 64-bit Windows applications is planned for the distant future (see Wine64).
[16:18] <Zxcvb> dwidmann: ok, I am getting a 64 bit system next month and just wanted to make sure
[16:20] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: yes, that's the recommended backend from our side
[16:21] <swatto> Didn't work ign0ramus :( came up with xserver-org not installed, i tried to install it but it couldnt find the package
[16:21] <ign0ramus> swatto, can you boot into a different kernel?
[16:21] <ign0ramus> Mamarok, thanks for the info :)
[16:21] <swatto> hmm not sure how to do that ign0ramus, sorry im new to linux
[16:22] <dwidmann> swatto: xserver-xorg, not xserver-org
[16:22] <ign0ramus> swatto, on your grub screen, can you select a different kernel to boot into?
[16:22] <rafaeljpd> of course
[16:22] <swatto> Im not sure, i will have a look, there are different options ign0ramus, like memtest and recovery mode if thats what you mean?
[16:23] <Mamarok> ign0ramus: yaw :)
[16:23] <ign0ramus> swatto, "sudo apt-get install xserver-xorg" should work as well
[16:23] <swatto> i will have a look, brb thanks :)
[16:27] <swatto> im in ign0ramus :) but my display is all screwed up, i dont think it is using the nvidia driver anymore as my graphics card fan is still running at full speed
[16:27] <ign0ramus> swatto, well, first things first.  good that you're back in.  now go get your display driver, and you should be set
[16:27] <ign0ramus> !nvidia | swatto
[16:28] <swatto> I must have overwrote something when i did that dist-upgrade thing to get rid of the blocked updates message
[16:28] <ign0ramus> swatto, sounds like you somehow removed xorg ... ?
[16:29] <swatto> no it wasn't removed ign0ramus, i was typing it wrong :P
[16:29] <ign0ramus> swatto, so what did you do to get back in then?
[16:30] <swatto> i ran that dpkg-reconfigure command and went through it, i then did startx and it loaded kde but in a screwed up state lol
[16:31] <petsounds> swatto : sudo nvidia-xconfig, logout and alt-E
[16:32] <swatto> how can i shut x down so that i can reinstall the graphics driver again?
[16:33] <ign0ramus> swatto, drop into a tty and kill X from there, i suppose
[16:33] <Mamarok> swatto: you sure you do not miss some files? make sure you have kdebase installed
[16:33] <swatto> just installing it now mamarok
[16:37] <andreas__> hallo
[16:38] <swatto> can someone tell me the command to kill x server please
[16:38] <cinex> swatto: sudo killall -9 kdm
[16:38] <cinex> sudo killall -9 Xorg
[16:39] <cinex> if u dont kill kdm first it will reload the login screen and be running X
[16:39] <cinex> it kinda restarts itself
[16:39] <cinex> cntrl+alt+backspace will restart xorg
[16:40] <BluesKaj> cinex, not on jaunty
[16:40] <swatto> hmm thats not working cinex, the nvidia driver still says i have xserver running
[16:40] <cinex> BluesKaj: u have to run a command to enable it
[16:40] <cinex> swatto, you killed kdm then Xorg?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> i have , still doesn't work
[16:41] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, "sudo dontzap -d" will re-enable ctrl+alt+backspace
[16:41] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, already did that
[16:41] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, and you've restarted X since issuing that command?
[16:41] <BluesKaj> yup
[16:42] <cinex> im gonna test
[16:42] <cinex> brb
[16:42] <swatto> yep cinex
[16:42] <swatto> last time i did it i had to type some kind of file path
[16:42] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, and /etc/X11/xorg.conf now lists dontzap as 'false' ?
[16:42] <cinex> should work swatto
[16:42] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, lemme check
[16:42] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, very strange... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/DontZap
[16:43] <swatto> brb gonna restart
[16:45] <cinex> why is kdm not in /etc/rc2.d ?
[16:45] <cinex> i found it
[16:45] <cinex> i was just about to give swatto a method to
[16:46] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, yup, Option	"DontZap"	"False"
[16:46] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, weird. did you check the link above?  this seems to work for me and almost everyone else...
[16:47] <cinex> wb swatto
[16:47] <cinex> fixed it?
[16:47] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, oops !  ... maybe i shouldn't be too concerned and should have told you I'm running Karmic :P
[16:47] <swatto> thanks :) yep fixed it, just reinstalled the driver which removed the old one and rewrote the xorg config i think so that it loaded
[16:47] <cinex> nice
[16:48] <swatto> im never messing with updgrades again :( well at least until i know a bit more about linux
[16:48] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, that may be an issue! :P
[16:48] <Mamarok> swatto: that is a very good idea :)
[16:48] <swatto> I honestly thought it was gonna be a reinstall job
[16:48] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i'm pretty sure it depends on your version of xorg... could be wrong though.
[16:49] <BluesKaj> swatto, agreed , don't fool with you graphics drivers and X too much ...once it's working , don't play around with it
[16:49] <ign0ramus> swatto, nah... you had a very minor issue.  check here before re-installing! :)
[16:50] <binMonkey> hi, guys.  i don't know much about hardware and what i've googled i don't really understand.  i found a laptop for $388 with an intel pentium dual core t3400.  is this a pretty decent deal?  will it give me a good framerate with openarena?
[16:50] <swatto> I didnt mess around with the graphics BluesKaj, well as far as i know i didnt, i just did a dist-upgrade or something?? to get rid of the blocked updates that needed dependencies and it screwed it up
[16:50] <ign0ramus> binMonkey, this isn't www.slickdeals.net ...
[16:50] <commander_> how can i get adept manager up. i installed it but can't draw it up
[16:51] <ign0ramus> commander_, "kdesudo adept" doesn't work?
[16:51] <binMonkey> ign0ramus: thanks.
[16:51] <commander_> type tht in konsole?
[16:51] <ign0ramus> commander_, yup
[16:52] <ign0ramus> binMonkey, sorry to seem rude, but this isn't the best place to ask about hardware pricing
[16:52] <ign0ramus> binMonkey, and anyway, framerates in games depend more on the gpu than anything :P
[16:53] <binMonkey> ok.  thanks.
[16:53] <ign0ramus> binMonkey, a sub-$400 laptop probably does not have a discrete gpu, which is what you'd want for good smooth gameplay
[16:53] <commander_> command don't work ign
[16:53] <ign0ramus> commander_, what's it say?
[16:53] <BluesKaj> binMonkey, whynot go ask in an open arena chat ...there's prolly one somewhere on IRC
[16:53] <commander_> Command doesn't work
[16:54] <commander_> tht what it says
[16:54] <ign0ramus> commander_, the output is "Command doesn't work" ?
[16:54] <commander_> Ign i meant command not found
[16:54] <ign0ramus> commander_, "sudo apt-get install adept" try that
[16:55] <togetic> anyone might know why kdm freezes when i try logging in? i've been on this live cd for days now
[16:55] <ign0ramus> togetic, you're still dealing with this kdm issue?
[16:55] <togetic> it just freezes once it starts and the computer doesn't respond to my keyboard or mouse inputs
[16:55] <togetic> yup
[16:55] <commander_> got it thank Ign
[16:56] <ign0ramus> togetic, i very rarely recommend it, but maybe reinstall? you've been messing with this for over a week now! :P
[16:56] <BluesKaj> binMonkey, irc.anynet.org/#openarena
[16:56] <ign0ramus> commander_, cool.  adept does not come by default in Jaunty.  it uses Kpackagekti
[16:56] <togetic> i was planning on purchasing a backup drive and reinstalling after backing up but suntrust charged me nearly half my paycheck in overdraft fees, #*#()&%
[16:56] <ign0ramus> *kpackagekit
[16:56] <adasz> how can i in kubuntu jaunty join a wpa/2 secured wlan?
[16:56] <ign0ramus> togetic, off topic, but if you call, you can probably get some of those fee waived .... i know all about that ;)
[16:56] <ImpRadar> hey people. i am trying to download pidgin using MTN but i am not sure what to put in the sync argument. CAn anyone help?
[16:57] <ign0ramus> adasz, install wicd ;)
[16:57] <adasz> ign0ramus, sudi aptitude install wicd?
[16:57] <ign0ramus> adasz, "sudo apt-get install wicd" if you have jaunty
[16:57] <BluesKaj> adasz, open add widgets , choose "network management"
[16:58] <adasz> BluesKaj, and then?
[16:58] <BluesKaj> mamage connections
[16:58] <adasz> the websuplicant is not updates
[16:58] <decembre> hello
[16:59] <ign0ramus> adasz, well either use the built in network manager or use wicd... can't use both.  IMHO, wicd works much better with wpa2
[16:59] <decembre> I have problem with amarok
[16:59] <BluesKaj> adasz,right click on the icon / manage connections
[16:59] <decembre> my collection doesn't appears in it
[16:59] <decembre> whereas it has been scanned
[17:00] <decembre> it's after I re-install kubuntu
[17:00] <decembre> anyone has an idea ?
[17:00] <BluesKaj> ok ign0ramus , never tried wicd , ..network management worked fine for me on our laptop
[17:00] <adasz> BlueEagle, but i cant select WPA2
[17:00] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, then you are one of teh lucky ones ;)
[17:01] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, an informal poll in this room would show many folks with issues with NM
[17:01] <adasz> there is only WEP, WPA-PSK ore WPA-EAP
[17:02] <BluesKaj> adasz, I beleive WPA-PSK is equivalent to WPA2
[17:03] <adasz> he can not join the network
[17:03] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj is correct
[17:03] <ign0ramus> adasz, would you like to try wicd?
[17:04] <adasz> ign0ramus, now i install it xD
[17:04] <adasz> ok installed what now?
[17:04] <ign0ramus> adasz, "wicd-client"
[17:05] <ign0ramus> adasz, you should see the little icon in your Task Manager widget in Panel
[17:06] <ign0ramus> adasz, left-click it, and put in your info.  you should be able to connect now
[17:06] <adasz> i cant install it
[17:07] <ign0ramus> adasz, are all your repos enabled?
[17:07] <ign0ramus> adasz, it is in Extras
[17:08] <adasz> w8
[17:08] <BluesKaj> adasz, make sure the jaunty universe is enabled in your sources.list/package manager
[17:11] <dwidmann> Okay, so I use gtkpod to load up m y ipods. It looks like it can convert incompatible formats (ogg, flac) on the fly, but is there some way to change the settings it uses for doing so?
[17:11] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, imho 'handbrake' is the best for converting ipod files.
[17:11] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: I've not played with it before, I'll check it out
[17:12] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: is it in the repos?
[17:12] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, i know that didn't answer your question, but handbrake is awesome
[17:12] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, lemme check
[17:12] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, yup :)
[17:12] <BluesKaj> ok ign0ramus, gonna try wicd with the belkin usb wifi ..brb
[17:13] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, cool :)
[17:13] <dwidmann> I mean I could easily convert them with soundkonverter or something, I'm mostly wondering about doing it on the fly
[17:13] <snarkster> is kopete yahoo support not working?
[17:15] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, see here: http://www.gtkpod.org/about.html they say to use 3rd party apps for converting :(
[17:15] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: what package is that handbrake package in?
[17:15] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: bummer
[17:15] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: guess I'll stick with soundkonverter-ing them for now
[17:16] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, hey, if that works, then ok!
[17:16] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, i have a creative zen, but i use mencoder to convert.  it takes a while, but it works well, especially for video :)
[17:16] <dwidmann> (I'm moving my entire collection to flac ... kind of bugs me that I need to keep a second copy in mp3 ...)
[17:17] <snarkster> does anyone know if there is a #wine channel?
[17:17] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, you could write a bash script to remove all (redundant) mp3 files once converted to FLAC
[17:17] <snarkster> I cant seem to find it
[17:17] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: when I say I'm moving to flac, I mean I'm painstakingly re-ripping everything
[17:17] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, ouch.  good luck bro
[17:18] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: I've gotten through about 50 so far
[17:18] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, out of how many?
[17:18] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: lots
[17:18] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: 300?
[17:18] <atse> espanol?
[17:18] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, well, you've made good progress
[17:18] <ign0ramus> !es | atse
[17:18] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: I've come up with an interesting way of approaching it
[17:19] <DaskreeCH> snarkster: #winehq
[17:19] <ign0ramus> dwidmann, i figured you would :)
[17:19] <DaskreeCH> dwidmann: THat's interesting unless you are an audiophile FLAC is really for archival purposes
[17:20] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, really?
[17:20] <DaskreeCH> no not really
[17:20] <atse> thank you
[17:20] <DaskreeCH> But I mean that's generally what it's used for
[17:20] <ign0ramus> atse, de nada
[17:21] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, gotcha.  also, aren't FLAC files huge compared to (compressed) mp3's?
[17:21] <DaskreeCH> Rip to something lossy to listen to (unless you really can't stand lossy formats cause they are grating to the ear) and rip to FLAC to put on long term storage
[17:21] <dwidmann> ign0ramus: I rip to a tmpfs with abcde, using 2 drives at once so I can do 2 disks at once, then after 10 or so I tag them while still on the tmpfs with easytag and rename/retag them as necessary (much faster while still on tmpfs), then I copy them over. It greatly reduces the bottlenecks
[17:21] <DaskreeCH> ign0ramus: Huge a FLAC is 1/2 the size of a Wav Lossy stuff is ~1/10 the size
[17:22] <dwidmann> Yes, they're enourmous, but I have a couple 1TB drives.
[17:22] <snarkster> thank you
[17:22] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, comparing to wav, anything looks good :)
[17:22] <ign0ramus> brb lunch
[17:22] <DaskreeCH> Yeah but 1/2 is still an incredible amount of space taken up
[17:22] <DaskreeCH> You can fit maybe 5 or so albums on a single layer DVD
[17:23] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: it really does make me wonder why they still use CD as opposed to a modern sort of disk (surely they should have come up with something interesting int hat regards by now), I'd be worried about how they'd spin it though ... DRM this encryption that ....
[17:25] <DaskreeCH> dwidmann: Hardware
[17:27] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: eh?
[17:28] <DaskreeCH> There is atoo much hardware on the market that knows uses and utilizes CD format and is non upgradeable to ignore it]
[17:29] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: I kind of agree, and kind of disagree. It would be nice if they started releasing stuff in 7.1 or something like that though.
[17:30] <DaskreeCH> dwidmann: They do. On DVD-Audio disks
[17:30] <DaskreeCH> Course you have to buy a DVD-Audio player
[17:30] <dwidmann> I've never seen a DVD-Audio disk before ... I've also never seen the DVD-Audio players ...
[17:30] <DaskreeCH> THat's why they make CDs
[17:30] <dwidmann> Format doomed to die an early death I presume?
[17:31] <DaskreeCH> Early is relative it's been around for years
[17:31] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: and I've never seen even one :\
[17:31] <DaskreeCH> Going on 10 years old now
[17:33] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, a kubuntu cd on Laserdisc would be awesome :D
[17:33] <DaskreeCH> You mean a Kubuntu LD? :)
[17:33] <ign0ramus> lol
[17:33] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, you could install kubuntu or decapitate people; it's multi-functional
[17:39] <DaskreeCH> I can't wait till Ubuntu realises shipping on a CD doesn't make sense anymore and jumps to shipping on a blu-Ray :)
[17:39] <DaskreeCH> wheeeee all of linux is mine!
[17:39] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, plus you get more than 1 wallpaper!
[17:39] <DaskreeCH> Ha haha
[17:39] <ign0ramus> DaskreeCH, i heard it will come with the Internet pre-bundled
[17:39] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: and I've never seen even one :\
[17:40] <DaskreeCH> http://www.withinwindows.com/2009/03/31/correction-starter-wallpaper-more-secure-than-i-thought/
[17:40] <DaskreeCH> dwidmann: and you can't go a day without running into a CD unit
[17:41] <dwidmann> DaskreeCH: yes I could, it just wouldn't be a day I'd be happy about
[17:41] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, no luck with wicd , doesn't see the router broadcast
[17:41] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, did you restart X?
[17:41] <DaskreeCH> dwidmann: Yeah being in prison sucks I agree
[17:42] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, works fine with eth0...yeah I rebooted
[17:42] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, hmm... is 'wireless interface' correct in the settings?
[17:43] <BluesKaj> wonder if the legacy ralink driver might work
[17:43] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, in my case, it's 'wlan0'
[17:45] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, anything else i may need to setup m before i disconnect from the "wired" eth0 ?
[17:46] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, no - if you've got wicd installed and running, you just have to adjust the settings for what works for you
[17:46] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i use "wlan0" and "wext" for wpasupplicant for example
[17:47] <BluesKaj> ok
[17:52] <Matisse> hi
[17:54] <hvgotcodes> if i have ubuntu 8.10 installed, is it possible to get latest kde release?  And if so can someone point me to a guide?
[17:55] <DaskreeCH> !hi | Matisse
[17:55] <DaskreeCH> hvgotcodes: What would you refer to as the latest release ?
[17:55] <Matisse> I need some help with using more than 2 audio channel. I have 2 soundcards, one onboard and another. Both have only 1 output channel
[17:55] <hvgotcodes> DaskreeCH, i think 4.3 right?
[17:56] <hvgotcodes> none of the 8.10 ubuntu kde guides seem to work anymore
[17:56] <DaskreeCH> hvgotcodes: 4.3 is not out yet. 4.3 beta is out and it's on an experimental Repo. on a technicality you can probably upgrade to it but I would tread cautiously
[17:57] <hvgotcodes> DaskreeCH, ok thanx
[17:58] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, I'm on a neighbour's unsecured network that wicd found , but i'd like to reconnect with encryption which my router requires  , wpa-psk with a pw to connect is what I'm used to.
[17:58] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, ok, does wicd now see your connection?
[17:58] <DaskreeCH> hvgotcodes: You can always try 9.10 ^_^
[18:00] <hvgotcodes> DaskreeCH, im stuck on 8.10 until ati gets there shit straight
[18:00] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, it sees the connection but when I click on it it just says "this connection requires encryption" or some such ..I'm looking for pw encryption options but i don't see any in the GUI at least
[18:00] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, click on your connection, and then click properties
[18:01] <DaskreeCH> hvgotcodes: Ah Good call. which reminds me I need to figure out if I can install a 8.10 kernel with the 8.10 video drivers to get back pretty Kwin
[18:01] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, there you can set encryption values
[18:01] <Walzmyn> BluesKaj: are you using the kde widget or something else?
[18:01] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, he's using wicd now instead
[18:01] <Walzmyn> k
[18:02] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, all I get is a dialog box  "This network requires encryption to be enabled "
[18:02] <MetaMorfoziS> Hi all
[18:02] <MetaMorfoziS> is there an app (if possible kde based) that can store notes safely?
[18:02] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, hang on...
[18:02] <dragos> hello... any of you ever installed xen in ubuntu/kubunti ?!
[18:03] <Alethes> any reason why the update notifier would  be showing 8 available updates and kpackagekit only showing 4 blocked updates?
[18:03] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you should see this: http://i40.tinypic.com/25uilqo.jpg
[18:03] <Walzmyn> if i'm running a home built kernel, I should be safe to remove the kernel packages installed via apt, correct?
[18:04] <Walzmyn> Alethes: mines doing the same thing, I think the notifier is not up-to-date on some i've already applied
[18:04] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, if your current kernel is working, then i don't see why not
[18:04] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: ok. I want to get these blocked updates out of the system so it won't constantly tell me something needs updating
[18:04] <Alethes> Walzmyn: any idea why those kernel updates are blocked?
[18:05] <Walzmyn> Alethes: i assumned mine were blocked because i was not using the kernel in the repo
[18:05] <Walzmyn> I hadda build the new .30 kernel to get around a serious bug issue with my platform
[18:05] <ign0ramus> Alethes, its because of dependencies
[18:05] <Alethes> I'm using the generic kernel package
[18:06] <Alethes> ign0ramus: any way to know what deps are missing or perhaps in conflict/
[18:06] <ign0ramus> Alethes, see here: http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[18:06] <Alethes> ?
[18:06] <Alethes> ok thanks
[18:06] <ign0ramus> Alethes, "sudo apt-get --simulate dist-upgrade" may show you what it's pulling
[18:07] <Alethes> ok cool
[18:07] <Walzmyn> it'd be nice if it listed the conflicting dependency when it said they were blocked
[18:07] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, agreed
[18:07] <Alethes> yeah it would
[18:07] <Alethes> that said, I really like kpackagekit over adept
[18:07] <Alethes> I really like jaunty overall for that matter
[18:07] <ign0ramus> Alethes, its much better than the kde 4 version of adept, which is *awful*
[18:07] <Walzmyn> synaptic FTW
[18:08] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, for gui's, synaptic is still the best.  but CLI > all ;)
[18:08] <Alethes> ign0ramus: I wasn't ever really happy with adept having  use synaptic with ubuntu before switching to kubuntu
[18:08] <Walzmyn> oh yeah, hands down
[18:08] <Alethes> s/use/used
[18:08] <Alethes> btw, ign0ramus, that page isn't loading
[18:08] <rom1v> hi
[18:09] <rom1v> why if I chose the theme GTK+, a middle click on a scroll doesn't move the scroll?
[18:09] <rom1v> while it works with oxygen (and it works with gtk+ under gnome)
[18:09] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: i had to do a reinstall (that bug I mentioned) got the system installed and then used apt-get to refresh, instal about 15 apps then upgrade - looked around and my wife's mouth was hanging open!
[18:09] <ign0ramus> Alethes, hmm... i've been linking to that page the last couple of days (everyone had questions about blocked updates)... lemme see
[18:09] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, it's a beautiful thing :)
[18:10] <Alethes> man I really need to get to know apt better
[18:10] <ign0ramus> Alethes, this may help http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=851986
[18:11] <Alethes> I started with slackware, so package management was never something I cared about heh
[18:11] <Walzmyn> I'm not that good with it really. It's just that when you reinstall your OS 5 times in one week, using the GUI gets tedious
[18:11] <ign0ramus> Alethes, i find debian forums have much less misinformation than ubuntu forums... as you can see, there is conflicting info in that post, but it does get resolved :)
[18:12] <Walzmyn> That post is not loading in for me. I was trying to read it too
[18:13] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, hmm.. that one loads fine, while the debian one did not.  at least on my end...
[18:13] <Alethes> ign0ramus: the safest post in that forum it seems is "Just wait it out, the problem should sort itself out when the dependencies are fixed."
[18:13] <Walzmyn> oh, didn't see the new one, i was tyring to read the debian psot
[18:13] <ign0ramus> Alethes, that is generally the case, but the debian post had great info about why you get that message, and APT's abilities
[18:13] <Alethes> ah ok
[18:14] <Alethes> well, as long as it's not a problem on my end I really don't care :)
[18:14] <Alethes> btw quassell is horrible heh
[18:14] <BluesKaj> ok ign0ramus , my dialog is abit different than yours but i finally got it to pop up so i could make the changes
[18:14] <Alethes> installed konversation from svn 'cause I couldn't stand quassell
[18:15] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i think there's like a little arrow you have to click to get the drop-down.  sorry if i didnt mention that
[18:15] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you got it working now?
[18:15] <Walzmyn> ah, I'm digging quassel. Never was a fan of konversation
[18:15] <BluesKaj> I'd better warn my neighbour , if I can figure out which one it is , who's got an unsecured wifi that i just piggy backed on
[18:15] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, heresy!
[18:16] <Walzmyn> used xchat for years until quassel came out
[18:16] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, yes  :)
[18:16] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, that's your 'backup' internet ;)  (of course i'm kidding)
[18:16] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, cool. wicd also seems to get a better connection than NM
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, well, i just used it , ...lucky i don't have a keylogger installed :)
[18:17] <LuisJa> is there a skin to make openoffice to look like microsoft office 2007?
[18:17] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, :)
[18:17] <bhna> LuisJa: no
[18:17] <LuisJa> are u serious?!
[18:17] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, agreed ...getting about 80% , whereas only 65% with the network management
[18:17] <Zengol> Can someone help me troubleshoot my JACK audio installation?
[18:18] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i have a small house, but wicd is usually 90%-100% where NM would get 80% tops
[18:19] <BluesKaj> same here ign0ramus , we live in a 1200sqft bungalow ...perfect for retired ppl
[18:19] <LuisJa> there is a free code version of a mp3 cutter and splitter than u know?
[18:20] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, you gotta love a grandpa using Linux :)
[18:20] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, Audacity
[18:20] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: thx dude
[18:21] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, np.  Audacity is better than many paid Windows apps, too :)
[18:21] <LuisJa> ign0ramus: damn: E: No se pudo encontrar el paquete Audacity :(
[18:21] <BluesKaj> hehe ign0ramus , I know a few others , mostly former tech guys like me who have been using unix for yrs then linux ...linux is a new kid on the block to some of them :)
[18:21] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, lettres pequenos - "audacity"
[18:22] <BluesKaj> altho linux is also new to me , ign0ramus
[18:22] <LuisJa> oh...
[18:22] <LuisJa> LOL
[18:22] <LuisJa> thx
[18:22] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, i've only been using linux for a couple of years, so i'm still learning a lot myself
[18:22] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, np
[18:22] <LuisJa> Letras pequeñas :) thx dude
[18:22] <ign0ramus> LuisJa, now we both learned something :)
[18:22] <LuisJa> lol cool
[18:23]  * Walzmyn wonders what was just said
[18:23] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, you just saw me spanish-fail trying to say 'lowercase'
[18:23] <BluesKaj> LuisJa, audacity rocks ...i use it to digitize some of my old vinyl records when I'm feeling patient , cuz it's abit of work
[18:23] <Walzmyn> ign0ramus: ah
[18:24] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, i know this is an english room, but things like 'lowercase' are usually not the first thing a non-english speaking person knows ;)
[18:24] <LuisJa> sweet
[18:25] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, gonna check the auto connect on the wicd ...is there anything else i should know before I reboot ?
[18:25] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, sounds like you got it figured out... auto-connect, and re-connect on lost connection... thats about it :)
[18:26] <ign0ramus> BluesKaj, also, there's a newer version on sourceforge, which is why mine looks a little different.  thats it though
[18:28] <BluesKaj> ign0ramus, yeah I just used apt
[18:28] <BluesKaj> ok brb
[18:30] <ign0ramus> Walzmyn, Alethes: here is the debian article about blocked updates: http://web.archive.org/web/20051231072144/http://www.debian-administration.org/articles/69
[18:30] <ign0ramus> Internet Archive to the rescue!
[18:32] <commander_> ign do you have cairo dock 4 kubuntu KDE
[18:32] <ign0ramus> commander_, no docks for me :P
[18:32] <commander_> DOES ANYONE KNOW u can get Cairo docks
[18:33] <Sparky> hey everyone.
[18:34] <ign0ramus> commander_, it's in the repos
[18:34] <ign0ramus> !hi | Sparky
[18:34] <Sparky> Thnx :)
[18:34]  * Sparky is new to ubuntu.
[18:34] <Sparky> Just installed Kubuntu and configuring it
[18:34] <shadeslayer> !new | Sparky
[18:35] <Unksi> Sparky: welcome :)
[18:35] <Sparky> Thanks :)
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Sparky: welcome to binary land :)
[18:35] <Sparky> hehe. Im quite excited.
[18:35] <Sparky> Suffered enough with Vista
[18:35] <Sparky> time to move to more stable environments.
[18:35] <shadeslayer> Sparky: the sensible choice :)
[18:35] <Sparky> indeed.
[18:36] <Sparky> just a quick question
[18:36] <Sparky> ive been trying to configure "tor"
[18:36] <Sparky> its a tool that allows users to surf anonymously
[18:36] <Sparky> problem is, it keeps crashing
[18:36] <Sparky> and the log files dont give me much either.
[18:36] <shadeslayer> !tor | Sparky
[18:36] <Sparky> oh
[18:36] <Sparky> well, i didnt intend to use it on Irc
[18:36] <Sparky> just for regular surfing
[18:37] <Matisse> I need some help with using more than 2 audio channel. I have 2 soundcards, one onboard and another. Both have only 1 output channel. With Windoze it was to use input channels for output and output channels from both sound cards. Is this possible with ubuntu?
[18:37] <shadeslayer> Sparky: i dont think there is a very large threat if you are browsing the net on a linux machine
[18:37] <Sparky> ah the threat does exist
[18:37] <Sparky> im in the middle east.
[18:37] <Sparky> :)
[18:37] <Sparky> everything here is under scrutiny
[18:38] <shadeslayer> Sparky: brb..reboot :)
[18:38] <Sparky> i have to use proxies to access Flickr
[18:40] <Sparky> brb
[18:50] <elton> alguma menina que queira conversar?
[18:51] <bmv> ola wenas
[18:51] <bmv> elton wenas
[18:52] <elton> #mp3
[18:52] <elton> ops
[18:53] <bmv> Ola
[18:53] <bmv> wenas
[18:53] <bmv> no hay nadien ?
[18:54] <DaskreeCH> !br
[18:55] <bmv> Eso es bastante complicado
[18:56] <DaskreeCH> bmv: English in this channel
[18:57] <commander_> ok what about kooldock
[18:57] <commander_> i downloaded it and can't find it
[18:57] <pjclemente> what is kooldock?
[18:57] <bmv> No pillo nada
[19:00] <federico_> Hola gente
[19:00] <federico_> todo bien
[19:00] <bmv> Federico no
[19:00] <bmv> no me entero de nada
[19:00] <federico_> ok
[19:00] <bmv> como hago para enlazar ?
[19:01] <federico_> googlea
[19:01] <federico_> jajaja
[19:01] <bmv> y ?
[19:01] <bmv> mala ostia
[19:01] <bmv> En serio va ?
[19:01] <federico_> ln
[19:02] <bmv> in ? Federico
[19:02] <federico_> bueno me voy yendo saludos, y si keres enlazar ln viene de link,
[19:02] <federico_> ln-s
[19:02] <Dragnslcr> !es | federico_
[19:02] <federico_> link simbólico
[19:03] <federico_> bueno x eso me voy yendo
[19:03] <bmv> Pera
[19:03] <bmv> como enlazo ?
[19:04] <BluesKaj> ok ign0ramus , all is good ..thought I'd check back in to report..wicd works well , thanks again ... gotta run,  lotsa stuff to do today .
[19:05] <BluesKaj> bb later tonite
[19:06] <bmv> No les entiendo
[19:16] <LuisJa> LOL poor guy... at least i understand pretty well the 2 languages: english and spanish, but he is here and he only talks spanish... Lol...
[19:23] <ImpRadar> can any one help me understand this command "cd $(dirname $DATABASE)". I understand that $Database is a varible. but why pu dirname there. is this a function on "cd"
[19:24] <maco> ImpRadar, $() means to substitute in the result of the command inside it
[19:24] <maco> same as `, but nestable
[19:42] <havocologe> what can be the problem that i not able to mount my smbfs by fstab. i am only able to mount it by console.
[19:42] <havocologe> /uweheimneu/DATEN\ \(F\) /netmnt/daten_uwe smbfs defaults,username=xxx,passwd= 0 0 is not working in the fstab
[19:49] <sithlord48> afternoon everyone
[19:52] <jonah1980> hey guys, I am a website designer and have a particular client who sometimes needs help on windows to use his outlook express and things like that. it's not normally something i do but i said i'd help him. the problem is he rings me a lot or i have to go round to his house. i wondered if there's an easy way to use vnc from my kubuntu box at home to take over his machine to sort out his settings etc? can anyone pl
[19:52] <jonah1980> . he won't know his ip and things like, so i could do with an easy solution to connect to him, such as msn network if possible?
[19:53] <sithlord48> you have him
[19:53] <dpreacher> hello everyone. I need help with enabling my wifi interface.
[19:54] <dpreacher> I'm hoping to avoid windows drivers
[19:56] <sithlord48> jonah1980: you can set him up w/ a dynamic dns relay then instead of an ip he will have a human friendly name you can for free set this up w/ sites like dyndns.org
[19:57] <jonah1980> sithlord48, ok that sounds good, is this easy to do, would i need his ip to set up his dynamic and how would i put this into a vnc, is there a kubuntu vnc gui solution or do i have to pick one?
[19:59] <sithlord48> joanh1980, very simple you set him up w/ an account he sets up his free dynamic dns relay and get a name mine is dopplereffect.shacknet.nu then you do one of two things to sync his ip you can set it up in the router most have a config to handle this or you can use there the dyndns client program to do it on his computer just remember to foward ports for vnc if you have a router in his system then to connect you just use his dns instead o
[20:00] <sithlord48> joanh1980: the only annoyance is that every 30 days he will get an email and have to click a link in it to keep his dyndns account active..
[20:01] <sithlord48> dpreacher: do you know what kind of wifi card/chip you have ?
[20:01] <Matisse> I need some help with using more than 2 audio channel. I have 2 soundcards, one onboard and another. Both have only 1 output channel. With Windoze it was to use input channels for output and output channels from both sound cards. Is this possible with ubuntu?
[20:02] <dpreacher> bcm4311. thats roughly the version sithlord48. let me type out some more details
[20:02] <dpreacher> When i type sudo iwconfig i see wlan0 is the wireless interface, so i assign the essid and other required params using iwconfig, but when i try to bring the interface up using sudo ifconfig wlan0 up it says SIOC...FLAGS: Interface not found. how do i make it find the interface that it itself lists?
[20:03] <sithlord48> does it show in your ifconfig ?
[20:04] <sithlord48> dpreacher, does your network use wpa or another encryption method ?
[20:05] <dpreacher> no encryption.  kept it open to test this card. yes wlan0 shows up in iwconfig and ifconfig -a
[20:05] <dpreacher> is ifconfig lying
[20:05] <sithlord48> dpreacher, does lshw show a driver assigned to the card and can your varifiy its running w/ modprobe ?
[20:06] <dpreacher> i've to bring my machine. give me some time.
[20:07] <sithlord48> dpreacher, also does your machine have a hard switch to turn on/off your wifi radio (if so make sure its on)
[20:09] <dpreacher> no hard switch. its a almost 2 yr old dell inspiron 1501 with no OS default. its running 9.04 kubuntu right now. doin a lshw now
[20:10] <shamil> Hi
[20:11] <shamil> Hey
[20:13] <dpreacher> sithlord48 gimme some time to read thru all the device list. i hav to manually type it here, whatever my observations are
[20:13] <sithlord48> dpreacher, take ur time
[20:24] <dpreacher> sithlord48 http://dpaste.com/57664/
[20:25] <sithlord48> dpreacher, do your find ssb in lsmod as a running module ?
[20:25] <dpreacher> checkin :)
[20:29] <dpreacher> lsmod | grep -i ssb gives "ssb           46724     2  b43,b44"
[20:29] <dpreacher> spacing is approx. am manually typing it out on another machine here
[20:31] <sithlord48> dpreacher, is this a new install or did this issue just develop one day?
[20:35] <dpreacher> i've not been able to make this wifi work since i bought the machine and i've still not given up on it. i've used kubuntu since gutsy. but have always heard "mumble mumble broadcom linux-unfriendly mumble mumble" like forever. i've had some success in turning on the wifi. led came on and net worked with some other distro. vector i think. but by chance. as for installation. yes effectively my...
[20:35] <dpreacher> ...distro is a new install as i didn't upgrade using alt cd but overwrote existing / with the new distro files.
[20:38] <sithlord48> dpreacher, perhaps you can find your solution on the forum.
[20:39] <dpreacher> this isnt like a live forum? thanks much for your interest so far sithlord48 :)
[20:40] <sithlord48> dpreacher, have you tried ndiswrapper , i know that but on the forum there are some good faq's about wifi one might help you
[20:40] <dpreacher> nooo
[20:40] <dpreacher> sithlord48 i entered the room and i wished aloud i want to avoid ndiswrapper if possible.
[20:41] <dpreacher> i've been thru those faq's since i had gutsy
[20:42] <dpreacher> i think i'll hav to measure LAN cable needed for now. why is dell/broadcom so bad? :(
[20:42] <sithlord48> dpreacher, yes i noticed that, you wanted to avoid ndiswrapper.i was just asking if you had tried it.
[20:43] <sithlord48> idk i had a broadcom pcmica card for about 15 min after i installed kubuntu on my machine then i found on ebay a cheep minipci atheros card that works great was cheep too
[20:43] <dpreacher> yes...had downloaded drivers, extracted then got ndiswrapper...followed a ubuntu site document. it used to never accept ap any saying invalid ap.
[20:44] <dpreacher> why should I buy when I already spent on one hardware...and its a laptop component, built-in..i can't break it off and sell it
[20:46] <neoandersen> Hello! How to add a stream to amarok?
[20:46] <Unksi> neoandersen: just paste it to the field you normally would type the filename/path?
[20:48] <neoandersen> I did but it show as having too many errors and didn't work...
[20:48] <Unksi> ok
[20:48] <Unksi> which version of amarok?
[20:48] <neoandersen> amarok 2
[20:48] <Unksi> ok
[20:49] <neoandersen> the link to embed ends by an player.swf Is that the correct link?
[20:50] <Soma_> how do I select which graphics card driver to use
[20:50] <Unksi> in menu, there is "playlist".. have you tried "add stream" under that?
[20:50] <neoandersen> I did
[20:50] <Unksi> ok
[20:50] <neoandersen> I have tried the 2 ways to add stream...
[20:51] <Unksi> no idea then.. those have worked for me so far and cant find any other options for it :/
[20:51] <Zorael> Could someone please try installing the Jaunty gupnp-tools package and try starting gupnp-universal-cp in a terminal? I just get http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/200259
[20:51] <Unksi> what kind of errors did it give?
[20:51] <Soma_> I need
[20:52] <Soma_> my drivers
[20:52] <neoandersen> "too many errors encountered in playlint..."
[20:52] <Unksi> ok
[20:52] <Soma_> the driver that kubuntu selected is faulty, I had to change it before in kde 3.5 but they appear to have removed the driver section from system settings
[20:52] <Soma_> it used to be under display
[20:52] <Soma_> I would like to select which graphics card driver to use
[20:54] <Dragnslcr> Soma_- K Menu -> System -> Hardware Drivers
[20:55] <Walzmyn> Soma_: applications-> system > hardware drivers
[20:55] <Walzmyn> bah
[20:55] <dpreacher> anyone can help me get broadcom 4311 working with kubuntu jaunty. i get confused between fwcutter and ndiswrapper. which path to take?
[20:55] <Dragnslcr> <- Winner!
[20:55] <Soma_> neither of you are winners
[20:55] <Soma_> that's not what I wanted
[20:56] <Soma_> it just says no proprietary drivers are in use on this system
[20:56] <Soma_> I need to select which display driver to use
[20:56] <Walzmyn> Soma_: that's where you can select them
[20:56] <Soma_> I can upload a screenshot if you don't believe me, sir
[20:56] <Soma_> there are no options
[20:56] <Soma_> there are no drivers displayed
[20:56] <Dragnslcr> What kind of video card do you have?
[20:56] <Soma_> just Help
[20:56] <Soma_> and Close
[20:57] <Walzmyn> hmm
[20:57] <Soma_> 00:00.0 Host bridge: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/PM/GMS, 943/940GML and 945GT Express Memory Controller Hub (rev 03)
[20:57] <Soma_> pretty sure that's my video card on lspci
[20:57] <Soma_> oh nevermind
[20:57] <Dragnslcr> Ah
[20:57] <Zorael> Soma_: Well, no, that's your host bridge. :3
[20:58] <Zorael> lspci | grep VGA
[20:58] <Dragnslcr> Might be because Intel doesn't use proprietary drivers
[20:58] <Soma_> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile 945GM/GMS, 943/940GML Express Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 03)
[20:58] <Soma_> no way Dragnslcr
[20:58] <Soma_> I know thsi from last time I had to change the drivers
[20:58] <Zorael> Soma_: With an Intel controller you should already be using the intel driver, no need to manually select it
[20:58] <Soma_> which was just under system settings -> display
[20:59] <Soma_> there are like 5 compatible drivers Zorael
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> Intel's drivers are open source. I'm not sure if the Hardware Drivers app is used for them
[20:59] <Soma_> I want to select it
[20:59] <Soma_> in ubuntu 8.10 it was just under display
[20:59] <Walzmyn> Soma_: the only drivers for intel are built into the kernel
[20:59] <Soma_> a list of all drivers you could use for xserver
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> I've never had a system with Intel video, so I'm not sure exactly how it works
[20:59] <Dragnslcr> !intel
[21:00] <Dragnslcr> Hm, that's actually not what I wanted
[21:00] <Zorael> Soma_: Wait, what? With a recent controller (945) you *want* to be using the "intel" driver which I bet is what it's using now, per default
[21:00] <Walzmyn> Soma_: what driver is called for in your xorg.conf?
[21:01] <Dragnslcr> Open /etc/X11/xorg.conf and see what it says for Driver
[21:01] <Zorael> For intel cards you basically have vesa, intel, and i740 (if it even exists anymore)
[21:01] <Soma_> this would be
[21:01] <Soma_> Dragnslcr I know
[21:01] <Soma_> jesus
[21:02] <commander_> does anyone has kooldocks
[21:03] <Zorael> So sure, there are like 5 (3) compatible drivers, two of which are wrong and the third is used per default, if the hardware abstraction layer autodetecting is even half-working
[21:04] <Soma_> what line exactly am I looking for
[21:04] <Soma_> device?
[21:04] <Soma_> the line driver does not exist in my conf
[21:04] <Dragnslcr> Is there a Section "Device" ?
[21:05] <jjesse> good evening, i have a dell laptop and have added a 2nd hard drive via an enclosure, what do i have to do to have it mount correctly?
[21:05] <Dragnslcr> It's the last section for me
[21:05] <Zorael> You'll need to create the driver line yourself; it not being there just means X relies on whatever it autodetects
[21:06] <Dragnslcr> I would guess that whatever X autodetects should work fine
[21:06] <Walzmyn> jjesse: all I have to do for mine is plug it in
[21:07] <jjesse> Walzmyn: hrm i have it plugged in and rebooted, it shows up in bios, maybe i'm not seeing it as it isn't formated?
[21:07] <Dragnslcr> jjesse- yeah, if there are no partitions, of course nothing will be mounted
[21:08] <Walzmyn> jjesse: oh yeah, you'll have to format it first, you need help with that?
[21:08] <jjesse> Dragnslcr: is there a gui program i need to use to format it?
[21:08] <jjesse> or is it all command line?
[21:08] <Dragnslcr> Either partitionmanager or gparted
[21:08] <Walzmyn> jjesse: both, the KDE app is called qtparted
[21:08] <jjesse> i thought at one time in systems settings there was a "disk" section
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> Nope, qtparted isn't maintained anymore
[21:09] <commander_> hello!1
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> There was, but it didn't do partition editing
[21:09] <jjesse> Dragnslcr: so gparted is the best?
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> The KDE4 app is just called partitionmanager (I know, I know)
[21:09] <Dragnslcr> gparted is the Gnome app
[21:09] <Walzmyn> qtparted is not maintained anymore! bah
[21:10] <jjesse> thanks for thelp guys
[21:10] <Dragnslcr> I've used partitionmanager, and it works well. It just takes forever to start up
[21:10] <Dragnslcr> They should change it so that it at least shows a window before it starts scanning the disks
[21:12] <Walzmyn> i just installed partitionamanger, it fired up liketysplit for me
[21:12] <jjesse> it fired up quickly for me as well
[21:12] <jjesse> pretty impressed
[21:12] <Dragnslcr> Hm, maybe it just hates me then
[21:12]  * jjesse adds notes to self and documentation
[21:12] <Walzmyn> oy! my / partition is almost full
[21:13] <jjesse> now i have a 160GB drive and a 300GB drive in my laptop
[21:13] <Dragnslcr> Maybe it's slow for me because I have two 500 GB disks and two 250 GB disks
[21:14] <Walzmyn> Dragnslcr: that might have something to do with it
[21:15] <Walzmyn> i'm also runnining a pretty fast machine here
[21:15] <Dragnslcr> Been about two minutes now
[21:15] <Walzmyn> wow, "apt-get clean" cleared up about 1.5 gigs off of my / partition
[21:16] <Dragnslcr> Could be ktorrent blocking it
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> There we go
[21:17] <Walzmyn> umm
[21:17] <Walzmyn> ok, i had a notice of a plasma crash
[21:17] <Dragnslcr> Is it 1.0.0-BETA1 for you?
[21:18] <Walzmyn> now, i don't have a taskbar and my alt-f2 launcher thingy is not working
[21:18] <Zorael> Walzmyn: You could switch to a tty console (ctrl+alt+f1) and enter "DISPLAY=:0 plasma-desktop &"
[21:19] <Walzmyn> Zorael: what will that do?
[21:19] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: for alt+F2 you can open a terminal and type ' krunner '
[21:19] <Walzmyn> and why does ctr+alt+backspace not work anymore?
[21:19] <Zorael> Walzmyn: start plasma-desktop on the desktop environment's "display"
[21:20] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: disabled by upstream
[21:20] <Walzmyn> shadeslayer: i can't open a terminal because i have no taskbar and the krunner ain't working
[21:20] <shadeslayer> Walzmyn: uh..right click > run
[21:20] <Zorael> Walzmyn: You could likewise do "DISPLAY=:0 krunner &"
[21:20] <commander_> i need help
[21:20] <shadeslayer> commander_: please be more specific
[21:20] <Walzmyn> shadeslayer: right click does nothing as well. - i'm going to do what zorael said
[21:20] <commander_> i downloaded KOOLDOCKS and now i can't find it
[21:21] <shadeslayer> commander_: kooldocks?
[21:21] <commander_> yeah u can find it in adept
[21:21] <Zorael> (kooldock)
[21:22] <commander_> like cairo dock and AWN
[21:22] <shadeslayer> Zorael: oh.. -s -.-
[21:22] <shadeslayer> commander_: in a terminal type kooldock
[21:23] <Walzmyn> Zorael: weal, that worked, but it crashed again immediatly. i'ma reboot and see what I get
[21:23] <commander_> i did and a welcome box came up
[21:24] <shadeslayer> commander_: there you have it :) .. now close the terminal and you can open the dock via : alt+F2 > kooldock
[21:24] <commander_> ok i'm pressing it
[21:27] <shadeslayer> commander_: anything else you need help with ?? im off to sleep in 5 min
[21:27] <commander_> yeah so how do i bring it up on kmenu permanently?
[21:28] <shadeslayer> commander_: see a search box on top of the menu when you click the K in the taskbar?
[21:28] <commander_> yeah i c it
[21:29] <shadeslayer> commander_: search for kooldock and then right click and add to favourites
[21:30] <shadeslayer> commander_: done?
[21:31] <commander_> didn't happen. get ur sleep on i'll hit u later shade
[21:31] <shadeslayer> commander_: oh,couldnt you see the app there??
[21:31] <shadeslayer> in the search results?
[21:32] <jjesse> one other question on my new drive that is now formated it is mounted and only writeable by root or with admin password, is that something i need to change in /etc/fstab?
[21:32]  * shadeslayer needs a interesting problem to stay awake
[21:32] <shadeslayer> jjesse: which partition?? NTFS?
[21:32] <agata> hmm here goes a silly question.. but when i go to the package manager.. is ther any way of seeing it by program name and not by library name? got confused all the time
[21:32] <commander_> nope.nada
[21:33] <shadeslayer> commander_: i dont know but try and see if you can add custom commands to the menu...im not too sure that theres an option but you can try
[21:34] <shadeslayer> agata: like seeing only the meta package?
[21:34] <agata> yeah shadeslayer just one.. seeing all the libraries name confuses me a lot.. maybe like adept installer used to look... an icon and the name of the program to install...
[21:35] <agata> i just installed 9.04 and i am slightly lost
[21:35] <shadeslayer> agata: well you can do apt-cache search <package_name>
[21:35] <agata> hmm but i think i will have to reinstall
[21:35] <agata> i cannot use it something is wrong
[21:35] <shadeslayer> agata: that lists packages and lists a short description
[21:36] <shadeslayer> agata: what!! you cannont use apt-cache??
[21:36] <shadeslayer> *cannot?
[21:36] <agata> it did not work before
[21:36] <jjesse_> sorry computer locked up, it is an ext3 parition
[21:36] <agata> i will give another try now, kpackagekit is not working at all here
[21:36] <agata> but apt-get.. ill try again
[21:37] <shadeslayer> agata: you might need to reinstall...a bad ISO maybe?
[21:37] <agata> hmm took it from the same place than always
[21:37] <agata> oh so apt-get is working
[21:38] <agata> is just kpackagemanager
[21:38] <shadeslayer> jjesse: if this partition is on a external HD , you will need to supply the password everytime,or you can add a line to fstab to mount it directly
[21:38] <shadeslayer> agata: sudo apt-get install kpackagekit
[21:38] <agata> anyway shadeslayer the installation ended too early, the computer turned off (it ovrheats a bit)
[21:38] <jjesse> shadeslayer: its an internal drive in a second enclosure
[21:38] <agata> and i dunno if that might have messed up something
[21:39] <agata> i see there is some problemwith xulrunner, apparently.. i will reinstall tomorrow *sigh*
[21:39] <shadeslayer> jjesse: oh,i got it,if you want it mount automatically add a line to fstab , if you want it mount when you click it you can check the box which says remember authorization
[21:39] <shadeslayer> agata: too bad
[21:39] <jjesse> shadeslayer: ok thanks
[21:40] <DaskreeCH> agata: What's the problem?
[21:40] <agata> no idea DaskreeCH just some error message when using aptget
[21:40] <DaskreeCH> what error?
[21:40] <agata> yet the software got installed
[21:40] <shadeslayer> jjesse: you can easily see the fstab entries and manipulate them to your needs , sudo fdisk -l gives the device mount point and blkid gives UUID
[21:40] <agata> i will pastebin it sec
[21:42] <agata> here it is DaskreeCH http://pastebin.com/m2f0b9ba6
[21:43] <DaskreeCH> agata: sudo apt-get -f install
[21:43] <agata> ok
[21:43] <agata> and paste it?
[21:43] <DaskreeCH> did it error out?
[21:43] <jjesse> shadeslayer: thanks for the awesome help
[21:44] <agata> nope
[21:44] <agata> appeared again DaskreeCH :)
[21:44] <agata> sec i will paste it
[21:44] <DaskreeCH> sudo apt-get dist-upgrade
[21:45] <shadeslayer> jjesse: no problem :)
[21:45] <shadeslayer> good night all
[21:45] <agata> ok now is working DaskreeCH
[21:45] <agata> i mean
[21:45] <agata> downloading... we will see if it works
[21:46] <DaskreeCH> :-) I like you
[21:47] <agata> how comes DaskreeCH?
[21:47] <agata> jeez im smoking like a dragon today ;(
[21:49] <agata> and again DaskreeCH the very same error
[22:01] <DaskreeCH> agata: Grr
[22:06] <bmv> ola
[22:11] <ragarth> I've got a lexmark x2600 printer configured using the lexmark drivers on kubuntu 8.10. lpr, openoffice, and the lexmark utilities work fine, but everything else fails to print. In the error log, I get "(/usr/local/lexmark/lxk08/bin/printdriver) stopped with status 1!" "(/usr/lib/cups/filter/pdftoraster) stopped with status 1!". Am I stupid for thinking that all the failing programs are having their output treated as pdf's?
[22:23] <linux_> bonjour,je suis français et je debute sur linux,qui peut m expliquer le fonctionnement et le but dece chat
[22:26] <DaskreeCH> !fr | linux
[22:26] <linux_> oki,merci
[22:34] <keri> hello
[22:36] <JohnFlux> Hey all
[22:36] <JohnFlux> kubuntu.org says:
[22:36] <JohnFlux> What type of computer do you
[22:36] <JohnFlux> it accidently the whole word
[22:36] <JohnFlux> http://www.kubuntu.org/getkubuntu/download
[22:38] <keri> join  #unity-coders
[22:38] <JohnFlux> is it possible to download a dvd iso of kubuntu?
[22:38] <JohnFlux> My university blocks bittorrent :-(
[22:39] <Dragnslcr> JohnFlux- yeah, some of the mirrors should have it
[22:39] <Dragnslcr> I'll try to dig one up
[22:39] <JohnFlux> cool
[22:40] <Dragnslcr> As far as I know, the DVD only has extra language packages, so you most likely only need the CD anyway
[22:40] <DaskreeCH> JohnFlux: yes
[22:40] <DaskreeCH> Dragnslcr: not so
[22:41] <Dragnslcr> That's what I kept getting for an answer here
[22:41] <DaskreeCH> JohnFlux: What version?
[22:41] <JohnFlux> 9.04
[22:42] <DaskreeCH> http://cdimages.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> http://cdimage.ubuntu.com/kubuntu/releases/9.04/release/
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> Bah
[22:42] <Dragnslcr> I hate you
[22:43] <DaskreeCH> <3
[22:43] <DaskreeCH> Dragnslcr: DVD has both live and alternate installs as well as having the entire main repo on it so it can be used to update an older version just from the DVD
[22:44] <Dragnslcr> That's what I thought, but I kept getting told that wasn't the case
[22:45] <DaskreeCH> That would be news to me I'd really like to know how I've been doing that all this time then
[22:45] <Dragnslcr> Heh
[22:46] <Dragnslcr> Well that makes me feel a little better about seeding the torrents for the DVD's
[22:46] <DaskreeCH> Why?
[22:47] <CBFreak> Hi, I've a problem... I'm using Ubuntu with KDE, Gnome and others desktops, and when I rotatate the cube, I see in the face one, the Gnome's desktop. Is this possible??? How I can fix it? Sorry for my english, I'm from Argentina.
[22:47] <CBFreak> rotate*
[22:48] <Dragnslcr> You aren't expecting to see different desktop environments on each side of the cube, are you?
[22:48] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: why are you saying sorry for english.. it looks tfine to me
[22:48] <LadyNikon> Dragnslcr: its typically only one desktop environment
[22:48] <CBFreak> LadyNikon, thanks...
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> LadyNikon- yes, I know, that's why I'm making sure that that isn't what CBFreak is expecting
[22:49] <CBFreak> Drangnslcr: I'm using only KDE 4.2
[22:49] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- so you're using KDE right now?
[22:49] <CBFreak> I'm expecting to see only KDE, no KDE above Gnome
[22:49] <CBFreak> Dragnslcr: yes
[22:50] <Dragnslcr> And what exactly happens when you rotate the cube?
[22:50] <spinfusor> hubye frebenz... I'm trying to upgrade the restricted packages but as soon as I get the blue screen verifying java's install, I can't click OK out of it... any help? (to update the restricted packages)
[22:50] <CBFreak> Draglor: I see the normal cube, but above the Gnome desktop
[22:51] <CBFreak> The face one of the cube, the desktop one, has KDE and Gnome in the back
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> I guess I don't understand what you mean
[22:52] <LadyNikon> Dragnslcr: what CBFreak means is that he/she is seeing kde and gnome in the same instance.. on different sides of the cube
[22:52] <LadyNikon> instead of seeing all gnome or all KDE.
[22:52] <Dragnslcr> Except that isn't really possible
[22:52] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: nono, in the same side
[22:52] <LadyNikon> oh wow
[22:53] <CBFreak> I'm a man
[22:53] <CBFreak> :P
[22:53] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: i dont assume
[22:53] <DaskreeCH> CBFreak: Can you give us screenshot?
[22:53] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- what exactly do you mean by "Gnome in the back"
[22:53] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, a screenshot would help
[22:53] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: so you turn the cube.. and you see gnome and kde on the same side.. gotcha
[22:53] <Dragnslcr> You don't just mean Gnome applications, do you?
[22:54] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: are you sure its not a background thats similar or something?
[22:54] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: nono, I see Gnome's wallpapers and icons
[22:54] <LadyNikon> and kde's wallpaper and icons at the same time?
[22:54] <CBFreak> back KDE, KDE is above gnome, I don't know, I'm spanish :P
[22:55] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: yes
[22:55] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: there is a #kubuntu-es
[22:55] <LadyNikon> if you feel there is a language barrier
[22:55] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: yes, but they don't help me
[22:55] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, we'd need a screenshot
[22:55] <LadyNikon> kde on the top and gnome on the bottom
[22:55] <LadyNikon> all in the same screen on the same side.
[22:56] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: YESS!!!!
[22:56] <LadyNikon> gotcha
[22:56] <LadyNikon> see that was simple :p
[22:56] <LadyNikon> can you toggle between the two? or do you see the mouse move twice?
[22:57] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: sorry, I don't understand... the others faces of the cube are ok
[22:57] <spinfusor> I get to the Package Configuration for Sun java6-bin (licensing portion) I can't click out of it to continue the update... any tips?
[22:57] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: you say you have 2 instances of a desktop session running at one time
[22:57] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- take a screenshot and post it somewhere we can see it
[22:58] <LadyNikon> i am wondering if you can see the mouse move in both of them
[22:59] <CBFreak> LadyNikon:  no, the mouse is moving only in KDE
[22:59] <LadyNikon> ok
[22:59] <CBFreak> I'll try to make an screenshot
[22:59] <LadyNikon> did you try to reboot your windows manager?
[22:59] <CBFreak> LadyNikon:  yes, I reboot the system too
[23:00] <LadyNikon> still no va huh?
[23:00] <LadyNikon> brb
[23:01] <CBFreak> still that
[23:06] <CBFreak> there's my screenshot: http://rapidshare.com/files/246791651/screenshot.png.html
[23:07]  * LadyNikon sighs
[23:07] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- post it to http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[23:08] <LadyNikon> ohh
[23:08] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: thats not kde on top of gnome
[23:08] <LadyNikon> oh wait
[23:08] <LadyNikon> yes it is
[23:08] <LadyNikon> thats creepy
[23:09] <LadyNikon> heh i thought you took a pic with your camera
[23:09] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: what?
[23:10] <LadyNikon> and the mouse moves around the gnome session
[23:10] <LadyNikon> does the clodk and time move also?
[23:10] <LadyNikon> clock*
[23:12] <CBFreak> LadyNikon: the mouse doesn't move on the Gnome desktop, only on KDE
[23:12] <LadyNikon> CBFreak: does it move over it though
[23:13] <LadyNikon> i dont see the icons for KDE.
[23:14] <CBFreak> The icons for KDE are in the bottom-left
[23:14] <commander_> does anyone have kooldock
[23:15] <CBFreak> some idea?
[23:17] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- all I get from the link you posted is a landing page. Try putting your screenshot on http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add
[23:17] <CBFreak> I'll put that on there too: http://img265.imageshack.us/img265/6085/screenshotr.png
[23:18] <CBFreak> I put that already
[23:18] <CBFreak> wow i don't know to speak :P
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> If that's real, I don't even know how you could ever work like that
[23:20] <Dragnslcr> Do you really have your working area at that weird angle in the middle of the screen?
[23:23] <linda_> Dragnslcr: it's a desktop cube being rotated =)
[23:23] <Twittery> Hi, does anyone know how to cancel the music at the startup
[23:24] <CBFreak> linda_:  yes, is that
[23:24] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- so you only get those Gnome desktop icons while the cube is rotating?
[23:25] <Dragnslcr> Twittery- System Settings -> Notifications, then for Event source it's KDE System Notifications
[23:26] <Twittery> Thanks
[23:27] <DaskreeCH> CBFreak: Do you have Gnome installed?
[23:27] <CBFreak> DaskreeCH: yes, I have
[23:27] <DaskreeCH> and you use compiz in it?
[23:28] <DaskreeCH> And I guess this is compiz in KDE?
[23:28] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, I was wondering if compiz and kwin are both running at the same time and getting in each other's way
[23:28] <LuisJa> my kde control module says i have 4 actualizations blocked, why?
[23:29] <DaskreeCH> can you have them run at the same time?
[23:29] <DaskreeCH> I've never seen that
[23:29] <Dragnslcr> LuisJa- you mean updates?
[23:29] <LuisJa> yes
[23:29] <CBFreak> NONO I'M USING KWIN ONLY
[23:30] <DaskreeCH> CBFreak: Oh then I don't know I was thinking that it would be the Compiz buffer being written in  from the cache
[23:30] <Dragnslcr> LuisJa- yeah, I'm not sure why they're blocked, when they used to work fine. If you want to install the kernel updates, you can run "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"
[23:30] <CBFreak> LuisJa: I don't know what, but you fix that with "sudo aptitude safe-upgrade"
[23:30] <DaskreeCH> I would hope that kwin and compiz use differnt buffers though
[23:30] <CBFreak> DaskreeCH: yes, that is logic
[23:31] <LuisJa> thx guys
[23:31] <CBFreak> LuisJa: wlcm
[23:32] <linda_> guys, i wanted to update amarok, added http://ppa.launchpad.net/kubuntu-ppa/backports/ubuntu jaunty  main repo to kpackagemanager, but can't find the pgp key
[23:32] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- press ctrl-esc to bring up the System Monitor and look for a process named compiz
[23:32] <linda_> where can i get it?
[23:33] <SinaR>  http://paste.ubuntu-nl.org/
[23:35] <Dragnslcr> linda_- the bot knows, but I can't remember what to ask to get it
[23:35] <linda_> ?
[23:36] <CBFreak> Dragnslcr: thax!!! solved!!! http://img132.imageshack.us/img132/5741/screenshot2cmd.png
[23:36] <CBFreak> nautilus has running
[23:36] <Dragnslcr> !pgperr | linda_
[23:37] <Dragnslcr> !gpgerr | linda_
[23:37] <Dragnslcr> I think that's it
[23:37] <CBFreak> How can I make to nautilus dont run in the next time?
[23:37] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- ah, that would probably do it
[23:38] <CBFreak> Dragnslcr:  IS FIXING THANK!!!
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> CBFreak- check System Settings -> Advanced -> Autostart, make sure it isn't there
[23:38] <CBFreak> Dragnslcr: okok, thank you... I'll see that
[23:38] <Dragnslcr> There are other places it could be, too
[23:40] <Twittery> I hate big updates
[23:40] <CBFreak> I'll restart the sesion to make sure that is fixing...
[23:40] <CBFreak> I will come back
[23:40] <CBFreak> THANKS TO ALL!!!
[23:40] <FloodBotK2> CBFreak: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.
[23:42] <Dragnslcr> Oh, be quiet, bot
[23:43] <CBFreak> jaja
[23:43] <CBFreak> bye, i will come back
[23:49] <CBFreak> Is all right :D
[23:55] <Walzmyn> ever since i upgraded to 9.04 this week, Pidgin won't connect to yahoo, anybody else having that problem?
[23:56] <[buRn]> Walzmyn: it is known bug, and they are going to fix it :D
[23:57] <Dragnslcr> Yeah, Yahoo broke the protocol
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> Using cs107.msg.mud.yahoo.com for a server works for me
[23:58] <Dragnslcr> It's actually just a coincidence that you upgraded to 9.04 at the same time
[23:59] <unix> hello