[00:42] <dashua> kwwii: Do you need any help with Karmic's theme or are things going to remain pretty much status quo until 10.04?
[00:42] <dashua> I'd be more than happy to hack around in my free time. :)
[07:04] <macvr> guys... has anyone seen this?  http://pinstack.blogspot.com/2009/06/13-things-to-get-excited-for-in-ubuntu.html
[07:05] <macvr> there is a lot of hype about the new theme... which should be nipped in the bug... otherwise a lot of disappointed souls :(
[07:06] <macvr> the origin is mostly from Marks's comment that a new theme/color will be used in Karmic, which i dont think is gonna happen till karmic+1
[07:11] <kwwii> macvr: although nobody said it directly it was understood that a new theme would come but there is not going to be a new theme for karmic
[07:12] <kwwii> we are working on the basis for new theming but we want to get it right
[07:12] <kwwii> so the planning took longer than expected
[07:14] <macvr> kwwii: actually , Mark has said there will be a new color they "might" use in karmic...  i too have read this some where, but not able to find the link... but also mark has said on the wiki irc interview log that it might be karmic+1 , but this second change doesnt seem to have reached many...
[07:15] <macvr> kwwii: maybe you could blog about it?
[07:16] <macvr> let me see if i can search my history, for the links... :)
[07:19] <kwwii> macvr: well, mark said it would happen and then took that back in another post so it is confusing
[07:20] <kwwii> also, I have been working on a new theme myself...so maybe there will be something different in karmic but it will not be default
[07:20] <macvr> maybe someone cold clear it up :) , we dont want to disappoint anyone,do we ;P
[07:20] <macvr> could^
[07:20] <macvr> oh!
[07:21] <macvr> kwwii: links for the theme? so that i could test it out?
[07:22] <kwwii> at this point it is little more than pictures
[07:22] <kwwii> but I have a good idea how I am going to make it
[07:22] <macvr> :)
[08:41] <darkmatter> as long as it's not wood grain we won't have to kill ya
[11:56] <thorwil> already: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/KarmicCountdownBanners
[12:07] <SiDi> you didnt upload the svg ?
[12:09] <thorwil> SiDi: the guy who put up that page didn't think of adding the attachment. the text is just from last time. good thing you notice :)
[12:10] <SiDi> i see :D
[12:13]  * thorwil decides to quickly adjust the template
[12:26] <thorwil> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Website/KarmicCountdownBanners?action=AttachFile&do=get&target=countdown_09-10_template.svg
[12:26] <thorwil> hooray for cloned copies!
[15:13] <macvr> thorwil: so it was your banner they used for jaunty... i liked that one... was nice :)
[15:40] <thorwil> macvr: thanks :)  the last 2, even
[15:43] <macvr> oh... i particular like the last one... it was a "kinda" futuristic design :)
[15:45] <thorwil> i already started to think about the next one. i wonder if i could pull off something with photography. though that is bound to be time consuming
[15:46] <macvr> i hope your energy is directed more towards a new background ... its used more than a 30 day banner
[15:47] <thorwil> yes, but the countdown banners are great fun and i have a very high chance of being picked again, totally unlike the background situation
[15:47] <macvr> :P
[15:51] <macvr> thorwil: http://files.getdropbox.com/u/1325768/Screenshot-4%20-%20File%20Browser.png <<<what is the icon label for the mime below?
[15:52] <macvr> i'm just not able to find it!
[15:52] <thorwil> macvr: no clue
[15:53] <macvr> thorwil: do you like that behavior? it is the mime which shows , during the wait time for the preview to load
[15:53] <macvr> i'm thinking of editing one for breathe
[15:54] <thorwil> macvr: i rarely get to see that. i think it's fine
[15:55] <macvr> me too... i had a tought ime getting that screenshot :P... but while videos are loading the preview it shows for a bit longer... so i feel the transparent appearance gives it a incomplete feel
[15:55] <macvr> tough^
[16:13] <macvr> found it /usr/share/icons/gnome/.../status/gnome-fs-loading-icon :)
[16:14] <thorwil> :)
[18:05] <macvr> thorwil: have you seen madsRh's branding mail? doesnt it seem a bit too loud?
[18:06] <macvr> i thought of sending a comment about it , but didnt ...
[18:23] <thorwil> macvr: well, it's not exactly elegant to plaster ubuntu branding all over the place
[18:25] <macvr> thats true... but isnt the branding being considered or is it a proposal? also instead of the gnome logo ubuntu's logo wouldnt hurt...but what do you think is wrong with that card?
[18:26] <macvr> thorwil: i didnt like the dark blue, it kinda hurt my eyes :( , felt the blue from the gnome was more pleasant
[18:27] <thorwil> macvr: i didn't look that closely. sometimes i decide to just not care
[18:27] <macvr> :P
[18:28]  * macvr hopes thorwil cares a little bit more about ubuntu :P
[18:28] <thorwil> macvr: pay me and i would ;p
[18:29] <macvr> i vote for thorwil being inducted into canonical
[18:29] <macvr> thorwil: i think SABDFL will pay more than me
[18:29] <macvr> :P
[18:31] <thorwil> macvr: already tried that route
[18:32] <macvr> thorwil: ah... well their loss :/
[18:40] <SiDi> the cards dont need SPECIFIC branding | they just need to look decent enough for "end user" to dare clicking them :)
[18:41] <macvr> ^ +1
[18:42] <macvr> SiDi: well as Scott  pointed out... ayatana runs the show in a lot of things
[18:46] <SiDi> ayatana has grown so big in the past weeks that i can barely follow now
[18:46] <SiDi> ill try to cross-read that whole update-manager essay tonight and resume it in a wiki page
[18:47] <SiDi> (i hope noone did yet)
[18:49] <macvr> thorwil: inkscape question: i find that when copying between 2 svg images , if i open the svgs separately , i cannot copy paste among each other, but if i open the second svg from the menu of the first svg, i'm able to copy paste , is this the intended behavior or am i doing something wrong?
[18:50] <thorwil> macvr: inkscape is a little broken regarding copy-paste. i usually use Import
[18:50] <macvr> oh... ok... i'v never tried import, will try it... :)
[18:52] <macvr> thorwil: i totally forgot... did you check the 2nd version of the emblem unreadable...? i made it symmetrical , does it look better now?
[18:55] <thorwil> macvr: the angles in the 1st look better. so if could combine similar angles with symmetry, that would be best
[18:56] <macvr> yeah i like the first one too...
[18:56] <macvr> thorwil: both are symmetrical, you can cut them in any plane
[18:57] <macvr> i mean vertical and hori :P
[18:59] <thorwil> macvr: why did you imply it wasn't, then?
[19:00] <macvr> maybe you forgot... the first version i had done , i took it down , you said that the X didnt look  symm ,
[19:00] <macvr> thats y