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cjwatsonslangasek: managing to find a case where bash isn't a strict superset of dash is relatively good going though. (yes, I know there are a couple ...)00:20
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lfaraoneAre there any plans to make Empathy in the default in karmic or karmic+1?01:32
lfaraone(default IM clinet)01:32
toggleslol01:37
toggleslfaraone: you missed hug day mate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection01:38
TheMusodtchen: cool.01:49
lfaraonetoggles: just because I empathize with your problems doesn't mean I want to get all touchy-feely about it. :P01:59
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AnAntHello05:27
AnAntregarding Depending/Recommending default-mta05:28
AnAntI worked on mutt, and changed the Recommends from exim4 to default-mta05:28
AnAntand sent that to Debian, so they just replied me with the following:05:28
AnAntthe policy says that the first depend should be05:28
AnAntalways a real package and not a virtual (check debian policy 3.8.2);05:28
AnAntshould that be mentioned here on in the -server chanel ?05:29
AnAntdebian bug 53344205:37
ubottuDebian bug 533442 in mutt "mutt: Recommend default-mta instead of exim4" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/53344205:37
shastrywhy does the ubuntu installer assume that system time is UTC? it no longer gives me the option to set it!06:24
shastryi am talking about the 9.04 installer.06:24
lamontslangasek: where was the discussion that convinced me that default-mta should be a Provides:?06:26
lifelessttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/05/msg00068.html?06:27
lifeless[as a link in a thread about that]06:27
slangaseklamont: debian-devel in Feb/Mar, I guess?06:48
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shawhrm, how do I get an arm ppa build?08:43
cjwatsonshaw: you don't at the moment I'm afraid; there is no working virtualisation set up for arm so PPAs can't be offered08:44
cjwatsonshaw: there is some hope of this changing in the future but not very short-term08:45
shawcjwatson: ok, dang.08:45
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BUGabundoguud day11:04
BUGabundoany compiz experts around?11:04
BUGabundomvo is not here right now11:04
BUGabundohey MattJ11:56
MattJHi11:57
maxbAny devicekit-power wizards around who'd care to have a glance at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/+bug/384304 and recommend how to debug?12:42
ubottuLaunchpad bug 384304 in devicekit-power "devicekit-power fails to realize I'm on battery" [Undecided,New]12:42
RainCTAre there any plans to update portaudio? (Or, any reasons why it wouldn't be updated other than that nobody cares about it?)12:51
TheMusoinfinity: When you're around, mind giving me some pointers as to where I could start in debugging the powerpc texlive-base build issues experienced on the buildds? I haven't yet been able to reproduce it locally, and I'd like to get this fixed.13:32
dtchenRainCT: right, no current movement, so feel free to tackle14:29
MacSlowI really hate asking for help...14:58
MacSlowBut how is one supposed to geta  working ./configure into a package meant for building in a PPA?14:59
directhexnot sure i get the question15:00
MacSlowwell I had to update configure.in and examples/Makefile.am of notify-osd in trunk15:01
MacSlownow I want to build a PPA from an earlier attempt yesterday and just include the changes to notify-osd trunk in a "distro-patch"15:01
MacSlowI did that via cdbs-edit-patch and all is fine (almost i think)15:02
MacSlowbut the patched-in configure is not executable and the PPA-buildsytem can't find the ./configure thus fails15:02
directhexmake it executable in your configure-stamp rule?15:04
directhexoh, cdbs. pass.15:04
MacSlowand that means?15:04
MacSlowI mena which file to edit?15:05
directhexit means i don't know how to override cdbs behaviour enough to do what you want15:05
MacSlowdebian/rules15:05
MacSlowis debian rules applied before or after cdbs patches are applied?15:05
directhexbefore. debian/rules is the makefile which is executed in order to build the package. it's the makefile which contains a rule (or includes a rule from an external file) specifying HOW to apply debian/patches/foo15:06
Nafallos/before/while/15:07
MacSlowbtw... how comes configure isn't executable in the first place?15:08
MacSlowwhen I initially generated the 90_autoreconf.patch after I updated configure.in and examples/Makefile.am it was executable15:09
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lesshastehi16:48
lesshastehi RainCT16:49
lesshastehi mrooney16:50
lesshastehi mterry16:54
mterrylesshaste: Yo16:54
lesshasteI was wondering if anyone could give me advice on reporting/debugging a strange thing where "shutdown" actually "hibernates" on my laptop16:55
lesshasteit's not really clear to me even which log file is relevant16:55
lesshastethis is on jaunty 2.6.28-13-generic16:55
mterrylesshaste: /var/log/kern.log might be useful16:56
mterrylesshaste: But a likely culprit is gnome-power-manager...  Not sure where it logs to16:56
lesshasteah... I am certainly in gnome16:56
mterrylesshaste: 'ubuntu-bug gnome-power-manager' will probably pull in all useful logs for you16:57
lesshastethanks17:01
lesshastehow can you tell if you have just hibernated or suspended?17:01
lesshasteI mean, how can you tell them apart?17:01
lesshasteand ubuntu-bug crashed :)17:02
lesshastehttp://pastebin.ca/146771517:02
mrooneylesshaste: you might be better served in #ubuntu-bugs17:15
lesshastemrooney, thanks again17:16
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slangasekseb128, pitti: what has rewritten all the .desktop files on my karmic system and invalidated the packages' .checksums files?20:32
slangasek(will try to file bug eventually, but am in airport right now and this is incidental to the reason I'm running debsums in the first place)20:32
slangasekpitti: hmm - I think the new pkgbinarymangler stuff is rewriting .desktop files after dh_md5sums is already written out?20:37
slangasekyep, looks like it... the file on the filesystem matches the one in the package, but doesn't match the .md5sums file20:38
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Nyquist333Anyone know how to get started working with the Grub2 project. I need to know how to get my image to run in a VM for testing. I have to add a feature for my company.23:32

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