=== rickspencer3-afk is now known as rickspencer3 [00:20] slangasek: managing to find a case where bash isn't a strict superset of dash is relatively good going though. (yes, I know there are a couple ...) === test is now known as _iron === _iron is now known as ___iron [01:32] Are there any plans to make Empathy in the default in karmic or karmic+1? [01:32] (default IM clinet) [01:37] lol [01:38] lfaraone: you missed hug day mate, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection [01:49] dtchen: cool. [01:59] toggles: just because I empathize with your problems doesn't mean I want to get all touchy-feely about it. :P === nhandler_ is now known as nhandler [05:27] Hello [05:28] regarding Depending/Recommending default-mta [05:28] I worked on mutt, and changed the Recommends from exim4 to default-mta [05:28] and sent that to Debian, so they just replied me with the following: [05:28] the policy says that the first depend should be [05:28] always a real package and not a virtual (check debian policy 3.8.2); [05:29] should that be mentioned here on in the -server chanel ? [05:37] debian bug 533442 [05:37] Debian bug 533442 in mutt "mutt: Recommend default-mta instead of exim4" [Wishlist,Closed] http://bugs.debian.org/533442 [06:24] why does the ubuntu installer assume that system time is UTC? it no longer gives me the option to set it! [06:24] i am talking about the 9.04 installer. [06:26] slangasek: where was the discussion that convinced me that default-mta should be a Provides:? [06:27] ttp://lists.debian.org/debian-devel/2009/05/msg00068.html? [06:27] [as a link in a thread about that] [06:48] lamont: debian-devel in Feb/Mar, I guess? === bluesmoke_ is now known as Amaranth === mthaddon is now known as afk [08:43] hrm, how do I get an arm ppa build? [08:44] shaw: you don't at the moment I'm afraid; there is no working virtualisation set up for arm so PPAs can't be offered [08:45] shaw: there is some hope of this changing in the future but not very short-term [08:45] cjwatson: ok, dang. === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter [11:04] guud day [11:04] any compiz experts around? [11:04] mvo is not here right now [11:56] hey MattJ [11:57] Hi [12:42] Any devicekit-power wizards around who'd care to have a glance at https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-power/+bug/384304 and recommend how to debug? [12:42] Launchpad bug 384304 in devicekit-power "devicekit-power fails to realize I'm on battery" [Undecided,New] [12:51] Are there any plans to update portaudio? (Or, any reasons why it wouldn't be updated other than that nobody cares about it?) [13:32] infinity: When you're around, mind giving me some pointers as to where I could start in debugging the powerpc texlive-base build issues experienced on the buildds? I haven't yet been able to reproduce it locally, and I'd like to get this fixed. [14:29] RainCT: right, no current movement, so feel free to tackle [14:58] I really hate asking for help... [14:59] But how is one supposed to geta working ./configure into a package meant for building in a PPA? [15:00] not sure i get the question [15:01] well I had to update configure.in and examples/Makefile.am of notify-osd in trunk [15:01] now I want to build a PPA from an earlier attempt yesterday and just include the changes to notify-osd trunk in a "distro-patch" [15:02] I did that via cdbs-edit-patch and all is fine (almost i think) [15:02] but the patched-in configure is not executable and the PPA-buildsytem can't find the ./configure thus fails [15:04] make it executable in your configure-stamp rule? [15:04] oh, cdbs. pass. [15:04] and that means? [15:05] I mena which file to edit? [15:05] it means i don't know how to override cdbs behaviour enough to do what you want [15:05] debian/rules [15:05] is debian rules applied before or after cdbs patches are applied? [15:06] before. debian/rules is the makefile which is executed in order to build the package. it's the makefile which contains a rule (or includes a rule from an external file) specifying HOW to apply debian/patches/foo [15:07] s/before/while/ [15:08] btw... how comes configure isn't executable in the first place? [15:09] when I initially generated the 90_autoreconf.patch after I updated configure.in and examples/Makefile.am it was executable === freeflyi1g is now known as freeflying [16:48] hi [16:49] hi RainCT [16:50] hi mrooney [16:54] hi mterry [16:54] lesshaste: Yo [16:55] I was wondering if anyone could give me advice on reporting/debugging a strange thing where "shutdown" actually "hibernates" on my laptop [16:55] it's not really clear to me even which log file is relevant [16:55] this is on jaunty 2.6.28-13-generic [16:56] lesshaste: /var/log/kern.log might be useful [16:56] lesshaste: But a likely culprit is gnome-power-manager... Not sure where it logs to [16:56] ah... I am certainly in gnome [16:57] lesshaste: 'ubuntu-bug gnome-power-manager' will probably pull in all useful logs for you [17:01] thanks [17:01] how can you tell if you have just hibernated or suspended? [17:01] I mean, how can you tell them apart? [17:02] and ubuntu-bug crashed :) [17:02] http://pastebin.ca/1467715 [17:15] lesshaste: you might be better served in #ubuntu-bugs [17:16] mrooney, thanks again === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [20:32] seb128, pitti: what has rewritten all the .desktop files on my karmic system and invalidated the packages' .checksums files? [20:32] (will try to file bug eventually, but am in airport right now and this is incidental to the reason I'm running debsums in the first place) [20:37] pitti: hmm - I think the new pkgbinarymangler stuff is rewriting .desktop files after dh_md5sums is already written out? [20:38] yep, looks like it... the file on the filesystem matches the one in the package, but doesn't match the .md5sums file === emgent_ is now known as emgent === tkamppeter_ is now known as tkamppeter === yofel_ is now known as yofel [23:32] Anyone know how to get started working with the Grub2 project. I need to know how to get my image to run in a VM for testing. I have to add a feature for my company.