[00:10] <fta> oh my! I've made nearly 200 commits in lp:chromium-browser, and it's not even close to enter the repo. *sigh*
[00:20] <BUGabundo> fta: he meant http://identi.ca/notice/5527373
[00:21] <fta> what is vimeo?
[00:21] <fta> the youtube like?
[00:21] <BUGabundo> yeah
[00:23] <fta> al pelo?
[00:30] <fta> BUGabundo, dtchen: care to try ff 3.5 rc2 from my PPA before I push it to karmic?
[00:31] <micahg1> fta: is it in the dailies?
[00:33] <fta> nope, in ~fta
[00:34] <fta> the dailies are already ahead :P
[00:34] <fta> that's the thing with dailies, you're always ahead ;)
[00:34] <micahg> ok
[00:34] <micahg> but they're not labeled anymore\
[00:34] <fta> correct
[00:36] <fta> hm, no, in fact, i'm wrong, because of the naming, rc2 is ahead, even if codewise, dailies are fresher
[00:39] <fta> ..grr.. that means once it's in karmic, dailies between now and 3.5 final will be rejected. damn
[01:03] <BUGabundo> fta: busy taking a look at gwibber bugs?
[01:03] <fta> i did, sick of the crashes
[01:06] <BUGabundo> ahha
[01:06] <BUGabundo> $ watch -n 10 gwibber
[01:09] <fta> bug 364322 too
[01:09] <fta> been broken for months
[01:11] <fta> http://popcon2.ecchi.ca/package/songbird.html#graph-2 :(
[01:16] <BUGabundo> hhehe
[01:17] <BUGabundo> gwibber team is not as active as desired
[01:17] <BUGabundo> and its not meant to be on the archive
[01:17] <BUGabundo> PPA is the only way for it
[01:18] <BUGabundo> https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/389505
[01:18] <BUGabundo> its a dupe of mine
[01:19] <BUGabundo> or not
[01:22] <BUGabundo> fta: https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/gwibber/+bug/380417/
[01:22] <BUGabundo> can't invalidate that, due to networks prob
[01:22] <BUGabundo> can you please add this:
[01:23] <BUGabundo> "could have been that \n cant reproduce"
[01:23] <BUGabundo> and set it invalid?
[01:24] <fta> eh?
[01:26] <BUGabundo> lol
[01:26] <BUGabundo> really
[01:26] <BUGabundo> I can't
[01:26] <BUGabundo> lp timeouts,
[01:26] <BUGabundo> damn network
[01:31] <fta> done
[01:31] <fta> i guess i could call rc2 just rc2, as moz apparently did
[10:38] <asac> oha
[10:38] <asac> so forgot to say that iam on short vac till tue
[10:39] <asac> (e.g. onback on bue)
[10:42] <BUGabundo> enjoy asac
[10:45] <asac> yeah. at least i have 3g connection here
[10:46] <asac> last time i travelled here, i had no 3g on train
[10:47] <BUGabundo> asac: 3g? umts or GPRS?
[10:50] <asac> BUGabundo: i think gnomefreak is recovering. will be out till jul
[10:50] <BUGabundo> thanks for the update asac
[10:50] <BUGabundo> hope all goes well with John
[11:57] <fta> asac, hi!
[11:57] <BUGabundo> hey fta
[11:57] <fta> hi
[12:11] <fta> asac, I fixed a bunch of stuff in 3.5rc2, will put the env leak patch in xul too
[12:13] <BUGabundo> fta: known mem leaks?
[12:13] <BUGabundo> had a friend compaling about a few
[12:18] <fta> nope, the crash on startup
[12:18] <fta> seems it helps xul 1.9 too, at least, it sure fixed songbird
[12:19] <fta> BUGabundo, did you test 3.5 from my ppa?
[12:19] <fta> ~fta
[12:21] <BUGabundo> no
[12:21] <BUGabundo> I'm using daily 3.6
[12:22] <fta> not helping
[12:24] <fta> grr, gwibber died
[12:25] <fta> asac, if you're bored in the train, ^^
[12:25] <BUGabundo> hahah
[12:34] <BUGabundo> fta: chromium crashing a lot
[12:34] <fta> backtraces?
[12:34] <BUGabundo> what do I do with the .crash?
[12:34] <BUGabundo> apport does fire on them
[12:34] <fta> do you have the -dbg installed?
[12:34] <BUGabundo> but refuses to report, since they aren't on the archive
[12:35] <BUGabundo> don't think so
[12:35] <BUGabundo> let me get them
[12:35] <fta> install it, then cheat apport
[12:43] <asac> fta: thanks for putting env patch
[12:43] <asac> on more thing to get approval for ;)
[12:43] <asac> one
[12:44]  * asac  tries to upgrade
[12:44] <asac> just getting 110K/s
[12:44] <asac> so taikes some time to test dailies
[12:44] <asac> fta: did you upload to archive?
[12:44] <asac> (3.5rc1 (aka rc2));)
[12:44] <fta> not yet
[12:45] <BUGabundo> fta: that gdb filled my disk :(
[12:45] <BUGabundo> 350MiBs Free
[12:45] <fta> asac, i remember you asked me something about the profile migration, what was it again?
[12:45] <asac> let me think ;)
[12:46] <fta> BUGabundo: hehe. no worse than the testsuite-dbg, the deb is about 700MB packed
[12:47] <asac> i cant remember :(
[12:47] <fta> asac, abrowser?
[12:48] <asac> yeah i think we have a bug for that
[12:49] <fta> asac, what i have so far: http://paste.ubuntu.com/200007/
[12:49] <fta> 200007, nice. a few seconds earlier, i would have got 200000
[12:50] <asac> argh. slow net ... slow launchpad
[12:51] <asac> bug 331654
[12:52] <asac> fta: ^^
[12:52] <asac> so the migration should use firefox5.
[12:52] <asac> and not abrowser
[12:53] <fta> I'll have a look
[12:53] <asac> thx. thats one of the fewmilestoned bugs we have for 3.5
[12:53] <asac> the other is bug 382917
[12:54] <fta> is that abrowser thing useful at all? i remember at uds, rick said it was confusing users and backed off by oem vendors
[12:54] <asac> it is useful
[12:55] <asac> i dont think that all oems backed ti fof
[12:55] <fta> fixed bug 388880 already
[12:55] <asac> what rick wanted to emphasize was more that we should keep ffox as default instead of unbranding
[12:55] <asac> at least i think
[12:55] <asac> ok so the apparmor thing is already assined to jdstrand. so i guss we have to wait until he gives us a working profile
[12:57] <asac> jdstrand: seems the spec AppArmorFirefoxProfile needs to be finished. guess we should talk about that next week or so
[12:58] <fta> BUGabundo, so, your backtrace?
[13:00] <fta> BUGabundo, no need to re-run chromium if you have the crash file already
[13:06] <fta> asac, we need a gnome-support-dbg too, it's missing
[13:07] <asac> right
[13:07] <asac> rightwanna add?
[13:07] <fta> but i won't add it now, it will block the package in NEW
[13:07] <fta> better do it later as -ubuntu2, so xul and ff are already there
[13:09] <asac> fta: yeah. so one upload without and then directly one with it
[13:09] <asac> thats a good plan
[13:09] <asac> as long as we get rc1/2 out at the right time so we can provide input in case our users catch something
[13:10] <asac> i would like to blog about it and ask users to move away
[13:10] <asac> to 3.5
[13:10] <fta> tested yesterday, all the systems addons are not compatible, we need to bump those
[13:10] <asac> fta: can we start doing a milestone archive in mozillateam? so jaunty+intrepiud+hardy folks can get it too
[13:11] <asac> given that we do dailies it probably will _just_ work
[13:11] <asac> fta: right thats part of the firefox 3.5 transition
[13:11] <asac> spec
[13:11] <asac> https://blueprints.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+spec/desktop-karmic-firefox-3.5
[13:12] <asac> there are about a zillion of itmes
[13:12] <asac> but i didnt add each individual extension
[13:12] <asac> we should make a separate spec to track those i guess
[13:12] <fta> i give so thought to that, would have been nice to have a single team with 2 ppas: daily and releases.. but i guess it's too late
[13:12] <asac> fta: well. i think we can move dailies still
[13:13] <asac> maybe we can talk to the launchpad folks and ask for a http redirect
[13:13] <fta> mozillateam/daily and mozillateam/releases instead of mozillateam-daily/ppa and mozillateam-relases/ppa
[13:13] <asac> at least we should not  block releases/milestones because daily is in a separate ppa
[13:13] <asac> yeah. mozillateam/daily mozillateam/milestones mozillateam/releases
[13:13] <asac> that would be perfect
[13:14] <asac> oh ... we have to remember that once we make ffox 3.5 default in .head we cannot use the same branches everywhere i think
[13:14] <asac> at least if we dont want to migrate folks completely if they run a ppa
[13:14] <asac> we could of course do the full transition in -daily too for hardy et al .... but that feels like HUGE amount of work
[13:15] <asac> i guess after we did this transition we might get new idea on how to better make branches usable everywhere
[13:15] <asac> maybe moving the meta packages to a separate sourcepackage firefox-meta xulrunner-meta
[13:15] <asac> etc.
[13:16] <asac> we oculd probably consider to do that this cycle if it helüps us running those daily/milestones builds
[13:16] <asac> ok off ... ferry is arriving. will look whats going on either later today or tomorrow
[13:17] <asac> cu
[15:20] <jdstrand> asac: re apparmor> waiting on bug #375422 to be fixed
[20:49] <BUGabundo> boas noites
[20:49] <fta> gni
[21:05] <fta> grr, why am i answering to that anyway..
[21:06] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[21:06] <fta> he doesn't know what he is doing
[21:07] <BUGabundo> eehhe
[21:07] <BUGabundo> Acessories -> add/remove
[21:07] <BUGabundo> as long as gwibber as .desktop
[21:07] <BUGabundo> lol
[21:17] <fta> one more listener
[21:20] <BUGabundo> ah?
[21:38] <fta> that guy
[21:45] <BUGabundo> lol
[21:50] <fta> noone cared to try 3.5 rc2 :(
[21:50] <BUGabundo> ohh
[21:51] <BUGabundo> I've read the same about RC1
[21:51] <BUGabundo> only 900 testers
[22:01] <fta> all builders are busy building gcc
[22:01] <fta> no ff today
[22:05] <dtchen> i'm running whatever's in u-m-d
[22:06] <dtchen> 3.5~hg20090617r25988+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 (firefox-3.5), 1.9.1~hg20090620r26000+nobinonly-0ubuntu1~umd1 (xulrunner-1.9.1)
[22:08] <fta> dtchen, it was in ~fta, i need to create a ppa for moz releases :P
[22:08] <BUGabundo> fta: one more for you on identica! #songbird