[00:29] <nicklas_> yo
[00:53] <nicklas_> (K)
[00:54] <nicklas_> what desktop you guys use?
[01:06] <jman888_pleasehe> http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v677/jsl99944704/Screenshot.png
[01:06] <jman888_pleasehe> Can anybody explain that for me?
[01:46] <ron_o> why does not my x restart when I hit alt+cntrl+backspace ?
[01:46] <ron_o> why doesn't xubuntu have a keyboard shortcut for that from the getgo?
[01:51] <ron_o> I'll try this: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm restart
[01:55] <ron_o> that command didn't work. It just screwed up x and it wouldn't restart.
[01:55] <ron_o> my main problem is for some reason when my computer starts the resolution is larger than what is claimed by xubuntu config...
[01:56] <ron_o> sometimes I have to restart it more than once in order to for the resoluton to reset properly. It usually gets screwed up because of a system crash.
[02:11] <TheSheep> try this: xrandr --auto
[02:11] <TheSheep> you can bind it to some key
[02:12] <TheSheep> on another note, try putting your monitor's sync ranges into xorg.conf
[02:13] <ron_o> thanks..
[02:13] <ron_o> so that command will do the trick?
[02:22] <TheSheep> no idea, bt it won't hurt to try
[02:22] <TheSheep> it might autodetect the display wrong
[02:22] <TheSheep> btw, you can enable the alt+ctrl+backspace in xorg.conf too
[04:35] <forces> saluton
[04:36] <maduser> yo
[06:01] <KoshB5> I can log in but then it hangs on a blue screen w/just mouse pointer. What's going on?
[06:01] <KoshB5> useing Jaunty
[06:03] <TheSheep> I'd tell you to press alt+ctrl+backspace, except they removed it in Jaunty to not confuse users, so it won't work
[06:04] <maduser> why did they remove that, it was great in case the computer failed to shutdown
[06:04] <KoshB5> it's driving me crazy. The install went fine. Just ran into this glitch after a reboot
[06:05] <KoshB5> ctrl+alt+del gets you to the change user screen
[06:09] <TheSheep> maduser: I think someone once tried to assign a keybinding to that combination and was surprised it restarted X
[06:09] <maduser> they would that far for a single person?
[06:11] <maduser> nm
[06:11] <TheSheep> you know, behind every submitted bug there are ten people who didn't bother submitting a bug
[06:11] <maduser> true
[06:12] <TheSheep> you can enable it in xorg.conf
[06:13] <maduser> yeah
[06:56] <kromar> hi
[06:57] <kromar> i want to install xubuntu again, is there any compability issue with the 64bit version?
[07:00] <kromar> i want to install xubuntu again, are there any compability issues with the 64bit version?
[08:19] <marcPV> hi, anyone can help me? I can't mount a new partition while I installed another linux, I don't even see it in Thunar
[08:26] <Kraut22> I need a little help getting the wireless internet card to work on an old aspire after just putting on xubuntu
[08:53] <lesshaste> what's the minimum ram for booting the live cd for xubuntu?
[08:58] <Lybija> aloha
[09:36] <kromar> hi, i installed gparted to get access to a ntfs drive, when installed it worked but after a reboot the ntfs drive doesent get loaded. whats the problem there?
[09:37] <kromar> ahh the my settings dont get saved again... can someone help me to fix that once more?
[09:41] <Lybija> sDicsoseges testvereim, Allah langfenyu phallusa lesujt a hitetlen ubuntu-s gyaur ebekre
[09:45] <gabkdlly> lesshaste: http://www.xubuntu.org/get
[09:46] <gabkdlly> lesshaste: 192 MB
[09:46] <lesshaste> gabkdlly, very interesting.. someone just claimed the live cd wouldn't boot with 256
[09:46] <lesshaste> thanks
[09:47] <gabkdlly> lesshaste: I run on my laptop with 256 fine
[09:47] <lesshaste> gabkdlly, ok
[09:48] <lesshaste> no openoffice I am assuming :)
[09:48] <gabkdlly> lesshaste: when updatedb starts off, there can be some swapping happening
[09:49] <gabkdlly> lesshaste: I don't use open office much
[09:49] <lesshaste> unsurprising with 256MB :)
[10:07] <Allah_kegyeltje> Hozsanna
[10:09] <SiDi> hozsanna ?
[10:23] <psycho_oreos> has the issue with thunar/Thunar/gam_server been addressed to in 9.1?
[10:25] <Allah_kegyeltje> Da, Hozsanna dicsoseges tesverem
[10:25] <Allah_kegyeltje> SiDi brotha
[10:28] <SiDi> psycho_oreos, what issue is it ?
[10:28] <SiDi> Allah_kegyeltje, speak english please :|
[10:31] <Allah_kegyeltje> Okka
[10:31] <psycho_oreos> SiDi, I get issues with them using up CPU (mine is dualcore so its not fully affected) but often I cannot close the window or something... I did strace on it and have 1.1MB worth of log
[10:31] <psycho_oreos> the process thunar just hangs
[10:31] <SiDi> did you file a bug and attach the log ?
[10:32] <psycho_oreos> nope, I guess I should've done that? bleh
[10:32] <SiDi> yes :D
[10:32] <SiDi> Because we can't guess if something goes wrong on every user's machine ;)
[10:33] <psycho_oreos> I thought this was not a computer specific issue but I guess I could be wrong.. umm, bleh.. I'll check it out and file it.. was asking this before I migrate to 9.1
[10:33] <SiDi> 9.10 is still very unstable, you know
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> am also thinking of doing somewhat a clean install, on a much bigger hard drive, 20GB is way too small
[10:34] <psycho_oreos> jaunty? I thought karmic was even worse :)
[10:34] <SiDi> 9.10 is karmic
[10:34] <SiDi> 9.04 is jaunty
[10:35] <psycho_oreos> ahh I got messed up with numbers, apologies
[10:35] <SiDi> :p
[10:35] <SiDi> karmic is on alpha 2
[10:35] <SiDi> if you're not a ninja who doesnt care about killing his hardware and data, at least wait for the alpha 3: p
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> well 9.04 is my next move, I think I already have the image on my hard disk, and 250GB ide that I'll use instead of a puny 20GB.. the rest is probably migration + vmware p2v
[10:36] <psycho_oreos> lol
[10:36] <SiDi> btw
[10:36] <SiDi> check if your issue still occurs in jaunty
[10:37] <psycho_oreos> yeah I'm planning to go onto jaunty, ibex is nice but that was then :) I don't want to be too far behind
[10:37] <psycho_oreos> s/is/was
[10:37] <SiDi> try jaunty on a clean hdd with ext4 :p
[10:37] <SiDi> youll see how fast it is
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> lol ok
[10:38] <psycho_oreos> I hope the issue will be resolved, because before someone telling me about strace (and boy thank god he mentioned that, that tool is almost a godsend) I had to always do pkill
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> but yeah, report it, upgrade and we'll see
[10:39] <SiDi> upgrade, then check if its on jaunty
[10:39] <SiDi> then report ;)
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> er ok
[10:39] <SiDi> so you dont have to edit the report to say wether or not it also happens in jaunty
[10:39] <psycho_oreos> I thought the layout for bug tracking was similar to blogging?
[10:40] <SiDi> kind of
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> like you don't have to edit the main report but you can add it as a comment
[10:40] <SiDi> but its better if you do it all in once
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> ahh
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> ok
[10:40] <SiDi> less emails in xubuntu devs' inbox :D
[10:40] <psycho_oreos> lol
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> alright thanks for the input, once I get myself sorted out I'll upgrade and give it a run.. btw there's no shortcuts as to migration is there? I'm planning to not only dist-update from ibex to jaunty but I'm also going to swap out 20GB for 250GB.. I can do dd/cp as such but I'd rather not.. was hoping of someway I can retain the current profile to some extent (obviously /home would be copied rather than dd into an image) but are the
[10:42] <psycho_oreos> re any other things I have to also be aware of?
[10:43] <SiDi> if you have a separate home i suppose you can just copy your home folder with gparted
[10:43] <SiDi> but if you copy the system folder, you may have to edit /etc/fstab and /boot/grub/menu.lst to make sure they dont use UUID to identify partitions
[10:56] <psycho_oreos> well no what I meant was the way I themed my desktops as such, all the personal preferences.. I suspect they are all in /home directory but I can't be too sure, especially autostart apps, before I knew you could add it in through GUI, I had to go into /etc/xdg/..
[12:35] <utomega> hi
[12:36] <vinnl> !hi
[12:37] <utomega> I have forgot my root password, last time is used xubuntu was long time ago, I barely remember how to do things in xubuntu, is there a way to set a new password?
[12:37] <SiDi> Its your user's password, utomega
[12:37] <SiDi> use sudo
[12:37] <vinnl> Well... The root user shouldn't have a password you know
[12:39] <utomega> weird, I know my user's password, in terminal I typed su -/ su and entered it but authentication failed
[12:39] <vinnl> utomega, that's because your user can do root stuff with sudo, but you can't use the root user with su
[12:39] <vinnl> *shouldn't
[12:42] <utomega> thanks, sudo helped
[12:42] <vinnl> !sudo
[12:43] <vinnl> There's some more information if needed :)
[12:43] <utomega> thank you :)
[13:12] <karel> huh, I seem to have another problem, I updated my nvidia drivers (173>180) with synaptic package manager, and restarted my pc, now I get errors before the login screen, errors like: Failed to load module "type1" and Failed to detect devices, if I remember correctly, any advice? Can't run Wolf:ET and when I open the NVIDIA X Server Settings it says that i'm not using the NVIDIA X driver
[13:27] <SiDi> karel, remove any nvidia-glx driver in synaptic
[13:27] <SiDi> then go to the Hardware Drivers window in Apps -> System
[13:28] <SiDi> and use this one to install the drivers
[13:28] <SiDi> very likely the 18x are not compatible with your GPU and you should keep the 173
[13:29] <karel> okay, thanks, i'm updateing my xubuntu to 9.04 atm, maybe this will help
[15:02] <KoshB5> !strace
[15:08] <vidd> why does the "restart" icon in the task bar cause your session to save even when you have selected "do not save session"?
[15:12] <pandi2456> hi
[15:12] <vinnl> !hi
[15:13] <pandi2456> if the folder of cd rom on the root is empty are that mean my cd is broken or the drive is unmounted ?
[15:13] <pandi2456> doh.. i can't read my cd :(
[15:14] <vinnl> Ehm, what is the folder of the cd rom according to you?
[15:14] <pandi2456> file system and there is a sign like a arrow
[15:14] <pandi2456> :D
[15:14] <pandi2456> write on the folder is cdrom
[15:16] <vinnl> If the CD-ROM is in the CD drive, it should be listed on the left of the File Manager screen. The /cdrom folder on your filesystem doesn't necessarily contain the cdrom contents
[15:17] <pandi2456> i only have that folder and not find the cd rom tree
[15:18] <vinnl> Could you try removing the CD from the CD tray and then inserting it again?
[15:18] <pandi2456> i have run the command sudo mount /media/cdrom0/ -o unhide
[15:19] <pandi2456> wait a sec i'll try it
[15:19] <vinnl> Ah, hmm... I'm not too familiar with the mount command, but perhaps if you click on Filesystem, then on media and then on cdrom0 that you will be able to find the contents of the CD
[15:35] <pandi2456> sorry for the long time
[15:35] <pandi2456> yeah it's work
[15:36] <pandi2456> i have re inserted the cd ... seems my cd is broken :(
[15:41] <vidd> vinnl, if he comes back...ask him to try a different cd =]
[15:42] <vinnl> Yeah and to tyr the same CD on a different computer ;-)
[15:42] <vidd> or try the cd in another computer
[15:42] <vidd> =]
[15:42] <vinnl> Only, I'm leaving myself now, so... :)
[15:42] <vinnl> ^.^
[16:10] <gumbotron> any1 here
[17:28] <KoshB5> Idid an alt Jaunty install. It went fine. However; upon restart, after the login screen all I get is a bule screen with a mouse curser
[17:30] <KoshB5> I've tried reseting the graphics xfe config and no change
[18:15] <SiDi> KoshB5, it's because of the Mesa drivers
[18:15] <SiDi> the latest version seems to conflict with xfce4-session, we don't really know why
[18:15] <SiDi> you can try an install and not do the updates (not the mesa ones at least)
[18:31] <FabParma>  /msg NickServ identify <password>
[18:31] <FabParma> hi
[18:33] <FabParma> I am unable to create links of programs (icons) on Xbuntu. Can You explain me how to please?
[18:41] <SiDi> Right click -> send to -> desktop (create link)
[18:42] <SiDi> Or better : copy /usr/share/applications/yourapp.desktop to the Desktop folder
[18:42] <SiDi> Depending on wether you want a true link or a "shortcut"
[18:54] <FabParma> SiDi: My Xubuntu dont have the function you descrobed: "Right click -> send to -> desktop (create link)" This is the point
[18:56] <SiDi> What version is it ?
[18:57] <SiDi> FabParma,  ^
[18:58] <Algyz> Hi guys
[18:58] <FabParma> SiDi: the latest im just installing 20 new updates, i hope they can change the scenario
[18:58] <Slonkie> !hi | Algyz
[18:58] <Algyz> I have strange question :)
[18:59] <Slonkie> !question | Algyz
[18:59] <KoshB5> SIDI: I rebooted before doing any updates or installs
[18:59] <SiDi> KoshB5, what GPU ?
[19:00] <SiDi> FabParma, send me a screenshot of a right click on a file in the file manager, please
[19:00] <KoshB5> using an ATI card
[19:00] <SiDi> KoshB5, an ati one without proprietary drivers ?
[19:00] <Algyz> Why it could be, that using 9.04 comp is randomly freezing, like after every 2-5 hours, but it is going well under 8.04.1 and under FreeBSD 7.2? Could it be because of ext4 partitioning or rather because of some extra tools in 9.04?
[19:01] <SiDi> Apparently it mostly happens with cards that fallback on the mesa driver (the default one)
[19:01] <KoshB5> SiDi: using what xubuntu put in.
[19:01] <SiDi> Algyz, it could be something in xfce 4.6
[19:01] <FabParma> SiDi: ok, i tried as well with "drag 'n' drop" with not succes. Now I prepare the screenshot
[19:01] <Algyz> Hardware is pretty old, like ~5 years, but 8.04 is running well
[19:02] <Algyz> Oh well (not well) XfCE 4.6? :-/
[19:02] <SiDi> Algyz, is there a way for you to open up the system monitor and regularly check the ram of the programs ?
[19:02] <Algyz> Now I have 4.4.2, but is 4.6 really can freeze comp?
[19:02] <SiDi> apart from firefox, nothing should grow up in memory
[19:02] <KoshB5> sidi: the motherboard is 10 yrs old
[19:02] <SiDi> Algyz, if youre on 9.04 then you're on 4.6
[19:02] <Algyz> not memory, just freezing :|
[19:03] <SiDi> Algyz, maybe there is a bug noone fell into yet. Thats why i ask you
[19:03] <Algyz> Yeah, I know it :)
[19:03] <SiDi> Algyz, freezing can mean out of memory :)
[19:03] <Algyz> Nope
[19:03] <Algyz> Seems this thing was ok
[19:03] <Algyz> I have no idea why freezing was happening :|
[19:04] <Algyz> 9.04 was not working ok, 8.04 is :)
[19:04] <Algyz> I've been cheking in top
[19:06] <Algyz> 384MB SDRAM here, not the newest comp, but Xubuntu is targetting into such hardware :)
[19:06] <kromar> why do i only have 3.8gb ram on the 64 bit system when i have 4gb installed?
[19:06] <SiDi> kromar, dont know
[19:06] <kromar> hm strange
[19:07] <Slonkie> Maybe your GFX eating some of your memory
[19:07] <SiDi> Algyz, it should be ok. The only possibilities are : 1) an app has a leak and takes all your ram little by little ||| 2) your gpu driver sucks
[19:07] <SiDi> kromar, i dont know but cody-somerville and i have the same problem :p
[19:07] <Algyz> hmm, it shouldn't :|
[19:07] <SiDi> Algyz, indeed it shouldnt :D
[19:07] <cody-somerville> Algyz, I believe some is reserved for the kernel or something
[19:08] <Algyz> At least, how install newer mplayer in 8.04.1, also vlc, they are pretty old, and btw, I don't have sound in smplayer, despite I have it in mplayer :)
[19:10] <Algyz> Probably I'd be happy with smplayer, but no sound :(
[19:10] <Algyz> Vlc, totem, they have, but playing, let's say, not okay always
[19:10] <Shiandar> Okay, I have an installation of Xubuntu about a year old.  The video card died, and I have to use a spare one for now.  I know the card works because it's just fine on a different machine with the same install.  But I don't know why the resolution stinks even after activating the proprietary drivers.
[19:10] <Shiandar> Would burning and installing the latest release just "fix it?"  Or is there a way I can transfer the configuration?  Maybe I'm missing a command somewhere.
[19:11] <Algyz> If they want to play H264-720p, then it's not okay :(
[19:11] <cody-somerville> Shiandar, try sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg
[19:11] <Shiandar> Okay, back shortly.
[19:12] <SiDi> !restricted
[19:12] <Algyz> Totem is playing, but sometimes there are slides, stopping for a moments
[19:13] <SiDi> Read this Algyz
[19:13] <SiDi> you need xubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:13] <Algyz> I have
[19:13] <Algyz> The intereting thing that mplayer has sound, but not smplayer :D
[19:14] <Algyz> sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras, this thing done
[19:16] <Algyz> Despite this, when opening with this old vlc view is lagging
[19:18] <Algyz> Well, let's try mediubuntu repository
[19:20] <Algyz> AO: [pulse] Failed to connect to server: Connection refused
[19:20] <Algyz> :(
[19:21] <Algyz> And then too many video packets in the buffer :(
[19:22] <Shiandar> cody-somerville: Okay, went through that configuration wizard.  Reboot.  The bootup splash screen with Xubuntu logo and progress bar is the proper resolution.  But then I see "Running local boot scripts (/etc/rc.local)" flash three times and I'm sent back to "Ubuntu is running in low-graphics mode."
[19:39] <kromar> where can i get the flash player for 64bit?
[19:52] <kromar> You don't have the right permissions to extract archives in the folder "file:///usr/lib/opera/plugins"
[19:52] <kromar> how can i extract them there?
[19:52] <kromar> why dont i have rights as admin?
[20:06] <Algyz> kromar: are you an admin?
[23:01] <kromar> why arent my seetings saved when i reboot my system?
[23:02] <vinnl> kromar, are you running an installed system?
[23:02] <kromar> yes
[23:03] <vinnl> Which settings are you talking about? Are your documents saved?
[23:03] <kromar> when i relog everything is as i set it but when rebooting i have to reasign desktop wallpaper, audio library sound settings and so on
[23:03] <SiDi> kromar, did you run any app with sudo lately ?
[23:04] <kromar> not that i know of
[23:04] <kromar> the only sudo i used was to move a plugin file
[23:05] <vinnl> Hmm, that's really odd. Again, are you documents still present?
[23:05] <kromar> i had the same problem some month ago and someone told me to delete the file where the settings are stored so it would be created again and that worked fine. any idea where i can find that file?
[23:05] <vinnl> I believe ~/.config
[23:08] <SiDi> sudo chown <yourname> .config -R
[23:08] <SiDi> that should make it yours again
[23:08] <SiDi> and then it _should_ work :|
[23:09] <kromar> gona reboot and see if that worked...
[23:12] <kromar> nope didnt work... reseted again
[23:14] <SiDi> :|
[23:15] <kromar> that sucks:/
[23:15] <SiDi> yes it does
[23:15] <vinnl> kromar, which version of Xubuntu are you using?
[23:16] <kromar> 9.04 / 2.6.28-13 64bit
[23:16] <SiDi> Dont hesitate filing a bug on launchpad.net, this way it'll have more audience. I really cant help you on this :/
[23:16] <SiDi> i dont think its a kernel issue though :)
[23:16] <SiDi> do you know if it happens with other user accounts ?
[23:17] <kromar> i dont have other accounts... its a fresh install
[23:17] <SiDi> the fs is not ntfs/fat32 ?
[23:17] <SiDi> And i dont think you answered vinnl, are documents you create saved too after a reboot ?
[23:17] <kromar> the system is ext3 or something like that and the drive where the music and the pics are is ntfs
[23:18] <SiDi> your home is in ext3, 100% sure ?
[23:18] <kromar> how do you mean if documents are saved?
[23:18] <kromar> yes 100%
[23:18] <SiDi> if you create a document and save it in /home
[23:18] <SiDi> does it still exist after reboot ?
[23:19] <kromar> dont know, gona try
[23:19] <kromar> rebooting again...
[23:19] <SiDi> thanks
[23:22] <kromar> the file is still in the /home/"user"/ dir
[23:22] <SiDi> thats annoying, cause it means i have no idea what your problem is :|
[23:24] <vinnl> Yeah I would go for reporting the bug, not sure against which package though
[23:25] <SiDi> against ubuntu :)
[23:25] <kromar> how do i get gparted to boot my ntfs drive at boot?
[23:25] <vinnl> SiDi, that's the project, but which package? :)
[23:25] <SiDi> kromar, its not gparted that does it, its fstab :)
[23:25] <vinnl> kromar, Gparted doesn't boot anything
[23:26] <SiDi> !fstab
[23:26] <SiDi> vinnl, no package till we dont know what it is ^_^
[23:26] <SiDi> kromar, another user had this in #ubuntu and reinstalled :|
[23:26] <kromar> so i dont need gparted when i have a ntfs drive?
[23:26] <SiDi> kromar, no, gparted is like partition magic
[23:26] <SiDi> its a piece of software for formatting partitions
[23:26] <SiDi> kromar, did you check the integrity of your Live CD before using it to install ?
[23:27] <kromar> i had the same problem when i installed the system the last time so i dont think reinstalling will help
[23:27] <vinnl> SiDi, that's possible? Ah :)
[23:28] <kromar> the cd is 8.10 or so and that works just fine. the problem occures after upgrading to 9.04
[23:28] <SiDi> kromar, so it must be something during the upgrade
[23:28] <vinnl> Then it might very well be Xfce 4.6 that is the problem
[23:28] <vinnl> Or that :)
[23:29] <SiDi> kromar, can you go to Apps -> Parameters -> session and boot (or something similar :p)
[23:29] <kromar> so you all use 9.04 without problems?
[23:29] <SiDi> and tell me if "xfconf migration script" is amongst autostarting apps
[23:29] <vinnl> Actually, I got 8.10 at home :P
[23:29] <SiDi> kromar, yeh, thousands of people use 9.04 without problems :d
[23:29] <vinnl> But I'm using 9.04 from USB drive here :)
[23:29] <vinnl> SiDi, heh, that might just be it, good thinking
[23:30] <kromar> SiDi: its there but unmarked
[23:30] <vinnl> Then that's not it :(
[23:30] <SiDi> kromar, can you type ps aux | grep xfconf and confirm xfconfd runs ?
[23:31] <SiDi> also, (re)move .config/xfce4 so that it'll make your old and new settings unavailable and start with fresh settings (i think the issue could be that it resets your 8.10 settings everyboot without your consent)
[23:33] <kromar> SiDi: that ps aux.. gives some numbers and such things... no clue if thats how its supposed to be
[23:33] <vinnl> !paste
[23:33] <SiDi> look on the right side
[23:33] <kromar> SiDi: so i can delete the xfce folder and reboot to start clean?
[23:33] <SiDi> it lists the processes ran on the system
[23:34] <SiDi> kromar, yes but go to ctrl+alt+f1, login, type sudo /etc/init.d/gdm/stop and then remove it from there
[23:34] <SiDi> otherwise the settings will be rewritten by xfce cause your session is open
[23:35] <kromar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/200361/
[23:37] <SiDi> ok so it runs
[23:37] <SiDi> so thats not the issue :p
[23:37] <SiDi> can you paste "ls -lR .config/xfce" please ?
[23:37] <kromar> do i also need to remove the xfce4-session folder?
[23:38] <kromar> No such file or director
[23:38] <kromar> y
[23:39] <SiDi> can you paste "ls -lR .config/xfce*" please ?
[23:39] <SiDi> sorry
[23:42] <kromar> http://paste.ubuntu.com/200364/
[23:43] <SiDi> everything is alright here...
[23:43] <SiDi> I think you really should file a bug :|
[23:43] <SiDi> Thats extremely weird
[23:44] <kromar> im gona try what happens if i delete the xfce folder...
[23:45] <vinnl> Of course, in the end it will turn out to be a very simple issue :P
[23:45] <SiDi> i dont think so
[23:46] <SiDi> it looks like data he writes on his hdd isnt actually written, just pending... data is actually written every 1 or 2 mins (or something similar) to avoid using the HDD too much
[23:46] <SiDi> and it could be that he has a completely broken value
[23:46] <SiDi> but why would that file have been saved ?
[23:46] <SiDi> unless it writes when files are created in the fs but not when they're modified, but does it really make sense ? (it doesnt :p :p)
[23:46]  * SiDi is lost
[23:55] <kromar> ok im giving up.. if i download the latest liveCD and install that one it should work, right?
[23:55] <SiDi> it should
[23:56] <SiDi> you're the second (of millions of users) whose i know to have the issue
[23:56] <kromar> and the other fixed it by reinstalling?
[23:59] <kromar> so about booting ntfs drives... how is this done exactly?