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* MacSlow -> lunch12:14
MacSlowSiDi, just trying to get my record straight... you're Steve Dodier aren't you?13:55
MacSlowSiDi, the same person behind -> http://www.youtube.com/user/SiDi35 ?!13:56
SiDiMacSlow: i am ;)14:13
SiDiits me too14:13
SiDisidi was taken :D14:13
MacSlowSiDi, ok... it always hard trying to keep up with IRC-nicks and peoples real names if they are not you colleagues14:14
SiDiindeed14:14
SiDiespecially when you're on 10 channels all with their own people inside :)14:15
SiDioh btw MacSlow i think i heard of chances in the way sync notifications are used, do you mind explaining me what changes please ?14:15
MacSlowSiDi, atm not sure what you are refereing to there... got an URL with some comment on the issue?14:19
SiDii mean, you said on an ML (not sure which) that there would be changes in g-s-d and g-p-m regarding the notifications14:19
SiDiif i understood well, MacSlow 14:19
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macvrSiDi: changes have been made to the notify-osd guidelines, but i'm not sure if those were the ones you were looking for18:40
SiDimacvr: do you know which changes ?18:45
SiDii wanna make sure it wont break xfce4-volumed which uses volume synchronous notifications18:46
macvrSiDi: mostly size specs >http://wiki.ubuntu.com/NotifyOSD?action=diff&rev1=154&rev2=15518:47
djsiegel1bratsche: do you think this could be treated as a paper cut? https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/+bug/38992919:09
bratscheWhat kind of popup menu is this talking about?  I tried a right-click menu in Firefox and I can't reproduce it.19:10
djsiegel1bratsche: a gtk choice dropdown thing19:14
djsiegel1I forget what it's called19:14
bratschedjsiegel1: If I'm reading this correctly, it kind of seems like a bad idea.  I mean, a popup is just a menu and you can already define accelerator keys on menus.19:15
bratscheSo if you're typing to access a menu by the first character of the menuitem.. you've already got a potential conflict between that first character and the accelerator.19:16
bratscheOr maybe it's a combobox widget.. it's hard to tell what he means.19:17
bratscheI think that's what he means.19:17
djsiegel1yes19:19
djsiegel1combobox, bratsche19:19
djsiegel1that's it19:19
bratscheYeah, I think that would be a cool thing to do.  I think people have talked about this before, not sure if there are any patches floating around yet.19:19
bratscheI won't have any time to work on it this week as I'm starting on a UNR project with Neil, but if it's not urgent then I could look into it later in next week if you want.19:23
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bratschedjsiegel1: I linked to http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=31093119:34
djsiegel1bratsche: thanks, will check now19:35
mrooneydjsiegel1: wow, two aggressive papercuts :) the replace dialog and unable to unmount issue19:50
djsiegel1mrooney: yeah19:58
djsiegel1mrooney: the replace dialog has a great patch available, so all it might need is a push19:58
djsiegel1mrooney: and the unable to unmount issue might not be solvable, but we can at least make it more friendly for novice users19:58
magciusThe unable to unmount would be an excellent papercut to solve.20:05
magciusI think using DeviceKit and PolicyKit can solve this.20:05
magciusIf you want to make an aggressive change like that.20:06
djsiegel1magcius: well, that wouldn't be a paper cut solution20:09
djsiegel1sounds like a lot of work20:09
ScottKMuch of which is already planned for Karmic.20:09
ScottKThe question would be what's the additional work required.20:09
mrooneydjsiegel1: did you see my comment about the replace dialog? I wasn't sure if you needed help (I could get out a PPA) or if someone at Canonical was working on that20:10
djsiegel1mrooney: always assume that I need help, please :)20:10
djsiegel1ScottK: oh, cool20:11
djsiegel1ScottK: can you add anything to the bug report to that effect?20:11
ScottKdjsiegel1: You might discuss it with pitti as IIRC he's doing some of that work.20:11
djsiegel1ok, thank you20:11
ScottKdjsiegel1: I don't know enough of the details to say anything meaningful.20:11
mrooneyalright I'll try to get out a nautilus 2.27 PPA with that patch, for jaunty within the next day or two20:11
djsiegel1cool, mrooney20:12
djsiegel1https://edge.launchpad.net/hundredpapercuts/trunk -- we have 50 now20:12
djsiegel1I am going to blog and email and tweet on Friday, hopefully we can get people looking at them20:12
djsiegel1I need to become a nautilus hacker20:12
djsiegel1so many of these are in nautilus20:13
ScottKYour time is probably better spent trying to attract nautilus hackers.20:13
djsiegel1ScottK: but it would be so much easier if I could just fix these myself...20:13
djsiegel1:)20:13
djsiegel1ScottK: do you have any suggestions for attracting nautilus hackers? I wonder how many people are knowledgeable enough about the codebase to fix these.20:15
djsiegel110 people? 100? 2?20:15
djsiegel1The last thing I want is all of these bugs bombarding a handful of people upstream, who get overwhelmed and ignore them.20:16
djsiegel1Many of them are 20, 30 line fixes that have been sitting around for 5+ years20:16
djsiegel1because upstream is just backlogged20:16
* ScottK is a KDE guy. No idea.20:16
mrooneyif there are upstream patches the best thing is probably an email to the list or pinging in IRC, if there hasn't been any feedback on the tracker20:21
magciusMost developers track the mailing list but not IRC.20:23
magciusJust my personal experience.20:23
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