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blizzzhow can i mount non-standard data dvds?00:05
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Mamarokblizzz: what do you mean by non-standard?00:07
blizzzMamarok: not iso966000:07
Mamarokblizzz: should work, try it00:07
blizzzMamarok: doesn't, i tried00:08
Mamarokblizzz: what format?00:08
Mamarokblizzz: could very well be because fstap expects iso9660 by default00:08
blizzzif i knew that... a friend burned it on windows a couple of months ago. i am relatively sure that i had could open it some time ago, but that was with a far prior kubuntu version00:09
Mamarokblizzz: check if your /etc/fstab has an iso95660 entry for the drive, then that is the problem00:09
blizzzMamarok: it even fails mounting manually00:10
Mamarokblizzz: of course, if the fstab settings are as I expect they are...00:10
Mamarokblizzz: check if there is an entry in /etc/fstab for the drive00:11
blizzzhttp://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/78500:11
blizzzMamarok: no there isn't. other cds/dvds can be mounted anyway00:12
kaddiHello, is there someone who would be willing to explain the differences between mounting an external fat-partition in windows and linux to me?00:13
Mamarokblizzz: most CDs and DVDs are iso9660...00:13
blizzzMamarok: yes, but this one is obviously not00:13
Mamarokblizzz: could you paste the /etc/fstab file in http://paste.ubuntu.com, please?00:14
blizzzMamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201147/ i don't think it is a problem with the fstab because other discs are mounted as expected00:16
Mamarokblizzz: you don't have an entry for the drive, that's strange00:19
blizzzMamarok: that's needless00:19
shadeslayerMamarok: quick question : can i boot a ISO image from  a HD ?00:26
shadeslayerone of my files on the live USB drive is corrupted will copying (not installing) the contents of the ISO on to the USB solve the problem?00:30
blizzzgn800:34
kaddiI'm still looking for information on how linux handles fat32 (especially on removable media). I think I'm probably looking for info on how it handles hidden sectors... Anyone know anthing about it? Or maybe has an idea where I could get this information?00:37
bilickiI want to install kubuntu... how large should my swap partition be?00:46
DragnslcrI think the usual suggestion is somewhere around twice your RAM00:47
bilickimy ram is 4GB00:47
bilickiso 8GB???00:47
DragnslcrIf you have the extra disk space, might as well00:51
bilickicool, thanks00:51
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shadeslayerin kopete how do i set up a gmail account?01:04
shadeslayeri specifically need the settings under the connections tab01:05
ActionParsniplet me check01:10
eamonnHey, I'm in a serious bind if anyone wants to help...01:10
shadeslayerActionParsnip: never mind...i googled it01:10
shadeslayerActionParsnip: i just need to find the place where i can hide offline contacts now01:10
ActionParsnipeamonn: sup?01:10
Dragnslcrshadeslayer- http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=5755701:10
ActionParsniphttp://www.johnoriordan.ie/index.php/2007/06/06/using-gmail-on-kopete/01:11
lovreis it possible for me to install xfce but without all the additional programs? i would like to use all my existing programs from KDE, but use xfce... is this possible01:11
eamonnYeah01:11
eamonnI had the same problem early on.01:11
shadeslayerActionParsnip: where do i configure the hide offline contacts thing?01:12
wallaceirc portuguese01:12
shadeslayerfound it -_-01:12
ActionParsnipshadeslayer: i dont even know whatthat is :-/01:12
eamonnJust go to your package manager (synaptic, kpackage, or adept) and searck for xfce01:12
shadeslayerActionParsnip: hehe..never mid :P01:12
shadeslayer*mind01:12
ActionParsniplovre: sudo apt-get install xfce401:12
lovreActionParsnip: wouldnt that just install everything?01:12
lovreActionParsnip: i dont want *any* additional programs01:12
ActionParsniplovre: you can use kde apps in xfce01:12
ActionParsniplovre: no, if you want everything you need: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop01:13
lovreActionParsnip: ah, i see01:13
lovreActionParsnip: thank you :D01:13
ActionParsniplovre: it will install what is needed to run and configure xfce01:13
lovreActionParsnip: so i can logout and select xfce?01:13
ActionParsniplovre: it will not install mousepad / swiftfox etc01:13
lovreActionParsnip: i dont have laptop... so its ok...01:14
lovreActionParsnip: how about drivers, will they work?01:14
ActionParsniplovre: sure, i use lxde instead for lightness, but use some kde apps01:14
lovregraphics, sound?01:14
shadeslayerActionParsnip: i just did a comlete reinstall01:14
ActionParsniplovre: the DE is nothing to do with drivers01:14
eamonnActionParsnip: Okay, I set up a machine to dual boot windows and Ubuntu, right?  But when I go to select my OS in grub, my keyboard does not accept input, so I can't select before it times out.01:14
lovreActionParsnip: yes, im tired and noob, ofcourse. stupid.01:14
ActionParsniplovre: no, its good to ask. i treat all the same01:15
lovreActionParsnip: thank you very much :)01:15
ActionParsnipeamonn: hmm strange01:15
ActionParsnipeamonn: laptop / desktop / usb keyboard / ps2 keyboard ?01:15
eamonnActionParsnip: usb01:15
lovreActionParsnip: would it require much setting up after install? if yes, where can i find instructions (clear ones possibly=01:16
ActionParsnipeamonn: tried a different port? is legacy usb enabled in bios?01:16
ActionParsniplovre: depends what you want to change. most settings are ok but better support for the DE will be given in #xubuntu01:16
eamonnActionParsnip: I've tried several ports, there are 8 in total, so I'll go test each one now.  I'll check the BIOS first.  brb01:16
lovreActionParsnip: ok thanx again :)01:18
eamonnActionParsnip: Thanks!  Looks like USB keyboard support is disabled.  I'll try again with it enabled.01:18
ActionParsnipeamonn: np man01:18
ActionParsniplovre: np duder01:18
skorpiushello roo,01:20
eamonnActionParsnip: Thank you very much, it is working just fine now.01:20
skorpiusF1 F1 please01:21
DragnslcrNear the top-left corner of your keyboard01:21
DragnslcrNext to "Esc" probably01:21
skorpiusi have a question as i am new to linux01:22
ActionParsnipskorpius: ask away01:27
skorpiuscan someone tell me any good video editor exept kdenlive and cinelerra01:27
ActionParsnip!info kino01:28
ubottukino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 1.3.0-2.1ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 4262 kB, installed size 9428 kB01:28
ActionParsnip!info avidemux01:29
ubottuavidemux (source: avidemux): a free video editor - gtk version. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.4.4-0.0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 3157 kB, installed size 8228 kB01:29
skorpiusanother question01:30
skorpiuscan i install kde with ome without installing all K packages like koffice ketc etc01:31
ActionParsnipskorpius: sure, just need to find the right name01:32
shadeslayerbye all01:32
DragnslcrShould be able to. I know koffice isn't part of kdebase01:32
ActionParsnipI'd shoot for kdebase-bin01:32
skorpiusthnx let me have a look01:33
JontheEchidnakubuntu-desktop would give you a reasonable amount of KDE01:33
JontheEchidnaor at least, what a default kubuntu install would give you01:34
ActionParsnipJontheEchidna: all the kubuntu apps are antedto be avoided. s/he only wats the DE without the extra appsin the meta package01:35
skorpiuswell honestly  i dont like to work in kde actually i love to use amarok and kdenlive.01:35
skorpiusamarok is working smooth with gnome but kdenlive crashes all the time so i wanted to install kde just to edit videos in kdenlive01:36
ActionParsnipskorpius: then simply install amarok, the required packages will be pulled down and you cacontinue to use whichever DE you prefer01:36
luis_hello, i wanna connect to serebii channel, what i can do?01:38
ActionParsnip!serbia01:39
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about serbia01:39
skorpiuskdebase-bin looks smaller.01:40
ActionParsnipskorpius: it has Qt dependancies which will be needed. you will install more than just that package01:40
skorpiusdo you think after having these bineries kdenlive will work?01:41
bjb1959I use a program called gcstar to maintain my video/movie database and when I start movies with it (using the system default which I set to smplayer) there is no sound unless I stop the movie and re-open it through smplayer. any ideas why this would happen?01:41
ActionParsnipskorpius: its free to try01:41
bjb1959by the way, it doesn't happen if I use gnome or another window manager, just kde 4.2.3. any ideas?01:42
skorpiusi have qt dependencies ActionParsnip but only kdenlive is giving troubles other K packages working smooth01:42
luis_!serebii01:42
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about serebii01:42
skorpiusafter exploring alot of forums i got this conclusion that kdenlive is not very smooth with gnome01:44
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skorpiusnahhhh the same problem01:51
skorpiusanyway thanks for the help01:51
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shadeslayerwhich torrent manager should i install>02:00
shadeslayerno gnome libraries please02:00
Dragnslcrktorrent works fine for me02:01
shadeslayerDragnslcr: any other alternative?02:01
DragnslcrI'm sure there are plenty02:01
shadeslayeryeah the !torrent factoid has many....half of them are gnome02:02
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_CommandeR_Hi, anyone tried the USB boot, problem is how do you save the xorg.conf from changing back to deffault every time ?02:05
Psi-JackDoes Kubuntu 9.04 come with KDE 4.2 or 4.0?02:14
DragnslcrPsi-Jack- I think the release discs have 4.2.202:18
halfsanehey gents,  how do i change the login sound in KDE4?02:20
halfsanei cant find the sound prefs02:20
Dragnslcrhalfsane- System Settings ->  Notifications02:21
DragnslcrIn the KDE System Notifications category02:22
halfsaneDragnslcr: oh  thanks!    i check there real quick and just kept looking around02:22
_CommandeR_How do you save settings to the xorg.conf when running Ubuntu from USB ?02:29
Kalexso02:32
Kalexthis guy has a stupid question02:32
subcoolcould someone assist me with a search? i am trying to find a way to make my wrt54g into a wireless hub- Im at a hotel that doesn support lan lines..03:04
subcoolsupposedly the hyperwrt or something like that does it-03:05
subcooli have tomato on one of my wrt's ...03:06
subcoolbut thats for my VOIp.03:06
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shaffycan someone help:  i am trying to restore my grub boot menu (installed windows7 dual boot) through the  live cd.  at the grub terminal i type "fine /boot/grub/stage1" and i get "error 15: file not found."  any ideas anyone?03:33
Dragnslcr!grub03:38
ubottuGRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto03:38
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TMKCodesAnyone want to help me with radeon drivers and opengl? My opengl does not work. :/ http://tmk.pastebin.com/f1b67d2e804:12
adrianoto perdido04:18
adrianoaqui04:18
adrianoalguem sabe como entro no do brasil04:18
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jonny_I have a question any 1 kno how i can change my video setting from 24 bit to 32 Bit i just resently installed linux and cant swap to my 32 bit setting any more04:31
bryan_i am trying to run a program from termianl, and have been typing just the name what am i doing wrong?04:32
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TMKCodesbryan_:  ./programname04:45
bryan_does anyone have any experince with boxee?04:48
sithlord48anyone here using amarok 2.1.1 ? i have a slight issue w/ it insisting on stoping after each track. i can't seam to find out how i either enabled the setting or how to stop it from doing it ...04:59
miloSerpardum: please do you know how to switch from English to French in Open Office?05:00
sumonhi, good morning, i'm from indonesia06:12
bazhangsumon, need help in indonesian? #ubuntu-id06:13
sumonok, thanx06:13
sumonhi06:19
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Neon_Hi, i've been haveing problems with the bugginess of jaunty lately.  Anyone know of a way to downgrade back to intrepid?06:45
bazhangful reinstall Neon_06:45
bibsthahow do i reload .profile and .bashrc without logging out ?06:58
noaXessgood morning07:11
noaXessif i create a raid1 (mirror) with my mainboard's sata-controller, then in the kubuntu installer i see two hd's, instead of one? should i create the riad1 with kubuntu?07:12
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donavan_join ex-chat07:57
staar2where i can turn off the effects ? This fading and transparancy ?07:57
donavan_idk i am so new to ubuntu i am trying to find stuff out07:58
donavan_how do i join channels ?07:59
jussi01donavan_: type: /join #channelnamehere08:01
donavan_o lol08:01
donavan_thank you08:01
jussi01staar2: system settings - desktop - enable desktop effects08:01
jussi01donavan_: yw08:01
staar2jussi01: ty works better now08:02
jussi01:)08:02
staar2any improvments to make it more faster :D ?08:05
donavan_does any one here use ubuntu08:06
jussi01donavan_: I do on one pc...08:07
jussi01!anyone08:07
ubottuA large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..."  Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?08:07
jussi01staar2: got your gfx card drivers installed if needed?08:07
staar2i got to say, i have no idea08:08
staar2as i got the integrated graphic card08:08
jussi01staar2: which brand?08:08
staar2but i can say it runs faster then XFCE now08:09
jussi01intel, nvidia, ati?08:09
staar2laptop NC622008:09
staar2Intel08:09
jussi01ok :)08:09
donavan_i am trying to run wow on my pc with ubuntu and its a wnidows exe how would i be able to use it on ubuntu08:09
staar2950 something08:09
jussi01no need for drivers then08:09
jussi01!wine | donavan_08:09
wangyuanI have question how to configure samba?08:09
ubottudonavan_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu08:09
jussi01!ask | wangyuan08:09
ubottuwangyuan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)08:09
staar2what text editors you use for coding ? gvim ?08:10
donavan_thank you08:10
jussi01staar2: kate on kubuntu for graphical, but its very much up to you08:10
jussi01!editors08:10
ubottuText Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code08:10
staar2for kate is there a plugins page to ?08:11
jussi01staar2: are you looking for a text editor or an IDE?08:12
jussi01!code | staar208:12
ubottustaar2: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans08:12
staar2php, sql, js, html08:12
staar2kate should be fine i think ?08:13
staar2is there some third-party plugins for that to ?08:13
jussi01staar2: have you had a look at it? ;)08:14
staar2yes i looked the extensions part08:14
donavan_i just tried to watch a vid on youtube and it said to install a flash driver i did and i tried to watch it again and it stilll says the same thing08:15
* jussi01 doesnt know much about kate, but assumes so... google may help08:15
jussi01donavan_: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package08:16
donavan_were would i do that08:16
jussi01donavan_: kmenu - system - kpackagekit08:16
donavan_?08:16
jussi01donavan_: go to the kmenu, then to system, then to kpackagekit...08:17
donavan_were would i find that in ubuntu08:18
jussi01donavan_: you are in ubuntu, not kubuntu???08:18
donavan_o08:18
donavan_i am so sorry08:19
jussi01donavan_: /join #ubuntu08:19
jussi01:)08:19
jussi01donavan_: but its in system, administration, synaptic package manager08:19
jussi01then install ubuntu-restricted-extras08:20
donavan_now what would i do ?08:24
donavan_i found out i think08:26
jussi01donavan_: click search, type ubuntu-restricted-extras, click on the box, mark for install, click apply?08:27
donavan_i did that08:27
jussi01once its done, restart firefox, watch you tube!08:28
donavan_yay thank you08:28
Idhancan I install kdvi on ubuntu 9.04?08:37
donavan_what is the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu08:38
Idhandonavan_: the bases of both system are the same, but ubuntu use gnome as main desktop enviroment and kubuntu KDE08:39
xjjkIdhan: does kdvi still exist.. thought it was replaced by okular08:39
neo_hola08:40
Idhanbut okular is really bad with forward/inverse search :-(08:40
xjjkIdhan: Intrepid was the last release that came with kdvi08:40
jussi01!info kdvi intrepid08:40
ubottukdvi (source: kdvi): dvi viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1283 kB, installed size 3288 kB08:41
xjjkIdhan: don't think you can easily install it, as it depends on all these KDE3 libs which probably don't exist in Jaunty08:41
Idhanxjjk: thanks..08:41
codyHey is there away to update from Kubuntu 7.04 to 9.04 just by changing the respitories?08:45
cody!update08:45
ubottuFor upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Jaunty (9.04) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading08:45
bazhangcody, no08:45
codyWell I will probably have to go up in distro versions then?08:46
codybecause I edited the sources.list on my install of 7.04 so I can get to 7.10 but nothing happened.08:46
bazhangshould read the upgrade notes, as 7.04 is end of life08:46
codyyeah I knw :[08:46
bazhangat this point backing up and doing a fresh install would be a better option08:47
codyOkay, I see.08:47
codyI was thinking the same thing, It's a fresh install anyways.08:47
bazhangread the notes though :)08:47
codysure08:47
bazhangoh in that case not much lost08:48
codydoesn't hurt to learn more I guess lol.08:48
nobode11hello, how do i install kde 4 in hardy?09:00
nobode11*tap* *tap* *tap anyone here?09:02
nobode11echo!09:02
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Serpardumecho... echo... echo...09:12
nobode11hi09:14
nobode11can i ask something?09:14
nobode11!ask nobode1109:15
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about ask nobode1109:15
nobode11!ask09:15
ubottuPlease don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)09:15
SerpardumBy asking if you can ask, you've alredy asked a question. So Just ask you real question09:16
nobode11i want to install kde4 on hardy - but the guide says execute this: sudo apt-get install kde-nightly09:17
nobode11nightly builds are not stable right?09:17
SerpardumI would not say that "nightly builds are not all stable."  I would say some nihtly builds are not stable.  That might be what you wre trying to say bt it was confusion09:19
Serpardum!kde-nightly09:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about kde-nightly09:20
Serpardum!nightly09:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nightly09:20
Serpardumhmm09:20
nobode11!nightstand09:20
ubottuSorry, I don't know anything about nightstand09:20
nobode11...09:20
nobode11ok i am about to execute this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/09:20
nobode11sudo apt-get install kde-nightly09:21
nobode11someone stop me....09:21
nobode11strange....couldn't find package it says09:21
Serpardumtoo sleeply.09:22
nobode11wake up09:24
nobode11wake up09:24
nobode11where is everybody?????09:24
refic..09:28
denishello09:36
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HalphaZhello10:37
HalphaZI can I use nepomuk to create a view of files with 5 stars?10:37
MamarokHalphaZ: you need to build the Index first10:40
ActionParsnipyo yo yo10:41
HalphaZMamarok: ok... how? I went in system setting and started nepomuk10:41
HalphaZbut not strigi10:41
HalphaZnepomuk is running10:42
HalphaZstrigi not10:42
ActionParsnip!info strigi10:42
ubottuPackage strigi does not exist in jaunty10:42
HalphaZso I suppose that nepomuk had build the index10:42
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FeasibilityStudystrigi rules10:43
MamarokHalphaZ: well, you need Strigi of course, and if you look for apt-cache search strigi you will find it10:43
MamarokNepomuk doesn't build an index, Strigi does10:43
Mamarokand Nepomuk uses that index10:43
Mamaroksee also here for more documentation: http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/210:44
HalphaZstrigi-daemon?10:44
HalphaZI'm on jaunty10:45
FeasibilityStudyHalphaZ Yeah you need strigi and you will also probably have to make a link to a java library to get it working properly.10:46
nik_hola10:48
nik_??10:48
FeasibilityStudyHalphaZ: Once you get strigi installed and if it doesn't work properly, go here and follow the directions:  http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102231.010:49
bazhang!es | nik10:49
ubottunik: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.10:49
HalphaZFeasibilityStudy: thank you, I'm going to read :-)10:49
arvid_Does anyone else has problems with installing plasmoid in kde 4.3 beta2 ?10:49
Mamarokarvid_: you mean the plasmapkg problem?10:51
Mamarokthere seems to be a bug currently10:51
arvid_Mamarok: sounds likely10:52
ubuntuhy10:53
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HalphaZstrigi seems to work :-)11:01
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: could just use the find command ;)11:02
HalphaZActionParsnip: yes... could use pen and paper11:02
HalphaZcould use letters instead of irc11:03
HalphaZa "broadcast" letter .-D11:03
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: true, but how much searching do you actually do?11:03
HalphaZActionParsnip: I just need to understand what semantic desktop is11:04
HalphaZI'm looking for answers11:04
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: http://www.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome11:06
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: scroll 50% down11:07
sugalohello, is it possible to disable to spell check on KNotes ?11:08
HalphaZ:-) going to try nepomuk... lol11:10
ActionParsnipsugalo: not used it, its on my removefluff script when i install a fresh system11:15
sugaloActionParsnip: so what should i do ?11:18
ActionParsnipsugalo: no idea. as i said, i dont use it. i'm sure others do, maybe then can advise11:19
ActionParsnipsugalo: if not, try later in the day, different users etc11:19
sugaloActionParsnip: ok sorry ; i thought you were saying your script compiles your system without aspell11:20
ActionParsnipsugalo: no it strips about 60% of the OS out11:22
ActionParsnipsugalo: as well as installing flash and video drivers11:22
sugaloheh ok11:22
ActionParsniptheres a lot i dont use, like knotes, evince, pdf rubbish, pppoe stuff11:23
ActionParsnipstuff like that, out11:23
ActionParsnipsugalo: my install is just over 2Gb by the end11:24
sugaloyeah it's amazing the number of softwares installed that i don't use ; maybe even more than on windows11:25
ActionParsnipsugalo: rip them out, save space11:27
sugaloActionParsnip: i'm lazy :( and space is not a problem anymore nowadays ^^11:28
ActionParsnipsugalo: i like a punchy system hence me skimming the fat11:30
HalphaZActionParsnip: excuse me... I can I search file using ratings?11:35
HalphaZnow that strigi is running it should be possible11:35
HalphaZthe last problem is that I don't know how to do11:35
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: i dont use strigi so i woldnt know11:35
ActionParsnipHalphaZ: file ratings is another thing i am unfamiliar with11:36
HalphaZthanks11:36
matthew__wow11:40
matthew__how much people are idle here?11:41
jussi01matthew__: a few :D11:41
matthew__damn11:41
matthew__200 people and all of them are idle pretty much11:41
jussi01matthew__: is there something you need help with?11:41
matthew__sure I got a question11:41
matthew__I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu11:41
coz_where is the power management located on kde11:41
matthew__and when I run KDE programs under GNome is that like emulating KDE and running the application?11:42
coz_matthew__,    sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:42
matthew__i know that11:42
matthew__i done that already11:42
coz_matthew__,  oh sorry11:42
jussi01coz_: system settings - advanced - power management11:42
matthew__i'm wondering when I run KDE programs. UNDER gnome desktop11:42
matthew__does it emulate the KDE desktop under gnome?>11:42
jussi01matthew__: no, no emulation , just running them as normaö11:42
jussi01normal11:43
matthew__like wine?11:43
jussi01no11:43
matthew__Can I run xfce applications under gnome also?11:43
jussi01just loads the libraries it needs and runs them - they are all linux apps11:43
jussi01of course11:43
matthew__hmm what other desktop managers are there?11:43
jussi01many many of them, I really suggest you browse google for those11:44
jussi01coz_: got it?11:44
matthew__yeah I'm better off just uninstalling kubuntu and installing the applications from SPM11:44
matthew__to remove kubuntu just sudo apt-get remove kubuntu?11:44
coz_jussi01,  I think so I done want monitor to sleep   and I am used to gnome myself11:44
jussi01Hrm, small issue. I cant seem to get my iphone picture dir to mount on kubuntu. works on UNR and normal ubuntu out of the box... :/11:45
coz_jussi01,  but loving kde 4.3 beta:)11:45
jussi01coz_: the monitor power mangaement is under system settings, display, power control11:45
coz_jussi01,  ah let me check :)11:45
matthew__sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop11:46
matthew__will that remove the desktop of kubuntu?11:46
jussi01!puregnome | matthew__11:46
ubottumatthew__: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal11:46
matthew__I'm on gnome11:46
matthew__but I did the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop11:46
jussi01yes...11:46
jussi01I know...11:46
jussi01read what the bot said...11:46
matthew__and this will remove the session on login screen also?11:47
matthew__so gnome will be the only desktop?11:47
coz_hey guys.. I notice unde system settings/login manager  tht the settings are greyed out....do I need to open t his as root to access those settings?11:54
ActionParsnipcoz_: kdesudo systemsettings11:55
coz_ActionParsnip,  thanks   trying now :)11:55
ActionParsnipcoz_: yes as its a system wide change which users are not allowed to change11:55
ActionParsnipcoz_: kdesudo will run the gu iapp with elevated access11:56
coz_ActionParsnip,   thanks I kind of figured that  but wasnt sure on kde  ... so used to know... but loving kde 4.3 beta :)11:58
ActionParsnipcoz_: no worries man, good to ask. I've given up on kde11:58
coz_ActionParsnip,  oh?   interesting  kde 4.2.4  I uninstalled and did want to deal with it again...tryed ubutu 9.10 with kde 4.3 beta and i may be sold  not sure   I am giving it a week :)11:59
ActionParsnipi'm sticking with lxde12:00
coz_ActionParsnip,  oh yeah love that as well but some issues running certain things including  dual monitors/nvidia12:00
coz_ActionParsnip,  love the speed of it though :)12:00
ActionParsnipcoz_: surely dual monitor is managed by nvidia-settings like in any other de?12:01
coz_ActionParsnip,  it is but with compiz running there are strange issues   wall paper on secondary monitor doesnt get disaplyed just a transparent monitor :)12:01
coz_ActionParsnip,  eventually it shows it self  after playing with some settings but then I lose desktop right click12:02
ActionParsnipoh man compi, theres something i dont use at all12:02
ActionParsniphorrible junky thing12:02
coz_ActionParsnip,  :)  well I am one of the support team for it  cant escape it  but it's a good thing I really like it then ?12:03
coz_:)12:03
coz_ActionParsnip,  I thought I remember you on #compiz some time back ?12:03
ActionParsnipyeah when i as loking at it, breaks too much and i want my system to be fast rather than waiting for animations to finish12:04
coz_ActionParsnip,  oo shouldnt break  not 0.8.212:04
ActionParsnipcoz_: its good yuo like it if you use it. ive had people having to make scripts to disable compiz then run a game, then rerun compiz once its finished12:05
ActionParsnipcoz_: not exactly practical, this was the other week too12:05
ActionParsnipand for the sake of a little gloss, not worth the heartache12:05
coz_ActionParsnip,  well some of that is dependent on video card but generally there is no need to disable it and with fusion icon it is a simple right click to disable that12:05
ActionParsnipcoz_: but a WM shouldnt have to be disabled to run another app, its preposterous12:06
coz_ActionParsnip,  I never stop compiz for games   unless they dont respect the dual monitor setup and then I just disable dual monitors not compiz12:06
coz_ActionParsnip, I think you may have had bad advice12:07
ActionParsnipcoz_: its adding an extra complication for users, they have to think which apps need compiz disable and which they can leave it running12:07
ActionParsnipi think its a joke12:07
coz_ActionParsnip,  well the only apps  are a couple games everything else runs fine with compiz even on kde :)12:07
ActionParsnipeverything runs great on lxde, i just run things as i like12:08
ActionParsnipand i have a tonne ore ram free too12:08
coz_ActionParsnip,  compiz runs really fast on lxde :)12:08
ActionParsnip*more12:08
liberviscoHi..12:08
ActionParsnipseems kinda counter intuitive to run compiz on lxde dont you think...12:09
ActionParsnip!hi | libervisco12:09
ubottulibervisco: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu!12:09
coz_ActionParsnip,  nah :)12:09
jussi01!ot12:09
ubottu#kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks!12:09
ActionParsnipcoz_: lxde is supposed to be light, then you bloat it out with compiz..12:09
liberviscothanks :)12:10
coz_ActionParsnip,  ok i wont argue :)12:10
liberviscoI have some issues with KDE's compositing (at least I think it's compositing)..12:10
jussi01and coz_, why run compiz on kde4? kwin has pretty much the same features and works nicely on nvidia dualhead...12:10
jussi01libervisco: do ask your question...?12:10
coz_jussi01,  no  the two are not quite the same and as I said I have to support compiz so its what I have to run12:11
liberviscothere are a bunch of stuff.. but among the most annoying are the dots that appear on the top left part of the screen..12:11
liberviscoand even flash sometimes..12:11
liberviscoI'm using KDE 4.2.4 on kubuntu jaunty with Nvidia 9600GT (with installed drivers)12:11
ActionParsniplibervisco: do they appear no the normal deskto por when you run a particular app?12:12
liberviscodesktop effects are enabled, plasma theme is glassified..12:12
liberviscothey're above everything12:12
liberviscogonna upload a screenshot..12:12
ActionParsniplibervisco: ok, but are they triggered b a particular app running?12:12
liberviscohmm no as far as I can tell.. iirc they come up after login12:13
liberviscohttp://memenode.com/misc/dots.png12:14
liberviscohttp://memenode.com/misc/dots2.png12:14
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liberviscoit's like someone poked holes in it with a needle :D12:15
coz_same pattern o012:15
coz_libervisco,  which video card is this out of curiosity?12:16
liberviscoZotac Geforce 9600GT12:17
liberviscojust bought it.. (partly because of KDE4.. I was actually running windows 7 for a few weeks.. cause my old Radeon X800 was no longer supported with full drivers on linux)..12:17
liberviscohm that even shows when I turn off compositing..12:20
ActionParsniplibervisco: does it happen on more than one monitor, do you have one to test?12:22
liberviscoActionParsnip, no.. just this one..12:23
liberviscoLCD, LG S1919S12:23
liberviscohm I could play with resolutions...12:23
ActionParsniplibervisco: makes sense, if they are in the same place and same size its the monitor12:24
liberviscoI don't know about that.. then it should display everywhere else.. GNOME, Windows 7 etc.. and it doesn't12:24
liberviscochanging resolution doesn't make it go away12:25
coz_libervisco,  out of curiousity ... are desktop effects enabled?12:25
liberviscoalso.. if it's the monitor how would I take a screenshot?12:25
ActionParsniplibervisco: but are the dots identical or have they chaged with the resolution?12:25
liberviscocoz_, they were, I just disabled to see if it disappears, but it didn't so that doesn't make much difference..12:26
liberviscoActionParsnip, they changed.. on lower resolution everything is "bigger", including dots..12:26
coz_ah oh something is writing them to the desktop then12:26
ActionParsnipok thats more information :)12:26
libervisco:)12:26
liberviscoI wonder if anyone else had a similar issue..12:27
ActionParsniplibervisco: i use an onboard nvidia 6150 128mb, works awesomely but i dont use desktop effects or kde12:27
liberviscoah12:28
coz_libervisco,  when did this start happening?12:28
liberviscoit's mostly weird glitches like this in KDE4.. I tried every game I could install, with maxed out settings.. the Nvidia card plus drivers is the awesomest 3D combination for linux..12:28
zirikiliany help on using amarok 2 with ipod/iphone on kubuntu 9.04 ?12:29
ActionParsniplibervisco: amen!12:29
liberviscocoz_, well.. this is a new install.. pretty much from the beginning..12:29
ActionParsnip!ipod | zirikili12:29
ubottuzirikili: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod12:29
kaHi. Anyone know why dropbox works fine on my laptop but not on my main PC? There is just a blank space in my system tray...12:29
liberviscoI made a new install after putting the new card in12:29
coz_libervisco,  ooo  and you have already done all the updates etc?  and which nvidia driver are you using?12:29
ActionParsniplibervisco: full updated?12:29
liberviscoyes12:29
liberviscoand nvidia driver 18012:29
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liberviscothe "recommended" one12:30
ka!RockBox12:30
ubotturockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started!12:30
coz_libervisco,  right same here12:30
liberviscocan't wait for 4.3 final... it might have some of this stuff fixed...12:31
coz_libervisco, well I am running the beta now  and it is really nice12:31
coz_libervisco,  although I have karmic istalled12:31
liberviscoalready? :D12:31
liberviscoKarmis is still Alpha 2 right?12:31
coz_libervisco,  yeah its alpha 2 right now but seems to be just fine12:31
liberviscohehe12:32
liberviscoI tried 4.3 beta 2 in a previous install, while I was still on Radeon X800.. and it was freezing like all other KDE4.. I guess the xorg driver and KDE4 don't play well..12:32
coz_libervisco,  i am actually quite impressed with kde 4.3 beta  I am a long time kde hater :)12:32
libervisco4.2 would freeze too though so it's nothing specific about 4.312:32
coz_libervisco,  sounds more like video driver issues12:33
liberviscoyeah12:33
liberviscobut there's no more freezing on the new nvidia :)12:33
coz_libervisco,  generally any freeze ups are video drivers problems12:33
bryan__I installed a program called Boxee, and now it runs for a sec and then exits. What should I try?12:34
coz_libervisco,  this dot pattern is strange12:34
liberviscoyeah :S12:35
coz_libervisco,  it is the same pattern no matter what right?12:35
liberviscoa bit related.. plasma elements sometimes leave trails behind them too..12:35
liberviscoit seems so..12:35
coz_libervisco, mm  compiz running?12:35
liberviscothe trail is more like.. when a plasma is closed, for example, the border of it partly remains until I move some window and it refreshes desktop..12:36
liberviscono compiz12:36
coz_libervisco, I did see that on 4.2.312:36
coz_libervisco,  there were always ghost outlines of the windows  with plasma12:36
liberviscooh.. is that fixed in 4.3?12:37
coz_libervisco,  I have seen none of that so far12:37
liberviscogreat :)12:37
coz_libervisco,  actually it is much faster12:37
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liberviscomaybe I should upgrade..12:37
coz_libervisco,  and I have an nvidia 6600LE  with the 180.14 driver12:38
coz_libervisco,  your's should be flying12:38
liberviscoyeah :)12:38
coz_libervisco,  give karmic a try12:38
liberviscothat too.. it is kinda sluggish occasionally.. not a big deal but enough to be felt..12:39
coz_libervisco,  I never do upgrade on ubuntu but this time I decided to try12:39
liberviscolike when minimizing a window it feels like it's not entirely smooth12:39
coz_libervisco,  well I am seeing none of that on the beta12:39
liberviscoI'm thinking of getting the backport..12:39
liberviscofull karmic still brings in a lot of the other stuff that could be unstable or work in progress.. :)12:40
coz_libervisco,  as I said it seems to be fine right now12:41
coz_libervisco,  this was a "throw away" install untill I upgraded12:41
bryan__how do i change from pulseaudio to alsa? I cant find where the setting is.12:46
coz_brad_,  system settings / multimedia?12:50
bryan__is there anyway to switch from kubunutu to ubunutu?12:52
bryan__\nick resnose12:52
coz_bryan__,  log off  username   then password but before you hit enter  click the "sessionis' button choose gnome12:53
coz_"sessions" button12:53
bryan__thanks :)12:54
bryan__coz_: thanks :)12:54
coz_brad_,  no problem :)12:54
bryan_coz_: i did not see an option for gnome.12:58
coz_brad_,  do you still have ubuntu-desktop installed?12:59
bryan_coz_: are you calling my brad?12:59
coz_sorry12:59
coz_bryan_,   that was for you12:59
coz_brad_,  sorry guy13:00
coz_bryan_,   do you still have ubuntu-desktop installed?13:00
bryan_coz_: ok. not sure if i do. i never installed it or anything.13:00
coz_brad_,  wait... when you installed ubuntu   did you install the gnome version or kubuntu?13:00
coz_brad_,  sorry again13:02
coz_bryan_,    did you install kubuntu or ubuntu13:02
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coz_bryan_,  if you installed kubuntu  and nothing else then you wont be able to use gnome until you install   ubuntu-desktop13:06
coz_brad_,   then "gnome" will show up in the "sessions":  when you log on13:06
coz_brad_,  sorry again I leave her after this13:07
coz_bryan_,   then "gnome" wiill show up under "Sessions" during log in13:08
coz_bryan_,  in which case the command would be  sudo apt-get install ubuntu -desktop13:08
adurithey all13:12
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e66how can I configure apt so that packages in /var/cache/apt/packages are never deleted/removed???13:40
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buzanHi. I have just installed kubuntu 9.04. Is there a graphical software updater?13:46
bryan_buzan: what are you trying to update?13:47
buzanI would like to install a few more apps.13:47
beatzzHow do you access the Folder View Settings menu if your Desktop Folder has been closed???13:47
e66buzan: yes, adept. from gtk flavour use synaptic13:47
bryan_buzan: yes there is adapt13:48
bryan_buzan: i mean adept13:48
beatzzMy friends new system, he closed the nice clear looking desktop folder on his desktop, that had all of his icons in it13:48
beatzzand he hasent been able to get it back13:48
e66Its been so long I didnt get my cds shipped.13:48
beatzzwhen I right click on mine it gives me "Folder View Settings"13:48
beatzzwhere it looks like the place where he could turn his back on13:49
buzanI don't seem to have adept..13:49
buzanIt's ok, I have it installed now but it is browse only.13:51
buzanI'm not used to sudo, I have always avoided it.13:52
shadeslayerhow do i set transperency in konsole?13:54
buzanHow do I improve the screen resolution? I am on 800x600 atm...13:55
shadeslayer!resolution | buzan13:55
ubott2buzan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution13:55
shadeslayernever mind,i found it13:56
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Rob_Stanthis is my first text on IRC14:20
Rob_StanHmm - That was exicing:)14:20
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Guest57216hi all14:26
wd4lkohi guest5721614:27
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buzanHow do I run debconf?14:34
buzanI have tried a few switches, but it's not interested14:34
shadeslayeranyone have the gpg key for neon?? i cant find it anywhere14:37
buzankubuntu is no good. The resolution is sit, 800x600. I should double that. The configuration is al hidden, the software is all locked up. The whole point of *ubuntu was to make life easy for us. It is terrible. Mandriva may be unfriendly at installing sources, but at least I can configure the resolution and install some packages without too muck help!!14:42
buzans/sit/shit s/muck/much14:42
bazhangbuzan, please don't curse here14:42
shadeslayerbuzan: did you see !resolution?14:43
buzanwhat is !resolution14:43
buzan??14:43
shadeslayer!resolution | buzan14:43
ubott2buzan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution14:43
shadeslayerbuzan: also go to K > system settings > display and try setting it from there14:44
buzanI tried that. It hung my system fromn a tree14:44
shadeslayerbuzan: ok go to K > system settings > display (i hope you have KDE)14:44
buzanI have a choice of 2, Win-3.1 or win-3.114:45
shadeslayerbuzan: ??14:45
buzan640x480 or 800x60014:45
BluesKajHiyas all14:46
buzanmandriva will let me guess and test14:46
shadeslayerbuzan: see the portion which says Setting resolution changes in xorg.conf in : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution14:47
shadeslayerbuzan: whats your graphics card btw ?14:47
fabrizio_ciao!14:49
fabrizio_ciao a tutti!14:49
shadeslayerbuzan: what happened??14:49
fabrizio_list/14:50
buzanmy graphics is nvidia, but should do 1900x1600ish14:50
shadeslayerbuzan: ok press alt+F2 and type " jockey-kde "14:50
fabrizio_ciao!14:52
shadeslayerbuzan: did the driver installer come up??14:52
buzanI am updating the driver 173 to 18014:54
shadeslayerbuzan: please do so :)14:54
buzanbtw run command don't work!14:54
shadeslayerbuzan: alt+F2 ??14:54
buzanused konsole14:54
shadeslayerbuzan: in a console type krunner14:55
buzanin a mo14:55
buzanstill updating14:55
shadeslayerbuzan: start another tab!!14:55
buzansegmentation fault14:56
buzanfor krunner14:56
shadeslayerbuzan: ...14:56
shadeslayerbuzan: you have bigger problems :P14:56
buzanI'm off for a bit to calm down. The computer needs a reboot anyway. (where have I heard that before?)14:57
phalmyheyo. I've just installed jaunty, but kde 4 is giving me gray hairs. Is it possible to revert to kde without too much acrobatics?15:12
phalmyrevert to kde 3 *15:12
max_Hi, I seem to have a problem. Any time i close Ktorrent, next time i resume it i get errors from what ever was downloading saying it cant find the data and that it needs to recreate the files. So if i have something that is 98% done, and i close ktorrent, when i open it back up it has to start back from 0%. Does anyone know what its doing this?15:12
ToreadorVampireHmm, this seems somewhat unscientific, but has anyone else experienced FF 3 being "significantly slower" in Kubuntu Jaunty than it was in Kubuntu Hardy?15:16
ToreadorVampireFF in Jaunty quite frequently stops dead and sits there for about 10-20 seconds, especially when opening new pages, and especially in .js/AJAX-heavy sites such as Facebook and Google Mail15:17
ToreadorVampireDidn't have the problem in Hardy though15:18
ToreadorVampireIt's one of the few remaining "little things" that is stopping me from completing the switch from Hardy to Jaunty (along with my annoying copy-paste problem)15:18
TMKCodesHey someone can help me out a bit? My OpenGL does not work. Got Ati Mobile Radeon X1100 gfx card15:21
kaToreador FF sucks at ajax heavy siterendering...15:27
kaI just heard of a review of Chrome for linux which handles ja much better.15:28
ToreadorVampireka> Er, yeah, I know it's not great at it - but AFAIK "the same version of FF" worked much better under Hardy15:28
kaMaybe try it out it's alpha though so your milage may vary.15:29
kaI just heard of a review of Chrome for linux which handles ja much better.15:29
ToreadorVampireka> I mean, the difference is "FF takes 0.5 seconds to render a page in Hardy" against "The FF UI locks up totally and doesn't respond to anything for 10-20 seconds in Jaunty"15:30
ToreadorVampireAnd AFAIK it's the same core FF version between them15:30
ToreadorVampireAlso, if Chrome is only alpha in Linux then I may as well install and run minefield, which means I would get Tracemonkey which is pretty much all of the benefits of Chrome anyway15:31
kaSounds like a bug to me. But if it's ubuntu or FF seems hard to determine. Give me a link and I'll check it out.15:31
ToreadorVampireka>  A link?15:31
kaTo a page tha locks up FF15:32
ToreadorVampireka> Oh, erm, take your pick from Facebook, Google Mail, or "just about anything" - it's intermittent - it doesn't always lock up15:32
ToreadorVampireka> But - I've been using FF3 on Jaunty for a month or so now and "out of the many times it does lock up" it happens most on sites that are .js heavy15:33
kaHm I use gmail everyday, all day, with no problemos. Maybe it's your Ff profile?15:34
ToreadorVampireka> Possibly, I could trash it I guess and recreate - I have a bunch of extensions installed, but they're no different to the bunch I have installed on Hardy15:34
ToreadorVampireHmm, --profilemanager IIRC15:35
kaIn fact FF used to lock up in 8.10 but then I thrashed my profile and problem was solved...15:35
ToreadorVampireGah15:36
ToreadorVampireNew FF appeared, locked up, clicked "x" twice, and the close button for xchat as right underneath the FF window, thus closed xchat by accident15:37
kaSo anyone know how I sync files to a sd card but let me skipp files bigger than say 5kb?15:37
kaToreadorVampire: I hate it when that happens15:37
kaOr said another way: How can I sync my entire folder directory to my phones sd card but skip the big files?15:40
kaOK easier question: How come konqueror is a faster filebrowser than dolphin. Even though they use the same backend for filbrowsing?15:43
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genncelenciao a tutti15:48
ToreadorVampireka> Dunno, but I don't use Dolphin, mainly because I dislike it's UI15:51
ToreadorVampireAnd whilst I could reconfigure it's UI to be "how I like it", that would result in reconfiguring dolphin to look identical to konqueror ... so ... feels like a waste of time :)15:51
DragnslcrToreadorVampire- you're getting a lot of 2-3 second freezes in Firefox?15:52
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ToreadorVampireDragnslcr> Yes, actually, a lot of them are lasting longer ... I'll try out that suggestion ka made though - just create a new/fresh FF profile and remove the old/original one15:58
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ToreadorVampireBut it'll take me a while to reconfigure that new profile to the same standard as my main profile - I have a number of extensions and configs that I absolutely cannot live without15:58
ToreadorVampireAnd I'm mid-project atm15:58
DragnslcrI've had the same problem lately. Dunno if it's something in the newer versions of Firefox16:01
* ToreadorVampire shrugs16:01
ToreadorVampireI didn't have the problem when I was using Hardy16:01
kaToreadorVampire: Yeah I had the same problem. But surprisingly most of the config stuff from my broken profile was easy to import int the new one...16:02
DragnslcrI don't remember it being a problem when I first installed 9.0416:02
Edulixhi16:28
Edulixdoes ubuntu 9.04 have any problem with acer aspire one? because I read it has problems with intel drivers16:29
zettlmdon't think so.. ;)16:30
DragnslcrYeah, there were some issues with the Intel video drivers16:33
Dragnslcr!intel16:33
ubottuUbuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.16:33
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footo9000hi17:23
footo9000<admin> lol17:24
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corigoreading and writing to the apple file system... which package?17:25
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bordencorigo: 'hfsplus' and 'hfsutils' what u lookin for, first google 'em they may be outdated somehow17:34
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www_подскажите как порты открыть на kubunte18:26
genii!ru | www_18:27
ubottuwww_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке  / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke18:27
buzankubuntu is coming to me a bit, got software installation and some graphics control. I'm a bit suprised that flightgear is so out of date! It should be up to 1.9.1 by now!18:30
buzanAs it stands, I have to install it from source, which is no problem for me, but a slight shock!18:31
eric___i have a second internal hard drive that i want to auto-mount when i login. at present, i have to give dolphin my password when i want to view the contents. how do i fix this?18:31
eric___hello?18:34
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buzaneric2, luckily i had no problems with a second hard drive with kubuntu. Did you mount it as part of the setup?18:39
eric2buzan: you mean during the OS install? no.18:40
eric2i've been poking around google, and i think i need to add a line to fstab18:40
buzanmaybe then you need to make a line in fstab to point to its partitions18:40
buzanme slow typist!18:40
eric2i'm trying to figure out how to do that now :P18:41
buzanI wonder where the hardware manager is???18:41
eric2back in kde3, there was a hard drive section in the system settings18:41
eric2you could do it through the gui18:41
buzanlet me have a little look in my fstab18:41
eric2i miss that18:41
buzanuurgh! used uuid serial numbers! not nice!18:42
buzanUUID=A614288A14286013 /mnt/largespace ntfs    defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0       118:43
eric2icky18:43
buzaneach partition has a different code....18:44
eric2i tried something... gonna re-login and see if it works18:45
buzanok18:45
buzanI notice there is no hardware manager as such.....18:47
buzanso getting a wireless keyboard working needs a reboot, and as for eric2's partitions, there is nothing except rerun the CD!18:48
buzanany luck eric_18:49
buzan?18:49
eric_still tweaking fstab18:50
bordenhi all19:01
bordenthere is no konqueror specific debug symbol package in the repo, any ideas?19:01
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TMKCodesHey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu19:14
TMKCodesHey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu19:19
Captain_HaddockHi, what's the ideal way of VNC-ing into a Linux box from Windows?19:20
ubsafderhello how do i erase all my comand history in the shell ?19:21
Piciubsafder: delete the ~/.bash_history file19:21
Captain_Haddockanybody? I'm using jaunty and there are a number of options for VNC19:27
renshi.19:30
rens....?19:31
Unksihi19:31
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Mamarokrens: hi19:35
afonsoSalut, every body!!!19:35
afonsoAnyone speak french in this hall chat??19:36
makaveliis anybody here19:36
afonsoHALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO19:37
makaveliwasssuup19:37
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makavelihm...19:37
Unksi!fr | afonso19:37
ubottuafonso: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr19:37
Unksihi19:37
makaveliThis is my first time on kubuntu...19:37
makaveliany tips? :)19:38
Unksiask here if you have problems :)19:38
Unksikpackagekit/adept is a good way to install new programs19:38
makavelithere is no problem so far19:38
Unksithats good :)19:38
makavelione ?19:38
makavelihow do I install programs into OS19:38
Unksiin kmenu (that blue K button in lower left corner), find KPackageKit and search and install :)19:39
makaveliI have 4 blocked software updates19:41
TMKCodesHey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu19:41
Unksithats been a common problem in the last few days19:41
TMKCodesmakaveli: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade19:42
makaveliwow TMK I dont get it :)) can u tell me what is that19:42
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TMKCodesmakaveli: open terminal and write that command19:42
Unksimakaveli: type that into "konsole", you will find it from the same blue kmenu19:43
dksoba88hola19:43
Unksihi19:44
Unksi!es | dksoba8819:44
ubottudksoba88: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.19:44
dksoba88wait wait wait no no19:44
dksoba88I don't speak Spanish19:44
Unksiok :p19:44
dksoba88haha I just live in San Diego19:44
Unksiheh :D19:44
Unksithats nice :p19:45
Unksihow come? work?19:45
dksoba88I can speak a bit of Mandarin Chinese but ehh... it's getting rusty19:45
dksoba88I go to UCSD19:45
dksoba88(Mechanical Engineering)19:45
Unksiahh ok :)19:45
Unksiwhole degree or just exchange?19:45
dksoba88undergraduate19:45
shadeslayerMamarok: are you there?19:45
dksoba88whole degree but I'm a transfer student19:45
Unksiok :)19:45
Unksii just did an exchange year in uk19:45
dksoba88Unksi: where's home?19:45
Unksifinland19:46
makaveliI do that19:46
TMKCodesUnksi, help out on my opengl problem. :P19:46
makaveliand he is installing somehing19:46
makaveliwtf19:46
dksoba88Unksi: sweet. My cousin just went to UK for a year...well he'll be back in August anyways19:46
rensIm the best! :D19:46
UnksiTMKCodes: you could try installing fgrlx from jockey or kpackagekit, thats as far as i can help with ati :/19:47
TMKCodesrens: I will belive it when you tell me how the heck i get my opengl to work on the open source drivers19:47
Unksidksoba88: :) yeah its a nice place.. for temporary placement :D19:47
dksoba88I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and I was messing around with the OS and widgets and stuff and I seemed to lose the default task bar/program launcher thingy19:47
TMKCodesUnksi: not for x1100 card19:47
dksoba88how can I get it back?19:47
Unksiok19:47
compilerwriterWhere would one begin to try to figure out why a fresh install of Jaunty boots only into console mode?  I can startx, but then windows runs so slowly I can barely stand it.19:47
makavelihey TMK whats this command is for "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade"19:47
TMKCodesmakaveli: Super user package update command19:48
Unksidksoba88: the kmenu? right click on desktop, select add widgets and find it from there, then drag to panel19:48
compilerwritermakaveli that will upgrade your entire your system to the next distribution19:48
TMKCodesmakaveli: that command will install the blocked updates19:48
makaveliIm using 9,0419:48
JabberWokkymakaveli: "Upgrade all packages and upgrade to the next major version"19:48
Unksicompilerwriter: not necessarily next, but all packages currently available19:49
dksoba88Unksi: thanks helps to know it's called kmenu... last time I used linux was like 5 years ago (Mandrake Linux)19:49
makaveliok thank u guys19:49
Unksi:D19:49
JabberWokkymakaveli: "Upgrade all packages and upgrade to the next major version if available"19:49
yao_ziyuanupdate-notifier doesn't work in my kubuntu 9.0419:49
TMKCodesUnksi: isn't the menu called kickoff?19:49
Unksiits called application launcher in that list19:49
yao_ziyuanupdate-notifier-kde is too buggy/memory hogging19:49
yao_ziyuanand slow.19:49
compilerwriterpackagekit doesn'19:49
yao_ziyuanwhat can i do?19:49
compilerwritert work for me.19:50
UnksiTMKCodes: kickoff was the panel in kde3, doesnt exist in kde419:50
Unksiit was replaced by plasma19:50
compilerwriterI am about to do a fresh install of ibex anc skip Jaunty altogether.19:50
yao_ziyuancompilerwriter: packagekit doesn't check a downloaded package's signature19:50
TMKCodesUnksi: kd4 menu say's its name is kickoff still.19:50
Unksioh :p19:50
Unksiits a plasma applet nowadays tho19:51
Unksiinstead of being its own program19:51
Mamarokshadeslayer: here19:51
Captain_HaddockHi, what's the ideal way of VNC-ing into a Linux box from Windows? I'm using jaunty and there are a number of options for VNC.19:53
TMKCodesCaptain_Haddock: i'm using myself KDESVN client19:53
Captain_HaddockSVN?19:53
TMKCodessorry, hups :P19:53
Captain_HaddockTMKCodes: :)19:54
TMKCodesCaptain_Haddock: KRDC can connect to VNC server and to windows19:54
Captain_HaddockI want it the other way around, TMKCodes - remote access to Kubuntu from a Windows or another Kubuntu box19:55
dksoba88Unksi: it seems like application launcher just brings up the "start menu" so to speak from windows terms19:55
Unksiyeah19:55
dksoba88but the whole bar thingy with my clock and stuff is gone19:55
dksoba88do I have to reconstruct that w/widgets?19:55
Unksiahh19:55
Unksiyeah19:55
TMKCodesCaptain_Haddock: just use vnc :)19:55
Captain_Haddockdksoba88: I think it's just called a panel or something19:55
Unksior you can restore ALL kde settings to defaults by removing .kde and relogging19:56
Unksinote that will affect every kde-based software19:56
Captain_HaddockTMKCodes: which one? :o I'll need a VNC server, presumably19:56
Captain_Haddockdksoba88: rename rather than remove :P19:56
dksoba88Unksi: probably should do something like that19:56
Captain_Haddockit's very drastic19:56
Unksiyeah, rename is better :p19:56
Captain_Haddockdksoba88: just try adding a panel... it's not too difficult19:56
TMKCodesCaptain_Haddock: realvnc :/19:57
DragnslcrCaptain_Haddock- you can use krfb to set up a VNC server19:57
Captain_Haddockinstead of "Add widgets", do "Add panel"19:57
Captain_HaddockDragnslcr: ah, cheers.19:57
Captain_HaddockDragnslcr: is there any way I can also log into the system using it?19:58
DragnslcrCaptain_Haddock- there are several other VNC servers as well (I use x11vnc), as well as xrdp for the Windows Remote Desktop program19:58
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: no "add panel" button19:58
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: take it back19:58
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: "add panel" is actually next to add widget but not in the "add widgets" window19:59
shadeslayerMamarok: sorry for the late response but i sucessfully installed kde-nightly :)19:59
TMKCodesWheepsakes.. Wants my opengl to work so i can code some sfml :/19:59
Mamarokshadeslayer: nice :)19:59
shadeslayerMamarok: i had to reinstall the complete system.....btw how do i add the google gadgets?19:59
Captain_HaddockDragnslcr: I see.. as in Windows remote desktop vs. the VNC protocol?19:59
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: Thanks for making me do that panels are pretty friggin' sweet19:59
Captain_Haddockdksoba88: I just right click on the desktop to get that menu20:00
Captain_Haddock:)20:00
DragnslcrCaptain_Haddock- yup. I've never used it, though, so I'm not sure how well it works20:00
Mamarokshadeslayer: don't know if this is installable right now20:00
TMKCodeswell RDP has some hacks before sp3 in xp :P20:00
shadeslayerMamarok: yeah,cause i click the add button and nothing happens :)20:00
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: is there a way to add a widget that's on your desktop right onto a panel?20:00
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Mamarokshadeslayer: the widget you are talking about, right?20:01
shadeslayerMamarok: but anyways if nightly is anything to go by....4.3 will rock :)20:01
Mamarok4.3 does rock :)20:01
shadeslayerMamarok: yeah...the google gadgets thing in nightly20:01
Captain_Haddockdksoba88: rightclick on the panel itself and "add widget".. I think you can also drag stuff from the "add widget" list20:01
Mamarokshadeslayer: is it a plasma widget your are taling about?20:01
Mamaroktalking20:01
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Captain_HaddockMamarok: you have a changelog handy by any chance? :)20:02
shadeslayerMamarok: oh and i have the default oxygen theme,where can i find the one in the screenshot20:02
dksoba88Captain_Haddock: ic cool thanks20:02
Mamarok"gdget thing" is not a good definition....20:02
shadeslayerMamarok: no,google gadgets in the add widget thing20:02
MamarokCaptain_Haddock: changelog of what?20:02
Captain_HaddockMamarok: KDE 4.2 -> 4.320:02
Mamarokshadeslayer: that's what I was talking about, it's third party, ping the author for that20:02
* Captain_Haddock googles20:02
MamarokCaptain_Haddock: no, but it certainly is available online or in SVN20:03
shadeslayerMamarok: ok,what about the theme ?20:03
Mamarokshadeslayer: all the stuff in kde-apps.org and kde-look.org is third party, so you need to check with the author there20:03
shadeslayerhmm20:04
dark_hallo welt20:04
TMKCodesHey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu20:04
MamarokTMKCodes: hm, that's probably a driver problem from ATI-AMD, the fglrx driver doesn't support all cards anymore...20:06
TMKCodesMamarok: i know that fglrx does not work on my card, i'm not trying to get it work, but the damn open source drivers dont work either :P20:06
TMKCodeswell open source works except for opengl20:07
MamarokTMKCodes: well it certainly does work, it just doesn't support 3D with OpenGL20:07
MamarokTMKCodes: also, free drivers are reverse engineered, so patience, if it were that simple20:07
TMKCodesMamarok: it does support20:07
Mamarokcomplaint to ATI, might one day be efficient20:07
MamarokTMKCodes: you are sure you have the correct dirver installed then?20:08
Captain_Haddock"Mandelbrot fractals as real-time computed wallpaper "20:08
Captain_Haddockwhee20:08
MamarokCaptain_Haddock: if you really want very good fractal artwork, use electric sheep20:08
TMKCodesMamarok: DRI should work out of box with my card :/20:09
MamarokTMKCodes: well, it should also with mine, but it doesn't....20:09
* Mamarok has an ATI Radeon HD 365020:09
makaveliis kubuntu using some kind of antiviruses?20:09
TMKCodesMamarok: :P20:09
Mamarokmakaveli: you don't need that in Linux20:09
Captain_Haddockelectricsheep - screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers LOL20:09
makavelihow?20:09
Mamarokmakaveli: but if you insist, install klamav20:10
Unksimakaveli: nope, because there isnt really any viruses for linux out in the wild20:10
Captain_Haddockmakaveli: nobody is really out there making viruses for Linux, yet.20:10
TMKCodesMamarok: i just think all my extensions are somewhere down there.. :/20:10
makavelithats cool Unksi :)20:10
Mamarokand even if there were, as Linux is a closed system you would have to install it yourself, and nobody does that I hope :)20:10
MamarokTMKCodes: extensions?20:11
Captain_Haddockmakaveli: it's also relatively a lot safer compared to Windows as the system files are protected by default20:11
makaveliOk Cap20:11
TMKCodesmakaveli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201639/20:12
Captain_HaddockTMKCodes: wrong nick20:13
Mamarokshadeslayer: just don't install stuff from SVN, we will all refuse to give support if you do that...20:13
makaveliIs that 4 me?20:13
TMKCodesCaptain_Haddock: Wrong nick?20:13
TMKCodeshups yeah, wrong nick xD20:14
TMKCodesMamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201639/ :P20:14
shadeslayerMamarok: oh...20:14
* shadeslayer stops20:14
TronXhi20:15
buzanin Grub menu.lst, does sd0,0  point to sda1?20:16
havocologewhere can i enable ssh to be run in kubuntu no matter what runlevel the system is in ?20:16
dksoba88I installed Kubuntu because I need a linux install for my research but now that it's installed I don't really want to go back to my windows install haha20:17
MamarokTMKCodes: same here, the free driver doesn't support it, you can have elementar stuff like transparency with XRender, but not with OpenGL20:17
Captain_Haddock:)20:17
TMKCodesMamarok: Goes and hangs myself :P20:18
MamarokTMKCodes: well, welcome to the cruel world of closed source drivers20:18
TMKCodesMamarok: Yeah. :/20:18
TronXim copying some files but plasma crashed. but how can i check the progress now?20:18
MamarokTronX: well, plasma should restart itself20:19
MamarokTronX: close the bug handler window if there is one and let it restart20:19
TronXbut im still copying files20:19
TronXbut the icon in the tray is gone20:20
TronXso how can i check the progress20:20
Captain_Haddockdid plasma restart?20:20
TronXno it didnt20:20
MamarokTronX: then restart it in a konsole20:20
Captain_Haddockyou closed that bug report window?20:20
TronXit just crashed20:21
Captain_HaddockTronX: what he said... type "plasma &" in a terminal20:21
TronXwhen i restart plasma manually the notify icon is gone20:21
Captain_Haddockah20:21
Captain_Haddockwell, if you like, you can just monitor the destination directory20:22
Captain_Haddockfile / directory sizes etc.20:22
Captain_HaddockI have no idea how to get the progress indicator back20:22
MamarokTronX: well, open the kde system monitor and check if the process is still going on, else check with Dolphin if it copied correctly20:22
Captain_Haddockperhaps if you copy another file concurrently, the applet will come back and display the original operation as well.20:22
TronXi'll try20:23
peabodybasic scripting question: I've got a directory with 150 subdirectories, and I want to run a script in each of the directories to organize files.. how do I do that?20:25
peabodyI just did a disk recovery and I've got a bajillion directories with a handful of my documents, images, etc and I want to throw them in different directories by extension, and I've wrote a script that I can run in each directory but I don't want to change into each subdirectory and run it when I know you can script that too20:26
TronXCaptain_Haddock:  didn't work20:27
Mamarokpeabody: make a recursive call then20:28
MamarokTronX: plasma crashing doesn't remove the copying process, check the system monitor for the process and the destination folder20:28
TronXyeah but i'm working on a live system20:29
TronXit takes much time20:29
TronXshit20:29
TronXnow the whole system crashed20:30
dksoba88anyone know how to make a gesture for using "present windows"20:36
PSiL0is it possible to compile qt 4.5.x in intrepid?20:41
commander_is it possible to install ubuntu inside kubuntu?20:51
hydrogeninstall the ubuntu-desktop package20:51
commander_the reason i asked is because i getting GNOME desktop on here and wasngs can be run on this desktop? wondering if all the same thi20:52
TronXfuck21:00
TronXit crashed again21:00
TronXwtf is going on?21:00
commander_hello21:00
Pici!language21:00
ubottuPlease watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:00
Rosa____hallo21:01
dksoba88are there gestures in kde 4?21:03
Captain_Haddockmakaveli; they are very likely kernel updates... I use the commandline to update stuff... when I do that, I do sudo apt-get install <paste 4 blocked apps here> to install them21:06
Captain_Haddockum, oops21:06
Captain_HaddockI was using vnc and mistakenly answered a question from ages ago.. scrolling error :/21:07
orion76help21:08
orion76NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 2121:09
orion76NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 2121:09
orion76ALSA и 5.121:15
orion76NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 2121:15
orion76?21:15
FloodBotK1orion76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.21:15
Mamarokorion76: please make understandable questions, all in one line21:17
ali1234hi. does kde4 compositing work with the newest virtualbox mesa passthru stuff?21:28
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Styx993hello21:43
Styx993is anyone here?21:44
Styx993or you can just21:45
Styx993you know21:45
Styx993ignore me21:45
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Styx993anyone here know how to work the kubuntu version update?21:48
Styx993sooo21:49
Styx993anyone here alive or anything?21:49
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Styx993wow, this is a useless irc channel, amirite?21:52
Styx993or are you all busy fapping?21:52
DragnslcrStyx993- it's pretty quiet around here this afternoon. You also might try asking a specific question21:52
Dragnslcr!language | Styx99321:52
ubottuStyx993: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly.21:52
Styx993i see21:52
Styx993well, halfway through the download of kubuntu 9.01, my connection died21:53
Styx993is there a way to get the updater back?21:53
shadeslayerStyx993: it always starts from the point it left21:55
Styx993it is gone now21:56
Styx993it decided to not start back up21:56
shadeslayerStyx993: so,whatever apt downloaded wont be downloaded again21:56
Styx993how do i start it back up?21:56
shadeslayerStyx993: is this a download of the ISO ?21:56
Styx993im upgrading from kubuntu 821:56
Styx993no21:56
DragnslcrStyx993- open /etc/apt/sources.list, look for the word "jaunty"21:56
shadeslayerStyx993: ah...upgrade21:56
Styx993k, 1 second21:56
shadeslayerStyx993: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a terminal21:57
Styx993my computer is moving at the blazing speed of frozen molasses21:57
Styx993aah, thank you21:57
Styx993thats what i needed21:57
DragnslcrStyx993- if you see "jaunty" for all the sources instead of "intrepid", you can just do a normal update to get the rest of the packages you need21:57
Styx993k21:58
Styx993thx21:58
Styx993and theyre all intrepid still21:58
shadeslayerStyx993: change them to jaunty22:00
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shadeslayerStyx993: search for a clean jaunty sources.list (google) and replace it with your sources.list and then dist-upgrade22:01
Styx993k, thank you22:02
PapaChubHow can I configure the Terminal Bell in "konsole" (Jaunty) ? I can't find it under "Settings -> Edit Current Profile..."22:11
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Styx993thanks for the help, shadeslayer and DragnsIcr22:12
shadeslayerStyx993: no problem22:12
ign0ramushey Walzmyn22:14
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andrew__I'm a bit diasappointed that I can't boot Windows or another Linux partition. Windows is on a scsi based sda1 and LFS is on effectively ide 0 slave, hdb7. kubuntu is on hdb522:17
andrew__using sd0,0 for windows in my menu.lst is a parsing error22:19
ikoniahow is that anything to do with kubuntu ?22:19
Styx993did you try hd0,0?22:19
andrew__hd0,0 is an invalid or unsupportable executable format22:20
Styx993for windows are you using chainloader +1?22:20
ikoniaandrew__: sd0,0 is not a valid format22:20
ikoniaandrew__: grub uses disks with "hd" pre-appenend22:21
andrew__Styx, yes22:21
andrew__as prepared by the kubuntu system itself.22:21
Styx993hmm22:21
ikoniaandrew__: can you boot kubuntu yes/no ?22:22
Styx993wait, unsupported executable format for windows?22:22
andrew__kubuntu yes, anything else, no22:22
andrew__Styx, yes22:22
ikoniaandrew__: ok - so the problem is the menu.lst config for the other OS's22:22
Styx993that's weird, it shouldnt look at that...22:22
shadeslayerwhere can i find the ktorrent plasmoid source?22:23
ikoniain the repo22:23
ikoniawith the source for all the other packages22:23
ikoniashadeslayer: if there is a package for it - there is a source package22:23
shadeslayerikonia: ok..but i need the tarball of it to be specific so that i can do plasmapkg -i <tarball>22:23
ign0ramusshadeslayer, check out 'plasma-widget-ktorrent'22:24
ikoniashadeslayer: then look on the website22:24
shadeslayerign0ramus: um...i have that installed..i need it on kde-nightly22:24
shadeslayerikonia: whose website?22:24
ikoniashadeslayer: then you are not supported here22:24
ikoniashadeslayer: as you well know22:24
shadeslayerikonia: i just need the source...22:24
ikoniashadeslayer: then you are not supported here22:24
shadeslayerim not asking for kde-nightly support22:24
ikoniashadeslayer: then you are not supported here22:24
ign0ramusshadeslayer, check here: http://ktorrent.org/?q=downloads22:25
shadeslayerign0ramus: nope22:25
ikoniashadeslayer: stop asking pleaqse22:25
ikoniaplease22:25
shadeslayerikonia: im just asking for the tarball...whats the harm>22:25
ign0ramusshadeslayer, if the widget is not part of the tarball, i don't know what else to say22:25
shadeslayer*?22:26
ikoniashadeslayer: because it's not supported22:26
ikoniashadeslayer: stop asking please22:26
shadeslayerikonia: if you say so22:26
andrew__http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/201715/ - my menu.lst22:28
ikoniaandrew__: for some reason that pastebin is timing out22:30
andrew__Okay, try http://pastebin.com/m349d24b222:33
commander_does anyone have cairo dock?22:33
ikoniaandrew__: you have modified that file22:34
andrew__so? the original was useless for anything else22:34
andrew__if it worked I wouldn't have tried to fix it!22:35
ikoniaandrew__: well you've modified it using "sd" grub knowns nothing about that, it only uses hd22:35
andrew__okay, we'll try that then.22:35
andrew__hd0,0 and hdb1,622:36
ikoniayou don't need to re-do "setup"22:37
ikoniajust change the menu.lst22:37
andrew__I know. LFS taught me a few things.22:38
ikoniathen why are you saying hd0,0  ?22:38
andrew__for Windows, sd022:38
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ikoniano22:38
ikoniasd0 means nothing to grub22:39
andrew__I'll try hd022:39
ikoniawhat are you on about22:39
ikoniahd0 is the boot sector on your disk22:39
andrew__what should I try for my sda1? hd0 or hd0,0?22:40
ikoniadepends on your device.map file, but hd0,0 is the norm22:40
andrew__ok22:40
andrew__back in 522:40
jean_pierre_czgot a little problem with Ark - it doesn't extract RAR files22:41
jean_pierre_czcan anybody help me?22:41
ikoniajean_pierre_cz: have you installed the rar/unrar packages ?22:41
jean_pierre_czyes22:42
jean_pierre_czbut I think that it is due to the upgrade to KDE 4.2.9022:42
jean_pierre_czI can unrar in CLI22:42
ikoniaso sounds like ark isn't linked into the rar libs22:42
jean_pierre_czyeah, there is a problem with PATH22:43
jean_pierre_czi got also a warning notification concerning this22:43
jean_pierre_czbut I don't know how to solve it22:43
jean_pierre_czmaybe the solution is just wait for KDE 4.322:44
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Guest95161Hola, alguien me puede ayudar y darme un link para ingresar a la comunidad en español?22:44
Styx993can you use dd to copy a specific number of bytes?22:44
ign0ramus!es | Guest9516122:44
ubottuGuest95161: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.22:44
Guest95161thanks!!!22:45
ign0ramusGuest95161, de nada :)22:45
Styx993anyway...22:45
Styx993is there any way i can copy 448 raw bytes from one disk to another using dd?22:46
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ign0ramusStyx993, not sure, but i'd imagine it'd be something like "dd if=<source> of=<target> bs=<byte size> ..."22:48
Styx993hmm22:48
Styx993tried that, but it copied 6.7mb22:48
Styx993and destroyed the fs, so now i need to re-copy it22:48
ign0ramusStyx993, you specified a value for 'bs' ?22:48
Styx993yes22:49
Styx993i specified 44822:49
ign0ramusStyx993, also, there are restrictions on the number of bytes you can specify22:49
Styx993?22:49
ign0ramusStyx993, i believe 512 is the smallest value you can specify22:50
Styx993crap22:50
ign0ramusStyx993, yeah... see here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/#post184800622:51
JuJuBeeWhat do I need to install to get pico?22:51
ign0ramusJuJuBee, not that it answers your question, but what's wrong with nano?22:52
JuJuBeeIve used it for so long, my fingers know how to type it22:52
JuJuBeeits automatic...22:52
JuJuBeeand nothing wrong with nano...22:52
JuJuBeemore curious as to why it is gone?22:52
ign0ramusJuJuBee, don't know, but a quick apt-cache search reveals only nano and nano-tiny (?)22:53
Styx993aha22:55
JuJuBeeYea, I  already looked.  Funny, last fresh install I had it now it is gone.22:55
Styx993i had to set the count22:55
Dragnslcrnano essentially supersedes pico22:56
ign0ramusJuJuBee, i never really used pico... are the shortcuts that much different/22:56
DragnslcrIf it's just a matter of habit of typing "pico" you can just symlink /usr/bin/nano to /usr/bin/pico22:56
JuJuBeeno22:56
Styx993argh22:57
Styx993im gonna go, my usb is too slow for this22:57
Styx993cya22:57
andrew___http://pastebin.com/m55cfcdab for the last menu.lst (last section given)23:02
andrew___savedefault and makeactive look unusual to me23:05
andrew___maybe the root on lfs should be sdb7...23:05
andrew___remming out savedefault and makeactive for Windows and changing to root=/dev/sda7 for linux boot23:07
andrew___report errors shortly!23:07
andrew___(make that sdb7!)23:08
andrew__exactly the same errors! Kubuntu can only boot itself!23:13
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jackstrawok I am using kubuntu 8.10 and I am trying to install yahoo instant messenger. when I try to use the deb package installer it says libglib1.2 not satisfiable. I tried to re install the dependency and the same thing. is there anyone that can help me with this?23:32
vbgunzman amazon.com is just killing my konqueror23:36
jackstrawok I am using kubuntu 8.10 and I am trying to install yahoo instant messenger. when I try to use the deb package installer it says libglib1.2 not satisfiable. I tried to re install the dependency and the same thing. is there anyone that can help me with this?23:38
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CooltigerDoes anyone have problems with pidgin and yahoo msg. accounts?23:43
LadyNikonno23:43
Cooltigerthe problem also exists with Kopete apperently23:43
jackstrawyeah it dosent work23:43
Cooltigerit was working about a day ago23:44
LadyNikonmy yahoo messanger works fine23:44
jackstrawI am trying to install yahoo instant messenger for linux right now23:44
jackstrawI know I am having the same problom23:44
jackstrawyou will have the same problom with all instant messenger programs23:45
LadyNikonlemme switch to kubuntu23:45
LadyNikonmaybe i am wrong23:45
LadyNikonbrb23:45
jackstrawI am trying to get this issue resolved right now and no one seems to be helping23:45
jason__I have fixed it before by a full reinstall of ubuntu but that is not as fun as it sounds23:46
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LadyNikonok maybe i was wrong23:50
jackstrawthaks a whole hell of alot for sending me in ubuntu-chat all of you people can go to hell23:51
LadyNikonyou people?23:51
cooltiger?23:51
LadyNikonook.23:51
LadyNikoni just booted into kubuntu to help him out23:52
LadyNikonheh23:52
* LadyNikon shrugs23:52
darkmatteryou'd think he would yell at yahoo instead23:52
LadyNikonfunny i guess i never set it up on this side23:53

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