[00:05] how can i mount non-standard data dvds? === caglar is now known as Guest52970 [00:07] blizzz: what do you mean by non-standard? [00:07] Mamarok: not iso9660 [00:07] blizzz: should work, try it [00:08] Mamarok: doesn't, i tried [00:08] blizzz: what format? [00:08] blizzz: could very well be because fstap expects iso9660 by default [00:09] if i knew that... a friend burned it on windows a couple of months ago. i am relatively sure that i had could open it some time ago, but that was with a far prior kubuntu version [00:09] blizzz: check if your /etc/fstab has an iso95660 entry for the drive, then that is the problem [00:10] Mamarok: it even fails mounting manually [00:10] blizzz: of course, if the fstab settings are as I expect they are... [00:11] blizzz: check if there is an entry in /etc/fstab for the drive [00:11] http://pastebin.kubuntu-de.org/785 [00:12] Mamarok: no there isn't. other cds/dvds can be mounted anyway [00:13] Hello, is there someone who would be willing to explain the differences between mounting an external fat-partition in windows and linux to me? [00:13] blizzz: most CDs and DVDs are iso9660... [00:13] Mamarok: yes, but this one is obviously not [00:14] blizzz: could you paste the /etc/fstab file in http://paste.ubuntu.com, please? [00:16] Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201147/ i don't think it is a problem with the fstab because other discs are mounted as expected [00:19] blizzz: you don't have an entry for the drive, that's strange [00:19] Mamarok: that's needless [00:26] Mamarok: quick question : can i boot a ISO image from a HD ? [00:30] one of my files on the live USB drive is corrupted will copying (not installing) the contents of the ISO on to the USB solve the problem? [00:34] gn8 [00:37] I'm still looking for information on how linux handles fat32 (especially on removable media). I think I'm probably looking for info on how it handles hidden sectors... Anyone know anthing about it? Or maybe has an idea where I could get this information? [00:46] I want to install kubuntu... how large should my swap partition be? [00:47] I think the usual suggestion is somewhere around twice your RAM [00:47] my ram is 4GB [00:47] so 8GB??? [00:51] If you have the extra disk space, might as well [00:51] cool, thanks === rgreening_ is now known as rgreening [01:04] in kopete how do i set up a gmail account? [01:05] i specifically need the settings under the connections tab [01:10] let me check [01:10] Hey, I'm in a serious bind if anyone wants to help... [01:10] ActionParsnip: never mind...i googled it [01:10] ActionParsnip: i just need to find the place where i can hide offline contacts now [01:10] eamonn: sup? [01:10] shadeslayer- http://www.google.com/support/talk/bin/answer.py?answer=57557 [01:11] http://www.johnoriordan.ie/index.php/2007/06/06/using-gmail-on-kopete/ [01:11] is it possible for me to install xfce but without all the additional programs? i would like to use all my existing programs from KDE, but use xfce... is this possible [01:11] Yeah [01:11] I had the same problem early on. [01:12] ActionParsnip: where do i configure the hide offline contacts thing? [01:12] irc portuguese [01:12] found it -_- [01:12] shadeslayer: i dont even know whatthat is :-/ [01:12] Just go to your package manager (synaptic, kpackage, or adept) and searck for xfce [01:12] ActionParsnip: hehe..never mid :P [01:12] *mind [01:12] lovre: sudo apt-get install xfce4 [01:12] ActionParsnip: wouldnt that just install everything? [01:12] ActionParsnip: i dont want *any* additional programs [01:12] lovre: you can use kde apps in xfce [01:13] lovre: no, if you want everything you need: sudo apt-get install xubuntu-desktop [01:13] ActionParsnip: ah, i see [01:13] ActionParsnip: thank you :D [01:13] lovre: it will install what is needed to run and configure xfce [01:13] ActionParsnip: so i can logout and select xfce? [01:13] lovre: it will not install mousepad / swiftfox etc [01:14] ActionParsnip: i dont have laptop... so its ok... [01:14] ActionParsnip: how about drivers, will they work? [01:14] lovre: sure, i use lxde instead for lightness, but use some kde apps [01:14] graphics, sound? [01:14] ActionParsnip: i just did a comlete reinstall [01:14] lovre: the DE is nothing to do with drivers [01:14] ActionParsnip: Okay, I set up a machine to dual boot windows and Ubuntu, right? But when I go to select my OS in grub, my keyboard does not accept input, so I can't select before it times out. [01:14] ActionParsnip: yes, im tired and noob, ofcourse. stupid. [01:15] lovre: no, its good to ask. i treat all the same [01:15] ActionParsnip: thank you very much :) [01:15] eamonn: hmm strange [01:15] eamonn: laptop / desktop / usb keyboard / ps2 keyboard ? [01:15] ActionParsnip: usb [01:16] ActionParsnip: would it require much setting up after install? if yes, where can i find instructions (clear ones possibly= [01:16] eamonn: tried a different port? is legacy usb enabled in bios? [01:16] lovre: depends what you want to change. most settings are ok but better support for the DE will be given in #xubuntu [01:16] ActionParsnip: I've tried several ports, there are 8 in total, so I'll go test each one now. I'll check the BIOS first. brb [01:18] ActionParsnip: ok thanx again :) [01:18] ActionParsnip: Thanks! Looks like USB keyboard support is disabled. I'll try again with it enabled. [01:18] eamonn: np man [01:18] lovre: np duder [01:20] hello roo, [01:20] ActionParsnip: Thank you very much, it is working just fine now. [01:21] F1 F1 please [01:21] Near the top-left corner of your keyboard [01:21] Next to "Esc" probably [01:22] i have a question as i am new to linux [01:27] skorpius: ask away [01:27] can someone tell me any good video editor exept kdenlive and cinelerra [01:28] !info kino [01:28] kino (source: kino): Non-linear editor for Digital Video data. In component main, is extra. Version 1.3.0-2.1ubuntu4 (jaunty), package size 4262 kB, installed size 9428 kB [01:29] !info avidemux [01:29] avidemux (source: avidemux): a free video editor - gtk version. In component multiverse, is optional. Version 1:2.4.4-0.0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 3157 kB, installed size 8228 kB [01:30] another question [01:31] can i install kde with ome without installing all K packages like koffice ketc etc [01:32] skorpius: sure, just need to find the right name [01:32] bye all [01:32] Should be able to. I know koffice isn't part of kdebase [01:32] I'd shoot for kdebase-bin [01:33] thnx let me have a look [01:33] kubuntu-desktop would give you a reasonable amount of KDE [01:34] or at least, what a default kubuntu install would give you [01:35] JontheEchidna: all the kubuntu apps are antedto be avoided. s/he only wats the DE without the extra appsin the meta package [01:35] well honestly i dont like to work in kde actually i love to use amarok and kdenlive. [01:36] amarok is working smooth with gnome but kdenlive crashes all the time so i wanted to install kde just to edit videos in kdenlive [01:36] skorpius: then simply install amarok, the required packages will be pulled down and you cacontinue to use whichever DE you prefer [01:38] hello, i wanna connect to serebii channel, what i can do? [01:39] !serbia [01:39] Sorry, I don't know anything about serbia [01:40] kdebase-bin looks smaller. [01:40] skorpius: it has Qt dependancies which will be needed. you will install more than just that package [01:41] do you think after having these bineries kdenlive will work? [01:41] I use a program called gcstar to maintain my video/movie database and when I start movies with it (using the system default which I set to smplayer) there is no sound unless I stop the movie and re-open it through smplayer. any ideas why this would happen? [01:41] skorpius: its free to try [01:42] by the way, it doesn't happen if I use gnome or another window manager, just kde 4.2.3. any ideas? [01:42] i have qt dependencies ActionParsnip but only kdenlive is giving troubles other K packages working smooth [01:42] !serebii [01:42] Sorry, I don't know anything about serebii [01:44] after exploring alot of forums i got this conclusion that kdenlive is not very smooth with gnome === vorian is now known as stevie [01:51] nahhhh the same problem [01:51] anyway thanks for the help === stevie is now known as vorian [02:00] which torrent manager should i install> [02:00] no gnome libraries please [02:01] ktorrent works fine for me [02:01] Dragnslcr: any other alternative? [02:01] I'm sure there are plenty [02:02] yeah the !torrent factoid has many....half of them are gnome === ubuntu is now known as _Commande_ === _Commande_ is now known as _CommandeR_ [02:05] <_CommandeR_> Hi, anyone tried the USB boot, problem is how do you save the xorg.conf from changing back to deffault every time ? [02:14] Does Kubuntu 9.04 come with KDE 4.2 or 4.0? [02:18] Psi-Jack- I think the release discs have 4.2.2 [02:20] hey gents, how do i change the login sound in KDE4? [02:20] i cant find the sound prefs [02:21] halfsane- System Settings -> Notifications [02:22] In the KDE System Notifications category [02:22] Dragnslcr: oh thanks! i check there real quick and just kept looking around [02:29] <_CommandeR_> How do you save settings to the xorg.conf when running Ubuntu from USB ? [02:32] so [02:32] this guy has a stupid question [03:04] could someone assist me with a search? i am trying to find a way to make my wrt54g into a wireless hub- Im at a hotel that doesn support lan lines.. [03:05] supposedly the hyperwrt or something like that does it- [03:06] i have tomato on one of my wrt's ... [03:06] but thats for my VOIp. === |Draglor| is now known as Draglor [03:33] can someone help: i am trying to restore my grub boot menu (installed windows7 dual boot) through the live cd. at the grub terminal i type "fine /boot/grub/stage1" and i get "error 15: file not found." any ideas anyone? [03:38] !grub [03:38] GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto === ubuntu is now known as _CommandeR_ [04:12] Anyone want to help me with radeon drivers and opengl? My opengl does not work. :/ http://tmk.pastebin.com/f1b67d2e8 [04:18] to perdido [04:18] aqui [04:18] alguem sabe como entro no do brasil === thomas_ is now known as booky [04:31] I have a question any 1 kno how i can change my video setting from 24 bit to 32 Bit i just resently installed linux and cant swap to my 32 bit setting any more [04:32] i am trying to run a program from termianl, and have been typing just the name what am i doing wrong? === solid_liq is now known as solid_liqAFK === solid_liqAFK is now known as SolidLiq === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq === hemathor_ is now known as hemathor [04:45] bryan_: ./programname [04:48] does anyone have any experince with boxee? [04:59] anyone here using amarok 2.1.1 ? i have a slight issue w/ it insisting on stoping after each track. i can't seam to find out how i either enabled the setting or how to stop it from doing it ... [05:00] Serpardum: please do you know how to switch from English to French in Open Office? [06:12] hi, good morning, i'm from indonesia [06:13] sumon, need help in indonesian? #ubuntu-id [06:13] ok, thanx [06:19] hi === desti_T2 is now known as desti [06:45] Hi, i've been haveing problems with the bugginess of jaunty lately. Anyone know of a way to downgrade back to intrepid? [06:45] ful reinstall Neon_ [06:58] how do i reload .profile and .bashrc without logging out ? [07:11] good morning [07:12] if i create a raid1 (mirror) with my mainboard's sata-controller, then in the kubuntu installer i see two hd's, instead of one? should i create the riad1 with kubuntu? === TheFuzzball is now known as element [07:57] join ex-chat [07:57] where i can turn off the effects ? This fading and transparancy ? [07:58] idk i am so new to ubuntu i am trying to find stuff out [07:59] how do i join channels ? [08:01] donavan_: type: /join #channelnamehere [08:01] o lol [08:01] thank you [08:01] staar2: system settings - desktop - enable desktop effects [08:01] donavan_: yw [08:02] jussi01: ty works better now [08:02] :) [08:05] any improvments to make it more faster :D ? [08:06] does any one here use ubuntu [08:07] donavan_: I do on one pc... [08:07] !anyone [08:07] A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out? [08:07] staar2: got your gfx card drivers installed if needed? [08:08] i got to say, i have no idea [08:08] as i got the integrated graphic card [08:08] staar2: which brand? [08:09] but i can say it runs faster then XFCE now [08:09] intel, nvidia, ati? [08:09] laptop NC6220 [08:09] Intel [08:09] ok :) [08:09] i am trying to run wow on my pc with ubuntu and its a wnidows exe how would i be able to use it on ubuntu [08:09] 950 something [08:09] no need for drivers then [08:09] !wine | donavan_ [08:09] I have question how to configure samba? [08:09] donavan_: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu [08:09] !ask | wangyuan [08:09] wangyuan: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [08:10] what text editors you use for coding ? gvim ? [08:10] thank you [08:10] staar2: kate on kubuntu for graphical, but its very much up to you [08:10] !editors [08:10] Text Editors: gedit (GNOME), Kate (KDE), mousepad (Xfce4) - Terminal-based: nano, vi/vim, emacs - For HTML/CSS editors, see !html - For programming editors and IDE, see !code [08:11] for kate is there a plugins page to ? [08:12] staar2: are you looking for a text editor or an IDE? [08:12] !code | staar2 [08:12] staar2: Programming editors/suites: Terminal-based: vi/vim, emacs - KDE: Kate, KDevelop, Quanta+, Umbrello - GNOME: gvim, gedit, anjuta, pida, monodevelop, geany - Others: eclipse, netbeans [08:12] php, sql, js, html [08:13] kate should be fine i think ? [08:13] is there some third-party plugins for that to ? [08:14] staar2: have you had a look at it? ;) [08:14] yes i looked the extensions part [08:15] i just tried to watch a vid on youtube and it said to install a flash driver i did and i tried to watch it again and it stilll says the same thing [08:15] * jussi01 doesnt know much about kate, but assumes so... google may help [08:16] donavan_: install the kubuntu-restricted-extras package [08:16] were would i do that [08:16] donavan_: kmenu - system - kpackagekit [08:16] ? [08:17] donavan_: go to the kmenu, then to system, then to kpackagekit... [08:18] were would i find that in ubuntu [08:18] donavan_: you are in ubuntu, not kubuntu??? [08:18] o [08:19] i am so sorry [08:19] donavan_: /join #ubuntu [08:19] :) [08:19] donavan_: but its in system, administration, synaptic package manager [08:20] then install ubuntu-restricted-extras [08:24] now what would i do ? [08:26] i found out i think [08:27] donavan_: click search, type ubuntu-restricted-extras, click on the box, mark for install, click apply? [08:27] i did that [08:28] once its done, restart firefox, watch you tube! [08:28] yay thank you [08:37] can I install kdvi on ubuntu 9.04? [08:38] what is the diff between ubuntu and kubuntu [08:39] donavan_: the bases of both system are the same, but ubuntu use gnome as main desktop enviroment and kubuntu KDE [08:39] Idhan: does kdvi still exist.. thought it was replaced by okular [08:40] hola [08:40] but okular is really bad with forward/inverse search :-( [08:40] Idhan: Intrepid was the last release that came with kdvi [08:40] !info kdvi intrepid [08:41] kdvi (source: kdvi): dvi viewer for KDE. In component universe, is optional. Version 4:3.5.10-0ubuntu1 (intrepid), package size 1283 kB, installed size 3288 kB [08:41] Idhan: don't think you can easily install it, as it depends on all these KDE3 libs which probably don't exist in Jaunty [08:41] xjjk: thanks.. [08:45] Hey is there away to update from Kubuntu 7.04 to 9.04 just by changing the respitories? [08:45] !update [08:45] For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - To upgrade to Jaunty (9.04) directly from Hardy (8.04) see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/JauntyUpgrades/Kubuntu/8.04 - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading [08:45] cody, no [08:46] Well I will probably have to go up in distro versions then? [08:46] because I edited the sources.list on my install of 7.04 so I can get to 7.10 but nothing happened. [08:46] should read the upgrade notes, as 7.04 is end of life [08:46] yeah I knw :[ [08:47] at this point backing up and doing a fresh install would be a better option [08:47] Okay, I see. [08:47] I was thinking the same thing, It's a fresh install anyways. [08:47] read the notes though :) [08:47] sure [08:48] oh in that case not much lost [08:48] doesn't hurt to learn more I guess lol. [09:00] hello, how do i install kde 4 in hardy? [09:02] *tap* *tap* *tap anyone here? [09:02] echo! === gozde is now known as gozde__ [09:12] echo... echo... echo... [09:14] hi [09:14] can i ask something? [09:15] !ask nobode11 [09:15] Sorry, I don't know anything about ask nobode11 [09:15] !ask [09:15] Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-) [09:16] By asking if you can ask, you've alredy asked a question. So Just ask you real question [09:17] i want to install kde4 on hardy - but the guide says execute this: sudo apt-get install kde-nightly [09:17] nightly builds are not stable right? [09:19] I would not say that "nightly builds are not all stable." I would say some nihtly builds are not stable. That might be what you wre trying to say bt it was confusion [09:20] !kde-nightly [09:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about kde-nightly [09:20] !nightly [09:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about nightly [09:20] hmm [09:20] !nightstand [09:20] Sorry, I don't know anything about nightstand [09:20] ... [09:20] ok i am about to execute this: http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-install-kde-42/ [09:21] sudo apt-get install kde-nightly [09:21] someone stop me.... [09:21] strange....couldn't find package it says [09:22] too sleeply. [09:24] wake up [09:24] wake up [09:24] where is everybody????? [09:28] .. [09:36] hello === joschi_ is now known as Joschi [09:58] hellow === raphink_ is now known as raphink [10:37] hello [10:37] I can I use nepomuk to create a view of files with 5 stars? [10:40] HalphaZ: you need to build the Index first [10:41] yo yo yo [10:41] Mamarok: ok... how? I went in system setting and started nepomuk [10:41] but not strigi [10:42] nepomuk is running [10:42] strigi not [10:42] !info strigi [10:42] Package strigi does not exist in jaunty [10:42] so I suppose that nepomuk had build the index === solid_liqAFK is now known as solid_liq === solid_liq is now known as solid_liqAFK [10:43] strigi rules [10:43] HalphaZ: well, you need Strigi of course, and if you look for apt-cache search strigi you will find it [10:43] Nepomuk doesn't build an index, Strigi does [10:43] and Nepomuk uses that index [10:44] see also here for more documentation: http://nepomuk.kde.org/node/2 [10:44] strigi-daemon? [10:45] I'm on jaunty [10:46] HalphaZ Yeah you need strigi and you will also probably have to make a link to a java library to get it working properly. [10:48] hola [10:48] ?? [10:49] HalphaZ: Once you get strigi installed and if it doesn't work properly, go here and follow the directions: http://kubuntuforums.net/forums/index.php?topic=3102231.0 [10:49] !es | nik [10:49] nik: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [10:49] FeasibilityStudy: thank you, I'm going to read :-) [10:49] Does anyone else has problems with installing plasmoid in kde 4.3 beta2 ? [10:51] arvid_: you mean the plasmapkg problem? [10:51] there seems to be a bug currently [10:52] Mamarok: sounds likely [10:53] hy === solid_liqAFK is now known as SolidLiq [11:01] strigi seems to work :-) [11:02] HalphaZ: could just use the find command ;) [11:02] ActionParsnip: yes... could use pen and paper [11:03] could use letters instead of irc [11:03] a "broadcast" letter .-D [11:03] HalphaZ: true, but how much searching do you actually do? [11:04] ActionParsnip: I just need to understand what semantic desktop is [11:04] I'm looking for answers [11:06] HalphaZ: http://www.semanticdesktop.org/xwiki/bin/view/Main/WebHome [11:07] HalphaZ: scroll 50% down [11:08] hello, is it possible to disable to spell check on KNotes ? [11:10] :-) going to try nepomuk... lol [11:15] sugalo: not used it, its on my removefluff script when i install a fresh system [11:18] ActionParsnip: so what should i do ? [11:19] sugalo: no idea. as i said, i dont use it. i'm sure others do, maybe then can advise [11:19] sugalo: if not, try later in the day, different users etc [11:20] ActionParsnip: ok sorry ; i thought you were saying your script compiles your system without aspell [11:22] sugalo: no it strips about 60% of the OS out [11:22] sugalo: as well as installing flash and video drivers [11:22] heh ok [11:23] theres a lot i dont use, like knotes, evince, pdf rubbish, pppoe stuff [11:23] stuff like that, out [11:24] sugalo: my install is just over 2Gb by the end [11:25] yeah it's amazing the number of softwares installed that i don't use ; maybe even more than on windows [11:27] sugalo: rip them out, save space [11:28] ActionParsnip: i'm lazy :( and space is not a problem anymore nowadays ^^ [11:30] sugalo: i like a punchy system hence me skimming the fat [11:35] ActionParsnip: excuse me... I can I search file using ratings? [11:35] now that strigi is running it should be possible [11:35] the last problem is that I don't know how to do [11:35] HalphaZ: i dont use strigi so i woldnt know [11:36] HalphaZ: file ratings is another thing i am unfamiliar with [11:36] thanks [11:40] wow [11:41] how much people are idle here? [11:41] matthew__: a few :D [11:41] damn [11:41] 200 people and all of them are idle pretty much [11:41] matthew__: is there something you need help with? [11:41] sure I got a question [11:41] I did sudo apt-get install kubuntu [11:41] where is the power management located on kde [11:42] and when I run KDE programs under GNome is that like emulating KDE and running the application? [11:42] matthew__, sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [11:42] i know that [11:42] i done that already [11:42] matthew__, oh sorry [11:42] coz_: system settings - advanced - power management [11:42] i'm wondering when I run KDE programs. UNDER gnome desktop [11:42] does it emulate the KDE desktop under gnome?> [11:42] matthew__: no, no emulation , just running them as normaö [11:43] normal [11:43] like wine? [11:43] no [11:43] Can I run xfce applications under gnome also? [11:43] just loads the libraries it needs and runs them - they are all linux apps [11:43] of course [11:43] hmm what other desktop managers are there? [11:44] many many of them, I really suggest you browse google for those [11:44] coz_: got it? [11:44] yeah I'm better off just uninstalling kubuntu and installing the applications from SPM [11:44] to remove kubuntu just sudo apt-get remove kubuntu? [11:44] jussi01, I think so I done want monitor to sleep and I am used to gnome myself [11:45] Hrm, small issue. I cant seem to get my iphone picture dir to mount on kubuntu. works on UNR and normal ubuntu out of the box... :/ [11:45] jussi01, but loving kde 4.3 beta:) [11:45] coz_: the monitor power mangaement is under system settings, display, power control [11:45] jussi01, ah let me check :) [11:46] sudo apt-get autoremove kubuntu-desktop [11:46] will that remove the desktop of kubuntu? [11:46] !puregnome | matthew__ [11:46] matthew__: If you want to remove all !KDE packages, type « sudo apt-get remove kdelibs4c2 kdelibs5-data && sudo apt-get install ubuntu-desktop » into a !terminal [11:46] I'm on gnome [11:46] but I did the sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop [11:46] yes... [11:46] I know... [11:46] read what the bot said... [11:47] and this will remove the session on login screen also? [11:47] so gnome will be the only desktop? [11:54] hey guys.. I notice unde system settings/login manager tht the settings are greyed out....do I need to open t his as root to access those settings? [11:55] coz_: kdesudo systemsettings [11:55] ActionParsnip, thanks trying now :) [11:55] coz_: yes as its a system wide change which users are not allowed to change [11:56] coz_: kdesudo will run the gu iapp with elevated access [11:58] ActionParsnip, thanks I kind of figured that but wasnt sure on kde ... so used to know... but loving kde 4.3 beta :) [11:58] coz_: no worries man, good to ask. I've given up on kde [11:59] ActionParsnip, oh? interesting kde 4.2.4 I uninstalled and did want to deal with it again...tryed ubutu 9.10 with kde 4.3 beta and i may be sold not sure I am giving it a week :) [12:00] i'm sticking with lxde [12:00] ActionParsnip, oh yeah love that as well but some issues running certain things including dual monitors/nvidia [12:00] ActionParsnip, love the speed of it though :) [12:01] coz_: surely dual monitor is managed by nvidia-settings like in any other de? [12:01] ActionParsnip, it is but with compiz running there are strange issues wall paper on secondary monitor doesnt get disaplyed just a transparent monitor :) [12:02] ActionParsnip, eventually it shows it self after playing with some settings but then I lose desktop right click [12:02] oh man compi, theres something i dont use at all [12:02] horrible junky thing [12:03] ActionParsnip, :) well I am one of the support team for it cant escape it but it's a good thing I really like it then ? [12:03] :) [12:03] ActionParsnip, I thought I remember you on #compiz some time back ? [12:04] yeah when i as loking at it, breaks too much and i want my system to be fast rather than waiting for animations to finish [12:04] ActionParsnip, oo shouldnt break not 0.8.2 [12:05] coz_: its good yuo like it if you use it. ive had people having to make scripts to disable compiz then run a game, then rerun compiz once its finished [12:05] coz_: not exactly practical, this was the other week too [12:05] and for the sake of a little gloss, not worth the heartache [12:05] ActionParsnip, well some of that is dependent on video card but generally there is no need to disable it and with fusion icon it is a simple right click to disable that [12:06] coz_: but a WM shouldnt have to be disabled to run another app, its preposterous [12:06] ActionParsnip, I never stop compiz for games unless they dont respect the dual monitor setup and then I just disable dual monitors not compiz [12:07] ActionParsnip, I think you may have had bad advice [12:07] coz_: its adding an extra complication for users, they have to think which apps need compiz disable and which they can leave it running [12:07] i think its a joke [12:07] ActionParsnip, well the only apps are a couple games everything else runs fine with compiz even on kde :) [12:08] everything runs great on lxde, i just run things as i like [12:08] and i have a tonne ore ram free too [12:08] ActionParsnip, compiz runs really fast on lxde :) [12:08] *more [12:08] Hi.. [12:09] seems kinda counter intuitive to run compiz on lxde dont you think... [12:09] !hi | libervisco [12:09] libervisco: Hi! Welcome to #kubuntu! [12:09] ActionParsnip, nah :) [12:09] !ot [12:09] #kubuntu is the official Kubuntu support channel, for all Kubuntu-related support questions. Please use #kubuntu-offtopic for general chatter. Thanks! [12:09] coz_: lxde is supposed to be light, then you bloat it out with compiz.. [12:10] thanks :) [12:10] ActionParsnip, ok i wont argue :) [12:10] I have some issues with KDE's compositing (at least I think it's compositing).. [12:10] and coz_, why run compiz on kde4? kwin has pretty much the same features and works nicely on nvidia dualhead... [12:10] libervisco: do ask your question...? [12:11] jussi01, no the two are not quite the same and as I said I have to support compiz so its what I have to run [12:11] there are a bunch of stuff.. but among the most annoying are the dots that appear on the top left part of the screen.. [12:11] and even flash sometimes.. [12:11] I'm using KDE 4.2.4 on kubuntu jaunty with Nvidia 9600GT (with installed drivers) [12:12] libervisco: do they appear no the normal deskto por when you run a particular app? [12:12] desktop effects are enabled, plasma theme is glassified.. [12:12] they're above everything [12:12] gonna upload a screenshot.. [12:12] libervisco: ok, but are they triggered b a particular app running? [12:13] hmm no as far as I can tell.. iirc they come up after login [12:14] http://memenode.com/misc/dots.png [12:14] http://memenode.com/misc/dots2.png === keffie_jayx is now known as effie_jayx [12:15] it's like someone poked holes in it with a needle :D [12:15] same pattern o0 [12:16] libervisco, which video card is this out of curiosity? [12:17] Zotac Geforce 9600GT [12:17] just bought it.. (partly because of KDE4.. I was actually running windows 7 for a few weeks.. cause my old Radeon X800 was no longer supported with full drivers on linux).. [12:20] hm that even shows when I turn off compositing.. [12:22] libervisco: does it happen on more than one monitor, do you have one to test? [12:23] ActionParsnip, no.. just this one.. [12:23] LCD, LG S1919S [12:23] hm I could play with resolutions... [12:24] libervisco: makes sense, if they are in the same place and same size its the monitor [12:24] I don't know about that.. then it should display everywhere else.. GNOME, Windows 7 etc.. and it doesn't [12:25] changing resolution doesn't make it go away [12:25] libervisco, out of curiousity ... are desktop effects enabled? [12:25] also.. if it's the monitor how would I take a screenshot? [12:25] libervisco: but are the dots identical or have they chaged with the resolution? [12:26] coz_, they were, I just disabled to see if it disappears, but it didn't so that doesn't make much difference.. [12:26] ActionParsnip, they changed.. on lower resolution everything is "bigger", including dots.. [12:26] ah oh something is writing them to the desktop then [12:26] ok thats more information :) [12:26] :) [12:27] I wonder if anyone else had a similar issue.. [12:27] libervisco: i use an onboard nvidia 6150 128mb, works awesomely but i dont use desktop effects or kde [12:28] ah [12:28] libervisco, when did this start happening? [12:28] it's mostly weird glitches like this in KDE4.. I tried every game I could install, with maxed out settings.. the Nvidia card plus drivers is the awesomest 3D combination for linux.. [12:29] any help on using amarok 2 with ipod/iphone on kubuntu 9.04 ? [12:29] libervisco: amen! [12:29] coz_, well.. this is a new install.. pretty much from the beginning.. [12:29] !ipod | zirikili [12:29] zirikili: For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod [12:29] Hi. Anyone know why dropbox works fine on my laptop but not on my main PC? There is just a blank space in my system tray... [12:29] I made a new install after putting the new card in [12:29] libervisco, ooo and you have already done all the updates etc? and which nvidia driver are you using? [12:29] libervisco: full updated? [12:29] yes [12:29] and nvidia driver 180 === user___ is now known as ghostman [12:30] the "recommended" one [12:30] !RockBox [12:30] rockbox is an open source firmware replacement for audio players from Archos, iRiver, Apple (iPod), and iAudio. See http://www.rockbox.org/ to get started! [12:30] libervisco, right same here [12:31] can't wait for 4.3 final... it might have some of this stuff fixed... [12:31] libervisco, well I am running the beta now and it is really nice [12:31] libervisco, although I have karmic istalled [12:31] already? :D [12:31] Karmis is still Alpha 2 right? [12:31] libervisco, yeah its alpha 2 right now but seems to be just fine [12:32] hehe [12:32] I tried 4.3 beta 2 in a previous install, while I was still on Radeon X800.. and it was freezing like all other KDE4.. I guess the xorg driver and KDE4 don't play well.. [12:32] libervisco, i am actually quite impressed with kde 4.3 beta I am a long time kde hater :) [12:32] 4.2 would freeze too though so it's nothing specific about 4.3 [12:33] libervisco, sounds more like video driver issues [12:33] yeah [12:33] but there's no more freezing on the new nvidia :) [12:33] libervisco, generally any freeze ups are video drivers problems [12:34] I installed a program called Boxee, and now it runs for a sec and then exits. What should I try? [12:34] libervisco, this dot pattern is strange [12:35] yeah :S [12:35] libervisco, it is the same pattern no matter what right? [12:35] a bit related.. plasma elements sometimes leave trails behind them too.. [12:35] it seems so.. [12:35] libervisco, mm compiz running? [12:36] the trail is more like.. when a plasma is closed, for example, the border of it partly remains until I move some window and it refreshes desktop.. [12:36] no compiz [12:36] libervisco, I did see that on 4.2.3 [12:36] libervisco, there were always ghost outlines of the windows with plasma [12:37] oh.. is that fixed in 4.3? [12:37] libervisco, I have seen none of that so far [12:37] great :) [12:37] libervisco, actually it is much faster === liquidat_ is now known as liquidat [12:37] maybe I should upgrade.. [12:38] libervisco, and I have an nvidia 6600LE with the 180.14 driver [12:38] libervisco, your's should be flying [12:38] yeah :) [12:38] libervisco, give karmic a try [12:39] that too.. it is kinda sluggish occasionally.. not a big deal but enough to be felt.. [12:39] libervisco, I never do upgrade on ubuntu but this time I decided to try [12:39] like when minimizing a window it feels like it's not entirely smooth [12:39] libervisco, well I am seeing none of that on the beta [12:39] I'm thinking of getting the backport.. [12:40] full karmic still brings in a lot of the other stuff that could be unstable or work in progress.. :) [12:41] libervisco, as I said it seems to be fine right now [12:41] libervisco, this was a "throw away" install untill I upgraded [12:46] how do i change from pulseaudio to alsa? I cant find where the setting is. [12:50] brad_, system settings / multimedia? [12:52] is there anyway to switch from kubunutu to ubunutu? [12:52] \nick resnose [12:53] bryan__, log off username then password but before you hit enter click the "sessionis' button choose gnome [12:53] "sessions" button [12:54] thanks :) [12:54] coz_: thanks :) [12:54] brad_, no problem :) [12:58] coz_: i did not see an option for gnome. [12:59] brad_, do you still have ubuntu-desktop installed? [12:59] coz_: are you calling my brad? [12:59] sorry [12:59] bryan_, that was for you [13:00] brad_, sorry guy [13:00] bryan_, do you still have ubuntu-desktop installed? [13:00] coz_: ok. not sure if i do. i never installed it or anything. [13:00] brad_, wait... when you installed ubuntu did you install the gnome version or kubuntu? [13:02] brad_, sorry again [13:02] bryan_, did you install kubuntu or ubuntu === eli_ is now known as Elirips [13:06] bryan_, if you installed kubuntu and nothing else then you wont be able to use gnome until you install ubuntu-desktop [13:06] brad_, then "gnome" will show up in the "sessions": when you log on [13:07] brad_, sorry again I leave her after this [13:08] bryan_, then "gnome" wiill show up under "Sessions" during log in [13:08] bryan_, in which case the command would be sudo apt-get install ubuntu -desktop [13:12] hey all === roberto_ is now known as roberto__ === roberto__ is now known as roberto_ [13:40] how can I configure apt so that packages in /var/cache/apt/packages are never deleted/removed??? === andrew_ is now known as Guest77569 === Guest77569 is now known as buzan [13:46] Hi. I have just installed kubuntu 9.04. Is there a graphical software updater? [13:47] buzan: what are you trying to update? [13:47] I would like to install a few more apps. [13:47] How do you access the Folder View Settings menu if your Desktop Folder has been closed??? [13:47] buzan: yes, adept. from gtk flavour use synaptic [13:48] buzan: yes there is adapt [13:48] buzan: i mean adept [13:48] My friends new system, he closed the nice clear looking desktop folder on his desktop, that had all of his icons in it [13:48] and he hasent been able to get it back [13:48] Its been so long I didnt get my cds shipped. [13:48] when I right click on mine it gives me "Folder View Settings" [13:49] where it looks like the place where he could turn his back on [13:49] I don't seem to have adept.. [13:51] It's ok, I have it installed now but it is browse only. [13:52] I'm not used to sudo, I have always avoided it. [13:54] how do i set transperency in konsole? [13:55] How do I improve the screen resolution? I am on 800x600 atm... [13:55] !resolution | buzan [13:55] buzan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [13:56] never mind,i found it === zoltan_ is now known as Guest57216 [14:20] this is my first text on IRC [14:20] Hmm - That was exicing:) === carolija is now known as CarolijaEgg [14:26] hi all [14:27] hi guest57216 === zoltan_ is now known as Guest32910 === andrew_ is now known as Guest87100 === Guest87100 is now known as buzan === CarolijaEgg is now known as carolija [14:34] How do I run debconf? [14:34] I have tried a few switches, but it's not interested [14:37] anyone have the gpg key for neon?? i cant find it anywhere [14:42] kubuntu is no good. The resolution is sit, 800x600. I should double that. The configuration is al hidden, the software is all locked up. The whole point of *ubuntu was to make life easy for us. It is terrible. Mandriva may be unfriendly at installing sources, but at least I can configure the resolution and install some packages without too muck help!! [14:42] s/sit/shit s/muck/much [14:42] buzan, please don't curse here [14:43] buzan: did you see !resolution? [14:43] what is !resolution [14:43] ?? [14:43] !resolution | buzan [14:43] buzan: The X Window System is the part of your system that's responsible for graphical output. To restart your X, type « sudo /etc/init.d/?dm restart » in a console - To fix screen resolution or other X problems: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [14:44] buzan: also go to K > system settings > display and try setting it from there [14:44] I tried that. It hung my system fromn a tree [14:44] buzan: ok go to K > system settings > display (i hope you have KDE) [14:45] I have a choice of 2, Win-3.1 or win-3.1 [14:45] buzan: ?? [14:45] 640x480 or 800x600 [14:46] Hiyas all [14:46] mandriva will let me guess and test [14:47] buzan: see the portion which says Setting resolution changes in xorg.conf in : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Config/Resolution [14:47] buzan: whats your graphics card btw ? [14:49] ciao! [14:49] ciao a tutti! [14:49] buzan: what happened?? [14:50] list/ [14:50] my graphics is nvidia, but should do 1900x1600ish [14:50] buzan: ok press alt+F2 and type " jockey-kde " [14:52] ciao! [14:52] buzan: did the driver installer come up?? [14:54] I am updating the driver 173 to 180 [14:54] buzan: please do so :) [14:54] btw run command don't work! [14:54] buzan: alt+F2 ?? [14:54] used konsole [14:55] buzan: in a console type krunner [14:55] in a mo [14:55] still updating [14:55] buzan: start another tab!! [14:56] segmentation fault [14:56] for krunner [14:56] buzan: ... [14:56] buzan: you have bigger problems :P [14:57] I'm off for a bit to calm down. The computer needs a reboot anyway. (where have I heard that before?) [15:12] heyo. I've just installed jaunty, but kde 4 is giving me gray hairs. Is it possible to revert to kde without too much acrobatics? [15:12] revert to kde 3 * [15:12] Hi, I seem to have a problem. Any time i close Ktorrent, next time i resume it i get errors from what ever was downloading saying it cant find the data and that it needs to recreate the files. So if i have something that is 98% done, and i close ktorrent, when i open it back up it has to start back from 0%. Does anyone know what its doing this? [15:16] Hmm, this seems somewhat unscientific, but has anyone else experienced FF 3 being "significantly slower" in Kubuntu Jaunty than it was in Kubuntu Hardy? [15:17] FF in Jaunty quite frequently stops dead and sits there for about 10-20 seconds, especially when opening new pages, and especially in .js/AJAX-heavy sites such as Facebook and Google Mail [15:18] Didn't have the problem in Hardy though [15:18] It's one of the few remaining "little things" that is stopping me from completing the switch from Hardy to Jaunty (along with my annoying copy-paste problem) [15:21] Hey someone can help me out a bit? My OpenGL does not work. Got Ati Mobile Radeon X1100 gfx card [15:27] Toreador FF sucks at ajax heavy siterendering... [15:28] I just heard of a review of Chrome for linux which handles ja much better. [15:28] ka> Er, yeah, I know it's not great at it - but AFAIK "the same version of FF" worked much better under Hardy [15:29] Maybe try it out it's alpha though so your milage may vary. [15:29] I just heard of a review of Chrome for linux which handles ja much better. [15:30] ka> I mean, the difference is "FF takes 0.5 seconds to render a page in Hardy" against "The FF UI locks up totally and doesn't respond to anything for 10-20 seconds in Jaunty" [15:30] And AFAIK it's the same core FF version between them [15:31] Also, if Chrome is only alpha in Linux then I may as well install and run minefield, which means I would get Tracemonkey which is pretty much all of the benefits of Chrome anyway [15:31] Sounds like a bug to me. But if it's ubuntu or FF seems hard to determine. Give me a link and I'll check it out. [15:31] ka> A link? [15:32] To a page tha locks up FF [15:32] ka> Oh, erm, take your pick from Facebook, Google Mail, or "just about anything" - it's intermittent - it doesn't always lock up [15:33] ka> But - I've been using FF3 on Jaunty for a month or so now and "out of the many times it does lock up" it happens most on sites that are .js heavy [15:34] Hm I use gmail everyday, all day, with no problemos. Maybe it's your Ff profile? [15:34] ka> Possibly, I could trash it I guess and recreate - I have a bunch of extensions installed, but they're no different to the bunch I have installed on Hardy [15:35] Hmm, --profilemanager IIRC [15:35] In fact FF used to lock up in 8.10 but then I thrashed my profile and problem was solved... [15:36] Gah [15:37] New FF appeared, locked up, clicked "x" twice, and the close button for xchat as right underneath the FF window, thus closed xchat by accident [15:37] So anyone know how I sync files to a sd card but let me skipp files bigger than say 5kb? [15:37] ToreadorVampire: I hate it when that happens [15:40] Or said another way: How can I sync my entire folder directory to my phones sd card but skip the big files? [15:43] OK easier question: How come konqueror is a faster filebrowser than dolphin. Even though they use the same backend for filbrowsing? === richard is now known as Guest93634 [15:48] ciao a tutti [15:51] ka> Dunno, but I don't use Dolphin, mainly because I dislike it's UI [15:51] And whilst I could reconfigure it's UI to be "how I like it", that would result in reconfiguring dolphin to look identical to konqueror ... so ... feels like a waste of time :) [15:52] ToreadorVampire- you're getting a lot of 2-3 second freezes in Firefox? === yml_ is now known as yml [15:58] Dragnslcr> Yes, actually, a lot of them are lasting longer ... I'll try out that suggestion ka made though - just create a new/fresh FF profile and remove the old/original one === Tsukasa-FD is now known as Being_Tsukasa [15:58] But it'll take me a while to reconfigure that new profile to the same standard as my main profile - I have a number of extensions and configs that I absolutely cannot live without [15:58] And I'm mid-project atm [16:01] I've had the same problem lately. Dunno if it's something in the newer versions of Firefox [16:01] * ToreadorVampire shrugs [16:01] I didn't have the problem when I was using Hardy [16:02] ToreadorVampire: Yeah I had the same problem. But surprisingly most of the config stuff from my broken profile was easy to import int the new one... [16:02] I don't remember it being a problem when I first installed 9.04 [16:28] hi [16:29] does ubuntu 9.04 have any problem with acer aspire one? because I read it has problems with intel drivers [16:30] don't think so.. ;) [16:33] Yeah, there were some issues with the Intel video drivers [16:33] !intel [16:33] Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information. === jayhunold is now known as jhunold_ [17:23] hi [17:24] lol === manish is now known as manish779 [17:25] reading and writing to the apple file system... which package? === manish is now known as manish` [17:34] corigo: 'hfsplus' and 'hfsutils' what u lookin for, first google 'em they may be outdated somehow === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot === remigijus is now known as ReekenX === benoit_ is now known as Guest59922 === kb is now known as Guest7825 === blizzzek is now known as blizzz === atilla is now known as atillux [18:26] подскажите как порты открыть на kubunte [18:27] !ru | www_ [18:27] www_: Пожалуйста посетите #ubuntu-ru для получения помощи на русском языке / Pozhalujsta posetite #ubuntu-ru dlya polucheniya pomoshi na russkom yazyke [18:30] kubuntu is coming to me a bit, got software installation and some graphics control. I'm a bit suprised that flightgear is so out of date! It should be up to 1.9.1 by now! [18:31] As it stands, I have to install it from source, which is no problem for me, but a slight shock! [18:31] i have a second internal hard drive that i want to auto-mount when i login. at present, i have to give dolphin my password when i want to view the contents. how do i fix this? [18:34] hello? === eric___ is now known as eric2 [18:39] eric2, luckily i had no problems with a second hard drive with kubuntu. Did you mount it as part of the setup? [18:40] buzan: you mean during the OS install? no. [18:40] i've been poking around google, and i think i need to add a line to fstab [18:40] maybe then you need to make a line in fstab to point to its partitions [18:40] me slow typist! [18:41] i'm trying to figure out how to do that now :P [18:41] I wonder where the hardware manager is??? [18:41] back in kde3, there was a hard drive section in the system settings [18:41] you could do it through the gui [18:41] let me have a little look in my fstab [18:41] i miss that [18:42] uurgh! used uuid serial numbers! not nice! [18:43] UUID=A614288A14286013 /mnt/largespace ntfs defaults,nls=utf8,umask=007,gid=46 0 1 [18:43] icky [18:44] each partition has a different code.... [18:45] i tried something... gonna re-login and see if it works [18:45] ok [18:47] I notice there is no hardware manager as such..... [18:48] so getting a wireless keyboard working needs a reboot, and as for eric2's partitions, there is nothing except rerun the CD! [18:49] any luck eric_ [18:49] ? [18:50] still tweaking fstab [19:01] hi all [19:01] there is no konqueror specific debug symbol package in the repo, any ideas? === kevin__ is now known as canadaeh [19:14] Hey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu [19:19] Hey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu [19:20] Hi, what's the ideal way of VNC-ing into a Linux box from Windows? [19:21] hello how do i erase all my comand history in the shell ? [19:21] ubsafder: delete the ~/.bash_history file [19:27] anybody? I'm using jaunty and there are a number of options for VNC [19:30] hi. [19:31] ....? [19:31] hi === compilerwriter is now known as Guest84802 [19:35] rens: hi [19:35] Salut, every body!!! [19:36] Anyone speak french in this hall chat?? [19:36] is anybody here [19:37] HALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO [19:37] wasssuup === compilerwriter is now known as Guest52045 [19:37] hm... [19:37] !fr | afonso [19:37] afonso: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr [19:37] hi [19:37] This is my first time on kubuntu... [19:38] any tips? :) [19:38] ask here if you have problems :) [19:38] kpackagekit/adept is a good way to install new programs [19:38] there is no problem so far [19:38] thats good :) [19:38] one ? [19:38] how do I install programs into OS [19:39] in kmenu (that blue K button in lower left corner), find KPackageKit and search and install :) [19:41] I have 4 blocked software updates [19:41] Hey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu [19:41] thats been a common problem in the last few days [19:42] makaveli: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade [19:42] wow TMK I dont get it :)) can u tell me what is that === Guest52045 is now known as compilerwriter [19:42] makaveli: open terminal and write that command [19:43] makaveli: type that into "konsole", you will find it from the same blue kmenu [19:43] hola [19:44] hi [19:44] !es | dksoba88 [19:44] dksoba88: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [19:44] wait wait wait no no [19:44] I don't speak Spanish [19:44] ok :p [19:44] haha I just live in San Diego [19:44] heh :D [19:45] thats nice :p [19:45] how come? work? [19:45] I can speak a bit of Mandarin Chinese but ehh... it's getting rusty [19:45] I go to UCSD [19:45] (Mechanical Engineering) [19:45] ahh ok :) [19:45] whole degree or just exchange? [19:45] undergraduate [19:45] Mamarok: are you there? [19:45] whole degree but I'm a transfer student [19:45] ok :) [19:45] i just did an exchange year in uk [19:45] Unksi: where's home? [19:46] finland [19:46] I do that [19:46] Unksi, help out on my opengl problem. :P [19:46] and he is installing somehing [19:46] wtf [19:46] Unksi: sweet. My cousin just went to UK for a year...well he'll be back in August anyways [19:46] Im the best! :D [19:47] TMKCodes: you could try installing fgrlx from jockey or kpackagekit, thats as far as i can help with ati :/ [19:47] rens: I will belive it when you tell me how the heck i get my opengl to work on the open source drivers [19:47] dksoba88: :) yeah its a nice place.. for temporary placement :D [19:47] I just installed Kubuntu 9.04 and I was messing around with the OS and widgets and stuff and I seemed to lose the default task bar/program launcher thingy [19:47] Unksi: not for x1100 card [19:47] how can I get it back? [19:47] ok [19:47] Where would one begin to try to figure out why a fresh install of Jaunty boots only into console mode? I can startx, but then windows runs so slowly I can barely stand it. [19:47] hey TMK whats this command is for "sudo apt-get dist-upgrade" [19:48] makaveli: Super user package update command [19:48] dksoba88: the kmenu? right click on desktop, select add widgets and find it from there, then drag to panel [19:48] makaveli that will upgrade your entire your system to the next distribution [19:48] makaveli: that command will install the blocked updates [19:48] Im using 9,04 [19:48] makaveli: "Upgrade all packages and upgrade to the next major version" [19:49] compilerwriter: not necessarily next, but all packages currently available [19:49] Unksi: thanks helps to know it's called kmenu... last time I used linux was like 5 years ago (Mandrake Linux) [19:49] ok thank u guys [19:49] :D [19:49] makaveli: "Upgrade all packages and upgrade to the next major version if available" [19:49] update-notifier doesn't work in my kubuntu 9.04 [19:49] Unksi: isn't the menu called kickoff? [19:49] its called application launcher in that list [19:49] update-notifier-kde is too buggy/memory hogging [19:49] and slow. [19:49] packagekit doesn' [19:49] what can i do? [19:50] t work for me. [19:50] TMKCodes: kickoff was the panel in kde3, doesnt exist in kde4 [19:50] it was replaced by plasma [19:50] I am about to do a fresh install of ibex anc skip Jaunty altogether. [19:50] compilerwriter: packagekit doesn't check a downloaded package's signature [19:50] Unksi: kd4 menu say's its name is kickoff still. [19:50] oh :p [19:51] its a plasma applet nowadays tho [19:51] instead of being its own program [19:51] shadeslayer: here [19:53] Hi, what's the ideal way of VNC-ing into a Linux box from Windows? I'm using jaunty and there are a number of options for VNC. [19:53] Captain_Haddock: i'm using myself KDESVN client [19:53] SVN? [19:53] sorry, hups :P [19:54] TMKCodes: :) [19:54] Captain_Haddock: KRDC can connect to VNC server and to windows [19:55] I want it the other way around, TMKCodes - remote access to Kubuntu from a Windows or another Kubuntu box [19:55] Unksi: it seems like application launcher just brings up the "start menu" so to speak from windows terms [19:55] yeah [19:55] but the whole bar thingy with my clock and stuff is gone [19:55] do I have to reconstruct that w/widgets? [19:55] ahh [19:55] yeah [19:55] Captain_Haddock: just use vnc :) [19:55] dksoba88: I think it's just called a panel or something [19:56] or you can restore ALL kde settings to defaults by removing .kde and relogging [19:56] note that will affect every kde-based software [19:56] TMKCodes: which one? :o I'll need a VNC server, presumably [19:56] dksoba88: rename rather than remove :P [19:56] Unksi: probably should do something like that [19:56] it's very drastic [19:56] yeah, rename is better :p [19:56] dksoba88: just try adding a panel... it's not too difficult [19:57] Captain_Haddock: realvnc :/ [19:57] Captain_Haddock- you can use krfb to set up a VNC server [19:57] instead of "Add widgets", do "Add panel" [19:57] Dragnslcr: ah, cheers. [19:58] Dragnslcr: is there any way I can also log into the system using it? [19:58] Captain_Haddock- there are several other VNC servers as well (I use x11vnc), as well as xrdp for the Windows Remote Desktop program [19:58] Captain_Haddock: no "add panel" button [19:58] Captain_Haddock: take it back [19:59] Captain_Haddock: "add panel" is actually next to add widget but not in the "add widgets" window [19:59] Mamarok: sorry for the late response but i sucessfully installed kde-nightly :) [19:59] Wheepsakes.. Wants my opengl to work so i can code some sfml :/ [19:59] shadeslayer: nice :) [19:59] Mamarok: i had to reinstall the complete system.....btw how do i add the google gadgets? [19:59] Dragnslcr: I see.. as in Windows remote desktop vs. the VNC protocol? [19:59] Captain_Haddock: Thanks for making me do that panels are pretty friggin' sweet [20:00] dksoba88: I just right click on the desktop to get that menu [20:00] :) [20:00] Captain_Haddock- yup. I've never used it, though, so I'm not sure how well it works [20:00] shadeslayer: don't know if this is installable right now [20:00] well RDP has some hacks before sp3 in xp :P [20:00] Mamarok: yeah,cause i click the add button and nothing happens :) [20:00] Captain_Haddock: is there a way to add a widget that's on your desktop right onto a panel? === orlando is now known as Guest57108 [20:01] shadeslayer: the widget you are talking about, right? [20:01] Mamarok: but anyways if nightly is anything to go by....4.3 will rock :) [20:01] 4.3 does rock :) [20:01] Mamarok: yeah...the google gadgets thing in nightly [20:01] dksoba88: rightclick on the panel itself and "add widget".. I think you can also drag stuff from the "add widget" list [20:01] shadeslayer: is it a plasma widget your are taling about? [20:01] talking === Guest57108 is now known as mefizto [20:02] Mamarok: you have a changelog handy by any chance? :) [20:02] Mamarok: oh and i have the default oxygen theme,where can i find the one in the screenshot [20:02] Captain_Haddock: ic cool thanks [20:02] "gdget thing" is not a good definition.... [20:02] Mamarok: no,google gadgets in the add widget thing [20:02] Captain_Haddock: changelog of what? [20:02] Mamarok: KDE 4.2 -> 4.3 [20:02] shadeslayer: that's what I was talking about, it's third party, ping the author for that [20:02] * Captain_Haddock googles [20:03] Captain_Haddock: no, but it certainly is available online or in SVN [20:03] Mamarok: ok,what about the theme ? [20:03] shadeslayer: all the stuff in kde-apps.org and kde-look.org is third party, so you need to check with the author there [20:04] hmm [20:04] hallo welt [20:04] Hey. Anyone can help out? I am running kubuntu 9.04 with ati mobile radeon x1100 and my opengl does not work havent changed anything from the driver setup after installing kubuntu [20:06] TMKCodes: hm, that's probably a driver problem from ATI-AMD, the fglrx driver doesn't support all cards anymore... [20:06] Mamarok: i know that fglrx does not work on my card, i'm not trying to get it work, but the damn open source drivers dont work either :P [20:07] well open source works except for opengl [20:07] TMKCodes: well it certainly does work, it just doesn't support 3D with OpenGL [20:07] TMKCodes: also, free drivers are reverse engineered, so patience, if it were that simple [20:07] Mamarok: it does support [20:07] complaint to ATI, might one day be efficient [20:08] TMKCodes: you are sure you have the correct dirver installed then? [20:08] "Mandelbrot fractals as real-time computed wallpaper " [20:08] whee [20:08] Captain_Haddock: if you really want very good fractal artwork, use electric sheep [20:09] Mamarok: DRI should work out of box with my card :/ [20:09] TMKCodes: well, it should also with mine, but it doesn't.... [20:09] * Mamarok has an ATI Radeon HD 3650 [20:09] is kubuntu using some kind of antiviruses? [20:09] Mamarok: :P [20:09] makaveli: you don't need that in Linux [20:09] electricsheep - screensaver showing collective dream of sleeping computers LOL [20:09] how? [20:10] makaveli: but if you insist, install klamav [20:10] makaveli: nope, because there isnt really any viruses for linux out in the wild [20:10] makaveli: nobody is really out there making viruses for Linux, yet. [20:10] Mamarok: i just think all my extensions are somewhere down there.. :/ [20:10] thats cool Unksi :) [20:10] and even if there were, as Linux is a closed system you would have to install it yourself, and nobody does that I hope :) [20:11] TMKCodes: extensions? [20:11] makaveli: it's also relatively a lot safer compared to Windows as the system files are protected by default [20:11] Ok Cap [20:12] makaveli: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201639/ [20:13] TMKCodes: wrong nick [20:13] shadeslayer: just don't install stuff from SVN, we will all refuse to give support if you do that... [20:13] Is that 4 me? [20:13] Captain_Haddock: Wrong nick? [20:14] hups yeah, wrong nick xD [20:14] Mamarok: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201639/ :P [20:14] Mamarok: oh... [20:14] * shadeslayer stops [20:15] hi [20:16] in Grub menu.lst, does sd0,0 point to sda1? [20:16] where can i enable ssh to be run in kubuntu no matter what runlevel the system is in ? [20:17] I installed Kubuntu because I need a linux install for my research but now that it's installed I don't really want to go back to my windows install haha [20:17] TMKCodes: same here, the free driver doesn't support it, you can have elementar stuff like transparency with XRender, but not with OpenGL [20:17] :) [20:18] Mamarok: Goes and hangs myself :P [20:18] TMKCodes: well, welcome to the cruel world of closed source drivers [20:18] Mamarok: Yeah. :/ [20:18] im copying some files but plasma crashed. but how can i check the progress now? [20:19] TronX: well, plasma should restart itself [20:19] TronX: close the bug handler window if there is one and let it restart [20:19] but im still copying files [20:20] but the icon in the tray is gone [20:20] so how can i check the progress [20:20] did plasma restart? [20:20] no it didnt [20:20] TronX: then restart it in a konsole [20:20] you closed that bug report window? [20:21] it just crashed [20:21] TronX: what he said... type "plasma &" in a terminal [20:21] when i restart plasma manually the notify icon is gone [20:21] ah [20:22] well, if you like, you can just monitor the destination directory [20:22] file / directory sizes etc. [20:22] I have no idea how to get the progress indicator back [20:22] TronX: well, open the kde system monitor and check if the process is still going on, else check with Dolphin if it copied correctly [20:22] perhaps if you copy another file concurrently, the applet will come back and display the original operation as well. [20:23] i'll try [20:25] basic scripting question: I've got a directory with 150 subdirectories, and I want to run a script in each of the directories to organize files.. how do I do that? [20:26] I just did a disk recovery and I've got a bajillion directories with a handful of my documents, images, etc and I want to throw them in different directories by extension, and I've wrote a script that I can run in each directory but I don't want to change into each subdirectory and run it when I know you can script that too [20:27] Captain_Haddock: didn't work [20:28] peabody: make a recursive call then [20:28] TronX: plasma crashing doesn't remove the copying process, check the system monitor for the process and the destination folder [20:29] yeah but i'm working on a live system [20:29] it takes much time [20:29] shit [20:30] now the whole system crashed [20:36] anyone know how to make a gesture for using "present windows" [20:41] is it possible to compile qt 4.5.x in intrepid? [20:51] is it possible to install ubuntu inside kubuntu? [20:51] install the ubuntu-desktop package [20:52] the reason i asked is because i getting GNOME desktop on here and wasngs can be run on this desktop? wondering if all the same thi [21:00] fuck [21:00] it crashed again [21:00] wtf is going on? [21:00] hello [21:00] !language [21:00] Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [21:01] hallo [21:03] are there gestures in kde 4? [21:06] makaveli; they are very likely kernel updates... I use the commandline to update stuff... when I do that, I do sudo apt-get install to install them [21:06] um, oops [21:07] I was using vnc and mistakenly answered a question from ages ago.. scrolling error :/ [21:08] help [21:09] NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 21 [21:09] NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 21 [21:15] ALSA и 5.1 [21:15] NVidia nForce2 with CMI9761A+ at irq 21 [21:15] ? [21:15] orion76: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation. [21:17] orion76: please make understandable questions, all in one line [21:28] hi. does kde4 compositing work with the newest virtualbox mesa passthru stuff? === edulix_ is now known as Edulix === miguel is now known as Guest88366 === spider is now known as Guest90467 === solid_liqAFK is now known as solid_liq === solid_liq is now known as solid_liqAFK === se7enthsky is now known as Me === Me is now known as Guest4239 [21:43] hello [21:44] is anyone here? [21:45] or you can just [21:45] you know [21:45] ignore me === solid_liqAFK is now known as SolidLiq [21:48] anyone here know how to work the kubuntu version update? [21:49] sooo [21:49] anyone here alive or anything? === SolidLiq is now known as solid_liq [21:52] wow, this is a useless irc channel, amirite? [21:52] or are you all busy fapping? [21:52] Styx993- it's pretty quiet around here this afternoon. You also might try asking a specific question [21:52] !language | Styx993 [21:52] Styx993: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [21:52] i see [21:53] well, halfway through the download of kubuntu 9.01, my connection died [21:53] is there a way to get the updater back? [21:55] Styx993: it always starts from the point it left [21:56] it is gone now [21:56] it decided to not start back up [21:56] Styx993: so,whatever apt downloaded wont be downloaded again [21:56] how do i start it back up? [21:56] Styx993: is this a download of the ISO ? [21:56] im upgrading from kubuntu 8 [21:56] no [21:56] Styx993- open /etc/apt/sources.list, look for the word "jaunty" [21:56] Styx993: ah...upgrade [21:56] k, 1 second [21:57] Styx993: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade in a terminal [21:57] my computer is moving at the blazing speed of frozen molasses [21:57] aah, thank you [21:57] thats what i needed [21:57] Styx993- if you see "jaunty" for all the sources instead of "intrepid", you can just do a normal update to get the rest of the packages you need [21:58] k [21:58] thx [21:58] and theyre all intrepid still [22:00] Styx993: change them to jaunty === solid_li` is now known as solid_liq [22:01] Styx993: search for a clean jaunty sources.list (google) and replace it with your sources.list and then dist-upgrade [22:02] k, thank you [22:11] How can I configure the Terminal Bell in "konsole" (Jaunty) ? I can't find it under "Settings -> Edit Current Profile..." === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Free 9.04 (KDE 4) CDs https://shipit.kubuntu.org | KDE 4.2.4 available http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4 | 4.3 beta arrivig in Kubuntu Backports PPA (disable if you don't want it) https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Tutorials Monday 19:00UTC https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic === Riddell changed the topic of #kubuntu to: Official Kubuntu support | FAQ: https://wiki.kubuntu.org/FAQ | Free 9.04 (KDE 4) CDs https://shipit.kubuntu.org | KDE 4.2.4 available http://kubuntu.org/news/kde-4.2.4 | 4.3 beta arrivig in Kubuntu Backports PPA (disable if you don't want it) https://launchpad.net/~kubuntu-ppa/+archive/backports | Pastes: http://paste.ubuntu.com | Tutorials Monday 19:00UTC https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay | Chat in #kubuntu-offtopic [22:12] topicdiff: Tutorials Monday 19:00UTC https://wiki.kubuntu.org/KubuntuTutorialsDay [22:12] thanks for the help, shadeslayer and DragnsIcr [22:12] Styx993: no problem [22:14] hey Walzmyn === edulix_ is now known as Edulix [22:17] I'm a bit diasappointed that I can't boot Windows or another Linux partition. Windows is on a scsi based sda1 and LFS is on effectively ide 0 slave, hdb7. kubuntu is on hdb5 [22:19] using sd0,0 for windows in my menu.lst is a parsing error [22:19] how is that anything to do with kubuntu ? [22:19] did you try hd0,0? [22:20] hd0,0 is an invalid or unsupportable executable format [22:20] for windows are you using chainloader +1? [22:20] andrew__: sd0,0 is not a valid format [22:21] andrew__: grub uses disks with "hd" pre-appenend [22:21] Styx, yes [22:21] as prepared by the kubuntu system itself. [22:21] hmm [22:22] andrew__: can you boot kubuntu yes/no ? [22:22] wait, unsupported executable format for windows? [22:22] kubuntu yes, anything else, no [22:22] Styx, yes [22:22] andrew__: ok - so the problem is the menu.lst config for the other OS's [22:22] that's weird, it shouldnt look at that... [22:23] where can i find the ktorrent plasmoid source? [22:23] in the repo [22:23] with the source for all the other packages [22:23] shadeslayer: if there is a package for it - there is a source package [22:23] ikonia: ok..but i need the tarball of it to be specific so that i can do plasmapkg -i [22:24] shadeslayer, check out 'plasma-widget-ktorrent' [22:24] shadeslayer: then look on the website [22:24] ign0ramus: um...i have that installed..i need it on kde-nightly [22:24] ikonia: whose website? [22:24] shadeslayer: then you are not supported here [22:24] shadeslayer: as you well know [22:24] ikonia: i just need the source... [22:24] shadeslayer: then you are not supported here [22:24] im not asking for kde-nightly support [22:24] shadeslayer: then you are not supported here [22:25] shadeslayer, check here: http://ktorrent.org/?q=downloads [22:25] ign0ramus: nope [22:25] shadeslayer: stop asking pleaqse [22:25] please [22:25] ikonia: im just asking for the tarball...whats the harm> [22:25] shadeslayer, if the widget is not part of the tarball, i don't know what else to say [22:26] *? [22:26] shadeslayer: because it's not supported [22:26] shadeslayer: stop asking please [22:26] ikonia: if you say so [22:28] http://paste.ubuntu.com:80/201715/ - my menu.lst [22:30] andrew__: for some reason that pastebin is timing out [22:33] Okay, try http://pastebin.com/m349d24b2 [22:33] does anyone have cairo dock? [22:34] andrew__: you have modified that file [22:34] so? the original was useless for anything else [22:35] if it worked I wouldn't have tried to fix it! [22:35] andrew__: well you've modified it using "sd" grub knowns nothing about that, it only uses hd [22:35] okay, we'll try that then. [22:36] hd0,0 and hdb1,6 [22:37] you don't need to re-do "setup" [22:37] just change the menu.lst [22:38] I know. LFS taught me a few things. [22:38] then why are you saying hd0,0 ? [22:38] for Windows, sd0 === solid_liqAFK is now known as solid_liq === solid_liq is now known as solid_liqAFK [22:38] no [22:39] sd0 means nothing to grub [22:39] I'll try hd0 [22:39] what are you on about [22:39] hd0 is the boot sector on your disk [22:40] what should I try for my sda1? hd0 or hd0,0? [22:40] depends on your device.map file, but hd0,0 is the norm [22:40] ok [22:40] back in 5 [22:41] got a little problem with Ark - it doesn't extract RAR files [22:41] can anybody help me? [22:41] jean_pierre_cz: have you installed the rar/unrar packages ? [22:42] yes [22:42] but I think that it is due to the upgrade to KDE 4.2.90 [22:42] I can unrar in CLI [22:42] so sounds like ark isn't linked into the rar libs [22:43] yeah, there is a problem with PATH [22:43] i got also a warning notification concerning this [22:43] but I don't know how to solve it [22:44] maybe the solution is just wait for KDE 4.3 === alberto is now known as Guest95161 [22:44] Hola, alguien me puede ayudar y darme un link para ingresar a la comunidad en español? [22:44] can you use dd to copy a specific number of bytes? [22:44] !es | Guest95161 [22:44] Guest95161: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es. [22:45] thanks!!! [22:45] Guest95161, de nada :) [22:45] anyway... [22:46] is there any way i can copy 448 raw bytes from one disk to another using dd? === andrew__ is now known as buzan [22:48] Styx993, not sure, but i'd imagine it'd be something like "dd if= of= bs= ..." [22:48] hmm [22:48] tried that, but it copied 6.7mb [22:48] and destroyed the fs, so now i need to re-copy it [22:48] Styx993, you specified a value for 'bs' ? [22:49] yes [22:49] i specified 448 [22:49] Styx993, also, there are restrictions on the number of bytes you can specify [22:49] ? [22:50] Styx993, i believe 512 is the smallest value you can specify [22:50] crap [22:51] Styx993, yeah... see here: http://www.linuxquestions.org/questions/linux-newbie-8/learn-the-dd-command-362506/#post1848006 [22:51] What do I need to install to get pico? [22:52] JuJuBee, not that it answers your question, but what's wrong with nano? [22:52] Ive used it for so long, my fingers know how to type it [22:52] its automatic... [22:52] and nothing wrong with nano... [22:52] more curious as to why it is gone? [22:53] JuJuBee, don't know, but a quick apt-cache search reveals only nano and nano-tiny (?) [22:55] aha [22:55] Yea, I already looked. Funny, last fresh install I had it now it is gone. [22:55] i had to set the count [22:56] nano essentially supersedes pico [22:56] JuJuBee, i never really used pico... are the shortcuts that much different/ [22:56] If it's just a matter of habit of typing "pico" you can just symlink /usr/bin/nano to /usr/bin/pico [22:56] no [22:57] argh [22:57] im gonna go, my usb is too slow for this [22:57] cya [23:02] http://pastebin.com/m55cfcdab for the last menu.lst (last section given) [23:05] savedefault and makeactive look unusual to me [23:05] maybe the root on lfs should be sdb7... [23:07] remming out savedefault and makeactive for Windows and changing to root=/dev/sda7 for linux boot [23:07] report errors shortly! [23:08] (make that sdb7!) [23:13] exactly the same errors! Kubuntu can only boot itself! === orlando is now known as mefizto [23:32] ok I am using kubuntu 8.10 and I am trying to install yahoo instant messenger. when I try to use the deb package installer it says libglib1.2 not satisfiable. I tried to re install the dependency and the same thing. is there anyone that can help me with this? [23:36] man amazon.com is just killing my konqueror [23:38] ok I am using kubuntu 8.10 and I am trying to install yahoo instant messenger. when I try to use the deb package installer it says libglib1.2 not satisfiable. I tried to re install the dependency and the same thing. is there anyone that can help me with this? === jason__ is now known as Cooltiger [23:43] Does anyone have problems with pidgin and yahoo msg. accounts? [23:43] no [23:43] the problem also exists with Kopete apperently [23:43] yeah it dosent work [23:44] it was working about a day ago [23:44] my yahoo messanger works fine [23:44] I am trying to install yahoo instant messenger for linux right now [23:44] I know I am having the same problom [23:45] you will have the same problom with all instant messenger programs [23:45] lemme switch to kubuntu [23:45] maybe i am wrong [23:45] brb [23:45] I am trying to get this issue resolved right now and no one seems to be helping [23:46] I have fixed it before by a full reinstall of ubuntu but that is not as fun as it sounds === jason__ is now known as cooltiger [23:50] ok maybe i was wrong [23:51] thaks a whole hell of alot for sending me in ubuntu-chat all of you people can go to hell [23:51] you people? [23:51] ? [23:51] ook. [23:52] i just booted into kubuntu to help him out [23:52] heh [23:52] * LadyNikon shrugs [23:52] you'd think he would yell at yahoo instead [23:53] funny i guess i never set it up on this side