[00:00] <coz_> hey guys..this happened early on with jaunty ... I am getting high cpusage with /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7
[00:00] <coz_> is there a way to reset or kill this ?
[00:00] <BUGabundo> that again??
[00:01] <coz_> lol
[00:01] <BUGabundo> its X
[00:01] <coz_> oh
[00:01] <BUGabundo> if you kill you know what happends
[00:01] <coz_> yeah
[00:01] <coz_> any mmm  it is surely slowing the system down
[00:02] <coz_> it hasnt gone much above 15% useage this time as opposed to the %70  on jaunty when it happened :)
[00:02] <coz_> ok just thought I would say that :)  I am sure its been reported already
[00:03] <sahak> RAOF, I get the following message: [    0.000000] Unknown boot option `i915.modeset=1': ignoring
[00:03] <sahak> and no KMS
[00:03] <sahak> i am running fully up to date Ubuntu 9.10
[00:03] <RAOF> sahak: And an intel card?
[00:03] <sahak> yes
[00:03] <RAOF> Yeah, it'll say that, and then work in my experience.
[00:04] <sahak> RAOF, oh it does work actually :)
[00:04] <sahak> I didn't check if it works :)
[00:04] <RAOF> Heh.
[00:59] <BUGabundo> Daviey: ping
[00:59] <BUGabundo> Daviey: found your crazy PPA for PPA keys!
[00:59] <BUGabundo> why did you make it ?
[01:00] <Daviey> BUGabundo: Hey
[01:00] <Daviey> BUGabundo: Thought it would be a good idea
[01:01] <BUGabundo> lol
[01:01] <BUGabundo> you kill LP each time you upload all those 2k packages
[01:01] <BUGabundo> and it gets you 100k karma points
[01:01] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[01:01] <BUGabundo> but what lead you to do it?
[01:02] <BUGabundo> its so easy to add a key
[01:02] <BUGabundo> alias addkey='sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com'
[01:04] <YDdraigGoch> software sources fetching the key automatically would be the ideal solution =)
[01:05] <Daviey> BUGabundo: then don't use it.. and i don't upload "all" of them in one stint
[01:05] <BUGabundo> YDdraigGoch: how safe would that be?
[01:05] <Daviey> BUGabundo: There is also no need for the packages to be rebuilt per release
[01:05] <BUGabundo> Daviey: I'm just trying to find your motivation for it
[01:05] <YDdraigGoch> BUGabundo, just as safe as having to adding it manually? When you add a key, it pops up asking the question if you'd like to authenticate the package, and you say yes or no.
[01:05] <YDdraigGoch> add a ppa*
[01:06] <YDdraigGoch> s/package/ppa/
[01:06] <YDdraigGoch> bah..tired, can't type straight =)
[01:06] <BUGabundo> me neither
[01:06] <BUGabundo> 1am here
[01:06] <BUGabundo> get up at 7am
[01:06] <YDdraigGoch> oooo i'm lazy, don't work. Don't have to get up in the mornings =P
[01:07] <Daviey> BUGabundo: If you don't like it, don't use it  :)
[01:07] <YDdraigGoch> Next upload of software-sources should let you paste a key directly though, rather than saving it to a file and then adding it. So that's an improvment at least :)
[01:07] <YDdraigGoch> (i think i read that somewhere....)
[01:08] <Daviey> YDdraigGoch: apt-key can accept stdin
[01:09] <Daviey> BUGabundo: The PPA is also not just keys.. it also adds the PPA
[01:09] <YDdraigGoch> Daviey, I'm all for using a GUI instead of the terminal.
[01:09] <DanaG> hah, eduke32 just segfaults for me.
[01:09] <BUGabundo> Daviey: funny question how do you had the key for that PPA ?
[01:10] <Daviey> apt-key
[01:10] <Daviey> BUGabundo: Funny how you call it crazy, and not bothered to look at the source :)
[01:10] <BUGabundo> Daviey: I don't do code. I don't look at source!
[01:10] <BUGabundo> don't take me bad... I just found it funny enouth to talk to you about it
[01:11] <BUGabundo> and try to understand the reason behind it
[01:11] <Daviey> There is a blog post in the works.. but not published yet
[01:11] <BUGabundo> since its not clear to me, even after we talked
[01:11] <BUGabundo> ok ok
[01:11] <BUGabundo> ping me then
[01:12] <Daviey> BUGabundo: I carefully throttled the queue to avoid performance impact on the build daemons during initial upload
[01:12] <BUGabundo> np
[01:12] <BUGabundo> read some say when you did the last batch, it was worse then the LangPacks
[01:12] <BUGabundo> LOLOL
[01:12] <BUGabundo> nvm
[01:12] <BUGabundo> thanks for the time
[01:13] <Daviey> BUGabundo: where was this said?
[01:13] <BUGabundo> eheh
[01:13] <BUGabundo> its a secret
[01:14] <Daviey> ?
[01:14] <BUGabundo> nvm
[01:26]  * BUGabundo alt+sysrq+SLEEP
[03:52] <mbeichorn> hi I am having some power management problems in karmic alpha 2, powertop is reporting c0 60% of the time and 400+ wakeups-per-second anyone come across this?
[04:15] <Sarvatt> mbeichorn: are the wakeups in your touchpad? because i get ~500 wakeups a second during touchpad use on any kernel :D
[04:53] <koshari> anyone tried grub2?
[04:56] <ghindo> koshari, Sure have.
[04:56] <koshari> any gotchas to be aware of?
[04:59] <billybigrigger> depends
[04:59] <billybigrigger> are you dual booting?
[05:00] <billybigrigger> and you might be affected by a bug in grub that affects some when upgrading, but its a pretty easy fix
[05:02] <ghindo> koshari, It's worked fine for me.  Check the wiki:  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing
[05:03] <koshari> i beleive the nruve numbering system dont need the devices.list anymore, is that true?
[05:03] <billybigrigger> device.map
[05:03] <billybigrigger> is that what you mean?
[05:17] <koshari> on grub >1 sd devices need to be mapped to hd deviced in the sources.list file,
[05:18] <koshari> sorry, devices.map file
[05:18] <koshari> /boot/grub/device.map
[08:41]  * VK7HSE Just about to attempt (2nd time!) an install of karmic Alpha2 on my Eee... (standard desktop)
[08:43] <dupondje> not working ?
[09:47] <karmictest2> hi there
[09:48] <karmictest2> running an test as you can see
[09:48] <karmictest2> is this the right channel for karmic ?
[09:48] <karmictest2> :)
[09:49] <karmictest2> rc 2 is trying to mount the old floppy drive constantly, is this an known bug?
[09:49] <arand> Indeed
[09:50] <karmictest2> i had to put in an floppy disk, wich i had a hard time to find, to ease the constant mounting of the floppy drive, wich was empty...
[09:51] <arand> btw, the "indeed" was meant for this being the right chat and not for the bug, I don't know about that one, been a couple of years since I saw a floppy....
[09:51] <karmictest2> alpha is not nice for a floppy drive
[09:51] <karmictest2> its trying to kill it.... :P
[09:52] <karmictest2> installer went smooth, and the rest is ok for so far...
[09:52] <arand> Maybe the "kills your kittens" notice shouldn't have been stripped from the wiki just yet ;)
[09:53] <karmictest2> hehe
[09:55] <karmictest2> hmm found the bug
[09:55] <karmictest2> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/384469
[09:55] <karmictest2> constant polling...will be fixed, so i am at rest..
[09:55] <karmictest2> :
[09:55] <karmictest2> :)
[09:58] <MonTree> is there a xbox-ubuntu channel?
[09:58] <SwedeMike> you mean xbmc?
[09:59] <SwedeMike> it's called #xbmc-linux
[10:01] <MonTree> Wellark,
[10:01] <MonTree> SwedeMike, ok let me check it out
[10:02] <MonTree> SwedeMike, i mean for x360
[10:59] <kujiu> hi
[13:26] <EagleSn> Why Totem is now capable to auto-scan DVB channels on Karmic? Missing plugin?
[13:26] <EagleSn> * is NOT capable
[13:26] <EagleSn> totem doesm't able to scan channels
[13:27] <Pici> If it was able to do that in previous releases, its probably a bug.
[14:01] <EagleSn> Totem hangs at playing dvb
[14:16] <tgpraveen> does karmic have the new volume control
[14:16] <tgpraveen> ?
[14:16] <tgpraveen> the one with per-app volume setting,etc
[14:21] <dupondje> u can install it
[14:21] <dupondje> gnome-volume-control-pulse
[14:22] <tgpraveen> yeah but was wondering why they have not made the change
[14:23] <tgpraveen> many changes are planned for karmic from jaunty but till now karmic is looking
[14:23] <tgpraveen> just like jaunty
[14:23] <tgpraveen> very few changes implemented tilll now
[14:23] <tgpraveen> it seems it will take till alpha 4 to notice a difference
[14:46] <BluesKaj> Hiyas all
[15:02] <mbeichorn> my 9.10A2 is killing my battery, with nothing open the computer idles at 60% cpu usage, and powertop reports "45.9% (551.1) <kernel IPI> : Rescheduling interrupts", what is a good way to fix this
[15:03] <dupondje> what proces uses the that much cpu ?
[15:03] <mbeichorn> thats just in system monitor doesnt show anythig
[15:04] <mbeichorn> maybe 20% is visible in processes
[15:13] <SAMER> HELLO
[15:13] <SAMER> HOW ALL
[15:13] <SAMER> PLS SOME HELP ABOUT UBUNTU SYSTEM
[15:14] <Pici> SAMER: Firstly, can you lose the caps? Secondly, are you running 9.10 (Karmic)? This channel is only for support of this pre-release, all other Ubuntu support should be in #ubuntu
[15:14] <arand> SAMER: kill the caps, are you running Karmic
[15:15] <SAMER> i runing ubuntu 9 and hope to find some one help me to know how i use i still runing it new and need some one help to get out microsoft system
[15:15] <SAMER> indeed i  so dont know where is iam
[15:15] <SAMER> pls guide me to go where is my friend use ubuntu 9
[15:16] <tgpraveen> SAMER: as you seem to have trouble with english mayy=be you should try your county's ubuntu channel?
[15:17] <SAMER> yes pls but how i go there where is the channel
[15:17] <SAMER> i use irc new so sorry for trouble
[15:17] <Pici> SAMER: What is your native language?
[15:17] <SAMER> arabic
[15:18] <Pici> !sa
[15:18] <SAMER> i know eng. but i cant write correct
[15:19] <SAMER> but sorry i dont know how i can go to this channel
[15:19] <dupondje> mbeichorn: do ps aux
[15:19] <arand> type /join #channelname
[15:20] <SAMER> where i type it
[15:22] <SAMER> i did no one arw there
[15:22] <mbeichorn> dupondje: nice trick, but it only reports 30% activity, mostly to X and the terminal window
[15:22] <arand> you just type it here.
[15:22] <mbeichorn> system monitor still shows 60 usage
[15:23] <anachronik_> SAMER, hey don't forget to exchange #channelname with #nameofthechannel ;)
[15:23] <mbeichorn> and my 5hrs bat life is now 1
[15:24] <SAMER> yes thank you but where i have to write it
[15:24] <SAMER> i from the morning follow website guide till i arrived here
[15:24] <arand> SAMER: just directly into the chat.
[15:25] <anachronik_> NO, don't do it, SAMER
[15:25] <tgpraveen> SAMER: the text box where you are typing this msgs
[15:25] <anachronik_> it's dangerous
[15:25] <anachronik_> NEVER type anything *directly* into the chat
[15:25] <anachronik_> it can explode
[15:25] <SAMER> sorry
[15:25] <anachronik_> it's okay
[15:25] <arand> anachronik_: pu-lease...
[15:30] <Pici> anachronik_: stop
[15:35] <arand> How can I check which packages are installed *by default* in different versions of ubuntu? (specifically looking at cups-driver-gutenprint package in jaunty & karmic)
[15:40] <Hobbsee> arand: check the manifests @ cdimage.ubuntu.com
[15:40] <arand> Hobbsee: will do
[15:40] <SAMER> i have to say thank you for all helpd me here i arrived my chnnael
[15:44] <arand> Hobbsee: um, ok, that show wether or not the package is on the cd, but does that also imply that it is always installed by default?
[15:44] <Hobbsee> oh, true
[15:45]  * Hobbsee doesn't recall, at this time of night, short of tracing down the ubuntu-desktop dependency tree
[15:49] <arand> Oh, that actually did it, strangely enough, cups-driver-gutenprint _is_ a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, but it was not installed...
[16:32] <hexa--> !stacktrace
[16:32] <hexa--> !debugging
[17:31] <SAMER> HELLO ALL
[17:32] <SAMER> PLS I HAVE ONE QUESTION I TRY TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET VIA BLUETOOTH CONNECTION WITH UBUNTU 9 ANY ONE CAN HELP PLS
[17:33] <hggdh> SAMER, (1) please do not use caps; (2) this channel deals with Ubuntu +1 (Karmic Koala 9.10, the next Ubuntu version); (3) we do not deal with Jaunty (9.04); (4) if you are running 9.04, please go to #ubuntu for support
[17:34] <SAMER> ok thanks
[17:37]  * genii makes more coffee
[17:45] <EagleSn> hi, grub2 cannot detect my Windows Vista installation, can I add my Windows OS to grub 2?
[17:47] <tgpraveen1> EagleSn: known problem
[17:47] <tgpraveen1> you should read the known problems section in th release pafge
[17:47] <EagleSn> I read about it before
[17:49] <EagleSn> I supose there must be a manual fix
[18:14] <billybigrigger> anyone have any luck with sound in flash yet?
[20:43] <ripps> update-manager is asking me to do a partial upgrade, should I do it?
[20:46] <tgpraveen1> ripps: if it is not removing anything
[20:46] <tgpraveen1> then maybe  it won't be that bad
[20:47] <Pici> I always use apt-get to upgrade, that way I can see all at once what its planning to do
[20:48] <ripps> Pici tgpraveen1: it's trying to remove mono-2.0-runtime, mono-common, and mono-jit
[20:48] <tgpraveen1> ripps:  that will probably break apps like
[20:49] <tgpraveen1> fspot,banshee,tomboy etc
[20:49] <tgpraveen1> not sure
[20:49] <tgpraveen1> best to not do
[20:49] <creative1412_> guys i have \reported this bug
[20:49] <creative1412_> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/390414
[20:49] <creative1412_> any ohas?
[20:49] <Pici> ripps: Looks like its installing other mono packages in their place.
[20:50] <ripps> are those packages unnecessary now?
[20:50] <Pici> ripps: I have mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime listed in place of the others that its removing.
[20:51] <ripps> Pici: I'll upgrade then, if anything goes wrong, I'll blame you :P
[20:52] <Pici> ripps: okay. er. I think.
[20:52] <ripps> :)
[21:25] <ripps> grub-pc is asking me which drives to install grub on. I have Ubuntu on sda and Windows on sdb, do I select both of them or just sda
[21:28] <billybigrigger> sda\
[22:20] <mrwes> I don't see where I can add an IRC account in the new IM app Empathy
[22:22] <kklimonda> you need telepathy-idle package
[22:22] <BUGabundo> heyyyyy kklimonda
[22:22] <kklimonda> you were just waiting for me to show up :P
[22:23] <kklimonda> hey BUGabundo, how was your day? was the weather as bad in portugal as it was here?
[22:23] <mrwes> WTF....IRC support is not built in?
[22:23] <mrwes> er
[22:23] <kklimonda> mrwes: all protocols are handled by one library or another
[22:24] <mrwes> yah?
[22:24] <BUGabundo> kklimonda: clouded and colder
[22:24] <BUGabundo> hey lemonade. nice to see you here!
[22:24] <BUGabundo> hey DanaG
[22:24] <mrwes> do they plan to change that, so IRC is included?
[22:25] <kklimonda> mrwes: I don't know, probably yes
[22:25] <mrwes> I mean it asks me to import my accounts for Pidgin -- nice. However, it's kind of silly the IRC account doesn't show up until I installed the telepathy package
[22:27] <DanaG> I'll only consider using Empathy if they make the logs work with pidgin.
[22:27] <DanaG> Or have a plugin to do so.
[22:27] <DanaG> Or have a Windows version of Empathy.
[22:27] <DanaG> I don't want to be missing conversation history in one OS.
[22:28] <RichardWolfVI> hello
[22:28] <RichardWolfVI> I'd like to know how to remove the top panel
[22:29] <kklimonda> RichardWolfVI: the same way you remove the bottom one.
[22:29] <DanaG> right-click it.
[22:29] <RichardWolfVI> kklimonda: Itrhe option is grayed out
[22:30] <kklimonda> RichardWolfVI: unless it's the last panel standing, then you have to disable starting gnome-panel on login
[22:30] <RichardWolfVI> how do I do that?
[22:30] <RichardWolfVI> Ii'm planning to replace gnome panel with awn
[22:30] <RichardWolfVI> *I'm
[22:31] <BUGabundo> RichardWolfVI: gnome-do with Docky skin is WAYYY better then AWM
[22:31] <BUGabundo> trust me
[22:31] <RichardWolfVI> OK
[22:31] <kklimonda> RichardWolfVI: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1132157.html
[22:32] <kklimonda> RichardWolfVI: the post with "required_component_list" not the one where a guy suggests to set X and Y to some huge values
[22:33] <dupondje> pfft, pulseaudio still fucked up :(
[22:33] <thekorn_> ohh, telepathy needs an extra package for irc? thats weird
[22:33] <dupondje> still no sound on audacious when flash playing
[22:33] <BUGabundo> dupondje: I lost all audio
[22:34] <dupondje> and other way around :(
[22:34] <BUGabundo> after todays updates
[22:34] <kklimonda> dupondje: language..
[22:34] <dupondje> BUGabundo: thats even worse :s
[22:34] <BUGabundo> !language ! dupondje
[22:34] <BUGabundo> !language | dupondje
[22:34] <dupondje> :)
[22:34] <BUGabundo> got to go
[22:34] <BUGabundo> bbl, I think
[22:34] <RichardWolfVI> BUGabundo: ALSA here, I have audio :D
[22:34] <BUGabundo> lolol
[22:34] <kklimonda> thekorn_: telepathy need a package for every protocol. the one for irc just isn't a dependency of empathy (i think it's in suggests field)
[22:35] <thekorn_> kklimonda, ok, and what is the use of telepathy-haze then?
[22:35] <thekorn_> libpurple speaks irc
[22:36] <kklimonda> thekorn_: probably -haze isn't finished
[22:36] <RichardWolfVI> BUGabundo: I'd like gocky not to take my screen scpace
[22:36] <BUGabundo> RichardWolfVI: it can hide
[22:37] <RichardWolfVI> BUGabundo: How?
[22:37] <BUGabundo> there's an option on it
[22:37] <thekorn_> kklimonda, right, maybe that's the case,
[22:37] <BUGabundo> but now I have to go
[22:37] <dupondje> i'm fixxing file-roller atm
[22:37] <BUGabundo> bye
[22:37] <dupondje> its a hell :(