[00:00] hey guys..this happened early on with jaunty ... I am getting high cpusage with /usr/X11R6/bin/X :0 -br -audit 0 -auth /var/lib/gdm/:0.Xauth -nolisten tcp vt7 [00:00] is there a way to reset or kill this ? [00:00] that again?? [00:01] lol [00:01] its X [00:01] oh [00:01] if you kill you know what happends [00:01] yeah [00:01] any mmm it is surely slowing the system down [00:02] it hasnt gone much above 15% useage this time as opposed to the %70 on jaunty when it happened :) [00:02] ok just thought I would say that :) I am sure its been reported already [00:03] RAOF, I get the following message: [ 0.000000] Unknown boot option `i915.modeset=1': ignoring [00:03] and no KMS [00:03] i am running fully up to date Ubuntu 9.10 [00:03] sahak: And an intel card? [00:03] yes [00:03] Yeah, it'll say that, and then work in my experience. [00:04] RAOF, oh it does work actually :) [00:04] I didn't check if it works :) [00:04] Heh. === lifi is now known as bdl [00:59] Daviey: ping [00:59] Daviey: found your crazy PPA for PPA keys! [00:59] why did you make it ? [01:00] BUGabundo: Hey [01:00] BUGabundo: Thought it would be a good idea [01:01] lol [01:01] you kill LP each time you upload all those 2k packages [01:01] and it gets you 100k karma points [01:01] LOLOL [01:01] but what lead you to do it? [01:02] its so easy to add a key [01:02] alias addkey='sudo apt-key adv --recv-keys --keyserver keyserver.ubuntu.com' [01:04] software sources fetching the key automatically would be the ideal solution =) [01:05] BUGabundo: then don't use it.. and i don't upload "all" of them in one stint [01:05] YDdraigGoch: how safe would that be? [01:05] BUGabundo: There is also no need for the packages to be rebuilt per release [01:05] Daviey: I'm just trying to find your motivation for it [01:05] BUGabundo, just as safe as having to adding it manually? When you add a key, it pops up asking the question if you'd like to authenticate the package, and you say yes or no. [01:05] add a ppa* [01:06] s/package/ppa/ [01:06] bah..tired, can't type straight =) [01:06] me neither [01:06] 1am here [01:06] get up at 7am [01:06] oooo i'm lazy, don't work. Don't have to get up in the mornings =P [01:07] BUGabundo: If you don't like it, don't use it :) [01:07] Next upload of software-sources should let you paste a key directly though, rather than saving it to a file and then adding it. So that's an improvment at least :) [01:07] (i think i read that somewhere....) [01:08] YDdraigGoch: apt-key can accept stdin [01:09] BUGabundo: The PPA is also not just keys.. it also adds the PPA [01:09] Daviey, I'm all for using a GUI instead of the terminal. [01:09] hah, eduke32 just segfaults for me. [01:09] Daviey: funny question how do you had the key for that PPA ? [01:10] apt-key [01:10] BUGabundo: Funny how you call it crazy, and not bothered to look at the source :) [01:10] Daviey: I don't do code. I don't look at source! [01:10] don't take me bad... I just found it funny enouth to talk to you about it [01:11] and try to understand the reason behind it [01:11] There is a blog post in the works.. but not published yet [01:11] since its not clear to me, even after we talked [01:11] ok ok [01:11] ping me then [01:12] BUGabundo: I carefully throttled the queue to avoid performance impact on the build daemons during initial upload [01:12] np [01:12] read some say when you did the last batch, it was worse then the LangPacks [01:12] LOLOL [01:12] nvm [01:12] thanks for the time [01:13] BUGabundo: where was this said? [01:13] eheh [01:13] its a secret [01:14] ? [01:14] nvm [01:26] * BUGabundo alt+sysrq+SLEEP === elpargo_ is now known as elpargo [03:52] hi I am having some power management problems in karmic alpha 2, powertop is reporting c0 60% of the time and 400+ wakeups-per-second anyone come across this? [04:15] mbeichorn: are the wakeups in your touchpad? because i get ~500 wakeups a second during touchpad use on any kernel :D [04:53] anyone tried grub2? === |sparr| is now known as sparr [04:56] koshari, Sure have. [04:56] any gotchas to be aware of? [04:59] depends [04:59] are you dual booting? [05:00] and you might be affected by a bug in grub that affects some when upgrading, but its a pretty easy fix [05:02] koshari, It's worked fine for me. Check the wiki: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KernelTeam/Grub2Testing [05:03] i beleive the nruve numbering system dont need the devices.list anymore, is that true? [05:03] device.map [05:03] is that what you mean? [05:17] on grub >1 sd devices need to be mapped to hd deviced in the sources.list file, [05:18] sorry, devices.map file [05:18] /boot/grub/device.map === TheFuzzball is now known as element [08:41] * VK7HSE Just about to attempt (2nd time!) an install of karmic Alpha2 on my Eee... (standard desktop) [08:43] not working ? [09:47] hi there [09:48] running an test as you can see [09:48] is this the right channel for karmic ? [09:48] :) [09:49] rc 2 is trying to mount the old floppy drive constantly, is this an known bug? [09:49] Indeed [09:50] i had to put in an floppy disk, wich i had a hard time to find, to ease the constant mounting of the floppy drive, wich was empty... [09:51] btw, the "indeed" was meant for this being the right chat and not for the bug, I don't know about that one, been a couple of years since I saw a floppy.... [09:51] alpha is not nice for a floppy drive [09:51] its trying to kill it.... :P [09:52] installer went smooth, and the rest is ok for so far... [09:52] Maybe the "kills your kittens" notice shouldn't have been stripped from the wiki just yet ;) [09:53] hehe [09:55] hmm found the bug [09:55] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/devicekit-disks/+bug/384469 [09:55] Launchpad bug 384469 in devicekit-disks "constantly polls floppy drive" [Medium,Fix committed] [09:55] constant polling...will be fixed, so i am at rest.. [09:55] : [09:55] :) [09:58] is there a xbox-ubuntu channel? [09:58] you mean xbmc? [09:59] it's called #xbmc-linux [10:01] Wellark, [10:01] SwedeMike, ok let me check it out [10:02] SwedeMike, i mean for x360 === AndrewGe1 is now known as AndrewGee [10:59] hi === TheFuzzball is now known as GarethAdams === GarethAdams is now known as GarethAdans === GarethAdans is now known as Gare7hAdams === Gare7hAdams is now known as TheFuzzball [13:26] Why Totem is now capable to auto-scan DVB channels on Karmic? Missing plugin? [13:26] * is NOT capable [13:26] totem doesm't able to scan channels [13:27] If it was able to do that in previous releases, its probably a bug. === repete is now known as rep-eat [14:01] Totem hangs at playing dvb === Protector1981 is now known as Prote|afk [14:16] does karmic have the new volume control [14:16] ? [14:16] the one with per-app volume setting,etc [14:21] u can install it [14:21] gnome-volume-control-pulse [14:22] yeah but was wondering why they have not made the change [14:23] many changes are planned for karmic from jaunty but till now karmic is looking [14:23] just like jaunty [14:23] very few changes implemented tilll now [14:23] it seems it will take till alpha 4 to notice a difference [14:46] Hiyas all [15:02] my 9.10A2 is killing my battery, with nothing open the computer idles at 60% cpu usage, and powertop reports "45.9% (551.1) : Rescheduling interrupts", what is a good way to fix this [15:03] what proces uses the that much cpu ? [15:03] thats just in system monitor doesnt show anythig [15:04] maybe 20% is visible in processes === Prote|afk is now known as Protector1981 [15:13] HELLO [15:13] HOW ALL [15:13] PLS SOME HELP ABOUT UBUNTU SYSTEM [15:14] SAMER: Firstly, can you lose the caps? Secondly, are you running 9.10 (Karmic)? This channel is only for support of this pre-release, all other Ubuntu support should be in #ubuntu [15:14] SAMER: kill the caps, are you running Karmic [15:15] i runing ubuntu 9 and hope to find some one help me to know how i use i still runing it new and need some one help to get out microsoft system [15:15] indeed i so dont know where is iam [15:15] pls guide me to go where is my friend use ubuntu 9 [15:16] SAMER: as you seem to have trouble with english mayy=be you should try your county's ubuntu channel? [15:17] yes pls but how i go there where is the channel [15:17] i use irc new so sorry for trouble [15:17] SAMER: What is your native language? [15:17] arabic [15:18] !sa [15:18] For the Saudi Arabia team : /join #ubuntu-sa : للانظمام الى قناة الفريق السعودي - For Arabic language support, please : /join #ubuntu-arabic : للحصول على الدعم باللغة العربية [15:18] i know eng. but i cant write correct [15:19] but sorry i dont know how i can go to this channel [15:19] mbeichorn: do ps aux [15:19] type /join #channelname [15:20] where i type it [15:22] i did no one arw there [15:22] dupondje: nice trick, but it only reports 30% activity, mostly to X and the terminal window [15:22] you just type it here. [15:22] system monitor still shows 60 usage [15:23] SAMER, hey don't forget to exchange #channelname with #nameofthechannel ;) [15:23] and my 5hrs bat life is now 1 [15:24] yes thank you but where i have to write it [15:24] i from the morning follow website guide till i arrived here [15:24] SAMER: just directly into the chat. [15:25] NO, don't do it, SAMER [15:25] SAMER: the text box where you are typing this msgs [15:25] it's dangerous [15:25] NEVER type anything *directly* into the chat [15:25] it can explode [15:25] sorry [15:25] it's okay [15:25] anachronik_: pu-lease... [15:30] anachronik_: stop [15:35] How can I check which packages are installed *by default* in different versions of ubuntu? (specifically looking at cups-driver-gutenprint package in jaunty & karmic) [15:40] arand: check the manifests @ cdimage.ubuntu.com [15:40] Hobbsee: will do [15:40] i have to say thank you for all helpd me here i arrived my chnnael [15:44] Hobbsee: um, ok, that show wether or not the package is on the cd, but does that also imply that it is always installed by default? [15:44] oh, true [15:45] * Hobbsee doesn't recall, at this time of night, short of tracing down the ubuntu-desktop dependency tree [15:49] Oh, that actually did it, strangely enough, cups-driver-gutenprint _is_ a dependency of ubuntu-desktop, but it was not installed... === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [16:32] !stacktrace [16:32] Sorry, I don't know anything about stacktrace [16:32] !debugging [16:32] For help debugging your program, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingProcedures === kklimonda_ is now known as kklimonda [17:31] HELLO ALL [17:32] PLS I HAVE ONE QUESTION I TRY TO CONNECT TO THE INTERNET VIA BLUETOOTH CONNECTION WITH UBUNTU 9 ANY ONE CAN HELP PLS [17:33] SAMER, (1) please do not use caps; (2) this channel deals with Ubuntu +1 (Karmic Koala 9.10, the next Ubuntu version); (3) we do not deal with Jaunty (9.04); (4) if you are running 9.04, please go to #ubuntu for support [17:34] ok thanks [17:37] * genii makes more coffee [17:45] hi, grub2 cannot detect my Windows Vista installation, can I add my Windows OS to grub 2? [17:47] EagleSn: known problem [17:47] you should read the known problems section in th release pafge [17:47] I read about it before [17:49] I supose there must be a manual fix === yofel_ is now known as yofel === nielsslot_ is now known as nielsslot [18:14] anyone have any luck with sound in flash yet? === DanaG1 is now known as DanaG [20:43] update-manager is asking me to do a partial upgrade, should I do it? [20:46] ripps: if it is not removing anything [20:46] then maybe it won't be that bad [20:47] I always use apt-get to upgrade, that way I can see all at once what its planning to do [20:48] Pici tgpraveen1: it's trying to remove mono-2.0-runtime, mono-common, and mono-jit [20:48] ripps: that will probably break apps like [20:49] fspot,banshee,tomboy etc [20:49] not sure [20:49] best to not do [20:49] guys i have \reported this bug [20:49] https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gdebi/+bug/390414 [20:49] Ubuntu bug 390414 in gdebi "When i want to install ANY deb file with double click it refuse " [Undecided,Confirmed] [20:49] any ohas? [20:49] ripps: Looks like its installing other mono packages in their place. [20:50] are those packages unnecessary now? [20:50] ripps: I have mono-2.0-gac mono-gac mono-runtime listed in place of the others that its removing. [20:51] Pici: I'll upgrade then, if anything goes wrong, I'll blame you :P [20:52] ripps: okay. er. I think. [20:52] :) === WelshDragon is now known as YDdraigGoch [21:25] grub-pc is asking me which drives to install grub on. I have Ubuntu on sda and Windows on sdb, do I select both of them or just sda [21:28] sda\ [22:20] I don't see where I can add an IRC account in the new IM app Empathy [22:22] you need telepathy-idle package [22:22] heyyyyy kklimonda [22:22] you were just waiting for me to show up :P [22:23] hey BUGabundo, how was your day? was the weather as bad in portugal as it was here? [22:23] WTF....IRC support is not built in? [22:23] er [22:23] mrwes: all protocols are handled by one library or another [22:24] yah? [22:24] kklimonda: clouded and colder [22:24] hey lemonade. nice to see you here! [22:24] hey DanaG [22:24] do they plan to change that, so IRC is included? [22:25] mrwes: I don't know, probably yes [22:25] I mean it asks me to import my accounts for Pidgin -- nice. However, it's kind of silly the IRC account doesn't show up until I installed the telepathy package [22:27] I'll only consider using Empathy if they make the logs work with pidgin. [22:27] Or have a plugin to do so. [22:27] Or have a Windows version of Empathy. [22:27] I don't want to be missing conversation history in one OS. [22:28] hello [22:28] I'd like to know how to remove the top panel [22:29] RichardWolfVI: the same way you remove the bottom one. [22:29] right-click it. [22:29] kklimonda: Itrhe option is grayed out [22:30] RichardWolfVI: unless it's the last panel standing, then you have to disable starting gnome-panel on login [22:30] how do I do that? [22:30] Ii'm planning to replace gnome panel with awn [22:30] *I'm [22:31] RichardWolfVI: gnome-do with Docky skin is WAYYY better then AWM [22:31] trust me [22:31] OK [22:31] RichardWolfVI: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-1132157.html [22:32] RichardWolfVI: the post with "required_component_list" not the one where a guy suggests to set X and Y to some huge values [22:33] pfft, pulseaudio still fucked up :( [22:33] ohh, telepathy needs an extra package for irc? thats weird [22:33] still no sound on audacious when flash playing [22:33] dupondje: I lost all audio [22:34] and other way around :( [22:34] after todays updates [22:34] dupondje: language.. [22:34] BUGabundo: thats even worse :s [22:34] !language ! dupondje [22:34] Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :) [22:34] !language | dupondje [22:34] dupondje: Please watch your language and topic to help keep this channel family friendly. [22:34] :) [22:34] got to go [22:34] bbl, I think [22:34] BUGabundo: ALSA here, I have audio :D [22:34] lolol [22:34] thekorn_: telepathy need a package for every protocol. the one for irc just isn't a dependency of empathy (i think it's in suggests field) [22:35] kklimonda, ok, and what is the use of telepathy-haze then? [22:35] libpurple speaks irc [22:36] thekorn_: probably -haze isn't finished [22:36] BUGabundo: I'd like gocky not to take my screen scpace [22:36] RichardWolfVI: it can hide [22:37] BUGabundo: How? [22:37] there's an option on it [22:37] kklimonda, right, maybe that's the case, [22:37] but now I have to go [22:37] i'm fixxing file-roller atm [22:37] bye [22:37] its a hell :(