| kklimonda | any idea what to do with bug 292517? | 00:07 |
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| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 292517 in transmission ""Add a torrent" file dialog unusable" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292517 | 00:07 |
| kklimonda | <kklimonda> charles_: hmm.. I'll ask on #ubuntu-bugs.. I'd mark it probably as Fix released as it's "fixed" in newer version of Ubuntu/Transmission.. but what was exactly fixed is another issue.. | 00:07 |
| micahg | kklimonda: is anyone else affected? | 00:09 |
| kklimonda | micahg: no as far as I know. | 00:10 |
| micahg | You shouldn't mark it fix released unless you know what's fixed | 00:10 |
| micahg | As far as I understand the policy | 00:10 |
| micahg | you can check the changelog to transmission to see if it's listed | 00:11 |
| micahg | otherwise, I'd mark invalid if no one is affected anymore | 00:11 |
| kklimonda | no, transmission's dev is the one who made the last comment and he also doesn't know what was it. It sounds similar to a gtk+ bug I've seen few times but then it shouldn't be fixed by installing newer version of Transmission. | 00:12 |
| micahg | well, does the new transmission rely on a newer GTK lib | 00:13 |
| micahg | ? | 00:13 |
| kklimonda | newer transmision was installed on 8.10 from PPA so gtk+ wasn't updated.. | 00:14 |
| charles_ | no, it doesn't | 00:14 |
| micahg | ok | 00:14 |
| charles_ | I'm not saying it's fixed, or not fixed | 00:14 |
| micahg | so maybe it was something specific in the usage of GTK in transmission that's been fixed | 00:14 |
| charles_ | but the OP is now on Vista and can't respond to questions | 00:14 |
| micahg | and the other GTK fixes fixed it globally? | 00:14 |
| micahg | ok | 00:14 |
| micahg | so mark invalid | 00:14 |
| micahg | and if user switches back and has an isssue, user can reopen | 00:15 |
| charles_ | is there a stock comment for this? :) | 00:15 |
| micahg | not really | 00:15 |
| micahg | this would be | 00:15 |
| micahg | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs%20resolved%20after%20update%20or%20config%20change | 00:15 |
| micahg | if user could confirm | 00:15 |
| micahg | but maybe you can tweak | 00:16 |
| micahg | instead of being fixed, say user is unable to test or something | 00:16 |
| charles_ | micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/292517/comments/8 | 00:32 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 292517 in transmission ""Add a torrent" file dialog unusable" [Undecided,Incomplete] | 00:32 |
| micahg | Looks good charles_ | 00:35 |
| micahg | I was about to attempt to verify | 00:36 |
| charles_ | that would be nice | 00:43 |
| micahg | charles_: I don't experience it on an Intrepid LiveCD | 00:48 |
| micahg | with 1.34 | 00:48 |
| charles_ | micahg: ok. thanks for giving it a spin | 01:07 |
| micahg | np, Virtualbox is great | 01:08 |
| charles_ | kklimonda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission will look so empty once 1.72 gets merged :) | 01:11 |
| YoBoY | hi | 06:12 |
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| dholbach | good morning | 07:34 |
| thekorn | hey dholbach | 07:34 |
| dholbach | hi thekorn! | 07:35 |
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| bcurtiswx | so theres a bug, thats has a fix upstream.. does this mean the ubuntu bug can be marked fix released? or do i have to wait for it to be uploaded to ubuntu | 15:19 |
| pedro_ | bcurtiswx: second option | 15:22 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro_: thx :) | 15:23 |
| pedro_ | you're welcome | 15:23 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro_: would fix-committed be appropriate, or is that only for people who have been assigned to the bug? | 15:27 |
| bddebian | Boo | 15:29 |
| bcurtiswx | hi bddebian | 15:29 |
| pedro_ | bcurtiswx: on the desktop bugs we use fix-committed but on the rest of the distro it's only used if the fix was committed to a bzr branch | 15:29 |
| bddebian | Hello bcurtiswx | 15:29 |
| bcurtiswx | pedro: ok, thx again | 15:30 |
| pedro_ | no problem :-) | 15:30 |
| bcurtiswx | hi hggdh | 15:33 |
| hggdh | hi bcurtiswx, good morning | 15:34 |
| bcurtiswx | good morning | 15:35 |
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| plars | does lp have a way to see who marked something as a dup? | 16:29 |
| hggdh | plars, try the activity log | 16:31 |
| hggdh | (not sure it will be there, though) | 16:31 |
| hggdh | plars, worst scenario, the ubuntu-bugs mailinglist archives will have it, since an email will be sent out to the list | 16:32 |
| plars | that had it, thanks hggdh | 16:33 |
| plars | looks like someone just misfired, probably a copy/paste into the wrong bug type thing | 16:34 |
| kklimonda_ | is apport still disabled in karmic? | 17:11 |
| hggdh | kklimonda_, it should not | 17:11 |
| seb128 | by default yes | 17:11 |
| seb128 | we get enough bugs already | 17:12 |
| seb128 | there is usually no point to get flooded by crash bugs in early unstable versions | 17:12 |
| hggdh | at which point is apport enabled, then? Late alphas, or beta? | 17:21 |
| seb128 | hggdh: before beta, could be for the next alpha version | 17:26 |
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| hggdh | thanks, seb128 | 17:29 |
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| vimpulse | hi all. I'm currently not running Ubuntu. But I wonder: In Ubuntu, does a bug reporting tool, or at least a friendly dialog box, pop up when an application has an X protocol error such as BadMatch and suddenly quits? | 19:29 |
| andresmujica | we've got apport for that | 19:34 |
| andresmujica | it's enabled by default during the develpment cycle and then disabled by default (as far as i know) | 19:34 |
| hggdh | on standard releases, indeed | 19:34 |
| andresmujica | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport | 19:35 |
| vimpulse | I googled some more. I saw one user mention (in 2008) that Apport didn't open when they got a BadMatch X error: http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-892466.html . 1. Are you sure that apport pops up when a BadMatch happens? 2. What if someone is running an LTS release and an app quits with an X error? Do they get any friendly dialog box that tells them what the error was? 3. In general, when Ubun | 19:46 |
| vimpulse | it suddenly quits within 10 seconds of starting up, does Ubuntu display a dialog box showing its stdout and stderr? | 19:46 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, (1) no, I am not sure. If you have such an error, you can check it (I do not); (2) by default apport is disabled on stable releases; (3) no, but details of the error should be available on the logs | 20:08 |
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| vimpulse | In the case where an app *segfaults* on an LTS version of Ubuntu, what happens? Does the app simply disappear with no dialog box to tell you what happened? | 20:19 |
| micahg | vimpulse: sometimes you'll get notified | 20:21 |
| hggdh | in the case an app "sig"-faults -- be it any signal -- on any Ubuntu release (except the devel one), then there will be not much indication of the failure, except if the app itself traps the fault | 20:21 |
| micahg | vimpulse: you can enable apport on a stable release if you wish | 20:22 |
| Pici | sig? | 20:22 |
| hggdh | signal, Pici | 20:22 |
| hggdh | sigsegv, sigabrt, sigill, etc | 20:22 |
| vimpulse | why not enable Apport by default even on LTS releases? That way, segfaults will be more apparent. | 20:22 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: don't forget that if you dupe a bug you have to carry over any tasks that don't exist on the dipe | 20:22 |
| micahg | vimpulse: not everyone wants to submit bugs | 20:22 |
| vimpulse | micahg: they won't have to. But the fact that apport appears will make it clear that the program crashed. | 20:23 |
| micahg | yes, but the purpose of apport in ubuntu AFAIK is to submit bugs to launchpad | 20:23 |
| vimpulse | micahg: ok fine, here's another idea. You could show a dialog like Vista does. "This program crashed. Close it or restart it?" | 20:23 |
| micahg | I think KDE apps might already do that | 20:24 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: *dupe, otherwise you lose data like you did with the papercuts bug | 20:24 |
| rendero | hello, in kde, sometimes all icons disappear | 20:24 |
| rendero | when i put the cursor on them | 20:25 |
| rendero | is there a bug about | 20:25 |
| micahg | rendero: try #ubuntu for support, this channel is for triaging bugs | 20:25 |
| rendero | ok | 20:25 |
| micahg | please :) | 20:25 |
| vimpulse | rendero: and once you get there, | 20:25 |
| hggdh | heh | 20:26 |
| * micahg winks at hggdh | 20:26 | |
| vimpulse | rendero: please say your whole question on one long long line, since each time you press Enter, you cause perhaps 100K or even half a megabyte to go out over the Internet. | 20:27 |
| micahg | maybe we should change this to ubuntu-triage? | 20:27 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, I also consider this a nice option | 20:27 |
| vimpulse | hggdh: a nice option for what? | 20:27 |
| vimpulse | micahg: if you named it that, I wouldn't've found it. Debian calls theirs #debian-bugs, and I think other distros name theirs similarly too. | 20:27 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, sorry, we lost context: a pop-up stating the app crashed, restart/no/report | 20:27 |
| vimpulse | hggdh: yes | 20:28 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, why not propose it on brainstorm? | 20:28 |
| micahg | vimpulse: we have a list of ubuntu IRC channels at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat | 20:28 |
| vimpulse | micahg: i never check that list, I just guess :) | 20:29 |
| vimpulse | (I used to use Ubuntu.) | 20:29 |
| vimpulse | hggdh: do good ideas from brainstorm really have a good chance of getting implemented? | 20:29 |
| micahg | hggdh: +1 | 20:29 |
| vimpulse | hggdh: am I better off filing a bug against apport? | 20:29 |
| vimpulse | micahg: :) | 20:29 |
| micahg | vimpulse: brainstorm allows the come bug trackermunity to give feedback without cluttering th | 20:30 |
| micahg | ugh | 20:30 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, a good idea will be looked at | 20:30 |
| micahg | brainstorm allows the community to give feedback without cluttering the bug tracker | 20:30 |
| micahg | is the brainstorm channel for ideas or support for brainstorm? | 20:32 |
| micahg | #ubuntu-brainstorm | 20:32 |
| micahg | hmm seems to be empty | 20:34 |
| hggdh | rather | 20:35 |
| micahg | hggdh: ?? | 20:38 |
| hggdh | rather empty, I meant | 20:38 |
| micahg | ah | 20:38 |
| micahg | hggdh: are appropriate comics allowed in teh channel? | 20:38 |
| hggdh | just forgot the other half of it ;-) | 20:38 |
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| hggdh | micahg, I would say yes. Being completely serious is a bore... being critical of oneself, on the other hand, is very good (and some say it is a genetic trait :-) | 20:39 |
| micahg | http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/BE5LlQEtD_M/ | 20:40 |
| hggdh | heh | 20:40 |
| hggdh | I like it | 20:40 |
| maxb | This is bizarre. I have a Word document that imports fine into OOo on one machine but not on another. | 20:43 |
| maxb | The only difference I can think of is that one is i386 and the other is amd64. Both Karmic. | 20:43 |
| hggdh | same version, maxb? | 20:43 |
| maxb | yup, current karmic on both | 20:44 |
| hggdh | bug it ;-) it indeed bizarre... | 20:44 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: where do you find whats bring built for ubuntu now and recent successes/fails | 20:54 |
| bcurtiswx | being* | 20:54 |
| bcurtiswx | well, i guess anyone can answer that :P | 20:55 |
| plars | bcurtiswx: https://launchpad.net/builders | 20:56 |
| bcurtiswx | plars: ty | 20:58 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, sorry -- my xchat flatly refuses to beep when I am adressed. | 21:01 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: pidgin? | 21:01 |
| bcurtiswx | i meant, you should try pidgin | 21:02 |
| bcurtiswx | then you get a special notification bubble too :D | 21:02 |
| hggdh | I did use pidgin for a while, but it is too full of features; I find xchat saner ;-) | 21:02 |
| bcurtiswx | are you testing empathy? | 21:03 |
| bcurtiswx | seems much less feature full | 21:03 |
| bcurtiswx | and has telepathy-idle for IRC connection | 21:03 |
| bcurtiswx | brb | 21:04 |
| hggdh | I briefly tried it, but there was no channel users list, so I went back to xchat | 21:04 |
| vimpulse | micahg: hggdh: thanks for your answers and suggestions. I filed "Tell the user the program crashed, and offer to relaunch it" at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20368/ | 21:07 |
| hggdh | vimpulse, thank you. | 21:08 |
| bcurtiswx | back | 21:09 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: the 2.27.3 fixes it.. its gonna be in the PPA shortly this week | 21:09 |
| bcurtiswx | but i found that a pain too | 21:09 |
| bcurtiswx | the no users list | 21:09 |
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| vimpulse | maxb: attach the word document to the bug, if you can. | 21:13 |
| maxb | Company confidential, sadly. | 21:21 |
| maxb | Not as if I'd be forced to use Word documents for any other reason! :-) | 21:21 |
| hggdh | bcurtiswx, thanks | 21:24 |
| bcurtiswx | hggdh: yw :) | 21:25 |
| bencrisford | !info pessulus | 21:31 |
| ubot4 | bencrisford: pessulus (source: pessulus): lockdown editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.26.0-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 39 kB, installed size 1200 kB | 21:31 |
| chrisccoulson | mrooney - which papercuts bug? | 21:45 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: oh sorry, bug 390780 | 22:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 390780 in gdm ""Login Window" application's minimum window height inhibits visibility (dup-of: 189192)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390780 | 22:44 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 189192 in gdm "gdmsetup dialog is to big for 1024 x 768 resolution" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189192 | 22:44 |
| mrooney | hey that's a new ubot feature to me | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | ah | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | i missed that papercut task deliberately;) | 22:44 |
| chrisccoulson | gdm-setup no longer exists in the new gdm which will appear in karmic shortly, so there's not much point in focusing any effort on that | 22:45 |
| mrooney | chrisccoulson: oh okay, a comment would probably be useful to that effect so the person or other people who discover it know why :) | 22:51 |
| chrisccoulson | yeah, i probably should have done that | 22:52 |
| chrisccoulson | thanks for spotting it:) | 22:52 |
| bcurtiswx | is there anything big about the new GDM? | 22:53 |
| Dario_Andres | Does anyone know how to contact the maintainer of "software-properties-kde". I need to notify them about a change they should do about its bug reporting address | 23:29 |
| dtchen | Dario_Andres: the maintainer is listed as michael vogt, aka mvo here on Freenode | 23:31 |
| dtchen | Dario_Andres: perhaps the best approach is to file a bug affecting the software-properties source package using Launchpad | 23:32 |
| Dario_Andres | dtchen: thanks a lot... I will try to file a report... | 23:35 |
| dtchen | Dario_Andres: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug | 23:36 |
| Dario_Andres | thanks :) | 23:37 |
| Dario_Andres | I need to search for my launchpad account | 23:37 |
| bcurtiswx | Dario_Andres | 23:40 |
| bcurtiswx | https://edge.launchpad.net/~andrebajotierra | 23:40 |
| bcurtiswx | ? | 23:40 |
| Dario_Andres | weird | 23:40 |
| Dario_Andres | that page exists and it is me | 23:41 |
| Dario_Andres | but my nick/mail is andreSbajotierra | 23:41 |
| Dario_Andres | I guess this "pseudo-account" was created from PO KDE files... (in which I mispelled my own mail address one time) | 23:41 |
| bcurtiswx | that spelling brings up the same name | 23:41 |
| bcurtiswx | same pasge* | 23:41 |
| bcurtiswx | eek | 23:41 |
| bcurtiswx | page* | 23:41 |
| Dario_Andres | I already had a launchpad account, I reseted the password and now I'm getting an error: "This account cannot be used." | 23:42 |
| Dario_Andres | err... :-\ | 23:42 |
| Dario_Andres | may be it is easier to contact the maintainer.... he needs to add a line.... and I will be happy :D | 23:43 |
| bcurtiswx | well if all else fails, just create a new launchpad page (i.e. you aren't losing anything important by doing that). | 23:43 |
| Dario_Andres | finally I sent him an email. | 23:52 |
| Dario_Andres | thanks for the help bcurtiswx and dtchen, see you later :) | 23:52 |
| bcurtiswx | since im the reporter i don't want to do this.. but bug #264405 i don't experience anymore so idk if it can be invalidated or not | 23:52 |
| ubot4 | Launchpad bug 264405 in empathy "empathy maximization from tray icon bug" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264405 | 23:52 |
| bcurtiswx | yw Dario | 23:53 |
| bcurtiswx | but i gotta go anyways | 23:55 |
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