[00:07] <kklimonda> any idea what to do with bug 292517?
[00:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 292517 in transmission ""Add a torrent" file dialog unusable" [Undecided,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/292517
 charles_: hmm.. I'll ask on #ubuntu-bugs.. I'd mark it probably as Fix released as it's "fixed" in newer version of Ubuntu/Transmission.. but what was exactly fixed is another issue..
[00:09] <micahg> kklimonda: is anyone else affected?
[00:10] <kklimonda> micahg: no as far as I know.
[00:10] <micahg> You shouldn't mark it fix released unless you know what's fixed
[00:10] <micahg> As far as I understand the policy
[00:11] <micahg> you can check the changelog to transmission to see if it's listed
[00:11] <micahg> otherwise, I'd mark invalid if no one is affected anymore
[00:12] <kklimonda> no, transmission's dev is the one who made the last comment and he also doesn't know what was it. It sounds similar to a gtk+ bug I've seen few times but then it shouldn't be fixed by installing newer version of Transmission.
[00:13] <micahg> well, does the new transmission rely on a newer GTK lib
[00:13] <micahg> ?
[00:14] <kklimonda> newer transmision was installed on 8.10 from PPA so gtk+ wasn't updated..
[00:14] <charles_> no, it doesn't
[00:14] <micahg> ok
[00:14] <charles_> I'm not saying it's fixed, or not fixed
[00:14] <micahg> so maybe it was something specific in the usage of GTK in transmission that's been fixed
[00:14] <charles_> but the OP is now on Vista and can't respond to questions
[00:14] <micahg> and the other GTK fixes fixed it globally?
[00:14] <micahg> ok
[00:14] <micahg> so mark invalid
[00:15] <micahg> and if user switches back and has an isssue, user can reopen
[00:15] <charles_> is there a stock comment for this? :)
[00:15] <micahg> not really
[00:15] <micahg> this would be
[00:15] <micahg> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Responses#Bugs%20resolved%20after%20update%20or%20config%20change
[00:15] <micahg> if user could confirm
[00:16] <micahg> but maybe you can tweak
[00:16] <micahg> instead of being fixed, say user is unable to test or something
[00:32] <charles_> micahg: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission/+bug/292517/comments/8
[00:32] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 292517 in transmission ""Add a torrent" file dialog unusable" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[00:35] <micahg> Looks good charles_
[00:36] <micahg> I was about to attempt to verify
[00:43] <charles_> that would be nice
[00:48] <micahg> charles_: I don't experience it on an Intrepid LiveCD
[00:48] <micahg> with 1.34
[01:07] <charles_> micahg: ok.  thanks for giving it a spin
[01:08] <micahg> np, Virtualbox is great
[01:11] <charles_> kklimonda: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/transmission will look so empty once 1.72 gets merged :)
[06:12] <YoBoY> hi
[07:34] <dholbach> good morning
[07:34] <thekorn> hey dholbach
[07:35] <dholbach> hi thekorn!
[15:19] <bcurtiswx> so theres a bug, thats has a fix upstream.. does this mean the ubuntu bug can be marked fix released?  or do i have to wait for it to be uploaded to ubuntu
[15:22] <pedro_> bcurtiswx: second option
[15:23] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: thx :)
[15:23] <pedro_> you're welcome
[15:27] <bcurtiswx> pedro_: would fix-committed be appropriate,  or is that only for people who have been assigned to the bug?
[15:29] <bddebian> Boo
[15:29] <bcurtiswx> hi bddebian
[15:29] <pedro_> bcurtiswx: on the desktop bugs we use fix-committed but on the rest of the distro it's only used if the fix was committed to a bzr branch
[15:29] <bddebian> Hello bcurtiswx
[15:30] <bcurtiswx> pedro: ok, thx again
[15:30] <pedro_> no problem :-)
[15:33] <bcurtiswx> hi hggdh
[15:34] <hggdh> hi bcurtiswx, good morning
[15:35] <bcurtiswx> good morning
[16:29] <plars> does lp have a way to see who marked something as a dup?
[16:31] <hggdh> plars, try the activity log
[16:31] <hggdh> (not sure it will be there, though)
[16:32] <hggdh> plars, worst scenario, the ubuntu-bugs mailinglist archives will have it, since an email will be sent out to the list
[16:33] <plars> that had it, thanks hggdh
[16:34] <plars> looks like someone just misfired, probably a copy/paste into the wrong bug type thing
[17:11] <kklimonda_> is apport still disabled in karmic?
[17:11] <hggdh> kklimonda_, it should not
[17:11] <seb128> by default yes
[17:12] <seb128> we get enough bugs already
[17:12] <seb128> there is usually no point to get flooded by crash bugs in early unstable versions
[17:21] <hggdh> at which point is apport enabled, then? Late alphas, or beta?
[17:26] <seb128> hggdh: before beta, could be for the next alpha version
[17:29] <hggdh> thanks, seb128
[19:29] <vimpulse> hi all.  I'm currently not running Ubuntu.  But I wonder:  In Ubuntu, does a bug reporting tool, or at least a friendly dialog box, pop up when an application has an X protocol error such as BadMatch and suddenly quits?
[19:34] <andresmujica> we've got apport for that
[19:34] <andresmujica> it's enabled by default during the develpment cycle and then disabled by default (as far as i know)
[19:34] <hggdh> on standard releases, indeed
[19:35] <andresmujica> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Apport
[19:46] <vimpulse> I googled some more.  I saw one user mention (in 2008) that Apport didn't open when they got a BadMatch X error:  http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-892466.html .  1.  Are you sure that apport pops up when a BadMatch happens?  2.  What if someone is running an LTS release and an app quits with an X error?  Do they get any friendly dialog box that tells them what the error was?  3.  In general, when Ubun
[19:46] <vimpulse> it suddenly quits within 10 seconds of starting up, does Ubuntu display a dialog box showing its stdout and stderr?
[20:08] <hggdh> vimpulse, (1) no, I am not sure. If you have such an error, you can check it (I do not); (2) by default apport is disabled on stable releases; (3) no, but details of the error should be available on the logs
[20:19] <vimpulse> In the case where an app *segfaults* on an LTS version of Ubuntu, what happens?  Does the app simply disappear with no dialog box to tell you what happened?
[20:21] <micahg> vimpulse: sometimes you'll get notified
[20:21] <hggdh> in the case an app "sig"-faults -- be it any signal -- on any Ubuntu release (except the devel one), then there will be not much indication of the failure, except if the app itself traps the fault
[20:22] <micahg> vimpulse: you can enable apport on a stable release if you wish
[20:22] <Pici> sig?
[20:22] <hggdh> signal, Pici
[20:22] <hggdh> sigsegv, sigabrt, sigill, etc
[20:22] <vimpulse> why not enable Apport by default even on LTS releases?  That way, segfaults will be more apparent.
[20:22] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: don't forget that if you dupe a bug you have to carry over any tasks that don't exist on the dipe
[20:22] <micahg> vimpulse: not everyone wants to submit bugs
[20:23] <vimpulse> micahg:  they won't have to.  But the fact that apport appears will make it clear that the program crashed.
[20:23] <micahg> yes, but the purpose of apport in ubuntu AFAIK is to submit bugs to launchpad
[20:23] <vimpulse> micahg:  ok fine, here's another idea.  You could show a dialog like Vista does.  "This program crashed.  Close it or restart it?"
[20:24] <micahg> I think KDE apps might already do that
[20:24] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: *dupe, otherwise you lose data like you did with the papercuts bug
[20:24] <rendero> hello, in kde, sometimes all icons disappear
[20:25] <rendero> when i put the cursor on them
[20:25] <rendero> is there a bug about
[20:25] <micahg> rendero: try #ubuntu for support, this channel is for triaging bugs
[20:25] <rendero> ok
[20:25] <micahg> please :)
[20:25] <vimpulse> rendero:  and once you get there,
[20:26] <hggdh> heh
[20:26]  * micahg winks at hggdh
[20:27] <vimpulse> rendero:  please say your whole question on one long long line, since each time you press Enter, you cause perhaps 100K or even half a megabyte to go out over the Internet.
[20:27] <micahg> maybe we should change this to ubuntu-triage?
[20:27] <hggdh> vimpulse, I also consider this a nice option
[20:27] <vimpulse> hggdh:  a nice option for what?
[20:27] <vimpulse> micahg:  if you named it that, I wouldn't've found it.  Debian calls theirs #debian-bugs, and I think other distros name theirs similarly too.
[20:27] <hggdh> vimpulse, sorry, we lost context: a pop-up stating the app crashed, restart/no/report
[20:28] <vimpulse> hggdh:  yes
[20:28] <hggdh> vimpulse, why not propose it on brainstorm?
[20:28] <micahg> vimpulse: we have a list of ubuntu IRC channels at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat
[20:29] <vimpulse> micahg:  i never check that list, I just guess :)
[20:29] <vimpulse> (I used to use Ubuntu.)
[20:29] <vimpulse> hggdh:  do good ideas from brainstorm really have a good chance of getting implemented?
[20:29] <micahg> hggdh: +1
[20:29] <vimpulse> hggdh:  am I better off filing a bug against apport?
[20:29] <vimpulse> micahg:  :)
[20:30] <micahg> vimpulse: brainstorm allows the come bug trackermunity to give feedback without cluttering th
[20:30] <micahg> ugh
[20:30] <hggdh> vimpulse, a good idea will be looked at
[20:30] <micahg> brainstorm allows the community to give feedback without cluttering the bug tracker
[20:32] <micahg> is the brainstorm channel for ideas or support for brainstorm?
[20:32] <micahg> #ubuntu-brainstorm
[20:34] <micahg> hmm seems to be empty
[20:35] <hggdh> rather
[20:38] <micahg> hggdh: ??
[20:38] <hggdh> rather empty, I meant
[20:38] <micahg> ah
[20:38] <micahg> hggdh: are appropriate comics allowed in teh channel?
[20:38] <hggdh> just forgot the other half of it ;-)
[20:39] <hggdh> micahg, I would say yes. Being completely serious is a bore... being critical of oneself, on the other hand, is very good (and some say it is a genetic trait :-)
[20:40] <micahg> http://feedproxy.google.com/~r/DilbertDailyStrip/~3/BE5LlQEtD_M/
[20:40] <hggdh> heh
[20:40] <hggdh> I like it
[20:43] <maxb> This is bizarre. I have a Word document that imports fine into OOo on one machine but not on another.
[20:43] <maxb> The only difference I can think of is that one is i386 and the other is amd64. Both Karmic.
[20:43] <hggdh> same version, maxb?
[20:44] <maxb> yup, current karmic on both
[20:44] <hggdh> bug it ;-) it indeed bizarre...
[20:54] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: where do you find whats bring built for ubuntu now and recent successes/fails
[20:54] <bcurtiswx> being*
[20:55] <bcurtiswx> well, i guess anyone can answer that :P
[20:56] <plars> bcurtiswx: https://launchpad.net/builders
[20:58] <bcurtiswx> plars: ty
[21:01] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, sorry -- my xchat flatly refuses to beep when I am adressed.
[21:01] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: pidgin?
[21:02] <bcurtiswx> i meant, you should try pidgin
[21:02] <bcurtiswx> then you get a special notification bubble too :D
[21:02] <hggdh> I did use pidgin for a while, but it is too full of features; I find xchat saner ;-)
[21:03] <bcurtiswx> are you testing empathy?
[21:03] <bcurtiswx> seems much less feature full
[21:03] <bcurtiswx> and has telepathy-idle for IRC connection
[21:04] <bcurtiswx> brb
[21:04] <hggdh> I briefly tried it, but there was no channel users list, so I went back to xchat
[21:07] <vimpulse> micahg:  hggdh:  thanks for your answers and suggestions.  I filed "Tell the user the program crashed, and offer to relaunch it" at http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20368/
[21:08] <hggdh> vimpulse, thank you.
[21:09] <bcurtiswx> back
[21:09] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: the 2.27.3 fixes it.. its gonna be in the PPA shortly this week
[21:09] <bcurtiswx> but i found that a pain too
[21:09] <bcurtiswx> the no users list
[21:13] <vimpulse> maxb:  attach the word document to the bug, if you can.
[21:21] <maxb> Company confidential, sadly.
[21:21] <maxb> Not as if I'd be forced to use Word documents for any other reason! :-)
[21:24] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, thanks
[21:25] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: yw :)
[21:31] <bencrisford> !info pessulus
[21:31] <ubot4> bencrisford: pessulus (source: pessulus): lockdown editor for GNOME. In component main, is optional. Version 2.26.0-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 39 kB, installed size 1200 kB
[21:45] <chrisccoulson> mrooney - which papercuts bug?
[22:44] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: oh sorry, bug 390780
[22:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 390780 in gdm ""Login Window" application's minimum window height inhibits visibility (dup-of: 189192)" [Low,Invalid] https://launchpad.net/bugs/390780
[22:44] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 189192 in gdm "gdmsetup dialog is to big for 1024 x 768 resolution" [Low,Triaged] https://launchpad.net/bugs/189192
[22:44] <mrooney> hey that's a new ubot feature to me
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> ah
[22:44] <chrisccoulson> i missed that papercut task deliberately;)
[22:45] <chrisccoulson> gdm-setup no longer exists in the new gdm which will appear in karmic shortly, so there's not much point in focusing any effort on that
[22:51] <mrooney> chrisccoulson: oh okay, a comment would probably be useful to that effect so the person or other people who discover it know why :)
[22:52] <chrisccoulson> yeah, i probably should have done that
[22:52] <chrisccoulson> thanks for spotting it:)
[22:53] <bcurtiswx> is there anything big about the new GDM?
[23:29] <Dario_Andres> Does anyone know how to contact the maintainer of "software-properties-kde". I need to notify them about a change they should do about its bug reporting address
[23:31] <dtchen> Dario_Andres: the maintainer is listed as michael vogt, aka mvo here on Freenode
[23:32] <dtchen> Dario_Andres: perhaps the best approach is to file a bug affecting the software-properties source package using Launchpad
[23:35] <Dario_Andres> dtchen: thanks a lot... I will try to file a report...
[23:36] <dtchen> Dario_Andres: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/software-properties/+filebug
[23:37] <Dario_Andres> thanks :)
[23:37] <Dario_Andres> I need to search for my launchpad account
[23:40] <bcurtiswx> Dario_Andres
[23:40] <bcurtiswx> https://edge.launchpad.net/~andrebajotierra
[23:40] <bcurtiswx> ?
[23:40] <Dario_Andres> weird
[23:41] <Dario_Andres> that page exists and it is me
[23:41] <Dario_Andres> but my nick/mail is andreSbajotierra
[23:41] <Dario_Andres> I guess this "pseudo-account" was created from PO KDE files... (in which I mispelled my own mail address one time)
[23:41] <bcurtiswx> that spelling brings up the same name
[23:41] <bcurtiswx> same pasge*
[23:41] <bcurtiswx> eek
[23:41] <bcurtiswx> page*
[23:42] <Dario_Andres> I already had a launchpad account, I reseted the password and now I'm getting an error: "This account cannot be used."
[23:42] <Dario_Andres> err... :-\
[23:43] <Dario_Andres> may be it is easier to contact the maintainer.... he needs to add a line.... and I will be happy :D
[23:43] <bcurtiswx> well if all else fails, just create a new launchpad page (i.e. you aren't losing anything important by doing that).
[23:52] <Dario_Andres> finally I sent him an email.
[23:52] <Dario_Andres> thanks for the help bcurtiswx and dtchen, see you later :)
[23:52] <bcurtiswx> since im the reporter i don't want to do this.. but bug #264405 i don't experience anymore so idk if it can be invalidated or not
[23:52] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 264405 in empathy "empathy maximization from tray icon bug" [Low,Incomplete] https://launchpad.net/bugs/264405
[23:53] <bcurtiswx> yw Dario
[23:55] <bcurtiswx> but i gotta go anyways