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p3rrorhello00:39
p3rror i uploaded a package using dput00:39
p3rrorbut it still invisible in the revu.ubuntuwire.com website00:39
p3rrorplease can you tell me what happened ? maybe there are a delay00:39
lifelesshow long ago did you upload it?00:40
p3rroreuh... i did it at 13h00 GMT00:44
p3rrorand here is the contenent of my  dput.cf00:45
p3rror[revu]00:45
p3rrorfqdn = revu.ubuntuwire.com00:45
p3rrorincoming = /incoming00:45
p3rrorlogin = anonymous00:45
p3rrorprogress_indicator = 200:45
p3rrorallow_unsigned_uploads = 000:45
ajmitchp3rror: and what package did you upload?00:46
p3rrora python module named python-ipcalc00:46
ajmitchtry uploading a source-only package (built with debuild -S)00:47
ajmitchrevu won't accept binary uploads00:47
p3rrordone00:49
p3rrorSuccessfully uploaded packages.00:49
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ajmitchyeah, that's just dput reporting that the ftp part didn't break00:51
p3rrorgreat00:52
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p3rrorwell right now i can see my package is the new packages list00:52
ajmitchlooks like it's there, good00:52
p3rroryes ajmitch00:54
p3rrorthanks for support00:54
RoAkSoAxHeya guys. On a merge I'm working on, during build process, It does this: a2x -f manpage debian/apgdiff.1.txt ad I get this: DEPRECATED: apgdiff.1.txt: line 21: old glossary list syntax01:02
RoAkSoAxand this: a2x: xmllint not found: skipping validity checking01:02
RoAkSoAxdo you know what can be wrong with it, and/or a place where explains how can I resolve the DEPRECATED warning of the manpage?01:03
skorpiushello room01:25
skorpiuscan someone tell me any good video editor exept kdenlive and cinelerra01:27
Ampelbeinskorpius: this is not the right place to ask, you get better help in #ubuntu.01:28
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RoAkSoAxvorian, ping02:03
vorianRoAkSoAx: PONG02:04
vorian:P02:04
RoAkSoAxvorian, how's it going :) ?02:04
voriangood02:04
RoAkSoAxvorian, happy fathers day :) you are a dad right?02:04
vorianhow are you doing?02:04
vorianyep, i have 5 chillens02:05
vorianthanks :)02:05
RoAkSoAxvorian, I'm doing well. Do you have little time to help me out with something?02:05
voriansure thing02:05
vorianor i'll try, at least :)02:06
RoAkSoAxvorian, ok. I'm mering apgdiff, during build process i get this warning: DEPRECATED: apgdiff.1.txt: line 21: old glossary list syntax02:06
vorianhmm02:07
RoAkSoAxvorian, and this is because of ':-' in this file: http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201198/ after each option... so, I was wondering if removing ':-' is the right thing to do, since I've done that and now it does not shows that warning02:07
vorianis apgdiff.1 in the debian directory?02:07
vorianhrm02:08
vorianodd02:08
RoAkSoAxvorian, so having :- after each option is the right syntax?02:08
vorianit would give you a warning otherwise02:08
vorianon line 3, and 6 and 10 and 14 and 2002:09
vorianetc...02:09
RoAkSoAxvorian, (i'm not pasting the complete file) but yes, if I remove the :- from version it shows the warning on line 6 and so on02:09
vorianah, ok02:10
RoAkSoAxvorian, so, what I'm actually saying is if i need to delete that :- or add something else instead so that that warning is not showed02:12
vorianit would seem appropriate to drop it, but I'm not entirely sure02:12
vorianit should be02:12
vorian-- option x02:12
vorianso, yeah no colon/hyphen02:13
RoAkSoAxvorian, ok because when i drop the :-, the manpage (after built) it shows like: --version displays apgdiff version02:13
RoAkSoAxhttp://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201199/02:13
RoAkSoAxvorian, do you know where can I find an explanation on the syntax used on a plain text manpage?? I guess they should explain that there...02:15
masterkernelHello, I am in need of a reviewer for my package, kernelcheck. It is a GUI tool that can automatically (custom) build any 2.6 kernel from the upstream source with any patches the user wants.02:30
masterkernelLink: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kernelcheck02:33
vorianRoAkSoAx: sorry02:36
voriangot distracted for a moment02:36
RoAkSoAxvorian, np :)02:36
RoAkSoAxvorian, so anyways... what do you think I should do, Or should I just leave it as it is?02:37
voriani would leave it02:37
vorianuntouched02:38
RoAkSoAxvorian, ok Will do then. Now I have a second question, during build process it also shows me this : a2x: xmllint not found: skipping validity checking.02:39
RoAkSoAxit does not affect the build process, but adding libxml2-utils to Build-Depends will make that warning go away... so... since it actually does not affect the build process, should I add that package to Build-Depends (or Build-Depends-Indep), or where should it go?02:40
vorian/usr/bin/xmllint02:40
voriandoes it build-dep on libxml2-dev02:40
vorian?02:40
RoAkSoAxvorian, Build-Depends-Indep: docbook-xml, docbook-xsl, xsltproc, asciidoc   Build-Depends: ant, debhelper (>> 7), quilt, default-jdk02:41
RoAkSoAxvorian, or should it go under Recommends?02:42
RoAkSoAxvorian, never mind what I just said under Recommends since it's only needed during the Build Process02:42
voriani would think it would need to be a build dep based on the verbage you used02:43
RoAkSoAxvorian, I have tested it under Build-Depend-Indep and the warning is no longer showed02:44
voriangood02:45
RoAkSoAxvorian, so that would be the actual fix then. Every time I get a problem like that I should check for a package that makes warnings like that go away and just add them t Build-Depends, even though if they are not actually needed for the building process?02:46
vorianyes - just be careful about where the packages come from02:47
vorianas far as main/universe/multiverse02:48
RoAkSoAxvorian, ok cool thanks. That's it. :) Thanks for your help02:49
vorianno problemo02:49
RoAkSoAxvorian, now it shows me: a2x: failed: xmllint --nonet --noout --valid "debian/apgdiff.1.xml" and I'm guessing it is because of the ":-" in the .txt file03:00
vorianpossibly03:02
RoAkSoAxvorian, yes I have just tested it and it's because of the ':-'03:03
RoAkSoAxvorian, do you know where can I find a howto or anything that show's me how should the syntax be for a manpage in a .txt file?03:03
voriani don't know a specific place - I usually google for examples03:04
* vorian hates manpages03:05
* RoAkSoAx is starting to hate them :)03:05
RoAkSoAxvorian, well I've been searching for it but have not find anything that would help me out... well I'll keep searching I guess03:06
vorianmostly because they seem to be the most time-consuming part03:06
vorianhttp://www.faqs.org/docs/Linux-mini/Man-Page.html03:06
vorianthat's for groff03:07
* vorian must depart03:07
voriansee ya later RoAkSoAx03:07
RoAkSoAxsee ya vorian take care :)03:08
RoAkSoAxthnks for the help03:08
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\shmoins07:24
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dholbachgood morning07:34
PaulOwenahoy dhobach07:36
PaulOweneven dhoLbach07:36
dholbachhi PaulOwen07:36
PaulOwenso here it's mighty happening i guess? first time on this07:36
nelleryhey dholbach!07:37
* PaulOwen jumps and waves07:38
dholbachhiya nellery07:38
dholbachPaulOwen: if you're interested in ubuntu development and everything, head to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/MOTU/GettingStarted :)07:39
PaulOwenim just about to notice that the acpi thing im dling has kdelibs in it, not too sensible when im not on kubuntu i suppose?07:40
PaulOwenaaah is this pure developers channel? im totally wrong here if so :)07:41
* PaulOwen woot it's rushing by...07:43
ak4d7 hi everyone i need help recovering a ubuntu installation after crashing it with a compiz configuration now it won't login or start07:43
PaulOwenhi ak4d7, medic is on his way07:44
ak4d7medic?07:44
PaulOwenokay, ive just read this is masters of the universe, not mark of the unicorn or whatever07:45
PaulOwenyeah, help, i guess, but maybe only for developers07:45
ak4d7i have tried uninstalling gnome and installing it again07:45
ak4d7im no developer but i need help07:46
PaulOweni guess i'll type /list and see if theres a newbie channel for us07:46
siretartPaulOwen: try #ubuntu07:47
PaulOwenthat list thing is extra fun on isdn07:48
PaulOwenah thanks siretart :)07:48
PaulOweni wonder how they always come up with this channel names07:48
ajmitchgood evening07:51
directhexhiya ajmitch07:52
PaulOwengood night and good luck and thanks for scripting this totally astonishing application, bugfix, doomsday device right now07:52
PaulOwenpeace :D07:52
ajmitchthat was a bit random07:53
directhexajmitch, did you see the 3-page hit piece against me on itwire? yays! ^_^07:54
ajmitchcouldn't be bothered reading past about halfway down page 107:54
directhexbut sam is a journalist! it says so on the internet!07:54
ajmitchk07:55
ajmitchso when does his writing turn into something coherent?07:55
ajmitchbut I'm impressed that you're getting so much attention :)07:56
directhextry applying vodka07:56
ajmitchI only have beer :(07:56
directhexyeah, well, shows what happens if you put your head above the parapet ¬_¬07:56
ajmitchoh well, someone has to do it07:58
directhexi can't afford to blog again until july, sadly07:59
ajmitchbandwidth costs for getting hit so often?07:59
directhexajmitch, precisely08:04
ajmitchwhat, you haven't got the cheque from MS for your advocacy yet? ;)08:04
directhexi'll ask them tomorrow08:05
ajmitchah, good plan08:05
directhexSummary for June 200908:05
directhexTotal bandwidth used 6704 MB08:05
directhexTotal allowed 3600 MB08:05
slytherindirecthex: where is the link?08:06
ajmitchand I wonder why I don't have a blog...08:06
directhexslytherin, to what i wrote, or itwire's subsequent rambling?08:06
slytherindirecthex: ITWire's rambling08:08
\shdirecthex: you need more Bandwidth?08:09
StevenK3.6GB a month?08:09
StevenKGeeez, my provider for my VPS allows 200GB08:09
\shI'm on a 2TB/month plan...08:10
ajmitchStevenK: but is that based in a civilised country with regards to data caps?08:10
StevenKajmitch: The VPS is in the US.08:10
ajmitchas I expected08:10
ajmitchunlike trying to host a server in NZ, with a cap of 10 GB international traffic per month08:11
StevenKHah. Ouch.08:11
ajmitchthis is why we have predominantly NZ clients :)08:11
directhex\sh, i need to have a serious think about what to do on the bandwidth front, certainly08:12
ajmitch\sh has contacts...08:12
directhexslytherin, http://www.itwire.com/content/view/25799/1231/08:12
\shdirecthex: apache2 + php wordpress08:13
\sh+mysql + wordpress == no problem...no ssh account...if you can live with that...I can help you out :)08:14
directhex\sh, thanks for the offer, but i'd rather pay for something with ssh access08:14
\shs/wordpress/{wordpress,drupal,s9y,django}/08:14
directhex\sh, for now i'm simply ignoring my webhost in the hope that they ignore me.....08:14
directhexi like wordpress. it's nice 'n' easy08:15
\shdirecthex: when I find the time...I'm going to upgrade my rootserver plan to a new machine with XEN possibility..so it's also possible to have ssh accounts...08:16
directhex\sh, well, time is the eternal issue isn't it :)08:19
directhexon a related note, i need to finish packing for hamburg08:19
\shdirecthex: right now, yes...this week I'm @home...and the upcoming 4 weeks I'm working in a datacenter in Frankfurt...my wife is already happy about that..08:19
StevenK\sh: Happy smiley or happy sarcastic?08:20
Hobbseedirecthex: just get a linode.  problem solved ;)08:21
\shStevenK: I have a 8 weeks old little boy @home..do you think my better half smiles happy when I'm 4 weeks gone from home?08:21
StevenK\sh: Hah, right.08:21
* directhex packs his UDS Crew t-shirt for the microsoft-sponsored event on wednesday08:21
StevenKdirecthex: +10,000 for Linode08:21
directhexStevenK, i was considering a VPS, certainly08:22
directhexStevenK, wasn't really looking at linode as i really prefer uk-based hosting. but it's an option08:23
directhexStevenK, problem is, i suck & have no idea about configuring apache to do all the gubbins i want :)08:23
Hobbseedirecthex: won't take you much to learn.  I managed08:24
StevenKdirecthex: Apache is easy :-)08:24
StevenKdirecthex: My rates are very reasonable if you want help :-)08:24
directhexi'm sure i'm supposed to pipe up with "mod-mono!" or somesuch, but i really like wordpress.08:29
directhexokay, all packed, i hope08:39
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stefanlsdBloGTK has a fix we need in Jaunty that prevents the app from working.  For it to work in Jaunty, if the user has it installed, we need to delete ~/.BloGTK/BloGTK.conf. Should we do this in the SRU? Or just let the user know they should do this?08:51
Laneyyou can't touch the users home directory08:52
stefanlsdLaney: ok. thanks08:55
gaspaslytherin: hi!09:01
* Hobbsee is getting really bored with the persistent X deaths09:03
\shstefanlsd: another sane idea would be to let the app (bloGTK) do the migration of $HOME/.BloGTK/09:04
\shstefanlsd: but I think that's too much new feature for an SRU09:05
stefanlsd\sh: yeah. thanks. I agree. To big a change for an SRU. I dont think the app is too widely used as is.09:19
\shhmm..gwibber is totally borked on jaunty...09:46
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mok0\sh: Huh? Gwibber works fine for me...10:55
\shmok0: gwibber just segfaulted here for me..10:57
mok0\sh: yikes10:57
RainCTTheMuso: this may interest you: http://brainstorm.ubuntu.com/idea/20263/12:05
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kpircI need a reviewer for my 'cadabra' package on REVU (it's a symbolic computer algebra system with graphical front-end). Any takers?12:50
slytherinkpirc: does it use java?13:45
mok0ydrkkk... util.F:110: internal compiler error: in replace_reg, at reg-stack.c:70113:46
statikhello world! i'm working on http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/details.py?upid=6112 , and I'm not sure the right/best/proper way to drop some files from being included in the binary package. any hints?14:03
statikdholbach: thanks a million for the review comments14:04
hyperairstatik: rm them manually, or use dh_install -X14:13
hyperairman dh_install for more information14:14
statikhyperair: if i rm them manually, thats directly touching the source and is frowned on, right?14:14
* statik reads dh_install man page14:14
hyperairnonono14:14
hyperairyou rm them in debian/rules14:14
hyperairafter the dh_install call, you rm them from debian/<pkg>14:15
hyperairfor example14:15
statikok, thats making more sense14:15
hyperair=)14:15
hyperair-X is a better approach for this14:15
hyperairif you use dh7 style, it's trivial to add this to debian/rules.14:16
statikso i just need to figure out which rules target to override then I think14:16
hyperairyep14:16
hyperairer you're using dh7 right?14:16
hyperairjust do override_dh_install14:16
hyperairi mean create a rule by that name14:16
hyperairthen run dh_install -Xfoo -Xbar14:16
hyperairinside that rule14:16
statiklooks like i'm currently using 6, but I could bump it to 714:17
statikhyperair: thanks!14:17
hyperairlook into man dh14:17
DktrKranzstatik: I've commented two packages of yours, while at it you can consider adopting them.14:19
DktrKranzI think they apply for simplesetting too14:19
hyperairadopting? O_o14:19
DktrKranzhyperair: adopting changes :)14:19
statikDktrKranz, thanks for the feedbacks, I'll be working on them today. Yes, i've read the review comments for all 4 packages I have in revu right now, and will definitely be applying the same advice/fixes to all of them14:20
hyperairah. heheh14:20
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statikDktrKranz, I don't have a deep knowledge of the difference between python-support and python-central, any reason that I shouldn't just switch as you suggested?14:24
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dholbachstatik: no worries14:25
* statik reads http://wiki.debian.org/DebianPythonFAQ14:26
hyperairi find pycentral just plain confusing14:30
DktrKranzstatik: there's no reason to switch if you are familiar with pycentral. both do the same job, and you can skip their logic, pysupport is friendlier to use and more robust during upgrades14:39
slytherindoes anyone have any idea what all cards are expected to have kernel mode setting enabled drivers in karmic?14:39
DktrKranzanyway, I wrote it's up to you. it's not strictly required. keep in mind Debian would like to merge them to have a central point, though14:40
slytherinNCommander: ping14:45
NCommanderslytherin, pong14:45
slytherinNCommander: Do you think powerpc arch should also switch to grub2. Is it feasible?14:47
NCommanderFeasible, es, I dunno if its wise14:47
slytherinNCommander: what doubts do you have? From functionality point or installation point?14:48
NCommanderI don't know enough abotu GRUB2 to say either way14:49
slytherinhmm14:50
geserdoes someone now a package (build-)depending on a lib*-gcj package? or how to resolve "dpkg-shlibdeps: failure: couldn't find library /usr/lib/gcj/itext-2.1.5.jar.so needed by debian/pdftk/usr/bin/pdftk (its RPATH is '')"?14:59
geserthat file is certainly there14:59
slytheringeser: why is that package build depending on -gcj package?15:05
geserslytherin: it's for bug 38451515:05
ubottuLaunchpad bug 384515 in pdftk "pdftk - Files - Sun confidential code" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/38451515:06
geserthe patch from Fedora uses the gcj build version of libitext-java15:06
gesershouldn't it link against libitext-java-gcj at all? pdftk is written in C++ but also uses Java15:07
masterkernelHello, I am looking for a reviewer for my package, kernelcheck - an automated tool that can (custom) build any 2.6 kernel from the upstream source with any user patches.15:12
masterkernelLink: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kernelcheck15:13
slytheringeser: let me take a look at the patch15:18
hanneswhi there... I'm trying to build openjdk-6 with pbuilder and get this:15:19
hanneswThe following packages have unmet dependencies:15:19
hannesw  pbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy: Depends: libpulse-dev (>= 0.9.12) but it is not installable15:19
hannesw                                 Depends: pulseaudio (>= 0.9.12) but it is not installable15:19
hanneswThe following actions will resolve these dependencies:15:19
hanneswRemove the following packages:15:19
hanneswpbuilder-satisfydepends-dummy15:19
hanneswany idea?15:19
geserslytherin: https://bugzilla.redhat.com/attachment.cgi?id=331737 and see also https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=471811#c11 for some additional steps needed during the build15:20
ubottubugzilla.redhat.com bug 471811 in itext "RfE: Need CNI sub package to resurrect pdftk" [Medium,Closed: rawhide]15:20
kpircslytherin: no, it's C++15:20
slytherinhannesw: probably your pbuilder chroot is not updated15:21
hanneswthanks for the hint, slytherin15:21
geserhannesw: login into your pbuilder and see why the mentioned packages can't be installed15:21
slytheringeser: can this be a simple change of modifying classpath or jni path during build?15:22
hanneswok, i think it was the old chroot - didn't update it from jaunty.15:24
hanneswthanks, guys15:24
geserslytherin: gcj links it fines, the executable seem also to work, but building the deb fails as dh_shlibdeps can't resolve the library15:24
slytherinoh, I understood the problem wrong then.15:25
geserslytherin: the ldd output for the build executable http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201521/15:26
gesertherefore I tried to find an other package using a -gcj package so I could see how it's done there15:27
slytheringeser: see if there is any reverse build dep of libjogl-jni15:28
gesernone15:28
bddebianHeya gang15:29
geserdoko: Hi, do you know of a package build-depending on a lib*-gcj package? I'm trying get pdftk link against libitext-java-gcj which works fine (if I'm doing it correctly) but building the deb fails as dh_shlibdeps can't resolve the linked itext-2.1.5.jar.so file15:31
slytheringeser: how about libaccess-bridge-java-jni or libgtk-jni15:31
geserslytherin: reverse-build-depends doesn't find anything for them15:32
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ximionHello!18:26
ximionI updated the Smile package at REVU, the Smile author has included the GPLv2 now in /copying . But REVU doesn't find the license. Is there a link or something missing to make REVU find the license? (Packege: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/smile )18:26
Laneyit probably wants to be COPYING18:27
Laneybut it doesnt matter so much18:27
ximionokay18:36
* hyperair wonders if anybody uses thunderbird 3.0 with enigmail19:25
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ivokssuperm1: are you here?19:45
superm1ivoks, yeah what's up?19:45
ivokssuperm1: hi; i've noticed /etc/modprobe.d/dmks.conf19:45
ivokssuperm1: i'm preparing one package to use dkms and i need some options for modprobe19:46
ivokssuperm1: should i add options to dkms.conf?19:46
superm1ivoks, specify them in the dkms.conf for the package and dkms adds them to the modprobe for you19:46
ivoksoh, didn't know about that19:46
superm1although a little poorly named for nowadays, it's the MODULES_CONF directive19:47
ivokssuperm1: thanks!19:47
superm1np19:47
ivokssuperm1: yep; works beautiful ;)19:58
Nrrdhi guys, I just want to clarify something regarding an SRU patch related to bug #36474520:23
ubottuLaunchpad bug 364745 in blogtk "blogtk crashes on start" [Undecided,Confirmed] https://launchpad.net/bugs/36474520:23
Nrrdare the changelog notes in the karmic release good enough for the SRU release? or should I be more indepth with the SRU? (I've used the correct numbering methodology BTW)20:24
Laneychangelogs should always be as verbose as they can imo20:24
Laneywhere, what, why20:25
NrrdLaney: blogtk, severe regression as it crashes on startup due to deprecated functionality in python 2.6 rev 6097620:27
NrrdLaney: the changelog mentions all of that except for the severe regression bit20:27
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NrrdLaney: would this cover it in the changelog? http://paste.ubuntu.com/201661/20:45
statikscottK: you know lots about python packaging, any chance you have a minute to give me some advice on how to deal with stripping OS X resource fork gunk out of this package? I've tried the override_dh_install: thing that was suggested earlier, but it doesn't seem to be working. http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/python-simplesettings20:46
LaneyNrrd: looks good20:46
Nrrdsweet, I'll do a summary in the bug, attach the debdiff (again! :) ) and get that sent into SRU then.  Cheers.20:47
ScottKstatik: Maybe on Friday.  I'm on a bit of a deadline today and will be offline mostly tue - thurs.  Ping me then if you haven't got it sorted.20:47
statikScottK: of course, np. hope you hit your deadline20:49
POXstatik: just add `find . -name "\._*" -delete` to clean rule20:59
statikPOX, thanks! would I add an override_clean: target since I am using cdbs and debhelper7 ?20:59
POXclean:: should be enough, cdbs *and* dh7?21:00
POXoh, you're not using sequencer, right21:01
statikPOX: i'm not really sure what sequencer is. I've got a really really simple rules file21:02
statiki can pastebin it21:02
POXsimpler than /usr/share/doc/debhelper/examples/rules.tiny ?21:02
statikPOX: here is what I currently have. http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/201667/21:03
POXclean is not defined in this file, so just use "clean::"21:04
statikPOX: thanks very much for your help, I will try that now21:05
POXand you can use rules.tiny, it will do the same21:05
POXpysupport is default21:05
statikPOX, oh cool, does it handle the egg thing also?21:07
statikexcellent, looks like adding clean:: solved half of it. I still need to figure out why SOURCES.txt is getting changed during the build21:08
statikPOX, is there any way to get those files deleted before setup.py is run? I think that is what is causing SOURCES.txt to be modified21:09
POXI'm not sure about --single-version-externally-managed21:10
POXI think it's default as well, but please check it21:10
statiksure, will look at that now21:10
POXstatik: there is and you already did it21:10
POX(clean rule)21:10
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statikPOX: huh, thats strange then. when I look at the diff.gz that is generated something during the build has changed SOURCES.txt to include references to those ._* files that I deleted21:11
statikalthough the ._* files are left out of the diff.gz now21:12
POXyou can remove SOURCES.txt in clean rule as well, it's regenerated21:13
POX... every time you invokde setup.py install21:13
statikooh, that should do it then. POX, thanks a million for helping me with this.21:13
statikyep, that totally fixed it. hurrah!21:16
POXwell, I'd propose to package it for Debian, but I doubt you will convince us it's worth packaging ;-) (/me just scanned simplesettings/__init__.py)21:18
statikPOX: believe me, i don't want this package for it's own benefit. It's one of the dependencies for windmill though, which I want very much21:29
statiki'm working on the windmill dependencies first, then will work on packaging windmill21:30
POXis it better than webtest?21:32
statiki haven't used webtest before21:35
* statik reads about webtest.canoo.com21:35
POXhttp://pythonpaste.org/webtest/21:36
statikthis is probably a silly question, but what is the right way to see what the current Standards-Version is? I'm confused about whether it is 3.8.1 or 3.8.221:36
POXin debian: rmadison debian-policy; in ubuntu (probably): rmadison ubuntu-policy21:37
statikPOX: ah, webtest is cool. windmill is higher layer, it lets you test javascript is working as expected in the browser. i'm using zope.testbrowser rather than webtest, but webtest seems nice too.21:38
statikhttp://www.getwindmill.com/21:38
nhandlerstatik: The version is also at the bottom of http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/21:40
statikexcellent, thanks21:40
nhandlerPOX: You would want to use 'rmadison -udebian debianpolicy'21:40
nhandlers/debianpolicy/debian-policy/21:40
POXnhandler: I was thinking about ubuntu-policy package21:44
nhandlerPOX: ubuntu-policy isn't the best thing to go by, as it doesn't necessarily need to be in sync with debian-policy (although it usually is)21:45
POXwell, doesn't Standards-Version in Ubuntu packages refer to ubuntu-policy?21:46
nhandlerPOX: No. At least I do not believe that we ever made that policy. That would also cause issues for packages synced from Debian21:51
ScottKIt's also recently we've had a distinction.21:52
nhandlerScottK: You mean relatively recently. It was a couple of months ago21:53
ScottKYes, so this is probably the first time the versions aren't in sync21:54
nhandlerScottK: ubuntu-policy is based on debian-policy, so we have always had some ubuntu modifications (ubuntuX). However, the version itself it usually in sync with debian-policy (i.e. We have ubuntu-policy 3.8.2.0ubuntu1)21:56
ScottKnhandler: Look how far back the ubuntu-policy package goes21:57
nhandlerIs LP karma messed up again, or did cjwatson just get a LOT of karma since the last time I checked21:58
nhandlerScottK: Yeah, I see. I said it was only a couple of months ago it was created21:58
ScottKnhandler: I was responding to "We have always had ..."21:59
nhandlerScottK: Yeah, we have always had an ubuntu delta since the package was created ;)22:00
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masterkernelHello, I am looking for a reviewer for my package, kernelcheck - an automated tool that can (custom) build any 2.6 kernel from the upstream source with any user patches.22:17
masterkernelLink: http://revu.ubuntuwire.com/p/kernelcheck22:17
TechnovikingI uploaded a debdiff for a bug in LP. Anything else I need to do to get this fix into Jaunty?23:02
ajmitchTechnoviking: subscribed ubuntu-universe-sponors?23:07
Technovikingajmitch: never mind it is a bug in main :), epic fail23:07
ajmitchok, ubuntu-main-sponsors then :)23:09

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