/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/22/#xubuntu.txt

mdshaw89Anyone know anything about loading eeexubuntu on an eeepc?  Couldn't find an eeexubuntu channel.00:41
mdshaw89found one - eeepc00:47
phateare the gutsy repositorys down?02:33
VasklevoxHaving issues running 9.04 persistant from thumbdrive, can't recall how to access my laptops harddrive.02:38
Vasklevox'Ello?02:49
TheSheepwell, sorry to heard that02:51
TheSheephear*02:51
* Vasklevox smirks.02:51
VasklevoxWell atleast someone is awake02:51
TheSheepnormally you ask a question, and if somebody knows the answer, they answer02:52
* Vasklevox nods.02:53
VasklevoxBut of course.02:53
VasklevoxI just figure'd it'd be a simple question, the last persistant distro I used was a version of mandriva I recall, there was a folder already supplied to access primary drives.02:54
* Vasklevox shrugs.02:54
TheSheepnah, xubuntu just displays them on your desktop and in the file manager's sidebar02:56
VasklevoxYeah, didn't see it anywhere, clicked on just about everything. Figure'd it be right there as well.02:56
* Vasklevox reads up on mount command.02:57
VasklevoxBenn forever since I've really used linux at all, and even then, it was a short period of time as I was getting back into gaming.02:57
VasklevoxDamn windows anyway...02:57
RaggsVasklevox, amen03:05
VasklevoxIndeed... Given, not like I'm reallying trying, still running at this very moment.03:05
VasklevoxJust have an old Alienware Sentia 223 that I wanna get running again, going to need something not to cpu/ram intensive... I.e., no Windows.03:06
Raggsoh boy03:06
Raggsget the hdd mounted?03:06
VasklevoxOn this computer, I was trying to run 9.04 from thumbdrive, well, I was infact, just couldn't seem to access the laptops harddrive.03:07
TheSheepdoes fdisk -l show it?03:07
RaggsTheSheep, hiya03:08
VasklevoxHeh, didn't try than actually... Bah, need to get another computer up and running so I can talk to ya'll and troubleshoot.03:08
VasklevoxAll I wanted to do was find the .txt of the information for the connection I'm on so I could get on the net, then found I couldn't get to the lappies harddrive.03:09
VasklevoxMan... I think I'ma go dig through my books n' find that Linux Bible or whatever it was called.03:10
VasklevoxMeh, I'll not bother ya, come back and ask more questions after I've doen more prodding.03:11
RaggsVasklevox, no problem, i enjoy the simple stuff03:12
VasklevoxHeh, but of course. Later Raggs, TheSheep. Be back on the marrow if all it good.03:13
ThundaraIs it a common problem to have the setup just not start when trying to install Xubuntu?03:39
ThundaraJust burned a CD of it, plopped it in the CD tray, and started it the system from CD, but when I go to chosing "Install Xubuntu", the computer just restarts =/03:39
luis_hola necesito imprimir unas fotos con la fecha y hora impresa en la misma que programa puedo usar?03:50
nintnintanyone use handbrake?03:54
nintnintdumb question03:55
jeffcequick question will i notice a difference between i386 and LPIA on a dell mini 10?06:11
megloHEY GUYS07:14
megloIs there an xubuntu dev in here07:14
meglocan you tell me07:14
meglowhat you did to the distro :\07:14
megloI thought it was just ubuntu + xfce07:14
megloUhhh, in synaptic did you withhold newer gnome components, because all I'm seeing for the gnome metapackage is 2.22 on 9.0407:15
megloI thought it should be 2.26?07:15
megloheh07:17
megloa lot of the components are 2.26, or 2.2407:17
megloerr07:17
meglohaha i dunno who cares07:17
meglobasically this tiny deb package depends on a lot of gnome stuff argg07:17
maduserwhich package?07:19
meglo'gnome'07:21
meglobut i can't find the package gnome-desktop07:21
megloor maybe it is ubuntu-desktop07:21
maduseryeah07:21
meglolike xubuntu-desktop07:21
meglooohhhhh07:21
megloif it wasn't for this certain package that decided it would be nifty to include evolution/gnome-panel/etcetc07:22
maduserok gnome isn't just a single package07:23
maduserlike KDE07:23
maduserKDE like Gnome is a system bases on many packages07:24
madusergnome is the name of the desktop environment07:25
R1cochetis there any way to install aptoncd w/out installing nautalus?07:28
maduserjust search for it in synamptic and it only installs the app with libraries07:29
R1cochetit wants to install gnome-menus, gnome-panel..........., nautilus, metacity...07:31
maduserhmmm07:32
maduserwhen marked for install?07:32
maduseron mine it doesn't07:32
R1cochetyea when marked for install07:32
R1cochetit wants to add around 20 packages07:33
maduserah, I have those installed07:33
maduserthen you could get the source and change it07:33
R1cochetwill they interfere w/ xfce environment?07:34
maduserno07:34
maduserI have them installed and I don't see them in the menus07:34
R1cochetid rather not like to install all those extra packages07:34
R1cochetok07:34
R1cochetty07:35
maduseryou could get a copy of the deb and edit the dependics07:35
maduserdependencies07:35
maduserto only the Libraries07:35
R1cochethmm surgery07:35
maduserand honestly its not that much space07:35
R1cochetnot worried about the space just didnt want all that extra stuff07:36
R1cochetif i were to remove some dependencies will it still run fine?07:37
R1cochetnot sure y it would need all that extra gnome stuff07:37
maduserapt won't let you07:37
maduserit probably will07:37
maduseryou will need to edit the deb to not install the extra stuff07:37
madusermabe by the non complete removal on sys you could07:38
R1cochetwell i guess if it doesnt run fine i could reinstall through synaptic07:38
R1cochetty much07:39
R1cochetill look into it07:39
ramrodis here someon who runs opera10 on jaunty64 with flash?08:47
ramrodi have sound but no picture08:47
ramrodexept on the adobe test site with the test animation08:47
kbmaniacnewbe to xubuntu, when I highlight text with the mouse, click drag, I cant paste it with middle click, possible ?10:08
TheSheepkbmaniac: make sure you didn't close the application from which you selected10:26
kbmaniacHi, application still open, example, open mousepad, type, highlight text, middle click mouse, zip10:28
TheSheepI use the clipboard manager anyways...10:33
kbmaniacyep I guess I will too, just ctrl-c gives me MS nightmares lol10:35
SiDiSiDi:  !11:01
SiDifoo11:01
* SiDi tests his new IRC client11:01
rameshwori downloaded a xubuntu iso and burned  but it didn't boot from the cd . what to do ?14:27
spY|dacheck bios, boot priority14:46
MTec007im trying to get compiz working but im having some issues. Ishould start by saying i dont know if my system is compatible or not. http://paste.ubuntu.com/201554/17:26
MTec007i would like to try and make it work if possible17:26
SiDiinteresting17:26
SiDithere is a blacklist on their site17:27
MTec007for my hardware?17:27
SiDithere is a list of unsupported cards17:27
SiDimaybe yours is there17:27
SiDithere is also a way to still launch it (ask in #compiz though, i dont remember it), but if the card is blacklisted it'll likely fail17:28
MTec007how do i check my hardware? i forget the command to list it17:29
SiDilshw17:30
MTec007thank you17:30
SiDior lspci | grep VGA for the GPU17:30
SiDi(unless its on AGP and not on PCI :p)17:30
MTec007Laptop17:30
SiDiif you find the courage for it report a bug for the type in xfwm4's name17:30
SiDiit'll avoid the fallback procedure to fail on xubuntu17:31
MTec007i dont see anything that matches up17:32
MTec007i dont know how to post a decent bug report, last time i tried to do that for firefox they needed more input and i couldnt get more etc17:35
MTec007i just want to try and run it, see if it will actually run17:35
angelo_hi17:51
MTec007how do i restart X from CLI? (9.04)17:56
geniiMTec007: if in single user mode: telinit 2               if multi user mode: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start18:15
geniiMTec007: if in single user mode: telinit 2               if multi user mode: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start18:17
justnsane1guys i have a dvd sent to me by courthouse it is video of open proceedings, format is dvd+r,  which the dvd drive is supposed to support ... so, how do i get it to play?  i try to open with totem, and nothing happens (it *may* be in quicktime)18:49
TheSheep!video18:50
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats18:50
justnsane1dvrexport_2009-05-15_1939.pef appears to be the name of the file18:51
justnsane1TheSheep: ok, i downloaded the medibuntu repos and all, but on the one page it says '    *        Some external codecs may be needed in order to play certain proprietary formats such as Apple Quicktime or RealVideo19:34
justnsane1how do i know what codecs?  in synaptic i searched apple quicktime and one of the packages is called 'quicktime-utils' is that what i need?19:35
justnsane1installed quicktime-utils and still totem won't play this file19:44
justnsane1nope, i cant get it to play no how no way19:50
vinnl!quicktime19:51
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats19:51
SiDiyay19:51
SiDii'm sexy19:51
justnsane1installed medibuntu repos and all that19:51
justnsane1vinnl: but nothing works yet on this dvd19:51
TheSheepjustnsane1: I think there is a law that requires the court and other public services to use open formats19:52
TheSheepjustnsane1: at least in civilized countries19:52
vinnl*ignores SiDi* justnsane1, which DVD?19:52
SiDijustnsane1: once the repository is enabled, please refresh the package list (in update-manager with the refresh button, or with sudo apt-get update)19:53
SiDiand only then, install libdvdcss219:53
SiDiand xubuntu-restricted-extras19:54
justnsane1TheSheep: its not a civilized country, its the state of georgia19:57
justnsane1they are dirty and lowdown.  yous can see me @ justice4cori on myspace19:58
justnsane1i'd love to know if there really is a law requiring open formats here, but i doubt it19:58
justnsane1vinnl, this is a video of a judge terrorizing my nieces family into signing an unfair plea agreement, against charges for which she is not guilty19:59
vinnl!dvd20:00
justnsane1so its a courthouse video, supposedly in dvd+r / quicktime format20:00
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats20:00
vinnlHmm20:00
vinnljustnsane1, what have you done until now to get it to work?20:01
justnsane1i made an open records request on may 8 for it, gov is supposed to turn these requests around in 72 hours in georgia (see www.gfaf.org ) and i just got it saturday20:01
justnsane1tried it on various machines, installing all restricted formats etc20:02
vinnlHow did you install the restricted formats?20:02
justnsane1but obviously not the right ones yet20:03
justnsane1from the pages you and sheep showed me20:03
vinnljustnsane1, I entered after TheSheep  linked stuff, what did he link to?20:04
justnsane1did you say i need to reload the synaptic now?20:04
justnsane1same restrictedformats page20:04
justnsane1on ubuntu webstie20:04
justnsane1website20:04
justnsane1For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats <vinnl>20:05
SiDijustnsane1: did you type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" ?20:05
SiDiThats the list of restricted codecs for xubuntu20:05
SiDiit should get you to read 95+% of the files20:05
vinnljustnsane1, you might want to see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu20:06
vinnlAnd xubuntu-restricted-extras :)20:06
SiDi(you talked about dvds so i thought it was commercial dvds, which need libdvdcss to crack the copy protection)20:06
justnsane1yes, already installed restricted extras, libdvdcss2, and the other 32codes package mentioned there20:14
justnsane1still wont play on movie player or movie player (gstreamer)20:15
vinnljustnsane1, OK, what you could also do is install VLC20:18
SiDijustnsane1: what kind of video is it ?20:20
SiDiquicktime or realplayer, wma with DRM, apple with DRM ?20:20
justnsane1k, vinnl, i will try (dvd+r) when i get home (quicktime)20:21
justnsane1i'll sign in as mikubuntu there20:21
justnsane1see you in an hour, gotta run pick up a fare20:22
SiDiquicktime vid ?20:22
justnsane1yes20:22
SiDiok, let me see what i can do for you20:22
SiDi(and you should ban people from earth for using such a format)20:22
justnsane1sidi, thanx, is very important to me.  soon as i get it ill upload to youtube for the whole world to see this backwards ass country f*$k judge for what he is20:23
SiDihm, i hope he'll be back20:24
SiDivinnl: if you see him back, please tell him to install Wine and then QuicktimeAlternative on wine20:25
vinnlWine? :S20:25
vinnlWouldn't VLC be able to play it? I really dislike using Wine, and I dislike recommending it even more20:26
SiDiyeh20:26
SiDivlc reads anything except quicktime and realplayer as far as i know20:26
SiDi(and drm crap ofc)20:26
vinnl:S20:26
SiDiquicktime is really one of the closest and crappiest formats of the world20:26
vinnlI'd like an example QuickTime file to see if I can play it20:26
SiDii dont have that under hand20:27
SiDiusually its .mov20:27
SiDitry sampe quicktime video on google :D20:27
vinnlHmm, I can play everything at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT142520:31
vinnlAnd that's without Medibuntu20:31
SiDivinnl: sorry webchat down20:39
SiDii can read them all too20:39
SiDibut i cant read some others20:39
SiDiolder quicktime files20:39
SiDisuch as the ones used by the INA (french national video archives)20:39
SiDi(the biggest digital video archive either : the noobs encoded in quicktime instead of ogg/theora)20:39
Pres-GasHey all!20:55
Pres-GasSo, how does the empathy/pidgin for Karmic decision impact xubu?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection20:56
vinnlPres-Gas, not sure if it even has been discussed yet. You might bring it up on the xubuntu-devel mailinglist :)21:00
vinnl!info empathy21:00
ubottuempathy (source: empathy): High-level library and user-interface for Telepathy. In component universe, is optional. Version 2.26.1-1ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 280 kB, installed size 1092 kB21:00
kangarooohello. what will happen if i in xubuntu ill install openbox from synaptic?21:00
vinnlEmpathy doesn't seem to have blocker GNOME dependencies21:01
vinnlkangarooo, you will get another option in the Sessions menu of your login screen to use Openbox21:01
kangaroooaaaah good.. so i can also choose what i want to use right vinnl? and if i dont like i can uninstall and system will be like openbox never been installed right>?21:02
vinnlkangarooo, yep :)21:02
Pres-Gasvinnl, the topic was mentioned in the latest Ubuntu Weekly News 14721:02
vinnl(Well, there might still be some configuration files left afterwards, but those barely take up space)21:03
vinnlPres-Gas, yeah but not for Xubuntu, right?21:03
Pres-GasYep21:03
vinnl"Yep, not for Xubuntu" or "Yep, Xubuntu too"? :P21:03
Pres-GasI was hoping cody-somerville or one of the other team members may chime in here21:03
cody-somervilleWhats the question?21:03
vinnl<Pres-Gas> So, how does the empathy/pidgin for Karmic decision impact xubu?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection21:04
vinnlcody-somerville, see above :)21:04
Pres-GasThe empathy replacing pidgin for Ubu Karmic21:04
Pres-GasLOL21:04
kangarooovinnl, maybe i can also install lxde and all what u said applies to that too?21:04
vinnlThough it's more #xubuntu-devel food :)21:04
Pres-GasMayhap, vinnl21:04
vinnlkangarooo, yep.21:04
vinnlkangarooo, of course, LXDE applications will also be visible in the menu when using Xubuntu21:04
kangaroooWOOHOO im mega monsta now :) ok but when i uninstall LXDE then they wont be in xubuntu.. yes?21:05
vinnlIf you also uninstall those applications, yes :)21:05
cody-somervilleOh21:05
cody-somervillewe'll probably keep pidgin21:05
Pres-Gasw00t, cody-somerville21:05
vinnlcody-somerville, shouldn't that require some more input? :)21:06
Pres-GasI wondered about dependencies with gmome and whatnot21:06
Pres-Gasgnome too21:06
vinnlI can't recall Ubuntu's argumentation, but I can imagine theirs applies to Xubuntu as well21:06
cody-somervillevinnl, AFAIK, no change has been proposed for Xubuntu21:06
cody-somervillevinnl, and the argument for Ubuntu is improved integration with GNOME21:06
vinnlAh21:06
kangarooovinnl, but i have autologin.. xubuntu.. it will still ask witch i want to use on session? or in settings maybe startup i now need to check to ask me about session choosing.. ?21:07
vinnlPres-Gas, apart from Telepathy, I don't think it introduces new GNOME dependencies though, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/empathy21:07
vinnlkangarooo, nope, you'll have to disable autologin21:07
Pres-GasI don't know...I am addicted to finch anyway21:07
kangarooook ok byebye i have lot to try with f****** linux :) thx a lot vinnl h5 :)21:07
Pres-Gas!info finch21:08
ubottufinch (source: pidgin): text-based multi-protocol instant messaging client. In component main, is optional. Version 1:2.5.5-1ubuntu8.1 (jaunty), package size 208 kB, installed size 704 kB21:08
vinnlyw :)21:08
mikubuntuSidi, now i'm on a machine that is basic dvd player, will it render dvd+r whether i have the right packages or not?22:45
SiDioh its you again22:46
mikubuntuyup22:46
SiDimikubuntu: please tell me, you have a file ending with .mov, on a DVD that has been given to you, right ?22:46
mikubuntuyou sound *happy* to see me; or is that a banana in your pocket :)22:47
* SiDi has no bananas in his pockets *.*22:47
SiDihttp://support.apple.com/kb/HT1425 tell me if those few files here work for you22:47
SiDiif they do and if your player still cant read the damn .mov file it means its an old quicktime version that was used, and you'll have to install Quicktime or QuicktimeAlternative for windows via wine22:48
mikubuntui think it's a .ped file, this machine won'\t render the file contents, lemme check out whether i've downloaded everything yet22:48
mikubuntuomg, never used wine22:48
mikubuntulemme go check things out, i just sat down here, and i'll be back22:48
mikubuntu!video22:50
ubottuFor multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats22:50
SiDia .ped ? Oo22:50

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