[00:41] <mdshaw89> Anyone know anything about loading eeexubuntu on an eeepc?  Couldn't find an eeexubuntu channel.
[00:47] <mdshaw89> found one - eeepc
[02:33] <phate> are the gutsy repositorys down?
[02:38] <Vasklevox> Having issues running 9.04 persistant from thumbdrive, can't recall how to access my laptops harddrive.
[02:49] <Vasklevox> 'Ello?
[02:51] <TheSheep> well, sorry to heard that
[02:51] <TheSheep> hear*
[02:51]  * Vasklevox smirks.
[02:51] <Vasklevox> Well atleast someone is awake
[02:52] <TheSheep> normally you ask a question, and if somebody knows the answer, they answer
[02:53]  * Vasklevox nods.
[02:53] <Vasklevox> But of course.
[02:54] <Vasklevox> I just figure'd it'd be a simple question, the last persistant distro I used was a version of mandriva I recall, there was a folder already supplied to access primary drives.
[02:54]  * Vasklevox shrugs.
[02:56] <TheSheep> nah, xubuntu just displays them on your desktop and in the file manager's sidebar
[02:56] <Vasklevox> Yeah, didn't see it anywhere, clicked on just about everything. Figure'd it be right there as well.
[02:57]  * Vasklevox reads up on mount command.
[02:57] <Vasklevox> Benn forever since I've really used linux at all, and even then, it was a short period of time as I was getting back into gaming.
[02:57] <Vasklevox> Damn windows anyway...
[03:05] <Raggs> Vasklevox, amen
[03:05] <Vasklevox> Indeed... Given, not like I'm reallying trying, still running at this very moment.
[03:06] <Vasklevox> Just have an old Alienware Sentia 223 that I wanna get running again, going to need something not to cpu/ram intensive... I.e., no Windows.
[03:06] <Raggs> oh boy
[03:06] <Raggs> get the hdd mounted?
[03:07] <Vasklevox> On this computer, I was trying to run 9.04 from thumbdrive, well, I was infact, just couldn't seem to access the laptops harddrive.
[03:07] <TheSheep> does fdisk -l show it?
[03:08] <Raggs> TheSheep, hiya
[03:08] <Vasklevox> Heh, didn't try than actually... Bah, need to get another computer up and running so I can talk to ya'll and troubleshoot.
[03:09] <Vasklevox> All I wanted to do was find the .txt of the information for the connection I'm on so I could get on the net, then found I couldn't get to the lappies harddrive.
[03:10] <Vasklevox> Man... I think I'ma go dig through my books n' find that Linux Bible or whatever it was called.
[03:11] <Vasklevox> Meh, I'll not bother ya, come back and ask more questions after I've doen more prodding.
[03:12] <Raggs> Vasklevox, no problem, i enjoy the simple stuff
[03:13] <Vasklevox> Heh, but of course. Later Raggs, TheSheep. Be back on the marrow if all it good.
[03:39] <Thundara> Is it a common problem to have the setup just not start when trying to install Xubuntu?
[03:39] <Thundara> Just burned a CD of it, plopped it in the CD tray, and started it the system from CD, but when I go to chosing "Install Xubuntu", the computer just restarts =/
[03:50] <luis_> hola necesito imprimir unas fotos con la fecha y hora impresa en la misma que programa puedo usar?
[03:54] <nintnint> anyone use handbrake?
[03:55] <nintnint> dumb question
[06:11] <jeffce> quick question will i notice a difference between i386 and LPIA on a dell mini 10?
[07:14] <meglo> HEY GUYS
[07:14] <meglo> Is there an xubuntu dev in here
[07:14] <meglo> can you tell me
[07:14] <meglo> what you did to the distro :\
[07:14] <meglo> I thought it was just ubuntu + xfce
[07:15] <meglo> Uhhh, in synaptic did you withhold newer gnome components, because all I'm seeing for the gnome metapackage is 2.22 on 9.04
[07:15] <meglo> I thought it should be 2.26?
[07:17] <meglo> heh
[07:17] <meglo> a lot of the components are 2.26, or 2.24
[07:17] <meglo> err
[07:17] <meglo> haha i dunno who cares
[07:17] <meglo> basically this tiny deb package depends on a lot of gnome stuff argg
[07:19] <maduser> which package?
[07:21] <meglo> 'gnome'
[07:21] <meglo> but i can't find the package gnome-desktop
[07:21] <meglo> or maybe it is ubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <maduser> yeah
[07:21] <meglo> like xubuntu-desktop
[07:21] <meglo> oohhhhh
[07:22] <meglo> if it wasn't for this certain package that decided it would be nifty to include evolution/gnome-panel/etcetc
[07:23] <maduser> ok gnome isn't just a single package
[07:23] <maduser> like KDE
[07:24] <maduser> KDE like Gnome is a system bases on many packages
[07:25] <maduser> gnome is the name of the desktop environment
[07:28] <R1cochet> is there any way to install aptoncd w/out installing nautalus?
[07:29] <maduser> just search for it in synamptic and it only installs the app with libraries
[07:31] <R1cochet> it wants to install gnome-menus, gnome-panel..........., nautilus, metacity...
[07:32] <maduser> hmmm
[07:32] <maduser> when marked for install?
[07:32] <maduser> on mine it doesn't
[07:32] <R1cochet> yea when marked for install
[07:33] <R1cochet> it wants to add around 20 packages
[07:33] <maduser> ah, I have those installed
[07:33] <maduser> then you could get the source and change it
[07:34] <R1cochet> will they interfere w/ xfce environment?
[07:34] <maduser> no
[07:34] <maduser> I have them installed and I don't see them in the menus
[07:34] <R1cochet> id rather not like to install all those extra packages
[07:34] <R1cochet> ok
[07:35] <R1cochet> ty
[07:35] <maduser> you could get a copy of the deb and edit the dependics
[07:35] <maduser> dependencies
[07:35] <maduser> to only the Libraries
[07:35] <R1cochet> hmm surgery
[07:35] <maduser> and honestly its not that much space
[07:36] <R1cochet> not worried about the space just didnt want all that extra stuff
[07:37] <R1cochet> if i were to remove some dependencies will it still run fine?
[07:37] <R1cochet> not sure y it would need all that extra gnome stuff
[07:37] <maduser> apt won't let you
[07:37] <maduser> it probably will
[07:37] <maduser> you will need to edit the deb to not install the extra stuff
[07:38] <maduser> mabe by the non complete removal on sys you could
[07:38] <R1cochet> well i guess if it doesnt run fine i could reinstall through synaptic
[07:39] <R1cochet> ty much
[07:39] <R1cochet> ill look into it
[08:47] <ramrod> is here someon who runs opera10 on jaunty64 with flash?
[08:47] <ramrod> i have sound but no picture
[08:47] <ramrod> exept on the adobe test site with the test animation
[10:08] <kbmaniac> newbe to xubuntu, when I highlight text with the mouse, click drag, I cant paste it with middle click, possible ?
[10:26] <TheSheep> kbmaniac: make sure you didn't close the application from which you selected
[10:28] <kbmaniac> Hi, application still open, example, open mousepad, type, highlight text, middle click mouse, zip
[10:33] <TheSheep> I use the clipboard manager anyways...
[10:35] <kbmaniac> yep I guess I will too, just ctrl-c gives me MS nightmares lol
[11:01] <SiDi> SiDi:  !
[11:01] <SiDi> foo
[11:01]  * SiDi tests his new IRC client
[14:27] <rameshwor> i downloaded a xubuntu iso and burned  but it didn't boot from the cd . what to do ?
[14:46] <spY|da> check bios, boot priority
[17:26] <MTec007> im trying to get compiz working but im having some issues. Ishould start by saying i dont know if my system is compatible or not. http://paste.ubuntu.com/201554/
[17:26] <MTec007> i would like to try and make it work if possible
[17:26] <SiDi> interesting
[17:27] <SiDi> there is a blacklist on their site
[17:27] <MTec007> for my hardware?
[17:27] <SiDi> there is a list of unsupported cards
[17:27] <SiDi> maybe yours is there
[17:28] <SiDi> there is also a way to still launch it (ask in #compiz though, i dont remember it), but if the card is blacklisted it'll likely fail
[17:29] <MTec007> how do i check my hardware? i forget the command to list it
[17:30] <SiDi> lshw
[17:30] <MTec007> thank you
[17:30] <SiDi> or lspci | grep VGA for the GPU
[17:30] <SiDi> (unless its on AGP and not on PCI :p)
[17:30] <MTec007> Laptop
[17:30] <SiDi> if you find the courage for it report a bug for the type in xfwm4's name
[17:31] <SiDi> it'll avoid the fallback procedure to fail on xubuntu
[17:32] <MTec007> i dont see anything that matches up
[17:35] <MTec007> i dont know how to post a decent bug report, last time i tried to do that for firefox they needed more input and i couldnt get more etc
[17:35] <MTec007> i just want to try and run it, see if it will actually run
[17:51] <angelo_> hi
[17:56] <MTec007> how do i restart X from CLI? (9.04)
[18:15] <genii> MTec007: if in single user mode: telinit 2               if multi user mode: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:17] <genii> MTec007: if in single user mode: telinit 2               if multi user mode: sudo /etc/init.d/gdm start
[18:49] <justnsane1> guys i have a dvd sent to me by courthouse it is video of open proceedings, format is dvd+r,  which the dvd drive is supposed to support ... so, how do i get it to play?  i try to open with totem, and nothing happens (it *may* be in quicktime)
[18:50] <TheSheep> !video
[18:51] <justnsane1> dvrexport_2009-05-15_1939.pef appears to be the name of the file
[19:34] <justnsane1> TheSheep: ok, i downloaded the medibuntu repos and all, but on the one page it says '    *        Some external codecs may be needed in order to play certain proprietary formats such as Apple Quicktime or RealVideo
[19:35] <justnsane1> how do i know what codecs?  in synaptic i searched apple quicktime and one of the packages is called 'quicktime-utils' is that what i need?
[19:44] <justnsane1> installed quicktime-utils and still totem won't play this file
[19:50] <justnsane1> nope, i cant get it to play no how no way
[19:51] <vinnl> !quicktime
[19:51] <SiDi> yay
[19:51] <SiDi> i'm sexy
[19:51] <justnsane1> installed medibuntu repos and all that
[19:51] <justnsane1> vinnl: but nothing works yet on this dvd
[19:52] <TheSheep> justnsane1: I think there is a law that requires the court and other public services to use open formats
[19:52] <TheSheep> justnsane1: at least in civilized countries
[19:52] <vinnl> *ignores SiDi* justnsane1, which DVD?
[19:53] <SiDi> justnsane1: once the repository is enabled, please refresh the package list (in update-manager with the refresh button, or with sudo apt-get update)
[19:53] <SiDi> and only then, install libdvdcss2
[19:54] <SiDi> and xubuntu-restricted-extras
[19:57] <justnsane1> TheSheep: its not a civilized country, its the state of georgia
[19:58] <justnsane1> they are dirty and lowdown.  yous can see me @ justice4cori on myspace
[19:58] <justnsane1> i'd love to know if there really is a law requiring open formats here, but i doubt it
[19:59] <justnsane1> vinnl, this is a video of a judge terrorizing my nieces family into signing an unfair plea agreement, against charges for which she is not guilty
[20:00] <vinnl> !dvd
[20:00] <justnsane1> so its a courthouse video, supposedly in dvd+r / quicktime format
[20:00] <vinnl> Hmm
[20:01] <vinnl> justnsane1, what have you done until now to get it to work?
[20:01] <justnsane1> i made an open records request on may 8 for it, gov is supposed to turn these requests around in 72 hours in georgia (see www.gfaf.org ) and i just got it saturday
[20:02] <justnsane1> tried it on various machines, installing all restricted formats etc
[20:02] <vinnl> How did you install the restricted formats?
[20:03] <justnsane1> but obviously not the right ones yet
[20:03] <justnsane1> from the pages you and sheep showed me
[20:04] <vinnl> justnsane1, I entered after TheSheep  linked stuff, what did he link to?
[20:04] <justnsane1> did you say i need to reload the synaptic now?
[20:04] <justnsane1> same restrictedformats page
[20:04] <justnsane1> on ubuntu webstie
[20:04] <justnsane1> website
[20:05] <justnsane1> For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats 	<vinnl>	
[20:05] <SiDi> justnsane1: did you type "sudo apt-get install xubuntu-restricted-extras" ?
[20:05] <SiDi> Thats the list of restricted codecs for xubuntu
[20:05] <SiDi> it should get you to read 95+% of the files
[20:06] <vinnl> justnsane1, you might want to see this page: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Medibuntu
[20:06] <vinnl> And xubuntu-restricted-extras :)
[20:06] <SiDi> (you talked about dvds so i thought it was commercial dvds, which need libdvdcss to crack the copy protection)
[20:14] <justnsane1> yes, already installed restricted extras, libdvdcss2, and the other 32codes package mentioned there
[20:15] <justnsane1> still wont play on movie player or movie player (gstreamer)
[20:18] <vinnl> justnsane1, OK, what you could also do is install VLC
[20:20] <SiDi> justnsane1: what kind of video is it ?
[20:20] <SiDi> quicktime or realplayer, wma with DRM, apple with DRM ?
[20:21] <justnsane1> k, vinnl, i will try (dvd+r) when i get home (quicktime)
[20:21] <justnsane1> i'll sign in as mikubuntu there
[20:22] <justnsane1> see you in an hour, gotta run pick up a fare
[20:22] <SiDi> quicktime vid ?
[20:22] <justnsane1> yes
[20:22] <SiDi> ok, let me see what i can do for you
[20:22] <SiDi> (and you should ban people from earth for using such a format)
[20:23] <justnsane1> sidi, thanx, is very important to me.  soon as i get it ill upload to youtube for the whole world to see this backwards ass country f*$k judge for what he is
[20:24] <SiDi> hm, i hope he'll be back
[20:25] <SiDi> vinnl: if you see him back, please tell him to install Wine and then QuicktimeAlternative on wine
[20:25] <vinnl> Wine? :S
[20:26] <vinnl> Wouldn't VLC be able to play it? I really dislike using Wine, and I dislike recommending it even more
[20:26] <SiDi> yeh
[20:26] <SiDi> vlc reads anything except quicktime and realplayer as far as i know
[20:26] <SiDi> (and drm crap ofc)
[20:26] <vinnl> :S
[20:26] <SiDi> quicktime is really one of the closest and crappiest formats of the world
[20:26] <vinnl> I'd like an example QuickTime file to see if I can play it
[20:27] <SiDi> i dont have that under hand
[20:27] <SiDi> usually its .mov
[20:27] <SiDi> try sampe quicktime video on google :D
[20:31] <vinnl> Hmm, I can play everything at http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1425
[20:31] <vinnl> And that's without Medibuntu
[20:39] <SiDi> vinnl: sorry webchat down
[20:39] <SiDi> i can read them all too
[20:39] <SiDi> but i cant read some others
[20:39] <SiDi> older quicktime files
[20:39] <SiDi> such as the ones used by the INA (french national video archives)
[20:39] <SiDi> (the biggest digital video archive either : the noobs encoded in quicktime instead of ogg/theora)
[20:55] <Pres-Gas> Hey all!
[20:56] <Pres-Gas> So, how does the empathy/pidgin for Karmic decision impact xubu?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection
[21:00] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, not sure if it even has been discussed yet. You might bring it up on the xubuntu-devel mailinglist :)
[21:00] <vinnl> !info empathy
[21:00] <kangarooo> hello. what will happen if i in xubuntu ill install openbox from synaptic?
[21:01] <vinnl> Empathy doesn't seem to have blocker GNOME dependencies
[21:01] <vinnl> kangarooo, you will get another option in the Sessions menu of your login screen to use Openbox
[21:02] <kangarooo> aaaah good.. so i can also choose what i want to use right vinnl? and if i dont like i can uninstall and system will be like openbox never been installed right>?
[21:02] <vinnl> kangarooo, yep :)
[21:02] <Pres-Gas> vinnl, the topic was mentioned in the latest Ubuntu Weekly News 147
[21:03] <vinnl> (Well, there might still be some configuration files left afterwards, but those barely take up space)
[21:03] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, yeah but not for Xubuntu, right?
[21:03] <Pres-Gas> Yep
[21:03] <vinnl> "Yep, not for Xubuntu" or "Yep, Xubuntu too"? :P
[21:03] <Pres-Gas> I was hoping cody-somerville or one of the other team members may chime in here
[21:03] <cody-somerville> Whats the question?
 So, how does the empathy/pidgin for Karmic decision impact xubu?  https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DesktopTeam/Specs/Karmic/MessagingAndCommunicationSelection
[21:04] <vinnl> cody-somerville, see above :)
[21:04] <Pres-Gas> The empathy replacing pidgin for Ubu Karmic
[21:04] <Pres-Gas> LOL
[21:04] <kangarooo> vinnl, maybe i can also install lxde and all what u said applies to that too?
[21:04] <vinnl> Though it's more #xubuntu-devel food :)
[21:04] <Pres-Gas> Mayhap, vinnl
[21:04] <vinnl> kangarooo, yep.
[21:04] <vinnl> kangarooo, of course, LXDE applications will also be visible in the menu when using Xubuntu
[21:05] <kangarooo> WOOHOO im mega monsta now :) ok but when i uninstall LXDE then they wont be in xubuntu.. yes?
[21:05] <vinnl> If you also uninstall those applications, yes :)
[21:05] <cody-somerville> Oh
[21:05] <cody-somerville> we'll probably keep pidgin
[21:05] <Pres-Gas> w00t, cody-somerville
[21:06] <vinnl> cody-somerville, shouldn't that require some more input? :)
[21:06] <Pres-Gas> I wondered about dependencies with gmome and whatnot
[21:06] <Pres-Gas> gnome too
[21:06] <vinnl> I can't recall Ubuntu's argumentation, but I can imagine theirs applies to Xubuntu as well
[21:06] <cody-somerville> vinnl, AFAIK, no change has been proposed for Xubuntu
[21:06] <cody-somerville> vinnl, and the argument for Ubuntu is improved integration with GNOME
[21:06] <vinnl> Ah
[21:07] <kangarooo> vinnl, but i have autologin.. xubuntu.. it will still ask witch i want to use on session? or in settings maybe startup i now need to check to ask me about session choosing.. ?
[21:07] <vinnl> Pres-Gas, apart from Telepathy, I don't think it introduces new GNOME dependencies though, http://packages.ubuntu.com/jaunty/empathy
[21:07] <vinnl> kangarooo, nope, you'll have to disable autologin
[21:07] <Pres-Gas> I don't know...I am addicted to finch anyway
[21:07] <kangarooo> ok ok byebye i have lot to try with f****** linux :) thx a lot vinnl h5 :)
[21:08] <Pres-Gas> !info finch
[21:08] <vinnl> yw :)
[22:45] <mikubuntu> Sidi, now i'm on a machine that is basic dvd player, will it render dvd+r whether i have the right packages or not?
[22:46] <SiDi> oh its you again
[22:46] <mikubuntu> yup
[22:46] <SiDi> mikubuntu: please tell me, you have a file ending with .mov, on a DVD that has been given to you, right ?
[22:47] <mikubuntu> you sound *happy* to see me; or is that a banana in your pocket :)
[22:47]  * SiDi has no bananas in his pockets *.*
[22:47] <SiDi> http://support.apple.com/kb/HT1425 tell me if those few files here work for you
[22:48] <SiDi> if they do and if your player still cant read the damn .mov file it means its an old quicktime version that was used, and you'll have to install Quicktime or QuicktimeAlternative for windows via wine
[22:48] <mikubuntu> i think it's a .ped file, this machine won'\t render the file contents, lemme check out whether i've downloaded everything yet
[22:48] <mikubuntu> omg, never used wine
[22:48] <mikubuntu> lemme go check things out, i just sat down here, and i'll be back
[22:50] <mikubuntu> !video
[22:50] <SiDi> a .ped ? Oo