[02:33] <ubu-noob> To anyone: "Ayatana's goal is to build a set of well researched and defined technologies to help extend, improve and refine the Open Source desktop"
[02:34] <ubu-noob> Does that include having oversight of some of the existing projects and projects in development?
[02:34] <ubu-noob> eg.  the ubuntu-docs team is designing a slideshow that plays during the Ubiquity install
[02:35] <ubu-noob> Would the Ayanta team think of giving assistance, so that the look and feel of the slideshow - which will be the first impression of Ubuntu for many of Karmic's new users - is pleasant, informative, welcoming, and consistent with the rest of Ubuntu?
[02:35] <ubu-noob> ?
[02:43] <ubu-noob> GreySim: we've chatted before.  Would you care to take a crack at the question I posed in the words above?
[08:30] <macvr> SiDi: you forgot to cc the mailing list :P , you mailed me alone ...
[08:42] <SiDi> macvr: ahah epic failure
[08:43] <macvr> SiDi: i think ayatana is the only list that does that!
[08:46] <SiDi> its a launchpad list
[08:46] <SiDi> and yeh i have to add ayatana to recipients each time
[08:46] <SiDi> and i often forget
[08:47] <SiDi> macvr: whats the rationale of update proposals on login ?
[08:50] <macvr> SiDi: i dont get it too... i see the only best use case for the updates that require reboot... added my thoughts to > https://wiki.ubuntu.com/AppCenter/Comments ...
[08:57] <macvr> SiDi: even though i hate to admit it>the removal of the notification icon was a good move,  i'v questioned mpt a lot in Bug #332945 , but it makes me think less of the updates which is a good think for end users , but i'm still not in favour of the pop-unders... :P .. AFAIC users should pay much attention to the updates
[09:02] <macvr> Should NOT^
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[12:28] <SiDi> macvr: ok, now there is one less icon, but if the users are bored by the icons they can do their updates (or remove update-notifier from session boot)
[12:28] <SiDi> now instead they randomly get popups appearing
[12:28] <SiDi> that's imo much much more annoying
[12:29] <SiDi> people will just want to disable update-notifier with that
[12:29] <SiDi> and then they'll likely forget to update
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