[01:13] <EagleSn> cant I add a windows system to grub 2?
[01:49] <ryanpg> anyone experiencing solid black drop shadows with intel and compiz?
[01:54] <VK7HSE> have yet to get a working karmic :(
[01:56] <billybigrigger> why?
[02:15] <VK7HSE> getting a kernel panic with kernel stack is corrupted in: c045b765  I'm attempting to install on a SDHC on my Eee 701SD (I have jaunty desktop on the SSD)
[02:19] <VK7HSE> Gah now grub2 is corrupted!... trying again with a 4th attempt!... :)
[04:07] <KDesk> hi
[04:08] <KDesk> Can I copy the firefox/xulrunner packages from Karmic to Jaunty?
[04:09] <KDesk> to use them in Jaunty I mean.
[04:09] <RAOF> Possibly.  You'd be better off trying to rebuild them in Jaunty, though.
[04:12] <KDesk> RAOF: ok, thanks!
[04:55] <DanaG> hmm, to fix the grub2 thing... should I use a daily image instead?
[04:55] <DanaG> Or can I just ignore the failure to install grub2?
[04:55] <DanaG> I already have grub1 on the thing, so as long as the installer will let me go on, I'll be fine.
[05:00] <billybigrigger> fix what grub 2 thing?
[05:03] <Zorael> LP #385995 I wager
[05:40] <SeveredCross> Has anyone experienced breakage with network-manager-gnome not storing a WEP password correctly?
[05:40] <SeveredCross> I keep entering the hex code, yet it keeps getting changed to 40/128-bit ASCII.
[05:40] <SeveredCross> With the wrong code, no less.
[05:41] <SeveredCross> (I verified this by adding it manually via the connection editor, then closing the editor, reopening it, and seeing that it shows 40/128-bit instead of hex.
[05:41] <SeveredCross> There's an open bug about this in the Plasma widget for KDE, but nothing in n-m-gnome.
[06:10] <SeveredCross> Oh shit, ubiquity crashed. :|
[06:11]  * SeveredCross hopes this installation is complete and reboots.
[06:21] <SeveredCross> Hmm. I seem to have fixed it by not entering my WEP key, but entering the passcode that the key is generated from as the 128-bit Hexadecimal key.
[06:21]  * SeveredCross shrugs.
[06:37] <DanaG> oh hey, if I make a new /boot partition (to be shared between jaunty and karmic), what's a good size for it?  512 megs, or 1 gig?
[06:37] <SeveredCross> I'd say 512 MB is plenty enough.
[06:38] <DanaG> okay, cool.
[06:38]  * SeveredCross doesn't see kernels taking up more than half a gig.
[06:39] <DanaG> It'll be for both Jaunty and Karmic, though.
[06:39] <SeveredCross> Still.
[06:39] <DanaG> Cool.
[06:39] <DanaG> Besides, I have space to spare in front, anyway.
[06:40] <DanaG> So if need be, I can resize it.
[06:40] <RAOF_> And it's just the core kernel, too.  I've run with a 50Mb /boot.
[06:40] <RAOF_> But that was a bit anoying; I couldn't have more than ~10 kernels there.
[06:42] <DanaG> hah, my gpio logic on my hda-intel chip is screwy.
[06:43] <DanaG> It asserts the mute pin any time powersave turns ... off.
[06:43] <DanaG> =P
[06:44] <DanaG> ooh, the new world map (new since when?) in ubiquity rocks.
[06:46] <SeveredCross> I think it's new as of Jaunty.
[06:46] <DanaG> yargh, why is gnome assuming 96dpi, when xdpy shows the correct 147?
[06:47] <DanaG> ah, I upgraded TO jaunty, instead of fresh-installing.  That's why I wasn't sure.
[06:48] <DanaG> Ubiquity is annoying if you have lots of partitions... every time you fiddle with one, it rescans them all.
[06:52] <DanaG> hmm, I wonder if it's possible to keep my passwd synchronized between jaunty and karmic.
[06:52] <SeveredCross> That's actually partman's fault I think.
[06:52] <DanaG> s/wd/word/
[07:11]  * SeveredCross grumbles about stupid dependencieis.
[07:11] <SeveredCross> Why does network-manager have a hard dependency on ppp.
[07:11] <SeveredCross> That should be a recommends, because I don't *use* ppp, and I don't want it installed, but I do use network-manager.
[07:16] <SeveredCross> Dammit, bloody Totem has broken volume handling too.
[07:16]  * SeveredCross grumbles some more.
[08:51] <thomthom> any one home
[08:51] <coz_> thekorn,  not sure   I know I am here :)
[08:52] <thekorn> I'm not
[08:52] <thekorn> ;)
[08:52] <thomthom> are you getting higher than normal cpu usage with compiz?
[08:53] <coz_> thekorn,  sorry
[08:53] <coz_> thomthom,  I meant you
[08:53] <thekorn> no problem
[08:53] <coz_> thomthom,  let me check
[08:54] <coz_> thomthom,  no not here
[08:54] <thomthom> my cores between 20% and 40%
[08:54] <coz_> yikes
[08:54] <coz_> thomthom,  have you updated today?
[08:54] <thomthom> seems to only happen when I load up compiz
[08:55] <coz_> mm
[08:55] <thomthom> yeah
[08:55] <coz_> thomthom,  ok I am on kubuntu right now I assume you are on gnome?
[08:55] <coz_> thomthom,  is t his an upgrade  from 9.04?
[08:55] <thomthom> yeah, gnome
[08:56] <syn-ack> Any idea how much longer till the bug in screen is resloved?
[08:56] <coz_> thomthom,  or is this a clean install?
[08:56] <thomthom> oh, you talking about update from 9.04 to 9.10, no It is clean with all the updates that have been delivered so far
[08:56] <coz_> thomthom,  ok mm
[08:57] <coz_> thomthom,  not sure then... which video card?
[08:57] <thomthom> nvidia 9500gt
[08:57] <coz_> thomthom,  and how are you starting compiz?    in terminal    ps ax | grep compiz
[08:57] <coz_> just the command is all I want to see
[08:57] <syn-ack> rather not screen but screen-profiles...
[08:57] <thomthom> no, compiz fusion icon
[08:58] <coz_> ok
[08:58] <coz_> thomthom,   right click fusion icon    Compiz optionis   tick loose bindings
[08:59] <thomthom> loose binding and indirect bindings are both enabled
[08:59] <DanaG> wow, karmic boots damn fast.
[08:59] <DanaG> Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error.  This probably reflects a bug in the program.  The error was 'BadValue (integer parameter out of range for operation)'.  (Details: serial 1552 error_code 2 request_code 116 minor_code 0)
[08:59] <coz_> thomthom,  not both  only loose bindings
[09:00] <coz_> thomthom,  you have nvidia correct?
[09:00] <thomthom> yeah
[09:00] <coz_> thekorn,  ok then only loose binding
[09:00] <syn-ack> hah
[09:00] <syn-ack> t'was fixed 12 mins ago
[09:00]  * syn-ack goes to update
[09:00] <thomthom> coz: http://pastebin.ca/1470832
[09:00] <coz_> oh :)
[09:01] <coz_> thomthom,  ok mm
[09:01] <thomthom> unchecking indirect didn't help
[09:01] <DanaG> hmm, how do I fix my g-s-d?
[09:01] <coz_> thekorn,  that looks fine
[09:01] <coz_> thomthom,  ok
[09:02] <coz_> thomthom,  then I am not sure  ... it is alpha so ....
[09:02] <thomthom> yeah, I was just wondering if anyone else was experiencing the same issue
[09:02] <coz_> thomthom,  as i said  not here  at least for the moment :)
[09:03] <DanaG> yargh, it worked last time I booted... but doesn't work this time.
[09:04] <DanaG> ** (gnome-settings-daemon:6471): DEBUG: Starting keyboard manager
[09:04] <DanaG> Gdk-ERROR **: The program 'gnome-settings-daemon' received an X Window System error.
[09:04] <syn-ack> How long does it generally take the updated patch to go from a confirmed bug fix to being in the repos?
[09:05] <syn-ack> rather, a fixed-released to the repos...
[09:11] <anachronik_> don't compiz use only graph card resources? also a lot of CPU?
[09:13] <DanaG> okay, I've tracked it down to the "mouse" plugin, quite specifically.
[09:15] <DanaG> I wonder why the mouse thingy would do that.
[09:15] <DanaG> And why the heck is the spellchecker marking 100% of all words wrong?
[09:29]  * DanaG puts laptop in sleep mode.
[09:30] <DanaG> oh, and Nautilus is ignoring my icon theme.
[09:30] <syn-ack> heh
[09:30] <DanaG> ah, had to kill it; it came back with the right theme.
[09:30] <DanaG> I still wonder why the g-s-d mouse plugin crashes the daemon.
[09:34] <DanaG> (WW) AT Translated Set 2 keyboard: unable to handle keycode 425
[09:34] <DanaG> damnit, my hotkeys still won't work, thanks to that.
[09:39] <DanaG> ugh, and my power button is totally ignored.
[09:39] <DanaG> ... by the desktop, I mean.
[10:43] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/aptitude/+bug/391035
[10:44] <dupondje> crappor bug :P
[12:50] <sjokkis> is this a problem only i'm having, or is pulseaudio completely broken in karmic, and has been for about a month?
[12:51] <sjokkis> with the latest version i'm finally no longer getting refused connections, but i'm still not getting audio
[12:54] <dupondje> I have sound
[12:54] <dupondje> but another person in here had also completely no sound :s
[12:55] <dupondje> I installed Alpha 1 a month or so ago
[12:55] <dupondje> then I had no sound
[12:55] <dupondje> installed Jaunty then, and upgraded to Karmic
[12:55] <dupondje> and it was working
[12:55] <dupondje> so :s
[12:57] <sjokkis> very strange
[12:58] <sjokkis> well, i am no longer getting refused connections, so maybe it just needs some fiddling
[12:59] <dupondje> you need to power on your speakers :D
[13:00] <sjokkis> oh yeah
[13:29] <arranna> Why Karmic Koalas UNR daily builds is provided by CD ISO -images and not by USB IMG -images?
[13:29] <sjokkis> why english difficult?
[14:39] <BluesKaj> Hiya folks
[14:49] <tgpraveen> hi BluesKaj
[14:49] <BluesKaj> hi tgpraveen
[15:30] <wd4lko> How can I get grub2 to install all of my OS's ? grub.cfg only has the one I'm using now !
[15:34] <charlie-tca> latest images should be fixed for that
[15:39] <wd4lko> Just did update and looked at grub.cfg and only one listing.
[15:40] <charlie-tca> It would take a new install
[15:40] <charlie-tca> it was brokien in alpha2
[16:11] <nixternal> anyone having issues with 2.6.30-10?
[16:12] <nixternal> I am getting a black screen of death
[16:13] <nixternal> I have mass encryption, so I enter my password 3 times, the first 2 are fine, and then after the 2nd, it goes to a black screen, ie screen is off...I can enter my 3rd encryption password and it boots, but it boots to a garbled tty
[16:13] <nixternal> i notice when I boot in recovery mode, after the 2nd password, the vga size is much smaller, ie. vga=791 or such..I have tried booting vga=normal and nofb without any luck
[16:14] <billybigrigger> 30-9 just came to my updates a few days ago
[16:15] <nixternal> 2.6.30-10.12 is what I just upgraded to
[16:16] <billybigrigger> through updates?
[16:17] <nixternal> billybigrigger: yes
[16:18] <billybigrigger> hmm
[16:18] <billybigrigger> dunno, i just updated still 30-9
[16:18] <billybigrigger> don't know what to tell ya :P
[16:18] <nixternal> ya, trying to find out from the kernel peeps now
[16:19] <yofel_> 30-10 came out yesterday iirc and the meta-packages were updated today
[16:20] <billybigrigger> linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[16:20] <billybigrigger> seems they are being held back for me
[16:20] <nixternal> looks like it could be a framebuffer issue
[16:20] <albert23> nixternal: KMS was switched on for intel
[16:20] <nixternal> billybigrigger: I dist-upgrade like an insane mofo :)
[16:20] <billybigrigger> hehe
[16:20] <nixternal> not of that safe upgrade crap
[16:21] <nixternal> i like to cry every now and then :)
[16:21] <albert23> nixternal: you can test if kms is the problem by adding i915.modeset=0 on the boot line
[16:21] <nixternal> albert23: groovy, I will do that right now....
[16:21] <nixternal> let me bump over to the desktop here
[16:22] <nixternal> here we go
[16:22] <nixternal> hrmm, said it was ignoring that i915.modeset
[16:22] <albert23> that's ok
[16:23] <nixternal> albert23: you got it bud, it is kms
[16:23] <nixternal> right as you said that, the kernel peeps brought up the same thing :)
[16:26] <nixternal> albert23: issue is that KMS doesn't work with PAE yet
[16:26] <albert23> ah -server kernel
[16:27] <nixternal> no, -generic actually
[16:27] <albert23> hmm, when did that get PAE?
[16:28] <nixternal> hrmm, I think they got it without knowing it because they said it only happens with -server when people are running dekstop
[16:29] <albert23> nixternal: check if HIGHMEM64G is set in /boot/config-2.6.30-10-generic
[16:29] <albert23> That is what actually disables gem
[16:31] <nixternal> albert23: it isn't in there
[16:33] <albert23> then you don't have PAE
[16:33] <nixternal> looks like xorg isn't in sync
[16:34] <albert23> nixternal: X didn't start at all?
[16:34] <nixternal> it died before x actually
[16:35] <albert23> which card do you have?
[16:35] <nixternal> intel gma950/965
[16:37] <albert23> nixternal: whith gma950 or older width larger the 2048 can cause trouble. With 965 that should still work
[16:39] <albert23> nixternal: does grep fake /var/log/Xorg.0.log return something?
[16:41] <Sarvatt> do you have a dmesg from the boot nixternal?
[16:42] <nixternal> albert23: returns nothing
[16:42] <nixternal> Sarvatt: it is an issue with xorg not being in sync right now with the kernel
[16:45] <Sarvatt> well I'd like to say otherwise and think its more probably related to the initramfs-tools update just now that puts intel_agp and i915 into the initrd but the drm needs to be loaded before i915, but i'd need to see the dmesg to verify that :)
[16:47] <nixternal> well, initramfs-tools just updated...like right now I did an upgrade and initramfs-tools was in it
[16:47] <nixternal> let me test that
[16:47] <BluesKaj> yup, saw that as well
[16:48] <nixternal> I didn't have the new initramfs when I witnessed the problem
[16:48] <nixternal> oh boy
[16:48] <nixternal> Sarvatt: you mgiht be on to something here
[16:48] <nixternal> yup
[16:49] <nixternal> Sarvatt: it is working again
[16:49] <nixternal> man, usplash is very small
[16:49] <Sarvatt> did you change something or just rebooted?
[16:49] <nixternal> just rebooted
[16:49] <Sarvatt> ah ok
[16:50] <nixternal> d'oh
[16:50] <nixternal> I spoke to soon
[16:50] <Sarvatt> glxinfo | grep "OpenGL renderer"
[16:51] <Sarvatt> does it say software rasterizer?
[16:51] <nixternal> can't do that :)
[16:51] <nixternal> no x
[16:51] <Sarvatt> any way you can get the dmesg off it?
[16:51] <nixternal> nothing, had to go back and do the i915.modeline thing
[16:52] <Sarvatt> I'll just reboot to see if i have the same problem on the ubuntu kernel too
[16:56] <nixternal> guessing Sarvatt had the same problem
[16:57] <billybigrigger> heh
[16:59] <albert23> well, kms with standard karmic kernel works fine here
[17:01] <Sarvatt> nixternal: ah its not that, works fine here
[17:01] <Sarvatt> try booting with nomodeset added to the kernel options
[17:02] <nixternal> Sarvatt: k, I did the glxinfo line and it does return software rasterizer
[17:02] <Sarvatt> drm open failures in your /var/log/Xorg.0.log?
[17:03] <nixternal> yes
[17:05] <albert23> nixternal: can you try and boot with kms, but without usplash?
[17:05] <nixternal> albert23: trying that right now
[17:06] <nixternal> albert23: doesn't work
[17:06] <Sarvatt> are you forcing anything in /etc/initramfs-tools/modules or booting with i915.modeset=1 for some reason by any chance?
[17:06] <nixternal> nope
[17:08] <nixternal> if there is soemthing in there, I didn't force it..I will take a look here ina  second
[17:08] <Sarvatt> dmesg and Xorg.0.log would help alot
[17:08] <nixternal> by setting nomodeset during boot, it starts up just fine
[17:08] <nixternal> well, at least it gets to KDM
[17:08] <nixternal> and compositing works now
[17:09] <nixternal> Sarvatt: nothing is set in modules
[17:10] <nixternal> if I edit grub at boot and set 'nomodeset' it works perfectly
[17:20] <thomthom> top reports xorg has high cpu usage with compiz enabled, though it was compiz but turns out it is xorg.
[17:38] <tgpraveen> !360905
[17:39] <tgpraveen> bug no. 360905
[17:40] <billybigrigger> whats bug 360905
[17:40] <billybigrigger> :P
[17:44] <SKB> does anyone have any ideas how to get back my keyboard and mouse input when xorg starts ? I guess it is hal problem :|
[17:47] <DanaG> oh hey, is there any easy way to get grub2 to embed in a partition?
[17:47] <DanaG> I realized that legacy grub won't deal well with multiple OSes trying to update-grub in the same partition.
[17:50] <DanaG> And why does grub-pc conflict with grub-efi?  They should be able to both install at the same time, as Fedora does.
[17:58] <dupondje> 2.6.30-10 broken ?
[17:58] <dupondje> it doesn't boot here it seems :s
[18:06] <Sarvatt> dupondje: intel graphics and no /etc/X11/xorg.conf file by any chance? :D
[18:14] <Joelio> Hi all, just installed Karmic mini, but I'm getting 'sleep: invalid number '0.1'' upon booting.. any ideas?
[18:15] <Joelio> also the UUID's a screwed
[18:15] <Joelio> withing grub.cfg, had to use /dev/sda1 for root for th time being
[18:22] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: still having boot problems?
[18:22] <timing> is netbook remix daily build still broken?
[18:23] <billybigrigger> didnt know there was an unr daily build for karmic
[18:25] <timing> o it's a jaunty daily image
[18:25] <timing> never mind then :-)
[18:28] <billybigrigger> :P
[18:30] <Twigathy> oops, too many kernel updates -- no space on /boot >_>
[18:30] <Twigathy> (It's only a 100M partition for me c_c)
[18:30] <billybigrigger> heh
[18:31] <billybigrigger> SKB::: you still looking for some help with your keyboard/mouse input?
[18:31] <SKB> yea
[18:31] <billybigrigger> http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1193406
[18:31] <SKB> that's my thread :P
[18:31] <billybigrigger> oh hah i didn't read it
[18:42] <SeveredCross> Anyone noticed that Totem likes to set the main PulseAudio volume?
[18:44] <m_tadeu> hi everyone....what should I install to get hotmail e-mails?
[18:44] <billybigrigger> m_tadeu::: any web browser?
[18:44] <m_tadeu> billybigrigger: naaa....with a mail client
[18:45] <m_tadeu> I used to use hotway or something like that....but I don't seem to find it on the repos
[18:45] <SeveredCross> Thunderbird?
[18:45] <dupondje> Sarvatt: can't find root :s
[18:45] <billybigrigger> yeah thunderbird will read it
[18:45] <billybigrigger> just need to find out hotmail's pop3 server
[18:46] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: grub?
[18:46] <dupondje> grub2
[18:47] <m_tadeu> I'm using kmail, so that's why I was looking for something like hotway
[18:47] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: did you just update to grub2?
[18:47] <dupondje> no been grub2 for a week now
[18:47] <billybigrigger> or is this after karmic updates?
[18:47] <dupondje> 2.6.30-9 boots perfect
[18:47] <dupondje> 2.6.30-10 doesn't boot
[18:47] <billybigrigger> does it spit a grub error?
[18:48] <billybigrigger> can you pastebin something or is it on the pc your using?
[18:48] <dupondje> its the pc i'm using :)
[18:49] <billybigrigger> do you remember the error?
[18:49] <dupondje> getting same errors as Joelio  pasted
[18:49] <dupondje> sleep: invalid number '0.1'
[18:49] <billybigrigger> have you looked at the boot line?
[18:49] <billybigrigger> does anything look out of place?
[18:49] <dupondje> its the same as -9 kernel which boots
[18:49] <dupondje> so its correct :s
[18:50] <billybigrigger> hmm
[18:50] <billybigrigger> seems to be a few 30-10 errors today :P
[18:51] <dupondje> yep :( sux
[18:54] <ripps> I just woke, booted into Karmic, and now my Wacom Graphire 3 doesn't work. I use it as my mouse, is anybody else having trouble?
[18:55] <billybigrigger> skb was
[18:55] <ripps> xorg.0.log has this: Wacom Graphire3 Wacom X driver can't grab event device, errno=16
[18:56] <SeveredCross> Jesus christ, WTF, why is everything skipping.
[18:57] <SeveredCross> VLC skips, Totem fucks the sound up.
[18:57]  * SeveredCross grumbles.
[18:57] <billybigrigger> hehe
[18:57] <billybigrigger> vlc is fine here
[19:00] <ripps> billybigrigger: did skb fix it?
[19:00] <billybigrigger> no
[19:00] <billybigrigger> he had kb/mouse input problems
[19:00] <billybigrigger> and he left
[19:00] <billybigrigger> so i dunno hehe
[19:00] <ripps> Well, there appears to be a new kernel to update, maybe that will fix it.
[19:01] <dupondje> the new kernel is borked :P
[19:02] <billybigrigger> how are you guys updating?
[19:02] <billybigrigger> 30-10 is being held back for me
[19:02] <dupondje> not here :p
[19:03] <dupondje> i386 ?
[19:04] <ripps> Nothing was held back in my Update queue
[19:04] <billybigrigger> Linux cabo 2.6.30-9-generic #10-Ubuntu SMP Fri Jun 12 13:08:18 UTC 2009 x86_64 GNU/Linux
[19:04] <dupondje> weird
[19:05] <dupondje> remade the initramfs
[19:05] <dupondje> lets reboot :x
[19:05] <ripps> Of course, I did partial upgrade yesterday, that removed several mono components, but it seems they were replaced with different packages, nothing seems to be broken with it though.
[19:08] <billybigrigger> 32bit or 64bit?
[19:08] <billybigrigger> linux-generic
[19:08] <billybigrigger>   linux-headers-generic linux-image-generic
[19:08] <billybigrigger> those are being held back on my 64bit machine
[19:17] <dupondje> outch !
[19:17] <billybigrigger> ?
[19:17] <Mike_lifeguard> I see Karmic is going to use ext4 by default. However, I recall there were some issues - I'm just wondering if they've been fixed. One was losing data in gnome's hidden files due to delayed allocation. Another was hangs while deleting large files. And the last was the online defrag wasn't written yet.
[19:17] <dupondje> billybigrigger: not kernel broken
[19:17] <dupondje> initramfs-tools is
[19:17] <billybigrigger> ahhh
[19:19] <dupondje> where does that 'sleep: invalid number '0.1''
[19:19] <dupondje> come from ?
[19:21] <billybigrigger> i don't know :P
[19:25] <Sarvatt> online defrag is written and working now Mike_lifeguard
[19:26] <Sarvatt> its in linus' master branch and will be in 2.6.31-rc1 in a few days
[19:26]  * Mike_lifeguard checks it off
[19:26] <SwedeMike> though that is the kind of feature I'd recommend to not use until it's been shown to be fully mature
[19:26] <SwedeMike> I don't trust new filesystems
[19:26] <Mike_lifeguard> which I guess they'll backport to .30
[19:27] <Sarvatt> nope, that'd be too big a feature for a stable release update..
[19:28] <Sarvatt> i just defragged 790k files with it, worked good for me at least
[19:28] <Mike_lifeguard> but Karmic isn't released yet
[19:28] <Sarvatt> yeah 2.6.31 is going to be in karmic, no worries there
[19:28] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, I thought it was .30 for karmic
[19:29] <Mike_lifeguard> ...according to https://wiki.ubuntu.com/KarmicKoala/TechnicalOverview#Linux%20kernel%202.6.30
[19:30] <Mike_lifeguard> in fact, it's apparently based on 2.6.30-rc5 not the final release? O.o
[19:30] <Mike_lifeguard> oh, this is alpha 2
[19:38] <dupondje> outch :P
[19:38] <BUGabundo> Bom S. João para tds, e cuidado com as espinhas :))
[19:39] <dupondje> come on
[19:40] <dupondje> # Automatically generated make config: don't edit
[19:40] <dupondje> # Busybox version: 1.13.3
[19:40] <dupondje> who/what generates this ? ;)
[19:40] <billybigrigger> is that your grub.cfg?
[19:40] <dupondje> nooo
[19:40] <dupondje> busybox-1.13.3/debian/config/deb
[19:40] <billybigrigger> oh, thought you were still on your boot problem
[19:41] <dupondje> yep
[19:41] <dupondje> i'm still on it
[19:41] <dupondje> its a mistake
[19:41] <dupondje> in the busybox make config
[19:42] <syn-ack> Good morning, kids. :D
[19:45] <BUGabundo> good afternoon dady syn-ack
[19:45] <BUGabundo> :)
[19:48] <syn-ack> thats right, represent, I am yo daddy. :P
[19:48]  * syn-ack runs
[19:48] <syn-ack> w00t. Got the new version of screen downloaded.
[19:50] <BUGabundo> so mono updates broke gnome-do??
[19:51]  * BUGabundo looks at IDCard and then takes a peak at syn-ack acne bubbles
[19:51] <Joelio> is there a problem with evolution in Karmic? I'm getting a libc error..
[19:51] <BUGabundo> anyone elese lossing the cursor on input boxes?
[19:51] <dupondje> building new version of busybox
[19:52] <dupondje> if it works, i'm going to put it on my ppa
[19:52] <dupondje> until its fixed
[19:52] <zaccour> will the alpha release installation erase my firefox bookmarks?
[19:53] <dupondje> LOL
[19:53] <dupondje> why would it ?
[19:53] <zaccour> dupondje, i dunno, didn't know?
[19:53] <BUGabundo> zaccour: only if you formart
[19:53] <BUGabundo> plus BACKUPS  BACKUPS BACKUPS
[19:54] <BUGabundo> brb
[19:54] <BUGabundo> need to restart pidgin
[19:54] <BUGabundo> sucks tnot be able to see what you are writing
[19:54] <zaccour> i think i wanna install it and ride into the final release
[19:54] <zaccour> speaking of pidgin, i found the fix
[19:54] <zaccour> the yahoo fix i meant
[19:54] <BUGabundo> !ping
[19:55] <BUGabundo> still the same... strange
[19:59] <zaccour> how do i change my sound settings back to default?
[20:03] <BUGabundo> err
[20:03] <BUGabundo> how are they now?
[20:04] <dupondje> lets reboot :P
[20:07] <billybigrigger> wierd, i updated from 9.04 - 9.10 on a vbox install and i get a 30-10 kernel, but still -09 on my machine
[20:08] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: so now i will be able to help you maybe :P
[20:08] <dupondje> :p
[20:08] <dupondje> I know where the problem is
[20:08] <dupondje> its busybox
[20:12] <billybigrigger> heh
[20:12] <billybigrigger> i get a different error
[20:13] <billybigrigger> error: unkown command 'initrd'
[20:13] <billybigrigger> :P
[20:28] <shadeslayer> was plymouth introduced recently?
[20:28] <shadeslayer> in the recent updates?
[20:29] <billybigrigger> i thought plymouth was dropped
[20:29] <shadeslayer> billybigrigger: really?
[20:29] <Pici> I thought it was dropped as well.
[20:29] <SeveredCross> Ditto.
[20:29] <billybigrigger> i think they dropped it because the dev's want their 10s boot :P
[20:29] <shadeslayer> hmm...ok
[20:29] <shadeslayer> thats nice :)
[20:30]  * shadeslayer likes the way the devs think
[20:31] <shadeslayer> i asked because i noticed a new entry for plymouth in kde-look.org
[20:31] <Pici> kde-look isn't just ubuntu.
[20:31] <shadeslayer> Pici: no i mean an entirely new entrt
[20:31] <shadeslayer> *entry
[20:31] <Pici> shadeslayer: So?
[20:32] <shadeslayer> Pici: so i thought maybe plymouth was introduced,but as you guys tell me that it will be dropped ill leave
[20:33] <billybigrigger> haha
[20:36] <billybigrigger> anyone having a "unkown command 'initrd'" problem with grub?
[20:36] <billybigrigger> http://imagebin.ca/view/eCL6fVac.html
[20:36] <dupondje> billybigrigger:
[20:37] <dupondje> root=UUID=
[20:37] <dupondje> ;)
[20:37] <billybigrigger> yeah tried removing root=
[20:37] <billybigrigger> tried removing the search line too
[20:37] <billybigrigger> still same error
[20:37] <dupondje> weird
[20:37] <dupondje> brb
[20:37] <dupondje> reboot
[20:37] <billybigrigger> my best guess is that updating from 9.04-9.10 screwed up my UUID
[20:40] <dupondje> mmmm
[20:40] <dupondje> booting problem fixed :P
[20:42] <dupondje> bleh
[20:42] <dupondje> now I need somebody to get the fix released :p
[20:45] <billybigrigger> hmm
[20:45]  * Ng wonders what's up with mono in karmic atm
[20:50] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/391299
[20:50] <dupondje> the bug :p
[20:51] <dupondje> maby put in topic ? As everybody will have this issue :s
[20:56] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: so you've fixed the sleep invalid number 0.1?
[20:56] <billybigrigger> someone is asking for help on it, and i'd like to know if i can point them to your bug
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Shouldn't the title of it be something like "sleep invalid number 0.1 in Karmic"?
[20:58] <charlie-tca> Then anyone with it will find it right away
[21:05] <BUGabundo> hey charlie-tca [[[[]]]
[21:06] <charlie-tca> hey, BUGabundo
[21:09] <dupondje> billybigrigger: yes its fixed
[21:09] <billybigrigger> k
[21:09] <dupondje> give my ppa
[21:09] <billybigrigger> fixed my problem as well
[21:09] <dupondje> it will update busybox-initramfs :)
[21:10] <dupondje> and then just update-initramfs -uk all
[21:10] <dupondje> :)
[21:10] <billybigrigger> need to remove the search line and run insmod linux, then she'll boot fine
[21:12] <billybigrigger> dupondje::: k, ill let him know and add that to my grub 2 wiki page :P
[21:27] <ripps> Okay, I managed to fix my wacom issue by removing the wacom module, and then unplugging and replugging my tablet. This means it might be some kind of timing issue of when the module is loaded
[22:05] <dupondje> dtchen: maby put my ppa into the topic, I made fix for busybox
[22:05] <dupondje> or get the fix released ofc :p
[22:06] <dupondje> see bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/391299
[22:22] <dupondje> dtchen: ?
[22:25] <dupondje> djsiegel1: I'm working on the https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/bugs/57210 bug, how should I set the status of it ? I made a patch and posted it upstream, it only needs to get reviewed by gnome developpers, and then it should prolly get commited into their repo
[22:26] <djsiegel1> dupondje: awesome, just make sure you follow up on it in case they need changes made
[22:26] <djsiegel1> (I am sure you knew that)
[22:26] <djsiegel1> dupondje: and mark it committed when upstream accepts :)
[22:27] <dupondje> well first patch had some missing things :) I updated it today, and it works perfectly, so :)
[22:45] <Sarvatt> i dont have any problem with it on the 6 machines i've put it on so far...
[22:46] <dupondje> with what ? :)
[22:47] <Sarvatt> busybox and/or the kernel being unbootable
[22:48] <BUGabundo> Sarvatt: using intel gpus?
[22:48] <Sarvatt> just on one
[22:48] <Sarvatt> nvidia and sis in the others
[22:49] <dupondje> Sarvatt: weird, anyway its a bug, cause sleep 0.1 is used alot, and the current busybox doesn't support that
[22:49] <dupondje> so there is no pause
[22:49] <dupondje> but ofc, if the pause wasn't needed, it works in some cases