/srv/irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/23/#ubuntu.txt

helmethedd	8.04 to 8.10	00:00
nai	and wich one should i install if i want a basic gnome but with nice fonts? (no gdm, no evolution, no ekiga...)	00:00
kev2121	deany, why #kubuntu?	00:00
deany	kev2121, hmm, well I thought it was	00:00
deany	kev2121, maybe not then. kernel and basic hardware support is the same, the rest are kde apps....	00:01
VCoolio	nai: check in synaptic or by "aptitude show packagename"; you'll need at least gnome and gnome-core I think but probably they depend on each other; gdm is the login window, are you sure you don't want that?	00:01
bishop	Hh why not upgrade to 9?	00:01
cabrey	bishop, depends on your hardware really	00:02
usr13	helmethedd: http://www.howtoforge.com/how-to-upgrade-ubuntu-8.04-to-ubuntu-8.10-desktop-and-server	00:02
bishop	cabrey yep	00:02
usr13	helmethedd: But the easiest way is to get the Alternate CD and just upgrade from it.	00:02
shunobies	Could someone tell me how to find your ip address in the terminal setting?	00:02
psych	hi, whats the best command to copy an entire partition to another disk ?	00:03
deany	kev2121, there are some good kde apps tho, put some of the ubuntu ones to shame.. lets not mention brasero compared to k3b..	00:03
usr13	shunobies: ifconfig	00:03
cabrey	shunobies, ifconfig	00:03
psych	i planned to do it using a live cd	00:03
deany	kev2121, brasero is a joke.	00:03
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psych	once clonezilla dont work good with logical partitions	00:03
cabrey	deany, brasero is fine, it works what else do you want?	00:03
kev2121	deany, I see..	00:03
LewisSharp	Small question. How safe is it to upgrade a linux version (example to 8.0.4 LTS). I am wondering because if it's not safe, I'd need to do a ghost of my main partition or something close to that in case of a major problem.	00:03
deany	cabrey, for you maybe	00:03
VCoolio	nai: gnome-desktop-environment contains all the extra apps , including web browsing, email, CD burning and ripping, encryption tools, audio and video playback, network and communication tools, document viewers, remote desktop utilities, and much more.	00:04
deany	cabrey, I and at least 5 other people I know it dont	00:04
nai	ouch	00:04
nai	i don't want anything of that	00:04
kev2121	deany, so, apps do not have the same name?	00:04
nai	(that's why i installed the minimal version so i can only install what i need now)	00:04
usr13	LewisSharp: You're in a good place actually, 8.04 is LTS and, well, that's a pretty good place to stay.	00:04
LewisSharp	no, I mean to that version. I'm a few version down actually	00:05
LewisSharp	I'm not 100% sure which version I am at right now	00:05
usr13	LewisSharp: Oh, upgrading TO 8.04 sorry... I didn't read carefully.	00:05
LewisSharp	:)	00:05
cabrey	deany, whatever, i'm not getting into a debate over burning software of all things	00:05
deany	cabrey, and brasero has less features.. It might work for you, thats great.	00:05
cabrey	;)	00:05
hipitihop	can someone please help me put grub on an usb attached drive, I have copied the boot (ext3) extended and swap from another drive already	00:05
deany	cabrey, even shell tools work better	00:05
VCoolio	nai: you need gnome-core then	00:05
usr13	LewisSharp: lsb_release -a	00:06
VCoolio	nai: run "aptitude show gnome-core" to see what it contains	00:06
nztal	my dvd burner, doesn't have burnproof technology, it has some other similar technology so that option is greyed out when i right click "write iso" to disc. any chance its being utilized ?	00:06
nai	VCoolio: nice, thanks	00:07
usr13	!usb \| hipitihop	00:07
ubottu	hipitihop: For information about installing Ubuntu from USB flash drives, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/FromUSBStick - For a persistent live USB install, see: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/LiveUsbPendrivePersistent	00:07
LewisSharp	hum.. Ubuntu 6.06.2 LTS	00:07
hipitihop	usr13: reading, thanks	00:07
VCoolio	nai: sorry, I doubt that as it seems I don't have it installed while running gnome ?? check again	00:08
nai	VCoolio already installing gnome-core	00:09
nai	let's see how it goes	00:09
laeg	is there a way to make sudo apt-get show me everything libgtk*?	00:09
shunobies	I can't view my routers admin page in browser because it will only work on Internet Explorer not FF what should i do?	00:10
VCoolio	nai: I think you'll need (one of) the libgnome packages if you only want gnome itself; anyway uninstall gnome-core and run "sudo apt-get autoremove" and you're back where you started	00:10
tpcnf	How do I ignore parts/joins/quits in Pidgin?	00:12
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Kr0ntab	greets	00:12
Kr0ntab	the freenode webchat is interesting...	00:13
bishop	leaving...baklatr	00:14
coolkourt	hello, i lost my windows in compiz fhingusion.. any idea or links to get them back. i cant move,close, minimize or anyt	00:15
rww	tpcnf: In the buddy list window, Tools > Plugins > check Join/Part Hiding	00:16
laeg	can anyone tell me what the GTK+ 2.0 dev headers package is called?	00:16
cabrey	laeg, libgtk2.0-dev i believe	00:17
cabrey	laeg, but apt-cache search works too	00:17
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tpcnf	Thankya!	00:17
Nanaki	hey everyone hows it goin	00:17
magcius	!pinhg	00:18
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about pinhg	00:18
Nanaki	i cant find compiz icon to select it..where would it be?	00:18
cabrey	Nanaki, what do you want?	00:18
Nanaki	im running jaunty right now	00:18
Nanaki	i want to find compiz	00:18
hipitihop	usr13: your links refer to using syslinux not grub. maybe some clarification is needed, I have a fully working usb flash stick with full ubuntu installation on it that works. I have copied the partions from the stick to a new usb HDD. I just want to setup the new usb attach hdd with grub	00:19
coolkourt	how do i set up a local web testing server	00:19
laeg	cabrey: "Sorry, try again.	00:19
laeg	"	00:19
cabrey	laeg, sudo aptitude install libgtk2.0-dev	00:19
laeg	cabrey: not apt-get?	00:20
rww	coolkourt: That depends on which web server you want to test. For Apache, install the "apache2" package (see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ApacheMySQLPHP#Installing%20Apache%202 )	00:20
Nanaki	it shows compiz is installed but there is no icon under anything to run it.	00:20
cabrey	laeg, it's listed in the repo as libgtk2.0-dev and yes try aptitude	00:20
kthyon	plEACE SPEAK IN SPANISH	00:20
rww	Nanaki: System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects	00:20
rww	!es \| kthyon	00:20
ubottu	kthyon: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	00:20
rww	!ccsm \| Nanaki: also, try ccsm	00:21
ubottu	Nanaki: also, try ccsm: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion	00:21
laeg	cabrey: difference between aptitude and apt-get?	00:21
cabrey	laeg, debian recommends aptitude ;)	00:21
kthyon	UBOTTU	00:22
kthyon	AYUDAME	00:22
coolkourt	ty rww	00:22
rww	laeg: not much. apt-get install foo and aptitude install foo are pretty much interchangable these days	00:22
Gnea	!caps \| kthyon	00:22
ubottu	kthyon: PLEASE DON'T SHOUT! We can read lowercase too.	00:22
VCoolio	what is the command to upgrade a single package instead of all possible with apt-get upgrade?	00:22
rww	VCoolio: sudo apt-get install packagename	00:22
cabrey	^	00:22
laeg	cabrey, rww: kk :)	00:22
rww	VCoolio: if the package is already installed, it upgrades it to the latest version	00:23
hipitihop	VCoolio: I think if you just do 'sudo apt-get install <packagename>'	00:23
VCoolio	ok, thx, didn't think of that	00:23
rww	kthyon: type /join #ubuntu-es	00:23
hipitihop	can someone please point me at simple instructions to install grub on to my usb attached HDD	00:24
helmethedd	i still can't seem to upgrade	00:25
helmethedd	i've tried the disk	00:25
helmethedd	i've tried the update manager	00:25
kthyon	tnks	00:25
jrib	helmethedd: you need to explain exactly what you did and how it failed	00:25
helmethedd	i really could use some help	00:25
rww	helmethedd: specifically what happens when you try them?	00:25
helmethedd	first: update manager only downloads part of the files, then gives an error about not being able to get the rest	00:26
helmethedd	2nd: disk gives 3 options...	00:26
helmethedd	reboot now, reboot later, or help me reboot from cd	00:27
helmethedd	i select helpme reboot from cd	00:27
helmethedd	so it goes thru some extraction for a bit	00:27
helmethedd	then...it sits	00:27
helmethedd	no reboot	00:27
helmethedd	so, i reboot it myself thinkin its waiting for me	00:27
helmethedd	and nothing	00:28
helmethedd	i tried going into bios to select boot from cd, by hitting esc to bring up the menu, no CD option	00:28
JasonosaJ	helmethedd, you either need to use paste.ubuntu.com or put your entire thought on one/two lines. It makes it much easier to follow what you are trying to say.	00:29
laeg	cabrey, rww: XScreenSaver extension development headers not found. :(	00:29
helmethedd	noted	00:29
cabrey	laeg, what are you compiling?	00:30
tagalong	is there a channel dedicated to game servers for ubuntu?	00:30
cabrey	laeg, theres an easier way to go about this	00:30
helmethedd	so.....what do i do?	00:30
false	Got a question; Anyone using Intel GMA 45000MHD gfx, and able to tell me how they're working in Ubuntu? I just a new laptop trying to anticipate what troubles I'm going to have installing Ubuntu completely, if any.	00:30
NauTiluS1	ubuntu en español?	00:30
rww	!es \| NauTiluS1	00:30
ubottu	NauTiluS1: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	00:30
false	working in Jaunty*	00:30
NauTiluS1	;)	00:30
rww	laeg: try libxcb-screensaver0-dev	00:30
laeg	rww: using, sudo apt-get build-dep pidgin	00:31
laeg	ty :)	00:31
laeg	cabrey: see above :)	00:31
rww	laegL: that probably would work better, yeah :)	00:31
progre55	hi people! I'm really sorry for an irrelevant question, but the #winehq guys are sleeping.. I have this problem.. while playing CS on linux, after I play a little, the game gets slower and slower, even restarting the CS wont help. I always need to restart my comp. any suggestions, please?	00:31
cabrey	laeg, thats what i was gonna suggest	00:31
cabrey	laeg, use checkinstall also	00:31
cabrey	!checkinstall \| laeg	00:31
ubottu	laeg: checkinstall is a wrapper to "make install", useful for installing programs you compiled. It will create a .deb package, which will be listed in the APT database and can be uninstalled like other packages. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CheckInstall - Read the warnings at the top and bottom of that web page, and DO NOT interrupt CheckInstall while it's running!	00:31
helmethedd	can i get some assistance with upgrading?	00:31
Jeruvy	progre55: sounds like it could be a memory leak, try monitoring it with top (or some such tool)	00:32
false	Got a question; Anyone using Intel GMA 45000MHD gfx, and able to tell me how they're working in Jaunty? I just a new laptop trying to anticipate what troubles I'm going to have installing Ubuntu completely, if any.	00:32
Jeruvy	!upgrade \| helmethedd	00:33
ubottu	helmethedd: For upgrading, see the instructions at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UpgradeNotes - see also http://www.ubuntu.com/getubuntu/upgrading	00:33
laeg	cabrey: i'm actually compiling it to make uninstall	00:33
laeg	cabrey: months ago i installed source pidgin, since my upgrade today to 9.04 it stopped working so i tried to install the new synaptic version but when i do pidgin in terminal it takes me to usr/local apparently	00:33
progre55	Jeruvy, you mean, run top while playing? and what would I do next? )	00:33
IRC-Monitor-814	cod4?	00:33
IRC-Monitor-814	is this cod4 ?	00:33
IRC-Monitor-814	;D;D;D;D;;D;D	00:33
Gnea	!ubuntu \| IRC-Monitor-814	00:34
ubottu	IRC-Monitor-814: Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	00:34
Jeruvy	progre55: just monitor it or log it for a while. See if leakage is the problem (or its something else)	00:35
VCoolio	wow, system froze with swap 100% fill and mem 95%, first time that happened to me; where would I find what app was eating my resources?	00:35
progre55	Jeruvy, thanks man. but.. how to log? :) sorry for noobness ))	00:35
progre55	VCoolio, top?	00:36
cabrey	VCoolio, htop	00:36
progre55	oops, missed a letter :-D	00:36
VCoolio	progre55: is there a history for those? I rebooted	00:36
cabrey	VCoolio, the log viewer is also good	00:36
cabrey	VCoolio, just how many apps were you running?	00:37
Jeruvy	progre55: use top with -b to log to a file	00:37
mdcclvi	Is there a way to see which graphics driver I'm using? I've installed the Nouveau driver and I'm getting full resolution and wanted to check it hadn't just fallen back to the binary Nvidia driver.	00:37
VCoolio	well, conky, pidgin, minefield, parcellite, nothing too serious	00:37
VCoolio	cabrey: ^	00:37
cabrey	VCoolio, do you have like 256 megs of ram?	00:37
VCoolio	cabrey: 512	00:38
zer0o	hi guys how do i run compiz? its installed but i dunno how to run it, i want to customize it but dunno where it is	00:38
progre55	Jeruvy, thanks man, appreciate1	00:38
Joeseph	Out of curiosity, why did I have to restart after I added the medibuntu repositories to my trusted sources?	00:38
rww	!ccsm \| zer0o	00:38
ubottu	zer0o: To enable advanced customization of desktop effects in Ubuntu: install 'compizconfig-settings-manager' or 'simple-ccsm'. If you install the latter, a new option will appear in your appearance properties - See also !compiz - Help in #compiz-fusion	00:38
rww	Joeseph: you didn't	00:38
cabrey	VCoolio, that's odd my netbook sips about ~200megs with that stuff open	00:38
Joeseph	rww: But I did.....	00:38
cabrey	zer0o, System > Preferences > Appearance > Visual Effects	00:38
PovAddict	how do I know what's the correct nvidia-glx-* package for my card?	00:39
zer0o	cabrey i run kubuntu on System there's no "preferences" where is it?	00:39
kseise	!min	00:39
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about min	00:39
cabrey	zer0o, oh uhh kde uses kwin, so ask in #kubuntu	00:39
PovAddict	or are those version numbers, and so I should get the latest one?	00:39
jonaskoelker	Hi all. How do I make pulseaudio "survive" (i.e. keep running after) X server restarts?	00:40
jonaskoelker	can I run it as a system service instead of on a per-user basis (like mpd)?	00:40
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tagalong	Anyone out there have game server experience on Ubuntu 9.04?	00:41
cabrey	tagalong, theres probably an irc room for that	00:41
rww	tagalong: I imagine it'd be useful for you to specify which game =/	00:41
binskipy2u	anyone know of a script, or long command that ll install all the most widely used multimedia apps/codecs, and all their dependencies, instead of searching synaptic package by package?	00:41
tagalong	I have looked. Something like #ubuntu-gaming?	00:41
Arkhalis	So, is there any reason the wired ethernet port on my laptop would just suddenly stop working from one day to the next? i can still modprobe it with no errors, but it no longer shows up in the network manager.	00:41
rww	binskipy2u: ubuntu-restricted-extras is a good start	00:42
Arkhalis	The laptop is only 3 weeks old so i doubt it's the mobo but i guess it could be	00:42
Jeruvy	Arkhalis: can you get it working again?	00:43
shiznebit	Arkhalis: try booting from a live cd and see if it works	00:43
false	Got a question; Anyone using Intel GMA 45000MHD gfx, and able to tell me how they're working in Jaunty? I just a new laptop trying to anticipate what troubles I'm going to have installing Ubuntu completely, if any.	00:43
tsrk	how do i get a list of mounted partitions?	00:43
rww	tsrk: type "mount" in terminal	00:43
rww	false: couldn't you just run the LiveCD/Desktop CD to find that out?	00:44
danbhfive	false: is that a netbook chipset?	00:44
tsrk	rww, wow, that's too simple, thanks!	00:44
Arkhalis	shiznebit: I can't really... from a fresh install like live cd the wireless and wired ports don't work. had to install the drivers from source originally	00:44
cabrey	!intel \| false	00:44
ubottu	false: Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.	00:44
nellmathew	hey guys what's a small, fast, resource-friendly browser? (mainly resource friendly - flash is optional, for quick browsing)	00:44
maha	hi	00:45
rww	nellmathew: graphical or command-line?	00:45
nellmathew	rww, graphical	00:45
maha	pratim te	00:45
rww	nellmathew: epiphany-browser or midori	00:45
maha	hahahahha	00:45
nellmathew	rww, gimme a good command line one too, i might give it a go	00:45
PovAddict	links2 -g	00:45
Jeruvy	!browser \| nellmathew	00:45
ubottu	nellmathew: Browsers available for Ubuntu: Firefox (GTK, Gecko engine), Konqueror (KDE/Qt, KHTML engine), Epiphany (GTK, Gecko engine), Dillo (GTK), w3m (terminal-based), Links2 (terminal-based or graphical, see !man page), edbrowse (command-line), Opera (Qt, proprietary)	00:45
rww	nellmathew: w3m or links2	00:45
Arkhalis	nellmathew: google chrome works quite well under wine, if you don't mind doing it that way - otherwise i would try midori	00:45
PovAddict	nellmathew: links2 has both command line and graphical	00:45
VCoolio	nellmathew: dillo is very fast, but very very basic	00:46
nellmathew	thanks guys, good stuff..	00:46
Arkhalis	strange thing is... my wired ethernet port doesn't even show up in ifconfig anymore... however i have it in etc/modules	00:47
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Um_cara_qualquer	hey folks, how i set time when boot ask witch OS i wanna start?	00:47
Arkhalis	it shows up in lshw as unclaimed though	00:47
shiznebit	Arkhalis: im just not sure then, try makeing a persistant usb install and compile the drivers on that...	00:48
terr_	I'm thinking of installing ubuntu in one of my computers. Its a shuttle SN41G2. I _do not_ know much about it and I have NOT powered it up yet. 1) I read it can boot off a USB drive. Can anyone recomend a reasonable size thumb (or related) drive for this? 2) I'll follow with a network install 3) It does not have a FDD or DVD/CD. Can anyone recomend if I _should_ install a FDD and also where I can find a region code free DVD/CDC R/	00:48
Arkhalis	shiznebit: elaborate please?	00:48
xxuriahxx1	can some1 help me with partitioning, i have a 10 partition and I would like to increase it - the drive itself is 40 gigs total - please help	00:49
terr_	I am also considering installing Debian - only because I presently run it. Can anyone give me reasons to use ubuntu rather than debian?	00:49
Um_cara_qualquer	anyone?	00:49
Arkhalis	terr_: 1gb or larger preferrably 2gb for the thumb drive question	00:49
maha	oooooooooooo	00:49
maha	oooooo	00:49
terr_	Arkhalis: 4GB are readily available too.	00:49
maha	oooooooo	00:49
VCoolio	terr_: ubuntu has more (and friendlier some say) support, especially for newcomers	00:50
Arkhalis	terr_: the entire "live cd" should fit on a 1gb... everything over that is basically extra space since it will have to be formatted	00:50
papna	Just installed 9.04 and nvidia drivers through the restricted drivers manager, and it is keeping my screen resolution low. (xorg.conf seems to have gone all minimalist on me with the new version of X!)	00:50
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: Change the "timeout" line in /boot/grub/menu.lst	00:51
terr_	Arkhalis: good point.	00:51
terr_	VCoolio: I'm not _really_ a newbie	00:51
Um_cara_qualquer	rww change to what?	00:51
VCoolio	terr_: I didn't say that, but then you should go with ubuntu to help newbies :)	00:52
Arkhalis	anyone else have an idea for fixing my wired ethernet?	00:52
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: You mean you want to set the time that OS selection screen is there before it picks the default, yes?	00:52
terr_	$8 / 1GB, $10 / 2GB $14 / 4GB	00:52
terr_	Arkhalis: problem?	00:52
Um_cara_qualquer	rww thats right	00:52
coler	ok i downloaded a file on my desktop that has a tar.gz extension, can someone tell me what to do next	00:53
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: then change the number in the timeout line to the number of seconds you want it to wait before timing out	00:53
Arkhalis	terr_: Yesterday my wired ethernet port worked fine... today it doesent. It shows up in lshw as unclaimed... i can modprobe it just fine and i have it set in my etc/modules	00:54
terr_	rww cd /directory_of_your_choice, mv ~/blah.gz . tar -xvfz blah	00:54
jaime	hola soy nuevo en esto	00:54
papnaa	Just installed 9.04 and nvidia drivers through the restricted drivers manager, and it is keeping my screen resolution low. (xorg.conf seems to have gone all minimalist on me with the new version of X!) Can anyone help me get my resolution right?	00:54
rww	terr_: I think you meant to tell that to someone else ;)	00:54
Um_cara_qualquer	rww that's what everybody tells me... but it its already 10 seconds set... but when the pc boots, it dens't take any time... it just waits	00:54
jaime	alguien puede ayudarme?	00:54
terr_	Arkhalis: check power. unplug and replug	00:54
rww	jaime: language?	00:54
terr_	Arkhalis: check with ifconfig if its up	00:55
jaime	español	00:55
Arkhalis	terr_: for wired ethernet?	00:55
rww	!es \| jaime	00:55
ubottu	jaime: En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	00:55
jaime	gracias	00:55
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: Even if you don't press any keys at all during bootup?	00:55
Um_cara_qualquer	rww yep	00:55
drmrhorse_	my jaunty will not login after the updates today. my login screen disappears and returns.	00:55
Arkhalis	terr_:i have shut down and rebooted several times to no avail... also recompiled the drivers from source and reinstalled	00:55
coler	or is there a program that will allow my iphoone to connect to my desktop. I have jaadu	00:56
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cabrey	coler, you have to jailbreak it and even then its iffy	00:56
terr_	Arkhalis: ifconfig will tell you if its connected.	00:56
coler	jailbreak what	00:57
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: do you have a default entry set with the default line?	00:57
terr_	coler: cd /directory_of_your_choice, mv ~/blah.gz . tar -xvfz blah	00:57
Arkhalis	terr_: yesterday it was listed in ifconfig, today the hardware doesn't even show in ifconfig	00:57
ScottG	Is there a way to reel in the cd drive after I have ejected it?	00:57
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: (I think Ubuntu uses "default 0" normally; if you changed it that might be a problem)	00:57
Um_cara_qualquer	rww i asked my teacher about it... he said it could be because there's a # in menu.lst line	00:57
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: on the timeout line?	00:57
terr_	Arkhalis: what of when you boot?	00:57
Um_cara_qualquer	yes	00:57
Arkhalis	hmm?	00:57
terr_	Arkhalis: dmesg should show it in the boot sequence	00:57
ScottG	I think I may have just ejected my CD drive on my home computer ( I am at work now) by accident. I want to pull it back in now	00:57
rww	Um_cara_qualquer: yeah, remove that. The whole line should just say timeout 10 (or whatever number you want)	00:57
Arkhalis	terr_: I'll try that... one sec	00:58
terr_	ScottG: get your GF outta bed then	00:58
rww	ScottG: eject -t	00:58
terr_	rww REALLY? Thats how we get it back in?	00:58
rww	terr_: That command will close the CD tray on most CD-ROM drives, yes.	00:59
elad``	Any idea where I can find open domain images of chess pieces?	00:59
terr_	rww I didn't knwo that. I always thought we needed to do that Manually	00:59
papna	man eject	00:59
terr_	elad` use a digital camera and take your own! THen you own the copyright	01:00
rww	terr_: nope. I use it all the time to script burning CDs :)	01:00
Mike_lifeguard	Is there a gtk media player like amarok? I'd rather not install kde cruft if I don't have to. Specifically, I need to write to an MTP player (like the Creative Zen)	01:00
nigrea	Hello guys, I had some problems with mysql-server, I tried to reinstall it from the top, but now it will not let me install it "E: mysql-server-5.1: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1	01:00
nigrea	" any ideas or suggestions, I could ask in mysql chat but since its more an installing error, I think u could help :)	01:00
terr_	elad` borne copyright conventions award copyright of a photo to the photographer	01:00
rww	Mike_lifeguard: Rhythmbox has an MTP plugin. I don't know if it works, though, 'cause I don't have an MTP player.	01:00
Smis	AH!	01:00
nai	Mike_lifeguard rhythmbox, listen?	01:01
terr_	rww: what about region free DVD/CD R/RW	01:01
nai	listen is ok	01:01
Mike_lifeguard	rww: it doesn't, so far as I can tell... and the docs state that it doesn't write to media players	01:01
moulin	Who can help me with a Sendmail issue?	01:01
nai	Mike_lifeguard also exaile	01:01
terr_	So for a bootable USB drive - is there any reason to go above 1GB?	01:01
ScottG	rww: From the man page, it actually sounds like I should use -T not -t	01:02
terr_	moulin: I use postfix	01:02
papna	terr_, You'd be able to store nontrivial amounts of data and extra software on it.	01:02
Arkhalis	terr_: depends on the size of the live cd	01:02
rww	ScottG: if the CD tray is open, -T and -t will do the same thing	01:02
ScottG	rww: Wait i lied	01:02
ScottG	rww: Yea	01:02
papna	ScottG, If you don't know, -t is for you--then you know it will end up closed.	01:02
Arkhalis	terr_: ubuntu 9.04 netbook remix fit on a 1g....	01:03
moulin	terr_: I want to disable local delivery for a domain	01:03
terr_	papna: there will be a 160GB HHD in the machine...	01:03
ScottG	papna: Yea.	01:03
ScottG	Thanks guys	01:03
fattybutterpance	Would anyone know how I might be able to avoid a kernel panic? I get one after resuming from sleep... not right away, but after some internet activity.	01:04
terr_	moulin: I have never done that. You better ask someone else - try #postfix	01:04
Arkhalis	terr_: it loads properly according to dmesg	01:04
moulin	terr_: thanks!	01:04
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Arkhalis	i'm at a loss here, completely confused	01:04
terr_	Arkhalis: then your driver is not loaded. look for the driver. lsmod I think	01:04
nellmathew	i'm curious if i "clone a git repository" would that be similar to adding the repos to sources? (would apt inform me of new available updates?)	01:05
cabrey	nellmathew, no git is a software versioning sysem	01:05
cabrey	system*	01:05
nellmathew	ah, thanks cabrey	01:06
cabrey	it is extremely bleeding edge software	01:06
terr_	So far I cannot think of why I might need more than a 1GB USB drive. I mean a CD is < 1GB and they do the job.	01:06
nigrea	Hello guys, I had some problems with mysql-server, I tried to reinstall it from the top, but now it will not let me install it "E: mysql-server-5.1: subprocess post-installation script returned error exit status 1	01:06
nigrea	" any ideas or suggestions, I could ask in mysql chat but since its more an installing error, I think u could help :)	01:06
Arkhalis	terr_: so what would i have to do to load the driver?	01:06
terr_	I'm thinking to make the USB drive bootable all I might need to do is put grub on it - then lift the boot sector and lay it back down again wiht DD	01:06
Arkhalis	lol... game set and match terr_ no need for more than a 1gb	01:06
laeg	cabrey: when i type a command in terminal like pidgin - how do i change where that actually points to?	01:07
terr_	Arkhalis: hmnm - I've done this b4.	01:07
terr_	Arkhalis: bin years	01:07
laeg	it's definitely installed with synaptic now but i remember changing where pidgin looks	01:07
Arkhalis	bootable usb drive is easier than that	01:07
cabrey	laeg, it depends on the $PATH	01:07
terr_	Arkhalis: really? I've NEVER used USB even	01:07
hipitihop	if in grub I do 'find /boot/grub/stage1' and it returns (hd0,0) and (hd2,0) how do I know which drives or mount points these relate to ?	01:07
Arkhalis	there is even an app out there to take the live cd file (even windows xp) and make it bootable on a thumb drive	01:07
redsoxking	hello everyone	01:07
rww	laeg: when you type in "pidgin", bash looks in your $PATH variable and looks in every directory in there, from left to right, until it finds one. You can see what's in $PATH with "echo $PATH".	01:08
Arkhalis	does it all for you	01:08
cabrey	Arkhalis, why do you need >1 GB drive?	01:08
terr_	Arkhalis: you will need to 1) install the driver in the mkinitrd helper file - means you need to man mkinitrd	01:08
terr_	Arkhalis: or modprobe blah	01:08
Arkhalis	cabrey: never said he did... i was saying mine was 2gb but it was extra space	01:08
cabrey	ahh mk :)	01:08
MK-ubuntu	what?	01:08
redsoxking	does anyone know how to convert .ppt to mpeg 4 or AVI?????	01:09
terr_	Arkhalis: there is a file in /etc which has the list of modules the os needs to load. I ran into the problem when I upgraded the kernel and didn't rebuild mkinitrd and I was using a SCSI HDD and it dind't have a driver!!! kernel paniced	01:09
Arkhalis	hey cabrey, remember how i was having problems with wired ethernet a couple weeks ago? well yesterday it just suddenly stopped working dissapeared entirely lol	01:09
redsoxking	i want to post on metacafe and youtube	01:09
Arkhalis	terr_: i already have it listed in etc/modules	01:09
cabrey	redsoxking, uh record it while you're playing it back?	01:09
Arkhalis	terr_: however, i don't know what this man mkinitrd thing is	01:10
MK-ubuntu	cabrey, i thought u called me.	01:10
hipitihop	redsoxking: not sure what ppt is but have you tried vlc ? it has many transcoding options	01:10
cabrey	MK-ubuntu, oh no haha	01:10
timposey	i have a webpage that has some flash links to MP3 files, but none of my browsers in ubuntu will play the audio, it works fine on a windows machine wth firefox but nothing on ubuntu. any ideas?	01:10
MK-ubuntu	o.O;; lolz	01:10
rww	hipitihop: ppt = Microsoft PowerPoint file	01:10
redsoxking	ppt is a power point presentation	01:10
cabrey	Arkhalis, is this the 1008ha?	01:10
Arkhalis	cabrey: yep	01:10
Darck1	Hi all. Got a problem with my display. SOMETHING (I don't know what) runs just after login and changes my display to 800x600 instead of the 1680x1050 that's in my xorg.conf file - any ideas?	01:10
cabrey	Arkhalis, i think i know why	01:10
cabrey	Arkhalis, there was a recent kernel update	01:11
redsoxking	cabrey: how do I record it...what app?	01:11
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laeg	cabrey, rww: echo $PATH = /usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/usr/games - how do i make it find where synaptic would have put pidgin?	01:11
terr_	Arkhalis: trust me - its important. Its part of the boot sequence - where the kernel gets extra drivers which are needed but not compiled in.	01:11
rww	Darck1: is System > Preferences > Display set right?	01:11
cabrey	!info gtk-recordmydesktop \| redsoxking	01:11
ubottu	redsoxking: gtk-recordmydesktop (source: gtk-recordmydesktop): Graphical frontend for recordmydesktop. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.3.7.2-2ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 79 kB, installed size 564 kB	01:11
redsoxking	cabrey: thanks	01:11
cabrey	laeg, are you using your compiled pidgin?	01:11
redsoxking	ubottu:thanks	01:11
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	01:11
hipitihop	rww, that's what I thought but I was never aware those could be made into mpeg4 or similar formats	01:11
Darck1	Yup. I'm using nvidia-settings for that	01:11
Arkhalis	cabrey: my dmesg shows it there, and it's in etc/modules but not in my ifconfig.... terr_: i don't doubt it's important... i just don't know what you mean by man mkiniwhatever >< lol	01:12
redsoxking	lol	01:12
rww	laeg: "which pidgin" will show where pidgin is installed. Ubuntu's default location is /usr/bin/pidgin	01:12
terr_	Seesh - $8/1Gb, $10/2GB. I might as well splurge!!!! But what a WASTE	01:12
cabrey	Arkhalis, did you recompile the kernel for the 2.6.28-13 update?	01:12
cabrey	recompile the module*	01:12
rww	!dontzap > Um_cara_qualquer (Please see the private message from the bot)	01:12
terr_	Arkhalis: man gives you docs	01:12
Arkhalis	cabrey: would the kernet update automatically?	01:13
Arkhalis	kernel	01:13
cabrey	Arkhalis, if you used update-manager or updated using aptitude/apt-get	01:13
laeg	cabrey: not the compiled version, the past few hours i've been trying to uninstall it - last think i did was a config, make and uninstall from /usr/bin/pidgin-2.5.5	01:13
terr_	Arkhalis: what does lsmod show?	01:13
cabrey	laeg, if you used --prefix during ./configure, you can just delete the folder	01:14
Arkhalis	cabrey:alright, well i have already recompiled the source and did sudo make install and it errored out	01:14
cabrey	Arkhalis, can you pastebin the error?	01:14
Arkhalis	terr_: i would pastebin it but i can't get internet on the laptop right now lol	01:14
Arkhalis	hmm	01:14
laeg	cabrey: what do you mean during configure, i installed the latest version with synaptic?	01:14
terr_	Arkhalis: ugghh.	01:14
cabrey	Arkhalis, use a flash drive or something	01:14
Arkhalis	cabrey, terr_: give me a bit to copy paste and transfer to this computer so i can pastebin... they will be on the same pastebin though	01:15
terr_	Arkhalis: I had that problem with the mkinitrd - and my servers were down. it wasn't just the kernel that paniced	01:15
cabrey	laeg, no i'm talking about the one you compiled.	01:15
pikeshouse88	hey guys	01:15
laeg	/usr/bin/pidgin	01:15
Arkhalis	I will pastebin lsmod, lshw, ifconfig, and the error when i sudo make install k?	01:15
cabrey	laeg, ok. you have one compiled version of pidgin from a while ago and one recently installed via apt, correct?	01:15
terr_	Arkhalis: just us lsmod while root - the driver should be listed. If not try modprobe blah	01:15
laeg	cabrey, rww: which pidgin = /usr/bin/pidgin	01:16
timposey	i have a webpage that has some flash links to MP3 files, but none of my browsers in ubuntu will play the audio, it works fine on a windows machine wth firefox but nothing on ubuntu. any ideas?	01:16
laeg	cabrey: yes but i did a conf, make and uninstall on the compiled version a few mins ago	01:16
laeg	cabrey: then i removed and re-added the apt one	01:16
laeg	now pidgin = not found	01:16
laeg	wait shit	01:16
GuyFromHell	does anyone know of any software to broadcast a desktop over streaming video or something?	01:16
pikeshouse88	ok so, theyres a stream that plays with flash. but we all know how much flash sucks. I really want to take the stream and play it with VLC. would anyone be willing to help me decompile the SWF and find the source video?	01:16
laeg	cabrey: yeah, not found - used to run but was bugged	01:16
cabrey	laeg, run sudo aptitude remove pidgin	01:17
pikeshouse88	because i have no idea how to do that and its killing me	01:17
arash	rg	01:17
laeg	cabrey: it's doing it, bear in mind the source code is still in /opt/pidgin-2.5.5 in case it's relevant	01:17
terr_	pikeshouse88: ya - I f8ing hate flash too!	01:17
gmcm	I recently installed the newest version of Ubuntu. I then uninstalled the embedded version of OpenOffice. Now I would like to install OpenOffice 3.1. I've downloaded OpenOffice, but don't understand the instructions for installation. Can someone help?	01:17
upgrdman	other than gtk-gnutella, are there any decent p2p programs for gnome/gtk?	01:17
sacamano	hey, quick question. so i update my repo lists, but for some reason it never asks if i want to upgrade to OpenOffice3.0. why (or more importantly) how do you upgrade?	01:17
pikeshouse88	terr_: would you be able to help?	01:18
sacamano	gmcm, go to Add/Remove, and install it that way.	01:18
gmcm	Ok, I'll try that.	01:18
VCoolio	upgrdman: deluge, transmission, bittornado	01:18
rww	!p2p \| upgrdman	01:18
ubottu	upgrdman: Peer-to-peer filesharing clients are available for several networks/protocols, including !BitTorrent, !Gnutella, !eDonkey, !DirectConnect, !SoulSeek - Multi-protocol engines include !MLDonkey and !giFT - See http://wiki.ubuntu.com/P2PFileSharing for general information	01:18
terr_	pikeshouse88: I probably have too many things on my platter at the moment. However technically I probably can help. I need to get other things done first.	01:18
upgrdman	!gnutella	01:19
ubottu	Gnutella clients: GTK-Gnutella (GTK, stand-alone), gifTui, giFToxic (GTK, based on giFT), Apollon (KDE, based on giFT), mldonkey-gui (GTK, based on MLDonkey), KMLDonkey (KDE, based on MLDonkey), !Limewire, !Frostwire (Java, not in the !repositories) - See also !P2P	01:19
caronav	hola	01:19
terr_	pikeshouse88: I need to set up a new desktop, upgrade my firewalls, set up new web servers, set up full ISP style email	01:19
laeg	cabrey: aptitude remove pidgin complete...	01:19
danbhfive	sacamano: are you using LTS?	01:19
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cabrey	laeg, if you don't mind cleaning your apt cache: sudo apt-get autoclean	01:20
sacamano	danbhfive, im on 8.10, i dont remember if its LTS	01:20
Darck1	any ideas what this is? http://pastebin.com/d28d0f9d3	01:20
caronav	alguien puede ayudar q pograma puedo bajar para k mi ipod touch gestionarlo?	01:20
sacamano	gmcm, that keeps it in your official repositories and that way fixes, updates, and patches automatically apply. if you download it straight from the web, or in a .deb package, it wont be updated.	01:20
cabrey	!br	01:20
ubottu	Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	01:20
sacamano	cabrey, thats spanish	01:20
sacamano	!sp	01:20
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about sp	01:20
sacamano	!es	01:21
danbhfive	sacamano: well, 3.0 was abandoned, FYI. 3.1 is in Jaunty. I'm not sure what happened with backporting it to intrepid...	01:21
ubottu	En la mayoría de canales Ubuntu se comunica en inglés. Para ayuda en Español, por favor entre en los canales #ubuntu-es o #kubuntu-es.	01:21
cabrey	haha oops	01:21
sacamano	:)	01:21
sacamano	ahhh, that makes sense. thanks danbhfive	01:21
Darck1	:-( Someone throw me a bone? Every time I log on my desktop gets reset to 800x600 and I have no idea why	01:22
terr_	Arkhalis: any luck? What does lsmod show?	01:22
Arkhalis	pastebinning in one sec sorry	01:23
Darck1	I did a cat /var/log/syslog to step through everything in there but I can't work out what's happening	01:23
`Dave`	Can someone tell me how to load programs without using the terminal please	01:24
laeg	cabrey: sudo apt-get autoclean	01:24
laeg	complete	01:24
Darck1	alt+f2	01:24
terr_	Darck1: check your /etc/X11/XF86Config-4	01:25
`Dave`	ty Darck1	01:25
Darck1	yw	01:25
Darck1	Thanks terr_ that files a new one to me	01:25
Darck1	I'll look now	01:25
Arkhalis	terr_, cabrey: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201781/ shows error for make install on driver at the bottom cabrey also everything else too lol	01:25
entropy	Is there a better sound driver for an iMac 7,1's card than the Realtek ALC889A? I really need to configure the bass levels in alsamixer, however this driver only gives me Master and PCM.	01:25
Darck1	um... I don't see a /etc/X11/XF86Config-4	01:26
terr_	Darck1: might be a different version. that is what mine is. Also I configured dual heads in so I needed to learn that stuff.	01:26
sacamano	Darck1, you sounds like your x.org config	01:27
danbhfive	Darck1: have you looked at Xorg.0.log?	01:27
gggg	what's the difference between modules and drivers?	01:27
terr_	entropy: sorry. After the latest RIAA crap - we need to boycott all big label music and buy ONLY from artists.	01:27
Darck1	Okay - no I haven't looked at Xorg.0.log - looking now	01:28
danbhfive	gggg: in Ubuntu, drivers are loaded as modules	01:28
Arkhalis	you see the pastebin terr_?	01:28
Arkhalis	and cabrey	01:28
terr_	gggg: drivers live in modules	01:28
gggg	so device drivers and modules are same?	01:28
Darck1	last but one line shows nvidia setting 800x600	01:28
Darck1	(II) NVIDIA(0): Setting mode "800x600"	01:29
gmcm	sacamano: Do I need to select the entire OpenOffice.org package when installing in order to get the automatic updates, or can I just select the functions I want from OpenOffice (like Database)?	01:29
Darck1	BUT - this isn't in my config file and I don't know WHAT is setting that resolution	01:29
VCoolio	if it happens after login it should be a user config I think; I have e.g. ~/.nvidia-settings-rc and ~/.screenrc; maybe you have something there that overrides xorg.conf, is that possible? just guessing	01:29
gggg	writing device driver and writing modules are similar?	01:29
VCoolio	Darck1: ^^	01:29
Darck1	thanks VCoolio - I'll look there	01:29
Darck1	Hmmm... I do have a .nvidia-settings-rc file that got changed 06/15/09 but I don't see anything in there that changes resolution	01:31
thinkle79	The recent kernel upgrade in jaunty to 2.6.28-13 broke my poulsbo drivers from the ubuntu-mobile ppa (I'm on a dell-mini-12). If I run from 2.6.28-13, I have to run in vesa mode with low res. I can boot from the previous kernel (2.6.28-11) but then my broadcom wireless drivers don't load for some reason. Any ideas how to get out of this situation?	01:32
Darck1	I have .screenrc but it's empty	01:33
Arkhalis	anything terr_?	01:33
danbhfive	Darck1: try creating a new user, and see if the problem remains	01:33
terr_	Arkhalis: just getting to it now.	01:34
Arkhalis	aha sorry and thanks	01:34
Darck1	danbhfile - I'm fairly certain that if I log in as a different user I won't get the error, kinda loathe to do that while I have you all trying to help me	01:34
Darck1	:-p	01:34
terr_	Arkhalis: what if?	01:34
chris_lenz123	hey guys i need help with my speakers	01:35
Arkhalis	what if what?	01:35
terr_	Arkhalis: what interface (if) is missing?	01:35
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Arkhalis	atl1e or the wired ethernet port	01:35
fattybutterpance	thinkle79, Can you boot from a live USB, I had somthing simular where modules were not loading... Some links were messed up on my machine.	01:35
Arkhalis	it shows as attansic in lshw	01:35
chris_lenz123	they wont work on Linux	01:35
terr_	Arkhalis: running an asus eee pC?	01:36
Miles_Firefox	need help. with GNOME, where on this server will i found?	01:36
Arkhalis	terr_: Yeah, 1008ha	01:36
terr_	Arkhalis: I'm looking for a real cheap one!	01:37
thinkle79	fattybutterpance: I haven't tried a live USB but presumably wireless would work -- wireless worked fine when I installed jaunty fresh and it worked fine until the recent kernel upgrade. It also works fine now (with the latest kernel) but my graphics are broken and I can't seem to downgrade.	01:37
terr_	Arkhalis: how fast is the atom verses a 1.3GHz tualatin core celron?	01:38
geirha	Darck1: Does the login screen have the correct resolution?	01:38
Arkhalis	it's decent at full speed but since it's made to conserve battery life it runs slower 90% of the time	01:38
terr_	Arkhalis: product: Attansic Technology Cor <--- is that the missing nic?	01:39
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Darck1	geirha: Yes it does	01:39
Darck1	that's why I think it's something that's happening in my logon	01:39
Arkhalis	yeah... it's actually an ar8132	01:39
terr_	Arkhalis: how many bogomips? Of course I have no rebootted this machien for 2 years so I think its about 1300	01:39
Miles_Firefox	gnome panel, since is becoming in front of window close button (X). everytime i maximize it respect the limit boundaries of gnome panel. since yesterday. then it (pic) starts to happen. There is a way to fix it?	01:40
donny	does any one know how to install world of warcraft on ubuntu 9.04	01:40
geirha	Darck1: Run gconf-editor and browse to /desktop/gnome/screen/default/0/ what's the resolution set to there?	01:40
rz187	!nvidia	01:40
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	01:40
Arkhalis	not sure terr_ haven't been using it but 3 weeks lol	01:40
xcerca	is there any kind of macro recorder / player ? whats good for that ?	01:40
terr_	2601.77 BogoMIPS	01:40
usr13	!wow	01:40
ubottu	Information about games on Ubuntu can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Games and http://www.icculus.org/lgfaq/gamelist.php	01:40
Arkhalis	terr_: running short on time, have to go to work soon	01:41
Darck1	there is no /desktop/gnome/screen	01:41
terr_	Arkhalis: check dmesg	01:41
Arkhalis	ok and look for what?	01:41
xcerca	!macro	01:41
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about macro	01:41
terr_	Arkhalis: do you live in Oz?	01:41
rz187	I have an EVGA Nvidia 8600 gts.....should the drivers i download in an update work for dual screen? cuase its not detecting...i htink im having mobo problems is why im asking	01:41
terr_	Arkhalis: product: Attansic Technology Cor <--- is that the missing nic?	01:42
ivantis	I'm having some trouble getting an smb mount working	01:42
ivantis	Can someone who has done this before walk me through it?	01:42
Darck1	- /desktop/gnome/remote_access then /desktop/gnome/session	01:42
VCoolio	Darck1: try disconnecting and replugging the cables http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=10&t=35485&start=15	01:42
terr_	rz187: you need to configure /etc/X11/XF86...	01:42
rz187	is there another way? I thought i did this before	01:43
geirha	Darck1: It's probably different in newer releases then. I'm on good old 8.04 myself.	01:43
CapeONE	sup people	01:43
Arkhalis	terr_: i don't see it in there ><	01:43
rz187	the 2nd screen isnt showing in Monitor resolution settings, where i think it has in the past	01:43
CapeONE	HI GUYS	01:43
Arkhalis	terr_: attansic, ar8132, or atl1e	01:43
donny	does any one know how to use wine ?	01:43
sebsebseb	donny: yeah	01:43
sebsebseb	donny: of course	01:44
cabrey	Arkhalis, sorry was away for a little bit	01:44
joel_	!hi \| CapeONE	01:44
ubottu	CapeONE: Hi! Welcome to #ubuntu!	01:44
donny	i am trying to install wow on ubuntu and it tells me to type this into termanil	01:44
Darck1	bizarre - but I'm not using experimental - I'll try unblugging and replugging though	01:44
donny	cd /home/donavan/desktop>/	01:44
donny	then wine installer.exe	01:44
donny	when i do that i get this message wine: could not load L"C:\\windows\\system32\\installer.exe": Module not found	01:44
Arkhalis	cabrey: no worries... i have the pastebin up http://paste.ubuntu.com/201781/ down at the bottom it shows the make install	01:45
joel_	donny: have you downloaded wine?	01:45
VCoolio	Darck1: I remember a guy having your problem, stuck at 800x600; it helped him	01:45
donny	yes	01:45
donny	and i ahve installed it	01:45
Darck1	okay - I've unplugged and replugged - I'll restart X	01:45
Darck1	brb	01:45
cabrey	Arkhalis, run make clean then just make and post that output. btw if you have another computer running 2.6.28-13, you can use that	01:45
Darck1	aw shit	01:45
terr_	Arkhalis: you'll note lsmod does not show the driver. try this: locate ar8132 / locate atl1e modprobe ar8132 / modprobe atl1e (should be the same name as in /etc/modules)	01:46
Darck1	all the stuff I've done has made me lose my "Zap"	01:46
Darck1	anybody remember what the command is to re-enable zap?	01:46
Flannel	!dontzap \| Darck1	01:46
ubottu	Darck1: To re-enable the Ctrl+Alt+Backspace combination that restarts your X server, you can install the "dontzap" package and use the command « sudo dontzap --disable ». The combination Alt+SysRq+K can also be used to obtain a similar effect.	01:46
fattybutterpance	thinkle79: I am not too sure, maybe this link may help... https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ReinhardTartler/X/RevertingIntelDriverTo2.4	01:47
donny	does any one know what i should do	01:47
geirha	Darck1: It's better to log out and back in again though. That restarts X in a cleaner way	01:47
Darck1	k thanks	01:47
terr_	Arkhalis: did you do make init? (Might not be quite correct - been a while since I've done this)	01:47
Arkhalis	terr_: modprobe on ar8132 errored... atl1e seemed fine it listed a bunch and the modprobe had no error	01:47
terr_	Arkhalis: ya - I see.	01:47
terr_	try make clean	01:47
terr_	then your make sequence	01:48
cabrey	pastebin it!	01:48
terr_	damn - I forget the make sequence	01:48
Arkhalis	ok i will one sec	01:48
donny	should i uninstall wine and reinstal it ?	01:48
laeg	cabrey: you there mate? i sudo aptitude remove pidgin, sudo apt-get autocleanand then tried sudo aptitude install pidgin but it says bash: /usr/local/bin/pidgin: No such file or directory	01:48
terr_	Arkhalis: do this for me: cd /var/log; dmesg and tell me the bogomips	01:48
thinkle79	fattybutterpance: Thanks -- I think that's a different graphics driver though. I found this -- http://mok0.wordpress.com/2009/05/25/ubuntu-on-the-dell-mini-10-2/ -- which has a comment that refers to exactly what I'm experiencing. Unfortunately, the solution (install psb-kernel-source) isn't working as I'm getting error building the module.	01:48
cabrey	laeg, have you tried logging out and back in again?	01:49
geirha	donny: Sure you got the right directory?	01:49
donny	wich directory ? were the wow files are ?	01:49
geirha	donny: Try this. In the terminal type wine followed by a space, then drag the file installer.exe onto the terminal window, then run the command	01:50
donny	i think it workes	01:51
laeg	cabrey: before or after install?	01:51
Arkhalis	terr_: where do i find the bogomips in dmesg?	01:51
cabrey	laeg, after	01:51
terr_	Arkhalis: at the top	01:51
geirha	donny: Then you had probably "cd"-ed to the wrong directory earlier	01:51
donny	thank you geirha	01:51
laeg	cabrey: when i install pidgin it also doesn't put any shortcuts in the apps menu like it used to in case that's relevant..	01:51
donny	whats -ed?	01:51
geirha	donny: -ed as in past tense	01:53
Fullmoon	My web server runs as www:www, I have user alpha, and beta, the server needs to read the files of the user, but I dont want user alpha to ready betas files or vice verse, how can i set this up?	01:53
BrianV	hi all. Is it possible to install ubuntu to an existing ext4 partition?	01:53
terr_	Arkhalis: damn - I can't find my goat book!	01:54
donny	o lol i knew that well thank you	01:54
darck1	tried that and a few other things besides - no dice, still resets to 800x600	01:54
nellmathew	umm.. how the heck do i get outta zoom desktop in compiz? =X	01:54
usr13	BrianV: Well, yes, but why not just let the install program repartion and re-format the space for you?	01:54
VCoolio	Darck1: did you also unplug on the monitor side? That was crucial to the guy I remembered; should have mentioned before; http://cafelinux.org/forum/index.php?topic=25.0;msg=159 ; otherwise I'm out of ideas	01:54
BrianV	usr13: because I have an existing fedora 11 partition there I want to overwrite	01:54
usr13	BrianV: Is it empty? (no files on it?)	01:54
BrianV	usr13: the problem is, the installer isn't picking up on my ext4 partitions	01:55
darck1	How could that matter? If it's unplugged at one side then... well... the computer won't know that it's unplugged at the other	01:55
usr13	BrianV: Delete the partiton.	01:55
terr_	Arkhalis: make sequence: configure; make; make install\	01:55
terr_	Arkhalis: make sequence: configure; make; make install	01:55
nellmathew	nvm, just needed to click desktop and super+r, figures..	01:55
BrianV	usr13: I can't. I have 2 ext4 partitions. The installer just sees it as one big unrecognized lump of disk	01:56
VCoolio	darck1: [quote] how does that make effing sense [/quote] read the link	01:56
Arkhalis	sorry, got the fiance yaking in my ear what does that mean and that	01:56
darck1	lol	01:56
Arkhalis	can't think lol	01:56
BrianV	that is, it doesn't recognize the individual partitions	01:56
darck1	I just did	01:56
darck1	okay - trying again	01:56
cabrey	laeg, gnome sometimes takes a little to update its menu system	01:56
sebsebseb	BrianV: which version of Ubuntu?	01:56
Arkhalis	the dmesg scrolls too far and the top is too far up to read the bogomips	01:56
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BrianV	sebsebseb: 9.04	01:56
sebsebseb	BrianV: and the Live CD won't detect the Fedora Ext4 hum	01:57
terr_	Arkhalis: NEVER but NEVER say "yacking". tyr dmesg \| less	01:57
Arkhalis	also...	01:57
terr_	Arkhalis: treat em nice! they can make your life miserable	01:57
sebsebseb	BrianV: Ext4 is a bit bad in 9.04 anyway, since no 2.6.30 kernel from the repo as an update and so on	01:57
Arkhalis	for some reason when i save my make sequence into a text doc	01:57
BrianV	sebsebseb: yes. Although now that I think about it... I used LVM, and if I recall, Ubuntu needs extra packages to use LVM	01:57
Arkhalis	text file that is	01:57
sebsebseb	BrianV: Ubuntu only do security updates you see, so 2.6.30 does not count	01:57
Arkhalis	transfer to this pc it comes up gibberish so i can't pastebin it this time	01:57
Arkhalis	it's odd	01:57
terr_	Arkhalis: dmesg \| grep bogo	01:58
BrianV	sebsebseb: hmm... that's a problem then. The Fedora install is troublesome, and I was hoping to upgrade easily. It locks up every time I try to backup my disk	01:58
terr_	Arkhalis: what country are you in?	01:58
sebsebseb	BrianV: well with the default kernel in 9.04 people can get a lockup when deleting data, it's in the release notes	01:58
darck1	okay - unplugged and re-plugged, restarting x	01:58
Arkhalis	us	01:58
sebsebseb	!notes \| BrianV	01:58
ubottu	BrianV: Ubuntu 9.04 (Jaunty Jackalope) release notes can be found here: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/JauntyJackalope/ReleaseNotes	01:58
terr_	oh - working the late shift then	01:58
gmap	how do i apt-get install a list of packages from a text file?	01:59
sebsebseb	BrianV: Fedora 11 uses Ext4 by default, and it's meant to be pretty good there :) also Ubuntu 9.10 released at the end of October will be using by default	01:59
BrianV	sebsebseb: ok. Well, I guess my strategy then is to try to get the disk to read with the liveCD so I can back it up.	01:59
Arkhalis	yeah work at a bar	01:59
terr_	gmap put #/bin/bash as the 1st line and execute it. chmod +c blah ./blah	01:59
BrianV	sebsebseb: then I will reformat to ext3, and start from scratch	02:00
terr_	chmod +x blah	02:00
Ahadiel	gmap, for pkg in `cat /path/to/file`; do apt-get install $pkg; done	02:00
Darck1	Well it was a lovely little ride - but it didn't help	02:00
Ahadiel	gmap, but that's assuming each package is on it's own line	02:00
sebsebseb	BrianV: how about starting from scratch with at least / in Ext4, at least then Ubuntu is faster to boot.	02:00
Ddorda	will Intel Core2Duo E2180 run ubuntu fine?	02:00
terr_	Arkhalis: I'd like a beer	02:00
sebsebseb	BrianV: keep data on Ext3 for now	02:00
gmap	ok thx Ahadiel	02:00
BrianV	sebsebseb: because /home is already on EXT4 from the Fedora 11 install	02:01
will	I hope this is the channel for people that just did stupid things. I just ran gzip on a directory without using tar first. Is there anyway to unzip all of the .gz files in all of the subdirectories at once?	02:01
sebsebseb	BrianV: right, but you made it sound like you were going to start over from scratch with all Ext3	02:01
terr_	Arkhalis: what is the cheapest eeepc you have come across?	02:01
Ahadiel	gmap, np	02:01
BrianV	sebsebseb: I may have to. If EXT4 support isn't ready in Ubuntu, no sense keeping it	02:01
gogeta	terr_ 900a ebay 150$	02:02
SeekingNothing	I've got an error when I try to uninstall things that reads "E: dpkg was interrupted, you must manually run 'sudo dpkg --configure -a' to correct the problem.	02:02
SeekingNothing	E: _cache->open() failed, please report." when I enter that into the terminal I get the following error, "dpkg: parse error, in file '/var/lib/dpkg/updates/0004' near line 14 package 'labyrinth': EOF during value field 'Description' (missing final newline)". What do I do?	02:02
Mike_lifeguard	will: probably look for an -r option in man gzip?	02:02
sebsebseb	BrianV: when doing another distro, it's probably usaully better to start over from scratch well for stuff such as /	02:02
gogeta	new	02:02
samorai	hi! gye	02:02
BrianV	sebsebseb: well, / I would have. But /home I was trying to save	02:02
sebsebseb	BrianV: delete the Fedora / and start over with an Ubuntu /	02:02
Mike_lifeguard	will: or use find and tell it to unzip them	02:02
gmap	Ahadiel: would this work? "$apt-get install \| cat pkg.list"	02:02
terr_	gogeta: a 701 is fine too	02:02
samorai	wher's I can get Ubuntu.fr	02:02
BrianV	sebsebseb: that's the problem. The disk has a / and a /home partition, both EXT4. The installer doesn't see them	02:02
Darck1	so - something is setting my rez to 800x600 when I log in... but we don't know what...	02:02
gogeta	terr 900a has a atom but the celroms are not bad	02:03
BrianV	sebsebseb: it just sees one big unrecognized partition	02:03
Ahadiel	gmap, that doesn't make sense. You would pipe the output of cat pkg.list to apt-get if anything.	02:03
Mike_lifeguard	will: confirmed, -r exists for gzip	02:03
sebsebseb	BrianV: the installer right, but manual install is pretty limited anyway	02:03
samorai	Ubuntu fr Please I want Link	02:03
Ahadiel	gmap, I'm not sure if apt-get reads from stdin	02:03
sebsebseb	BrianV: what about gparted? system > administaration > partition editor	02:03
gogeta	terr i can get 5 hrs off this 3 cell battery without wifi on	02:03
gogeta	3 with	02:03
BrianV	sebsebseb: checking...	02:03
gmap	Ahadiel: ok just wondering, your other way is working anyway.	02:03
VCoolio	gmap: dpkg --set-selections < path/to/file	02:03
Arkhalis	alright, i give up... no wired ethernet for me	02:04
terr_	gogeta: I'm just going to use it as a web server	02:04
gogeta	terr why you ask	02:04
gogeta	oh	02:04
will	Mike_lifeguard: I've tried gunzip *.gz -r and that is telling me no such file or directory.	02:04
infinity217	how do i turn off wifi on my eee h1000 (fn+f2 dont work) ?	02:04
Arkhalis	terr_: what was that dmesg grep bogo what?	02:04
terr_	gogeta: I don't even need a KB and screen.	02:04
Ahadiel	gmap, that's good.	02:04
BrianV	sebsebseb: Gparted sees them	02:04
Mike_lifeguard	will: no, give it the directory, and use -r	02:04
terr_	Arkhalis: I just want to know what the bogoips are on the atom cpu.	02:04
sebsebseb	BrianV: ok well this is how I do it :) well except last time when I tried the alternate CD out for my first time	02:04
Mike_lifeguard	will: gunzip -r /path/to/directory	02:04
gogeta	terr acer one or a eee ha more storage space unless you add a sd card or usb hdd	02:04
samorai	I want to Install Winrar because I have problem tu unzip rar	02:04
terr_	gogeta: I'd be happy with a broken one!!! LOL	02:05
Arkhalis	yeah just tell me what to type and i will tell you before i head out for work	02:05
infinity217	install unrar	02:05
sebsebseb	BrianV: step 1 set up the partitions in Gparted step 2 follow the installer through and finnish off in manual install, ticking format on the partitions and telling it what to use them as	02:05
scunizi	samorai: install unrar instead	02:05
terr_	gogeta: 8GBN is lots	02:05
geirha	Darck1: Just to make sure, go to System -> Preferences -> Display properties, set the correct resolution, click apply and close, then log out and back in again	02:05
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:05
terr_	gogeta: 8GB is lots	02:05
Arkhalis	cabrey: if you are still here in a bit i will get a pastebin for you when i get to work... when i have wireless access	02:05
will	Mike: I'm retarded. Thank you.	02:05
gogeta	lets switch to privat messags for this	02:05
infinity217	samorai: apt-get install unrar	02:05
Mike_lifeguard	will: no more than most people ^_^	02:06
Arkhalis	terr_: was it grep \| bogo or something?	02:06
samorai	thanks i test it	02:06
sebsebseb	BrianV: so much more control with gparted	02:06
suman	so here is the thing. i want to install bouml 4.12.* and that is only in the intrepid and jaunty version.... and in their sources.....	02:06
cabrey	Arkhalis, whats a bit? i'll be on here for a while but not straight through the night :P	02:06
infinity217	how do i turn off wifi on my eee h1000 (fn+f2 dont work) ?	02:06
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:06
terr_	Arkhalis: join us here: #gogeta	02:06
BrianV	sebsebseb: hmm. except they are LVM. So the installer won't recognize them	02:06
suman	can i add the sources to my hardy heron and do the install?	02:06
will	Mike: that worked perfectly. Thank you so much. Have a great evening.	02:06
sebsebseb	BrianV: maybe Ubuntu don't have LVM yet or something, Ubuntu is behind Fedora here and there always, it seems	02:06
samorai	thanks It's good	02:07
sebsebseb	BrianV: yeah Fedora is more cutting edge, later stuff before Ubuntu	02:07
infinity217	it's too fast to ask anything!	02:07
BrianV	sebsebseb: LVM has been around for 10 years. I imagine it has it, it's just not in the installer for some reason	02:07
laeg	cabrey: sometimes gnome takes time to update the menu ok, but you also think that after a relog it will reconigse pidgin as a command?	02:07
Arkhalis	i am there	02:07
sebsebseb	BrianV: ah ha maybe you need the alternate CD for LVM	02:07
laeg	cabrey: can't i even goto pidgin wherever it is and open it to see if it runs?	02:07
Darck1	checking .xsession-errors file and I find where it's changing the resolution, I've just got to find out why and how	02:07
jackmackg	hello ubuntuers	02:07
infinity217	hi	02:08
cabrey	laeg, it's in /usr/bin/pidgin	02:08
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:08
suman	hmmmm .... anyone??	02:08
Darck1	Checking screen 1Comparing resolution (800x600) to maximum 3D texture size (4096): Passed.	02:08
infinity217	any one?	02:09
Arkhalis	terr_: you there? i am in the channel but no one else is... gotta go in a few mins =p	02:09
infinity217	my eee issue?	02:09
Mike_lifeguard	!ask \| infinity217	02:09
infinity217	how do i turn off wifi on my eee h1000 (fn+f2 dont work) ?	02:09
ubottu	infinity217: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	02:09
sebsebseb	BrianV: the alternate CD has some advanced features that the standard desktop CD does not have	02:10
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:10
Arkhalis	infinity try this site	02:10
Arkhalis	one sec	02:10
sebsebseb	RkyRaccoon: what's that?	02:10
laeg	cabrey: it works when i open it like that directly	02:10
terr_	Arkhalis: /join #gogeta	02:10
RkyRaccoon	sebsebseb: its a program for learning programing	02:10
sully	Has anybody had any luck swapping the mappings of Alt/Option and Command on the apple keyboards on 9.04? I've read https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard, which indicates that Xmodmap no longer works and you need to use the Keyboard Preferences configuration tool. I've tried that, and it doesn't seem to work. Checking "Left Alt is swapped with Left Win" just causes them both to be mapped to Alt.	02:10
geirha	infinity217: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC/Fixes#Hotkeys	02:10
samorai	yes man I get it so Fine	02:10
RkyRaccoon	sebsebseb: i need it for my computer science class	02:10
BrianV	sebsebseb: ok, I may have to download and try that	02:10
samorai	I move	02:10
Arkhalis	https://help.ubuntu.com/community/EeePC	02:11
BrianV	sebsebseb: logging out	02:11
cabrey	laeg, have you tried logging in/out?	02:11
BrianV	sebsebseb: thanks for the help	02:11
cabrey	sully, yes i've done it	02:11
sebsebseb	RkyRaccoon: ah ok	02:11
sebsebseb	BrianV: np good luck	02:11
Apollo2366	hey guys, I'm trying to transfer files from a windows machine to my Jaunty machine on a crossover ethernet cable. I open network, Windows Network, WORKGROUP, and it gives an error message "Unable to retrieve share list from server" Am I doing it wrong?	02:11
RkyRaccoon	sebsebseb: alice.org is the site	02:11
sebsebseb	Apollo2366: Have you got Samba installed?	02:11
Arkhalis	terr_: i have to go to work however i will log in later to get the bogoips for you and answer your questions while i am at work whre i have wireless access	02:11
sully	cabrey: What did you need to do?	02:12
Apollo2366	Nope, Synaptic?	02:12
infinity217	i tried it too complicated, can i do it without hotkey?	02:12
lorph	is 5.1.30really5.0.75-0ubuntu10.2	02:12
lorph	is mysql really 5.1.30 or is it 5.0.75	02:12
lorph	i'm confused	02:12
VCoolio	Apollo2366: yes, and after installing "sudo /etc/init.d/samba start"	02:12
laeg	cabrey: brb :)	02:12
looter	Im using compiz and I can't figure out how to group similar items in the bottom panel, anyone helpe me out? I want it to behave similar to windows in how if I open a new browser window it will group it next to one that is already open	02:13
diffNewuser	hi guys, I need to compile a network driver for my kernel. What files do I need to grab?	02:13
diffNewuser	aside from the module source code	02:13
cabrey	sully, i changed the 'Alt/Win key behavior' to 'Left Alt is swapped with Left Win'	02:13
terr_	ArkoldThos: hey - thanks	02:14
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cabrey	sully, my layout is 'Generic 105-key (Intl) PC'	02:14
infinity217	i have installed the eee kernel but nothing wiyh yhe wifi!	02:14
sully	cabrey: I did that, and it just caused them to both be mapped to Alt.	02:15
* sully tries doing it and restarting X		02:15
infinity217	i use 8.10 with eee kernel i tried UNR but the hotkeys dont work too	02:15
infinity217	i tied it live UNR	02:15
sully	Unsurprisingly, that did not work.	02:16
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:16
gabriel_	Hello	02:16
infinity217	hallo	02:16
Darck1	AAAAAAAAAAAGH!	02:16
Darck1	This is driving me BATSHIT	02:16
Darck1	no matter what I do it resets the resolution to 800x600	02:17
gabriel_	I have a .mov file on Ubuntu 9.04 but when I opent it it appears: audio/x-gst-fourcc-Qclp decoder	02:17
gabriel_	Apple SMC decoder	02:17
gabriel_	and I cant hear any sound, how can I fix this?	02:17
RogueBond	I have a .mov file on Ubuntu 9.04 but when I opent it it appears: audio/x-gst-fourcc-Qclp decoder	02:17
RogueBond	and I cant hear any sound, how can I fix this?	02:17
FloodBot1	RogueBond: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	02:17
ArkoldThos	terr_, about what :O?	02:17
jlaroche	hello people	02:17
cybotron	Hello, does anyone know how to change mac address in ubuntu?	02:17
Darck1	that sounds like somebody up to no good... :-p	02:18
inx-live	hi	02:18
b0nn	ifconfig hw <addr> ?	02:18
inx-live	Anyone like CLI distros of Ubuntu?	02:18
RkyRaccoon	does anyone know how to install alice on ubuntu 9.04?	02:18
shark0der	hi all. can anyone tell me why I can't join #php ?	02:18
diffNewuser	inx-live: you mean like the server version ;)	02:18
inx-live	no, not server	02:19
jlaroche	I was wondering what the best way to completely remove open office? I just installed ubuntu netbook remix on a brand new eee and I want to thoroughly remove the 3.0.1 Open office that is installed by default and then install the 3.1.0 version which is available on the Open Office website...	02:19
inx-live	just no GUI	02:19
gabriel_	I have a .mov file on Ubuntu 9.04 but when I opent it it appears: audio/x-gst-fourcc-Qclp decoder	02:19
gabriel_	Apple SMC decoder	02:19
gabriel_	and I cant hear any sound, how can I fix this?	02:19
RogueBond	and I cant hear any sound, how can I fix this?	02:19
ArkoldThos	inx-live, is like... i hate to use sudo	02:19
Mike_lifeguard	RogueBond: Why are you repeating gabriel_?	02:19
wenko	help...I just lost some data on my HDD, from /usr/share how do I rebuild that?	02:20
gabriel_	Because I need some help	02:20
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Titan8990_	wenko, how did you "lose" it?	02:20
gohmifune	anyone know how to make a series of ennumerated zip files from corresponding folders in terminal?	02:20
Mike_lifeguard	gabriel_: once is enough	02:20
shark0der	hey. all people here I see need some help. is this a help chanel or there is one ?	02:20
jackmackg	Does any one know ware i can find a key-map of the number given when you press a key on a keyboard. like when i press space i get "150" returned.	02:20
wenko	Titan8990_: not important <blush>	02:21
wenko	Titan8990_: I ment to delete the skype dir but was up too far...	02:21
Darck1	oh good god can somebody PLEASE help me - just tell me what log files I can paste or whatever... but this is driving me crazy. Somewhere between the login screen and loading padevchooser it's changing the resolution to 800x600	02:21
inx-live	diffNewuser: INX has tutorials for beginnings, you can listen to shoutcast streams, chat, gmail, graphical links browers and even watch a video in framebuffer as well as view pictures	02:21
wenko	rm -r ./*	02:21
wenko	it was retarded	02:21
suman	alrite.... i have hardy heron and i want to install bouml 4.12. in the hardy heron universe there is onlu 3.* , but in jaunty universe, the latest version is present, how do i install the latest version	02:21
Brad_R	Hey ya'll :)	02:21
Titan8990_	wenko, your going to be saving yourself a lot of time if you backup and reinstall	02:22
sagaci	I'm getting this http://paste.ubuntu.com/201795/ error when downloading packages, can someone tell me exactly what i need to take out	02:22
diffNewuser	hey guys, I need help with this realtek driver compiling	02:22
Titan8990_	wenko, especially if /home is on its own partition	02:22
sully	cabrey: Hm. After I set that option, xmodmap reports that Super_L is mapped to both mod1 and mod4. Then, running "xmodmap -e 'remove mod1 = Super_L'" gets everything working the way I want. I find this very strange, and in direct contradiction to the Apple Keyboard page's claim that xmodmap isn't useful anymore. I'm somewhat confused, but everything is working, so...	02:22
sully	cabrey: Thanks.	02:22
wenko	Titan8990_: Thats what I am thinking...but im lazy	02:22
diffNewuser	and it's likely I don't have the correct stuff installed	02:22
ArkoldThos	is like most of ubuntu users use the same partition for all :p	02:22
wenko	frig just another reason for me to just go build a whole new system	02:22
cabrey	sully, heh np, the right alt/super key didn't do that for me :/	02:22
nsahoo	I am considering upgrading the video card. radeon cards used to have bad driver support on linux. are they still bad?	02:22
ArkoldThos	nsahoo, yes	02:23
ArkoldThos	very	02:23
nsahoo	hmm	02:23
KillGorack	hey, greets is there a partition editor in ubuntu?	02:23
nsahoo	any good nvidia card suggestions? budget under 100, want many windows open on dual screen	02:23
=== rachel is now known as Guest89277
ArkoldThos	nsahoo, something from series 9000 might run good	02:23
Apollo2366	KillGorack, Search Gparted in Synaptic	02:24
jlaroche	I was wondering what the best way to completely remove open office is? I just installed ubuntu netbook remix on a brand new eee and I want to Thoroughly remove Open office 3.0.1 that is installed by default, then install Open Office 3.1.0 (which I downloaded from the Open Office website).	02:24
KillGorack	I've installed that but can't find it in the menus heh	02:24
Titan8990_	wenko, well, any solution is going be very iffy	02:24
ArkoldThos	KillGorack, run it from terminal	02:24
calmbola	how can i get usb-imagewriter on 8.04?	02:25
Apollo2366	It's under System >> Administration, KillGorack	02:25
calmbola	i want to install 9.04 remix via usb	02:25
wenko	Titan8990_: I guess I will back up tonight and re-install	02:25
KillGorack	heh found it thanks! just wasnt called gparted	02:25
Apollo2366	np	02:25
wenko	Titan8990_: this was a HUGE n00b mistake	02:25
ArkoldThos	partition editor or some easy name that ubuntu people put on it?	02:26
KillGorack	yea that'sit	02:26
ArkoldThos	xd	02:26
wenko	sudo su == danger Will Robinson	02:26
Titan8990_	wenko, but from what I'm reading something like this: or pkg in `dpkg --get-selections\|awk '{print $1}'\| egrep -v '(dpkg\|apt)'`; do dpkg --force-all --purge $pkg; apt-get install --reinstall $pkg; done	02:26
jlaroche	I was wondering what the best way to Completely remove open office is? I just installed ubuntu netbook remix on a brand new eee and I want to Thoroughly remove Open office 3.0.1 that is installed by default, then install Open Office 3.1.0 (which I downloaded from the Open Office website).	02:26
Titan8990_	wenko, i personally wouldn't recommend it	02:26
diffNewuser	anyone have any familiarity with compiling the realtek driver?	02:26
laeg	cabrey: ty :) the synaptic version of pidgin now runs when pidgin is put into the cmd line! :) the only thing now is the shortcut not appearing in applications > internet, i did manually remove this earlier because i had been using it for my compiled version - but it had the icon etc and look as it's supposed to, how can i remedy this?	02:26
wenko	Titan8990_: I might try that after the backup :P	02:27
loof_	test	02:27
cabrey	laeg, what do you mean by remove? right click -> edit menus?	02:27
Titan8990_	wenko, ehh	02:27
laeg	cabrey: yes	02:27
jlaroche	anyone?	02:27
laeg	cabrey: i removed the pidgin one before the last uninstall and reinstall	02:28
Titan8990_	wenko, i meant to take out the: do dpkg --force-all --purge $pkg;	02:28
cabrey	laeg, go back there and recheck it	02:28
laeg	cabrey: what do you mean? it's not there..	02:28
entropy	I get an Authentication failure when I run su. I'm being told I need to import a pgp key. how do I do that? 9.04 iMac 7,1	02:28
cabrey	laeg, how did you remove it? uncheck it or click delete?	02:28
laeg	cabrey: both	02:28
Titan8990_	wenko, have to reboot new kernel	02:29
henkboom	when I try to hibernate I get errors like "/sbin/s2disk: invalid option -- 'x'"	02:29
cabrey	laeg, apt should've reinstalled the desktop file... hmm	02:29
wenko	Titan8990: aptitude is damaged	02:29
sagaci	is there a gui tool to configure those new black notifications?	02:29
dsdeiz_	when i do update-alternatives --config what does "*" and "+" mean?	02:29
cabrey	laeg, do alt-f2 -> killall gnome-panel	02:29
henkboom	it seems that /etc/acpi/hibernate.sh is calling s2disk with -x and -y parameters, which it doesn't like	02:29
cabrey	sagaci, not yet	02:29
henkboom	what's going on here? =(	02:29
wenko	my...ehem, "start bar" is empty	02:29
cabrey	wenko, this isn't windows, what does that mean?	02:30
laeg	cabrey: no change	02:30
jlaroche	I was wondering what the best way to Completely remove open office is? I just installed ubuntu netbook remix on a brand new eee and I want to Thoroughly remove Open office 3.0.1 that is installed by default, then install Open Office 3.1.0 (which I downloaded from the Open Office website).	02:30
cybotron	how to change MAC address in Ubuntu?	02:30
entropy	I get an Authentication failure when I run su. I'm being told I need to import a pgp key. how do I do that? 9.04 iMac 7,1	02:30
sebsebseb	jlaroche: there is probably a ppa for 3.0.1	02:30
q0_0p	macchanger	02:31
Darck1	okay - I give up, I'm either gone delete this user and do a different user or just put up with this shit	02:31
IdleOne	!pgp	02:31
ubottu	gpg is the GNU Privacy Guard. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto and class #8 on https://wiki.ubuntu.com/ClassroomTranscripts	02:31
sebsebseb	!ppa > jlaroche	02:31
ubottu	jlaroche, please see my private message	02:31
jlaroche	sebsebseb: Did you read what I asked?	02:31
sebsebseb	jlaroche: yes, but you don't just get stuff from websites with Ubuntu, that's the point I am trying to make here	02:31
sebsebseb	jlaroche: well you can, but not really a need if there's a ppa	02:31
cybotron	how to change MAC address????	02:31
sagaci	jlaroche: can you just remove the old open office via synaptic removal	02:32
q0_0p	sudo apt-get install macchanger	02:32
IdleOne	!mac	02:32
ubottu	To view your Windows/Mac partitions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AutomaticallyMountPartitions - For write access, see !NTFS-3g or !FUSE	02:32
cabrey	laeg, I can PM you the contents of the .desktop file	02:32
laeg	cabrey: sweet	02:32
jlaroche	sagaci: I know that, but there are so many packages - I want to make sure everything is completely removed	02:32
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:33
calmbola	how can i get usb-imagewriter on 8.04?	02:33
calmbola	how can i get usb-imagewriter on 8.04?	02:33
calmbola	sorry	02:33
shark0der	doesn't "apt-get install" update to the latest version ?	02:33
safag1	hi ,i just got google earth 5 ,but it always crashes ,is ter any bug ,how do i fixxit ?,i m on ubuntu 9.04	02:33
jlaroche	some people say sudo apt-get remove, other say sudo apt-get purge, and yet others say go to synaptec and "mark all for complete removal"	02:33
IdleOne	shark0der: sudo apt-get dist-upgrade	02:34
jlaroche	(god knows what "all" is when it comes to a giant program like open office	02:34
q0_0p	i use apt-get autoremove is that bad?	02:34
shark0der	IdleOne: thanks, i'll know for future )	02:34
safag1	hi ,i just got google earth 5 ,but it always crashes ,is ter any bug ,how do i fixxit ?,i m on ubuntu 9.04hi ,i just got google earth 5 ,but it always crashes ,is ter any bug ,how do i fixxit ?,i m on ubuntu 9.04	02:34
jlaroche	i have a valid point here I believe... but its funny that no one can weigh in	02:35
shark0der	but can anyone tell when pidgin 2.6.0 will be available? with new authentification on yahoo I mean...	02:35
jlaroche	wow...	02:35
calmbola	anyone know how i can "burn" an image file onto usb?	02:35
RequinB4	i guess since i'm here anyway... jlaroche why are you removing ooo	02:36
IdleOne	jlaroche: they all work to certain degrees I guess but I havent used ubuntu in 6 months, just reinstalled today so...	02:36
safag1	hi ,i just got google earth 5 ,but it always crashes ,is ter any bug ,how do i fixxit ?,i m on ubuntu 9.04 ,anyone who has faced this problem ? or know d soln ?????????	02:36
shark0der	calmbola: what about to extract it onto usb drive?	02:36
jlaroche	....	02:36
jlaroche	bye	02:36
calmbola	shark0der, i want to install ubuntu remix from it	02:37
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calmbola	not sure what your question is asking?	02:37
safag1	hi ,i just got google earth 5 ,but it always crashes ,is ter any bug ,how do i fixxit ?,i m on ubuntu 9.04	02:37
IdleOne	!patience > safag1	02:37
ubottu	safag1, please see my private message	02:37
shark0der	calmbola: www.pendrivelinux.com/usb-ubuntu-netbook-remix-install/	02:38
shark0der	maybe it will help?	02:38
shark0der	calmbola: on google there are a lot of information about around this	02:39
xine	Hi, my OpenOffice.org and Firefox think I'm in the UK (spell-check-wise) but 'locale' and GDM and so forth all say en_US, using 8.10. Any tips? I've been searching around and only found a really old bug.	02:39
Gnea	okay, why isn't pulseaudio being updated to 0.9.15 in jaunty yet?	02:39
sebsebseb	Gnea: ,because it does not count as a security update?	02:40
sebsebseb	Gnea: only security updates from those repos	02:40
Gnea	sebsebseb: yeah, well, it keeps on crashing and the only known fix is 0.9.15 and the bug's already been reported	02:41
sebsebseb	Gnea: well maybe there's a ppa for it	02:41
Gnea	maybe there is...	02:41
linuxguy2009	Hey guys I was just downloading Cairo-Dock and the plugins, and all the themes and stuff they have.I got all of them working but I have no clue as to what the musicPlayer themes are for or if i even need them.Did the RhythmBox applet replace an older music player applet or something anyone know?	02:41
sebsebseb	!ppa > Gnea	02:41
ubottu	Gnea, please see my private message	02:41
Gnea	unfortunately, there is not.	02:41
bobo	ok so I have a major problem, I'm trying to reinstall ubuntu 9.04 but ii keep getting a "grub failed to install fatal error" message	02:43
terr_	I forget how to display the size of the HDD in a machine	02:43
bobo	and I can't boot into anything because my grub is messed up	02:43
telestrial	Hi. I'm currently wondering if there is a way to check if a router is mishandling the ipvf6 protocol ? I travel often to very specific places for work and there are two routers where I can't even load pages in Ubuntu. However, on my Windows partition everything works out okay.	02:44
Aacron	hey anyone in here know anything about brug?	02:44
linuxguy2009	bobo boot with live image and use gparted to wipe the drive maybe?	02:44
bobo	linuxguy: I've tried that, in fact im on a live USB right now, but I'm dual booting with vista and I dont wanna delete it	02:45
bobo	but i might end up doing that	02:45
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:45
cognitiaclaeves	Does jaunty play well with vmserver2 yet?	02:45
Aacron	I'm having a very odd issue, and I think that grub is seeing isn't what it sees once an OS is loaded... I have a SiiG Sil0680 PCI-PATA card cause I only have one IDE channel on the motherboard...	02:45
evandro-sp	meu ubuntu 9.04 está travando muito, alguém tem alguma solução?	02:45
bobo	and just have ubuntu on my comp	02:45
linuxguy2009	bobo Oh well cant help ya there.Good luck.\	02:45
bobo	ok thanks anyway	02:45
Ursinha	evandro-sp, vai no #ubuntu-br :)	02:46
Aacron	I finally got ubuntu to load with grub (put on primary IDE), but now I cant load my windows XP	02:46
bobo	How do I reinstall grub?	02:46
soreau	! grub \| bobo	02:46
ubottu	bobo: GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	02:46
evandro-sp	ir onde?	02:46
Ursinha	!br \| evandro-sp	02:46
ubottu	evandro-sp: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Obrigado.	02:46
BryanC	is there a way to close a stuck dialog box like in windows? (i.e. Alt-F4)	02:47
soreau	! grub > Aacron	02:47
ubottu	Aacron, please see my private message	02:47
xu	anyone know how to use 'fsck' in a lvm partition?	02:47
bobo	soreua: what?	02:47
nellmathew	anyone know if there's a way to add a "search" box to the panel?.. like google desktop but the textbox is on the gnome-panel?	02:47
evandro-sp	Desculpe, não entendi, é a primeira vez que entro aqui	02:47
arpi	hi, are there any wget experts?	02:47
soreau	Aacron: You probably need to add a Windows entry to your boot loader file, /boot/grub/menu.lst	02:47
Gnea	!ask \| arpi	02:47
ubottu	arpi: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	02:47
Ursinha	evandro-sp, faz assim: /j #ubuntu-br	02:47
soreau	arpi: No, just ask your question ;)	02:47
evandro-sp	fazer isso onde?	02:48
Aacron	soreau: its there, but I think the hd(#,#) thing is wrong	02:48
RogueBond	soreau: its there, but I think the hd(#,#) thing is wrong	02:48
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:48
Aacron	and what it sees in ubuntu isn't right	02:48
soreau	Errr...	02:48
Ursinha	evandro-sp, na janela onde vc está digitando agora	02:48
cognitiaclaeves	how can I install vmware server 2 in jaunty? Is there a 'how to' ?	02:48
evandro-sp	#Assim?	02:48
Gnea	!english \| evandro-sp	02:48
ubottu	evandro-sp: The #ubuntu, #kubuntu and #xubuntu channels are English only. For a complete list of channels in other languages, please visit http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InternetRelayChat	02:48
Aacron	I can use the SGD to manually boot to it but if I try to use the repair functino it blows up and does a complete hard-lock	02:48
arpi	ok, I'd like to use http://www.google.co.uk/sendtophone?...le&gl=GB&hl=en as a pager. I know google stopped their free sms service. This website only sends a message about how to start using Google services to your mobile if you give them your number. So the idea is that if something happens in a program I would be notified via this service.	02:48
Ursinha	Gnea, I'm explaining him how to join the other channel	02:48
soreau	Aacron: Well, do you know which partition you have what installed where?	02:48
Mike_lifeguard	Can someone please quiet RogueBond? This is ridiculous.	02:48
telestrial	I'm having connectivity issues. I can't use an internet connection in ubuntu because it's so slow, but in Windows the connection works exactly how it's supposed to. Any suggestions?	02:48
evandro-sp	#Fiz certo?	02:48
Aacron	yep :P	02:48
Aacron	can I PM you?	02:49
Ursinha	evandro-sp, não, digite assim:	02:49
Aacron	this scrollign will drive me batty	02:49
Ursinha	/j #ubuntu-br	02:49
Ursinha	evandro-sp, sem o espaço	02:49
RequinB4	!wireless \| telestrial	02:49
ubottu	telestrial: Wireless documentation can be found at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/WifiDocs	02:49
Apollo2366	Hey guys, I'm connected to a windows machine on a crossover ethernet cable, I have Samba installed and running, and when I attempt to open a public share, it gives an error message "Could not display "smb://cory-pc/michael/". File is an unknown type."	02:49
tyk3	I'm having a really irritating time with my network connection. Whenever I turn my PC on, the network manager fails to connect to the wired network. Clicking on it in network manager manually just makes it time out. However, if I reboot the PC, it connects automatically on boot, no problem.	02:49
tyk3	I've tried disabling network manager, but no dice. It still won't connect till I reboot it. I have absolutely no idea how to go about de-bugging this, and no idea what could be causing it. I'm using 9.04, and the router is using DHCP. None of the other PCs connected to it have this problem, whether they're wireless or ethernet. Does anyone have any ideas?	02:49
xine	Hi, my OpenOffice.org and Firefox think I'm in the UK (spell-check-wise) but 'locale' and GDM and so forth all say en_US, using 8.10. Any tips? I've been searching around and only found a really old bug.	02:49
Gnea	tyk3: get rid of networkmanager and install wicd	02:49
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bobo	My grub folder is missing, how do i get it back?1	02:50
Gnea	tyk3: sudo apt-get install wicd it'll take care of it all for you	02:50
BryanC	anybody?? i just need a simple key combo or terminal comand to close an active window	02:50
terr_	I _DO NOT_ BELIEVE THIS: http://www.drives.net/scsihard.htm <--- they want $225. I've got dozens of them	02:50
n0gear	BryanC: alt+f4	02:50
Gnea	terr_: please take it to #ubuntu-offtopic	02:50
tyk3	wicd is a wireless manager is'nt it?	02:50
Gnea	!info wicd	02:50
ubottu	wicd (source: wicd): wired and wireless network manager. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.9-2 (jaunty), package size 247 kB, installed size 1860 kB	02:50
nellmathew	is tracker disabled by default in jaunty?	02:50
BryanC	n0gear: hmm, i tried. but it didnt work.	02:51
JohnnyBGoode	hello	02:51
JohnnyBGoode	can anyone help me with crossover?	02:51
Gnea	!anyone \| JohnnyBGoode	02:51
ubottu	JohnnyBGoode: A large amount of the first questions asked in this channel start with "Does anyone/anybody..." Why not ask your next question (the real one) and find out?	02:51
xine	thanks again for nothing #ubuntu	02:51
n0gear	BryanC: Check System - Preferences and Keyboard Shortcuts	02:51
JohnnyBGoode	where do i go to get the application?	02:51
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:52
vkumar	any people using 9.04 who have intel graphics here?	02:52
bobo	Requin: try googling it, idk	02:52
maxagaz	how to check which version of ubuntu do i have on a server	02:52
bobo	vkumar: I have intel graphics	02:52
Gnea	!info \| vkumar	02:52
ubottu	'vkumar' is not a valid distribution: dapper, dapper-backports, hardy, hardy-backports, intrepid, intrepid-backports, jaunty, jaunty-backports, karmic, karmic-backports, kubuntu-backports, kubuntu-experimental, kubuntu-updates, medibuntu, partner	02:52
ubottu	vkumar: Retrieve information on a package: !info <package>	02:52
bobo	they work great	02:52
vkumar	maxagaz: cat /etc/lsb-release	02:52
n0gear	BryanC: and Close Window	02:52
Gnea	er uh	02:52
Gnea	!intel \| vkumar	02:52
ubottu	vkumar: Ubuntu 9.04 has a known regression for some Intel graphics support. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/X/Troubleshooting/IntelPerformance and http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1130582 for more information.	02:52
BryanC	is there a similar program to "taskmanger" in ubuntu? Maybe i could close the stuck dialog box that way.??	02:52
vkumar	bobo: is your xorg working well?	02:52
bobo	yeah, it works fine	02:53
vkumar	bobo: nvm, thanks	02:53
bobo	yep	02:53
BryanC	n0gear: is close window a command??	02:53
maxagaz	vkumar, what does lsb stands for ?	02:53
Gnea	BryanC: alt-f4 is rather universal for that	02:53
vkumar	maxagaz: not sure. linux standard base?	02:53
bobo	BryanC: system>admin>system monitor	02:53
JohnnyBGoode	what is the command to get Crossover?	02:53
BryanC	gnea: yeah, i tried that one	02:53
JohnnyBGoode	I have jaunty 9.04	02:53
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:54
IdleOne	need help getting flash player to work? I installed the necessary packages from synaptic and restarted the browser but still doesn't work	02:54
RequinB4	JohnnyBgoode go to their webside, either complile their source or buy it from them	02:54
jon_high9000	Hi. I have a problem with my Nvidia driver. has anybody had consistant dimming in the graphics when using the drivers? if so, anybody have any ideas on how to correct it?	02:54
bobo	IdleOne: Try ‌installing from the adobe site	02:54
JohnnyBGoode	there isn't a terminal command?	02:55
JohnnyBGoode	and its not free????	02:55
laeg	cabrey: didn't work mate	02:55
IdleOne	bobo i'll give it a shot	02:55
nellmathew	IdleOne.. goto Applications, Add/Remove... and install the "ubuntu-restricted-extras"	02:55
bobo	good luck	02:55
IdleOne	nellmathew: will do	02:55
bobo	IdleOne: what nellmathew said, forgot about that	02:55
Malygos	hello	02:57
Malygos	can anyone help me with my broken usb drive? write protect is on :(	02:57
maxagaz	vkumar, ok thanks	02:57
evandro-sp	#ubuntu: Instalei o ubuntu em minha máquina, 256mb de ram e está muito lento	02:57
bobo	Malygos: try formatting it	02:58
kneeskrap3r	guys I need some iPhone help and the devs over there aren't responding	02:58
kneeskrap3r	can anyone help with a jailbreak	02:58
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I stillg et an authentication error upon running su.	02:58
rz187	everytime i run updates on opensuse 64-bit, my video card stops working...any ideas???	02:58
evandro-sp	#ubuntu: alguém sabe o que posso fazer para deixar mais rápido?	02:58
rz187	sorry not open suse	02:58
rz187	unumtu	02:58
rz187	ubuntu*	02:58
Malygos	bobo: still can't	02:58
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	02:58
bobo	hmm..... did it come like that?	02:59
bobo	or did you do something to it?	02:59
Malygos	nope	02:59
Malygos	because of shitty windows virus	02:59
bobo	oooo	02:59
bobo	is there anything on the drive?	02:59
JohnnyBGoode	I need some assistance with rosetta stone	02:59
JohnnyBGoode	can anyone help?	02:59
Malygos	i got it all backed up	02:59
vagothcpp	How do you boot ubuntu in runlevel 3? I need to install some graphics drivers	02:59
Malygos	vagothcpp: telinit 3 ?	03:00
vagothcpp	GDM still runs in 3	03:00
hari_	+CANON LBP 2900B PRINTER CANT ADD PRINTER. PLS HELP TO INSTALL DRIVER FOR UBUNTU 9.04	03:00
bobo	I'm not an expert, sorry the format thing was all i had	03:00
Malygos	its okay	03:00
rz187	!nvidia	03:00
ubottu	For Ati/NVidia/Matrox video cards, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BinaryDriverHowto	03:00
vagothcpp	I was told 3 but its still in GDM	03:01
vagothcpp	Does ubuntu livecd x64 come with gcc?	03:01
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b4rb4	hi, have brazilians here?	03:03
RogueBond	hi, have brazilians here?	03:03
vagothcpp	Is there a way to install an ASUS Wireless car in ubuntu (PCI)	03:03
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JohnnyBGoode	can anyone help with Rosetta Stone?	03:04
coler	does anyone use krfb?	03:04
hari_	PLS EMAIL me the details to install canon lbp2900b on my ubuntu9.04@brahmanpc @gmail.com	03:04
coler	is there a way to always allow connections, instead of going to server and click accept connections	03:05
b4rb4	i need a help about manage groups, how to able on jaunty... someone help me?	03:05
FFMike	anyone know how to add ansi emulation to the shell?	03:05
FFMike	went to a telnet site and couldn't see it :/	03:06
bobo	How do I get my grub folder back, I deleted it	03:06
luis_	hola alguien sabe que programa puedo usar para imprimir fotos en ubuntu pero que imprima la fecha y la hora tambien	03:06
coler	is there a better server client	03:06
usr13	b4rb4: Edit /etc/group	03:06
soreau	! grub	03:06
ubottu	GRUB is the default Ubuntu boot manager. Lost GRUB after installing Windows? See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestoreGrub - GRUB how-tos: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GrubHowto	03:06
b4rb4	<usr13> ok dude, i try to do this, thanks!	03:07
rz187	I guess the updated drivers dont work with my configuration	03:07
rz187	gay	03:07
setuid	Where do I specify which modules get unloaded at suspend and reloaded at resume time?	03:07
usr13	bobo: You deleted /boot/grub/ ?	03:07
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bobo	yes out of stupidity, dont ask. just, how do I get it back	03:07
n0gear	which progman to play .swf files?	03:08
FFMike	no one knows how to add ansi emulation?	03:08
hari_	anyone know how to add canon lbp2900b printer on ubuntu email me at brahmanpc@gmail.com	03:08
usr13	bobo: I don't know ha ha that's the first time I've seen that one.	03:08
bobo	usr13: thanks...	03:08
b4rb4	usr13 and after?	03:09
coler	anyone recommend a vnp that doesnt take too much memory	03:09
usr13	bobo: You might try dpkg-reconfigure grub	03:09
bobo	ok ill try	03:10
usr13	b4rb4: log out and back in, and/or restart any effected service as needed	03:10
bobo	nope	03:10
bobo	no joy	03:10
vagothcpp	Has anyone sucessfully compiled the ASUS WL-138G v2 sucessfully?	03:10
rz187	!antivirus	03:11
ubottu	Antivirus is something you don't need on !Linux, except where files are then passed to windows computers (perhaps using samba), See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Antivirus	03:11
b4rb4	user13: ok... but what i want to edit on /etc/group?	03:11
usr13	!openvpn \| coler	03:11
ubottu	coler: OpenVPN is a vpn technology in Ubuntu, sudo apt-get install openvpn and then see http://openvpn.net/ and see the documentation "HOWTO" noting you have already installed it. ;-) It rocks!	03:11
FFMike	!ansi	03:11
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about ansi	03:11
FFMike	weak	03:11
bobo	!ubuntu	03:12
ubottu	Ubuntu is a complete Linux-based operating system, freely available with both community and professional support. It is developed by a large community and we invite you to participate too! - Also see http://www.ubuntu.com	03:12
usr13	b4rb4: Huh?	03:12
setuid	Ubuntu, from the ancient African word for "Can't install Debian" :)	03:12
bobo	ahhaah	03:12
FFMike	exit	03:13
usr13	setuid: Ubuntu is the African word for "Debian is too hard for me" :)	03:13
setuid	So nobody knows? Where do I stuff modules I need to rmmod at suspend and modprobe at resume time?	03:13
b4rb4	usr13: what i edit on this /etc/groups?	03:13
nsahoo	is there a way to check the power supply capacity of the computer?	03:13
nsahoo	without opening it up	03:13
usr13	b4rb4: I don't know, you tell me? (What are you trying to do?)	03:13
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setuid	nsahoo, /sys/bus/platform/drivers/smapi/smapi	03:13
vagothcpp	How can I install ndiswrappers without internet?	03:14
b4rb4	usr13: sorry man, my english is poor... hehehe	03:14
usr13	vagothcpp: Plug a thumb drive into one that does and download the deb	03:14
nsahoo	setuid: don't have the smapi there	03:14
vagothcpp	i have none that have internet	03:14
dsdeiz_	how is opera 10b for you guys?	03:14
setuid	nsahoo, install it	03:14
nsahoo	setuid: don't have to restart, right?	03:15
setuid	nsahoo, noe	03:15
b4rb4	usr13: i'm trying to tell you what i need edit for the manage groups show me enable?	03:15
Trader	hi	03:15
nsahoo	setuid: install smapi?	03:15
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setuid	nsahoo, Yes, install the smapi support for your distro	03:15
usr13	b4rb4: Tell me more.	03:15
nsahoo	setuid: is it in apt repo?	03:15
vagothcpp	Is there any other way?	03:16
nsahoo	setuid: can't find it in synaptic, there are some libs there	03:16
rz187	!spyware	03:16
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about spyware	03:16
setuid	no idea	03:16
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Malygos	can anyone help me with mysql server? i cant access it using other pc	03:16
loof	vagothcpp, : you're on the internet right now, dude	03:16
coler	anyone familair with krfb?	03:16
setuid	Malygos, is the port open?	03:16
Malygos	nmap says yes	03:17
vagothcpp	Yeh, with a jailbroken iPhone using wifi	03:17
b4rb4	usr13: well... one frien needs to enable the manage groups	03:17
Malygos	3306/tcp open mysql	03:17
loof	vagothcpp, : download it to your iphone and copy it to your machine that way. :P	03:17
telestrial	Hey. In ubuntu my internet connection is very slow...but in Windows it's the right speed. How can I resolve this?	03:17
loof	vagothcpp, : i'm assuming the iphone isn't a useless hunk of crap	03:17
b4rb4	usr13: he is going to system > adm > etc... and see that manage groups are disable...	03:17
vagothcpp	download it from?	03:17
loof	vagothcpp, : you said you needed to download an ndiswrapper, i'm assuming you know which one? :/	03:18
telestrial	Does anyone have any suggestions?	03:18
vagothcpp	not really	03:19
usr13	b4rb4: You mean System > Administration > Users and Groups ?	03:19
loof	vagothcpp, : http://sourceforge.net/projects/ndiswrapper/	03:19
ArkoldThos	terr_, there?	03:19
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	03:19
vagothcpp	and compile from source?	03:19
usr13	b4rb4: Tell him to click the Unlock button.	03:19
RequinB4	vagothcpp - ndiswrapper is in the repos	03:20
b4rb4	usr13: yeah, i'm follow this path what you write...	03:20
loof	vagothcpp, : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NDISwrapper read that if you don't understand it you're prolly better off not touching it	03:20
b4rb4	usr13: and, nothing is enable	03:20
MachinTruc	hi	03:20
usr13	b4rb4: Click on "Unlock"	03:21
vagothcpp	well asus wl-138G v2 doesnt compile and others have said that they've needed ndiswrapper	03:21
b4rb4	usr13: just put a root password, and its done?	03:21
usr13	b4rb4: user password	03:21
root_	toor	03:21
telestrial	Hi. Ubuntu is handling my wireless router correctly...when in Windows I get perfect speed...but with ubuntu I get little to NOTHING. Anyone know why?	03:21
MachinTruc	Could someone please help me test whether I've successfully set up openssh-server? I need someone to ssh to 76.71.172.220 on port 2223 and tell me if they see the Ubuntu banner.	03:21
runelind	I'm running a barebones installation of ubuntu, and according to the interwebs I'm supposed to be able to get CPU temperature via the command line by looking at /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/****/temperature - however on my system running an NVIDIA ION board, /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/ is empty, am I missing a package or is my motherboard incompatible?	03:22
loof	vagothcpp, : it didn't come with a linux driver? =S	03:22
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I stillg et an authentication error upon running su.	03:22
b4rb4	usr13: so... but just me use this OS on laptop... no have other user	03:23
vagothcpp	It does, but wont compile	03:23
usr13	b4rb4: (Ubuntu does not use root)	03:23
RequinB4	I'm consdidering buying a macbook pro with vista installed (i assume with bootcamp?) and i'm wondering if i can install ubuntu, how it will work with GRUB etc	03:23
usr13	b4rb4: What are you trying to do? What are we trying to fix?	03:23
usr13	b4rb4: What is your native language?	03:23
RequinB4	b4rb4 yes after unlock put in your user password	03:24
loof	vagothcpp, : what's the compile error?	03:24
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toter	RequinB4: You can run ubuntu on vmware	03:25
toter	that's what I do	03:25
RequinB4	toter isn't that resource intensive	03:25
RequinB4	the thing is i know i can make it work w/o the windows stuff	03:25
A\|i	any idea why i cannot run any kernel modules? (mysql is installed): sudo /etc/init.d/mysql status gives:sudo: /etc/init.d/mysql: command not found	03:25
RequinB4	i just need to do all 3	03:25
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I stillg et an authentication error upon running su.	03:26
toter	RequinB4: I can boot Ubuntu on my macbook pro using vmware in 12 seconds.. http://img35.yfrog.com/img35/4968/toterdesktopjaunty20090.png	03:26
vagothcpp	loof, im on windows forgot to copy, will do so and ocme back	03:26
kadoban	so...i can't seem to find the package in jaunty for tor. am i just blind, or is it really not there for some reason?	03:27
AceKing	Can someone help me with redistributing disk space?	03:27
toter	RequinB4: It's a macbook pro. it is resource intensive... but the macbook can handle it	03:27
CaneToad	My Nokia 6230i mobile died....anyone recommend any recent Australia/Euro phones that plays well with connection to Linux, GSM?	03:27
usr13	AceKing: Sure	03:27
RequinB4	toter: sweet	03:27
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I stillg et an authentication error upon running su.	03:27
b4rb4	usr13: portuguese man... sorry	03:27
AceKing	usr13: Thank you	03:27
loof	runelind, : what nvidia drivers are you running on your ion machine? you should be able to check the thermals right in the driver control panel under system-> administration (or system-preferences?) i forget which.	03:27
b4rb4	usr13: my english is not good	03:27
DIL	i have macbook pro xp on boot camp and ubuntu on virtualbox on the mac side	03:28
usr13	!portuguese \| b4rb4	03:28
ubottu	b4rb4: Por favor, use #ubuntu-br para ajuda em português. Para a comunidade local portuguêsa, #ubuntu-pt. Obrigado.	03:28
RequinB4	toter: since you have one, can the macbook pro work with 2GB RAM if i dedicate 2GB to the virtual machine?	03:28
n0gear	MachinTruc: seems to be down	03:28
b4rb4	usr13: thanks	03:29
loof	runelind: http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=article&item=nvidia_ion_linux&num=3 see here for reference	03:29
toter	RequinB4: I bought my macbook pro last week. It has only 2 GB. And with 2 GB, 1GB dedicated to ubuntu, the thing boots in 12 seconds! Imagine what you can do with 4 GB RAM and an SSD drive...	03:29
lowlycoder	has anyone managed to use frame buffer objects in opengl in unbutu 9.04? if so, can you post a tutorial?	03:29
AceKing	usr13: Where do I start?	03:30
loof	lowlycoder: are you using an ati card?	03:30
usr13	b4rb4: É bem-vindo	03:30
toter	RequinB4: I'm buying 2 more gigs of RAM next week	03:30
RequinB4	toter: nice. I'm also looking at the new ones	03:30
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Drobobot	hello	03:30
usr13	AceKing: pasbebin df	03:31
RequinB4	toter: how do you right click?	03:31
Drobobot	Can anyone help to change MAC address via ifconfig????	03:31
rz187	can someone help me? I am trying to figure out how to get the CPU monitor and set on the right of the first screenshot from this link.... http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210	03:31
markben	I'm having trouble getting trackerd running. I used Add/Remove programs to install tracker but I don't see a trackerd process running and I'm not getting any results back.	03:31
lowlycoder	has anyone managed to use frame buffer objects in opengl in unbutu 9.04? if so, can you post a tutorial?; i'm using a 15" MBP; nvidia card	03:31
lowlycoder	loof: ^	03:31
usr13	Drobobot: ifconfig eth0 192.168.1.x	03:31
markben	Any idea what I need to do to get trackerd?	03:32
usr13	Drobobot: ifconfig ethX 192.168.1.x	03:32
n0gear	Drobobot: MACaddress or IP address?	03:32
Drobobot	is this number MAC address?	03:32
Drobobot	MAC address	03:32
n0gear	Drobobot: u need to use macchanger to change MACaddr	03:32
Drobobot	i have to change it	03:32
hai	I forgot my pass, I entered rescue mode, drop to root shell.. ran passwd hai<enter> .. set new pass twice, .. reboot, I enter the login info.. but its just black after that.	03:32
usr13	Drobobot: Oh, MAC address, sorry, that was wrong.	03:32
toter	RequinB4: The Apple Store guys can show you how. It is very very simple. Instead of clicking the trackpad with one finger, you click it with two fingers	03:32
Drobobot	can you send it to me via file transfer?	03:33
n0gear	Drobobot: sudo apt-get install macchanger	03:33
Drobobot	no i have no inet working	03:33
AceKing	usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201813/	03:33
usr13	Drobobot: ifconfig eth0 down ; ifconfig eth0 hw ether 00:11:22:33:44:55	03:33
n0gear	:)	03:33
usr13	Drobobot: ifconfig eth0 up	03:33
RequinB4	toter: did you get them to setup the virtual machine? I'd rather do it myself unless there are other advantages	03:34
Aacron	soreau: hey... yeah that didn't work... if I change it to hd(1,0), it seems like it is goign to work but then my system hard-locks	03:34
Drobobot	ok thx i ll try	03:34
jli	hi, how to enable core dump for my developers?	03:35
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I still get an authentication error upon running su.	03:35
Filipok	greetings	03:35
usr13	AceKing: Also need to see fdisk -l	03:35
RequinB4	toter: anyway that basically solves my problems i guess it'll work out, thanks	03:35
toter	RequinB4: I'm not sure if they setup virtual machines. I did it everything myself. What's the fun of letting them do all the work?	03:35
Filipok	any chance i can get you guys to vote for my band?	03:36
RequinB4	toter: then again it is an apple	03:37
billing	gfffff	03:37
usr13	Filipok: No problem we will vote for it. What is your question? (about Ubuntu).	03:37
toter	RequinB4: it is an apple... so?	03:38
Filipok	usr13: I've pretty much got everything I need. no questions. if this is inappropriate, I apologize and will leave without a further delay or posting of link.	03:38
AceKing	usr13: I typed fdisk -l in terminal and nothing happened.. Did I type something wrong?	03:38
buttons840	Anyone know how to configure loopback recording on the alsa mixer sound driver?	03:38
DIL	sudo	03:38
usr13	AceKing: sudo fdisk -l	03:39
Trader	so is there a defrag utility for ubuntu?	03:39
rz187	can someone help me? I am trying to figure out how to get the CPU monitor and set on the right of the first screenshot from this link.... http://gnome-look.org/content/show.php/Slickness+Black?content=73210	03:39
usr13	Trader: No. It's not needed.	03:40
Trader	linux file system doesnt require defrag?	03:40
AceKing	usr13: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201815/	03:40
sebsebseb	!defrag \| Trader	03:41
ubottu	Trader: The default Ubuntu filesystem (ext3) is engineered to avoid fragmentation issues in most cases, see http://linkpot.net/behead/ for a simple example on how it achieves this.	03:41
markben	any advice on how to install trackerd? I've selected all the packages I can find in Synaptic but I can't find the trackerd binary or service in /etc/init.d	03:41
Trader	awesome	03:41
joez	where to install udevinfo to Xubuntu, I can't find it by aptitude?	03:42
jlaroche	okay... need some help here. I uninstalled open office 3.0.1 on my system. Then I downloaded 3.1.0 from the open office site 9the deb package). I then installed 3.1.0 (by unpacking the tar.gz and running sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the main directory and in the desktop integration dir). Unfortunately the program does not work. It crashes over and over and can't open any files. I want to uninstall it but it is no where to be found	03:42
jlaroche	in synaptec and all attempts to run "apt-get purge" or "apt-get remove" have failed (the system says that no such package exists).	03:42
sam_	Can anyone , recommend any good linux games or windows games that work well on wine. would be much appreciated :-)	03:43
rz187	solitare	03:43
rz187	;p	03:43
markben	Diablo 2 and Starcraft run well on Wine for me.	03:43
OpensourceFTW	Urban Terror is pretty good	03:44
fireball	hey all, my user permissions are "wrong", please advise. . . upon start up i receive a message about my .dmrc file being ignored, need 644 permissions and users $home folder not writable by others. . .	03:44
markben	I needed to add the Wine repository to get Diablo 2 working though, the Wine version in Ubuntu had problems during install.	03:44
sam_	diablo 2 haven't played that in years	03:44
sam_	yeh OpensourceFTW i have ut :D	03:44
OpensourceFTW	runs on all platforms too	03:44
markben	+1 to UT	03:44
OpensourceFTW	works well with multiple monitors too	03:44
sam_	nexuiz4.51	03:44
sam_	is not bad.. just been playing that	03:44
rz187	is there something better to use then xchat	03:45
sam_	pidgin! rz187 :D	03:45
OpensourceFTW	lol	03:45
jlaroche	okay... need some help here. I uninstalled open office 3.0.1 on my system. Then I downloaded 3.1.0 from the open office site (the deb package). I then installed 3.1.0 (by unpacking the tar.gz and running sudo dpkg -i *.deb in the main directory and in the desktop integration dir). Unfortunately the program does not work. It crashes over and over and can't open any files. I want to uninstall it but it is no where to be found	03:45
jlaroche	in synaptec and all attempts to run "apt-get purge" or "apt-get remove" have failed (the system says that no such package exists).	03:45
OpensourceFTW	pidgin is too hard	03:45
A\|i	why cannot I start/stop kernel modules as root?!	03:45
rz187	i have that but i dont like it for irc	03:45
sam_	hard?	03:45
sam_	why is it hard..	03:45
OpensourceFTW	lol just kidding	03:45
sam_	:P nice name btw	03:45
OpensourceFTW	thanks	03:45
sam_	anyone play wow? lol.	03:46
DS28	check out Transgaming's Cedega	03:46
entropy	I have imported my pgp key, yet I still get an authentication error upon running su.	03:46
OpensourceFTW	ive wanted to but never got around. Im scared id like it an then have to pay every month lol	03:46
rz187	how do i create a perform in xchat grrrr	03:46
usr13	AceKing: use gparted Make sda2 smaller, move sda3 down, move sda4 down and make it larger, make sda5 larger	03:46
DS28	I think that's just for the updates.	03:47
DS28	not sure though	03:47
fireball	hey all, my user permissions are "wrong", please advise. . . upon start up i receive a message about my .dmrc file being ignored, need 644 permissions and users $home folder not writable by others. . .	03:47
entropy	can someone point me to a better cahnnel for pgp key authentication errors?	03:47
OpensourceFTW	im ready for new diablo to come out	03:47
fireball	kde updater don't work either, i think it's related	03:47
entropy	channel*	03:47
DS28	me too D3 looks pretty cool	03:47
usr13	fireball: $HOME is not supposed to be writable by others.	03:48
AceKing	usr13: How do I get gparted to run? It tells me Root priveleges required	03:48
entropy	or maybe a channel with more knowledgeable people of the su command?	03:48
Flannel	AceKing: gksu gparted	03:48
OpensourceFTW	yeah it looks like a whole lot of action going on	03:48
AceKing	Flannel: thank you	03:48
usr13	AceKing: If it is installed, just run it. If not download the bootable CD version.	03:48
sam_	I installed the game and the huge stack of expansions get to the last. DVD it wont open with wine? i ripped, The dvd to my pc... and mounted the iso but it has some layer protection.. and its only showing 2MB file the game is world of warcraft wraith of the lichking < lol :/	03:48
jlaroche	well thanks for the non-help. I figured it out myself	03:49
usr13	!gparted \| AceKing	03:49
ubottu	AceKing: gparted is a !GTK/!Gnome !GUI partitioning program. Type « sudo apt-get install gparted » in a console to install it - A GParted "live" CD is available at http://gparted.sourceforge.net/livecd.php	03:49
OpensourceFTW	ive never had too much luck with wine	03:49
markben	DS28: I'm remembering when D2 ruined my productivity during exams back in first year uni.	03:49
Flannel	entropy: You'll be better served if you give all the details--you imported your key to what? What are you trying to accomplish? (heck, first off, why are you using su instead of sudo?)	03:49
OpensourceFTW	god bless them for trying though lol	03:49
sam_	if anyone has it installed please give me some advice to get it to load :-(	03:49
KDesk	Where can I get Firefox for 64-bit?	03:49
fireball	usr13: how do i fix please, i tried the permissions from properties, so far no luck	03:49
DS28	hahaha	03:49
sam_	trying and going around in circles	03:50
usr13	fireball: I do not understand your situation. You will need to tell us more about your situation.	03:50
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usr13	fireball: Tell us exactly what you are trying to do, or what is wrong, and/or what caused the problem.	03:51
ZykoticK9	rz187, still want to know how to get that system montior?	03:51
SinDerEla	I need SIS 630 accellerator drivers	03:51
OpensourceFTW	i would recommend crossover from code weavers. You have to tinker with wine to much	03:51
fireball	when i log in, i get a message that states my ,drmc file is being ignored etc. I think this is also why my kde updater isn't working and backtraces "unusable", because of weird write permissions somewhere	03:52
Aacron	anyone in here know grub very well? I'm having an issue and the #grub peeps are not very gregarious in there... :(	03:52
entropy	Flannel: I used this guide https://help.ubuntu.com/community/GnuPrivacyGuardHowto after getting an Authentication error. I followed it all the way to Mail. I am trying to install by this link: http://quitte.de/dsp/caps.html#Installation	03:52
fireball	it says i need 644 permissions ???	03:52
Lunar_Lamp	Aacron: don't ask to ask, just ask :-)	03:52
DIL	fireball: i am just recovering from what you are asking google it - one of my 3 drives crashed installed a new one and got the dmrc message i had to reinstall and copy over home folder files	03:52
scunizi	fireball: sudo chmod 644 <path/to/file/or/directory>	03:53
usr13	Aacron: What are you trying to do?	03:53
Aacron	okay I have a wierd situation	03:53
deww	fireball: make sure your home directory isn't world readable	03:53
OpensourceFTW	did you encrypt any of you drives	03:53
fireball	dil: thanks, trying it now	03:53
ZykoticK9	rz187, "sudo apt-get install conky", then download the conky theme off that same link and run conky with "conky -c 74972-conkyrc"	03:53
Aacron	I have a sil0680 ide-PATA card that I use cause I have only one IDE onboard	03:53
markben	Figured out my tracker problem. trackerd is installed in /usr/lib/tracker/trackerd.	03:54
Flannel	entropy: What command are you using to get the gpg error?	03:54
markben	It's only started when you login not like the other services.	03:54
DIL	fireball: i installed on the new drive not over the existing	03:54
Aacron	and before, I had ubuntu on the 0680, but grub woudln't boot at all... I changed the drive order, and re-installed, and not grub loads and will boot up linux, but will not load windows	03:54
ZykoticK9	rz187, FYI conky when run in the root window won't show up if you have Compiz's wallpaper feature turned on	03:54
entropy	Flannel: su	03:54
sebsebseb	sam_: #winehq is usually better for Wine stuff	03:54
cornwall	Aacron: Is windows still on the list?	03:54
Aacron	i've read all i can find on it and I cant figure it out	03:54
Flannel	entropy: Ubuntu doesn't use su. Use sudo instead.	03:54
Aacron	yeppers	03:54
Aacron	and I can mount my windows partition in ubuntu	03:55
OpensourceFTW	put your windows disk in and reload your bootloader	03:55
entropy	Flannel: Done and done, thank you	03:55
Flannel	entropy: you know that caps is in the repositories already, right?	03:55
OpensourceFTW	google it for exact instructions	03:55
Aacron	although ubuntu doesn't see my RAID set (game and backup drive)	03:55
OpensourceFTW	ive had to do it before	03:55
entropy	Flannel: yes, and I did install it before installing this.	03:55
Lunar_Lamp	Aacron: do what OpensourceFTW says - you want something like /fixmbr from memory	03:55
Aacron	ubuntu sees it as two seperate HDs that are empty :(	03:55
cornwall	Aacron: I've read about that problem somewhere.... I think it was on the FAQ of the Supergrub wiki. I'll see if I can find it.	03:55
Aacron	if i do that then I lose ubuntu :(	03:56
Flannel	entropy: Alright, I must not understand the question then, but glad you figured it out.	03:56
Aacron	grub to boot ubuntu anyhow..	03:56
AceKing	usr13: I have 125 gb of unallocated space. When I click on ones you told me, the resize option is not available	03:56
Aacron	if in the grub menu, i edit the entry for windows to hd(1,0), it says starting up, but then my system hard-locks :(	03:56
DIL	drive cannot be mounted	03:57
OpensourceFTW	When dual booting I recommend unplugging other system drives while installing a new os. That way in the future the bootloaders dont get messed up.	03:57
Aacron	yeah	03:57
Aacron	that is actually what I had to do	03:57
Aacron	I dotn have a working floppy	03:57
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OpensourceFTW	just press F12 to select what drive to boot into	03:58
Aacron	so I coudlnt' isntall xp while it was on the 0680	03:58
Aacron	need to be able to put in the driver disk for windows	03:58
scunizi	Aacron: is windows on the second harddrive in the first partition?	03:58
Aacron	so I installed windows on the motherboard IDE , then moved it to the 680 and put ubuntu on the primary IDE	03:59
cornwall	Aacron: here's some FAQs from the SuperGrub Wiki that has the sort of question you have:	03:59
cornwall	v	03:59
cornwall	http://www.supergrubdisk.org/w/index.php5?title=Boot_Problems#Windows_Boot_Problems	03:59
FloodBot1	cornwall: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	03:59
Dishtroyer	I need help installing my fax modem. Its a PCTEL. I tried figuring it out myself but I'm just not good enoug.	03:59
Aacron	erm... this would be a better description of what I've been dealing with (forum post) once sec	03:59
Aacron	cornwall, SGD hard-locks my system too :(	03:59
scunizi	Dishtroyer: is it a usb modem?	03:59
Aacron	one sec	03:59
cornwall	Aacron: You mean, just BEING in SGD locks it? O.o	04:00
Aacron	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1194252 is the post that describes what I'm dealing with	04:00
Aacron	nope	04:00
Aacron	but running th e'automagic repair' does :(	04:00
Dishtroyer	(scunzini) no, its a PCI card	04:00
Aacron	and tryign to boot windows does	04:00
Aacron	:((	04:00
Aacron	right now though it just says erorr 17 or 22... cant remember :))	04:00
cornwall	Aacron: Well, all I can do is show you those questions. They seemed relevant. I don't know much about GRUB more than the basics	04:01
cornwall	Aacron: Sorry I can't be of more help	04:01
Aacron	its okay :P	04:01
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Aacron	thanks for tryin' :P	04:02
n2diy	Testing, just setup Pidgin on Jaunty.	04:02
Guest90862	dil: it's fireball, back again. chmod 644 killed that user completely!	04:02
Aacron	i just dont understand it :( ubuntu sees the drive, can even mount and peruse my windows drive	04:02
Aacron	oh is there a way to turn off the enter/leave message on pidgin? killin me	04:03
scunizi	Dishtroyer: not all modems are created equil.. the vast majority and almost all pci cards are software modems. Your chances of getting it to work are I hate to say.. slim. I had the same problem. I needed outbound fax capability.. (new post hang on)	04:03
Guest90862	dil: "kstartupconfig4 does not exist or fails. The error code is 3. Check your installation"	04:03
DIL	fireball: i installed on the new drive not over the existing	04:03
Guest90862	hmmm. What's my best option?	04:04
scunizi	Dishtroyer: so after trying 2 external serial modems and 5 different pci modems from various era's, I brokedown and spent $49 for a usb modem that said it supported linux.. If you'd like a link to what I got I'll give it to you.	04:04
DIL	fireball: i then copied files from home folder to new install - the tutorial did not work forme	04:04
Aacron	scunizi: wow external serial modems were software modems? din't think is possible :(	04:05
KDesk	Where can I get Firefox 3.5 for 64-bit in Jaunty?	04:05
n2diy	Ok, Pidgin has command line completion, does it have up arrow command recall like xchat-gnome?	04:05
KDesk	Or can I copy the one from Karmic?	04:05
Dishtroyer	scunizi: before you do that, have you seen http://linmodems.technion.ac.il/pctel-linux ?	04:05
Guest90862	so make sure i've got this right please, because somehow my write permissions are wrong, my only option is to recreate the user from scratch? Seems a bit excessive]\	04:06
scunizi	Aacron: some are and some arn't.. I use to have an external that worked but it failed after a couple of years.. the replacement was from the same company and similar but didn't work. I've seen the link,, tried and tried.. nothing..	04:06
FoxMulder	hi all...	04:06
Dishtroyer	scunizi: some documentation I recevied from the ubuntu website.	04:06
Drobobot	Hey I have changed MAC address by ifconfig, but after reboot it brings back the older MAC addr...How can i change it permanently???	04:07
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ericindc	Anyone familiar w/ GNU screen know how I can start a window and cd it to a different directory?	04:07
usr13	Drobobot: Put commands in /etc/rc.local	04:07
OpensourceFTW	change it in your router	04:07
scunizi	Dishtroyer: the 3 externals I've tried were all us robotics.. one worked, one didn't and replaced both with a 3rd.. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16825104006	04:07
OpensourceFTW	then power off your router and modem	04:07
DIL	Drobobot: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MAC_address	04:08
Drobobot	usr13: that willmake it permanent?	04:08
usr13	Drobobot: Yes	04:08
Drobobot	usr13: THANX MUCH!	04:09
Dhdo74	hey everyone what will stop the beeping noises on my laptop	04:09
usr13	Drobobot: That will change the MAC address after each reboot	04:09
usr13	Drobobot: NP	04:09
entropy	Where is my local .asoundrc alsa configuration file?	04:10
Dishtroyer	scunizi: well, my problem is my windows crashed. I can't even boot to it. I tried to put the hard drive into an external usb case and boot to it and grub gives me an error 18. I tried and tried to figure out how to get ubuntu to recognize the PCTEL but failed. I finally grabbed a junk HD off my shelf, loaded windows just enough to get online.	04:10
petafile	So I dual boot and use a fakeraid mirror. One of my drives had a temporary crash while I was runding windows, so I rebuilt it with the intel tool, and now ubuntu won't boot because my /dev/mapper/whatever partition doesn't exist. HOw do I fix that?	04:10
BePhantom	hi all, i'm going to install jaunty in a P4 with 1GB of RAM, I'm not going to use hibernation, which size should choose for Swap partition?	04:10
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OpensourceFTW	2gb	04:11
Dishtroyer	I wish ubuntu was as easy as windows	04:11
OpensourceFTW	ITs easier in alot of ways	04:12
usr13	Dishtroyer: What do you mean?	04:12
BePhantom	is 478MB of swap enough for 1GB of RAM?	04:12
usr13	Dishtroyer: Ubuntu is easier than MS Windows!	04:12
cornwall	BePhantom: I'd give it 1 GB, personally	04:12
OpensourceFTW	yes but you prob dont need that much	04:12
Dishtroyer	With windows, you click "add hardware and it goes pretty much all by itself	04:12
BePhantom	cornwall, but i never hibernate	04:12
OpensourceFTW	be sure to use ext4 filesystem	04:13
cornwall	BePhantom: ah, missed that :)	04:13
BePhantom	cornwall, is 478 enough?	04:13
usr13	Dishtroyer: What hardware are you adding?	04:13
OpensourceFTW	prob not	04:13
BePhantom	maybe less?	04:13
unikon	whats the cmd to upgrade pidgin isnt it sudo apt-get upgrade pidgin please correct me if im wrong	04:13
Hylian	hey, nothing too serious to say, just wanted to say i replaced windows vista with ubuntu 8.04 a month ago, and no complaints. it makes windows look sick.	04:13
Dishtroyer	usr13: PCTEL fax modem	04:14
nicha_caem_	ai	04:14
n2diy	Dishtroyer: and it is just as easy to catch something with Windows too.	04:14
nicha_caem_	alo	04:14
cornwall	BePhantom: I'd still put a little more PERSONALLY, but I think that would be enough	04:14
FoxMulder	java -version show me the correct version 1.6.0, but in /etc/jvm there's no mention to 1.6.0...is this rigth? http://paste.ubuntu.com/201827/ thanks all...	04:14
Dishtroyer	n2diy: only if you aren't careful	04:14
JohnnyBGoode	I need help with my usb microphone	04:14
OpensourceFTW	I would say use 2gb. Because if you using 64bit its going to use more ram than 32bit. Especially firefox	04:14
bastidrazor	unikon, having yahoo troubles with pidgin?	04:15
petafile	Is there a channel devoted to dmraid topics?	04:15
friendishan	!yum	04:15
ubottu	Uh, don't you mean !apt ?	04:15
el_americano	does 2.27.2 work with yahoo? I get an instant "Network error"	04:15
el_americano	sorry, empathy 2.27.2	04:15
unikon	yes im using the previos version 2.5.6 how can i upgrade to the latest	04:16
bastidrazor	!yahoo \| unikon	04:16
ubottu	unikon: At the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com and see if that helps.	04:16
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cornwall	Hylian: are you new to Ubuntu?	04:16
nicha_caem_	ai	04:16
sebsebseb	unikon: Ubuntu only do security updates from the repo, so you need ppa's	04:16
nicha_caem_	aloha	04:16
Hylian	oh one more thing before i go, im so glad gnome apps arent all gnotepad and gnautilus. (wink wink kde dudes)	04:16
sebsebseb	unikon: or to compile yourself or whatever	04:16
bastidrazor	unikon, also they are working getting the fix for this out as soon as possible. currently the upgrade isn't available.. you can install the fix from a deb if you want it	04:17
sebsebseb	!ppa > unikon	04:17
ubottu	unikon, please see my private message	04:17
maco	er...kde apps aren't all k* nowadays	04:17
el_americano	That's why I moved to empathy, but it failed with msn. Then I tried the PPA version, and yahoo is failing again.	04:17
joshthecoder	there are some gnome apps with g*	04:17
joshthecoder	gedit	04:17
friendishan	!apt	04:17
ubottu	APT is the Advanced Package Tool, which together with dpkg forms the basic Ubuntu package management toolkit. Short apt-get manual: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AptGetHowto - Also see !Synaptic (Gnome) or !Adept (KDE)	04:17
friendishan	ok	04:17
unikon	thanks sebsebseb	04:18
sebsebseb	unikon: np	04:18
bastidrazor	unikon, if switching your paging server doesn't work you could install with the .deb :: http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-Yahoo-problem-in-Pidgin-114754.shtml	04:18
el_americano	I want to revert from the PPA empathy version, but removing the ppa repo and updating didn't do anything.	04:19
BGL-[e]	i tried loading 9.04 live on an older toshiba (celeron-m) laptop today and the mofo took forever then froze every time :(	04:19
BGL-[e]	toshiba satellite, don't have the exact model though	04:19
BGL-[e]	pretty sure it's not having hardware issues as windows wasn't having any freezing or anything	04:20
cornwall	el_americano: did you try 'sudo apt-get autoremove' and 'sudo apt-get clean' as well?	04:20
BGL-[e]	i was bummed, i need a live cd to help w/getting some data off the (spyware'd & trojan'd) hd	04:20
JohnnyBGoode	i need help with a usb headset	04:20
JohnnyBGoode	any help?	04:20
BGL-[e]	think you can get a usb sound card of sorts and plug a headset into that	04:21
Ademan	does anyone know of an ls like tool (or an ls flag) that will make its recursive output list the directory structure more like a tree?	04:21
bastidrazor	Ademan, you could just install 'tree'	04:21
bastidrazor	!info tree	04:22
ubottu	tree (source: tree): displays directory tree, in color. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.5.2.1-1 (jaunty), package size 29 kB, installed size 96 kB	04:22
el_americano	kirby@macbuntu:~$ sudo apt-get autoremove	04:22
el_americano	Reading package lists... Done	04:22
el_americano	Building dependency tree	04:22
el_americano	Reading state information... Done	04:22
el_americano	0 upgraded, 0 newly installed, 0 to remove and 0 not upgraded.	04:22
el_americano	kirby@macbuntu:~$ sudo apt-get clean	04:22
FloodBot1	el_americano: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	04:22
Ademan	thanks bastidrazor sounds good	04:22
bastidrazor	el_americano, you would need to uninstall and reinstall the applicatino	04:22
cornwall	el_americano: now install empathy	04:22
JohnnyBGoode	any help with a USB headset?	04:23
usr13	Ademan: bastidrazor There's also midnight commander	04:23
el_americano	removing empathy didn't remove any dependencies, so very little is getting removed. I will try again.	04:23
bastidrazor	el_americano, after removing the ppa do sudo apt-get update	04:24
usr13	Ademan: bastidrazor See: http://www.midnight-commander.org/	04:24
usr13	Ademan: bastidrazor It's in the repos. sudo apt-get install mc	04:24
JohnnyBGoode	Can anyone help me get my microphone working?	04:25
el_americano	OK, now it wants to go back to 2.26.1, but: Depends: libempathy-gtk19 but it is not going to be installed and Depends: libempathy23 but it is not going to be installed	04:25
usr13	JohnnyBGoode: Check to make sure it's not just muted.	04:26
Apollo2366	Hey, when I put a disk in my CD/DVD drive, Ubuntu doesn't do anything at all. When I try to open Places >> Computer >> CD-RW/DVD+RW it just gives an error message: "Unable to mount location."	04:26
JohnnyBGoode	usr13 i can't hear anything in it	04:26
JohnnyBGoode	usr13 its a headset with a mic	04:27
usr13	JohnnyBGoode: Check to see that it doesn't need to be plugged into another port.	04:27
JohnnyBGoode	i tried plugging it into another usb port	04:28
JohnnyBGoode	nothing	04:28
usr13	JohnnyBGoode: Oh, it's USB? Well, I can't help you there.	04:28
JohnnyBGoode	ok thanks	04:28
usr13	JohnnyBGoode: Get one that plugs into the sound card ports.	04:29
OpensourceFTW	is it just the microphone thats not working	04:29
Apollo2366	He left	04:29
OpensourceFTW	:\|	04:29
Dishtroyer	floodbot has joined #ubuntu	04:34
Zosh	hi	04:34
Apollo2366	Hey, Zosh	04:35
Zosh	just installed ubuntu.. I have 7.04	04:35
Zosh	I want to update	04:35
Zosh	but its giving me errors	04:35
Zosh	it says Could not download all repository indexes	04:35
Apollo2366	Open Applications >> Accessories >> terminal >> type "sudo apt-get update" and hit enter	04:35
koshari	Zosh why dont you install fresh	04:36
Zosh	I don't have extra cd	04:36
koshari	Zosh use a usb key	04:36
Zosh	Apollo2366: I did that but it has errors fetching	04:36
JayX	hey all!	04:36
bastidrazor	7.04 has reached end of life.	04:37
Zosh	:( can't I just upgrade?	04:37
ramael	hello, Im planning to buy me a new lap. it is Acer Aspire 5735Z-423, and it is not on the list of ubuntu, does anyone know if it is compatible???	04:37
bastidrazor	!eol	04:37
ubottu	End-Of-Life is the time when security updates for an Ubuntu release stop. See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Releases	04:37
mbennette68	Hi, is there any documentation on how to set the path on ubuntu or in which file the path is stored?	04:37
usr13	Apollo2366: Is your internet connection ok?	04:37
Apollo2366	Zosh, hold on	04:37
Zosh	Apollo2366: ok	04:37
koshari	Zosh it will take a lot longer and theres often the risk of probs when you skip a dist	04:37
Apollo2366	usr13, yeah why?	04:37
Zosh	hmm	04:37
cornwall	Zosh: I think it would be best in the long run to get your hands on another CD	04:38
n2diy__	Zosh: get the latest LTS version, 8.10, and then you can upgrade to 9.04.	04:38
JayX	IS THERE a way in ubuntu to change the tittle of the panel options (Applications, PLacce & System ) ? I want to make then shorter so i can dock more apps to my panel	04:38
koshari	Zosh you dont have a 1 gb or bigger memory stick?	04:38
ramael	I dont want to end up with stupid virows X3	04:38
Apollo2366	Zosh, try "sudo apt-get upgrade"	04:38
koshari	n2diy 8.10 isnt a LTS ver	04:38
n2diy__	koshari: I was afraid of that, can' find my notes.	04:38
JayX	ramael: whats a virows?	04:38
Zosh	Apollo2366: nothing happened..	04:39
Zosh	hmm wait I have an extra dvd-rw	04:39
Zosh	might wrok	04:39
Dishtroyer	<--- needs info on how to install a PCTEL modem	04:39
Zosh	what burner should I use?	04:39
Zosh	what burner should I use?	04:39
koshari	Zosh you dont have aa usb stick?	04:39
Apollo2366	Zosh, then download the 9.04 install iso	04:39
Zosh	koshari: it's full	04:39
Apollo2366	put in the dvd	04:39
koshari	Zosh save the info, use the stick and copy it back	04:40
JayX	IS THERE a way in ubuntu to change the tittle of the panel options (Applications, PLacce & System ) ? I want to make then shorter so i can dock more apps to my panel	04:40
Apollo2366	and use brasero if it's already installed	04:40
Zosh	err it's not..	04:40
cornwall	JayX: Right click on the panel and select "Add to Panel". There's a small "menu bar"	04:40
hikenboot	hello I setup ubuntu server with a non raided /boot directory and a raided / and /home directory with lvm so its raided and on lvm...On first boot it fails saying there appears to be more than one degraded raid devices...anyone know how to fix?	04:40
mbennette68	Hi, is there any documentation on how to set the path (persistently) on ubuntu or in which file the path is stored?	04:40
Ademan	usr13: as I understand it midnight commander is a full file manager really, all I want is dumping out a directory structure in this format: http://docs.python.org/distutils/setupscript.html#installing-package-data	04:41
hikenboot	i dont think there is a problem with the disks.	04:41
Zosh	koshari: hmm I'll try.. :(	04:41
hikenboot	I think its an installer bug	04:41
cornwall	JayX: er, sorry, it's called "main menu"	04:41
JayX	cornwall: now i know how to add an app, i want more viewing space!	04:41
koshari	Zosh you can use unetbootin to copy the iso onto the stick	04:41
Apollo2366	Zosh, well there should be something... if there's not, try finding a program in the repos if you can	04:41
hikenboot	using the 9.04 server disk	04:41
Zosh	Apollo2366: how?	04:41
el_americano	thanks cornwall and bastidrazor, I had to remove libempathys, gtks, and commons too, but it eventually reverted. Yahoo still doesn't work, but I'll keep messing with it. Maybe pidgin plus the new server will be the answer for a while, but empathy should be working.	04:42
Zosh	I can't use synaptic and sudo apt-get install wont install anything	04:42
cornwall	JayX: This isn't adding an app. the "Main Menu" is just a little Ubuntu symbol that will make things much more consolidated	04:42
kain	hi all, does anyone know of a site that publishes ubuntu or linux news and stuff like that (like pcworld is for windows)	04:42
JayX	cornwall: i want to change t5he tittle of the thing and make it shoerter eg. i want to change the "applications: to "apps"	04:42
Apollo2366	Zosh, hmm that sucks. Well just download the iso for now.	04:42
msl	mbennette68, You should have a look at ~/.profile if you want to alter your PATH	04:42
bastidrazor	el_americano, http://news.softpedia.com/news/How-to-Fix-Yahoo-problem-in-Pidgin-114754.shtml you could use this deb if !Y is still fubared	04:43
n2diy__	JayK right click on the panel, then properties, and you can adjust, umm, pixels I think?	04:43
mbennette68	cool thanks for your help :)	04:43
ramael	anyone knows if acer aspire 5735Z-423 is compatible with ubuntu????	04:43
n2diy__	kain: linuxjournal.com	04:44
bucky	hikenboot: is this with dmraid	04:44
OpensourceFTW	it should be	04:44
the-alchemist	If my system crashes hard, what actions can I take to diagnose the problem after reboot?	04:44
JayX	n2diy__: i want horizontal view, not vertical	04:44
hikenboot	i think the installer uses dmraid	04:44
hikenboot	its not hardware raid if thats what you mean	04:44
n2diy__	JayK right click on the panel, then properties, and you can adjust the location.	04:45
Apollo2366	Zosh, and keep asking back here. Someone more knowlegable than I will help you out.	04:45
el_americano	bastidrazor: Yes, I had pidgin working with the new server. I was just trying to move to empathy.	04:45
overlord	How do I install a deb for i386 architecture on a 64bit system ?	04:45
bastidrazor	el_americano, ahh.. cool glad the new server worked	04:45
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Apollo2366	So does anyone know why my CD/DVD drive won't read discs?	04:46
Guest66445	i still doont gei it	04:46
HowTo	How do I erase all iptables rules? I only have 2 so far.	04:46
JayX	n2diy__: cornwall Im looking to just change the title of the ubuntu menu i want the "Applications" to be "App;s" and "System" to be "Sys" (rename / abbreviate )	04:47
bucky	hikenboot: i stumbled thru the install in expert mode and made sure the partitioner accepted my raid type fs but the kicker was it asked me if i wanted the 'most' option for modules in the initrd	04:47
ramael	have anyone tried ubuntu on acer aspire 5735Z?	04:47
n2diy__	JayK ah, I'm clueless about that, I thought you meant changing stuff on there panel.	04:48
Apollo2366	ramael, try looking on youtube for it	04:48
arkhalis	terr_: You there?	04:48
Guest66445	its dificult for me to run exe. in ubuntu	04:48
lwizardl	hi	04:48
ramael	I did it apollo2366, but notting close comes up	04:48
media`	Ive never really used any linux other than a gnome desktop. I installed xubuntu on a laptop I have and when I set it up do I add the regular ubuntu repos	04:48
Apollo2366	ramael, Google search?	04:48
media`	or are there certain ones for xubuntu	04:48
lwizardl	does anyone know of a ftp client that can be set to limit downloads to 30 files	04:49
cornwall	JayX: I'm looking in the Gconf-editor and I can't find an entry	04:49
JayX	n2diy__ ok thnaksz and its JayX not JayK :P	04:49
Apollo2366	Guest66445, search Synaptic Package Manager for "wine"	04:49
Guest66445	thanks	04:49
Pici	!wine \| Guest66445	04:49
ubottu	Guest66445: WINE is a compatibility layer for running Windows programs on GNU/Linux - More information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Wine - Search the !AppDB for application compatibility ratings - Join #winehq for application help - See !virtualizers for running Windows (or another OS) inside Ubuntu	04:49
JayX	Apollo2366: what does "wine" really do may I ask? i been hearing about it alot these days	04:50
n2diy__	JayX, ok, sorry, don't get old, your eyes play tricks on you, GL.	04:50
Apollo2366	JayX, I don't really know a whole lot about it, but I guess it just imitates the Windows environment for software.	04:50
lwizardl	JayX, basically allows you to run some windows program on linux	04:50
Apollo2366	JayX, it stands for WINE Is Not an Emulator	04:51
JayX	lwizardl: when u say "some" you mean "some"? can i run/use .exe programs with WINE?	04:52
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Apollo2366	JayX, yes	04:52
cornwall	JayX: however, not all programs will work	04:52
bastidrazor	!appdb \| JayX	04:52
ubottu	JayX: The Wine Application DB is a database of applications and help for !Windows programs that run under !WINE: http://appdb.winehq.org - Join #winehq for application help	04:52
cornwall	JayX: some will work without a hitch, and some will just not ever run	04:52
lwizardl	JayX, yes you can, but some program have flaws. example DVDDecrypter	04:52
unikon	sebsebseb following the instructions on the softpedia yahoo problem in pidgin fix im using 8.04 LTS wich isnt listed but should be	04:53
JayX	Thanks! bastidrazor	04:53
andrewjackson	hey i am a complete noob to linux and was wondering if Ubuntu is a good distro to start on for a noob coming from WindowsXp	04:53
olskolirc	how do I play wmv in my firefox please? I need a free codec	04:53
bastidrazor	!codecs \| olskolirc	04:53
ubottu	olskolirc: For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats	04:53
arkhalis	terr_: BOO!	04:54
cornwall	andrewjackson: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/windows/C/	04:54
Dishtroyer	Anyoneknow the error codes for GRUB?	04:54
hikenboot	when it drops me to the shell it indicates both md devices are not active cat /proc/mdstat	04:54
losher	andrewjackson: Ubuntu is a very good choice for a noob. Make sure you get version 8.04.2 though	04:54
Apollo2366	So, anyone have an idea as to why my CD/DVD drive won't mount?	04:55
bastidrazor	Dishtroyer, http://www.uruk.org/orig-grub/errors.html	04:55
cornwall	JayX: I've searched around the configurations, I can't find any values that I can edit for that	04:55
Geometry	hey all whats a good dock system for ubuntu	04:55
bastidrazor	Geometry, AWN or Cairo-Dock	04:55
hikenboot	whats your cd not doing Apollo2366	04:55
Geometry	which would you preffer?	04:55
bastidrazor	Geometry, i prefer and use cairo-dock	04:56
JayX	cornwall: thanks for your help, perhapsthere is a way to change the text to icons? (app's, place, system??)	04:56
Geometry	where can i pick that up at?	04:56
andrewjackson	ok so if i completely delete my hard drive i could install ubuntu correct?	04:56
cornwall	JayX: did you even look at that little applet I told you about?'	04:56
arkhalis	check the repos Geometry	04:56
bastidrazor	!info cairo-dock	04:56
ubottu	cairo-dock (source: cairo-dock): A light and eye-candy dock to launch your programs easily. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.6.3.1-0ubuntu1 (jaunty), package size 312 kB, installed size 928 kB	04:56
Apollo2366	hikenboot, whenever I insert a CD, nothing happens at all, no error messages. Whenever I try to open Places >> Computer >> CD-RW/DVD+RW Drive it gives an error message: "Unable to mount location." That's it.	04:56
JayX	cornwall: yea playing with it now	04:57
jumentous	hi, at what point does a preseed file kick in at? it seems that i can set things like locale on the kernel command line (when remastering the cd) but when included in the preseed file they never get picked up	04:57
arkhalis	terr_: msg me	04:57
hikenboot	what happens when you umount /dev/cdrom0 and umount /dev/cdrom and sudo eject cdrom?	04:58
hikenboot	what kind of cdrom is it?	04:58
Geometry	i cant find it in the add move application section	04:58
bastidrazor	Geometry, sudo apt-get install cairo-dock	04:58
Zosh	how do I add permission to a windows drive?	04:59
Apollo2366	hikenboot, it's a DVD with images, music, and text files on it	04:59
Zosh	I want to put something to my windows drive	04:59
jumentous	last i checked cairo-dock was out of date, there is a repository on the website that you can use for latest version, though i checked a while ago	04:59
JayX	bastidrazor: is there a Database of all app's i can get for Jaunty by using "sudi apt-get install" ? ?	05:00
hikenboot	what happens when u do those 3 commands?	05:00
shiznebit	JayX: synatpic ?	05:00
olskolirc	!w32codecs	05:00
ubottu	medibuntu is a repository of packages that cannot be included into the Ubuntu distribution for legal reasons - See http://www.medibuntu.org	05:00
Apollo2366	hikenboot, h/o I'll run them	05:00
Zosh	Apollo2366: can ya help me out? :p	05:00
bastidrazor	JayX, you could look in synaptic at what apps are available based on what repo's you have enabled.	05:00
JayX	shiznebit: dont i have to add repo's to synaptic to vieew them	05:01
ctmjr	Zosh: tey this https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MountingWindowsPartitions/ThirdPartyNTFS3G	05:01
ctmjr	*try	05:01
JayX	bastidrazor: if i dont have a certain repo installed/enabled can i still get the app using terminal?	05:01
Zosh	k thanks	05:01
the-alchemist	Is /var/log/syslog the first port of call to diagnose a system crash?	05:02
n2diy__	JayX: many repos are in synaptic, but not all of them are enabled.	05:02
bastidrazor	JayX, synaptic and apt-get both use the same file for repo's .. so no.	05:02
shiznebit	JayX: no you have to add the repository for that certain app	05:02
bullgard4	What GNOME program provides the association or mapping of a key pressed to a character sent to the processor?	05:02
Apollo2366	hikenboot, sorry for the wait, the problem is actually on my friend's comp	05:03
hikenboot	ok so what happens when you run them on your friends computer	05:03
Apollo2366	hikenboot, He's running them now	05:03
hikenboot	ok	05:03
n2diy__	bullgard4: do you want to remap your keyboard, or just enter extended characters at will?	05:04
JayX	is there an online list of all repo's / apps ? ? ? shiznebit: n2diy__ bastidrazor	05:04
JohnL	Hey guys, I'm having a problem booting up the Ubuntu live cd, I keep getting errors, could someone help me out?	05:04
hikenboot	what he might try at a command line is sudo mount /dev/dvd -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0	05:04
n2diy__	JayX, I don't know, google might?	05:04
shiznebit	JayX: yea, just google PPA	05:04
shiznebit	JayX: yea, just google " PPA ubuntu "	05:05
Apollo2366	hikenboot, I'll pass it on, thanks.	05:05
JohnL	I keep getting "ACPI: Aborted because broken padding."	05:05
JohnL	Anyone have any ideas?	05:05
bastidrazor	JayX, be careful.. adding 3rd party repo's can lead to trouble.	05:05
JayX	bastidrazor: thanks will keep an eye out for 3rd party	05:06
bullgard4	n2diy__: After dist-upgrade to 9.04 my computer does not react or react wrongly to pressing arrow keys or the 'Alt Gr' key in GNOME. It is ok on the virtual consoles.	05:06
Datz	Hi when I run "sudo apt-get update" I get The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found	05:06
arkhalis	JohnL: Google is your friend, first response http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=968247	05:07
Apollo2366	hikenboot, bash:unmount: command not found	05:07
hikenboot	not unmount sorry umount	05:07
Apollo2366	oh lol k	05:08
n2diy__	bullgard4: hmm, don't know, you might want to look around in system>prefrences>keyboard?	05:08
JohnL	Gotcha. I've downloaded from so many different providers	05:08
JohnL	I suppose I'll have to try again	05:08
JayX	does anyoneknow how to tether an ipohoneso it can work with ubuntu?	05:09
JayX	iphone so*	05:09
BePhantom	hi all, how do i activate the old intrepid update notifier in jaunty?	05:09
BePhantom	the one that shows an icon in the deskbar	05:09
hikenboot	Apollo2366, what happens when you mount the insert the cdrom in your system	05:09
jumentous	does anyone know how to diagnose why a preseed files isn't being picked up?	05:09
hikenboot	sp /mount the insert/insert/	05:10
arkhalis	JohnL: be sure to do an md5 checksum on the image of your live cd to save yourself wasting countless cd's	05:10
n2diy__	BePhantom: Jaunty does that.	05:10
Apollo2366	hikenboot, sudo eject cdrom ejects the tray, as normal.	05:10
bullgard4	n2diy__: This opens the 'Keyboard Preferences' dialog. What is the command-line command to open the Keyoard Preferences dialog?	05:10
BePhantom	n2diy_ jaunty update will pop up, i want the old intrepid icon	05:11
n2diy__	bullgard4: I don't know?	05:11
BePhantom	how do i activate it?	05:11
hikenboot	can you try the cd in your system or is he remote	05:11
Apollo2366	hikenboot, is sp /mount the insert/insert/ litterally what I type?	05:11
Apollo2366	hikenboot, he's remote	05:11
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arkhalis	JohnL: Also, if you keep getting corrupt files, try using a download utility to account for lost packets and whatnot... if that helps check all your cables and router, you may have a bad connection somewhere	05:11
hikenboot	sudo mount /dev/cdrom -t iso9660 /media/cdrom0	05:11
n2diy__	BePhantom: can you right click on the icon, and change it in prefrences?	05:11
donny	does any one know how to uninstall thigs	05:12
BePhantom	n2diy_, no	05:12
Apollo2366	hikenboot, I think we got the drive mounted somehow	05:13
BePhantom	there's some command line thing i have to write but i dont remember exactly what	05:13
ZhouYu	donny : what is thigs ?	05:13
arkhalis	terr_: WAKE UP... before i slap you with a trout ><	05:13
hikenboot	great	05:13
hikenboot	good luck	05:13
arkhalis	lol	05:13
donny	zhouYu_i am trying tu uninstall wow how would i di that	05:13
Hobbit`	is there any way to set up some sort of chron job to call a command ever 10 minutes?	05:13
Datz	Hi when I run "sudo apt-get update" I get "The method driver /usr/lib/apt/methods/https could not be found" How can I fix this?	05:13
JayX	lollol @ arkhalis	05:14
ctmjr	donny: use wine to uninstall it	05:14
ZhouYu	donny : you can simply delete the folder, but if you install it from apt-get. you can simply type "apt-get remove name-of-the-software"	05:14
arkhalis	I love my job... beer, karaoke, and ubuntu /love	05:14
elky	!ot	05:14
ubottu	#ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	05:14
sabot_	Is there a way to view a program already running on a remote server through ssh	05:14
bullgard4	What GNOME program provides the association or mapping of a key pressed to a character sent to the processor?	05:15
petafile	How do I change the root path for grub boot lines? I can change /boot/grub/menu.lst, but that gets clobbered by update-grub	05:15
jumentous	3rd time lucky, preseeds, automated installs, anyone?	05:15
ZhouYu	donny : it's depend on how you install the program. if you use rpm then use the rpm to uninstall, if you compile it yourself then delete the folder.	05:15
n2diy_	sabot_: vncviewer.	05:15
donny	what would be the best way to install it again ?? i had a error message when i did it last time	05:16
andrewjackson	ok guys some people are telling me that Ubuntu teaches bad linux habits is that true?	05:16
sabot_	is the vnc server the remote?	05:16
unitheory	andrewjackson, absolutely	05:16
loof	jayx: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNQ6W_yUnII&feature=PlayList&p=F4C97023F46BB521&index=0&playnext=1 to see how to use your iphone in ubuntu as a modem	05:16
BePhantom	please anyone? i want to activate the old update notification icon in jaunty, i don't want this annoying pop up window, does anyone know how to do it?	05:16
elky	andrewjackson, did they provide examples?	05:17
JayX	loof thnaks	05:17
Apollo2366	This is kind of annoying, whenever I open an application, the top of the window is always under the top panel on my desktop. What's the problem?	05:17
loof	jayx: np	05:17
andrewjackson	no they didnt specify	05:17
andrewjackson	plus im such a newb not sure if i would know what they were talking about	05:18
elky	andrewjackson, then until they specify, don't worry about it. when they do, then come and ask specifically	05:18
Apollo2366	andrewjackson, I'm assuming they mean alienating people from the terminal in favor of a gui	05:18
n2diy_	andrewjackson: if they don't have specifics, then it is just hearsay.	05:18
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lucax	is there any program that changes desktop wallpaper and puts a new one from the web, so i dont repeat any wallpaper??	05:19
mbostwick	hello, whenever I try to boot up a Firefox addon or start a program in wine that uses opengl it fail's ...I think opengl is not working....can anyone help me with this ?	05:20
Dishtroyer	Is there any way to uninstall grub? or at least disable it?	05:21
Apollo2366	Dishtroyer, why would you want to do that?	05:21
ctmjr	mbostwick: in a terminal type glxinfo \| grep render	05:21
unitheory	Dishtroyer, if you do that you won't be able to boot from your hard drive	05:21
andrewjackson	guys can i use vmplayer to run ubuntu	05:22
mbostwick	a lot of: Xlib: extension "GLX" missing on display ":0.0".: one of: Error: couldn't find RGB GLX visual or fbconfig	05:22
BePhantom	please help me	05:23
linuxguy2009	Guys I cant remember what the default Ubuntu 9.04 window manager is, I installed Mac4Lin and I think I told it to change it by accident but not sure.Cause my compiz wont start.Whats the default window manager?	05:23
nztal	andrewjackson, i know how to untar a .tar.gz file from command line. a .bz2 file, i'd have to google it. however, in ubuntu i can right click and extract. i suppose, thats a crutch from memorizing how to extract .bz2 from a console. i should find me quick reference cheat sheet, save me the trouble of moving that extracted folder :)	05:23
unitheory	BePhantom, for what application?	05:23
unitheory	linuxguy2009, metacity and/or compiz	05:23
BePhantom	i just want the old update alert, the icon that's in the deskbar	05:23
linuxguy2009	ah thats right.Thank you.	05:23
Dishtroyer	When I connect my hard drive to my external usb case, grub gives me an error 18	05:23
ctmjr	mbostwick: did you install any graphic card drivers?	05:23
Dishtroyer	It wont boot	05:24
mbostwick	ctmjr: yes nvidia drivers	05:24
andrewjackson	nztal: sounds easier	05:24
arkhalis	ctmjr, mbostwick: thats what i was gonna say, doesn't sound like you have any drivers installed	05:24
BePhantom	how do i enable the old update alert in jaunty? like in intrepid	05:24
ecret	i need 20gigs of ram to run a program. Is it possible to use a part of a hard drive to emulate this ram? I realize this is probably a stupid question and apologize in advance.	05:24
unitheory	ecret, swap	05:25
arkhalis	20 gigs? what program uses that much? lol	05:25
mbostwick	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=866519 ...brb going to try this	05:25
ecret	some nlp stuff, program currently loads it into memory. i have a really big model.	05:25
ctmjr	mbostwick: try removing them and reinstalling	05:25
ecret	unitheory: I will google for swap, ty	05:26
mbostwick	ctmjr: tried that :( didn't work	05:26
unitheory	ecret, i mean you need a large swap partition	05:26
WIGGMPk	I am having an issue with Brasero and buring a DVD image..	05:26
ecret	unitheory: oh ok. but using that swap partition, I can make a fake ram drive? Is there a program or keyword that would help?	05:26
rizal	hello	05:27
unitheory	ecret, linux uses swap as ram if it needs to	05:27
rizal	i have problem about crontab	05:27
Ahadiel	ecret, That is essentially what swap is, fake ram.	05:27
Dishtroyer	I want to boot from my external hard drive but GRUB gives an error 18. What can I do?	05:27
arkhalis	ecret: swap is just a term for using a portion of your hard drive as ram... slower but allows for things like 20gb of ram	05:27
rizal	anybody	05:27
arkhalis	ecret: if you google for linux or ubuntu swap there are plenty of places out on google that tell you how to adjust your swap size	05:28
rizal	i have problem about crontab	05:28
stan_man_can	I don't want to start a flamewar here, but I"ve heard that Fedora is more cutting edge than Ubuntu. But I've been using fedora for the last day or so and it seems rather clunky graphically	05:28
rizal	the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.	05:28
WIGGMPk	I am having an issue with Brasero and buring a DVD image.. If I do not have the File/Image Checksum plugins selected, the ISO fails to burn to the DVD... it starts to burn the image and then completes the burn and finalizes the disc in like 5 secs...	05:28
ecret	ah ok . thanks i will do that!	05:28
stan_man_can	I'm running two video cards, a gtx-260 and a 9500gt, both nvidia, with 4 monitors	05:28
Apollo2366	stan_man_can, please stay on-topic	05:28
stan_man_can	How nicely will ubuntu handle it?	05:28
arkhalis	ecret: good luck, and come back for questions if you have any ^^	05:29
ecret	i thought i had to buy a 20 gig ram system . i am very glad. thanks unitheory,ahadiel,arkhalis	05:29
ctmjr	!ask\|rizal	05:29
ubottu	rizal: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	05:29
mbostwick	brb	05:29
loof	stan_man_can, : fedora's pretty crap from a multimedia/gamer perspective. you should try ubuntu	05:29
JayX	loof that video is a bit usefullll for me, but i need to know the bash file, or how to create n ad-hoc network so i can use my iphone 3g	05:29
arkhalis	ecret: i do have to say lol to that.... 4 5gb sticks of ram could be pricey =p	05:29
rizal	ok	05:30
rizal	i have problem about crontab	05:30
rizal	the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.	05:30
loof	jayx: try google :p	05:30
stan_man_can	loof: I'm rather new to linux and went with Fedora because I use CentOS for my servers, how different are the two?	05:30
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bucky	hikenboot: sudo dmraid -ay will activate	05:30
stan_man_can	loof: I'm not necessarily looking to play games, i'm just looking for something that might be a bit more stable and run a bit smoother than fedora is	05:30
Gold_bullet	i have an annoying problem, after installing the D-Link DWA-130 driver via ndiswrapper, Ubuntu keeps locking up when i try to use the driver for more than half an hour, does anyone know whats going wrong?	05:31
loof	fedora/centos are basically aimed more at serverside use, ubuntu is more of a desktop os (just in general)/what a lot of development time is spent on	05:31
bastidrazor	stan_man_can, burn a liveCD .. if you can get them set up in the LiveCD then you're all set.	05:31
losher	WIGGMPk: I can't fix brasero, but I can help you burn a DVD from the cli if you wish...	05:32
loof	stan_man_can, : have you had stability issues with fedora? and have you tried compiz in fedora?	05:32
WIGGMPk	losher: with growisofs?	05:32
losher	WIGGMPk: exactly!	05:33
WIGGMPk	losher: isnt Brasero using the same thing? just a front end?	05:33
mbostwick1	ok looking through some logs I found this http://pastebin.com/m38fac638	05:33
stan_man_can	loof: what about differences in how things are done, as in fedora/centos using yum, and ubuntu using aptitude, is it comparing apples to oranges...two completley different things... or is it comparing a granny smith to a macintosh apple... same thing just different name	05:33
arkhalis	gold_bullet: is the dwa-130 internal or external?	05:33
* Gold_bullet waits		05:33
Gold_bullet	external usb drive	05:33
bullgard4	What GNOME program determines the keyboard layout?	05:33
nellmathew	is there an app in gnome that i can use to pick up hex/RGB of colors under the cursor?	05:33
WIGGMPk	losher: its not that it doesnt 'work', its just annoying to have to wait that extra 30secs to create the file checksum, then to wait the 10mins for the image checksum to complete at the end is retarded	05:34
ecret	arkhalis: yeah...was going to also have to get a new mb/cpu too as mine just holds two sticks. i like linux	05:34
loof	stan_man_can, : depends on if you consider yum vs aptitude to be like comparing apples to oranges or comparing different types of apples :P	05:34
deagle	hello!	05:34
JayX	nellmathew: 0_o ? what do u want to do?	05:34
mikepark	BePhantom: was your question answered?	05:34
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: Hmm... perhaps a power or heat issue? i haven't the slightest	05:34
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, the d-link works fine for 30 minutes or a little bit more, but after that a severe system lockdown	05:34
andrewjackson	anyone know where i can get a vmware image of ubuntu to run in vmplayer	05:34
BePhantom	mikepark, no	05:34
Dr_Willis	nellmathew: many 'color chooser' dialogs in many apps have a 'eyedropper' that lets you do that.	05:34
andrewjackson	and yes i already googled	05:34
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: have you used it on a windows system for longer than 30 mins?	05:34
mikepark	BePhantom: gconftool -s --type bool /apps/update-notifier/auto_launch false	05:34
deagle	i'm on ircII, can anyone see this?	05:34
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, yes, hours on end	05:35
losher	WIGGMPk: you're preaching to the converted.... :-)	05:35
Dr_Willis	deagle: yes.	05:35
nellmathew	JayX, yeah what he said, i wanted an eyedropper =X lol	05:35
deagle	:D thanks!	05:35
arkhalis	ecret: glad we could help you save money then	05:35
nellmathew	thanks Dr_Willis	05:35
bastidrazor	andrewjackson, download the iso and install from that	05:35
BePhantom	mikepark, will that enable the old intrepid like update alert icon?	05:35
andrewjackson	ok	05:35
loof	stan_man_can, : if you consider it to be comparing apples to oranges, then ubuntu is pretty different from fedora, if you consider it like comparing types of apples, then it's not really that different. i'd say look at some videos of ubuntu on youtube and see if what they show are more along the lines of what you're looking for in an OS	05:35
WIGGMPk	losher: dont follow ya..? the converted AKA CLI?	05:35
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, the problem arose after i installed the latest Nvidea driver for my chipset	05:35
deagle	does anyone know how I can restart my window manager from outside (tty) without restarting GDM (i'm running openbox and I need to do openbox --restart)	05:35
mikepark	BePhantom: it should	05:36
losher	WIGGMPk: I just meant that there's no point complaining to me, because I completely agree with you. You could file a bug report, I suppose...	05:36
deagle	i did export DISPLAY=:0.0 and tried it but got nothing :(	05:36
BePhantom	mikepark, thank you!	05:36
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: unfortunately i haven't the slightest clue why that would happen >< other than an overheating issue but for an external drive that seems rediculous...	05:36
Gnea	deagle: from a console?	05:36
deagle	yep	05:36
Gnea	don't think that'll work	05:36
WIGGMPk	losher: and have them not fix it lol.. i heard some things about the debian team forking off of the cdrecord project and not doing as well because of some dispute.. however I also hear about the ubuntu burning team changing things...	05:36
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, perhaps an incompalability issue with linux for my modle of d-link?	05:37
WIGGMPk	losher: just sucks the user's got caught up in some drama	05:37
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: Hmm, the chipset would make sense with overheating but i doubt thats linked to the dwa-130	05:37
Gnea	you could start the X session with just an xterm and run from there	05:37
mikepark	BePhantom: you're welcome	05:37
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, well, the usb ports are bart of my chipset	05:37
Gold_bullet	*part	05:37
rizal	the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.	05:37
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: naa, if it's the wireless key i am thinking of, little black and gray one	05:37
WIGGMPk	losher: honestly they should of stayed with nautilus-cd-create or whatever.. but this is getting off topic lol.. thanks for the thoughts.. ill just use growisofs for now	05:37
Gold_bullet	yes	05:37
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, yah, its that one	05:37
deagle	Gnea: i just don't want to have the programs running die on me :( is there any way to prevent that?	05:38
Gnea	deagle: otherwise you'd need to allow X to receive remote requests, which it doesn't by default unless you've changed that behavior via gdm's config	05:38
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: I have the same one somewhere, used to use it for adhoc networking lol (don't ask)	05:38
Gnea	deagle: yes, run e16 or e17	05:38
deagle	wussat?	05:38
Dishtroyer	Wake me when someone answers my question...	05:38
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, mine sucks...badly	05:38
Gnea	!e17	05:38
ubottu	Enlightenment (or "E") is a window manager for X, providing a useful, and good looking graphical shell in which to work. E17 is the current development version.	05:38
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: try reinstalling it using ndiswrapper... or try charging a phone or something in the same usb port for some time	05:39
deagle	Gnea: oic	05:39
losher	WIGGMPk: the sad truth is, linux burning tools are inferior, like most of its multimedia stuff...	05:39
Gnea	deagle: e16, at the very least, allows you to restart the WM if it crashes (it self-heals)	05:39
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, phone? how will this help?	05:39
Gnea	so you never lose any running app	05:39
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: that will determine if it's the usb port or the wireless key... other than that perhaps someone else in here can help you more? try asking again	05:39
drmrhorse_	i broke my jackalope. after i updated compiz and a few other things today, my desktop fails to load. i get to the login screen, login, and the screen disappears and comes back. tried restarting x, rebooting, recovery mode with xfix. starting a console session then doing startx gets me a desktop with no sound. any ideas?	05:39
deagle	i like openbox better :$	05:39
roxan	lshw -C disk is not showing disk-2: but only disk-0: and *disk-1:	05:39
Dr_Willis	Gnea: it had to have that feature... due to how often it crashed.. :)	05:39
Gnea	it'll popup a window and say "oh hai! i just crashed! press F1 to restart!"	05:39
WIGGMPk	losher: almost brings a tear to my eye... linux... inferior.... the same sentence.... =*(	05:39
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: Like an ipod or a phone... something that draws power from the usb ports	05:40
Gnea	Dr_Willis: hehe yeah, now it's like, rock-solid	05:40
ctmjr	Dr_Willis: so true	05:40
lacrymology	is there a way to make btlaunchmany run up to, say, 3 downloads at a time?	05:40
Dr_Willis	Gnea: i try it every so often... then leave it for another year.	05:40
rameshwor	deagle: openbox is a desktop ? ..	05:40
losher	WIGGMPk: I know, but the first step to solving a problem is to acknowledge it... :-)	05:40
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, um, i dont have any thing like that... i only have a broken usb-led thing	05:40
deagle	rameshwor: a window manager	05:40
Gnea	Dr_Willis: i did that too for a couple of years... picked e17 back up late last year, haven't looked back since	05:40
rameshwor	deagle: so not a complete one like kde, gnome .. ??	05:41
justin`	anyone know any popular reasons internet connections don't work on ubuntu. My wireless internet disconnects every 5 seconds and it's so annoying	05:41
loof	gnea: enlightenment???	05:41
Gnea	loof: yes.	05:41
loof	gnea: people still use that?? =S	05:41
Dr_Willis	Enlightnment is slowly growing into a 'desktop' :)	05:41
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, i do have a game controller that draws power from the usb ports tho, and the flow is always constant	05:41
deagle	rameshwor: if by complete you mean overbloated windows clone, then no... it's not "complete"	05:41
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: hmm... dunno then >< I'm at a loss and I don't want to tell you to go buy a new wireless key and find out it's just your usb ports and you wasted money y'know?	05:41
philsf	my firefox is hanging pretty often. Is anyone here able to help me with a backtrace I got? http://pastebin.com/f42bbabd4	05:41
rameshwor	deagle: i mean is it in the same group of kde,gnome,xfce.. ?	05:42
arkhalis	Try that perhaps?	05:42
Gnea	loof: heh, it's the only one that has been crafted so well as to only require 100mhz and 64mb of ram anymore ;) well, other than fvwm2, fvwm95 and, uh, twm :) windowmaker might get away....	05:42
losher	andrewjackson: I see images at http://www.thoughtpolice.co.uk/vmware/. Perhaps you forgot to google?	05:42
loof	philsf: why not build a new version? 3.5 is like twice the speed of 3.10	05:42
deagle	rameshwor: i'm not jaded... just prefer to individually pick the apps I like that are more efficient, like rox-filer, openbox, etc...	05:42
Dr_Willis	rameshwor: Enlightment is not as complete as XFCE from what i used of it..	05:42
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, hmm....money....im 14...thats expensive XD	05:42
deagle	Gnea: and openbox! :D	05:42
loof	gnea: heh, true that, i guess =D	05:42
arkhalis	Gold_bullet: though that won't answer your question for sure but it will eliminate one possibility it's not the power draw on your usb ports	05:42
deagle	Gnea: built from straight C	05:42
arkhalis	AFK --	05:43
Gnea	deagle: that doesn't mean it runs efficiently on an original pentium or 486 :) it might...	05:43
=== arkhalis is now known as Arkhalis\|AFK
Gold_bullet	arkhalis, im still thinking that the driver is incompatible with Ubuntu, because it works perfectly in windows	05:43
deagle	Gnea: it runs awesome on my PIII :P	05:43
Gnea	deagle: heh	05:43
philsf	loof, Isn't there a package in jaunty?	05:43
deagle	untill I play too much with the menu settings :S	05:43
unitheory	vintage single-core processors?	05:43
deagle	\O/ ftw!	05:44
Arkhalis\|AFK	Gold_bullet: I was trying to figure out if it was your nvidia update or the wireless key that was the issue	05:44
deagle	barely needs a heatsink, much less a fah	05:44
deagle	*fan	05:44
Gnea	i like booting up jaunty with e17 on my sempron - time to gdm login: less than 20 seconds. time to full desktop: 1 second.	05:44
loof	philsf, : i assumed you were using that. if not, then yeah, update from a package =S	05:44
philsf	loof, I'm using firefox 3.0, the stable version	05:45
Gold_bullet	Arkhalis\|AFK, well, on windows this driver causes alot of problems...	05:45
WIGGMPk	Anyone use Pidgin along with MySpace IM? My account never connects	05:45
deagle	Gnea: speaking of which, where do I tell X to autoload my background? .xinitrc won't do the trick	05:45
Gold_bullet	Arkhalis\|AFK, like a full crash of the system	05:45
ziroday	WIGGMPk: #pidgin might be helpful, that and triple checking your login details	05:45
Gnea	deagle: i'm not sure with openbox... maybe try #openbox?	05:45
deagle	Gnea: openbox doesn't handle backgrounds	05:46
Gnea	deagle: have you tried Xsetroot?	05:46
deagle	hell, it barely gives you a menu to launch stuff from! :D	05:46
WIGGMPk	ziroday: ill check them out, past the login credentials	05:46
Arkhalis\|AFK	Gold_bullet: afk for a few, try asking others in the channel.. I really have no idea =p sorry	05:46
deagle	Gnea: oh yeah, it's just I have to do it manually when I log in since .xinitrc wont play nice	05:46
Gold_bullet	ok then Arkhalis\|AFK	05:47
* Gold_bullet attempts to fix the problem		05:47
ziroday	deagle: if you are using openbox then add the command to your openbox startup file	05:47
deagle	Gnea: I guess my real question is: where does ubuntu store info to launch apps from @ startup?	05:47
Gnea	deagle: iirc, it should go like this: line1: #!/bin/sh line2: Xsetroot -s /path/to/the/pic.jpg line3: openbox	05:47
deagle	ziroday: there's such a thing? o_O	05:47
Gnea	deagle: that's dependent on the desktop manager	05:47
Dr_Willis	deagle: depends on the desktop. :) kde and gmome both support session management, and the autostart directory	05:48
Dr_Willis	!autostart	05:48
ubottu	To add programs to start up when you log into your Gnome session go to System>Preferences>Sessions and use the Startup Programs tab. For more information, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/AddingProgramToSessionStartup - See !boot for starting non-interactive programs at boot	05:48
deagle	but i don't have a desktop manager :P	05:48
Gnea	deagle: so gnome/metacity carries that in ~/.gconf and ~/.gnome	05:48
Dr_Willis	deagle: teres always making your own .xinitrc or some other methods like we used years ago	05:48
Gnea	well then, you have to make them launch in the background in .xinitrc before launching your wm :)	05:48
ziroday	deagle: yes, http://icculus.org/openbox/index.php/Help:Autostart and #openbox on irc.oftc.net	05:48
loof	philsf, : just saying you can get much newer versions either from source or from debs: ie: http://webupd8.blogspot.com/2009/06/firefox-35-rc-1-ubuntu-repository-deb.html	05:49
deagle	ziroday: ooooh thank you!	05:49
Dr_Willis	Openbox has some sort of autostart dir/feature/script i recall also	05:49
Gnea	dangit, this soundcard is shot :(	05:49
ziroday	deagle: have fun	05:49
deagle	wait wait dont say stuff people! i need that URL	05:49
deagle	:P	05:49
Gnea	deagle: pm it to yourself	05:49
deagle	thanks! :D	05:49
WIGGMPk	Ok, I just finished burning a DVD image with Brasero (that completed successfully) and now my DVD drive with not mount blank disc's or software discs.. Please help.../	05:49
deagle	Gnea: i'm still on ircII :S	05:49
losher	WIGGMPk: power cycle it...	05:50
deagle	bleh, might as well restart X	05:50
Gnea	deagle: lol i use irssi, used ircII for years	05:50
deagle	how do i scroll up?	05:50
deagle	:S	05:50
n2diy_	deagle, can't you scroll up, to stop the auto scrolling?	05:50
Gnea	pageup?	05:50
deagle	nope	05:50
n2diy_	up arrow?	05:50
deagle	nope	05:50
deagle	scrolls to past comments	05:50
WIGGMPk	losher: I have "other" things running.. and thats not a solution.. it happens frequently..	05:50
deagle	pageup gives this: ~	05:51
WIGGMPk	losher: im encoding video's which take a long time... and I have a lot of DVD's to burn	05:51
Gnea	you'll either need a decent script or just use irssi	05:51
rameshwor	hey, isn't opening the iso with winzip,winrar and then burning the unzipped files to cd the same as burning the iso from nero or... i did the first one but xubuntu live cd didn't boot..	05:51
n2diy_	deagle: still need the url?	05:51
Gnea	rameshwor: no	05:51
ziroday	rameshwor: you have been told before, no.	05:51
rameshwor	ziroday: yes. i was told to check md5...	05:52
``y7	guys, it looks like i have to say bye to ubuntu. basically when i run ubuntu as my router, it screws up my ONT to where I have to reset the ONT (verizon fios thing). debian doesn't have this issue, nor do any other standard routers, such as linksys or actiontec. unless anybody has any additional ideas on how to fix this...??? :(	05:52
* Arkhalis\|AFK beats terr_ over the head -- REPEATEDLY -- with a very veRY VERY small trout (I suck at fishing)		05:52
ziroday	rameshwor: burn the livecd via the iso image, do not uncompress it and burn the files.	05:52
=== Arkhalis\|AFK is now known as Arkhalis
Gnea	``y7: are you using ubuntu or ubuntu-server?	05:52
losher	WIGGMPk: I understand. But if it's a firmware bug in your burner...	05:52
``y7	ubuntu	05:53
Gnea	why?	05:53
Arkhalis	terr_: wakie wakie	05:53
Gnea	ubuntu-server is made for running as a router	05:53
``y7	Gnea: to be more exact: ubuntu-8.10-desktop-amd64.iso	05:53
WIGGMPk	losher: never happend in Intrepid or XP/Vista..	05:53
``y7	Gnea, because i'm using the computer as a desktop/server	05:53
WIGGMPk	losher: which leads me to believe its an ubuntu bug	05:53
``y7	Gnea: and because i'm a n00by to linux	05:53
deagle	brb	05:54
Gnea	``y7: then you probably need to get networkmanager/wicd to have some sort of exception... i don't have vzw fios so not sure how that works	05:54
losher	WIGGMPk: Good that it's not hardware. A brasero bug?	05:54
deagle	yey! GUI :D	05:54
deagle	tty's scare me :S	05:54
deagle	you know... i'll give e17 another try :P	05:54
``y7	Gnea: any reasons to go to ubuntu-server over debian? i'm guessing ubuntu-server takes away some features that ubuntu already has, but i don't really know. i guess i'll look into it	05:54
WIGGMPk	losher: thats a long shot i think... could brasero effectively disable my dvd drive...? for the system...? maybe a udev problem? somehow	05:55
unitheory	deagle, you could try out opengeu	05:55
deagle	wussat?	05:55
Dr_Willis	google is our friend. :)	05:55
unitheory	deagle, ubuntu-based distro using e17 as the default desktop	05:55
deagle	WIGGMPk: if it's any condolence, i've had to disable brasero completely	05:55
deagle	oic	05:55
Dr_Willis	E17 - the windowmanger/desktop that reinvents its self more then... err... hmm..	05:56
Gnea	``y7: i use ubuntu-server because it updates more often than debian. it's essentially the same as debian, only more ubuntu-ized. network setup uses the standard /etc/network/interfaces	05:56
losher	WIGGMPk: can you eject the drive from software?	05:56
Dr_Willis	I cant think of anything tht does it MORE then E17	05:56
deagle	yep	05:56
deagle	losher: eject :D	05:56
Gnea	``y7: BUT, you can make the desktop ubuntu use it too	05:56
WIGGMPk	deagle: actually that just depresses me even more... it seems like Ubuntu sacrificed too much in the hopes of booting faster..	05:56
ubuntu	crossover	05:56
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall	05:56
Gnea	``y7: just start editting the interfaces file and network manager will freak out and go "oh, it's editted, so i'll auto-fail"	05:56
deagle	Dr_Willis: you must ADORE lmgtfy.com right? :D	05:56
WIGGMPk	losher: from software? the eject button works... lemme try from nautilus	05:56
Dr_Willis	deagle: never been there.. that i rember...	05:57
loof	``y7, : http://www.slavepits.com/2009/06/ditching-verizon-fios-actiontec-router.html ?? check if they did anything different	05:57
deagle	losher: type in eject in command line	05:57
Gnea	``y7: but, like i also said, networkmanager and wicd have the ability to add exceptions	05:57
Dr_Willis	deagle: but i got a picture of a bunny with a pancake on its head for you.. :P	05:57
Gnea	``y7: as in, they can run a script for you if you have a special connection	05:57
WIGGMPk	deagle: losher: says, "unable to find or open device"	05:57
deagle	:S	05:57
DirectorBonesy	What is ubuntu's official usage stance on the propietary ATi drivers?	05:58
deagle	they SUCK!	05:58
deagle	:D	05:58
deagle	j/k idk	05:58
losher	WIGGMPk: ok, open a terminal and try 'sudo eject cdrom' (you only have one cdrom, right?)	05:58
DirectorBonesy	Well, by official I mean how easily are they loaded.	05:58
DirectorBonesy	Since, Arch seems determined to make my life annoying in that regard. :/	05:59
n2diy_	DirectorBonesy: don't know, Ubuntu officials don't hang out here, to my knowledge? But if you can get it to work, who would care?	05:59
deagle	one of the reasons I picked nVIDIA over ATI was due to their linux friendliness	05:59
WIGGMPk	losher: I have 2.. but only 1 has power to it right now	05:59
unitheory	DirectorBonesy, many proprietary driver can be loaded from system > administration > hardware drivers	05:59
WIGGMPk	losher: it just returns with nothing....	05:59
Apollo2366	This is kind of annoying. Whenever I start an application, the top of the window always appears underneath the top panel on the desktop. Help?	06:00
losher	WIGGMPk: what kind of drive is it? internal? sata? ide?	06:00
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall	06:00
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: using the ubuntu netbook remix?	06:00
Apollo2366	No, regular desktop ver	06:00
WIGGMPk	losher: internal sata LG GSA-T50L (I have searched online for this and found not similar posts)	06:01
WIGGMPk	losher: its a laptop..	06:01
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding in Ubuntu?	06:01
Apollo2366	8.10 btw	06:01
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: Odd.. You can hold down the alt-key and alt-click on wndow anywhere to drag it down...	06:01
=== elad is now known as elad``
losher	WIGGMPk: type 'df -h' . Is there a line for the cdrom?	06:02
Apollo2366	Dr_Willis, Cool, didn't know that. That's a bit easier than resizing it	06:02
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: i got a tool for windows called 'kde-resizer.exe' tht adds that feature to windows also. :P	06:02
WIGGMPk	losher: no	06:02
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall	06:02
Apollo2366	Dr_Willis, Doesn't work with GNOME does it?	06:03
unitheory	Dr_Willis, i thought windows had that feature ootb?	06:03
linuxguy2009	Where are the startup apps kept track of in 9.04? I dont see a sessions under admin menu. I think thats where it used to be.	06:03
unitheory	Apollo2366, yes it does	06:03
WIGGMPk	harikapaddu: install gUFW	06:03
losher	WIGGMPk: and finally, type dmesg\|egrep sr0 Are there any messages?	06:03
Dr_Willis	unitheory: not the alt-click/drag from anywhere.. that ive ever seen.	06:03
unitheory	Dr_Willis, maybe you're right. i haven't used windows in a long time	06:03
JayX	loofhow do i create an ad-hoc for ubuntu?	06:03
WIGGMPk	losher: yes, not sure what im looking for but yes..	06:03
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: its a X standard feture.. works with most every desktop in linux ive seen.. some can turn it off.. some games canm mess up with it..	06:03
JayX	how do i create an add-hoc network **	06:04
Apollo2366	unitheory, is it in the repos? Wait, why is... oh. Wait... KDE on Windows?	06:04
deagle	wicd	06:04
deagle	JayX: makes it simple ;)	06:04
Apollo2366	I've never heard of that	06:04
stoobs76	so, i wanna run ubuntu, and vista, can someone help me?	06:04
saiki	how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner..	06:04
=== cellofel1ow is now known as cellofellow
unitheory	linuxguy2009, it's been renamed startup applications	06:04
losher	WIGGMPk: ok, wanna paste the lines to http://paste.ubuntu.com	06:04
WIGGMPk	losher: getting there now	06:04
JayX	deagle: ok, may i get assitance in creating an ad-hoc in ubntu	06:04
Apollo2366	Dr_Willis, are you running KDE on Windows?	06:04
linuxguy2009	Ah Im stupid wrong menu.Thanks	06:04
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall	06:05
unitheory	Apollo2366, is what in the repos?	06:05
safag	hi has anyone tried google earth ?	06:05
WIGGMPk	losher: http://ubuntu.pastebin.com/d2201235c	06:05
loof	stoobs76, : there are guides to dualbooting vista and ubuntu on google	06:05
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: no.. the name of the tool for windows is called 'kde-resizer.exe' nothing to do with kde.. other then a missleading name. :)	06:05
deagle	JayX: o_O? i meant look up WICD it's an app that lets you do that	06:05
Arkhalis	stoobs76: Try searching google for directions on how to dual boot...	06:05
saiki	how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed	06:05
harikapaddu	can any one help me with "Port Forwarding" In Ubuntu Firewall, i need to access MS SQL Reports from my web server via this firewall	06:05
Arkhalis	loof: lol, nice	06:05
Dr_Willis	Apollo2366: ebcause the writer added a 'kde feature ' (he thoght) to windows	06:05
Apollo2366	unitheory, I was going to ask about that resizer tool, but I was mislead by the name	06:05
JayX	deagle: ohh my bad :P	06:05
deagle	lol	06:05
=== anttia_ is now known as anttia
loof	Arkhalis, : well, it's true =S	06:05
stoobs76	im brand new to linux, my friend suggested it, and no, i dont even know what KDE is	06:06
Arkhalis	loof: I just laughed cause we basically said the same thing	06:06
safag	my google earth crashes everytime i open it after seeing earth in ubuntu 9.04	06:06
WIGGMPk	harikapaddu: install gUFW (GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall) its easy to configure and straight forward.. but dont keep asking the same question over and over.. people will answer if they see and know the answer	06:06
scales11	stoobs76: kde is a desktop manager, it controls how windows look and where they are placed	06:06
losher	WIGGMPk: I see an i/o error, but nothing really significant. What os version is this?	06:06
=== joshthecoder is now known as joshthecoder_afk
WIGGMPk	losher: Jaunty amd64, 2.6.28-13	06:06
Dr_Willis	!kde \| stoobs76	06:06
ubottu	stoobs76: KDE (http://kde.org) is the !desktop environment used natively in !Kubuntu. To install from Ubuntu: « sudo apt-get install kubuntu-desktop », or see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/InstallingKDE . See http://kubuntu.org for more information. For more information on KDE 4, see !kde4	06:06
JayX	deagle: i hipe its a GUI app, i suck @ terminal	06:07
loof	Arkhalis, : yeah lol	06:07
stoobs76	awesome, thanks	06:07
scales11	hey all, anyone do custom installs from cli ?	06:07
saiki	!xsane	06:07
ubottu	Scanning software: XSane, the GIMP (GNOME), Kooka (KDE). For instructions see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/ScanningHowTo and to see supported hardware: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HardwareSupportComponentsScanners - See also !OCR	06:07
unitheory	scales11, yea, once or twice...	06:07
usingartistxlive	I'm back, with the hosed xorg/xserver that crashed from neverputt. I was able to duplicate the crash using ubuntu-based UltimateEdition. The only way I can get to command prompt is via the "recovery mode" from the grub menu. But, when choosing shell, it asks for maintenance password. Nothing I put in there takes. How do I get past that password? It doesn't take the normal sudo password.	06:07
scales11	unitheory: no more?	06:07
loof	stoobs: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=dual%20booting%20vista%20and%20ubuntu lolol =D	06:08
dsdeiz_	when you do 'update-alternatives --config" what does '+' and '*' mean?	06:08
harikapaddu	How to install gUFW (GUI for Uncomplicated Firewall) in Ubuntu 9.04 Desktop?	06:08
Dr_Willis	!find gufw	06:08
ubottu	Found: gufw	06:08
Dr_Willis	!info gufw	06:09
losher	WIGGMPk: see if you can get status: sudo hdparm -i /dev/cdrom	06:09
ubottu	gufw (source: gui-ufw): graphical user interface for ufw. In component universe, is optional. Version 0.20.7-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 272 kB, installed size 1296 kB	06:09
unitheory	scales11, i put e17 on a minimal installation once.	06:09
WIGGMPk	harikapaddu: "sudo apt-get install gufw"	06:09
loof	usingartistxlive, : the maintenance password is the root password not your user password	06:09
dsdeiz_	anyone?	06:09
scales11	unitheory: e17 is still in beta. i dunno how stable it is..i have a netbook and was trying to go with a slim install. i tried crunchbang, it was ok...	06:09
WIGGMPk	losher: /dev/cdrom: HDIO_GET_IDENTITY failed: No message of desired type	06:09
stoobs76	loof: that was pretty funny	06:10
usingartistxlive	loof, there is no root password enabled with Ubuntu. So, no matter what I put in there, even using other passwords I may have used in the past, even putting "root" "toor" "admin" and leaving it blank do not work.	06:10
loof	stoobs76, : heheheheh =]	06:10
unitheory	scales11, right. i run xubuntu on my eee pc.	06:10
dsdeiz_	when you do 'update-alternatives --config" what does '+' and '*' mean?	06:10
WIGGMPk	!root > usingartistxlive	06:10
ubottu	usingartistxlive, please see my private message	06:10
loof	usingartistxlive, : yeah you have to enable the root account. you did do that, right? =S	06:10
losher	WIGGMPk: sorry, I'm out of ideas at this point. The system seems to have forgotten all about your cdrom...	06:11
scales11	unitheory: which eee? why xubuntu? i didnt think it really was much lighter than plain ubuntu......	06:11
saiki	!kooka	06:11
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about kooka	06:11
WIGGMPk	losher: well that sucks.... lol	06:11
hobbet1	i have intreped is there a program to see who is on my home network and what they are doing?	06:11
jared__	i love you guy	06:11
jared__	s	06:11
saiki	hobbet1, why not use your own router's?	06:11
WIGGMPk	losher: is there a command to make udev activate? or for the sata ports to be scanned again?	06:12
scales11	unitheory: i was thinking about lxde with a minimal install, but still so much to set up!	06:12
jared__	L	06:12
jared__	O	06:12
jared__	V	06:12
jared__	E	06:12
FloodBot1	jared__: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	06:12
unitheory	scales11, 701 surf. xfce is lighter and has lighter apps than gnome. e17 probably has the most "bang for the buck" in my opinion	06:12
hobbet1	i am not sure what you are telling me saiki?	06:12
the-alchemist	Yeah, paste your loveletter into the pastebin :P	06:12
saiki	hobbet1, what router do you have?	06:12
losher	WIGGMPk: there is 'sudo /etc/init.d/udev restart' but I can't guarantee it won't interrupt your long running jobs. I bet your hard drive is sata too, right?	06:12
Arkhalis	rofl	06:12
scales11	unitheory: e17, how stable is it though	06:12
hobbet1	i have an airlink, but i have a belkin also available	06:13
WIGGMPk	losher: both of them... on a raid0	06:13
unitheory	scales11, pretty stable. it never crashed randomly	06:13
WIGGMPk	losher: well im gonna roll the dice...	06:13
saiki	try these urls: http://192.168.1.1 http://192.168.2.1	06:13
jeeves_moss	how can I fix the sound on my Acer Aspire One D115 laptop? I can't figure it out	06:13
* WIGGMPk crosses his fingers		06:13
unitheory	scales11, only slightly more stable than windows ;]	06:14
saiki	how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed	06:14
usingartistxlive	ubottu, am reading your msg, and looking at the site. I can't get in to do any editing. I know what to try, but I can't even boot into command prompt without that maintenance password.	06:14
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	06:14
entropy	I have completed Appendix A of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and it worked. I am now trying Appendix D, and I did complete Appendix D, audio does show within Playback of pavucontrol, however I have no option to switch the stream to an equalizer, and when I run alsamixer, I get this http://pastebin.ca/1470742 - which didn't happen until I modified the .asoundrc verbatim,...	06:14
entropy	...uncommenting the default EQ setting (where you actually set the levels). Help?	06:14
scales11	unitheory: haha	06:14
usingartistxlive	loof, I can't get in, to enable root password	06:14
WIGGMPk	usingartistxlive: why do you need to enable root? just use sudo	06:15
WIGGMPk	losher: nothing... thanks for troubleshooting with me..	06:15
losher	WIGGMPk: sorry I couldn't solve it...	06:15
unitheory	scales11, with a minimal install the good thing is you can try out a bunch of desktop environments and remove them if you don't like them and you control what's installed	06:16
WIGGMPk	losher: its ok..	06:16
usingartistxlive	WIGGMPk, I can't boot into X, it crashed to jibberish. I can't boot into anywhere except up to where that pswd is required.	06:16
WIGGMPk	usingartistxlive: in the recovery console? have you tried using a livecd?	06:16
losher	usingartistxlive: can you boot a live-cd ?	06:17
* WIGGMPk rawr /flex		06:17
usingartistxlive	WIGGMPk, yes, I am on a live DVD ubuntu-based ArtistX, on the crashed machine.	06:17
Arkhalis	terr_ : Wake up ya lazy bum!	06:17
WIGGMPk	usingartistxlive: so mount your / and edit the xorg.conf file (paste the contents on pastebin)	06:18
scales11	unitheory: yeah i know but i still have to go into every detail	06:18
scales11	unitheory: plus i have tried them all :)	06:18
drmrhorse_	i broke my jackalope. after i updated compiz and a few other things today, my desktop fails to load. i get to the login screen, login, and the screen disappears and comes back. tried restarting x, rebooting, recovery mode with xfix. starting a console session then doing startx gets me a desktop with no sound. any ideas?	06:18
WIGGMPk	usingartistxlive: are you comfortable with the command line? show me what "sudo fdisk -l" tells you on pastebin	06:18
usingartistxlive	WIGGMPk, okay, will check, back in a bit I hope....	06:19
unitheory	scales11, all of them? theres what like 7-10 desktop environments?	06:19
loof	usingartistxlive, : you could try ALT+PRINTSCREEN+RSEIUOR	06:19
ibmman	what do you use to extrat .rar files in ubuntu	06:19
scales11	:)	06:19
WIGGMPk	ibmman: archive manager... just double click on it	06:19
scales11	unitheory: i have been messing with arch, and ubuntu for a while now	06:19
jeeves_moss	ok, sound with my 82801G audio controller, I can't get it to work. how do I fix it?	06:19
losher	ibmman: use 'unrar'	06:19
scales11	unitheory: i just cant settle on one though	06:19
WIGGMPk	ibmman: losher oops thats right..	06:19
drmrhorse_	for unrar you need ubuntu-restricted-extras, no?	06:20
Dr_Willis	!rar	06:20
ubottu	rar is a non-free archive format created by Rarsoft. For instructions on accessing .rar files through the Archive Manager view https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FileCompression. There is a free (as in speech) unrar utility as well, see !info unrar-free	06:20
scales11	unitheory: ubuntu has its options and settings a little spread out, harder to find in a whim	06:20
Dr_Willis	drmrhorse_: not that i am aware of.	06:20
drmrhorse_	hmm	06:20
ktne	hello	06:20
Dr_Willis	drmrhorse_: it might be included in that (the restricted-extras is a meta-packages)	06:20
ktne	i'm trying to install firefox 3.5beta on ubuntu	06:20
voss	drmrhorse, try rolling back to a previous kernel in grub	06:20
drmrhorse_	thats what im thinking	06:20
ktne	i downloaded the .bz2 file and unpacked it in /tmp	06:20
WIGGMPk	Dr_Willis: that is awesome....!!!	06:21
Dr_Willis	WIGGMPk: what is?	06:21
scales11	unitheory: night	06:21
unitheory	scales11, i hear good things about arch but haven't tried it	06:21
unitheory	scales11, peace	06:21
ktne	but when i try to run ./firefox, i get an error: ./run-mozilla.sh: 399: ./firefox-bin: not found , but ./firefox-bin is right there, in the same directory	06:21
ktne	any idea?	06:21
WIGGMPk	Dr_Willis: nvm... im having a converstation with my self i think... IE: (the restricted-extras is a meta-packages).... that is awesome...!	06:21
losher	ktne: is it executable?	06:22
SyphonSilent	hey guys	06:22
SyphonSilent	how do I open an rpm file?	06:22
Arkhalis	WIGGMPk: Talking to yourself can be good sometimes	06:22
WIGGMPk	Dr_Willis: as in, its an awesome meta-package... yea just nvm	06:22
Dr_Willis	WIGGMPk: meta-packages are veyr common in the Ubuntu packages. :) like 'ubuntu-desktop' and 'kubuntu-desktop'	06:22
loof	usingartistxlive, : actually, that should be ALT+PRINTSCREEN+R (takes back keyboard control if X is holding keyboard/mouse. you can then ctrl-alt-f1 to a terminal, login, enable the root account, and fix your install	06:22
scales11	unitheory: arch is nice but lots of setup, and then when i think i am all set, more setup! pacman is decent though, but autocomplete is slower than ubuntu, much slower,	06:22
dsdeiz_	!alien	06:22
ubottu	RPM is the RedHat Package Management system. Ubuntu uses !APT, not RPM. RPM packages are not supported (the package "alien" can allow installing them, but it's quite dangerous and unsupported)	06:22
drmrhorse_	voss: i will try this but the kernel didnt update	06:22
scales11	unitheory: bye for now	06:22
ktne	losher: yes it is executable, green in the console	06:22
WIGGMPk	Arkhalis: i suppose it could.. but im completing other people sentences...	06:22
ramas	hello, first time to join the support chat	06:22
WIGGMPk	Dr_Willis: oh I know... im just completing your sentence with my own..	06:22
SyphonSilent	Does anyone use the Prozilla download accelerator?	06:22
losher	ktne: sorry, dunno then...	06:23
Tohuw	!welcome \| ramas	06:23
ubottu	ramas: Welcome to #ubuntu - the Ubuntu support channel.	06:23
Arkhalis	WIGGMPk: I have solved many a problem by just talking to myself lol	06:23
ramas	how do we ask for help here	06:23
drmrhorse_	oh wait, voss jaunty only has one kernel version	06:23
ramas	whats the protocol	06:23
ramas	thx Tohuw	06:23
WIGGMPk	ramas: ask	06:23
Tohuw	!ask \| ramas	06:23
ubottu	ramas: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	06:23
ramas	ok here goes	06:23
sam____	i've suddenly became unable to use the internet on ubuntu, can anyone help me out? thanks	06:23
SyphonSilent	Does anyone use the Prozilla download accelerator?	06:23
losher	SyphonSilent: why do you think you need to open an rpm?	06:23
voss	drmrhorse, thats not true go into grub using esc and youll see	06:23
ramas	I installed jaunty on my girlfriend lap a GW6009mx	06:23
mbostwick	hello I am trying to get glx working but I am getting this http://pastebin.com/m413786c8	06:23
ramas	very nice	06:23
entropy	I have completed Appendix A of http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=789578 and it worked. I am now trying Appendix D, and I did complete Appendix D, audio does show within Playback of pavucontrol, however I have no option to switch the stream to an equalizer, and when I run alsamixer, I get this http://pastebin.ca/1470742 - which didn't happen until I modified the .asoundrc verbatim,...	06:23
SyphonSilent	because thats what the file comes as	06:23
entropy	...uncommenting the default EQ setting (where you actually set the levels). Help?	06:23
drmrhorse_	k, brb	06:23
Tohuw	!enter \| ramas	06:23
ubottu	ramas: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	06:23
loof	drmrhorse_, : what else did you install? sounds like you installed new video drivers and managed to mess it up	06:23
karatekickz	can anyone tell me where to to add a paramater to the vnc launch in jaunty?	06:23
Arkhalis	!tag \| ramas	06:24
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about tag	06:24
Arkhalis	err	06:24
drmrhorse_	no, just the updates	06:24
Arkhalis	bah	06:24
drmrhorse_	nothing new installed	06:24
voss	drmrhorse, still try it	06:24
DeCypher1	!compiz	06:24
ubottu	Compiz (compositing window manager), for a howto see http://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompositeManager and more help #compiz	06:24
losher	SyphonSilent: ok, I'll bite. What file?	06:24
jerroome	sam is your network connection up, dns and gateway indicated ?	06:24
saiki	how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed	06:24
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entropy	!alsamixer	06:25
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about alsamixer	06:25
SyphonSilent	http://prozilla.genesys.ro/downloads/prozilla/yoper/ its a download accelerator	06:25
entropy	!alsa	06:25
ubottu	If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	06:25
saiki	!wav	06:25
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about wav	06:25
Tohuw	I can't seem to get X to start on a RAGE Pro PCI with an Envision en7220 monitor. I have the horizsync and vertrefresh set correctly, and I've tried vesa, ati and fglrx. Any suggestions?	06:25
sam____	um, well my connectin works from both my other computers	06:25
DeCypher1	How do i install the compiz manager	06:25
voss	!anything	06:25
ubottu	So, you wanted to lure me into saying I don't know anything about anything? Yeah, that would be funny, of course. Now leave me alone.	06:25
sam____	and when i boot into xp it works fine	06:25
The_Warlock	how to i access my ubuntu box remotely using a mac?	06:25
ramas	I have hardy working on the same model for my dad, ok, will do, then on hardy I have no problem whatsoever with blank cd-r's bur my GFiend just told me when she tried to burn a cd with brasero it kept telling her to insert a media, and that the blank cd icon wont show on the desktop, any ideas? as I tell you the same model and dvd-burner works like a charm on hardy	06:25
saiki	DeCypher1, you mean fuse-icon? or the other one?	06:25
voss	!life	06:25
ubottu	life is something very few people know about in this channel - and anyway, it's probably offtopic, perhaps you want to try #ubuntu-offtopic	06:25
sam____	and it worked fine on ubuntu until recently. aparently my ip address is 0.0.0.0 though, which is probably a problem	06:25
karatekickz	warlock you use vnc	06:25
unitheory	whoa I didn't realize it was called iagno; i thought it was lagno	06:26
mbostwick	hmm I found this...http://www.nvnews.net/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=115300 but is there a way to check old packages ?	06:26
karatekickz	get a vnc client for the pac	06:26
karatekickz	mac	06:26
DeCypher1	saiki: i wanna install compiz manager	06:26
karatekickz	then direct it to your server ip	06:26
WIGGMPk	ramas: what type of project ar eyou trying to burn with brasero?	06:26
losher	voss: do you need help?	06:26
Tohuw	DeCypher1: it's in the repository, something like compiz-config-settingsmanager. Do an apt-cache search for compizconfig or compiz-config	06:26
unitheory	DeCypher1, the settings manager?	06:26
ramas	she said it was an audio cd	06:26
stan_man_can	The 64bit download is named amd_64, will it work win 64bit intel processors?	06:26
ramas	from mp3	06:26
DeCypher1	unitheory: ya	06:26
jerroome	sam____ do you have a static ip or dhcp ?	06:27
unitheory	DeCypher1, compizconfig-settings-manager	06:27
voss	losher not really I was just enjoying ubottu	06:27
ramas	no errrs from lame, it just kept saying to her the cd was empty	06:27
sam____	dhcp	06:27
ramas	like no medium to write to	06:27
WIGGMPk	ramas: join the club... VCD's and Data CD's are a known bug for Brasero	06:27
jerroome	try out sudo dhcpclient	06:27
dsdeiz_	you guys using opera 10b?	06:27
WIGGMPk	ramas: well that might different than.. it doesnt give you the "cannot write with the current set of plugins"??	06:27
Tohuw	voss: please use !command > voss when testing bot commands to avoid spam in the channel, or private query the bot.	06:27
coz_	ramas, have you tried gnomebaker?	06:27
unitheory	dsdeiz_, i am!	06:27
drmrhorse_	voss: there is only one kernel version for jaunty. it hasnt updated so i dont have any more choices	06:28
dsdeiz_	unitheory: how is it? :-?	06:28
loof	drmrhorse_, : http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=disable+compiz+from+commandline	06:28
DeCypher1	unitheory: Thank you	06:28
unitheory	dsdeiz_, great!	06:28
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ramas	WIGGMPk: mmh but never had an issue like this, and what worries me is that that cd creator doesnt see it as well	06:28
dsdeiz_	i'm having trouble using facebook with opera :(	06:28
jerroome	Tohuw what does your syslog and xorglog files indicate when launching X	06:28
sam____	sudo: dhcpclient: command not found	06:28
voss	drmrhorse, are you connected wired or wirelessly?	06:28
unitheory	dsdeiz_, on 10b ?	06:28
ramas	WIGGMPk: basically no blank cd icon will appear on the desktop as usual	06:28
Tohuw	jerroome: one moment, let me check	06:28
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dsdeiz_	yeah	06:28
WIGGMPk	ramas: coz_ suggested using Gnomebacker.. hav eyou tried that?	06:28
saiki	how do we upgrade xsane? the version that comes in jaunty will FRY my scanner.. so an upgrade is really needed any help on how to do this would be appriciated	06:28
unitheory	dsdeiz_, what problems?	06:29
drmrhorse_	loof: so youre saying that i should disable compiz from command line?	06:29
dsdeiz_	i can't post comments on the walls	06:29
WIGGMPk	ramas: wait, your saying the system doesnt mount the blank cd?	06:29
ramas	nope not yet, It will have to wait until sat when I see her	06:29
ramas	yep exaclty	06:29
loof	drmrhorse_, : what do you think?? =S	06:29
unitheory	dsdeiz_, i can...	06:29
dsdeiz_	oh no!	06:29
drmrhorse_	i think that let me google that for you dot com is a site that smart asses use	06:29
dsdeiz_	reall??	06:29
unitheory	yep	06:29
stan_man_can	Ubuntu 9.04's 64bit install is named ub ubuntu-9.04-desktop-amd64.iso, will that also work with Intel processors???	06:29
WIGGMPk	ramas: does it mount it at first.. then fail to burn.. then not mount again???	06:29
ramas	WIGGMPk is not just brasero, she says no blank cd icon will appear inm the desktop,	06:29
loof	drmrhorse_, : possibly!	06:29
ramas	it wont mount	06:30
dsdeiz_	did you do anything or did it just work all 'out of the box'?	06:30
loof	but yeah, try disabling compiz	06:30
loof	and you'd likely have to reboot	06:30
unitheory	dsdeiz_, works ootb	06:30
coz_	ramael, is this a fresh install ... an upgrade... and was this happening from the get go?	06:30
drmrhorse_	k	06:30
WIGGMPk	ramas: well... worst case scenario its the hardware.. meaning her cd/dvd drive might have went.. you'll need the machine to trouble shoot it though	06:30
ramas	WIGGMPk: is not from the plugins or anything she cant burn anything cuz seems the system doiesnt get aware of the blank cds	06:30
coz_	ramael, sorry	06:30
WIGGMPk	ramas: is there another OS on the machine to test?	06:30
coz_	ramas, was this a clean install .. an upgrade...and was th is happening from the get go?	06:31
WIGGMPk	ramas: do other cd/dvd's work? like software/games/etc?	06:31
loof	you can try turning it back on, but make sure your hardware supports compiz and you're running in a res that compiz can actually display properly	06:31
Tohuw	jerroome: O	06:31
ramas	WIGGMPk: machin is brand new, we burn stuff with vista before wiping	06:31
Tohuw	jerroome: Sorry, mistype, one moment	06:31
unitheory	dsdeiz_, i do have flash installed	06:31
Owner	if i want to dual boot ubuntu latest version and windows xp which one do i install first because i have a problem	06:31
unitheory	Owner, windows	06:31
ramas	WIGGMPk: all other cd media are read fine, she has spent several days rippping her library of music for rhythmbox and stuff	06:31
voss	ramas, do you have a spare cd burner you can use to test it with?	06:31
coz_	Owner, then make sure window is defragged properly before installing ubuntu unless its on a separate drive	06:32
karatekickz	anyone help me with headless vnc issue?	06:32
loof	0wner: installing windows first is probably easier. there are guides to installing xp & linux & dualbooting on youtube & google	06:32
mutew	Owner, Windows....	06:32
WIGGMPk	ramas: im not sure on this one bud.. someone more knowledgeable will need to tackle this.. perhaps the media??? have you tried different brands??	06:32
coz_	karatekickz, if no one can here try #linux channel it is more across the board and less ubuntu specific	06:32
mutew	Owner, Ubuntu will atleast play along nicely and add Windows as a multi-boot option	06:32
Tohuw	jerroome: I'm seeing two things of interest: "gdm_config_value_get_bool: assertion 'value->type == GDM_CONFIG_VALUE_BOOL' failed" and "failed to start x sefveral times in a short time period; disabling dispaly :0"	06:33
karatekickz	tried linux help... they werent helpful	06:33
karatekickz	I also googled a ton	06:33
mutew	Owner, The same cannot be said of Windows, it will overwrite the MBR on install and you will have to use another method to access the Ubuntu install.	06:33
karatekickz	this seem distro specific	06:33
karatekickz	I need to find where vnc gets loaded	06:33
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mutew	karatekickz, What's the exact issue?	06:33
karatekickz	im running vnc headless...	06:34
sparr	I use kate for programming under KDE. What is a similarly featureful editor for GNOME?	06:34
karatekickz	it defualts to 640 480 I need to send it a parameter on boot	06:34
mutew	karatekickz, and?	06:34
ramas1	WIGGMPk:/voss nope not really dont have any usb based ones, I have the pc and as I tell u my fathers exactly same model worked like a charm with hardy, I was hoping this was a known bug with hardy but I couldnt find any threads in the forums dealing with this	06:34
karatekickz	I need to find the file that lauches it	06:34
stan_man_can	actually the easiest thing for me personally when setting up a dual boot is to install on seperate hard drives and change in bios	06:34
mbostwick	can someone tell me where libGLcore.so.180.44 libGL.so.180.44 are packaged	06:34
ramas1	sorry a known bug with jaunty	06:34
stan_man_can	makes formatting or removing one of the OS'es alot eaiser without mucking with the boot managers	06:34
voss	ramas, what kind of disc is it?	06:35
dsdeiz_	unitheory: oops, it works now.. :D sorry about that.. Opera's kewl.. B-)	06:35
Rabbitbunny	I've forgotten a word. What are those things over there by the clock? I'd like to make one and Google doesn't work without nouns	06:35
ramas1	she says it is a normal-regular cd-r, Im mad at me because that was the one thing of hw I didnt try before handing it over to her	06:35
losher	karatekickz: I'm confused. How do you know you're running vnc headless if you didn't start it yourself by hand?	06:35
newbyx86	Schweet. Got my Ubuntu server all up to date.	06:36
ramas1	she says the brand is sony, I told her to buy a verbatim and imation tomorrow and try those maybe its some kind of weird model of cd-r I have heard of ones not working	06:36
mutew	karatekickz, How about looking into ~/.vnc/	06:36
ramas1	Ive never had issues with those brands	06:36
dsdeiz_	unitheory: how to install the flash player for it? :-?	06:36
mutew	Owner, which dll?	06:37
unitheory	dsdeiz_, sudo aptitude install flashplugin-nonfree	06:37
sam____	so does that mean my computer doesn't have dhcp set up or something?	06:37
ramas1	so no other ideas?	06:37
hemanth	how can I mount an ip ,which I'm anle to ping on port 21	06:37
dsdeiz_	oh same with firefox.. ok thanks got it already ;)	06:37
Owner	mutew i am not sure the name but i can look it up	06:37
jerroome`	sam____ what did the command return, I had a connection interruption and didn't get your reply	06:38
karatekickz	losher its started in my install im running mythbuntu but I think it starts with ubuntu as well	06:38
loof	stan_man_can, : that's a crappy way to dualboot	06:38
ramas	anyone still following me?	06:38
mutew	Owner, do that and let me know.	06:38
mutew	Owner, also when did you get the error?	06:38
arindam	hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh	06:38
sam____	returned: sudo: dhcpclient: command not found	06:38
jerroome`	ramas repeat	06:38
Owner	right after i installed ubuntu	06:38
bazhang	sam____, dhclient eth0 for example	06:38
sam____	oh okay	06:39
jerroome`	sam____ did you try dhclient, I told you the wrong command before	06:39
zortec	Is there anyone who can help configure my network in nm?	06:39
ramas	jerome: what was the last part u got?	06:39
bazhang	sam____, sudo dhclient eth0 (for ethernet)	06:39
losher	karatekickz: ok, so what problem are you trying to solve?	06:39
sam____	doing that now	06:39
mutew	Owner, Does the WinXP option show up in the Grub boot menu?	06:39
karatekickz	I need to find where vnc is launched	06:39
VirusTBX	hey who was it that told me to install WICD ? ? that thy messe sp ym system!	06:39
karatekickz	then simply add a paramter	06:39
Owner	mutew yes	06:39
karatekickz	its so simple	06:39
DeCypher1	UHM sombody.. help please? http://i40.tinypic.com/2isvywl.png	06:39
karatekickz	yet nowone can tell me	06:39
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karatekickz	I have 3hours in this	06:39
sam____	There is already a pid file /var/run/dhclient.pid with pid 134519072	06:40
mutew	But it doesn't boot when you select WinXP, right?	06:40
Owner	ya	06:40
jerroome`	ramas nothing	06:40
Owner	it only says a file is missing	06:40
SyphonSilent	can someone help me find a download accelerator?	06:40
bazhang	sam____, don't worry about that	06:40
sam____	yeah	06:40
mutew	karatekickz, did you find a .vnc folder in the remote system?	06:40
sam____	so where do i tell you from?	06:40
ramas	jerome: so u didnt catch anything from what I told voss ... ok again	06:40
JayX	loof was it you that told me to install WIDC to creat an Ad-hoc?	06:40
bazhang	!info aria2 \| SyphonSilent	06:40
ubottu	SyphonSilent: aria2 (source: aria2): High speed download utility. In component universe, is optional. Version 1.1.2-1 (jaunty), package size 1250 kB, installed size 3532 kB	06:40
zortec	NM says that my device is not managed. It worked when I first installed ubuntu, now the network is not being monitored. Any ideas?	06:40
sam____	after listing some other stuff: No DHCPOFFERS recieved.	06:40
losher	karatekickz: did you look in ~/.vnc like mutew said?	06:40
JayX	Where can I view the log, of this chatroom online???	06:40
Owner	mutew, all it says is a file that is missing	06:41
sam____	No working leases in peristent databas - sleeping.	06:41
mutew	Owner, I need to know the file name.	06:41
Owner	mutew, let me go look up which file it is	06:41
zortec	JayX: I don't believe there is a log of this IRC room.	06:41
mutew	Owner, Was it nt32.dll?	06:41
JayX	< --- Needs to know : Where can I view the log, of this chatroom online???	06:41
drmrhorse_	my x session problem was fixed by changing from kdm to gdm. kdm used to work for me with gnome, but no more i guess	06:41
losher	JayX: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com	06:41
ramas	my gfiends lap has jaunty, it doesn mount the blank cd's and as such it cant burn them, brasero for ex keeps askling her to enter a medium to write to, the blank cd icon wont even show on the desktop	06:41
voss	So its cd-r not cd-rw	06:41
Ophelix	Hiya I got a Question	06:41
bazhang	!logs > JayX	06:41
ubottu	JayX, please see my private message	06:41
Owner	metew, i have no idea brb let me check	06:41
ramas	voss: nope she says theyŕe cd-r	06:41
Ophelix	Is there a way to get a USB Game Controller working in ubuntu?	06:42
voss	They might have already been used	06:42
ramas	voss: I told her to buy a couple more tomorrow, verbatim and/or imation Ive had good exp with those brands	06:42
zortec	I'm unsure how to configure my network. I want to set up a DSL connection so I put in the username and password, but I don't know what to put for service.	06:42
Arkhalis	Ophelix: it should work automatically... if you need calibration there is an app called Joystick Calibrator in the repos	06:42
JayX	losher, bazhang #ubuntu.txt is this chat room right?	06:42
zortec	My network is working fine, but it's not being managed by network connections	06:43
voss	by the way what is the brand of cd burner in there?	06:43
ramas	I have the hope its just some issue with the cd brand and another iwll work	06:43
jerroome`	ramas I have never heard that some brands weren't working, can't give you any hint for it, as voss said, are you sure the cd are blank ?	06:43
mutew	karatekickz, try searching for the vncserver -geometry...	06:43
bazhang	JayX, yep	06:43
zortec	It says that no valid active connections are found.	06:43
karatekickz	I see nothing in there other than passwd	06:43
Ophelix	Well it doesnt, its a Tesun USB 706, but Im running it on the EEE-PC Hardy Lean Kernel, would that make a different	06:43
mutew	karatekickz, command call, it should be in /etc (probably in rc.local) if you are running it headless as you say.	06:43
ramas	she says the cd's come from a bunch her father bought u know, from office max	06:43
karatekickz	also why dont I see .vnc when I ls the /~	06:43
bazhang	SyphonSilent, please ask in channel (not via PM)	06:44
ramas	tjhey dont have labels and come in a tower	06:44
karatekickz	I looked and rc.local	06:44
karatekickz	no reference	06:44
voss	ramas what is the brand of the drive	06:44
jerroome`	sam____ are you allowed to connect to that network ? isn't it filtered trough MAC adresses ?	06:44
ramas	I can fetch u the model and brand of the burner	06:44
ramas	hold	06:44
mutew	karatekickz, do a grep for "vncserver" in /etc	06:44
Arkhalis	Ophelix: I am running on an eeepc 1008ha and every controller i have plugged in works automatically /dev/input/js if the app needs a controller location	06:44
sam____	um, it could be, i guess, but it's my own home network and everything else works fine without having to do any setup of that kind	06:44
Owner	mutew, it does not say the dll name all its says, "some dlls are needed for loading the kernel"	06:45
Arkhalis	try the joystick calibrator to see if it's really there... if not perhaps try finding drivers for it	06:45
mutew	karatekickz, or if your fs has updatedb then try and do a "locate xstartup"	06:45
Ophelix	Alright Ill give it a try one minuto	06:45
losher	karatekickz: you need 'ls -a' to see files starting with a dot	06:45
Arkhalis	Ophelix: try the joystick calibrator to see if it's really there... if not perhaps try finding drivers for it	06:45
mutew	Owner, in that case you could try booting from the WinXP cd and running the repair option.	06:45
jerroome`	do you use that network for the moment with another machine, if yes have a look at your dhcp-server config	06:45
zortec	Where can I find a troubleshooting guide for the network manager on 9.04?	06:46
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Apollo2366	Hey, I'm having trouble with Pidgin using the Yahoo protocol.	06:46
Owner	mutew, alright thank you very much	06:46
loof	JayX, : i said to watch that video on youtube and try that	06:46
JimBiggs	hi there people, i've got a problem, X won't start (or will start but display a black empty screen) since a few minutes ago (after the restart following today's update)	06:46
SyphonSilent	Does anyone know how to use Aria2?	06:46
JayX	loff i did, but i dont have the bash commands to create an ad-hov	06:46
JayX	hoc*	06:46
Arkhalis	Ophelix: please tag your message when you come back so i know you are talking to me... don't always catch it without	06:47
JimBiggs	anyone having video issues since the last update?	06:47
Ophelix	Arkhalis: Alright ill be sure to do that	06:47
rameshworr	Apollo2366: same here. it's not working..	06:47
Arkhalis	Ophelix: perfect, thanks	06:47
karatekickz	thx for helping btw mutew	06:47
SyphonSilent	Does anyone know how to use aria2?	06:48
JayX	loof i did, but i dont have the bash commands to create an ad-hov	06:48
jerroome`	JimBiggs can you access a terminal ?	06:48
mutew	karatekickz, any luck yet?	06:48
Apollo2366	rameshworr, that's three for three then, I think it's a problem with Pidgin	06:48
karatekickz	what would the exact comand be for the grep request?	06:48
Apollo2366	rameshworr, my friend has the same problem	06:48
karatekickz	any parameters?	06:48
JimBiggs	jerroome`, yes, i'm in it just right now, but all i can see in dmesg is "[drm: i915_get_vblank_counter] ERROR trying to get vblank count for disabled pipe 0"	06:48
mutew	grep "vncserver" /etc -r	06:48
losher	JayX: what's an ad-hoc?	06:48
jerroome`	if yes, backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file	06:49
ramas	voss: sorry the lap is at her home I canbt find the burner model and I dont recall what it was, all I can tell u is a Gateway mx 6009m with celeron 2.1Ghz processor	06:49
mutew	karatekickz, grep "vncserver" /etc -r	06:49
jerroome`	and then execute sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg	06:49
JimBiggs	jerroome`, backup done, and then?	06:49
JayX	losher, good question... it something to do with shareing a network connections	06:49
JayX	!info ad-hoc	06:49
ubottu	Package ad-hoc does not exist in jaunty	06:49
JimBiggs	jerroome`, ok, i'll try that straight away and keep you updated ;)	06:49
Ophelix	Arkhalis: Alright sweetness all i needed to do was install the configurator thanks!	06:49
usingartistxlive	loof ,WIGGMPk, how do I get the terminal from a live-cd to administer changes to the installed OS, or, if easier, how do I get the root password enabled on the installed OS from the live-cd terminal? I got lost in the shell there for awhile.	06:49
ramas	my father has the exact same model and the burner worked without issues to burn 2 dvd¡'s and a cd-r last week	06:49
jerroome`	don't need to reboot	06:49
zortec	Where can I get help for network manager?	06:49
voss	ramas, the best strategy try the other brand cds tommorow, if they dont work , replace the drive	06:49
JayX	losher, wifi connection*	06:49
jerroome`	execute telinit S	06:49
Arkhalis	Ophelix: Glad to help, and remember if the app you run needs the controller location it's /dev/input/js	06:49
jerroome`	and then launch X manually again	06:49
JimBiggs	jerroome`, telinit S ?	06:49
unitheory	JayX, losher, ad-hoc is a network with a mobile device such as a laptop acting as the access point	06:50
JimBiggs	with startx?	06:50
jerroome`	with gdm if you use gnome	06:50
JimBiggs	oh ok gdm	06:50
karatekickz	lots of permission denied when run from /~	06:50
mutew	losher, an ad-hoc connection is a type of network connection built without the aid of any external networking infrastructure..	06:50
karatekickz	no hits	06:50
JimBiggs	ok i'll try that straight away ;)	06:50
jerroome`	ok	06:50
Ophelix	Arkhalis: Got it Alright thanks again	06:50
losher	makes sense, thanks all...	06:50
mutew	losher, so for eg. the connection between a couple of laptops, mobiles or PDA's without the use of a router is an ad-goc connection.	06:50
ramas	well, we'll see wuth the other cd's Ill have more info tomorrow and then Ill ask again if necessary, if its worth it, in windows vista she burned a dvd prior to wiping it, the lap is brand new	06:50
JayX	unitheory, so then how doe tethering work? is the lapot is the access point?	06:50
JimBiggs	jerroome`, telinit S shows me a recovery menu, what should i choose?	06:51
unitheory	JayX, not sure about that one ;]	06:51
JayX	unitheory, ok :P	06:51
sam____	also, when i go into attached devices it only shows my windows desktop and my macbook, not the ubuntu desktop	06:51
jerroome`	normal resume or similar	06:51
sam____	on my router that is	06:51
ramas	thx for the help, I hope I dont have to downgrade it to hardy, as it works pretty well and she has all her apps and look and feel already set in jaunty	06:51
voss	ramas, you can also try creating an ubuntu live cd on another computer and if it wont boot the disc then you know.	06:52
karatekickz	I gotta run mute thanks for the help so far...I guess I will google more	06:52
losher	karatekickz: which parameter do you want to add?	06:52
JimBiggs	jerroome`, i think i screwed something up with telinit S, i'll just reboot	06:52
karatekickz	whatever teh screen res para is I have to google again	06:52
jerroome`	ok, reboot	06:53
jerroome`	but don't worry, nothing can be broken	06:53
mutew	karatekickz, try searching for vncserver -geometry 640x480	06:53
mutew	karatekickz, that should be the command line invocation	06:53
ramas	voss: k, but she says data and music cd's are mounted fine, the only proib is with blank cds	06:53
karatekickz	-geometry	06:53
losher	karatekickz: as I understand it, mythbubtu runs the gnome desktop, and gnome has a VINO server built in, which serves vnc'	06:53
JimBiggs	jerroome`, could this issue be because i added the "latest video drivers source" in apt lately? (like a week ago	06:54
karatekickz	nah it defaults cause I am running headless	06:54
mutew	losher, but he's talking of a headless vnc system.	06:54
ramas	problem is she doesnt live with me yet so I wont be sure until friday when I see her and the laptop	06:54
karatekickz	I cant even find a reference for freaking vnc	06:54
karatekickz	its simple	06:54
karatekickz	I just gotta add that paramte	06:54
voss	ramas, a ubuntu live cd is an iso . If the system will boot the live cd, then its not a drive reading problem	06:54
karatekickz	I acannot belive this is that difficult	06:54
karatekickz	very frustrating	06:54
losher	karatekickz: so when you run 'ps ax' is there a vncserver running?	06:55
ramas	anyway, thx Ill be back probably if the other cd's dont work, she has xp in another partition Ill try to see if she can burn from there...	06:55
JimBiggs	jerroome`, no luck still the black empty screen (but there's sound ;)	06:55
jerroome`	JimBiggs, could be, but I didn't heard anything about it	06:55
unitheory	voss, some faulty drive can still boot livecds	06:55
karatekickz	im vnced in right now	06:55
karatekickz	using it	06:55
Warrigal_	How do I configure the compose key such that composing _a or _o results in the character I want?	06:55
karatekickz	so yes a vnc server is running	06:55
jerroome`	pastebin return of lspci	06:55
Arkhalis	karatekickz: I hate problems like that... then when you figure it out you go well that was easy! (only with more vulgar language)	06:55
jerroome`	lsmod	06:55
karatekickz	lol thats how this one is	06:55
jerroome`	and also your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file	06:55
losher	karatekickz: but you didn't start the vncserver explicitly?	06:55
ramas	yep I just installed jaunty from cd a week ago	06:55
voss	uni, but a drive that cannot read a live is a definite hardware failure	06:55
karatekickz	myth gave me the option to install it	06:56
JayX	loof how do i make a bash comand to create a Ad-hoc network?	06:56
karatekickz	so I assume its set to load on boot	06:56
ramas	as I tell u guys the oinly issue on thw whole hw in the laptop is with these blank cd's	06:56
JimBiggs	jerroome`, how could i pastebin anything? it's on my laptop and i only have access to the term :(	06:56
JimBiggs	well, the console	06:56
ramas	the system treats them as if no medium was in the drive	06:56
loof	jayx: http://www.prash-babu.com/2008/08/how-to-createjoin-adhoc-network-in.html	06:56
bazhang	JimBiggs, pastebinit	06:56
voss	ramas, the whole might be those crappy office depot cds in which case youre golden :)	06:56
jerroome`	give me a sec, I don't have an issue directly	06:56
losher	karatekickz: back to what mutew said then. Grep for vnc in /etc/init.d/*	06:56
Arkhalis	ramas: sorry if my question is redundant and already been answered... but try updating the firmware on your cd drive	06:56
bazhang	JimBiggs, sudo apt-get install pastebinit	06:56
bullgard4	[GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?	06:56
jerroome`	use w3m or lynx as browser	06:57
JimBiggs	bazhang, that's clever ;)	06:57
bazhang	cat /etc/apt/sources.list \| pastebinit (for example)	06:57
JimBiggs	jerroome`, ok, will do ;)	06:57
JimBiggs	bazhang, very clever ;)	06:57
losher	karatekickz: mutew: sorry I'm behind you guys	06:57
JimBiggs	i'll do that	06:57
ramas	ok that sounds good will see the manufacturer and see if theres a fw upgrade if the other cds dont work tomorrow	06:57
karatekickz	its not in xconf	06:57
JimBiggs	jerroome`, so lsmod, lspci and xorg.conf right?	06:57
Arkhalis	ramas: only problem with firmware is	06:57
ramas	she says theyŕe sony, but I doubt it as she says they dont have any labels or anything	06:58
jerroome`	yes	06:58
losher	karatekickz: if it's forked from mythbackend, you'll never find it...	06:58
ramas	if u screw u blow the hw?	06:58
Arkhalis	ramas: a lot of the time there are only windows installers for updating firmware so you may run into problems there	06:58
karatekickz	k im in that directory	06:58
karatekickz	so just grep "vncserver"?	06:58
karatekickz	cause it appears hung	06:59
losher	karatekickz: 'grep vnc /etc/init.d/*'	06:59
unitheory	grep grep grep	06:59
karatekickz	from /~ ?	06:59
mutew	karatekickz, cd /etc	06:59
mutew	karatekickz, grep "vncserver" . -r	06:59
usingartistxlive	How do I enable root in the installed ubuntu by using a live-cd?	07:00
JimBiggs	jerroome`, lsmod: http://pastebin.com/f7f303fd, lspci http://pastebin.com/f20a8d21b, xorg.conf: http://pastebin.com/f2e99e69	07:00
ramas	she has xp install in another partition I left it there... just in case... like these cases	07:00
magnetron	!root \| usingartistxlive	07:00
ubottu	usingartistxlive: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	07:00
losher	karatekickz: I'd prefer he do: sudo grep vnc /etc/init.d/*	07:00
JimBiggs	jerroome`, and dmesg: http://pastebin.com/f7489a0df	07:01
Arkhalis	ramas: good choice lol and good luck, hope it helps	07:01
jeeves	how can I connect to a windows 2003 server through a VPN?	07:01
karatekickz	dude it does nothing no output	07:01
karatekickz	back to prompt	07:01
karatekickz	GRRRRRRRRRRRRRR	07:01
Arkhalis	mellow~	07:01
Tohuw	Can't get X to start using vesa, ai or fglrx. In syslog, I'm seeing two things of interest: "gdm_config_value_get_bool: assertion 'value->type == GDM_CONFIG_VALUE_BOOL' failed" and "failed to start x sefveral times in a short time period; disabling dispaly :0"	07:01
losher	usingartistxlive: it's tricky. if I recall, you need to a) fsck then mount the root directory	07:01
magnetron	!enter \| karatekickz	07:01
ubottu	karatekickz: Please try to keep your questions/responses on one line - don't use the "Enter" key as punctuation!	07:01
Arkhalis	anger solves no computer problem... only cause them lol	07:01
ramas	thx you'll see me here tomorrow with more q's and info if they dont work, this is a weird one, dont think its a hw prob as the laptop is just new, anyway, gotta run thx	07:02
Arkhalis	ramas: night	07:02
losher	usingartistxlive: did you wanna do this or not?	07:03
* losher thinks to himself, it's like pulling teeth tonight...		07:03
loof	Tohuw, : what video card are you using? did you make any driver changes? i'm assuming x started before you did something to break it?	07:03
* Arkhalis agrees with losher		07:03
kandinski	does ubuntu have a good self-hosted web analytics package?	07:04
jerroome`	ok, give me a minute	07:04
JimBiggs	jerroome`, take you time, i'm stuck here anyway :p	07:04
gggg	is it possible to share files with samba from ubuntu to windows xp?if possible how?	07:04
usingartistxlive	losher, yes, I need to enable root on the installed os with the hosed xserver/xorg, while using a live-cd, so I can reboot and get past the "recovery mode's" maintenence password	07:04
karatekickz	groan thanks for the help im giving up for the night	07:04
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, so the easiest way I can think to do that is to generate a root password on the live system & copy it to the hosed server, ok?	07:05
usingartistxlive	I have a fresh terminal open and ready	07:05
loof	kandinski, : good compared to what?	07:05
djolefol	Is iCon 401 3G USB modem working with Jaunty? Do I still have to disable ZeroCD first?	07:05
gggg	how to use samba to share files to windows xp?	07:06
losher	usingartistxlive: tell me the name of the root partition of the server	07:06
JimBiggs	jerroome`, is it possible easily to revert to the "standard" video drivers instead of the xorg-edgers to make sure they're not the issue?	07:06
kandinski	loof: google analytics quality	07:06
usingartistxlive	using nautilus, it shows up as "disk"	07:06
kandinski	loof: not only good statistics-wise, but also full of eye candy	07:06
Tohuw	loof: Rage ATI XL, but I also tried the builtin (also ATI) card. It worked before I upgraded to jaunty.	07:06
jerroome`	for the moment you are using standard video mode	07:07
jerroome`	how is your X launched	07:07
zetheroo	I am trying to use the Istanbul Screen Recorder but it seems to freeze after I initiate the recording session	07:07
jerroome`	ps -ef \| grep X	07:07
dsdeiz_	lspci to know what video card you have right? either nvidia/intel/ati?	07:07
losher	usingartistxlive: can you paste the output of 'df -h' to http://paste.ubuntu.com ?	07:07
loof	gggg: http://www.lmgtfy.com/?q=File+Sharing+With+Ubuntu+9.04+Using+Samba	07:07
dsdeiz_	lol	07:08
JimBiggs	jerroome`, http://pastebin.com/f243cf943	07:08
loof	kandinsky: lol, google analytics quality. GOOD LUCK	07:08
djolefol	There are different opinions about iCon 401 at the forum: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=1160081&highlight=iCon+401	07:08
JimBiggs	jerroome`, how do you know i'm using standard mode? because there's not the "uxa" stuff in xorg?	07:08
bazhang	loof, please don't lmgtfy	07:09
bazhang	!samba > gggg	07:09
ubottu	gggg, please see my private message	07:09
dsdeiz_	ahh	07:09
loof	bazhang, : when my link is better than ubottu, it's relevant :P	07:10
bazhang	loof, desist in future thanks.	07:10
usingartistxlive	losher: http://paste.ubuntu.com/201863/	07:10
unitheory	!samba > unitheory	07:10
ubottu	unitheory, please see my private message	07:10
Warrigal_	Is there an X11 channel?	07:10
jerroome`	yes	07:10
ganymede_	if use ip addr add (some-ip-here) dev eth8, then that means i can have separate daemons listening on the same ports on different IPs?	07:10
linuxguy2009	Hey guys I just noticed that a few apps a installed in Wine have been removed from the wine menu, but I just noticed that they have for some reason been moved to the Other menu.How do I get rid of them? I have tried gconf-editor.	07:11
Tohuw	Warrigal_: #xorg	07:11
losher	usingartistxlive: good. Now cd /media/disk/etc	07:11
Warrigal_	Tohuw: gracias.	07:11
Tohuw	linuxguy2009: alacarte	07:11
linuxguy2009	Sorry I meant the menu editor.	07:11
linuxguy2009	alacarte	07:11
Amaranth	don't do that	07:11
Tophu	is there a way to burn an backup of my 9.04 install once I get it set up the way I like it (compiz, stylus, awn ...) to a dvd or something so that I can reainstall and have everything already set up?	07:12
JimBiggs	jerroome`, so what do you reckon, am i out of solutions (appart from reinstalling?)	07:12
gggg	ubottu, thanks	07:12
ubottu	You're welcome! But keep in mind I'm just a bot ;-)	07:12
Amaranth	Do not use the "Delete" feature in alacarte	07:12
JimBiggs	that would be a pain :(	07:12
gggg	loof, thanks	07:12
loof	kandinsky: http://www.google.com/urchin/index.html	07:12
Amaranth	It shouldn't even be there	07:12
Tohuw	linuxguy2009: ah. so they don't show up in alacarte?	07:12
loof	gggg: np	07:12
dsdeiz_	thanks ubottu!	07:12
linuxguy2009	Yes they show but they wont delete.	07:12
usingartistxlive	losher, okay, I'm there	07:12
dsdeiz_	thanks ubottu !	07:12
jerroome`	I wouldn't reinstall, but I don't have an immediate issue	07:12
dsdeiz_	oh	07:13
JimBiggs	jerroome`, :(	07:13
wicking	hello. i’ve added a file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi to my HAL config. how can i tell HAL to immediately use these new settings without a restart of the computer?	07:13
jerroome`	try to repair broken packages	07:13
Tohuw	loof: any ideas on why when I use the fglrx driver I get "no screens found" even though I'm using a standard and simple xorg.conf?	07:13
JimBiggs	jerroome`, so you confirm there's nothing i could do to "revert to standard video drivers" as i should already be using them, right?	07:13
JimBiggs	jerroome`, how to repair broken packages?	07:13
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, now lets generate a root password. Type: sudo passwd root . It will prompt you to enter & repeat a root password	07:13
jerroome`	you can either reboot and launch in rescue mode, or launch telinit S and choose repair broken packages	07:13
JimBiggs	jerroome`, ok	07:14
ganymede_	Tophu: you can tar and gzip your entire home directory, or maybe just the dot-folders	07:14
loof	hmmm, what drivers are you using?	07:14
JimBiggs	jerroome`, is that normal that i can't use the arrows to change the menu in telinit S?	07:14
loof	Tohuw, : what ati drivers, i mean	07:14
jerroome`	if you boot in recue mode, you first have to drop to a root shell in order to set your network connection and after that laucnh repair broken packages	07:14
linuxguy2009	I was messing with Lego Digital Designer and a few NVIDIA demos.hehe Darn shortcuts are in Other and just wont delete.	07:14
jerroome`	I can, I don't know why you can't	07:15
usingartistxlive	losher , passwd: password updated successfully	07:15
JimBiggs	jerroome`, i'm having a very bad feeling :(	07:15
Tophu	@gany: so no way to burn an install disk :-(	07:15
unitheory	linuxguy2009, can't you use gnome's menu editor?	07:15
Tohuw	loof: What do you mean? I'm using fglrx as the driver. fglrx is installed properly; it was working before upgrade	07:15
losher	usingartistxlive: ok. now look at the file /etc/shadow: the first line should say root: followed by a bunch of weird characters	07:16
JimBiggs	jerroome`, when i type any key it writes over the menus, and the arrows arent reponsive	07:16
linuxguy2009	Yes I have used alacarte many times its great.It just wont do it for some odd reason.	07:16
jerroome`	after you have launched the xorg reconfigure command, you aren't using any third party drivers for graphics anymore	07:16
Amaranth	linuxguy2009: Don't use the "Delete" option in alacarte	07:16
unitheory	linuxguy2009, uncheck the boxes next to the entries you don't want to show ?	07:16
Amaranth	linuxguy2009: It causes problems later	07:16
JimBiggs	jerroome`, oh ok ;)	07:17
losher	usingartistxlive: you may need to say 'sudo cat /etc/shadow' to read it...	07:17
jerroome`	than just reboot	07:17
zetheroo	please help, Istanbul Screen Recorder is not working for me ... I have a terminal output if anyone is interested ...	07:17
jerroome`	and go to rescue mode	07:17
Tohuw	loof, do you need to see my xorg.conf, and if so is there a quick way to put it on pastebin when all I have is root prompt with networking?	07:17
bullgard4	[GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?	07:17
JimBiggs	jerroome`, ok, i'll try that :/	07:17
sparr	are there any good Free alternatives to GPSDrive or TangoGPS?	07:17
xooo	can anyone think of a temporary fix for this pidgin-yahoo network problem?	07:17
linuxguy2009	unitheory: thats a good temp fix. So I did it. Im thinking its reading them from a folder somewhere.	07:18
Amaranth	linuxguy2009: ~/.local/share/applications/wine/	07:18
Tophu	@xooo: I thought they came out with an update that fixed that	07:18
usingartistxlive	losher, I just opened it from nautilus, and it shows root:x: then some numbers and ":"s	07:18
xooo	Tophu: tell me how to do it because mine isn't fixed	07:18
unitheory	xooo, you can change the server pidgin connects to if you don't want to update pidgin	07:19
xooo	id like to update pidgin	07:19
loof	tohuw: i didn't think that the ati rage xl was supported by fglrx??? are you SURE it is??	07:19
Stanley_	I just installed ubuntu 9.04, is root disabled by default? how do i enable it? I'm trying to do things and it won't let me	07:19
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, that bunch of numers & stuff between the colons is the password you just generated. We need to copy it to the server	07:19
Aacron	if anyone was in here earlier when I was having the grub issues, I fixed em!! (YAY for me!). As I thought, what grub sees when it is installed from inside linux is different from what it sees when it it loaded from MBR right after POST.	07:19
linuxguy2009	Amaranth: Big thumbs up, you da man/woman!	07:19
JimBiggs	jerroome`, i just tried booting with the previous kernel, and it didn't work better, so that could mean it's really video related, right?	07:19
Amaranth	!root \| Stanley_	07:19
ubottu	Stanley_: Do not try to guess the root password, that is impossible. Instead, realise the truth... there is no root password. Then you will see that it is 'sudo' that grants you access and not the root password. Look at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RootSudo	07:19
Tophu	@stanley: all commands cane be executte as root by useing sudo <command>	07:19
Tohuw	loof: no, actually. I'm not certain. this computer has two cards, a built in ati and the pci rage. one moment, let me try something	07:20
Aacron	Stanley_: sudo	07:20
Tophu	sudo so drops you into root	07:20
Tophu	sudo su*	07:20
linuxguy2009	Ill have to remeber that one next time.	07:20
Stanley_	so it's sudo in unbuntu instead of su	07:20
Stanley_	?	07:20
Tophu	http://www.pidgin.im/	07:20
Aacron	yeah, SuperUserDO	07:20
Tophu	on that front page it says yahoo problems are fixed	07:20
Aacron	least hwo I remember it :P	07:20
usingartistxlive	losher, okay, it is as you say from "sudo cat...."	07:20
wicking	again: i’ve added a file /etc/hal/fdi/policy/10-x11-input.fdi to my HAL config. how can i tell HAL to immediately use these new settings without a restart of the computer?	07:21
jerroome`	yes it is	07:21
linuxguy2009	Man i love this wallpaper-tray app from the repos.Its cool.	07:21
Stanley_	I'm new to linux and all I've used so far is CentOS on my servers, I tried to use Fedora but it seems a little clunky	07:21
Aacron	well now that my GRUB issues are solved, i now need help getting my not-so-supported SiiG sil0680 Medley card to play nice in Ubuntu	07:21
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, we need to copy the password to the server file /media/disk/etc/passwd. Do you have a favorite text editor?	07:21
JimBiggs	jerroome`, i rebooted in rescue mode, selected the xfix menu entry, but still no luck :/	07:21
Stanley_	So I'll have to get used to doing things "differently" in ubuntu	07:21
Tophu	@linuxguy2009: is that the one that auto rotates wallpapers?	07:22
linuxguy2009	Stanley deb distros like Ubuntu and Debian are great to start with.Good luck to you!	07:22
Aacron	from what I have read, I need to use dmraid	07:22
jerroome`	then I'm out of ideas	07:22
loof	tohuw: with that card i think you should be using mesa	07:22
xooo	where do i manage how ubuntu does updates? mines not doing it automatically. i tried update manager and its not in there.	07:22
usingartistxlive	losher, I have gedit open	07:22
jerroome`	maybe you should go to a xorg chat	07:22
Aacron	thing is last time I tried to use it, it gave me some funky erorr about dos: something size exceeded partition	07:22
linuxguy2009	Tophu yeah its cool I love it. I accidentally left the timer at 0 and set it to rotate and it was swapping papers like crazy till i reset it in gconf.hehe	07:22
jerroome`	those people might be able to help you better	07:22
JimBiggs	jerroome`, i switch to #xorg, let's hope there's some people as helping as you ;)	07:22
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, open /media/disk/etc/shadow in the editor	07:23
JimBiggs	thanks a lot !	07:23
unitheory	xooo, system > administration > software sources	07:23
jerroome`	you welcome	07:23
jerroome`	sorry I couldn't fix your problem	07:23
JimBiggs	jerroome`, at least it ruled out the obvious i believe :D	07:23
JimBiggs	well, it's not your fault is it? at least you tried!	07:23
jerroome`	good luck	07:24
losher	usingartistxlive: you might encounter permission problems. You may need to run sudo gedit /media/disk/etc/shadow to get it to work	07:24
Aacron	anyone use pidgin in here? I'd like to turn off the enter/leave messages but I dunno how to? Course I could just install and use a real IRC client... :\|	07:24
linuxguy2009	I learned a cool tweak the otehr day for the gnome panels, you can go to gconf and apps/panel/toplevel and set them to 0 delay for show and hide, and also 0 for how much of the panel shows when hiding and disable the animation.There totally hidden until you need em and there fast.Love it!	07:24
Aacron	yeah think I'll do that be back in a minute	07:25
usingartistxlive	losher, I closed it and reopened it with sudo	07:25
JimBiggs	jerroome`, thanks ;)	07:25
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, open a second terminal and do the same with /etc/shadow i.e. sudo gedit /etc/shadow	07:25
Arkhalis	I'm sleepy	07:26
coz_	guys where is the menu editor in kde4?	07:27
losher	Arkhalis: I'm pouring myself a brandy	07:27
usingartistxlive	losher , would a copy/paste from the first terminal to the opened gedit work?	07:27
Arkhalis	losher: I am bartending right now lol... Alcohol, money, karaoke, and linux /heaven	07:27
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loof	Tohuw, : i mean, you're trying to run opengl on an 8mb video card, right? or just trying to run X?	07:28
losher	usingartistxlive: yes, and that's exactly what we need to do. We want to cut&paste the root password i.e. everything between the first two colons from /etc/shadow to /media/disk/etc/shadow	07:28
linuxguy2009	Man I swear if I would have known how cool linux was back in the day I would have switched in a minute.I dont think I could live without it now.	07:28
losher	usingartistxlive: we on;y need to change the first line. I hope it's clear what I mean...	07:29
usingartistxlive	losher, does it matter that the rest of the numbers in the terminal are different from the numbers in gedit? That is, not counting "root".	07:29
Arkhalis	linuxguy2009: I love linux except for gaming, I play too new of games for wine to handle so I spend most of my time on windows... everything else is linux	07:29
losher	linuxguy2009: linux wasn't as cool as it is now, 'back in the day'....	07:29
unitheory	losher, yes it was :P	07:30
linuxguy2009	hehe true I bought a box of Mandrake 8.0 back when i was younger and had no clue how to do anything on it but install it. Its changed a lot.	07:30
losher	usingartistxlive: the rest of the numbers are ok to leave as is, we only want to cut & paste the actual password	07:30
unitheory	i guess it depends on how you define "cool" and "back in the day"	07:30
usingartistxlive	losher, okay, root line only, copied and pasted.	07:30
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, close both editors, we're done	07:30
usingartistxlive	losher, "save" first, I suppose	07:31
mbostwick	Ok I am going crazy...http://pastebin.com/m58352ba0...I can't get glx to work on xorg :(	07:31
losher	usingartistxlive: yes, on the /media/disk/etc/shadow, save then exit...	07:31
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linuxguy2009	Ok well g'night guys!	07:32
Arkhalis	night linuxguy2009	07:32
usingartistxlive	losher, thank you. I'll be back if I have any more problems.	07:32
Stanley_	Is there any way to get skype running on 9.05 64bit	07:33
zortec	I need help to configure my sound. It is not working.	07:33
losher	usingartistxlive: ok, I'll hang around for 5 minutes to be sure you can at least get past the boot...	07:33
usingartistxlive	okay	07:33
Arkhalis	zortec: have you tried this?	07:33
Arkhalis	!alsa \| zortec	07:33
ubottu	zortec: If you're having problems with sound, first ensure ALSA is selected, by double clicking on the volume control, then File -> Change Device (ALSA Mixer). If that fails, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Sound - https://help.ubuntu.com/community/SoundTroubleshooting - http://alsa.opensrc.org/DmixPlugin - For playing audio files, see !Players and !MP3	07:33
Tohuw	loof: yeah, forgot that rage xl is only an 8mb, and that fglrx would not work with it. switched back to the other one. I updated fglrx to the latest version, and now I get a "no screens found" (this card is an radeon xpress 200g series).	07:33
zortec	I'm using the HDA Nvidia alsa device	07:34
mbostwick	anyone know what would cause this: dlopen: /usr/lib/xorg/modules/extensions//libglx.so: undefined symbol: _nv000046gl	07:34
rizal	i have problem about crontab	07:35
rizal	i have problem about crontab	07:35
rizal	the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.	07:35
FloodBot1	rizal: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	07:35
Tohuw	loof: I also see: This ATI proprietary linux driver does not guarantee support of video driver ABI higher than 2.0 video driver ABI version of the X server is 5.0	07:35
loof	Tohuw, : yeah, i was like "uhhhhh, fglrx on an 8mb card??? i'm amazed you were trying to run X!" lol =S	07:35
Arkhalis	zortec: right, but have you set them all to also mixer to see if you get sound	07:35
zortec	Ok, got the sound working but it's very low	07:35
Stanley_	I have a Nvidia GTX-260 and an Nvidia 9500GT that i use to power 4 monitors, What Drivers should I install?	07:36
zortec	Arkhalis: I had to turn up the PCM control	07:36
losher	mbostwick: my first guess is that the module was built for a different version of xserver than the one running...	07:36
loof	Tohuw, : you should try using MESA if you want opengl on the card	07:36
zortec	Arkhalis: Where would I set them all? I only see one drop down for mixer	07:36
Kasm279	i cant get ubuntu 9.04 to work with my laptop's touchpad, and its an issue in kernel 2.6 as it works with 8.10 and DSL	07:36
Arkhalis	zortec: good, my sound is rediculously quiet as well... haven't worked that one out yet	07:36
loof	stanley: the closed source nvidia drivers. 180.60 is the newest as i recall	07:36
Arkhalis	zortec: ah, that was me being dumb ignore the "all"	07:37
zortec	Arkhalis: I'm going to search around and see why sound on linux is extremely quiet	07:37
Aacron	quick question: I'm not sure I like xchat-gnome too terribly much... options I'd like (like auto-identify) are not here... any recommendations?	07:37
Stanley_	loof: So I should use Nvidia's drivers?	07:37
Arkhalis	zortec: there may be a fix in that alsa reference i just showed you	07:37
unitheory	Aacron, xchat can auto-identify	07:37
Arkhalis	zortec: if you find a solution msg me a website (i've just been too busy to figure it out)	07:38
Arkhalis	please ^^	07:38
zortec	Arkhalis: No problem :)	07:38
Kasm279	any ideas?	07:38
Aacron	I'm using xchat-gnome (said it was supported by Ubuntu, the normal xchat wasn't?)	07:38
Aacron	unitheory: so should I de-install this one and use the other xchat?	07:39
Arkhalis	Aacron: just set your identify as a perform action on boot of xchat	07:39
loof	Stanley_, : yeah	07:39
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unitheory	Aacron, i'm not familiar with xchat-gnome.	07:39
Stanley_	loof: is there a tutorial available for that? I've seen a couple but am not sure which one to use	07:39
Aacron	dont see the self-identify option anywhere (nor a way to turn off these pesky scrolling enter/leave messages)	07:40
Aacron	kk, guess the other is safe?	07:40
Aacron	Was kinda leery of stuff that doesn't say 'supported by ubuntu' on it :P	07:40
loof	the newest off the nvidia site	07:40
loof	which is 180.60	07:40
Aacron	I'll be back in a minute then... try out the other one	07:40
Kasm279	any ideas at all?	07:40
Tohuw	loof: what should I use for the "driver" paramter in my xorg.conf to use mesa?	07:41
unitheory	Kasm279, what model laptop?	07:41
Kasm279	Averatec 3725-EH1 (3700 series), unitheory	07:42
hai	how can I continue booting the system from rescue mode while im ssh'd in	07:42
hai	init?	07:42
Stanley_	loof: Can they be installed via the packet manager or is it manual	07:42
Stanley_	loof: also, nvidia' website shows it as the latest version being 185.18.14	07:43
Arkhalis	zortec: Hey, think this may help... let me know if it does http://dollarunderscore.wordpress.com/2007/05/28/sound-quiet-after-upgrade-to-ubuntu-704/	07:44
unitheory	Kasm279, make a backup of your xorg.conf and try the solution in http://ubuntuforums.org/archive/index.php/t-312821.html	07:44
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k2000	Can anyone help me recover a corrupt ntfs filesystem contained in a raid0 array. The corruption is a result of a defective memory	07:45
Aacron	ahh this is much better so far	07:45
loof	Stanley_, : ahh, my bad. 185 >> 180. so yeah, use those	07:47
unitheory	Aacron, if you right-click on the channel tab the hide join/parts setting is in there	07:47
Aacron	kk thanks :P	07:47
Stanley_	loof: and is it really as easy as "sh NVIDIA-Linux-x86_64-185.18.14-pkg2.run" ?? I remember last time it was alot more difficult	07:47
losher	k2000: there is an ntfsfix program, but it's no substitute for chkdsk, You really need to get a windows system to check/repair the fs	07:48
k2000	losher: when I try to boot windows from the installation cd it hangs b4 detecting the hard drives	07:49
rizal	i have problem about crontab	07:49
rizal	the script runs fine manually, but it is not running when you've scheduled it to run from cron.	07:49
k2000	losher: It has vista on it	07:49
loof	Stanley_, : yeah it's pretty simple if you choose the basic options. http://us.download.nvidia.com/XFree86/Linux-x86_64/185.18.14/README/index.html is the whole manual (pretty big, not really needed) see sections 15 and 13 for details on multi-monitor support.	07:49
losher	k2000: sorry, I know even less about windows than I do about linux...	07:49
nellmathew	anyone know how to change gnome tray icons of specific apps? (dropbox's 16x16 icon is annoying in my theme)	07:50
k2000	In linux I see both hard drives	07:50
Stanley_	How do i exit X before installing?	07:50
k2000	linux even detects a ntfs filesystem on the first hard drive	07:50
k2000	but the second hard drive's filesystem is listed as unknown	07:50
unitheory	nellmathew, afaik each application controls the appearance/presence of its tray icon	07:51
nellmathew	ah thanks unitheory	07:51
k2000	I dont mind tryint the ntfsfix in linux	07:51
Arkhalis	zortec: you there?	07:51
loof	Stanley_, : backup your /etc/X11/xorg.conf file before you go ahead with the install, tho, just in case you have problems you can put it back in place and use your old x config file that way	07:51
k2000	I was successfull with most of the time I used it on non-raid drives	07:51
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losher	k2000: by all means try it, but if you read the man page, you'll see if recommends booting into windows...	07:52
unitheory	nellmathew, if you can set the app to disable its tray icon there are application out there that let you make tray icons for any program and you can configure them if i recall correctly	07:52
\|Ryan	Hey, I'm about to burn BackTrack 4 preRelease to a Dvd. Do I just burn the iso straight to the DVD and it works? or is there specific things I need to do?	07:52
unitheory	and i continue missing the s key	07:53
k2000	I tried everything I know in windows :(	07:53
k2000	I'll try again then	07:53
zortec	Arkhalis: I'm still here, what did it for me was to turn up the Surround slider in the volume control	07:53
k2000	just in case I missed something	07:53
Apollo2366	Might be a noob question, but where do I change the default applications for different filetypes?	07:54
losher	\|Ryan: if it's an iso, be sure to burn it in 'image mode' is the only gotcha...	07:54
nellmathew	unitheory, thanks, sounds good enough. i'll look into that then..	07:54
Stanley_	The installation requirements say: XFree86/X.Org 4.0.1/6.7 and to check type: XFree86 -version/Xorg -version	07:54
unitheory	Apollo2366, right-click on the file you want to change then it's under the "open with" tab	07:54
Aacron	hey k2000, I just had a huge thing I had to deal with for grub	07:55
Aacron	and I had similar issues	07:55
Stanley_	it said ntohing was found so i did a sudo aptitude install Xfree86	07:55
Aacron	I resolved it... maybe you're having a similar issue?	07:55
Stanley_	And it's still not giving me a version	07:55
\|Ryan	losher: Any recommended software for doing this?	07:55
losher	\|Ryan: what os version are you running?	07:56
Apollo2366	unitheory, it works once, but the default application for that filetype remains the same	07:56
Arkhalis	zortec: using the sudo alsamixer command? I just fixed mine by turing up the line out as well (apparently it affects the sound some)	07:56
\|Ryan	Ubuntu 9.04	07:56
zortec	Arkhalis: Let me give that a try. :)	07:56
zetheroo	seems like none of the screen recording apps really work ... they all have glitches ... what a pain!	07:56
unitheory	Apollo2366, sorry, right click the file then click properties then open with.	07:57
Arkhalis	zortec: other than that I've got nothing google doesn't so good luck... going on a smoke break. if you need me msg me and i'll get back to you in a few	07:57
Apollo2366	Oh ok thanks, unitheory	07:58
losher	\|Ryan: dunno, I use the command line myself. growisofs -speed=4 -dvd-compat -Z /dev/cdrom=file.iso	07:58
\|Ryan	losher: And that will burn it to my DVD? 'file.iso' being BackTrack4, in this case?	07:59
losher	\|Ryan: yep, that's the theory....	07:59
=== kipas_angin is now known as myphnix
loof	Stanley_, : did it error out saying that it required xfree86/xorg in those versions? or just tell you? if you've got a recent install of ubuntu (say, 9.04) you're fine	08:00
Arkhalis	zortec: back now lol, that do anything for you?	08:00
Stanley_	Loof: okay thanks. It does error out saying I need to exit out of X first though, how do I do that ?	08:01
bkraptor	is firefox 3.5 being backported to jaunty?	08:01
SyphonSilent	ahh wine is so confusing	08:01
darkdelusions	SyphonSilent: how so	08:02
unitheory	more inadequate than confusing imho	08:02
SyphonSilent	all the repositories and authentication keys lol	08:02
SyphonSilent	I dont understand	08:02
zortec	Arkhalis: That was a fast smoke break.	08:02
loof	Stanley_, : init 3 as root will drop you out of X; obviously if you're in X talking to us here on irc on that machine you're wanting to upgrade the drivers on, then that will kill your X session and all your apps you have open in X	08:04
unitheory	SyphonSilent, sudo wget -q http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/387EE263.gpg -O- \| sudo apt-key add - && sudo wget http://wine.budgetdedicated.com/apt/sources.list.d/jaunty.list -O /etc/apt/sources.list.d/winehq.list && sudo aptitude update && sudo aptitude install wine	08:04
unitheory	;]	08:04
SyphonSilent	i wish I understoon what that mean lol	08:05
SyphonSilent	thanks =]	08:05
Stanley_	Loof: I thought there _was_ no root?	08:05
alkamid	hello	08:06
Arkhalis	zortec: I'm working right now, bartender. So my smoke breaks are short but sweet	08:06
DeCypher1	How do i go about opening a .desktop file?	08:06
losher	Stanley_: there is no root password. But there is a root...	08:06
loof	you could try "sudo init 3"	08:06
alkamid	I have a question concerning 8.10-9.04 upgrade	08:06
psychosmose	Bonne nuit ;-) !	08:06
alkamid	I have a minimal install of Intrepid	08:06
zortec	Arkhalis: Ah :)	08:06
DeCypher1	!gdm	08:06
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about gdm	08:06
alkamid	if I upgrade, will it stay "minimal" ?	08:07
Stanley_	losher: how do i get in root then?	08:07
Stanley_	loof: sudo init 3 does nothign	08:07
zortec	Arkhalis: You have any news on the 9.10 release?	08:07
loof	Stanley_, : there is a root account, it's just disabled by default. i'd recommend re-enabling it. if you need to recover your system ever in the future you'll need to know your root password	08:07
alkamid	I mean I'm no tsure if it's not going to instlal any addidtional stuff that I simply don't need	08:07
DeCypher1	How do i go about opening a .desktop file?	08:08
Stanley_	So i'm logged in as root now in terminal and when i type 'init 3' nothing happens	08:08
alkamid	anyone?	08:09
Stanley_	DeCyper1: I believe a .desktop is just a shortcut	08:09
loof	Stanley_, : system->administration->users and groups. you can re-enable root there and assign the root account a password. be aware, you don't want to be running stuff normally as root, it's mostly only for major system upgrades/changes/major software package updates (wine needs to be installed as root, as an example)	08:10
Stanley_	loof: yea I have it unlocked and a password set now, so i go into terminal type 'su' enter my password and i'm in root, now i type 'init 3' and _nothing_ happens	08:11
Arkhalis	zortec: I don't sorry, again with the been too busy (two jobs and school)	08:11
zortec	Arkhalis: No worry, I was just curious	08:12
MachinTruc	hi	08:12
jerroome	hi	08:12
MachinTruc	could someone help me test an installation? i just need you to telnet to 76.71.172.220 on port 2223 and tell me if you get a debian prompt	08:13
MachinTruc	it works locally but i need to make sure it works from remote hosts before i leave this computer	08:13
Arkhalis	zortec: Gotta start closing up which means bed time for me in a bit... see ya later	08:13
Arkhalis	Night all~	08:13
zortec	Arkhalis: Night man	08:14
nzerox	MachinTruc, I?l test it for you	08:14
MachinTruc	ok, thx	08:14
nzerox	Trying 76.71.172.220...	08:15
nzerox	telnet: Unable to connect to remote host: Connection refused	08:15
nzerox	rrajaratnam@webserver:~$	08:15
MachinTruc	did you specify port 2223?	08:15
nzerox	MachinTruc, I send you result in pm	08:15
nzerox	MachinTruc, I did	08:15
loof	Stanley_, : er, sorry, try telinit 3	08:15
thomthom	How do add a kernel enty to grub	08:15
vigo	To clear out all the kernels at boot is a grub thing or CLI thing, there are for or five kernels to choose from now and I think I want to clean that up a bit?	08:15
sleepy_cat	ok the question sounds weird .. but i am calling a function repeatedly.. i want an english term which signifies "calling the function again and again"	08:16
loof	Stanley_, : it'll kill any graphical ui you have running though	08:16
Stanley_	loof: still nothing	08:16
jerroome	thomthom you need to edit /boot/grub/menu.lst	08:16
loof	and you're in as root?	08:16
Stanley_	yea	08:16
osxfr33k	Is there a command in the terminal to log all messages that are printed during rpmbuild -bb of the kernel.spec file? Including all warnings etc?	08:16
osxfr33k	echo?	08:16
Stanley_	root@my-computer:/#	08:16
thomthom	I know that, I need to find the correct information about the kernel	08:16
zortec	osxfr33k: For that I'd set up a cron job	08:17
mafsi_	loof: or you can install Startup-Manager :)	08:17
loof	hmnn	08:17
zortec	loof: I second Startup-Manager	08:17
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osxfr33k	zortec, never used a cron before	08:17
jerroome	sleepy_cat if the funtion calls itself, it's recursivly, otherwise, I don't know how to call it ... :)	08:17
osxfr33k	so echo will not do the job?	08:17
sleepy_cat	no not like that	08:18
sleepy_cat	i am calling that function at time 0 then again at time 2 and again at time 5	08:18
jerroome	thomthom which correct information ? there can be a lot	08:18
Stanley_	loof: let me reboot first and i'll be back and try those commands again	08:18
sleepy_cat	so .. i am calling it.. its not recursive	08:18
loof	Stanley_, : or you could use startup-manager (i've never used it). i'm pretty sure there's also a keypress (escape maybe?) during boot to give you a list of boot options, of which a console with & without networking is an option	08:18
sleepy_cat	how to phrase it in english	08:18
unitheory	sleepy_cat, recurring?	08:18
sleepy_cat	recurring	08:19
sleepy_cat	hmm.. not sure	08:19
jerroome	periodic ?	08:19
thomthom	when I installed the new kernel through synaptics I was doing something else while and when it asks you what to do with menu.lst I wasn't paying attention and kept the installed version	08:19
sleepy_cat	no not periodic	08:19
sleepy_cat	i think repeatedly .. sounds more appropriate	08:20
bigchris	can anyone tell me what is the best app for desklets/widgets?	08:20
sleepy_cat	recurring is also proper	08:20
thomthom	I didn't do the thre way merge like I usually do	08:20
zortec	loof, Stanley_: You can just use escape during the boot up.	08:20
sleepy_cat	what looks better repeatedly or recurringly..	08:20
zortec	Oh, for my problem earlier I removed network manager and installed wicd if anyone wants to know	08:20
sleepy_cat	the sentence is ".. when the function is called ........."	08:21
unitheory	thomthom, you could also probably reinstall the latest kernel, right?	08:21
Stanley_	loof: init 3 and telinit 3 are both still not working	08:21
vigo	osxfr33k: Logs? http://www.cyberciti.biz/faq/ubuntu-linux-gnome-system-log-viewer/	08:21
jerroome	thomthom, so you just have to look inside /boot to see the version of your new kernel and then add a line with the correct kernel name inside menu.lst	08:21
jerroome	where is the problem ?	08:21
DeCypher1	How do i rename a GDM Theme	08:21
alkamid	I have a question concerning 8.10-9.04 upgrade: I have a minimal install of Intrepid; if I upgrade, will it stay "minimal" ?	08:21
alkamid	I mean I'm no tsure if it's not going to instlal any addidtional stuff that I simply don't need	08:21
thomthom	unitheroy: I tried that	08:21
zortec	alkamid: It depends what packages you pull in.	08:22
loof	Stanley_, : or you could use startup-manager (i've never used it). i'm pretty sure there's also a keypress (escape maybe?) during boot to give you a list of boot options, of which a console with & without networking is an option	08:22
alkamid	zortec: what does it mean?	08:22
zortec	alkamid: What does 'minimal' mean, is that what you want to know?	08:22
vigo	alkamid: Make a good backup now, you cannot go wrong with that.	08:22
loof	Stanley: do zortec confirmed, you can hit esc during bootup to get the boot options screen, from there boot to console with networking, and install the driver there as root	08:23
lexr	hi	08:23
MachinTruc	could someone help me test an installation? i just need you to telnet to 76.71.172.220 on port 2223 and tell me if you get a debian prompt	08:23
jerroome	thomthom pastebin ls /boot and cat /boot/grub/menu.lst	08:23
zortec	MachinTruc: Sure, one second	08:24
vigo	!pastebin	08:24
ubottu	pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic	08:24
alkamid	vigo: of course I will, I thought it's a well-known fact what the upgrade does (:	08:24
alkamid	!backup	08:24
ubottu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	08:24
mafsi	MachinTruc: The authenticity of host '[76.71.172.220]:2223 ([76.71.172.220]:2223)' can't be established.	08:24
mafsi	RSA key fingerprint is e0:95:b2:cb:b7:1b:b4:01:76:a1:2b:de:41:47:82:83.	08:24
mafsi	Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)?	08:24
ashlessburn	yes	08:24
ashlessburn	lol	08:24
MachinTruc	it works, unitheory just did it. Thanks for the help.	08:25
vigo	alkamid: Okee dokee, just makes sense to me to back up anything before making any changes or even if a power surge hits or whatever, I am big on backups.	08:25
osxfr33k	vigo, that might help with a lot of the warning and install messages. I just want to catch all tha gets printed in the terminal window to a text or file	08:26
osxfr33k	any simple way of doing this?	08:26
chanux	no automoc packag for hardy. Any idea howto get?	08:26
osxfr33k	and ita almost 30 minutes of messages	08:26
Spike1506	i removed some locals with localpurge, is there any way to restore those?	08:26
ashlessburn	how do u see who is online	08:26
unitheory	osxfr33k, i think you can append ">> file.txt" (or something like that) to the end of the command	08:27
thomthom	jerroome: http://pastebin.ca/1470820	08:27
unitheory	osxfr33k, or rather just > file.txt	08:28
osxfr33k	ya I think that works for most of the messages but the warning and some minor things don't get printed into the file that way	08:28
vigo	osxfr33k: Erm, I use to know that script, is like /mv or something, but with a lot more calls. Yeah, unitheory is on the right track.	08:28
osxfr33k	So > rather than >>	08:28
unitheory	osxfr33k, for instance if you "ls > list.txt" you get a file with the output of ls	08:28
osxfr33k	Will it catch the warning messages?	08:28
osxfr33k	how about this	08:29
osxfr33k	rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec	08:29
osxfr33k	very lengthy	08:29
thomthom	I copied and pasted the 2.6.30-5kernel then change it 2.6.30-9. but that didn't work	08:29
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_ruben	why build a kernel rpm for ubuntu?	08:29
unitheory	osxdude, rpmbuild -bb kernel.spec > report.txt	08:29
osxfr33k	not necessary rpmbuild but similar	08:29
osxfr33k	make etc	08:30
unitheory	should work but i'm not sure ;]	08:30
leo	helo	08:30
osxfr33k	thanks will try	08:30
jerroome	thomthom : just add this to menu.lst http://paste.ubuntu.com/201900/	08:30
_ruben	command 1> stdout.txt 2> stderr.txt ... stdout.txt will have normal output .. stderr.txt will have the errors	08:30
vigo	osxfr33k: Maybe this one...https://help.ubuntu.com/community/LinuxLogFiles	08:31
ryancr	anyone here have pyclutter working on jaunty??	08:31
jerroome	thomthom : also add the uuid line	08:31
vigo	osxfr33k: Is basically a syslog with an rpm added in?	08:32
thomthom	will do, brb	08:33
subdolus	Can a single USB thumbstick hold two bootable images? Can I use grub/lilo/whatever to give me a choice between the two, AFTER I've chosen to boot the USB stick without a harddrive	08:34
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vigo	subdolus: I am not sure, try two LiveCDs or have you tried a LiveUSB.	08:36
thomthom	jerroome: thanks, what did you do differently, I copied and pasted 2.6.30.5 entry then changed 2.6.30-5 to 2.6.30-9	08:37
n0gear	subdolus: excellent question, been wondering the same for a while	08:37
thomthom	but it didn't work when I did it that way	08:37
subdolus	I can't imagine why it wouldn't work	08:38
Stanley_	When I hit escape on bootup I have 5 options, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Generic, Ubuntu, Ubuntu Generic, and Memtest	08:38
subdolus	just after some suggestions/direction	08:38
Stanley_	nothing about booting to terminal	08:38
jerroome	subdolus : I'm sure it works, I already did it	08:38
jerroome	thomthom I did the same	08:38
subdolus	jerroome: how did you acheive it?	08:38
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ashlessburn	anybody on here really good with ubuntu i mean ungoldy good	08:39
thomthom	are you supposed to update-grub after you add the entry?	08:39
ashlessburn	pm is so	08:39
jerroome	thomthom no certainly not	08:39
Stanley_	Does anybody know how I can exit X to install the Nvidia Drivers?	08:40
thomthom	well, maybe I did something wrong when I tried it the first time, not to worriy though, 2.6.30-9 is in the enrty and loads, so thank you	08:41
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rabelais	why is there a significant delay between what my mic pics up and what I hear back in my speakers when I aplay /dev/dsp ?	08:41
loof	Stanley_, : it's after that, it's after you've selected your os.	08:41
ashlessburn	rablais try changing your audio playback matching the device u have there should be several options for the audio config	08:42
ashlessburn	sometimes the defulat or pic auto detect is not as good	08:42
loof	Stanley_, : i'm just kinda now realizing, you might just wanna install the drivers via the restricted drivers option in system->administration->hardware drivers =S	08:42
Stanley_	Will I get the same performane loof?	08:43
hero_nocturnal	which virtual machiine is better virtual box or vmware,,or is thr any other more better one	08:43
vigo	Stanley_: What kernel are you using now?	08:43
loof	close, the drivers will only be a couple months older	08:43
Stanley_	Somebody in #nvidia also suggested "apt-get install nvidia-glx"	08:43
rabelais	ashlessburn: what? how does that affect the bufferring of the recording device?	08:43
Stanley_	vigo: latest, just downloaded today	08:43
ashlessburn	it can by using a diffrent config	08:43
rabelais	ashlessburn: I don't follow, can you explain a little more?	08:44
ashlessburn	had the same issue with teamspeak...it was set to oss and i changed it to ati alsa and worked perfectly	08:44
ashlessburn	more of what it sees it as	08:44
k2000	anyone know why my ubuntu live cd is running SUPER slow and when I type sudo top I get cpu load: 1.70 1.90, 1.59 ? I just booted and did nothing else	08:44
loof	Stanley_, : yeah, just get them from the hardware drivers page in system->administration->hardware drivers	08:45
rabelais	ashlessburn: so what exactly do I change in aplay? I'm just feeding it /dev/dsp...should I give it something else/	08:45
k2000	(I have a raid0 issue at the moment, I dunno if it could be related)	08:45
Stanley_	loof: Would "apt-get install nvidia-glx" work better ?	08:45
ashlessburn	hmm just a feed. shouldnt tech be affected however what ubuntu version are you on	08:45
kraut	moin	08:46
loof	Stanley_, : i think it would pull the same date/version, depends on if you want to do it commandline or via the gui	08:46
rabelais	ashlessburn: the command I'm issuing is "aplay /dev/dsp" if that's wrong, then what command should I use to play back the microphone input from the console?	08:46
ashlessburn	should be a simple audio setting actualyl which u can test through GUI try going into your sound prefrences and test it through gui	08:47
Freewolf	hey all, is there anybody who can help with kmyfirewall configuration?	08:47
ashlessburn	once thats doen try the diffrent audio resources. ones that will not work will error out or not playback	08:48
vigo	Stanley_: about halfway down. https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MultiseatX#Edit%20/etc/X11/xorg.conf, Edit /etc/X11/xorg.conf	08:48
hero_nocturnal	which one is a better virtual machine virtualbox or vmware	08:48
ashlessburn	the device you are using analof or digital?	08:48
rabelais	ashlessburn: let's say that's set...what program do I use to play back the microphone out to my speakers?	08:48
thomthom	who here is testing karmic	08:48
rabelais	ashlessburn: I was assuming this was done with aplay, if that's wrong and I should use another program, what program should I use?	08:49
samorai	Hi!	08:49
samorai	I want to install Home 3D	08:49
vigo	!karmic	08:50
vigo	thomthom: That is #ubuntu+1 I think	08:50
ubottu	Karmic Koala is the codename for Ubuntu 9.10, due October 2009 - Karmic WILL break - Discussion and support in #ubuntu+1	08:50
samorai	I look French Chat	08:50
ziroday	!fr \| samorai	08:50
ubottu	samorai: Ce canal est en anglais uniquement. Si vous avez besoin d'aide ou voulez discuter en francais, merci de rejoindre #ubuntu-fr	08:50
thomthom	thanks vigo	08:50
Mash	anyone knows how to establish my gnome-ppp connection i did install the package but when i got connected it easily disconnected what might be wrong ?	08:51
madhurya	!papul	08:51
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about papul	08:51
ziroday	madhurya: ?	08:51
madhurya	!sex	08:51
ubottu	Some topics are controversial and often end in negativity. Take care on subjects like war, race, religion, politics, gender, sexuality, drugs, potentially illegal activities and suicide. The topics are not banned; stating your position is ok, but trolling, baiting, hostility or repetition are not. If you are asked to stop, do so politely. Disputes to !appeals, please adhere to !Freenode Policy and the !CodeOfConduct	08:51
ziroday	madhurya: you might want to do that in PM with the bot as to not flood this channel.	08:51
rabelais	Mash: most likely networkmanager is interfering	08:51
madhurya	!appeal	08:51
ubottu	If you disagree with a decision by an operator, please first pay #ubuntu-ops a visit. If you are still unhappy, please see https://wiki.ubuntu.com/IrcTeam/AppealProcess for the steps you should take. If you feel the need to discuss the channel rules, please contact the ops on IRC or via the email address on the aforementioned page.	08:51
ashlessburn	i dont really really on those. more of a test and pray...its more the device compatabiltiy which after 9.04 is greatly increased i personally have never used the CMD line to test these features as bc they are not real world just simple...the gui adds the real delay well bc it is gui	08:51
ashlessburn	more of a why then why not	08:52
rabelais	ashlessburn: thanks for your help, I'm not communicating my issue to you properly...but thank you	08:52
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rabelais	Mash: disable networkmanaged by rightclicking on the little networked computers up at the top right and uncheck (enable networking)	08:53
jerroome	subdolus I can't find that configuration again, but as I remember, I just installed grub on it and did mapping inside it to set the image I want to boot as hd0	08:53
rabelais	Mash: your ppp program should work without failing then	08:53
Mash	ok rabelais thanks	08:53
Apollo2366	Hey, semi-noob question here. Where are program files kept in Ubuntu?	08:53
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ziroday	Apollo2366: many different places, what are you looking for exactly?	08:54
Apollo2366	Firefox	08:54
rabelais	Apollo2366: everything is in your home directory /home/<username>	08:54
rabelais	Apollo2366: firefox is in /home/<username>/.mozilla	08:54
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ziroday	rabelais: those are the configuration settings, not all the program files :)	08:55
ziroday	Apollo2366: to see all this files provided by a package you can do dpkg -L <packagename>	08:55
rabelais	ziroday: apologies, I figured he was asking for the user-specific program files	08:56
Maelos	How do you get the reverse of that -- i.e. what file does a package belong to?	08:56
madhurya	how can i see if python is installed in my system?	08:56
Mash	ok be back later try my luck	08:56
ziroday	Maelos: install the apt-file application	08:56
Freewolf	I'm running kMyFirewall with sudo command so with root access but it won't change iptables even if it shwos that it changed	08:56
vaibhav_	today's update removed lots of mono packages, , are they cleaning it up?	08:56
jerroome	madhurya just type python	08:56
vigo	ls	08:56
ktne	hello	08:57
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cemc	hi. is there a command line tool for downloading mail from an exchange server using MAPI? sort of like a fetchmail, but with MAPI	08:57
ktne	is there any way to install 32bit mplayer on amd64?	08:57
* i_am_an_indian asks if there are any indians here :)		08:57
ktne	i_am_an_indian: aren't there two types of them? you didn't specified which one :)	08:58
ziroday	cemc: evolution should have that ability	08:58
zortec	ktne: You can use aptitude or apt-get to install mplayer.	08:58
ziroday	i_am_an_indian: #ubuntu-in	08:58
ktne	zortec: i can't find the mplayer 32 bit package	08:58
rabelais	ktne: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=62685	08:58
zortec	ziroday: Good day :)	08:58
ziroday	zortec: howdy	08:58
ktne	rabelais: i went there but it looks quite outdated	08:58
ktne	from 2005	08:59
raidghos1	I try to use the bttv as module for Multimedia video controller: Brooktree Corporation Bt878 Video Capture but not working as it should.	08:59
i_am_an_indian	ziroday: thanks	08:59
cemc	ziroday: I'm looking for something more light than evolution, something that could fetch the emails in a maildir	08:59
zortec	ktne: You can also use aptitude to search for packages, for instance: sudo aptitude search mplay will pull up all packages that are related to that term	08:59
Apollo2366	Okay, that didn't seem to help much. What I'm really trying to do is install an extension from an .xpi file. Can anyone tell me how to do it?	08:59
vigo	!email	08:59
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about email	08:59
vigo	whoops	08:59
Maelos	ziroday: apt-file will search the entire apt cache wont it?	08:59
ktne	zortec: there is no 32bit package there	09:00
Maelos	I want to know which package on the filesystem a particular file belongs to	09:00
raidghos1	also tried bt878 snd_bt87x bttv without luck.	09:00
Myrtti	i_am_an_indian: do you know you're ban evading?	09:00
ziroday	Maelos: err or the whole repo	09:00
vigo	I like Thunderbird, but that is kinda heavy far as System Processes go.	09:00
i_am_an_indian	Myrtti: whats that?	09:00
rabelais	Apollo2366: you should just be able to reference the file from firefox (use file:///) and it should give you the install prompt	09:00
ActionParsnip	vigo: try mutt, very light	09:00
Maelos	right repo, as defined by sources	09:00
Maelos	Im more interested in the local dpkg db	09:00
Apollo2366	rabelais, Thanks I'll try it.	09:01
vaibhav_	vigo : use evolution	09:01
Myrtti	i_am_an_indian: changed your nickname to gain access to the channel. Please re-join #ubuntu-ops	09:01
ActionParsnip	Myrtti: doesnt it go by ip?	09:01
ktne	zortec: there appears to be a tool called "ia32-apt-get", this might do the trick	09:01
zortec	ktne: You could not find any packages with mplayer?	09:01
ktne	i have found, but they are all 64bit	09:01
vigo	ActionParsnip: Thank you, I use Mutt on gNewSense. I like it!	09:01
zortec	ktne: I just ran the search and there is an mplayer package.	09:02
Myrtti	i_am_an_indian: fail	09:02
ktne	zortec: what i need is 32bit mplayer on 64bit installation	09:02
ActionParsnip	vigo: means you can check you email via ssh from anywhere ;)	09:02
b0w	hello! anyone know about a good program for ipod on linux?	09:02
i_am_an_indian	what does /echo do?	09:02
zortec	ktne: The name of the package is 'mplayer' in aptitude	09:02
vigo	I love the slogan.	09:02
Maelos	dpkg --search <filename>, thanks ubuntu docs (and rtfm me)	09:03
b0w	vigo are you talking to me?	09:03
vigo	b0w: Not yet, no	09:03
b0w	never mind, anyone know any good program for ipod on linux?	09:03
ActionParsnip	Maelos: or: apt-cache search <thing>	09:04
ActionParsnip	!ipod	09:04
ubottu	For information on how to sync and add tracks to your iPod, see the guide at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/IPodHowto - For the iPhone and the iPod Touch, see https://help.ubuntu.com/community/PortableDevices/iPhone - See !RockBox for information on liberating your iPod	09:04
Myrtti	i_am_an_indian: rejoin #ubuntu-ops	09:04
chanux	b0w, banshee, rythmbox, amarok?	09:04
Maelos	ActionParsnip: not the same	09:04
vigo	b0w: I do not do Ipod stuff, but have seen some in the repos or Synaptic.	09:04
Apollo2366	rabelais, Thanks a bunch! It worked.	09:04
Maelos	ActionParsnip: that'll search packages which aren't installed too	09:04
rabelais	Apollo2366: welcome	09:04
b0w	well thanks for your help guys	09:04
b0w	:)	09:04
ashlessburn	so still waiting on the ubuntu god to msg me	09:05
ActionParsnip	Maelos: oic, erm: dpkg -l \| grep <somethin>	09:05
Mash	rabelais it's the same i did disable but no luck to stay connected	09:05
ActionParsnip	!ask \| ashlessburn	09:05
ubottu	ashlessburn: Please don't ask to ask a question, simply ask the question (all on ONE line, so others can read and follow it easily). If anyone knows the answer they will most likely reply. :-)	09:05
Mash	and i copy the problem could i post to you ?	09:05
chanux	!automoc hardy	09:05
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about automoc hardy	09:05
rabelais	Mash: sure	09:05
chanux	!automoc	09:05
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about automoc	09:05
alkamid	!backup	09:06
ubottu	There are many ways to back your system up. Here's a few: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/BackupYourSystem , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/DuplicityBackupHowto , https://wiki.ubuntu.com/HomeUserBackup , https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MondoMindi - See also !sbackup and !cloning	09:06
ActionParsnip	!find automoc	09:06
ubottu	Found: automoc	09:06
nahira	can anyone help in typing syriac or persian language in openoffice, I can't choose the language	09:06
ActionParsnip	!info automoc	09:06
ubottu	automoc (source: automoc): automatic moc for Qt 4 packages. In component main, is extra. Version 1.0~svn906755+0.9.88-0ubuntu2 (jaunty), package size 28 kB, installed size 124 kB	09:06
ActionParsnip	nahira: install the language pack in the package manager of you choice	09:06
zortec	I'm curious, how many questions get asked in here on a daily basis?	09:06
ActionParsnip	zortec: lots and lots	09:07
zortec	For the regular users, who might can answer that	09:07
zortec	lol	09:07
vigo	nahira: There are many Language Packages in the repositories.	09:07
ActionParsnip	zortec: its the sole purpose of the room	09:07
zortec	It's a good thing no one has the FT job of answering questions in here	09:07
Mash	who got the KPPP packages for Ubuntu 8.10	09:07
chanux	ActionParsnip, No automoc on hardy repos :( what can I do?	09:07
zortec	I think they might go insane	09:07
i_am_an_indian	i have heard that indian languages can be used with ubuntu? is that true? how can i do that?	09:07
zortec	Is Indian an official language?	09:08
ActionParsnip	chanux: you can compile it or find an equivelant	09:08
nahira	I'm new to ubuntu so don't know where to start at all	09:08
losher	zortec: support is surprisingly hard work...	09:08
Myrtti	i_am_an_indian: are you ignoring me, please join #ubuntu-ops.	09:08
ActionParsnip	zortec: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Languages_of_India	09:08
ashlessburn	vlc vs gstreamer in ubuntu 9.04 running into several codex issues however gstreamer seams more stable then vlc in some aspects, cd music video play back in .avi wandering if there is possibly a pkg im missing...tried the libdvdcc still no luck	09:08
chanux	ActionParsnip, aptitude search didn't give me anything	09:08
ActionParsnip	!info automoc hardy	09:09
ubottu	Package automoc does not exist in hardy	09:09
zortec	losher: I remember when you guys helped me out quite a bit, but it occurred to me with all these questions... does that mean maybe the support docs need to be expanded?	09:09
chanux	ActionParsnip, all sources found on Google are version specific	09:09
whatis_tux	I saw that it's possible to user some folders like /home as a mount point for partitions... but is it possible to use /home/$user as a mount point for a partition?	09:09
i_am_an_indian	Myrtti: ok i have joined	09:09
whatis_tux	use*	09:09
zortec	I think the docs in ubuntu are great, but it seems a lot of issues are unresolved	09:09
ActionParsnip	chanux: then you will need to compile it, find an alternative, or upgrade to a release with it in	09:09
chanux	ActionParsnip, Only availble for Intrepid+	09:09
nahira	ActionParsnip: how to install the package?	09:09
zortec	nahira: You can install packages multiple ways: synaptic, apt-get (cli), aptitude (cli), or add/remove	09:10
ActionParsnip	whatis_tux: sure is	09:10
losher	zortec: in my experience, many people don't read docs...	09:10
ActionParsnip	whatis_tux: add a normal entry to /etc/fstab to do the moounting and you can mount to the folder	09:10
JimBiggs	guys, how do i revert to before the update of this morning? it screwed my display, and don't know how to fix it :/	09:10
ActionParsnip	nahira: what package?	09:10
ActionParsnip	Jimi_Neutral: sudo dpkg-reconfigure xserver-xorg; sudo shutdown -r now	09:11
e-frame	hello, my mp3 player is 1GB, but in gparted t shown as unallocated 235.33 MB. how come?	09:11
Martens1984	I have this update that won't install	09:11
Martens1984	linux-image-2.6.28-13-generic_2.6.28-13.44_i386.deb	09:11
nahira	the package for syriac language	09:11
ActionParsnip	e-frame: can you please pastebin the output of: sudo fdisk -l	09:12
Martens1984	Has anyone a sollution?	09:12
ashlessburn	e-frame...do u have other prgrams installed? make sure it is a fat 32/16 format. most likely you will have to part the disc to get full read	09:12
nahira	zortec: what you mean by (cli)	09:12
JimBiggs	ActionParsnip, i tried this already, but it doesn't revert to the previous versions of the packages, does it?	09:12
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ActionParsnip	nahira: my guess is this: http://packages.ubunut.com/intrepid/language-pack-gnome-syr-base	09:13
Martens1984	How can I solve this?	09:13
Martens1984	E: Sub-process /usr/bin/dpkg returned an error code (1)	09:13
ActionParsnip	Jimi_Neutral: tat only defaults the display to failsafe, it does not revert any packages. you will need to uninstall what you installed as well as its deps and then install the older version	09:14
ziroday	Martens1984: we need the errors above that :)	09:14
ActionParsnip	Martens1984: sudo depmaod --configure -a; sudo apt-get -f install	09:14
e-frame	ActionParsnip here: http://pastebin.com/m8c51400	09:14
JimBiggs	ActionParsnip, is there a way i can check what was installed lately, and then find the versions that i should install back?	09:14
ashlessburn	martens1984, After you get that error, try apt-get -f install to force an install of the files that didn't get loaded because of the error. Then try apt-get upgrade again, apt-get -f install back and forth until only the package that has the error is left.	09:14
Martens1984	ziroday: there is no error above	09:14
Martens1984	ashlessburn: doesn't work	09:14
nahira	yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one	09:15
ziroday	Martens1984: can you pastebin the output of sudo dpkg --configure -a please	09:15
e-frame	ashlessburn it is fat32	09:15
ashlessburn	martens1984, tired a reboot to duplicate?	09:15
ActionParsnip	e-frame: it's picked up as a 1Gb: Disk /dev/sdb: 1001 MB, 1001652224 bytes	09:15
ashlessburn	e-frame, yes 32 i believe	09:15
nahira	ActionParsnip: yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one	09:15
napsy_	hello	09:15
ActionParsnip	Jimi_Neutral: you can look in /var/cache/apt unless you have cleaned out the old debs recently	09:15
dsdeiz_	how do you guys make opera fast? it's a resource hog here on my end :(	09:16
ashlessburn	martens1984, what are yuo tryign to install to get that error	09:16
Martens1984	ashlessburn: sudo apt-get upgrade	09:16
ashlessburn	martens1984, really thats is what version of ubunut and what bit	09:16
Martens1984	ashlessburn: ore sudo apt-get install -f "package"	09:16
e-frame	ActionParsnip: yes, i typed "df -h" and it said "/dev/sdb1 953M 4.1M 949M 1% /media/disk"	09:16
ActionParsnip	dsdeiz_: its always been slick here. try: http://www.ghacks.net/2007/03/29/10-tips-to-speed-up-opera-9/	09:16
zortec	losher: I picked up the linux cookbook and how linux works. I'm intrigued by linux	09:16
the_undefined	9.04 hibernated desktop pc but was not able to "wake it up". Now after rebooting I only see a black screen (monitor activity is there). Magic SysRq lets me reboot and stuff but I can't figure out how to get access to the system again : /. Any help would be highly appreciated !	09:17
ActionParsnip	e-frame: there you go them, thats 1Gb of space with 4M used	09:17
e-frame	but in gparted it shown as unallocated 235.33 MB	09:17
ActionParsnip	e-frame: gparted knows nothing.	09:17
dsdeiz_	how do you get the last pid again?	09:17
ActionParsnip	e-frame: i'd go by what the kernel says, not some dumb gui app	09:17
chanux	ActionParsnip, Why sources are version specific? https://launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/automoc	09:17
nexx	I'm on my iPod so it will be a tad slow typing but I recently reinstalled ubuntu and everything was great... but now the GUI won't load... startx shows that no screens are found	09:17
losher	zortec: that's great. One well organized book is worth a hundred disorganized web pages	09:17
ashlessburn	martens1984, go into /var/lib/dpkg/info and delete everything do the same to /var/cache/apt/archives an do the same thing....this can break something so be careful not to delete important files...	09:18
ziroday	!pastebin \| Martens1984	09:18
ubottu	Martens1984: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic	09:18
JimBiggs	ActionParsnip, could it be xserver-xorg-video-intel-2%3a2.7.99.901 ?	09:18
zortec	losher: I admit, ubuntu has great docs but I think at times it's hard to locate the information you need, maybe other users can relate to those experiences	09:18
ActionParsnip	Jimi_Neutral: possibly, look at the created date	09:18
JimBiggs	and how do i reinstall the old version?	09:19
e-frame	ActionParsnip: yes, right. last time it's just /dev/sdb without /dev/sdb1 :D	09:19
zortec	losher: worse case scenario. You search google and ubuntu docs and don't find anything and no other users have had the problem you are.	09:19
ashlessburn	the_undefined, what motherboard do u have	09:19
nexx	any ideas? :)	09:19
nahira	ActionParsnip: yes but on the page it says: "Please note that you should install language-support-syr" and i can't find that one	09:19
JimBiggs	so i should apt-get remove xserver-xorg-video-intel-2%3a2.7.99.901 and apt-get install .... what?	09:19
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ActionParsnip	chanux: each relelase uses different kernel versions for a start. as well as other differences. Thats why your sources file has the release name on the end so that you only install hardy debs	09:19
Innxis	!yahoo	09:19
ubottu	At the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com and see if that helps.	09:19
ActionParsnip	nahira: then try and find it, you may need a ppa	09:19
losher	zortec: I think locating info is a general problem, not specific to Ubuntu. And it predates the internet...	09:19
ActionParsnip	e-frame: i generally dont use gui apps outside of opera, i find them misleading and slow	09:20
DanteX	guys im on xp64 i do tn game i just watch movies and torrent and surf convince me to ditch windows	09:20
ActionParsnip	e-frame: i trust the kernel only	09:20
Innxis	Yahoo Pager Server: cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com is dead	09:20
the_undefined	ashlessburn: Not 100%, it's an old machine I had laying around.	09:20
zortec	losher: true. it also helps if you know how to take advantage of search techniques and keywords	09:20
the_undefined	ashlessburn: my sounds very similar to this: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/211173 , but I think I got a ATI card in there	09:20
zortec	losher: 90% of the time I can find the information I need	09:20
ashlessburn	the_undefined, try a BIOS update to fix the issue alot of boards (ASUS,gigabyte) have issue with wake on sleep	09:20
nexx	on iPod: ubuntu worked : now GUI won't load: startx says no screens found ???	09:20
the_undefined	ashlessburn: how would I update the bios?	09:20
losher	zortec: one of the advantages of running e.g. 8.04 instead of 9.04 is that you're much less likely to run into problems that haven't been solved	09:21
zortec	ubuntu works on an ipod?	09:21
e-frame	ActionParsnip: so what partition editor can be "trusted" ?	09:21
ActionParsnip	e-frame: i like cfdisk	09:21
zortec	e-frame: I used qparted I think it was	09:21
vigo	!offtopic \| DanteX	09:21
ubottu	DanteX: #ubuntu is the Ubuntu support channel, for all Ubuntu-related support questions. Please use #ubuntu-offtopic for other topics. Thanks!	09:21
ActionParsnip	e-frame: just my take, others love gparted	09:21
the_undefined	ashlessburn: The system actually gets beyond the bios, the GRUB loader shows -	09:21
Innxis	The new yahoo pager server is: cs102.msg.mud.yahoo.com	09:21
nexx	no I'm on mine because it's the only way to get on irc	09:21
ActionParsnip	!yahoo	09:21
ubottu	At the moment there are many pidgin users experiencing problems connecting to Yahoo IM, you can try changing your paging server to cs101.msg.mud.yahoo.com and see if that helps.	09:21
zortec	losher: you mean the other way around?	09:21
Myrtti	DanteX: so whats your question?	09:21
e-frame	ActionParsnip & zortec : well i'll try them.	09:21
ashlessburn	the_undefined, that is dependant of the baord...asus has easy flash utility however generic would be go to the board website get the latest bios extract the bin file and boot to floppy (with bin file on floppy) on some boards they support the usb flash drives	09:22
nexx	any help? I don't like typing on this iPod lol	09:22
zortec	I think it would be nice in the chat room to have some kind of points system or at least be able to thank users who give help, not sure if that has come up before	09:22
the_undefined	ashlessburn: ok, hope mine does - the damn box ain't got no floppy	09:22
Innxis	ActionParsnip: That pager doesn't work anymore. They changed it	09:22
the_undefined	ashlessburn: thanks a ton for your help man	09:22
ashlessburn	the_undefined, no problem any questions email me ..om for addy	09:23
ActionParsnip	Innxis: thats all i know dude. I think you may need the newer pidgin, its been sorted in that I think	09:23
ActionParsnip	Innxis: theres one on getdeb but if you come to upgrade, uninstall it first so your system is inline with the repos	09:23
ashlessburn	the_undefined, pm	09:23
nexx	anybody	09:23
nexx	opps	09:23
the_undefined	ashlessburn: will do, hope I can figure something out with your pointers so : )	09:24
ashlessburn	:0	09:24
slestak	godd morning room. ihave a dell optiplex with 9.04 insatlled. i think ive troubleshot this thing well and have a faulty onboard nic.	09:24
Innxis	ActionParsnip: I did post the new one for those who use pidgin 2.5.6<	09:24
zortec	nexx: I might be wrong, but I don't believe there is a lot of support for running ubuntu on an ipod	09:24
ActionParsnip	nexx: boot to recovery mode and select fix grapics, you will then get a gui	09:24
ashlessburn	is there a irc admin?	09:24
ActionParsnip	ashlessburn: there are ops	09:24
zortec	ashlessburn: there are irc ops	09:24
losher	zortec: do I? It's getting late...	09:24
nexx	I'm not running ubuntu on an iPod	09:24
nexx	it is on my computer	09:25
zortec	losher: less problems if you run 9.04 instead of 8.04, you said 8.04 instead of 9.04	09:25
ActionParsnip	nexx: i know, you need to boot to recovery mode and select fix graphics	09:25
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nexx	I'm on irc from my iPod so it is hard to type	09:25
ActionParsnip	nexx: you will then get failsafe settings, also uninstall any drivers you recently installed so you can have another crack	09:25
nexx	alright how do I boot to recovery?	09:25
slestak	it works, just very slow. ive got dell coming tomorrow to relace mobo. my biggest concern is ive overlooked something.	09:26
ActionParsnip	nexx: esc when grub shows up, select recovery mode	09:26
chanux	ActionParsnip, I can't find any automoc source binary for Hardy. Any option other than dist-upgrade?	09:26
Stanley_	How do I take advantage of some of the cool graphics in 9.04?	09:26
Blended1	is ubunto dell's?	09:26
ActionParsnip	nexx: if you stopped taling about how typing on a sucky ipod sucks then you'd get sorted faster	09:26
rabelais	slestak: did you check to see what lspci reports? and then what ifconfig reports?	09:26
zortec	Stanley_: You need to turn on compiz.	09:26
losher	zortec: no. 8.04 has had bugfixes applied to it for ages, so it's very stable. 9.04 on the other hand, is new, and hence much more likely to have bugs in it...	09:26
ActionParsnip	chanux: find an alternative or compile	09:26
Stanley_	zortec: How do I do that?	09:26
zortec	Stanley_: What wdm are you running?	09:27
Blended1	fun tell someone how to do there first compile	09:27
losher	zortec: with software, in general, the newer it is, the buggier it is...	09:27
Stanley_	zortec: wdm?	09:27
slestak	it has broadcom gigabit nic, which i know has had a worse exp than others for drivers	09:27
Stanley_	zortec: Gnome	09:27
chanux	ActionParsnip, I'm sorry I do not know how to find an alternative. Help me if possible :)	09:27
zortec	Stanley_: Sorry, window manager... I forget not everyone is up with the acronyms	09:27
JimBiggs	ActionParsnip, how do i know which version of the xserver-xorg-video-intel-2 package i need to install once i've uninstalled the current one?	09:27
Stanley_	zortec: I made the assumption thats what you meant, but yea Gnome	09:27
zortec	losher: I had problems with gnome-do so I removed it and just am using ALT+F2	09:27
chanux	ActionParsnip, Google always get me to that launchpad thing when I look for automoc :(	09:28
i_am_an_indian_	can i make ubuntu look like vista?	09:28
i_am_an_indian_	and where can i find themes for ubuntu?	09:28
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losher	zortec: lots of people here had problems with 9.04 that didn't exist in 8.04	09:28
Spike1506	!art	09:28
rabelais	i_am_an_indian_: google is your friend	09:28
ubottu	Find your themes at: http://www.gnome-look.org - http://art.gnome.org - http://www.kde-look.org - http://kubuntu-art.org - http://themes.freshmeat.net/browse/58/ - http://www.guistyles.com - https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Artwork/ - Also see !changethemes and https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy	09:28
zortec	Stanley_: It would be under visual effects	09:28
slestak	rabelais: i get an ip with ifconfig, and no errors are reported. i just get 17k/sec on local lan copy, where with same cable to dell netbook (linux mint) gets 10M/s	09:29
i_am_an_indian_	!changethemes	09:29
ubottu	To change gnome themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuEyeCandy. Kubuntu themes: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CustomizeKubuntu. Xubuntu users should /msg ubottu xfce-themes	09:29
rabelais	slestak: what module is loaded for the nic?	09:29
chanux	i_am_an_indian_, gnome-look.org ?	09:29
zortec	Stanley_: Right click on the desktop and go to Change desktop background, make sure that you have your 3d drivers installed	09:29
slestak	im sorry,i dont have access right now	09:29
Husaini	hi	09:29
ActionParsnip	chanux: try a different search engine, or go to the developers site for source	09:29
zortec	losher: I used 7.10 and then 9.04 now	09:30
Stanley_	zortec: I get the error "The Composite Extension is not available"	09:30
slestak	rabelais: let mesee if i have ssh on it yet, just refreshed install to get 64bit on there	09:30
zortec	Stanley_: Did you install compiz?	09:30
Blended1	is e17 AVAILABLE ON UIBUNTU?	09:30
rabelais	slestak: do you remember seeing a large number of ethernet errors when checking ifconfig/	09:31
losher	zortec: I used 7.10 then 9.04 then 8.04	09:31
zortec	Stanley_: What video card do you have?	09:31
Stanley_	zortec: I _just_ installed "simple-ccsm" but thats it	09:31
vigo	chanux: Is that Kdenlive?	09:31
zortec	losher: ah, so you downgraded... that is interesting	09:31
Stanley_	zortec: I have a Nvidia GTX-260 and an Nvidia 9500GT	09:31
slestak	rabelais: i dont recall seeing any, buti should check dmesg or daemon.log maybe	09:31
Stanley_	zortec: i have 4 monitors, only using 3 though	09:31
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zortec	Stanley_: Make sure that you install the restricted nvidia drivers	09:31
jasonmchristos	hello, using gtk recordmydesktop to record the audio skips in the output file	09:32
zortec	Stanley_: They should have been available in your updates	09:32
jasonmchristos	please help	09:32
rabelais	slestak: it won't show up there, it'll be in ifconfig, next to sent, received, and errors	09:32
Stanley_	zortec: Yea the drivers are insstalled	09:32
slestak	rabelais: u going to be around a bit? it is 4:30 am right now, but i will be in office in a few hours	09:32
losher	zortec: I got 9.04 working, but lots of little things weren't quite right, and there was nothing in 9.04 I needed, so I downgraded.	09:32
chanux	vigo, Qt plexydesk	09:33
rabelais	slestak: not likely, I'm going to sleep soon	09:33
zortec	Stanley_: You don't have an ATI chipset?	09:33
vigo	chanux: Ok, still looking.	09:33
Stanley_	Zortec: No, I have an nvidia chipset, 780i	09:33
rabelais	slestak: just some tip offs, broadcom chips have been misdetected in the past...so you might be using the wrong driver even if you do get an IP	09:34
Kartagis	does /etc/lsb-release ever change?	09:34
zortec	Stanley_: Ok install xgl with gnome	09:34
Stanley_	zortec: is that a command line install, add/remove programs or packetmanager ?	09:34
slestak	rabelais: think you may have a point. im going to troubleshoot this some more	09:34
zortec	Stanley_: I didn't have to install it, but let me get you the link to follow	09:35
zortec	Stanley_:	09:35
zortec	http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.p...ght=xgl+feisty	09:35
bimadelta	hello all	09:35
vigo	chanux: Sure looks like the Kdenlive thing, here is one page. http://ubuntuforums.org/search.php?searchid=60886472 and here is another: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/KdenliveSVN	09:35
Stanley_	zortec: thats not opening up a forum for me, just the community page	09:36
chanux	vigo, Thanks loads	09:36
zortec	Stanley_: sudo apt-get install server-xgl	09:36
bimadelta	hi chanux can you help me please	09:36
zortec	Stanley_: That should enable desktop effects	09:36
Stanley_	zortec: couldn't find package	09:37
bimadelta	hi chanux can you help me please	09:37
slestak	rabelais: oh well, imup and im the stupid one who didnt get openssh and dns pointer worked outbefreo leqving so i deserve to drive in :)	09:37
Kartagis	does /etc/lsb-release ever get overwritten?	09:38
jasonmchristos	hello, using gtk recordmydesktop to record the audio skips in the output file please help	09:38
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jasonmchristos	is there an alternative program?	09:38
Stanley_	zortec: wrong package name ?	09:39
slestak	rabelais: thx for help	09:39
bimadelta	help me who know how to remastering ubuntu live cd	09:39
lstarnes	Kartagis: it usually changes between releases	09:39
zortec	Stanley_: Did you install envy?	09:39
Stanley_	zortec: probably not.	09:39
jasonmchristos	Broken pipe: Overrun occurred.	09:40
papul	how can i install ubuntu from scratch	09:40
Stanley_	zortec: this is a fresh install i did tonight so	09:40
papul	only the packages that i need?	09:40
zortec	Stanley_: Ok, let's check your config file	09:40
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Kartagis	lstarnes, some guy here says it changes at linux mint. is that possible?	09:40
zortec	Stanley_: gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf	09:40
vigo	papul: Use the Minimal Install, or Unet thing.	09:40
zortec	Stanley_: from the cli	09:41
papul	vigo: how?	09:41
lstarnes	Kartagis: it can. linux mint is not ubuntu but it is based on ubuntu	09:41
zortec	is linux mint really based on ubuntu?	09:41
vigo	papul: Have you looked at the Minimal Install?	09:41
lstarnes	zortec: yes	09:41
Stanley_	zortec: what am I lookinf ror in this file ?	09:41
zortec	I thought they were two different versions	09:41
vigo	!minimal	09:41
ubottu	The Minimal CD image is very small in size, and it downloads most packages from the Internet during installation, allowing you to select only those you want (the installer is like the one on the !Alternate CD). See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Installation/MinimalCD	09:41
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zortec	Stanley_: What does the composite line read?	09:42
Stanley_	zortec: composite line?	09:42
papul	zortec: let him use pastebin	09:42
zortec	Stanley_: copy and paste the contents of your xorg.conf file	09:42
Stanley_	http://pastebin.com/d7de4c4c8	09:43
zortec	Stanley_: Is that the full file?	09:43
Stanley_	zortec: yes	09:44
zortec	Stanley_: We are trying to find a line for composite	09:44
faldo	hi	09:45
Stanley_	zortec: and I'm assuming it's not there?	09:45
Dday	How do i instal a tar.gz program?	09:45
halberd	unzip with tar -xzf somefile.tar.gz	09:45
zortec	Stanley_: not in the file you c&p	09:46
lstarnes	Dday: untar it then read the instructions contained in the INSTALL or README files	09:46
Dday	How i untar it?	09:46
Stanley_	zortec: thats the whole file when i typed "gksudo gedit /etc/X11/xorg.conf"	09:46
lstarnes	Dday: tar xzf file.tar.gz	09:46
Dday	Is there a - or not?	09:46
lstarnes	Dday: it doesn't matter	09:47
jasonmchristos	SOLVED - see http://p-s.co.nz/wordpress/?p=490. I had to set Advanced>Sound>device from DEFAULT to default (no kidding!). A frequency of 48000 worked for me. I need an amazed, head-shaking emoticon to capture how I felt when that worked.	09:47
lstarnes	Dday: you can use the - but tar doesn't need irt	09:47
lstarnes	*it	09:47
jasonmchristos	its a matter of caps lock	09:47
jasonmchristos	silly	09:47
zortec	Stanley_: You said Nvidia 9600?	09:47
Stanley_	zortec: no, a nvidia gtx-260 AND a nvidia 9500GT	09:48
zortec	Stanley_: Can you run lspci -l and copy and paste the results?	09:48
Stanley_	zortec: http://pastebin.com/d7de4c4c8	09:49
Stanley_	whoops	09:49
Stanley_	zortec: brad@brad-desktop:~$ lspci -l	09:49
Stanley_	lspci: invalid option -- 'l'	09:49
Spike1506	Stanley_, sudo lspci -l	09:50
Spike1506	nvm me Stanley_	09:50
zortec	Stanley_: just do lspci	09:51
zortec	Stanley_: copy and paste that	09:51
znh	whenever a message popups I have the PC speaker instead of a music file, anyone?	09:51
Stanley_	zortec: http://pastebin.com/d32b22c69	09:51
zortec	Stanley_: Are you sure you have already installed all the nvidia drivers?	09:52
zortec	Stanley_: Also at the cli type glxgears and wait about 5 secs, let me know what kind of fps you get	09:52
zortec	Stanley_: Let me know if I'm going too fast	09:53
Stanley_	zortec: Hardware Driver says I'm using NVIDIA accelerated graphics driver (version 180) [recommended] and it's currently activated and in use	09:53
faldo	znh what given config files did you change exactly?	09:53
Stanley_	zortec: also, i go into nvidia-settings to setup my screens	09:53
znh	faldo, none. default Ubuntu Jaunty installation	09:53
znh	faldo, also when I hit backspace in an empty textbox I hear the music that goes over headphones through the PC speaker	09:54
Stanley_	zortec: I did do "nvidia-xconfig" which modifies the xconfig.conf to use the nvidia x driver	09:54
znh	faldo, kinda fun.. but shouldn't be :P	09:54
grawity	O_o	09:54
faldo	I can't tell so if you changed anything	09:54
zortec	Stanley_: You should be getting high frame rates if your driver is working when you run glxgears	09:54
znh	wish I did	09:54
ne2k__	I am starting to get EXTREMELY AGGRAVATED with ubuntu. Firefox keeps hanging up at absolutely unacceptably frequent intervals. I go to click on a link or search for something and the application turns grey for ten seconds and then comes back. WHY IS THIS HAPPENING?!	09:55
zortec	ne2k__: It just randomly hangs?	09:55
zortec	ne2k__: Did you try removing all your addons or doing a fresh install?	09:55
grawity	ne2k__: Do you have any Firefox addons? Does this happen with, for example, Epiphany-browser?	09:55
zortec	grawity: I will let you go ahead and help him :)	09:56
Stanley_	zortec: http://pastebin.com/d56af5e1	09:56
ne2k__	when this was happening a few weeks ago, I managed to track down the problem to "tracker-indexer" using all the processor time. it does appear to be using rather a lot again	09:56
zortec	Stanley_: Ok confirmed that the driver is working	09:56
faldo	zhn some people usally can't stand what they're given and need to tweak datas given by the system, it's terrible	09:56
ne2k__	zortec: no, I did not try removing all my add-ons and doing a fresh install	09:57
zortec	Stanley_: Press ALT+F2 and type compiz --replace and let me know what happens	09:57
denny	how would I go about trying to get something on the 'hundred papercuts' list?	09:57
Stanley_	zortec: my windows flashed a bit	09:57
zortec	Stanley_: Is compiz working now?	09:58
zortec	denny: What's the hundred papercuts list?	09:58
Stanley_	zortec: how can i tell? if i go into visual effects and go to "extra" it still gives me the error "The composite extension is not available"	09:58
zortec	Stanley_: Minimize windows or close windows and you should see desktop effects if they are working	09:59
Ritz2007	any female like to chat with me	09:59
jrib	Ritz2007: this isn't that kind of channel	09:59
Stanley_	zortec: nope	09:59
Ritz2007	cant get you dear	09:59
zortec	Stanley_: We will keep working at it	09:59
jrib	Ritz2007: this channel is for ubuntu support only, not other stuff	10:00
denny	zortec: a list of UI annoyances that should be fixed before 9.10	10:01
denny	I'd like to add 'windows don't restore to their last position' to it	10:02
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jrib	denny: that's up to the application itself to implement	10:02
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denny	jrib: you're missing my point	10:02
denny	and it shouldn't be, anyway	10:02
zortec	Stanley_: Try updating your nvidia drivers using synpatic	10:02
zortec	Stanley_: err, synaptic	10:03
denny	Don't Repeat Yourself - the window manager should handle window placement, giving the app a chance to override if it wants to	10:03
denny	each app shouldn't have to implement position-memory separately, that's pretty stupid	10:03
Stanley_	zortec: how do i go about that?	10:04
zortec	Stanley_: You said this was a new install, did you do anything at the cli with your nvidia drivers?	10:05
Stanley_	zortec: cli being terminal?	10:06
zortec	Stanley_: yeah, what drivers do you have installed, can you go in synaptic and let me know?	10:06
zortec	Stanley_: is it the ubuntu-restricted or linux-restricted drivers?	10:06
BigMike	how can I tell what version of flashplayer I have?	10:07
zortec	Stanley_: For your particular video card, you might have to install the drivers from the official nvidia site	10:07
Stanley_	zortec: Could it be an issue with me running two monitors on my gtx-260 and one monitor on my 9500GT?	10:08
laclasse	BigMike, type 'about:plugins' in your firefox url bar	10:08
BigMike	ok	10:08
zortec	BigMike: Just a guess, but probably there is a --version switch you can use from the cli	10:08
BigMike	ty	10:08
zortec	Stanley_: It could be an issue. Have you tested it with just one monitor?	10:08
Stanley_	zortec: Nope.	10:09
Stanley_	zortec: I think i'm using nvidia-glx-180	10:09
BigMike	ok guess there is a flash update now	10:09
Blended1	does ubuntu have that suare box thing for the desktops	10:09
Blended1	square	10:10
e-frame	zortec & ashlessburn , this is my sdb partition after i re-format my mp3 under win*** http://e-frame.pastebin.com/m7e5ee1a4	10:10
zortec	Stanley_: There is a bug related to that driver package	10:10
zortec	Stanley_: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nvidia-graphics-drivers-180/+bug/231697/+viewstatus	10:11
zortec	Stanley_: See if that is the problem you are having.	10:11
ashlessburn	e-frame. what did u do	10:11
ashlessburn	step by step	10:11
Stanley_	zortec: yea it appears to be	10:11
Stanley_	zortec: thats the same error i get	10:11
zortec	Stanley_: Try the workaround which is to download the drivers from the nvidia site	10:12
zortec	Stanley_: Right now there doesn't seem to be a solution to that bug	10:13
zortec	Stanley_: But you can try downloading the drivers from nvidia and installing them	10:13
Stanley_	zortec: I was trying to install driver sfrom their site but nobody could tell me how to disable X	10:13
Stanley_	zortec: which is needed to install the drivers	10:13
e-frame	ashlessburn: i run cfdisk, delete all partition, then create one. in linux fstype. then i go to win** box and reformat it to fat32. everything goes ok, the mp3 player runs well, then i plugged it in my ubuntu, it's automounted and shown as 1GB drive, but when i check with fdisk, it shown as in the link. :D	10:14
e-frame	but it works XD	10:14
Blended1	how easyis ubuntu to set upsprint wireless modems ...?	10:14
zortec	Stanley_: You don't want to disable X, but you can restart X	10:14
Stanley_	zortec: it tells me x needs to be disabled to install	10:15
anita	hi to all	10:15
Blended1	baker	10:15
zortec	Stanley_: Try this, go to System->Administration->Services	10:16
slestak	rabelais:i am in office now, lspci == Broadcom BCM5754	10:16
zortec	Stanley_: From there you can disable the graphical login manager	10:16
Stanley_	zortec: how do i turn it bak on?	10:17
zortec	Stanley_: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults, startx	10:17
slestak	rabelais: installing pastebinit real quick	10:17
bullgard4	[GNOME] After dist-upgrade to Uuntu 9.04 the arrow keys and the 'Alt Gr' key function wrongly. They do work correctly in the virtual consoles. How to fix this?	10:17
zortec	Stanley_: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove to disable	10:17
Stanley_	zortec: and how to enable?	10:18
zortec	Stanley_: sudo update-rc.d -f gdm defaults, startx	10:18
ashlessburn	e-frame, how you tried a reboot without the usb flash in	10:19
slestak	rabelais: http://pastebin.com/f30ae14e6	10:21
slestak	there is ifconfig, and it does show errors, that is with just 5 minutes use on the nic.	10:21
Stanley_	zortec: i did the sudo update-rc.d -f gdm remove and logged out and looged back in and i'm still in X	10:21
vigo	Stanley_: https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/hardware/C/restricted-manager.html	10:22
spider48014	hi	10:22
faldo	hi	10:23
Husaini	!build-essential	10:23
ubottu	Compiling software from source? Read the tips at https://help.ubuntu.com/community/CompilingSoftware (But remember to search for pre-built !packages first)	10:23
zortec	Stanley_: That is why I asked if you enabled the restricted drivers	10:23
zortec	Stanley_: following what vigo suggested	10:23
bimadelta	see ya!!!	10:25
e-frame	ashlessburn: i din't do any reboot. there is another machine with win** os	10:26
ashlessburn	e-frame, you have a simple problem. seems the soultion woul dhave been simple as well. jsut for testing have you tried another falsh drive?	10:27
sara_	AAAAAA	10:29
e-frame	ashlessburn: currently this is the only flash drive right now :D well i'm gonna wipe it, since there is no important data. any good suggestion about re-creating partition using the whole space on disk?	10:29
sara_	FACKA MEN	10:29
ashlessburn	e-frame, use a boot in program and make sure that it is fat 32/16 make sure ur part is 3 nto 2 and u should be good to go	10:30
sara_	YEA MEN	10:30
sara_	FACKA	10:30
sara_	YEA MEM	10:30
sara_	FACKAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA	10:30
sara_	YEA MEN	10:31
ashlessburn	e-frame, make sure there is no propriety software on the drive...some drives come with security software and boot log ins, u can wipe them each drive is diffrent how too thoguh	10:31
faldo	hi Odo	10:31
Odo	faldo, hi	10:31
e-frame	ashlessburn: yea, after each format, i find it restores it's system files.	10:32
faldo	I'm psychic mode pluggin (for pidgin) ;)	10:32
faldo	sorry Odo was thinking of this pluggin ;)	10:33
ashlessburn	hmmm	10:33
BigMike	yahoo work on pidgin for you?	10:33
Odo	Failrar, np	10:33
Odo	faldo, np	10:33
ashlessburn	e-frame, you might want to contact the drive manf to see if there is a wipe or 9f-disk) program for the drive ....was it a high end drive?	10:33
faldo	odo thanks	10:33
Spike1506	BigMike, there where problems with yahoo and pidgin, there is a new release where the issue has been fixed	10:34
e-frame	ashlessburn: no, just ordinary mp3 player made by polytron	10:34
Spike1506	BigMike, you can download it via the pidgin website or wait till its avaible in ubuntu repos	10:34
BigMike	ok i have a code that works if anyone wants it for older versions	10:34
erUSUL	Spike1506: BigMike there is a ppa and it is in getdeb too	10:34
e-frame	ashlessburn: at first i just want to make it a bootable flash drive to run portable OS	10:35
erUSUL	!ppa	10:35
ubottu	With Launchpad's Personal Package Archives (PPA), you can build and publish binary Ubuntu packages for multiple architectures simply by uploading an Ubuntu source package to Launchpad. See https://help.launchpad.net/PPAQuickStart.	10:35
BigMike	ok well I fixed mine by adding to the hosts file	10:35
pc	salut	10:35
zortec	Did Stanley ever come back?	10:37
BigMike	ubuntu is pretty stable for sure	10:37
zortec	Stanley_: I was just checking if you were back	10:37
vigo	zortec: Not yet	10:37
halldor89	hi, I'm running hardy heron and I need newer version of pygobject than is in the repository, what options do I have (other than upgrade my ubuntu installation)?	10:37
Stanley_	So I went back to the 173 restricted driver and my video card wasn't supported so X wouldnt' start. so while I had no X i installed the 185 drivers which wouldnt' work either so I loaded into "low graphics mode" and re-enabled the 180 drier sfrom the restricted menu and i'm back and running again	10:38
zortec	halldor89: You would have to search the net for the latest package	10:38
iceroot	halldor89: backports or installing a new version by hand	10:38
zortec	halldor89: You could try enabling more repositories if you haven't done so	10:38
iceroot	!backport \| halldor89	10:38
ubottu	halldor89: If new updated Ubuntu packages are built for an application, then they may go into Ubuntu Backports. See https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuBackports - See also !packaging	10:38
halldor89	iceroot: thanks a lot, that's probably what I'm looking for	10:39
Stanley_	zortec: thanks :) see above!	10:39
ashlessburn	well thats easy	10:40
zortec	Stanley_: I'm not sure what you want me to see above	10:40
Stanley_	So I went back to the 173 restricted driver and my video card wasn't supported so X wouldnt' start. so while I had no X i installed the 185 drivers which wouldnt' work either so I loaded into "low graphics mode" and re-enabled the 180 drier sfrom the restricted menu and i'm back and running ag	10:40
iceroot	halldor89: also have a look at apt-pinning because if you enable backports ALL packages are upgraded	10:40
ashlessburn	e-frame, thats easy unetbootin	10:40
iceroot	!apt-pinning \| halldor89	10:41
ubottu	Sorry, I don't know anything about apt-pinning	10:41
iceroot	hm	10:41
markit	hi, I've a minimal installation of 8.04. dpkg-reconfiture locales does nothing, and directory /var/lib/locales/supported.d/ is empty. "locales" package is installed, what else do I miss?	10:41
markit	I just want to change to it_IT-UTF8	10:41
Stanley_	zortec: just to my explanation of what happened	10:41
zortec	Stanley_: Ok I see it now, let me read	10:41
halldor89	iceroot: which problems can that cause (everything being upgraded)?	10:41
zortec	Stanley_: Great, so you have compiz working with dual monitors?	10:42
e-frame	ashlessburn: yea, i've tried unetbootin. thx	10:42
Stanley_	Well, no, I'm back to the 180 drivers I had originally	10:42
Stanley_	zortec: so nothings really changed	10:42
iceroot	halldor89: for e.g. if firefox 3.1 is in backports you will get it if you have installed firefox 3.0	10:42
iceroot	halldor89: so apt-pinning can hold back the other packages	10:43
halldor89	iceroot: thx, I'll look into it	10:43
Jimi_Neutral	i have a file that im trying to get off a hdd and i keep getting an I/O error so someone told me to try and snapshot the image and put it on another drive and then pull it off the new drive that works....he told me to install linux and do something with lvm but then after that i had to go home after work, i really need to get this file off this hdd, can anyone help?	10:43
zortec	Stanley_: so you still have no compiz?	10:43
iceroot	halldor89: also you can just upgrade one package, enable backports then sudo apt-get update and then sudo apt-get install pprogam-you-want-upgrade	10:43
Stanley_	zortec: correct, also still on the driver version that has the bug	10:43
slestak	can anyone tell me the version of the tg3 driver that is included with jaunty? I have downloaded 3.92 from broadcom,but dont want to build it if ubuntu already has this version	10:43
klos	hello :)	10:43
iceroot	markit: sudo dpkg-reconfigure locales	10:44
zortec	Stanley_: Ok what were your video cards again?	10:44
Usama	hello, my friend is having problem installing from dvd. he says the partionar doesn't see his disk but it can see it by another ways like fdisk	10:44
klos	anyone knows in which beta the new design is going to be implemented?	10:44
markit	iceroot: does NOTHING, just returns to prompt. I'm trying locale-gen now	10:44
Stanley_	zortex: Nvidia GTX-260 and Nvidia 9500GT	10:44
zortec	Stanley_: It's a confirmed bug in ubuntu about the dual video cards with compiz, but did you try just one monitor to see if that works?	10:45
ashlessburn	e-frame. do u ahve a windows computer	10:46
e-frame	ashlessburn: no. it's on my friend's lapto	10:47
BenTM	hi @ all how can i disable mod_perl modul in apache? i try to install an twiki an have to disable mod_perl	10:47
e-frame	ashlessburn: no. it's on my friend's laptop	10:47
ashlessburn	e-frame, i mean do u have acces to a windws machince	10:47
e-frame	ashlessburn: yes	10:47
iceroot	BenTM: a2dismod mod_perl then restart apache	10:48
iceroot	BenTM: to enable a mod a2enmod	10:48
BenTM	ok thx ^^	10:48
slestak	can anyone tell me the version of the tg3 driver that is included with jaunty? I have downloaded 3.92 from broadcom,but dont want to build it if ubuntu already has this version	10:49
BenTM	and a overview about running mods?	10:49
ashlessburn	e-frame, try http://infrarecorder.org/	10:49
SAMER_	hello pls any one can help i want to connect to internet form ubuntu 9.04 using band luxe modem	10:50
e-frame	ashlessburn: what's that? why did you suggest that?	10:50
iceroot	BenTM: ls /etc/apache2/mods-enabled/	10:50
bob_rock	hi everyone. how to change resolution permanently. I use driver from Nvidia (X.org 96' driver) and my VGA is Geforce2 MX400.	10:51
ashlessburn	its what i had to sue to get my cd/dvd to work major programs didnt work	10:51
Matisse	hi	10:51
Matisse	how do I find out, if my new sata hd is recognized? it has no filesystem on it	10:51
Weed37__	hi guys cant seem to get my graphics effects working have tried to enable them in apperance but says canott enable effects ? any ideas	10:51
CaMason	it seems my wireless device on my eee can't connect since the recent kernel update. Any thoughts on where I can look?	10:52
BenTM	thx	10:52
slestak	Matisse: look in dmesg output for a line that contains "sd"	10:52
CaMason	kernel is 2.6.28-13	10:52
bob_rock	help me please!	10:52
Weed37__	hi guys cant seem to get my graphics effects working have tried to enable them in apperance but says canott enable effects ? any ideas	10:52
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ashlessburn	bob_rock, run to nvidia site see if they have a driver for the card for linux	10:53
Darael	Weed37__: What graphics card/chipset do you have?	10:53
Weed37__	idk m8	10:53
Matisse	slestak, thx, seems to be there	10:53
Jimi_Neutral	anyone able to help me through a dd process?	10:53
Weed37__	Darael, how do i find it new to ubuntu	10:53
Darael	Weed37__: if you have an Nvidia or ATI graphics card you'll need to enable the drivers	10:54
markit	I've tried "sudo loadkeys it" but I get "Couldnt get a file descriptor referring to the console". with dpkg-reconfigure console-data I've choose italian keyboard but still I can't get accented or other italian-specific keys	10:54
bob_rock	ashlessburn: I use Ubuntu Jaunty. my problem is just changin resolution permanent.	10:54
Weed37__	Nvidia and i have tried that	10:54
Darael	Weed37__: if you go to system->administration->hardware drivers it'll show you if there are any available	10:54
Weed37__	their is 3 options their	10:54
Weed37__	but can only choose 1	10:55
Darael	Weed37__: if there's one with a [recommended] tag, I'd use that	10:55
Weed37__	yeah i picked that	10:55
slestak	interesting, the tg3.c file at apt.wikimedia.org is a newer rev that the tg3 from broadcom	10:55
Weed37__	it says downloading then nothing happens	10:55
bob_rock	ashlessburn: please give me the right code to change resolution in /etc/X11/xorg.conf	10:55
Darael	Weed37__: have you rebooted since installing the drivers?	10:55
Weed37__	hmmm no	10:56
Weed37__	i will try	10:56
bob_rock	please give me the right code to change resolution permanently in /etc/X11/xorg.conf	10:56
ashlessburn	bob_rock without restriceted or manual it looks like u cannot fro that card	10:56
Weed37__	ty Darael	10:56
bob_rock	ashlessburn: what do u mean?	10:56
ashlessburn	bob_rock, what is ur card again	10:57
bob_rock	ashlessburn: i am just able to change resolution for login screen but not the Desktop	10:57
bob_rock	ashlessburn: Geforce2 MX400	10:58
zortec	bob_rock: That is an old card... you need the restricted drivers to use it	10:58
bob_rock	zortec: Tell me more how to do that!	10:58
ashlessburn	bob_rock, please read article http://www.ubuntux.org/ubuntu-8-04-screen-resolution-limited-with-nvidia-geforce2-mx-400	10:59
ashlessburn	bob_rock, read problem solved please	10:59
zortec	!ubottu restricted \| bob_rock	10:59
ubottu	Error: I am only a bot, please don't think I'm intelligent :)	10:59
bob_rock	ashlessburn: i'll read it, wait for my confession.	11:00
ashlessburn	will do	11:00
toan	help me with apache2	11:01
toan	when i type	11:01
f7ee	How does that OBEJX Server For Mobile Phones calleed?	11:01
toan	/etc/init.d/apache2 restar	11:01
toan	have error	11:01
f7ee	I need to copy some multimedia to my mobile phone via bluetooth	11:01
toan	* Restarting web server apache2 (98)Address already in use: make_sock: could not bind to address 127.0.0.1:80	11:02
toan	no listening sockets available, shutting down	11:02
toan	Unable to open logs	11:02
toan	[fail]	11:02
FloodBot1	toan: Please don't flood, use http://paste.ubuntu.com to paste, don't use Enter as punctuation.	11:02
toan	please help me!	11:02
vigo	!pastebin \| toan	11:02
ubottu	toan: pastebin is a service to post multiple-lined texts so you don't flood the channel. The Ubuntu pastebin is at http://paste.ubuntu.com \| To post !screenshots use http://imagebin.org/index.php?page=add \| Make sure you give us the URL for your paste - see also the channel topic	11:02
Weed37_	Darael, still getting same issue	11:02
f7ee	OBEX Server	11:02
Darael	Weed37_: hmm...	11:02
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Darael	Weed37_: usually the only reason it would fail to install the drivers is if Synaptic was open	11:03
Weed37_	nope that is closed	11:03
Darael	Weed37_: so you can't activate the restricted drivers? how odd.	11:04
Weed37_	restricted drivers ?	11:04
vigo	bob_rock: From the forums that card looks unsupported, maybe 'legacy' drivers work with it, but I do not know: http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=480991	11:05
bob_rock	vigo: I'll read it.	11:05
zortec	bob_rock: Didn't you say you were going to read the other article?	11:06
Weed37_	restricted drivers ? Darael	11:06
bob_rock	wait i'll read them all	11:06
zortec	Weed37_: Restricted drivers in synaptic	11:07
Darael	Weed37_: the drivers for nivdia cards (well, most of them) that provide 3d acceleration and stuff like that are closed-source, so we call them "restricted"	11:07
zortec	how do we get him the doc on restricted drivers?	11:07
vigo	!restricted	11:07
ubottu	For multimedia issues, this page has useful information: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/RestrictedFormats - See also https://help.ubuntu.com/9.04/musicvideophotos/C/video.html - But please use free formats if you can: https://help.ubuntu.com/community/FreeFormats