[00:13] <hggdh> bdmurray, I will also move on with the pidgin piece
[00:13] <bdmurray> hggdh: great, thanks for doing that.  I didn't want your work to be forgotten if yo uwill
[00:15] <hggdh> bdmurray, np
[01:53] <micahg1> ping hggdh
[01:54] <micahg> or ping bdmurray
[01:55]  * BUGabundo likes the 'or'
[02:17] <hggdh> micahg, pong
[02:17] <micahg> hi
[02:17] <micahg> got some weird one
[02:17] <micahg> bug 387822
[02:17] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 387822 in firefox-3.0 "Clicking on Firefox address bar doesn't select all text" [Undecided,New] https://launchpad.net/bugs/387822
[02:17] <micahg> here's what I wrote
[02:17] <micahg> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/202496/
[02:18] <micahg> wasn't sure if it was overboard
[02:18] <hggdh> looking at it now
[02:19] <BUGabundo> looks okay
[02:19] <BUGabundo> a bit too techy
[02:19] <hggdh> its OK, micahg
[02:19] <micahg> even my line about windows on linux ?:)
[02:20] <hggdh> but this can be documented for these users
[02:20] <hggdh> yes
[02:20] <micahg> what?
[02:21] <micahg> the reporter mentioned the workaround
[02:22] <hggdh> yes, if users want
[02:22] <hggdh> it
[02:22] <hggdh> but -- as far as I can see -- good work
[02:24] <micahg> Where should it be documented?
[02:25] <hggdh> micahg, the point I was trying to make (and, at the same time, looking for my dogs) is that this could be made clearer somewhere
[02:25] <hggdh> now, *where*... beats me
[02:25] <micahg> hggdh: already in teh manual/tips http://support.mozilla.com/en-US/kb/Browsing+basics?style_mode=inproduct#Navigating_to_another_page
[02:26] <hggdh> heh. I agree. Already where it should be :-)
[02:58]  * BUGabundo $ bed ; echo command not found. please try apt-get install sleepdisorder 
[03:18] <e-jat> bug 391212
[03:18] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 391212 in configglue "Error installing python-configglue v. 0.2dev-0ubuntu1 on Python 2.4" [Undecided,In progress] https://launchpad.net/bugs/391212
[06:40] <dholbach> good morning
[07:23] <thekorn> good morning
[09:05] <MTecknology> mvo: you around?
[09:07] <MTecknology> mvo: You may want to look at a bug. It probably deserves Invalid. The reporter won't be giving you any further data that you can use and what they did give youe didn't help. https://bugs.edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/update-manager/+bug/354008
[09:07] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 354008 in update-manager "update manager did not complete; system was trashed between 8.10 and 9.04" [Undecided,Incomplete]
[09:08] <mvo> MTecknology: thanks, I have a look
[09:08] <maxb_> Hi, the ABI 10 kernel seems to have changed the name with which my synaptics touchpad is reported, causing hal to not know that it's a touchpad. Bug on hal, or bug on linux for spurious name change? :-)
[09:09] <mvo> MTecknology: yeah, without the logs the report is not useful unfortunatly
[09:09] <MTecknology> mvo: I saw you take over it and ignored it from there, but I'm going through any bugs in my list and trying to clean them out.
[09:10] <mvo> MTecknology: feel free to close it now, I'm happy to help with further questions on other reports
[09:14] <MTecknology> all done
[09:15] <mvo> thanks!
[09:15] <MTecknology> mvo: 242 active bugs....
[09:15] <MTecknology> ouch
[09:15] <mvo> yeah :(
[09:15] <MTecknology> what bugs do you work on primarily?
[09:15] <mvo> I need to trim down this list
[09:16] <mvo> mostly around update-manager/apt/synaptic
[09:19] <dupondje> https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/busybox/+bug/278434
[09:19] <ubot4> Launchpad bug 278434 in busybox "Busy Box 1.10.2 error while installing Ibex beta version" [Undecided,New]
[09:19] <dupondje> what do I need to do with this kind of bugs ?
[09:20] <dupondje> set to Invalid or ? cause Ibex Beta ... no need to keep the bug there imo ?
[09:30] <maxb> Which package should get "KMS breaks usplash" bugs?
[09:30] <maxb> and ditto "KMS breaks desktop brighness applet" bugs?
[16:37]  * BUGabundo export car; do wash && clean; done; eat; sleep
[16:41] <Lavir> Hi everybody! Please tell where should I file the bug? Or how to make Ubuntu to ask "Document is unsaved. Save?" when I select "reboot".
[16:42] <Lavir> Oh. Sorry. The first question is already answered. :-[
[16:43] <hggdh> Lavir, so what is your question?
[16:43] <Lavir> How to make Ubuntu to ask "Document is unsaved. Save?" when I select "reboot"?
[16:44] <hggdh> what programme? How do you select 'reboot'? ;-)
[16:45] <Lavir> Sorry, I have Linux Mint... But it is based on the latest version of Ubuntu. I open GEdit, type something and then reboot through Gnome menu. GEdit does not ask me to save my work.
[16:47] <hggdh> Lavir, this *does* sound like a sensible request. Since you are running Linux Mint, I *think* -- and I am not sure, since I do not deal with Mint -- that you should open a bug against it on Mint; Mint triagers will forward the bug to us
[16:47] <hggdh> if they agree this should be looked at.
[16:47] <greg-g> Lavir: that is because the system just tells gedit to "close now or else!" which doesn't give it the opportunity to ask for your input. However, I see how that would be useful, the implementation side is a bit complicated/hairy most likely. I think a blueprint might be in order here.
[16:47] <hggdh> greg-g, +1
[16:48] <hggdh> this really should be an option: reboot now, or reboot with saves
[16:48] <hggdh> potential impacts abound, though
[16:51] <Lavir> OK. Could you please test this in Ubuntu? Just right now?
[16:51] <Lavir> Just to get a confirmation.
[16:52] <hggdh> will do. Hang on, I will flip off/on (but I think I know what will happen)
[16:53] <hggdh> Lavir, I was gladly surprised when I *tried* to logout (*NOT* reboot): Gnome asked me to save the file
[16:54] <charlie-tca> Actually, Xubuntu with gedit will hang and wait for you to find the document. Is Mint the same?
[16:54] <hggdh> and I got an option to Lock screen/Cancel/Logout anyway
[16:54] <hggdh> charlie-tca, with logout or reboot?
[16:54] <charlie-tca> reboot
[16:55] <hggdh> interesting. Will test mine, never had this scenario before
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I have to look in each workspace to find what it wants me to do
[16:55] <hggdh> brb
[16:55] <Lavir> Gnome-based Mint's GEdit does not ask anything when rebooting.
[16:55] <charlie-tca> I think it is reported on launchpad, too
[16:56] <hggdh> OK. Karmic will also hang on the reboot command waiting for user input
[16:57] <hggdh> Lavir, I am running Ubuntu+1; Mint is probably Jaunty-based, or older
[16:57] <Lavir> Jaunty-based.
[16:58] <hggdh> which means: either this was implemented on Karmic, or Mint is missing something
[16:58] <Lavir> Khmmm, I'll try to check father's computer, he has the latest updates.
[16:58] <charlie-tca> Mine does it in both jaunty and karmic
[16:59] <hggdh> the plot thickens, and points to Mint ;-)
[16:59] <charlie-tca> drives me nuts! I have 10 workspaces to look at when it hangs
[16:59] <hggdh> :-)
[17:00] <hggdh> yes, I was wondering about the possible impacts...
[17:01] <Lavir> Cancel. Mint with latest updates does like hggdh wrote: showing "Save?" dialog and that "Lock/etc" popup.
[17:01] <hggdh> Lavir, welcome to the triager's world ;-)
[17:03] <Lavir> Thank you all guys for the test!
[17:04] <hggdh> welcome
[19:26] <shadeslayer> hey guys i want to help with triaging for the next 4 weeks,im reading the wiki and will start in about 2-3 hours....can i come here for sagely advice?
[19:28] <bencrisford> shadeslayer: Uh huh :)
[19:28] <bencrisford> course you can :D
[19:29] <shadeslayer> :D
[19:29] <shadeslayer> ive filed a few paperkuts my self :P
[19:32] <BUGabundo> I haven't even had the time to look at most that have been marked :/
[19:32] <BUGabundo> shame on me
[19:33] <shadeslayer> BUGabundo: hehe... ive filed one regarding the accessibility of the IRC :)
[19:34] <shadeslayer> wow...this is a _huge_ wiki :)
[23:24] <bcurtiswx> good afternoon all
[23:27] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: more like 23.30
[23:27] <bcurtiswx> BUGabundo: ok ok, its 16:30 HERE
[23:27] <dupondje> 00:30 here ;)
[23:28] <BUGabundo> bcurtiswx: shiu. don't yell
[23:28] <bcurtiswx> well i guess i will go with good morning/afternoon/evening/night ?
[23:29] <bcurtiswx> im happy that empathy has irc chatroom userlists now
[23:29] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: ^^
[23:54] <hggdh> bcurtiswx, hum. OK, I will bite once more ;-)
[23:54] <hggdh> brb
[23:54] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: cool :-), ok
[23:58] <hggdh> hum. bcurtiswx, yes, the user list is here. But it takes a lot of space
[23:59] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: you can shrink it'
[23:59] <hggdh> vertically?
[23:59] <hggdh> one id, two empty lines, another id, etc
[23:59] <bcurtiswx> hggdh: ah you don't like all the whitespace?
[23:59] <hggdh> nope