[03:28] <ppurka> hi all.. i want to know whether it is possible to get the ubuntu-specific kernel patches for 2.6.30
[04:13] <dhendrix> hey everyone... i'm trying to use make-kpkg to package kernels, but I keep getting annoying interactive warning messages when I try to install a fresh kernel package. I've set "do_initrd = yes", "warn_initrd = no", "clobber_modules = yes", and "silent_modules  = yes" but I still get warnings about installing an initrd kernel and writing over an old /lib/modules/$version directory.
[04:13] <dhendrix> has anyone else seen this?
[09:33] <maxb> Hi, the Karmic ABI 10 kernel results in gnome-power-manager not being able to set/get laptop panel brightness - Acer Aspire One, Intel graphics - any thoughts on what I need to put in a useful bug report?
[09:42] <smb> maxb, It would be interesting to see what is in (and under) /sys/class/brightness. I am not really sure what caused that ever to work. The acpi interface seems not to work and the acer-wmi is supposed not to...
[09:49] <maxb> Actually it works pretty horridly without KMS also
[09:49] <maxb> But KMS makes it actually give errors, rather than just behaving bizarrely, so something has changed
[09:51] <smb> I know. From the 1000 (not really but felt) levels the OSD suggested in Jaunty, only the first 7 or 9 were real.
[09:51] <smb> Hm, errors in dmesg?
[09:51] <maxb> And I don't seem to *have* a /sys/class/brightness !
[09:52] <maxb> I'm booted without KMS at the moment, I'll comb dmesg after my next reboot.
[09:52] <smb> That is what I would expect. With all the experience with the aa1 it seems it does most things internally in the hw
[09:52] <maxb> But KMS itself seems to be working fine, and VT switching is so slick now :-)
[09:53] <smb> True :)
[09:54] <smb> I currently booted an 8.9 kernel with kms and can change the brightness with the hotkeys, but without any osd feedback
[10:00] <mvo> hello. I was wondering if anyone if familar with "crash" and knows if there is a way to get a backtrace without the linux-image-debug package?
[10:06] <smb> mvo, I would not say I am familiar with crash, so I cannot say whether it will do anything without files with symbol information. But in general a backtrace of a kernel stack without cannot tell which function name an address belongs to. And that is unlikely useful
[10:17] <mvo> smb: thanks, it was a small hope I had, the debug pakage is just so huge
[10:17] <smb> mvo, If you compile locally, you could take the vmlinux produced there
[12:08] <mdz> l-r-m is no longer, right?
[12:28] <asac> during boot and in syslog i am seeing: [69908.676578] end_request: I/O error, dev fd0, sector 0
[12:28] <asac> is that known? bugid?
[12:28]  * asac does not have a floppy drive
[12:42] <amitk> mdz: correct.
[12:45] <mvo> asac: I see this as well (and I have no floopy) - IIRC it was a devicekit issue and is already reported
[12:46] <asac> mvo: hmm. ok. but that happens really early during boot
[12:46] <asac> something like "testing for hardware ..." ...
[12:47] <asac> and then that takes ages and it spits out those messages
[12:55] <mvo> oh
[12:55] <mvo> asac: maybe its something else then
[13:43] <maxb> If killing devkit-disks-daemon stops it, it's likely the already reported issue
[14:08] <pgraner> ogasawara_: ping
[14:10] <pgraner> ogasawara_: unping /me forgot your in PST
[14:17] <zhoujingrui> hi
[19:57] <rtg> apw: are you familiar with the grub2 --no-floppy borkage?
[20:06] <apw> rtg no not heard anything about that
[20:06] <apw> where is that being discussed
[20:28] <maxb> Since updating to karmic abi 10, on some boots intermittently, my touchpad intermittently gets reported as a 'PS/2 Synaptics TouchPad' instead of a 'SynPS/2 Synaptics TouchPad', causing hal to miscategorise it as a mouse.... any thoughts on what to dig into?
[20:29] <rtg> maxb: IIRC there was a reset patch, or perhaps an unusual device patch for that.
[20:30] <rtg> that was in Jaunty, so it ought to still be in Karmic
[20:37] <maxb> This problem is new in karmic abi 10
[20:40] <rtg> maxb: hmm, almost all of the work from ABI 9 to 10 was config stuff. Is there some config option that has disappeared or changed?
[21:08] <apw> rtg as i recall the configs were mostly unchanged
[21:08] <rtg> apw: that was my observation as well
[21:23] <JFo> ogasawara, thanks for being willing to guide me. I'll pester you after I have read up more on the information you gave me :-)
[21:23] <ogasawara> JFo: great, thanks for wanting to help!
[21:23] <JFo> no problem