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dthackerare last night's logs posted?01:07
pleia2dthacker: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/23/%23ubuntu-meeting.html01:07
pleia2we're right at the top :)01:08
dthackeroff to read, hope it went well.01:08
dthackerbodhi_zazen: do you need a relief sysadmin?01:11
bodhi_zazenA back up would be nice, if I am away01:12
bodhi_zazenI am comfortable with running the server, and now that it is set up not much has been needed in terms of sys admin01:13
dthackerbodhi_zazen: I'm comfortable with ubuntu server and apache,  haven't run a moodle install yet.01:17
bodhi_zazensweet01:17
dthackerI've run LAMP based CMS tikiwiki and PHPbbs01:17
bodhi_zazenUbuntu is a bit odd in terms of where it places the Moodle stuff01:17
bodhi_zazenI am currently running lighttpd and postgresql01:17
dthackerexcellent01:18
bodhi_zazenrecently the tweaks have involved php actually01:18
dthackerbodhi_zazen:  have to run for now.  I'll drop you a line and we can discuss what you'd want me to do (and not do ;) )01:20
bodhi_zazen:)01:21
bodhi_zazenthanks01:21
Vantraxanyone been lookint at http://www.linux-for-education.org/?08:07
zirodayHi! I'm just looking through the project and was wondering how are the moodle courses differed to a wikipage?11:50
pleia2hi ziroday11:50
zirodaypleia2: heya11:50
pleia2I'm not a moodle expert :) but it's actually a full course management system11:50
pleia2..which means more to others than it means to me11:51
pleia2but it's more than just a flat-text wiki page11:51
zirodayah okay, and is there any specific content you aim to put on UCLP that's not/not going to be on the wiki?11:52
pleia2the wiki is pretty comprehensive, our aim is to put some of the material from the wiki into course format so it can be taught on IRC, in LoCo teams, and ultimately in the greater community beyond Ubuntu itself (schools, learning centers)11:53
zirodayah that makes an awful lot more sense, so rather then being an alternative to the wiki something more structured that can be given out?11:54
* pleia2 nods11:54
pleia2the wiki is a great resource for reference, but we're aiming to actually teach the material11:54
zirodaysimilar to ubuntu training, but being community run?11:54
pleia2correct11:55
zirodayooh that's nice11:55
zirodayhow can I help, I see that you're requesting topics. Can I write a course for any of those?11:56
pleia2well, currently we're still working through our formation stages, there are some licensing things to be worked through before we can actually start releasing courses of our own11:57
pleia2but absolutely if you have some thoughts for courses, you're welcome to start getting some notes together to get it rolling while we sort out the administriva :)11:58
zirodayawesome! Will the moodle setup at learn.ubft.net/learn.ubuntu.com be the final one, or is that just a sandbox currently?11:59
pleia2as it stands we're using learn.ubft.net, once we've cut through some red tape and got some quality courses up and running we'll be granted learn.ubuntu.com12:01
zirodaygreat! One last question (I promise) what's the "enrol me" button meant to do?12:02
pleia2good question12:04
pleia2this is where my lack of moodle expertise comes in :)12:04
zirodayhehe12:04
pleia2I'm probably the one on the project who knows the *least* about how the moodle workflow works12:05
zirodayI do remember using it briefly at school, but never managed to work it out either12:05
pleia2yeah, the only time I've ever used it was with the ubuntu training materials, and even then it was a bit of an enigma12:07
pleia2"just tell me what to click to download the thing!" ;)12:07
pleia2good morning cprofitt12:07
zirodayoh, the official ubuntu training courses use moodle as well?12:08
pleia2they have an online course that uses moodle, yes12:08
Deadmanhello12:58
greg-ghey all interested parties (doctormo, pleia2, and bodhi and cproffit aren't here I guess) I just wrote the draft LicensingTerms page on the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms15:56
pleia2greg-g: awesome, thanks!15:57
greg-gpleia2: comments/suggestions/corrections/changes/critiques/assaults/flatery welcome15:59
greg-g:)15:59
greg-gespecially concerning my suggested citation/attribution example15:59
* pleia2 will carve out some time in a bit to work on it16:02
greg-gpleia2: no rush16:04
pleia210:56:28 < greg-g> hey all interested parties (doctormo, pleia2, and bodhi and cproffit aren't here I guess) I just wrote the draft LicensingTerms page on the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms16:56
pleia2^^ FYI16:56
doctormothanks pleia216:56
doctormopleia2: Your a hero! it's great, I'm going to add a graphic16:59
pleia2it's greg-g's!16:59
pleia2and yes, he did a great job17:00
doctormopleia2: Oh your both in purple, damn Konversation17:16
doctormogreg-g: sorry, _your_ the hero, pleia2 is side kick ;-D17:16
pleia2hehe17:16
greg-gdoctormo:  :)17:18
doctormoand it kind of makes sense, because greg is the one I asked to help17:18
greg-gheh, indeed17:18
doctormohttps://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms <- graphic added17:27
cprofittthanks doctormo can you link that page from our agenda page?17:44
cprofittdoctormo, also... the author(s) of the course would need to be given attribution not the UCLP17:47
doctormocprofitt: Yes, I was going to bring that up with greg-g just as your typed, great minds.17:48
greg-gah, yeah, you can add that to the suggested attribution line.17:49
greg-gcprofitt: doctormo ^^17:49
doctormogreg-g: The UCLP won't have copyrights, so the authors should be listed and I'd like to make an edit to add "that enough space for all credits be made available"17:50
doctormoBecause I've learned that people like to strip out credits doing Ubunchu, very annoying17:50
greg-gdoctormo: valid point, depending on the number of authors for a given course, it might be easy to provide an /Authors page you can link to. Or, just make people list them all (not terribly burdonsome, really).17:53
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