[01:07] <dthacker> are last night's logs posted?
[01:07] <pleia2> dthacker: http://irclogs.ubuntu.com/2009/06/23/%23ubuntu-meeting.html
[01:08] <pleia2> we're right at the top :)
[01:08] <dthacker> off to read, hope it went well.
[01:11] <dthacker> bodhi_zazen: do you need a relief sysadmin?
[01:12] <bodhi_zazen> A back up would be nice, if I am away
[01:13] <bodhi_zazen> I am comfortable with running the server, and now that it is set up not much has been needed in terms of sys admin
[01:17] <dthacker> bodhi_zazen: I'm comfortable with ubuntu server and apache,  haven't run a moodle install yet.
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> sweet
[01:17] <dthacker> I've run LAMP based CMS tikiwiki and PHPbbs
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> Ubuntu is a bit odd in terms of where it places the Moodle stuff
[01:17] <bodhi_zazen> I am currently running lighttpd and postgresql
[01:18] <dthacker> excellent
[01:18] <bodhi_zazen> recently the tweaks have involved php actually
[01:20] <dthacker> bodhi_zazen:  have to run for now.  I'll drop you a line and we can discuss what you'd want me to do (and not do ;) )
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> :)
[01:21] <bodhi_zazen> thanks
[08:07] <Vantrax> anyone been lookint at http://www.linux-for-education.org/?
[11:50] <ziroday> Hi! I'm just looking through the project and was wondering how are the moodle courses differed to a wikipage?
[11:50] <pleia2> hi ziroday
[11:50] <ziroday> pleia2: heya
[11:50] <pleia2> I'm not a moodle expert :) but it's actually a full course management system
[11:51] <pleia2> ..which means more to others than it means to me
[11:51] <pleia2> but it's more than just a flat-text wiki page
[11:52] <ziroday> ah okay, and is there any specific content you aim to put on UCLP that's not/not going to be on the wiki?
[11:53] <pleia2> the wiki is pretty comprehensive, our aim is to put some of the material from the wiki into course format so it can be taught on IRC, in LoCo teams, and ultimately in the greater community beyond Ubuntu itself (schools, learning centers)
[11:54] <ziroday> ah that makes an awful lot more sense, so rather then being an alternative to the wiki something more structured that can be given out?
[11:54]  * pleia2 nods
[11:54] <pleia2> the wiki is a great resource for reference, but we're aiming to actually teach the material
[11:54] <ziroday> similar to ubuntu training, but being community run?
[11:55] <pleia2> correct
[11:55] <ziroday> ooh that's nice
[11:56] <ziroday> how can I help, I see that you're requesting topics. Can I write a course for any of those?
[11:57] <pleia2> well, currently we're still working through our formation stages, there are some licensing things to be worked through before we can actually start releasing courses of our own
[11:58] <pleia2> but absolutely if you have some thoughts for courses, you're welcome to start getting some notes together to get it rolling while we sort out the administriva :)
[11:59] <ziroday> awesome! Will the moodle setup at learn.ubft.net/learn.ubuntu.com be the final one, or is that just a sandbox currently?
[12:01] <pleia2> as it stands we're using learn.ubft.net, once we've cut through some red tape and got some quality courses up and running we'll be granted learn.ubuntu.com
[12:02] <ziroday> great! One last question (I promise) what's the "enrol me" button meant to do?
[12:04] <pleia2> good question
[12:04] <pleia2> this is where my lack of moodle expertise comes in :)
[12:04] <ziroday> hehe
[12:05] <pleia2> I'm probably the one on the project who knows the *least* about how the moodle workflow works
[12:05] <ziroday> I do remember using it briefly at school, but never managed to work it out either
[12:07] <pleia2> yeah, the only time I've ever used it was with the ubuntu training materials, and even then it was a bit of an enigma
[12:07] <pleia2> "just tell me what to click to download the thing!" ;)
[12:07] <pleia2> good morning cprofitt
[12:08] <ziroday> oh, the official ubuntu training courses use moodle as well?
[12:08] <pleia2> they have an online course that uses moodle, yes
[12:58] <Deadman> hello
[15:56] <greg-g> hey all interested parties (doctormo, pleia2, and bodhi and cproffit aren't here I guess) I just wrote the draft LicensingTerms page on the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms
[15:57] <pleia2> greg-g: awesome, thanks!
[15:59] <greg-g> pleia2: comments/suggestions/corrections/changes/critiques/assaults/flatery welcome
[15:59] <greg-g> :)
[15:59] <greg-g> especially concerning my suggested citation/attribution example
[16:02]  * pleia2 will carve out some time in a bit to work on it
[16:04] <greg-g> pleia2: no rush
[16:56] <pleia2> 10:56:28 < greg-g> hey all interested parties (doctormo, pleia2, and bodhi and cproffit aren't here I guess) I just wrote the draft LicensingTerms page on the wiki. https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms
[16:56] <pleia2> ^^ FYI
[16:56] <doctormo> thanks pleia2
[16:59] <doctormo> pleia2: Your a hero! it's great, I'm going to add a graphic
[16:59] <pleia2> it's greg-g's!
[17:00] <pleia2> and yes, he did a great job
[17:16] <doctormo> pleia2: Oh your both in purple, damn Konversation
[17:16] <doctormo> greg-g: sorry, _your_ the hero, pleia2 is side kick ;-D
[17:16] <pleia2> hehe
[17:18] <greg-g> doctormo:  :)
[17:18] <doctormo> and it kind of makes sense, because greg is the one I asked to help
[17:18] <greg-g> heh, indeed
[17:27] <doctormo> https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Learning/LicensingTerms <- graphic added
[17:44] <cprofitt> thanks doctormo can you link that page from our agenda page?
[17:47] <cprofitt> doctormo, also... the author(s) of the course would need to be given attribution not the UCLP
[17:48] <doctormo> cprofitt: Yes, I was going to bring that up with greg-g just as your typed, great minds.
[17:49] <greg-g> ah, yeah, you can add that to the suggested attribution line.
[17:49] <greg-g> cprofitt: doctormo ^^
[17:50] <doctormo> greg-g: The UCLP won't have copyrights, so the authors should be listed and I'd like to make an edit to add "that enough space for all credits be made available"
[17:50] <doctormo> Because I've learned that people like to strip out credits doing Ubunchu, very annoying
[17:53] <greg-g> doctormo: valid point, depending on the number of authors for a given course, it might be easy to provide an /Authors page you can link to. Or, just make people list them all (not terribly burdonsome, really).