| BryanLBasil | Okay. Thanks anyway, beuno. Sorry about the slow typing, everyone. My hands are cold. :P | 00:00 |
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| pleia2 | BryanLBasil: I agree with beuno, great start but I'd like to see more sutained involvement +0 | 00:00 |
| beuno | BryanLBasil, I'm an official Ubuntu translator for spanish, so I'll be very happy to help you out join the team | 00:00 |
| Technoviking | +) from me also, a great geat start, keep it up and you will be fine. | 00:01 |
| BryanLBasil | beuno: thanks a lot, that would be great. | 00:01 |
| beuno | smiley vote! | 00:01 |
| Technoviking | +0, sigh | 00:01 |
| nixternal | +1 from me | 00:01 |
| greg-g | BryanLBasil: I agree with everything about your current progress and future, I just want to see what you look like in 3 months. +0 | 00:01 |
| pleia2 | BryanLBasil: also, I noticed that a magazine is on your todo list - are you familiar with Full Circle Magazine and the new Ubuntu User Magazine? | 00:01 |
| BryanLBasil | pleia2: Those are virtual magazines, right? | 00:02 |
| pleia2 | BryanLBasil: Ubuntu User is print | 00:02 |
| BryanLBasil | pleia2: Any way that I can contribute? | 00:02 |
| pleia2 | BryanLBasil: Linux Pro Magazine released it, presumably you'd go through them | 00:02 |
| BryanLBasil | Are they on LP? | 00:02 |
| BryanLBasil | Great. | 00:02 |
| nixternal | anyone else? | 00:10 |
| nixternal | vote wise that is | 00:10 |
| BryanLBasil | May I suggest something, while I'm in a room full of ubuntu members? ;-) | 00:10 |
| nixternal | go for it | 00:10 |
| BryanLBasil | On the /Membership page on the ubuntu wiki, it mentions that you should have at least 2 months of sustained contribution. | 00:11 |
| nixternal | I think everyone was waiting for you to catch up on answers and made it a bit quiet in here for you to do so :) | 00:11 |
| BryanLBasil | But it seems that over time, | 00:11 |
| BryanLBasil | that expected time period has increased. | 00:11 |
| pleia2 | BryanLBasil: I'd really like to see you get more involved with the Georgia LoCo team and have some solid contributions to the Marketing team as well :) | 00:11 |
| BryanLBasil | I can't help but feel I've wasted your time | 00:11 |
| beuno | BryanLBasil, I agree | 00:12 |
| BryanLBasil | So, if it could be changed to, say, 6 months, meetings would go by a lot faster. | 00:12 |
| beuno | we need to look into that | 00:12 |
| Vantrax | That is a pretty fair observation BryanLBasil, I have seen that as well. Perhaps that does need to be looked at | 00:12 |
| nixternal | BryanLBasil: oh heck no dude, you didn't waste my time...I am grabbing some wallpapers from ya now :) | 00:12 |
| BryanLBasil | nixternal: haha. :-) | 00:12 |
| nellery | Perhaps someone should bring that up with the CC? | 00:13 |
| greg-g | BryanLBasil: not at all. In fact, I think your contributions to the Answers tracker and your plans make you a good candidate, but I can't really +1 for what I've seen thus far. | 00:13 |
| BryanLBasil | greg-g: Don't worry. I'll be back soon if it doesn't happen today. :P | 00:13 |
| beuno | BryanLBasil, but I still think you need to get a little bit more involved, polish those translations, make a few more connections in the community, etc. You're a great candidate, and if you keep this up, you will wizz through here in 3 months | 00:13 |
| beuno | BryanLBasil, you've applied for all the right reasons, and you should be proud of your accomplishments | 00:14 |
| greg-g | BryanLBasil: and I'll be waiting for you :) | 00:14 |
| Technoviking | nellery: I will | 00:14 |
| nixternal | BryanLBasil: I don't think they weren't saying you didn't have enough time in, you obviously do, they just wanted to see a bit more sustainability and more/cleaner involvement | 00:14 |
| nixternal | your time is good, I just think they have misworded their responses | 00:14 |
| BryanLBasil | beuno: Thanks a lot. Sorry I didn't see that sooner. | 00:15 |
| BryanLBasil | nixternal: Ah. | 00:16 |
| BryanLBasil | :-) | 00:16 |
| beuno | BryanLBasil, you've done something very valuable today, which is bring up the 2 month rule to our attention. Now we have work to do. So thank you | 00:16 |
| nixternal | I am from Chicago, and thus far I am the only one to not muck up the english tongiht :p | 00:16 |
| * nixternal runs and hides | 00:16 | |
| bratsche | heh | 00:16 |
| BryanLBasil | "tongiht"? | 00:16 |
| nixternal | shush | 00:16 |
| nixternal | hahaha | 00:16 |
| nixternal | that's how we spell it here in Chicago | 00:17 |
| BryanLBasil | Sure, sure. | 00:17 |
| ajmitch | nixternal: things are different there, aren't they? | 00:17 |
| nixternal | everything is different here | 00:17 |
| bratsche | Their fingers freeze off in the cold, so it's to be expected that they can't type. ;) | 00:17 |
| nixternal | nice one | 00:18 |
| ajmitch | my fingers are just about frozen now :P | 00:18 |
| nhandler | bratsche: Only some of us can't type ;) | 00:18 |
| BryanLBasil | +1 | 00:18 |
| nixternal | OK, I am back | 00:21 |
| nixternal | hello? am I the only one here now? | 00:23 |
| bratsche | Hi :) | 00:23 |
| nixternal | hehe | 00:24 |
| boredandblogging | nixternal: think we lost quorum | 00:24 |
| greg-g | we may have just lost quorum, unfortunately, we're trying to find another person | 00:24 |
| nixternal | uh oh | 00:24 |
| bratsche | :( | 00:24 |
| greg-g | but it doesn't look good :( | 00:24 |
| BryanLBasil | Was I the last person to show up? | 00:25 |
| bratsche | No. | 00:25 |
| bratsche | I think I'm next. | 00:26 |
| pleia2 | yeah, bratsche you'll be next if we can get quorum | 00:26 |
| greg-g | we have bratsche left, but it isn't looking like we'll be able to vote, or at least, have the vote count | 00:26 |
| boredandblogging | bratsche: yeah, just trying to get quorum | 00:26 |
| bratsche | Yeah I know. | 00:26 |
| * bratsche waits patiently :) | 00:26 | |
| greg-g | thanks :) | 00:26 |
| zehrique | greg-g: may I vote for now on? | 00:29 |
| bratsche | I think you have to be on the membership board. | 00:29 |
| nixternal | zehrique: ya, have to be on a RMB | 00:30 |
| greg-g | zehrique: no, only the board members are able to vote. But thanks for the offer :) | 00:30 |
| nixternal | we are trying to track other RMB members from other parts of the world | 00:30 |
| nhandler | zehrique: Voting is restricted to the membership board, but you can still express your support for people applying to become members | 00:30 |
| zehrique | OK, guys. Thanks for the feedback. | 00:30 |
| zehrique | :) | 00:31 |
| greg-g | bratsche: finding the quorum is proving difficult. I think we're going to have to end this meeting, unfortunately. | 00:32 |
| bratsche | :( | 00:32 |
| greg-g | sorry about that | 00:33 |
| bratsche | Yeah, I understand. | 00:33 |
| bratsche | Is there another meeting scheduled soon? | 00:33 |
| greg-g | that I am unsure of. | 00:33 |
| BryanLBasil | EMEA is | 00:33 |
| BryanLBasil | on the 7th. | 00:33 |
| bratsche | Or if not, could I present my case and another member of the board could vote later or something? | 00:34 |
| greg-g | actually, one moment..... | 00:34 |
| nixternal | persia: around at all with a few minutes to spare? | 00:34 |
| BryanLBasil | bratsche: If this doesn't work out, and you don't want to wait for the next Americas, https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Membership/RegionalBoards/EMEA | 00:34 |
| nixternal | lifeless, elky? few minutes to help out finish up one more member for this evening? | 00:35 |
| nhandler | So, are we going to wait and see if we can pull a member from the Asia membership board? Or are we just going to end the meeting? | 00:37 |
| nixternal | we are trying, but it isn't looking good | 00:37 |
| nixternal | hate to leave 1 hanging | 00:37 |
| bratsche | Thanks for trying! If it doesn't work out then I understand. | 00:37 |
| Vantrax | thats a little disapppointing, is it usually difficult? | 00:38 |
| pleia2 | Vantrax: well, the meeting went over an hour, we tend to lose quorum after that | 00:39 |
| pleia2 | were hoping to get through more, but :\ | 00:39 |
| Vantrax | fair enough | 00:39 |
| nixternal | would be cool if we could deputize people :p | 00:40 |
| bratsche | heh | 00:40 |
| nellery | how many do you need? | 00:40 |
| nixternal | probably 100 ;p | 00:40 |
| Vantrax | isnt that the CC's job nixternal | 00:40 |
| wiebelhaus | You guys must have called me and I missed it? | 00:40 |
| nixternal | hrmm, what about Kubuntu Council members? | 00:40 |
| nixternal | hehe | 00:41 |
| bratsche | Uh oh, then I have no chance to make it ;) | 00:41 |
| bratsche | hehe | 00:41 |
| nhandler | What about MC ;) | 00:41 |
| nixternal | nhandler: ya | 00:41 |
| nixternal | if we can do MC then we have nhandler | 00:41 |
| pleia2 | ok, sorry folks, we're going to have to end the meeting | 00:43 |
| pleia2 | we're going to shoot for having another in 2 weeks :) so watch the board page for the meeting time update | 00:43 |
| bratsche | pleia2: Cool, thanks very much! | 00:43 |
| greg-g | bratsche: see you in 2 weeks! :) | 00:44 |
| bratsche | See you then! | 00:44 |
| BryanLBasil | nixternal: can you start a chat with me? | 00:44 |
| nixternal | isn't like bratsche is going anywhere | 00:44 |
| nixternal | BryanLBasil: can we do it a bit later, I have a date in which I am close to being late for :_) | 00:44 |
| BryanLBasil | Ah. Understandable. :-) | 00:44 |
| nixternal | hehe, at least someone understands :) | 00:44 |
| BryanLBasil | Of course. | 00:44 |
| bratsche | I'm going to guadec, but I think that's over by then. | 00:45 |
| nixternal | you mean the Desktop Summit, it isn't all about GNOME for once ;p | 00:45 |
| * nixternal runs really fast before getting beat up | 00:45 | |
| bratsche | heh | 00:45 |
| * bratsche hides | 00:45 | |
| bratsche | I believe the official term for it now is Guademy! ;) | 00:46 |
| bratsche | Maybe I can boost my Karma in 2 weeks. I was blown away by BryanLBasil's karma. :) | 00:47 |
| greg-g | bratsche: get to answering questions :) | 00:47 |
| BryanLBasil | bratsche: Thanks. :-) I remember I did a couple of translations and had 52 karma, and the day after I answered some questions, I had 470+. haha. | 00:48 |
| bratsche | So far most of the work I've been doing is for upstream, but now I'm starting on something hosted in Launchpad bzr.. more karma, here I come! ;) | 00:48 |
| BryanLBasil | Good luck. :-) | 00:49 |
| bratsche | Thanks! | 00:50 |
| bratsche | See you all in a couple weeks! | 00:50 |
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| evand1 | hi-a | 16:00 |
| robbiew | #startmeeting | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 10:00. The chair is robbiew. | 16:00 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 16:00 |
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| robbiew | howdy | 16:00 |
| robbiew | evand1/evand: hi | 16:00 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:00 |
| mvo | ! | 16:00 |
| evand1 | heh | 16:00 |
| mterry | Hello! | 16:00 |
| al-maisan | :) | 16:00 |
| xivulon | hi | 16:01 |
| Keybuk | yo! | 16:01 |
| cjwatson | hello | 16:02 |
| robbiew | james_w: awake? | 16:02 |
| james_w | hi! | 16:02 |
| robbiew | ;) | 16:02 |
| james_w | I am now | 16:02 |
| robbiew | liw and slangasek are out | 16:02 |
| robbiew | so...let's start | 16:02 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] DebianImportFreeze | 16:03 |
| MootBot | New Topic: DebianImportFreeze | 16:03 |
| robbiew | merge merge merge!!! | 16:03 |
| * Keybuk considers putting together a list of people and the number of merges they have done | 16:03 | |
| robbiew | cjwatson: anything to add? | 16:04 |
| Keybuk | (just for dholbach revenge <g>) | 16:04 |
| dholbach | Keybuk: hu? | 16:04 |
| dholbach | ah ok | 16:04 |
| robbiew | dholbach: sponsorship vs merges | 16:04 |
| robbiew | ;) | 16:04 |
| dholbach | ... whatever :) | 16:04 |
| mterry | Is it useful for me to do merges then sub sponsors, or is sponsoring almost as much work as doing the merge onself? | 16:04 |
| dholbach | more sponsoring! | 16:04 |
| cjwatson | personally I find sponsoring merges to be about the same amount of work as doing the merge myself | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | that doesn't mean it's necessarily a bad thing, since it encourages new contributors | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | robbiew: nothing in particular :) | 16:05 |
| cjwatson | we have 65 packages in main that have not yet been merged | 16:06 |
| robbiew | :/ | 16:06 |
| cjwatson | some of those aren't a big deal | 16:06 |
| evand1 | 64, I merged partman-efi not too long ago | 16:06 |
| robbiew | k...moving on | 16:07 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] glibc | 16:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: glibc | 16:07 |
| robbiew | doko is in OEM...so.... | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | frex the Debian changes to tasksel are basically just Debian task changes irrelevant to us; installation-guide doesn't really matter urgently; kernel-wedge is typically more trouble than it's worth | 16:07 |
| cjwatson | etc. but everything ought to have been looked at | 16:07 |
| robbiew | who's "interested" in looking after glibc this cycle...I believe we need to update to a new version, no? | 16:08 |
| robbiew | 2.10 | 16:08 |
| doko | we should. it's easy if we decide on eglibc, it requires re-merging if we stay with glibc | 16:09 |
| * mterry feels like he should, as he kicked doko out | 16:09 | |
| robbiew | heh | 16:09 |
| mterry | doko, a decision didn't happen at UDS? | 16:09 |
| robbiew | no | 16:10 |
| robbiew | which means (to me) that we stay on glibc this cycle...and move for Karmic+1 | 16:10 |
| doko | the "difficulty" will be not to drop patches which are not in glibc but in eglibc. and then watch the eglibc commits, what Debian does submit to eglibc ... | 16:10 |
| mterry | doko, i.e. apply all patches to eglibc to glibc? | 16:11 |
| robbiew | do we NEED to update this cycle? | 16:11 |
| cjwatson | there's zero point in just applying patches from eglibc to glibc, IMO | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | if we're going to merge we should merge; otherwise we should stay where we are | 16:12 |
| cjwatson | no point in a halfway house | 16:12 |
| doko | and no poing in glibc-2.10? | 16:12 |
| robbiew | or is it just something that would be nice...if doko was around fulltime on the team | 16:13 |
| robbiew | especially since I think the LTS is going to be 10.10 | 16:13 |
| cjwatson | the idea of somebody new to glibc attempting to construct a glibc 2.10 package without help from Debian does not fill me with enthusiasm | 16:13 |
| * robbiew is apparently typing to himself :/ | 16:13 | |
| cjwatson | (the package in Debian experimental is eglibc 2.10 ...) | 16:13 |
| doko | well, if 10.10 is the lts, then we maybe can stay with 2.9 for now | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | my personal preference would be to merge up to what Debian currently ship | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | and leave it at that, modulo bugfixes | 16:14 |
| cjwatson | (i.e. eglibc 2.9) | 16:15 |
| robbiew | ok...so I suppose we don't touch glibc this cycle, since I can't seem to find enough interest to do so | 16:15 |
| cjwatson | but emphasis on personal | 16:15 |
| doko | cjwatson: but using eglibc? fine with me, but I remember we did decide else ... | 16:16 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Karmic Status and Roadmap | 16:16 |
| robbiew | https://wiki.ubuntu.com/FoundationsTeam/ReleaseStatus/Karmic | 16:16 |
| robbiew | I've deferred a few more features | 16:16 |
| robbiew | and have things in order...pretty much | 16:16 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Karmic Status and Roadmap | 16:16 |
| cjwatson | doko: we failed to decide, AFAICS, despite various attempts to do so | 16:16 |
| * robbiew is apparently having weird irc issues | 16:16 | |
| doko | cjwatson: whoever works on this, there are currently three different branches on lp (glibc-2.9, eglibc-2.9, eglibc-2.10) | 16:18 |
| mterry | robbiew, you've dropped status colors a couple times in that wiki. Was that intentional? | 16:18 |
| cjwatson | I think I might have put the status colors in the wrong column, but ... | 16:19 |
| robbiew | mterry: yes...moved deferred items to a separate section | 16:20 |
| robbiew | and the red was really to highlight no owners | 16:20 |
| robbiew | my status was in alpha stage ;) | 16:20 |
| robbiew | now the colors will stay or transition to the "previous status" area | 16:20 |
| mterry | robbiew, OK, there was a green status on the rsyslog thing twice, but it got dropped. wasn't sure if I/cjwatson had been doing it wrong | 16:21 |
| robbiew | hmm | 16:22 |
| robbiew | maybe I overwrote it | 16:22 |
| * robbiew will be more careful | 16:22 | |
| robbiew | in any case, I don't think anyone needs to worry about setting colors for their work...let me worry about that stuff ;) | 16:23 |
| cjwatson | ah, that's a relief, I hadn't been sure | 16:24 |
| robbiew | lol | 16:24 |
| robbiew | yeah...let the manager do that tedious crap ;) | 16:24 |
| robbiew | as a reminder, please try to put in milestones in your blueprints | 16:24 |
| cjwatson | ok, shall we just give updates in weekly catch-up calls then? | 16:24 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: yes....that was the plan | 16:25 |
| robbiew | some have calls only every two weeks | 16:25 |
| robbiew | but I can use irc quite well ;) | 16:25 |
| cjwatson | hah | 16:25 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Platform Sprint | 16:25 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Platform Sprint | 16:25 |
| robbiew | book your tix | 16:26 |
| robbiew | and complete the wiki please | 16:26 |
| robbiew | http://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuPlatform/Sprints/Karmic | 16:26 |
| MootBot | LINK received: http://wiki.canonical.com/UbuntuPlatform/Sprints/Karmic | 16:26 |
| mterry | booked, will wiki later today | 16:26 |
| robbiew | whoops...the LTS update item was from last week :/ | 16:27 |
| mterry | I have to skip the last day, fyi. My poor planning | 16:27 |
| robbiew | mterry: you and Keybuk will be missed | 16:27 |
| robbiew | and assigned work | 16:27 |
| robbiew | :P | 16:27 |
| mterry | heh | 16:27 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Sponsorship Queue | 16:27 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Sponsorship Queue | 16:27 |
| robbiew | that's all I'm going to say...we all know about it | 16:28 |
| robbiew | no sense in nagging too much ;) | 16:28 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] Good News | 16:28 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Good News | 16:28 |
| robbiew | any? | 16:28 |
| cjwatson | I trimmed a bunch of space off the live CD initrd | 16:28 |
| robbiew | the Debian guys didn't run away screaming from our Boot sprint | 16:29 |
| mvo | kernel-crashdumps progressing nicely (hopefully the reporting etc is all done now) | 16:29 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: woot! | 16:29 |
| robbiew | mvo: nice! | 16:29 |
| cjwatson | partly with generic improvements to various bits of initramfs software, partly by switching it over to lzma (though that doesn't quite seem to have stuck yet, I'll check into why). Total space gained is somewhere around 4MB | 16:29 |
| robbiew | [TOPIC] AOB? | 16:30 |
| MootBot | New Topic: AOB? | 16:30 |
| * mterry doesn't know what "AOB" means | 16:30 | |
| cjwatson | any other business | 16:30 |
| mterry | ah | 16:30 |
| cjwatson | both Robbie and I are going to be out on Friday | 16:30 |
| * doko is away now | 16:31 | |
| cjwatson | robbiew: did we decide that slangasek would represent us at the release meeting, or do we need somebody else to do so? | 16:31 |
| robbiew | I think he is a proper rep ;) | 16:31 |
| robbiew | evand1 is also out Friday...and tomorrow | 16:31 |
| evand1 | and monday | 16:31 |
| robbiew | or evand...whatever he calls himself | 16:31 |
| evand1 | heh | 16:31 |
| robbiew | cjwatson: I'll remind slangasek tomorrow about our absence..since he'll be working UK hours | 16:32 |
| robbiew | #endmeeting | 16:32 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 10:32. | 16:32 |
| robbiew | that's all she wrote! | 16:32 |
| mvo | thanks | 16:32 |
| evand1 | thanks | 16:33 |
| al-maisan | Cheerio! | 16:33 |
| heno | hello! | 17:57 |
| bdmurray | hi | 17:57 |
| * fader waves. | 17:57 | |
| pedro_ | hola! | 17:57 |
| eeejay | hey folks | 17:57 |
| cr3 | eeejay: yo mama | 17:58 |
| * ogasawara waves | 17:58 | |
| davmor2 | hello | 17:58 |
| sbeattie | hey | 17:58 |
| heno | let's start! | 18:00 |
| heno | #startmeeting | 18:01 |
| MootBot | Meeting started at 12:01. The chair is heno. | 18:01 |
| MootBot | Commands Available: [TOPIC], [IDEA], [ACTION], [AGREED], [LINK], [VOTE] | 18:01 |
| heno | agenda as usual: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/Meetings | 18:01 |
| heno | UbuntuBugDay highlights -- pedro | 18:01 |
| pedro_ | Last Thursday we had a hug day based on Empathy: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090618 | 18:01 |
| pedro_ | was a good hug day for us, since the upstream maintainers were around to help us solving questions | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | and we've submitted a good quantity of bugs upstream as well | 18:02 |
| heno | excellent! | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | showard helped us during the hug day, kudos to him | 18:02 |
| pedro_ | and tomorrow we're having a hug day based on Banshee : https://wiki.ubuntu.com/UbuntuBugDay/20090625 | 18:03 |
| heno | pedro_: should we have a bug day for 100 paper cuts? | 18:03 |
| pedro_ | mm that's a good idea | 18:04 |
| heno | I understand there has been a flood of reports | 18:04 |
| heno | get the whole DUX team to triage them ;) | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | yeap there's quite a lot of bug email noise coming from there | 18:04 |
| heno | I can speak with them tomorrow about that | 18:04 |
| pedro_ | we're receiving a lot of bug mail from nautilus for example | 18:05 |
| heno | will a bug day just create more unwanted bug noise? | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | most of them comments from users | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | well we can at least help the DUX team to reduce the new bugs there | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | there's ~280 new open bugs | 18:05 |
| pedro_ | nah don't think it's going to generate even more noise, since the tasks are already open | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | would be nice to have more eyes looking at those | 18:06 |
| heno | and help them understand the implications of blogging to request that people file more bugs about all their little annoyances ;) | 18:06 |
| pedro_ | yes please ;-) | 18:07 |
| heno | ok, I'll talk with them | 18:07 |
| pedro_ | awesome! thanks | 18:07 |
| heno | thanks pedro for the report | 18:07 |
| heno | [TOPIC] SRU Verifications -- sbeattie | 18:07 |
| MootBot | New Topic: SRU Verifications -- sbeattie | 18:07 |
| pedro_ | my pleasure | 18:07 |
| sbeattie | First off, thanks to Neil Hoggarth, Peter Adolphs, Benjamin Drung, Lennart Jütte, Ryan, Anoop, Gerhard Radatz, and Neil Wallace for testing and posting results for SRUs this week. | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | 8.04.3 SRUs are progressing, though there's more still to do. | 18:08 |
| sbeattie | We tried to run a testing day on monday focusing on that: https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Testing/UbuntuTestingDay/20090622 but didn't get much uptake. | 18:09 |
| heno | no green :( | 18:09 |
| sbeattie | So more help is requested; in particular, help with the hardware specific issues outlined in the announcement http://blog.qa.ubuntu.com/node/55 would be useful | 18:09 |
| davmor2 | Yes sorry I wasn't around much Monday :( | 18:10 |
| sbeattie | Yeah. I did a few, but ended up struggling most of the day trying to reproduce the apache mod_ssl one. | 18:10 |
| heno | sbeattie: have you looked into the forum testing community? | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | Not yet, but thanks for the tip, I'll poke around there. | 18:11 |
| sbeattie | Oh, I should note that hardy isos started get spun on monday. | 18:11 |
| heno | cr3: heve we run any 8.04.3 ISOs yet? | 18:11 |
| heno | (in cert testing) | 18:12 |
| fader | heno: We have run some | 18:12 |
| fader | They have been tested on the server hardware | 18:12 |
| cr3 | heno: automated or manual? | 18:12 |
| heno | can we get a view of the coverage? | 18:12 |
| sbeattie | One issue that I discovered last night is that the livecds were being built with proposed enabled, but the server installer was not. | 18:12 |
| heno | cr3: automated, first of all | 18:13 |
| cr3 | fader: server hardware for 20090624 and desktop hardware too for 20090623.1 (isn't /cdimages awesome!?) | 18:13 |
| sbeattie | I believe it's been fixed this morning, but will probably take a day to propogate. | 18:13 |
| fader | heno: It's in the certification site; I will export to a webpage so that it is more visible | 18:13 |
| sbeattie | fader|cr3: much appreciated! | 18:13 |
| fader | cr3: You were one step ahead of me :) | 18:13 |
| heno | fader: thanks. can you present that at Friday's meeting? | 18:13 |
| fader | heno: Will do. | 18:14 |
| cr3 | heno, fader: it seems like the desktop images for hardy aren't being tested, I'll see if they need special massaging | 18:14 |
| davmor2 | sbeattie: I can check out the wifi hardware but I don't have any of the others | 18:14 |
| heno | fader: in fact, I will most likely not make that meeting due to traveling; can you represent QA there? | 18:14 |
| fader | heno: Absolutely. | 18:14 |
| sbeattie | davmor2: that'd be great! | 18:15 |
| heno | sbeattie, cr3: please attend as well | 18:15 |
| sbeattie | heno: will do. | 18:15 |
| cr3 | heno: will do | 18:15 |
| heno | I was very pleased with out presence there last week btw! | 18:15 |
| heno | mainly because we're in good shape on specs ;) | 18:15 |
| cr3 | heno: would it be appropriate to announce automated testing of live cd images during the meeting on Friday? | 18:16 |
| sbeattie | cr3: yes indeed. | 18:16 |
| cr3 | ... so that we could show we're also in good shape on implementation :) | 18:16 |
| heno | cr3: yes, provided we can post some actual results | 18:16 |
| heno | (to be scraped from the cert site I guess) | 18:17 |
| cr3 | heno: fader, schwuk and I will make it happen | 18:17 |
| heno | cool | 18:17 |
| heno | sbeattie: anything else on SRUs? | 18:17 |
| sbeattie | That's pretty much it. | 18:17 |
| heno | conflict-checker work is worth mentioning Friday too | 18:17 |
| cr3 | heno: what's the progress on that? | 18:18 |
| heno | [TOPIC] Spec Roadmap review -- heno | 18:18 |
| sbeattie | Yep, though one of us needs to go through, do some analysis, and file bugs based on the results. | 18:18 |
| MootBot | New Topic: Spec Roadmap review -- heno | 18:18 |
| fader | sbeattie: Can we talk about that after the meeting? | 18:18 |
| heno | cr3: 'good progress' | 18:18 |
| sbeattie | fader: sure thing! | 18:19 |
| heno | See https://wiki.ubuntu.com/QATeam/RoadMap | 18:19 |
| heno | All specs green! (approved) | 18:19 |
| fader | \o/ | 18:19 |
| heno | I'll add some implementation icons as well | 18:20 |
| heno | eeejay: you'll add a ubiquity automation spec right? | 18:20 |
| heno | cr3: and you'll add a filters spec? | 18:20 |
| eeejay | heno: oops, yeah. i'll do that now | 18:20 |
| heno | great, thanks | 18:20 |
| cr3 | heno: depending on my findings, I'm afraid that I'm still at the point where this might lead to a dead end. that is life of research | 18:21 |
| heno | anyone have comments on the roadmap this week? anyone blocked in their spec work? | 18:21 |
| heno | I'll take that as good news | 18:22 |
| heno | Any other topics? | 18:22 |
| bdmurray | Just in case no one saw it negated tag searching has landed in Launchpad | 18:23 |
| heno | \o/ | 18:23 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: woot! | 18:23 |
| pedro_ | \o/! | 18:23 |
| bdmurray | sbeattie that might be interesting for finding non hardware specific sru verification bugs | 18:23 |
| heno | bdmurray: any news on +filebug redirecting? | 18:23 |
| bdmurray | heno: I've not heard anything about it | 18:24 |
| heno | OK, I'll catch up with Tom | 18:24 |
| bdmurray | great | 18:24 |
| bdmurray | Is anybody using the Firefox extension I've made of the launchpad greasemonkey scripts? | 18:25 |
| sbeattie | bdmurray: yes, I am. Working well. | 18:25 |
| ogasawara | bdmurray: I am | 18:25 |
| bdmurray | Cool, that's what I wanted to hear. ;-) | 18:25 |
| bdmurray | I think lp_patches is kind of broken now but I'll look at it this week | 18:26 |
| heno | So I can set that spec to 'beta available'? | 18:26 |
| bdmurray | Yes, that sounds good | 18:26 |
| heno | all, feel free you update spec status as you work on them, btw | 18:27 |
| heno | ok, looks like were done | 18:27 |
| heno | #endmeeting | 18:27 |
| MootBot | Meeting finished at 12:27. | 18:27 |
| davmor2 | bye] | 18:29 |
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| slangasek | robbiew, cjwatson: oh hmm, I'm to be representing Foundations at the release meeting? I thought one of you was still around Friday? | 21:33 |
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| cjwatson | slangasek: I believe Robbie's travelling, and I'm on a swap day | 23:19 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: which I can rearrange if necessary, but I'd rather we just found another representative if need be :) | 23:19 |
| slangasek | would be nice if someone else could represent, my head gets hot when I wear too many hats | 23:20 |
| slangasek | I can do it, though, presuming someone else can feed me the status beforehand :) | 23:21 |
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| cjwatson | slangasek: I'll hunt around tomorrow then | 23:40 |
| cjwatson | slangasek: I thought I'd asked you about this yesterday and you said yes, but you must have only caught half the conversation :) | 23:40 |
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