[04:12] <urbanape> evening (modulo local time), all
[04:51] <ajmitch> rmcbride: if you haven't done so, you should subscribe to bugs for those packages you've got into karmic
[05:05] <rmcbride> ajmitch: I'm subscribed to all bugs for ubuntuone by default because of my team membership. Thanks for the heads up though. The nightlies are broken until we work out the broken import. Should have a good package in about 12 hours when the dev team gets a chance to chew on it.(going to bed now).
[05:05] <ajmitch> rmcbride: I can upload a fixed python-configglue for you, just thought I'd give you a heads-up because you weren't in the subscriber list :)
[05:06] <ajmitch> & I should look at the others still on REVU
[12:55] <facundobatista> Hi all
[12:55] <Chipaca> hey facundobatista
[12:56] <facundobatista> Hola Chipaca
[12:56] <Chipaca> facundobatista: cómo va?
[12:56] <facundobatista> Chipaca, muy bien
[12:57] <Chipaca> facundobatista: yo con algo de gripe
[12:58] <facundobatista> Chipaca, ¿y justo hoy te levantaste terprano?
[12:58] <facundobatista> Chipaca, shouldn't we speak in English?
[12:58] <Chipaca> facundobatista: hey, you started
[13:23] <statik> rmcbride: i'm just reading the backlog here, subscribing to the package bugs is totally separate from the ubuntuone project bugs. It's the page I was trying to show you yesterday but it didn't exist yet: https://edge.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/python-configglue
[13:41] <Chipaca> facundobatista: I'm always up at ~7
[13:41] <Chipaca> facundobatista: mon-fri, that is
[13:41] <Chipaca> facundobatista: weekends you get me out of bed at that hour only for going to the hills or sth
[13:42] <facundobatista> :)
[13:42] <rmcbride> statik: ajmitch: yea I realized that about 3 AM. I shouldn't reply to IRC right before I go to bed :)
[13:42] <dobey> i really don't like the configglue versioning of "dev"
[13:45] <statik> we could fix it
[13:52] <dobey> yay, twitter is broken
[14:17] <dobey> i don't even remember what all i did yesterday...
[14:54] <dobey> so i think it is time to do some re-org of python modules in ubuntuone
[14:55] <urbanape> yay, reorg
[14:55] <dobey> somehow, i always get stuck with doing renames and such
[14:56]  * BUGabundo gets ready to reject any upgrade for U1 for the next week
[14:56] <statik> dobey: what needs reorganizing? dropping the canonical namespace?
[14:58] <dobey> statik: that, and right now we only have sub-packages under storage, and no modules itself. so i am thinking of moving protocol, syncdaemon, and u1sync up a level
[14:58] <statik> seems reasonable
[14:58] <dobey> and then the python-foo packages can all be reasonably named
[14:58] <dobey> instead of python-ubuntuone-storage-blah
[15:00] <teknico> MEETING BEGINS
[15:00] <teknico> To Infirmity, and Beyond! (courtesy thisfred)
[15:00] <teknico> Welcome to the Ubuntu One Developers meeting. Please say "me" if you are here to attend!
[15:00] <teknico> me
[15:00] <CardinalFang> me
[15:00] <dobey> me
[15:00] <rodrigo_> me
[15:00] <jblount> me
[15:00] <vds1> me
[15:00] <statik> me
[15:01] <teknico> who's missing? aquarius?
[15:01]  * BUGabundo leaves
[15:01] <teknico> DONE: worked on the f6l_reset_devices branch, agreed with markgsaye and vds about the phone_db_list one, helped vds with the latter, some administrivia
[15:01] <teknico> TODO: complete the funambol_reset_devices branch, work on the contacts_webui_reset one, maybe review aquarius' branch ;-)
[15:01] <teknico> BLOCKED: nothing
[15:01] <teknico> NEXT: CardinalFang
[15:02] <urbanape> me
[15:02] <urbanape> (woops)
[15:02] <aquarius> me
[15:02] <aquarius> sorry
[15:03] <CardinalFang> DONE: Broke something.  More tests fail.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> TODO: Selectively revert and more tests.  Reorg; shouldn't be in generic "utils"
[15:03] <CardinalFang>  module.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> BLOCKING: Fix my machine before it breaks for real.  Can't ignore SMART warnings and a nonboot.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> dobey, j0.
[15:03] <dobey> DONE: move http sharing code to syncdaemon, more REVU package fixes
[15:03] <dobey> TODO: More REVU changes (reorganize python module layout), Fix sharing branch for review comments, handle dbus errors better in applet, ChangeUp
[15:03] <dobey> BLCK: None, except for the Spanish Inquisition.
[15:03] <CardinalFang> (No one expects it.)
[15:03] <dobey> rodrigo_: tu esta
[15:03] <rodrigo_> :)
[15:03] <rodrigo_> done: more evo-couchdb work, looked at integrating that code repo into our code review process, started discussing contacts picker stuff with aquarius and arusha
[15:04] <rodrigo_> todo: more evo-couchdb work, packages and actually starting the code review process
[15:04] <rodrigo_> blocked: heat :)
[15:04] <rodrigo_> jblount: your turn
[15:04] <jblount> DONE: Got button branch landed, worked on css weirdness with /files/ new ui, a bit of triage
[15:04] <jblount> TODO: /support/issues/ updating branch, *new folder /files/new branch
[15:04] <jblount> vds1: You!
[15:04] <jblount> BLOCKED: Nada
[15:04] <vds1> DONE: face duty, searched through couchdb ml discussed with thisfred about next branch, discussed with teknico about phone db reset.
[15:04] <vds1> Gone through some redesign of the phone/user model, paired with teknico to refactor the phone/user model for his db reset branch, all tests passes again :)
[15:04] <vds1> TODO: finishe the mentione branch
[15:04] <vds1> BLOCKED: never!
[15:04] <vds1> your turn statik
[15:04] <statik> DONE: 3? code reviews. Hopefully the last of the spawning packaging work, and finalized mozrunner.
[15:04] <statik> TODO: scheme with cardinalfang regarding new WSGI servers, work on OOPs with pfibiger, figure out whether south could be made to work with storm. Go on vacations.
[15:04] <statik> BLOCKED: Nope.
[15:04] <statik> urbanape, all you
[15:05] <urbanape> DONE: Reviewed and approved three branches, made and submitted a branch with a new test for the revno media URL injection, chatted with aquarius about the FF extension
[15:05] <urbanape> TODO: Make some headway on the new files UI and cut a branch for an operation, finish paperwork
[15:05] <urbanape> BLOCK: None
[15:05] <urbanape> aquarius, you're up
[15:05] <aquarius> DONE: Talked to urbanape about how our Couch stuff works to keep him in the loop; wrote a tiny patch with statik to make Couch output its path to the log file; split up couch start script into separate local and master scripts; sorted out what licence Till Adam's KDAB work should be under; went to dentist; discussed contacts picker with rodrigo; change D-Bus handler to start CouchDB rather than just check for it; c
[15:05] <aquarius> ontinue with splitting up start scripts
[15:05] <aquarius> TODO: think about packaging CouchDB 0.9.1 with thisfred; think about what the package needs to do to kill and restart CouchDBs on reinstall; write more tests for desktop-couch startup code; whine until the desktop couchdb branch gets reviews
[15:05] <aquarius> BLOCKED: currently using the horror of lsof to find CouchDB port until the print-the-port logfile patch goes in
[15:05] <aquarius> meeting.terminate()
[15:05] <teknico> MEETING ENDS
[15:05] <statik> thanks teknico and all of you!
[15:06] <rodrigo_> statik: I like the last item in your TODO :)
[15:06] <statik> rodrigo_, me too!
[15:06] <rodrigo_> :D
[15:11] <dhanish> hello everybody
[15:11] <jblount> dhanish: Hi!
[15:11] <dhanish> i need help with ubuntuone
[15:11] <dhanish> can someone here help me?
[15:11] <dhanish> hi jblount
[15:12] <jblount> dhanish: We'd love to help, what problem are you having?
[15:13] <dhanish> i've deleted my computer configuration in my ubuntuone account
[15:13] <dhanish> can i add my computer manually?
[15:13] <dhanish> i've tried to reinstall the ubuntuone
[15:13] <dhanish> and hope that the option to add my computer will be showed
[15:14] <dhanish> but it didn't come out
[15:15] <dobey> dhanish: remove the "UbuntuOne token" entry in the "Passwords" tab of the "Accessories->Passwords and Encryption Keys" app, then quit the applet, and start it again from the menu
[15:15] <dhanish> oh, ok, i'll give a try now
[15:17] <dobey> rmcbride: have an eta on getting the nightlies updates copied over to beta?
[15:18] <dhanish> wow
[15:18] <dhanish> it works
[15:18] <dhanish> thanks
[15:18] <rmcbride> dobey: I have to finish the smoke test checklist. Waiting for the last sync to finalize
[15:18] <dobey> dhanish: yeah, we'll be making that less annoying soon
[15:18] <dobey> rmcbride: great
[15:18] <dhanish> dobey: thank you so much
[15:19] <dhanish> if the ubuntuone client is connected, does it synchronized with the files in the server?
[15:19] <dobey> it should, yes
[15:20] <dhanish> my ubuntuone folder is empty, even though i have files in server
[15:21] <markgsaye> dhanish: do you see the Ubuntu One applet logo spinning?
[15:22] <dhanish> it's connected already
[15:22] <dhanish> it doesn't spin anymore
[15:23] <markgsaye> dhanish: what does "u1sdtool --current_transfers" report
[15:25] <dhanish> bash: ulsdtool: command not found
[15:25] <dhanish> do i have to install something first?
[15:25] <markgsaye> dhanish: that's a "one" isntead of "ell" in u1sdtool
[15:26] <dhanish> oh ok
[15:26] <markgsaye> dhanish: /usr/bin/u1sdtool
[15:27] <dhanish> current uploads: 0
[15:27] <dhanish> current downloads: 0
[15:28] <dobey> dhanish: when you re-installed, did you happen to rm your ~/Ubuntu One directory also?
[15:28] <dhanish> no
[15:28] <dobey> ok
[15:28] <dhanish> i just let it there
[15:28] <markgsaye> dhanish: can you pastebin the output of u1sdtool --info="/home/$USER/Ubuntu One/My Files"
[15:29] <dhanish> what is pastebin?
[15:30] <dobey> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/
[15:30] <dhanish> http://pastebin.ubuntu.com/202924/
[15:30] <dhanish> sorry, i'm a newbie :-)
[15:31] <markgsaye> dhanish: no worries, sorry for the confusion
[15:32] <markgsaye> dhanish: does this command start the applet spinning? u1sdtool --refresh="/home/$USER/Ubuntu One/My Files"
[15:32] <dhanish> yes
[15:33] <markgsaye> dhanish: great - do you see files appearing in that directory now?
[15:33] <markgsaye> dhanish: i.e. being sync'ed down from the server
[15:33] <dhanish> no :-(
[15:33] <dhanish> it's still empty
[15:33] <markgsaye> try the "u1sdtool --current-transfers" comand again
[15:34] <markgsaye> is the applet still spinning?
[15:36] <dhanish> the applet has stopped spinning
[15:36] <dhanish> current uploads:0
[15:36] <dhanish> current downloads:0
[15:38] <markgsaye> dhanish: do you have a Launchpad account?
[15:39] <dhanish> i don't know
[15:39] <dhanish> how can i test it?
[15:39] <markgsaye> dhanish: http://launchpad.net/
[15:39] <dhanish> ok
[15:40] <markgsaye> dhanish: I suspect you do not have an account though
[15:40] <dhanish> oh
[15:40] <dhanish> i have one
[15:40] <markgsaye> dhanish: so you can log in to Launchpad?
[15:41] <dhanish> yes
[15:42] <markgsaye> dhanish: would you be able to file a bug regarding your troubles? https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntuone-client/+filebug
[15:42] <dhanish> what should i write?
[15:43] <markgsaye> dhanish: summary could be that files do not sync down from server to desktop
[15:43] <dhanish> ok
[15:43] <dhanish> thank you for the time
[15:43] <markgsaye> dhanish: and main description could include the commands and output that you pasted above
[15:44] <dhanish> ok
[15:44] <markgsaye> dhanish: filing a bug means we have captured some of the information, and we can get that to the developers that can best help you
[15:44] <dhanish> yes
[15:45] <dhanish> i'm writing one now
[15:45] <markgsaye> dhanish: great, thank you
[15:45] <dhanish> thank you markgsaye
[15:48] <scroobious> the channel looks quiet, but -- quick question: Is it possible to set the ubuntuone client to start AFTER a wireless connection has been established?
[15:51] <dobey> scroobious: it won't try to connect if there isn't any network available (unless you're not using something that provides the NetworkManager d-bus api, in which case we have no idea what is going on with the network)
[15:51] <dhanish> i've filled the bugs
[15:51] <dhanish> thank you for the time
[15:51] <dhanish> bye
[15:53] <scroobious> thanks dobey.  No, it's not doing anything wrong -- it's not trying to connect.  I see the red x over the client, and once my (NetworkManager) has made the connection to my network, then I can right-click and connect.  I'm just curious if it could be set to start after the network connection is made, in which case it would automatically connect and wouldn't need me to make the connection.
[15:57] <dobey> scroobious: actually, there is a bug where it isn't connecting automatically. starting it after the network connection is up would still give you the same results currently
[15:58] <scroobious> ah, got it.  I was just checking out the bug reports.  Thanks for the tip
[16:16] <MrEgg9641> Hi :) On average, how long does it take to receive an invitation after you register?
[16:18] <jblount> MrEgg9641: I don't think we've determined the average wait, we have lots of people in queue, and are sending out lots of invitations each day while monitoring our servers.
[16:19] <jblount> Can someone please confirm they can create new folders in the web UI ? I'm trying to traige bug #385794
[16:19] <MrEgg9641> OK - I understand. I've registered over 4 weeks ago, but I guess I'm still in the pipeline then.
[16:19] <jblount> or triage, whateves
[16:23] <pfibiger> jblount: i am able to create new folders in the web ui
[16:24] <jblount> pfibiger: I'm guessing that bug had to do with server load or other weirdness. Should I close as "invalid" or something?
[16:24] <pfibiger> jblount: i believe the database fixes that went in place late last week cleared up a lot of these transient javascript problems
[16:24] <pfibiger> we were seeing xmlhttprequest timeouts, but now the response times are well, well under that timeout threshold.
[16:24] <pfibiger> so i guess 'fix released' would be appropriate
[16:25] <pfibiger> it was a valid issue, now it is believed to be taken care of.
[16:25] <jblount> Right on, will do.
[16:30] <jblount> pfibiger: OT, but I bought these this morning (Prime, + on sale + small Amazon gift card let = $22 overnight) http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0007XJSQC/ref=ox_ya_oh_product
[16:30] <pfibiger> jblount: nice. hopefully you can be as cool as cliff hutson, product model
[16:31] <jblount> pfibiger: That photo is totally what put me over the edge. FREAKING AWESOME!!!!
[16:49] <thisfred__> cliff "the marmot" hutson. wow. jblount: apparently you can also wear them with a baseball cap and not much else: http://www.amazon.com/gp/customer-media/product-gallery/B0007XJSQC/ref=cm_cmu_pg_setImg?ie=UTF8&totalImages=10&pageSize=10&sort=rating&currentImagePage=0&currentImagePageOffset=8&currentImageID=21725311&action=setImg&page=0 working from home FTW
[16:50] <jblount> thisfred__: That is a very good find. Nicely done.
[16:51] <danage> CardinalFang: i'm having a good experience now
[16:52] <danage> thanks for your mail. it's not working properly in all instances, but i think there's already bugs for most (if not all) of my issues
[17:54] <dobey> heh, and these CNU kids are apparently taking CS
[17:55] <dobey> so ctrl+click is difficult to do on my laptop too
[18:17] <dogsthat> is there an easy to way to find out what the revision number of the ubuntuone client is?
[18:18] <dobey> dogsthat: from packages? if you're using beta or nightlies packages, it's part of the package version number
[18:18] <toros> dpkg -l ubuntuone-client
[18:18] <dobey> so yeah, dpkg -l ubuntuone-client or ubuntuone-storage-protocol
[18:20] <dogsthat> toros: thanks, i'm runnning version 44. dobey: yep, from packages.
[18:20] <dogsthat> thanks :)
[18:23] <urbanape> jblount: wanna jump on skype at, say, 2:30 and talk through statik's nightmare?
[18:28] <sladen> jdobrien: three more bug filers in the last 10 minutes about getting invitations with no invite
[18:29] <sladen> statik: ^^
[18:30] <jblount> urbanape: Sure
[18:30] <jdobrien> sladen: yes
[18:30] <urbanape> cool. We need to turn that email he forwarded into bug tickets. I haven't given it much thought since then.
[18:31] <jblount> Yeah, I'll walk through that now. It just fell of the todo list.
[18:32] <dobey> hrmm
[18:32] <dobey> i wonder where the gnome-keyring bindings are for python
[18:33] <sladen> "import gnomekeyring"
[18:33] <dobey> yes
[18:33] <dobey> but i mean the source. where in git/svn/whatever
[18:34] <dobey> ah, gnome-python-desktop
[18:34] <dobey> fail.
[18:34] <sladen> Source: gnome-python-desktop
[18:35] <toros> hmmm, tomorrow will be ubunet-w09 deadline?
[18:35] <dobey> toros: end of today is actually
[18:35] <toros> then this must be a hard day for you :)
[18:38] <dobey> sigh
[18:38] <dobey> bbiab
[18:42] <toros> hmmm: https://launchpad.net/u1-ss - does this mean today is the deadline for the screen sharing feature?
[18:42] <toros> or just the first milestone on a long route?
[18:47] <jdobrien> toros no
[18:48] <jdobrien> toros: the milestones were just added to u1-ss but nothing was assigned to them
[18:49] <toros> jdobrien: thanks for the info
[18:50] <jdobrien> toros: no problem
[18:52] <yofel> hey guys, I've been on the waiting list for ubuntuone for about a month now, any estimate when I could get an invitation?
[19:01] <jdobrien> sladen: I just submitted a branch to fix the issue with invitations
[19:02] <jdobrien> yofel: what's your name so i can find you on the waiting list
[19:02] <yofel> jdobrien: Philip Muskovac
[19:03] <jdobrien> yofel: check your inbox :)
[19:03] <jdobrien> or just go to ubuntuone.com/plans
[19:03]  * yofel hugs jdobrien XD
[19:04] <yofel> thanks!
[19:24] <sladen> rodrigo_: does the glib/evolution couche stuff require anything copyright assignment, or is plain GPLv3 with GNOME considered as upstream?
[19:25] <sladen> ...LGPLv3
[19:29] <jblount> urbanape: Can I push that skype back a few minutes? I'm trying to get the rest of this email in bug form.
[19:29] <urbanape> yeah, no worries
[19:41] <jcastro> dobey: that icon business is fixed for me, nice job!
[19:41] <BUGabundo> here too...
[19:41] <dobey> thanks
[19:43] <dobey> and for my next trick...
[19:43] <jcastro> hi sladen, long time no see
[19:45] <BUGabundo> dobey: to break python?
[19:46] <dobey> BUGabundo: that's not so much a trick, as a design decision, it seems
[20:14] <dobey> hrmm, i think i am going to have to create a new ebay acct
[20:16] <BUGabundo> lolol
[20:16] <BUGabundo> what happened with the previous one?
[20:17] <dobey> i think it's set to an e-mail account that doesn't exist any more
[20:17] <dobey> kind of like the one i had before that :P
[20:19] <BUGabundo> ahah
[20:19] <BUGabundo> humm try emailing support
[20:19] <BUGabundo> and *proving* its you
[20:19] <BUGabundo> phone or snailmail
[20:19] <dobey> if it's anything like skype, it's going to be impossibly hard to reason with them
[20:23] <jblount> dobey: I would just create a new account. eBay's account system is awful.
[20:23] <dobey> yeah
[20:23] <dobey> i'm going to wait a bit and see if the "forgot password" mail makes it through
[20:24] <dobey> and if not, just make a new account
[21:11] <jdobrien> sladen: a fix to the invitation bug has landed in trunk...it will be rolled out with our next schedule rollout tomorrow
[21:18] <sladen> jdobrien: groovy.  I might not be around, so you might need to close/update the bug report directly ;-)
[21:18] <jdobrien> sladen: OK
[21:18] <jdobrien> oops..didn't mean to yell
[21:18] <sladen> :)
[21:27] <alanbell> anyone going to the couchdb meetup in London tomorrow evening?
[21:28] <dobey> alanbell: i think a couple people went last week
[21:29] <dobey> [dobey@lunatari:knights-who-say-say-ubuntuone]: bzr diff|wc -l
[21:29] <dobey> 3081
[21:29] <dobey> haha
[21:29] <dobey> 3k lines of diff
[21:32] <dobey> oh, cool. i had an extra ~1400 lines in there because of po/
[21:38] <rmcbride> dobey: good. I was about to declare the on-call review queue closed for the day :P
[21:38] <dobey> heh
[21:56] <ajmitch> rmcbride: sorry if I was confusing when talking about the bugs last night :)
[21:57] <rmcbride> ajmitch: not at all. I was thinking of something else entirely. As statik mentioned, we had discussed it earlier in teh day but the page wasn't there yet.
[21:57] <rmcbride> ajmitch: thanks for uploading a fixed package too.
[21:58]  * rmcbride needs to get over his obsessive habit of checking IRC right before he goes to bed
[21:58] <ajmitch> it was an easy fix, it was just interrupting my upgrade so I wanted to get it out of the way
[21:58] <ajmitch> the other packages may need to be checked over as well for similar issues
[21:59] <rmcbride> ajmitch: possibly but unlikely. That was entirely my mistake, not knowing the specific requirement I did something I should not have and GUESSED on the lenient side
[21:59] <rmcbride> I should have actually asked John Lenton about it first
[22:00] <ajmitch> these things happen, not a big problem
[22:02] <rmcbride> in the scope of things, I guess a single character mistake isn't the worst n00b packager flub I could have made :)
[22:02] <ajmitch> certainly not :)
[22:03]  * ajmitch has certainly made bigger mistakes than that in the past
[22:05] <dobey> i've been packaging stuff for 9 years, and certainly make mistakes :)
[22:06] <dobey> i've even written a packaging format/system, and i still make mistakes :P
[22:06] <dobey> anyway, time to toll
[22:06] <dobey> err
[22:06] <dobey> roll
[22:06] <dobey> later!
[22:06] <rmcbride> Later dobey
[22:07] <BUGabundo> bye dobey master