[17:51] <BCM43> Is there a good list of the features of edubuntu that I would be able to give to teachers?
[17:58] <Lns> BCM43: you might just want to show them the list of applications available with edubuntu
[17:58] <Lns> http://www.edubuntu.org/applications/8.10 (for Edubuntu 8.10)
[17:59] <BCM43> Lns: looks good, thanks
[18:00] <Lns> BCM43: you're welcome =) let us know if you have any other questions
[18:00] <BCM43> Lns: Acntully, have you ever installed edubuntu in a school enviroment?
[18:01] <Lns> BCM43: I have installed many applications that Edubuntu uses, yes
[18:03] <BCM43> Lns: how have teachers reacted. From the few that  I have installed it for, they seem to like it, and I am thinking about installing about 10 more.
[18:03] <Lns> BCM43: reactions as far as what?
[18:04] <BCM43> Lns: how well the switch went, whether they liked it, if it had what they needed.
[18:05] <Lns> BCM43: well most of the sites I switched were going from Win2k to Ubuntu... best description is here: http://linux.com/news/enterprise/case-studies/16798-linux-makes-the-grade-in-california-schools
[18:06] <Lns> Thought it doesn't say much about edubuntu apps specifically, it's essentially the same
[18:06] <BCM43> thanks
[18:06] <BCM43> I'm working on doing it in a nyc public school and I might write it up later.
[18:07] <Lns> BCM43: awesome!
[18:08] <Lns> BCM43: keep us updated, it's always nice to hear about successful installs. Are you doing LTSP on top of edubuntu as well?
[18:09] <BCM43> Lns: not on about 3 hours a week I am not.  I do community service there for school, and go there on my own time sometimes, but this is not even a part time thing.
[18:10] <BCM43> plus I would have to lean more about it as I don't know enough yet.
[18:10] <Lns> BCM43: so how many systems are you going to install it on?
[18:12] <BCM43> Lns: I have it on 5, we are getting 10 more of the same donated, and there are 5 on which I would like to install it but there is a bug in the bios and since the bios is locked down, only the Department of Education can update it, so I have to go through a lot to get that done.
[18:12] <Lns> yikes
[18:13] <Lns> that's pretty hardcore =)
[18:14] <BCM43> Lns: dont get me started on the Department of Education in nyc. Windows only. Viruses going all over the place, and the school I am working at can no longer pay for a tech support person.
[18:15] <BCM43> You know you need more money when a 16 year old is doing all your tech support as community service.
[18:15] <Lns> BCM43: it's all too common, unfortunately. You would be doing the DoE a service by installing Linux on any of these systems and persuading them to learn how to use it
[18:16] <Lns> With LTSP, administration is easier than Windows domain / roaming profile/etc stuff could ever be
[18:16] <Lns> I'm sure you already know that though ;)
[18:16] <BCM43> Yes
[18:18] <BCM43> The only problem I am having is that there is some special management software that the special education teachers use that I need to find a way to get working on linux. I don't have time to teach them or set up a free version, and I'm not sure the computers can run a vm. I have to try out wine.
[18:19] <Lns> what's the software?
[18:19] <BCM43> iep pro
[18:20] <Lns> hmm, looks web based - have you tried it in linux/firefox?
[18:21] <BCM43> Lns: there is a special client that you need.
[18:21] <Lns> ah
[18:22] <Lns> Well, any moderately equipped server could handle a VM... I use VMWare myself, but there's also Virtualbox and KVM that apparently work very well too
[18:22] <Lns> very little overhead to run a virtual server these days
[18:23] <BCM43> ok. I would need to read up a bit on how to set it up first, but I will look into it.
[18:24] <BCM43> Lns: I would love to switch them to this, but I have no idea if it is possible. I have tired both, and this is superior. http://iep-ipp.sourceforge.net/
[18:26] <Lns> wow
[18:26] <Lns> I've never heard of this software
[18:26] <BCM43> this too need a server, and I have to keep in mind that the server room is the old projection room for the auditorium, with no windows and just a fan.
[18:26] <BCM43> Lns: yea, they have a web demo and it seems really good.
[18:26] <Lns> This is something that we might want to include in edubuntu
[18:27] <Lns> if possible
[18:27] <Lns> highvoltage, stgraber : ^^^
[18:27] <BCM43> good idea. Development seems to have stagnated.
[18:27] <BCM43> http://iep-ipp.marketplace.ca/src/launch.php
[18:28] <Lns> maybe it "just works" =)
[18:29] <BCM43> Lns: from the demo, it seems that way. I need to set up a server to test it with.
[18:29] <BCM43> I also need more time. :)
[18:31] <Lns> i hear ya
[18:31] <Lns> I shouldn't even be here right now =p
[18:32] <Lns> my first day trying to allocate time during the work day so i get more stuff done, and i'm behind schedule ;)
[18:32] <BCM43> Lns: are you in this channel often? If not, could I have an email to keep you updated or ask questions?
[18:32] <BCM43> Lns: well, don't let me take up your time.
[18:32] <Lns> I'm here a lot, yeah - I'm in California
[18:32] <Lns> No no, it's ok, I'm doing other stuff =)
[18:33] <BCM43> Lns: ok, I will be back every so often with updates and questions.
[18:33] <Lns> You can always ask questions here - if you want my e-mail though, its jerickson -at- logicalnetworking -dot- net
[18:33] <Lns> I'm sure others would be able to answer some questions better than I could here though, so always check here first
[18:33] <BCM43> ok
[18:33] <BCM43> thank
[18:33] <Lns> yw, good luck!
[20:48] <alkisg> Has anyone got sabayon to work from sbalneav's PPA?
[21:03] <dgroos> alkisg: I'm getting close to starting to test it.
[21:04] <alkisg> For me, when I press the [Edit] button to edit a profile, it just hangs there...
[21:04] <alkisg> I tried changing my UI to en_US to test if that was to blame, but nothing changed